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Navajo Basket Weavers Footage Navajo Basket Weavers Footage - Disc 1 Transcription - Elsie Stone Holiday -Started weaving around 1985; learned from her mother-in-law, Betty White Holiday -Makes works to be sold at Twin Rocks and other places as well -Uses commercial fabric dyes -Started by experimenting with geometric (abstract) patterns before going to faces and figural designs. -Some designs come from Steve, some from Damian Jim, some from photographs or magazines, some are Elsie’s own. But Elsie does still weave traditional baskets. General Thoughts [0:25] --Elsie gives her clan names. [1:30] “First, when I was in high school, I made a couple of Navajo rugs. When I married into the Holiday family, I didn’t know anything about basket weaving…so I watched them weave and I got interested in it and I wanted to try it. And I tried it, and my first basket actually came out good. It was fun, so I decided to do it, and do it, and do it, and now I can’t stop! … [My first basket was] a traditional wedding basket.” [2:30] “When I was in high school I used to be an artist. I did a lot of drawing, and putting colors together. It was already in my mind, it was already in my head, and I wondered how it would look on a basket. So I tried it on a basket, and it really worked out good … That’s how my father’s side of the family is, they’re really artistic. So its probably in my blood.” [11:20] “I always want to try a difficult design on a basket, and see if it will work. And most of it does; its hard though! I don’t draw out my designs like some of the basket weavers; they sketch it first. Its all up here, and I figure, ‘this is going to go there,’ its already drawing in my mind…I’m always looking for different designs. Always want to try something different, maybe a little bit harder. The barrel is really hard to do. It’s hard, but for me it’s easy. Sometimes it comes out not the way I wanted. When that happens I don’t want to work on it. I just toss it away and start another one…But then my elderly family say, ‘you can’t just start out a basket and leave it lying around. You have to undo it.’ So when I have free time I just undo it.” [14:00] --Certain designs (ie. not making a “way out”) will begin to cause Elsie problems like headaches, dizziness, and poor vision: “Every two years I’m supposed to have a beauty ceremony done on me, with the corn pellet, where they pray for me. Right now I’m like that, I need to get that ceremony done again…I used to pray to my basket; put a corn pellet on it and pray to it to not give me problems, but lately I haven’t been doing that. So there is a lot of things that I’m not supposed to do on a basket, that I did…that’s why I need to get that beauty ceremony done so they can clear it all off again, and start it fresh…This one’s ok; all the colors are out [outward]. They told me that [having a closed off color pathway?] shuts your mind, where you can’t think. That’s why I used a corn pellet and pray to my basket…” [19:00] --It is easier for Elsie to make larger baskets, rather than smaller ones. “On a bigger basket the pattern is easier. If you’re doing it on a small one it’s going to be really hard, you have to bunch the design together.” [58:00] -- Flat vs. round/3-dimensional—designs for rugs are translated into rounded baskets. “It is different, the barrel and the bow designs have to come out different. On the flat one, see how it starts off small—actually it’s easier to do on a barrel and a bow, because the flat one is harder when you have to start the design real small…[a bowl] just comes into shape by itself, I don’t have to do anything.” Specific Baskets - Descriptions [3:30] ‘Changing Woman Basket’ (set of 3) “[This basket] is a story to our Navajo tradition; our elderlies told a story about a changing woman a way back, a long time ago when there were not many people. They were saying that animals and insects were people then; they were like gods. She was actually the first lady. Changing woman is a woman that can change to whatever she wants; if she wants to change into a rock, or water. That’s what a changing woman is. She’s the one that gave birth to those twins [Hero Twins] that visit the father sun. And the black side is the night and the white side is the day. “To me the changing woman on the black side where the bun is, that’s the lady side, and the other side, that’s the man, with the hair is just hanging down. This one I did like, elderly and young. The white hair is the elderly.” -- The basket was inspired by a Helen Hardin image. It is characterized by dualities (night/day, male/female, young/old). Appropriately, Changing Woman gave birth to Hero Twins: “one of them was the sun’s son, one of them was the water’s son.” [21:50] ‘Beauty/Medicine Turtle’ -- Elsie puts Damian Jim’s patterns and designs into turtle images. “They call me turtle lady. I like doing turtle baskets.” This basket incorporates the beauty ceremony into turtle imagery. Elsie tried to ask her father—Robert June Blackhorse, a medicine man— about any meaning behind turtles. “There’s not really a story to the turtle, but the shell, they use it in [traditional Navajo] ceremony a lot.” [25:00] ‘Elderly Tree’ “[This comes from] Steve again. I think he got it out of a magazine…This one is really hard. He’s always telling me to do another one, and I don’t really like doing it, maybe because there’s no color in it. It’s not really fun to me. I like to work with colors…This tree, I call it my elderly tree, where there’s roots and it grows where it gets old and dry, that’s why I call it my elderly tree.” “That’s one thing I’m not supposed to do, overstitch with the red. I kind of got in trouble for doing that. I don’t really ask about it, I just do it, and one time my dad saw that I ended with the red overstitch: ‘you’re not supposed to do that! Only bad people, like witches, do their stuff with red around it, like the sun’…There’s a lot of things that I’m not supposed to do it that I did and got in trouble for it.” [31:50] ‘Concentric Set’ “[These are from] Damian. They’re all the same [pattern] but I just change [the colors] around…” Black is Elsie’s favorite color to work with. “I don’t really like white, it gets dirty. Red, it bleeds, it gets onto another color. And the rest of the colors I like: I like to use yellow and blue, but Steve and buyers, they don’t like the colors blue and yellow…for the background [they want darker backgrounds]. And I found out when you are dying your laces, you put a cup of salt in there, that way the color doesn’t bleed.” [36:00] ‘Blue Hair Chief’ -- The Dine’e don’t have chiefs, so this design is not from her own family/clan (tribal cross-pollination). Copied from a picture that came out of a magazine, there were a lot of colors that caught her eye. Apparently Elsie is one of the few weavers who do full facial designs. Oval shaped baskets work best for picturing faces. “Its really hard to start off an oval. I didn’t know how to do that, the oval shape, it was my brother-in-law, he weaved a lot, Henry Holiday. He’s the one that showed me how to start off an oval…Its hard to do. I struggle when I start an oval, but then the design really works on an oval basket for a face, or a butterfly.” [59:45] ‘Spider Basket’ “This one basket I did actually it was in my dream…Actually it wasn’t my dream, it was my husband Peter, he’s the one that dreamed about it. He told me the next day, ‘I dreamed a basket, you made it like this, and it sold for so much money! You should try it!’ And actually I didn’t know how he dreamed about it, so he drew it for me, and it came together, this is how its going to work, this will be the web…The first lid I did didn’t have that [handle?], it was just flat, and I thought this would look nicer… “I got bitten by a spider a long time [ago], when I was like 20 years old, and I got these rashes all over me, and I couldn’t sleep. I had it for two days, I even went to a clinic and they gave me a shot, it didn’t help. So I ended up going to my grandpa, he passed on, he was a medicine man, he made an herb for me for a spider [bite], and I drank it.
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