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August 24, 1989 Hansard Evening LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF SASKATCHEWAN August 24, 1989 EVENING SITTING very evident, Mr. Speaker, in the kinds of privatization deals that we’ve seen, the kind of sweetheart deals that we’ve seen during SECOND READINGS the tenure of this government. Bill No. 94 — An Act respecting Representation in the To say that there has been enough public input into this whole Legislative Assembly (continued) process, Mr. Speaker, is an absolute falsehood, and the minister knows it. His defence is weak; in fact it’s offensive to the people Mr. Pringle: — Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. of Saskatchewan to be so misleading. This government did not Speaker, I wish to join my caucus and my leader who spoke very intend there to be public input, the same way they did not want eloquently before our break about why we condemn this blatant, public input on SaskEnergy where they’re clearly going against undemocratic electoral boundaries legislation. There’s just no the will of the people. They did not want public input on the other way to describe it, Mr. Speaker. And I’m saddened as I Potash Corporation of Saskatchewan. They would not accept stand here tonight because this legislation or this Bill moves us a public input on the ward system during the last session. They do step closer to boundaries in Saskatchewan that are going to be not care what the average or the ordinary resident of very undemocratic, and I think that anyone in the province, which Saskatchewan thinks. includes most people, who are concerned about democracy, will be upset when they understand the full implications of this Bill The PC government is not interested in accountability, Mr. before us. Speaker. We’ve seen this with GigaText — we can’t get any answers from them. We’ve seen this in the secret privatization I’m also saddened, Mr. Speaker, to see at this point such a deals, in the SEDCO fiascos, and the minister refusing to answer desperate government once again chipping away at the questions. This has been reflected in the Provincial Auditor’s democratic traditions in this province. And we’ve seen this report, a very damning report, Mr. Speaker, where the response during the whole session where they’ve withheld information, of the government, with the blessing of the Premier, was to attack important information that we needed to know here in order to be the auditor, an officer of this Assembly, Mr. Speaker, again never an effective opposition. done before except last year by the same Minister of Justice. We’ve seen their concern about not being accountable, the way They have continued the practice this session of late filing of they’ve broken their own laws, as pointed out by the auditor, by annual reports, they’ve made unparalleled unilateral rule changes the securities commission action. which have never before happened in this Assembly, Mr. Speaker, and of course, as my leader had pointed out, they This government defends the 25 per cent variable drawing on the invoked closure, which not only had never been done before in B.C. decision. Now I’m not going to get into that tonight. I did this Assembly, it had never even been contemplated by an Allan that on Tuesday, and the Leader of the Opposition dealt with that Blakeney or a Tommy Douglas, or the member from Saskatoon very effectively today. The essence of what was important there Riversdale, or Ross Thatcher. That had never been contemplated is the thing that the government has missed, the point that they’ve before, but we’ve seen this government, for the first time, very missed, and that is that the issue of fairness in voting is ultimate deliberately try and muzzle the opposition. and that democracy is very precious and must be reserved at all costs, Mr. Speaker. And this government reminds us on a daily Now of course, we have the ultimate act of this chipping away at basis that democracy is also very fragile in the province of democracy, the ultimate act of the erosions that we’ve seen, that Saskatchewan. we’ve come to expect from this government. And that is the deliberate and the blatant rigged boundaries for the PCs’ own If the PC government was sincere about this legislation to political purposes, Mr. Speaker. gerrymander the electoral boundaries, they would have kept the independent boundaries commission, which they did not do. If The government is not even embarrassed about the discrepancies they were sincere, they would not have tied the hands of the in the report in this legislation. The minister from Melfort says boundaries commission by prescribing and dictating all of the that the boundaries are fair. And he was very proud of this. He’s rules and conditions for the commission. If the government was mentioned that three times now . two times now, once in the sincere, why didn’t the government follow the past practice of motion and once today. Any objective analysis shows, Mr. letting the commission make the recommendations regarding Speaker, it’s very clear that it’s fair all right, but it’s much fairer such things as the number of ridings there should be, the to the Tories than it is to anybody else. urban-rural make-up, and the population shifts and trends, and so on. If they were sincere, they would have allowed more public The government says that . In fact the minister said more than involvement than they did, rather than two weeks during last enough, there’s been more than enough public input. Well their summer when people were on holidays and now debating this at idea of public input, Mr. Speaker, as we’ve seen in this session, the last moment again when people are on holidays. is to call George Hill or John Remai or Cargill or the big banks and say: boys, what would you like us to do for you today? What I identified some of those people who were against this kind of way can we be helpful to you? We’re your legislation, Mr. Speaker, on Tuesday when I spoke on the motion, representatives. We’re not the representatives of ordinary and I’m talking about people who are considered experts in average citizens. We’re your representatives. It must have been constitutional law and in politics and political 4569 August 24, 1989 science. People like retired Professor Ward, who’s well-knows In rural Saskatchewan, Humboldt — happens to be an NDP seat in the province, who said that this commission was not — 51 per cent more voters than the PC seat of Morse, Mr. independent, that he would not even sit on it because it was so Speaker. Again, why a 4,000-voter difference? One has to ask controlled by the government. Professor Leeson from the that question — two rural seats, Again, we could take Humboldt, University of Regina said that the legislation was unfair. 3,000 more voters than Thunder Creek. Why a 3,000-vote Professor McConnell, the constitutional law lawyer, an expert by difference, Mr. Speaker? One’s held by a NDP member; one’s Canadian standards, said that this legislation likely violates the held by a Progressive Conservative member. Charter of Rights and Freedoms, and if a court case were held, which may be the result of this legislation, that it would likely be This is not equal representation. This is not representative successful, Mr. Speaker. democracy. The most unchanged urban constituency in Regina, and by far the smallest, is the Regina Plains constituency held by So there are many others who are concerned about legislation, the Minister or Urban Affairs. Now he’s been pretty touchy in but the experts basically have shown that this whole process was the debate on the motion, and no wonder. He should be a sham. The public did, by the representations that were embarrassed about that kind of discrepancy, Mr. Speaker. It’s the identified in the report. In fact, the report itself, on page 1, the smallest riding, almost, in the entire province. It’s certainly the commission felt the need to clarify that there were restrictions smallest urban riding in Regina here. placed on it. So I think that’s a sign, Mr. Speaker, that there are serious concerns, as expressed by experts in the general And the interesting thing is, of the two additional constituencies population, and I think that these concerns should have been the minister said there’s been one new constituency in both taken seriously. But we have the government that’s so desperate Regina and Saskatoon. Well coincidentally, and with a bit of that it has ignored the concerns that have been raised by people creative drawing, it just so happens that, based on the 1986 of Saskatchewan. election results, the PCs would have taken both of those seats. Now I find that more than coincidental as well, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in the final analysis, I think the important questions have to be: has the public been better served by this boundary Well of course that doesn’t speak to the 1990 election. They did report; has representative democracy improved; is there more it based on ’86 results. In the 1990 election that gerrymandering equity in the constituency numbers? Well as my colleague said, was the kind of thing that will result in this government being to all of those the questions the answer is clearly no, Mr. Speaker. thrown out, Mr. Speaker. But there was never been any intention that the boundaries be fair.
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