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Review Of Swarthmore College Works Classics Faculty Works Classics 2006 Review Of "Thucydides And Pindar: Historical Narrative And The World Of Epinikian Poetry" By S. Hornblower Rosaria Vignolo Munson Swarthmore College, [email protected] Follow this and additional works at: https://works.swarthmore.edu/fac-classics Part of the Classics Commons Recommended Citation Rosaria Vignolo Munson. (2006). "Review Of "Thucydides And Pindar: Historical Narrative And The World Of Epinikian Poetry" By S. Hornblower". Journal Of Hellenic Studies. Volume 126, 171-172. https://works.swarthmore.edu/fac-classics/8 This work is brought to you for free by Swarthmore College Libraries' Works. It has been accepted for inclusion in Classics Faculty Works by an authorized administrator of Works. For more information, please contact [email protected]. HISTORY 171 argument: his writings have always privileged construc­ I am not well placed to estimate the impact of this tion of proofs over mere evocation of the past. book on the French readers for whom it is intended; but But let there be no mistake. The subject-matter here R. writes with elan, with eloquence and with a deep is just as much Persian history as attempts to decode the love of the subject, and gives an attractive account of Apadana, the Daiva inscription, or the qanats of the some of the achievements of fifth-century Athens. Western Desert, and the future of Achaemenid studies (Sadly, she holds to the old view of the fourth century needs the accumulated wisdom of classical scholarship as a time of decline.) On a few small details she might as well as the temptation of Assyriologists or be corrected, but to pursue them would be to read the Egyptologists into unfashionably late periods. For book in the wrong spirit. It is a little more disturbing Achaemenid specialists from a classical background, that, although she seems to regard Thucydides' speech­ non-Greek material has an exotic allure - and a greater es as his own creation rather than to any extent as an potential for producing genuinely new evidence. But attempt to report what was said, she accepts (for critical understanding of the comparatively familiar can instance) his distinction between Pericles and later be just as challenging, and C. is a master of that art. politicians in a way which even to a reader of my gen­ CHRISTOPHER TUPLIN eration seems somewhat innocent. University of Liverpool Beyond that, readers of JHS will know that I have misgivings about the tendency to regard everything that ROMILLY (J. de) L'Eian democratique dans is attested for democratic Athens as specifically a prod­ I' Athenes ancienne. Paris: Editions de Fallois, uct of the Athenian democracy (see JHS 123 (2003) 2005. Pp. 156. €16. 2877065561. I 04-19). R. accepts that what she has focused on in Athens in the second half of the fifth century can be De Romilly has been writing on Greek history and lit­ found in embryo in earlier, including non-Athenian, lit­ erature for some sixty years. Her latest book is erature, but she attributes specifically to the Athenian addressed to readers to whom she apologizes for using democracy the kind of argument which she has praised the occasional Greek word and giving the occasional in her second chapter and the use of myth which she has specific reference to a Greek text. After a short intro­ praised in her third. Of course Thucydides and duction on the appearance of isegoria and demokratia Euripides were Athenian, and Athens had councils, in Athens, she provides three main chapters. The first is assemblies and lawcourts in which rational arguments devoted to decision-making by an assembly in which all were deployed - but many of the sophists were not citizens could speak and vote (and R. points out to those Athenians; other states, too, had councils, assemblies who complain of the exclusion of women that, when and lawcourts, if not organized on the same basis as in she was young, women still could not vote in France). Athens; and Thucydides represents Greeks from many The dangers of government by mass meeting stimulate cities as arguing in very much the same way. We have thought about political issues; Thucydides and virtually no literature of the late fifth century from out­ Euripides show us the height to which debating had side Athens (there is Gorgias' Helen, which R. men­ risen by the end of the fifth century. In ch.2 R. passes tions), but I wonder how far the intellectual achieve­ from the assembly to the lawcourts, where there was not ment of the generation of Thucydides and Euripides, the free-for-all of the assembly but a pair of timed and attractively described in this book, was in fact distinc­ opposed speeches, and she sees the influence of the tively Athenian and democratic. judicial model in Thucydides and Euripides, in their P.J. RHODES own speeches and in the way in which they seek to University of Durham establish causes and responsibilities. Ch.3 is concerned specifically with tragedy, and in it R. argues that the HORNBLOWER (S.) Thucydides and Pindar. tragedians increasingly left the exotic and monstrous Historical Narrative and the World of Epinikian elements of myth out of their plays (except in the com­ Poetry. Oxford UP, 2004. Pp. xv + 454, illus. £60. ments of the choruses) and focused on the human prob­ 0199249199. lems arising out of the stories, whereas recent French literature dealing with the myths is once more interest­ None of the honorands of epinician poetry or their rela­ ed in the exotic and monstrous. R. has already insisted tions appear in Thucydides. Nevertheless, Hornblower that Classical Athens offers us principles, not models to argues that Thucydides and Pindar are heirs to the same follow. In her conclusion she asks what lessons can be cultural and literary traditions, share similar values, and learned by today's France, increasingly alienated from even employ comparable narrative techniques. The political involvement and feelings of community; and book is divided into two parts, treating respectively his­ she commends two organizations with which she has torical parallels and intertextual connections. In Part I, been involved, L 'elan nouveau des citoyens, which the introductory chapter begins by discussing the reli­ seeks to encourage manifestations of communal spirit at gious and political significance of athletic games, as grass-roots level, and Sauvegarde des enseignements well as the origins and attested beginnings of epinician litteraires, which champions the study of classical liter­ poetry. After discussing the possibility of whether ature for its moral and intellectual effects. Thucydides may have known Pindar's work directly in 172 REVIEWS OF BOOKS ch.2 (evidence for epinician poetry in Thucydides is chapter in fact ends with a digression on Herodotus' only indirect), H. examines a number of non-athletic narrative about Dorieus in Book 5, where the linear his­ Pindaric topics that also occur in Thucydides' narrative torical progress is derailed by 'honour-conscious ... or speeches (ch.3). These include hesychia (i.e. elite individuals'. The latter represent a Pindaric cate­ 'peace', in public discourse), (royal) power, and medi­ gory that includes, among others, the Thucydidean cine or medical metaphors applied to political circum­ Alcibiades. stances (see the medical theme in Pythian 4, both in the In ch.9, on 'Antiquarian "excursuses"', H. shows myth and in the culminating exhortation to Arcesilas of that some of Thucydides' digressions (e.g. on the Cyrene to restore the exiled Damophilos). Other com­ Peisistratids at 6.54-9) are as daring and elusive as mon themes are hope and ambition, leading to stasis or Pindaric myths or equally paradigmatic. Similarly, in exile. Ch.4 considers the mythical element: here spite of the fact that Pindar and Thucydides use direct Thucydides and Pindar intersect very little, except when speeches ( ch.l 0) in remarkably different ways, both it comes to colonization, since Thucydides is remarkably authors like to contrast action and thought (or speech) interested in the origins of Greek Mediterranean settle­ and give their speakers a tendency to generalize. ments and Pindar's athletes are often also oikists. So, for Thucydidean speeches, moreover, are the most likely example, H. sets Pindar's narrative ofTlepolemos' colo­ places where we find metaphor, which is of course a nization of Rhodes in Olympian 7 side by side with pervasive phenomenon in both Pindar and Bacchylides. Thucydides' unusually poetic account of how Alcmaeon Ch.ll begins as a study of narrative (as opposed to came to settle at the mouth of the Achelous in Acamania the previously examined narratorial interventions and after the murder of his mother (2.1 05.5). speeches) from a narratological viewpoint, including Ch.5, which concludes Part I and is the longest of an interesting point about the focalization of the book (144 pages), surveys in geographical order Thucydides' account of the last battle in the harbour of cities and individuals celebrated or mentioned in Syracuse. The rest of the discussion, however, mainly Pindar's (and Bacchylides') epinician and other poetry. singles out certain sections in Thucydides that are The connections with Thucydides that this prosopo­ Pindaric in subject-matter or vocabulary, especially in graphical tour de force reveals are few and far between. the Sicilian books. The last chapter (ch.l2) considers The most striking is represented by the family of the judgement of ancient critics who, unlike most mod­ Diagoras of Rhodes, the honorand of Olympian 7, em ones, have explicitly drawn parallels between whose son, Dorieus, plays a rather prominent role in Thucydides and Pindar by virtue of their similarly ele­ Thucydides' narrative (3.81, 8.44). There is little else at vated language (Marcel linus) or 'austere style' this specific factual level, though Pindar and (Dionysius of Halicamassus ).
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