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No. 59— Thursday, August 12, 1971($ravana 21,1893 (Saha)
C olumns Oral Answers to Questions— ♦Starred Questions Nos. 1712 to 1719. 1—27 Written Answers to Questions— Starred Questions Nos. 1711 and 1720 to 1740. 27—44 UnStarred Questions Nos. 7775 to 7969. 44—'190 Re Question of Privilege 190—91 Matters under Rule 377 191—202 Papers Laid on the Table 202—08 Conviction of Members 208—09 Committee on Petitions— Minutes 209 Assent to Rills 209—10 Message from Rajya Sabha 210 Estimates Committee— Fifth Report and Minutes 210 Public Accounts Committee— Second and Twenty-eighth Reports* 211 Committee on Government Asmrances— First Report 211 Correction of Answer to S. Q. No. 881 dated 2.7.71 Re. Report of Enquiry Commission on N.F.C. Organisation .. 211—12
Taxation Laws (Amendment) Bill—Introduced 212 Central Sales Tax (Amendment) Bill— Motion to refer to Select Committee 213—15 Prevention of Water Pollution Bill— Motion to concur 215—18
♦The rign+ marked above tbe name of a Member indicates that the question wai actually a*ked on the floor of the House by that Member, C olumns Prevention of Insults to National Honour Bill— Motion to consider 218—34 Shri R. S. Pandey 218—22 Shri M. Satyanarayan Rao 223 Dr. Kami Singh 223—25 Shri S. M. Banerjee 225—27 Shri Rajdeo Singh 227—29 Shri Mohsin 229—32 Clauses 2, 3 and 1 232—34 Motion to Pass 233 Shri Mohsin 233 Shri Ramavatar Shastri 233—34 Prevention of Food Adulteration (Amendment) Bill— Motion to consider 234—48 Shri D. P. Ghattopadhyaya 234—35 Shri Gadadhar Saha 236—37 Shri A. N. Vidyalankar 238—39 Shri Ishaq Sambhali 240—43 Dr. Kailas 243—44 Shri G. Viswanathan 245 Shri M. Satyanarayan Rao 245—46 Clauses 2 to 4 and 1 247—48 Motion to pass 248 Shri D. P. Chattopadhyaya 248 Coal Bearing Areas (Acquisition and Development) Amendment and Validation Bill— Motion to consider 248—57 Shri Shahnawaz Khan 248—50 Shri K. M. Madhukar 250—54 Shri G. Viswanathan 254 Clauses 2 to 8 and 1 254—57 Motion to pass 257 Shri Shahnawaz Khan 257 (iii)
C olumns Discussion Re. Flood and Drought situation in the country 257—335, 336—67 Shri Paripoornanand Painuli 257—64 Shri Krishna Haider 264—68 Dr. Henry Austin 269—71 Shri Ramavatar Shastri 272—76 Shri Shankarrao Savant 276—78 Shri Ranabahadur Singh 278—79 Shri D. N. Tiwary 279—84 Shri M. Rajangam 284—86 Shri Anantrao Patil 288—91 Shri N. N. Pandey 291—94 Shri K. Ramakrishna Reddy 294—95 Shri Chintamani Panigrahi 295—97 Shri P. K. Deo 298—300 Shri Bibhuti Mishra 300—01 Shri P. Venkatasubbaiah 301—04 Shri Shyamnandan Mishra 305—09 Shri Liladhar Kotoki 309—11 Shri Ram Deo Singh 311—14 Shri Vikram Ghand Mahajan 314—16 Shri Hukam Ghand Kacnwai 316—19 Shri N. Shivappa 320—22 Shri Shivnath Singh 322—25 Shri S. S. Mohapatra 325—27 Shri Ganga Reddy 327—29 Shri T. D. Ramble 329-32 Shri JamiJurrahman 332—35, 336—37 Shri K. Basappa 338 Shri Shashi Bhushan 338—39 Shri K. Suryanarayana 339—40 (iv)
C olumns Shr iraati Sahodrabai Rai . 340—41 Shri Dinesh Joarder . 341 Shri Rudra Pratap Singh . 341—42 Shri Ram Bhagat Paswan . 342—43 Shri M. C. Oaga . 343-44 Shri N. K. Sharma . 344 Dr. Govind Das Richhariya . 344—45 Shri Subodh Hansda . 345—46 Shri Chandrika Prasad . 346—47 Shri K. M. Madhukar . 347 Shri B. N* Reddy . 347—48 Shri B. N. Bhargava . 350 Shri Jagannath Mishra . 350—51 Shri Ramji Ram . 351 Shri Dharamrao Afzalpurkar . 351—52 Shri Yamuna Prasad Mandal . 352—53 Shri M. Satyanarayan Rao . 353—54 Shri Eswara Reddy . 354 Prof. S. L. Saksena . 354 Shri Chiranjib Jha . 354—55 Shri Shankar Dayal Singh . 355—56 Shri Nageshwar Dwivedi . 356 Dr. K. L. Rao . 356—62 Shri F. A. Ahmed . 363—65 Statement Re. Reported Appearance of Attorney-General on behalf of Mysore in the Cauvery Waters Dispute . 335—36 Shri H. R. Gokhale . 335 Statement Re. Reported Trial of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman by the Military Regime of Pakistan . 367—72 Shrimati Indira Gandhi . 368—72 LOK SABHA DEBATES
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LOK SABHA due to exposure of milk for unduly long time to high temperatures. Action has been taken to Thursday, August 12, 1971(Sravana 21,1893 (SAKA) regulate the temperature conditions of milk while in storage in Delhi Milk Scheme so that The Lok Sabha met at Eleven of the Clock. the quality is maintained. [Mr. Speaker in the Chair] (2) Presence of foreign matter : Forei ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS gn matter mostly consists of insects. A sanitary squad has been constituted in Delhi Milk Working Results of Delhi Milk Scheme Scheme h i improving sanitary conditions.
*1712. SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN: (J) Quality of Milk : The standards pres Will the Ministei of AGRICULTURE be cribed for different grades of milk and various pleased to state : milk products sold by Delhi Milk Scheme are being rigidly enloired by Quality Control La (a) whether there are complaints about the boratory. As regaids complaints of adultera Delhi Milk Schcme for the poor quality of its tion, whenever depot staff are found responsi products and also for the losses it incurred ble, prompt and suitable action is taken against during the past; and them. Surprise checks over the milk booths have also been intensified to guard against possibi (b) if so, the steps Government intend to lity of adulteration. take to rectify this ? (4) Rancid flavour In Ghee and Discolo THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE uring : Long storage of ghrv often results in MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI off- flavours. In such cases, the tins along with SHER SINGH) : (a) and (b). A Statement is the contents are replaced by Delhi Milk Sche laid on the Table of the Sabha. me on receipt of complaints. Attempts are also being made by Delhi Milk Scheme to len Statement gthen the shelf-life of ghee. (a) Yes, Sir. During the years 1970-71 and 1971-72 (up to July, 1971) U2 and 52 (r>) Losses suffered by D. M. S. : The complaints respectively were received in Delhi main reason fot the losses during the earlier Milk Scheme alleging curdling, presence of years was that there was time lag in revising foreign matter in the milk and poor quality of the selling price of milk consequent on increase the milk, and rancid flavour and discolouring in cost of production. Steps taken/proposed to in Ghee. Losses suffered by the Delhi Milk be taken for avoiding/minimising losses are Scheme from its inception in 1959 until indicated below :— 1968*69 amounting to Rs. 417.68 lakhs were also commented upon adversely by the Audit, (i) Selling pricc of milk is being reviewed the Public Accounts Committee and in the from time to time with a view to ensuring a Parliament. However, during 1969-70, the proper correlation between the cost of Delhi Milk Scheme made a profit of Rs. 73.34 production and the sale price. lakhs. The accounts for the year 1970-71 are (ii) Efforts have been made/arc being yet to be prepared and audited. made to keep down the expenditure on handling, processing and distribution char (b) The following steps arc being taken by ges as well as on administrative establish Delhi Milk Scheme to avoid various type* of ment to the minimum. For this purpose complaints:— norms with regard to handling losses of fat (1) Curdling : Cutdling was found to be have been laid down from the stage of the 3 Oral Answer': AUGUST 12, 1971 Oral Answers 4
receipt of the milk at the Milk Collection foreign matter in the milk bottles. When we and Chilling Centres upto its receipt at the take milk we should be very much careful Central Dairy. Norm in rcspcct of handling whether we will die when such insects are loss during processing has also been pres coming in in the milk bottles. They say that cribed. Road milk tankers have been cali they are going to examine it. In spite of it brated to ensure accurate measurement of why should such things be happening ? In the the quantity of milk delivered at the Central Patriot there was a report 2 days back. Milk Dairy. Norms have also been laid down for bottles were produced before the newsmen. controlling the breakage of bottles. Why should such things be happening ? And also, about the quarter litte bottle, why should SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN : Sir, it is it he for double toned milk only ? Previously a very lengthy statement and it is very cleverly- you used to supply all types of milk in quarter worded. The Delhi Milk Scheme is a concern litre bottles. Why cannot all types of milk be run most inefficiently and to the detriment of supplied in quarter litre bottles This is so the people... mething I cannot understand. I would like to know what is the policy regarding that. Qjiai- MR. SPEAKER : You have started adding tei litre bottle will be helpful to (he common introductions also. poor man.
SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN : I am just coming to the question. It is a very lengthy SHRI SHER SINGH: As regards the statement. He has admitted there that there present e of foreign rnattei and insect, I have was a big loss and to avoid the loss, the already stated in the main reply that a sanitary Government propose to increase the prices of squad has been constituted and we are not just milk. I would like to know whether the profit examining only, but we have actually consti shown in 1909-70 as Rs. 73.34 lakhs is due to tuted a squad and they are working. As for the increase in price. quarter litre bottle, as I said, we have introdu ced it for double-toned milk because that is Secondly, why has the DMS slopped the supplied to the poorer people. For riehei people, they can afTord to buy half a litre of supply of quarter litre bottles which were much milk and they buy more than half a litre, used by common people because they used to one litre or two litres. They never buy quar get the milk in quarter-litre bottle which was ter litre. For the poorer persons who need this very much preferred by the single man, the quarter litre bottles, we are doing that. poor man ? Why was it stopped ?
SHRI SHER SINGH : As far as the losses w * grPHT are concerned, I have explained it in the body of the statement itself. w rr i*PTr*re?rfttfa?g?rvft ir if* fefr ^t»r The profits that we earned in the year ftnpsf srr*rR # 1969-70 were because of several factors. One of them is, of course, rise in price of milk as aft* fa ? * ^ also reducing the expenditure on handling, snrr srnrr ft | ? processing and distribution etc. as also in the establishment and administrative expenditure. All these factors are there. *rf ?Tft t f a t c 3ft fo rr As far as the quarter litre bottle is 90ncerned, we are introducing that for double-toned milk srRfr | * f 3nr i m f f t * t arrar % eft now because the double-toned milk is supplied WT stfsr aft tftsr ftwnr fflfw to the poorer classes of our society and we are z f z re-introducing it for double-toned milk. ^t srorcrs w ^ t ^rr srRrr | ? apTcrr Jr ^ar flrrcT ¥ t ^ ftrmsr SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN : There h | eft * fatT w m x *wr another complaint about the Pelhi Milk Scheme regarding the finding of insects and W 3TT Tft I ? 5 Oral Answers SRAVANA 21, 1893 {SAKA) Oral Ansuers 6
Src ^ fsrc rm aervft or something like that. So, the price* that we charge in Delhi are less than those in other *£i 3 rr| 11 ^ft f e w # ' cities. m i j»r mt ^t£t-m£t srnft f s w ferw As regards the hon. Member’s second ques *w m x t*rr I fit Ttsr *rr$ Thr tion, I would like to submit that we are think qw ^ st irrcft I aft’c ^ ing of increasing the capacity, and we are put mr^r fa^7*Ff srt f«r* *n T rre* * 1 7 13. sft finjfa fas* : sfqr jpft ^ *t *rt *f* * t *n^rr * - *lp *FTFr aft frcjr ^rr?r far : ifrtt ^rarar i r ^ r irateT % *re¥ f ^ r i (v) *TT 1971 % for §TT *ft $K fa * : ^ fcHTOT STRTRfr % ign if T*ft f t £ ; fT^t t I (*t) nfe 7.f, m m i faq-R 3rrrf, sft 3?ra?* w n : w r t,i w r f a f t 1971 % srrsrFT-'wrw -jjrr% % star *T H& ^ *rai*rar sfr % ?*rrfwr factori into account. The problem is really SHRI P. R. SHENOY ; Do Government complicated, but by and large, now a very consult farmers or farmers’ associations while sound policy ia formulated and we are trying fixing the procurement prices ? to give procurement prices which are reason* ably remunerative. SHRI ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE : There is an advisory committee including some MPs. : apaTSRt, W r apf and some farmers. That is consulated. *Pt3fo:5*r ^ rr cfr SHRI R. V. SWAMINATHAN : Arising stft *ffrfr % snr «r? fc aft out of the answer against part (c), will fa faETH % sn rr wm t 1 1 ^ Government consider the desirability of giving of some incentives to the farmers by way of fattt ?PTFTT ^'T *T ^ f«r increasing the procurement prices or reducing Tf^fr m * r ^ r ^ the price of agricultural implements and fertilizers to reduce the cost of cultivation 3Rro*t fsrg% fa faqrR ^ T*T^foHt taking the overall conditions in the country s*fr % stt* fa # aft fa s?fr*r into account ? ®Ft *rr f a s t ^ sr^rT % SHRI ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE : The f m r c % q-^r ^ r ? t ^ 1% srr f*H?t | ? greatest incentive can be given to the farmers in two ways. One, by way of pace, the way SHRI ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE: I we are offering the price for the wheat and repeat my assurance to the Indian farmers that other commodities; becausc of that, the wc shall purchase all the grain offered by them farmer’s interest is being looked after. Second, in the market, wherever it is, at the procure fertilisers are also available at prices which arc ment price. fixed by the Government from time to time. «ft arrco aftc «rff : ars^T ^fr, #sr MR. SPEAKER: Two questions have aft* anq? i t % f a spfa ?>ft i $*rr (a) whether any firm steps have been taken ^ t i fc *n r *rc ^ r* by the Government to give effect to the West fa ^ rrr ?pt | ? Bengal Land Refoims (Second Amendment) Act, 1970; and SHRI ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE : Shri (b) if so, what ? Bade is an old friend of mine, but he is a little out of date. Nowadays as a result of the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE cultivation of high*yiclding varieties the acreagc MINIS rRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI under foodgrains is growing and not vice versa. ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) ; (a) There is no Act under the name West Bengal Land SHRI H. M. PATEL : Is the Minister Reforms (Second Amendment) Act, 1970. aware that the Tood Corporation swings into Reference seems to be to West Bengal Land action some what late so that the farmers have Reforms (Second Amendment) Bill, 1970 to sell their crop below procurement price ? which was enacted as the West Bengal Land Could not the Corporation go into action Reforms (Amendment) Act, 1971 (President’s when prices tend to go nearer the procurement Act 3 of 1971). All the provisions of that Act prices ? excluding those relating to ceiling were brought SHRI ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE: We into force throughout the State on 12th do consider this factor. February, 1971 and those relating to ceiling on II Oral Answers AUGUST 12, 197! Orat Answers 12 15th February, 1971. Statutory rules under Act, certain lands have already been vested in the enactment have also been framed and the Government of West Bengal and they will be published. distributed to the needy peasants through the Block Development Officers or the JLROs, (b) For the purpose of implementing the May I know whether anything has been done various provisions of the legislation, Su^Divi in this regard, this distribution of land, that sional Land Reform Officers have been has been vested with the Government of West appointed as Revenue Officers. For determin Bengal, to the peasantry ? ing the ceiling areas for irrigated and unirriga ted lands, Notification specifying it ligated area SHRI ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE : The has been issued. Returns have to be furnished distribution processes are on, but I will have to by raiyats owning land in excess of criling ascertain from the State Government the area by l rith October, 1971. Instructions have actual, present position. been issued to local officers for securing speedy and effective, implementation of the provisions MR. SPEAKER : These arc all specific of the Amendment Act. questions which you could have added to the main question. SIIRI SAROJ MUKHKRJEE : The number of the amendment was a mistake, but DR. RANEN SEN: It was definitely there was an amendment. Now, may 1 know stated by the Government of West Bengal that ,-om the hon. Minister how much surplus land certain lands . . . has been recovered after this new ceiling amendment was enacted during this period of MR. SPEAKER : I am oncerned witfi the one and a half years, that is, after the fall of main question. the United Front Government ? DR. RANEN SEN : He should have come SHRI ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE : The prepared for answering the question as to how law has been recently enacted, and as I said much land has been lying with the Government in the main part of my reply, the time-limit and how much lias been distributed This is fixed for declaring the surplus land and a corollary to the main question. submitting statements is up to October. There after, it will be possible to make an assessment SHRI ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE : With as to what is the total acreage that will be due respect to the hon. Member, I am prepared available as surplus land for distribution. to answer any question. Particularly we take the land reforms in West Bengal seriously. But SHRI SAROJ MUKHKRJEE: The this is an altogether different question. So, other day, the hon. Minister of Agriculture making an allegation that I am not answering announced on the floor of this House that the is not proper. Government has accepted the land ceiling recommendation of the Agricultural Reforms SIIRI SUBOD1I HANSDA : Arising out Commission, for the whole of the country, of the Minister’s reply that the statement varying from 10 to 18 acres on a family basis. regarding surplus lands has to be submitted to May I know from which date this new the Government by the end of October, I recommendation or decision is going to be would like to know whether the statement has implemented ? to be given by all the tenants or whether there is any classification thereof. SHRI ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE: I do not know whether it arises out of this question. SHRI ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE: The MR. SPEAKER : The main question is reference to October was in respect of the regarding the West Bengal Land Reforms land owners who have surplus land above the (Amendment) Act. You can ask about the ceiling. A particular time limit has been fixed amendment of the Act. and they to submit their return to the revenue authorities declaring how much, if any, surplus DR. RANEN SEN: Sometime back, it land they have got. Otherwise., the State will was announced by the Government of West itself take the initiative and declare those lands Bengal that according to this Land Reforms surplus and take them over. 13 Oral A/uwers SRAVANA 21, 1893 (SAM) Oral Answers 14 SHRI SAMAR GUHA: Although the the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased Minister has made a statement that the to &tate : landowners will have to submit a return about surplus land by a particular date, the notifica (a) whether majority of the milk processing tion relating to it has not been fully circulated plants m the country are working at half of in the rural areas. As the now Act is yet to be their rated capacity; and implemented and the old Act still remains, (b) if i>o, the reasons thereof i may I know whether it is a fact that lots of disputes are going on in this cultivation season, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE many sharecroppers have been dispossessed of MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI the land, and many small cultivators have been SHER SINGH) : (a) and (b). The material illegally evicted and tbeii lands forcibly is being collected and will be placed on the occupied, and if so, what steps have the Table of the Sabha when received. Government taken to mitigate this problem ? SHRI ROBIN KAKOTI: May I know SHRI ANNASAHEB P. SHINDL : Re whether it is a fact that most of the tuilk-pro- ports have been received that some of the ressing plants are being run with imported tenants are being cvicted as a result of the milk powder and butter otl ? What is the coming into force of this new amendment, annual requirement of milk powder to keep and therefoie, we have di awn the attention of the existing milk processing plants running i* the West Bengal Governmenl to this and told them that all necessary steps should !>c taken to SHRI SHER SINGH : When liquid milk give adequate protection to the tenants. I is not available in sufficiently large quantities, would repeat that if the present law is found then we do use sometime), skimmed milk to be inadequate, we will not hesitate to powder, but not always. Also, there is a certain amend the law to give full protection to the percentage beyond which we do not go. tenants. SHRI ROBIN K A K O ri: What is the SHRI DINEN BHAITAGHARYYA: Is number of milk processing plants in India ? he aware of the fact that before this new Is it a fact that annually about Rs. 1 crore amendment came into force, during the are spent for importing accessories ? If so, United Front regime in West Bengal, about what steps are the Government taking to 12 lakh acres of land were vested in the manufacture them in our country ? Government, but that those landowners went to the High Court and got an injunction as a SHRI SHER SINGH: There are 108 result of which large number of peasants are dairy plants in the country. We have started, still facing eviction, and if so, will he give manufacturing the necessary machinery. We retrospective effect to the law from the time are importing only a few highly specialised the United Front came to power ? items. Otherwise, we have started manufac turing them in oui country. SHRI ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE : In a sub judice matter naturally there are several SHRI BUTA SINGH : I do not agree with legal implications, and 1 cannot say anything the minister when he says that information is in regard to cases pending in the High Court. not available. Information about milk plants But based on our experience, under the new in the ptivate sector may not be available, but law the jurisdiction of the civil courts has been what about the public sector plants. taken away in regard to conducting these MR. SPEAKER: What is your question ? cases. We have enacted for the first time such SHRI BUTA SINGH; May I know a drastic law for ceiling as well as protecting whether Government is prepared to expand tenants, which no previous Government—either the rated capacity of the existing plants in the the UF Government or any other Government public sector and also instal new plants in the has done. public sector ? Capacity of Milk Processing Plants in the SHRI SHER SINGH ; We have to collect Country the information from the various States regard *1715. SHRI ROBIN KAKOTI: Will ing the working of these milk plants, whether 15 Oral Answer* AUGUST 12,1971 Oral Answers 16 a majority of them are not working to their the reasons for not implementating the award full capacity, ctc. About putting up more to the entire satisfaction of the workers. plants, we are putting up more plant) in the fourth plan in the public sector. THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND REHABILITATION (SHRI R. K. KHADIL- Implementation of Recommendations of KAR) : We have no information regarding Electricity Wage Board in Uttar Pradesh the strike, or the threatened strike. So far as the implementation of the wage board award *1716. SIIRI S. M. BANERJEE : Will the is concerned, excepting in relation to gratuity Minister of LABOUR AND REHABILITA and some minor matters where some modifica* TION be pleased to state : cations are necessary, the other recommenda tions have been implemented. So, it is not (a) whether Uttar Pradesh Government correct to say that they have not implemented has amended recommendations of the Electri the award. If a specific question is asked in city Wage Board ; regard to which part of the award is not imple mented, I am ready to reply about it. More (b) if so, whether they took consent of the over, I would like to emphasize here that the Union Government; UP Government had a tripartite consultation before taking this decision. (c) whether majority of the workers in Uttar Pradesh in State Undertaking have been SHRI S. M. BANERJEE: Is the hon. deprived of certain benefits ; and Minister aware that a committee was appoin ted, in which the employees were represented, (d) if so, steps taken by Government to and that committee has submitted its report undo this injustice ? recently, in May ? On the question of fitment from one scale to another there is difference THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE of opinion with the result. . . . MINISTRY OF LABOUR AND REHABILI TATION (SHRI BALGOVIND VERMA) : MR. SPEAKER : Kindly ask the question (a) Yes, Sir. The recommendations, in their straight without such a long introduction. application to the Slate of Uttar Pradesh, have been amended in the matter of gratuity, pay SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : Sir, how can I ment of arrears etc. put the question straight ? I can put it only (b) No, Sir. through you. (c) and (d). According to the State Govern MR. SPEAKER t Just tell me. I can put ment, except for gratuity Schemc recommended it briefly on your behalf. by Wage Board all other benefits have substan tially been made available to the workmen SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : May I know under the Uttar Pradesh State Electricity whether the strike is mainly due to the fact Board. The State Government have added that the fitment into the various pay scales has that if any case of alleged injustice is brought not been done, as promised by the UP Electri to their notice it will be looked into. city Board, and if so whether the hon. Minister is likely to intervene in the matter and suggest SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : I am surprised some measures to avoid a general strike in that the Minister does not know that even UP? today there is a strike going on by the Kanpur electricity workers numbering about 2,000 and SHRI R. K. KHADILKAR J As the hon. there is a threatened strike by all the electricity Member has admitted, there was some discuss workers of UP because of the decision of the ion with the representatives of the Union. I UP Government not to implement certain have no information as to what transpired recommendations of the Wage Board and there. So far as fitment is concerned, while abnormal delay in the implementation of some implementing the award it is done according recommendations. I would like to know to some formula. If the hon. Member has whether the Central Government have really some information, he may supply it to that we contacted the State Government and asked for can pass it on to the Government concerned. 17 Oral Answers SRAVANA 21, 1893 (SAKA) Oral Answers 18 SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : I am giving is applicable to electricity situated units in all that information. the different States. If any State Government chooses on its own to modify or alter that MR. SPEAKER : I am glad he has admit- Central rrcommendation and do a* it pleases, ted that he h giving information and not what is the responsibility of the Central asking for information. Government in the matter of seeing that the uniform implementation of the Central wage SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : I have to give board’s recommendations in all the States is the informntion while putting the question. ensured ; or, has it no responsibility ? A serious situation has developed there. Shri Khadilkar is well known for his patience and SHRI R. K. KHADILKAR : This award persuasion. That is why I am requesting him was a non-statutory award and the hon. Mem to intervene in the matter. ber knows that the Centre can only advise or persuade the States. SHRI R. K. KHADILKAR s I will try to SIIRI S. M. BANERJEE : They never con get some more information, if there is a dis sulted the Centre. pute. Beyond that I cannot say anything. At this stage I cannot promise intervention. SHRI R. K. KHADILKAR : After going through their process of implementation they SHRI R. N. SHARMA : The hon. Minis have stated that they havr similar benefits ter has admitted that excluding gratuity and already existing. So, even if they do not ac wages the award has been implemented. If cept a part of thr award about gratuity, wor the rrcommendation relating to gratuity and kers arc not put to a loss. If a case is made wages have not been implemented, what are out that there is a widt gulf, we will examine the other portions which have been implemen it. ... (Intenupttons) ted and how has the award been amended by the State Government i SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : Did they take your approval for that ? SHRI R. K. KHADILKAR: It is not corrcct. I said that excluding gratuity all the SHRI R. K. KHADILKAR : Thr question other portions are implemented. The only of approval did not arise. question is about arrears, which are to be SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : They did not paid in a phased manner without any amend even consult you. ment of the wage board award. *ft gv* w * wqpm : fsrsnfr vtt ^ : wr ^ ^ snft srrsrf *r t i fsnT% ^ | fr sr^r % jptf % | snflr % f^nr *r swk % rPTm ^rraff ^ f^i far *FT*H ift, ^ *T Sfrrf vft ^ f=rrcT «rr, sft I. arrr *rr ^ t ? *TRT STPFTT jfT $ft 3n% ? t sypFrr ^rr^rr f? fr w wrtl SHRI R. K. KHADILKAR : Except for journalists all wage boards were non*statutory. ^ | arte crcs ^ After the wage board recommendations are placed, it is left to the State, because it is a afk *515* * $ j m m Tpm *nft concurrent subject; to implement them. Be yond this the Centre cannot compel them to $ tary of Hindustan Steel Employees Union and Act after he was released on bail and the only member of All India Steel Wage Negotiation charge for detention as given in the charge Committer on the 26th June on false charges ; sheet was the same as in the earlier case ; if that is so, will Government consider releasing (b) if so, the reasons thrrefor ; and him from detention ? (r) the steps taken by Government to remedy the situation arising out of the arrest ? SHRI MOHAN KUMARAMANGALAM : Shri Jiban Roy was arrested on, I think, 12th THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES or 13th July under the Prevention of Violent (SHRI MOIIAN KUMARAMANGALAM) : Activities Act. The grounds of detention have (a) and (b). Shri J. Roy, Member of the AH been served upon him and now the usual India Steel Wage Negotiating Committee and procedure under that Act will be followed. Joint Secretary, Hindustan Sreel Employee Whatever representation he may make will be Union, Durgapur, was arrested on the 26th placed before the Advisory Board and the June 1971 in two specific cases. He was arres Advisory Board will advise the Government an> ted in Durgapur P. S. Case No. 9 dated 6.'3.71 to what should be done in the matter. under sections 326/307 of the IPC and sections 25/27 of the Indian Arms Act in case No. fif* SHRI DINEN BHATTACHARYYA : This dated 19.6.71 under sections 364/302 IPC. gentleman, Jeevan Roy was arrested on a (<.) This falls within the purview of ihe local specific charge. Subsequently he was released Administration. on bail SHRI B. K. MODAK : The reply to the MR. SPEAKER : The Minister says thf question is avoided by the hon. Minister. The matter is before the court. question was whether lie was implicated in a false case. In this connection I may read out SHU.I DINEN BHATTACHARYYA : Can the remarks of the magistrate on July 12. The magistrate had said :— you punish a man doubly. If you punish me for one ofFence and subsequently when found “I may well say that the 1.0. had to not guilty how can you charge me on the same ground ? For one Offence you are arresting the procure a witness to give support to his same man twice. What is it. The Home Minis contention in the memo, of evidence. There ter should reply. ( Interruption) is no statement of the injured himself as yet recorded by I. O. I really wonder why this MR. SPEAKER : By just shouting you do accused has been brought under arrest in not make your question very strong. this case. The accused may find bail of Rs. 100". SHRI MOHAN KUMARAMANGALAM : So, may I ask the Minister whether hr was May I add a word of advice to the hon. Mem actually implicated in a false case or not ? ber that additional noise does not mean addi What is his opinion ? tional light.... (Interruption) SHRI MOHAN KUMARAMANGALAM : SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA : So far as the case is concerned, it is still pend Sir, you are there to prevent a Member from ing in the court and I do not think it will be making noise but not the Minister.. . . {Inter proper for me to express any opinion on it. ruption) So far as the answer to this question is con SHRI MOHAN KUMARAMANGALAM: cerned, the question was whether he had So far as the charges are concerned the charges been arrested on the 26th June on false on which Shri Jeevan Roy was arrested on charges and I have given the reply in relation the 26th June are still pending in the court to that arrest. Though the Magistrate has directed his release on bail so far as I am aware the case is stil SHRI B. K. MODAK : Will the Minister pending and, therefore, he is an undertrial so fa be pleased to state whether the Secretary, Shri as that part is concerned. In relation to hi Jtban Ray, has been arrested under the PVA arrest under the Prevention of Violent Activity 21 Oral Answtrs SRAVANA 21, 1893 (£4/i;,,4) Oral Answtrs 22 Act th e grounds on which he has been arrested May I kaow whether the Governrwnt is aware have been communicatcd to him in accordance of the fact th it they could not start function with the procedure under that Act and he is ing and, if so, what does the Government pro entitled to make a representation to the Ad pose to do about it ? v iso ry Board. Those grounds also cover some other matters which have been communicated SHRI J\GANNATH PAI1\DIA : As you to him so far as the charges are concerned. know, these air the schemes under the State In any event if those grounds are found to fall Plans. But whenever we receive any scheme, outside the purview of the Prevention of Violent certainly, we consider such help as could be Activities Act, no d o u h t, the Advisory Board extended to the State Governments. will come to its conclusion under Section 12 and the advice of the Advisory Board if it is in DR. RANEN SEN : The hon. Minister favour of the release of the individual is bind just now said no to this question. May I know ing upon the Government, whether he is aware of the fact that in the Report on the Cooperative Movement it is Failure of Cooperative Movement in West definitely stated that in West Bengal, the co Bengal operative movement is at a very low ebb and, if that is so, may I know whether the Govern *1718. SHRI SUBODH HANSDA: Will ment has taken any steps in order to sec that the M inister of AGR1CUL TU RE b e pleased the cooperative movement in West Bengal thrives and flourishes i to s ta te : (a) whether there is a complete failure in SHRI J \GANN \1 H PAHADIA: Yes, the cooperative movement in West Bengal Sir Some steps have been taken from time to other than the credit cooperati\ rs ; time. Under the Central Sector scheme for (b) if so, the reasons for this failure ; and assisting cooperative processing units a liberal pattern of assistance foi West Bengal and other (c) how Government propose to revitalise Lastern States is proposed to be given namely, the movement ? moratorium in payment of loans may be given npto 5 years depending on the merits of each THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN HIE case ; the pei iod of repayment of loans may be MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI extended upto 20 yeais depending on the JAGANNATH PAH ADI A) : (a) No, Sit. merits of each case as compared to liyeais (b) and (c). Do not arise, at piesent , the dcbt-equity ratio is ptoposcd to be liberalised to 80 : 20 for all processing SHRI SUBODH HANSDA: I lie hon. units running within the purview of the Ccn- Minister’s reply to my Question is no. I would tial sector scheme, the State Governments arc* like to draw his attention to some of the con proposed to be peimittcd to liberalise their sumer cooperatives societies in West Bengal share capital participation tation to 5 : 1 as which aie running at a loss and one of them against the present ratio of 3 . 1 applicable to is the Howrah Sainavayika consuiwrr c ooper.i> backward ateas. Apartfiom this, the rate of tive society. Does lie know that these arc run interest under the Central sector scheme is ning at a loss and some of them have gone proposed to l>e reduced by 1/2 per cent as against the normal rate of interest which is 7 into liquidation ? Has he any information per cent. Then, apart from that. about it ? MR. SPEAKER : You are giving the in MR. SPEAKER : You have started read formation yourself. ing the whole statement. SHRI JAGANNATH PAHADIA : There SHRI* JAG ANNA HI PAHADIA: These are some of the steps that we have taken. are some stores running at a loss and there are * *ome stores running at a profit also. MR. SPEAKER : Why don’t you lay it on the Table i SHRI SUBODH HANSDA : There are certain cooperative ricc mills set up in the last SHRI D. N. MAH \TA : May I know few years which could not start functioning. whether the Government is awaie of the fact 23 Oral Answers AUGUST 12, 1971 Oral Answers 24 tha t there are certain rice mills which though Statement jet up in 1967 are not functioning as yet ? List of names of sugar factories in Tamil MR. SPEAKER : It is not a question of Nadu holding expansion licences/letters of being aware of every fact. It is a question of intent and have yet to complete their schemes. answering it. S. No. Name and address o f the sugar factory SHRI JAGANNATH PAHADIA : In such 1. Cauvery Sugars & Chemicals Ltd. cases, several agencies including the Food Pettaivaytalai, District Tiruchirapalli. Corporation arr giving assistance. 2. The South India Steel & Sugars Ltd., MR. SPEAKER : Next Question. Mundiyampakkam, Villupuram, Taluk, District South Arcot. SHRI D. N. MAHATA : Will the Govern 3. Aruna Sugars Ltd. Pennadam, ment be pleased to state how many cooperative District South Arcot, societies are running at a loss ? 4. Kallakurich i Cooperative Sugar Mill Ltd., SHRI JAGANNATH PAHADIA : There P. O. Moongilthuripattu, Taluk Kallaku* are various types of societies. I require notice richi, District South Arcot. for it. 5. The Thiru Arooran Sugars Ltd., Vada- pathimangalam, Distrirt Tanjore. MR. SPEAKER : I have already gone to the next question. 6. Amaravathi Coopeidtive Sugar Mills Ltd., A. K. Puthur, Viz. Kaniyar, District Coimbatore. Expansion Programme of Sugar Mills in 7. The Sakthi Sugars Ltd., Appakudal, Tam il Nadu District Coimbalorr. 8. North Arcot District Cooperative Sugar ♦1719. SHRI LAKSHMINARAYANAN : Mills Ltd., Vadopudupet, Ambur, District Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be North Arcot. pleased to state : 9. The Madurantakam Cooperative Sugar Mills Ltd., Padalam, District Chingleput. (a) the names of the sugar factories of Tamil Nadu which arc contemplating to have some 10. The Salem Cooperative Sugar Mills Ltd., expansion programme, and of those which Mohanur, Via Karur (Nammakal Taluk), have already expanded ; and District Salem. B. List of names of sugar factories in Tamil (b) whether non-payment of sugarcane Nadu, which have already expanded their price arrears will have any restriction on their daily cane crushing capacity since First future expansion ? Five Year Plan. 1. The Deccan Sugar & Abkhari Co. Ltd., THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Pugalur Sugar Factory, District Triuchira- MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI palli, ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) Statement 2. Cauvery Sugar & Chemicals Ltd., Kattur, giving the names of sugar factories in Tamil Pettaivaytalai, District Tiruchirapalli. Nadu which have been granted letters of intent/ licences for effecting substantial expansion and 3. The South India Steel & Sugars Ltd., are yet to complete the same and also of those Mundiyampakkam, Villupuram Talul sugar factories which have already expanded District South Arcot. their crushing capacities since First Five Year 4. North Arcot District Cooperative Sugar Plan, is laid on the Table of the Sabha. No Mills Ltd., Vadapudupet, Ambur District application is pending consideration for ex North Arcot. pansion in the existing sugar factories in Tamil 5. Kothari Sugar & Chemicals Ltd., Kattur, Nadu. Railway Station Lalgudi District Tiruchi (b) No, Sir. rapalli. 25 Oral Atuwm SRAVANA 21, 1893 (SAKA) Orel Answers 26 SHRI LAKSHMINARAYANAN: In the not paid the dues to the c*ne»growers—now statement the names of nearly ten factories they are getting all facilities from the Govern have been given to whom expansion licences ment—will be prevented at least from expand or letters of intent have been given. May I ing further, in order to save the growers as know from the hon. Minister whether the well as the industry ? Government is aware that the EID Parry & Co. it increasing its capacity from 2000 to 3000 SHRI ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE : The tonnes a day ? actual position is that out of the total dues of Rs. 22,56,00,000 for the sugar cane purchased SHRI ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE: If by the sugar factories in Tamil Nadu, Rs. letters of intent or licences have been issued in 17,77,00,000 have been paid and the arrears the past for the expansion of any factory, are Rs. 4,79,00,000 and now as the House is legally it is not within our powers to prohibit aware, as far as the arrears of cane price are that company from expanding its capacity. comemed, we have been impressing upon the State Government that necessary steps includ SHRI LAKSHMINARAYANAN: The ing coercive measures should be taken to recover name of that factory is not found in this list. the arrears of sugar cane price so that the That is why I wanted to know whether it is a growers do not suffer. fact that the EID Parry Co., Nellikuppam is ex panding their capacity from 2000 tonnes a SHRI LAKSHMINARAYANAN rose. day to 3000 tonnes. My question has not been MR. SPEAKER: Now you have had answered. enough of the back bencher’s privilege. SHRI LAKSHMINARAYANAN: There SHRI ANNASAHEB P SHINDE : There are a lot of sugar cane growers who have not are two points inv olved. I have actually made been paid. That is why the question, Sir. the point. Since the hon. Member wants some clarification, factories can expand witlun MR. SPEAKER: There is only half a the licences or letters of intent issued to them minute more for the Question Hour to end. because expansion upto Rs. 1 crore, according You can take it if you are not still satisfied. to the decision of the Industrial Development You are the last gentleman to ask question Ministry, is permitted for industrial underta during this session. kings within particular limits. If any company is expanding within that limit, it is legally pei- SHRI LAKSHMINARAYANAN: In missible. Tamil Nadu, when the sugar-cane growers approached the State Government for non The list of companies to whom expansion payment of the sugar cane price, the factories’ licences or letters of intent have been given has plea was that the Central Government are aot been laid on the Table of the Sabha. giving adequate credit. When we approach the Central Government they say, this is a SHRI LAKSHMINARAYANAN: My subject which should be considered by the second supplementary is.... State Government. This state of a flairs is continuing. MR. SPEAKER : Is it still the second one? MR. SPEAKER: I am going to declare SHRI LAKSHMINARAYANAN: Yes, that the Question Hour is over. Sir. The first one was only by way of clarifi cation. My second question is : most of the SHRI LAKSHMINARAYANAN : I would sugar factories in Tamil Nadu for this season like to ask the hon. Minister whether some of 1970-71 have not paid even 50% of the policy will be devised so that both the Govern price for sugar cane supplied to them till this ments, Central and States, put together, may day. Even for last year they have not paid take proper action against the factories, who fully to the sugar cane suppliers. If such have not paid the sugar-cane dues promptly. ♦Kings are going to happen, it will ruin the industry, the growers as also the Government. SHRI ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE : There In view of all these things may I know from are no two opinions between the Tamilnadu the Minister whether those factories who have Government and ourselves. 1 am again taking 27 Written Answtrs AUGUST 12, 1971 Written Answtrs 28 it up with the Tamilnadu Government so Payment of Compensation to Private that necessary action is taken by the Govern Entrepreneurs for Diamond Mines la ment to recover the arrears of sugar-cane Pasma District of Madhya Pradesh prices. ♦1720. SHRI NARENDRA SIN H : MR. SPEAKER : The Question Hour is Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES over. be pleased to state : (a) whether the private entrepreneurs from WRITTEN ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS whom Government have since taken over the Diamond Mines in the Panna District of Self-Sufficiency in Medium and Small Size Madhya Pradesh, have been paid compensa Tractors tion ; and ♦1711. DR. SARADISH ROY: Will the (b) if so, the total amount paid to them so Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to far? state : THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND (a) whether there is a great shortage of MINES (SHRI MOHAN KUMARAMANG medium and small size tractors in the country; ALAM) : (a) and (b). The diamond mines in question have not been taken over by the (b) whether these tractors which are in Government from private entrepreneurs. The short supply are readily available in black question of paying any compensation, theiefore, does not atise. market; and (c) if so, the steps taken to check black Setting up of a Steel Plant in Kozhikode Region of Kerala market on these tractors ? *1721. SHRI C. .JANARDHANAN : Will THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI ph ased to state : ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) Yes, Sir. (a) whether Government have explored the (b) It has come to the notice of the Govern possibility of setting up a steel plant in ment that in certain cases, tractors sold to Ko/hikodc xegion of Kerala ; and farmers in some States are being resold by (h) if so, the results thereof ? them to purchasers in the same and other States at a premium. THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI MOHAN KUM \RAMANG- (c) With a view to eliminating possible ALAM) : (a) The Geological Survey of blackmarketing in tractors, the (Government is India are yet to complete the investigations on making available a substantially large number the Kozhikode iron ore deposits. A view can of imported tractors through the Agro-Industries be taken on any investment proposal only after Corporations. The prices of these imported the investigations have been completed. tractors are fixed by the Projects and Equip (b) Does not arise. ment Corporation. Import of tractors as gifts from Indian relation living abroad has alto Central Assistance for Implementation been allowed with a view to easing the supply of Small Irrigation Schemes position. Besides steps are also being takfen by the Government to step up indigenous produc ♦1722. SHRI S. P. BHATTACHARYYA : tion of tractors in the country. In order to Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be arrest the mal-practices prevalent in the trade. pleased to state : The Government has also under consideration the promulgation of a Control Order on sale (a) the amount of financial assistance and distribution of tractors. This order is either as loan or as grant given by the Central likely to be promulgated soon. Government and each of its sponsored financial 29 Written Answers SRAVANA 21, 1893 {SAKA) Written Anmers 30 institutio n to each State during the last three individual scheme or group of schemes or head years for implementing small irrigation of development. In view of this, separate schemes ; and figures of central assistance for implementing minor irrigation schemes during the years 1969- (b) thr State-wise area benefited by this 70 and 1070-71 are not available. The State- assistance during the last three years ? wise figures of loan assistance provided for by the Land Developmrnt Banks, and the Central THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Cooperative Banks for minor irrigation schemes MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI during the year 1968-69 are given in Annexure. SHER SINGH) : (a) Statewise figures of Figures of investment from these sources for Central Assistance (Loans/Sub'.idies) for minor minor irrigation for the years 1969-70 and irrigation during 1968-69 are given in Annexure. 1970-71 are not yet available. According to the procedure in-vogue since 1st April, 1969. Central assistance to the State (b) The Statewise additional area benefited Governments for State Plan schemes is alloca by various minor irrigation schemes during the ted in block loans and grants for the annual years 1968-69 to 1970-71 are given in the plan as a whole and is not related to any attachrd statement. Statement Loans advanced Total additional area Cential assistance by Land Develop benefited by M. I, S. No. Name of State released during 1968-69 ment Bank and Schemes during Central Coopera 1908-69 to 1970-71 Loan Giant tive Bank during (Anticipated), 1968-69. (Rs. in Lakhs) j (Rs. in lakhs) ('Lakh Hectares) 1. Andhra Pradesh 180.00 45 00 1228 68 1.57 2. Assam 58.J 0 14.70 0.17 0.75 3. Bihar 596.76 149.09 229 86 3.25 4. Gujarat 239. TO 87.15 2^5.31 2.36 5. Himachal Pradesh — — 3.11 0.04 6. Jammu and Kashmir 60.00 15.00 8.56 0.22 7. Haryana 47.00 15 60 625.07 1.35 8. Kerala 136 80 34.20 26 91 0.36 9. Madhya Pradesh 370.11 92.53 549.01 2.56 10. Maharashtra 801.75 202.16 2405.09 3.44 11. Meghalaya — — — 0.02 12. Mysore 3b0.00 90.00 481.51 1.32 13. Nagaland — — — 0.03 14. Orissa 30.00 7.50 113.33 0.41 15. Punjab 12.00 21.75 1244.51 3.09 16. Rajasthan 130.80 32.70 270.56 1.11 17. Tamil Nadu 300.00 75.00 1548.35 2.73 18. Uttar Pradesh 1177.57 294.39 1959.19 14.97 19. West Bengal 372.60 93.15 51.04 1.53 Total States 4873.69 1269 92 10970.26 41.11 31 Written Answers AUGUST 12, 1971 Written Answers 32 AgMey to Rationalise Import of Farm ding is reported to be about Rs. 8 lakhs as on Machinery end of December, 1970. *1723. SHRI RANABAHADUR SINGH ; (b) 54 certificate cases are pending. The Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be dates of filing and the names of managements pleased to state : are given in the statement laid on the Table of the House. [Placed in Library. See No. LT— (a) whether there is some agency at the 909/71]. national level that rationalises the import of farm machinery ; (c) Certificate cases are filed in West Bengal under the Public Demands Recovery Act, 1913 (b) whether the States are allowed to import (Bengal Act) before the certificate officers farm machinery on an ad-hoc basis ; and appointed by the State Government under the above Act. The procedure by the certificate (c) if there is no such agency, whether officers is time consuming. The main reasons Government propose to set up one ; and if so ; for the delay in disposal of cases are non- its salient features ? service of notices and non-appearance of ceiti- cate debtors before thr certificate officers. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI Setting up a Central State Farm in Gujarat ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) The import of tractors and allied farm machinery is ration* *1725. SHRI JADEJA: Will the Minister alised at the level of the Union Ministry of of AGRICULTURE be pleased to state : Agriculture. (a) whether there i* any proposal to set up (b) The import of tractors and allied farm a Central State Farm in Gujarat; and machinery is arranged through the Projects and Equipment Corporation of India and thr (b) if so, the site of the farm selected ? concerned State Agro-Industries Corporations, etc. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI (c) Does not arise. ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE): (a) No Sir. Certificate Cases Against Colliery Manage* (b) Docs not arise. ments in West Bengal Requirement for Agricultural Engineer *1724. DR. RANEN SEN : Will the Minis ing Graduates and their Employment ter of LABOUR AND REHABILITATION *17^6. SHRI M\DHURYYA HALDAR : be pleased to state : Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be (a) whether Governmrnt are aware that a pleased to state : large number of certificate cases against the (a) the estimated annual requirements for colliery managements in West Bengal for non Agricultural Engineering Graduates in the payment of various legal dues amounting to country and out-turn; several crores of rupees are pending in Asansol Court for a long time ; (b) whether any survey about requirements of the country was made before planning (b) if so, the number of cases which are pen educational facilities for such engineers; and ding together with the dates of filing and the names of managements against whom they (c) the reasons for large scale unemployment were filed: and amongst the Agricultural Engineering Gradu (c) the raasons for the delay in disposal of ates despite the planned green revolution ? the cases ? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI REHABILITATION (SHRI R. K. KHADIL- ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE): (a) According K A R ): (a) Yes, Sir. The total amount pen to the latest estimates made by 'Manpower 33 Wrill0 i Answtrs SRAVANA 21, 1893 (SAKA) Written Answers 34 Planni ng Unit’ of the Department of Agricul (b) As the situation continued to remain ture, Ministry of Agriculture, in 1969, the fluid, no precise forecast is possible. The in requirements for Agricultural Engineering flux is however, expected to reach the 10 Graduates for the five-year period of 1969*1973 million mark. were reported to be 610, i. t. an annual require ment of 122. (c) In view of the continued influx and The average annual output of Agricultural magnitude of the problem it has not been pos Engineering Graduates in recent years works sible to provide immediate shelter to all the out to about 263. refugees who have come, although arrange ments have been made to cover all of them. (b) No. (d) This is a mere Pakistani propaganda. (c) The “Green Revolution" has, no doubt, The fact that the influx or refugees continues resulted in increased production but it has not at the rate of 45,000 persons per day shows generated so far enough job opportunities for that the brutalities continue in East Bengal pre Agricultural Engineers. As farm incomes go venting refugees from going back. up as a result of the green revolution, mechani sation of farm operations, rural electrification Factories, Textile Mills and Collieries and agro-processing industry picks up, more Closed in West Bengal and more jobs for Agricultural Engineers are likely to become available. Absence of self- *1728. SHRI JAGADISH BIIATTAGHA- employment opportunities, limited demand of RYYA : Will the Minister of LABOUR AND private sector, lack of credit facilities as well as REHABILITA HON be pleased to 'tate : insufficient orientation of education program mes to create self-employment potential in (a) whether laige number of factories, tex tile mills and collieries were under closure in Agricultural Engineering Graduates are some West Bengal ; of the other reasons for their unemployment. (b) the estimated number of unemployed Influx of Bangla Desh Refugees woikers in West Bengal; *1727. SHRI SAMAR GUHA : Will the (c) whether most of the management people Minister of LABOUR AND REHABILITA have not turned up at at bitration when called TION be pleased to state : by the Labour Department ; and (a) the latest figures of the influx of the (d) the steps taken by (iovarnmenl to re refugees from Bangla Desh and its break-up open these c losrd factories ? State-wise ; THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND (b) the expected influx of Bangla Desh re REHABILITATION (SHRI R. K. KHADIL- fugees and the reasons for th a t; KAR) (a ): Yes. (c) whether Government have succeeded to provide all refugees shelters from monsoon; (b) According to the available information the number of job-seekers registered with the and Employment Exchanges in West Bengal was (d) the reaction of Government to Pakistani 6,8),501 as on May 31, 1971. claim to the effect that refugees are going back to Bangla Desh in large number ? (c) Information available in th< Ministry of Labour docs not indicate this. THE MINIS rER OF LABOUR AND REHABILITATION (SHRI R. K. KHADIL- (d) Closures may be due to a number of KAR) (a) As on 10.8.1971, 75,13,776 refugees factors including labour trouble. In cases of from East Bengal have crossed over to India. closures due to labour trouble, the State Conci Their State-wise break-up is as follows : liation Machinery has been making efforts to West Bengal: 56,73,178 refugees upto 7.8.1971 secure re-opening of the closed units by persua Assam: 2,42,025 refugees upto 1.8.1971 sion. According to the information made Meghalaya: 3,27,508 refugees upto 1.8.1971 available by the Government of West Bengal, Tripura : 12,62,158 refugees upto 7.8.1971 of the 221 factories and establishments which Bihar ; 8,907 refugees upto 1.8.1971 had closed down between March 20 and De* 35 Written Answers AUGUST 12, 1971 Written Answers 36 cember 3 1, 1970, 33 units subsequently re Statem ent opened following efforts by the State Concilia tion Machinery. In cases of closure due to The President of the Indian Agricultural shortage of raw material, Government issue Research Institute Branch of the Association of where neccssary, advance import licences. As Scientific Workers of India issued on behalf of for closures due to mismanagement, neccssary the Association a statement published in ‘Times action is taken by Government where called of India ’ that he had no knowledge oi the pub for under the Industries (Development and lication of the pamphlet. He is conducting an Regulation) Act. enquiry into how and by whom this pamphlet was published. The Director, Indian Agricul tural Research Institute, discussed the points Research by I. C. A. R. In Evolving Wheat nmdc in the article in the All Institute Scienti and Maize of high Protein Content fic Staff Meeting on 17th July, 1971 which was attended by 500 scientists. The manner in *1729. SHRI PILOO MODY : which controversy was raised and its being SIIRI C. CHITriBABU : without any basis was severely criticised in the SHRI VIKRAMCHAND meeting by the scientists themselves. None of MAHAJAN : the office-bearers of the Association asked any question or presented any data on which thejr Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be views weie based. The Secretary of the Asso pleased to state: ciation spoke that his aim was only to provoke a ‘Healthy controversy.’ The entire scientific community including the post-graduate .stu (a) whether the attention of Government dents was upset over the report and both the has been drawn to a statement by the Associa Pusa Reseateli Society and the Post-Graduate tion of Scientific Workers of India questioning Students’ Union passed unanimous resolutions th e‘tall claims’ made by the Indian Agricul deploring sucli unscientific activity on the tural Research Institute regarding its research part of a few staff members. The Diieetor achievements, particularly in evolving wheat clarified the issue in ‘ Timev of India ’ of and maize of a high protein content ; and 20.7.71. The leading newspapers have regret- led the unscientific manner in which the con (b) if so, the reaction of Government in this troversy was raised. regard ? E. P. F. Dues w ith Edward Textile Mills, TIIE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Bombay MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) A pamphlet *1730. SHRI SAMAR MUKHERJEE : entitled ‘Young Scientist’ stated on its cover Will the Minister of LABOUR AND REHA page to be the official publication of the Indian BILITATION be pleased to state : Agricultural Research Institute Branch of the (a) whether the management of closed Association of Scicntific Workers of India had Edward Textile Mills, Bombay had not yet been issued bearing the date 1. 6. 1971. This paid lakhs of rupees of Provident Fund dues pamphlet carried an unsigned article entitled to the workers ; and ‘Agricultural Research-Claims versus Realities’ (b) the steps taken by Government to pay casting doubts on the contributions made by the same to the workers ? agricultural scientists in general and on a few items of research carried out at the Indian THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND Agricultural Research Institute. * REHABILITATION (SHRI R. K. KHADIL KAR) : The administration of the Employees’ (b) A statement is placed on the table of Provident Fund is the concern of the Central the House. The Government, therefore, con Board of Trustees set up under the Employees’ siders that the publication of a pamphlet in an Provident Fund* and Family Pension Fund unscientific manner was not the proper form Act, 1952 and not the direct concern of the of expression of the views and it was not based Central Government. The Provident Fund au on facts. thorities have reported as under : 37 Written Answers SRAVANA 21, 1893 (SAKA) Written Answers 38 (a) and (b). M/» Edward Textile Mills, ( *T ) *1 7 3 1 . WZ : ^ T (a) wh< thei the Ministry has decided to «n? ark grofe? inft «r,TR spr frr give a mjvv content and meaning to agticultural research and education (luting the Fourth Trn f^T : Plan ; (*r) ^ri * oti ?t (b) if so, whether the Indian Council of Agricultural Rescaich is curiently working out *pt m^rr % ^nfr f a *T vrra % plans to implement new pay scales for agii- jr^psr *r f^Krr ^ rr^ r cultural scientists which at present are com- TOTfT % brf^lfrzn % ^ SffcpTM p«uativcly lower than those of the scientists working in othi i scientific organisations ; and | U ; (c) if so, when the final decision in this (*) srfc zr,3t zrrsFrr ^ stpt jej>aid is hkely to be taken ? | 3t>t w t 5TTonf«pff swrif THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE I ?r«rr %??nr spt z't ^ftc MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI r e p F T ? f t T T fsr ST2T 3T T ^m ; t f V ANNASAHEB P. .SHINDE,) : (a) Yes, Sir. (tt) sTTcnfw ^fr m *T*fr (b) and (r). The Indian Council of arr sn?rre | ? Agiirultutal Rrseauh is being re-organised with a view to making it an autonomous Centtal agency responsible lot pionioting, «ro aftr g?wfcr («ft ttt3 ° coordinating and directing research and wfwFr): (v) i fan % education in the field of agriculture and f a if qfJpTT % Sr^TTfWT W animal sciences through out the country. A* one of the basic principles and objectives of v tf srwr^r ^ t • fr«rrfr, the scljcme of rcoi ganisation is to improve the % srnr ?rq s r^ rr f t r r 'TfV^rfr working conditions of agricultural research % (3ft 26 wr*, 1971 ^ ^srr%«r) sc icntists, efforts have been made from the very initial stage of reorganisation of the sr^r if *ffarr fsrsr ^ % Council at improving the scales of pay of gmwl- ijfa % ^rer*r, jrefa agricultural scientists. The pay scales of a number of posts at the Council's headquarters % if rr«rr *nar sr^r tit v & t and in the Research Institutes under it, have t o t % 8rfir A ssessment of Unemployment due to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Automation MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE): (a) to (c). *1733. SHRI BIREN DUTTA : Will the The Central State Farm at Cannanore in Minister of LABOUR AND REHABILITA Kerala has been set up with the gift machinery TION be pleased to state : and equipment received from the USSR Government. The total area of this farm will (a) whether Government have made any be about 12,000 acres. Out of this area, 7360 assessment of unemployment as a result of acres have already been acquired by the installation of Electronic Computers in the Kerala Government for the farm. The work various Departments; of the farm has begun and an area of 109 acres was brought under cultivation during (b) whether Government have received any Kharif, 1971. Machinery worth Rs. 15.9 lakhs memorandum opposing the introduction of has already arrived from USSR and some computers in Life Insurance Corporation and more machinery is likely to come shortly. Railways ; and (c) if so, the reaction of Government there Loss incurred by Hindustan Steel Ltd. to ? THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND •1735. SHRI KRISHNA HALDER : Will REHABILITATION (SHRI R. K. the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be KHADILKAR) : (a) No, Sir. pleased to state : (b) Yes, Sir. (a) whether any estimate has been made (c) The policy of the Government is that by the Hindustan Steel Ltd., about the pro- there is no blanket ban on the introduction of bable years by which the Corporation is automatic dcvices, including electronic com* expected to break even ; and puters as such, pending the Government deci sion on the report of the Committee on (b) whether any long term production and Automation. Installation of these devices have, marketing plan has been formulated by the however, to be in accordance with the Corporation to aveit the losses and run the procedure laid down in the ..Model Agreement Corporation smoothly ? on Rationalisation, as adopted at the 15th Session of Indian Labour Conference. In regard to imported computers, there is a THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND procedure for screening before such imports are MINES (SHRI MOHAN KUMARAMANG* allowed. Life Insurance Corporation and ALAM) : (a) Yes, Sir. Hindustan Steel Ltd. Railways have been advised to follow these had estimated that it would make a profit on procedures before embarking on their pro the basis of the production programme drawn grammes of computerisation. up for the year 1971*72. This is not, however, likely now due to the accident at the Rourkela Working of Aaralem Farm at Cannanore, Steel Plant. If the production planned for Kerala 1972*73 is achieved, Hindustan Steel Ltd. is expected to break even that year. *1734. SHRI A. K. GOPALAN: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased (b) The profitability of the Company is to state : dependent principally on the extent of utilisa (a) the details of working of Aaralem Farm tion of installed capacity. To maximise this, act up with the aid of Soviet Union in the Company is rap king concerted efforts to Cannanore District, Kerala; eliminate limitations and constraints on full production and step up production as rapidly (b) whether the working of the Farm will as possible. Marketing plans have also been begin before thi-s ycar*end ; and drawn up consistent with the aim of averting (c) if so, the main features thereof? losses. 41 Written Answers SRAVANA 21, 1893 (SAKA) Written Answers 42 Pro curement of Foodgrains by FCI in operative Credit Society Limited, Kistna Haryana District, Andhra Pradesh recently regarding the defective construction of the rice mill, *1736. SHRI RAJDEO SINGH: which has been constructed by the Andhra SHRI ARJUN SETHI : Pradesh State Cooperative Marketing Federa Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be tion Limited, on behalf of the Society ; pleated to state : (b) if so, the broad points made out in the (a) whether the Food Corporation of India complaint; and was not allowed to operate the augmentation (c) the action taken or proposed to be of storage capacity, which has not kept pace taken in the matter ? with the State needs by the Haryana Govern- m eut; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI (b) whether the Food Coi poration of India’s ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) The role in Haryana is now restricted to receiving National Cooperative Development Corpora foodgrains procured by the State agencies for tion has recently received a complaint from the Central Pool; the Kolavennu Larger Si/ed Cooperative (c) whether the accumulation of the stock Credit Society Limited. has prompted the State Government of Haryana (b) The broad points made in the complaint to stop procurement operation ; and are as follows : (d) if the replies to (a), (b) and (c) be in (0 That the Andhra Pradesh State Co aflirmative, what steps Government propose to operative Marketing Federation Ltd., take to avoid such a development ? which was entrusted with the responsi bility of constructing the rice mill for THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the society, had spent more than MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI reasonable amount on the construction ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) No such of the rice mill; restiiction was imposed on the Food Corpora* (ii) That the society was not associated tion of India. with matters relating to the installation of the m ill; and (b) In case of rice and wheat the Food Corporation of India’s role in Haryana is at (iii) That the construction of the mill is defective. present restricted to receiving foodgrains procured by the State agencies for the Central (i) The National Cooperative Development Pool. However, in pursuance of State Govern Corporation does not give assistance direct to ment’s request, the Food Corporation of India cooperatives, but only to the State Govern is undertaking price support operations for ments to enable them to assist the cooperatives. paddy, maize, bajra and jowar. The society has, therefore, to approach the State Government for obtaining necessary (c) The State Government is continuing relief. The Corporation, however, has also procurement operation except for temporary taken up the matter with the State authorities. suspension where necessary due to rains. (d) Does not arise. Setting up of a Nickel Plant in Orissa Complaint regarding Defective Construc •1738. SHRI KUMAR MAJHI : will tion of Rice Mill in Andhra Pradesh by the Minister of Steel and mines be pleased to Andhra Pradesh State Cooperative state: . Marketing Federation Ltd. (a) whether Government have completed the technical examination of the feasibility •1737. SHRI K. SWRYANARAYANA: report submitted by M/s. Chemical and Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be Metallurgical Design Company, New Delhi pleated to state: and taken investment decision for setting up of (a) whether his Ministry has received any a Nickel Plant based upon the Sukhinda complaint from Kolavennu larger sized Co deposits in Qcisiz; Written Ansivrrs AUGUST 12, 1971 Written Answers (b) if not,the impediments to arrive at a the Indian Council of Agricultural Research decision ; during 1970-71 ; (b) the number of posts for which salary is (c) whether the plant will be set up in the more than Rs. 2000 ; and public sector jointly by the Government of India and the State Goverment of Orissa or by (c) whether there is any proposal to set up Government of Oiissa alone ; and an independent body to make selection to the (d) whether a copy of the feasibility report posts under Indian Council of Agricultural Research ? has been laid on the Table and supplied to the State Government ? T1IE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI MOHAN KUMARAMANG ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) The total ALAM) : (a) and (b). Technical examination number of posts advertised by the Indian Council of Agricultural Research during of the feasibility report is yet to be completed. 1970-71 (fiom 1st April 1970 to 31st March The investment decision can be taken only 1971) was 691. after the result of the examination is known. (b) Two. (c) This will be considered at the appio- (<) No, Sir. The Administrative Reforms priate time. Commission has, however, in its Report (d) No, Sir. on Scientific Departments, inter alia, recom mended that recruitment to Class I posts in all Appointment of General Managers of scirntific organisations linanccd fiom the public Steel Plant* in States funds, should be done thiough a special wing of the Union Public Service Commission, the *1739. SHRI S. S. MOTTAPATRA : Will Head of which would be an eminent scientist the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be who would be dtsignated as Vice-Chairman pleased t o state : of the Union Public Service (Jommission. This (a) whether Government consult the res recommendation is at present under examina pective State Governments for appointing tion by the Government of India. General Managers of Steel Plants located in their respective States : and 5T&T S xT5T3» fflWTf (b) if not, the reasons therefor ? 7 775. »rm : w r f f a THE MINISTER OF STEEL \ND ipfr $qrr f* : MINES (SHRT MOHAN KUMARAMANG ALAM) : (a) No, Sir. *T«T sfor TOiaS ffarf srt3PTPT tost | | | aft* s?r (b) Appointment to top posts in public sector undertakings including General Managers of ?T'4T F4RT % ^ WT | rrj the Steel Plants are generally made out of panels of suitable persons drawn from various sources maintained by the Bureau («r) w ^f^rrr % of Public Enterprises for manning such posts. Selection of Posts Under Indian Council (n) st, eft W ’ff % *n*r w r f ? of Agricultural Research 3 ttw wwt («ft R15): *1740. SHRI P. ANTONY REDDY: ( ^ ) (»t) . **** 5ft Tfft Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to state : | s i k 5TM ffti ft *r*rr t c (a) the total number of posts advertised by f t srn tfti 45 Written Aimxts SRAVANA 21, 1893 (SAKA) Written Annms 46 Research Scheme of Fisheries in different States and Union Territories of the country ; 777G. SHRI ROBIN KAKOTI : Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE ho pleased to (b^ the total amount allotted to various state the names of the States where new States in the Fourth Five Year Plan for research scheme to give fisheries a big boost development of forests ; are going to be implemented ? (<) whether Government have recently THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE drawn up a ivw Forest Development Scheme ; MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE): The India.. (d) if so, thf* States where the new Forest Council of Agricultural Research has sanctioned Development Projects are going to be taken the following seven All India Coordinated up ; Projects during the Fourth Five Year Plan : (e) whether reserve forest areas of some of 1. Studies on the ecology ancl fisheries of til'* States aie decreasing alarmingly due to fieshwater resetvoin. The main centre unauthorised occupation ancl deforestation for is in Andhra Pradesh with sub-centtes cultivation ; and in Tamil Nadu and Uttar Pradesh. 2. Composite culture of Indian and exotic (f) if so, the names of surh States and the fishes. The main centre is in West steps taken to prevent it } Bengal with sulwenties in Andhra Pradesh. Haryana, Maharashtra, Mysore, THE MINIS I'HR Ol*' Sl'ATE IN THE Tamil Nadu and Uttar Pradesh. MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 3. Investigations on riverine carp spawn SHER SINGII; : (a) and 'b;. Statement I prospecting and collection techniques. showing fi) the area under tn n vc forests land The main cenlteis in Uttar Pradesh with in the States and Union Territories during sub-centres in Assam, Bihai and West 19Gf}-t>9 and (ii) the total allocation made by Bengal. the various States and Union Territories in the Fourth Five Year Plan for the develop 4. Propagation and stocking of seed of air ment of Forests is attached. breathing fishes. The main centre if in Bihar with sub-centres in Assam and (c) No new Forest Development Schemes Mysore. have been proposed during IV Plan Period. 5. Study of marine prawn biology and I lowever, the Project for the Pre-investment resources. The main centre is in Kerala Survey of Forest Resources started in 1%5 as with sub-centres in Andhra Pradesh, a United Nations Special Fund/Food and Goa, Maharashtra, Orissa and Tamil Agricultural Organisation/Government of Nadu. India Pioject which was completed in October 6. Transportation of fresh fish. The main 1965 has been continued as a Government of centres are in Gujarat and Andhra India Project thereafter for investigation of Pradesh with sub-centres in Maharashtra economic availability of iaw-materials for and West Bengal. development of wood-based industries in the country. 7. Utilisation of trash fish. The main centre is in Kerala with sub-crntres in ( Statement State/Union Territory Reserved Forest land (1968-69) Allocation in Fourth Five (Thousand hec.) Year Plan (1969-74) (Rs. in lakhs) I STATE Andhra Pradesh 4,315 225.00 Assam 1,667 337.00 ' Bihar 441 450.00 Gujarat 616 350.00 Haryana 16 150.00 Himachal Pradesh 186 980.00 Jammu & Kashmir • 325.00 Kerala 901 416 00 Madhya Pradesh 7,994 950.00 Maharashtra 4,010 750.00 Meghalaya Included under Assam 88.00 Mysore 3,115 400.00 Nagaland 31 113.00 Orissa 3,032 325 00 Punjab 4 300.00 Rajasthan 1,102 2«.00 Tamil Nadu 1,724 440.00 Uttar Pradesh 3,136 1500.00 West Bengal 702 191.00 11 UNION TERRITORY A & N Islands 244 67.40 Chandigarh 2.00 Delhi 1 (a) Dadra & Nagar Haveli 21 5.00 Goa Daman & Diu 105 70.60 Manipur 551 67.10 N. E. F. A. 1,217 160.00 Tripura 409 106.00 All India 35,630 9001.20 •Classification of reserved Forest land docs not exist. (^Provision is included under Soil Conservation. Fishing Harbours during Fourth Plan THE MINISTER OF STA1 E IN THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 7778. SHRI GANGA REDDY : Will the ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) The total Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to number of fishermen in India in 1970 was state: estimated to be J8.4 lakhs, of whom 10.4 lakhs (a) the number of fishermen in India ; were full time fishermen while remaining 8 (b) the monthly income derived from fishe lakhs were engaged ia fishing operations on part-time hasis. ries industry ; and (c) how many fishing harbours are at (b) Based on the estimates of Net National present and how many will come up during Income computed by the Central Statistical the Fourth Five Year Plan ? Organisation, the net income derived monthly 49 WHUmAmmt SRAVANA 21, 1893 (SAJCA) Writm Answtrs 50 from the Fisheries industry during 1967-68, breeds of goats. Some of these breeds 1968*69 and 1969*70 worked out to Rs. 12.8 are found in the Western Himalayan crores, R* 14.4 crores and Rs. 16.3 crorcs regions at an altitude of 10,000 feet and respectively. above. There is one small experimental Pashmina Goat Farm in Ladakh. (c) Self-contained fishing harbours have not (iii) I. C. A. R. is taking up a co-ordinated so far bern provided. Harbour facilities for research project for the development of fishing vessels in the form of jetties, wharves Pashmina. and ramp (c) bow much Income is derived from Pash (b) the basis to realise Rs. 30 per square meena Wool by way of export during 1971-72 ? yard from the allottees of the said colony ; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) whether it has been considered that MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI while the development cost is being charged SHER SINGH): (a) Alpine pastures are to for the said plot of land, the prices of land be found in upper Himalayan regions. The can only be charged after completion of all Ministry is establishing a Regional Station on development and if so, whether the same Forage Production and Demonstration in procedure is being followed ; and Jammu and Kashmir for improved manage (d) if not, the reasons therefor ? ment of village grazing lands and natural grass lands specially Alpine pastures. The State THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND Government of Jammu and Kashmir have REHABILITATION (SHRI R. K. KHADIL- taken steps to develop Alpine pastures which KAR): (a) The land of the East Pakistan Dis are being top dressed with fertilizers etc. placed Persons’ Colony near Kalkaji was ac (ii) Pashmina is the under-coat consisting of quired through the Delhi Administration very fine fibres produced by special under the Resettlement of Displaced Persons 51 Written Answers AUGUST 12,1971 Written Ansictrs 52 (Land Acquisition) Act, 1948. Sonar of the got mining lease for lime-stone in village land owners whose land has been acquired Saraya, Bhawanathpur Palamau, Bihar ; have filed appeals for upward revision of the price awarded to them. Taking into considera (b) if to, the amount invested in that min tion some of the appellate awards already ing and its yield expected therefrom ; made, a price of Rs. 4 /-per square yard has been taken as the pricc of land on a provisional (c) whether Bokaro Steel Ltd. is doing the basis. lease work itself; and (b) The price of Rs. 30/- per square yard (d) if not the names and addresses of those has been arrived ai provisionally bv adding the contractors who have been given the lease cost of acquisition at Rs. 4/- per square yard work ? for the entire ar quircd area and the disburse ments made to Ccntial Public Works Depart THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ment for development and by dividing the total MINISTRY OF S TEEL AND MINES (SHRI by the plot area available for allotment accord SHAHNAWAZ KHAN) : (a) Yes, Sir. ing to the approved layout. (c) and (d). Do not arise. (b) The Bhavunathpui limestone deposit at Saraiya is under development. Bokaro Preference to Local People for Recruit Steel Ltd. have so far spent Rs 5 crores on the m ent in H.E.G. Ranchi and Bokaro Steel quairy including Rs. 4 crores with South Ltd. Eastern Railway tbi providing Railway Siding fiom Meralgram to Bhavanathpur. This depo 7781. KUMARI KAMLA KUMARI: sit is expected to yield about 60 million ton Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be nes of blast furnace grade limestone. pleased to state : (c) and (d). Bokaro Steel Ltd. have been (a) whether there is serious discontentment doing the lease work themselves and have not among the people of Chotanagpur (Bihar) granted any sub-lease to any contractor. about the recruitment oi persons in Ii. E. C,, Ranchi and Bokaro Steel Ltd. etc ; and Employees* working In H. E. C. Ranchi (b) whether there are any Central guide and Bokaro Steel Limited lines to be adopted by these Public Sector Pro jects to give preference to the local population 7783. KUMARI KAMLA KUMARI: as regards employment ? Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI (a) the total number of employees from the SHAHNAWAZ KHAN) : (a) No, Sir. lower to the highest cadres working in the H. E. C. Ranchi and Bokaro Steel Limited, (b) Yes, Sir. According to these guidelines, separately ; and the recruitment to posts carrying a salary of less than Rs. 500 per month is done through (b) the total number out of them who are the local employment exchanges and in selec from Chotanagpur division (Bihar) with special tion preferences is given to persons displaced reference to Palamau district ? from the lands acquired for the project or scheduled castes and scheduled tribes. The THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE procedure provides a pronounced weigh- MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI tage to the recruitment of local persons. SHAHNAWAZ KHAN): (a) The total num ber of employees of all categories working in Mining Lease for Lime Stone by Bokaro the H. E. C. Ranchi is 17,706. The corres Steel Ltd. In Bihar ponding number for « Bokaro Steel Limited is 9,149. 7782. KUMARI KAMLA KUMARI; Will the Minister or STEEL AND MINES (d) Employment statistics are not main be pleased to state: tained with reference to place of birth and (a) whether the Bokaro Steel Limited has domicile. 53 Writtm Answtrs SRAVANA 21, 1893 (SAKA) tt raten Answers Management of Smmastipur Sugar Mills Mangarnpet area during 1970 and 1971 (upto Ltd. June) is given below 7784. SHRI BHOGENDRA JH A : Will 197« 44,207 tonnes the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased 1971 (Jan.—June) 9,048 tonnes (Provi to refer to the reply given to Unstarred Ques tion No. 5700 on the 22nd July, 1971 and sional) state: The information in t regard to export of barytes is being collected and will be placed (a) whether it is proposed to extend Govern on the Tabic of the House when received. ment control over management of the Samasti- pur Central Sugar Mills Ltd. beyond the 13th September, 1971 ; and Deposits of Lead Ore in Kerala (b) if so, the main features thereof ? 7786. SHRI VAYALAR RAVI : Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE to state : MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI SHER SINGH): (a) and (b). Thr matter is (a) whcthei the Geological Survey of India under consideration of the Government. made any survey m Nedumangadu, Kerala lo find out the total deposit of the lead ore in that area ; Deposits of Barytes in Andhra Pradesh (b) if so, the findings theieof; and 7785. SHRI ESWARA RKDDY : Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINKS be pleased (c) the steps proposed to be taken to explore to state : the possibilities to establish a lead mine there ? (a) whether deposits of fine quality of 1'HE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Barytes have been found at Mangarnpet, MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI Rajampet Taluk, Cuddapah district, Andhia SHAHNAWAZ KHAN): (a) The Geologi Pradesh ; cal Survey of India has not conducted any detailed survey of Ncdumangad area of Kerala for lead as no lead occurrence has been recor (b) whether any personnel on behalf of ded in that aiea. Geological Survey of India visited these pus and examined thr deposits ; (b) and (c). Do not arise. (c) if so, the details of their investigations ; and Intensive Development of Fisheries Co operatives in Kerala (d) the total quantity of Barytes extracted from these pits and exported in 1970-71 ? 7787. SHRI VAYALAR RAVI: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI (a) whether Government have received any SHAHNAWAZ KHAN) : (a) and (b). Yes, proposal from the Kerala Government for in Sir* tensive development of Fisheries Cooperative* with the aid of Agricultural Refinance Cor (c) As a result of field studies carried out poration at Anjengo ; in Mangarnpet area, inferred reserves of 38.6G lakh tonne* of barytes cfeposits have been (b) if so, the salient features of the scheme; located upto a depth of90 metres. The barytes and found in the area are mostly of grey variety. (c) the steps taken to implement the (dj The production of barytes from scheme ? 55 WritUn Ansuxrs AUGUST 12,1971 IVritUn Answtrt 56 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Kumar Iron and Steel (P) Ltd., Gauhati, MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI closed down in 1968 due to labour trouble, ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE): (a) No, Sir. financial difficulty and shortage of raw materials. The Company informed the Iron (b) and (c). Do not arise. and Steel Controller in April, 1971 that they were able to settle their labour problems, and Compensation paid to workers of Giridih proposed restarting the mill. Collieries Closure of Jersey Cattle Breeding Farm 7788. SHRI CHAPAL BHATTACHARY- Project in Punjab YA: Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased to state : 7790. SHRI DEVINDER SINGH (a) the total number of worker* retrenched GARCHA: Will the Minister of AGRICUL and/or voluntarily retired from Giridih Collie TURE be pleased to state s ries since 1963 ; (a) whether Rs. 12 lakhs Jersey cattle breed (b) the total amount of compensation paid ing farm project has been abandoned in Pun to these workers aod the minimum and maxi jab ; and mum compensation so paid ; (b) if so, the reasons therefor ? (e) whether the workers who voluntarily retired were given the understanding by TI1E MINISTER OF STATE IN THE National Coal Development Corporation that MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI in the matter of re-employment they would be SHER SINGH) : (a) and (b). Under the treated on the same footing as the retrenched ; 4th Plan the State Government wanted to set up an exotic cattle farm with an outlay of (d) the total number of newly employed Rs. 12 lakhs. While it was considered earlier persons all over National Coal Development that the breed should be Jersey, the State Corporation Collieries since 1968 ; and Government has since decided to set up a Brown Swiss Cattle farm under an Indo-Swiss (e) the total number of retrenched workers Project. lying unemployed in Giridih Collieries ? In consultation with technical experts the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE State Government has earmarked Patiala and MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI Sangrur districts for cross breeding with Brown SHAHNAWAZ KHAN) : (a) to (e). The Swiss. Accordingly, this breed will bedeve- information is being collected and will be laid loped at Patiala-Nabha. on the Table of the House. Appointment of Chairman, National Closure of Kumar Iron Rolling Mills Ltd., Commission on Agriculture Assam 7791. SHRI DEVINDER SINGH GAR 7789. SHRI ROBIN KAKOTY : Will the CHA : Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased be pleased to state : to state: (a) whether National Commission on Agri (a) whether the Kumar Iron Rolling Mills culture is without a Chairman since January Ltd., Assam has been closed for a long time this year ; and due to non-availability of raw materials such as billets etc.; and (b) if so, when it will be possible for the Government to appoint a Chairman ? (b) if so, the action taken or proposed to be taken in the matter ? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE): (a) and (b). MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI Shri B. Sivaraman who was appointed as Vice- SHAHNAWAZ KHAN) : (a) and (b). M/s. Chairman of the Commission with effect from 57 Written Answers SRAVANA 21, 1893 (SAKA) Written Answers 58 llth February, 1971 bat been carrying on the Rice Production through sew High- duties of the Chairman. Yielding Varieties 7794. SHRI DEVINDER SINGH Survey of quality of Fuel supplied to GARCHA : Will the Minister of AGRICUL Farmer* for Tractor* in Punjab TURE be pleased to state : (a) whether India has achieved another 7792. SHRI DEVINDER SINGH GAR- break-through in agricultural production with GHA : Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to state : the release of five new high-yielding varieties of paddy; and (a) whether Punjab Agricultural University (b) if so, to what extent the production lias conducted a survey about the quality of of rice would increase with these varieties ? fuel supplied to farmers for their tractors in Punjab; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI (b) if so, the main findings of this survey ? ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) . (a) These varie ties were released in September, 1970 and are THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE being tested according to their suitability to MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI different agro-dimatii regions during the ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE): (a) The Pun current kharif season. It is yet too early to jab Agricultural University has informed that assess whether the five newly released high- no survey about the quality of fuel supplied to yielding varieties of rice mark any thing like farmers for their tractors in Punjab has been a “break-through” in agricultural production. conducted by the Univeriity. (b) The varieties being high-yielders, better (b) Does not arise. grain type and resistant to insect pests and diseases are likely to become popular. Accor dingly the production of rice experted to in Working results of Central Fisheries Cor crease. The extent of increase will depend upon poration, Calcutta the results of the trials. 7793. SHRI DEVINDER SINGH GAR- Parliament Assistants working In CHA : Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE Ministry of Steel and Mines be pleased to state : 7795. SHRI HARI SINGH : Will the (a) whether the Central Fisheries Corpora Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased tion at Calcutta is running at a loss for the to state: last two years ; and (a) The number of Parliament Assistants working in his Ministry and the dates from (b) if so, its total loss during the last two which they are holding the posts ; years, year-wise ? (b) the reasons for not transferring them ; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE and MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE): (b) Thry are being ratained in their present TION be pleased to state : posts in the interests of efficiency of work end of continuity of experience, which is highly (a) whether the Engineering Times Publi desirable in this post. cations (Private) Limited has closed their printing plant and the publishing office at (c) Information is being collected and will Wachel Molla Mansion, Calcutta; be placed on the Table of the House. (b) tbe particulars of industrial disputes Consultancy Service by Central Engineer leading to tbe closure ; ing and Design Bureau of Hindustan Steel Limited in the Construction of Korba (c) whether the said company has started Plant printing and publishing their journals from Lovegrove Road, Bombay-18 ; and 7796. SHRI S. C. SAMANTA : Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINGS be pleased (d) whether the employees at Calcutta to state; offices have been paid compensation and other dues following the shift to Bombay ? (a) whether the Department of Mines and Hindustan Aluminium Corporation have THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND requested the Central Engineering and Design REHABILITATION (SHRI R. K. KHADIL- Bureau of Hindustan Steel Limited to provide KAR) : (a) to (d). The information is being consultancy service in the construction of stage collected and will be laid on the Table of the II of Korba Plant ; House after it is received. (b) whether the consultancy serviec provi Polytechnics in Delhi ded by the N. I. D. C. during Korba stage I was unsatisfactory ; and 7798. SHRI AMBESII: Will the Minister of IABOUR AND REII\BILITA TION be (c) if so, the reasons for not using the pleased to state : NIDC for the second stage also ! (a) the names of Polytechnics institutions THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE in Delhi ; MINISTRY OP STEEL AND MINES (SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN) : (a) to (c). The (b) the number of Vice-Principals, Instruc Bharat Aluminium Company Limited, and not tors and Supervisors in the above institutions ; the Hindustan Aluminium Corporation, have and appointed the Central Engineering and Design Bureau of Hindustan Steel Ltd. as prime con (c) the number of Scheduled Castes emp sultants and of the Project Management Agency loyees, category-wise, in the above institutions ? for Korba Smelter and Fabrication Units. The CEDB have the necessary expertise required THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND for the purpose, particularly on rolling mills REHABILITATION (SHRI R. K. KHADIL- which form a substantial portion of the Korba KAR) : Smelter and Fabrication Project. (a) 1. G. B. Pant Polytechnic, Okhla, New Delhi-20. As regards the consultancy service rendered by the National Industrial Development Cor 2. Pusa Polytechnic, Pusa, New Delhi. poration relating to the detailed engineering 3. 3rd Boys Polytechnic, Kasbmere of tbe Korba Alumina Plant, the same has Gate, Delhi-6. not been to the complete satisfaction of the 4. Women’s Polytechnic, Kashmere Bharat Aluminium Company Limited. Gate, Delhi-6. Closure of Engineering Times Publications (b) 1. Vice-Principal — Nil (Private) Limited Calcutta 2. Supervisors — Nil 7797, SHRI S. C. SAMANTA: Will the 3. Instructors (alltypes) —■ 98 Minister of LABOUR AND REHABILITA (c) Three Workshop Instructors. 61 Written Answtrs SRAVANA 21, 189 3 (SAKA) Written Answers 62 Sch eduled Castes mad Scheduled Tribes Graduates Registered in Delhi for the Posts of Trained Graduate Teachers and Post-Graduate Teachers 7800 «fy fo qifew : w 7799. SHRI AMBESH: Will the Minister fftr 5prr^ ^rr % : of LABOUR AND REHABILITATION be pleased to state : (w:) wt % *ft ??> ^rf ^ 3fc5pr STPTFT ^ f3T*(% ^ (a) the number of Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes trained graduates registered in Delhi for the post of Tiaincd Graduate s n c ^ r r 3ffr i t - t i \ m \ q f r , Teachers ; and («r) ^r, cfr wtvjx % (b) the number of Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes post-Graduates registered in anfrjr t w ^ wi Delhi for the post of post-Grad uato Tearhers, s s m r *mfr t , subject-wise ? (*t) t o h t ir JTRirr % THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND REHABILITATION (SHRI R. K. KHADIL- arsffa 3^ jt? KAR) : (a) and (b). q?t Jprffr i t | ? tw& w *r ww (*ft aiwrr- Number on Live Register of Employment F.xrhangrs m t i pt Scheduled Scheduled «nt % far* amf^r Castes Tribes ^ f f I I V ^ t TOTT *R«T *r 1 2 ______3 __ fcsto *rr«Frc T i t t 3f tx f^ r f rT % PTTT q ft 1. Trained Gra *nr ^cft | i atftonra feftspr % duate Tcachers 32 — qr^r fsr^ft srfa sftsrTj* cr«n 3r^*r?r ;titt 2. Post-Graduate fsnfr 3tYt sft 6 frpff p i 'arr^fr % Teachers Total: 28 - srf?r ^ ^ r «t 3T^r*r 3Tf*fa (i) Economics 9 — 7 w fts w * faffta (ii) Political JTT'cr §3tf t 1 Science 6 — (iii) English 3 — (w) fotor m w x %tr *ro% «tt tiw (iv) Hindi 3 % *TT3T 3RT3R SFTPT §tr $ (v) Sociology 2 afk qrrar^, 1971 * r Fwfh vr (vi) Mathematics 1 3r«m «r% aftr b t^ rt % ^ ^ i w (vii) Physics 1 w rr ®ft 3F^3fT5r*rr% % f?rq ^ sjst Star (viii) Geography 1 «rr 1 s?r % 1971 *rfar TrarTT (ix) History 1 tfw rem 1970-71 nftx 1971-72 % f«nrfW $ n* W R *?FT?ft t I afaftftptf sfapr %• SRTt^PT %■ fa q ScTpff % *IW^ $, TOTT gfrfcftr x w t t ttp tc ^ ^ ^ «ft spqrrar mxrft | fa ffa asrrff % % f^rq f*r 12.35 vftv ^ star fa n ^ fa n srr^r v s m x i x fW F w q?t n f «ft 1 TR7 % (*T) 3 TTfcT ^TRt ?h f ^ »rf f*r 8.5 fff^ewr srmt-ftwR 3 w | i^arfafapr, ?rfa 5^ ffwot ^ % fai? x * w i % fan f*r 10 mxte €r sr^T^rr^fr^r 7802. «lt *1*51 fa$ fw«? : w r f f a ^ ^ t w tft $ *t| 1 1 iT^fr ^ ^(% «^t snPt fv : f f t afa *farrf»w ^snprof % f«wffar (ap) ^rf«T cf«rr sri’jft 3 ^rrw- w n ^ttT^: ^ n r^ f^ rar sf^nr ^ *fra*rr ^»t frq rN fw ^ r mr 7801. *rt |o *to fr w qnrfew : w t 5 t r ^ rr %; ffa ^ *?rnt q?t t*rr *3»t fa : (^ ) ^ srsrR ^ % («p) *ph n v m f f a iTR?lt fa n ®r t it h 3 ^ arq-JTi^r ^ | ; I; (»t) ^?R«rrTt/f^fw5wt9rrfe% (w) *rfc $r, [Shri R anabahadur Singh] of the villager*, whose area has been inundated i «far sftfaer w frn ? % has been in the nature of sand. So, not only have the villagers Jost their homes but also arPT$r^*rn their agricultural land which has been snsr t r * fc p ra r m t nur $fr 1 1 am w m ?r*rr % fa w r ^rpf f*rr ? f^-qr?rwrf ir$f t i % ^r?r f na [«ff yfo tT^c f%*rfr] arrer jpt wtr- ft i sri-arsTtq^ 3ft *nr TO g?r srt i t f a r *r^ rr sr^ |q 1,5ft |, ^ S tfa q 3FT ?ft ^nr^ft You are aware, Sir, that no State in our besides providing job opportunities for lakhs country is an exception to the vicissitude of and lakhs of people. The elusive concept of either floods or drought. Many States this national integration will become a reality. In year have been afflicted by ravaging floods. In fact, this scheme will open up vast avenue of the whole country nearly 13 crores of people opportunities in many fields of our activities. have been uprooted by the marauding floods. By undertaking this scheme, the unsavoury So far as our country is concerned, floods are water disputes like Cauvery water dispute will not a bolt from the blue ; it is a regular automatically disappear. Whatever may be the recurring feature every year. The annual loss hurdles and bottlenecks in implementing this from floods is about Rs. 100 crores. This year scheme, it must be taken up right now in the the total loss on account of floods is estimated interest of the nation as a whole. Even though to be Rs. 275 crores. The Joss of agricultural it may not be possible for us to go whole hog crops this year due to floods is unprecedented with this, at least we can make a beginning by in the history of our country. The only redeem taking it up in stages. For instance, 70% to ing feature in such a gloomy atmosphere is that 80% waters of Godavari and Krishna in South the Ministry of Irrigation and Power is headed go waste into the &ea. After linking these two by the woild-renowned and most experienced rivers, then we can extend our programme to Engineer, Dr. K. L. Rao. He if our only hope connecting Vada Pennai, Palaru, Then Pennai in finding a permanent solution to the per and Cauvery with Vaigai. In the absence of nicious floods. We appeal to him to give his such a link-up the waters of these rivers are serious consideration to the continuing problem not fully utilised. Then we can go to the next of catastrophic floods and to find an ever-lasting stage of connecting Narmada and Godavari solution. We hope that he does not identify and ultimately Ganges and Yamuna with himself with the like of Congressmen and Narmada. This kind of implementing this belie our expectations. We fervently believe gigantic scheme in stages will lead to sub that lie will exert his utmost in redeeming the stantial increase in agricultural production country from the scourge of floods. Many apart from yielding manifold side benefits. thousands of villages throughout the country The problem of floods and drought will vanish have been inundated by roaring flood waters in thin air. and lakhs and lakhs of our countrymen have lost their little thatched huts. The floods and Now, coming to the chronic drought pro drought take their toll side by side. Though blem in many States, I would like to make a we have been incessantly talking about the particular reference to such areas in Tamil flood and drought havoc all these twenty-four Nadu. There are areas in Ramanathapuram years, it is really a sad commentary on our District, in Madurai District—specially performance that we have not succeeded in Dindigul, Tirumangalam, Usilampatti and extricating ourselves from the disastrous floods Nilakkottai—in North Arcot District and also in Salem District, which are regular victims of and drought. chronic drought. No doubt, the State Govern ment of Tamil Nadu has been spending most Here, I would like to refer to the suggestion of its resources in alleviating the sufferings of the, which has been made many a time both inside people inhabiting these areas. I have speci and outside this House. This scheme, when fically referred to these areas because they are implemented, will absolve the Centre from the in need of succour from the Cent/e. I would sin being Committed in Cauvery. It is the appeal to the hon. Minister to extend central grand and magnificient scheme of linking the financial assistance for these drought-stricken swelling Ganges with the placid waters of areas. I am sure that my appeal in the Cauvery. If this scheme is implemented in genuine cause of common people in these areas right earnest, the parts of India now pillaged will meet with the sympathetic consideration of by floods will be made fit for plough and the the Minister. chronically drought affected areas will become fertile for cultivation.'- W^th this sSheme we Before I conclude, I would once again will be in a position to kill two birds with one refer to the imperative necessity for linking stone the twin spectres of floods and drought G a n g e s with Cauvery if we arc keen to save will be done with. When this scheme is taken the country from the savage grip of floods and up, thousands of engineers will get employment drought. 287 D isc .n . Flood and AUGUST 12, 1971 Drought in tiu O m i# *8$ SHRI CHINTAMANI PANIGRAHI: «ft w t (arrterw w ): arr SHRI ANANTRAO PATIL (Khed) : This tfvrrrfa «pr sfcr year nature seems determined to put this $t m*r»rr i country to a test. In some parts there are no rains, in other parts there have been heavy rains. This condition of drought and deluge *ft ftr^fk f*w (jftcfl-^rrt): anr* has the same efFect. In both eases ciops have »TRfjk w » r * *r*n?r been damaged. But the division is distinct. In the noi them part of the country, UP, Bihar, *p* # sft fa r ^rn?r w r *r^t Bengal, Orissa, some parts of Punjab and ?r$ttrr i Rajasthan, there are floods ; in south India, in Maharashtra, Mysore, Andhra and some snrrrfa *r(ftw : ^ HR^for ^rroft parts of Madras, there is drought. In Kerala there have been floods. The Ichariff crops *t ^ rr g fir ^ «rr* tht f w % have been lost or damaged. *r*S %fir?T?r 13, 14 3ft* 15 f w srt^r^r aft ?r$r fflr i ^ *r blr. I n the eastern district* of Maharashtra, rashtra Government. We are very grateful and where paddy is grown, the crops have been thankful to the Central Government and the lost this year and the western districts of Minister, but the time is running short. When Maharashtra including the district of the will the study team be sent, when will they Minister of State in the Ministry of Food and study and when will they submit the report, Agriculture, Shri Annasaheb P. Shinde— and what will happen to it? Already, Rs. 5 Ahmednagar, Sholapur, Poona and Nasik crores have been spent by the Maharashtra districts—have been worst affected. This year, Government, and it has been calculated that in many of the districts of Maharashtra, there the expenditure on famme works or relief was no rain. Famine conditions exist con works might exceed Rs. 12 crores to Rs. 15 tinuously for years together in some areas; crores. So, it is very necessary that funds there is a chronic famine condition. There is should be made available to the State Govern one taluka in the Nasik district which for the ment. It is not only the question of funds. last 100 years has remained famine-stricken. So, the calamity is a severe one. It has been It is also a question of materials and machi fourfold in Maharashtra. The crop* have nery, blasting machinery, binng machinery suffered. The agriculturists have no work to for digging wells and for providing drinking day. There are no operations on the farms. water. If these are available with the Central Agricultural labour has no work to do. So, Government, they should make them available they are to be provided with work and wages, to the State Government. so that they will be able to purchase foodgrains and subsist on them. As far as fodder and foodgrains are concer ned, for the procurement of fodder from other For the cattle also, there is no fodder ; be States, the Central Government should help cause of the failure of rains, there was no fodder our State. About foodgrains, we were happy for them available. The next greatest calamity to know that this country has become self- in Maharashtra is drinking water shortage. If sufficient in the matter of food and need not you do not receive rains in August, this month, depend on others. But I atn afraid what will I am afraid the rabi sowing will be very much happen next year because of the di ought and afFected, and in the months of April and May, famine and floods and scarcity of rain. We during summer, the people will suffer greatly. would have to meet the needs from abroad. So, the supply of drinking water, fodder and We do not know. Of course, the Food Cor provision of employment are a dire necessity. poration of India and the Central Government Already, the foodgrain prices are going up will supply food to the State Government every day. The State Government is trying its since they have got ample stock with them. level best to meet the situation. Varuna seems But about the prices, they should give us some to be displeased this year in Maharashtra. He relief, especially for the famine-stricken areas. may be demanding some pooja with tome heads of men and women, but the State Government and the people are determined I do not want to take more time of the not to lose a single life in Maharashtra. House. But I would only urge upon the* Minister, especially Dr. Rao, who is the Minis We have started famine works and the work ter in charge or irrigation and power, to on roads which arc being constructed. Per attend to our needs. He has mentioned some colation tanks and community wells are being short-term arrangement to solve the issue, but dug. Work which will give relief and which what about the long-term arrangement ? gives job and employment to the able-bodied What is the arrangement for irrigation, major, men and women in the rural areas who have minor and medium, in those districts which no work in the agricultural sector has to be are permanently famine-stricken, which come provided. But the resources or funds available under real shadow ? We have got irrigation with the State Government are very limited. only to the tune of 7 or 8 per cent in Mahara The other day, the Minister of Agriculture shtra. Even if you make all the water availa gu* an assurance in the other House that the ble, it will come to only 18 to 20 per cent. So, Centre will be tending out a team to Mahara in areas where there are no possibilities of shtra and that after the report is received, the major irrigation projects, minor and medium Government will give assistance to the Maha irrigation project! should be taken up and 291 Disc. ".F lood and AUGUST 12, 1971 Drought in th» County 292 [Shri Anant Rao Patil] they should be given priority and neceuary TOT t, ^ft qfarc **t«fft w ^wr 1?t funda. ?RS*tft % f^ r V&m *|f to r 5TT TO 16.00 hra. 1 1 I again request the hon. Minister of Agri arnsrarr? wfarrtift li^ft^rra'if culture to send a study tram as soon as possi ble and ask the Central Government who are ^ft *ff amft 1 cr2r*T, aflrc trying their level best and fighting the famine ?r*f?«rr vt ^ it, ^r?f *sft f^ r to the best of their ability. farr 1 1 anfrft if ^ft 150 v?t?^qir^t «rt xpto : %*?$* *rfte*r, fTOTf*ft I, 5Tff TT^X ^ r * I, 5* 5r5TC5nf?T5r ft f*f gscrftR- «rc*r i 1 1 arr^jft ^ ft Tf ? | | ? fm ro t wnr wz v? arRift 55R f5R% «trt£ snr "rtfsreft % ^ if arg* % fa*t ^rr*r, ^r?r, w®ft* aftr xtsnft sfrr imrifhT ^ v fr 1 srr? ^c*t f t srnnft v tf srsffsr * ft | 1 srft 9ft»r arrsr an^jft ^r% sft prr^ I , *r>ft % *^r arfN? str^t? ^t fsFS’ft f^T 5*T, «TT5ft VT FcrsrPT M if 3ft w&t ^? ? | 1 1 ^?t^ strt |5t ^ sffarft fa ft»ft, ?* m vr eft for ft m wmr % fmrvn % STT«T sprit ft, irfr* *Tf 5ft 22 if *f? f^ r ^ tf %&rfa*r arnsr frv ?rr^ arrtttaft? ^ *^t *f»t *i?ft 1 % v ft, »rfiTTB5, 3^? aft? srper tfsrrqfo * r f t^ , t a m ^ t a rg ^ r sfor, ^ 7^ 1* t, §rf%*irf5ft fS( ari^rt ^*r ^ r r i i wwn WTf «f?t fatftfw stt^ srer ^t % *w ^ rf ^rt f ^ r v r, wff arrf arrat, f^r^Rft | W 5r arrc *fo ff aft?rr «rfr f®RRT v m forr, *rf ^ *£t?r *$r ^ r , srsr *s t ^rrct zftsrct artoff ^ sr^3 ftm I 1965-66 »f '*$r «r*T^r, aw a* ^ arrrtft *n*?t*rr% ir*rr*^r w ^ 3T5#wff sift aF? f w arw eft jftarc arnfttf at qffer ar«rr$* stm ^ ^ »rf3rfT7f 5fr*cT 1 1 ?nft arr w*r aft % *F|r «rr f¥ ^an g^nftsr ft *raT ^ f f R e r ^ t Tsn f t T O ft | , %-arr $ t i Srtt m *r ^rr ?rfr, i m ^rcnftsr ? r^ ft | 3ft* mrr^rT^t «Pt ^t *nn | aft* arf w f r ff^n^r aft ^TJTtf?2RT ? r ^ 1 1 f*rrft f^KTargr ^Tcrr *rr, st q-rjft % aft* ^nrrrf % ^ q-foff Jf m z ^r ^ f % ^rnr n arRfrr srpftcr an T?t | i arrar arar fa if jtr t i f«P 3uq% ^ srra fa«ro sr ttt * ar^ror ft f, $rfr?r w st* qr sfrn^- ^r srw r srsrc t a r 1 Sf f* Vt< 3F%6rq *ff «f* * ||f a #?r SHRI K. RAMA KRISHNA REDDY W *f arnft, fa f r* i* snrersr apffr q-nft only that, even some other districts of Andhra farcr% ^ *r*rwr* tffcrr inert Pradesh like Vi/ag arc under drought. No t , aft* sf*rR $ arr% *re*r doubt in the early days of May some rains were there and so sowing has taken place with foRTO sftar 3ft* tft arfsr^r ^ srnft 1 1 regard to kharif crop and expecting more rains in future with the assistance of well water transplantation had been done. Then, to die w r m t w f a ^ arfsrer * ^r* utter disappointment of the farmers, there f ^ gsrnr frr ^ ctt g i *r*r garre | were no rains afterwards. The standing crops f a ^ t *rnft iftsfrTf 5T.nf ^rnr, 3ft* have withered and famine and drought condi tions prevail in that area. There is no water qws sfts arrnrr arr*r * t *rr* $aff [Sbri K. Ramakrishna Reddy] rice would be exported and famine conditions today have been forthcoming. Excepting the will continue to prevail in those areas. So, in Hirakud Dam in the earlier years, no other the end I would request the Minister of Agri major flood control scheme has been imple culture to give special attention to Telengana mented during the Second, Third and Fourth and Rayalaseeina aieai of Andhra Pradesh Plans. and do the needii.il in this connection. What happened to Tikerpada project, to Gania barrage scheme and to Bheemkund SHRI CHINTAMANI PANIGRAHI i Sir, project ? Has the State Government sent any for the last so many years I have had the such scheme for clearance. If so, that should privilege of participating in this debate on be cleared also. flood and drought whenever it comes every year. Just as we celcberate the diy of our Now, I want to touch only specific points independence, it has bccorac a ritual with us and I hope the Minister will look into them. to celebrate the day of mourning, usually in Last year, in 1970,, the hon. Minister told us the month of August, when the Parliament is there is going to be a revolving fund for flood in session and the country is in floods. control. I thought the fund i area now remains submerged in rain water. These arc the problems before the Govern SHRI P. K. DEO : Mr. Chairman, I have ment. There must be a comprehensive scheme carefully gone through the Statement of the at least for the coming five years. You phase Minister of Irrigation and Power which has out a programme of Rs. 400 crores or R<>. 500 placed on the Tabic of the House on the 3rd crorcs to prevent completely the floods in August, 1971. I am vitally concerned with Brahmaputra, Ganga, Mahanadi etc. Divert my States ; so, I have gone through the portion some water, if possible, from north India toCau- regarding Orissa and I And that the statement veri in South India, which is suffering from is an understatement. It has absolutely no drought. Wc have got enough of water to relevance to the reality becausc today I give to Shri Shivappa who is crying for water. verified from the Government of Orissa sour ces by telephone and would like to bring to I know, the Minister is seized of the matter your notice that since the 3rd July Mahanadi, and he must be taking into consideration all Baitarani, Subarnarekha and Budabalanga these things. At least fot Orissa I must plead have been in spate and the districts of Cuttack, before him. The Ministry has admitted that Balasore, Dhenkanal and Keonjhar are being the five States in India which are the most affected by floods. 4 lakhs acres of laud have affected by floods arc Bihar, Orissa, West been submerged and 6 lakhs of people have Bengal, Assam and Uttar Pradesh,The annual been affected. 1,000 houses have already col loss caused by floods sometimes comes to Rs. 15 lapsed and many are about to collapse. 11 crores or Rs. 16 crores. It cannot be conti human lives have been lost and many more nued like this. At least when we come here cattlte. There have been breaches on the flood for the next session there must be a plan or protection embankments at Panikoili on the scheme for the coming 8 or 10 {ears so that Brahmani, Rambapur on the Mahanadi and we can see that more and more areas are Ringbandh in the Aul area. brought under flood control schemes and there it no drought and flood at least in another In this regard I would also like to point period of 7 or 8 yean. out the magnitude of the problem to far at the 299 Disc. re. Flood m i AUGUST: 12,1971 Drought in tht Counity 300 [Shri P. K. Deo] Sabarnarckha it concerned It is a border astrology and moon-shine. We hope, by next river between West Bengal and Orissa in the year, we will become self-reliant so far at food upper reaches but in the lower reaches it enters is concerned. We will not have to depend on into the State of Orissa. PL-480 Fund. But the large influx of refugees and the flood situation have completely upset Now, there has been a joint endeavour bet the economy of the country. Due considera ween the West Bengal and Orissa Governments tion should be given to this aspect also. to provide flood protection embankment in the upper reaches on both side of the river. But sft : *nri snr rfspr % i jfftoT srr? % sw rt if 16.33 h ra . «=TR3nn^, spiffs eft [S h r i R. D . B h a n d a rk in the Chair.] arr^irr, srfro jftft ft, [Shri P . Venkatasubbaiah] with the sentiments expressed by my hon. Andhra Pradesh, two irrigation and one power friend the DMK Member. project. They are : The Nagarjunasagar pro ject, Podiampad project and Srisailam Hydro He mentioned about the linking of the Cau- electric project. Government should take very with the Ganga. That was a project action immediately and provide additional envisaged long time back by Sir C. P. Rama* funds, even if they are outside the Plan, to see awami Ayyar and Sir Henry Cotton. My hon. that they are completed in time. It will afford friend Mr. Shyamnandan Misra, I hope, will a permanent relief to the famine-affected be very happy to divert some water of the areas. Ganga from Patna to Cauvery. This will not only help us to have real integration, but also Also, Government should think in terms of supply water to the most wanted areas, and constituting a Famine-affected Areas Develop as I have already stated in my previous speech, ment Board as in the case of desert develop that will also be a sort of job-organisation pro ments. Government has already identified the gramme, thousand* and lakhs of technicians will backward areas and famine affected areas in be involved in this and I hope the hon. Minis* our country. Special attention must be given ter will take up this project. I am glad that to these areas. That can only be made by the Planning Commission has approved this constituting a statutory body to envisage long scheme. I hope that the survey and the other term plan, so as to see that steps are taken to preliminary work will be started almost eradicate famine. Immediately. In areas like Rayalaseema and Telengana Coming to the drought affected areas, I and the coastal districts, there must be a sort would only say that we have requested the of long-term plan to see that underground Prime Minister and I am also making this water is explored and maHe available to the request on the floor of the House to the hon. agriculturists. We should see that large-scale Minister, that an ad-hoc financial assistance of unemployment is not to take place. If there is Rs. 10 crores must be made available to the drought, there is large-scale unemployment. Government of Andhra Pradesh to carry on Lakhs of agricultural labourers, marginal far the relief measures There is scarcity of fodder. mers etc. will be thrown out of employment. There is scarcity of drinking water. Transplan Some work has to be provided to them so that tation has not taken place. I do not know there may not be any sort of unrest and during what is going to happen to the overall food scarcity more than a crore of population gets production in our country. Another important affected by this natural calamity of drought, in factor is about exploration of under-ground Andhra. water. All these factors must be taken into conside In the areas of Rayalaseema rainfall is scan* ration. I also plead with the Central Govern ty, it is only 15 inches to 20 inches. There are ment that they must depute a team immedia vast potentialities for the exploration of under tely to assess the situation there. I am told ground water. Government should provide that the Andhra Pradesh Government have necessary machineries like rigs to go into ac already sent a detailed report to the Central tion immediately, to see and take advantage of Government. I would only request the hon. the situation, and to provide this long-term Minister of Agriculture to see that the Central measure of digging wells by rigs, provide fod team is deputed immediately, and pending the der banks and also open fair price shops. overall assessment and the assistance that has to About this my hon. friend, speaking on the be given to the State, as I had requested earlier, situ&tion in Maharashtra, has already explain a sum of Rs. 10 crores relief may be given to ed. So I need not go into it in detail. the Andhra Pradesh Government. I would once again request Dr. It. L. Rao and Shri F. A. There is another factor which I would like Ahmed to put their heads together and see that to bring to the notice of the hon. Minister, a long-term plan is evolved so that these famine* There are some irrigation and power projects affected areas are well-protected and taken which are lagging behind for want of financial proper care of so that they will not be subject assistance, here are three major projects in to recurring famine. m Disc. re. Flood and SRAVANA 21, 1893 (SAKA) Drought in the Country 306 «ft fiw faprcnr) : snmfer ^ 5? 3ft Vfer f 35 | « N w an% ^ % wi3*te?r efa Sr arrerr jr aft* ^ *f «r *rreft artt ^ trofeter f t % arrsr arrft ffo rcr *r f*rnnr snftr spfN&t t o t t 1 $sfti?T ftrcn?r srnrsrr f*rft «br qft ft *rer w f, farfK % *rm ft «rtft ftrzrr arnr ^ «rr$ aft^ ^rr ^t*ff % «nr i arRTrc-sRTR vt arrer *rfr qr: eft W ft? «R % ViT ^T% fait 300 JfRtf 8PR 3ttt srif, afh: ar*r?TT & ar^^er ft»ft fv vm ' m * wwiftwf *t ^ eft arr* ^ rr 5?ft*ff qftiraw^f^t 1 M faffTq?trrfer | ft? &r $ *ftar 45 % 48 srffaRT % farfp: m ix * % 68 *Rt? w* *ift man srwvft % i?q % f*rret vrz, nr*r ^t ft 1 %f^r If ?m?r Tf*r ^rrjprr srfRTcrr cr«rr t t ^ t % f?nj *nft t i ft> 100 vftf sq% *nr $f firffT m qrm^r ^rr *r$r % sftr WTf % ?ibr% 5ft ^TRT wk an% t , Soffit fafn: TOnr *tft ^enft error | % eft *rr?r*r ft *fr | fNr *rf * m wf *8R ?^ ®r ^r% 1 srfr ew? t ft *nrr & ? *re?r *Pt$ ^^rrsr ffcrr m *n£f Tfr f, ^fn:^f ^ if-^ct? wt^r arrar ftorr ? anr ^Eft-forfer f^rrf ^ *ft «rrf ^r^Rerf...... I» f*r eft tfcsft frsrer 3f arr <# ? % f*r «ft *?5fo ftwrtt: 2 qrds f i q?f *rc% | “3»r w^p wr «rft *rcft, * «ft w w w fa«r: feramft 3ft vf8r ar^gr ft ^ *Rrerr” $35 ^rr ft | ftr aft | » 217 srrfyrfirej f&rvRr ^ 4 ...... t^r | farcif ^ w r arr? sift M t- flwwfti **ftaw i arrq ar^; qqrf ftvr m i | ; arr’PRr nfrftrff qft m n fft ? eft anTPrer 1 1 g*^ft * k s % f ^ arrar 3rr?t 3ft firfrcSf #ft romwr ftw: wfft? ft n (l |» ^ ^ to ff, arcftfr ftr%|3ft ffrfarer v* ^t q»«T5r sre* f f 1 ^ mr ft *$f qrct |1 f^ersrw f*r arq^ qfi % ^ ^ 1 tft Vo uto ffarrft (S’few r): sfrq* 3R er^r #*r^r w w^rnr * ft 3ft^ arrfr af*$ fto r f t * f t ^rfcT 1 1 *r, q^rrar ?r ^ncr ^ t , ^*rr^ *Pt5ft f*rr^ *rfr arr^t w & arr^r 1 1 anft gtrw^ fw f w : svrqfer tft, ^ ?t ^?rr vfr wr—^ ^ arr^ft »r*r & for $srr s # ss* $ *Ff r «rr ft? srwrc ?ft ft*t tft arnrfiwf ^ *r^ W 14 eft a m wnrf^Rr sq % srrr % arrant ^«T fift 1 1 ^rfeft | eft t$q» w s z *ffr [ «ft ftr*r ] % s r f arr anft w r it | ff^fcTFT % *lf? 3JT7 fTf VK ffRT^q afhcapfttfr *i-w# «w pt , nfttpr am prr^t^ft srmft I 3 8 ^ t? ^ ? r vpft w fa * &ntm: f*r 3TRffa?r % ar^rw ^ v*r 250 V T tfwft w ?» ^ W w«rr wrff* i z m *rfl 5ft aft* fawr & # ^ T fr g if 3 t r ^ f t arrS^r^ qrarfora *pft *rftor % fanTR §■ *fcff H^TFrrq1 s*n?r Jr ^t t *ft st*r fosrr 11 fin p fcsrcr* srfr % «if sr??rw Tfr f 250 tftff'Pt f€J *JfcT eft fotft fWt, fS5 *frrt? ^ f?r% r^ ' i ?Rr*fontft f*P?ft ftft, «Ftf 5t€ ^ f t »rrf t ^ (?fr aft* ^ ft | fsrcr 7*, # ^rrfcrr ?rff—srarrc rot 5ft ?pt ^ft t —sfnmr f sftoI1 sft* ferr srrar i fafr* ^rr r^r *?**— tftfafr* % wttf tfr fs; *r?re es^rf fa * sft ^r «ft^er | , ft «ft w iw % 100 qrft? ^ 3r [ Sh ri Lfladhar Kotoki ] damage caused to the people is tremendous, because the people are taken unawares. There irwfV * tft arft * m x ^rr t ft? srrsr fore, this aspect of the floods due to breaches *rr aror qr qf * srr itt the embankments has also to be looked T$r t » ^ 1967 5ft into. v m «rr w fa x t o r t I know you woutd like me to conclude. I arwr farr $ 1 f*rrft Tsft qfft #?r % will conclude by urging the Minister to take into consideration another aspect of floods. grfgrgre $ arrf Srta arf*nrf*r m q?t p feft ifs *r 1 1 afte f^^TR Ir ^ f q ^ i fr *?r g*T t *r*tr am tftffcwr f?ff 5Tfif % % «rtr ^ vr f a f a 3ft 3TR t a if 5T«TPT W^ftT % Sfe f^JTT 5W ifft % ter vift $taft 1 arrcr ^ 1 1 ?rt w f rr *r ^ 6 ' #r | bAt * srm*r fc f r 2 5 m tft & an% *r*ft srrsr 5pcr sfftw * m x % % *j*m Jf m m t 11 ^ r ?t^fr **w?r t o w t f t w t o r t v t ^ t f i r ^ f rO' 3tt^ mx arr% f f c f r 1 tffr yfawraff %^RTf?rr | far I f 5TT ^ 1% afh % r writ 1 Jrwf *?t fRf?r m i t «ftfa w r tr? *ft * $ %far m w m t ari% fm r $ •ft i «rcsre** ?nr i®rr ^t*ft \ «nrr ^ f r y % % * m x |i x t t m P *5$*r ^fNnar | > a n f t ^ «rcaft SIS Dise.rt.Ftotdmd SRAVANA 21, IBM (SAKA) Drought in the Country 314 JTTtf WTWT % *f gfr 4 I fyJT *e rw *ra r | ft? fs j *r*ff % fR% «R «R ^r^rft «|ft aq-^qr qRfft ssrraft it srrsff farqfr < r 3r fa w 3 ftc ^rf^r, arowr fH t fa* arg* ^ q f f a m ? % fa* fTfar* ^ 5JT8TPTT f H t ^ f f f ^ I ments and absence of embankments... w r ^ ^ r f W % fa * f w Most of the damage that occurred this year « r a w f t* t *rrffC[ i f ^ ^ would have been prevented if the banks had existed/’ qhfr sft qft fcr wr«w«rrv^ft w if^r ^ **r t *rft % Wr ftr^ 5? So, he concedes that basically damage to the tune of Rs. 250 crores was caused because 35 ^ arffft ^rff$ I of lack of embankments or embankments which were weak or had not been properly put up. • n ifr *8* * fW t o W 5TWR’ m vrwr arwrifaF far# I would submit this is not the only instance ^ a r^ f n#MWr»irc?r where the inefficiency of the State Department and the Central Department has been clearly *Nrf fR 5ft«ff H?t f«rt| %m * shown. There are a few other places where WVWI the inefficiency is much mow. 315 Disc. r«. Flood and AUGUST 12,1971 Drought in the Cowtry 316 [ Shri Vikram Chand Mahajan ] In my constituency a dam is being built It is mentioned in the statement “hon. which is known as Pong dam. About Rs. 300 Membets are aware that there is no method of crores are being spent on this dam. They knew preventing and controlling heavy downpour". that a particular quantum of water would be It is true that water is collected by heavy parting through that place in the floods. They downpour. If you do not kill mosquitos there built five tunnels to take out that water, bUt would be malaria. If you do not kill rats there they are not sufficient to take out even the would be plague. If you do not kill cholera flood water. They knew very well that floods germs there would be cholera epidemic. Simi come every year. This is not the first time that larly, because of rain water will accumulate. floods arc coming in that region. They are By human effort we have to divert the waters. there for centuries and they know it. Since You have to build proper embankments, you they knew it they could have planned the have to punish those officers who are corrupt tunnels in such a way that the tunnels would and blacklist those contractors who use sand take the flood waters in their entirety. But instead of cement. You have to take positive they did not. Even though they have spent and firm action instead of merely lepeating crores of rupees on that project, they did not that floods are created by nature. into account the water which would be collectcd during the floods. The result was Take the case of the Brahmaputra Flood that during this season the tunnel could not Control Board and the officials m charge of take the entire water collected there and so that. We have so far spent Rs. 32 crores on hundreds of families were put to trouble and that. Just make an enquiry of the assets of the of houses were swept away. What engineers and officers of the Brahmaputra was the compensation given to them ? One Control Board before they took up their hundred rupees per family. Their houses have present assignments and now. Kindly also been swept off, the grains which they had check up the assets of those who have come stored had been washed away and they were back from that place. You will find out of given only Rs. 100. Even that has been given these Rs. 32 crores where the money has gone. only in some villages and not all. I will later I want to ask a few questions from the hon. give the Minister the names of the villages Minister. First, will you hold an enquiry where this lias not been given. against the contractors who built these em bankments which have been destroyed due to these floods ? Second, will you hold enquiries There is another place 20 miles away from against the engineers or officers who are Pathankot where the railways have built a reponsible for building railway line and roads line. Every year the water collects there which block the natural drainage and cause because the flow of flood water is stopped floods ? Third, will you first spend money on by the railway line. Hundreds of people controlling the floods in the northern zone of that region have represented to both before taking up the grandiese plan of connect Railway and Irrigation Ministry to have a ing Ganges with Cauveri—that would be an bigger channel through which the entire flood other Mohammad Tughlak plan. Fourth, have water could pass so that the lands are not yon tried to desilt any river in India, our., destroyed. The answer given by the depart Ganges, etc. so that their beds which have ment earlier was that they originally intended come up go down ? Fifth, will you hold an to develop this region as a fishery pond so that enquiry against the officers who planned the you can make money out of fish. But they tunnds of Pong Dam and could not foresee seem to forget that thousands of acres of land that in floods the houses would be submerged which are water logged and ruined by floods and punish the responsible officers. have also to be taken into consideration. #The entire floods could have been pi evented if they v* ***** (5$rr) : had dug a bigger channel across the railway- line. This year also thousands of a acres of # I n w r arnrrfr $ far land have been submerged because of this. acre# Even though I have repeatedly urged the Agriculture and Railway Ministry to attend f w i i W m m t f o m to this, they have not paid heed to my request.. 317 D ise.r0.F U oi and SRAVANA 21, 1893 (SAJCA) Drought in tfo Country 318 *r? f f*r anrf % *fr^r ^T5rar«r fa * arr s * * t a fk *rpft awr arr t f a n f t arr?f * t an* Sr f«RT arr 1 1 * ^ fc rr f w a fk ^ srr to § i *r?f % a m wrr?r ^ i ipr^t $rfgvl «r^cT yit fr f* srsnft qiareft 1 1 fSfn: *ft unfhRrr % ^tt^t ^t$ grrnr ^arwrcr% ar^ *^ arq* ^?rr^ anft fto* % fa* »i* 11 «^r * arr? arr *t $ | , % ar^rc arr? f3R w raff * srf^rspf «rr? arrcfV s?r% arr »rf 1 1 ^ wr^* * ^ t f ? r ^ fr|lf | ^Roff «pt 'Tfrr srimrr ^rnrr *rr%* fa srrf f a Tarrf^rq-^ fofarspr % w s x , ^t?rr * fag% \ * r f arrcft 11 ifctft sr?r ?ft | , fa ^t ?ft?r ?ft ^rrwt * «r^ft arrr ^r? arrf | W * t 3PT5T t , afr a n # 1 1 w r *r * r * tfrf jftsrcr awrf ar^rrirr c r ^ ^ f t q^r snrr i x m | m f a q |r f f cr^ s m i* srr a r k ^cr^fr | f a ar^ ?«r«Pt ^ r 9ft 5f* 1 ^ 1 S^fT* 5PT2T * SfjTT, safft ^ t arnr^t ?r|r ^ Tsrr *?t 's r n j» w sff ^r?r *i£f ^ r t wr\ m wrf^T i arfaf? * arf** *«r spr* ^rf|* i «irmf?i »r^ w : ffowft ^r «ng Tfft trap ^ m r | srf?f *rt arr* % T fa * I? & v r i ^ ^ * far# ftft % «fif j w w * v a p rm : * § *FZX arrcft | ark T ^ft 1 1 ^7Tcft I I *sr% f* sm5t *rnr ft ff^r 11 arrwt ^ fa$r«r i ^ ftt arcrift f>ft p i srar ^ >rr * w^rarerr fr|t ^ t »rf i * ?ant *$t stiw zx crr'ft «fWf % 3 f*t «rff arr ^ f^rerr | *$t f*T5TT I ^"^f* ^ *>fT f a f afk ^sr «prt«r ^r arr? ^ arrcfr \ ?rrwr«r £ $ >ft ^ x ?r^crr f ^sfffa ^ t ^ m r % ^ t f tffPTST W t 1 1 aw & t9 AUG tlSf 12, l»7i brought in tk$ Qnmby 326 [ sfT f i m TOTW ] farfaifrewto* % sfrff *?r *nSt SHRt N. SHIVAPPA (ttawan): Mr. Chairsnaii, at the very outset I wish to point tffrtRTT i arrar tft t o $ arwr« out to the concerned ministers at the Centre % m * R *S? | | fcT J5T * x 1 1 that the State of Mysore is under President1* # r ^ $ i rule and there is no popular gow rpment there. So, if any grievance or difficulty of the people ^ xpct ^ % t o * arr srr t | ? i ?rrtf of Mysore is to be redresied, it can be done * r ^ srat»r ^ ^ 1 1 t o j by the Central Government alone and not by ssrcvrc a fk aft* rrwr xxwx tit anybody else. Our Irrigation Minister, Agri culture Minister and even the Industries aftr % ift ar^t * t f fffTW ?r$f fosft 11 Minister will certainly bear it in their minds ^ gs* !m«r am t fr OrxWt ^rt % not in the interest of my constituency but in *for *rr arrt; g1 w faq to «hr vt w rr the interest at least of about three crores of people of Mysore State. q?t m | , srnfsr ®pt * t srr T ft 11 I cannot describe the unfortunate condition *ff sfr fa ro farr t *rwr ^ aft* of the people of Mysore who are now in the s3rR?t 9fPTrTT *R? I midst of drought and famine for the last six to seven years continuously. Famine has become srn* t o $r srtff % «ro ar^ra *ri% our first and continuous enemy. We are so % fat* ?r$r f i TO«tft m *rsreft *rf 11 unfortunate that we have to surrender to him. There is no other alternative. It is our biggest f f w f f ?wr ^ »r*ta sftorf *?t srfafarr enemy. It is a bigger enemy than anybody ?nss ft »r£ ? i TO^t anr«raft % * t f else. t o ?r$r fasft 1 1 1 5TT«f5TT spreri g f r The geographical condition of India, parti arnr *re^ *^1% *Pt wwwr ^ i cularly of the Deccan plateau, is such that on one side there are the Eastern Ghats, on the %tm fa% *f ^ss »TfT ?ft arrest other side there are the Western Ghats and in 5TOR srxr*r f | i $ fr * the midst of it is the Deccan Plateau with great ups and downs and with no water, no arp3r *Ptf ^r«ft»T * f f f t * fr 11 ?Tftf food, no irrigation facilities and no man to «rifft m i % ^TRrr § aftc * ff m vm ssr feed perhaps. We have not been able to put our grievances properly and so we have be * * o t t o t ( i §*rt?t # t w *m'r * jt * r come a subject of mockery. Our people have % arfarorcr *«? tft «rt i ^ff^r not got the beneSts of socialism in these 20 56 vfT f r $ *ftar ^ t frra v r $r* years nor have they got the mercy either of the Central Government or of the State ^ 1 * TO*t to fim %vt i i * *rrf?rr g Government* f r 5$r I app eal to the Central Government that they taken "district” as a package for them. How must do something to alleviate the sufferings can a district be taken as a package ? Supposing of the people there. in a district 5-6 taluks are suffering from drought, what will be the fate of those people ? Every year, we are wasting crores of rupees If the relief or the improvememt in industry, on famine relief or flood relief operations. in irrigation and in other things, if general This thing has been expressed by many hon. conditions are to be laid down, it cannot be Members of the House. It is high time for the a district package. If at all 52 districts in the Government at the Centre to think of having whole of India are selected for improvement, a permanent measure. With a dynamic per it cannot be a district-like package. It should sonality of Dr. K. L. Rao, with the coordinated be a taluk or it should be even a smaller part effort of the Central Government, something as a package and they should have an rye on positive and permanent should be done. The the difficulties of the people They should Central Government should chalk out a suggest it to the Government or must take a permanent programme, a permanent measure, very clear view about it and see that it is to solve the problem of the 75 per cent of the recommended to the Government failing rural people who are real masters behind us which nothing can be improved in the back- and to whom we have committed ourselves ward areas and our people will not tolerate with our policies and programmes and to this kind of thing. whom we have assured that by means of socia list approach, we will improve their conditions. If you really want to improve their conditions, There are so many projects which have if you really have a mind to improve their been proposed to the Central Government and conditions, if that is our aim, we will have to they are pending for sanction. It is hi| We have wasted so many thousands of firarr if f i $*r crores of rupees when we started an adventure STffr SrfoiTI In industry and all that. What after all is SrfiFT ^r % sflr frfr ^ w m standing in our way to start this wonderful thing ? We have got all the material resources ; 4 i ^ fcr ar§?r ss r 11 f 5 we have got all the water raw material to be sTRff *r arr? *r aari# t I ^ SB supplied to different areas. This is to be taken sri^f 3r *r awr# t % 1 Srfoff up in the State of Mysore. Trsrerr* ^rr str t ^ The hon. Minister has already assured on 3fte yi? % 5r?*r 'rscn 1 1 *r$ q?rr the floor of the House that non-schedultd fT artf-for 5T 4 1 rivers will be cleared and the money will be given. It is high time tbat they are cleared. *Ft arnt 3T5PT OTCTtf I arte *HW«r arTjft srawrif 4 1 One more thing I will point out. The *PT*?rT3ff *FT fPHTTT ScR! [ *ft ftRTCTO f%f ] *!3TC«rR aFT ^ arg5T sfa fipffT ^rspFT ^tt arsgjr ^rnr fast 11 %fsp?r Sr snnto Tprr 11 *fT tft arraret W ^npar^r t fsr^ft ^r t o w r f^ r a r p ^ & w f f a ®rft q r *f f*rft to; ^ 3 tt aft arraf 11 w to 3ft^r% f^ ^ t % $*scnrer «N r *r ^ r 3r *nr % t o t apni srHrm ^ t % to 1?^ ^ r *fwrft $* 7*100 S25 Disc. re. Flood and SRAVANA 21, 1893 (SAKA) Drought in the Country 326 ^ a rfa s Pr 11 ?*r % interim report. Unless we take a decision to arsrrarf a fk arrfir $ sre ^ control the floods, year after year we will be seeing things like this. As there is a National fo rfa 1 1 w tm *rr % farr, Grid for Electricity, there should be a National % fatr ST# f I Control of the Dams; all the rivers should be interconnected. Therefore I ask: Why cannot % m \ strt 85 wrd? ^r 3r>^ -g m z the Government take up this problem and try ftor 11 ^fr * ^ afk *% aft^r?: to solve this oncc and for all ? zxrn *rr $m w* f^r 11 tr*r In Orissa the ravages of floods have been #5r^5r jfcSrfa# ^ jfhr *R?r % 0=rq, very much. 11 people have lost lives ; I have t^f> Tpsfta arwr ^r, vrtrs*: got a report here which I got only one hour ago from the Orissa Government. The rivers 3TTR *Pr a r c «rr, v r «rr in spate are Mahanadi, Baitarani, Sabarna- *p> ^ ^ rekha and Budabalanga. They are in spate «*r frsrr 1 1 f'T K q ft# srrerf almost continuously. Apart from loss of 11 hu man lives, many cattle are reported to have ^iferr ^farcr been lost. A large number of einbankmnents ^ f r *rrf$q for^r# fp iri^r tfr ^ have been breached in different parts of the srptfr % if arrJr arr g% aft^c State. The important once are (1) Painkuti on Bramhani (2) Rambapur on Mahanadi apwr tow ^ i ??$r *r«rf o t (Cuttack) and (3) Ringbandh in Aul area. f JTiflPrk ^ ^fr % *g There is, I understand, a National Commis 1 bring to bis notice the concern that this sion on Irrigation. They have not given their plan should be put through immediately. If 327 Dire. re. Flood and AUGUST 12, 1971 Drought in the Country 328 [ Shri S. S. Mohapatra ] it is not put through, I understand that there ^^TTSTf aft* ^ 3TS(% will be a satyagraha campaign in Orissa and West Bengal area against this embankment aft* f f F ^ a ^ r % 3;% plan. ^ ?r*f g?rrf*r* g 1 arrfcsrrarc fai% % 73 fsrr* ^ % fiTJr¥q% TT^ ift traps Simultaneously, I would also like to draw the attention of hon. Minister to the Bhim- ^ f f 1 8 t r ^ kund project which is going to control the JF.5T ?TTf yrff?n: ff^ rfr floods on the Baitarant river. ’T^NFfl' aft* Sf^fr 3ft* T ^ f I am bringing all these things to the notice f^f^r ^ ^ 1 1 ^ of the hon. Minister so that he may take im 3 q-w tr?Tf % fak irs* 60 ^srr* mediate steps. I hope he will also visit the flood-affected areas of Orissa. That has been TTflf *nr «t* 3t r r | :— ^rr* ^ ^tw crf^ $ fo JTirrrisj * n w T ^r v%r H f*rSt*rrcr fo crmf^sr ?r *rd*t %f^r m * f t sr.tnr f*r 3 * *r> 5r t ii «r^r o ^fw^r (* tp jt) . ? r ^ r# r tht *r r?r t, ¥%?r 3r f^fr vft *r?te®r, sm* ^ ^r $*rfar I f* ar^ ^ ^?r ?t WT %, 5Rff% *TT5T «Fs?t Tq-rar arrfrsT sftft %, ^»T% TT’T 3RI3T * g \ |, imTT ^t ^rm ^rrf^T «rt?fr £ 3t V ^ f ^ f ^ r ?fr ?ret ^jfr t, «n*ft *rgV I f«fr »t t % ^r i?T«rr aw ?flcfr i f?r *t ft ?fr tt*rr ?rt $3ri 1 1 ^ ttt T*T % %% ^TT *TqT I I 5r^?r, fsrsrr %^r % m m *r^rr g t arr *r ^r t*- ^j ?t % W wi »t T?rr 11 [ * fT tfo ] tffa * Tsrr m ra w ^ JTTTCTOr % fRTT* w **«*$ MR. CHAIRMAN: Before I call upon the next Member, kindly listen. The Chair will wft t, ^ sftSR^r call upon the Minister to reply at 6.20. Then, f , gfiw a n ^r 5ft% ^ f 3ft?: ^ i f Shri F. A. Ahmed will ipeak for 10 minutes. sft^ T 3PT* f I TO 517*% f *Rrer- So, the debate will continue up to 7 O’ clock. m w j m tTfcxrr ttfrqr |, actf ^rf There are a number of names in the list. ^twi*t *$r f. fa^r f, v\ There is a large number. But everybody will get time provided everybody confines himself I?* ft* 3ft *ta # * ttt f , S rfa * qrcftanft * f f f , t o ^ f* * * r %*r #* *rr^f, q-f fasr-pr srrf^ srrcr | % f^rcr *ff |, iywqt^ *ft 1 1 # f a srra ^ w k $ %0t %\ *nf?rr g f a spifafasr % 3 R ?rV I ?fr arr? * r arr*r % i fa* tfrifvr *w-$rc f, ^* to **t r zrf ^2rr ftarr | f a v s T O t o h t sroarrar =qr^r g fr ar*TT ^r% 3rfT?t «rr«ft «pt «p^t?r frzrr t o I, 3n?rr, ?fr friq^r vws ^t «rr 1 ?R7) 3TC/SR ^T^TSTO *trt ^rrf^r ^ ft 3r^?r fafa^ m% x srfr »nt « r.. aftr ^ Jrsr# ^ * r srrc-'frfeir $*rft jtrt—^ftrfr sh ^ srt *rraft 5rarr?r 1 W ^ % sttot tot 11 sh^r: «ft 3rqt^^iTR . ^rft eft sr?r $rfr?r fT ^ ^ jr ^1% f T tf ^cfstnt fr?t 11 ^rrr^r-^TT'?: *t% ^ft ^ fsr^ir ^ tt% ^ ^ ? r 5frgr ipnr spftfr 6-7-8 ere? *r S*fr f«T% 3?tf 5 cfarfr TPT—W m 5* 5ft 1?'?T% t* «rt 3W ^?*T T*f : t arr^ ^ tjtt) *r 15-10 *T arrsr pt^ *PTTT ^ft eP % Sfftf &*T ?T?t «ft g^«w w*ft3[f^Trfr • ^ ?t>jt ssi^r tft I, angr % *mfr p j ?ft*T ^ ^r?r t 1 TT^rT fa*r *r% 1 sft w arm «rr # ^«Ft ^ rc r t*t srer?r *pft *Ft ?ft ft «ft, * SHRI S. M. BANERJEE (Kanpur) : This 17.52 h tn morning I requested the Government to bring a Resolution demanding the release of Sheikh STATEMENT RE : REPORTED APPEAR- Mujibur Rchman. I know that it is not possi ANCE OF ATTORNEY-GENERAL IN SUP ble to do this at the fag end, but I would like REME COURT ON BEHALF OF MYSORE to get some assurance from the hon. Minister IN CAUVERY WATERS DISPUTE Shri Raj Bahadur that the Government will do its best. I only request you to ask him to THE MINISTER OF LAW AND JUS say something. TICE (SHRI H. R. GOKHALE): I was informed that a question was raised in the THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY morning whether the Attorney General of AFFAIRS, AND SHIPPING AND TRANS India appeared for the State of Myrore in the PORT (SHRI RAJBAHDUR) : The Prime suit which has been filed by the Government Minister may come at about 6.30. At that of Tamil Nadu in respect of the Cauvery time she might say something if you put this water* dispute in the Supereme Court. It was question. also how the Attorney General could be authorised to appear for the State of Mysore. SHRI DHARAMRAO AFZALPURKAR I want to make it dear that as a matter of (Gulbarga) : The Governor of Mysore has fact the Attorney General did not appear got the right to request the Government of for the State of Mysore. The Attorney Gene India to permit the Attorney General to appear ral appeared for the Union of India. It is no for Mysore. doubt true that the Governor of Mysore reques ted me to allow the Attorney General to appear for Mysore, and two officers, the Advocate 17.57 hour* General and the Law Secretary of the Mysore Government, had come here to meet me for DISSCUSSION R E : FLOOD AND requesting me to allow the Attorney General DROUGHT SITUATION IN THE to appear for the State of Mysore, but I had COUNTRY—Con/rf. made it clear that in a dispute like this the 'U n io n Government could not align itself with w i h Ri aft, anyone of the two parties and that I was not in STPT I a position to comply with their request. In fact the Attorney General did not appear for My sore. « r r w s t a i f m r SHRI SEZHIYAN (Kumbakonam): What 7-8 % fair ^ made Mr. Viswanathan raise the question was a press report that the Governor of Mysore $**rr % s ftt s rk $ qsrs bad stated that he had asked the Attorney Q sr% ? General of India to appear for Mysore. Nov that has been contradicted. SHRI H. R. GOKHALE: The Governor anft farfcT w x v m of Mysore did request me to permit the Attor s v m ark srpf fasflf % 337 Disc. r«. Flood and SRAVANA 21, 1893 (SAKA) Drought in the Country 338 Sr tffeRr W t ?rrfa SHRI K. BASAPPA (Chitradurga): Sir, Mysore is facing the worst misfortune of wide* «t arr% ? spread famine due to drought. Out of the 19 districts, 16 are under drought. Out of cfcr^t ^rrar | f a sr^r these 16, six are chronically affected, namely, q r gjqr % f^r^ff % 3 ^ft»r «Ft 3n?K ‘s r r t =*rf!& ?rrfa fcqr to t 1 1 q f «rf?r ^»r t ?*r q-7: other projects under the consideration of the Government of India like the Yagachi project ?fr sqr* ^ r r ^rrfksr i etc. If these are done, it will go a long way to help the scarcity affected areas of Belgaun, 3t t ^ if # Tjprr, 3 *rr fa to t ^ fr Bijapur, Gulburga and Raichur Districts. sft % ?T^T | : *ft srfer (sfan*r fc**rr): P re fe r fR% *trt fa cmr'pr ?r *rdir ^rf^T, if 3TPT% £RT ^T ^ft qff ^RT ft srtfit ?* 3^T cr^FT i sRTJTr =srrfTr g fa fq # r fc^ft ir f 7& f t z % v m - *nn«Tfa * £ * * : *t fw^rriE v^St i f i n | t ^ t 3rM jftw farr afhc 339 Disc. n . Flood and AUGUST 12,1971 Drought in th$ Comity 340 t ¥? fm z § sft^FTT s*Tf5(T being carried out by the Poona Centre of the India Meteorological Department under the f i anft s f ^ n ir arta r a t if vrtt? t qppft qft arrar | Then I come to irrigation. There is one project called Thammileru project in West 3tt*?r ^ ^ ?ft Godavari district which is flood-control pro 3FT3prtTT^^r 3f a arsftw s vivft?fhr ject. Last year the Government of India 3f Tft |,3fk»T%-*i% ct^f ir qrrsft sanctioned Rs. 2 crorses for this project. Un fortunately, Andhra Predesh Government >r t fsrr 1 1 fessft % arrer-*mr f f t have no money with them to complete the fT^TcT | fa nfa 3rk *V f f t construction of the project. Will the Govern fTCHT t 3ftT??nT trftqw if eft faqrfffargq ment of India provide adequate funds to complete this project as per plans ! ^ ^rflTT 11 q f l n w if x w ( a m ) : g n m fa tprgr^cft fessft ^ f* i m arcs 3ft, * *rfr^teP5r % arreft g i ir*r f ^ r r sTRft |, afojprfttrogffoft fefirErefo* * r m 1 1 m w x, s*ftf, «rt»F*TO ^ c t f ! w srgfrT % fiR T t q>fr* ?nrr% t*tt ir *ft *ft *f? arft sfcr < r w $ m w 11 feetft m frsrer 1 * f t xrn, w^irmaft % «nwnr$ *rr ^ r r 1 f a ^ra% 5ft»ff T fr | , sw f r ^ R f cr«u arr? apT crijft *rcr spt 3ftr far ftr%, ^ ar^sft farr | i sft *rfRT3r *rerrcrfffff v t ^rrf^T 1 a rk 3ft m * ^mr sptfto arr? ^ «ftf % «rcfte*R *nr% % * f arrsr *rff *Tft^r ^ 3TT 8fR ^TTT tnf, *t, *rhr sr TOt arr% apf * r? fan *m tflx f W t $r t a r «mrr% ^* t$ afk$*rqft forfo qRTOT *T$T I I ^ftsprr ffq-f ? SHRI DINESH JOARDER (Malda): Sir, w r TOrp; w sf*** I would ask the hon. Minister that in Malda Sr arrfo ^ ^ f’rr fo *r? since 1967 every year there is flood and the hon. Minister is well aware of the flood of Malda «Wf % m srsr f^rr fafrfe * because of this Farraka Barrage and its afflux ^ n r aft* nsfptt % *r bunds that are creating trouble. May I know i from the hon. Minister whether this Farraka afflux build to Kalindri river lock gate will be constructed and within how much time !w t sropTT srre cm ^ ^ forfcr and also Mahanand river master plan for want % T’sft ftr sr&r of which Malda, North Bengal and Bihar are srfsR? ^ fr^r srtft ? being inundated by flood every year. This project requires only Rs. 10 to 12 crores for execution. So I request the hon. Minister to * r r t o t r *f?r ^ take up these bunds and rectification of Malior f^ r wrfrft % ark ^rr wrf sr bundh also immediately. This year this flood % ^ apt gr> forr arr | in Malda has surpassed all the previous records and 25 human lives have been taken w frr ^ r r t ^ ? away and thousands of houses and hundreds of cattle have been washed away but no relief *rcr t o t r *k sfto *nrr % is there. I have visited flood affected Malda *r? «ftf? [sft TPT TOT TTWWR] 5PTTf^?r ft? g1 srnsrf s*rf^r ^ ro rn : % f^rtr i % 5 r fff ? a^k arwr ? rf tttt 11 qr^r^r f^TR w r fn r »nt g1 *sf ^ r 11 f^rr aftr tft arnr ? insf^artft tftarr? vr qt^r *npr *r w f^Ff ssfrfjrcrtf arrft ?r ^ g, s t sr'rfFrer wr Tfr g i arft *ffrT ^ ?r ^ 3rn% U ti m r ^ w*z fa«TF*r sfrr t to ttt *tt s*tr f*rcft f^rm r ^ r p r f? i src^t^r a i^ t fa fta vtf 5t^ ^r% 11 aft ^snrf tft SW'TT to r ^ i m«r ft ^ tt'9 t 5Tf«r ^ * 1 ^ 1 ,% ^^f?rrr ^ gfT^ fosrtff crairpft sffr ^ gM r reR ^ I IV wm §%5TTTf gnxr | TT%^nff % f o r ^ tft 5TfT ^ ^r% fair ter 3rr?ft | spjft *Tf 1 3 fK ?ft a ra w r f t f r w ^t ^ # t ^ 11 Ir w i flRspn: ^r T^ft ^ t | ^ r r a m | ? ^rr % ^ H r | ffT ^aftfqPTTf TPT *«mfr w % % t o f a n r * % ?m ^f«r ^nit ^ ? ht aft t;*n^r »r frrcr arft sft ^ ^ > r qft ^Ttarcw g, itt ^ Secondly about the D. V. C.. the water is T O ft VtWR ^ 5ft irar % released just when the dams are filled to the brim. I would like to know from the hon. ? f^ ft >rrnrqr|, w ?r«rr#T8iftfrf% 347 Disc. n . Flood and AUGUST 12,1971 Dmght in tht Count# 348 *fH pw srcrre] a r c r o sjft t $t | afVr ^ ^ n % qrt a R i^ «ft apwra f w * 3* * ( t a r f o r r ) : m r - % f?rq w r srnr arta «nrr% aft tft* qfar ’Tftsw, w r v r v r «R fr fsm nr t ? sprc 2Tf arts ar^rrr ?ft w o t stto ^ si? artt aRrnr ^ 3fanrr fsrcrr sfr star q r snrrfj^r t^ t| i ^srr?r ?n^f ?ft*r qr w 3*% q-ftro $ sfta aft t o ^ 1» to % ^rpf spt ^r^it, crrfa^ ^rrr* % 3FT wnrfr anfc ? f^ r «Pt 3r? % w^nrr *rr ?r% i qwrs v j t a sfrt ar*n??: s*rft *ft t o fa% Jr ^ aft irfaprr 33t ?frr TOcT* C5TH 3TOTT jftspTT* STRft t , fzrr ^ Tt^-STPFT % aw arr? % qtf^r *r sf^srrq^t arf^ sftsr #snft * 3 ^ i *f^f! % ^rar^ftTt^ 9T?T ¥TK fk ^ 'flic) f , f^T^% 5% 3r?t Tt ^ % =afcs | t o affrr 3«n:- to ark art 3? tsftffRT wrr ^ t o f t *rq; | art?: ??raft t o ^ % %5t 4 I *MT f f ^ r r r lt?ft 3Tt3PTT 3TO»jt f?TTOT *ftt 11 ^rtsnr arrfar ^t far f r ^ r ^ R t v i# *£\ sft w z wtot 1 1 tw% fans ^rsft?rnT ftcrt |, 3^ aftT: VTO ^ Tt^- . arnr arfa tftsr *rr?f 3 3 i ^ a n ra a p ft T O q?t 3Tt| S^faRT «T3?«rr ^ 3 H ^ f ? ^ gsrr | wtfr arnft w r fo rr 4 1 •SHRI B. N. REDDY (Niryalguda) : Mr. Chairman, Sir, I am only putting a question tu r n crftfto Jr ?*ft*r as suggested by you. Andhra Pradesh is known as the Granary of the South and such a State t »Srfta to st % fa r *r§f iprr i i is now in the grip of severe drought. The ssfai? tffcnrr 3f*ft?r^ qraft i State Government has not been able to cope ar% ?frsr ^ fsrtr arpr fa r ^ up with the severe drought conditions there with all its resources. Their inability and wt3S*tt ^ i helplessness in alleviating the sufferings of the people have been conveyed to the Centre by wffoff % f^rq ^ ^ to >wwr the State Government. In this connection I ^ | arif'ftffcT K it* &>W *T$nft STfSt want to ask of Jtte GentrakGovernment whether any action has been taken or proposed to be aft »rrt»t aft *ft am arfa tftsr wnrw taken on the representation from the State. v ? i I put the blame squarely at the door of the •The original speech was delivered in Tdugu. 949 Dist. re. Flood and SRAVANA 21,1893 (SAKA) Drought in the Country 350 State Government for allowing the conditions That will be more beneficial to your interests. to deteriorate to such a level when they have I think you will agree to this.... (Interruptions) become helpless. For the last two or three months that Government took no remedial THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY measures to arrest the onslaught of drought. AFFAIRS, AND SHIPPING AND TRANS What action does the Centre propose to take PORT (SHRI RAJ BAHADUR): I will re- immediately to relieve the people of their quest my friend, the Minister, to confine his wanton sufferings? Is it not true that the remarks and leave the rest to be replied by Centre has been playing a game of power poli letters in writing. Please let the members have tics of Telengana and Andhra Pradesh when two minutes each so that they may be able to the people of the State have been sliding into put their questions. destitution ? Is it not also true that the State Government have asked for an immediate assis MR. CHAIRMAN : I agree to your sug tance to the tune of Rs. 10 crores ? Have they gestion. I have no objection to it.. also not asked for a survey by a Central Team SHRI RAJ BAHADUR: The Minister to assess the damage due to drought ? At least will speak less. now, will the Centre wake up to the urgent requirements of the millions of people of MR. CHAIRMAN : Will you please ask Andhra Pradesh or will they still continue to the hon. Members to take one minute only ? indulge in the game of power politics? Is not SHRI RAJ BAHADUR: They will take the Centre aware that not even water is avail only two minutes. able for drinking purposes, leave alone food grains, especially in the regions of Telegana (<*mx ) : urm fo and Rayalaseema ? # arn% ^ csrmr Are the leaders at the Centre who, day in for * 5TPT: 3PFTW3ftx aprrar and day out, mouth slogans of socialism and ferfr ^ t, t o j ^ social justice in the Parliament aware that the social fabric of the people is on the verge of sre arr disintegration ? Will the so-called Socialist Government at the Centre realise its responsi asrarwT t«pr *t mfhr twm $ bility and duty to the people of the country and take immediate steps to provide the basic ^ i necessities of life to the people and the cattle ? «rt m m * Grar (JTsrsnfr) : jrm v fa MR. CHAIRMAN: The hon. Irrigation ^r % farfasr srrarfirm? Minister.... {Inttrruptions) arrf 11 $rfar?r f^ ir $ *rr? m i % Several hon. Members rost. arfN?arr^ 11 mxx ftr^n: qr?ft *« [sspr fa«r] sr^PTT tfr srra srTtfr 1 1 * ^r 3r T^t | 1 10 w r ^nr ^ arprar *rre?rr f? f a mf-irecr srtaf % sftt^Rr 1 1 ^ ?rr?r lr $ $ vft ^ r i^jftfa^ fcsfta % *nr ^ T^r 1 1 ar.irr *5 ^ft t | t ®rnr *nc I i | w ^pt ^ q?rr ^ 1 ?F*r ??r ^ c r % *ffa ^ i to n * h ^ ^ ^ ^ fiTT^T *r wtftn cT^FT *ftTT *Pt *yr ar^Pnrr ^ * t I » 5tsr | ^ *Ft n*t v fa^ri ^nr 1 %%t ^ % »T??r^ *r ^ sr»T5ft^: sft «ftTW3ftTTH (3T ^3*) : 5FTW jfter: »t3r t ^ r vt *v* ^ % crs^r w sr^ar, 4 srr faTTF 5TR I *H5 ^ | cSrt* 2T| s&r afK fa^rc: tfr *frr *|?n ssPFr m f arr f a % but they are very necessary for the existence of that district. The Maner project was sane* s rt Tm j* sf^f3ft?: z w m tioncd when there was agitation. Now when % *ftfr *»rc srte q^ter arw^r % r ts r there is no project, the hon. Minister should r t s r 80 * tm a r r w ar.^r w a r n ; tr f 4 1 implement that project, I would like to know whether he wants again agitation for this pur w r *r£r ?r^r f fa fT^r ?T| 4 fa 3TR S?fa f?=TlT cfTT fe^RT SHRI ESWARA REDDY (Guddapah): 11 s?r% fair wr ? There is a serious situation prevailing conse- quent on black market prices of foodgrains *r$ f*r 3rnr*r *rr?r% 4 i prevailing. So I want to ask what measures Government propose to take to control prices. fsTfrc TO7R sfTJT *PT r t f People arc feeling the pinch of these high prices very much. Foodgrains are selling at w r qtsrmaff ^ fair arre^rr^ fc Rs. 1.40 a kilo in Rayalaseema. Grains should qTR for srr% arrrore £ i am f t *! * be made available to the people at 85 P a kilo. s sft *nr % m G5 r t * w t ?rt 3% f i 3TF5T m *r^r w *ffa [ «rt 3TT 1 * rcr *r*r t f r *Rr * * * 3fr * t? fr^rr I I fwrr %rg=tq- W tm x spt ^t % f m r f %3Ttf 35 ftsff * #qr f l f TOT I *fffr f t f t #■ %fftq- TOTR ^ ^fr ctt^ 3r ?t s 5r t % affa qft srrsr **r % I arrsfaff % f^q wt $ei ^r SttR 4 f m ?RP I 3% *R^R 3FJT sfrr* % %fo?T ^T?RRt % frtrgft^srrTf 5TWf tft *jr ^ ^ 3?t wr f a q *f t % f t % ®rf *ft»r ? ?*rr 3rr ^ t | ? *fanr spftft ?rft ^t *trt sfr arft ft *pft | ^PKt ffa*T 3RT SR- 3# TTfRT spTTmft «ft W ft (wft^r^:): s ftr srf?T ^ -arsptft f f ^ ^TTTft srnrjfr ? 3RT?JT^ r, ^RTTT 3 f t ^ ^ W «TR eft ®RT SR/PR 'Tfrspft ^TRft ?T^T f^TW 3rr? ^ | %fr?r s r ^ arff er^r arreft ^Ttq^ft ? *rcr ^r *n*r ^ srf^rcrfT ?ft»ft t sM sr* f r ^ #t^t 3nftfT q r srm $ m S|?t 3TT? # f f ^Ft TTTft srrtnft ? I I ^ ?Rqr ?r qr *ft*r?ft ^r qr^ft SRT cTSafa % usq- % ^ p f t '7t SJT ^ftT sif ^rrgrr 1 1 z m f r * fpraT »nrr t f r 3;# ST^T «£t ^rrTnft ? # ifif StFT'TT =fT^TT g TK $*? ??r#' STFtr, flft 3PM app* ^T% ?rf f r w r an? % snra * srsTR % faq; ?r arV jfmcft % $?r f OT^ft aim fr^rr 3rw 1 »TFr Tt3i# 37# €t% 5RT^ ^t STO^TT frtr fsRr ^ f ^ n r t * >ft fr^rr g ^SRSpR sp^ff I 3T3' cT37 % 3«T ^ftift % f rtr 3T h ^ t # TOTR * -ift f?r*rr I I ^ftf **nf ssr^rr srff ^ ?rar % fa* * %*sfnr ?r^iT % w r sq-^rr ^ arart anft »n* sfttf *?t TO W»T % sftff 3ffr ^fft l?fqr POWER (DR. K. L. RAO) : Mr. Speaker, *$y\ g * n a r ^ ^ ° t ^ t ^ r ^ r sJT^Frr Sir, I am most grateful to the hon. Members * sfr^rft ? t a^ft % ^r^rr f i for their very valuable suggestions and partici pation in the debate. A« many aa 50 Member* have spoken and it is almost a record, in point mr^i^T «rti : snrrrfa of numbers and in ration. There are so many 3ft, ^ ft 3ft * fsrff s r m % arrqr *rt ^TT^ff questions which bon. Members have asked. As it will not be possible for me to give an answer ^ S tfft f t | ^ 3ft areftififtar to all those points in the short time at my dis t t ^ ^ **■ ^ ^ 3T°RT posal, I shall send the answers in writing to the hon. Members. I will now deal with a few tsnfsnrcrerrg i important points. * «ft m x v m (iRn:T) : ^w?f?T Many hon. Members have said that we have sft $ *r? ^ tatt srt?err j£ fr M *rr not done anything in respect of flood control in spite of the fact that we have pasted through * ^ft % yt ft # % arw «TRT 3ft 25 yean since Independence. It is entirely n t^ w t 3?r% w m x % 5^as «npr incorrect. Anything that has been done by 357 Disc. rt. Flood and SRAVANA 2 1, 1893 (SAKA) Drought in the Country 358 way of national programme for flood control Some of them have said Budapest, a beautiful has been done after we achieved Independence; town, has been protected from floods, and actually we started in 1954. asked what we have done. Our beautiful city of Delhi lias also been protected. You would We have so many beautiful rivers in this not see any flood in Delhi after wc have built country that it is not possible to control all of the Najafgarh works. them. It is impossible. Some hon. Members have said that man has been able to go to the One hon. Member has said that the Yangtze moon—that was with reference to the United has been controlled by China. We have done States—hut we here have not been able much more than China has done. I have been to control our rivers. It is easier to go to China; I know all their work. We have to the moon than to control floods. done much more. In the Yangtze they have Even in the United States-—they have not done much. There is something apprecia gone so many times to the moon—they havr ble which they have done on the Yellow river. got only three major rivers in their country. But whatever they have done is much less than They have spent several thousand crores of what we have done in this country. 1 submit rupees but in spite of that, damages due to that in spite of the complex difficulties, what floods occur every year and they have got a big we have done in this country by way of control problem of flood control, and they spend ling a large number of livers is still a very nearly Rs. 50 crores a year. Therefore, the creditable work especially after we got Inde question of control of these rivers is a problem ; pendence. it is a very intricate problem, a complex one, on which roan has no control so as to comple Of course, many Members are impatient. tely control those various factors connected I can quite appreciate it ; because of the large with them. amount of suffering and the damage that has been occurring year after year, hon. Members In uur country, since Independence, wc have are impatient. But we have also limitations been able to achicve very c reditably by spen imposed on us by Nature. For example, this ding Us. 225 crores. Wc have been able to year the whole trouble has been due* to the save about 25 per cent of our land from being Ganga. The Brahmaputra is lying low ; it has devastated, that is, the area that is prone to one tributary, Subansiri, which caused a breach floods is about 60 million acres in this country. at one place. It looked as though it wanted Out of the 60 million acres, we have been able to show a sample of the trouble for Assam. to protect 15 million acres ; that is, about 25 But after that there has brrn no trouble for per cent wc have done. And this is a very Assam this year. creditable achievement. For the next 10 years we have set up a programme to have another The main trouble this year is from the 25 per cent. So, by 1981, we hope that about Gauga. The Ganga has sluwn a paculiar char 50 per cent of the land that is subjected to acteristic this year. In the last half a century floods, it will be possible for us to save it from so much of water has not followed through the the damages due to floods. Ganga. The Ganga has readied a much higher level in previous years, for instance in 1923, Ultimately, whatever we do, still there will than it has reached to clay ; but the volume of be something left. We may not be able to give water tltat passed through the Ganga has never complete flood protection. The maximum that been so much. For instance in Patna there is we will be able to do is about 80 per cent. 20 the Gandhi Ghat. If the water flowing throu per cent damage will always occur, especially gh it is 12 lakhs cusecs, it is just below the dan with the size of the country like ours which has ger level. Wheo it goes above that, there is got also a very large number of rivers. Thcre- danger and damages are caused. The amount fore, we have to understand that flood control of water above the danger level has beerf only is not a sector where we [ Dr. K. L. Rao 1 is why the whole trouble has arisen this year. I SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA (Jainagar) : have seen the river, it is a mass of water, it I want to know whether the Mokameh has has been running completely full for the last aho contributed to the Ganga floods. 20 days. Tributaries like the Gandak, the Sone and the Poon Poon are not able to emptv DR. K. L. RAO : From Buxar to Koilwar themselves, drain themselves into the Ganga a large area has been inundated and the town because the level is higher. Even today it is of Arrah is under water. Similarly, water has quite high in the Ganga, much above the entered Patna, Khageria and Monghyr. danger level, 1$ feet above the dangrr level. To day 16 lakhs cubic feet per second of water We can take steps to prevent these inunda is flowing. Anything more than 12 lakhs tions. By constructing various engineering cusecs will cause damage all along the Ganga. works, it will be possible for us to some extent How many dam' can be built ? It is impossi to save ourselves from the Ganga floods. It is ble to control all this amount of water. This true that Bihar has suffered very badly this kind of problem is bound to be there, there is year I am sorry it has happened. I onlv hope bound to be some trouble or other, but we pan that the level of Ganga will come down and the take a large number of steps by which we will sufferings will rease after some time. But we be able to eliminate the damages to the largest should do some of these works which are inevi extent. table in Bihar. For example, Bihar is the worst sufferer this Some members were asking about the assis- year. Many crores of people are suflering. I tancr given by the Centre to Bihar. The Go think Mr. Mishra said that the Prime Minister vernment of India has given Rs 2 crores imme had not given anything to fiihai from the diately for giving relief. As soon as this money Prime Minister’s Relief Fund. It is incorrect is spent or even as they go on spending, thev She has given the largest amount this year to will get more money to carry out whatever Bihar, namely Rs. 1 lakh. Similarly for West relief measures are necessary. Bengal and for U. P. she has given about The next State that has suffered is UP. So Rs. 75,000, for Assam Rs. 50,000 and so on. Out of the estimated loss of Rs. 225 crores so far as Chitauni is concerned, the river there is in a very inconvenient cornel ; it is not able far this year, nearly Rs. 180 crores has occurred to get out and it is attacking the hanks cons in Bihar. All this is due to the Ganga flowing tructed there. This year the railway embank in a massive way, in a sustained manner, for ment has breached, with the result that a large a large, number of days. Therefore, we would number of people have been affected. Fortu like to protect the people from this kind of nately, the breach occurred in day time and damage. That is the main question. there was no loss of life, but a large number of people had to be evacuated. This is one of the At a place between Piprasi and Madhu- very difficult areas. We have so far spent many bhani in the Gandak river, the embankment has crores of rupees in tackling this, but it is a very given way and it hat caused inundation both complex problem. The river has got into a in Bihar and U. P. These embankments can very inconvenient position there and we should be set right. As I stated in my earlier state* do something very drastic for it. Therefore, ment on floods the main trouble was due to we are setting up a committee to go into it breaches. At Barauni the Roopnagar embak- thoroughly and suggest suitable measures. ment gave way, and that is giving a lot of trouble. Fortunately we have got the railway So far as Ghagra is concerned, it i« a very embankment and the road embankment which mighty river. But the river Rapti, for its sure, are jfcotecting the Barauni Oil Refinery. If has been causing a lot of trouble. One way to we can prevent these breaches, we would be control it ist by the construction of a dam at able to save a lot of suffering. , Jalkumdi.'which is unfortunately located in Nepal. Therefore, we could not construct a In Katihar also there was a breach in the dam or reservoir there. I have requested the Shankar Embankment because of which water Chief Minister of UP to set up a committee to entered Katihar town. look into it. It is a nuisance river; it has no S61 Cauvtry Waters Dispute (S ta) t SRAVANA 21, 1893 (SAKA) Cauvety Waters Dispute (Stat.) 362 dep th ; it is shallow, but every year water is it is very necessary to construct some dams flowing out and it creates a lot a trouble. So, higher up in Bengal. Very recently I had I have requested the UP Chief Minister to set discussion with the Chief Engineer about this. up a committee to go into this and suggest They are trying to construct a dam. If that what can be done in Indian territory to comes true, then the construction of the control it. As I said, Jalkundi is 50 miles plu< embankments would save Suvarnarekha. inside Nepalese territory and it is not easy to All these works have to be done by the States. get the permission of Nepal because the dam It is no U'C saying that nothing has been done. will submerge some areas of Nepalese territory. Every year floods do come. But if the floods Therefore, we have to find out other measures do not come then famine will come. As one to prevent the ravages caused by Rapti. hon. Member has said, it is much better to have floods than famine. So far as Ghagra is concerned, as I said, it is a very mighty river and nothing can be AN. HON. MEMBER : What about done about it. Nepal is proposing to construct Ganga-Cauvei y ? some dam for power generation. If that is done, then it is possible to control floods to DR. K. L. RAO : I am very glad that some extent. But in India it is not possible to hon. Members arc taking a lot of interest in control it because when it enters the plains, it this subjcct of control of our rivers. is so big that it carries much more water than the Ganga. So, it is not possible to control it A large number of hon. Members asked by our own efforts here. Of course, wc can about the Jinking of Ganga and Cauveri. I take some protective measures so far as inunda think an hon. Member from Tamilnadu also tion and erosion are concerned. raised it. It is quite a good project but it involves a large amount of money and a large amount of engineering work has to be Coming to West Bengal, year after yrar, we have got this problem of inundation of extensive gone through. It has to be gone into carefully. areas in Hooghly and Howrah districts by the We are taking the necessary steps but it will Daraodar river. When the DVC project was take some time. planned, it was conceived to let down 250,000 cusecs at Durgapur. So far as sea erosion in Kerala is concerned, it is an yearly feature, because the South West Monsoon first attacks Kerala and, therefore, Therefore, the lower portions from Durga all its ferocity is felt by Kerala. It is true that pur Barrage to the confluence of Rupnarayan in Kerala we are losing valuable land. It was should be saved. Unfortunately, nothing has pointed out that we are also losing valuable been done in that direction. The embankments monozite which is required for atomic energy. should be constructed. That has not been It is all true. But it is a very simple work. It done. It will cost Rs. 13 crores. Flood control is for the hon. Member to persuade the State is a State problem; not of the Centre. The Government to undertake this work, which State has to provide the money for it. We arc costs only Rs. 4 crores; or the hon. Member asking the States to make provision for it and can persuade the Finance people at the Centre see to it that the work is done in the next and see that assistance is given to Kerala. three years. If that is done there would be no problem of floods in Howrah and Hooghly DR. HENRY AUSTIN: The State cannot districts. do it. DR. K. L. RAO : I am afraid my time is The question of Suvarnarekha river was over. Finally, I thank the hon. Members for raised. It passes through Bolasore in Orissa their participation and I will go through all the and Midnapore in West Bengal. It is a very suggestions made by them. big river and it is causing a lot of damage. But the main difficulty aboifjt Suvamaykha is that «ft qwrrarsr wwww (»ror : if you construct the embankments it would be breached. As it is a very big river there would s w r srr^arr g % be a large number of breaches. Also sub- 3ft s tf to r r fafrreT | ^ sr^r 3p5$ mersion of villages between embankments would give the same trouble as Koai. Therefore, | . . . 363 Cauvery Waters Dispute (Stat.) AUGUST 12,1971 Caueery Waters Dispute (Slot.) 364 arwrw : sriq* eft s t a f , first time taken steps which will if not remove i the drought will at least remove the rigours of drought after these steps have been im plemented. We have implemented the pro *rt * m \* m i m h w : 5ft grammes which have been taken under the TT3TWT if T R P T R ^TPT W Four Five Year Plans -R s. 100 crores pro- gramme for drought affected areas. «P?TFT | TK £*T TO 7f?ft ?Tft qfsrcrr 1 1 So far as the short-term relief is concerned the hon. Members would realise that the a p sw : 3TPT I primary responsibility of providing relief is of the State Government but I am very glad to 19.00 hr». inform the House that the State Governments have been discharging their responsibility very «ft HMIfWl'fl VTWTTT • ^ fjJ% *f m well. They have sanctioned all the relief necessary in order to help the people in their &vm ipnifl’ | ?TOt 'ttf q r crnrt State and only recently some of them have q f^ T T t I approached the Central Government for necessary assistance from our side. I have had THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE the opportunity of discussing the matter with (SHRI F. A. AHMED) : Mr. Speaker, Sir, the Minister of Agriculture from Maharashtra, I can understand the feeling and anxiety with with the Chief Minister of Assam, and the which the hon. Members have participated in Prime Minister has received representation the discussion today. They have very vividly from Andhra Pradesh and I think some re described the sufferings which the people have presentation has also been received Irom been subjected to both on account of floods Mysore. AH I need tell the hon. Members is and drought in our country this year. I share whatever assistance is called for and whatever their concern. The weather in this year lias can be given under the rules will be given to been very erratic throughout the country. these States. Also, we have either sent the Some parts of our country have been aflectcd study teams in oider to assess the real relief by drought while in other parts of the country necessary in these areas or we shall be sending we have been having severe floods. Even a them to othet States also. State like Assam which generally ha* floods at this time of the year is suffering from drought The other question which has been raised is and the< people have been subjected to about the doubt whether we will have some innumerable sufferings in that part. Similarly, difficulties so far as the food situation is con so far as Maharashtra, Andhra Pradesh, cerned. I take this opportunity of informing Mysore are conccrncd they have also been the House that our latest estimates indicate subjected to drought. There have been severe that the total production in the year 1970-71 floods in Bihar, Uttar Pradesh, Orissa and in is 107.81 million tonnes. Formerly we were soipe Parts of Rajashan. under the impression that we were likely to get 106 million tonnes but now the The hon. Members in this connection have estimates indicate that the production is likely raised two very pertinent questions. The first to be 107.81 million tonnes. It is nearly 8.5 question is what the Government has done to per cent more than the previous year's produc alleviate the difficulties from the long-term tion because in the previous year it was 99.5 point of view and what is the immediate million tonnes. We hope that in spite of the action taken in order to remove the distress and erratic weather this year, food production will provide,*clief to the people. not go down and we shall be able to maintain this percentage of increase in the coming year Sir, I would not deal with the floods as nay also. hon. friend and colleague has dealt with that subject and that is a subject which requires So far as the shortage of food in some States time to be considered and to be discussed at is concerned, I can inform the House that we length, but I would only like to point out that have sufficient stocks; of food and wherever so far as drought is concerned we have for the food is required, we shall see that it is seat to 365 Cauvety Waters Dispute (Stat.) SRAVANA 21, 1893 (SAKA) Cauoery Waters Dispute (Stat.) 366 those places as early as possible according to sfrff m srr? *r spttst w r sffx the requirement of those States. On that account also hon, Members need not have any fear. *T a p f t i t w t 1 1 There are some other matters which had been raised by hon. Members. One of the SHRI F. A. AHMED t So far as the important ones was about the difficulty of question of rigs is, concerned, theie had been seeds so far as flood-affected areas are con demands from many States for the supply of cerned. I have already had discussions with rigs. We are trying to get rigs from such regard to the supply of seeds to these arras, States where the weather has been very good both to the flood-affected and the drought- and try to supply to those States as early as affected areas, and we are taking some steps. possible. On the 19th of this month the Food Ministers of the States will be here and I shall take the SHRI B. N. REDDY: The Andhra opportunity of discussing this matter furthci Pradesh Government has written recently ex with them and see to what extent we can meet pressing grave com ern of the State over the the requirement of every State and every place serious famine there and has requested the so far as seeds are concerned. So, on that Central Government to intervene immediately. account also hon. Members need not have any What is the Central Government going to do t fear. There is no mention about the famine in Andhi a Pradesh. The State Government has PROF. S. L. SAK.SENA : Rabi seed has pressed its helplessness. The State Govern been destroyed in UP by rains. ment has thrown its hands up. SHRI F. A. AHMED : About that also SHRI F. A. AHMED : I think, the hon. we have taken note and we shall see that Rabi Member was not attentive when I mentioned seed to UP is provided in time for the next that we have also received representations from season, the Andhra Pradesh Government. We are taking necessary action in the matter. SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA : Fod der ? SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA: Whose responsibility it is to provide money for SHRI F. A. AHMED : There has been relief operations ? We have not heard from demand so far as fodder is concerned and we any of the two Ministers as to whether any special amount is going to be provided for gee that fodder can be moved to these relief operations. flood and drought affected areas in States. We shall also take steps in that behalf. MR. SPEAKER : He mentioned it. These were the only matters which were referred to in the course of the debate so far as SHRI F. A. AHMED : As I have already my Ministry is concerned. I can assure hon. pointed out, the primary responsibility of Members that we are fully conscious and aware providing relief is of the State Governments of the erratic weather in all parts of the country concerned. According to the Finance Com* and whatever steps are necessary will be taken mission Award, there are certain amounts which in order to help the State Governments to a State has to incur before approaching the discharge their responsibility in a proper Gtentral Government for the pyrpose of manner. necessary assistance. After these amounts are exhausted, they make a representation to us and we send our study team for the purpose SHRI P. VENKATASUBBAIAH : Supply of rigs? of assessing what actually is the expenditure and what percentage of that expenditure will be given by the Central Government. But we T O W W W : $ need not wait for that decision. When a 367 Trial o f AUGUST 12, 1971 Shtikh Mujibur Rahman (Stat.) 368 [ Shri F. A. Ahmed ] representation is received by us and, if there of the day. But since the Prime Minuter is is any trouble any where and they ask for here, and she hai also issued a statement finance assistance, we give assistance by way of appealing to all the countries to come to the loans which are later on adjusted according to rescue and see that the execution of Shri the pattern of assistance which the State Mujibur Rahman is halted, I would request Government can get according to the rules. her, through you, Sir, to say some good word so that the world may know that this Parlia ment is equally concerned with it and that the SOME HON. MEMBERS : rose- execution with the help of the American im perialists by Yahya regime is stopped. With MR. SPEAKER : No more debate. the death of Shri Mujibur Rahman, it might be the death of the parliamentary democracy and secularism in Bangla Desh. I would «ft spar vbsw t : request the Prime Minister to say something f i r f w % »TT* 'Tfffl' % lf% about that. f i afo: * $ frs 3?r *rnrn: THE PRIME MINISTER, MINISTER T m wrz | 3rh ^ tar OF ATOMIC ENERGY, MINISTER OF ^ r$ 1 1 *rr*rr f HOME AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- FORMATION AND BROADCASTING 3 err arnT f q -aft ft ? aransr srf (SHR1MATI INDIRA GANDHI) : Mr. WT t , fa r ^rr q;*TfT SPTf*^ irt Speaker, Sir, I can fully appreciate the deep »t$ 11 sr$T ^ j t t ^ ^ cfr aTf-qr concern, anxiety and, indeed, agony of the mind of the hon. Membets with regard to the w r f si ? news which has br*en corning across from West Pakistan. SHRI F. A. AHMED . Whatever is per- missible according to rules will be given to I ran only siv that the Government shares evety State. (Interruptions ) this agony and anxiety. I do not agree with the last sentence of the hon. Member that the freedom movement in Bangla Desh will die. MR. SPEAKER ; Order, order. I am not Because we all know that martyrdom gives going to allow it. immortality. We all know, that far fiom wea 1 kening a movement, it strengthens it. Every SHRI F. A AHMED : We are taking up where in the world, freedom struggles have the matter with the Finance Ministry for the gone from strength to strength, the more the purpose of providing them ad hoc relief by way authority has tried to suppress them. of loan. Sir, we have tried to get some news. This is from the United Press International—the hon. Members can take it or leave it. 19.13 hr». “But the Pakistani officials to-day refused to say whether the trial of the STATEMENT RE: REPORTED TRIAL Awami League leader Sheikh Mujibur OF SHEIKH MUJIBUR RAHMAN BY THE Rehman started on schedule yesterday.” MILITARY REGIME OF PAKISTAN There has been no other news. No mention SHRI S. M. BANERJEE (Kanpur): Sir, in on any of the'Pakistan Radio broadcasts. the morning, I requested, through you, the Prime Minister to »ay something about Shri Just now we have been discussing the Miyibur Rehman and his safety. I know that natural calamities of drought and floods which a resolution cannot be moved at the fag end cause hardship and su ffering to our people 869 Trial o f SRAVANA 21, 1893 (SAKA) Sheikh Mujibur R ahim (Slat.) 370 year after year. But, here theie is a calamity suppressing the legitimate political rights of of great magnitude, not caused by nature but the people even in the different provinces of by man and one which is quite unnecessary. Weit Pakistan. Now we come to the end of As I have said an previous occasions, we are the session. As we do so, we reiterate our concerned not only because of the ideals of strong feelings about Sheikh Mujibur Rehman freedom and human dignity and human suffer and all that is happening to the long-suffering ing but also because this tragedy has a direct people of the Bangla Desh, They are a gifted effect and impact on our own country. people who have perhaps given more revolu tionaries in this sub-continent than any other I can understand the desire of the Members part of the region. To-day they are under for greater effort on our pai t. Many Membeis going great hardship. have sent telegrams to various oiganizations and Parliaments abroad. The Government of As I said earlier, Sheikh Mujib is not just India also has approaihcd the Secretary-Gene on individual. We should be concerned about ral of the U. U Thant. I myself have N., the liberty and the rights even of an indivi written on more than one occasion the Heads dual and a revolutinnaiy. But, to-day, he of States and Piimc Ministers to try their best has become the embodiment ----- (Interruptions) to save the life of Sheikh Mujibur Rehman. I of the aspirations and urges of the people of know that there is a feeling in Parliament that Bangla Desh and of the suffeiing and spirit Parliament itself should move a resolution. I of sacrihce which they aie enduring with such have no objection to such a resolution, but I couragc and fortitude. feel that it would not serve much purpose ex cept to reiterate our own strong feelings. We know that the sort of military jegime which This is a good note on which to end the exists in Pakistan is not going to pay any heed session. It is a very sad note but such are the to our resolution oi even to the opinion of circumstances of the situation.... other peoples of the world. Perhaps, it could be pressurised by ceitain Governments and we SIIRI SIIYAMNANDAN MISRA (Bcgu- are doing our best that such pressuie should sarai) : What are the leactions of other be exercised. countries to >our approach to the trial of Sheikh Mujibur Rehman i We have also to take into account the fact that anything we do could harm the cause. SHRIMATI INDIRA GANDHI: Several Wc know that there is an effort on the part of have written to us that they are taking up the military regime to propagate the view this matter or that they have taken up the that Sheikh Mujibur Rchman’s actions are matter. * activated by India and that India is encourag ing him. All kinds of other allegations which SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISIIRA : have no foundation whatsoever are being U Thant has no initiative in this matter so made. In fa ct.... fai ? SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : It is all lies. SHRIMAH INDIRA GANDHI: The hon. Member must have seen the statement SHRIMATI INDIRA GANDHI: They issued by U Thant. It appeared in the morn are lies, but we should not do anything whicli ing paper*. I don’t know whether it is the could encourage this propaganda and might full statement or not. But, that it will give go against him. the Hon'ble Members some idea of the diffi culties of the situation. We are aware of the One more point I should like to make to weaknesses of the U. N. which have Jbeen the hon. Members. Sometimes in our speeches, obvious in other situations also. we tend to talk about V^est Pakistan. At all times we should make a distinction between * SHRI P. VENKATASUBBAIAH (Nand- the people of West Pakistan with whom wc yal) : In-built weaknesses. have no quarrel whatsoever.... ( Interruptions) and the military regime which is responsible SHRIMATI INDIRA GANDHI » Another for the atrocities in Bangla Desh and which is question is what will help Sheikh Mujibur 371 Trial o f AUGUST 12,1971 Shtikh Mujibur Rahman (Stat.) 972 [ Smt. Indira Gandhi ] Rchman at this particular moment. I am they are helping the military Government of glad that the House has shown such unity West Pakistan. Even that end will not be and solidarity in this matter, because, this is a served. source of strength to us in this situation. We are interested not merely because of our opi MR. SPEAKER: Now, the House stands nion about Sheikh Mujibur Rehman, but, adjourned sine die. Wish you very comfortable because we think that the action proposed by and happy vacation ; we will meet again some* the military regime of West Pakistan will have time in November. an impact, not only on Bangla Desh and on our country, but we feel, that will have a 19.21 hr*. much wider impact all over the world. Nor will it help even those countries who think The Lok Sabha then adjourned sine die. Tej Kumar Fre«^ Lucknow 14.10.1971—1010r 3pe* v k 11 m x $tft I, «nr o tw m n % ^ p sr*r 3r^f, ?ft « p ^ % f a f f ftert |aft* Thr ^rr^r » rw ar $ m v im % fu ^ lr sr^rsr aft< 11 w f?rj ^ vt ,5fw«rr ^*%% to % fatr ^rr ^ | j s t ^ tt Tpsffa ^5TT «T*SW5JT t o t 3TRf ’f r f ^ » spT wrr* ^ ?Txq) arf^rv *r$r n m | ( 3it?ftfT ?rr?r«T^r f*r% t? r f ^