September 12, 2019 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H7697 Mr. VAN DREW. Mr. Speaker, Elks CONTINUATION OF THE NATIONAL mittee hearings trying to amend bad Lodge 2839, in greater Cape May, South EMERGENCY WITH RESPECT TO bills with good amendments that the Jersey, recently won first place in the CERTAIN TERRORIST ATTACKS— majority didn’t allow to be passed. We Division IV ENF Chairman’s Challenge MESSAGE FROM THE PRESIDENT thought they might be joining us on at the National Convention. It was also OF THE UNITED STATES (H. DOC. some. They said they would look at named number one in the entire State NO. 116–62) some, but, basically, defeated every of New Jersey. The SPEAKER pro tempore laid be- amendment. Anne Krause, the lodge’s ENF chair- fore the House the following message Today, we met in the Judiciary Com- person, is truly a dedicated member from the President of the United mittee at 8 a.m. to take up a semi, sort whose leadership has helped make this States; which was read and, together of, kind of, a bit of an impeachment Elks Lodge the very best of its kind. with the accompanying papers, referred resolution. We had amendments that Elks Lodges help our community by to the Committee on Foreign Affairs would have made a bad resolution a lit- offering programs to keep children and ordered to be printed: tle better—still not good—but we had a hard time figuring out, on the Repub- healthy and to keep them drug-free. To the Congress of the United States: They also meet the needs of veterans lican side: What is this? Section 202(d) of the National Emer- It sounds like—in Texas, we would and help improve the quality of their gencies Act, 50 U.S.C. 1622(d), provides say we’re fixing to do something. A lot life, work that is so much needed in to- for the automatic termination of a na- of times people say, ‘‘I am fixing to do day’s times. tional emergency unless, within 90 that,’’ but it means it may get put off In addition to these services, Elks days before the anniversary date of its and I may not really be serious, be- Lodges have a generous charitable declaration, the President publishes in cause if I was really serious, I would do foundation that gives millions of dol- the Federal Register and transmits to it right now. lars in scholarships each year to help the Congress a notice stating that the But this resolution—and I have it shape the future of the community of emergency is to continue in effect be- here—it, in the first paragraph, talks our children. yond the anniversary date. Consistent about the committee making discovery I feel very lucky to have such a well- with this provision, I have sent to the requests. But the second paragraph is run community center as a place for Federal Register the enclosed notice, really the one that deals with allega- people to come to gather, to grow clos- stating that the emergency declared in tions that would be an impeachable of- er in our beautiful district. Proclamation 7463 of September 14, fense, or offenses—at least, it is sup- To all the members and staff of Elks 2001, ‘‘National Emergency by Reason posed to. Lodge 2839: Congratulations on your of Certain Terrorist Attacks,’’ is to And so it says: ‘‘Whereas, Special awards, and thank you for all you bring continue in effect beyond September Counsel ’s report re- to our community. South Jersey is 14, 2019. leased on April 18, 2019, found that the proud of you; New Jersey is proud of The threat of terrorism that resulted Russian Government interfered in the you; and the United States of America in the declaration of a national emer- 2016 election in ‘sweeping and system- is proud of you. gency on September 14, 2001, continues. atic fashion.’’’ God bless you. The authorities that have been invoked Okay. But the Mueller report made under that declaration of a national very, very clear, and those who inves- f emergency continue to be critical to tigated, I thought, made it very clear the ability of the Armed Forces of the there was no collusion or, to use the United States to perform essential mis- legal term, conspiracy by anyone in HONORING THE LIFE AND SERVICE sions in the United States and around the Trump campaign with the Russian OF MARCA BRISTO the world to address the continuing Government—none. That part didn’t (Mr. LANGEVIN asked and was given threat of terrorism. For these reasons, happen. permission to address the House for 1 I have determined that it is necessary Even though we have networks like minute and to revise and extend his re- to continue in effect the national CNN and MSNBC, and I don’t know marks.) emergency declared on September 14, who all else, but for 2 or 3 years they Mr. LANGEVIN. Mr. Speaker, today I 2001, in response to certain terrorist at- have talked about the crimes of this rise to celebrate the life of Marca tacks. President and their collusion with Rus- Bristo, whose unyielding commitment DONALD J. TRUMP. sia. to advancing disability rights im- THE WHITE HOUSE, September 12, 2019. Well, when people who have law de- proved the lives of millions. f grees talked about collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia, that As the founder of Access Living and a ISSUES OF THE DAY leader of the National Council on Dis- immediately sent up red flags with me The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under ability, the National Council on Inde- because that is not—‘‘collusion’’ is not the Speaker’s announced policy of Jan- pendent Living, and the United States a legal term that is used in talking uary 3, 2019, the gentleman from Texas International Council on Disabilities, about crimes; it is conspiracy. And so (Mr. GOHMERT) is recognized for 60 min- Marca fought passionately to ensure it immediately begins to raise ques- utes as the designee of the minority that people with disabilities have the tions. leader. Are they really serious about some same rights as their able-bodied peers, Mr. GOHMERT. Mr. Speaker, there is type of crime? Because if they were, including the right to live independ- a lot going on today, a lot going on they would use words that are used in ently in the community. this week. I wish I could say it was all criminal terminology. She was a crusader for the Americans good, but we spent until 10 p.m. the But here, this is a completely decep- with Disabilities Act, and her steadfast night before last working on bills that tive allegation when it comes to Presi- advocacy was instrumental in the pas- would find ways to take people’s guns dent Trump because they take this ini- sage of this landmark civil rights legis- away and, unfortunately, not give tial allegation and say Mueller found lation. them the kind of due process that we that the Russians really were trying to Her work tearing down barriers think the Constitution affords people. interfere in our 2016 election. cleared the way for people with disabil- During my days as, well, a prosecutor Okay. But it didn’t involve anybody ities to pursue their own dreams, and as a felony judge, thousands of in the Trump campaign. That was which, ultimately, also helped me real- criminal cases went through my court. clear. ize my dream of becoming a United I don’t remember anywhere a criminal So they tried to brush over that and States Congressman. defendant bought his gun at a sporting make it sound like, yeah, even though Marca’s legacy is the continued im- goods store, gun store, applied for a there was nobody, President Trump or provement of the lives of people with gun. That is not the way criminals the Trump campaign who were in- disabilities. She made a difference, and work. volved at all, but we are going to kind my condolences go out to her entire And so I didn’t see anything in our of word this, put it in the same sen- family and her friends. hours and hours and hours of com- tence so that it kind of sounds like,

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And this guy that Horowitz found—and he was a good another gear. was dishonored and was no longer re- Obama appointee as inspector general It says, ‘‘that there were at least 10 spected by MI6 that he used to work for there at the Department of Justice, separate episodes of President Trump in England and there was information good Democrat, good appointee. using his official powers to’’—and here that he was discredited, not just his in- And so he does his digging, finds hun- is the word—‘‘thwart or attempt to formation, but he had been discredited, dreds of pages of the most outrageous thwart the special counsel’s investiga- but that is who was hired by Fusion political bias—it’s actually a personal tion.’’ GPS, that was hired apparently by the hatred for and absolute b 1315 Clinton campaign and the Democratic love and affection for candidate Hillary National Committee to try to dredge Clinton—so much overwhelming bias, And that is also very troubling lan- up dirt on candidate Donald Trump so and every conclusion that these biased, guage for those of us that have dealt that they could rig the election against prejudiced, bigoted investigators had with legal terminology in criminal Donald Trump. was 100 percent consistent with all of cases. I don’t know of anybody that has And we have gotten to the bottom of their conclusions. That speaks for dealt with criminal cases. I didn’t hear it, almost. We know that Christopher itself. from anybody on the committee that Steele is the one that didn’t just Now, if half of their conclusions had has ever heard of a crime involving collude, he conspired with people in gone against their bias and prejudice, thwarting. We are familiar with ob- Russia who he ultimately had to bigotry, then you would say, well, you struction of justice. But these are the admit, yes, it is quite possible they know, maybe it really didn’t affect the kind of games you play with words could have been working for Vladimir outcomes of their investigations. But when you know, yes, there is no evi- Putin. So Christopher Steele, it ap- when every conclusion is consistent dence a crime was committed, but pears most likely he was the one that with the bias and prejudice, even maybe if we use different terminology was conspiring with people from Rus- though it is clear, like in the case of it will sound like some kind of bad sia, sounds like Putin’s agents, to try the investigation into the Clinton crime was committed. And clearly, we to destroy Donald Trump. emails, you had Strzok and Page exam- are not going to be able to remove a And there has been noise made about, ining emails, and they were making President from office with the Senate oh, gee, you know, Russia really want- the calls on whether documents are understanding that even the Mueller ed Donald Trump to win. That is not classified, knowing full well if they report, even the Mueller special coun- the way thinks. He said something was classified that Hil- sel team that had all these people that wants the old Soviet empire back. It lary Clinton was being set up legiti- hated Donald Trump, they still really bugs me when educated people mately to be indicted and convicted. couldn’t find anything that would be say, you know, he is such a com- So they wanted to win. indictable. plicated guy. No, he isn’t. He is one of They wanted to do whatever they could Now, some say, Well, but there was the most easily discernable people in to stop Donald Trump from winning, obstruction of justice. We even had the world. He wants the old empire and if he didn’t win, as they said, they one, I would say, incompetent law pro- back. He is a former KGB guy, and he needed an insurance policy, you know, fessor come before our committee and will do whatever it takes to try to get just in case he won. say she could guarantee that she could it back. I don’t think he cared so much And Horowitz did a grave injustice get a conviction and win on appeal. who won the election. He wanted to di- within the Justice Department, and he Well, I have tried enough cases in State vide America, and lo and behold, he says there is no indication that all that and Federal court and in the Army was able to see the Fusion GPS, Chris- bias had anything to do with the out- that I know—and I have told people topher Steele, the Clinton campaign, comes of the cases. That is just gar- that were looking for lawyers in my DNC, they were able to take all this in- bage. He is being disingenuous. He days as a judge—I couldn’t recommend formation that were nothing but lies in wasn’t doing his job in his conclusions. a lawyer, but I would warn people—if the dossier—they have even given dos- And I know there were a lot of Repub- you ever hear a lawyer who tries cases sier a bad name—and divide America. licans that said, Yes, okay, but, boy, who says they can guarantee you a win And at least one political party in when he investigated, when that report in a trial, then that lawyer is either to- America has been totally willing to be comes out on Comey, it is going to end tally incompetent or is one of the big- complicit to help divide America over a up sending him to prison. gest liars in the legal profession. I bunch of lies in a dossier that was cre- Well, Comey did leak information don’t know which one this professor ated as political fodder when it became that he should not. He did keep docu- was. I got the impression she just real- very clear very quickly to those who ments that he was not permitted to ly didn’t know what she was talking had paid for the dossier that it was not keep. He secreted them, kept them about, because no one swears, Oh, yes, only not verifiable, the person that after he had left government service. I can guarantee you, you know, I can gathered the information didn’t really He is not allowed to do that. And the win this case at trial and on appeal. know the people, the Russians that biggest thing about those and whether That is not a good lawyer. That is gave him the lies about Donald Trump, or not they were felonies that would somebody who doesn’t know what they and that got taken before a FISA court put him in jail would be: Was this in- are talking about. to get a warrant to spy on a campaign; formation classified and at what level? What we have found now after thou- to wit, the Trump campaign. That is And we find out, you know, on page sands and thousands of interviews, sub- scary stuff; when one administration one and two of the Horowitz IG report, poenas, documents, millions of docu- can use the powers of the office of the FBI investigated, and the FBI de- ments, there was no crime. And the President, the Intel community, the termined that this wasn’t classified; reason there was no obstruction of jus- FBI, the Department of Justice, use all the FBI this and that. And you have to tice by President Trump or anybody those powers to destroy another cam- wait 40 pages to see who he means by that was assisting him is because the paign. And as Newt Gingrich has point- the FBI. Well, it turns out, the two President made very clear as soon as ed out, if Ms. Clinton had won, we most important people, because they he heard about some collusion, con- would have never known how corrupted had the most experience in analyzing spiracy, whatever you want to call it and weaponized the DOJ and FBI had documents to determine their classi- with Russia to rig the election, he become. fication level, it was a couple named knew he never colluded. He knew that And I know there are some of my Peter Strzok and Lisa Page. And he he never conspired, nor did anybody in friends here in Congress on our side of has the gall, Horowitz does, to even his campaign conspire with Russia to the aisle that think Michael Horowitz point out—to try to get more credi- affect the election. That never hap- is doing a good job, because look at all bility to Strzok and Page’s work on de- pened, and he knew it. the evidence of wrongdoing, bias, all ciding whether Comey should go to But he could see from what these 17 this that he has found. Well, if you prison, because they were classified at or so people on the special counsel’s look at the most recent report, just a high level. He said, Oh, but they had

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Michael Horowitz does not He swore and apparently verified the get a subpoena for emails and then need to be doing the investigation. application and affidavit information BleachBit, take all the stuff off so no- Maybe let him do the investigation, to go before the FISA court so he could body can ever see and then beat up but he doesn’t need to be doing the re- get a warrant to spy on the Trump with hammers cellphones and whatever ports. In a lot of places people would campaign, all while he was lying to the you need to, to destroy the evidence. say he doesn’t know sic ‘em from come President about him not being under That would seem to be a classic case of here when it comes to proper conclu- investigation and also trying to set the obstruction. sions. It is outrageous. President up by doing little memos. Fortunately, for people involved with And he justified not having them re- I hope and pray one of the things Hillary Clinton, it was Strzok and Page examined because time was of the es- that comes out of all this Department on the job, so they didn’t see anything, sence 2 years ago in 2017, back before of Justice, FBI, and intel abuse is a didn’t hear anything that might resem- Strzok and Page were fired. But not to practice the FBI has had for years. It is ble something that should be pros- worry, because a guy named Bill section 302, where FBI agents, after ecuted. Priestap was going to rubber stamp they do an interview, they sit down and But we end up today with this resolu- whatever Strzok and Page decided on type up their own version of what they tion that the majority passed without classifications. There was another unit chief. Didn’t think or what they recall a witness allowing any amendments, and they give us that name. That tells you said. Most of the ones I have seen over used this word ‘‘thwart,’’ that the something right there. the years in my different roles in the President used his official powers to But Priestap was supposed to have justice system appear to be very accu- thwart or attempt to thwart. Nobody the final decision, apparently rubber rate. But it is a problem when every has ever been convicted of thwarting. stamp whatever our experienced Strzok other local and State law enforcement You just can imagine, say the Demo- and Page decided when they knew full entity I am aware of, when they want crats got exactly what they wanted well if they classified things at a cer- credibility for a statement, they record and were able to impeach or charge tain level that it meant Jim Comey it. President Trump with thwarting an of- was going to prison. I saw it from juries in my court. ficial investigation. It goes to the Sen- So they did Comey a favor. And so ‘‘Look, you are telling us this is what ate. They get what they want, and then Horowitz, he didn’t want to have the defendant said. Why didn’t you President Trump is removed. Years them rereviewed for proper classifica- record it so we could see for ourselves, down the road, they say, ‘‘You used to tion away from the bias of Strzok and hear for ourselves, see the body lan- be President. You were removed? What Page and Priestap that—you know, guage?’’ were you removed for?’’ there were reports of him going to Lon- That is why local governments all ‘‘Well, I was a thwarter, apparently. I don trying to help out Steele’s credi- over the country have come up with have been branded a thwarter.’’ bility. billions of dollars altogether so that Maybe we ought to put a ‘‘T’’ on So Horowitz said time was of the es- they can make sure that they get video their head so everybody knows: Here sence, so nobody reconsidered the clas- and audio of someone being questioned, comes a thwarter. sification that the bigoted bias and so there is no question what they say. The only thing he was thwarting, if prejudice of Page and Strzok would not But not at the FBI. Oh, no. They will at all, is massive injustice from the be determinative. talk to a witness and then write out Justice Department. He knew he had And I know that people, Republicans, their own version of what is said. not conspired with anybody in Russia, many of them are saying, well, look, Thankfully, most of them do a great nor had anybody in his campaign. there is no question that McCabe lied, job, but it also allows unscrupulous The evidence has borne that out. perjured, he should end up going to FBI or DOJ officials, as now we have Even Mueller, Weissman, the people prison. But I am telling you as a his- seen existed under the Obama Justice who hated the President, had to come tory buff, a historian, if you would, it Department, it allows them to twist around to saying they couldn’t find is true. History is often the best indi- the FBI’s or the DOJ’s version of what any evidence of them conspiring with cator of what someone will do in the a witness says and use that, as they Russia. future. have thousands and thousands of Nonetheless, we still have to go b 1330 times, I don’t know how many times, through this hearing today, and I am The indications are that Obama’s IG, to convict people, saying, ‘‘This is sure there will be other hearings. Horowitz, will find some terrible what he said because I wrote it down in The truth is, President Donald things, but he will do it in such a way my own notes after I did the inter- Trump never obstructed or thwarted that he will give not only Comey, view.’’ justice. He knew that if there was true Strzok, and Page a get-out-of-jail-free ‘‘Really? Well, let’s see the video. justice, this effort to frame him for pass, but he will do that with McCabe Let’s hear the audio.’’ colluding with the Russians would be and with anybody else he is inves- ‘‘Well, we don’t do that at the FBI. found false and would be found to be a tigating, because that is his history. We only write down our version of frame-up job. He wanted justice. He knows which side his bread is but- what is said because we really would The DOJ could never convict some- tered on and who is doing the but- rather you hear our version and not the one of obstructing justice when all tering, who got him in the position he defendant’s version of what he said, be- they did was what they could to ensure is in. cause we get more credibility than any that an injustice did not occur. They We end up now being told, well, this defendant.’’ were seeking justice to make sure isn’t a formal impeachment hearing, At least that used to be the way it there wasn’t a successful frame-up. the investigation we started today in was. But I hope one of the things that That is not obstructing or thwarting the Judiciary Committee. Then, to- will come out of all of this is, in order justice. That is seeking justice. But ward the end of our hearing, we heard for the FBI to get back the credibility there certainly were people inside the from two different Democrats who they used to have as the greatest law DOJ who were doing what they could wanted to go on record to make it enforcement agency in the world, they to inflict an injustice on President very, very clear that this was an im- are going to need to start doing audio Trump. peachment hearing, an impeachment and video so that we can see what a So here we go into this impeachment investigation. witness said, hear what they said for exercise that started today. That is what it is. It is not just a res- ourselves, and so that juries can hear I think about those in England who olution for investigative procedures, as that and judges can see and hear that. would say, ‘‘God save the Queen,’’ ‘‘God it says here on the resolution. But we don’t have that here. save the King.’’ God save this Republic.

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We just have disagreements on seems like our air gets cleaner every and some of us knew this because we things. year. knew from other information that One of the most honorable people I I asked my staff to find a picture, as Rosenstein, the Acting Attorney Gen- ever knew in this body was chairman of best they could, that would reflect eral, did not just once say sarcasti- the Energy and Commerce Committee what we are talking about in ANWR in cally: I will wear a wire. I can get into back initially when Democrats took that tiny—well, relatively speaking, the White House. I will wear a wire and the majority in January 2007. He want- tiny area of ANWR where drilling record the President. ed socialized medicine. We disagreed on would be allowed. This is from Google Then, they could try to remove him that. But I knew the man’s heart. He Maps. This isn’t actually the area, but under the 25th Amendment for not wanted to help poor people. it looks like most of the area where being competent. They formulated a b 1345 drilling would be allowed. response to act like he was being sar- From time to time, there will be That is why he didn’t want to pass castic when everybody there knew he wildlife across this area, in the area the cap-and-trade bill, because he knew was not being sarcastic. where drilling would be allowed, but it would cause the price of energy to Apparently, from what I understood, they can’t stay because they can’t live skyrocket. And he knew it was a tough the reason he brought that up is be- there in that area. There is just not cause others there in the meeting were blow to the Nation’s poor, to our senior citizens on Medicare, but especially on enough to sustain life there. mad at him. They said: You have been As Jimmy Carter figured out, it is an Social Security, a fixed income. If you helping the President instead of help- ideal place to drill, and that is why start skyrocketing the price of energy ing us get the President. You wrote they designated it for that. But we to those folks, it is devastating. that memo that gave him a basis to have been waiting over 40 years to use fire Comey. Whose side are you on? That is why John did not want to pass the cap-and-trade bill. He wanted that as a place to even further reduce That is the kind of context where our cost of energy, which will also Rosenstein says: Look, I will wear a to do everything he could to help poor people. That was his nature. He knew if allow us to export energy, which means wire if you want. European countries don’t have to be He wanted to show that he was an you start doing this kind of stuff for the rich with energy prices—gasoline, blackmailed or extorted by Russia. Obama team player, a Sally Yates There is one country that hopes the team player, a Loretta Lynch team electricity, propane, and those things Democrats are very, very successful— player, that he was not a Trump team going up—it is an inconvenience, but well, of course, the OPEC nations. But player: I will even wear a wire and go for those on a fixed income, it is abso- Russia is probably the most hopeful in. lutely devastating. That wasn’t the only place he America, under the Trump adminis- that the Democrats are successful in brought it up. He brought it up at an- tration, has been allowed to gather up preventing us from getting the energy other meeting, such that McCabe went more of our own blessed energy that we have been blessed with in this back and told people: You know, sources. The economy gets better. area where you don’t have caribou or Rosenstein brought it up again. He still More people are working now than things, wildlife, like you do in other says he is willing to wear a wire. ever. Unemployment is the lowest it parts of ANWR. They don’t want us to That is because Rosenstein was try- has ever been for minorities since they drill because they know we will be able ing to convince them he was a good started recording those numbers. It is to get energy to Europe. And we won’t team player and would go set up and fantastic. Energy prices have come blackmail Europe. We won’t extort Eu- try to frame the President to help re- down low, and it has been stabilized be- rope the way that Putin often has, move him from office. cause we are finding so much of our countries that he supplies natural gas That is not all that has gone on this own energy and using it. to. week. We had the vote today. The We disagree about a lot of things on If we export that, we can help give House has voted to eliminate the tiny, both sides of the aisle. I don’t know more freedom to the world. We can little part of ANWR where Jimmy Car- anybody who serves in this body on ei- bring down our own prices even fur- ter said that drilling would be allowed. ther side of the aisle who doesn’t want ther. Why wouldn’t we do that? Now, this is Jimmy Carter who says a clean environment. But those who This picture was near the proposed everybody is supposed to wear a car- know our history of the world know exploration area. It is from Google digan and turn your temperature in that, if you have a struggling economy, Maps. It is taken on Dalton Highway, winter way down, wear a sweater, you the number one thing that suffers, be- just south of Prudhoe Bay. It is facing know, shiver a little bit. It is okay be- sides the people, is the environment. east towards the coastal area of the cause we are going to save energy. In China, that government, as big Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. So it Even he said it is right that part of and totalitarian as it can be, they is not right in the refuge, but it is a ANWR, that tiny, little part of that know if people get laid off and are not very fair representation of the coastal huge area, nothing is there, so it is not working, they could have another revo- areas found within the refuge. going to affect any wildlife, really, so lution, and they don’t want that. They It is actually a more accurate depic- that can be an area that can be drilled. are more concerned about people being tion of the proposed exploration area Since then, Democrats have done all busy and working and having money than the images that we have been see- they could to put it off-limits. Some- than they are about the environment. ing around here about the mountains times you see these pictures of all this In India, they are scared to death of and rainbows and all the herds of ani- wildlife, this beautiful, pristine area. too many people not being able to work mals. This is much more representative Well, if that is what you see, that isn’t or have income. than any of those types of pictures. the part of ANWR where drilling would We get all of this pollution from the I want to touch on one more thing be allowed. other side of the world. I heard today about the Russians meddling in our We can get a little perspective on the that 85 percent, somebody said, of the election. size. There was another poster up here pollution that we have in our atmos- Sean Hannity had a great article 11⁄2 somewhere. It has a map of how big phere is coming from these other coun- years ago, February of 2018. In there, Alaska is, and then it has the size of tries. When those countries’ economies he quotes from President Obama. ANWR. Then there is a red dot that are struggling, there is more pollution. President Obama said: ‘‘There is no se- you can’t see more than a few feet That is just the way it works, because rious person out there who would sug- away that is the tiny, little part, com- you just can’t help afford to clean up gest somehow that you could even rig paratively, where drilling would be al- the environment like we are and have America’s elections. There’s no evi- lowed. been in the United States. dence that that has happened in the

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But you can’t be Taliban and turns out they knew that the Russians but he had good security. not be Pashtun, as I understand it. were trying to meddle in our election. The Taliban, they may be crazy, they And anyway, she relied heavily on So why wouldn’t Obama try to stop the may be haters and want to kill all him. I talked to a guy who said he was Russians from meddling in our elec- Americans, but they are not stupid at part of the inner circle, and the deci- tion? He did nothing. all. They knew that if the United sion was: What kind of government are There is speculation that he knew States figured out that the 9/11 attack we going to give Afghanistan now that Hillary Clinton was going to win, and had originated in Afghanistan with al- we have destroyed the Taliban? Unfor- he was afraid if they started admitting Qaida and the Taliban, that the United tunately, that shouldn’t have been our what they knew was true—that Russia States would come to Afghanistan, and decision, but there were people who was trying to meddle in our elections— we would look for an Afghan leader said, Look, this is a Tribal country and and then Hillary Clinton won, it might that the people would rally behind, nothing would fit this area better than make her victory look suspect if they who could lead the country to destroy to have strong local and state or prov- talked about the effort they knew Rus- the Taliban. And they knew that would ince governments, and then it is a Fed- sia was engaged in to affect our elec- most likely be the Lion of Panjshir, eralist society where the national gov- tion. ernment is kind of an umbrella, but the But the truth is that Putin wants to the hero of the Afghan victory over real power is in the provinces and the divide America as much as he can. Di- Russia, Ahmad Shah Massoud. vide and conquer is what he hopes to A day or so before 9/11—I think it was local government. That is not what we did. The wrong do. And he has been successful. around 36 hours or so before—they had The Russians that they had who gave gotten Massoud to agree to an inter- people were listened to. And we pushed their lives to Christopher Steele, the view. His security people checked out a constitution through that gives the discredited former MI6 guy, that he the reporter, known reporter, the cam- power to the President, almost making provided to Fusion GPS that appar- eraman there, let him in, and, when him a dictator. The President is elect- ently the Clinton campaign and the they start the interview, the camera- ed in Afghanistan, but then he appoints DNC had hired, it has done what they man blows up the bomb in his camera the governors. He appoints the mayors. wanted. It has done what Putin want- and kills Massoud. He appoints the police chief. It just cut ed. It has adversely affected the Presi- If our intelligence people had been on the local folks and the province folks dent of the United States. It has di- top of their game, they would have out of governing themselves. vided our country, and it has pitted known something was about to happen. And as my friend Massoud said: You family against family. Something was about to happen for know, look, we know you are going to Someone once said that the last them to kill Massoud now, this na- end up having to pull out some day, so phase of a civil war involves guns, but tional hero. please help us get an amendment to we have been in a nonfirearm civil war Ahmad Shah Massoud has a brother, our constitution that allows each prov- for a while now. And this Mueller in- Ahmad Zia Massoud, and I think of ince to elect its own governor and al- vestigation—the whole Russia dossier, him as a friend. I hope he thinks the lows each city and town to elect their the lies in there about candidate, now same way. He fought with and under own mayor. Let us pick our own police President, Trump—the Russians, just his older brother. His brother used him chiefs, not somebody that Karzai, and like Putin wanted, have been success- as a diplomat, but he was one of many now Ghani who is President would ful in dividing this country. of the Northern Alliance. pick, but let us pick our own leaders. As of yesterday, being 9/11, we can The movie ‘‘12 Strong’’ shows Gen- And the reasoning I thought was very disagree, like John Dingell and I did, eral Dostum that we got after 9/11, get- sound. He said, when America leaves but I loved the guy. He was a brilliant, ting around October, got other tribal Afghanistan with this strong central caring, honorable man of integrity. We groups to agree to fight with Dostum government where the President has have those on both sides of the aisle. as the leader. Some of them weren’t all power, all I have got to do is either You have some that you have got to be happy, but they agreed. And we pro- knock off or corrupt the President, and careful on both sides. But there are vided air cover, and we provided weap- they are right back in charge of Af- people on both sides of the aisle; and ons for them. ghanistan. we can work together because they are The Taliban hate Americans, so they b 1400 honest, honorable people, and we can are going to come kill a bunch more disagree when we need to. We have 300 or so, as I have under- once they take back over Afghanistan. I need to touch on, before we finish stood it, special ops, Special Forces, And then you are going to have to the week here, of course, we have seen CIA, in there, and only our guys could come back and Americans die all over in the news Afghanistan peace talks call down bombs and direct them at again for nothing. with the Taliban broke down. The specific targets. If you will simply allow us to have Taliban continue to kill Americans, Between the weapons we provided the that local provincial power so we elect and they are going to continue to kill Afghans, the bomb support from B–52s our own leaders and not have them ap- Americans. It is who they are. It is 40,000 or so feet up, the Northern Alli- pointed from Kabul, then, yeah, maybe what they are. ance, our Afghan Muslim allies, they the Taliban gets one or two provinces, In my trips to Afghanistan and other destroyed the organized Taliban, with- but the rest of us can rise up like we places, I made friends with some of in—some say, maybe it was March, but did before and defeat the Taliban those Muslims who were part Afghan, February, March of 2002. Without a sin- again, and you don’t have to have Muslims who were part of the Northern gle American casualty, we defeated the Americans die like you have for all of Alliance. It is no longer called the Taliban. these years. Northern Alliance. But these were Then I think it was a mistake. We That made sense. But the only trou- Muslim friends of the United States. were considered heroes. We came in. ble is, the guy that helped get Afghani- They just wanted their freedom. They We helped get rid of the Taliban that a stan this ridiculous constitution that are Muslims, but they did not want majority of Afghanistan did not want has created basically a totalitarian ruthless totalitarians like the Taliban running the country. And then we Presidency, that is who was negoti- running their country. came in and started what appeared to ating with the Taliban. There are ru- The enemy of our enemy were people be occupying. And that probably could mors that he wanted to be President of we could work with. Unfortunately, our have been okay if we could have helped Afghanistan at one time himself, but

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Then there isn’t going to be anybody There was no objection. It makes no sense. But we have peo- in Afghanistan who will be able to f ple from the Bush administration stand up and fight against the Taliban. through the Obama administration. On top of that, even if there were, they SENATE BILL REFERRED Khalilzad is still being listened to, and wouldn’t want to cut a deal with us, be- A bill of the Senate of the following he wanted to do this deal with the cause they will have seen the way the title was taken from the Speaker’s Pashtun brothers, the Taliban. Northern Alliance risked lives and lost table and, under the rule, referred as We don’t need to be dealing with our lives to help us defeat the Taliban. follows: enemies. We need to be dealing with What do we do? Do we leave them our allies. And this was one of the S. 178. An act to condemn gross human high and dry? Do we allow the Taliban rights violations of ethnic Turkic Muslims in great dangers, by rejecting those who to come in and kill them when we go? Xinjiang, and calling for an end to arbitrary lost family members, risked their own No. No. We need to be talking to our detention, torture, and harassment of these lives to help us take out the Taliban, friends who fought with us and got rid communities inside and outside China; to the eliminate the organized Taliban origi- of all of the organized Taliban by Feb- Committee on Foreign Affairs; in addition, nally, without a single loss of Amer- ruary or March of 2002 before we be- to the Permanent Select Committee on In- ican life, why wouldn’t we want to put came occupiers, more or less. telligence; and to the Committee on the Ju- diciary for a period to be subsequently deter- them in positions of power? They can There needs to be a Federalist sys- get elected, if we just—I said to mined by the Speaker, in each case for con- tem there, and we need our friends, our sideration of such provisions as fall within Massoud: What makes you think we allies who fought the Taliban and don’t the jurisdiction of the committee concerned. could help you amend your constitu- want them back in positions of author- tion? ity. And I think President Ghani would f And he said: You are still paying for be willing to do that, but, you know, BILL PRESENTED TO THE most of our government operations. If deep state just keeps getting deeper. PRESIDENT you threaten to pull out all of that We need to negotiate with our friends, money prematurely, yeah, we will so they are in a position to help our en- Cheryl L. Johnson, Clerk of the change the constitution. But we need emies not get back in control to kill House, reported that on September 11, your help to do it, so you don’t have to Americans again. 2019, she presented to the President of keep losing American lives here in Af- Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance the United States, for his approval, the ghanistan. of my time. following bill: It made so much sense. But, unfortu- H.R. 831. To direct the Secretary of Trans- nately, the deep state just continues to f portation to request nominations for and be deep and Khalilzad has been part of REQUESTING RETURN OF S. 1790, make determinations regarding roads to be that from the beginning. He seemed designated under the national scenic byways NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZA- program, and for other purposes. like a nice guy when I met him in Iraq TION ACT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2020 back in 2005. He seemed like a nice guy. f The SPEAKER pro tempore laid be- He is just the wrong person to be lis- fore the House the following privileged tened to. ADJOURNMENT Americans have continued to be message from the Senate: Mr. GOHMERT. Mr. Speaker, I move killed while he has been wanting to Resolved, That the Secretary of the Senate that the House do now adjourn. have peace talks with the Taliban, not be directed to request the House of Rep- The motion was agreed to; accord- resentatives to return to the Senate the bill with the northern or former Northern (S. 1790) entitled ‘‘An Act to authorize appro- ingly (at 2 o’clock and 9 minutes p.m.), Alliance people who risked their lives priations for fiscal year 2020 for military ac- under its previous order, the House ad- and lost family members fighting with tivities of the Department of Defense, for journed until tomorrow, Friday, Sep- us and for us. Oh, no, we are not going military construction, and for defense activi- tember 13, 2019, at 9 a.m. h BUDGETARY EFFECTS OF PAYGO LEGISLATION Pursuant to the Statutory Pay-As-You-Go Act of 2010 (PAYGO), Mr. YARMUTH hereby submits, prior to the vote on passage, the attached estimate of the costs of H.R. 1146, the Arctic Cultural and Coastal Plain Protection Act, for printing in the CONGRESSIONAL RECORD.

ESTIMATE OF PAY-AS-YOU-GO EFFECTS FOR H.R. 1146 (RULES COMMITTEE PRINT 116–30)

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EXECUTIVE COMMUNICATIONS, 2069. A letter from the Alternate OSD 801(a)(1)(A); Public Law 104-121, Sec. 251; (110 ETC. FRLO, Office of the Secretary, Department Stat. 868); to the Committee on Armed Serv- of Defense, transmitting the Department’s ices. final rule — Recoupment of Nonrecurring Under clause 2 of rule XIV, executive 2070. A letter from the Special Agent, Costs (NCs) on Sales of U.S. Items [Docket communications were taken from the Chief, Policy Branch, Department of the Speaker’s table and referred as follows: ID: DOD-2018-OS-0088] (RIN: 0790-AK24) re- ceived August 23, 2019, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. Army, Department of Defense, transmitting

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