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Tenth Series, Vol. XLV, No.9 Thursday, December 7, 1995 Agrahayana 16, 1917 (Salta) LOK SABHA DEBATES (English Version) Fifteenth Session (Tenth Lok Sabha) (Vol. XLV contains Nos. 1 to 10) LOK SABHA SECRETARIAT NEW DELHI PYlce : Rs 50 00 [ORIGINAL ENGUSH PROCEEDINGS INCLUDED IN ENGUSH VERSION AND ORIGINAL HINDI PROCEEDINGS INCWDED IN lIINDr VERSION WILL BE TREATED AS AUTHORITATIVE AND NOT THE TRANSLATION THEREOF.') . ' COORlGENIlII TO L()l( SIIBHA JEBl>.TES (JR;LISH VERSIOO) fimraday, Dec:edler 7,l9!J5/Agrilhayna 16/1917(Saka). Col./Lille For 1/2 Thursday, December 17, 1995/ 'thursday, Decenber 7, 1995/ Agrahayana 17, 1917(Saka} Agrahayana 16,1917(saxa) 37/17 38/15 70/2 73/17 lhe Minister of State in The Minister of State in the 159/25 the Ministry of Horne Affairs Ministry of Home Affairs 1€()/25 (Shri Syed Sibtey Razi) (Syeci Sibtey Razi) 173/19(from below) 181/8 194/13 211/29 221/18 229/23 54/3 Shri Mulliapal1y Ramchandran Stir-! Mullappally Ramchadran Shd v.N.Sharma 72/9(fran below) Shri vishwanath 91ama 193/3 Shri Ramesh Cha-mithala Shri Ramesh Chennitha1a 245/18 Shri Barish Narayan Prabhu Stri Harish Narayan Prabhu Zjantye Zantye CONTENTS (Tenth Series, Vol. XLV, Fifteenth Session, 1995lAgrahayana, 1917 (Saka)] No.9, Thursday, December 7, 19951Agrahayana 16, 1917 (Saka) COLUMNS WRITTEN ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS Starred Questions Nos. 161 to 180 4-34 Unstarred Questions Nos. 1702 to 1923 34-248 STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS (i) Stage of Proceedings before the designated court, Poonamalfee and before the Justice Jain Commission of Inquiry Shri P. Chidambaram 269-270 (Ii) Flooding of Gaslitand Mine of Bharat Cooking Coal Limited, Dhanbad Shri Jagdish Tytler 275-276 (iii) Award of Licences to Private Companies for operating basic Telecom services - Laid Shri Sukh Ram 341-360 PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE 271-274 i._ :MMITIEE ON PETITIONS Twenty-third Report - Presented 274 COMMITIEE ON PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS Twenty-third Report - Presented 274 BUSINESS ADVISORY COMMITTEE MOTION RE : Fifty - Sixth Report - Adopted 280 MATIERS UNDER RULE 377 (i) Need for proper maintenance of Kanyakumari-Trivandrum National Highway No. 47 particularly Tamilnadu part of it Shri N. Dennis 281-282 (ii) Need to look into exorbitant charges being levied on passengers at Calicut airport, Kerala Shri Mullappalty Ramchandran 282 (iii) Need lor prevention of cruelty to animals Dr. Satynarayan Jatiya 282-283 (iv) Need to connect Bulandshahar by direct rail service with Lucknow and Delhi Dr. Chattarpal Singh 283 (v) Need for early setting up of industrial growth centres in Bihar Shri Manlay. Lal 283 (vi) . Need to take suitable steps to check recurrence of floods In coastal district Ja9Pur, Orissa Shri Anandi Charan Das 283-284 (vii) Need to reiease more funds to State Government of Haryarla for providing speedy relief to the people affected by floods in the State Shri Jangbir Singh 284 (viii) Need to reopen Ashok Paper Mill at Darbhanga, Bihar Shri Mohammed Ali Ashraf Fatmi 284 DISCUSSION UNDER RULE 193 ECONOMIC SITUATION IN THE COUNTRY 285-338, 366-398 Shrlmati Suseela Gopala" 295-303 Shrl Anltdl Charan Daa 303-307 Shrl Mohan Singh (Deorla) 307-312 (i) (11) COLUMNS Shrl P.G. Narayanan 313-315 Dr. Mumtaz Ansari 316-319 Shri Bhogendra Jha 319-326 Prof. Rasa Singh Rawat 326-330 Shri Rangarajan Kumaramangalam 330-335 Prof. SUsanta Chakraborty 335-338, 366-369 Shri SObhanadreeswara Rao Vadde 369-373 Shrl K.P. Reddaiah Yadav 373-376 Shri Mohan Rawale 378-379 Shri Nirmal Kantl Chatterjee 379-387 Shri Manmohan Singh 387-398 STATEMENT BY PRIME MINISTER Launch of INSAT-2 C Satellite Shri P.V. Narasimha Rao 338-339 CONGRATULATORY REFERENCES Launching of INSAT·2 C Satellite 339-341 LOK SABHA DEBATES LOK SABHA Shri Sukh Ram. He is present. Let him explain. Let him make a statement. Otherwise, let him resign. Please issue a statement. We will have a Thursday, December 7,19951ltgrahayana 17, 1917 (Saka) d ia logue ... (Interruptions) (The Lok Sabha met at Eleven of the Clock) THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF [MR. SPEAKER In the Chair) COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SUKH RAM) : Sir, I am prepared to make a statement whenever times permits. (Interruptions) Whenever you allow me, I am prepared to make a statement. But· one should not be condemned unheard. [English1 MR. SPEAKER: That is right. SHRI RAM KAPSE (Thane) : Mr. Speaker, Sir, I SHRI SUKH RAM : They should at least hear have given a notice for the suspension of Question me ... (Interruptions) Hour, in the matter dealing with the Ministry of Comm unications ... (I nterruptlons) SHAI RAM KAPSE : We want to hear you. SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA : You can make a [Translation] statement. We want to hear you ... (lnterruptions) SHRI RAJNATH SQNKAR SHASTAI : When it MR. SPEAKER: Shri Basudeb Acharia, there is a has been decided that the question Hour will never procedure to be followed in this respect. If you want be suspended, then what is the justification of their certain information from the Minister, you give me a notice? notice. The Minister has said that he would make a statement. Then you wiN get the statement before you. [English1 Then you hear him and then you form the judgement. SHRI RAM KAPSE : We want a statement from But supposing you are alleging certain things against the Government. .. (Interruptions) them, other Members will also allege certain things SHAI BASUDEB ACHARIA (Bankura) : Sir, this is against you. That will be unending. a scandal involving thousands of crores of rupees. (Interrupt-ions) ... (Interruptions) Question Hour should be suspended to take up this issue ... (lnterruptions) We want that SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA : He can make a suo motu statement now ... (/nterruptions) Question Hour should be suspended to take up this matter ... (lnterruptlons) This is the greatest scandal MR. SPEAKER : It is not going on record. of the period ... (Interruptions)" (Interruptions) • MA. SPEAKER: Nothing goes on record. MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Kapse, you are a very (Interruptions) learned Member of this House. You have always been MR. SPEAKER : ShIi Ram Kapse, well, let us putting your finger on the rule and the regulation understand that the Question Hour is to hold the and very rightly. We all appreciate it. This time also, Government accountable. You ask the question in a you could have come before the House by following pointed manner and you get the replies. Now, we the Rules. Now I am reading our Rule 353 to you: have the Question Hour and the other Members have "No allegation of a defamatory or given their notices. incriminatory nature shall be made by a (Interruptions) member against any person unless the member has given adequate advance MR. SPEAKER : They have given the notices. notice to the Speaker and also to the Information has been collected. Questions can be Minister concerned so that the Minister asked and they can be replied. may be able to make an investigation into (Interruptions) the matter for the purpose of a reply ..." SHRI BASUDEB ACHAAIA : We want th9 Have you followed this procedure? suspension of Question Hour... (lnterruptions) (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: More over, if you want to raise MR. SPEAKER : Mr. Acharia, please sit down any Issue, you are very learned Members of this now. I will give you a chance. House. SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA : That is why we are (Interruptions) ~Ialng this issue ... (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: What prevented you from SHRI V. DHANANJAYA KUMAR (Mangalore) : following this procedure? Suppose you want to say Everybody Is learned. As per the rules, we have certain things; you have a right to say. You will not given the notices. Please suspend the Question be obstructed from saying it. They have also said Hour... (Interruptions) that they wanted to make allegations. Should I allow them to makE' allegations against you? SHRI RAM KAPSE : The Government has lost Rs. 65,000 crores only because of the bungling of (Interruptions) • Not recorded. • Not recorded. 3 DEC 7. 1995 Written Answers 4 SHRI RAM KAPSE : Hon. Speaker. Sir, I have SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA : Sir, when the given a notice for the suspension of Question Hour. Minister is ready··to make a statement, you should allow hlm .... (lnterr~ptions) MR. SPEAKER: You have given a notice but why should there be suspension of Question Hour? KUMARI MAMATA BANERJEE: You cannot deny the fact. If you want to raise the matter, there is no SHRI RAM KAPSE : I have asked for a statement harm in raising it in the Zero Hour. Why are you from Mr. Sukh Ram on this issue. He is willing to raising it in the Question Hour? make the statement. I am following Rule 332 ... (Interruptions) . (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: But I have to allow it. There are MR. SPEAKER: The House stands adjourned to two other different things. You are saying, suspend meet again at 1200 Noon. the Question Hour. Other Members are saying, do not suspend the Question Hour because they have given the notices for Questions and they are trying WRITTEN ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS to get the replies. You are not the only person sitting in the House. {English1 Others have an equal right to do that. A"d you are not being denied the right to raise the issue. But Supply of RDX to Militants follow a proper procedure. You are not following the procedure. You are trespassing into the area where *161. SHRI D. VENKATESWARA RAO they are entitled to ask the question. Should I allow SHRI BOLLA BULLI RAMAIAH : them? Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased SHRI RAM KAPSE : I have given notice for to state: moving the Motion. Let voting be taken ... (Interruptions).