Potential Land Use and Code Amendments Survey

1. What is you age?

Response Response

Percent Count

15 – 20 7.7% 176

21 – 30 51.4% 1,168

31 – 40 16.2% 368

41 – 50 13.4% 305

50+ 11.2% 254

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2. Gender

Response Response

Percent Count

Female 41.9% 951

Male 58.1% 1,320

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1 of 246 3. Where do you live?

Response Response

Percent Count

Boulder 74.7% 1,696

Within 20 miles of Boulder 13.1% 298

In the Denver Metro area, more 6.6% 151 than 20 miles from Boulder

Outside of Colorado 5.5% 126

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4. What is you connection to Boulder? (Choose all that apply)

Response Response

Percent Count

Resident 56.2% 1,272

Business owner 8.2% 186

Employee in Boulder 38.2% 865

Student in Boulder 42.5% 962

Come to Boulder for fun 20.5% 465

Don’t, live, work or play in Boulder, 1.6% 36 just interested

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2 of 246 5. Do you think alcohol over consumption is a problem in Boulder?

Response Response

Percent Count

Yes 24.6% 559

No 75.4% 1,712

Why yes or no? Please explain: 1,291

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6. If one exists, what do you think is the primary negative impact on the community as a result of over consumption of alcohol? Or indicate if you feel there aren’t major negative impacts.

Response Response

Percent Count

Unclean neighborhoods 2.1% 48

Disorderly or unlawful conduct 14.3% 324

Noise 5.5% 125

Unsafe neighborhoods 3.6% 82

There are some negative impacts, but they aren’t very 45.4% 1,031 significant and are often exaggerated.

Overconsumption isn’t a problem in 29.1% 661 Boulder.

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3 of 246 7. In your opinion, what is typically the primary location of over consumption of alcohol in Boulder?

Response Response

Percent Count

Specific businesses (bars, 6.0% 136 restaurants and/or stores)

Private residences (house 54.6% 1,240 parties)

University campus 5.6% 128

Other locations (please specify 3.9% 88 below)

All of the above 7.5% 171

None of the above 22.4% 508

Comments: 498

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4 of 246 8. Do you think that the impacts related to over consumption of alcohol are concentrated in a specific area? Multiple location? If so, where? (Choose all that apply)

Response Response

Percent Count

The problems of over consumption 11.5% 261 are citywide.

Downtown Boulder 3.5% 79

University Hill commercial district 2.7% 61

University Hill residential areas 24.5% 556

Downtown Boulder and University 12.7% 288 Hill

Over consumption of alcohol 45.2% 1,026 isn’t a problem in Boulder.

I feel the problems are concentrated somewhere else in Boulder, they are concentrated: 196

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9. Would you support additional zoning regulations for businesses that sell alcohol or operate after 11 p.m.?

Response Response

Percent Count

Yes 13.8% 314

No 86.2% 1,957

Please explain: 832

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5 of 246 10. If the city were pursue additional tools to address alcohol over consumption - what would you choose?

Response Response

Percent Count

Increase police enforcement in 24.0% 545 residential neighborhoods

Increase police enforcement in 12.2% 277 business districts

Use existing zoning regulations more effectively (i.e. use city 16.3% 371 authority to revoke Use Review approvals for problem businesses?)

Address problem business establishments that don’t comply 25.4% 577 with operating agreements or city approval conditions

Restrict the sale of hard alcohol in some areas of town (e.g., permit 3.9% 89 only beer and wine liquor licenses)

All of the above 3.7% 85

None of the above; I don’t believe over consumption of 51.1% 1,160 alcohol is a problem in Boulder.

Other (please specify): 389

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6 of 246 7 of 246 Q5. Do you think alcohol over consumption is a problem in Boulder?

1 While there may be some cases of over consumption in Boulder, I don't think it is Dec 2, 2012 1:57 PM more than any other typical city nor do I feel alcohol consumption negatively affects my life or the lives of other people I know in Boulder.

2 I think--for some--college can be a time to test and learn limits. There are some Dec 1, 2012 7:44 PM cultures within Boulder that seem to glorify drunkenness, but the campus itself certainly doesn't foster this attitude. Maybe drinking is one way students feel they are exercising new liberties, and because they're unaccustomed to self- regulation, they overstep physical and social boundaries because they have not yet been set.

3 It's a college town and a draw of it. People like to party and just because a few Nov 30, 2012 6:52 PM might abuse it doesn't mean everyone else have to be punished. Punish them.

4 I do not consider alcohol consumption in bars a problem. It is worse if people Nov 30, 2012 4:08 PM drink at home and then leave the house to go to clubs and bars as it then is free, unlimited, and unobserved.

5 It's college, a lot of people that age in that surrounding have drinking problems. Nov 30, 2012 4:03 PM The drinking problem is related to the age group, not the particular university. Underage drinking is the biggest issue because kids are away from home without supervision.

6 because a very high majority of the population knows how to engage in safe Nov 30, 2012 3:34 PM drinking habits and take all necessary precautions.

7 I think you are going to have that problem anytime you have a University. As far Nov 30, 2012 2:02 PM as over service, I think restaurants and the City of Boulder have done a good job controling this.

8 In my experience living near downtown (22nd and Canyon), I have not seen Nov 30, 2012 12:12 PM much of a problem. I know that might not be the case in other areas. In my experience living in various cities and college areas, overconsumption is typically underage drinkers.Regarding question 6, I think primary negative impacts of overconsumption are unclean neighborhoods, disorderly conduct, and noise, all of which are major concerns. However, I see the negative impact coming from partying at private residences.

9 Like any town there are a few who may over drink but for the most part I think its Nov 30, 2012 11:19 AM people enjoying themselves responsibly. As a resident of the hill area I enjoy being able to walk over and have a beer before a game or grab a drink with a friend.

10 It is a college town. What do you expect? Nov 30, 2012 10:53 AM

11 Yes and no. But it is what it is, a college town and if you change the laws on the Nov 30, 2012 10:26 AM hill there will just be somewhere else for kids to go drink. It's contained, not a real problem. Load up on DUIs or something, don't spoil the fun for everyone because some people go too far.

12 I think it's a problem that it's normal for people to die every year from alcohol Nov 30, 2012 9:58 AM poisoning.

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13 Alcohol consumption is a problem on/around every college campus. Children, Nov 30, 2012 9:14 AM teenagers, and young adults lack the fundamental understanding of alcohol related diseases and view solely as a social tool for fun and adventure. You know it's a problem when you're the social outcast because you choose .

14 It really is just a problem on the Hill. I have lived several places in Boulder, Nov 30, 2012 8:50 AM including right near the University on 26th & Regent, over on 30th & Baseline, 22nd & Walnut, and finally on 11th & College this summer. When I lived on 11th & College, on July 3rd, 2012, an over-intoxicated man tried to forcibly enter the house. When he broke his way through the window screen, we called the cops. Our experience ended with the cops not writing a report about it because they were so used to dealing with similar incidents. The Hill is out of control. It is by far the most dangerous place I lived when I was in Boulder. And how can you ignore this incident: http://articles.latimes.com/2012/may/26/nation/la-na-nn- colorado-trespasser-shot-20120526 How embarrassing for this wonderful community.

15 I think that CU is desperately trying to rid itself of the "party school" image and Nov 30, 2012 8:48 AM therefore is enforcing its decrees on the rest of Boulder.

16 I think it is better than it was when I was in college. Nov 30, 2012 8:47 AM

17 There will always be a few visible outliers but the large large majority of the Nov 30, 2012 8:31 AM population is responsible consumers

18 Are you joking? It's a college town. That means 3/4 of the people here are under Nov 30, 2012 7:20 AM 21, but 100% drinks.

19 It is a small college town. I believe for the amount of people and the average Nov 30, 2012 6:29 AM age, the alcohol consumption is justified.

20 Minor consumption/availability, The Hill, Pearl St. and other high-use areas. Nov 30, 2012 3:46 AM

21 By those underage experiencing the freedom college life brings Nov 30, 2012 1:04 AM

22 With underage kids and kids with fake ID's. This is what needs to be cracked Nov 30, 2012 12:40 AM down on, not the 21+ kids who can legally drink and know their limits.

23 We are college students, and it's the students responsibility to know their limits Nov 30, 2012 12:06 AM

24 Could be a lot worse. Nov 29, 2012 11:39 PM

25 It's not a problem more than anywhere else. Of course there will be people that Nov 29, 2012 11:28 PM over consume just like everywhere in the world. It might seem like more of a issue because it's a college town but they should be enforcing house parties more than bars because that is where the real problems lie. I guarantee that if you made tighter restrictions and policed house parties more a lot more hot button issues would be resolved a lot quicker.

26 People will always be drinking on and near a college campus. No law or rule is Nov 29, 2012 11:27 PM going to change that.

27 It just is!!! Nov 29, 2012 10:45 PM

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28 I have lived within 10 miles of Boulder for 20 years and have been going to The Nov 29, 2012 10:31 PM Hill this entire span. Working in the music industry, I have visited college town all over the country and Boulder has the smallest bar scene of any. The reason there are so many issues with alcohol outside of drinking establishments where things are regulated, is the lack of drinking establishments.

29 I think traffic, congestion, noise, and lighting are problems in boulder. Drinking Nov 29, 2012 10:28 PM doesn't even make the list.

30 It's a college town. What is this? ? Nov 29, 2012 10:25 PM

31 It's a college town. Nov 29, 2012 10:17 PM

32 There is a prevalence of drinking due to the fact it is a college town. Nov 29, 2012 9:59 PM

33 In any big college town there is going to be a larger consumption of alcohol Nov 29, 2012 9:51 PM because of the amount of students. It is not a problem, just a larger proportion of consumption.

34 I don't see alcohol over consumption as a particularly bad problem in Boulder in Nov 29, 2012 9:49 PM comparison to other cities.

35 College students that are not responsible drink more than they should legally Nov 29, 2012 9:46 PM and for their own safety

36 There have been no relevant or corollary statistics to show that there is an issue Nov 29, 2012 9:39 PM with alcohol consumption.

37 It is at a level expected for a destination location Nov 29, 2012 9:35 PM

38 I see no difference in the drinking habits of Boulder residents and any other area Nov 29, 2012 9:32 PM that has a high volume of young and college aged people. Further more it is not the job of government to control people on this level.

39 No more than any other college town (I'm not an undergrad, so my "student" Nov 29, 2012 9:30 PM status is unbiased)

40 Having lived in several of the 'party' areas in Boulder I haven't had an issue with Nov 29, 2012 9:28 PM feeling unsafe or bothered by those who had overconsumed. It does occur, but hasn't negatively impacted the community

41 Maybe people over consumer alcohol here but it's a college town. This occurs in Nov 29, 2012 9:23 PM all college towns.

42 It is a college own so a certain level of alcohol consumption is expected, and it is Nov 29, 2012 9:22 PM not out of hand. Boulder is still a great place to live and visit.

43 As a recent alumni of the University of Colorado at Boulder, I have experienced Nov 29, 2012 9:22 PM the bar and restaurant scene within the past 12 months. In my opinion, it is not the number of places that serve liquor, it is the amount consumed that is not properly monitored by bar and restaurant owners who should be cutting people off that have had too much.

44 No better or worse than other major city or college town. Nov 29, 2012 9:15 PM

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45 Alcohol consumption makes the economy stronger. And it's not causing riots so Nov 29, 2012 9:08 PM let it be. Kick out the alcohol hard drugs will take over. At least with alcohol you can monitor it.

46 It is not really a problem in my experience. CU PD, Boulder PD and campus Nov 29, 2012 9:03 PM officials seem to be more than adequate at pursuing the problem. The bars on the Hill, Walnut and Pearl also stimulate the food industry.

47 Some people over consume but it is just stupid kids that are under 21. 21 year Nov 29, 2012 8:59 PM olds shouldn't be punished for their stupidity.

48 It's a college town where drinking consumption is typically larger due to the Nov 29, 2012 8:59 PM student body but I don't think it's necessarily a problem

49 It's no different then any other college town. Nov 29, 2012 8:57 PM

50 It's college, people are supposed to be intoxicated, Nov 29, 2012 8:56 PM

51 It's a college town, everyone is going to drink. Nov 29, 2012 8:56 PM

52 It's a college town, it has been the same since college towns existed. If it was a Nov 29, 2012 8:54 PM problem students would figure it out, after all these are future leaders of the world...

53 I've never seen it when I'm there. Nov 29, 2012 8:53 PM

54 It is a normal college town and I don't think the alcohol consumption is any Nov 29, 2012 8:52 PM different from that of any other big city.

55 This is something that should be dealt with case by case, not further regulating Nov 29, 2012 8:52 PM small businesses.

56 I've heard multiple stories from friends of people being overly drunk in Boulder. Nov 29, 2012 8:49 PM

57 No different then anywhere else Nov 29, 2012 8:49 PM

58 The consumption of alcohol in boulder is normal for any town that has bars and Nov 29, 2012 8:49 PM restaurants.

59 I went to CU Boulder for college and there is no reason to change the hill to beer Nov 29, 2012 8:47 PM and wine only. There is almost no crime and its a really safe city! Why change a good thing? Liquor is a part of life - get over it. This will only hurt businesses and the appeal of the city. Horrible and ridiculous idea.

60 Establishments that serve ETOH are required by law to monitor serving patrons Nov 29, 2012 8:45 PM so they do not over consume. This, however, will not preclude liquor stores and a patrons ability to 'front load' alcohol prior to patronizing any establishment that serves alcohol.

61 That is too broad of a question for the whole town? Nov 29, 2012 8:44 PM

62 People should have the freedom to consume alcohol within non-dangerous Nov 29, 2012 8:43 PM limits, and the city of Boulder already does a good job in controlling potentially dangerous situations regarding alcohol

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63 Alcohol over consumption is not a problem based on the regulations already in Nov 29, 2012 8:43 PM place and the communication between establishments and the police on the hill.

64 The Hill is great as is. Do not over regulate it. You will ruin it. Nov 29, 2012 8:42 PM

65 I think there are certain people who drink too much who ruin it for the rest of us. Nov 29, 2012 8:42 PM These people will continue to get belligerent even if some of these ordinances are put into place. The ordinances will not prevent people in Boulder from drinking; they will just drink more at home and continue to go out on the Hill.

66 With it being such a college populated town you would expect a certain level of Nov 29, 2012 8:41 PM alcohol related incidents. I don't feel that boulder has a higher number of these incidents than any other college town.

67 In my neighborhood (east campus area) the students are responsible and Nov 29, 2012 8:41 PM respectful. On pearl street and the bill after 10 pm I have seen few instances of inebriated students. I do not think it is an issue.

68 Taking the problem away is not going to resolve it, it is just going to force people Nov 29, 2012 8:39 PM to come up with more creative ways of breaking the rules.

69 I think alcohol is tied to any University environment, and that includes Boulder. Nov 29, 2012 6:36 PM

70 Increase in crime and violations beyond just alcohol related ones (noise, Nov 29, 2012 6:34 PM vandalism, rape, etc.)

71 I certainly hear a lot about it on Campus, but I don't live in Boulder, so I do not Nov 29, 2012 6:17 PM have any first hand experience indicating that this is the case. Clearly, however, it is the perception.

72 The biggest problem I see is vomit stains in walking areas. Sometimes there are Nov 29, 2012 5:10 PM three or four piles of vomit on the same block. If this is not alcohol related, then Boulder has some problems with disease, or perhaps ipecac problems.

73 I think alcohol consumption is not a problem for Boulder. Additionally, draconian Nov 29, 2012 5:10 PM rules like the one proposed here reflect poorly on the city.

74 I think the level of alcohol consumption in Boulder, especially in the area of the Nov 29, 2012 4:49 PM "Hill" business district is appropriate for a city that is home to a large student population.

75 It is part of the lifestyle. If it is handled responsibly then it is fine. Nov 29, 2012 4:28 PM

76 It's a college town. Of course it's a problem. Nov 29, 2012 4:12 PM

77 The problem is not 18 year-olds consuming alcohol; the problem is 18 year-olds Nov 29, 2012 4:06 PM being allowed out in public.

78 I don't live near any businesses that serve alcohol. But I do live in a Nov 29, 2012 3:57 PM neighborhood that has single families as well as loud and rowdy college kids. They are the main problem and it's a huge one. They have no concept that they live around other people.

79 Yes, for a small portion of students. But that portion of students is frequently Nov 29, 2012 3:49 PM

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used to draw overly-broad conclusions about students in Boulder generally. The alcohol over-consumption problem is not as pervasive as it is portrayed.

80 No. The United States of America is a free society and according to our Nov 29, 2012 3:35 PM constitution, alcohol is allowed. Please do not waste your time trying to regulate alcohol overconsumption with zoning laws. Boulder already has many laws which deal with alcohol including criminal, civil and zoning regulations. Please do not spend more of our tax dollars seeking additional regulations. Instead please spend sometime and look through previous regulations to see if they are hurting the growth possibility of Boulder.

81 I think the city of Boulder is in denial that college age students are going to Nov 29, 2012 3:32 PM consume alcohol regardless of the . It seems like every time one student out of 40,000 makes a mistake, the university and municipality condemn and punish everyone else in the town for it. I think there are some students who overconsume alcohol, but I do not think it is a big problem, and definitely not big enough to be conducting a survey like this. I don't think attacking restaurants and bars is an effective way to deal with any alcohol related "problem". To some extent it is inevitable for young people to overconsume when the drinking age is so high. I would say education is the most effective route to take in dealing with this "problem." These students are going to have access to alcohol regardless, so stop making it so hard for other entities to do business.

82 When I was an undergrad I was personally part of the problem. Unsafe Nov 29, 2012 3:25 PM environment, property damage, vomit.

83 For a town that award winning nightlife, a large number of young professionals, Nov 29, 2012 3:25 PM and a major university I think alcohol consumption is extraordinarily reasonable.

84 Boulder is a university town. Yes, there is over consumption of alcohol in Nov 29, 2012 3:09 PM Boulder, but it is no worse than any other university town that I have lived in (Tempe, AZ, Westwood, CA, and Berkeley, CA, for example). Any issues with over-consumption of alcohol cannot be addressed with increased regulation of outside forces - they must be addressed through a change in behaviors. In other words, college students are going to drink excessively if they want to drink excessively. If you close (or restrict) one avenue, the drinkers will find another.

85 Not more so than other college towns. Wandering bands of transients are at Nov 29, 2012 3:05 PM least as much a negative quality of life issue. Furthermore most of the drinking is on the Hill or Pearl St., and while I feel badly for any families who unknowingly purchase a home on the Hill without realizing that is where students will be recreating (with or without alcohol), we have seen time and time again that severe restrictions on alcohol are not effective and can actually backfire. For example, London tried to limit drinking through strict time limits and saw an explosion of behavior.

86 I live near downtown pearl st. and have never noticed a problem on pearl nor do Nov 29, 2012 3:03 PM i have any noise complaints for my area 2 blocks from pearl

87 No. Seems like a normal college town. Nov 29, 2012 2:59 PM

88 I did my undergrad in Boulder too and lived here then. Open more bars on the Nov 29, 2012 2:57 PM

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Hill. All those old people can move somewhere else.

89 Boulder operates just like any other city. Try coming to Larimer Square on a Nov 29, 2012 2:56 PM weekend night in Denver and see what it is like. CU students and Boulder's young people will drink and party regardless of what efforts are taken in the University Hill area. Forcing the businesses to close early and ban liquor licenses is not the answer. The owners of those establishments contribute to what makes Boulder a beautiful, unique, and desirable place to live, and should not be punished because of some unruly students who are making bad decisions that will, and do, negatively affect their own lives. It is just a good idea to punish the business owners.

90 Enforcement of current laws is adequate. It is a college and drinking will always Nov 29, 2012 2:54 PM be an issue. Having a way to monitor it is most important.

91 Too much of a party school Nov 29, 2012 2:51 PM

92 Over consumption is a problem for the country, and it's not just isolated to Nov 29, 2012 2:46 PM Boulder -- it's in Denver, in small towns, and other places in our culture.

93 I have never had a negative experience as a result of alcohol when it comes to Nov 29, 2012 2:45 PM the social scene of Downtown Boulder, the Hill or any other region in or around Boulder.

94 Alcohol overconsumption is a problem everywhere, but it is not a problem that Nov 29, 2012 2:45 PM can be regulated away. It is a social and human issue that must be addressed at root causes. Boulder is no more or less susceptible than any other college town.

95 No, alcohol consumption in Boulder is at a level compared to any other town/city. Nov 29, 2012 2:44 PM

96 Because the demonetization of alcohol is wrong. Kids make more irresponsible Nov 29, 2012 2:44 PM choices when they are unsupervised(outside of bars) and drive home.

97 It's a college town and that is just part of being a college town where children are Nov 29, 2012 2:43 PM learning how to become adults

98 No. I have not seen over inebriated people getting served in bars in Boulder. Nov 29, 2012 2:42 PM Regulating bars would not reduce the small amount of people that are over consuming alcohol. IF there is a problem with over consumption, I feel it is something that is NOT happening at bars and other places service alcohol. IF there is a problem it is occurring at private house parties.

99 Over consumption of alcohol is strictly limited to some University students, Nov 29, 2012 2:39 PM instead of being a "City of Boulder" issue. Therefore, there should be more regulation of fraternity/sorority parties, the main causes of over consumption, not of bars.

100 Yes. Especially look into the amount of alcohol Half Fast Subs serves. It's Nov 29, 2012 2:39 PM ridiculous.

101 Biggest party school in America Nov 29, 2012 2:38 PM

102 College kids are college kids and will over-consume alcohol regardless of the Nov 29, 2012 2:36 PM

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rules. If kids spend less money in a bar, they will have more money to spend in a liquor store (and be able to purchase more alcohol for the same amount of money that they would have spent in a bar).

103 It is a normal part of college life and the life of many adults. There have been no Nov 29, 2012 1:47 PM major disruptions while I have lived here, and most rowdiness that I have seen is contained to the Hill neighbourhood where it is expected.

104 It is a college town at a major university. That's what college students do. Nov 29, 2012 10:16 AM

105 Amongst the homeless population. Nov 29, 2012 9:43 AM

106 It is a college town, its no different than any big state school town in the US. Nov 28, 2012 10:50 PM

107 alcohol consumption happens in every college town Nov 28, 2012 10:16 PM

108 There is a high rate of binge drinking among CU students. Nov 28, 2012 10:02 PM

109 Boulder is like any other college town you visit. There are numerous restaurants Nov 28, 2012 7:44 PM and bars that serve alcohol. There really is no difference. And honestly, it could be worse. Bars could be open until 4am like they are in places like Chicago and New York.I think closing the bars at 2am is reasonable and curbs over consumption. Bartenders are trained to ensure over consumption doesn't occur. The place you have to worry about is the numerous house parties on the hill, but at the same time those are much harder to tame.

110 I feel like most people in Boulder know their limits are able to consume alcohol Nov 28, 2012 7:25 PM responsibly.

111 As a law student, I can only speak for use within my community. Everyone I Nov 28, 2012 7:21 PM know is of a legal age and I don't think there is a major alcohol over consumption issue within the grad/law school community.

112 I think there are private parties where students may drink too much. I don't Nov 28, 2012 7:18 PM believe that regulated alcohol service businesses are a problem. Making it more difficult for businesses to operate is not a solution to our problems.

113 Over consumption is always going to happen no matter where (business or Nov 28, 2012 7:16 PM residential) you are. I don't see it as a major problem around Boulder. I beleive a few bad eggs make this issue look worse than it really is. I have been a resident in Boulder for eight years and have worked/lived in almost every district where the city believes there is a problem. I have seen some wild things but at the same time I have seen the same in other cities around the country and world.

114 No, I think it is average and normal. Nov 28, 2012 6:57 PM

115 It is a problem at every University town, not just Boulder Nov 28, 2012 6:38 PM

116 Every "college town" has this problem. Kids are stupid. Nov 28, 2012 6:37 PM

117 Boulder is a college town; alcohol is widely consumed more in any college town Nov 28, 2012 6:14 PM than it is in a town without a college. That's just how it works.

118 I don't think it's specific to just Boulder, I don't think it's any worse than any other Nov 28, 2012 6:02 PM

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school out there. Everyone parties.

119 I believe the level of alcohol consumption is standard for a college town. Nov 28, 2012 5:16 PM

120 I think in any college town and any place that attracts young adults you will see Nov 28, 2012 5:00 PM higher alcohol consumption then places with different demographics.

121 Its a college town, normally alcohol overconsumption takes place at parties or Nov 28, 2012 4:41 PM frat houses.

122 Personal observations of peers. Nov 28, 2012 4:32 PM

123 Excessive underage drinking; however it IS a college town. Nov 28, 2012 4:30 PM

124 Boulder is just like any other town in America and if someone gets drunk it is not Nov 28, 2012 4:21 PM a problem for Boulder it is a problem for their self.

125 It is unhealthy for young students Nov 28, 2012 3:39 PM

126 People will drink if they want and it's their prerogative Nov 28, 2012 3:08 PM

127 Our school is known as a party university. Nov 28, 2012 2:15 PM

128 It's a college town, anywhere that the campus is central to the town there will be Nov 28, 2012 1:17 PM alcohol consumption

129 In this city because its a college town I think people are just having fun. I am Nov 28, 2012 1:09 PM pretty sure I know an alcoholic when I see one.

130 Just like any other college town Nov 28, 2012 12:37 PM

131 Have personally witnessed drunken students damaging property. Nov 28, 2012 11:43 AM

132 Enforcement of alcohol related laws is the real problem. Nov 28, 2012 11:13 AM

133 young students and house parties. Nov 28, 2012 10:43 AM

134 I do believe many over consume, but I don't necessarily believe it is a "problem" Nov 28, 2012 10:27 AM that can be solved.

135 No because this is just a college town. There are people who do tend to drink to Nov 28, 2012 10:13 AM much every weekend but thats usually just for the first couple months of school and then people start to figure out that they cant do that every weekend.

136 Even on Pearl Street, people never seem to be too rowdy. Nov 28, 2012 10:10 AM

137 Late night on the Hill (both businesses and residences) can be pretty noisy and Nov 28, 2012 9:26 AM irritating.

138 i have heard all of the stories about people getting drunk and hurt, thursday has Nov 28, 2012 9:09 AM been nicknamed "Thirsty Thursday".

139 Now a graduate student, I have attended other universities where alcohol Nov 28, 2012 8:28 AM consumption was much more prevalent. Marijuana use should be your concern,

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if anything.

140 Alcohol is addictive and has tons of dangerous effects on society, such as its Nov 28, 2012 8:27 AM contribution to crime.

141 The kids on the hill need to learn how to drink responsibly. Nov 28, 2012 7:54 AM

142 Specialty bars attract people from out of town. Several bars focus on students. Nov 28, 2012 7:46 AM

143 It's a college town...it's inevitable. The homeless people and the townies are the Nov 28, 2012 7:02 AM real problem, don't take it out on the students.

144 Drunk college students cause a lot of traffic, safety, and police problems on the Nov 27, 2012 11:54 PM hill at. Night, especially on the weekend.

145 If the city of boulder believes over consumption of alcohol is a problem in boulder Nov 27, 2012 11:31 PM then perhaps they should compare the rates of alcohol consumption and related damages to that of other cities and college towns. It is present, yet not a problem. Great business and controllable damage - being one of boulder law enforcement's priorities

146 I think it is not a problem for persons over the age of 21. It's their right. Nov 27, 2012 11:17 PM However, I know a LOT of students that get into the bars, even if they are not 21 or older. The IDs need to be checked and follow up with those that are repeated offenders.

147 Alcohol is part of the college social scene, and misuse of alcohol because of this Nov 27, 2012 10:57 PM culture has led to deaths of good friends of my friends.

148 My main complaint is noise and the unsafe environment of house parties Nov 27, 2012 10:52 PM primarily on University Hill.

149 There are really only a select group of people that can't handle drinking Nov 27, 2012 10:42 PM responsibly that make it a problem. Most people are just having a good time in college around CU and on the hill, and in the rest of Boulder it doesn't seem to be a problem at all. The main thing around campus on weekends is just the noise level, but a pair of earplugs solves that if it really bothers you.

150 Alcohol over consumption is a problem in any city that has a big university like Nov 27, 2012 10:39 PM CU. But I don't think it's *more* of a problem in Boulder than it is in other such cities.

151 Because people are smart and take care of themselves and each other, except Nov 27, 2012 10:27 PM for a few dumbies who ruin it for the rest of us.

152 It's just the university students Nov 27, 2012 10:17 PM

153 Too many incidents of students getting injured and/or doing stupid things (walk Nov 27, 2012 10:07 PM into a house and get shot, spray bear spray, etc.)

154 Fraternities and Sororities promote over consumption. I have yet to meet a single Nov 27, 2012 10:00 PM Fraternity up on the hill that does not have serious drinking issues.

155 As a city with a large college campus, alcohol will be a component of having Nov 27, 2012 9:56 PM

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large populations of students. I do think that regulation and measures to keep citizens and students safe are important. Boulder could most certainly implement new measures. A different issue would probably be related to underage drinking rather than alcohol over consumption.

156 Too much of an activity of other students. Nov 27, 2012 9:54 PM

157 It's a college town. People drink here. It is no worse here than on any other Nov 27, 2012 9:44 PM college campus.

158 It is no more of a problem than any other community in the US. Nov 27, 2012 9:42 PM

159 People do it just as a way of getting together Nov 27, 2012 9:38 PM

160 I see students who are clearly under the influence that are walking all over and Nov 27, 2012 9:33 PM around the main campus, and I think that it is hazardous to other students, and really distracts the people who come to visit Boulder and gives them a negative experience.

161 Live in CU dorms. Hallmates and others can frequently be heard late at night Nov 27, 2012 9:30 PM discussing and or exhibiting drunkenness.

162 Because the standards of student admissions to the University of Colorado at Nov 27, 2012 9:30 PM Boulder are low and the Greek life is autonomous from the college; to elaborate, most "students" attend boulder to party, and they can because nobody keeps that in check. There are very few students who are serious about school here and it pains me to see that people who can afford education (most without hardship) take it for granted at an institution that has so many resources. These people who do not deserve to be here party every night and disrupt others who are here to get an education and make worthwile social connections for the business and private world. I live on the hill and have a major in a hard physical science; I cannot afford to be kept up till 3 AM every night because police officers do not consistently bust parties on weekdays or adequately address noise complaints. The Greek life is not adequately monitored by our school and the surrounding community of boulder and are seemingly subject to due what they please (for the most part). In addition, most of these clueless people litter glass bottles and other garbage virtually everywhere, which brings both safety and pollution concerns for a beautiful city.

163 It is in any setting where it is easily accessed Nov 27, 2012 9:27 PM

164 It is a college town. It happens, but it does not seem to cause any major Nov 27, 2012 9:25 PM problem. Public transport keeps drunk drivers off the streets, bars are in "college" areas.

165 Everyday you cannot walk anywhere without hearing someone talking about how Nov 27, 2012 9:22 PM 'wasted' they got that weekend. During the first week of school I found a girl passed out on the ground on a Thursday night. In addition, a friend of mine has been ditching classes, not turning homework, and mixing alcohol and drugs.

166 No & Yes. No, because it is very much apart of the young culture as a social Nov 27, 2012 9:11 PM event and every-day pastime. Yes, because i think there is a small demographic of students who are consuming high quantities of alcohol in combination with

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pharmaceutical drugs, and that to me, is far more concerning.

167 People in Boulder like to drink beer and students like to party, but I wouldn't Nov 27, 2012 9:08 PM consider it one of Boulder's main problems.

168 Students abusing alcohol in almost universal. Nov 27, 2012 9:08 PM

169 As a student at CU, I have been negatively affected by irresponsible drinking on Nov 27, 2012 9:04 PM the part of my peers. On several occasions, student groups to which I belong were impacted by some of their members participating in this behavior in such a way that the image and credibility of the entire group were damaged, and the irresponsible members were forced to withdraw from the organizations.

170 House parties and dorms are places of over consumption. These people don't Nov 27, 2012 9:00 PM understand their limits and take it too far.

171 There is an alcohol culture on and around "the hill" but beyond that I don't see Nov 27, 2012 9:00 PM alcohol as a problem in Boulder.

172 I've never been bothered by it--by noise, intoxicated individuals, compromised Nov 27, 2012 8:56 PM drivers, etc. Boulder's great public transportation system keeps a lot of drunk drivers off roads; they should run later!

173 If the drinking age were lowered to 18 then binge drinking would not be an issue. Nov 27, 2012 8:45 PM We need to look at European countries to see how raising children in an environment where drinking isn't viewed as taboo can make alcohol less alluring. Raise the driving age and lower the drinking age.

174 Not relative to other major cities. Nov 27, 2012 8:43 PM

175 When I saw someone puking from drinking too much on a morning run I then Nov 27, 2012 8:42 PM knew that it was a problem

176 I don't believe Boulder in its entirety has an over consumption problem but I Nov 27, 2012 8:42 PM believe that CU students contribute greatly to the belief that there is a problem

177 I think a lot of people do it but I have never seen it cause any problems other Nov 27, 2012 8:42 PM than the occasional vomit on the sidewalk.

178 Too much , focus on alcohol in the Nov 27, 2012 8:38 PM

179 Lots of issues resulting from alcohol consumption. Nov 27, 2012 8:31 PM

180 its a college town, thus a party town. Nov 27, 2012 8:30 PM

181 The terms "over consumption" and "problem" are too fluid. What exactly is meant Nov 27, 2012 8:29 PM by these terms? Are there people who drink too much in Boulder? Absolutely. Do I think it's a problem? No. Why? Because in general, the lives of members of the community are not disrupted by the alcohol consumption of people in this area.

182 students want to "party" and drink whether of age or not Nov 27, 2012 8:25 PM

183 The Hill is a very unsafe to be outside at night. I have heard that a lot of the Nov 27, 2012 8:25 PM violence, attacks, crime, etc. has to with wild parties and incapacitated

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184 Too many people, especially underage kids who attend parties hosted by CU Nov 27, 2012 8:22 PM Boulder students and organizations connected to CU, abuse alcohol.

185 College town, nothing abnormal Nov 27, 2012 8:18 PM

186 I think there are pockets of over-consumption in any university town. Nov 27, 2012 8:13 PM

187 It's a college town - it's completely normal Nov 27, 2012 5:31 PM

188 We have had a death with a college student at one of the University Fraternity . Nov 27, 2012 4:21 PM That is the worst impact on the community. If I have to pick an answer for #6 I will.

189 I feel the over consumption issue stems from college students simply being Nov 27, 2012 3:36 PM college students. As someone who went to college outside of Boulder - at Michigan State University - but who has visited other campuses and college towns, I feel that the drinking "problem" is really just kids being kids. College Aged "Adults" are testing the boundaries of their new-found freedom - living along for the first time, staying out late, drinking alcohol, drug use and experimentation, sexual preferences, new friends, new identities and new experiences are all what make up the college experience and finding yourself.

190 just as prevalent as any college town Nov 27, 2012 2:57 PM

191 Because it is a college town, there are of course going to be more young people Nov 27, 2012 2:04 PM out drinking than towns without a university. I do not think of it as a problem, just a cultural phenomenon.

192 Most business are focused on safe service. In my company it is constantly at Nov 27, 2012 12:11 PM the forefront of our mind. Our staff is specifically trained to watch for over service and how to handle these situations when they arise. If businesses are adhering to the liquor laws, then there should never be an issue.

193 It isn't any better or worse than any other college town of our size. It is Nov 27, 2012 10:36 AM something that in ingrained into the culture of Boulder and is evident in the amount of happy hours, breweries, distrilleries, and bars/restaurants in the city. at 4pm go into any one of these places and it is full with people: business people, college people, blue collar people, etc. It is actually something that drives people to move to Boulder and should be used as a positive not a negative.

194 Not more than any other college town. One problem might be the consumption of Nov 27, 2012 10:12 AM liquor over beer (ie kegs aren't allow at frats so people resort to hard alcohol to compensate for prices of canned beer)

195 Boulder is a very "beer friendly" place, its very much part of the social fabric. Nov 27, 2012 9:41 AM While i do feel that students tend to over drink, as i leave work late sometimes and see the students in action, i assume that is no more so than any other college environment.

196 I don't see people intoxicated, but I don't usually socialize in Boulder. Nov 27, 2012 9:26 AM

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197 I have never really personally seen a problem when I go out but i know that at Nov 27, 2012 9:17 AM house partys there is over consumption

198 It feels like binge drinking is more of an issue now than when the drinking age Nov 27, 2012 8:53 AM was 18. People still drank a lot in college but the difference seems to be they're drinking over a shorter amount of time because they know once they know it's hard to get. So when it's available they drink a lot in a short amount of time boosting their BAC as opposed to drinking over a longer time span which would result in lower BAC in addition to allowing time for them to feel the effects and regulate themselves better. CU students refer to it as pregaming

199 It is - maybe somewhat more than in other areas, but not radically so. I don't Nov 27, 2012 6:46 AM know that it has to do specifically with bars' operating hours/locations, though. It's more a cultural phenomenon, and the university means there is a disproportionate population of recent 21-year-olds.

200 I live on the hill and red cups on my front lawn, drunk students trawling the Nov 27, 2012 2:16 AM streets in my neighborhood - I know alcohol is a problem in Boulder.

201 students are only in college once. Nov 27, 2012 1:07 AM

202 I haven't seen any significant issues in Boulder related to the over consumption Nov 26, 2012 9:03 PM of alcohol since I've been a resident here. There are enough regulations on the consumption and over regulating could cause back lash and further increase the said issue at hand.

203 We are a college town. That has some inherit blessings and challenges. Its Nov 26, 2012 8:37 PM counterproductive to try and be social engineers. I am not a big drinker but think that city council trys to over manage the hill and the mall areas.

204 As an out of state student who has visited many other college campuses and Nov 26, 2012 7:48 PM towns, Boulder is very much a more laid back town with regards to alcohol related problems. In my experience the diversity of places to go to around Boulder, from Pearl to the Hill, distributes people evenly enough that there aren't so many people drinking in the same place as to cause problems.

205 Yes, but limiting serving times in bars on the hill will not stop students from Nov 26, 2012 7:41 PM buying alcohol at liquor stores. Most people don't get drunk at the bar, they drink before so they don't have to spend as much money at the bars.

206 It isn't. Boulder is a college town and with that comes the assumption of alcohol Nov 26, 2012 7:39 PM consumption.

207 "Over consumption" of alcohol does and will occur everywhere in the world at all Nov 26, 2012 7:16 PM times of day. We should not impose laws and regulations on businesses to compensate for the frailties of unintelligent individuals - what the city is doing ALREADY goes far above and beyond what is necessary to make a reasonable effort to try to mitigate over-consumption of alcohol. We do not need to pay for more regulations, boards, or police officers to try to tell people how much they should or should not drink.

208 I have expieience in many other cities and boulders consumption issues are far Nov 26, 2012 7:04 PM less than most.

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209 Somewhat but No more then any other college town. Nov 26, 2012 6:02 PM

210 There are too many students who come here for the purpose of Nov 26, 2012 5:31 PM overconsumption of alcohol. I think if there were stricter rules, we as students would be taken more seriously and our school would thrive even more than now.

211 It is definitely a problem among the undergraduate population, but I do not Nov 26, 2012 5:16 PM believe this trend is reflected within the rest of the Boulder community.

212 If compared to other universities, I believe the school would find that we are Nov 26, 2012 4:56 PM actually pretty safe in consumption, compared to other large universities.

213 It seems that quite a few people, usually between the ages of 16 and 24 but may Nov 26, 2012 4:12 PM be older, overconsume alcohol and create problems in the community. The second-hand effects of their negative and destructive behavior are deterimental to the overall community environment in Boulder5.

214 I do not think that a lot of people are drinking large amounts on a regular basis Nov 26, 2012 4:09 PM but at times when alcohol is consumed, it is sometimes abused. I also do not feel this is as much of a problem for people over 21 as much as it is for underage drinking in private residences rather than public places.

215 Many underage college students are constantly passing their limits in alcohol Nov 26, 2012 3:58 PM consumption that results in them being transported or disrupting the larger community.

216 Over consumption of alcohol happens everywhere - just more so in college Nov 26, 2012 3:50 PM towns.

217 I have no issues with the nightlife and in Boulder as it is like Nov 26, 2012 3:39 PM every other state in our country. We should not make it more difficult for businesses to obtain liquor licenses. It harbors competition and stimulates our local economy.

218 Alcohol consumption is an issue on virtually all US college campuses and is a Nov 26, 2012 3:27 PM particular issue for CU-Boulder given it's (unfair, but widely embraced) party school reputation. In addition, alcohol use rates are higher in Boulder than in other communities, and Colorado is in the top 15 states for alcohol consumption.

219 Problem is with house parties which are unregulated Nov 26, 2012 3:04 PM

220 Alcohol is dangerous and the fact that the age to get into the bars on pearl is a Nov 26, 2012 2:51 PM strict 21 years old makes the freshman/sophomore crowd go to mostly house parties on the hill, an area mostly uninhibited by taxis or other modes of transportation. This makes the likelihood for DUIs, MIPs and other crimes much higher. If the city of boulder lowered the age to get into the bars to 19 as it is at some university towns such as the university of Illinois, it gives the situation more control in a professional, mature sense.

221 If people choose to drink unresponsibly it is not the businesses fault. It is the Nov 26, 2012 2:50 PM drinkers fault. All bars that sell alcohol have people that drink irresponsibily. Not just Boulder!!

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222 From what I have seen, over the last twenty years, the Boulder City Council and Nov 26, 2012 2:47 PM its affiliated boards have taken an excessive amount of interest in this matter and have already reduced the ability for establishments, both those open after 11pm and those that close by 11pm, to succeed. They have already gone too far.

223 In all communities there is a certain amount of overconsumption. The student Nov 26, 2012 2:45 PM population does consume and sometimes over-consume alcohol but I see the biggest problem is the consumption is in the homes without supervision.

224 consistent or less then that of other college towns Nov 26, 2012 2:42 PM

225 Alcohol consumption by CU students on the hill is a problem. It is also a Nov 26, 2012 2:16 PM problem that your survey only gives two options for gender. Female and male would be a proper response to the question what "What is your sex?" Even better would be if you included "intersex" or "other." But for the question of gender you should put "man," "woman," "gender queer," "transgender," and "other." Or better yet leave a blank. Then I can answer my gender as "transgender." Get it together City of Boulder.

226 Students roam the streets on the Hill intoxicated every weekend. they show little Nov 26, 2012 2:01 PM respect to neighborhoods, respect that would be demanded of them in their hometowns. There have been alcohol related deaths. we are not protecting our youth. The University and the City need to provide proper outlets for the students creative energy and promote the education of good citizens. And those students that do not respect the community or themselves should be treated quickly, fairly, but in a firm manner.

227 With the University being here it definitely influences more than casual drinking. Nov 26, 2012 1:51 PM For example, on game days there's tailgating before noon where students and parents are consuming alcohol before 12pm which is kind of silly. Yes I participate in tailgates but I am well aware it's still morning and hard liquor should be out of the question, it's morning!! On other days besides game days, students who do choose to drink do exceed their limits quite often. I've been to multiple parties where there's that person who should seek help. There has to be some type of problem if there's students walking into wrong houses, assaulting others and shooting firearms. I normally hear student stories where people "black out" and laugh about. It's not funny and one should learn from it. With all this said, I must say my classmates of CU Boulder are looking out for each other. I believe there are good people who genuinely care and would make the right decision to call for help if someone needed it.

228 Perhaps isolated incidents as one often finds in particular with college towns, but Nov 26, 2012 1:48 PM the draconian ways the City of Boulder licensing authority has chosen to regulate is unacceptable. We are opening a new restaurant OUTSIDE of Boulder specifially for these reasons. It is unfortuante in this economic environment that Boulder elects to penalize thosee lawful and complient businesses. Enough is enough.

229 binge culture Nov 26, 2012 1:31 PM

230 The amount of consumption of alcohol consumed in the city of Boulder is grossly Nov 26, 2012 1:30 PM exaggerated by the University and its affiliates. The city's law enforcement has a far more stricter set of guidelines towards the consumption and regulation of

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alcohol as opposed to other college towns. If anything, the city should cut back on its enforcement of alcohol.

231 I work at CU Boulder and see all the problems associated with college drinking Nov 26, 2012 1:30 PM culture on our campus. But, I also see the historical problems of drinking in this community in general and the modeling that happens by the adults in Boulder.

232 It is a college town, it comes with the territory. Just be grateful that the students Nov 26, 2012 1:16 PM also drive the economy.

233 An ambulance is a ready appearance in either downtown boulder or on campus. Nov 26, 2012 1:13 PM

234 Maybe with some of the younger CU students, but for the most part Boulder Nov 26, 2012 1:12 PM seems to be more responsible about alcohol consumption than places I have lived on the west coast and midwest. Other than the hill I have never really seen obviously drunk and belligerent people out and about, and there doesn't seem to be too much of a problem either.

235 I understand that one could answer yes. I think as a community the answer is no. Nov 26, 2012 1:08 PM Students study, work and drink. This survey is to answer whether or not "the hill' should have stricter alcohol laws. I say no. Don't punish your local business owners because you dont like the way some students or patrons behave. Self responsbilty should apply. If the 'hill" has tighter restrictions, then what.... starting a 10pm-11pm floods of students drive, walk, bike to Pearl and find another party. Keep people close to their homes so there is no bad decision making of driving and or biking. Pearl has a large police force day and night. Start providing that type of security around the hill.

236 I believe the alcohol consumption here is very similar to other metropolitan areas Nov 26, 2012 12:52 PM in Colorado. I don't believe further regulation will have any effect on disorderly conduct, crime, or unclean neighborhoods. People will continue to drink as they do now regardless of changes to the law.

237 Alcohol consumption becomes and issue for societies and individuals when Nov 26, 2012 12:51 PM there are more down sides than upsides. There are many places in the world that do have alcohol consumption issues and in relation to those places and issues we don't have an issue. No one likes a drunk but at what point does the government or society as a whole regulate the behaviours of others.

238 I think alcohol consumption is high at any University and in every college town, Nov 26, 2012 12:38 PM and do not view Boulder as consuming more than any other college town.

239 Well I think in most colleges throughout America alcohol overconsumption is a Nov 26, 2012 12:28 PM problem. We're all technically alcoholics.

240 Reports of crime related incidents by mostly students and the homeless in the Nov 26, 2012 12:21 PM newspaper.

241 Imbibing alcohol is a choice that responsible adults can make. There is NO issue Nov 26, 2012 12:18 PM with over consumption.

242 Over consumption does not present dangers to those in Boulder, and the area is Nov 26, 2012 12:14 PM still a very pleasant area to live despite any "over consumption" problem that as

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a resident of the area I do not see.

243 I have personally not seen it be a problem. Sure students may drink a lot, but Nov 26, 2012 12:10 PM that happens at every college. We're one of the few schools that actually doesn't have a big problem.

244 Alcohol over consumption is a fact of life. When there are a lot of kids aged 18 Nov 26, 2012 12:07 PM and up in an area, there is going to be a lot of drinking regardless of what is done to stop it. Anyone who thinks otherwise is incredibly naive or completely ignorant.

245 People drink all over the world and Boulder is no different. It is a well known Nov 26, 2012 11:40 AM college town and college students contribute the most to over consumption. However, imposing these regulations WILL NOT alter the problem because the students/others will still find a way to drink hard alcohol (liquor stores and such). The problem might even get WORSE from an uproar of upset students. Noise may be a complaint but that is the only issue I see with this problem.

246 Binge drinking is a huge problem in Boulder- particularly for CU students. The Nov 26, 2012 11:21 AM school's reputation as "party school" directly hinges on the frequent over- consumption of alcohol, both for legal and underage students.

247 there are many students who party hard and eventually exceed their healthy limit Nov 26, 2012 11:19 AM

248 My yes answer applies specifically to the Hill area and a few bars in downtown Nov 26, 2012 11:04 AM Boulder. This is due to the college student population - other age groups do not apply to my answer.

249 Heavy drinking is going to happen either way, and the homeowner's association Nov 26, 2012 10:58 AM is just going to incur the wrath of the students they already overcharge for housing.

250 Some young people have difficulty staying within their limits. However, I believe Nov 26, 2012 10:54 AM this problem is much more prevalent among those outside of bars, with no one to keep an eye on them. The bars in Boulder are able to ID potential customers, and they cut off those who are too drunk.

251 It is a college town, college kids drink. always have, always will. good luck Nov 26, 2012 10:51 AM changing that. Drinking is an excellent social networking activity. I have meet 3 future employers by drinking (responsibly) with them and impressing them with my social skills and charm

252 There is no current issue of criminal or harmful acts on non-consumers. Nov 26, 2012 10:47 AM

253 No its the individuals decision to over drink. A lot of people have SELF Nov 26, 2012 10:37 AM CONTROL

254 Yes, alcohol over consumption is a problem in Boulder, but establishments that Nov 26, 2012 10:36 AM serve alcohol cannot be blamed for the over consumption. House parties have a much bigger impact in overconsumption because alcohol becomes hidden in a private house, allowing people to drink more in an unsafe way. Creating a culture of moderation around alcohol is the key, not controlling establishments.

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255 no more so than any other college town Nov 26, 2012 10:34 AM

256 It's a college town. Sure there is a lot of underage drinking, but look at other Nov 26, 2012 10:20 AM violent crime statistics. If it was obvious that was increasing violent crimes, which it isn't, then there might be a problem. But they're college kids. You only get to go through college once and its supposed to be the greatest time of your life. I know it was for me. The Hill is safe even at 2 AM on a Sunday. There's not a problem.

257 I don't think it's any more of a problem here than anyone else, and is more a Nov 26, 2012 10:12 AM result of our societal attitudes toward alcohol than anything happening specifically in Boulder.

258 I think that as long as they are not under the influence of alcohol committing Nov 26, 2012 10:04 AM crimes or dying the government should not interfere with their consumption because it is not hazardous to the community.

259 I work for the University of Colorado and I interact with students on a regular Nov 26, 2012 9:42 AM basis who make mistakes while over consuming alcohol.

260 It's a college town, how could you expect 21 year old students to not drink Nov 26, 2012 9:42 AM

261 Once could argue that alcohol over consumption is a problem nationwide, but no Nov 26, 2012 9:40 AM more or less so in Boulder.

262 A lot of alcohol related crime and accidents Nov 26, 2012 9:39 AM

263 I think people drink irresponsibly and end up in difficult situations without the Nov 26, 2012 9:38 AM wherewithal to get out of them.

264 In general no. Certain circumstances make it an issue a few times a year Nov 26, 2012 9:37 AM though.

265 companies target students and it interferes with ability to learn, especially with Nov 26, 2012 9:36 AM deals for thursday night drinks or weekday specials.

266 Alcohol over-consumption is a problem at all universities, so any problem has Nov 26, 2012 9:33 AM Boulder is not unique. Changing zoning laws will not stop studends from over- consuming alcohol.

267 I think it is as much as you would see in any college town and for the most part, Nov 26, 2012 9:26 AM the people engaging in the consumption in bars and restaurants are of age.

268 I have witnessed the large amount of issues in Boulder related to over Nov 26, 2012 9:25 AM consumption of alcohol, the number of drunken brawls, trips to detox, and MIP tickets issued in the city is way above "normal"

269 Our current laws have created a culture of binge drinking and over-consumption. Nov 26, 2012 9:18 AM We need to lower the drinking age again.

270 I feel it's a slightly bigger problem than in many other cities with large college Nov 26, 2012 9:16 AM student populations, but not by much.

271 College students especially. Nov 26, 2012 8:59 AM

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272 I've lived in many places and I don't think it's any better or worse than anywhere Nov 26, 2012 8:52 AM else I've lived.

273 Far too much press is given to a few college students that simply go to far. More Nov 26, 2012 8:48 AM of the problem is created by people who moved to areas where students live and bars exist(ed) and then complain. It is better to keep college students close to where they live and go to school...In fact, if you review the history, the problems we have today have cropped up AFTER the 3.2 age limit was raised from 18 to 21 and students were no longer able to stay on campus and drink there...the stance of NO alcohol at football games creates an emphasis on heavy drinking both before and after the games...which also leads to many of the problems.

274 I think underage, college drinking is a problem, not drinking at bars downtown. Nov 26, 2012 8:42 AM

275 Off CU campus there is no problem. Nov 26, 2012 8:40 AM

276 I observe that too much emphasis is placed on the over-consumption of alcohol Nov 26, 2012 8:34 AM through cultural and structural norms.

277 I was a student at CU and experienced first hand the over consuption of alcohol Nov 26, 2012 8:32 AM by students in particular.

278 I have worked at different places in Boulder that are directly impacted by Nov 26, 2012 8:31 AM students specifically when they have drank too much and I have seen the results

279 I don't have the data to answer the question. Nov 26, 2012 8:23 AM

280 If there is any over consumption, it is not happening as frequently in bars, Nov 26, 2012 8:15 AM taverns, restaurants as it is in undergraduate living spaces, these businesses are not the issue

281 I work for CU in the residence halls and see the over consumption of alcohol by Nov 26, 2012 7:31 AM minors that results in transports to the hospital or the Alcohol Recover Center on a weekly basis. While I think this is a problem, I also think it is typical for a large public university.

282 The University of Colorado at Boulder is a college located in a college town. I am Nov 26, 2012 7:28 AM aware that it is also a place that people call home and reside in 12 months of the year; however, the fact that this town has a college in it means there will be consumption of alcohol. In my four years at the University I saw maybe 2 instances of over consumption of alcohol and I would hardly call that a problem. The thing is that if you go to any other place where you lump together 18-24 year old "young adults" there will be drinking and by trying to curb it you are just igniting students/citizens desire to break the rules and try and get out of the comfort zone. Alcohol over consumption is not a problem in Boulder because students, citizens and tourists are all trying to accomplish the same thing which is to have a good time. If there are places where they can have a good time and people who are there to help (not hurt) then I believe that students, citizens and tourists are much more inclined to drink responsibly and have a safe/fun time.

283 Underage drinking. Nov 26, 2012 6:02 AM

284 Number of student tickets and medical/detox transports Nov 26, 2012 4:13 AM

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285 I think that in any college town there will be higher incidents involving alcohol, Nov 26, 2012 4:04 AM but I believe that the majority of business in the area do a good job of monitoring and regulating the amount of alcohol consumed at their establishment. I don't know the statistics but from experience working in an establishment that serves alcohol on the hill and having lived in the area the majority of alcohol related incidents involve students under the age of 21. I believe that the city has done a good job to prevent these incidents by requiring all employees of businesses who serve alcohol to take a tips course informing them of all the risks and how to handle certain situations. With the right regulations kept in place and with proper management, I believe alcohol related incidents can be avoided. I have noticed that house parties on the hill is where most people are heavily consuming alcohol because it is much easier for them and their aren't too many "rules" for them to follow. Everyone I have worked with is very educated when it comes to serving alcohol as well as handling people that are intoxicated. After reading the next question I noticed that there are negative aspects to people drinking too much, but i don't necessarily think it is a big problem. However, I will answer the question six keeping in the mind that there are negative aspects to consuming too much alcohol.

286 it is a problem everywhere. NOWHERE in the world does alcohol go un-abused. Nov 26, 2012 12:39 AM

287 Although there are many DUIs that result from drinking, there are hardly any Nov 26, 2012 12:32 AM deaths from over consumption.

288 It is exactly the same as every other college campus Nov 26, 2012 12:02 AM

289 Underage drinking occurs throughout any given week. I believe the fraternities Nov 25, 2012 10:59 PM host parties that greatly contribute to this issue. There are too many individuals being transported to BCH and the alcohol recovery center.

290 Not at all. As an older resident living around the hill in Boulder, alcohol is Nov 25, 2012 9:45 PM regulated very well for a college town. A+

291 I see too many underage college students behaving in negative experiences due Nov 25, 2012 9:20 PM to alcohol over consumption and regret it the next day and each student says alcohol is easily accessible. Some wake up in detox with no recollection of what happened the night before, some get aggressive and hurt others or themselves, while others participate in unsafe sexual practices.

292 Alcohol consumption has the potential to be a problem everywhere, not just in Nov 25, 2012 9:18 PM Boulder. I don't think there is any more of a problem in Boulder than there is elsewhere.

293 I work for the University in a position where I regularly see the impacts of over- Nov 25, 2012 9:15 PM consumption of alcohol by college students. I have lived and worked here for a year and a half and have seen enough hospital and ARC medical transports to know that access to alcohol is a problem.

294 Frat houses Nov 25, 2012 9:14 PM

295 I see no issues currently Nov 25, 2012 8:34 PM

296 Alcohol is not to blame for law breaking on the Hill; those who break the law are Nov 25, 2012 7:56 PM

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responsible for their actions regardless of their level of intoxication. Claiming that alcohol over consumption is a problem would be failing those people who consume alcohol and abide by the law.

297 I think that most attendees of bars and restaurants that serve alcohol are smart Nov 25, 2012 6:50 PM with their decisions and do not over consume. As a current student, I know that my fellow classmates and I are aware of the responsibility that comes with being 21 and that the local business work with us to ensure safety. I have not found that the over consumption of alcohol that I see is as a result of the businesses that stay open later.

298 We need to be able to eat and drink in places that are walking distance Nov 25, 2012 6:16 PM

299 After all it is a college town, I believe the kids do well at keeping it under control. Nov 25, 2012 6:11 PM

300 Boulder has no greater problem of alcohol consumption than anywhere else in Nov 25, 2012 6:01 PM the country. Any "college town" will be seen to have such a problem, but regulating the business of Boulder will not change the student-wide culture that the older generation sees as problematic. If over-consumption occurs anywhere, it is in the privacy of house parties, not bars or taverns.

301 It is handled responsibly by all parties Nov 25, 2012 6:00 PM

302 One of the healthiest areas in Colorado and look how well the academic Nov 25, 2012 5:58 PM performance is.

303 We just like to drink there is no problem with over consumption Nov 25, 2012 5:58 PM

304 The government should not infringe on the right legal adults to consume alcohol Nov 25, 2012 5:50 PM and it should not put local business under such restricting regulations

305 It is a college town, people that move here need to realize that. Nov 25, 2012 5:02 PM

306 I have never encountered problems resulting from over consumption in Boulder Nov 25, 2012 3:32 PM during my 4 + years there.

307 NO, Boulder is a classic college town, and people that go to college drink. It is Nov 25, 2012 2:53 PM as simple as that, if there is a college, there will be drinking. It's just the way it is, and there is no way to change it. College kids will find a way to drink.

308 This is a college town, a higher alcohol consumption rate is to be expected. Nov 25, 2012 2:49 PM

309 Being a college town, it is unquestionable that alcohol consumption occurs in Nov 25, 2012 2:40 PM larger quantities than perhaps outside of a college town. But I believe that the University and local police have implemented great policies and learning programs to keep students in check. In my years on this campus, I will not deny that I have seen over consumption of alcohol occur, however I have never seen anyone handle a situation poorly. I believe that most students learn their drinking limits in their college years, and when over consumption of an individual occurs, that person is very well taken care of by be it a friend or a police officer. I have never seen a situation out of the means of control.

310 I think that Boulder in general does not over consume alcohol. If one is speaking Nov 25, 2012 2:14 PM about just the area around the Hill it may seem like more consumption, but we

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must keep in mind this is a college area and atmosphere. The Hill and surrounding area is a very young group which makes it more apparent that alcohol is being used.

311 Interferes with student life, safety, and health. Nov 25, 2012 2:08 PM

312 It is a college city and alcohol use is just a fact of life. Nov 25, 2012 1:57 PM

313 i think that compared to other college towns we are average in regards to Nov 25, 2012 1:44 PM consumption of alcohal

314 Certain students (definitely not all) consume dangerous levels of alcohol and Nov 25, 2012 1:05 PM subsequently engage in dangerous behavior and activities. In general people in college drink too much, and this is bad for health.

315 The drinking age should be lowered to 18 on a strict 3.2% beer only level to Nov 25, 2012 12:20 PM reduce those overconsuming

316 It is a college town and college age individuals have only a brief window for Nov 25, 2012 11:35 AM shenanigans before we enter the work force and can no longer let loose the way that college students always have.

317 If alcohol consumption is a problem is boulder, then we have a nation wide Nov 25, 2012 10:43 AM epidemic on our hands

318 there might be higher rates of over consumption than the national average or Nov 25, 2012 10:17 AM some comparison but not anymore so than any college town.

319 pussification of america Nov 25, 2012 10:13 AM

320 People over consuming alcohol is a problem. Personal responsibility is still a Nov 25, 2012 9:33 AM thing

321 Consumption of alcohol is a function of the market demand. Sending people to Nov 25, 2012 9:13 AM liquor stores instead of bars/taverns lowers the cost of liquor purchased thereby increasing the consumption of alcohol. Over consumption is not an issue.

322 All college towns abuse alcohol; especially with our sizable student body with Nov 24, 2012 10:14 PM such a small downtown area. Everyone goes to the same bar. Monkey see, monkey do. And the monkey is getting drunk. The people who are attracted to this school are outgoing, wealthy and usually like to party.

323 Thos is a college town and every town has the same issues. Nov 24, 2012 6:34 PM

324 I don't see it effecting my health or safety. And I don't see it as a large problem Nov 24, 2012 5:19 PM in my community.

325 Boulder is a pretty amazing town, partly because it combines fantastic outdoor Nov 24, 2012 3:19 PM activities with decent nightlife. Another part of what makes Boulder great is our penchant for social liberalism - the recognition that adults have the right to engage in responsible marijuana and alcohol usage. As a former restaurant owner, I found alcohol regulation in Boulder to be a bit overreaching. Rather than focus on heavier regulation of alcohol, I believe that our town would be better served by enforcing noise ordinances, educating younger Boulderites, and

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generally encouraging safer drinking. Lastly, to deny future permits to businesses in certain areas will have the effect of creating unfair monopolies for current businesses. In the long run this may lead to businesses that would otherwise be unable to compete having an unfair advantage (i.e. consider businesses on the hill that have shut down over the years - these businesses may be able to stay around simply because they serve liquor). I do not believe that more regulation on adult behavior and entrepreneurship will lead to a better Boulder.

326 Drunk people getting injured, causing damage, especially in the Hill area Nov 24, 2012 1:24 PM

327 Alcohol consumption is a choice to be made by the adults involved. As long as Nov 24, 2012 12:32 PM liquor stores, restaurants, and bars are subject to ID checking laws there is no problem.

328 Brewing and drinking are a strong tradition in Boulder. On the whole, the Nov 24, 2012 11:56 AM majority of people consume alcohol responsibly.

329 It is a college town...boulder is no worse off than any other place....injuries and Nov 24, 2012 7:46 AM deaths will increase if kids have to go to denver for proper bars because they will be driving more instead of walking home from the bars in boulder.

330 I have not personally had any trouble with a drunk person in Boulder. Nov 24, 2012 3:53 AM

331 It is but the proposed "solutions" are absurd and only pose a threat to personal Nov 24, 2012 3:40 AM liberty. the issue of over consumption is from under aged drinkers and house parties where consumption is unmonitored. regulating businesses further is not the solution, if anything it would drive the students toward house parties and thus increase the problem.

332 Consumption of alcohol is going to happen. Boulder is no different from any Nov 24, 2012 12:16 AM other place.

333 I think over consumption of alcohol is a problem EVERYWHERE, not just in Nov 24, 2012 12:02 AM Boulder. Thats not an original story. I don’t believe the effect of these laws will be in line with their intended goals. I think education of over consumption and a safer business-law enforcement procedure/relationships will be better.

334 Over vigilance dissuades this action Nov 23, 2012 11:30 PM

335 Over consumption is a very broad term. Compared to other cities and states Nov 23, 2012 10:06 PM boulder has a relativly low alcohol related incident rate. Limiting bars to early operating hours will stifle many businesses revenues and not help growing businesses.

336 I have not seen anything that would make me think that it is a problem. Granted Nov 23, 2012 9:41 PM underage drinking is prevalent, but that doesnt mean its a problem. Its just popular

337 Students watch out for each other and know their limits. This proposal is Nov 23, 2012 9:37 PM specifically targeting those who are the future of our society. Not trusting us is insulting and demeaning.

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338 Boulder has so many other activities that people take advantage of. Drinking is Nov 23, 2012 9:15 PM the last priority for everybody because of all the other opportunities this town offers

339 I think that alcohol consumption is high in certain areas such as the hill and on Nov 23, 2012 9:11 PM pearl street. I do not think that it is a problem though because it is consumed in highest quantities at appropriate times (ie. at night) and in appropriate settings (ie. at bars and parties on the hill, etc).

340 It's a typical problem in college towns. Nov 23, 2012 9:02 PM

341 In a college town, it should be more about and not the addition Nov 23, 2012 8:59 PM of new laws preventing alcohol sale and consumption in Boulder.

342 part of the college experience, there are already enough safeguards to protect Nov 23, 2012 8:46 PM people from drinking themselves to death.

343 Social drinking is done to excess in public, i.e., public events or businesses open Nov 23, 2012 8:32 PM to the public.

344 I rarely hear about serious problems resulting from. Nov 23, 2012 8:30 PM

345 To the extent that some people make the choice to drink too much, Boulder is no Nov 23, 2012 8:29 PM worse than any other similar towns.

346 For some people, it is a problem no matter where they are, and of course this Nov 23, 2012 8:23 PM includes Boulder. But it isn't a particularly big problem in Boulder.

347 It's college Nov 23, 2012 8:20 PM

348 It's a college town. That is naturally always going to have some abuse of alcohol. Nov 23, 2012 7:17 PM Clamping down more regulations on businesses will not keep people from drinking.

349 People behave appropriately. The ones who don't always face consequences. Nov 23, 2012 7:04 PM There have not been any recent deaths, and the people going to these bars do not pose a threat to pedestrians on the hill.

350 Boulder residents are some of the most active and healthy people in America, Nov 23, 2012 6:51 PM obviously alcohol consumption is not a problem here.

351 Does it happen from time to time? Yes. Is it a problem? No. It is a social activity Nov 23, 2012 6:51 PM where for people to go out and interact and have a good time. People could be engaging in much more destructive behaviors if they didn't have this opportunity

352 It's none of your business to meddle with businesses. Nov 23, 2012 6:29 PM

353 Boulder is a college town filled with students ranging from 18 + years of age. Nov 23, 2012 6:18 PM Drinking will occur, including over consumption.

354 Students are deamed responsible adults. If alcohol is a problem for a student, Nov 23, 2012 5:48 PM laws in place will take care of that problem.

355 As a college town, alcohol consumption is normal. To make these restrictions Nov 23, 2012 5:36 PM

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would hurt local businesses and would not put an end to binge drinking.

356 It is a college town and is expected to be prevalent but is definitely not over used Nov 23, 2012 5:31 PM or abused

357 yes it is but over consumption happens everywhere, you cant regulate how much Nov 23, 2012 5:20 PM someone drinks they, they will do it if they want.

358 Because at a bar its a controlled environment, your forcing people to pearl which Nov 23, 2012 5:16 PM will lead to more uncontrolled parties on the hill and more police confrontations

359 The issue is with house parties and excessive drinking in that. These nuisance Nov 23, 2012 4:22 PM house parties disrupt neighbors and should not be tolerated. There is also a problem with underage drinking. The problem does not seem to be coming from bars, but rather when parties move to unsupervised areas, i.e. house parties.

360 I think every city battles this, and I think we need to use education and Nov 23, 2012 4:11 PM enforcement to punish businesses that are abusing over-consumption, so that the businesses that are working hard to be responsible members of the community don't suffer.

361 As with most communities that have a big conference university, there are poor Nov 23, 2012 3:06 PM choices made by unexperienced individuals. However, it does not create a major problem for neighborhoods.

362 Everyone seems to drink in controlled and safe manner. Nov 23, 2012 2:36 PM

363 No, it's a college town so it gets a bad rap, but state wide I would say Boulder's Nov 23, 2012 10:29 AM consumption is on par with other counties. If anything I would say it's safer because so many people walk to and from businesses when consuming.

364 It is a college town and I do not see how it any different from any other college Nov 23, 2012 9:29 AM town.

365 I think alcohol consumption in Boulder is at par with many other college towns. Nov 22, 2012 11:14 PM

366 Boulder is a college town; as such, it follows that binge drinking by students is a Nov 22, 2012 7:25 PM problem in Boulder. That said, studies have shown that the same applies for any city with a well educated population, and this problem is not restricted to the student population.

367 but to add more laws and regulations when the ones we have are no enforced is Nov 22, 2012 5:08 PM counter productive and will not make people drink lees

368 I almost never see problems caused by alcohol consumption in Boulder Nov 22, 2012 2:31 PM

369 I see no problems as is with the alcohol consumption in Boulder, as of now Nov 22, 2012 12:50 PM Boulder is a well oiled machine.

370 Binge drinking has become an increasing issue. Studies trace it to the increase Nov 22, 2012 10:14 AM in drinking age from the 18 for 3.2, in the 80's when Federal highway funds became linked to having a 21 age for purchase and consumption of alcohol.

371 I've never encountered any crime or devious behavior due to alcohol or other Nov 22, 2012 12:19 AM

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drugs

372 I've lived in a few college towns in this one pales in comparison to the level of Nov 21, 2012 10:29 PM drinking that goes on in others. Maybe consider offering another taxi pick-up area instead of having just the one.

373 Over consumption of alcohol is dangerous. I've seen a lot of students consume Nov 21, 2012 8:48 PM too much, too often. So, the real harm is to the drinkers, not to the neighborhoods.

374 Children and young adults, in particular, have died from overconsumption and Nov 21, 2012 8:20 PM from alcohol-related incidents (fights, car accidents, etc).

375 With CU being in Boulder I know that there is overdrinking Nov 21, 2012 7:51 PM

376 It doesn't seem out of line for the number of students in town. Nov 21, 2012 5:01 PM

377 Chill for god's sake. Kids drink. People drink. Quit regulating everything and let Nov 21, 2012 4:03 PM people be.

378 When I did live in Boulder, it never really interfered with my day-to-day living. Nov 21, 2012 3:59 PM

379 Because alcohol over consumption is a universal societal problem, especially for Nov 21, 2012 3:44 PM people my age.

380 Normal city... normal drinking... very conscience of drinking and driving... alt Nov 21, 2012 3:42 PM transportation is available in city limits.

381 Boulder has a long history of being known on both a local and national level as a Nov 21, 2012 3:31 PM "party town." This attracts people to the area for reasons that tend to perpetuate the image/reputation of the area

382 It can be given the large number of students concentrated on University Hill, but Nov 21, 2012 3:06 PM there are enough laws and regulations in place to handle them.

383 It's a college town, so it is always going to have a higher consumption rate than Nov 21, 2012 2:28 PM other nearby towns.

384 While over consumption of alcohol is a problem, I have lived in many cities and Nov 21, 2012 1:34 PM do not see boulder being any worse than other places I have lived.

385 My fellow University students are constantly making fools of themselves, and the Nov 21, 2012 1:34 PM BPD has a steady stream of alcohol-related incidents to deal with.

386 Lack of education. Nov 21, 2012 1:25 PM

387 mainly because drunk people drive and injure or kill other people; it impacts Nov 21, 2012 1:18 PM families negatively in other ways that use limited City financial resources

388 Alcohol over consumption is not a problem. There is a problem with the way Nov 21, 2012 12:26 PM drinking is a forbidden fruit for young people until age 21. Laws that try to control people's drinking age and the alcohol trade are a problem.

389 I think there may be issues with actions resulting from thoughts who consume Nov 21, 2012 12:00 PM

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alcohol, but other public health issues I don't see how the City could control consumption of alcohol an more then it does currently.

390 Noise, deaths, danger Nov 21, 2012 11:07 AM

391 Of all the problems we face this is low on the list Nov 21, 2012 11:05 AM

392 It's a college town; it probably has more consumption than the regular suburb, Nov 21, 2012 10:46 AM but going to different bars and having a good time is part of the charm of boulder.

393 I've been living in various areas of Boulder over the last 6 years. From what I've Nov 21, 2012 10:20 AM seen, people drink in Boulder about as much as people drink in any other thriving area.

394 We often have inebriated young people walking down our street making noise Nov 21, 2012 10:20 AM late at night and occasionally we have in our neighborhood large, loud parties with alcohol that young people attend by car.

395 It's a college town. I understand that "binge drinking" is an issue for academics. Nov 21, 2012 10:03 AM However; if they are going to re-evaluate this alcohol policy, perhaps they should re-eval their "Binge" definition. 5 drinks in 2 hours is not that much if you have a beer or 2 after school everyday. It sound to me like the city of Boulder is butt- hurt over weed being legalized. "Oh no, now everyone is going to be smoking weed because they can (you really think these young adults with degrees are that stupid? really?), lets make it harder to drink alcohol and socialize with friends! Live music? Nope, that already sucks in boulder, so we're going to make it even worse with these terrible alcohol policies". Get over it, if you want to raise the percentage of kids who come to school here just so they can "get high legally", go ahead and implement these taxes. Do you want to keep boulder as only a college town - and a mediocre one at that? Try out these new changes. I'll be gone by the time they're put into effect so I'll just laugh when all my friends complain to me how hard it is to go bar happing - a very american activity - and how much it smells like weed all the time. Just hire more law enforcement, make "high activity" places of business hire security, make them install cameras inside and outside, or just raise the taxes on every drink at a bar in the city. If drinking is a problem, don't take away that "problem" from all the people who adore it, just make it more expensive so most people WONT spend the money to binge drink. Seriously, who is making these policies? When you notice children fighting over a set of playing cards, do you upset ALL of them by just taking it away like an asshole, or do you find a way to teach them to use them more responsibly? Also, why would you live in a college town if you don't like noise, drinking, or partying. Fuck off and go live in louisville. No one is making anyone live right next to all of these students they don't like. Go back to California.

396 I think it's a problem that is largely centered around the University, not the entire Nov 21, 2012 9:51 AM city of Boulder. The city needs to find ways to mitigate underage drinking instead of punishing safe & legal alcohol consumption.

397 I think there is a tendency for the student population to participate in over Nov 21, 2012 9:46 AM consumption. Alcohol related deaths on campus have occurred and the disrespect shown in the neighborhoods surrounding campus would also imply alcohol over consumption.

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398 In every college town there will be heavy drinking. I have been at CU for 3 years Nov 21, 2012 9:30 AM now and for the most part everyone seems responsible about when and where they drink. Limiting alcohol sales on the hill would not make anything better. Parties would still happen as they do and the only outcome of this would be a loss of tax revenue in boulder and the state of Colorado. This would also affect some businesses on the hill that make a lot of their money through alcohol sales. These places are also what the makes the hill so special and taking part of them away would also take some future students/visitors away.

399 It is a college town, no worse than several others I have lived in. If CU wants to Nov 21, 2012 9:27 AM address this problem, let them, but its less of a concern for the city as a whole.

400 Your definition of overconsumption is flawed. You assume the problem lies with Nov 21, 2012 9:10 AM bars. The problem of overconsumption primarliy involves 1) students from CU in and around Pearl and 2) homeless buying cheap liquor and booze from liquor stores and drinking in seclusion (like under the pedestrian bridge on North Broadway). Crack down on student behavior in the university area and also the viscious cycle of homeless drinking north of town and you will eliminate a large proportion of those drinking to excess.

401 In some places and circumstances, but I am not directly impacted in my Nov 21, 2012 9:07 AM neighborhood.

402 Among students but the problemis no worse than anywhere else. Nov 21, 2012 7:28 AM

403 No more then other college towns Nov 21, 2012 7:20 AM

404 pot is an issue in boulder, not alchohol. Nov 21, 2012 7:18 AM

405 Making alcohol illegal for people under 21 only encourages the problem. The Nov 21, 2012 4:43 AM "problem" is no worse here than any other campus.

406 It is a college town. Students should have easy access to bars just as everyone Nov 21, 2012 1:29 AM else does on pearl st.

407 Especially for underage drinkers Nov 21, 2012 12:07 AM

408 Boulder is a place where the youth can come to learn and test their limits. In Nov 20, 2012 11:53 PM regards to alcohol consumption, this is especially true. It needn't be policed so roughly.

409 No more so than anywhere else Nov 20, 2012 11:49 PM

410 If consumed properly, there is no problem. It is not the fault of local businesses Nov 20, 2012 11:26 PM when alcohol is over consumed! It would happen anywhere.

411 "Over consumption" of alcohol is implicitly a problem. This a poorly worded Nov 20, 2012 11:19 PM question that begs a particular answer and proves the city's inability to even properly frame the issue.

412 I work in a city that I will not say that has an issue with over consumption so Nov 20, 2012 11:18 PM compared to that city Boulder is doing a great job. Also, this is a college town, if you want to get rid of alcohol you mine as well shut the school down. I'm pretty sure Boulder profits from the alcohol that is sold here.

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413 Yes but I think local businesses are not to blame. Nov 20, 2012 11:17 PM

414 Yes, however: over consumption is common among young people (and people Nov 20, 2012 11:11 PM who want to be young.) It happens everywhere and is not limited to university towns (it's just more concentrated there.)

415 People are not stumbling through the streets or causing problems like in most Nov 20, 2012 11:10 PM college towns. Boulderites understand responsibility.

416 College students have always drank a lot and they always will bars or no bars Nov 20, 2012 10:26 PM

417 While I think some overconsume, I think others consume in a responsible Nov 20, 2012 10:16 PM fashion and should not have this opportunity restricted.

418 Haven't had any negative confrontations with a person that has exceviley Nov 20, 2012 9:15 PM abused alcohol.

419 I live on the hill. The noise associated with drinking has never disturbed my Nov 20, 2012 8:49 PM sleep. I have never had my house vandalized because of alcohol abuse. The boulder police department and the RTD system does a great job of keeping intoxicated drivers off the streets.

420 What does the research say? How do we measure it with comparable towns? Nov 20, 2012 8:40 PM This law doesn't solve a problem that many communities deal with it that helps Boulder preserve it's uniqueness.

421 I beleive this "problem" is blown way out of proportion. This "binge drinking" Nov 20, 2012 8:35 PM phase is a phase that many young people go through, and it happens in every college town across the United States. The majority of the people who live around the businesses on the hill are students who actively patronize them. So why try to reform the laws in areas of town where the citizens are content with what they have? It is my opinion that the councilman who represents this neighborhood does not respect the opinions of the businesses or the majority of its residents.

422 I think the level of alcohol consumption that you see in Boulder is relatively Nov 20, 2012 8:13 PM standard for a college. As a college town the people in Boulder need to recognize this.

423 I think the University and surrounding environs place too much emphasis on Nov 20, 2012 8:11 PM alcohol use thereby exacerbating the problem; they are also creating problems for their own students moving forward because of their archaic rules regarding "in the presence of alcohol"

424 Its a college town, cracking down on drinking only makes it go more Nov 20, 2012 7:42 PM underground and makes it unsafe. Why not bring the drinking age back down to 18 with a college ID and teach students / the community moderation.

425 A disproportionate amount violent crimes on the hill involve alcohol Nov 20, 2012 7:22 PM

426 As a college town Boulders alcohol consumption seems appropriate if not less Nov 20, 2012 7:22 PM than other major college towns.

427 Alcohol is legal for persons over the age of 21. It is not the city of Boulder's place Nov 20, 2012 7:22 PM

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to curb people who are overage from drinking responsibly and safely.

428 College towns are always more prone to alcohol related incidences though they Nov 20, 2012 7:22 PM make front pages and stir emotions they are not unique to boulder

429 Because it's part of the college culture Nov 20, 2012 7:19 PM

430 It is a college based town and this is expected and is prominent in this type of Nov 20, 2012 7:18 PM area around the country. Public transportation and law enforcement or security would be more viable than breaking up high intensity businesses. This will create more at-home parties in condos or houses. Could also make for more drunk driving to further away places.

431 Nightlife in Boulder creates a wealth of financial benefits, and overconsumption Nov 20, 2012 7:15 PM is an issue that government should not be regulating.

432 I have been going to school in Boulder for four years and most of the people I've Nov 20, 2012 7:11 PM met seem to know how to party responsibly. People walk to the bars in groups, everyone seems to watch their alcohol consumption and knows their limits, and no one drinks and drives. Although Boulder is a huge party town, I do not believe that the drinking habits of party-goers has had much of a negative effect on the communty.

433 Boulder is a college town, filled with students from affluent families. Any college Nov 20, 2012 7:09 PM town like this will have alcohol overconsumption problems. The solution is not to punish local businesses (many of them historic essentials to Boulder) for creating jobs, but to hold the university (who is the reason for students being here in the first place) responsible for increased alcohol education and cultural change.

434 I think that some people chose to over consume alcohol, but I also think that Nov 20, 2012 7:07 PM Boulder is a college town, especially Uni Hill where a large portion of the student body lives. I think that there is as much drinking in the Uni Hill area as any other college community and that it is not over consumption as much as students living the "college life"

435 Every college town is going to have problems surrounding alcohol, but students Nov 20, 2012 7:05 PM and young adult residents in Boulder generally know how to handle themselves. Every fall there's an increase with reported alcohol abuse because of freshmen who are being introduced to partying, but it dies down after a month or so.

436 If it's a problem, it's a problem everywhere. Areas associated with the student Nov 20, 2012 7:05 PM population shouldn't be targeted unless a certain establishment has broken the law or been the origin of alcohol related complaints/violations. I think especially applies to a historical landmark such as The Sink. (My grandparents drank there for cryin' out loud)

437 It's a college town and is/should be expected. Having regulations to keep the Nov 20, 2012 7:01 PM area safe is important, but being too strict will end with worse results.

438 The idea is relative. Boulder has, is and always will be the site of a large Nov 20, 2012 6:49 PM university. University towns have a large amount of near or above drinking age students, and historically people of this age demographic always tend to drink

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alcohol socially. If suddenly, one year, the amount of drinking related deaths jumped and stayed at an elevated level, investigation into the underlying reason would be prudent. The obvious reason for this recent push towards shrinking the amount of drinking on the hill is to elevate property values. Having dive bars overrun with penny pinching college juniors and seniors does not bode well for the establishment of a quieter, more elegant business district on the hill.

439 Many fights and alcohol related problems. Nov 20, 2012 6:46 PM

440 Underage drinking, but CU does not care about giving non drinking activites to Nov 20, 2012 6:43 PM students

441 Based on my experiences at various bars and parties in Boulder I feel that Nov 20, 2012 6:41 PM alcohol over consumption is not a problem. Majority of the people drink responsibility and the amount of partying that takes place in Boulder is often over exaggerated or hyped up

442 Drinking is part of the college social culture in Boulder. Occasionally people drink Nov 20, 2012 6:38 PM to much, but I would not consider it a problem - the city makes it easy for people to get home from bars at night and most bars are pretty strict on who they let in and watching the consumption of patrons.

443 The only difference between Boulder and other college towns is that the school Nov 20, 2012 6:37 PM (and apparently now the city, as well) treat it as though it's more of a problem. It's not.

444 No, just like any college town alcohol is being consumed but I do not see it as a Nov 20, 2012 6:34 PM problem. Sure things can go wrong, but its not strange that it does happen. I believe that restricting alcohol consumption on the hill will create more problems. Changing liquor on the hill won't make anything better but rather worse. It is convenient to have some places on the hill that provide alcohol for those who are 21+. It is close to many students home; therefore, makes it safer for when they journey home. If this weren't the case people may pregame more before going down to pearl street and the bars down there.

445 Boulder is an amazing town full of people with a desire to improve themselves Nov 20, 2012 6:34 PM and their community. When the weekend comes around everybody heads to the bars for America's favorite pastime; FOOTBALL! So why would we get rid a hill environment that promotes school enthusiasm and helps keep kids from driving home because they can walk. Stop trying to ruin the hill, this a college town and town for the locals so why can't we work together to come up with a solution that is positive for both groups. Getting rid of alcohol on the hill is just an absurd idea. Its not like the cops have anything else to do in a town where 90% of all violations have to do with parking bullshit and MIP's; just have them circle the Hill more if you want to make a crack down. Stop trying to ruin a CU Buff cornerstone and keep the Hill the way it is!!!!!!

446 There is less fighting and property destruction in boulder than other large college Nov 20, 2012 6:32 PM towns I have been to

447 I do not believe alcohol over consumption is a problem in Boulder. I have been Nov 20, 2012 6:30 PM living in Boulder for 6 years started as a student and just fell in love. Yes sometimes some of Boulder's younger residents get a little rowdy but I have

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never seen it get out too out of control where it would be a problem to the city.

448 No. Enforce the laws that exist. The business on the hill is dismal when I last Nov 20, 2012 6:25 PM saw it earlier in 2012. Drinking did not appear to be a problem for me, or the President of the United States upon his visit.

449 Boulder attracts many young people to live here. Younger people tend to enjoy Nov 20, 2012 6:24 PM consuming alcohol in order to socialize with others their age. In general people aren't consuming alcohol at dangerous levels and it doesn't make the town a more dangerous place.

450 It is not a larger problem than anyone should expect with a major university Nov 20, 2012 6:23 PM present.

451 it is no different in boulder than in any other place. people get drunk just as Nov 20, 2012 6:22 PM readily on the hill as they do in colorado springs.

452 Yes, but I don't think overconsumption is a problem that is generated by Nov 20, 2012 6:21 PM restaurants and taverns. Much of the overconsumption appears to be related to parties at private residences or consuming an excess of alcohol prior to or after going to restaurants or bars. Considering much of the excessive drinking is occurring in the college-age demographic, they often do not have the funds to drink excessively at a bar and thus do it elsewhere for less money.

453 Among underage drinkers. Bars that legally serve alcohol to customers of age is Nov 20, 2012 6:13 PM not an issue of over consumption, rather a negative stigma among homeowners and other residents who are trying to influence the lifestyle of college students for their own personal interest.

454 people who don't drink are gay Nov 20, 2012 6:11 PM

455 There doesnt seem to be any excess of problems resulting from drinking done Nov 20, 2012 6:11 PM on the hill and a reduction of supervised bar drinking would just lead to more unsupervised drinking in the residential parts of boulder.

456 Alcohol overconsumption is a behavioral matter. Do not restrict businesses that Nov 20, 2012 6:11 PM are operating in response to a demand, but rather address the demand itself.

457 Greek life perpetuates it more than anything. Bars are the safest places to drink Nov 20, 2012 6:04 PM and have a good time.

458 It is not a problem that I see. Nov 20, 2012 6:03 PM

459 the fact alone that the city of boulder is looking at this is proof enough of the Nov 20, 2012 6:03 PM issue. Bars, especially those such as the Goose, need stricter regulation. This is particularly true when it comes to noise levels.

460 Alcohol consumption may be a little high in Boulder, but that is the way it is in Nov 20, 2012 6:03 PM every college town.

461 Any university town is going to have some problems with alcohol consumption, Nov 20, 2012 6:02 PM but I think as a general concern, it isn't one. It's not as if the residents of Boulder wander around wasted all the time!

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462 The over consumption of alcohol is a problem for those involved who make poor Nov 20, 2012 6:02 PM decisions. The city cannot be help responsible for those who push their limits and does not condone those actions. The vast majority controls how much alcohol they ingest and knows when to stop. Those with alcoholic tendencies should seek professional assistance or help elsewhere.

463 I think that the majority of people on The Hill drink responibly. Nov 20, 2012 6:00 PM

464 no worse in Boulder than in any other college town I've ever been in. Nov 20, 2012 6:00 PM

465 If you take away my boozes ill cook meth in my bath tub Nov 20, 2012 5:59 PM

466 No because I don't see it as a problem if the person is responsible about it. Nov 20, 2012 5:58 PM

467 In the grand scheme of it being relative to Boulder being a major site for the Nov 20, 2012 5:54 PM University...no I think it is on par for a "college" town of that size with that size of a University being there.

468 DUI's seem low, don't see drunk in public as often as I see regularly belligerent Nov 20, 2012 5:52 PM college students.

469 No, I believe that it's a small town with a very large college in the center of it. Nov 20, 2012 5:51 PM

470 It's a college campus. All college campuses tend to over-use alcohol but this Nov 20, 2012 5:51 PM initiative will not solve the problem. The problem is underage drinking and Boulder already does a fairly good job of monitoring underage drinkers as much as reasonably possible.

471 Yes, but it is not as severe as the police or city council are led to believe. Nov 20, 2012 5:51 PM

472 Mostly problematic in unrestricted in home parties, and for underage students. Nov 20, 2012 5:50 PM Less problematic in bars, where serving size, security, bartenders help keep things much more in control and safe.

473 Though I do feel it has a higher consumption amount than surrounding cities, I Nov 20, 2012 5:48 PM feel that current regulations are working fine

474 Not any more so than any younger-aged town Nov 20, 2012 5:48 PM

475 we have bigger problems to deal with other than the hill this is a college town Nov 20, 2012 5:47 PM always have been always will be

476 But it is in ALL universities. By restricting the alcohol availability it will only Nov 20, 2012 5:47 PM increase the issue...I.E. raise the amounts of DUI's and force kids to binge drink in their homes rather than establishments on the hill which will ave far worse effects on the over consumption issue.

477 Its a problem not only in Boulder, but in most of America. Nov 20, 2012 5:45 PM

478 It's an issue with certain individuals, but as a whole, people drink responsibly. Nov 20, 2012 5:45 PM

479 Wish there was a maybe button. While alcohol over consumption certainly exists, Nov 20, 2012 5:45 PM I don't think it's a rampant problem.

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480 In comparison to other cities/communities, I don't think it is that bad. I think Nov 20, 2012 5:44 PM people are relatively well mannered and responsible.

481 I think there is a small population of college students who binge drink, not the Nov 20, 2012 5:43 PM entire population of Boulder.

482 Boulder is a college town. Students go to school, work, and live in Boulder. In a Nov 20, 2012 5:42 PM college town where students make up a large percentage of residents and workers there will be a drinking culture. It is the same in other college towns. It is a natural occurrence for college students to drink.

483 The current regulations are sufficient in my 100+ times visiting Boulder. Nov 20, 2012 5:41 PM

484 no people just have there panties in a bunch, if you want to live somewhere quiet Nov 20, 2012 5:41 PM and free of college students then don't live on the hill

485 I believe that any town that has a university will have alcohol consumption; Nov 20, 2012 5:40 PM however, this town is not nearly as bad as other university towns, such as State College (Penn State).

486 Students as a whole are going to have problems here and there regardless. Nov 20, 2012 5:39 PM Boulder, as a whole, is not just students and over consumption in Boulder as a whole is certainly not a problem

487 It's a college town. Look at any other school and you'll see the same thing. It's an Nov 20, 2012 5:37 PM individuals choice regarding how much they consume. You're not going to be able to control that by imposing more strict regulations.

488 Based on demographics it seems on par. Nov 20, 2012 5:37 PM

489 Typical college town, kids are going to drink whether you want them to or not. Nov 20, 2012 5:37 PM Better to keep it legal and legitimate than make them binge drink at home.

490 People know their limits. Nov 20, 2012 5:36 PM

491 this is college, kids a gonna drink Nov 20, 2012 5:35 PM

492 Its a problem on every college campus, and prohibition didn't work why would Nov 20, 2012 5:35 PM restricting it work now?

493 It stems around a college drinking culture that is present on many university Nov 20, 2012 5:35 PM campus' across the US

494 It's no worse than anywhere else, and by restricting fun, you only move it Nov 20, 2012 5:34 PM underground... unless that's the plan to get more arrests, and more revenue for the police department. In that case, well, then I'm moving.

495 It is only a problem when underage drinking occurs. Tighter security and Nov 20, 2012 5:33 PM awareness are all it takes to reduce problems.

496 regulation works, prohibition encourages wrong doing Nov 20, 2012 5:33 PM

497 no because it lets students and residents blow off steam, otherwise boulder Nov 20, 2012 5:32 PM would end up like the school of mines in golden

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498 It is a problem in Boulder when discussing people who are UNDER age. There is Nov 20, 2012 5:32 PM not a problem when it comes to legal consumption by those 21 years of age or older.

499 There is not an over consumption of alcohol in boulder. Nov 20, 2012 5:31 PM

500 It is part of the atmosphere, and has never affected my experience in Boulder. Nov 20, 2012 5:31 PM

501 because alcohol consumption is not a problem exclusive to boulder and the Nov 20, 2012 5:31 PM heavier the restrictions are on alcohol the more dangerous situations it places those in who are drinking both legally and illegally

502 Whether you drink in bars or at house parties, you start drinking in college and Nov 20, 2012 5:30 PM usually don't stop until you are married and settled. This is life. I would personally rather have bars that check ID and cut people off when they have had too much rather than restricting the bar scene and having wild, out-of-control parties where no one is checking ID and no one is responsible. Keep bars open and keep them open until 2:30AM, at 1:45AM so that people who want to drink and socialize can without having to resort to parties in residential neighborhoods. As an older adult I like being able to drink downtown while the youngin's (people in their 20s) stay on the hill.

503 We are college students, and those of us that are old enough to drink should Nov 20, 2012 5:29 PM have the right to enjoy the bars on the Hill.

504 There are those who abuse alcohol, but that is far below the number of people Nov 20, 2012 5:29 PM who exercise cautions when drinking. I believe it would also harm the Universities ability to keep a diverse climate as well as a student population as a whole. Dont turn this into a "footloose" type town.

505 Alcohol over consumption is not a problem in the bars, rather, it is a problem with Nov 20, 2012 5:27 PM underage drinkers.

506 It is no more of an issue here than any other college town. Nov 20, 2012 5:27 PM

507 Alcohol consumption is natural in any college town. Obviously, safe alcohol Nov 20, 2012 5:27 PM consumption should be practiced more - I believe that understanding how safe alcohol consumption looks like is the best step in helping students drink safer.

508 there is very little public drunkenness Nov 20, 2012 5:26 PM

509 People will always drink. This isnt the 1920s. Nov 20, 2012 5:25 PM

510 Boulder is a neatly ran college town which includes a healthy night life and a Nov 20, 2012 5:23 PM great mix of students and residents all over the town. The police do their job in a very professional and effective manner, and even more so the longer I live here, I notice an increase in personal responsibility of everyone who is out at night (including myself quite a bit) and no 'problems' whatsoever. I think homelessness is a 'problem' in Boulder, not nonexistent 'over consumption of alcohol'.

511 Restricting alcohol to beer and wine on the hill will only hurt businesses. It will Nov 20, 2012 5:21 PM also cause people to drink in their homes more.

512 It's a college town with bars in it. Go to any other town like that and you'll find the Nov 20, 2012 5:20 PM

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same amount of drinking.

513 Alcohol overconsumption is a behavioral and cultural issue that's not specific to, Nov 20, 2012 5:09 PM or overly represented in Boulder.

514 It is a matter of health and safety for not only individuals that drink, but people Nov 20, 2012 5:08 PM that come in contact with intoxicated individuals. There are serious concerns in terms of overconsumption that lead to significant health risks including alcohol poisoning. There are also concerns of violence, especially gender violence, related to alcohol. Lastly, overconsumption decreases productivity and gets in the way of academics and works.

515 It's a college campus. I think that taking such actions is ruining the college Nov 20, 2012 1:50 PM experience and in turn diminishing the value of a CU-Boulder degree.

516 I don't believe Boulder is better or worse than other cities its size, but that Nov 20, 2012 8:52 AM Boulder participates in the culture of drinking prevalent in college, business, and sports communities.

517 When it leads to violence or destruction. Nov 19, 2012 8:39 PM

518 Only at parties on the hill with students. Nov 19, 2012 7:45 PM

519 I feel that alcohol consumption is not a problem in Boulder. It is the responsibility Nov 19, 2012 6:10 PM of the business to monitor the consumption of their patrons and stop service accordingly. Compared to other areas I have lived, Boulder businesses do this job very well with one or two exceptions.

520 Although I do think it's a problem, I don't think it's more of a problem that would Nov 19, 2012 5:22 PM be typically the case in a college town of similar size. It just goes with the age and demographics.

521 It has been a part of Boulder culture for so long. The police do a great job of Nov 19, 2012 5:12 PM regulating it. Boulder citizens are also more responsible because of it.

522 noise and conduct at 1:30 to 2:30 in the morning Nov 19, 2012 3:30 PM

523 I have lived in several different parts of the country. Boulder's alcohol Nov 19, 2012 1:55 PM consumption is not any worse than any of those places, and in fact, harsher laws already exist here in relation to DUI, restrictions, etc. than in those areas.

524 It's a college town. Excessive drinking will happen regardless of what laws are Nov 19, 2012 1:34 PM put into place.

525 Alcohol consumption is primarily a problem stemming directly from student use Nov 19, 2012 1:23 PM outside of establishments providing alcohol. Planned changes to current code would not curb any over consumption but exist only to penalize business owners and responsible citizens.

526 Too many parties in and near my neighborhood, and the resultant noise, trash, Nov 19, 2012 1:23 PM and vandalism.

527 It is no more of a problem than in any college town. Most bars and restaurants Nov 19, 2012 1:11 PM

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are trained to handle those who are over-served. The biggest binges occur at house parties (and probably mostly by those under-age).

528 Too many drunk college kids. Nov 19, 2012 1:05 PM

529 This is a college town, there is gonna be drinking. All the rich residents that live Nov 19, 2012 12:56 PM on the hill need to understand that they made the choice to live in a college town. Deal with it...

530 news stories Nov 19, 2012 12:54 PM

531 I think the university, the greek system and this generation of students are much Nov 19, 2012 12:53 PM more responsible than in the past.

532 We live in a college town which is going to skew data about alcohol Nov 19, 2012 12:16 PM consumption. However, most people are responsible and we can't let the few who aren't make it difficult for our businesses that will be around long after the students are gone.

533 No more so than any other town. Most drinkers are responsible adults. Nov 19, 2012 11:51 AM

534 I don't see a problem with the current regulations. Nov 19, 2012 11:38 AM

535 I believe that the vast majority of adults that consume alcohol in Boulder do so Nov 19, 2012 11:01 AM responsibly. I do believe that over consumption by a few should not be the driving force to changing land use regulations. Enforcement of existing laws and regulations is more important than drafting new language.

536 The business and the individual are responsible for their actions. Nov 19, 2012 8:54 AM

537 As a former CU student and long time resident of Boulder and Boulder County, I Nov 19, 2012 8:33 AM do not think that the consumption problem has changed significantly over the years. I do not think it is any better or worse than it ever was.

538 I think we need to educate people on responsible ways to consume alcohol with Nov 18, 2012 10:04 PM consequences for those who aren't responsible.

539 Relative to other communities with large national universities I believe alcohol Nov 18, 2012 7:31 PM consumption on the Hill is at or below average.

540 It is a college town with a lot of people between the ages of 18-30. This is the Nov 18, 2012 7:31 PM age where people drink and it can sometimes lead to excess. Since there is a large university, there is going to be alcohol over consumption it happens at every college.

541 The students drink on a regular basis to the point of blacking out. On Friday and Nov 18, 2012 6:48 PM Saturday nights, Pearl Street is ridden with drunk people who are loud, obnoxious and disrespectful of the residents and environment.

542 I think there are occasional problems, similar to any college town. Nov 18, 2012 4:05 PM

543 Often times, people drink heavily before even going out on the town, and then Nov 18, 2012 3:19 PM continue drinking once they're out. This causes problems not because the establishments serve excessive amounts of alcohol, but because people are

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already very drunk simply because they drank at home/friends' houses.

544 It is natural that a college town will drink more than other places. Nov 18, 2012 2:09 PM

545 Its a problem related to a University population not the town itself. Students Nov 18, 2012 1:47 PM drink at home, parties and bars. This is now and will always be the case.

546 It is a typical college town. The college students fund most of what we do, and Nov 18, 2012 1:28 PM without them the town would not be the amazing place it now is.

547 Underage under-grad drinking is excessive, but since most if that does not occur Nov 18, 2012 12:30 PM in places of business I don't see much that can be done to change the situation.

548 Over consumption of alcohol is likely a problem everywhere in the entire world. Nov 18, 2012 11:43 AM

549 MOSTLY WITH THE YOUNGER GENERATION,HOMELESS AND COLLAGE Nov 18, 2012 9:16 AM STUDENTS.FOR THE MOST PART THE ADULTS SEEM TO BE GETTING IT.IF YOU GO TO TO THE SINK OR SUNDOWNER YOU WILL SEE BOOZE BEING MISUSED.IF YOU GO TO THE MED OR OTHER DINNER PLACE YOU WILL SEE PEOPLE BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR THA MOST PART.

550 Among those old enough to attend taverns and night clubs it is not. The first few Nov 18, 2012 8:55 AM weeks of school are always bad with the new freshman and that is a completely seperate issue.

551 it is a college town.. just stand on the hill on a thursday night Nov 18, 2012 7:24 AM

552 There are people who drink and don't drink. If you do drink, hopefully you don't Nov 18, 2012 1:57 AM over indulge

553 It is legal in boulder and is controlled properly by law. No further government Nov 18, 2012 12:50 AM intervention needed

554 The majority of students tend to take of themselves, there are of course Nov 17, 2012 11:38 PM exceptions, but industries and other people's fun should not be punished for this.

555 It's college, there is no addiction problem. Students should be experimenting and Nov 17, 2012 10:46 PM figuring out their tolerance

556 I think the high consumption of alcohol, particularly on the hill, is to blame for Nov 17, 2012 10:41 PM much of the crime that happens there.

557 No, not concerning the drinking that takes place at bars. Any over consumption Nov 17, 2012 10:33 PM that takes place happens in private residences, by people who are most often under the age of 21. Retooling the rules that govern alcohol consumption at bars and dining establishments on University Hill will solve no problem, and will ultimately just upset the countless residents, alumni, and travelers who are over the age of 21.

558 Alcohol is legal. Nov 17, 2012 8:56 PM

559 College kids abusing alcohol, depending on alcohol, etc. Not using it Nov 17, 2012 7:58 PM appropriately.

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560 For the most part the bar tenders and doormen at the bars on Pearl street and Nov 17, 2012 7:14 PM on the Hill do a good job of regulating and monitoring the status of each patrons level of intoxication.

561 For the amount of people in boulder the rate of problems isn't very large. Nov 17, 2012 7:03 PM

562 It is no different than any other college town. Nov 17, 2012 6:48 PM

563 I think young people need to have 3.2 beer as I did when I was there age. I think Nov 17, 2012 6:11 PM this would help alleviate the problem of them chugging hard alcohol before they go out for the night.

564 It's no different than anywhere else, if someone wants to drink alcohol they Nov 17, 2012 6:01 PM should be able to, it's their right so long as they do not drink and drive.

565 It's a college community that everyone loves and appreciates the way it is. Nov 17, 2012 6:00 PM

566 It's a college town. Nov 17, 2012 5:40 PM

567 Other colleges are much worse Nov 17, 2012 5:30 PM

568 Not any more then any other town. Why don't you address all the Homeless Nov 17, 2012 4:27 PM people that harrass our customers.

569 It's a college campus, it happens all over the world. It's a youth thing people all Nov 17, 2012 2:22 PM need to go through to learn how to be responsible.

570 No it is not for people of age. Most of the problems I see are with underaged Nov 17, 2012 2:15 PM drinkers that do not know how to act under the influence.

571 The form of the question itself suggests that the author is of the opinion that too Nov 17, 2012 1:01 PM much alcohol is consumed in Boulder. It is no more a "problem" in Boulder than in any other location (worldwide) where one finds a congregation of restaurants, bars, and students. To force fees on local establishments or limit alcohol service will merely push alcohol consumption to private residences; perhaps next door to this question's author.

572 Over-consumption would have the streets littered with violence and derelicts. Nov 17, 2012 12:48 PM Boulder's streets are safe.

573 My son and his friends drink excessively in the University Hill area. They are Nov 17, 2012 10:31 AM heavily into hard liquor. They do not pass out (go to sleep), but drink until they "black out", meaning they continue to be awake and consume, with no recollection the next day. Could be stimulants are allowing them to keep consuming. In my day, we drank a lot in college, but it was 90% beer. We only drank alcohol in bars and as mixed drinks, maybe tequila shots now and then. These kids seem to primarily consume hard liquor. Can you possibly limit uni-hill area liquor stores to beer and wine only, and no stimulants like red bull and stimulant/alcohol mixtures? Start with Rose Hill .

574 Living in or near Boulder for almost 20 years, I see no more overuse or abuse of Nov 17, 2012 10:14 AM alcohol in Boulder than anywhere else. Responsible drinkers remain responsible.

575 As a college town Boulder does not exhibit higher rates of consumption than Nov 17, 2012 10:10 AM

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other similar towns. Higher rates of law enforcement lead to increased statistical data that may suggest otherwise.

576 It's a college town. Idiot teenagers/20 somethings are not going to curb their Nov 17, 2012 9:37 AM drinking because city council has decided to put more restrictions on businesses.

577 I think that every city has its issues with alcohol. Changing the allowable Nov 17, 2012 9:28 AM proximity to CU DOES NOT change the fact that students will travel a longer distance for alcohol, its not going to change their drinking habits! Not allowing restaurants and taverns in close proximity to serve alcohol will destroy these businesses and the tax revenue that comes from them. Students will be walking farther and then returning home after drinking walking a longer distance and we all know the problem the city already has with cars and pedestrians! Even at my age our family with kids likes going to these businesses before over after events at CU, we would go elsewhere if we couldn't get a beer with our meal.

578 On the hill area, & among college students and underage students. Nov 17, 2012 8:59 AM

579 Alcohol consumption is a personal choice issue. It is not my business how much Nov 17, 2012 8:46 AM someone else drinks, unless they attempt to drive, which we have laws, or are disorderly, where, again, we currently have laws.

580 I think it is on par with most college towns. Nov 17, 2012 7:33 AM

581 It has alwasys been the same or more. Now, there are just more bored cops Nov 17, 2012 7:14 AM turing kids into criminals.

582 It's college. Alcohol will be consumed regardless of what you do to stop it. Nov 17, 2012 6:36 AM

583 It is at the appropriate level. Nov 17, 2012 6:02 AM

584 Drinking Is going to occur no matter what! If drinking is banned in boulder it will Nov 17, 2012 4:20 AM cause so many working class citizens to loose their jobs. Colorado seems to think smoking pot is ok now but is trying to Ban alcohol. It's a joke. If the law is passed it will never last,

585 Never see much evidence of over consumption and the city needs to realize this Nov 16, 2012 10:37 PM is a college town.

586 My observation is that compared to many similar sized communities that Boulder Nov 16, 2012 10:18 PM is on par with others in terms of the number of people who consume alcohol and those that consume more than advisable amounts. With the recent change in legal status of cannibis, there may some that eshew alcohol and ingest other recreational imparements.

587 It is a college town where there will be drinking as well as a high level of income Nov 16, 2012 9:50 PM so people go out a lot to public facilities.

588 The majority of students drink very responsibly Nov 16, 2012 8:59 PM

589 There is nothing to explain, boulder has bars and taverns and people go there Nov 16, 2012 8:01 PM and drink. It doesn't mean that everyone that goes out in boulder is over consuming.

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590 No because boulder bars and restaurants do a fantastic job of regulating IDs and Nov 16, 2012 7:42 PM amount of alcohol served to customers

591 A vast majority of the citizens in Boulder never have an issue with alcohol Nov 16, 2012 7:33 PM

592 Closing businesses won't change underage drinking. Nov 16, 2012 7:23 PM

593 It's a safe liberal town. Nov 16, 2012 7:21 PM

594 We are a college town... we drink and party just as any other college town. Nov 16, 2012 7:18 PM However, we are not infamous for our drinking, we pride ourselves in our scholastics, sports and many other things on campus. The issue at hand isn't the bars, it's underage drinking at the fraternities. There is nothing wrong with the way the bars are now, it's the underage drinking that continuously occurs at the frat houses.

595 Its a college town. people are stressed and sometimes need to get out, go to the Nov 16, 2012 7:05 PM bar and have a shot or two to let loose.

596 CU is known nationwide as a party school. Often up there in the top 10. There's Nov 16, 2012 6:31 PM a reason for this - Boulder allows and even encourages, through lack of enforcement, inadequate laws or some other reason I'm not aware of, over consumption and lawlessness.

597 Probably no different than any other college town. While tragic situations may Nov 16, 2012 6:26 PM occur, I don't believe you can legislate the problem away. Maybe some consumption education?

598 No, and I used to live near Boulder for years, and was just there not long ago. Nov 16, 2012 6:25 PM Part of what makes Boulder such a great place is to have freedom. Sometimes it is just that the reality and perspective get challanged again! Please don't chang Boulder, for the public, or the buisness owners!!

599 However, I believe it is a problem in nearly every community. Also, you should Nov 16, 2012 6:24 PM add "parent of a student in Boulder" to question #4.

600 It's no more of a problem in Boulder than anywhere else in the country. Except Nov 16, 2012 5:55 PM maybe Utah.

601 Every town has it's share of over-indulgers. Boulder is no exception and one of Nov 16, 2012 5:49 PM the healthiest city's in the country. Limiting alcohol at businesses on The Hill, which already strictly enforce no underage drinking, will have a negative impact on all businesses on The Hill—discouraging responsible patrons of legal drinking age to come to The Hill.

602 It's no more a problem here than other college towns Nov 16, 2012 5:45 PM

603 Here is the real deal, My family had Tico's and Florence Bear Jewerly I must say Nov 16, 2012 5:33 PM this , "Lets not look to the business who invest and build restaurants and Bars to UP there investments to cover the shortages in the county coffers but instead lets INSPIRE and MOTIVATE our young and capable soon to enter the work place students and residents of the Great city of BOULDER to build Businesses and Create Jobs that will stimulate the economy lets GROW TO THE SKY !

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Lets teach RESPONSIBILITY and TOLERANCE AND THAT CAN BE OUR LEGACY ! The Chairman 11 / 16 / 2012

604 It is managed correctly and restricted to specific areas where there is usually Nov 16, 2012 5:18 PM proper risk management policies.

605 It increases revenue for local businesses Nov 16, 2012 5:16 PM

606 Having done my undergrad elsewhere, I was surprised when I arrived in Boulder. Nov 16, 2012 5:11 PM At my undergrad fake ids were accepted as long as the picture matched and campus safety rarely took any action to curb drinking underage or legal. In Boulder, a much larger college town, I saw two people cuffed and many more rejected from drinking establishments my first night in town. I believe that people will always find a way to abuse alcohol in their late teens and early twenties and efforts to limit these transgressions usually call for students to become more creative and hurts local businesses who support Boulder wholeheartedly.

607 It seems that things are more under control than they once were. I think the Nov 16, 2012 4:31 PM management and enforcement have been great.

608 Safe environment and most students aren't driving under the influence of Nov 16, 2012 4:12 PM alcohol.

609 Not an issue. Nov 16, 2012 4:11 PM

610 The Hill is a college town location so sure there are Nov 16, 2012 3:46 PM

611 But I also think it is a problem in most cities in the US. The large social culture Nov 16, 2012 3:43 PM built around binge drinking creates various problems.

612 I dont think its a "problem" necessarily. I do think it is a concern that we need to Nov 16, 2012 3:36 PM stay on top of

613 Of course over consumption of alcohol is a problem, but not a problem that is Nov 16, 2012 3:34 PM specific to or caused by Boulder's liquor laws.

614 I've been here for 3 months and it hasn't struck me as a problem Nov 16, 2012 3:31 PM

615 A persons consumption of alcohol should not be controlled or monitored by Nov 16, 2012 2:46 PM another. We tried this once with prohibition in the 1930s and it failed miserably. Crime increased, more people died from alcohol poisoning, etc.

616 I have frequented many establishments in the 20+ years I've lived in Boulder at a Nov 16, 2012 2:44 PM variety of different hours and locations. I rarely see a disturbance of note. The only serious disturbances I have myself ever witnessed have been at the fraternity houses, not at any commercial venue.

617 It is a huge problem on the Hill. Nov 16, 2012 2:35 PM

618 Only because Boulder is a college campus. I believe the restaurants in Boulder Nov 16, 2012 2:23 PM regulate the consumption of alcohol very well.

619 Boulder restaurants take a responsible approach to serving alcohol. It's a cultural Nov 16, 2012 2:17 PM problem.

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620 Because I do not think it is. Nov 16, 2012 2:08 PM

621 It is, but will not be solved without addressing its root causes. Nov 16, 2012 1:53 PM

622 Consumption of alcohol is prevalent in many communities. Boulder has a highly Nov 16, 2012 1:49 PM concentrated cluster of restaurants and bars that facilitate this activity. This density may make it appear as if there is more consumption than usual, but it is no more than any other area.

623 Due to absurdity of 21 minimum drinking age. Nov 16, 2012 1:44 PM

624 Lack of alcohol education has led alcohol consumers to irresponsibly consume Nov 16, 2012 1:33 PM and cause problems for others

625 College kids. That's all. Nov 16, 2012 1:32 PM

626 I lived in Boulder about 20 years ago. I didn't perceive a city-wide problem then. Nov 16, 2012 1:29 PM Nor do I believe a city-wide problem exits now. I long have had the impression that bars and restaurants in Boulder take a responsible approach to serving alcohol. As a society, we do so much to glorify alcohol consumption that the problem really is one of consumer education and, really, a need for a cultural shift. Penalizing businesses for the reckless conduct of some individuals is not the answer.

627 Very familiar with the student life and the high student population. Over drinking Nov 16, 2012 1:10 PM is very common, and makes the location dangerous.

628 If your over 21 you have every right to get hammered if you want to Nov 16, 2012 1:07 PM

629 People make their own choices Nov 16, 2012 1:07 PM

630 It's a college town! I don't think its the provision that's a problem, it's people Nov 16, 2012 1:05 PM being dumb. Changing the rules will not stop them from being idiots, they'll just buy their alcohol somewhere else.

631 I believe a lot of students and young adults over drink in Boulder, but that is Nov 16, 2012 1:03 PM common in most college towns. I think it is their responsibility to monitor their alcohol consumption not the towns. Others shouldn't have their access to alcohol limited because some can't be responsible.

632 Alcohol over consumption is mainly a problem that is related to underaged Nov 16, 2012 1:01 PM drinking, not due to the operations of "high intensity" businesses.

633 Isn't it in every college town?? Nov 16, 2012 12:45 PM

634 Because it is a college town, overconsumption will always be a problem, mostly Nov 16, 2012 12:39 PM at house parties

635 Though incidents occur sometimes it is hardly a problem that requires Nov 16, 2012 12:36 PM government intervention. The negative elements are a result of student culture not business practices. Making life harder on local businesses in an already difficult economy will do nothing to help the problem the city seems to perceive.

636 The problems with alcohol stem from students drinking excessively. While this Nov 16, 2012 12:31 PM

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may be an issue for certain individuals it does not impact the overall cultural milieu of Boulder.

637 Boulder is the same as any other town. The outliers who consume in excess are Nov 16, 2012 12:24 PM present in every city of it's size.

638 College students are going to drink. Its a common trend across every college in Nov 16, 2012 12:21 PM America. By removing the bars liquor licenses on the hill, all your doing is restricting revenue for the city and local businesses, and probably making pearl street a much more popular destination. If you take away Ks China, The Goose, The Sink, your really just going to divert traffic away from the hill and honestly many non-alcoholic local businesses will also suffer from the lack of drunk foot traffic.

639 Over-consumption of alcohol is a personal problem, not a problem to be Nov 16, 2012 12:12 PM addressed by government.

640 it comes with the territory. Boulder is a student town and young people are, and Nov 16, 2012 12:12 PM have always been, 'enjoying life'. The area under discussion has always been student town.

641 I think asking the question is the answer. If you have students anywhere there is Nov 16, 2012 11:47 AM typically over consumption; go after the violators on both sides; don't over regulate

642 Every college town that is full of bars has a population that consumes alcohol on Nov 16, 2012 11:17 AM a regular basis. Over consumption is not the problem as it is exaggerated because of it being a college town.

643 I do not feel over consumption is a problem. Adults 21+ could be more educated Nov 16, 2012 11:09 AM about what their decisions can lead to with drinking alcohol however. I feel poor decisions and abuses of liquor licenses are being highlighted with this initiative, not over consumption.

644 there might be some people who struggle with alcohol as there is in every Nov 16, 2012 11:04 AM community but i don't think it is a problem for boulder

645 Have not seen that particular problem apparent during any visits to Boulder Nov 16, 2012 10:55 AM

646 Over consumption by younger college age people on University Hill is a problem Nov 16, 2012 10:49 AM due to the concentration of bars serving liquor til 2 am. The density of bars makes UniHill has created a well-documented history of increased police calls, vandalism, crime, noise, and violence especially violence against women. Further, the density of late nite serving bars on Uni Hill has severe negative affects on the surrounding residential neighborhood including increased noise, fights, trash, vandalism, violence especially attacks on women.

647 Alcohol over consumption is a problem in almost every city in the country, Nov 16, 2012 10:47 AM especially college towns. This is a bias question.

648 It's a problem most colleges have and Boulder is no worse than other similarly- Nov 16, 2012 10:32 AM sized university town

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649 It is a problem for individual students, but I do not see it as a problem that Nov 16, 2012 9:21 AM impacts the quality of life in the city overall that significantly. If there is an exception, it is overly loud, overly late house parties in neighborhoods, such as mine, but I would say this is a fairly minor issue.

650 It's not. Fabricated issue by UHNA and Council. Nov 16, 2012 9:21 AM

651 I don't see it that much, but if there's a survey about it, it's probably somewhat of Nov 16, 2012 9:20 AM a problem...

652 The hill is unique, Colorado is about freedom, look at the last election, do not Nov 16, 2012 9:18 AM make it harder to do business find something else to do

653 College students overindulge, it will be a problem with any college town. Nov 16, 2012 8:31 AM

654 It is no more a problem than in any other college town. I'm a Boulder native but Nov 16, 2012 8:07 AM have also lived in Missoula, MT and Fort Collins. My partner hails from Athens, GA. Boulder isn't any worse than any of those towns.

655 I was raised in and lived for 60 years in a Midwestern university community and Nov 16, 2012 6:51 AM so am familiar with the environment. In my visits to Boulder I have not observed it as a problem. My experience is that over consumption occurs from package liquor stores and resulting underage drinking not well run business establishments

656 Explanation oughtn't be necessary for such response. Nov 16, 2012 12:57 AM

657 I believe it is typical of most college towns Nov 15, 2012 11:35 PM

658 Boulder is a great drinking town with an amazing beer culture! Nov 15, 2012 10:27 PM

659 With any college there are issues, but the challenge is in educating and also Nov 15, 2012 10:16 PM creating an environment that doesn't vilify, but instead promotes responsible social activities

660 From what I've seen, even at the so-called college bars downtown, over- Nov 15, 2012 10:11 PM consumption of alcohol is not leading to negative impacts on the city. The police do an excellent job of monitoring and curtailing any extraordinarily bad behavior, and are diligent about arresting drunk drivers.

661 too many police on the prowl!!! Nov 15, 2012 9:44 PM

662 People drink alcohol, I drink alcohol, young people drink alcohol. Boulder has no Nov 15, 2012 9:38 PM more problem than any other place.

663 This is a storied college town. The atmosphere fits who we are as Boulderites. Nov 15, 2012 9:14 PM

664 I think it's reflective of a college town; I don't think it's representative of a Nov 15, 2012 8:18 PM problem.

665 It has never been a problem. Over consuming I'd not the cause of noise or Nov 15, 2012 8:00 PM vandalism.

666 University students, as at many universities, can take it a little to far in their Nov 15, 2012 7:42 PM

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youthful zealous for fun.

667 Yes, among college students who become obnoxious or risky. Nov 15, 2012 7:42 PM

668 Most, if not all, of the college students who are placed on a police holds in Nov 15, 2012 7:12 PM Boulder County for public intoxication are drinking distilled alcohol.

669 No more than any other metro city. Nov 15, 2012 6:59 PM

670 No more so than any other university town Nov 15, 2012 6:56 PM

671 There isn't a problem with over consumption in Boulder, what there is a problem Nov 15, 2012 6:28 PM with is a few students that can not control themselves, behaving badly in public and ruining it for everyone else.

672 Alcohol over consumption is a problem in all college towns Nov 15, 2012 6:19 PM

673 I see it as normal business in PAC12 towns...it's more about personal Nov 15, 2012 6:05 PM responsibility than what is available in restaurants.

674 It's a college town, alcohol is part of the college culture and experience. Nov 15, 2012 5:55 PM

675 I think that alcohol is consumed at an average rate with other cities of similar Nov 15, 2012 5:47 PM nature: college towns.

676 I don't honestly think it's any worse than when I was growing up here in the Nov 15, 2012 5:46 PM 1970s.

677 No because of the responsible people involved in the LEGAL of 21 years old Nov 15, 2012 5:34 PM consumption of alcohol

678 I think the problem is With student parties, not establishments who reserve the Nov 15, 2012 5:27 PM right to cut off patrons who have had too much.

679 Only on uni hill where I live. Nov 15, 2012 5:26 PM

680 seems to be the same as similar sized cities/college towns across the country - Nov 15, 2012 4:44 PM Iowa City, Madison, etc.

681 No not any more or less than any other college town. Yes college kids and adults Nov 15, 2012 4:38 PM dr.ink. If people have a problem with that they need to more outside of a college town

682 Lived in Bldr 18 yrs. Family still there. Worked at CU 12 yrs. Mostly I view the Nov 15, 2012 4:36 PM booze issue related to driving. It's very bad. In front of mom's there's an accident every day and its pretty obvious from the way in which PD officers handle it - DUI. There's lots of DUIs and its growing larger in numbers. After a big party or an evening of party, people drive home or somewhere. That's when they are found.

683 This is a personal behavior issue, not a zoning issue. Society glorifies drinking Nov 15, 2012 4:13 PM in advertising. Zoning can't impact that, only personal choices. Zoning changes will only make people move to another drinking spot, not improve behavior or reduce oversonsumption

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684 I don't know Nov 15, 2012 4:08 PM

685 Alcohol consumption seems to be average for a university town. Nov 15, 2012 4:02 PM

686 With regards to the downtown area, I do not think over consumption is a Nov 15, 2012 4:01 PM problem. On the hill, I think that college is college, and part of going to college is getting drunk. Furthermore, access to alcohol is not the principal driver of over consumption issues. Over consumption is driven by people: their sense of responsibility, their culture and their lifestyles. If anything, people who have over consumed alcohol have done so at home or at parties, where alcohol is less expensive than in a bar.

687 Alcohol over-consumption happens everywhere. Nov 15, 2012 3:54 PM

688 If it is , it is the same everywhere Nov 15, 2012 3:40 PM

689 There is a culture of drinking associated with the University; too many students Nov 15, 2012 3:25 PM come here to drink. Students from surrounding towns also come here to party on the weekends.

690 too much cheap alcohol readily available to young people under and over 21. Nov 15, 2012 3:21 PM College students AND hight school students.

691 The HIll is awesome for this town. It keeps college students centered around an Nov 15, 2012 3:12 PM area so that law enforcement doesn't have to worry as much about drinking and driving or other crimes!

692 The evidence of overconsumption is in vandalism, fights, automobile accidents, Nov 15, 2012 3:09 PM obnoxious behavior and general hooliganism.

693 I live on the Hill and have for 30+ years. The students are a nightmare with Nov 15, 2012 3:07 PM parties, late night drinking, urinating on lawns, vandalism and other forms of property destruction. Law enforcement is not on top of these issues. Need more enforcement on the Hill, especially Thurs. through Sunday.

694 It's a college town with a young population. People drink. That's natural (and Nov 15, 2012 3:06 PM legal). It's only a "problem" because people in Boulder choose to make it one.

695 It is given to students. Nov 15, 2012 3:03 PM

696 Boulder is a college town, we have been plagued by the media as some sort of Nov 15, 2012 3:02 PM anomaly. The atmosphere in Boulder surrounding drinking has gotten better in the past five years I've lived here and is no different in any other college town.

697 Have been disturbed in the middle of the night by loud parties and fireworks. Nov 15, 2012 2:59 PM Have experienced vandalism to my property, including destruction of my back fence by an SUV speeding through the alley and crashing through my back fence, destruction of parts of my front yard fence, trash (plastic cups, beer cans, etc.) being thrown into my yard, half empty beer cans being left on my front porch, and small trees (planted by the city) on the street side in front of my house being cut down or kicked down on at least 3 occasions over the years. I'd say these incidents were probably related to over consumption of alcohol.

698 I think they're are a bounch of kids hell bent on getting themselves hammered on Nov 15, 2012 2:56 PM

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the weekends

699 Drinking is in fact a part of college and Boulder having one of the top Universities Nov 15, 2012 2:50 PM here obviously there will be drinking but not more than any other town and even if there is drinking people who are above the legal drinking age should receive the same rights as any other person in any other city!

700 It's a college town and college kids partake in drinking but it's not an issue. Nov 15, 2012 2:48 PM

701 college! Nov 15, 2012 2:43 PM

702 People like to have a good time. There are many people who drink responsibly in Nov 15, 2012 2:33 PM this town. There always will be a few who do not, regardless of laws and rules.

703 There is a pervasive culture of alcohol which over the years has led to increased Nov 15, 2012 2:26 PM violent crime and overall degradation of the University Hill neighborhood and its quality of life. The alcohol-related impacts on this historic Boulder community range from noise, trash, graffiti, deterioration of housing stock to assaults, rape, and homicide, which impact ALL Hill residents. In addition,the dangerous over- consumption of alcohol (both at house parties and in bars) by college students causes many young people to end up in the emergency room on any given weekend. We are enabling this destructive behavior by our inaction as a community. The Hill Business District has also become economically unsustainable as a result.

704 No -- people are adults and can be responsible for themselves. Nov 15, 2012 2:23 PM

705 Just at the housing for students. Nov 15, 2012 2:21 PM

706 Ive lived In many college towns. Alcohol consumption is tame compared to them. Nov 15, 2012 2:14 PM

707 It is a college town. It is a normal amount if consumption for one. Nov 15, 2012 2:10 PM

708 It is on par for other cities of the same size with a major university. Nov 15, 2012 2:01 PM

709 No one really gets hurt or gets serious alcohol related problems. Nov 15, 2012 2:00 PM

710 Though most is among the student population in house parties and NOT in Nov 15, 2012 1:58 PM licensed establishments

711 I think Boulder is a health driven town and over consumption is not conducive to Nov 15, 2012 1:57 PM that

712 Restorative justice cases at CU are very nearly all liquor related. Nov 15, 2012 1:54 PM

713 Restorative justice cases at CU are very nearly all liquor related. Nov 15, 2012 1:54 PM

714 I don't believe BOULDER has any greater issue than other college towns of Nov 15, 2012 1:48 PM equal size. I do believe that binge drinking by underage individuals is problematice across the country

715 Many other schools have far more bars and less regulations and don't have Nov 15, 2012 1:46 PM issues with over consumption. Whether or not the bars are regulated will not help as everyone will just binge drink in their own homes. Wouldn't you rather them

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do it at a bar promoting more taxes and where bartenders can regulate their drinking?

716 The level on alcohol consumption in Boulder is equal to comparable college Nov 15, 2012 1:45 PM towns in America.

717 Over occupancy / house party availability enables unsupervised, and typically, Nov 15, 2012 1:43 PM under age drinking. CU students typically don't live in dorms, and the city has not prioritized nuisance party infractions to any meaningful degree. CU also has not put effective disciplinary consequences in place for students who get caught underage or other alcohol related charges.

718 the problem, if it exists, is limited to a few specific blocks and does not impact Nov 15, 2012 1:41 PM the rest of the city.

719 Until a series of severe consequences occur from the current level of alcohol Nov 15, 2012 1:39 PM consumption in Boulder I see no reason to change how things are currently operated. From my experience with students from CU ( I assume that's where the perceived problem is believed to originate from) I have had nothing but friendly interactions with them. Naturally small infractions will occur but those same infractions will happen everywhere alcohol is present.

720 College town! Nov 15, 2012 1:30 PM

721 The consumption of alcohol in Boulder is on par with most any other place in the Nov 15, 2012 1:28 PM country, especially those with a younger constituent. Trying to kill the Hill will just displace drinking to house parties where there is no-one watching how much people drink. Prohibition fails every time, it only increases the problems.

722 I live right downtown and it isn't that loud or busy at night even on the weekends, Nov 15, 2012 1:27 PM compared to most towns. There really aren't even that many late night bars in town, and almost all of them are on Pearl or the Hill. Maybe the Hill has drinking issues, but its a college area and that is to be expected; as long as college kids stay there to drink, the rest of town is pretty quiet.

723 I think alcohol over consumption is a problem in colleges across the nation, not Nov 15, 2012 1:12 PM Boulder specifically.

724 It's a great college town. No worse than others. Nov 15, 2012 1:08 PM

725 Boulder is a college town. It has pretty much always been a college town. Nov 15, 2012 1:07 PM College towns, inherently, have a higher alcohol consumption rate than other locations nationwide. This will not end, nor should it. The claims by those who have proceeded with this vendetta against a VERY prominent portion of Boulder residents are substantiated only by their inability to recognize that they must share this environment with those who add a substantial amount of benefit to this community, it's businesses, it's residents, it's culture, and especially it's coffers! I would like to hear these same individuals preaching when there taxes increase due to reduced alcohol sales tax revenue. Long live the Buffs, the relationship between the Buffs and Boulder, and the outstanding traditions of the University of Colorado as one of the best places to attend undergraduate and graduate studies IN THE WORLD. Boulder is about more than just your perception of your own property values, and the fact that the Hill and pearl Street are not your

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personal haven for boredom and serenity between the hours of 11pm-3am.

726 Over consumption is a part of life, especially a part of young adults' lives. Nov 15, 2012 1:00 PM

727 Thursday, Friday, and Saturday nights in Boulder are a catastrophe! The streets Nov 15, 2012 12:58 PM are over-run with youths getting obscenely drunk and causing mayhem around the town! They are always terrorizing private property and non-partying residents. The drinking problem has gotten out of hand. Boulder is known nation- wide as the utopia for inmature teens and irresponsible adults to come get obscenely drunk and use drugs with no consequences whatsoever. This needs to stop!

728 It's a problem in every university town, not just Boulder. Nov 15, 2012 12:56 PM

729 Stand on Uni Hill at bar close any Thursday, Friday or Saturday night, and Nov 15, 2012 12:47 PM observe the patrons leaving the bars. Even a casual observation will show many people so drunk they can barely stand or walk. That is a working definition of over consumption.

730 Alcohol over consumption is not an issue within the Boulder city limits as each Nov 15, 2012 12:44 PM individual should be accountable for their own consumption. Each individual should hopefully know their own limits and in turn over consumption is not a problem. It is not the cities rights or responsibility to be accountable for the level of alcohol consumed by each individual. It is the cities right and responsibility to be present in regards to holding the law of .08% and such related laws to each individuals responsibilities.

731 People get super drunk all of the time. Nov 15, 2012 12:40 PM

732 It causes major problems and leads to violence, vandalism, loud noise, etc. we Nov 15, 2012 12:39 PM live in Chautauqua area and are awoken multiple times a night to loud, yelling, and or fighting people - all drunk. Drunk people have also vandalized our home - typically 2 to 3 vandal issues each year. In past homes we NEVER had a single vandal issue. We have lived in this house for 9 years now and the issues have increased over time. It all corresponds to CU being in session - no issues when they are in break and more quiet in summer.

733 House parties in the University Hill area are not controlled and because of the Nov 15, 2012 12:35 PM lack of enforcement of city codes (alcohol and noise) leads this to be the venue of choice for student drinkers, over and under 21 years of age and over consumption. In my, and other neighbors' opinion, this over-rides all the effort and concern about regulating the licensed alcohol venues.

734 Trash all over pearl street and the hill, loud and rambunctious behavior, crimes Nov 15, 2012 12:34 PM like vandalism, assault.

735 Because it is a college town. Nov 15, 2012 12:33 PM

736 I live on the Hill. there are loud gangs of college students roaming the streets all Nov 15, 2012 12:22 PM night, drunk.

737 I am looking at crimes and accidents related to people being drunk. Nov 15, 2012 12:20 PM

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738 It's in not a question if drinking is an issue to Boulder. Ask if every college area Nov 15, 2012 12:19 PM has a "drinking" issue. Exclude the college and there is no issue in Boulder. Now take into consideration of the hill it is memories for alumni and an experience to all legal students. If there was any over consumption it would be at the house parties and Greek life where there is no educated supervision. People who are legal and drinking on the hill are not causing havoc or being an inconvenience to Boulder. If anything, the Hill brings in revenue in more ways than one to the city which helps more people than house parties. If Boulder were to only allow beer and wine on the Hill, than people with allergies will be excluded which would result in loss of revenue.

739 For a college town, it is fairly under control. Nov 15, 2012 12:14 PM

740 Prohibition just encourages drinking. You can't smoke unless it's weed and you Nov 15, 2012 12:13 PM can't drink unless it's beer or wine? Quit trying to get into everyones life and leave us alone

741 Federal bullying on drinking age laws are the true culprit. If rational laws around Nov 15, 2012 12:01 PM the undeniable reality of drinking before 21 years of age we're in force, binge drinking, neighborhood parties (and consequent neighborhood disturbances) and problem businesses would be greatly diminished. See Europe.

742 I believe the alcohol consumption in Boulder is at the same level as any large Nov 15, 2012 11:42 AM University town and it up to the town and residents to educate, but not regulate.

743 Because I primarily go out downtown and do not go to frat parties on the hill or in Nov 15, 2012 11:41 AM the dorms where alcohol abuse may be an issues

744 Most students are not old enough to go to the bars, so they go to house parties. Nov 15, 2012 11:38 AM They over drink because they are immature and responsible drinking is the farthest thing from their mind. The alcohol is free and available, and they look to get drunk.I dont think theres anything that could change this other than lowering the drinking age - which is not something that we can do as a city, I know that.

745 This is standard culture in a college town. Alcohol consumption is a result of Nov 15, 2012 11:31 AM typical college behavior and in comparison to universities of similar size, Boulder has comparable alcohol consumption. I might also add that Boulder's alcohol regulations are more harsh than the comparable towns mentioned above.

746 I live on University Hill and I can tell you that alcohol overconsumption affects my Nov 15, 2012 11:31 AM quality of life EVERY SINGLE DAY AND NIGHT. It is a huge problem that is not being addressed.

747 No and yes. It really comes down to being a college towns. I have lived in three Nov 15, 2012 11:27 AM and they are all the same. If their is a college or major university in town their will be drinking issues. These issues come from private parties as well as bars that are not compliant with the City's liquor code. I feel Boulder is unique in that they have so many restaurants and options for food and bars, it keeps someone of my age interested in the nightlife. I avoid bars that have a huge college population and are known by the students it's a place to go get wasted. I frequent and try many restaurants and bars in the area for the food experience and recreation enjoyment with friends and peers. If there is a alcohol problem it falls on the university, and the policing of regulations on liquor establishments.

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It's not because their are too many licenses. If licensees are compliant then you don't see an alcohol problem. If licensees don't follow the laws and over serve or serve underage that is where the problem lies.

748 I, as well as many of my friends, am able to control my drinking and I enjoy Nov 15, 2012 11:25 AM consuming it at the bars after a long day of work.

749 The number and seriousness of alcohol-related incidents such as fights, noise Nov 15, 2012 11:21 AM disturbances, injuries, littering, vandalism and even deaths.

750 Yes, but only with minors on the Hill and in the dorms and NOT in the bar scene Nov 15, 2012 11:18 AM on the Hill or Pearl.

751 By mere fact that Boulder seems to have so many alcohol related problems, Nov 15, 2012 11:11 AM such as fights, rape, litter, alcohol poisonings, alcohol related accidents and neighborhood vandalism

752 The Health risk associated with it. Nov 15, 2012 11:06 AM

753 Obviously there is going to be drinking near every college campus, that being Nov 15, 2012 11:03 AM said I think Boulder students and inhabitants are safe in consuming alcohol compared to many other universities. There are a few rare exceptions where people have overdosed but that is an instance like many other that we can not blame on society rules.

754 Yes and no. Yes, it is a problem with college kids, however, the culture around Nov 15, 2012 10:57 AM binge drinking needs to be changed.

755 Being a CU grad many years ago and completing graduate study in another Nov 15, 2012 10:52 AM large college area (Berkeley), living in Boston, SF and NY since- consumption of alcohol has the same peaks and valleys all of these places. It is a part of the culture, and is no more problematic in Boulder than anywhere else.

756 Boulder being a college town there is no way around college kids exploring their Nov 15, 2012 10:45 AM boundaries with alcohol. Restaurants and taverns that serve alcohol are responsible BY LAW to ID all patrons and monitor excessive drinking, therefore controlling and greatly eliminationg over consumption in their business. Over consumption of alcohol occurs at private homes/private parties and other such type scenarios.

757 individuals may have problems but i dont think it is a problem for boulder Nov 15, 2012 10:44 AM

758 Drinking is legal for those who are over 21 just because you stop serving liquor Nov 15, 2012 10:41 AM in bars people are going to drink just as much but at house parties which will disturb local residence. If people want to drink to much that is there decision nothing we can do will change that it will just make people angry and drive away business from these restaurants and bars.

759 Problem drinkers as a percentage of the population in Boulder is about the same Nov 15, 2012 10:33 AM as in any other University town in Colorado or other states. Boulder authorities are very adept a dealing with such issues and have been for decades since I was a student at CU.

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760 Its a college town. Also the consumption of any drug is not the business of the Nov 15, 2012 10:20 AM government. No one is questioning if we consume too much caffeine here so why are we worried about booze?

761 Alcohol over consumption is an fact of life anywhere large numbers of college Nov 15, 2012 10:18 AM students congregate. However, I don't think CU Boulder college students consume more alcohol than students from other schools.

762 Binge drinking Nov 15, 2012 10:17 AM

763 Many college towns and big cities have worse drinking problems Nov 15, 2012 10:11 AM

764 Getting drunk does not mean over consumption. Every weekend college Nov 15, 2012 10:10 AM students go out and get drunk and maybe a little rowdy and everyone looks at them like the over consumed. Alcohol gets you drunk thats why people drink it if people weren't drinking alcohol to get drunk then there wouldn't be alcoholic beverages because there would be no point for them. If you're going to drink alcohol just to drink, not to get drunk, that's just pointless, why not just have a water then?

765 Once you limit bars people will go elsewhere to drink. Those places whether it be Nov 15, 2012 10:08 AM a house or the like, will be unregulated and more dangerous than bars are today.

766 I don't see it much so I can't say with a lot of certainty, but to a large degree I Nov 15, 2012 10:07 AM don't think it is a problem

767 It is a college town Nov 15, 2012 10:02 AM

768 No, it is an issue everywhere, but these actions will not effect any of the issues Nov 15, 2012 9:54 AM you are trying to address. How about stepping up the enforcement of public intoxication or overserving?

769 Depends on age, I think that kids under 21 have more of a problem over Nov 15, 2012 9:54 AM consuming.

770 Every person has a right to do as they legally please, this includes the Nov 15, 2012 9:50 AM consumption of alcohol, a legal substance. The city, state, or federal government should not restrict an individuals rights or their freedom of choice.

771 Kids binge--- they just do. This is the problem. They get noisy, do inappropriate Nov 15, 2012 9:50 AM things, and put themselves and others at risk (which is not fair). I've seen girls barely dressed and barely able to communicate. Guys get aggressive. I don't think zoning is the answer. No drinking or restricting the whole community, or business is NOT the answer. It is a student problem primarily (maybe some homeless too). Even at the farmers market early on a Saturday it is upsetting to see a homeless woman (drunk) beating up a homeless guy, starting fights, in front of small children coming out to play. I think we need to get kids out of home, we need to get homeless people out of streets. We need to solve the deeper problem like why are they actually drinking instead of choosing a different activity. We would probably be better off subsidizing a ski bus to take all CU students to the slopes every weekend for fun, and spend less on police.

772 It is the same as anywhere else in the world. Often media and residents Nov 15, 2012 9:46 AM

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exaggerate it's negative impacts.

773 Overconsumption would not be reduced by restrictions on bars and restaraunts. Nov 15, 2012 9:42 AM People will just be forced to drink as they already do, but in an unmonitered situation. This could lead to an increase in the amount unknown cases of alchohol poisening.

774 I think that a lot of college towns have alcohol over consumption problems. Nov 15, 2012 9:41 AM However, I think that responsible adults that are over the age of 21 should be able to drink alcohol on the Hill in Boulder.

775 Such a judgement should not exist in a free society. It's no one's place to make a Nov 15, 2012 9:34 AM generalization that Boulder has a alcohol consumption problem. Who do you think you are to judge that a business 'be compatible with surrounding uses and consistent with the established character of a neighborhood.' This is total and complete BS.

776 Boulder is a college town and they are going to have their fair share of alcohol Nov 15, 2012 9:31 AM consumption. Boulder is no different then Norman Oklahoma or Tuscaloosa Alabama...

777 I do not think that alcohol consumption in Boulder is any more of a problem than Nov 15, 2012 9:23 AM it is in other cities. Sure, you have a lot of college students who like to go out, however, I think it is safer to have them in bars where bar tenders can restrict them from drinking too much.

778 The bar scene in Boulder has never been dangerous. The owners, bouncers, Nov 15, 2012 9:16 AM and others do a very good job in protecting their business and protecting their patrons.

779 Because people drink heavily everywhere. If you close the bars on the hill, more Nov 15, 2012 9:14 AM and more people will go to pearl which is harder to patrol and keep safe because of the lack of streets through the mall.

780 Alcohol Consumption is a personal matter, we do not need government telling us Nov 15, 2012 9:06 AM what we can drink and where.

781 I see a health normal college town. Nov 15, 2012 8:57 AM

782 This is not a "problem" the city council should be concerning themselves with, Nov 15, 2012 8:55 AM waste of time.

783 Of course there are problems that occurr directly from the use/abuse of alcohol. Nov 15, 2012 8:48 AM Having lived in many communities, I don't see it as more significant than in other places. The Boulder "nightlife" I see as an overall positive attribute of our community.

784 We own a home on the Hill and see no evidence of over consumption of alcohol. Nov 15, 2012 8:44 AM Students drinking on the weekend and occasionally getting loud in the street does not rise to the level of "problem".

785 Hard question to answer really. It's undeniable that some people can get out of Nov 15, 2012 8:38 AM control, but I think for the most part people are generally pretty well behaved,

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especially those who are outside their college years. So, although my overall answer is no, I recognize that sometimes things can get out of control. The real question is, how much can you prevent people from doing while also maintaining fairness for those that follow the rules?

786 It's college, you know that alcohol is consumed, it's like this in every college Nov 15, 2012 8:34 AM town.

787 I haven't seen credible evidence that there is over consumption of alcohol in Nov 15, 2012 8:17 AM Boulder of that if there is over consumption of alcohol that it is problem.

788 I have never seen any evidence of problems related to over consuption when in Nov 15, 2012 8:17 AM Boulder, on the hill or otherwise.

789 I think there is relatively the same amount of alcohol consumption in Boulder as Nov 15, 2012 8:03 AM there is in any major city.

790 You say, "in Boulder", no, I don't think over consumption is a problem in general Nov 15, 2012 7:48 AM in Boulder. For the students at CU, quite possibly! That should not be a respectable establishments punishment. It should be the restaurant/taverns discretion to stop serving a patron they feel is out of control with their consumption.

791 Unfortunately, college towns always have incidences involving alcohol. Not up Nov 15, 2012 7:38 AM to us to try to control it.

792 but only to the extent that alcohol over consumption is a national problem. Nov 15, 2012 7:25 AM

793 There will be heavy alcohol use in any college town, CU is no different. I grew Nov 15, 2012 7:19 AM up in Boulder and have been visiting the Hill since I was a kid. Nothing should change.

794 College kids are going to party no matter who tries to enforce rules and where. Nov 15, 2012 7:14 AM Its an overreaction and encroachment on business practices to try to control those who are over 21.

795 This is primarily a problem of student underage drinking which does not occur in Nov 15, 2012 6:40 AM licensed establishments.

796 Boulder has no more or less of an alcohol consumption problem than any other Nov 15, 2012 6:34 AM community. It has a mentality of being a party community. The problem is we have people that do not take responsibility for their behavior. You cannot change behaviors by creating new codes.

797 It's never in the news. Pot is now legal. Nov 15, 2012 6:19 AM

798 Alcohol consumption in Boulder is no more or less than you would expect in a Nov 15, 2012 6:02 AM college town.

799 Use seems appropriate: I don't see evidence of regular overuse aka lots of Nov 15, 2012 5:59 AM drunks around, more car accidents, excessive late night noise, damage/trash, etc

800 I think it's more an undergrad student behavioral problem, not a city-wide issue. Nov 15, 2012 5:05 AM

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I think bar staff and bouncers should do a better job turning away people who've over-consumed. Maybe putting into place harsher punishments through the city AND the University for those found publicly intoxicated/drinking underage? More police on the streets after a certain hour and more cooperation between campus and city police perhaps?

801 Individuals of a legal age to drink have the right toake decisions regarding how Nov 15, 2012 4:49 AM much they drink. Existing laws provide appropriate protections when individuals drink or act inappropriately and it impacts others.

802 No more than anywhere else! Nov 15, 2012 4:23 AM

803 It is foolish to think that businesses on the hill are the driver behind alcohol Nov 15, 2012 1:53 AM abuse. Any student that knows someone over the age of 21 can easily access alcohol. I have never been in a Boulder bar that did not ID me.

804 On the occasion that I have stayed late (11:00-12:00) at the bars on Pearl St. I Nov 15, 2012 1:39 AM have never really seen a problem. I suppose if you are out after 1 or 2 there may be some issues, but If your out at that time you obviously YOU have a problem...... get a job!

805 People can judge for themselves what is and isn't appropriate. If they get in Nov 15, 2012 1:17 AM trouble more often for causing disturbances, they'll modify behavior accordingly. Not the city's business how much they drink.

806 We are college kids, grow up. Nov 15, 2012 12:27 AM

807 I think Boulder is congruent to all other college towns in comparison to alcohol Nov 14, 2012 11:52 PM consumption.

808 There is a normal amount of drinking in Boulder, especially considering that a Nov 14, 2012 11:45 PM major university is located there. Of course, there is a lot of drinking, but you shouldn't be able to put restrictions on recreational use of alcohol in any city. The government should not have that right. The drinking in Boulder will just be moved elsewhere and your businesses will lose money.

809 The Answer is "Yes and No" but I chose No because over consumption is part of Nov 14, 2012 11:02 PM the college experience. Boulder is no worse than other college towns. There are already enough laws in place to regulate. Enforce these rather than add new ones.

810 How can alcohol consumption be a problem in Boulder? The City has nothing Nov 14, 2012 10:55 PM better to do, so they enforce an over-abundance of rules and regulations relating to such issues. Every facet of alcohol is over-regulated in this town, borderline ridiculous!

811 I think all college areas have a alcohol problem. I don't think it is only Boulder, Nov 14, 2012 10:53 PM nor do I think Boulder's drinking is out of control. I feel like places (like the Sink, Half Fast and The Goose) have really cracked down on the ID checks and making sure no minors are able to get in, and that the individuals that are over the age are not getting too drunk or intoxicated. I have seen numerous times where they have cut individuals off, or refuse to serve them alcohol because they felt like it was unsafe. They also now monitor the amount of drinks one may have

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more strictly by several different methods to insure the communities safety.

812 Young students are still learning their limits and it just so happens to be in Nov 14, 2012 10:43 PM college. I think all college towns have an alcohol over consumption problem, but it woudn't be right to limit what is sold in restaurants. The restaurant owners should be the ones to decide who and what is served.

813 I don't see an overall negative impact from the current state of nightlife in Nov 14, 2012 10:41 PM Boulder. If anything, many of the bars downtown are already overcrowded, particularly on holidays. Reducing locations to drink will simply make the nightlife scene in Boulder unenjoyable, forcing more partying to occur in people's homes where the reduced price of liquor actually makes binge drinking more affordable and therefore more likely.

814 Boulder would be implausibly unique if over-consumption was never a problem. Nov 14, 2012 10:34 PM However, I don't think the problems here are atypical of college towns.

815 Of course overconsumption happens sometimes but I think that in general, Nov 14, 2012 10:22 PM businesses do a good job of monitoring it.

816 There's no more alcohol abuse in Boulder than in any other college town Nov 14, 2012 10:17 PM

817 It's mild, especially considering that it is a college town. Nov 14, 2012 10:13 PM

818 People, regardless of where they live, are responsible for the amount of alcohol Nov 14, 2012 10:07 PM they consume. Boulder is a college town, so it is expected that students will have parties where alcohol is present.

819 This is a college town and no matter what regulations you change the kids will Nov 14, 2012 9:47 PM find a way to get alcohol and get drunk. I think lowering the drinking age is what needs to be done. The drinking age was 18 when I was growing up and we didn't have all these problems. Most kids find breaking the law the highlight here. Plus the residents on the hill need to get their heads out of their asses. They moved to a college area and I think it's disgusting that now that thy live there they want the rules changed. Where did they think they were living?

820 i think it is the same atmosphere as any city, town or college town in the country. Nov 14, 2012 9:31 PM people choose to consume, or not, and they will do it in their own homes, if it is not available in bars/restaurants. college students drink...it's a part of life for that age group. it doesn't make sense to destroy business and families livelihoods because college students drink. the students will simply go to other areas of boulder to drink, the problem is not gone.

821 I see over consumption as an issue in Boulder, but not directly associated with Nov 14, 2012 9:20 PM Bars and other alcohol serving establishments. The biggest issues I have seen have arisen from binge drinking at parties where no one is in charge of keeping individuals in check. Bartenders, servers, and bouncers at established bars are able to prevent over consumption more than anyone can at a house party.

822 Boulder is a college town and has a very hopping bar scene. In my opinion, Nov 14, 2012 9:15 PM heavy drinking is pretty centralized around Pearl Street and the Hill, but it's not any more or less rambunctious than any other college town. I also feel further restrictions would be bad for Boulder businesses.

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823 It exists for sure, but it is not a problem. There are plenty of actual issues in this Nov 14, 2012 9:14 PM city/county/state/country. This is a minor nuisance at worst.

824 I think it was in the past, but it is no longer a bigger problem than in other cities. Nov 14, 2012 9:07 PM It is much better than it was 10 + years ago.

825 I moved here from Miami Beach, it is much more of an issu.e there Nov 14, 2012 8:57 PM

826 Boulder is a college town with lots of young people who like to go out and Nov 14, 2012 8:57 PM socialize. Many of Boulder's businesses are based around the college students

827 There is strict regulation in place at venues that serve alcohol. Fraternity parties Nov 14, 2012 8:54 PM are a different story.

828 Mostly, I think the college students have the consistent issues with over- Nov 14, 2012 8:49 PM consumption of alcohol.

829 I think alcohol over consumption is a problem when it comes to unsupervised Nov 14, 2012 8:46 PM drinking such as at house parties. I think the city is making the wrong choice by limiting the number of supervised locations patrons may drink at. Instead of making it harder for a responsible business to provide a safe supervised atmosphere where over consumption may be avoided, we should focus on punishing business who are not responsible in serving their customers.

830 I've not seen any of the data being used by the city to suggest one way or the Nov 14, 2012 8:46 PM other. Assuming there is data and not just opinion. Does the data suggest that Boulder has a higher over consumption rate than other Colorado cities?

831 I have never seen a problem. I have seen Meth addicts on the streets around Nov 14, 2012 8:37 PM the Hill but I have never seen anyone drunk. It's a college town, there will always be drinking among students, but I doubt most of the overdrinking occurs in a restaurant. I remember college and the drinking I saw happened in frat houses.

832 For certain age groups..specifically the college aged kids. Nov 14, 2012 8:36 PM

833 Even though Boulder is considered a "College Town" it is fun for more than just Nov 14, 2012 8:26 PM the kids at the University.

834 I don't see alcohol degrading our community. Nov 14, 2012 8:16 PM

835 There is a lot of alcohol consumed in Boulder, and for some individuals, it is a Nov 14, 2012 8:10 PM problem. For other individuals, it is a part of being in college, or being unemployed, or being unhappy and depressed, or simply being an alcoholic. Whether or not alcohol is available on the Hill, or in certain areas of Boulder, will not affect the amount of alcohol consumed. In fact, I believe there will be a larger increase in more irresponsible drinking, because a bartender won't be present to judge intoxication levels and deem an individual too drunk to serve.

836 Alcohol is part of our culture, yet is taboo before 21. The young are Nov 14, 2012 8:04 PM inexperienced, and therefore become fully immersed rather quickly when entering college. To not drink in college is to not fit in... Frats and sororities make alcohol a primary reason for hanging out!

837 Alcohol consumption is an issue at all college campuses across the United Nov 14, 2012 8:02 PM

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States. CU-Boulder is no different; it just average. Furthermore, the non-college population does not have a problem with alcohol consumption.

838 Boulder is a college town, and like in all college towns, the alcohol consumption Nov 14, 2012 8:01 PM rate will be higher than that of a non-university town. College is a time for kids to learn their limits and that does include over-consuming at times, however it is a part of life and learning.

839 This is a college town and alcohol abuse is a problem the same as it is for Nov 14, 2012 7:54 PM business men and women in Denver or any other surrounding areas. If someone wants to drink, they're going to find a way, no matter any preventions or regulations. Boulder is no more or any less a problem then everywhere else.

840 This is a college town where kids are still learning how to drink. It's part of the Nov 14, 2012 7:46 PM maturing process and happens all over the country.

841 Those of age seem to handle themselves like adults, those underage can be a Nov 14, 2012 7:22 PM different case.

842 Seems consistent with other thriving cities Nov 14, 2012 7:20 PM

843 I think that the alcohol consumption is no different than what you would find at Nov 14, 2012 7:16 PM any other college in the United States. Look at all the SEC schools, the BIG 10 schools, etc...

844 Over consumption occurs in two types: chronic and episodic binge Nov 14, 2012 7:09 PM drinking. In both types Boulder has an average rate of these behaviors relative to the demographics. It is not a problem relative to many others: professional homeless, alienation misbehavior (trash, small scale personal violence) by the large number of people who come in form outside Boulder every day and night.

845 I think Boulder has done a very good job cracking down on the excessive Nov 14, 2012 7:08 PM partying of the early 2000's. The city and the university have effective policies in place, and because of this I believe the problem has been allieviated. It is a college town and there will always be partying and a certain amount of binge drinking. The city must recognize its limits in order to allow businesses to grow, prosper, and not suffer from over-regulation because of a small amount of typical college behavior.

846 over consumption is not the problem, police enforcement is simply not doing a Nov 14, 2012 7:08 PM good enough job of enforcing the laws that are already in place. Just because a few people can't handle their liquor doesn't mean you should go out and start shutting down businesses.

847 The problem is making students travel further and further from campus to Nov 14, 2012 7:06 PM engage is social interaction. This doesn't stop the issue, it just moves it away so a certain demographic can feel more comfortable.

848 No. For a college town, the amount of consumption is normal. By regulating Nov 14, 2012 6:53 PM drinking you are forcing those who want to drink to get creative in their efforts which inevitably become more dangerous.

849 It's a tiny problem. Here's a real danger to all life, that Boulder is helping CAUSE: Nov 14, 2012 6:53 PM

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850 If anything it should be less regulated Nov 14, 2012 6:37 PM

851 Having lived in several different "college towns" during my career, I have come Nov 14, 2012 6:35 PM to the conclusion that the consumption of alcohol in Boulder is not greater than in comparable cities.

852 Underage drinking Nov 14, 2012 6:35 PM

853 Boulder is no different than other college communities and I do not see an Nov 14, 2012 6:31 PM actionable problem here

854 I've lived in many places including other college towns and it doesn't seem to be Nov 14, 2012 6:27 PM as bad here as some other places. That isn't to say that there has never been an overconsumption problem here, but I feel that the existing zoning regulations, police patrols, and Department of Revenue regulation are adequate.

855 Honestly yes and no it is a problem. The majority of people who go out don't Nov 14, 2012 6:25 PM over indulge in drinking but there will always be a population that does. Part of it is a cultural thing where people feel they can't go out and just have a drink with friends to have fun. Instead you have to go out and get absolutely drunk to have fun. There are very limited things to do in town after 11pm other than drink and lets face it many students and young adults are going to be up and about looking for entertainment at this time.

856 There is a lively atmosphere, not an over consumption issue. Nov 14, 2012 6:21 PM

857 I think it is a problem in some areas of town more than others. I think that Nov 14, 2012 6:17 PM drinking and driving is a problem around Pearl (My boyfriend worked for parking services in the garages and he had a lot of drunk people come through), but I think the biggest problem is on the Hill. There aren't a ton of bars, and house parties are prolific on the weekends. Almost every street has several parties on Thursday and Saturday nights. The problem I find there is that underage students will come from the dorms and drink with other students, and there aren't enough police officers to intervene every time a party gets out of control.

858 I don't think it is a bigger problem in Boulder than other college towns. Nov 14, 2012 6:12 PM

859 The rate of the alcohol consuming population has not been significantly changed Nov 14, 2012 6:11 PM for the past 50 years in the US. If it has not been a problem before, why would it be a problem now? Education and Punishment are the keys to solve and reduce the impacts of over consumption. Japan can do it, Singapore can do it, why we can't?

860 It seems to be the same problem experienced by every college town in the U.S. Nov 14, 2012 6:07 PM

861 This is a college town with a wonderful atmosphere and anyone with a Nov 14, 2012 6:07 PM functioning brain realizes that alcohol and the college experience are inseparable. Yes there is drinking, no it's not excessive, and to punish an entire city for the irresponsibility of a select few individuals (students or otherwise) is a gross over step of your authority.

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862 Only a college student problem, not a Boulder problem Nov 14, 2012 6:04 PM

863 Pearl street is flustered with drunken hooligans after 11pm fri-sunday. You also Nov 14, 2012 6:03 PM see this type of behavior on the hill as well.

864 I only think its a problem for unintelligent people who are trying to be "cool" Nov 14, 2012 6:00 PM

865 Alcohol consumption in Boulder follows trends of other college towns across the Nov 14, 2012 5:58 PM country. Over consumption of alcohol seems mostly to be problematic for college aged residents and occurs mostly in private settings. Enforcement of the use of fake IDs is very strict in Boulder and those consuming over the age of 21 have the right to do so. These restrictions would not curb alcohol consumption after hours amongst those whose desire it is to abuse alcohol and would rob many of their livelihoods and social settings.

866 Alcohol over consumption is a problem in every college town. It just comes with Nov 14, 2012 5:55 PM the territory.

867 Are people dieing? I dobt read about it/hear about it Its not a problem Nov 14, 2012 5:53 PM

868 Not in licensed establishments - possibly in private settings - ie house parties Nov 14, 2012 5:53 PM

869 I have lived and worked in the city for years and have never experienced or seen Nov 14, 2012 5:51 PM any issues with over consumption of alcohol

870 Yes, but only in places with a large concentration of IRRESPONSIBLE students. Nov 14, 2012 5:49 PM Most students are responsible in my experience; especially the older ones. Alcohol over-consumption has tragic results for individuals, of course. I think we should only react, though, in cases where over-consumption affects others (like innocent bystanders hit by a drunk driver). QUESTION 6 is missing the primary negative impact in my opinion: injury or death of other people.

871 While I've answered 'yes', the fact that I think over-consumption of alcohol is a Nov 14, 2012 5:47 PM problem is not the same as saying that I think that problem requires stricter rules for businesses selling alcohol. That said, over-consumption is clearly a problem if we have drunken individuals entering residences that aren't their own in the middle of the night, public drunkenness that affects residents on the part of the homeless, and so forth.

872 If excessive drinking is a problem for the community, there should be penalties Nov 14, 2012 5:46 PM for those who can't handle themselves. Oh wait, there are. Public intoxication, anyone? Enforce those laws, but don't take it out on the rest of us. And I really love the hypocrisy of this. Boulder, the most liberal city in the country, says on one hand, "Don't tell me what to do with my body!" when it comes to something like abortion rights, or "Stay out of my bedroom!" when it comes to gay rights, but you want to tell adults whether or not they can get drunk? Ridiculous.

873 It's hard to deny that CU students and other non-student youth drink too much. Nov 14, 2012 5:44 PM However, after living on the Hill for three years and in the dorms for one, I have witnessed most of the heavy/abusive drinking occurring during the 18-20 (freshman-sophomore) year range. Furthermore, most of this drinking has been taking place in the residential area of the Hill rather than the commercial. I could never even begin to imagine this stopping. The only way to stop this happening

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on the Hill would be banning students from living on the Hill which is far to radical of an idea. The Hill is located close to campus so students will live there and, unfortunately, drink heavily there.

874 We live in a college town. Students and young adults have to learn and actively Nov 14, 2012 5:43 PM choose to drink responsibly. With this being said, I have seen many more people severely intoxicated at house parties in Boulder than at any of the bars on the Hill or Pearl St. However, with the residents and students in Boulder I do not believe there is an alcohol over consumption problem.

875 Is alcohol consumption an problem overall? Boulder is not an outlier in alcohol Nov 14, 2012 5:42 PM consumption or activity when it is compared to the rest of the country. It ignorant to shut down restaurants or ban alcohol from the hill simply because others place an untrue mask of mischievous nature upon it

876 I'm relatively social, and have had the luxury to travel to a lot of other cities and Nov 14, 2012 5:35 PM towns around the country. Relative to other active/fun/interesting towns I've been to, alcohol over consumption seems to be less of a problem here than most other places.

877 People rarely die in boulder from over consumption. Nov 14, 2012 5:31 PM

878 Boulder is a college town, so drinking is an unavoidable part of the community. Nov 14, 2012 5:30 PM

879 Yes, and the usage stems from the University more than the businesses that Nov 14, 2012 5:29 PM enable drinking. The institution makes kids "go underground" in the dorms leaving binge drinking as the only option.

880 The right for Americans to consume alcohol comes from the constitution and its Nov 14, 2012 5:26 PM regulation from the state. We already have measures in place to mitigate harm to people as a result of anothers over drinking. Over drinking is not a problem in Boulder but rather a problem for alcoholics across the world and they should seek treatment.

881 Boulder is an extremely respected city, and, compared to other cities, is very Nov 14, 2012 5:24 PM responsible. If anything, de-regulation is in order and the revenue generated by such action would greatly help the city with its mismanagement of the budget

882 Alcohol related deaths are rare to none in the town of Boulder, along with low Nov 14, 2012 5:24 PM rates of alcohol poisoning. So no, I do not see a problem with alcohol in Boulder.

883 I do not think it is any more of a problem than in any town with a college. In fact, Nov 14, 2012 5:21 PM in comparison to other areas I have lived in (Ohio) it is quite tame and well managed. I think there is more of a problem with underage drinking. I was paying a parking ticket the other day and saw 4 different underage consumption tickets being paid in a manner of 20 minutes.

884 It is a college town. Alcohol over consumption is always going to be prevalent Nov 14, 2012 5:19 PM where there is a big university. I don't believe it to be a problem because in the 2 years that I've lived and worked in Boulder, I have seen very few alcohol- related incidents that I would call a "problem".

885 We are college students who are obviously going to drink. people in boulder are Nov 14, 2012 5:18 PM

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aware that they live near a college and should take that into consideration. by placing limits on bars is only going to make students pregame harder which will not eliminate the problem.

886 Yes however I don't think revoking business licenses is the answer to the Nov 14, 2012 5:16 PM problem. It's a cultural issue which is something you can't just legislate and fine away.

887 I think there are some people who drink to extremes, which is a problem, but it's Nov 14, 2012 5:14 PM such a small subset of the population that it shouldn't affect the whole city. (PS. kudos on the spelling error on the VERY FIRST question of the survey...)

888 It is no different from any other sane city in the country or the world. A Nov 14, 2012 5:12 PM consumption issue is always a personal issue and never the results of poor business practices. This would have far-reaching, unintended consequences if the city started cracking down on something like this. Primarily, business revenues and student applications would decrease.

889 Not with bars and other alcohol selling establishments. The real problem Is the Nov 14, 2012 5:12 PM fraternities hosting underage drinking parties where I have witnessed horrible things take place including multiple date rape cases. The bars are fine and controlled. To get into a bar underage in boulder is nearly impossible and bar tenders regularly regulate amounts sold. Shut down the frats and house parties on the hill and drinking related crimes would drastically change.

890 Its a college town. Yes there is drinking, yes some people overdo it. Still, it is Nov 14, 2012 5:09 PM ridiculous that Boulder city consistently try to babysit adults in this town by imposing useless alcohol restrictions on businesses that make their livelihood from alcohol sales.

891 People will always view alcohol over-consumption as a problem in Boulder Nov 14, 2012 5:07 PM regardless of the statistics that should accompany it. Truth is, Boulder is a college town and students and other young people will find ways to drink regardless of zoning. In fact, the better access to nearby bars (and therefore, sometimes some forced responsibility), the less issues with over-consumption and other issues like drinking and driving will occur.

892 I think that over consumption of alcohol can be a problem in the human race, not Nov 14, 2012 5:07 PM Boulder specifically.

893 At times! But it is a college town and people will drink in college no matter what Nov 14, 2012 5:05 PM you do to try and stop them

894 This is a college town. I don't think there is enough of a problem to have to Nov 14, 2012 5:04 PM change legislation.

895 I do not know of many instances in which people get moderately drunk. There Nov 14, 2012 5:02 PM doesn't seem to be a spectrum in Boulder like there is elsewhere. People are either sober or excessively drunk; there does not seem to be a middle ground. I wish people could get moderately drunk and switch to water.

896 Students drink too much and run the risk of injury or harm to their neighbors Nov 14, 2012 5:02 PM

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897 No because over consumption is frankly a personal choice and will happen Nov 14, 2012 5:02 PM whether or not bars/restaurants are regulated.

898 It is a college town. Whether residents like it or not it is. It brings in money and Nov 14, 2012 4:58 PM revenue to all businesses here. If Boulder has a alcohol consumption problem then every college town does.

899 Too many wankers drinking. Cant handle their shit. Nov 14, 2012 4:58 PM

900 Compared to other areas it is incredibly low. Nov 14, 2012 4:57 PM

901 Frat and sororities have no over site for alcohol consumption Nov 14, 2012 4:56 PM

902 I don't believe it is a problem. It does exist and it does occasionally manifest in Nov 14, 2012 4:53 PM destructive behavior but I do not believe that this is the majority case in Boulder.

903 College students will always consume alcohol, whether in Boulder or not. The Nov 14, 2012 4:52 PM average Boulder resident is not a student, and more often than not don't have an alcohol problem.

904 It's a college town. If you restrict it in bars they'll just take it elsewhere, thus Nov 14, 2012 4:46 PM increasing the possibility of underage drinking. It could also increase the likelihood of bigger, more obnoxious house parties. At least in bars in commercial areas, the noise (and mess) stays inside the retail establishment. There is no way that this will reduce the amount of alcohol consumed. I think it would negatively impact residential communities.

905 Alcohol over consumption has no negative impact on me or my family. We live in Nov 14, 2012 4:45 PM the University Hill/ Chautauqua area, and have never had any issues.

906 Boulder is college town but also a family oriented town. The drinking is kept Nov 14, 2012 4:42 PM inside areas specified for it and there is no real problem.

907 it's a college town. it's gonna happen regardless. majority of the problem are Nov 14, 2012 4:42 PM underage drinkers and the excitement of being able to do whatever they want, and they're not the ones in bars.. they're getting alcohol from their friends.

908 I see lots of drunk driving, people swerving and driving really slow in higher Nov 14, 2012 4:40 PM speed areas- especially on weekends- people walking around too drunk to walk, even in the day time.

909 The culture of CU's campus in the past draws certain types of students to the Nov 14, 2012 4:37 PM school that don't know their limits or how to drink safely.

910 IRRESPONSIBLE YOUNGER CONSUMERS Nov 14, 2012 4:33 PM

911 Alcohol consumption is a common occurrence amongst any college town and Nov 14, 2012 4:32 PM city for that matter and where there is consumption, there will always be outlying cases of over consumption. I do not think alcohol over consumption is a problem in Boulder, CO. Consumption amongst the world is just a fact and whether it be alcohol, food, clothing, internet use, etc., where there is consumption, there will be over consumption.

912 it does not make our city worse it is same all over the united states Nov 14, 2012 4:31 PM

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913 It's a "problem" in that it would be marginally good if overconsumption was Nov 14, 2012 4:30 PM reduced. Students binge drink, but there is little that can be done to stop that out of hand. On the other hand, when young people overconsume alcohol in public places, the public can end up bearing the cost. Reducing these costs through policy is a good idea.

914 Possibly a problem with students but it seems all alcohol policy is written only Nov 14, 2012 4:28 PM with students in mind. Most of Boulder is comprised of older, law abiding, citizens that don't need to feel punished and over regulated because of attempts to curb student drinking!

915 I've lived here for 5 years and have lived in other college towns before this and Nov 14, 2012 4:26 PM don't see any more drinking in Boulder than anywhere else I've lived/traveled. It's a great town and I find it ridiculous that the council is trying to hurt business because of this inaccurately perceived problem.

916 it is in isolation from places and activities i'm most interested in. Nov 14, 2012 4:25 PM

917 Alcohol consumption in Boulder is the same as any other popular college town. Nov 14, 2012 4:24 PM

918 Since the drinking age is 21 and there are a lot of college aged students trying to Nov 14, 2012 4:23 PM drink, there is a crazy number of house parties etc. that encourage binge drinking. Bars are a safe and monitored location for adults to drink alcohol, and removing liquor licenses from bars on the Hill will only further encourage binge drinking.

919 I think there are enough regulations already. The amount of MIPs that are given Nov 14, 2012 4:12 PM are usually due to really REALLY stupid situations where most cases involve a student who was just holding a beer and not even that drunk.

920 There are some that drink, and some that don't. Having a social place for Nov 14, 2012 4:10 PM college age students to get together is vital. Drinking is sometimes part of the social atmosphere with college students. However, over consumption is not a problem.

921 alcohol consumption is healthy, a regular part of life Nov 14, 2012 4:09 PM

922 College kids are going to drink. If you do not like being around drunk people then Nov 14, 2012 4:08 PM don't venture into student areas/hangouts after 11pm.

923 It is just like any other college town. Nov 14, 2012 4:08 PM

924 It is a college town and is no different from others. Alcohol is not anymore of an Nov 14, 2012 4:06 PM issue here than anywhere else.

925 It is a college town, and binge drinking is a problem at every college in America. Nov 14, 2012 4:05 PM There is no reason to get rid of places that students and adults love (ex. the Sink's bar) just because a few people have a problem with it

926 It has a college in town, go to other schools across the nation and you will find Nov 14, 2012 4:03 PM the same thing with probably even more heavy drinking.

927 Student drinking will always be prevalent in towns with large universities. While Nov 14, 2012 4:02 PM there is over consumption of alcohol in Boulder, the instances of that affecting

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others are not many.

928 It's a college town. Most college towns have that problem. Nov 14, 2012 3:59 PM

929 For the many homeless in Boulder it may be a problem, but for the average Nov 14, 2012 3:56 PM residents I do not think there is a problem. Most of my friends are responsible drinkers, and most of the bars in Boulder are very strict about cutting people off if they are too drunk.

930 I believe that alcohol consumption is a normal part of a college town. Not OVER Nov 14, 2012 3:56 PM consumption. But drinking in the way of being social and heading out to grab a drink with your friend over dinner or before a football game.

931 Because alcohol over consumption is a problem on lots of college campuses. It's Nov 14, 2012 3:53 PM part of being young and stupid and experimenting.

932 No, I do not think alcohol over consumption is a problem in Boulder for residents Nov 14, 2012 3:52 PM who are of legal age. The issue with over consumption in Boulder stems from underage drinking.

933 I don't think it is any more of a problem than any other big college campus. Nov 14, 2012 3:50 PM

934 No, there are no problems because of drinking as far as college campuses go. Nov 14, 2012 3:49 PM

935 Not really. Kids act like assholes when they over consume but isn't that the Nov 14, 2012 3:45 PM purview of the police force? It should not be up to the city council to hinder the ability of residents to conduct their business.

936 No, I believe this because after living in Denver and other college towns, it Nov 14, 2012 3:45 PM seems boulder consumes the same amounts of alcohol as any other town with a younger demographic.

937 It can be an individual's problem, that doesn't make it the town's. Nov 14, 2012 3:43 PM

938 Everyone drinks in college. Its part of the experience and making the Hill dry Nov 14, 2012 3:42 PM wont change anything about students drinking

939 It's college, every college in the US has a "drinking problem" Nov 14, 2012 3:40 PM

940 In the grand scheme of things, alcohol over consumption is not a problem in Nov 14, 2012 3:40 PM Boulder as this also occurs in every single college town across the country. If Boulder has a problem, then so does the rest of the country. In addition, much of the alcohol over consumption in college towns is by those who are under 21 and drinking in private residences.

941 People drink to have a good time, and occasionally over consumption happens, Nov 14, 2012 3:40 PM but this happens in every town home to a large university.

942 Like most university towns, college students are bound to drink. No matter what Nov 14, 2012 3:40 PM rules and regulations are in place, students will still find a way to excessively drink. Efforts should be focused on aiding them with safe transportation, environments etc.

943 i think this is a college town that is driven by the college dollar. trying to make the Nov 14, 2012 3:39 PM

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hill dry will do nothing but deplete the other businesses that thrive off of the bar crowd on the weekends.

944 People consume alcohol everywhere. Boulder does not have an over Nov 14, 2012 3:38 PM consumption problem.

945 It's a college town, everybody drinks. Having bars open past 11 and near Nov 14, 2012 3:37 PM residences isn't a bad thing when everybody who lives near these bars are college kids who want to go to these places and drink.

946 If it's a problem in Boulder, it's a problem in every town in the world, especially Nov 14, 2012 3:36 PM college towns.

947 I think that there has been a really negative view portrayed on the city, resulting Nov 14, 2012 3:34 PM in very strict and sometimes unreasonable regulations placed on both pearl street and university hill establishments.

948 They're college students in Boulder. It has always been part of the culture and Nov 14, 2012 3:34 PM always will. I feel like your city council is out of touch and needs to think back when you were in college. When I was a college student I would drink more at home rather than at a bar. Limiting alcohol being served would probably increase consumption. Think about it.

949 The college culture is what it is. Nothing will change this fact. Nov 14, 2012 3:33 PM

950 I believe over consumption of alcohol is a problem in college, not in Boulder. All Nov 14, 2012 3:30 PM other college towns experience the exact same impacts of alcohol consumption, why should Boulder impose unfair and overzealous regulations on the establishments that have long supported the City of Boulder, its residents, and its environment?

951 It's a typical college town, with typical college drinking habits. Nov 14, 2012 3:29 PM

952 I do believe that alcohol over consumption is at an all time high in Boulder. Nov 14, 2012 3:27 PM However, I do not agree with bars being limited and or restricted by the state police. This is not mandated under any laws and certainly will not alleviate the problem. The problem lies within the hill and UNDERAGE drinking. Those that are of legal age should be allowed to consume alcohol, responsibly.

953 Stupid drunk people on the Hill, and the increase in cigarette smoking that Nov 14, 2012 3:25 PM results.

954 I think that for the most part the alcohol consumption is on par with most major Nov 14, 2012 3:22 PM campuses. Not a real problem, but something that gives the town character and makes it feel like a vibrant college community.

955 As it is on any college campus, people drink. Curbing the Hill bars is just going to Nov 14, 2012 3:21 PM make house parties get more out of control. If people are in bars, they can be monitored and cut off. Consumption in a residence is much more dangerous.

956 Too many out of control people, harassments, assaults. I feel more in danger in Nov 14, 2012 2:57 PM boulder on a weekend night than I do in any other place.

957 College students can be stupid with alcohol, but so can regular adults. Nov 14, 2012 2:49 PM

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Nonetheless, most are relatively responsible drinkers, who will indulge occasionally, but aren't getting in trouble.

958 I believe Boulder is a typical college town, with a surplus of students. These Nov 14, 2012 2:44 PM students are going to drink but I do not believe it happens here more than anywhere else. If anything Boulder has a strong grip on the students drinking here and it is managed here more than other college areas.

959 Our whole country has a problem with not using alcohol responsibily, no moreso Nov 14, 2012 2:40 PM in Boulder than in every college town.

960 I think some people do it but it is not a problem Nov 14, 2012 2:39 PM

961 Consumption isn't the real issue- Property damage and DUI are far more Nov 14, 2012 2:37 PM important to watch out for. Although both are related drinking, we should be more harshly penalizing the people who perpetrate actual crimes than those who drink

962 Like any other college town, alcohol is consumed. Sometimes it's consumed to Nov 14, 2012 2:35 PM excess, and those isolated incidents should be dealt with on a case-by-case basis.

963 Based on the high number of liquor stores and bars in this city compared to the Nov 14, 2012 2:32 PM population.

964 There are obviously some issues that result from simply being a "college town" Nov 14, 2012 2:23 PM but in general I don't feel as if this issue creates problems for the city as whole. I do, however, seeing this as a more pressing issue for the University Hill neighborhood, given the proximity to CU's campus.

965 It is a college town, and there will be drinking. I do not feel Boulder consumes Nov 14, 2012 2:16 PM more alcohol than any other college town.

966 Overconsumption is a potential issue anytime alcohol is consumed. Due to the Nov 14, 2012 2:16 PM large proportion of college-age residents, Boulder has more alcohol consumption, and thus more issues with overconsumption.

967 College students drinking is inevitable. It makes more sense for Boulder police to Nov 14, 2012 2:15 PM accomodate students in terms of ensuring personal safety than it does to label alcohol overconsumption as a pervasive problem that needs stricter regulation. Drugs are a much more prevalent problem in Boulder. A direct result of rampant hard drug use in Boulder is crime and an unsafe hill; assaults, burglaries, etc. Although overconsumption of alcohol polarizes some problems, there are much worse problems that exist in Boulder that should be focused on by city resources.

968 Have not heard of any alcohol related deaths in Boulder since I've lived here. I Nov 14, 2012 2:12 PM don't believe that limiting places to drink safely and legally will curb alcohol consumption in a college town.

969 I believe that this is simply too generalized a statement to be true. Some Nov 14, 2012 2:06 PM students and some people on Pearl St. Mall tend to over consume and create problems. I believe, however, that the number of people doing this is very small

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in contrast to citizens who are responsible adults. To be fair, I believe that any area with the tourism and academic atmosphere that Boulder harbors has similar challenges.

970 I don't know if over consumption is a problem; nothing in this survey, the City of Nov 14, 2012 2:06 PM Boulder website, or Daily Camera article gives any statistics on alcohol use or overuse in Boulder County. How does CU drinking compare to other college towns? Are there more cases of alcohol poisoning? My experience at CU was that most people drank socially on the weekends, but not more than friends I had at other colleges and universities. And, how does non-CU drinking factor into this?

971 As a University Hill resident, I think that "House Parties" are the main problem Nov 14, 2012 2:04 PM today. Every fall and spring, under age students wander through the Hill reaking havok. We need enforcement of the existing laws. More police on the hill that enforce the noise and drinking laws.

972 It is typical of a college town. Boulder alcohol consumption has not negatively Nov 14, 2012 2:04 PM impacted the community.

973 I observe high risk behavior on the Hill and on Pearl Street, read articles about Nov 14, 2012 2:03 PM college-aged students getting into trouble when intoxicated.

974 I see students getting excessively drunk and putting themselves and others in Nov 14, 2012 1:46 PM dangerous situations much too often. The Hill seems to have become worse then ever and something needs to be done about it.

975 No more so than any other town. Alcohol over consumption is just an excuse to Nov 14, 2012 1:40 PM control the population.

976 CU is a party school and the downtown area is all college bars. Nov 14, 2012 1:36 PM

977 Boulder is like any metroploitan city where all age groups enjoy a social night Nov 14, 2012 1:32 PM life.

978 I have lived in Boulder for 5 years and I have seen very few incidents of alcohol Nov 14, 2012 1:31 PM abuse. I think the bars in Boulder are strict on underage drinking and will deny entrance to people that have drank too much.

979 Boulder is a big city, but its also a college town. Drinking is going to happen and Nov 14, 2012 1:28 PM you cant avoid it, making the hill an area without "high intensity" businesses would lead students to pre game more before their longer walk to the bars. This idea to me is not smart at all and is over regulating a system that already has too much regulation.

980 While some may say that Boulder has an over consumption problem, they forget Nov 14, 2012 1:26 PM that it is a college town and as such hosts a younger demographic. Any town that has a large population of younger citizens tends to be stereotyped as a having a problem with alcohol consumption.

981 It's a problem in Boulder in as much as it's a problem nationwide. Our culture is Nov 14, 2012 1:25 PM celebrating drinking in excess while decrying it out the other side of our mouths. Students are a problem, but so are over-eager alumni, professionals who take

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nights out too far, and many other segments of the population.

982 No, the sale of alcohol is a big money maker for local businesses. Nov 14, 2012 1:18 PM

983 It may be a problem on a personal basis, but in general less so. Nov 14, 2012 1:18 PM

984 I think that Nov 14, 2012 1:17 PM

985 I went to school in Denver but would party in Boulder with friends because of the Nov 14, 2012 1:16 PM lax view on alcohol consumption in the town. I don't think that limiting licenses on the Hill will make a difference, what should be watched more carefully is overserving. There are numerous times that I can (mildly) recall where I was well past the legal limit and still easily ordering drinks. Personal responsibility as a newly legal person in a town heavily associated with drinking was nonexistent.

986 I stay away from college spots and keep to my own business. Nov 14, 2012 1:13 PM

987 Drinking is a part the collage lifestyle. Over compensation is a problem in the Nov 14, 2012 1:10 PM private housholds, frat houses and serority houses. Not in the bars or restaraunts.

988 I have never considered alcohol consumption to be a problem. It seems that it is Nov 14, 2012 1:10 PM the same as any other college towns.

989 I've been to college towns with a far bigger problem Nov 14, 2012 1:05 PM

990 I have reviewed statistics and work closely with people at the Addiction Recovery Nov 14, 2012 1:02 PM Center.

991 It is a college town. I see no problems with Boulder compared with any other Nov 14, 2012 1:02 PM college town that I have visited or lived in.

992 It's a college town with an active night life. The students can be a little loud and a Nov 14, 2012 1:01 PM few make it seem worse than it is. The hill might be a little worse off due to house parties, but that's a problem with underage drinking, not the bars and law enforcement that is already there.

993 I lived on the hill for all 3 years I wasn't in the dorms at CU. All 3 years I was Nov 14, 2012 12:50 PM within a 2 minute walk of The Sink and "The Hill". Any perceived drinking problem on the hill was a result of Greek parties or house parties. The people out of control on the streets were typically there after a house party. In my experience, the businesses do a reasonable job of controlling over consumption. It's already hard enough for business to make it on the hill, as is obvious by the consistent turnover in business for decades.

994 After working on the hill for 4 plus years I believe most people can handle their Nov 14, 2012 12:49 PM alcohol consumption. There will be certain people who cannot and the police should deal with them. But most people it is not a problem.

995 The Hill is no different then Pearl St. To drive business down on the Hill would Nov 14, 2012 12:48 PM be a step in the wrong direction for the community. Hard alcohol being sold on the Hill is not a direct cause to crimes. If someone wants to drink, they are going to do it, whether that is at a local residential home on the Hill or a few blocks away on Pearl St. Don't hurt the local businesses on the Hill that have been

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around for years.

996 When I went to CU in the dark ages...there was just beer and wine on the hill. I Nov 14, 2012 12:44 PM think that because it's so close to the University that adding any kind of encouragement for students to drink even more is insane, so I support these restrictions and think it will curtail many, many problems. Having bars that serve hard alcohol to teens and very young people is like passing out matches to arsons. Bad idea.

997 In many ways, millennials are more responsible drinkers than those of us who Nov 14, 2012 12:41 PM "learned" to drink in college 25-30 years ago. The answer is more education, not more regulation, calling on young people to stay in touch with their better natures, even (or particularly) when drinking. We don't need or want to drive college drinking underground.

998 I think drinking is found in every college town and college kids use drinking as a Nov 14, 2012 12:40 PM mode of relaxation and socializing.

999 I haven't seen it cause a threat to anyone Nov 14, 2012 12:38 PM

1000 It's a college town... Nov 14, 2012 12:38 PM

1001 Alcohol consumption, and even over consumption, is prevalent in every city and Nov 14, 2012 12:36 PM college town.

1002 Consumption of alcohol (or overconsumption) should not be a public issue. I see Nov 14, 2012 12:34 PM no reason to interfere with the local economy and livelihoods of many Boulder residents to try to affect peoples' right to choose what they put in their bodies. Boulder is a college town. College students like to drink a lot. No rezoning, costing local businesses lots of money in a down economy, will change that.

1003 CU has a part school reputation for a reason. Nov 14, 2012 12:28 PM

1004 While I understand why it was a big deal six years ago, it is not now. Especially Nov 14, 2012 12:22 PM not to the point of government intervention to prevent companies from selling what they have for decades and depriving citizens of a legal good which they enjoy. I lived on the Hill for 2 years (at 13th and Euclid) and was never negatively impacted because of the selling of spirits. In regards to the next questions: Boulder is one of the healthiest, safest, cleanest, and orderly cities in the world. There is no problem.

1005 The next questions needs a personal safety option. That is always the problem Nov 14, 2012 12:16 PM with over consumption of alcohol.

1006 Like any college town, you have young adults who are now experiencing a sense Nov 14, 2012 12:14 PM of freedom. The amount of the population that has drinking issues is much smaller then those that do it responsibly. You need to stop trying to be the "Big Brother" and let adults make choices on there own. The solution to this problem is not government intervention. Look at any other college town and you will see that college students will get drunk, it it just a fact of being a college town. If you put restrictions on it your not going to change the amount of drunk people in boulder or the problems.

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1007 Boulder alcohol consumption is no different than any place I've lived. Nov 14, 2012 12:12 PM

1008 Only because college students tend to binge, but that can be seen at almost all Nov 14, 2012 12:11 PM campuses across the country.

1009 In the seven years that I have lived/visited Boulder, I have not witnessed Nov 14, 2012 12:07 PM anything that I would consider 'out of hand' regarding alcohol consumption on The Hill.

1010 This is a college town it is to be expected and part of the environment and Nov 14, 2012 12:07 PM culture.

1011 To the extent that college kids binge drink, yes, there is over consumption in Nov 14, 2012 12:07 PM Boulder. I did as in college, so I speak from experience, including visits to Boulder.

1012 Its a college town, alcohol will always play a role in Boulder especially on the hill. Nov 14, 2012 12:02 PM But restricting sales of alcohol isnt going to solve the problem. Students and other young adults will drink no matter what regardless of age, if you restrict sales you will only be hurting those businesses on the hill and those future businesses that are important to the economy of Boulder.

1013 While it does transpire, it is sufficiently 'cordoned off' to the hill and 29th street. Nov 14, 2012 12:02 PM During the day these areas are perfectly nice and enjoyable, and at night they honestly are no worse than 16th street mall in Denver. And 29th street mall is always an option for a quieter weekend evening.

1014 Boulder is a college town and always will be. The overcomsumption that does Nov 14, 2012 11:59 AM occur typically happens at an unregulated house party. Not the restaurants on and around the Hill. The establishments are monitored and held responsible if they are reckless in serving minors or overserving anyone.

1015 Not more than any other city Nov 14, 2012 11:58 AM

1016 For some people yes, people that do not know how to control them selves. Nov 14, 2012 11:58 AM

1017 I don't think it is a problem to Boulder as a city, but specifically a problem to CU- Nov 14, 2012 11:55 AM a problem with no real answer. Disallowing the sale of hard liquor on the Hill is not going to fix any problems. Students are going to walk a block away, where they live, to drink hard liquor, and walk right back to those businesses. You still have hard liquor consumption, the only difference is you cut revenue to local business.

1018 Boulder has over-consumption issues, but all places that serve alcohol (including Nov 14, 2012 11:55 AM just wine and beer) have over-consumption issues. I would not consider Boulder's issues to be unique or excessive

1019 I think at times that the alcohol consumption for students of the University of Nov 14, 2012 11:54 AM Colorado is an issue, and has certainly had some negative consequences in the past, but I don't believe that alcohol consumption in Boulder is any worse than many college-based towns, and even then, the problem isn't the bars selling alcohol, it's the students overusing it.

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1020 Because having alcohol available in bars will help keep people from supplying Nov 14, 2012 11:52 AM and drinking with minors. As well as maintain a thriving restaurant industry.

1021 It's fine as is. Raccoons and skunks are more of a problem than drunk people. Nov 14, 2012 11:48 AM Stop chastising the college community that you welcome.

1022 I don't think there is over consumption in Boulder, I just think the drinking that is Nov 14, 2012 11:47 AM done is over exaggerated because it is a college town.

1023 I believe that students will drink whether they are at the bars on the Hill, Pearl Nov 14, 2012 11:44 AM Street, 29th Street, or in their own homes. You have to be 21 to go into any of the affected establishments. Changing the zoning on the Hill will not do anything other than affecting the bars/restaurants negatively.

1024 No. As citizens of the United States we are guaranteed certain freedoms, yet the Nov 14, 2012 11:43 AM government, at all levels, wishes to take this away from us. Boulder's city government is just as guilty. Boulder is overreacting to a non-issue. Boulder is out of touch with it's citizens. Instead of creating an atmosphere and society of cooperation, Boulder wishes to take away different items from its major population (Students) and give it to a smaller population (Permanent Residents). Rather than taking away liquor on the Hill, why not invest in stricter security? It is obvious that Boulder wishes to take away the sovereignty over its citizens bodies.

1025 It can be but it is also a problem at a lot of other college towns. Nov 14, 2012 11:43 AM

1026 Where I live I don't notice any problems. We live in a college town, any college Nov 14, 2012 11:41 AM town is going to be like this.

1027 We live in a college town, obviously over consumption is going to be an issue. Nov 14, 2012 11:40 AM

1028 It will occur anywhere regardless of regulations and precautions taken. Provide Nov 14, 2012 11:38 AM as safe an environment for it to occur rather than push it further away. A bar is more likely to cut someone off than a private party that has no one monitoring or even relatively sober.

1029 Incidents associated with alcohol seem to be rising, or perhaps are just reported Nov 14, 2012 11:38 AM more frequently. Things like domestic abuse, attempted homicide, assaults, DUI, vehicular assault and such.

1030 I have not experience any problems with alcohol over consumption Nov 14, 2012 11:38 AM

1031 It's a college town, consumption is normal to what any other area has, just Nov 14, 2012 11:37 AM seems worse because Boulder is so small.

1032 During my studies at the University of Colorado, the thought of Boulder having a Nov 14, 2012 11:36 AM problem with alcohol consumption has never crossed my mind albeit the rather liberal laws. Yes, college students drink too much, but the downsides and dangers of alcohol abuse lurk elsewhere - perhaps in the dorms, but not on The Hill, which is just a regular place with a few bars.

1033 I think that the people who drink the most are students, but that we are generally Nov 14, 2012 11:36 AM responsible enough to know our limits, and I've never personally experienced

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any adverse effects of alcohol in the community

1034 It is a college town. Nov 14, 2012 11:36 AM

1035 Many of the problems that are cited as results of alcohol over-consumption, such Nov 14, 2012 11:36 AM as vandalism, would be present regardless of the level of alcohol consumption.

1036 Boulder is a college town and just like any college town there are a lot of young Nov 14, 2012 11:34 AM adults (legal) who want to go out and party or have a drink to relax when they have free time from school or work.

1037 Alcohol has not created any significant problems in Boulder aside from special Nov 14, 2012 11:34 AM days (like Halloween)

1038 It is an issue dealt with in every college town... These kids are young and having Nov 14, 2012 11:34 AM fun. Over consumption becomes a problem when law enforcement starts cracking down. The whole idea of cracking down pushes the youth to act more extreme. Criminalization becomes way higher and every young person becomes a target. We can pretend thats not the case and turn our shoulder or we can face reality. The people making these decisions about the people and well being of the general community are not the same age as their target. If we are open about alcohol and don't preach prohibition we can all take charge for our own lives and well being. There is no difference between an 18 to 21 year at this point... doctors prescribe medicine that alters and damages a growing brain. Everything harms you. If we drink in moderation and are taught that alcohol is a part of life we should be able to make the decisions for ourselves. In my mind its pretty crazy that people who grew up with an 18 year old drinking age and in the hippy era are the ones to "crackdown" instead of facing a truthful solution. We are regressing.... Thank you for caring for the health and safety of the community.. but please try to look back to your glory days and ask yourself why exactly you know feel the way that you do

1039 Public drunkenness is to a point where I avoid Pearl and the hill completely at Nov 14, 2012 11:33 AM night. I don't feel safe, people are too drunk, trash is everywhere, and people are yelling constantly.

1040 You are sadly mistaken if you think banning hard alcohol on the hill will make a Nov 14, 2012 11:33 AM difference. There are 5 liquor stores within 5 miles of me. Don't think I won't be carrying around a flask of whiskey Friday nights if you pass this law. BOOM.

1041 It seems to be just like any other city with a youthful vibe and a densely packed Nov 14, 2012 11:31 AM populate. Pearl is the issue if you ask me...

1042 I don't think it is a problem for people that are of age to drink. I think it is a Nov 14, 2012 11:31 AM problem for the kids doing it illegally and binging because they cant get served anywhere legally.

1043 I think that the bars in Boulder over-serve alcohol to individuals who are already Nov 14, 2012 11:29 AM heavily intoxicated, and that over consumption would be less of a problem is bars were held more accountable for not allowing patrons to drink past their limits.

1044 I think that living in a college town always brings more drinking into a community. Nov 14, 2012 11:28 AM

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I do not think it is excessive.

1045 No, it is a normal college town. Nov 14, 2012 11:27 AM

1046 It's rare that I hear complaints or encounter any problems related to this issue. Nov 14, 2012 11:24 AM The exception being when there are football games at CU. In particular, I believe that habitual overconsumption likely occurs in private residences rather than in any establishments based on my experiences with the local establishments, which includes time as a student at CU.

1047 it's a large University town it is inevitable that students are going to be Nov 14, 2012 11:24 AM consuming large quantities of alcohol

1048 Because there is a sub culture within the student body where it's cool to get very Nov 14, 2012 11:22 AM drunk and do stupid things. I see more of it with the students involved in the Greek life scene, however it's not limited to just that. You can also tell between the students that come to boulder having experienced more with alcohol than the ones that are out from under their parents eyes. Alcohol education should be a bigger and more effective focus for incoming students

1049 I think there is a lot of alcohol consumption but it is a college town and is much Nov 14, 2012 11:22 AM more mild than other college towns. I wouldn't consider it a problem as I don't think it is a disturbance.

1050 This is a college town, and outside of the underaged-drinkers from house Nov 14, 2012 11:22 AM parties, the businesses of the Hill and other areas of Boulder are very vigilant about preventing underage drinking.

1051 I don't believe that alcohol consumption is a problem in Boulder, it is a college Nov 14, 2012 11:21 AM town and no matter what people are going to continue to drink. It makes sense for restaurants and bars to continue to sell alcohol because they have more control over who is drinking and who is drinking too much

1052 Many house parties that get out of hand from alcohol consumption. Nov 14, 2012 11:20 AM

1053 I think over consumption can be a problem in Boulder. There are some students Nov 14, 2012 11:20 AM or people in general that take things to far and not all the time.

1054 It's a reality of any college town, not a problem. Nov 14, 2012 11:20 AM

1055 While it is a college town, it is a great source of revenue for restaurants. Nov 14, 2012 11:19 AM

1056 its a college town... Nov 14, 2012 11:19 AM

1057 It is more specific to the school and its students. Nov 14, 2012 11:19 AM

1058 its a college town. un-bunch your panties. When you were our age, you were Nov 14, 2012 11:18 AM allowed to go to local bars and drink with your friends. Why cant we???

1059 I think over consumption is a problem in Boulder but mostly at house parties with Nov 14, 2012 11:18 AM those underage.

1060 Broad generalizations like this really discourage thoughtful improvements. Nov 14, 2012 11:17 AM Overall, we work hard and sometimes we do play hard. We don't need the city

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making decisions on how we spend our Friday night for us.

1061 People don't know their own limits. But that is no one's fault but their own. Nov 14, 2012 11:16 AM

1062 Most individuals drink responsibility. Nov 14, 2012 11:16 AM

1063 Alcohol is no more a problem in Boulder than in any town in the United States. Nov 14, 2012 11:16 AM Individuals are responsible for their alcohol accessibility and consumption, not the town or state.

1064 No, it is part of being a college town and a large percentage of the students in Nov 14, 2012 11:16 AM the area are not participating in this overconsumption.

1065 It's a college town Nov 14, 2012 11:14 AM

1066 I believe it is standard, especially since there is a university here. Nov 14, 2012 11:13 AM

1067 PEOPLE (who over consume) are the problem, not the "Use Code". If a facility Nov 14, 2012 11:12 AM is over serving, I beleive there are already provisions for penalties to be assessed to the business or individual. Enforce the existing laws, don't pile on more. If you start enforcing the existing laws, and that doesn't solve the problem, then review the code.

1068 It is no more a problem in Boulder than anywhere else Nov 14, 2012 10:52 AM

1069 With CU, as with any university, there are many alcohol concerns due to the Nov 14, 2012 10:12 AM student population. We also have a large transient population here in Boulder which has caused several alcohol issues as well.

1070 I don't see an excess of drinking in Boulder compared to any other city in the US. Nov 14, 2012 10:05 AM

1071 In comparison to other "college towns", there is less of an emphasis on drinking Nov 14, 2012 9:55 AM because of the variety of other activities to do on the weekends. Also, Boulder is much more strict on fake IDs and underage admission to bars, creating less opportunity for inexperience drinkers to obtain large amounts of alcohol.

1072 Bars and restaurants are doing a perfectly fine job regulating consumption on Nov 14, 2012 9:42 AM their own. In this case, correlation is not causation.

1073 Doesn't seem a problem moreso than in comparable size university Nov 14, 2012 9:22 AM communities.

1074 I think the city needs to present statistics showing that alcohol is a problem in Nov 14, 2012 9:17 AM Boulder. I don't believe noise near some establishments or one or two sob stories will cut it.

1075 No, because it is not. What else can I say? Nov 14, 2012 9:09 AM

1076 Just read the Daily Camera headlines... Nov 14, 2012 9:08 AM

1077 The only times I see perhaps excessive alcohol consumption is very late at night Nov 14, 2012 9:07 AM when many don't seem to be impeding on anyone else's experiences near alcohol serving establishments. Having worked a job that has had me working from very early in the morning over the last couple of years, it doesn't seem that

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the potentially excessive consumption of alcohol is affecting the lives of any of those who are out during the daylight hours.

1078 We have created a culture of binge drinking. Nov 14, 2012 8:41 AM

1079 Binge drinking rates are high, young people are injured and put themselves in Nov 14, 2012 8:32 AM danger, and it is very disruptive to neighbors living on or near the Hill.

1080 Only amongst certain demographics (some students, some homeless) as a rule. Nov 14, 2012 8:13 AM There is binge drinking and alcoholism evident in the city but, in my experience, it isn't a problem on the magnitude that some other cities experience (i.e., we're not a "Spring Break" type destination). The City should look at promoting more mixed-types of liquor licenses i.e., restaurants and try to focus enforcement on the bars that simply cater to binge drinking.

1081 Over consumption is a problem with a percentage of college students, and a Nov 14, 2012 8:06 AM smaller percentage of the general population. However, these people will always find ways to binge-drink regardless of legislation.

1082 Because the 18-21 year olds have no legal way to go to a bar and party in a Nov 14, 2012 7:47 AM controlled environment, they have parties on the hill with hard liquor in uncontrolled environments. restaurants and bars are not the problem. The lack of 3.2 beer being available in clubs for 18-21 year olds is a much bigger cause of over drinking...

1083 No different than the rest of the country. In my opinion eliminating the bars on Nov 14, 2012 7:27 AM the U Hill will devastate the area (already in progress) and not stop the kids from drinking. The bar owners have rules and regulations to follow in order to keep out of trouble with the liquor board. The 21 year old who throws a part does not. Driving the drinking undeground is not the answer.

1084 Alcohol consumption is a natural effect of having so many young people here Nov 14, 2012 7:06 AM due to the university.

1085 I am Boulder native and there has always been drinking/partying in Boulder. If Nov 14, 2012 7:06 AM you limit drinking at restaurants/bars the people will just go to private homes and drink. You will essentially just move the party to the residential neighborhoods. Please do not think that you have the power to curb drinking. You do not. People will drink no matter where they are. Don't force them into neighborhoods.

1086 No because it only occurrs in an isolated section of town. It is not actualy a Nov 14, 2012 7:04 AM widespeard problem. The CU student population is the main driver of over consumption not the regular residents. Get rid of CU and you solve the biggest problem. But since that is not going to happen just educate the population that lives around CU about what to do when they encounter someone who has drank too much.

1087 I don't see I as a widespread issue. Nov 14, 2012 7:00 AM

1088 If you consider the number of excessive alcohol related incidents (I am not Nov 14, 2012 5:15 AM talking the 20th something letting off a little steam) compared with the number of residents you will find that serious alcohol issues are minimal in Boulder.

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1089 College Students Are Continuously publicly intoxicated at night and when the Nov 14, 2012 1:23 AM bars let out

1090 Most people are well behaved. Nov 14, 2012 12:05 AM

1091 Drinking is a part of CU's culture. Nov 13, 2012 11:46 PM

1092 Most people in boulder do not over consume and the few that do so only do so Nov 13, 2012 10:46 PM on the hill and pearl street, both of which are night life areas.

1093 It's a college town. College students drink, sometimes too much. Then they act Nov 13, 2012 10:45 PM stupid. They rarely cause any real harm.

1094 Many incidents involving underage drinking. Lots of happy hours. Liquor stores Nov 13, 2012 10:31 PM that have popped up everywhere. It's clear that alcohol consumption is a very big part of Boulder life. Unfortunately, young people, especially high school and college students, are getting pulled into the fray. The same is true for marijuana.

1095 i live downtown. a fair amount of trash, broken bottles, and noise late at night Nov 13, 2012 10:01 PM seem to result from excessive drinking. it's not clear how much of this is a product of bars/restaurants - most younger drinkers seem to have hit their stride by the time they're headed downtown.

1096 It's a college town, the more 'ordinances' the city imposes the more it pushes Nov 13, 2012 9:42 PM students into house parties

1097 I've seen alcohol over-consumption (whatever one may subjectively deem as Nov 13, 2012 8:55 PM such, that is). I've seen it in Boulder, sure. But it's certainly not rife. In fact, I'd even say that Boulderites, and Coloradans in general, have a more mature outlook when it comes to alcohol than other places I have been/lived.

1098 I don't believe businesses are the main cause for public drunkenness. People at Nov 13, 2012 8:31 PM a bar are regulated by employees that watch over and make sure they don't become too inebriated. On the other hand, house and fraternity parties have little to no supervision with some consumers that aren't of legal drinking age. Changing current regulations to be more strict on businesses isn't going to have much of an effect on the community.

1099 I live in an area off campus where students live. I have had someone push a Nov 13, 2012 8:25 PM motorcycle over into the side of my car. My guess is that whoever did it would not have done it except for alcohol. I also have read in the Camera about students dying from excessive drinking of alcohol. But it is not only students. Many people in Boulder and people who come to Boulder drink to excess.

1100 It is a problem mostly because the drinking age is too high, and the kids that are Nov 13, 2012 8:17 PM under 21 years old drink at home, or at a friend's house on the Hill, and then walk around the Uni Hill neighborhood making noise or worse.

1101 I grew up in another university town, the level of drinking in Boulder is actually be Nov 13, 2012 8:07 PM less per capita.

1102 Part of what I love about Boulder is the nightlife downtown on any night of the Nov 13, 2012 7:48 PM week. The drinkers will always drink. And in my case I like the people, the

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crowds and the draw for bands and other entertainment. I'm not bothered by or notice over-consumption. I lived downtown for 5 years and loved every second of it. Never bothered by noise or anything.

1103 Because of the people who walk by my hours at 2:00AM Sunday morning and Nov 13, 2012 7:42 PM sometimes try to come into it because they are confused.

1104 I think the biggest issue is CU students drinking to much. I was working at CU Nov 13, 2012 7:42 PM during the Thursday night football game and the students were having something called "Blackout Thursday". Dozens were removed from the game and either ejected, sent to the ARC, or went to jail.

1105 Yes, but no more than any university based community. Nov 13, 2012 7:29 PM

1106 From my 6 years in Boulder alcohol consumption is no different than any other Nov 13, 2012 7:28 PM city I've lived in.

1107 It's a college town, and nothing is worse than I've seen elsewhere. Nov 13, 2012 7:27 PM

1108 Too easy access for adolescents and young college students. There is a lot of Nov 13, 2012 7:26 PM damage done by students who consume too much, to property and to themselves.

1109 I do not think alcohol consumption is a problem among the general population. Nov 13, 2012 7:24 PM Alcohol overconsumption is present within the student population, but I don't think students at Boulder drink more than college students nationwide. I know from visiting friends at schools such as the University of Indiana or Ohio State University that drinking is even more of a "problem" there. A very small portion of the student population causes the vast majority of complaints, and I think there is very little that land-use regulations can do to change their drinking habits. They are going to drink no matter what. The only thing you could do to stop complaints or incidents is close every liquor store in town.

1110 Dangerous (to themselves and others) drinking, mostly by college students. Nov 13, 2012 7:17 PM

1111 primarily at homes/house parties Nov 13, 2012 7:00 PM

1112 It's the same as any other town and isn't affecting serious crime stats. Nov 13, 2012 6:49 PM

1113 I hear stories... Nov 13, 2012 6:28 PM

1114 I am a graduate student (I take classes and teach) and it's obvious to me from Nov 13, 2012 6:26 PM the Daily Camera and daily interactions with my students that binge drinking is causing problems to individual students and to the greater community.

1115 for a town centered around a university, Boulder is very tame. compare it to Nov 13, 2012 6:23 PM tuscon ariz, tallahassee, fla. or State College, PA and one will see that the bar patrons n Boulder are relatively well behaved

1116 It is a college based town with a lot of young residents. Alcohol is a large Nov 13, 2012 6:22 PM industry within boulder bu.t .i f.eel as if it is well monitored by the local establishments

1117 Never had issues with it. Nov 13, 2012 6:20 PM

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1118 College kids will be college kids, they dont tend to bother people. The problem Nov 13, 2012 6:14 PM lies with the non-enforcement of the drunk homeless people on the Mall. My friends and I have been harassed several times.

1119 The problem applied more to individuals binge drinking than groups of people Nov 13, 2012 6:14 PM having fun.

1120 The binge drinking culture that exists needs to be addressed culturally. The 21 Nov 13, 2012 6:09 PM year age limit on purchases and prohibitionist approaches exacerbates the problem. Stop the nannying and enforce existing rules that address the bad conduct of those who drink to excess and endanger others.

1121 I live downtown (highest concentration of bars in town) and I've never had, seen, Nov 13, 2012 6:09 PM or heard of a problem related to excessive drinking.

1122 It could be construed as a problem in our country but it is certainly not a Nov 13, 2012 6:07 PM "Boulder" problem. I do believe more social intervention is reasonable but legislating is a waste of resources.

1123 Its not any worse than any other college town Nov 13, 2012 6:06 PM

1124 Every week I read in the Daily Camera about a drunk driving accident or drunken Nov 13, 2012 6:03 PM arrest. Drunks pose a danger to the entire community.

1125 Over consumption happens everywhere. I don't see how Boulder is any different Nov 13, 2012 5:59 PM from Denver or any other town, college or not.

1126 Every city that exists in the world has a problem with alcohol consumption. I do Nov 13, 2012 5:49 PM not notice Boulder having a problem with excessive consumption of alcohol. I live in north Boulder. If I lived near downtown or The Hill my views may be different.

1127 It's a collegetown and there will always be a high level of alcohol consumption in Nov 13, 2012 5:36 PM a college town.

1128 Boulder is a college town so of course there will be drinking. Stop trying to close Nov 13, 2012 5:36 PM bars, that forces college students to drink at house parties.

1129 With the exception of "The Hill," a place I seldom visit, I haven't seen loud and Nov 13, 2012 5:33 PM nasty drunks on the street.

1130 I do not think it is my business, (or, Boulder, yours) except when there are Nov 13, 2012 5:30 PM external results.

1131 There is a drinking culture, but that's because there's a huge university in Nov 13, 2012 5:28 PM Boulder. It's inevitable. Further restricting drinking laws won't change how much people drink, it'll just change where they drink.

1132 I've never seen an issue in the bars/taverns etc that I frequent no fighting or folks Nov 13, 2012 5:19 PM acting ridiculous.

1133 It is a college town. It is to be expected. Nov 13, 2012 5:15 PM

1134 I am a professional working in Denver, and live on 13th Street, near Cascade. I Nov 13, 2012 5:14 PM

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have lived there for nearly two years. I have also lived in other states and countries. I have had to ask my student-aged neighbors that the music be turned down exactly once. They immediately complied. I also visit Hill establishments such as Aion and the Cosmo's Pizza annex, and have not once had a problem with overdrinkers. In all, I am amazed that such a large University has so few visible alcohol instances. I read about problems in the paper, but rarely, if ever see anything. If over-consumption is a problem on the Hill, I have yet to see any real evidence of it.

1135 A relative handful of idiots in one area of town is not a city-wide problem. Nov 13, 2012 5:13 PM

1136 Plenty of stories in the local media about drunk college students. Recent major Nov 13, 2012 5:13 PM auto accidents caused by DUI driver. I have observed rowdy, drunk college students in the Hill.

1137 Prove it with real statistics and data instead of Daily Camera/City Council Nov 13, 2012 5:10 PM consensus.

1138 I think people in Boulder like to enjoy themselves, but because there is a large Nov 13, 2012 5:04 PM student population, the powers that be are hypersensitive to this issue.

1139 Just because 20/20 mentioned boulder in a story does not make it a problem. Go Nov 13, 2012 4:55 PM to Florida on spring break, that's a problem, and one with a long tradition that the media likes.

1140 I believe that house parties provide excessive amounts of alcohol to students on Nov 13, 2012 4:54 PM the University Hill. It is important to keep bars open so that intake may be more regulated. Closing bars will lead to more house parties, increased alcohol intake, and possibly increased drug intake.

1141 It depends on what you consider a problem ... this is wording that I figure I'd Nov 13, 2012 4:45 PM typically see from the city on an issue like this. Boulder has just as much drinking, even less, than many other colleges across the nation. Drinking and alcoholism isn't mainly a group problem -- it is a personal problem that should be addressed from a person to a person and not from a city to a neighborhood that thrives off night life and businesses that thrive off the sale of associated night life. You're killing your city. Stop.

1142 The Camera blew it out of proportion. The city council doesn't represent the Nov 13, 2012 4:44 PM people. This is no different that the bag tax. So Longmont is my place of preference. The flashing yellow lights in the middle of blocks and the lazy people can't walk to the nearest traffic light to cross the street. Keep it up Boulder and We will quit shopping there altogether. We live in Jamestown and your forcing us out of your city.

1143 University of Colorado. It's a problem in EVERY college town. We are not Nov 13, 2012 4:39 PM unique.

1144 Yes, the silly policies have driven young folks to house parties where over Nov 13, 2012 4:37 PM consumption is a problem. We need to encourage all 18+ adults drinking in large groups to be in public places, places regulated by law to have a business interest in not over-serving. Think if the City focused not on "underage drinking" but rather the over-serving that does happen at a few places. The 21 drinking

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age is obviously a huge part of the problem and a barrier to sensible solutions.

1145 This is a college town. We are nowhere near as bad as most other colleges. Nov 13, 2012 4:35 PM Look at the statistics from the police department and compare them nationally.

1146 I believe there are a few establishments who overserve and this is the issue that Nov 13, 2012 4:34 PM should be addressed. New regulations will not help if existing las are not being implemented

1147 I've never encountered any problems. Everyone that is served alcohol is 21 or Nov 13, 2012 4:30 PM over and therefore adults responsible for thei actions. There are plenty of laws on the books as it is. Enforce existing laws. Period. Quit trying to create a nanny state and continuing to make extremely difficult to do business in boulder. Keep in mind the citizens of colorado just voted to treat marijuana like alcohol because we want LESS government.

1148 It is on par with other similar towns. Nov 13, 2012 4:30 PM

1149 I grew-up in Boulder, work in Boulder, and am in Boulder at night frequently, and Nov 13, 2012 4:24 PM I do not perceive there to be any significant issue regarding alcohol consumption in Boulder. I think it is important for Boulder to have some nightlife and vibrance, and any more onerous restrictions imposed on alcohol-serving businesses may have a negative impact on Boulder's social life and economy. Most Boulderites and visitors know that certain areas, such as University Hill, are more to devoted university students and go to the area most suited to them. I believe Pearl Street and the downtown area currently have a great balance between peace/safety and vibrance, and Boulder must be careful not to disturb this balance in either direction.

1150 This s the hill-nazi busybodies afoot again == any of them that moved to the Nov 13, 2012 4:21 PM hillsince prohibition ended have ZERO license to complain.

1151 Boulder is a college town, and like all college towns, deals with their fair share of Nov 13, 2012 4:13 PM college students. While the University may see over consumption, I feel like Boulder is actually an extremely alcohol conscious town. My experience has been that the majority of non-students in Boulder are wine and beer connoisseurs who don't drink to drink, but instead enjoy what they are drinking and take an active role in picking their drinks.

1152 Boulder is a college town with college students. Getting drunk at school is what Nov 13, 2012 4:00 PM "college students" do. Don't blame the restaurants and bars for it. It is not their job to act as parents to these students. If you want to blame someone blame the parents who raised these kids not the business owners who are struggling to get by with their businesses. The last thing they need are more regulations heaped on them. The current laws are just fine. Let's hold the drunks responsible for their actions and not the business owners, Please! And maybe thank the business owners for all the tax dollars they help bring to our town. Thank you.

1153 We've seen evidence on our roads, and it's clear that there is a permissive Nov 13, 2012 3:57 PM atmosphere both near campus and in parts of town.

1154 It's a problem everywhere. It's a college town and people are happy and Nov 13, 2012 3:57 PM celebratory here.

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1155 Observed behavior on Uni Hill and on/around Pearl Street Mall areas. Pools of Nov 13, 2012 3:56 PM vomitus between bus station and courthouse on Monday mornings. Street brawling.

1156 It is "normal" for a college town. Nov 13, 2012 3:51 PM

1157 It seems the same as it has always been, there is just less tollerance for the Nov 13, 2012 3:49 PM stupidity of others these days and goverment feels the need to over-regulate averything.

1158 House parties on the hill are the problem which more often than not get out of Nov 13, 2012 3:48 PM hand with too many people and underage drinking.

1159 I don't like to go to "The Hill" on weekend nights because of all the drunk people. Nov 13, 2012 3:44 PM I don't like driving downtown on Fri or Sat night because I'm afraid some drunk person is going to run across Pearl St. at Broadway in front of my car.

1160 Boulder is an iconic destination for food, drink, entertainment and the great Nov 13, 2012 3:44 PM outdoors. Put simply, we throw a good party. Drinking goes with the territory. Being both a destination for fun-seekers and a University town does create something of a convergence but in spite of its reputation drinking opportunities at bars and restaurants for college students in Boulder are average or less than average compared to most university towns.

1161 Just don't. Nov 13, 2012 3:44 PM

1162 I've never personally encountered any problems with it. Nov 13, 2012 3:43 PM

1163 you only need to see all of the late night bar specials to see it, non cheap booze Nov 13, 2012 3:43 PM after 8pm

1164 I chose yes, but then again it's a college town and it's pretty much happened that Nov 13, 2012 3:41 PM way since colleges have been in existence.

1165 When the only CU football game held at night this season results in the highest Nov 13, 2012 3:40 PM number (ever) admissions to detox, there is a problem.

1166 Sure, students are free to make their own choices (without parents) and either Nov 13, 2012 3:40 PM don't know their own limits or get caught up in peer pressure to drink more.

1167 Drunk drivers kill/maim innocent people and damage property of others. Folks Nov 13, 2012 3:36 PM walking around inebriated are troublesome, obnoxious, disruptive, loud, rude and destructive.

1168 Its a college town and it should be expected. I don't think Boulder has too much Nov 13, 2012 3:34 PM of an issue when compared to areas of downtown Denver including LoDo and Uptown. I think that really this reflects the ongoing issue between the school and the city the Boulder.

1169 students will be students - no amount of regulation will change their behavior it Nov 13, 2012 3:32 PM will just hurt local business'

1170 Although I love the culture, I am concerned about how many tragic Nov 13, 2012 3:32 PM events involving alcohol have occured and how dangerous our late night hours

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seem.

1171 no more than anywhere else in our nation Nov 13, 2012 3:23 PM

1172 I would say that the Homeless consuming in public places is an issue. More so Nov 13, 2012 3:23 PM that trouble on the Hill or the Pearl Street Mall. I do not think it's a generalized issue with everyone that there is a problem with overconsumption.

1173 Yes, but specifically within the CU Boulder Student population. I don't think over Nov 13, 2012 3:22 PM consumption is an issue with non-student Boulder residents.

1174 No more than anywhere else in this country. Nov 13, 2012 3:22 PM

1175 And I think the City wastes an obscene amount of time worrying about college Nov 13, 2012 3:20 PM kids being college kids while its also busy putting together head shop regulations so every high school in town can get baked - er, I mean, medicated - for something that continues to be illegal under federal law...

1176 It seems pretty obvious that Boulder has a problem with alcohol and other drugs Nov 13, 2012 3:17 PM when the university routinely makes it to the top of lists of party schools. Also, the occasional death of a 20-something student on the hill contributes to my impression that Boulder has a binge drinking problem.

1177 Alcohol over consumption is not the problem, lack of personal responsibility is Nov 13, 2012 3:15 PM the problem. You will not be able to address the real problem by trying to control the symptoms.

1178 In college student areas, like Frats, etc. there can be issues. Nov 13, 2012 3:15 PM

1179 Alcohol consumption is a problem in college Nov 13, 2012 3:10 PM

1180 Injuries, deaths, and substance abuse at the worst end of the spectrum, and Nov 13, 2012 3:08 PM fighting, trash, litter, DUI, screaming all at late hours at the other end of the spectrum.

1181 Absolutely not. Sure, college kids drink to excess. Neither your laws, nor your Nov 13, 2012 3:07 PM restrictions will change that. Overconsumption is a function of many things, often a combination of intoxicants. You want to help? Educate or don't do anything at all.

1182 I think that recently, alcohol consumption in Boulder has become less of a Nov 13, 2012 2:58 PM problem. While I would agree, as a student of CU, that certain students still choose to partake in excessive drinking, the majority of those who come here to seek a degree are looking to party more responsibly. I think that more laws trying to hinder alcohol consumption will not only provoke more dangerous drinking, it will also deeply hurt the city's sales tax economy.

1183 More so with the culture than it is the licensed establishments. CU has a lot to Nov 13, 2012 2:57 PM do with this, house parties. Restaurants and bars more often deal with younger, intoxicated persons when they come out as such, not because they served them to such. If tolerance or other circumstances work against them, this could be very unfair to the establishment.

1184 As someone that has lived all over the US, I feel that a few citizens have made Nov 13, 2012 2:56 PM

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alcohol regulation their life focus thus unfairly skewing public policy. Alcohol education should be the focus, and not more regulations.

1185 I think it is mainly student centric. I don't see older residents who have issues. Nov 13, 2012 2:55 PM This is a problem the school needs to sort out, not the city as a whole.

1186 Boulder is a college town, thus the heavy drinking by college student. I am Nov 13, 2012 2:55 PM originally from upstate New York and the cities I lived in there (all the same size as Boulder) also had areas with high drinking because of college students. I did the same thing when I was in college. Everyone does. Also, Boulder is filled with "transplants" that move here after college and like to go out drinking and have fun. I did it after college and I still do it now in my late 30's (although much less often now than when I was in my 20's). It's a fact of life. Boulder is a very dense city. If people don't like to be around drinking, they can move! Over- regulation is NOT the answer!

1187 The hill and pearl street establishments continue to over serve the college Nov 13, 2012 2:54 PM students, which escalates the crime rate significantly at night, specifically Thursday through Sunday.

1188 I especially am annoyed by street bums passed out on the PSM urinating while Nov 13, 2012 2:53 PM lying on the benches. I also think college age alcoholism is a problem. Be careful not to force them to drive somewhere beyond the hill in order to get drunk.

1189 Deaths of college students are unacceptable. Nov 13, 2012 2:49 PM

1190 It is a large college town and trying to regulate what happens in a majority of Nov 13, 2012 2:47 PM college towns is un-American. Drinking will continue, regardless of regulations implemented, but it will be a lot less coltrolled and more sporadic. There are a few people who complain and then cause the rest to suffer, not cool!

1191 Actually, it's a problem in any city with a large university. Alcohol consumption in Nov 13, 2012 2:46 PM a young population is always a problem.

1192 I don't see it as being any different than in any city. College kids will party- that's Nov 13, 2012 2:38 PM a fact of the matter for any college town. If you close down the bars they'll just move the parties to houses in the residential areas- or if they're only open downtown, kids will be more likely to drive than walk to the bars. I think this will cause more serious implications in the long run.

1193 It's a college town, it's moderate at best. Nov 13, 2012 2:37 PM

1194 I think that some negative impacts do indeed exist, but the issue is not as Nov 13, 2012 2:29 PM widespread as we are led to believe. In my experience and observations as a student at CU, the issue of over consumption of alcohol in Boulder is most prevalent in the under 21 years old demographic. Students, residents, and visitors below the legal drinking age account primarily for the mass of students that walk University Hill making disturbances. The presence of this large volume of individuals is not a problem in itself, it is when drinking (excessively or otherwise) contributes to disorderly conduct by some members of these groups - noise, fights, safety concerns (stumbling, disregard for traffic), etc.

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1195 It happens, people drink sometimes they drink too much, like in any other city of Nov 13, 2012 2:28 PM this size.

1196 It seems normal to me. Nov 13, 2012 2:27 PM

1197 every college town has the same issues with students drinking. creating more Nov 13, 2012 2:26 PM onerous regulations for local business is not the way to address these issues.

1198 College kids like to drink and are not provided a safe and structure societal Nov 13, 2012 2:25 PM environment in which to do so. So, when they get their hands on alcohol, they overconsume.

1199 heavy drinking in my neighborhood, across Baseline from Williams Village, is Nov 13, 2012 2:22 PM always tied to football games. If they win, then all heck breaks loose.

1200 First off, how is it the government's responsibility to define what "over" Nov 13, 2012 2:22 PM consumption actually is? Honestly, I think the true over consumption is the Liquor Authority's over consumption of power. I'm ashamed that Boulder City Council thinks this is a smart way to spend resources.

1201 I haven't heard about many instances where drinking has contributed to crimes Nov 13, 2012 2:21 PM or an increase in crime, haven't seen any violence as a result of drinking since I moved to Boulder three years ago.

1202 In case you haven't noticed, Boulder is a college town. Students drink. Students Nov 13, 2012 2:19 PM drink to excess. This has always been the case always will be the case.

1203 Because some young people binge drink-the boys get violent and aggressive,the Nov 13, 2012 2:18 PM girls can easily get taken advantage of and it is disturbing on many levels

1204 No more than anywhere, actually better than the places i lived before. Nov 13, 2012 2:18 PM

1205 I moved to Boulder in 1948--and lived there over 50 yrs. It seems the alcohol Nov 13, 2012 2:16 PM consumption problem is getting worse based on the related problems I read about in the Camera and in talking with friends/family who are still there. Perhaps the university needs to be more proacative in their response to the problems.

1206 People like to drink, occasionally they drink too much during a fun night out. It's Nov 13, 2012 2:15 PM their choice, not Boulder's problem. Education is the best solution.

1207 College studenst drink wherever they are. Nov 13, 2012 2:13 PM

1208 There will always be plenty of availability of alchohol. Most CU students drink at Nov 13, 2012 2:13 PM home before going out to bars because it's less expensive. Limiting the number of establishments will only make the remaining ones more crowded which could lead to more problems.

1209 I don't think Boulder is any different then any other college town. Nov 13, 2012 2:12 PM

1210 Its only amplified becasue boulder has no other high levels of crime to deal with, Nov 13, 2012 2:02 PM in larger cities it would be a non issue.

1211 No more than in any other college town. Nov 13, 2012 2:02 PM

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1212 i used to work nights at boulder high, the drunks were everywhere, making a Nov 13, 2012 2:02 PM mess and being just plain stupid.

1213 Alcohol consumption is a personal choice. It is not within the city's rights to try to Nov 13, 2012 1:59 PM regulate it. Let businesses be and capitalism will drive these businesses.

1214 Judging by the vague, loaded nature of this question and how questions 6-8 are Nov 13, 2012 1:59 PM worded I'm guessing you are really more interested in addressing the "problem" of CU students being CU students, particularly in the hill area where many city councilpeople seem to own land. Your intentions are pretty transparent, so just come out and say you want to run kids off the hill by shutting down businesses that cater to them and increasing the cost of land/rent as much as possible. Seems pretty obvious that's what you're interested in by reading this survey.

1215 An individual chooses to drink. Attempting to regulate this is a gross intrusion Nov 13, 2012 1:58 PM into the lives of the citizenry and a waste of government resources which will inevitably harm local business. So long as the individual doesn't put others at risk with his/her behaviour government has no right to intercede.

1216 We see it every weekend, in person and in the news. We have encountered and Nov 13, 2012 1:57 PM sought help for dangerously intoxicated young adults near our home.

1217 myob Nov 13, 2012 1:55 PM

1218 Fosters an attitude that students are at CU to get drunk and party, rather than to Nov 13, 2012 1:54 PM work. I don't mind people drinking (and I'm happy to fail the students who drink instead of studying for my classes), but when drunken parties have negative effects on those of us who live and work in the neighborhoods, that's a problem.

1219 Alcohol is legal to drink, and people are allowed to decide how much they wish Nov 13, 2012 1:52 PM to consume. If that happens to be too much, it is none of your business.

1220 I don't think it's any more excessive than any college town Nov 13, 2012 1:49 PM

1221 I don't live in Boulder and the numerous times I have visited, there didn't seem to Nov 13, 2012 1:48 PM be any indication that there was a problem with anyone who drinks. At least in the establishments i have patronized in both the down town area and on the Hill.

1222 I've lived in this town my whole life and I can say that it is only getting worse. Nov 13, 2012 1:44 PM Especially on the Hill. There is a culture of over consuption in this town and places like K's China, who encourage this behavior, need to be shut down. Every kid in this town knows K's is where one goes to buy alcohol or other drugs underage, and it has never changed.

1223 It's pandemic in Boulder, particularly around the University. Students drive drunk, Nov 13, 2012 1:41 PM as well.

1224 I think alcohol over consumption is a problem across the country. It is a problem Nov 13, 2012 1:37 PM in Boulder as well, but not necessarily any worse here than other places - especially college towns.

1225 I think it is a problem but not worse than other college towns. Nov 13, 2012 1:37 PM

1226 I live on the Hill. Drunks, broken bottles, and party debris are obvious whenever I Nov 13, 2012 1:36 PM

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leave the house.

1227 Its a college town. If people want to drink then they can just go to the liquor Nov 13, 2012 1:34 PM store. Your proposal doesnt fix the problem of WHY people drink.

1228 It's a problem in almost every town with a sizable college population. Nov 13, 2012 1:29 PM

1229 alcohol over consumption is a problem everywhere Nov 13, 2012 1:29 PM

1230 Although many students and residents drink and participate in binge drinking, I Nov 13, 2012 1:25 PM don't think it is at a higher level than any other college town.

1231 this is reflected statistically in the number of alcohol related crimes in the city. Nov 13, 2012 1:25 PM

1232 There is an extreme examples, but I also think a lot of people end up with really Nov 13, 2012 1:24 PM harsh sentences around people who are walking home and have had 1 or 2 beers.

1233 It happens around every major college campus. Nov 13, 2012 1:23 PM

1234 What do you mean by 'Problem'? This should be defined otherwise it is left up to Nov 13, 2012 1:22 PM the individual not a consensus agreement based on the definition. A problem by what standard?

1235 I am frequently accosted by people reeking of liquor who want me to give them Nov 13, 2012 1:16 PM money. I frequently find people passed out inside my apartment building. I frequently observe people to great excess in the alleyway between the Millennium Harvest House and the rear store entrances beside the Safeway on 28th & Arapahoe. Since the Bottles store opened, the increase of drunks in the neighborhood has increased three-fold.

1236 I think there are certainly issues, but likely no more than any other college town. Nov 13, 2012 1:14 PM When you have a lot of college students and others in that age range, with an active social/night-life scene, people are going to drink.

1237 It's a college town. You should see other college towns. They are like small Nov 13, 2012 1:12 PM areas of alcoholics compared to boulder

1238 Over consumption by college students is, and has always been, an issue since Nov 13, 2012 1:11 PM the dawn of time. Primarily surrounding CU football games and the aftermath in University Hill. I do not see overconsumption as a problem elsewhere in Boulder and I avoid all areas where college kids gather.

1239 Lack of appropriate education of students and recent graduates and a culture of Nov 13, 2012 1:11 PM binge drinking.

1240 It's the people who are the problem, not the alcohol Nov 13, 2012 1:10 PM

1241 Property vandalism; public drunkeness; drunken driving incidents Nov 13, 2012 1:07 PM

1242 No more than anywhere else. Nov 13, 2012 1:05 PM

1243 Having a son, we are mostly home by 8pm, so I do not see the issue on Pearl. I Nov 13, 2012 1:01 PM will say the homeless on Boulder creek and by the library are the largest problem

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and biggest concern. I hadn't also heard this from many friends and visitors.

1244 I have seen over-intoxicated individuals in Boulder, primarily downtown, and they Nov 13, 2012 12:57 PM act obnoxiously, cause trouble.

1245 This seems to be targeting college students. Yes, some students indeed over Nov 13, 2012 12:55 PM drink. This is a result of individauls decisions and cannot be controlled by the city. I think it happens among students that are under 21.

1246 The most abusive drunks I've run into are the local homeless. On the rare Nov 13, 2012 12:51 PM occasion I encounter drunk taxpayers, it is a non - event. Please stop trying to be everyone's nanny

1247 I have lived in University area, as well as central and north Boulder. Near the Nov 13, 2012 12:48 PM campus and student housing there is a severe impact of youth who over consume alcohol on residents and peers. In the other neighborhoods there may be lots of private over consumption but it is not affecting the nearby residents as much.

1248 Yes, not only for college students age 21 and over, but younger college and high Nov 13, 2012 12:47 PM school students.

1249 Underaged drinking is a serious problem around the university hill area. New Nov 13, 2012 12:45 PM college students and underage drinking flock to the hills for house parties resulting in under aged drinking and a loud and dangerous late night area of Boulder. As a CU student aged 21 I avoid the under aged drinking of the hill because of loud students congregating on the hill, leading to public consumption and physical/verbal harassment among students and residents (ex: people yelling obscene insults and starting fights)

1250 It is obviously a problem because students die from alcohol poisoning every Nov 13, 2012 12:36 PM year.

1251 Boulder has no bigger drinking problem than any other college town. Nov 13, 2012 12:33 PM

1252 Too many accidents/ fights/ altercations involving alcohol for a population density Nov 13, 2012 12:31 PM this size. Also much too available for chronic homeless people with dependence issues.

1253 Heavy drinking is contained to very limited areas. Limits on these areas will drive Nov 13, 2012 12:31 PM people to consume alcohol in other places. It will take what is a contained area of concern and drive to a larger more wide spread problem.

1254 please do not drive more partying to the neighborhoods. Nov 13, 2012 12:31 PM

1255 my main concern is over the frequency of crimes/problems created as a result of Nov 13, 2012 12:30 PM alcohol consumption, and the resources it takes from law enforcement and the strain it places upon other residents.

1256 Many police incidents involve persons who are way over the legal limit. The high Nov 13, 2012 12:30 PM level of intoxication leads to poor judgement, which negatively effects both individuals and the community.

1257 increasing violence on Hill/Mall. Lack of safety. Nov 13, 2012 12:30 PM

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1258 Boulder is a large college town. Alcohol consumption is inevitable and college Nov 13, 2012 12:30 PM kids are going to binge drink.

1259 I have not seen a real indication of over consumption in Boulder. I do not count Nov 13, 2012 12:26 PM "outlier" activities or holidays, such as St. Patrick's Day or Halloween.

1260 Over consumption is as american as apple pie. I travel alot and spend alot of Nov 13, 2012 12:26 PM time eating late dinners in bars. Boulder is way more normal then Boulder likes to think it is.

1261 I see it has a problem of some individuals, but I would not say that it has Nov 13, 2012 12:26 PM anything to do with the location or availability of alcohol.

1262 Too many transients are getting drunk and sleeping in public, making our Nov 13, 2012 12:19 PM beautiful town ugly.

1263 It seems bartenders continue to serve (I notice it most in the 21-35yr old Nov 13, 2012 12:18 PM crowds). Lots of "walking-while-drunk" after midnight hours, especially on weekends.

1264 Too much of a "party" atmosphere on the Hill, resulting in higher crime in the Nov 13, 2012 12:17 PM area.

1265 Over consumption of alcohol is a problem everywhere, not just Boulder. There Nov 13, 2012 12:13 PM are currently enough laws in place to regulate alcohol, there is no need for more.

1266 I've lived in a number of college towns and Boulder is way less rowdy than most Nov 13, 2012 12:11 PM of them. I've never felt unsafe or unwelcome walking around the Hill on a weekend night.

1267 I think that on University Hill it is a bit excessive, but at the same time college in Nov 13, 2012 12:10 PM general is a lot like this everywhere. I think the bigger issue is if residents feel it is effecting their quality of life, or if it is disturbing the downtown atmosphere of Pearl Street. I personally don't see heavy drinking before about 11PM, which is after the time that most who would be offended by such action are no longer present downtown.

1268 The Hill area tends to look unkempt and careless. There are some careless Nov 13, 2012 12:10 PM attitudes promoted - denial, mistreatment of others, thinking alcohol is some sort of solution, some students have suffered from extreme alcohol poisoning, even to death, CU's president has even been cited for DUI, if reports are true - all a low standard of care for the community

1269 It's going to happen regardless of these new rules. Just raise the taxes on them Nov 13, 2012 12:10 PM to pay for more police/EMT patrols. The legal drinking age is 21 for a reason; if people can't handle it they need to deal with the consequences. You are trying to punish the many (including establishments) for the actions of few.

1270 I was a student at CU, and understand the negative impact of drinking culture. Nov 13, 2012 12:06 PM This will always be a part of college culture, but it would serve students better to move bars off of the hill.

1271 Anybody who walks though the University Hill area after dark and / or on a Nov 13, 2012 12:06 PM

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weekend or "game day" will never dispute that over consumption is a problem, particularly in the Hill area

1272 Over consumption is a problem, but that is the nature of town that houses a Nov 13, 2012 12:03 PM younger college demographic. Sure it would be nice if everyone could control themselves, but that is not the case. Tighter restrictions will just move the crowds to those bars. Thus the city of Boulder will decide who can make a living and who can't.

1273 I see it most everyday Nov 13, 2012 12:02 PM

1274 This is a student town, you'll always have a FEW students who overindulge. But Nov 13, 2012 12:02 PM that's true of non-students as well. The issue is that restricting bars/nightclubs and similar business on the Hill pushes students into house parties, where there's more opportunity to drink to excess. The Hill should be welcoming to liquor establishments, where over consumption can be controlled and mitigated by bartenders, bouncers, etc.

1275 It's a COLLEGE TOWN Nov 13, 2012 12:01 PM

1276 I lived in Boulder for 33 years before moving out to Erie. I know there are Nov 13, 2012 12:01 PM problems related to over consumption, but I don't think it is any more rampant than in any municipality...

1277 I wouldn't say in Boulder in general. Maybe on the hill where college students Nov 13, 2012 12:00 PM are, but that would be expected in any college town.

1278 I do not believe that this is a problem that exists only in Boulder. I believe that Nov 13, 2012 11:58 AM much of the issues we have are due to our high populations of transits and homeless as well as the College population

1279 Any university town is going to have a high level of alcohol consumption. I don't Nov 13, 2012 11:54 AM believe that will change, but it can (and should, in my opinion) be concentrated in designated areas.

1280 Abuse is a more wide spread issue than in Boulder. I do not see us as any Nov 13, 2012 11:53 AM different than the majority of college towns.

1281 Personally, I've lived in several cities and find that alcohol consumption in Nov 13, 2012 11:53 AM Boulder is much better controlled compared to cities of similar population and make-up. Laws can always be improved, but I'm not sure it's seriously necessary in Boulder.

1282 Maybe isolated areas but overall no. Nov 13, 2012 11:51 AM

1283 It's a college town, there isn't a college town in the US (that isn't dry) that doesn't Nov 13, 2012 11:28 AM think it has an "over consumption problem". But truth be told, where there is demand - there is supply.

1284 as with any community, binge drinking can be a problem Nov 13, 2012 11:17 AM

1285 Over consumption is a problem on the hill and/or among college students. Nov 13, 2012 11:17 AM

1286 Open alcohol and marijuna use at the outdoor parks and civic center parks - on Nov 13, 2012 11:17 AM

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hiking trails, and drunk people on the city buses

1287 Frquent reports of alcohol-related crime, especially on Uni Hill and Downtown.. Nov 13, 2012 11:14 AM

1288 While an individual may over consume I don't see how these regulations will help Nov 13, 2012 11:13 AM that and it is persoanl choice and responsibility. If an unlawful act is done after having over consumed there is already a law to punish that.

1289 It is a problem in every college town. Parents do not sufficiently prepare their Nov 13, 2012 11:10 AM children for the college experience.

1290 Yes, but not anymore than similar college towns. Nov 13, 2012 11:09 AM

1291 As a CU graduate, I saw a lot of young people over consuming alcohol and Nov 13, 2012 11:08 AM creating problems for themselves and the community.

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1 I believe most over-consumption occurs at house parties or apartments. I have Nov 30, 2012 12:12 PM seen some out of control people around town, but I typically suspect they are also under the influence of drugs. I believe socializing in establishments where there is oversight is preferable to shifting that activity to private residences.

2 No regulation in house parties. Bars can police the crowd houses cannot. Nov 30, 2012 11:19 AM

3 There is no regulation at house parties. There is not even anyone there to Nov 30, 2012 10:53 AM enforce the drinking age laws.

4 College kids will drink somewhere if they want. Houses, on the streets. Not just Nov 30, 2012 10:26 AM bars and restaurants. At least there they can be cut off.

5 The hill. Nov 30, 2012 9:58 AM

6 People drink more when they are with their closest friends, and when the fewest Nov 30, 2012 9:30 AM number of strangers are watching i.e. at a private residence or house party.

7 Pearl Street Nov 30, 2012 9:15 AM

8 Students, in particular, will always find a way to drink. As a former CU student, I Nov 30, 2012 9:14 AM would say house parties are the weapon of choice. Boulder bars and restaurants, in my opinion, encourage this activity which is why I support zoning changes. Control the controllables.

9 Kids go to house parties after drinking at the bars/restaurants. They are already Nov 30, 2012 7:20 AM completely drunk by the time they get to drink more. Stop this.

10 Over consumption is not a problem. Alcohol is consumed at bars on pearl street Nov 30, 2012 6:29 AM for the most part.

11 From my experiences and what I've seen most people in Boulder go to house Nov 29, 2012 11:28 PM parties and get intoxicated and then move to bars later on and them over drinking at house parties is the reason for the problems. I think the amount of people that drink until intoxication in bars in Boulder would be surprisingly small. If you would like to see the greatest amount of progress in the shortest amount of time focus police on private residences, where there is no supervision and trained professionals.

12 It isn't the location it's the people. Nov 29, 2012 11:27 PM

13 Private parties are the biggest issue in Boulder due to the lack of places for both Nov 29, 2012 10:31 PM of age and under-age patron to party legally. This plays out routinely in places where there are too little distractions.

14 Underage kids drinking at house or fraternity parties is the main cause of Nov 29, 2012 10:17 PM problems with alcohol on the hill

15 Fratenities Nov 29, 2012 10:03 PM

16 This is where underage drinking occurs, with easy access to free alcohol. No Nov 29, 2012 9:59 PM one is monitoring as they do in bars.

17 There are more underage students (this is including the high school students Nov 29, 2012 9:51 PM

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who show up to college parties) than students of age. Thus, the majority of consumption is going to take place at house parties rather than at bars.

18 Restaurants and taverns are able to monitor how intoxicated guests are, Nov 29, 2012 9:49 PM however, private residences do not, nor do they refrain from supplying a person with more alcohol.

19 If it happens can occur anywhwre Nov 29, 2012 9:35 PM

20 It is rarely an issue, but when it is it is in relation to private parties. Nov 29, 2012 9:32 PM

21 People need to learn their limits, and more often than not it is underage students Nov 29, 2012 9:22 PM that drink at friends houses.

22 Limiting legal drinking establishments will just cause more drinking in private Nov 29, 2012 9:15 PM residences. It's better to have drinking in a controlled environment where bar employees can monitor consumption.

23 To blame 3 or 4 businesses for the over consumption of alcohol is absolutely Nov 29, 2012 8:49 PM absurd. If people on the hill aren't drinking at the bars on the hill they will drink the exact same amount at either a house or another bar. This is the kind of regulation that will destroy local businesses and lives without having a single positive impact. The proposition is offensive.

24 Boulder is already strict on fake ids, the bars on the hill are really only gone to by Nov 29, 2012 8:47 PM people 21 and up. The "over consumption" happens at house parties where people aren't paying for every drink.

25 Private residences and specific businesses. Nov 29, 2012 8:44 PM

26 I believe that it's a rare occurrence for over consumption to happen at Nov 29, 2012 8:41 PM bars/restaurants due to the waitstaff/bartenders being diligent about not serving to those who are clearly over their limits. Whereas at house parties there is nobody to monitor them and there is typically an abudence of alcohol.

27 At house parties, you have both underaged and older kids but at bars it's mostly Nov 29, 2012 5:42 PM 21 and up. People still like the house party vibe even if they can go to the bars.

28 The Hill & surrounding neighborhoods Nov 29, 2012 5:16 PM

29 I don't know where the consumption occurs. The problems I notice are on Nov 29, 2012 5:10 PM sidewalks that lead to campus, but not on the CU campus itself.

30 Overzealous local officials should not place these new, excessive alcohol Nov 29, 2012 4:49 PM regulations on local business owners.

31 The Hill is a cesspool. Nov 29, 2012 4:28 PM

32 Most people who drink in bars have jobs and can therefore afford $5.00 beers. Nov 29, 2012 4:06 PM More power to them.

33 Consumption of Alcohol occurs by adults in all locations. Desire to target the Nov 29, 2012 3:35 PM minority of alcohol users by inhibiting the ability of responsibility of users has a negative impact on the city. The city will push many businesses out of its city

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limits. Over consumption is not something that the City of Boulder can regulate or limit through zoning laws. Please do not waste your time and my tax money.

34 It happens. Businesses tend to be responsible because of the threat of sanction. Nov 29, 2012 3:05 PM House parties are probably the most likely venues because of the lack of sober oversight. But it is wrongheaded, mean-spirited, and simply not effective the measures being proposed. Instead, Boulder should concentrate on preventing drunk driving and other public nuisances through effective patrolling and enforcement.

35 It is individual people who are making bad decisions, not any specific business Nov 29, 2012 2:56 PM or location.

36 Most under-age students party at houses and they are the members of society Nov 29, 2012 2:44 PM that are more irresponsible about their alcohol consumption. If you limit alcohol consumption at proper facilities that have liquor licenses more house parties will occur, which will increase the amount of under-age drinking because facilities with liquor licenses are able to regulate under-age drinkers better than house parties.

37 I don't see a particular problem with alcohol in Boulder. Young people have Nov 29, 2012 2:42 PM always drank and will always continue to drink. If you want to see real alcohol issues, there are much, much worse places than Boulder.

38 House parties, fraternity/sorority parties Nov 29, 2012 2:39 PM

39 Half Fast Subs Nov 29, 2012 2:39 PM

40 I don't know...I don't live in Boulder. Nov 29, 2012 2:36 PM

41 Most people over consume at multiple locations in an evening. Nov 29, 2012 10:48 AM

42 Campus parties but also along the creek path and other areas occupied by Nov 29, 2012 9:43 AM homeless people.

43 This is based on my discussion with fellow students, visiting as an undergrad, Nov 28, 2012 7:21 PM and my personal undergrad experience at a different school.

44 Business is not the problem here. Nov 28, 2012 7:18 PM

45 When I lived on the hill and attended "house" parties I experienced almost a law Nov 28, 2012 7:16 PM less/ careless atmosphere. At least at restaurants and bars customers are monitored to some extent and are normally sent away if they get out of hand. The bar's security usually do a really good job minimizing any ot of line behavior. There is absolutely no authority in residential areas except for the Police who drive through every once in a while. Unfortunately they are usually to late when you need them.

46 The Hill is hell on earth. Nov 28, 2012 7:05 PM

47 If students can't grab a couple drinks at friendly places like the Sink, which is Nov 28, 2012 6:38 PM monitored by ADULTS, they will just get drunk in their homes unsupervised

48 Despite much of the consumption occurring at private residences, many people Nov 28, 2012 6:37 PM

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who consume at there either begin or end their consumption at bars anyway. So bars may still be of concern.

49 People play drinking games at their own houses that require them to drink far Nov 28, 2012 6:14 PM more alcohol than they would at a bar or restaurant.

50 Fraternities, in my experience, are far more dangerous regarding alcohol Nov 28, 2012 5:23 PM consumption than bars.

51 I have seen over consumption on pearl street. Nov 28, 2012 5:16 PM

52 Bars have people to make sure that patrons are not over served. Nov 28, 2012 5:03 PM

53 Fraternites and house parties Nov 28, 2012 4:30 PM

54 Boulder is a college town, all college towns have somewhat of an issue Nov 28, 2012 4:26 PM concerning over consumption but that will not change no matter what stipulations are placed.

55 It's mainly the little kids, highschool and college. Nov 28, 2012 4:21 PM

56 In Boulder I mean, in other places its probably in bars Nov 28, 2012 1:09 PM

57 Most of the incidences of extreme alcohol abuse have been in private houses by Nov 28, 2012 10:47 AM under age students. This is already against the law, further regulating liquor licenses at businesses or their allowed proximity to each other will simply harm legitimate businesses while doing nothing to hamper binge drinking.

58 The Hill Nov 27, 2012 11:17 PM

59 Businesses are responsible for refusing to overserve intoxicated people in Nov 27, 2012 10:57 PM current law, but there is no regulation at house parties.

60 Pearl Street Nov 27, 2012 10:13 PM

61 Places on the hill, specifically Fraternities. Nov 27, 2012 10:00 PM

62 I have experienced businesses doing a good job keeping disorderly conduct and Nov 27, 2012 9:56 PM overconsumption to reasonable levels.

63 The hill Nov 27, 2012 9:38 PM

64 Drinking seems concentrated in certain areas, but that doesn't prevent drunk Nov 27, 2012 9:30 PM people from wandering to other locations

65 "The Hill". Just head to 12th and College any time around 10 or 11 o clock on Nov 27, 2012 9:30 PM any day.

66 Frat houses Nov 27, 2012 9:22 PM

67 People drink the most at house parties. It is the most dangerous place for Nov 27, 2012 9:08 PM students, and it is the biggest nuisance to residents.

68 House parties and some particular establishments on University Hill are Nov 27, 2012 9:04 PM

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particularly bad about overconsumption of alcohol.

69 Only the largest house parties. It is the only place underage students can drink Nov 27, 2012 8:56 PM freely, and abuse that fact.

70 There is a lot of over consumption at most residences and greek houses on the Nov 27, 2012 8:47 PM hill.

71 The Hill? Nov 27, 2012 8:43 PM

72 Primarily University Hill, but also the University itself Nov 27, 2012 8:42 PM

73 I only notice it on campus. Nov 27, 2012 8:42 PM

74 The Hill Nov 27, 2012 8:29 PM

75 Private homes on the Hill Nov 27, 2012 8:25 PM

76 Fraternity and sorority houses and culture Nov 27, 2012 8:23 PM

77 Fraternity and sorority houses – which also seem to be immune to the same Nov 27, 2012 8:22 PM laws the rest of us follow. i.e. Underage kids consume alcohol there with no problem.

78 When it is not in a controlled enviroment. Nov 27, 2012 4:21 PM

79 I feel the primary location of over consumption of alcohol takes place in private Nov 27, 2012 3:36 PM residences (house parties), university campus and student housing. In my experience, if someone is deemed to be over served or is too drunk to enter an establishment, they are either denied service or asked to leave (or both).

80 The places drinking alcohol actually becomes dangerous the most often is in Nov 27, 2012 2:04 PM private residences.

81 See above comment. All over the city people are enjoying alcohol. Some people Nov 27, 2012 10:36 AM may abuse it (just like everywhere else in the country) but there is no stopping that and punishing everyone else is not the answer.

82 Restaurants solely because of pregaming and its cheaper to drink before you go Nov 27, 2012 10:12 AM to the bars.

83 Goss Grove neighborhood, in particular Arapahoe & 17th area. Nov 27, 2012 8:53 AM

84 Take away the hill restaurants' option to serve after 11 pm and you only Nov 26, 2012 7:48 PM exaggerate this, forcing many people to stay in their homes.

85 Because over-consumption of alcohol occurs whenever there is a will from the Nov 26, 2012 7:16 PM person choosing to do so - it can occur in all these locations. The place over consumption happens the least is in bars with bartenders and staff that are able to spot the signs of over consumption as best possible, and work to stop the customer from becoming too intoxicated. With this being said, it takes a matter of time before the signs of over consumption of alcohol to show, so a person who just took 4 shots may look like a million bucks - until that alcohol starts to enter their bloodstream. ONCE AGAIN - OVER CONSUMPTION IS ALWAYS

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AT THE CHOICE OF THE INDIVIDUAL. I could finish a bottle of Jim Beam before I even finish this survey if I want to.

86 The largest problems are house parties. Nov 26, 2012 7:04 PM

87 Given my opinion (observation, unsupported by data) that the majority of over- Nov 26, 2012 5:16 PM consumption of alcohol is done by undergraduate students, most of it would have to be done inside a private residence because minors wouldn't get served at bars, restaurants, etc. There are a few (very few) establishments in Boulder that are known for serving to minors, but they do not reflect the overall practice by Boulder bars and restaurant, which are VERY strict about carding. I am in the exact age range (and appearance) that SHOULD be I.D.'ed every time, and no bouncer or server (whom I did not know personally) has ever failed to do so.

88 Greeks Nov 26, 2012 5:15 PM

89 The Hill in general Nov 26, 2012 3:58 PM

90 More regulation of bars will lead to more house parties. House parties are much Nov 26, 2012 3:39 PM more dangerous than bars with security.

91 Except for a few rogue liquor stores, I think most businesses in Boulder try to Nov 26, 2012 3:27 PM (and succeed in) doing a good job in making sure patrons are of age and are sensibly served. CU data indicate that drinking on campus is of low concern. HOUSE PARTIES are the biggest problem we face in terms of excessive drinking, under-age drinking, and harm to the neighborhoods.

92 any bar has over consumption. Nov 26, 2012 2:50 PM

93 Through the modifications made in Boulder to the Town liquor laws businesses Nov 26, 2012 2:47 PM have disappeared and there has been a loss of tax revenue. Events at private residences have increased dramatically. Without restaurants and bars potential guests decide to stay home to entertain

94 The real problem of over-consumption of alcohol happens in house parties on Nov 26, 2012 2:16 PM the hill, specifically frats. I find it laughable that the police department goes into these frats and acts as if the students in there with X's are on their hands are drinking. EVERYONE KNOWS THEY ARE DRINKING! Start regulating the hill more.

95 While hard to police inside residents once outside the law should be strictly Nov 26, 2012 2:01 PM enforced.

96 also frat houses Nov 26, 2012 1:31 PM

97 The primary location is most definitely bars and restaurants. That being said, Nov 26, 2012 1:30 PM alcohol is being consumed in established, privately owned businesses. Consumption is a primary source of income for these businesses, applying stricter guidelines on these businesses towards curbing alcohol consumption only discourages economic growth in the community.

98 The problem isn't one-sided. It is a joint effort (e.g. supplier, consumer). The Nov 26, 2012 1:13 PM supplier does not have to be a business, but any person who is willing to by

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alcohol for another individual.

99 Could happen anywhere. Just making sure people make the right deicsions to Nov 26, 2012 1:08 PM get home safe is the key.

100 a person with a drinking problem has that problem where ever they are. This Nov 26, 2012 12:51 PM location is often the home until such a time that they lose their home.

101 I do not really have an answer to this question. Nov 26, 2012 12:38 PM

102 If the above amendment goes into effect, there will be less legitimate areas to Nov 26, 2012 12:07 PM consume alcohol under the watch of licensed vendors. Even more people will resort to drinking in house where it is not controlled or monitored. As an obvious consequence this will move the existing drinking problems closer to other residents as it exacerbates them.

103 Pearl Street Bars NOT Hill bars Nov 26, 2012 11:40 AM

104 underage drinking occurs outside of bars and often on campus with the Nov 26, 2012 11:37 AM freshman

105 House parties can definitely contain large numbers of college students without Nov 26, 2012 11:04 AM available law enforcement monitoring capabilities.

106 Bars are able to keep an eye on patrons, making a safer environment. Nov 26, 2012 10:54 AM

107 Although there is overconsumption of alcohol on the Hill, house parties and frat Nov 26, 2012 10:36 AM parties are the primary cause of overconsumption.

108 This is where I hear from my students that the majority of the underage drinking Nov 26, 2012 9:42 AM is occuring. While this is not the only source of the overconsumption of alcohol, it is what I hear about. I think that the high enforcement of fake IDs is really working. I know a lot of students who will not use fake IDs because they are afraid of getting caught.

109 at least at a bar or restaurant there is some accountability for overserving, Nov 26, 2012 9:39 AM someone keeping an eye on patrons, where at house parties that is not the case

110 only one above could be checked, but Frat houses and apartments where Nov 26, 2012 8:48 AM multiple tenants join together for a larger party...

111 Zoning ordinances I do not think will greatly affect alcohol consumption, but will Nov 26, 2012 8:15 AM hobble current businesses

112 Frats and other house parties that serve to those under 21 Nov 26, 2012 4:13 AM

113 Fraternities, House parties on the Hill Nov 25, 2012 10:59 PM

114 The Hill is a common area near the University campus where students go to Nov 25, 2012 9:20 PM house parties and bars using fake IDs. Parties in campus residence halls and fraternities are also a major concern.

115 If there is a generalized area of overconsumption in Boulder, it stems largely Nov 25, 2012 9:18 PM from underage house parties where there is no supervision.

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116 Over consumption primarily occurs in private residences because there are no Nov 25, 2012 7:56 PM rules and little to no regulation. Businesses on the Hill and Pearl St. regulate their patrons well. They provide Boulder with an atmosphere that makes people want to stay and sustains business in our city. Quite literally, their profit hinges on doing so; it is in their best interest to create a comfortable environment for their customers. After being a student for four years, I know that most law breaking and rowdiness occur from those who make poor decisions at a private residence and then continue to make poor decisions in public. Simply put, at a bar, drinkers are monitored and of legal drinking age where as at a private residence there is little to no regulation.

117 They drink to much secretly when there should be an open door policy Nov 25, 2012 6:16 PM

118 The most probably location of alcohol over consumption is in the privacy of Nov 25, 2012 6:01 PM people's homes, not regulated ares such as businesses or campus.

119 As stated above, over consumption is not an issue in Boulder Nov 25, 2012 3:32 PM

120 I have seen great improvement in this are. I love that students and police officials Nov 25, 2012 2:40 PM are teaming up to lesson the negative effects of alcohol by registering parties. Students feel that they can have fun in moderation and police feel they have greater control. Safety is a concern for all parties involved, but that is why I don't believe over consumption is an actual problem- students understand and respect that.

121 we are college students, most do not have the money to spend on a bunch of Nov 25, 2012 2:14 PM drinks at the bars. We pre-game at our private residences then head to the bars to meet friends and drink a little more, but most over consumption happens in the homes because of pre-gaming and underage drinkers.

122 I actually don't think businesses on the hill are at fault as much as private house Nov 25, 2012 2:08 PM parties and fraternity events. I am not old enough to go to the bars so I don't know about downtown.

123 fraternity parties Nov 25, 2012 1:44 PM

124 All of the above, but specifically the Hill. Maybe a couple bars on Pearl St. Nov 25, 2012 1:05 PM

125 Ks China Nov 25, 2012 12:05 PM

126 the hill, for sure. though I don't live in the hill and never visit, so it doesn't affect Nov 25, 2012 11:22 AM me much. west pearl (West End / Tahona area) is problematic with late-night drinking and such but it doesn't see as bad a LoDo Denver bar area.

127 Look at the occurrences of alcohol related sexual assaults and other crimes Nov 25, 2012 9:13 AM committed and they are focused at private residences. However these are results of the free market system and freedom of choice. To roll this back would be a draconian and anti-American practice.

128 Over consumption at houses (parties/pregaming) can often spillover into other Nov 25, 2012 8:46 AM listed locations (bars/etc)

129 Not sure, maybe the hill? Or by the river. Nov 24, 2012 5:19 PM

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130 Any Idiot can make the decision to over consume, It is neither person nor Nov 24, 2012 12:58 PM location specific.

131 Obviously including fraternity/sorority/other parties in the University Hill area, Nov 24, 2012 12:32 PM where the vast majority of underage alcohol abuse is likely to take place.

132 The hill Nov 23, 2012 8:46 PM

133 Non Greek houses Nov 23, 2012 6:07 PM

134 Off the hill by pearl Nov 23, 2012 5:31 PM

135 Private residences (house parties) present the biggest problem, however liquor Nov 23, 2012 4:22 PM stores are also a big problem. There are also some issues with drink specials and ladies' nights at bars on Pearl Street.

136 I think campus and the hill are rowdy. I think places like K's China encourage Nov 23, 2012 4:11 PM irresponsible drinking. I also think that this is a problem near most college campuses. I think this is where most alcohol related problems are getting out of control.

137 Usually freshman that can't control themselves, everyone else is responsible. Nov 23, 2012 2:36 PM

138 Pearl Street Nov 23, 2012 2:02 PM

139 Most of the problems at the bars and restaurants derive from over consumption Nov 23, 2012 10:29 AM at private residences before hand. Must bars in Boulder are dead until around eleven or twelve then after house parties kids come out and are already drunk.

140 It is often the places where alcohol is already illegal that overconsumption Nov 22, 2012 11:14 PM occurs.

141 there is no over consumption of alcohol in Boulder Nov 22, 2012 2:31 PM

142 I've never seen anybody over-consuming alcohol in these places Nov 22, 2012 12:19 AM

143 Loud house parties that result in students drinking and doing drugs all down the Nov 21, 2012 5:01 PM neighborhood street are the only nuisance I've noticed.

144 You want responses that blame college students, CU, and University Hill. Well Nov 21, 2012 4:03 PM rubbish! Students live all over Boulder. And so do homeless, and professionals, and athletes, and everybody. If you're finding one area with strong alcohol consumption--good for you and your statistics!

145 Secluded areas where homeless with addiction problems reside. But not a big Nov 21, 2012 3:42 PM problem.

146 It's a toss-up between bars and house parties. Bars tend to have some Nov 21, 2012 3:31 PM regulation in the form of bouncers, wait staff, etc. House parties are often uncontrolled.

147 These do not have professional staff to monitor them. Nov 21, 2012 3:06 PM

148 Specific businesses *and* private residences. Consumption is not allowed on Nov 21, 2012 2:19 PM

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campus, and in my experience (as a staff member) is not nearly as significant as what happens in adjacent neighborhoods. I wasn't around before it was banned from campus, but I wonder if consumption was driven into other neighborhoods, student residences as a result of the campus ban. And if so, what do we take from that?

149 In a businesses over consumption is monitored by the employees, in privated Nov 21, 2012 1:34 PM residences problems with over consumption are often over looked by the people throwing the party.

150 in my neighborhood, house parties are an issue; in others, it might be Nov 21, 2012 1:18 PM commercial places like bars

151 also, the creek path Nov 21, 2012 12:26 PM

152 How are we Defining over consumption...Death, taken to the hospital, or just Nov 21, 2012 12:00 PM drunk? The negative impact can be related to anyone drink or not drinking at location in the Boulder. I agree that consumption of Alcohol can help increase noise and conduct issues,

153 Hill and Pearl St. Mall Nov 21, 2012 11:07 AM

154 House Parties were the worst when I went to CU and I have tough time thinking Nov 21, 2012 11:05 AM that this will change, bars and resturaunts are already more responsible than houses for partying and any effort to clamp further down on these establishments will just push more trouble into the neighborhoods.

155 Most instances of over consumption that I've seen or heard of have happened at Nov 21, 2012 10:20 AM house parties where young people are unsupervised, not at bars.

156 I don't know enough to answer the question as posed but for us the main bad Nov 21, 2012 10:20 AM impact from overconsumption is from parties.

157 House parties are where people are more comfortable getting irresponsibly Nov 21, 2012 10:03 AM drunk, because they are at a friends HOUSE. Damn. Who made this survey? Do you really think a normal person would say "Oh geez. I'm at a local establishment around mostly strangers. I'm going to get so wasted a grab a random guy's balls" NO. You would do that a someone's house or some other place you are more comfortable in. Jesus...

158 I believe that house parties are way more likely of over consumption of alcohol Nov 21, 2012 10:01 AM than the bars. With that said, I think that people in Boulder will drink regardless, and taking away the bars may only lead to greater problems.

159 As I said before, I think the biggest problem is with underage students. I used to Nov 21, 2012 9:51 AM be one of them, and house parties are where it all goes down, not bars.

160 Most of the "out of control" intoxicated kids on the hill are under 21 and were not Nov 21, 2012 9:32 AM drinking at the bars.

161 Campus and near the closest liquor stores to homeless shelters. Nov 21, 2012 9:10 AM

162 I also think the fraternity houses are a major problem. Nov 21, 2012 12:07 AM

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163 Private residences are the location of the first and last drinks of most college Nov 20, 2012 11:19 PM students. Insomuch as college students constitute the vast majority of revelers, private residences are the primary source of over-consumption. However, this question focuses on over-consumption, not alcohol related crime. It would behoove any serious study to focus on alcohol related crime, over-which the homeless and out-of -town visitors likely have a disproportionate influence.

164 Quit trying to form a nanny society and let me live my life. Nov 20, 2012 10:26 PM

165 Businesses are more responsible/effective at restricting the sale of/ access to Nov 20, 2012 8:35 PM alcohol. Unlike private residences are licensed to sell alcohol and regulated. Failure to comply with the already strict regulations imposed by the city of Boulder can cost them their license and ultimately their business. Why make it harder on them?

166 People in private residencies have the right to do as they please, which means Nov 20, 2012 7:19 PM consume alcohol as they please.

167 Boulder is notorious for taking fake ID's. Underage students have to seek other Nov 20, 2012 7:05 PM locations to drink alcohol, which is usually a private residence.

168 College kids are going to party, if you make it hard for them they will go to more Nov 20, 2012 7:01 PM extreme measures to getting it done.

169 I lived on the hill for 18 months, but not adjacent to any nearby "party houses." Nov 20, 2012 6:49 PM The walk that I would need to take to get to the business district or campus would take me by 2-5 party houses over the course of the 7 minute walk on a Saturday night. Given the amount of houses on the hill, this density is extremely low, but easy to scapegoat due to the relative ease of finding a house party.

170 Even though it is not a city-wide problem it obviously does happen every now Nov 20, 2012 6:37 PM and then, and when it does, it's usually a college student.

171 This is not a reasonable question. It is positioned as a subjective question but it Nov 20, 2012 6:25 PM is an objective matter.

172 Fraternity Houses Nov 20, 2012 6:04 PM

173 the goose, fraternity houses, house parties... essentially places where underage Nov 20, 2012 6:03 PM and irresponsible people are being served.

174 The residences of alcoholic persons. Those who drink most excessively are Nov 20, 2012 6:02 PM doing so every day and have been doing so for years. They need mental assistance and emotional support to fix their issues. Punishing the rest of Boulder for the mistakes made by alcoholics while incoherently drunk is hardly plausible. Most of the youth drinking in Boulder who create a scene have clean records and do not have a problem with liquor.

175 Including Frat and Sorority houses. Nov 20, 2012 5:54 PM

176 Frat houses Nov 20, 2012 5:52 PM

177 You cannot pinpoint one specific area, you might like to for purposes of "shutting Nov 20, 2012 5:51 PM those areas down" but the location is not important, it boils down to people not

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being educated and responsible, thats the dynamic that needs to change if you want responsible citizens.

178 When kids go to bars they are far less likely to be overserved than at a house Nov 20, 2012 5:47 PM party. By limiting alcohol sale son the hill it will only lead to more over consumption cases due to house parties

179 The ability to drink to a point of over consumption is far more common, easier, Nov 20, 2012 5:45 PM and cheaper at a private residence than any bar.

180 you can't pinpoint the exact location where and when people are going to get Nov 20, 2012 5:45 PM drunk

181 I think most people who have drinking problems or binge drink in Boulder are Nov 20, 2012 5:43 PM usually in their late teens and early twenties and have not learned their limits in regards to alcohol yet. Consequently, most of the over consumption of alcohol I have experienced has been at houses with people who are under the age of 21. I rarely see people who are obviously over-intoxicated at public places like restaurants and bars.

182 If you don't like alcohol don't drink it. There is no reason to restrict the freedoms Nov 20, 2012 5:41 PM of others

183 I believe that individuals drinking in their own homes is the primary location, but it Nov 20, 2012 5:40 PM isn't over consumption.

184 It is easier for underage people to get alcohol and consume it at a house party. Nov 20, 2012 5:36 PM

185 This question is very loaded. Nov 20, 2012 5:34 PM

186 Pearl St possibly Nov 20, 2012 5:33 PM

187 The bars in Boulder are extremely strict about checking IDs and making sure Nov 20, 2012 5:32 PM they are legitimate. In terms of the student population pretty much all students under 21 are doing their drinking at house parties, while those over 21 primarily go to the bars.

188 Again, Keep bars OPEN. People should party at the bars, and keep the Nov 20, 2012 5:30 PM neighborhoods quiet and party free. The nuisances are parties.

189 over consumption is a health risk, not a public safety issue Nov 20, 2012 5:27 PM

190 Civic Center & Central Park where the Homeless gather..... Nov 20, 2012 5:10 PM

191 It is clear that the highest risk drinking occurs in private residences in Boulder, Nov 20, 2012 5:08 PM which is supported by empirical evidence from studies across other college towns. However, individuals tend to consume more in bars on pearl than on bars on the Hill.

192 Again, I believe over-consumption is encouraged in multiple social Nov 20, 2012 8:52 AM circumstances within Boulder.

193 The Hill Nov 20, 2012 7:46 AM

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194 College parties in frat houses and off campus student housing. Nov 19, 2012 7:45 PM

195 Need 3.2 bars so that those under 21 have a place to go. Right now they no Nov 19, 2012 7:41 PM legal place to drink and hang out. When I was in school there were bars that only served 3.2 beer and this kept the house parties to a minimum. Also, the neighborhood on the hill is dirty even when the students aren't drinking.

196 I have a problem with Bacaro on the 900 block of west Pearl. This business Nov 19, 2012 3:30 PM operates as more of a bar than a restaurant and it should never have been given a 2a.m. liquor license because the north side of the block where this building is located, is designated a transitional neighborhood block. There is a chronic noise problem with Bacaro having a DJ on their rooftop patio after midnight and even the inside DJ consistently creates noise problems 3-4 nights a week. In case you did not know, every night at 8 pm, they move all the tables and chairs from the restaurant area and create a dance floor and discoteque. This is completely unacceptable for the area and affects the neighborhood where I live just to the north.

197 If a person has the intent of getting wasted, he or she is going to do it regardless Nov 19, 2012 1:55 PM of whether it is at a bar, a dorm, room, or a house. It seems silly to believe that over-regulating in a way that will negatively impact the majority of responsible adult drinkers is going to change the behavior of the minority problem drinkers.

198 If you don't want over consumption of alcohol than make sure the drinking is Nov 19, 2012 12:56 PM done legally and not right next to your house. ie, a house party.

199 Some people over-consume in any or all of the areas. Others do not over- Nov 19, 2012 12:16 PM consume in any or all of the places.

200 People drink in all kinds of situations. It is legal. What isn't legal is for people who Nov 18, 2012 10:04 PM drink to endanger others through their behavior. The city seems to constantly target businesses without regard for whether or not they follow the guidelines for operating with a liquor license. These are usually small businesses that take keeping their liquor license quite seriously. And, for some reason the city seems to turn a blind eye to businesses that operate off the hill.

201 If you live on the hill, you understand that there are going to be people drinking Nov 18, 2012 7:31 PM there. If you don't want to be around it, don't live on the hill

202 I lived in boulder for fifteen years. I had to leave to find peace and quiet. Nov 18, 2012 9:43 AM

203 The hill parties are always under stocked with booze. The bars have lots of Nov 17, 2012 10:46 PM alcohol but people don't get too drunk because its expensive

204 Students new to college are unaware of how to drink responsibly and Nov 17, 2012 7:14 PM intelligently. CU should have educational classes taught by people in their late 20's early 30's.

205 Embarrassingly suggestive questions. Why not just say, "over consumption of Nov 17, 2012 1:01 PM alcohol is such a terrible problem, right?!"

206 It feels fairly restrained; I work on the hill, and even there, things can 'bump' but it Nov 17, 2012 12:48 PM seems a known concern to those who frequent the area.

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207 The ones that tend to abuse alcohol, if anyone, are the ones typically not old Nov 17, 2012 10:14 AM enough to get it legally.

208 Again, regulation is not going to keep teenagers/20 somethings from drinking. Nov 17, 2012 9:37 AM

209 Frat parties Nov 17, 2012 9:32 AM

210 If students want to drink they will find a place to do it. Weren't we all young Nov 17, 2012 9:28 AM once??? I think the private residence drinking is truly the root of the problem, its after that when they head out and keep drinking that the problems start.

211 University hill area, and other areas where a lot of students live Nov 17, 2012 8:59 AM

212 Pearl Street Mall, and those picking up packaged liquor and drinking along the Nov 16, 2012 10:18 PM creek path.

213 High Schools Nov 16, 2012 9:50 PM

214 There are more ambulance calls to campus than to the hill. Nov 16, 2012 7:23 PM

215 FRATERNITIES Nov 16, 2012 7:18 PM

216 Student and general resident housing is very intermingled here in Boulder Nov 16, 2012 6:31 PM compared to the separation that often exists in other cities. On any given weekend, there are loud house parties, vandalism including graffiti, vehicle and home damage and (the next day), solo cups and beer cans strewn throughout what are otherwise beautiful (and very expensive) neighborhoods. In the summer, other issues like fireworks crop up. Students are going to party. That's a fundamental of college. But the kids here seem, for whatever reason, to be especially inconsiderate and spoiled when they drink. It appears, overall, that the students are winning the battle to control what's allowable vs the tax-paying, property-owning adults. We're fairly new to town and don't yet understand the full set of dynamics at play - but the police sometimes seem powerless to shut house parties down despite repeated calls. And the city doesn't seem to care that its streets are strewn with garbage every Sunday morning. It's odd, compared to other places in the east and west where we've lived - where off- campus housing rules are stringent and enforced and priority is given to keeping the city safe and frankly valuable for home-owning residents.

217 It can happen anywhere. I imagine a lot of over consumption happens in Nov 16, 2012 6:26 PM preparation for events or any plans that might involve alcohol. Often partiers will drink less expensive alcohol in quantities prior to heading to events or taverns where drinks will cost them more. I don't think you can penalize the taverns for over consumption.

218 Also an issue in off campus housing i.e., rental properties. Nov 16, 2012 6:24 PM

219 Over consumption happens at house parties where few regulations are in place Nov 16, 2012 5:49 PM to prevent underage and binge drinking. Limiting alcohol on The Hill will have the opposite affect—driving legal age upper class students to avoid the trip to Pearl St. and consume/buy more liquor at their communal living houses near campus. It's just common sense.

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220 Sanctioned drinking at bars on the Hill is an excellent method to ensuring Nov 16, 2012 5:22 PM responsible drinking as well as restricting noise, littering, traffic, etc. on the western and southern ends of the Hill.

221 In bars/fraternities/restaurants there is somebody to monitor drinking, which isn't Nov 16, 2012 5:18 PM true in random houses.

222 In my opinion, the college students are mostly responsible for any negative Nov 16, 2012 5:16 PM alcohol related occurrences in town

223 People at establishments in Boulder must undergo TIPS training in order to Nov 16, 2012 5:11 PM serve alcohol. That means that every server, bartender, etc is fully equipped to cut someone off and make sure they get home ok. At house parties, this is not the case.

224 Boulder is a college town. With that comes some instances of over Nov 16, 2012 4:23 PM consumption;however, it is not pandemic at all. Keep the laws the same

225 Again, Boulder has a major university and kids are simply going to sow their oats Nov 16, 2012 3:46 PM just as they've done for decades. If you feel drinking on the Hill is a problem to keep aware of - I'd simply put more cops on patrol on weekend nights. I personally have lived in Boulder and around the area for 17 years now and feel the party scene is quite normal. Kids generally walk or bike if drinking & the wilder activity is contained to some Hill houses where kids make bad decisions from time to time. I've never known drinking and driving to be a big problem - especially compared to Denver and larger metro areas.

226 Boulder police do a great job at keeping peace. This knee jerk reaction for more Nov 16, 2012 2:17 PM regulation is absurd and will be detrimental to the hill businesses that have supported the community in such a positive way.

227 Student private parties Nov 16, 2012 1:10 PM

228 Frat houses, parties on the hill. Nov 16, 2012 1:05 PM

229 Most overconsumption is unmonitored and done by underage drinkers. Nov 16, 2012 12:39 PM Responsible bars and restaurants check IDs and cut off those who have had too many, thus keeping consumption responsible

230 Students have a tendency to go overboard when they first experience drinking. Nov 16, 2012 12:31 PM This problem can be alleviated through education, changing the drinking age, and working with the University to find safe avenues for alcohol consumption. A big problem with the current alcohol system revolves around the fact that the system is punitive rather than conciliatory. If alcohol consumption was A) more transparent and B) less have a social taboo excessive drinking would greatly decrease.

231 Better to be safe at home! Nov 16, 2012 12:24 PM

232 Pearl Street mall Nov 16, 2012 12:21 PM

233 Every college town that is full of bars has a population that consumes alcohol on Nov 16, 2012 11:17 AM a regular basis. Over consumption is not the problem as it is exaggerated

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because of it being a college town.

234 There are several academic studies that prove that the density of alcohol Nov 16, 2012 10:49 AM establishments in the midst of a immature, vulnerable,youthful population of 25,000--30,000 contributes to not only binge drinking and overconsumption, but increased violence, vandalism, trash, noise, and major crime including rapes and murder.

235 Anytime I do see someone who has over-consumed alcohol it is a college Nov 16, 2012 9:20 AM student at a college bar.

236 Alcohol consumption isn't confined to bars that operate late. If you close the bars Nov 16, 2012 8:31 AM they will over crowd all bars and find other ways to drink.

237 It's a college Nov 15, 2012 10:16 PM

238 Pearl street Nov 15, 2012 9:58 PM

239 The hordes of derelict types that roam the streets. Nov 15, 2012 9:14 PM

240 I don't know. However, it does seem as if the major problem drinking occurs at Nov 15, 2012 7:42 PM house parties.

241 Under age drinkers Nov 15, 2012 7:21 PM

242 I went out a lot more as a student, but now that I have graduated I hardly go out Nov 15, 2012 6:28 PM anymore, but when I did, I found that most students drink at home because of the current economic situation, and then go out for the night. This means some students load up on alcohol in an effort to save money at the bars or wherever else they may be consuming. I think that more restrictions will only lead students to consume more at home before they go out, and make the problem worse. I know because personally that's what I would do and I'm not even necessarily constricted monetary wise.

243 It's always cheaper to consume at home...It's personal responsibility to stop Nov 15, 2012 6:05 PM drinking there. Public places also have a responsibility not to over-serve too but it's still up to the individual.

244 In my experience as a broke college student, private house parties are where Nov 15, 2012 5:27 PM this kind of alcohol use is occurring. That being said, this kind of alcohol abuse is being committed by only a small percentage of young (mostly underage) individuals.

245 Parties on the hill in Fraternities or apartments of college students. Nov 15, 2012 4:48 PM

246 Once again, alcohol can be an issue, and over consuption is an issue Nov 15, 2012 4:38 PM everywhere in the world. But to try to limit it in a college town is crazy. Anyone with an issue should move to somewhere where there is no college. They are more suited for a serene surrounding in the mountains or Utah where there is less drinking.

247 Pearl St Mall and the Hill. It seems that bars located elsewhere will not over- Nov 15, 2012 4:36 PM serve.

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248 Where ever a person is who has decided to imbibe alcohol. Nov 15, 2012 4:13 PM

249 I live on the Hill and house parties are the primary problem. They are harder to Nov 15, 2012 3:25 PM regulate than drinking in restaurants and bars. House parties create disorderly behavior and noise and contribute to unsafe conditions in the neighborhood: violent behavior, vandalism, theft, rape. However, bars contribute to the problem insofar as drunk people walk back into the Hill neighborhood to their houses once the bars close.

250 Boulder does not encourage a safe and cililized city for our young people, Nov 15, 2012 3:21 PM alcohol is easily obtained as evidenced by behavior of young adults, residences and bars alike. Too many young people do not know how to handle alcohol, and binge drinking has become a sport. The CU campus houses freshmen, permitting much more stability and influence. Because the majority of students are housed in residential areas, and they exhibit all the behaviors listed in #6, above, (the question should permit checking of all!) the impact on many sections of the community of these miscreants is unacceptable and unmitigated by Boulder police. Maybe CU should be required to house more on campus property. Where my daughter went to college, only seniors with clean records lived off campus, still in campus owned housing, and any behavior with any behavior infraction lost that perk. Instead, Boulder has student slums now prebalent in several parts of the city.

251 People don't get belligerent at bars, the out of control drunks migrate from Nov 15, 2012 3:02 PM private residences to bars.

252 I'm not sure were the primary location of over consumption is taking place Nov 15, 2012 2:56 PM

253 Drinking here is the same as anywhere else especially in bars and restaurants Nov 15, 2012 2:50 PM where only legal drinking is permitted and should be allowed!

254 At least bars have a system of portion control. Nov 15, 2012 2:33 PM

255 50-50-- House Parties and a handful of Hill bars--K's China, The Goose, Half- Nov 15, 2012 2:26 PM Fast Subs

256 Frats Nov 15, 2012 2:05 PM

257 There is no area with over consumption of alcohol in Boulder. Nov 15, 2012 2:01 PM

258 The bars have an incentive to follow the law and largely do. Private house Nov 15, 2012 1:57 PM parties have peer pressure and a mentality of "we have it, so lets finish it". House parties often do not have a sober host like a bar does.

259 The more liquor outlets there are, the worse the problem. Advertising, specials, Nov 15, 2012 1:54 PM constant easy access, all add to the pressuures to consume

260 The more liquor outlets there are, the worse the problem. Advertising, specials, Nov 15, 2012 1:54 PM constant easy access, all add to the pressuures to consume

261 To number 6 above - the primary negative impact is one of endangering health. Nov 15, 2012 1:48 PM To answer 7 above - most over-consumption occurs at private residence/parties where there are not trained/certified servers to monitor age and consumption

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levels

262 Clamp down on house parties. Endorse noise and nuisance violations! The Hill Nov 15, 2012 1:43 PM neighborhood is getting trashed and undesirable.

263 the other issue is drunkenness and drug use among the homeless, who tend to Nov 15, 2012 1:41 PM congregate on the Mall and in front of the library. their issues have nothing to do with bars or restaurants, but only with some careless liquor stores. I think the vast majority of bars and liquor stores in the city are very careful about to whom they sell liquor.

264 If more places are closed or not allowed to operate, the problem will be entirely Nov 15, 2012 1:28 PM house parties. Right now, establishments make sure people don't drink too much. Which is better, a bartender that watches people or kegstands?

265 If there is an area for concern, it is house parties on the Hill. Nov 15, 2012 1:00 PM

266 There is over consumption in private residences, but in those cases, more often Nov 15, 2012 12:47 PM than not, the imbiber sleeps it off without getting in a vehicle to drive away from a bar. The worst impacts of over consumption occur when the patrons leave the bars. If they could sleep it off where they drink, there would be much less negative, unlawful and destructive behavior.

267 house parties and uncontrolled/regulated kegs and alcohol at private homes Nov 15, 2012 12:43 PM

268 The main problem is at house parties, bartenders tend to cut people off before Nov 15, 2012 12:40 PM they start causing problems.

269 House parties in the University Hill area are not controlled and because of the Nov 15, 2012 12:35 PM lack of enforcement of city codes (alcohol and noise) leads this to be the venue of choice for student drinkers, over and under 21 years of age. In my, and other neighbors' opinion, this over-rides all the effort and concern about regulating the licensed alcohol venues.

270 I was an undergrad at CU, and can tell you from personal experience that the Nov 15, 2012 12:34 PM house parties are the most dangerous, and unregulated way students drink. No bar on pearl st will pour 5 shots in a row for 1 person, but it happens all the time at house parties.

271 In 70's and 80's we could have 3.2 kegs in dorms. Now it's huge offence to drink Nov 15, 2012 12:01 PM on campus pushing kids to neighborhood parties. Then police over-enforce basic drinking with spider-web of MIP's, community service and expensive court costs, et al. Civil liberties issue that progressive boulder should be more lenient on. Good gracious, vote for president, fight/die in Afghan, but can't drink a beer? Easier to get LSD, Coke, X, pot than beer? Insanity.

272 Bars make their lving selling alcohol- there will pretty much be drunk people at Nov 15, 2012 11:41 AM bars in every city in the entire country- that is what happens.

273 I ellaborated more in the previous question. At house parties, everyone can drink Nov 15, 2012 11:38 AM - why would they even want to go to the bars and have to pay for alcohol and/or leave their underage friends behind?

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274 Over consumption happens with underage persons in private residences. Due to Nov 15, 2012 11:31 AM alcohol consumption being driven behind closed doors with the legal drinking age of 21.

275 I don't think bars are the problem. The house parties that go on in my Nov 15, 2012 11:31 AM neighborhood are out of control, and result in drunk students parading through the streets, smashing car windows, spray-painting graffiti, and doing other acts of vandalism.

276 House parties can get a little bit more out of control because there is nobody Nov 15, 2012 11:25 AM regulating them. Bars have bouncers and bartenders who ensure the safety of their guests.

277 House parties are unregulated. At least at a bar the bartender can REFUSE Nov 15, 2012 11:18 AM those whom they deem too drunk service. They also have bouncers and door staff for that reason as well.

278 Uni Hill and Pearl St Mall Nov 15, 2012 11:11 AM

279 Kegger parties and other such private events where there is no IDing of legal Nov 15, 2012 10:45 AM age and no monitoring of consumption are the biggest area's of concern.

280 bars have people to monitor drinking. liquor stores do not. Nov 15, 2012 10:44 AM

281 If you think bars are the main place of alcohol consumption, it just shows how Nov 15, 2012 10:20 AM removed you really are from student life.

282 I more people acting like fools/acting negatively at house parties than at bars Nov 15, 2012 10:11 AM

283 You asked I I thought it was a problem and I said no then every question after Nov 15, 2012 10:02 AM that asked about that over consumption. Kind I a skewed survey isn't it?

284 It's a college town, people are going to drink. Nov 15, 2012 9:56 AM

285 Private residences and on Campus. Have you every seen the students who Nov 15, 2012 9:54 AM stock up on LQ from any LQ store on a Friday or Saturday? Are you kidding me? Attacking business owners is not the solution.

286 This is primarily a CU Student problem not a resident problem generally. CU Nov 15, 2012 9:50 AM Students are 18+ not 21+. These kids mingle on campus, socialize and date. So a 21 year old boy dating a 19 year old girl will have to invite her to a house party if he wants to meet her informally and not "date" in the old fashioned way. To socialize they need to feel relaxed and comfortable and will drink to feel so..... at home they: 1) save money, 2) are able to include any/all ages and meet new people informally. 3) have cheap entertainment 4) Have private event vs. a school event. Perhaps the Frat and Sororities should be moved onto campus??? They deeply encourage drinking (from my experience). Landlords alone can not monitor or control "Illegal" behavior.. this should be the police. Perhaps a partnership could be made (ie: landlords give police permission to enter under circumstances?) Students should be held to whatever the law is like any other adult. They don't need to be treated like children but need clear lessons fast to learn what they can/can't do and they need them quick and fast before they end up in trouble later in life.

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287 Dorms. Nov 15, 2012 9:42 AM

288 House parties/ frat parties/ bars Nov 15, 2012 9:14 AM

289 I don't think you can narrow it down to specific locations, it is up to individuals to Nov 15, 2012 8:57 AM take responsiblity for their actions, along with vendors following responsible service practice(TIPS)

290 There is no evidence of overconsumption of alcohol in Boulder - on The Hill or Nov 15, 2012 8:44 AM anywhere else.

291 21+ rarely over-consume when visiting bars. Its expensive and bars do a good Nov 15, 2012 7:14 AM job regulating who should be purchasing alcohol and who shouldn't.

292 People drink more alcohol and parents in this community teach and support their Nov 15, 2012 6:34 AM children to drink alcohol at home. The pattern of over consumption of alcohol starts early and the lack of responsibility is the problem.

293 Parking in Residential area - west of 9th street - 2 am noise and disorderly Nov 15, 2012 4:23 AM conduct

294 Drinking a single beer at the top of a hike is fun, and actually, not very Nov 15, 2012 1:53 AM dangerous. The most dangerous is binge drinking in private residences when no one is there to witness a blackout

295 There is a brief period of unrulyness when all bars close at the same time. Nov 14, 2012 11:02 PM House parties/campus/other end at variable times so impact is more dispersed.

296 Like I said I don't believe their is a ton of over consumption of alcohol. I think Nov 14, 2012 10:53 PM most of the time people drink too much BEFORE they go out at their OWN home that by the time they go out, they are just a mess. I don't think any bar can be held responsible for that, especially when they monitor as best as they can when someone has had too much to drink and either kick them out, or stop serving them.

297 The Hill. The noise, the drunks, the FACT that their is so much crime on the hill - Nov 14, 2012 10:01 PM it is not a safe place to be walking alone at night - especially for women. Underage drinking is also a problem.

298 alcohol consumption can be better controlled in a bar or restaurant than in a Nov 14, 2012 9:31 PM private home. no one carding or monitoring alcohol consumption in a private home. bars and restaurants do a much better job of regulating this.

299 Businesses employ people to prevent patrons from over consuming and harming Nov 14, 2012 9:20 PM themselves or others.

300 I feel it is mostly the unsupervised that over-consume. This includes a few Nov 14, 2012 9:07 PM irresponsible bar owners, and house/ frat parties that don't hire security or care about safety and age restrictions

301 I live on the Hill, house parties are a problem. Nov 14, 2012 8:57 PM

302 Fraternities Nov 14, 2012 8:54 PM

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303 It is the unsupervised house parties that cause the problem of over consumption Nov 14, 2012 8:46 PM not responsible business owners and management.

304 Unregulated, unsupervised parties are going to have the highest over Nov 14, 2012 8:46 PM consumption. As well, underage drinking, which probably constitutes a higher over consumption demographic.

305 I have never seen a problem. I have seen Meth addicts on the streets around Nov 14, 2012 8:37 PM the Hill but I have never seen anyone drunk. It's a college town, there will always be drinking among students, but I doubt most of the overdrinking occurs in a restaurant. I remember college and the drinking I saw happened in frat houses.

306 drinking seemed more under control when there were bars open on the hill. Now Nov 14, 2012 8:04 PM kids just run amuck! People who drink 'too much' generally get cut-off at a bar, but not at a party.

307 House parties are more of a problem than alcohol serving businesses. There is Nov 14, 2012 7:54 PM no bartender limiting you--or cutting you off. The alcohol is abundant and flowing and that's where I've seen disaster and dangerous situations, not bars.

308 The majority of students are not of legal age, therefore bars are not the most Nov 14, 2012 7:46 PM common drinking place amongst us.

309 Its hard to binge drink at a bar. Nov 14, 2012 7:46 PM

310 Improperly formatted question. It's biased toward convincing people to assume Nov 14, 2012 7:29 PM bars are the same as restaurants. Bars are the problem, NOT The Sink, Pickled Lemon, and places that serve great food and to complement their phenomenal cuisines.

311 From what I remeber as a student the hill can be very hectic. Nov 14, 2012 7:22 PM

312 The rowdy behavior occurs primarily from private parties, not restaurants and Nov 14, 2012 7:09 PM bars. It is fueled by alienation and often other drugs than alcohol. The bars generally enforce reasonable and "contained" behavior. The best solution would be to lower the allowed drinking age within commercial establishments.

313 It is definitely in private parties. That is where the city should crack down. Nov 14, 2012 7:08 PM Additionally, private parties contribute to most of the problems listed above (unclean neighborhoods, noise)

314 Drinking at businesses is expensive and not the primary way to drink if you are Nov 14, 2012 7:08 PM looking to get wasted.

315 Current laws (and these proposed laws) encourage people to travel to engage in Nov 14, 2012 7:06 PM social interaction. Then drive back. That is a terrible idea. You have a young adult population in this area. It drives the city. After decades of cracking down, Get over it.

316 Harassing the bars drives people to house parties, which are worse. Nov 14, 2012 6:53 PM

317 From my observation as a former undergraduate student at CU, the bars and Nov 14, 2012 6:35 PM restaurants help control the consumption of alcohol. The cost of consuming alcohol in a restaurant forces the patron to minimize consumption.

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318 I would say house parties because the people there are typically underage and Nov 14, 2012 6:25 PM are drinking specifically to get as drunk as possible.

319 Trash and over consumption can occur at private house parties, not bars and Nov 14, 2012 6:21 PM establishments.

320 If you spend a weekend night on the Hill (or even a Thursday!) you will hear Nov 14, 2012 6:17 PM house parties on every street and see freshmen and sophomores walking around like drunk zombies. I keep hearing that the bars on the Hill are the problem, but I think the Hill's real problem drinking occurs at house parties, where underage kids can drink with their 21+ friends who didn't go to the bars.

321 There is not a real problem with over consumption. It is a manufactured issue Nov 14, 2012 6:07 PM being lobbied by a small group of people with very narrowly tailored interests.

322 Bars aren't the problem Nov 14, 2012 6:04 PM

323 Where there is alcohol, those who wish to do so will over consume. In fact, Nov 14, 2012 5:58 PM restricting trained employees from their ability to recognize when people are too drunk and to then intervene would possibly exacerbate alcohol related incidences.

324 House parties, plus geographic areas with large concentration of bars - e.g. Nov 14, 2012 5:49 PM Pearl Street and the Hill

325 Places where the homeless congregate are high on the list. The campus is only Nov 14, 2012 5:47 PM a problem during tailgating before/after football games.

326 Very rarely have I seen someone black out drunk at the bars, but house parties? Nov 14, 2012 5:46 PM All the time. Look at where deaths occur - house parties hosted by minors, not adults drinking responsibly.

327 House parties can definitely lead to problems. However, I don't believe that Nov 14, 2012 5:44 PM hiring more police officers to patrol the Hill will have much of an effect on the amount of drinking per capita. There are already a tremendous amount of officers patrolling the Hill (as there has been for years) and, although they have cut down the amount of riots and many other nuisances, they have not cut down on the amount people drink. People just know that doing something stupid will likely lead to being arrested.

328 I don't see it around town much, but wouldn't be surprised if more over Nov 14, 2012 5:35 PM consumption was happening at college-related house parties. But that is just a guess, really.

329 Restrictions will only make this problem worse. Stop fucking around. Nov 14, 2012 5:29 PM

330 This is a loaded question. The lack of clarity around what you mean by "over Nov 14, 2012 5:26 PM consumption" will ultimately lead to a massively bias survey.

331 As a student who spends a lot of time both at house parties and at bars, I have Nov 14, 2012 5:14 PM seen significantly more binge drinking/overconsumption at house parties than I have elsewhere.

332 House parties and frat parties with freshmen students always is the primary Nov 14, 2012 5:12 PM

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location of over consumption. They do not know how to drink or handle themselves accordingly. The whole city should not be reprimanded for these few ignorant students.

333 Fraternities and house parties. Nov 14, 2012 5:12 PM

334 A lot of people rent houses to college students on otherwise quiet streets with Nov 14, 2012 5:08 PM single family homes containing small children. The parties that can result on ANY night of the week are obnoxious. I've encountered people pissing in the middle of the street in front of a house blasting music and loud talking/yelling, only a couple doors down my house in north Boulder. There are families with small children living all around me. Calling the cops is effective in the short-term, but they eventually always have more parties eventually.

335 The biggest dangers are freshmen on campus who drink in the dorms and drink Nov 14, 2012 5:07 PM too much

336 The bars seem to be more tame than house parties on The Hill. House parties Nov 14, 2012 5:02 PM are often binge drinking marathons created for the sole and express purpose of getting as many people as drunk as possible in the shortest amount of time. There should be more to a social life than a party, and more to a party than alcohol.

337 bars on pearl st Nov 14, 2012 4:58 PM

338 Frat and sorority houses Nov 14, 2012 4:56 PM

339 Pearl Street Nov 14, 2012 4:53 PM

340 Concentrating businesses serving alcohol in close proximity of one another Nov 14, 2012 4:45 PM allows for easier supervision by law enforcement. When house parties are allowed on the scale and in the numbers they are allowed in Boulder, no law enforcement is able to keep up with over consumption or underage consumption. They will become a real problem unless the focus shifts from businesses to house parties.

341 Most of the people being sent to the hospital are coming from house parties but Nov 14, 2012 4:42 PM more specifically from fraternity parties where the alcohol flows. More restrictions on the fraternities would be a better use of time in order to end excessive drinking.

342 house parties where there are kegs and constant drinking games/challenges. Nov 14, 2012 4:42 PM

343 Honestly, I am not quite sure about this one, but guess it's a bit of everything- I Nov 14, 2012 4:40 PM do know from having worked on the hill that drinking in homes and frat houses is a big thing, even yards- once again- in the middle of the day.

344 I believe that alcohol over consumption is concentrated among students who are Nov 14, 2012 4:37 PM not yet 21. Before being 21, students that obtain alcohol don't have someone else monitoring their drinking or someone serving them that will cut them off. There is also a belief of the need to pregame before going to house parties and then consuming more alcohol when at these parties. I believe that this is the basis of alcohol related problems in Boulder.

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345 sTUDE MOSTLY IN OFF CAMPUS STUDENT HOUSING Nov 14, 2012 4:33 PM

346 In restaurants, the licensee is required by law to monitor the amount of alcohol Nov 14, 2012 4:33 PM they are serving to a patron. In a house party there is NO monitoring at all.

347 There is no primary location. The city of Boulder has been taking strides towards Nov 14, 2012 4:32 PM cleaning up the cities image of a "party" city. One way is through the crack down on the fake identification in liquor stores, bars and restaurants etc. The regulation and no tolerance for fake identification is completely rational, however, to take away establishments on the that have and sell alcohol is completely unreasonable. As an adult of legal drinking age, I should be able to attend a concert at the Fox and buy a drink, or have a beer at dinner at the Sink and after those, I should be able to stop at the local liquor store before I catch a cab home. Reviewing the alcohol regulations is an unnecessary process for the City of Boulder. If an establishment comes to the hill and wishes to sell alcohol, they should have the right to do so as long as they comply with the existing regulations after the waiver of 1987. Moving establishments farther from the University Hill will not only upset residents and also impact local Boulder businesses negatively but most importantly, it will not solve the cities alleged problem of alcohol over-consumption.

348 The businesses I have been a patron at do a very good job at regulating Nov 14, 2012 4:26 PM consumption, house parties are where the unregulated binge drinking happens.

349 Campus and houses are the places where the most alcohol is consumed. The Nov 14, 2012 4:05 PM bars obviously have alcohol consumed but from personal experience, it is not nearly as much as house parties and in the dorms.

350 Fraternity houses Nov 14, 2012 3:55 PM

351 I believe that the primary location of over consumption of alcohol in Boulder is in Nov 14, 2012 3:52 PM places where alcohol consumption is not monitored, for example the dorms and the houses surrounding the university.

352 This is an important point. As someone who is almost in their 30s and goes out Nov 14, 2012 3:50 PM for drinks in Boulder, you never see the most inebriated in the bars. Instead, you seem them walking from house party to house part on the Hill. House parties are also where tons of underage drinking occurs - not the bars. Boulder is one of the most strict (in terms of ID'ing) towns I've lived in - and rightfully so.

353 Freshman are the main source. Nov 14, 2012 3:49 PM

354 Over consumption not a problem. Nov 14, 2012 3:38 PM

355 If it's not at a bar, it's a home, a friends home, camping, etc. Re-zoning would Nov 14, 2012 3:36 PM only hurt businesses, not the drinking habits of residents.

356 Over consumption of alcohol does not occur at specific businesses as the Nov 14, 2012 3:30 PM bartenders, door staff, and management at the businesses accept and maintain responsibility for their patrons and assure, under law, that their clientele consume reasonable alcohol consumption deemed by the standards established by Boulder, the establishment, and law enforcement. College students tend to over consume in private residences as there is no regulation and often obscene

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amounts of alcohol available to both of age and under age students.

357 Houses on the Hill, including frat houses and whatnot. People get drunk at bars, Nov 14, 2012 3:25 PM but the drunkest people I ever saw while in Boulder were at house parties.

358 I think that when most students over serve themselves in their own houses and Nov 14, 2012 3:22 PM those of age then go to businesses. It doesn't seem like anything that the businesses are directly responsible for.

359 I feel the most dangerous time of night is around 2am when the bars close and Nov 14, 2012 2:57 PM people are returning home.

360 Sororities and fraternities, or other mega-party locations. Private small house Nov 14, 2012 2:49 PM parties are not an issue.

361 tougher driving laws have people aware of over-consuming away from home Nov 14, 2012 2:40 PM

362 I don't think zoning will change anything. In my opinion, those who over Nov 14, 2012 2:40 PM consume do so in private locations that would not be affected by zoning.

363 House parties are not as well monitored as bars or other more public locations, Nov 14, 2012 2:37 PM and the biggest issue I've seen at parties is how people get home. Most simply stay the night, or designate a driver, but those who choose to drive drunk should face extremely still (and very visible) consequences

364 In my view as a former CU student and current employee in Boulder, most Nov 14, 2012 2:35 PM overconsumption takes place by college students at houses.

365 around muni building and in Central park Nov 14, 2012 2:32 PM

366 The Hill and surrounding neighborhoods Nov 14, 2012 2:23 PM

367 Having witnessed consumption at businesses as well as private residences, I Nov 14, 2012 2:16 PM think it is very clear that the latter yields more overconsumption. At bars and restaurants, patrons often behave in a manner commensurate with the public setting. However, at 'house parties', those same persons are often more conformable drinking to excess.

368 I don't see why Boulder is trying to strictly regulate alcohol consumption, it is a Nov 14, 2012 2:15 PM waste of police resources. It would be more useful to use city resources to reduce the amount of illegal hard drug use. It is easier for a Boulderite to find narcotics than it is to get alcohol.

369 Underage drinkers while at house parties are without a doubt where over- Nov 14, 2012 2:12 PM consumption of alcohol occurs.

370 The Hill (if any place) Nov 14, 2012 2:06 PM

371 I find there to be most over-consumption at Pearl Street bars on the weekends, Nov 14, 2012 2:06 PM very late at night.

372 Overconsumption overwhelmingly occurs at private parties not licensed Nov 14, 2012 2:04 PM establishments.

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373 Underage drinkers tend to binge drink more frequently than legal-aged drinkers. Nov 14, 2012 2:03 PM These students will purchase alcohol (or have others do it for them) and then drink at house parties where they feel less likely to get caught.

374 People drink everywhere in boulder, and more rules wont stop this. Nov 14, 2012 1:28 PM

375 If any location has over consumption of alcohol, it is going to be house parties Nov 14, 2012 1:26 PM where there is no regulation or monitoring of alcohol consumption. At least at other locations there are staff who can monitor a person's intake of alcohol.

376 Over consumption happens at house parties and private establishments. Not at Nov 14, 2012 1:18 PM local restaurants and bars.

377 At Private residences related to University and dorms Nov 14, 2012 1:17 PM

378 The parties at private houses and sorority/fraternity houses are absolutely the Nov 14, 2012 1:16 PM larger issue. Speaking from experience.

379 I don't think there is a problem, there might be over consumption in house Nov 14, 2012 1:10 PM parties.

380 It's the underage students and frat parties that cause the most problems. A more Nov 14, 2012 1:01 PM realistic solution is to lower the drinking age in Boulder so these kids don't feel compelled to over drink.

381 People usually only get dangerously drunk at house parties Nov 14, 2012 12:54 PM

382 Greek Fraternity parties in particular Nov 14, 2012 12:50 PM

383 I believe it is younger people. Under the age of 21 who drink too much Nov 14, 2012 12:49 PM

384 It's a college town. Deal with it. Nov 14, 2012 12:47 PM

385 Anyplace that's within walking distance from the University. Nov 14, 2012 12:44 PM

386 We have more than adequate rules and regulations now - let's enforce them Nov 14, 2012 12:41 PM before creating new ones with a strong potential for adverse unintended consequences.

387 Underclassmen who engage in heavy binge drinking in their dorms prior to Nov 14, 2012 12:38 PM heading to The Hill make up the majority of overly-intoxicated individuals on The Hill. Fact.

388 Are non-Boulder resident answers given the same priority? How could they Nov 14, 2012 12:34 PM possibly know anything about this question?

389 The hill/frats Nov 14, 2012 12:28 PM

390 Most everywhere else, drinking is regulated. And if someone is too drunk at a Nov 14, 2012 12:16 PM bar, there's someone who is going to notice. At a house party, neither is true.

391 But no necessarily just house parties Nov 14, 2012 12:12 PM

392 Limiting consumption at specific businesses will not fix the problem, as it will still Nov 14, 2012 12:07 PM

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occur at private residences. Again this is a college community, it will happen regardless.

393 As a former CU student and highly influential leader of the greek community I Nov 14, 2012 12:02 PM can tell you that problems exist when students are regulated. I know it seems crazy to contemplate but students are safer in bars then they are an house parties. House parties far outnumber bars, police can't check all house parties or even cover enough of them to make a real difference. Bar owners, and staff help mitigate problems that normal students drinking on there own wouldn't be concerned about. You need better enforcement of laws and regulations that are currently in place, dont hurt business that currently rely on that revenue.

394 Private residences are the places where overconsumption really becomes an Nov 14, 2012 11:56 AM issue. In bars and restaurants, employees are there to make sure customers are not over served.

395 Like I stated earlier, students will consume the majority of their hard liquor at Nov 14, 2012 11:55 AM their residence before going out. They already do this for the reason of saving money. It is no secret that compared to buying a bottle of liquor, buying a single serving of liquor in a bar is grossly overpriced. If they are not even allowed to buy their over priced drinks, they will almost certainly over-consume hard liquor before venturing out to the bars. This isn't rocket science. Students love to drink, and they will find a way to do so. The only impact prohibiting hard liquor sales will have is on local business.

396 People, children, who don't know when enough is enough. Nov 14, 2012 11:52 AM

397 There just isn't over consumption. Look back in your life. Look back in history. Nov 14, 2012 11:48 AM We drink less now than any other time in history

398 The bars/restaurants have specific rules they must follow that are set by the Nov 14, 2012 11:44 AM State concerning over serving. If they break the rules, they have legal troubles. Rather than punishing all of the restaurants and bars by changing the zoning, the more effective rout would be to punish the individual bars/restarants.

399 Over consumption is a personal choice. Instead of taking away the sovereignty Nov 14, 2012 11:43 AM of the individual, why not listen and cooperate with your different constituents? Boulder portrays itself as an open-minded society, but in my four years living here all I've seen is restrictions imposed by the government on its citizens, in particular, the ones that help drive this economy (Students).

400 Fraternity parties, college dorms, house parties; places where people are Nov 14, 2012 11:40 AM underage, have to hide their drinking and usually end up binge drinking and consuming too much.

401 All of the above have over consumption but private residences are the primary Nov 14, 2012 11:38 AM dangerous location. At least at restaurants and bars there are bartenders, bouncers, and police near by to manage the effects or limit the over consumption before deadly levels are reached.

402 Businesses, such as restaurants and bars, that serve alcohol are not where the Nov 14, 2012 11:36 AM majority of problematic alcohol consumption takes place.

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403 I find that people that are in bars tend to moderate over the kids who drink Nov 14, 2012 11:34 AM (usually underage) at a houseparty. Those are the people that we have problems with.

404 You think the hill has over-consumption??? Ever take a stroll down Pearl Street Nov 14, 2012 11:33 AM on the weekends? Just because Pearl street looks all nice and the hill looks shitty doesn't mean to come after the hill. The bars on the hill are WAY less mainstream than the bars on Pearl. It's ridiculous that this is even up for debate.

405 PEARL STREET Nov 14, 2012 11:31 AM

406 It is not a problem in businesses. It is a problem in private residences & other Nov 14, 2012 11:31 AM areas where kids under 21 are binge drinking.

407 Drinks at bars are expensive. Few people (students especially) can afford to get Nov 14, 2012 11:29 AM irresponsibly drunk at a bar, so they pre-game at home to save money.

408 The concern I have with alcohol consumption is due to house parties. At a house Nov 14, 2012 11:20 AM party there are generally very few, if any, sober attendees. At a bar it is a safer environment to consume because bar tenders and employees are keeping an eye on everyone.

409 frats are what should be cracked down on. not bars. Nov 14, 2012 11:19 AM

410 dorms! give us safe and open places in public to drink. The police state formed Nov 14, 2012 11:18 AM in Boulder makes kids afraid to drink and cause them to binge drink in their dorms.

411 There are laws to ensure people aren't over-served. If you think there is a Nov 14, 2012 11:17 AM problem, hold the owners of those businesses accountable. Don't punish them by hurting their business other ways.

412 I see lots of issues with it in certain park areas in Boulder as well (specifically Nov 14, 2012 10:12 AM Scott Carpenter Park).

413 This is such a loaded question. Who the hell wrote this survey? Why doesn't it Nov 14, 2012 9:42 AM just say: The city council believes house parties, CU, and specific bars, are the cause of all the over consumption in Boulder. Please check A) if you agree B) if you agree.

414 I haven't spent time on the CU campus but I don't see it as a problem elsewhere. Nov 14, 2012 9:17 AM

415 But this should be NO surprise. Nov 14, 2012 9:08 AM

416 I am a police officer and had, until recently, been assigned to the University Hill. Nov 14, 2012 8:13 AM House parties are definitely the source of most of the overconsumption. Bars are a negligible impact on this problem. This is especially true with regard to the under 21 crowd.

417 Over consumption occurs wherever the individuals that binge-drink happen to Nov 14, 2012 8:06 AM be. If bars or liquor stores are closed, they will drink at home/parties/public places.

418 See comment above. No regulations in a house party is the issue. The students Nov 14, 2012 7:27 AM

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get "primed" prior to heading out to the bars or house party. There is no regulations and hence a potential problem

419 How could we possibly know this? We are not in every home and don't see who Nov 14, 2012 7:06 AM is drinking too much.

420 The college students are the ones who tend to overindulge. Most of the most Nov 14, 2012 5:15 AM serious incidents occur at house parties and from what I have read one or two specific bars/restaurants.

421 Bars. Nov 14, 2012 12:05 AM

422 Sorority/Fraternity houses included Nov 13, 2012 11:46 PM

423 Seems like the most over-drinking usually happens at private parties on the hill. Nov 13, 2012 10:45 PM That's the best place for it. At least they're in crawling distance of home.

424 in my experience, private residences account for quite a bit of excessive Nov 13, 2012 10:01 PM drinking. some hill and downtown bars are more moderate.

425 Transient camps along the creek path/in parks/in front of the library. Nov 13, 2012 8:55 PM

426 My answer is a guess. I am not sure of the primary location of overconsumption. Nov 13, 2012 8:25 PM However, those who sell alcohol probably know the answer to this.

427 Factors like money, amount and location make it harder to drink more than at a Nov 13, 2012 8:07 PM house party where booze is cheaper, more plentiful and easier to consume in larger quantities. Going after bars and the proposals the city is considering are anti-business,will solve nothing, make people angrier and get city council removed from office next election.

428 Consumption is no different than anywhere else in the Western world. In fact, I Nov 13, 2012 7:48 PM feel safer in Boulder than any other place I've lived in (Chicago, DC, Michigan, abroad, etc.)

429 See my above comment. Nov 13, 2012 7:42 PM

430 I think a major problem is that students who live on University Hill travel to Pearl Nov 13, 2012 7:24 PM Street bars to drink and then walk or possibly drive back to University Hill intoxicated. I don't think students go to University Hill establishments to drink excessively, but usually to meet up with friends before going to either a house party or to Pearl Street. I believen that they drink more when they go to Pearl Street.

431 Bars and house parties often on the hill but not limited to the hill area. Nov 13, 2012 6:03 PM

432 I live on The Hill. I think efforts to cut down on drinking by increasing the Nov 13, 2012 5:30 PM restrictions on liquor licensing and establishments that serve liquor is a waste of time. No one drinks 7 beers at a bar and it's already illegal to serve people who are visibly drunk. But it happens at house parties all the time.

433 University Hill Nov 13, 2012 5:28 PM

434 Serious overconsumption happens in the dorms. Look at police records of how Nov 13, 2012 5:15 PM

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often an ambulance is called to campus for alcohol poisoning rather than homes. It is not the drinking that creates a negative impact on the community, but the people themselves. Adding regulations will change nothing.

435 As stated, I do not believe overconsumption is a problem in Boulder. This is a Nov 13, 2012 5:14 PM leading question and your statistical analysts should throw it out if this survey is to be taken seriously.

436 House parties have grown on the Hill in direct proportion to the prohibition of Nov 13, 2012 5:13 PM regulated drinking on the Hill.

437 College kids, nothing new and it exists in every college town. Nov 13, 2012 5:10 PM

438 Just like in most cities our size and larger. Nov 13, 2012 5:04 PM

439 being a non specific "non-problem" it stands to reason it would be hard to say Nov 13, 2012 4:55 PM where it happens most. Sometimes all of the above or most of the time none of the above.

440 Again -- people over consume everywhere. This question completely depends Nov 13, 2012 4:45 PM on the activities someone does also. If you live in the dorms, you're going to say people drink to much in the dorms. If you go to the bars every weekend you're going to think people drink mainly in the bars. Do you guys think about and or review these questions?

441 Bar's can police without your laws. Nov 13, 2012 4:44 PM

442 Bars are a relatively safe place since the bouncers and staff often intervene Nov 13, 2012 4:36 PM when excessive drinking occurs. Compared to a house party, fraternity, etc.

443 There are a few establishments who over serve and there are regulations that Nov 13, 2012 4:34 PM can address this that exist. use them!

444 Private residences of johnny-come-lately richpiggie NIMBY elistists Nov 13, 2012 4:21 PM

445 More regulations on a business is not going to change what goes on at a house Nov 13, 2012 4:00 PM party.

446 Residences and fraternity and sorority houses on the Hill are the main source of Nov 13, 2012 3:54 PM drinking-related issues for me as a Boulder resident and business founder.

447 Loaded question(no pun intended). Nov 13, 2012 3:44 PM

448 The Hill or Downtown (Pearl & Walnut) Nov 13, 2012 3:40 PM

449 again, more regulations will not change anything. In fact the current regulations Nov 13, 2012 3:32 PM and enforcement encourage excess drinking because kids pound the shooters before they go out to avoid getting caught

450 Especially concentrated in the University Hill area. Nov 13, 2012 3:26 PM

451 boulder creek path, city parks, sidewalks and allys by homeless Nov 13, 2012 3:23 PM

452 I think the Homeless that sit by Boulder High, Martin Park, etc. that consume in Nov 13, 2012 3:23 PM

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public and are disorderly are the issue.

453 I haven't experienced many problems around businesses. Nov 13, 2012 3:15 PM

454 It is happening in parked cars, public parks, bars, houses, you name it. Nov 13, 2012 3:08 PM However, the preponderance and proliferation of sanctioned alcohol outlets, in the form of bars, liquor stores and advertising is sending the wrong message about what we want our youth to be about.

455 Hard to nail down since the homeless are such a transient bunch. Nov 13, 2012 3:07 PM

456 While patrons at bars are usually all drinking, the bouncers and security do a Nov 13, 2012 2:58 PM great job at monitoring for age and excessive intoxication. In regards to private residences, it is my experience that in light of deaths related to alcohol, more and more people are being conscious of their own drinking, and that of their peers. It has been over 2 years since I have witnessed a dangerous case of alcohol consumption and I think that students are working to drink more responsibly.

457 Private residences as well. Nov 13, 2012 2:57 PM

458 After 9 or 10pm, most of the kitchens close at restaurants and bars so people Nov 13, 2012 2:54 PM continue to drink heavily till 2am and they don't eat anything. Food needs to be more available all over town so these kids can absorb some of the alcohol in their stomachs.

459 Near the Bandshell by the homeless alcoholics. Also the Hill. Nov 13, 2012 2:53 PM

460 Young people prohibited from drinking at bars will just drink more at home and Nov 13, 2012 2:40 PM still go out.

461 Overconsumption does occur at bars but it's less likely to occur than at private Nov 13, 2012 2:38 PM residences because at a bar you still have to be concerned about how you are getting home. There's less of a concern if you are partying at another house so often people will drink more. Not to mention bars can be expensive whereas alcohol at houses are free.

462 By virtue of the regulations currently in place, alcohol consumption is more tightly Nov 13, 2012 2:29 PM regulated at businesses opposed to private residences. Enforcement of alcohol consumption at private residences is limited to law enforcement - typically after excessive consumption has already become a problem. Bars, restaurants, and liquor stores have the discretion to refuse a patron service. If business-related consumption is a problem, the best impacts can be made by training of the employees to recognize high-risk customers. While binge drinking can certainly be observed at all age groups above the linking drinking age, there is usually a larger percentage of under 21 year olds that engage in overconsumption behaviors. Part of this has to do with limited prior drinking experience, social pressure to conform to a perceived norm, and a sense of freedom and/or lack of responsibility/accountability.

463 Overconsumption is everywhere - on campus (dorms), in house/apts where Nov 13, 2012 2:25 PM college students reside, and in the bars they frequent.

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464 I dont blame the kids so much as the landlords who allow these properties to Nov 13, 2012 2:22 PM deteriorate quite badly. Then the derelict state of the house encourages wild rowdy drunken behavior. In a vicious circle, where some houses become notorious for out-of-control parties.

465 The highest incidences of what some refer to as alcohol "over" consumption Nov 13, 2012 2:22 PM happens at high school and college house parties....and it has been the same way since the 60's...and it's replicated in nearly every college across the world. The incidents are simply being reported by peers more often due to increased education about the dangers of alcohol (good thing!), increased police patrol (arguably a good thing), and hyper-concerned citizens.

466 I feel it is simplistic to blame the bars,they will always find a way to get alcohol.I Nov 13, 2012 2:18 PM feel their upbringing is the real cause .Don't punish the places that sell it,punish the people who binge drink or put them in programs.

467 Fraternity and sorority houses Nov 13, 2012 2:18 PM

468 House parties - but not just college house parties. Nov 13, 2012 2:12 PM

469 the winos by the creek path are the worst of them all. i've seen them buying Nov 13, 2012 2:02 PM booze for underage kids right in the parking lot of liquor mart.

470 In the streets surrounding the Hill commercial district Nov 13, 2012 1:57 PM

471 Two hill bars--K's China and the Goose seem to be the worst offenders. While Nov 13, 2012 1:54 PM house parties generally quiet down after a noise complaint, these two bars seem to have built a business model out of blasting noise on their outdoor patios. I can frequently here them from most of western CU campus--frequently as far away as Norlin library.

472 I would think that those who do over consume are those who stay at home or at Nov 13, 2012 1:48 PM a party in a private residence.

473 K's China and the Hill area are the worst. I have seen girls get druged, drink Nov 13, 2012 1:44 PM WAY too much, and generally act out of control and the staff at K's encourages this behavior. I have witnessed too many girls walking home alone in the middle of the night in a blackout. It's tragic that we have to read about them being assaulted so often. The culture needs to change.

474 Everything on The Hill. Nov 13, 2012 1:41 PM

475 The drunk drivers causing accidents aren't young kids. The groups of individuals Nov 13, 2012 1:26 PM yelling and stumbling through neighborhoods is the issue. So, have more police driving around. Problem Solved.

476 You have to address all of these things to create a solution. One of the reasons Nov 13, 2012 1:24 PM you have house parties is because Boulder is very much a 21 and up kind of place.

477 I believe that if students don't go to the bars to consume alcohol, they consume Nov 13, 2012 1:23 PM at home or other house parties. I believe bars are the least of the worries of overconsumption, since most young people drink before going to the bars.

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478 Most of the actual problems resulting from overconsumption happen at house Nov 13, 2012 1:13 PM parties, not bars or other businesses.

479 Student residences around the University. Nov 13, 2012 1:11 PM

480 Alot of drinking goes on in Boulder; however, only a small percentage of the Nov 13, 2012 1:10 PM drinking results in over consumption.

481 Around the library and on boulder creek trail. Nov 13, 2012 1:01 PM

482 I do not know alcohol statistics- this is a guess. Nov 13, 2012 12:48 PM

483 House parties on the "hill" area of Boulder. These parties largely supply alcohol Nov 13, 2012 12:45 PM to under aged students.

484 Locations that have a liquor store available and a drinking area available (i.e. Nov 13, 2012 12:31 PM parks, benches, closed businesses...). I don not believe that the student areas of the hill are problem areas that need code changes just more enforcement and possibly stiffer consequences.

485 please do not drive more partying to the neighborhoods. Nov 13, 2012 12:31 PM

486 University Hill and Pearl St Mall Nov 13, 2012 12:30 PM

487 Central Park, Bandshell, Pearl Street mall Nov 13, 2012 12:19 PM

488 Houses are not regulated as well as restaurants/bars. Nov 13, 2012 12:10 PM

489 Again, I would say that the primary location is the Hill, but the distinction between Nov 13, 2012 12:06 PM the Hill and the Pearl Street Mall is porous, with students ritually making the trek back and forth from the Hill to "the bars" on and around the Mall. In addition, the University encourages over consumption on "game days" with its sanctioned "tail-gate" parties for "fans."

490 Closing or preventing legitimate establishments from serving booze is the main Nov 13, 2012 12:02 PM issue here. Especially on the Hill. That merely pushes the drinking into private residences, with the associated issues.

491 university area Nov 13, 2012 11:58 AM

492 It is not the bars, it is the house parties that get out of hand and cause the Nov 13, 2012 11:53 AM issues. Bars are already regulated and the owners/staff have taken great strides to curb abuse. The RHG is a wonderful example.

493 Vagrants around liquor stores and hanging out on bikepaths and in parks is Nov 13, 2012 11:51 AM worst.

494 Again, to reiterate my previous statement - where there is demand - there is Nov 13, 2012 11:28 AM supply. More regulations will not change a population that 'believes' that it has the right/privilege/ability to drink as much as it wants. If you want to keep drinking to a minimum, you have to convince the populus that consuming is unhealthy, not unlawful. (have you ever seen the movie "Inception"? - same premise)

495 Outdoor parks, walking paths, city buses - all become unsafe when we have Nov 13, 2012 11:17 AM

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people who are in black-outs and either commit violence or have violence done to them because they are so out of it that they don't know what's going on EXAMPLE - women walking home alone at 2 am!!

496 More often on Uni Hill and Downtown. Nov 13, 2012 11:14 AM

497 Mostly just at bars and house parties. Nov 13, 2012 11:08 AM

498 I think it is a bigger problem for Hill neighborhoods. Nov 13, 2012 11:03 AM

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1 I assume there are problems with noise, possibly safety, and other effects like Nov 30, 2012 12:12 PM there are in any college town in the areas where most students/underage drinkers live.

2 I feel that the over 21 crowd does a pretty good job on having responsible fun. Nov 30, 2012 11:19 AM

3 The hill needs to be dry. Nov 30, 2012 7:20 AM

4 Private residences everywhere. Nov 29, 2012 11:28 PM

5 You can't change the people by hurting these businesses. Nov 29, 2012 11:27 PM

6 not really anywhere Nov 29, 2012 9:32 PM

7 This is a ridiculous survey. Who wrote this? Nov 29, 2012 9:30 PM

8 In my experience, and from what I've observed, over-consumption occurs either Nov 29, 2012 8:49 PM at house parties, or downtown.

9 At least the bartenders get some kind of training in "how drunk is too drunk?" Nov 29, 2012 4:06 PM

10 Anywhere college kids live is the answer. There's very little to do in Boulder at Nov 29, 2012 3:57 PM night that doesn't involve alcohol.

11 Do not waste your time trying to regulate over consumption. Adults will consume Nov 29, 2012 3:35 PM alcohol to meet their desires. Education is a better use of time rather than regulation.

12 Clearly, most of the drinking is concentrated where the young people are. The Nov 29, 2012 3:05 PM rest of the city should feel thankful that they voluntarily self-segregate. Enforcement should be higher AWAY from the hill, where residents should be able to enjoy their homes without rowdy and irresponsible 60-somethings and their raucous (or did I mean rancorous?) parties.

13 Again, individual people, not areas. Nov 29, 2012 2:56 PM

14 Again, this is a countrywide issue and happens not just with college students, but Nov 29, 2012 2:46 PM with older adults and younger students. If this ordinance goes forth, then you ave to worry the behavior will change in private residence, which is driving incidents and then an increase in DUIs and long-term consequences. There are other solutions and consequences to observe.

15 I live just east of campus (off of 28 frontage road) and don't have any issues in Nov 28, 2012 7:21 PM my area.

16 As I stated above... overconsumption of alcohol is everywhere and usually gets Nov 28, 2012 7:16 PM over exagerated.

17 If there is a "problem" it is that little kids do not understand how to drink but it Nov 28, 2012 4:21 PM doesn't harm Boulder.

18 some residential areas just south of CU campus Nov 27, 2012 9:04 PM

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19 And also the Hill residential areas and Main Campus. Nov 27, 2012 8:42 PM

20 wrong buttons for question Nov 27, 2012 8:31 PM

21 The consumption levels in Boulder are no greater than any college town in the Nov 27, 2012 5:39 PM US.

22 If it is a problem it is systemic Nov 26, 2012 8:37 PM

23 I don't believe there is a "concentration" - the concentration of drinking in this city Nov 26, 2012 7:16 PM is proportionate to the concentration of the demographic most likely to drink. Just like every city nationwide. If you really want to lower college-age drinking we should not punish our business, but rather reward student populations and groups who choose not to make drinking a center-post of their educational experience.

24 As above, I do not believe that licensed businesses are responsible for over- Nov 26, 2012 5:16 PM serving or allowing over-consumption of alcohol. Local businesses should not be targets to blame for irresponsible, unsafe behavior by minors.

25 In both the University Hill commercial and residential areas Nov 26, 2012 3:58 PM

26 House parties, house parties, house parties. Nov 26, 2012 3:27 PM

27 Friday and Saturday night on Pearl? I really dont know. Nov 26, 2012 1:08 PM

28 I don't know of a specific area. Nov 26, 2012 12:38 PM

29 Boulder needs to crack down on homeless people drinking and wasting their life. Nov 26, 2012 10:51 AM

30 There might be a problem with overconsumption but the negative impacts are so Nov 26, 2012 10:20 AM negligible it isn't even funny.

31 I see most problem drinking among the homeless/transients on the creek paths, Nov 26, 2012 8:48 AM an in underpasses. One place frequently a problem is the underpass by Baseline and 36. three others are the "meeting place" which has been overrun by transients drinking 24/7,Central Park and the lawn area between the Library and the City building at Canyon and Broadway...this area is a disgrace to the face of the city as many tourists must confront these people when simply trying to get between the Boulder creek area and Pearl street.

32 The hill, the neighborhoods off of grove, and sometimes Pearl street. Nov 26, 2012 4:04 AM

33 This whole survey is incredibly biased. I have to answer they way I did because Nov 25, 2012 9:18 PM to answer otherwise would be to ignore the real problem. I am not a current business owner of an alcohol-selling establishment, but I was in the past. I am now involved in another Boulder-based business that aims to support other businesses. One of the biggest reasons for selling my restaurant was to stop having to fight the city and the vocal minorities of neighborhood groups that were doing everything in their power to make running a business difficult - the amount of intervention and interference by the city is ridiculous. Businesses are the lifeblood of any city and greatly contribute to the tax revenue. Please stop treating them like they are the enemy and learn to work with them. University

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Hill will be singled out as a source of the problem, while Pearl St remains as the golden child, but establishments on The Hill are no more the reason for this perceived problem than elsewhere other than the fact that more young people live there than in the rest of Boulder. One of the great things about Boulder is the University, but we want to ignore the fact that 18-25 year olds experiencing their first taste of freedom need a place to live if that University is to continue to be great. With that new-found freedom will come alcohol and staying up late. Instead of closing down businesses early and pushing these kids back into the neighborhood to disrupt other residents, we should encourage establishments that can serve them alcohol (those of legal age, obviously) and monitor their drinking to prevent them from becoming so inebriated that they are a danger to themselves and others (which routinely happens at house parties). The real responsibility falls on parents to treat sound values, and even more importantly the University who are essentially surrogate parents for these kids taking their first steps into adulthood. Even the best kids from the most well-intentioned families will slip and fall from time to time. The way to help them is to educate them while giving them a safe environment to experience this new freedom. Sorry, but anyone who moved to University Hill in the past 100, and at least 50, years can’t really complain about the impact of students – it’s like complaining about jet noise after moving next to the airport. Students can’t be allowed to break the law, that’s the role of the police to enforce, but to punish our businesses by forcing them to close early or limiting free enterprise in an already depressed economy and particularly on University Hill is definitely not the answer to any perceived issues with the over-consumption of alcohol.

34 Downtown...survey wont let me choose both Nov 25, 2012 9:14 PM

35 Where is north boulder in this survey? This is incredibly biased in trying to Nov 25, 2012 9:13 AM influence the survey takers opinions.

36 This includes any area where there is student housing, like the neighborhoods Nov 24, 2012 3:40 AM north of campus and directly east.

37 I think that any business owner that is not operating under their liquor license Nov 23, 2012 4:11 PM responsibly should be punished individually.

38 House parties all over the county are the biggest issue. Nov 23, 2012 10:29 AM

39 On campus or college kids in their rentals Nov 23, 2012 7:46 AM

40 Outside of Boulder Nov 22, 2012 12:19 AM

41 Residential areas on the hill, goss grove and Martin acres seem to have some Nov 21, 2012 5:01 PM impact.

42 The instructions say to choose all that apply but the software only allows one Nov 21, 2012 3:31 PM choice. The general Hill area is a focus.

43 Uni Hill commercial and residential and downtown. Nov 21, 2012 2:19 PM

44 Lower-cost neighborhoods where students host house parties Nov 21, 2012 1:34 PM

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45 I would say the City has used land use to place restaurants and bar in area that Nov 21, 2012 12:00 PM service as entrainment areas that area in located near but separate from single- family residential areas. It is improtant to have these area throughout the City to service different neighborhoods and keep Boulder walkable.

46 cant choose all, de Nov 21, 2012 11:07 AM

47 I think everywhere is pretty equal and there's probably no reason to go after one Nov 21, 2012 10:01 AM area.

48 Any of the neighborhoods in close proximity to campus seem to have the Nov 21, 2012 9:46 AM problem.

49 What people think is inconsequential. This question should have been answered Nov 20, 2012 11:19 PM long ago with simple math. Due diligence requires that you evaluate the last ten years of alcohol related crime to answer the following questions: (1) Who perpetrated the crime. (2) Where was it perpetrated. (3) Was over consumption the proximate cause of the crime. (4) If so, what contributed to the over consumption. (5) What was the priority level of this crime. (6) How to 3, 4 and 5 combine to gauge the community impact of trying to use policy to dictate culture.

50 Consumption of alcohol is only a problem if it is being done illegally. Students Nov 20, 2012 8:28 PM that are over 21 should be able to go to local bars on the hill and the businesses that reside there should not be discriminated against just because of location.

51 The commercial area of the hill is cleaned by the city frequently. Several Nov 20, 2012 7:05 PM establishments are open late to monitor their customers as well as students walking around. Plus there is a police station on the Hill. If there are over consumption issues, they happen in the residential area of the hill.

52 Because the hill is so densely packed it just seems it is worse there, I guarantee Nov 20, 2012 7:01 PM there are other kids in house parties, especially high school age, partying just as aggressively spread out across town.

53 I do not feel it is a problem. Nov 20, 2012 6:25 PM

54 Fraternity Houses Nov 20, 2012 6:04 PM

55 Drinking is more problematic where young people live, be it near the hill, pearl st. Nov 20, 2012 5:50 PM However, there are drug and alcohol problems all over the city.

56 If anything they need to consume more. Nov 20, 2012 5:44 PM

57 I feel that private residences all over Boulder are the places people become Nov 20, 2012 5:43 PM overly intoxicated. The most drunk I have seen people outside of residences has been on Pearl Street, not the Hill.

58 Alcohol use in boulder is no different than any where else Nov 20, 2012 5:41 PM

59 pearl street Nov 20, 2012 5:35 PM

60 the dorms Nov 20, 2012 5:27 PM

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61 The overall consumption of alcohol in Boulder is city wide, in every city block, Nov 20, 2012 5:10 PM every neighborhood.

62 I would pin city-wide over consumption more to days of the week than Nov 20, 2012 8:52 AM geographic areas. Also, the radio-button format of this question doesn't allow multiple-answers ("check all that apply" isn't technologically allowed).

63 All of the bars card and only serve people over 21. The problem is with the Nov 19, 2012 7:41 PM under 21 crowd that has no place legally to go.

64 Maybe at house parties where no one is taking the responsibility to monitor the Nov 19, 2012 6:10 PM consumption of their friends.

65 please see my description of Bacaro above. Nov 19, 2012 3:30 PM

66 Again, there are problem drinkers in every part of every city in America, and Nov 19, 2012 1:55 PM nannying the adults of Boulder is not going to make it the exception. It is only going to hurt businesses when people take their fun elsewhere.

67 There are no more bars left on the hill to drink at. The hill used to have over 10 Nov 19, 2012 12:56 PM bars, now there are 3. This is a drastic reduction and it hasn't curbed any drinking on the hill. It's just now done illegally at house party's

68 University Hill commercial and residential areas see the biggest impact Nov 18, 2012 6:48 PM

69 Most areas of town with high density of rental properties attact parties. These Nov 18, 2012 1:47 PM parties can be held at suprising times and lead to noise, damage and trash.

70 ONLY CERTAIN BARS HAVE ISSUES,EVERYONE NOWS WHERE THEY Nov 18, 2012 9:16 AM ARE.MANY PLACES ON THE MALL ARE GOOD NIGHTS OUT WITHOUT OVER DOING IT.THE HILL IS PARTY CENTRAL.NO SECRET HERE.

71 I don't believe Boulder's over consumption is worse than anywhere else in the Nov 17, 2012 9:28 AM world! I also don't believe there is a way of stopping it. Prohibition didn't stop it!

72 Have you guys checked out Morgan town or Greenville. Banning drinking will not Nov 17, 2012 4:20 AM stop students from drinking. It will enrage the town causing the public to speak out. The so called banning of alcohol will Be all over the news which will more then Likely cause a huge group of opposing people to form a rally against it. I think this law is taking it way to far. I'm from Virginia originally and I always wondered why there were so many shooting in Colorado.suddenly I'm not surprised. Who the hell is in charge of this town! ! Hitler ?

73 It's a shame to set up rules that hurt the businesses in town. Let's not make Nov 16, 2012 8:01 PM rules that hurt local businesses, there are already regulations about alcohol in place, let's not make it more difficult for businesses on the hill.

74 We lived for years a few blocks north of downtown and recently moved to the Nov 16, 2012 6:31 PM Hill. The problems up here are much more noticeable, drastic and recurrent. It's almost a different Boulder. We live on the 'fringe' of the student/resident zone but still experience noise, vandalism etc on a regular basis. It's almost shocking given the property cost in this part of the city. It's unclear why this is allowed to continue. It's a tiny geographic area that would seem to be controllable should

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the city decide to truly regulate and crack down on the issues here.

75 While there may be over consumption in Boulder, I don't know that there is a Nov 16, 2012 6:26 PM "problem".

76 Also on the University Campus. Nov 16, 2012 6:24 PM

77 Trick question. Higher population areas = higher number of over-consuming Nov 16, 2012 5:49 PM residents = higher impact. The Hill has a far smaller number of alcohol-selling businesses than downtown. Don't penalize The Hill if you're not legally prepared to also impose sever restrictions on downtown businesses. Such a law defies equal rights and takes the City of Boulder into costly and precarious legal territory.

78 I would say primarily on campus in the dorms where the new freshman don't Nov 16, 2012 5:18 PM know how to handle themselves yet.

79 I don't believe it's a problem where alcohol is regulated (Bars, Restaurants). The Nov 16, 2012 3:43 PM problem is where it's not regulated (private residences). Close down the hill early, you have more problems.

80 How are we to understand "over consumption"? As I wrote above, it's a cultural Nov 16, 2012 1:29 PM problem. It's not specifically a Boulder problem, a University Hill problem, etc. In my opinion, we "over consume" prescription drugs and performance- enhancing drugs, as well, and I can't imagine how more government regulation of businesses would end these problems. More laws and ordinances are not the answer.

81 It's a college town - involve university to handle problem through information, Nov 16, 2012 11:47 AM social resources

82 22 liquor licenses(with 15 serving till 2am) densely packed in the 3 blocks of Uni Nov 16, 2012 10:49 AM Hill in the middle of a diverse, long established University Hill residential neighborhood has significant, documented, detrimental affects on the residential neighborhood. Late nite serving bars ought to be concentrated downtown where there is more of a buffer to established residential neighborhoods. The council ought to adopt land use rules that incent Uni Hill to more resemble the economic diversity of east pearl street, east of the mall.

83 wherever the college students hang out is where the overconsumption is Nov 16, 2012 9:20 AM happening. that's where the focus should be.

84 Complaints are from residents living in a student area Nov 15, 2012 10:16 PM

85 It is the under age drinkers Nov 15, 2012 7:21 PM

86 In the minds of people too concerned with controlling people having a good time. Nov 15, 2012 5:59 PM

87 Most people get started (read: drunk) at private residences and then make their Nov 15, 2012 5:27 PM way to drinking establishments. Better control at the door of these bars would be a good place to start.

88 University Hill as private residence Nov 15, 2012 4:48 PM

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89 People drink all over the world. You can't single out one town and say there is a Nov 15, 2012 4:38 PM problem. The problems are personal. Not everyone who drinks is Boulder is disruptive. If there is a problem it needs to be handled on a case by case basis.

90 Martin Acres is pretty bad, too. Having lived in 5 or 6 areas of Boulder, I have Nov 15, 2012 3:21 PM experienced probems in several. The Hill is the worst. But there are many areas I no longer feel safe to walk in, and never alone!

91 Leave the Hill how it is! More regulation on the HIll will just lead to people living Nov 15, 2012 3:12 PM off the Hill and more drunk drivers and what not!

92 When I tried to make multiple selections the program erased each check as I Nov 15, 2012 3:09 PM checked another.

93 This is just an assumption due to the amount of kids up there. Nov 15, 2012 2:56 PM

94 While there is over-consumption in both downtown and Hill locations, the Hill is a Nov 15, 2012 2:26 PM much more volatile area with its underage student population across from a major university, who are exposed to a pervasive culture of alcohol as opposed to a more "academic" environment with bookstores, cafes, nice restaurants, retail. Downtown has more of a mix as well as the "over 30" crowd with children which tempers the impacts a bit. Pearl Street is also more spread out and does not directly abut a residential neighborhood. For the relatively small size of the University Hill business district, 19 liquor licenses, 9 of which are late-night, are way too many.

95 Frats Nov 15, 2012 2:05 PM

96 Since the Hill is so student heavy and the commercial area is so encouraging to Nov 15, 2012 1:54 PM consumption, and downtown is a magnet and well supplied with bars, all are impacted.

97 Since the Hill is so student heavy and the commercial area is so encouraging to Nov 15, 2012 1:54 PM consumption, and downtown is a magnet and well supplied with bars, all are impacted.

98 I believe they are concentrated in private residences - and not necessarily in the Nov 15, 2012 1:48 PM UNI Hill residential areas.

99 Boulder tends to gather a few different groups. Scientists and educators are Nov 15, 2012 1:28 PM certainly one, outdoor enthusiasts are another. Outdoor enthusiasts are another. Typically when outdoors people go out, they tend to party a bit harder than your average American citizen, check with any town that caters to this group. So, o say that over consumption is rampant in Boulder is nothing more than a pervasive untruth if global averages are taken into account.

100 Why do you not reference any other areas of boulder as potential problem ares? Nov 15, 2012 1:07 PM This survey is quite biased to only pertain to areas where students reside.

101 The Daily Camera, for years, has published a "crime map" once a week. And Nov 15, 2012 12:47 PM every week, crime is concentrated around the Uni Hill commercial district. Many of the crimes are asociated with drinking - vandalism, noise, sexual assault.

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102 focusing regulation on one particular area of boulder will eventually impact other Nov 15, 2012 12:43 PM areas and business districts

103 Marine Street, between 7th and 9th Streets. Over 10 years of first-hand Nov 15, 2012 12:35 PM experience and seeing home-owner flight as a result of student parties and noise, including families and City Council member Suzanne Jones. Lack of effective enforcement of existing regulations on noise, alcohol, and occupancy is the leading cause for this disturbing trend.

104 Downtown Boulder is a secondary area, but I choose the Hill as the primary Nov 15, 2012 12:34 PM location because it is where all the underage drinking happens, the wildest parties, etc. All the 21 year olds walk down to Pearl st and act (a little more) mature than the freshmen and sophomores at Hill parties.

105 Pearl Street and house parties. Nov 15, 2012 12:19 PM

106 Wherever there are bars and restaurants. Nov 15, 2012 12:13 PM

107 See above. Laws are the problem. Have to allow businesses to survive (e.g. Nov 15, 2012 12:01 PM sting abuse) or Boulder and especially Hill go ghetto.

108 If anywhere that is where they would be- my wife definitely does not walk Nov 15, 2012 11:41 AM through the University area by herself late at night because of fears of attack- this is not the case in the downtown areas

109 I would state that I don't necessarily think that there is a problem. Does it occur? Nov 15, 2012 10:45 AM yes - but i don't think that Boulder has any more issues with over consumption than any other city or college town across America.

110 This is not a "choose all that apply" question Nov 15, 2012 10:07 AM

111 Not Citywide - Nationwide - there is not one campus that I know of that do not Nov 15, 2012 9:54 AM have issues.

112 In this case, NOT the University commercial area but the Uni Hill Neighborhoods Nov 15, 2012 9:50 AM and Downtown (specific bars).

113 No more a problem in Boulder than in any other town with college kids. Fix this Nov 15, 2012 9:49 AM problem by lowering the legal drinking age in Colorado to 19. Over consumption of alcohol is a problem for the 19-21 crowd because when they have access to alcohol they consume more than they should, not knowing if they'll have access at their next destination, especially bars who follow the law strictly and ID.

114 Night life is a huge postive impact on people joining our community. Think Salt Nov 15, 2012 8:57 AM Lake City, people don't want to go on vacation or school there because of the their strick laws.

115 University parties Nov 15, 2012 6:40 AM

116 Over consumption of alcohol and drugs is a social issue that is felt all over our Nov 15, 2012 6:34 AM community. It is not isolated to one area. The assumption you are making is that overconsumption is caused by students on the hill and that is wrong to blame one group for a social ill that affects us all.

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117 It's a problem everywhere. Risk is part of life. You will do nothing but encourage Nov 15, 2012 1:53 AM people to drink elsewhere, and at a cheaper cost. Drinks are obviously cheaper from retail stores.

118 I can't say it's everywhere, or limit it to an area. It happens on a small scale Nov 14, 2012 9:07 PM throughout the county

119 Where does the data being used to construct the proposition suggest the Nov 14, 2012 8:46 PM problem is? The question suggests there is no data.

120 And hill residential Nov 14, 2012 8:04 PM

121 Mostly non business related (U-hill) Nov 14, 2012 7:22 PM

122 Software does not let me choose multiple options above. Problem is downtown Nov 14, 2012 7:09 PM and Hill commercial areas and adjacent residential areas.

123 The main problems are concentrated in the minds of homeowners who Nov 14, 2012 7:06 PM purchased a house in an area like University Hill and believe their values are effected by students drinking. Understand they knew this was the case when they bought, but as they have aged and become less comfortable with it, they have become more certain drinking is the issue. The issue is they purchased a home in a mixed use community, and are going to have to accept that at some point.

124 Boulder is a college town. Get over it. Why not establish a curfue like Nazi Nov 14, 2012 5:53 PM Germany did?

125 Let's not tell others that we know what's best for them. How about people make Nov 14, 2012 5:46 PM their mistakes, face a penalty if they break the law, and learn from them?

126 You can't select more than one (i.e. "choose all that apply") with bubbles. I'm Nov 14, 2012 5:14 PM really disappointed that the city thinks it can solve this "problem" when they can't even make a correct survey...

127 And all throughout in the neighborhoods. Nov 14, 2012 5:08 PM

128 Residence life Nov 14, 2012 5:07 PM

129 in house/fraternity parties Nov 14, 2012 5:04 PM

130 Around specific groups of people not necessarily a geographic location. Nov 14, 2012 5:02 PM

131 The hill = underage. Pearl = drunk shit show. Nov 14, 2012 4:58 PM

132 They aren't just concentrated in Boulder, the issue is everywhere. Putting a ban Nov 14, 2012 4:53 PM on certain bars in a specific area will not decrease any type of alcoholic overconsumption. All it does it puts a restriction on the businesses' right to make money.

133 Also other neighborhood areas that students tend to live in Nov 14, 2012 4:47 PM

134 The few problems that do exist are concentrated in residential areas. Nov 14, 2012 4:45 PM

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135 They are spread across the nation. We are an over-consuming country. Nov 14, 2012 4:32 PM

136 all over the united states Nov 14, 2012 4:31 PM

137 At residential homes, especially in the Greek scene of CU Nov 14, 2012 4:26 PM

138 see above comment. Nov 14, 2012 3:50 PM

139 answered in the context of "if there was a problem..." Nov 14, 2012 2:40 PM

140 On the roads Nov 14, 2012 2:37 PM

141 In areas that typically house college students - the Hill, areas north of Arapahoe Nov 14, 2012 2:35 PM and south of Pine, etc.

142 and pearl st. Nov 14, 2012 1:36 PM

143 Maybe in the council if they consider this a good idea. Nov 14, 2012 1:18 PM

144 Where people drink. There is no need for more rules, let people suffer their own Nov 14, 2012 12:47 PM consequences. Turning Boulder into a nanny state is ridiculous.

145 On campus in dorms. Nov 14, 2012 12:38 PM

146 Over consumption is citywide, however choosing the first option concedes it is a Nov 14, 2012 12:36 PM specific problem to Boulder.

147 The problems are nationwide. Nov 14, 2012 12:02 PM

148 Again, it is not a secret that majority of alcohol abuse takes place on private Nov 14, 2012 11:55 AM residence (generally the hill), The Hill business district, as well as downtown Boulder.

149 This question is biased towards students and the hill. I get your point... You want Nov 14, 2012 11:48 AM a biased survey result to push through your bull shit policy.

150 You can only choose 1...not all that apply. I believe that the over consumption, Nov 14, 2012 11:44 AM when it happens, is primarily located on the Hill in the residential areas. Other than that, I think that over consumption could be seen as a state wide issue...not just on the Hill.

151 What kind of question is this? Obviously drinking is concentrated around mostly Nov 14, 2012 11:33 AM around bars. Sooo... where are bars in Boulder? The Hill and Pearl street... So if you were to say there are, in fact, "impacts", they would be in these areas. But, I still think this is not an issue and I LIVE ON THE HILL.

152 It is not a problem in businesses. It is a problem in private residences & other Nov 14, 2012 11:31 AM areas where kids under 21 are binge drinking.

153 in park areas. Nov 14, 2012 10:12 AM

154 The system wouldn't let me choose more than one. I would add Downtown Nov 14, 2012 8:13 AM Boulder (especially near bar close).

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155 I do not believe the Boulder is any different than the rest of the counrtry with Nov 14, 2012 7:27 AM regards to over consumption. We do not need "big brother" attempting to creaste their own idea of a "perfect "society

156 I chose citywide because the use of alcohol is everywhere. We have enough Nov 14, 2012 7:06 AM regulations to deal with it today.

157 Your question said choose all that apply, but it wouldn't let me do that. I feel Nov 13, 2012 11:46 PM there are problems Downtown as well as the Hill/residential area.

158 I feel drinking in regulated environments (bars) promotes local businesses and Nov 13, 2012 7:29 PM discourages negative impacts of alcohol consumption. If there are fewer bars it seems more likely for people to consume alcohol in residences in monitored and recklessly.

159 These should be check boxes, can't select more than one. Nov 13, 2012 7:17 PM

160 Pearl street as well as college house parties Nov 13, 2012 6:22 PM

161 If an individual business is serving liquor to minors or drunks, enforce existing Nov 13, 2012 6:09 PM rules against that establishment. Stop adding more rules when the existing ones are not being enforced.

162 University Hill commercial and residential areas Nov 13, 2012 6:03 PM

163 You are leading your respondents with questions 6,7 and 8. It's insulting. Nov 13, 2012 5:14 PM

164 The problems is simply those who over react to pseudo news and like to jump on Nov 13, 2012 4:55 PM an easy feel good bandwagon. Also those who are prejudiced against bar owners, the college crowd, and/or the childless; all of whom would suffer under additional regulations, while over drinkers will just keep drinking.

165 Your leading the question on this! Nov 13, 2012 4:44 PM

166 I feel that over-consumption is typically due to individuals starting on university Nov 13, 2012 4:13 PM hill with their friends and then coming down to Pearl Street where they have a drink or two and realize that they have consumed more than they should have.

167 *Nationwide* Nov 13, 2012 3:44 PM

168 I don't hang out around university hill so don't have a good foundation to judge Nov 13, 2012 3:43 PM that area, but have not noticed a problem in other areas.

169 Again, I believe it's consumption in areas that you shouldn't be consuming. Nov 13, 2012 3:23 PM Public parks, near schools, etc.

170 Drunks in Beach park, couch fires, noise, etc. Nov 13, 2012 3:15 PM

171 one or two long established bars that cater to 21 year old students Nov 13, 2012 3:10 PM

172 Could only check one but I feel the Hill commercial district's impacts spread Nov 13, 2012 3:08 PM throughout the Hill neighborhood

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173 From College street north to Portland street and from 6th street east to 28th Nov 13, 2012 2:54 PM street.

174 I've recently seen and smelled vomit throughout downtown Boulder, a sure sign Nov 13, 2012 2:25 PM of overconsumption. However, I'm guessing that the overconsumption problem is everywhere in town.

175 Our neighborhood, called Baseline Four on planning maps, has I would estimate Nov 13, 2012 2:22 PM 50% student rentals. But I wish to emphasize not all students act like wild and crazy people.

176 The Boulder Liquor Authority, Boulder City Council Nov 13, 2012 2:22 PM

177 I can only say the residential area as that is where I am when it occurs.I am not Nov 13, 2012 2:18 PM against students per se( as many of the crabby rich residents are)-just the behavior of the drunks.

178 Most people drink excessively at home....therefore that covers the entire city, but Nov 13, 2012 2:15 PM not due to location of bars/restaurants.

179 while i dont see it as a real issue, the are its most concentrated is downtown and Nov 13, 2012 2:02 PM house parties

180 The Hill residential area is nearly as bad as the commercial district. 2 votes Nov 13, 2012 1:57 PM should be allowed for this question

181 Student housing. Nov 13, 2012 1:36 PM

182 It seems the problem of over consumption occurs only in the eyes of the Nov 13, 2012 1:10 PM observer. And a certain percentage of the observers complain and Ken Wilson doesn't like it.

183 Really most of it is off pearl Nov 13, 2012 1:01 PM

184 University hill, commercial and residential areas. Nov 13, 2012 12:45 PM

185 The problems are concentrated at or near liquor stores not bar areas. So this Nov 13, 2012 12:31 PM would really begin with those stores near downtown Boulder and radius outward to the other stores available.

186 please do not drive more partying to the neighborhoods. Nov 13, 2012 12:31 PM

187 I think that over consumption tends to be more common with people who are Nov 13, 2012 12:26 PM newer to drinking and don't know their limits. Therefore I would say that the problem would be more in areas where young adults live. Hoever, many older people also have problems with ove rconsumption, I don't think location makes much difference.

188 The problems of over consumption are a national issue, not a local one. Nov 13, 2012 12:13 PM

189 There is a problem with drunks but I feel the city is trying too hard to squash Nov 13, 2012 12:10 PM drinking.

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190 See comments above. Nov 13, 2012 12:06 PM

191 While the Hill neighborhoods are seen as an issue, the reality is that people can Nov 13, 2012 12:02 PM drink too much anyplace. The neighborhood/residential association of The Hill makes a lot of noise about this issue, but they've brought it upon themselves by trying to curtail businesses on the Hill, thus pushing the younger, local student population into house parties. Let establishments do business on the Hill, and you open up opportunities for local business while helping get the drinking into places it should be happening: at bars and nightclubs.

192 Survey will not permit me to choose more than one - I would say downtown, Nov 13, 2012 11:58 AM university hill commercial and university hill residential.

193 Near all liquor stores, I can name at least five all in different areas. Nov 13, 2012 11:51 AM

194 It can and will happen anywhere alcohol is sold. But populus wants to consume, Nov 13, 2012 11:28 AM so the bars and liquour stores will provide. If the supply is reduced, the consumption won't stop, it will just change.

195 City parks with shelters, underage teens are using these regularly. Nov 13, 2012 11:17 AM

196 Over consumption doesn't seem more of a problem in Boulder than elsewhere Nov 13, 2012 11:13 AM so I'm not sure I understand why this is being pursued.

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1 Any over consumption issues I'm aware of seem to occur at house/apartment Dec 2, 2012 1:57 PM parties because the businesses seem to be well regulated already. I don't think that regulating businesses further will alleviate any problems there might be.

2 I don't think Boulder business should be hassled because of the unpredictable Dec 1, 2012 7:44 PM behavior of the few. This will not solve problems of over-consumption.

3 They are trying to run a business. It is their right and they found a niche that Nov 30, 2012 6:52 PM people will pay for. It's capitalism.

4 businesses have the right to sell alcohol to persons of age to drink. to limit their Nov 30, 2012 3:34 PM hours of operation to 11pm would not solve any issues of overconsumption if any exist, it would most likely shift the problem, if one exists, into areas that are less likely to be regulated and riskier in nature. the atmosphere that boulder's many bars creates is a draw for people to visit boulder and generates significant revenue for those business owners. it would be wrong to limit the number of hours they operate to 11pm in an effort to combat overconsumption when there are already laws in place that try to address overconsumption and the risks associated.

5 I think nightlife is an important part of any city's culture, and curtailing this would Nov 30, 2012 12:12 PM not be desirable. At UCLA, they established strict zoning regulations in neighboring Westwood. The result was that students often drove or took cabs further from the area to go dancing and have fun, and there were probably more apartment/house parties as a result. I don't think these are positive results.

6 One of the great things about living in Boulder is that restaurants are open so Nov 30, 2012 10:53 AM late--past midnight. It would be terrible to force businesses to close earlier and take away that benefit from residents just because some people drink too much.

7 Nothing good happens after 11 p.m. Especially on college campuses where Nov 30, 2012 9:14 AM students sleep in until 10 a.m.

8 I believe things are fine as they are. Nov 30, 2012 8:48 AM

9 I don't think businesses should be held accountable for the behavior of some of Nov 30, 2012 8:47 AM their patrons....it's called personal responsibility!!! If anything there should be stricter fines for the perpetrators of the poor behavior. Continue to educate the management and waitstaff about the consequences of overserving of course and don't punish them if they try to do the right thing (cut off the drunks and calling the police to take care of those who are misbehaving).

10 The economy is difficult and these businesses support jobs and the local Nov 30, 2012 8:31 AM economy. Over consumption is an exaggerated problem and hurting local businesses won't help anyone.

11 Alcohol consumption is legal over the age of 21. Where it is consumed or bought Nov 30, 2012 6:29 AM is not the problem. A farther regulation would cause more problems.

12 It will have a terrible impact on business in Boulder, then everyone will complain Nov 30, 2012 12:40 AM about the economy in Boulder not being as good as it used to be. Monitor for drunk and disorderly people, don't change the laws so that there would be a negative impact on business.

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13 Businesses thrive off of late night sales, taking that away would cause problems Nov 30, 2012 12:06 AM for them

14 Unnecessary, violation of privacy rights. Nov 29, 2012 11:39 PM

15 The bars and late night businesses are not where people are "over consuming" Nov 29, 2012 11:27 PM alcohol. If anything they are safe havens on the hill offering the safety of a crowd late at night. If you close down these businesses, the people that will inevitably be forced to go home late and walk through these areas are at even more of a risk. The problems lie away from these businesses.

16 That is insane. Prohibition only breeds more illegal activity. If history tells us Nov 29, 2012 10:31 PM anything, it's that. Provide options for people to legally indulge, within walking distance of their homes is a necessity. You are NOT going to regulate out the behavior, just push it underground where underage drinking and illegal drugs are much more available.

17 Regulation is not the answer here. Nov 29, 2012 10:28 PM

18 Regulations are bad for the economy Nov 29, 2012 10:07 PM

19 Local businesses shouldn't be effected by problems due to underage drinking. Nov 29, 2012 9:59 PM

20 Why should businesses suffer because people frequent them more after a Nov 29, 2012 9:51 PM certain hour? Those frequenting the bars are of age (Boulder establishments are VERY strict on IDs) so they shouldn't be punished.

21 I disagree that this would solve a problem anyways, other than to negatively Nov 29, 2012 9:49 PM affect local businesses that have become a trademark of Boulder. Some of these local restaurants and taverns are even the reason why Boulder receives so many tourists. I believe that this zoning would negatively impact these businesses and possibly effect the local economy.

22 Shouldn't be located near school College or high school where people are trying Nov 29, 2012 9:46 PM to learn

23 Location is vacation destination. Limiting will hurt business. Revenue and Nov 29, 2012 9:35 PM livelihood

24 Its not the job of the boulder government to control the legal actions of its Nov 29, 2012 9:32 PM citizens. not only is this wildly inappropriate but may adversely impact locally owned businesses which have always acted responsibly.

25 What difference would it make? Nov 29, 2012 9:30 PM

26 Again, this is a college town. People drink in college towns. If you don't allow Nov 29, 2012 9:23 PM them to drink in a certain area, they will move to a different area and drink there.

27 Everything is fine the way it is. Nov 29, 2012 9:22 PM

28 Creating more regulations will not force college students to drink less, it will just Nov 29, 2012 9:15 PM mean more drinking in private residences. It just pushes any issues into residential neighborhoods instead of commercial areas.

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29 No, many of those are simply niche small businesses. The problem, if there is Nov 29, 2012 9:03 PM one, needs to be addressed from an orientation and education standpoint, from high school to college.

30 Hurts productive businesses and ones that are popularly used by not only Nov 29, 2012 8:59 PM boulder residents and students but tourists and guest

31 It is unfair to single out businesses because of a few bad apples. Most over Nov 29, 2012 8:57 PM consumption occurs at private house parties by under age drinkers.

32 I've never seen a problem. Businesses watch the problem themselves. Nov 29, 2012 8:53 PM

33 See above Nov 29, 2012 8:52 PM

34 This law would screw over multiple successful businesses simply because of Nov 29, 2012 8:49 PM where they are located. This is disgusting.

35 It's too limiting to their business! They need to run their businesses their way. Nov 29, 2012 8:44 PM

36 This would hurt businesses and employment in Boulder, especially on the hill. Nov 29, 2012 8:43 PM

37 Don't ruin Boulder Nov 29, 2012 8:42 PM

38 I think it is bad for business and it would be incredibly foolish to stop selling Nov 29, 2012 6:36 PM alcohol at 11 pm. That not only hurts business but it also will just push drinking more into house parties and the neighborhood.

39 It's not the businesses' fault, majority of students aren't drinking age anyway. Nov 29, 2012 6:34 PM

40 I think the laws are fine as-is. It should be about teaching the college kids to be Nov 29, 2012 5:42 PM responsible, not just punishing the bars. If they want alcohol, they will find a way.

41 I have no idea what the current zoning regulations are so I have no idea if I Nov 29, 2012 5:16 PM support additional regulations.

42 Changing business wont change actions. Those who want to drink will drink. An Nov 29, 2012 5:10 PM effort should be made to educate people to not drink excessively.

43 Businesses that sell alcohol should not be singled out for unfair, burdensome Nov 29, 2012 4:49 PM regulations.

44 I would not support additional regulation. People need to be responsible for Nov 29, 2012 4:12 PM themselves. If a bar is repeatedly overserving intoxicated customers, they should be fined or lose their liquor license, but don't punish those of us who drink responsibly by closing down bars that we like to go to (often after 11pm). Rowdy students will just go drink in their homes, bringing more late night noise issues to residential areas.

45 Having businesses open after 11 PM means an all-night crowd on the hill. All- Nov 29, 2012 4:06 PM night crowds tend to deter rapists, muggers and other people who prefer to operate without witnesses.

46 If additional regulations limit the times or types of alcohol served, this will not Nov 29, 2012 3:49 PM discourage alcohol consumption. Rather, it will just relocate the problem at 11

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pm, possibly including intoxicated driving.

47 I would not support additional regulations. Boulder already has significant zoning Nov 29, 2012 3:35 PM regulations. Decreasing the businesses availability of being open past 11PM hinders the competitiveness with surrounding cities especially Denver. Most young adults seek night life opportunities and these creative class people are the growth and employees of high-growth start-ups which contribute large value to the city of Boulder in property value, tax revenue and knowledge growth. Pushing these people out because of a desire to close businesses sooner will create a brain drain where valuable entrepreneurs will move to other cities to build, operate and develop their business.

48 See above. Stop punishing businesses. It WILL NOT be an effective deterrent Nov 29, 2012 3:32 PM for consumption of alcohol. We were all underage and in college once. Would it have been an effective deterrent for you? I know it wouldn't have been for me, or most anyone.

49 Regulation is not the answer. I would encourage enforcement of existing laws. Nov 29, 2012 3:25 PM

50 It hurts business in a needless way, and I doubt it will have any real affect on Nov 29, 2012 3:25 PM lowering alcohol consumption. Drinkers that are of legal age to go to a business and drink will just stay at house parties and drink. This is much more dangerous and disruptive: its loud in residential areas and creates more house parties where unsupervised and underage drinking can occur.

51 These businesses are economic engines that pump money from student's Nov 29, 2012 3:05 PM parents into our local economy. Boulder should focus on true issues like crime and homelessness, and stop picking on the young people.

52 i feel like the problem is concentrated in the Hill and I worry if you shut down the Nov 29, 2012 3:03 PM hill bars at 11 they will just move to Pearl St, and I think that would be a very negative outcome.

53 Bad idea. Nov 29, 2012 2:57 PM

54 That is a ridiculous proposition. People will go elsewhere to do their drinking. Nov 29, 2012 2:56 PM

55 You will destroy businesses in an already down economy. You are attacking the Nov 29, 2012 2:54 PM "problem" from the wrong direction because it is easiest. Lazy way out. Educate people to make smart choices.

56 People are going to drink no matter what. Additional regulations will only hurt Nov 29, 2012 2:54 PM businesses, employees, and the economy. Alcohol is not the problem per se, the problems occur from unlawful conduct after alcohol is consumed, which these regulations would do nothing to curb. More enforcement of disorderly conduct and drunk driving would be more effective.

57 11pm won't change over consumption. The time schedule will just move up -- Nov 29, 2012 2:46 PM how about more education or safe-ride components?

58 This it not the way to regulate over-consumption of alcohol. I would much rather Nov 29, 2012 2:45 PM put it in the hands of trained bouncers and bartenders in limiting over- consumption as opposed to forcing undergrads to throw more house parties

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because of the strict proposed amendment. Also, wouldn't this encourage people from simply going outside of Boulder, thus increasing the likelihood of drunk driving? If you want to manage over-consumption, shouldn't the regulation be a reasonable one and not one that almost completely strips businesses of their right to sell alcohol?

59 Once again, this is a social issue. Regulating business owners will simply drive Nov 29, 2012 2:45 PM young drinkers into the dorms. When the statistics are examined, it is clear that this is the least safe place for drinking to occur. It is better that drinking be open and visible.

60 That is just absurd to go against statutory regulations that are already in place Nov 29, 2012 2:44 PM for those that have liquor licenses. A time limit is not going to change anything.

61 The last thing we need is more city regulations. If there are people ready, Nov 29, 2012 2:42 PM willing, and able to open businesses that they hope/expect to be profitable, we shouldn't hamstring them by putting in place draconian rules. At least if there are problem drinkers in a public place, there are security personnel and police officers who can react. That seems like a much better solution than having kids die from alcohol poisoning at house parties or in their dorm rooms.

62 I think that our country, and this city's, alcohol problems stem from over- Nov 29, 2012 2:42 PM regulation. I do not believe that further regulation will resolve our unhealthy relationship with the drug. Further regulation will likely be more detrimental than helpful.

63 I don't think zoning regulations would effectively reduce alcohol consumption. Nov 29, 2012 2:42 PM Alcohol consumption occurs primarily in private residences. Bars are great about limiting overconsumption by refusing service.

64 It is the under 21 people that are causing problems Nov 29, 2012 2:38 PM

65 I don't think we should restrict the town businesses on alcohol sales. Nov 28, 2012 10:50 PM

66 I don't think more zoning regulations are the answer. Rather, I feel that Boulder Nov 28, 2012 10:02 PM makes it too difficult for CU students and other residents and guests to find substance free forms of entertainment late at night.

67 As a person of legal drinking age, I often do not go out until 10 or 11 o'clock and Nov 28, 2012 7:21 PM enjoy have places in Boulder that stay open until 2am.

68 Boulder's bars and restaurants are experienced in refusing alcohol to intoxicated Nov 28, 2012 7:21 PM customers. Overconsumption of alcohol is more of a problem in private residences and at house parties where there is no regulation of the amount of alcohol being consumed.

69 Closing businesses will not help our community during this difficult economic Nov 28, 2012 7:18 PM time

70 I believe these places are a safer environment for people to drink and have fun. Nov 28, 2012 7:16 PM

71 Businesses have employees like bartenders and bouncers that can control Nov 28, 2012 7:13 PM behavior. Private residences do not. Restricting sales at ab rs will simply shift

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consumption to other areas.

72 Additional zoning regulations for business that sell alcohol or operate after 11 Nov 28, 2012 6:14 PM p.m. would cause those businesses to take major losses in revenue, which significantly outweighs any problems associated with consumption or "over- consumption" of alcohol in Boulder.

73 The business isn't the problem. It's the kids getting too drunk at home and at Nov 28, 2012 5:23 PM parties.

74 Alcohol is legal if you're 21, period. No point in limiting it, especially at bars. Nov 28, 2012 5:03 PM People have staff at bars to look out for them. If they can't get served at bars, they'll drink at parties, which is much more risky.

75 You should not be able to restrict an owners due rights. Nov 28, 2012 4:59 PM

76 Fuck off Boulder! This isn't a Nazi regime it is America and in America we should Nov 28, 2012 4:21 PM be able to drink and not be regulated!

77 I dont think it is the fault of businesses Nov 28, 2012 3:39 PM

78 People will just buy before and the sale of alcohol helps the boulder economy Nov 28, 2012 3:08 PM

79 That is just going to push alcohol consumption into homes. Nov 28, 2012 2:15 PM

80 *I support separating restaurants and Bar/Taverns. *I do not support revoking the Nov 28, 2012 10:43 AM 500ft from Universities resolution. *I think periodic reviews could be helpfull, but more interested in their being an avenue through which complaints may be issued and lead to a review if necessary, rather than mandatory reviews. *I do not support spacing requirements, I think it is good to have some concentration of businesses. On the other-hand I would like to see smaller relaxed pubs throughout the city which could reduce driving issues as Participants can walk to local venues.

81 Im not 21 yet so this doesn't really effect me Nov 28, 2012 10:13 AM

82 More regulation will never fix a problem. Nov 28, 2012 8:54 AM

83 The problem is not the bars, its the hill. Nov 28, 2012 8:42 AM

84 Bars open after eleven are the norm now, no? Why punish them for catering to Nov 28, 2012 8:28 AM the public? And if you think closing bars before midnight will stop late-night alcohol consumption, you're dreaming. In fact, it would push those who had been drinking in a designated place (the bar) to drinking in the streets, which would be louder, or to house parties, which can be more dangerous (especially considering alcohol poisoning.)

85 Density limitations - # of businesses in an area, an infraction limit before permits Nov 28, 2012 7:46 AM are revoked, etc.

86 There is absolutely no reason to punish the businesses for students being Nov 28, 2012 5:05 AM stupid. Stop trying to screw over the business owners and focus on the root of the problem, the idiots that can't handle their alcohol.

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87 Alcohol overconsumption is a problem but enforcing new regulations is not the Nov 27, 2012 11:21 PM way to prevent this.

88 Depending on what type of restrictions Nov 27, 2012 11:17 PM

89 Alcohol overconsumption is not a problem in Boulder and oft alcohol Nov 27, 2012 11:09 PM consumption is over exaggerated. In addition, additional regulations would only increase the consumption of alcohol by forcing people to purchase more as they'd likely have to travel further to get it or purchase it at an inconvenient time. Regulation is not the way to solve a problem, even though in this case none exists because overconsumption is not an issue.

90 Penalizing businesses for a culturally-based problem will not fix the problem. Nov 27, 2012 10:57 PM

91 I think the sale of beer and wine is fine in establishments closer to Nov 27, 2012 10:52 PM neighborhoods, but clubs and bars with more hard liquor and are louder should be further from residences.

92 You would kill a lot of businesses on the hill if you regulated how close they Nov 27, 2012 10:42 PM could be to establishments like a school, even some that cause absolutely no problem. For instance Illegal Petes is a great place for burritos and a lot of people grab lunch there, but because they have a bar upstairs they would have to move away from campus and Boulder High School. The same sort of thing would happen to a lot of places.

93 This is ridiculous, the increase of regulations on alcohol has made Boulder even Nov 27, 2012 10:27 PM more prone to excessive drinking. Give people space and they will learn how to be smart about their consumption. Threaten them and they will only drink more.

94 I think zoning regulations need to be put in place particularly around the hill as it Nov 27, 2012 10:00 PM gives easy access to students to go to the bars. Pearl street is far enough away from the main concentration of students that not as many people cause problems in that area. I would LOVE to see a study done to see where the majority of crime in Boulder happens. It really makes Boulder a disgusting city (area around the hill) and is one reason I moved to Denver.

95 I couldn't unless I knew more about the regulations. Nov 27, 2012 9:56 PM

96 It should still be avaliable. people will be mad if that is put in place Nov 27, 2012 9:38 PM

97 The businesses that sell and operate alcohol do not have a problem here Nov 27, 2012 9:27 PM

98 Boulder is a college town. Bars are where the college kids are. If you don't like it, Nov 27, 2012 9:25 PM don't live on the Hill...

99 The problem is not selling alcohol to underage people, it's that underage drinkers Nov 27, 2012 9:22 PM get it from the legal drinkers.

100 1) It is bad for businesses. 2) Students will just go home and drink more than Nov 27, 2012 9:08 PM they would at a bar.

101 There is enough regulation already, just apply with common sense. Nov 27, 2012 9:08 PM

102 I believe that alcohol is not necessary to have fun, and that it can be extremely Nov 27, 2012 9:04 PM

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dangerous and have a widespread impact when used irresponsibly, so in my opinion more control over alcohol is better.

103 I believe that is people want to drink after 11pm they should do so at there place Nov 27, 2012 9:00 PM of residence. I think that this would cut down on d.u.i. offenses and create safer night roads.

104 I can't see the true benefit of it. Nov 27, 2012 8:56 PM

105 I like the idea of periodically renewing permits. However, I dislike the idea of Nov 27, 2012 8:56 PM restricting alcohol sales near campus as the hill is a very appealing location as a student.

106 Buying alcohol late at night doesn't affect anything. The rate of consumption will Nov 27, 2012 8:43 PM remain the same, but the schedule will shift. People will just get more alcohol in preparation for liquor stores and bars closing.

107 I believe in the principle of free enterprise and this regulation would just step on Nov 27, 2012 8:31 PM the toes of business to much.

108 Maybe, but I would like to know more about what exactly I would be supporting. I Nov 27, 2012 8:25 PM don't think it is the bars that are the problem, more the people drinking the alcohol. I think that personal responsibility should come first, not more regulations on businesses.

109 If you take away alcohol you take away the people. The city may be "cleaner" Nov 27, 2012 5:39 PM and "quieter" but you will 100% lose most business.

110 Boulder has a bustling nightlife, one that the City should be proud and supportive Nov 27, 2012 3:36 PM of. In travels across the country, I always find it strange to be in a city that "shuts down at 11pm" - it looks and feels like a ghost town. Part of the charm of Boulder is that it has a scene and a night life well after 11pm. I don't feel it is excessive or inappropriate, merely entertaining.

111 These are businesses that provide a service and putting additional zoning Nov 27, 2012 3:04 PM regulations will only hamper their business and create more failed businesses.

112 It's not good for business. Nov 27, 2012 12:11 PM

113 This is capitalism, you can't restrict business in this matter or they will just find Nov 27, 2012 10:36 AM another place to open up, causing the loss of tax revenue and prestige to the city.

114 I think the current model is working. Nov 27, 2012 9:58 AM

115 I am not fully informed to make a desicion on this matter. Nov 27, 2012 9:41 AM

116 Too many regulations make it that much harder for businesses to operate and Nov 27, 2012 9:40 AM remain in business.

117 I think the way that Boulder handles alcohol regulations is pretty harsh compared Nov 27, 2012 9:17 AM to other places i've been to

118 My concern would be that regulating one area (Uni hill area) would only push the Nov 27, 2012 8:53 AM

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problem to other areas including increased DUI's since most people are able to walk to Uni Hill they'd make their way to 29th street mall and Pearl.

119 Making new bars close at 11 might help with people drinking too much Nov 27, 2012 6:46 AM specifically in the bars, but it wouldn't stop people from 'pre-gaming' and would mean that after the bar closes, people either just go to another one (that stays open til 2) or most likely try to find something else to do while the night is still young - now they're drunk, not ready to go home, and outside.

120 See the previous comments on the primary locations of over consumption. Nov 26, 2012 7:48 PM

121 More regulation is not going to stop over-consumption of alcohol. Over Nov 26, 2012 7:16 PM consumption of alcohol will always exist as long as there is alcohol. However, how we can curb the over consumption of alcohol in the hill area for our young leaders of tomorrow through educational programs and incentives for college students to choose to be responsible when drinking. We are already taking the steps here in Boulder with some of the most caring and respectful business owners who are go above and beyond to make sure we work to stop underage drinking, cut off patrons who are intoxicated, and get people safely home. Why should we impose stricter sanctions on our small businesses who are already up to their chins in liability - working hard to ensure their patrons are not over- served? I am not a bar owner in Boulder, and frankly if regulation like this passes I wouldn't want to be. I would just go to Denver.

122 99.9% of liquor lisence holders are responsible business owners and understand Nov 26, 2012 6:02 PM it is not in their best interest to over serve its customers. If specific businesses are breaking the law by over serving then THEY should be punished to the full extent of the law. New zoning is not necessary if laws are enforced.

123 Stop trying to be a nanny state. Existing laws are fine to handle any alcohol Nov 26, 2012 5:16 PM consumption issues.

124 Many responsible adults, capable of making mature decisions over their own Nov 26, 2012 5:16 PM alcohol consumption, still wish to purchase alcohol after 11 p.m. Do not punish those who know how to enjoy alcohol safely and responsibly for the mistakes of dumb college kids.

125 Not sure, depends on laws and areas. Need more specific info. Nov 26, 2012 5:15 PM

126 Drinking is usually done past 11, and I do not feel it is the city's right to regulate Nov 26, 2012 4:56 PM what time we can, or can't consume something.

127 I think it might help regulate maintaining a license versus earning extra money by Nov 26, 2012 3:58 PM over serving alcoholic beverages

128 Less businesses being able to sell after 11pm will cause more house parties and Nov 26, 2012 3:39 PM more problems.

129 I would only favor use renewal changes. I think it would help keep the rogue Nov 26, 2012 3:27 PM establishments in line, as it could pose a real threat to their existence.

130 Not needed. Nov 26, 2012 2:47 PM

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131 A large portion of the over 21 adults do not generally come out until later in the Nov 26, 2012 2:45 PM evening and it would be a burden to businesses that rely on that population.

132 I think there should be a concentrated area that can be properly policed. Any Nov 26, 2012 2:01 PM other bars shoudl be outside residential areas.

133 The more safety regulations, the better. Even though we are young and Nov 26, 2012 1:51 PM supposed to be there for our friends/ourselves having additional eyes/regulations on us can't hurt. Better safe than sorry.

134 Among students, binge drinking occurs primarily in private (house parties, frat Nov 26, 2012 1:31 PM parties, etc,) which means that the alcohol is in the form of bulk hard liquor (not mixed drinks served at bars, which are too expensive for students to buy copious amounts of.) Zoning regulations would just hurt businesses that aren't significantly contributing to this problem-- if we want to reduce the amount of liquor consumed in Boulder, we need to address the cultural attitude around alcohol consumption.

135 By creating additional zoning regulations for businesses that sell alcohol or Nov 26, 2012 1:30 PM operate after 11 p.m., you are harming the city's economic well-being.

136 I'm not exactly sure what would be considered best practice. I would think more Nov 26, 2012 1:30 PM discretion and enforcement of problem behavior would be a good start. But I don't support just going after underage drinkers. The problem is people who act badly or do harmful things when they drink.

137 It is absurd to believe that zoning regulations would curb the over consumption Nov 26, 2012 1:16 PM of alcohol.

138 Ask businesses to be more discerning in who they server there alcohol to. If a Nov 26, 2012 1:13 PM person is young, it is a given that they should be carded. In Boulder, they usually are. I don't say businesses are very mindful of when they should stop providing drinks to their customer. There is a point, long before they are obviously visibly impared, where they should be cut off. At this point, the should already have a good buzz going and would not need to drink anymore alcohol. Any alcohol after that point is excessive and threefore an "over consumption."

139 I believe between the Boulder PD, under age stings, and DUI checkpoints Nov 26, 2012 1:08 PM Boulder has done a great job keeping people in check. Although things can always happen, I feel laws like regulating businesses is bad form. Boulder is a food and drink town, a tourist town, it's educated. People need to take care of themselves. I hate saying it, but this isnt a "nanny state". The idea of a city/governement watching its residents for overconsumption of alcohol is absurd. If your an adult that lives on the hill and hates the noise or late night activities, I get it, but what can you do. I live next to a homeless shelter and new homeless complex and have to pass bums everyday asking for money right outside my front door. What can I do? You live with it.

140 The businesses that serve alcohol on the hill are some of the most fun places to Nov 26, 2012 1:02 PM be at night because those businesses provide a place where people can socialize, eat and drink where they feel safe. Those businesses also give those who are older than 21 something to do on the hill that does not feel dangerous, illegal, or immature.

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141 I am employed by one of these locations and doing so would most likely hurt my Nov 26, 2012 12:52 PM income. Additionally, I don't believe regulating these businesses will alleviate any over consumption problems experienced in Boulder. The main problem is underage consumption of alcohol and excessive drinking at house parties and private residences.

142 there are significant issues facing the world and Boulder and rezoning Nov 26, 2012 12:51 PM regulations for businesses that sell alcohol or operate after 11 p.m. will not fix any of it.

143 I don't think it's the business' fault if people are over-consuming. Having Nov 26, 2012 12:38 PM businesses close at 11pm will only push people to move to a different location. If people want to consume alcohol, they will find a way.

144 The present system is not broken, don't change anything. Nov 26, 2012 12:14 PM

145 Closing the establishment at 11 doesn't stop the drinking, it only ends Nov 26, 2012 12:07 PM supervision and moves late night drinking back into the residential areas.

146 because it is legal and all should be treated equal Nov 26, 2012 11:19 AM

147 Would like to see stronger enforcement for these business with stiff penalties for Nov 26, 2012 11:04 AM noncompliance. Liquor Mart has done an amazing job of supporting the community while stringently making sure that their customer base is of age (even with the proximity to Boulder High).

148 This isn't too unreasonable, as long as it isn't applied to bars. Nov 26, 2012 10:58 AM

149 Crippling Boulder businesses will not reduce over consumption, it will just occur Nov 26, 2012 10:54 AM in less safe places.

150 Boulder is already way over-regulated. They do allow a lot of liquor licensees but Nov 26, 2012 10:51 AM that is about the only positive thing they do

151 Its communist. Nov 26, 2012 10:47 AM

152 You remove it from a businees who is required to control alcohol consumption Nov 26, 2012 10:43 AM and it will move to a private residence where anything can and, ususally, does happen.

153 This would not reduce the amount of drinking. Instead, it would increase drinking Nov 26, 2012 10:36 AM at house parties, which are the primary cause of overconsumption.

154 Small businesses don't need anymore burdensome regulation. Let them make Nov 26, 2012 10:20 AM money and create jobs.

155 I think Boulder is a great place to have a business during the year and a very Nov 26, 2012 10:12 AM difficult place to have a business during the summer and on university breaks. In these difficult financial times, placing additional restrictions on Boulder businesses would cause even more difficulties and more aversely affect our local economy.

156 All this does is hurt business income making it harder for them to make money Nov 26, 2012 10:04 AM and jobs, which is especially hurtful in a college town where many students need

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work to pay bills.

157 While I support the changes, I would NOT want the impact to be that MORE Nov 26, 2012 9:42 AM students who are 21 or older are hosting parties where MORE underage students can consume alcohol.

158 i feel it is more of a house party and culture problem, not changing zoning for Nov 26, 2012 9:39 AM bars or a time limit is what will really midigate this problem. more enforcement on overserving laws over higher zoning regulations.

159 I don't think this gets to the real issue of easy access, targeted deals, and culture Nov 26, 2012 9:36 AM condoning binge drinking

160 I think that it would be helpful to have more laws for the businesses that will be Nov 26, 2012 9:26 AM operating after 11 pm with alcohol.

161 I really don't feel that additional zoning rules will change behaviors. In a way, Nov 26, 2012 9:18 AM isn't it safer to keep people partying closer to where they live, rather than make them all trek down to Pearl street? You can't regulate us out of this problem. The kids are going to continue partying whether you put more cops out there, change the zoning rules, whatever.

162 These regulations seem to only affect businesses on the Hill, some of which Nov 26, 2012 8:52 AM have been in operation for quite some time. I feel this will drive those who wish to drink to Pearl St. or house parties instead. Additionally, it will have quite a negative impact on the businesses on the Hill. At a time when everyone is looking at job creation, we should not be implementing policy that will either shorten shifts or eliminate jobs altogether.

163 Only if more places were required to keep full kitchens open later...it is a big Nov 26, 2012 8:48 AM problem in Boulder that so few restaurants serve food after ..8 or 9, very few till ten.

164 Regulation is never the answer. Education is the solution to substance abuse Nov 26, 2012 8:40 AM issues.

165 there is a wide variety of places to buy alcohol after 11pm, and the areas where Nov 26, 2012 8:15 AM congestion or other problems occur is known and limited, no need to regulate everyone here

166 I don't think the problem is with businesses that sell alcohol or operate after 11 Nov 26, 2012 7:31 AM pm. I think the problem comes from house parties with minors.

167 This seems like it would significantly hurt many small businesses in Boulder. Nov 26, 2012 5:28 AM Additionally negatively impacting the gear food and beverage culture that has been built over the years.

168 Less concentration on the Hill Nov 26, 2012 4:13 AM

169 I do not support additional zoning regulations for businesses that serve alcohol Nov 26, 2012 4:04 AM after 11 pm because I have worked at an establishment for two years and have had very few incidents related to alcohol. We serve alcohol until 1:45 am, but all of our staff is highly trained and educated on how much to serve, signs of

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intoxication of those entering the restaurant as well as while serving, checking id's, when to cut people off, and the risks that are involved in serving customers. Our managements has played a huge role in educating our employees as well as the city. As long as people know what they are doing and take their job seriously there should not be any issues.

170 College Students GREATLY appreciate alcohol more when it is cheaper. While Nov 26, 2012 1:28 AM most people don't truly appreciate alcohol for what it is (and abuse it), it is a part of our life that aspiring college students greatly enjoy. I believe that if the price a student must pay to receive alcohol was raised, these students (a large population of the Boulder community) will be happy

171 The regulations are unnecessary. Nov 26, 2012 12:32 AM

172 You will destroy boulder's friendly and welcoming atmosphere that the nightlife Nov 26, 2012 12:02 AM provides

173 Absolutely not. Penalizing the very businesses that are able to regulate any Nov 25, 2012 9:18 PM perceived issue with overconsumption is ludicrous and will only hurt our businesses at a time when we should be doing everything in our power to help them.

174 Current regulations are already too strict Nov 25, 2012 8:34 PM

175 If the City of Boulder decides to target its distributors of alcohol and limits them, Nov 25, 2012 7:56 PM then over consumption is more likely to occur in house parties. Alcohol over consumption would increase without monitoring from businesses, and the purpose of this zoning regulation would ultimately be hindered.

176 I feel that it prohibits a lot of local business, which supports all of the city. If you Nov 25, 2012 6:50 PM cut down a place's main revenue, then the entire city suffers from the loss of sales tax.

177 The school profits enough from unnecessary m.i.ps the cops don't do anything Nov 25, 2012 6:16 PM but break up fights that sent serious and ruin kids college with drinking tickets

178 It would be unjust to punish businesses, and build a hurdle for their Nov 25, 2012 6:01 PM development, simply because their have been instances of over consumption in Boulder. The main problem that should be focused on is house parties where students drink too much, not businesses where drinking is legal and regulated.

179 Why hurt the local business owners. It is the residents responsibility not to over Nov 25, 2012 5:58 PM consume

180 Not only would this have a negative affect on beloved local businesses, but more Nov 25, 2012 2:40 PM importantly it would not have an effect on the number of residents or students who over consumed alcohol. Being a student myself, I can tell you that 11 pm is plenty of time for residents to purchase alcohol from liquor stores, so this would only really affect businesses and bars that are controlled environments anyway, therefore creating more harm than good.

181 If bars in the boulder area closed earlier, the students and others would just Nov 25, 2012 2:14 PM retreat back to their residences which would then disturb those who are not out.

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Having people at the bars at least keeps the noise and location controlled

182 Not sure. On one hand, bartenders can regulate the activities of those in the bar Nov 25, 2012 2:08 PM and if bars were open later, people might be less likely to go out after since 11 is extremely early.

183 Changing the regulations for places like The Sink would impact the business and Nov 25, 2012 1:57 PM the campus negatively. The Sink is widely known as a place for students to drink on their 21st birthdays and get inexpensive drinks at.

184 I do not believe it will help with alcohol consumption, people will just find other, Nov 25, 2012 1:44 PM most likly unsafe places to drink. All it will do is hurt businesses.

185 These laws would cause enrollment to drop, which is bad for everyone. Nov 25, 2012 11:35 AM

186 that could potentially put historic businesses and ones that have been here a Nov 25, 2012 10:17 AM long time out of business

187 Freedom of a business to operate as it so pleases Nov 25, 2012 9:33 AM

188 This will move any activities to private residences that will create a larger amount Nov 25, 2012 9:13 AM of trash in my neighborhood. Limiting operating hours is simply a vote for more trash and over consumption of alcohol. At bars, students are at least monitored by bar tenders and bouncers that can call ambulances if needed. That's something Gordie Bailey did not have.

189 Problem isn't really the businesses Nov 25, 2012 8:46 AM

190 Putting regulations on alcohol sales would damage historic businesses like the Nov 24, 2012 6:34 PM Sink that have been here for so many years. All of these businesses already have such a close eye on who they allow to drink within their establishments, so there should be no restrictions on what they sell.

191 Let people live their lives. Nov 24, 2012 5:19 PM

192 Ultimately, if a particular business in Boulder which sells alcohol after 11pm is Nov 24, 2012 3:19 PM problematic in some regard then we should identify a specific problem with that business and decide how best to address it. For example, if a bar emits excess noise or if their patrons are obnoxious then police should focus on those types of establishments. However, in attempting to regulate all bars which serve liquor after 11pm, many business owners who own/will own unproblematic establishments may be unfairly burdened.

193 Additional zoning would limit revenue generated by local business. Nov 24, 2012 12:58 PM

194 I don't see any reason to further legally restrict alcohol sales after 11pm. Nov 24, 2012 12:32 PM

195 Additional prohibition and restriction of alcohol will not significantly impact Nov 24, 2012 11:56 AM drinking habits of minors, while introducing hardship for businesses and adult consumers.

196 Stop regulating things. Nov 23, 2012 11:17 PM

197 don't punish people for other peoples complaints on other people Nov 23, 2012 9:41 PM

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198 It will only decrease revenue and cause an uproar amongst the population of Nov 23, 2012 9:15 PM boulder

199 I do not think that there need to be additional regulations. Nov 23, 2012 9:11 PM

200 already strict enough. Nov 23, 2012 8:46 PM

201 Additional regulations that result in fewer businesses being opened would Nov 23, 2012 8:29 PM inconvenience people who need to purchase alcohol after 11 p.m.

202 It is not fair to reduce access to alcohol for people who use it responsibly. If you Nov 23, 2012 8:23 PM want to reduce litter, noise, etc., then address those problems directly.

203 Businesses do not need more regulations. Regulating your alcohol intake is a Nov 23, 2012 7:17 PM personal responsibility.

204 Bars and restaurants acts as a safe place for 21+ adults and students to have Nov 23, 2012 6:51 PM fun and safely consume alcohol. Going to a bar at 11 pm seems like the safer option than walking around the hill from house party to house party where the alcohol is unregulated.

205 Put your grubby little litigating hands elsewhere. Nov 23, 2012 6:29 PM

206 I feel that unsafe drinking practices overlap the private and public arenas where Nov 23, 2012 6:18 PM alcohol may be present. Not specifically limited to public institutions which serve alcohol.

207 Although sometime unsafe, people will get get alcohol and keep drinking no Nov 23, 2012 5:20 PM matter the time.

208 The city or the BLA must monitor bad alcohol serving establishments, and play a Nov 23, 2012 4:22 PM part in re-writing management plans of those establishments. Police enforcement should increase, and in doing so, more police officers need to be hired.

209 This would negatively impact historic Boulder businesses. It would ruin the Nov 23, 2012 3:06 PM Colorado Buffalo game day experience for students, alumni, and fans.

210 They are adequate.1 Nov 23, 2012 2:36 PM

211 Hurts city tax incomes and destroys something that has been a part of boulder Nov 23, 2012 2:02 PM history for the last 40 years

212 Businesses should be able to sell alcohol whenever they choose. This is a Nov 23, 2012 1:51 PM capitalist country founded on personal freedoms and those regulations go against both

213 I don't think the government has any right telling people when and where they Nov 23, 2012 10:41 AM can buy anything. I disapprove of all zoning laws.

214 It's unfair to incoming and existing businesses that because of the greed of a Nov 23, 2012 10:29 AM very select few that their chances of succeeding are vastly cut down.

215 It's not the city's place to tell people how to live. Certainly the city shouldn't stiffle Nov 23, 2012 9:38 AM

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small businesses and competition by makong it impossible for anyone to compete with those who already have a license.

216 If history has shown us anything it's that the more you regulate the worse the Nov 22, 2012 11:14 PM situation gets. I believe that the city of Boulder is right where it should be with regards to alcohol overconsumption; it happens, but rarely does it truly hurt someone. And more regulation, especially in the few places where alcohol consumption is legal, will only force more people to drink out of sight, where the real damage of overconsumption can occur.

217 Absolutely not. The issue is not the over-consumption of alcohol in restaurants, Nov 22, 2012 7:25 PM but at house parties and other residential venues. My personal opinion is that the Hill is an absolute cesspit after 9:00 PM, but this is strictly due to the fraternities and concentration of liberal arts students, not because of the bar scene. To the contrary, one of the few bar scenes in Boulder for ages 21-24 is that of the Hill. The idea of imposing additional zoning regulations on businesses seems incredibly arbitrary, and would not work to address the real issues at hand.

218 Do not add regulations, Boulder already has enough regulations Nov 22, 2012 12:50 PM

219 This is absolutely ridiculous. You would be greatly affecting local businesses Nov 21, 2012 10:29 PM without alleviating the problem. If prohibition didn't stop the consumption of alcohol, do you really think this will? Furthermore, it would be a flagrant restriction of civil liberties to those of us who work late and would like to responsibly have a drink after 11pm. If this actually passes, this town's economy will go to hell.

220 Basically, that just drives more drinking into private houses. Nov 21, 2012 8:48 PM

221 I don't mind restaurants staying open late and selling (more expensive) alcohol, Nov 21, 2012 8:20 PM but I would like to see bars stop selling alcohol early or perhaps increase the price of drinks by $1 after 11pm, by $2 after midnight, etc. The extra money/tax could be collected by the city for neighborhood services (e.g., installation of weekend port-o-potties in nearby neighborhoods, payouts to neighbors whose cars are vandalized).

222 The problem is with how people act after leaving a business, not with the hours Nov 21, 2012 5:01 PM or locations of the businesses themselves.

223 Stay out of people's lives. Educate--yes. Regulate--no. Nov 21, 2012 4:03 PM

224 More regulations don't solve problems, they only harass local businesses Nov 21, 2012 3:42 PM

225 There is little good that comes from buying, selling, consuming alcohol late at Nov 21, 2012 3:31 PM night.

226 As a student leader on campus, I can say that the proposed policies will push Nov 21, 2012 1:40 PM students to drink more heavily at house patiea before leaving for locations on pearl and cause some students to simply have parties at home. From experience, these are the most dangerous drinking situations affecting students because they almost always lead to binge drinking. Extra regulations will cause these dangerous situation to be more prevalent.

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227 I work at a small establishment that currenty serves alcohol on the hill after 11 Nov 21, 2012 1:34 PM p.m. and the customers are watched very closely for over consumption. I believe all new zoning would do is drive out small business and only make it affordable for larger corporations.

228 I don't really think late-night businesses are the problem. It seems to me that Nov 21, 2012 1:34 PM tighter restrictions around these businesses would lead to an increase in over- consumption at house parties, where alcohol is cheaper and more accessible than at a bar.

229 I don't think penalizing the businesses (or destroying them, as the City of Nov 21, 2012 1:25 PM Boulder seems to want to do, and has done) is the way to fix the problem. Educating those who do the over consumption will fix it.

230 not sure but I could not choose that Nov 21, 2012 1:18 PM

231 No there shouldn't be zoning restrictions- alcohol servers, if properly trained, Nov 21, 2012 12:26 PM won't over-serve their patrons.

232 I believe that the current framework of zoning and Land use regulates these Nov 21, 2012 12:00 PM businesses effectively and any additional rules could have a negative impact on land values and property rights. Those effects may hurt businesses and City economically.

233 The business environment for operating a restaurant in Boulder is already Nov 21, 2012 11:05 AM difficult and adding additional regulation will just harm this further.

234 If by additional you aren't going to screw all of these businesses who are well Nov 21, 2012 10:03 AM loved and established and only rezone NEW businesses, then Yes I see it's validity. Don't punish the existing businesses though.

235 I don't think the bars are the problem. Bartenders cut you off when you've had Nov 21, 2012 9:51 AM too much, friends do not (at house parties).

236 I don't think the businesses are the problem. Nov 21, 2012 9:46 AM

237 Let the businesses regulate themselves. If they fail to meet safe regulations then Nov 21, 2012 9:32 AM the city can step in and regulate specific businesses, not the entire area.

238 Time shouldn't create zoning regulations. People get more drunk on game days Nov 21, 2012 9:30 AM and there's no zoning regulations during the daytime on gamedays.

239 You would be targetting businesses that are not the root of the problem. All Nov 21, 2012 9:10 AM college towns have students that drink too much, focus on getting the university to perform outreach. Then if you have time address the issue of homeless with addictions in far North Boulder.

240 I don't know what the regs. are currently so cannot answer this question with Nov 21, 2012 9:07 AM enough knowledge

241 This is a party town, get that through your head or leave. Nov 21, 2012 4:43 AM

242 It is fine how it is now. Nov 21, 2012 1:29 AM

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243 please see above Nov 20, 2012 11:53 PM

244 There is no substantive evidence that zoning regulations have any correlative Nov 20, 2012 11:19 PM (much less causal) relationship to the topic at hand. The leading nature of this survey is inexcusable.

245 Things are working fine they way they are. A lot of these businesses are small Nov 20, 2012 11:18 PM businesses and if they cannot sell alcohol the way that they are use to, they will lose business and potentially lose customers. Alcohol sales are a huge deal when it come to bars and restaurants, I know, I work in a sports bar.

246 It's going to happen whether or not you add more government. People will find a Nov 20, 2012 11:11 PM way around the rules (ie: when alcohol was banned from Folsom Field, people compensated by drinking more before they arrived at the stadium.)

247 There is no significant problem businesses should be able to operate with Nov 20, 2012 10:26 PM freedom. What wer talking about is if people should have the opportunity to open a small business capitalize.

248 What do you think that is going to do? Stop gentrifying Boulder. Nov 20, 2012 8:49 PM

249 Absolutely not. The residents surrounding the University Hill businesses are Nov 20, 2012 8:35 PM primarily students who do not mind the nightlife in their neighborhood. As of now, these businesses are located in one area of the neighborhood. Closing these businesses will not stop the "drinking culture" of Boulder. Closing these businesses early will just encourage the former bar patrons will to throw more house parties. An increase of house parties will create more noise and easy access to alcohol for minors. Ones that chose to still go to bars will just go to bars in other parts of town. This can cause other bars to become rowdier. In other words these regulations will just drive the over-exaggerated problem underground or elsewhere.

250 The Hill is a vibrant part of the culture at CU and half of the students are over 21. Nov 20, 2012 8:28 PM In college towns around the country there are always college bars near or on campus. Discriminating against the Hill because it is the area where most students reside is unfair and hurts the University. CU Boulder prides itself on being located in the best college town in the country and the city should not be trying to restrict this area just because it is where the student community comes together.

251 Restricting sales of alcohol will hurt local business and do little to curtail student Nov 20, 2012 8:04 PM drinking. Students will get drunk if they want to. Restricting alcohol sales

252 Again, it is not right for the city of Boulder to impose stricter regulations on Nov 20, 2012 7:22 PM businesses selling alcohol to persons over the age of 21.

253 Business are already being over regulated on The HIll in comparison to Pearl Nov 20, 2012 7:22 PM street leaving unfair business advantages

254 Keep them in close proximity to each other and you will keep individuals from Nov 20, 2012 7:18 PM driving far distances.

255 I've been in Boulder for five years and gotten to know many of the owners, Nov 20, 2012 7:05 PM

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servers and bartenders on the hill, and they all care very deeply about their reputations and upkeep. They are respectful of the law and don't bend rules in their favor.

256 I think this is just a way to protect the school's image and tarnish local Nov 20, 2012 7:05 PM businesses that rely on the sale of alcohol.

257 That is plain ridiculous and will VERY negatively impact businesses. We're in an Nov 20, 2012 7:01 PM economic crisis here, business should be celebrated and supported (safely).

258 Residents have the right to privacy...including being free from noise after a Nov 20, 2012 6:55 PM certain time.

259 The only thing this does is hurt local businesses and funnel alcohol consumption Nov 20, 2012 6:49 PM into closed doors houses and apartments. Given that the vast majority of alcohol consumption related deaths happen in residences, this is wildly irresponsible. No bartender anywhere would ever allow a patron to drink straight from a vodka bottle, as they could be liable for over-serving. Yet this type of behaviour occurs in private residences when all of the alcohol needs to be consumed indoors.

260 People who own other property or businesses in the city shall not be determining Nov 20, 2012 6:43 PM the fates of other businesses. I believe personal bias and corruption is rampant on City boards, and this chase is meant to close businesses on the hill to drive up land values on the hill and run students out. Thus privileged individuals gain, students lose because they drunk drive to Pearl more, and employees are laid off from The Sink, K's, Half Fast etc. The Elite gain while everyone else loses

261 I think that having bars in The Hill, where many students live, is actually safer for Nov 20, 2012 6:38 PM their drinking habits than going all the way to Pearl Street.

262 It would RUIN the business!!! These kids are in college, let them have their Nov 20, 2012 6:37 PM college bars!

263 I think the timing that most liquor stores close at (11:45 or so) is a perfect time. I Nov 20, 2012 6:34 PM think it is okay for places like specific restaurants or bars to sell alcohol past that time since that has been how it is for a long time.

264 Fuck regulation - keep the economy turning Nov 20, 2012 6:34 PM

265 The city is that of the people's and the city government should enforce the laws Nov 20, 2012 6:25 PM of the city and state and not create new laws where problems do not exist that cannot be managed through enforcement of existing law.

266 Depends on what the zoning regulations are. Without knowing, I am unwilling to Nov 20, 2012 6:21 PM commit to supporting them at this time.

267 Why would the zoning applying to only certain businesses who serve alcohol be Nov 20, 2012 6:13 PM changed now, just because a select group of older residents wish to enforce their discrimination on the business and lifestyles of their neighbors?

268 It would just cause more problems Nov 20, 2012 6:11 PM

269 Again, stop trying to restrict business. Address the culture. Nov 20, 2012 6:11 PM

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270 this would be bad for businesses Nov 20, 2012 6:09 PM

271 People will find other ways to drink alcohol. Simply restricting businesses will Nov 20, 2012 6:07 PM only hurt these small businesses.

272 Bars are the safest place to drink! Stop trolling with all of the bullshit bureaucracy Nov 20, 2012 6:04 PM that chokes small business and commercial profits just because some stupid kids can't handle themselves. If people want to get black-out wasted they are going to find a way to do it regardless if bars are open or not.

273 while certain bars certainly deserve to be shut down, namely the goose, i think Nov 20, 2012 6:03 PM this would negatively impact growth of legitimate and respectful businesses in boulder, and would even hamper the economy. a different approach of enforcement and education needs to be taken.

274 Non-students of Boulder knew what they were getting into when they moved into Nov 20, 2012 6:03 PM a college town. They should suck it up and stop complaining.

275 Alcoholism is an issue worldwide. Zoning laws will not stop alcohol consumption, Nov 20, 2012 6:02 PM proper rehabilitation will.

276 Boulder has for a very long time a unique and powerful reputation associated Nov 20, 2012 5:54 PM with it. Is is always a positive one? No. However that being said...altering so drastically rules and regulations in the ways being looked at will result in a very strict and long term negative impact. What makes Boulder Boulder is its uniqueness and libertarian attitude about so much. Its what drew me to it for 2 years while I attended college there and its what still makes me want to come back. More regulations are the last thing this country needs. Boulder's problems...at least those related to alcohol consumption are nothing new to any unique similar type enclave anywhere in the United States. As a college town none of these issues are new either....

277 They pay their taxes, and the city collects and benefits off the revenue. If they Nov 20, 2012 5:51 PM are providing a service that people want and need I see no reason for any restrictions that could hinder the free market and a business from succeeding. Over regulation killed Laus taco shop on the hill, their is no question about that.

278 Though certain zoning permits and 3 year reviews are not a bad idea, so much Nov 20, 2012 5:50 PM of the proposed zoning is set to kill alcohol sales and consumption on the hill in either restaurants or taverns. This does absolutely no good to the majority of the students that live in this neighborhood. In fact, it harms the young people. It encourages more people driving, and traveling away from there residences to drink, and it encourages more unsupervised, truly dangerous house parties. In fact, it only really satisfies the minority of residents that are not involved with the university, as it gives them an easy target/enemy to a difficult problem, and that is underage drinking.

279 I believe most of the over consumption problems are from younger drinkers who Nov 20, 2012 5:48 PM are not even aloud in businesses that serve alcohol

280 Current laws are sufficiengt Nov 20, 2012 5:48 PM

281 why punish the local business Nov 20, 2012 5:45 PM

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282 I think if binge drinking or over consumption is happening in Boulder, it is Nov 20, 2012 5:43 PM predominantly among younger college students and mostly within private residences. I do not think enforcing regulations on businesses that are enjoyed by people other than young college students would solve this problem. I would suggest instead an educational campaign aimed at late teens that helps them to gage how much is too much.

283 There is no reason to add additional zoning regulations. Boulder is a college Nov 20, 2012 5:42 PM town that is practically run by college students. The city would be nothing without the school and its students. Therefore, there is no reason to punish the college culture.

284 This is only going to hurt small businesses that rely heavily on late night sales, Nov 20, 2012 5:39 PM whether it be food, alcohol or both.

285 Leave the bars alone they are a cornerstone of boulder nightlife and the old Nov 20, 2012 5:39 PM people who have problems should not move into homes next to bars

286 I support increased police presence, but I do not support hurting businesses. Nov 20, 2012 5:36 PM There without a doubt too much alcohol consumption in Boulder that is threatening the safety of its residents; however, Boulder is a college town and placing the blame on businesses is not just.

287 There isn't a problem. Nov 20, 2012 5:36 PM

288 I think that the current regulations work fine the way that they are. Nov 20, 2012 5:36 PM

289 i believe that there is a group of home owners on the hill that want to get rid of Nov 20, 2012 5:35 PM the college lifestyle for financial gain.

290 this is America! Nov 20, 2012 5:33 PM

291 it wouldnt change the fact that people overconsume in private residences..theyd Nov 20, 2012 5:32 PM just buy their alcohol earlier

292 The problem of over consumption does not lie in the concentrated areas that Nov 20, 2012 5:32 PM house the bars and restaurants that open past 11pm (The Hill and downtown Boulder). These regulations would ultimately hurt the Boulder city economy and are unnecessary.

293 Make it 2 am and I see no problem. Nov 20, 2012 5:31 PM

294 The Hill is fine. It shuts down early and is a great early night/happy hour spot. Nov 20, 2012 5:31 PM Half Fast is awesome.

295 regulations will create less safe environments for drinking and cause more of the Nov 20, 2012 5:31 PM issues these restrictions are attempting to avoid

296 What a bad idea. People will drink whether they can in businesses or at their Nov 20, 2012 5:30 PM own private residences. Please do NOT do anything that will increase noisy/unsafe parties. With the city of Boulder police now regulating noise, response times can be well over an hour currently. Just imagine what a nightmare for residents that will be if parties increase 10fold due to bars being restricted. Keep Bars open!

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297 If the city wants to regulate the places that's fine, but they should still be allowed Nov 20, 2012 5:29 PM to operate and sell liquor if they have the proper liquor license

298 Don't turn this into a "footloose" type town. Prohibition is also over, it has been Nov 20, 2012 5:29 PM for decades.

299 I am against changing the zoning regulations to restrict alcohol sales. Putting Nov 20, 2012 5:27 PM more stress on local businesses will not solve the issue of college students over drinking.

300 nobody goes out until 10 pm anyways. that would be detrimental to businesses. Nov 20, 2012 5:27 PM Also it would support consumption in a private, unsupervised environment where consumption is not controlled

301 that is preposterous. Nov 20, 2012 5:23 PM

302 Its a college town with young people. The the students enjoy their youth. Nov 20, 2012 5:22 PM

303 This seems like a targetted approach to restrict 2 or 3 businesses on the hill. Nov 20, 2012 5:21 PM

304 Alcohol overconsumption is not the result of business behaviors, it's the result of Nov 20, 2012 5:09 PM cultural issues that need to be addressed through education and community outreach. Further regulation and zoning is not the answer.

305 It all depends. If this is dictating what types of alcohol they can serve, then I Nov 20, 2012 5:08 PM would say no. However, if this limits to amount of alcohol they can serve, the number of alcoholic drinks they can serve, the types of security they need, and the number of staff and management that need to be on site, then I would be more likely to say yes. It really comes down to whether the right regulations are created and whether they have the capacity to be enforced.

306 I can't believe I even have to explain this. If people honestly think this is an issue Nov 20, 2012 1:50 PM then the federal government might as well mandate every college campus in America enact a similar policy. Or how about we outlaw alcohol if its such a problem? Is it just students that are the problem? I think this issue is being approached in all the wrong ways.

307 I believe zoning is neither an appropriate nor likely successful avenue through Nov 20, 2012 8:52 AM which to tackle over-consumption of alcohol.

308 This would be an unnecessary regulation that has an anti business, anti free Nov 19, 2012 8:26 PM market smell to it.

309 Can't discriminate against only restaurants on the hill. Nov 19, 2012 7:41 PM

310 I don't agree with putting undue stress on businesses that already have much to Nov 19, 2012 6:10 PM worry about. Like I said earlier, I feel the bars and restaurants do a generally good job watching how much their patrons are consuming. All you're going to do with some of these changes is make it more difficult for owners and managers by reducing their business, and potentially putting people out of work over it. Times are tough already. I don't believe blanket regulations towards the places that are responsible with their service is going to solve your problem. Let's be honest here, the problem is students drinking on the hill. It is a problem that you will

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never be able to solve. This is a college town, and as long as you have hundreds of people in their twenties away from home for the first time and on their own, you will have a problem with alcohol consumption. Even if you went as far as to close every business on the hill students would still have house parties every weekend and you would still experience a lot of the same things that you experience now. Fact: Students do not care about your regulations.

311 Boulder already has some of the most onerous zoning regulations in the nation. Nov 19, 2012 5:22 PM We don't need to make it even harder to do business here and punish the 99% of people who don't cause a problem due to the behavior of just a few.

312 It only brings more money to boulder business. Nov 19, 2012 5:12 PM

313 absolutely, including a review of those businesses like Bacaro that have been Nov 19, 2012 3:30 PM mistakenly given a 2.am liquor license. It really shoul dbe revoked.

314 Zoning regulations will do nothing to address the issue of over consumption Nov 19, 2012 1:23 PM because those establishments currently serving alcohol after 11:00 are not responsible for individual's decision. The issue is in education and awareness for young adults.

315 I initially answered "yes" to this question, but I think the source of the problems Nov 19, 2012 1:23 PM really lie elsewhere. Existing laws/ordinances about noise, trash, and vandalism could be enforced much better, especially when it comes to residential house parties. These "residents" (usually CU students) don't have much respect for their properties or neighbors.

316 Businesses that sell alcohol are in a position to regulate the consumption. If you Nov 19, 2012 1:11 PM "send it underground" the problem will only intensify.

317 This limits the amount of revenue to the city and state. As well as reducing the Nov 19, 2012 12:56 PM amount of civil liberties.

318 depends on circumstances Nov 19, 2012 12:54 PM

319 I'm sure the current zoning laws are appropriate. Nov 19, 2012 12:53 PM

320 No, let's just enforce the laws that are already on the books and that means for Nov 18, 2012 10:04 PM businesses that cater to college students and businesses that cater to the non- student population.

321 I find it appalling that Boulder allows owners of one drinking establishment to be Nov 18, 2012 7:30 PM on the Liquor Board and thus make decisions to restrict the business opportunities of another drinking establishment. This is a definite conflict of interest.

322 I think it's important to residents to have stricter regulations that promote respect Nov 18, 2012 6:48 PM and responsibility

323 I dont think restrictions like this will address any problems that currently exist. Nov 18, 2012 4:05 PM

324 As I've stated previously, I do not believe the problem of overconsumption stems Nov 18, 2012 3:19 PM from businesses selling alcohol/operating after 11PM. I believe the problem lies in overconsumption at private homes. In fact, I believe that

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disallowing/regulating the sale of alcohol at public businesses will in fact encourage drunken patrons to simply return to private homes, where their consumption of alcohol isn't regulated.

325 Partying students is a part of the town. I have always found the police to be Nov 18, 2012 1:47 PM prompt and professional when called to deal with a party that is out of control. That part of the system works. Drinking at bars is the most controlled area already.

326 This is silly and unnecessary legislation. Nov 18, 2012 1:28 PM

327 Zoning code should not be used to attempt to impact over consumption of Nov 18, 2012 11:43 AM alcohol.

328 The kids will find a way to drink one way or another. Creating more restrictions Nov 18, 2012 9:43 AM on business seems more like punishing business vs. The over consumers for their behavior.

329 This would be very detrimental to a number of businesses. Nov 18, 2012 8:55 AM

330 A business has the right to use its license within the law, law is already stated. Nov 18, 2012 12:50 AM No further acts required by the government

331 It is the drinkers that need to change their behavior. Nov 17, 2012 10:41 PM

332 Additional zoning regulations arent necessary. Nov 17, 2012 8:56 PM

333 But I don't think bars within 500' of campus is the issue. Nov 17, 2012 7:58 PM

334 It's unnecessary. Nov 17, 2012 7:14 PM

335 This would upset a lot of people city-wide that seems very unnecessary. Nov 17, 2012 6:00 PM

336 I believe that there is a value to the Boulder economy brought by the hill bars. Nov 17, 2012 5:49 PM Also, I believe that a late night restriction is not the right way to accomplish the goals as the problem times are more closely related to CU sporting events and holidays.

337 It'll drive down revenues for the city. Nov 17, 2012 5:40 PM

338 Busninesses are struggling enough without putting added burdens on them!!!!! Nov 17, 2012 4:27 PM

339 These small businesses help the hill thrive popularity wise, economically, and Nov 17, 2012 2:15 PM are a place for everyone in boulder to relax.

340 I would be interested in knowing what the 'regulations' are before I commit to Nov 17, 2012 12:48 PM supporting them.

341 Boulder House. Walnut Street. Cut back on alcohol serving after 11 Nov 17, 2012 10:31 AM pm.

342 We don't need to put anymore restrictions on the business owners who are Nov 17, 2012 10:14 AM running their businesses here and bringing in valuable tax dollars.

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343 Additional zoning regulations are NOT going to keep teenagers/20 somethings Nov 17, 2012 9:37 AM from drinking alcohol. Penalizing businesses will just drive business out of Boulder.

344 I think the zoning is strick enough. Nov 17, 2012 9:28 AM

345 People buy houses on the Hill then complain about the noise. That is like buying Nov 17, 2012 7:14 AM a house near the airport and then complaining. New laws are NOT the answer. Boulder used to be such a free place.

346 If this question means who I support bars to sell alcohol after 11 then the answer Nov 17, 2012 4:20 AM is yes

347 The city must not try to over regulate and control too much such as alcohol use Nov 16, 2012 10:37 PM in the city. We have enough laws for this subject already.

348 I would support 24 hour operations being available so that there is not a specific Nov 16, 2012 10:18 PM concentrated time for alcohol consumption.

349 Need to keep the integrity of the businesses, regardless of the fact that they sell Nov 16, 2012 7:53 PM alcohol. #supportbars

350 More regulation in Boulder is not going to diminish any perceptions that there is Nov 16, 2012 7:33 PM a problem with alcohol in the Hill area.

351 It wouldn't change anything except how much money people would spend on the Nov 16, 2012 7:23 PM hill. Additional zoning regulations will drive the best businesses away from the hill, a long with a noticeable amount of tax revenue.

352 Though I'm unsure whether this would truly curb the residential problems. Nov 16, 2012 6:31 PM Concentrating the drinking in bars, in business districts, seems like the smartest plan.

353 I don't believe that the businesses are forcing the kids to over consume. If they Nov 16, 2012 6:26 PM want to party, the party will move somewhere else, but it won't leave Boulder via prohibition legislation.

354 I would have to know what the zoning regulations were! Nov 16, 2012 6:25 PM

355 The businesses have the ability to regulate how much they serve and to whom. I Nov 16, 2012 6:24 PM think regulating the housing on The Hill would help. Housing is slumlord style and is over priced and there are too many residents in each house. It is not uncommon to see more than a dozen students living in a house. Many cities regulate this by having a rule of no more than four unrelated people in a house.

356 That's ridiculous. Nov 16, 2012 5:55 PM

357 An 11 o'clock alcohol "closing time" would have a severe negative impact on Nov 16, 2012 5:49 PM businesses--repositioning Boulder from a vital, lively community to a stogy, boring, out-of-touch hick town. This could have an immediate and long-tern detrimental impact on keeping and attracting businesses to Boulder--not to mention reduced tax income in a time where every dollar counts.

358 MAKE THE PENALTY FOR UNDER AGE DRINKING AND PUBLIC Nov 16, 2012 5:33 PM

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DRUNKENNESS A FINE FOR THE PERSON DOING THE DRINKING AND IF THERE PARENTS GET INVOLVED IT WILL STOP

359 It would drive more people to drink at home where there is the most risk. Nov 16, 2012 5:18 PM Business' aren't the problem, people being afraid of the police and binge drinking in houses is.

360 It will stifle the local restaurants and breweries Nov 16, 2012 5:16 PM

361 Pearl Street is known for its late night scene. Many restaurants are looking to Nov 16, 2012 5:11 PM break into the late night scene by having bands play and offering food past 10 pm. Putting additional zoning regulations only hurts those businesses trying to offer a safer, more upscale scene than that of K's china.

362 Already plenty of regulations in place Nov 16, 2012 5:05 PM

363 the restaurants/bars are the ones that have the best risk management for Nov 16, 2012 4:59 PM regulating the substance.

364 No, I believe hospitality business have been doing a great job in our community. Nov 16, 2012 4:31 PM I believe that additional zoning regulations would have a negative impact on business that have already be burdened by over regulation and a poor economy. I would not support additional regulation.

365 Putting greater costs on the businesses is reflected in prices for consumers. In Nov 16, 2012 4:25 PM an already expensive town, it would hurt the economy to further put financial strain on the consumers.

366 Free enterprise Nov 16, 2012 4:12 PM

367 Why add fees/regulations to local businesses for selling a drink after 11pm? I Nov 16, 2012 3:46 PM don't really get it. If it's drunkeness that folks are worried about, put an extra police car up on the Hill to let the wilder ones know you're serious. I think the crazier partying takes place back at college housing after the bar stuffs done for the night...

368 The state regulations are just fine. Nov 16, 2012 3:43 PM

369 I don't own any retail or wholesale business in town, but I don't see them as Nov 16, 2012 2:44 PM being related to the issue.

370 This is an excellent idea. Something must be done given the over-abundance of Nov 16, 2012 2:35 PM licensed establishments. Both drinking establishments and house parties need to be addressed together. The City has been negligent in its handling alcohol issues.

371 I don't believe there have been major issues regarding over consumption of Nov 16, 2012 2:23 PM alcohol in Boulder. You will find over consumption in any college campus and until something major occurs I believe it is regulated just fine.

372 They do enough. Nov 16, 2012 2:17 PM

373 It's a limit on legitimate commercial activity that will do little to curb drinking in Nov 16, 2012 1:53 PM Boulder, as overconsumption is most prevalent at residences and house parties.

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374 Companies are making money off of this, let the individual decide whether they Nov 16, 2012 1:32 PM want to consume excessive amounts of alcohol. The city shouldn't be limiting economic progress in a case like this where there are minor effects to the city because of overconsumption.

375 I believe Boulder's police already have ample authority to break up house parties Nov 16, 2012 1:29 PM and arrest people who are drunk and disorderly in public. Likewise, bartenders and restaurant servers already have the responsibility to deny service to people who are intoxicated. Why does a city as Democratically / democratically minded as Boulder have such a knee-jerk belief that more regulation is necessarily a good way to balance individual rights, the common good, and the economic interests of the community?

376 KEEP THE FUCKING GOVERNMENT OUT OF MY LIFE Nov 16, 2012 1:07 PM

377 I think things are fine the way they are. The hill has rules for quiet after 11 which Nov 16, 2012 1:07 PM is a good hour and the bars close at 2 which is neither late or early.

378 There are already adequate regulations. Nov 16, 2012 1:01 PM

379 Businesses are not the problem. Regulate and monitor house parties. Don't Nov 16, 2012 12:39 PM punish responsible business owners

380 Boulder already has the tools necessary to regulate alcohol. More effort should Nov 16, 2012 12:31 PM be devoted to education and community outreach. CUPD and Boulder PD have a very antagonistic relationship towards the younger community. Underage drinking should not be condoned but the city must also realize that it's a norm and how to deal with that norm is to A) acknowledge it and B) find safe avenues for underage drinkings to do the activity in.

381 This is not a problem. Nov 16, 2012 12:24 PM

382 Why do this? The Hill is a popular destination because many of the shops are Nov 16, 2012 12:21 PM open late, and because there are bars. Take that away and all you have is an empty hill with empty shops.

383 The businesses were always there and always served the student community in Nov 16, 2012 12:12 PM this way.

384 works in other cities Nov 16, 2012 11:47 AM

385 You would be putting small business owners out of business. Boulder is a Nov 16, 2012 11:17 AM college town, and college students consume alcohol regularly.

386 All businesses that sell liquor do not encourage heavy or binge drinking. Do not Nov 16, 2012 11:09 AM punish everyone.

387 regulations dont address people drinking effectively. Nov 16, 2012 11:04 AM

388 All available zoning tools should be employed to including adopting new 'use' Nov 16, 2012 10:49 AM definitions that distinguish between low intensity restaurants that serve more food than alcohol and are not open past 11 pm, and high intensity that primarily serve alcohol til 2 am. There should be 3 year renewal reviews, density spacing of late nite 'high intensity' bars, renstatement of the 500 foot rule around the CU

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campus.

389 Enforcing more regulations would just hurt the businesses that bring in a lot of Nov 16, 2012 10:47 AM money in Boulder.

390 The City of Boulder should be using its resources to solve real issues Nov 16, 2012 10:32 AM

391 The noise isn't associated with the businesses, nor really is a lot of the over- Nov 16, 2012 9:21 AM consumption. Businesses have an actual interest in not selling to obviously drunk, belligerent and intoxicated individuals, including potential legal and financial consequences.I would much prefer people to be drinking at businesses rather than un-controlled house parties, where large amounts of under-age drinking occurs.

392 Zoning and planning should not be related to liquor sales. Nov 16, 2012 9:21 AM

393 why punish restaurant owners or establishments who are following safe Nov 16, 2012 9:20 AM practices just because they sell alcohol after 11pm?

394 Closing by 200 is fine, why hurt business? I met my wife at 1130 at the Sink! Nov 16, 2012 9:18 AM President obama thinks it's a great place

395 I think it is a mistake to rezone. Crack down on fake IDs to control what is going Nov 16, 2012 8:31 AM on in the bars. There are a lot of underage college students drinking in bars.

396 I and many friends like to go out after 11 from time to time to drink moderately or Nov 16, 2012 8:07 AM not at all. I have significant issues with restricting where or when we can go out to get a drink. Particularly because I have several friends in the service industry. They don't even get out if work until that time, so not being able to hang out with them at particular places would really be not cool.

397 Appropriate enforcement of existing regs would be sufficient, i.e. if a particular Nov 16, 2012 6:51 AM establishment becomes a problem because of negligent management it should be dealt with on a case by case basis.

398 Additional zoning regulations would neither affect ones desire, nor ability to over Nov 16, 2012 12:57 AM consume.

399 Why do we need this? Nov 15, 2012 10:11 PM

400 Absolutely not. No. No. No. Nov 15, 2012 9:38 PM

401 Loss of city revenue. Nov 15, 2012 9:14 PM

402 I don't think that would solve any problems. Nov 15, 2012 8:18 PM

403 Depends what they are. Nov 15, 2012 7:42 PM

404 $1-2 alcohol "shot tax" at after 11pm establishments, regardless of the time of Nov 15, 2012 7:12 PM day. Toomey, T.L., and Wagenaar, A.C. Environmental policies to reduce college drinking: Options and research findings. Journal of Studies on Alcohol (Suppl. 14):193–205, 2002. PMID: 12022725

405 I think that additional zoning restrictions will lead students to consume alcohol in Nov 15, 2012 6:28 PM

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environments that are even less safe than where they consume now. I think if you look at European cities where alcohol use is not as frowned upon as in the US, people consume alcohol in a much more responsible way.

406 No! ... Limiting/punishing responsible citizens because of the minority is un- Nov 15, 2012 6:05 PM American

407 Leave the businesses on the hill alone. Over consumption of alcohol is a Nov 15, 2012 5:55 PM personal choice, don't punish businesses for something that is a personal decision.

408 I think that additional zoning regulations would essentially be over policing the Nov 15, 2012 5:47 PM city. If there are issues hike up the penalties.

409 I would rather see more control over house parties than businesses. Nov 15, 2012 5:26 PM

410 I think that the bars and restraunts give character to Boulder and I do not think Nov 15, 2012 5:13 PM that new zoning is necessary. I do know that my vote for comissioner and city council seats will go to towards candidates that do not focus on benign issues like the one above.

411 Regulations in Boulder are out of control. Nov 15, 2012 4:38 PM

412 The problem seems to arise from OVER SERVING bar patrons. That's not legal, Nov 15, 2012 4:36 PM but it goes on. I went out with my visiting nephew who was born in Boulder. We watched young people being served while they were obviously drunk. The servers do not care and are unprofessional. I do not believe that this is about where taverns are located, but how they are managed. Zoning will not change this culture.

413 This is unnecessary and potentially hazardous. Increased regulation will not Nov 15, 2012 4:02 PM decrease drinking/alcohol consumption. Instead, it will simply force residents to travel further to drink, increase the number of people traveling while under various levels of intoxication, make the travelers more prone to being a target of criminal or violent behavior, and generally increase the risk towards both those traveling to drink and others who share this public space with them.

414 People will always have access to alcohol. Limiting the number of places that Nov 15, 2012 4:01 PM you can go out and have a good time and get a drink will only reduce the appeal of downtown Boulder. Part of what make Boulder so much fun is the nightlife. If you don't like noise, don't live next to the night life.

415 It simply seems unnecessary. Nov 15, 2012 3:54 PM

416 You are not big brother Nov 15, 2012 3:40 PM

417 I say yes with reservation because I think bars should not serve underage Nov 15, 2012 3:25 PM drinkers and should stop serving people who have had enough--so I would support a consumption limit---but I don't think zoning regulations will do much to limit over consumption. I know that people who are not served in bars will then go back to houses in the neighborhoods and keep drinking. I don't think limiting individual consumption in bars, in and of itself, will do much to keep people from consuming too much alcohol. In some ways, it's better to have drinkers in the

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bars than in residential neighborhoods. At least in a bar, the business owner has a stake in keeping an orderly house. In the neighborhoods, nobody is watching; the police presence on my block is minimal.

418 More regulation is only going to make the problem worse Nov 15, 2012 3:12 PM

419 The late night drinking compounds the problems of noise, disorderly conduct, Nov 15, 2012 3:09 PM fights, drunken driving and vandalism. The later they drink, the drunker they get.

420 Boulder is over-regulated as it is. Let businesses conduct their business. We Nov 15, 2012 3:06 PM need the tax money.

421 Boulder is a college town, there are already laws in place that protect students. Nov 15, 2012 3:02 PM The businesses that are being targeted are no where near the part of the Hill that receives most of the impact

422 I think the laws in place now should be inforced better. I think that buisness Nov 15, 2012 2:56 PM shouldn't suffer because some kids don't know how to handle themselves.

423 It is fine how it is, people over 21 are allowed to drink in public at these bars and Nov 15, 2012 2:50 PM restaurants

424 No, that is completely absurd. The bars on the hill are already regulated and Nov 15, 2012 2:46 PM undoubtedly keep the consumption under control. As an employee at The Sink, when one of us sees over-consumption possibly taking place we immediately correct the situation. There is absolutely no need for further regulations.

425 University Hill should be dealt with uniquely--reinstate a 500 foot rule--serve only Nov 15, 2012 2:26 PM beer and wine and close by 11pm--as any true restaurant would do. This would prevent abuse of process by restaurants that inevitably turn into late night bars-- as this is the most lucrative business model--selling shots of vodka, etc.

426 This can only harm businesses and their employees, and in this economy that Nov 15, 2012 2:23 PM should be our last recourse.

427 Bars and businesses are not the problem. Other cities have virtually no late night Nov 15, 2012 2:21 PM rules (New Orleans?) and have less problems. It's about the housing not the businesses and bars.

428 Prohibition was overturned for a reason. I can see even greater problems arising Nov 15, 2012 2:14 PM from additional zoning regulations.

429 Regulations are already too tight as it is. Nov 15, 2012 2:10 PM

430 If you eliminated bar closing time there wouldn't be a rush for people to drink Nov 15, 2012 2:05 PM around 2am. Allow alcohol sales 24/7 and you will eliminate problems with over consumption.

431 Local businesses will lose a great deal of revenue if new zoning regulations are Nov 15, 2012 2:01 PM implemented.

432 We have laws in place to control this already and do not need more regulation Nov 15, 2012 1:57 PM

433 the less available, the less difficulty. Alcohol induced brain damage is Nov 15, 2012 1:54 PM

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especially prevalent in the young.

434 the less available, the less difficulty. Alcohol induced brain damage is Nov 15, 2012 1:54 PM especially prevalent in the young.

435 Requiring that the kitchen serve food until 30 min before closing and stricter Nov 15, 2012 1:51 PM rules re serving intoxicated patrons

436 this is disciminatory - souces of over-consumption are not relegated to on- Nov 15, 2012 1:48 PM premise businesses. Private parties - especially ones where under-age kids participate - are the largest issue.

437 It's ridiculous that bars close at 2 already. Wy add more regulations and make Nov 15, 2012 1:46 PM them go out of business because of all of these ridiculous policies?

438 why does the majority of residents and visitors have to be impacted by the Nov 15, 2012 1:41 PM actions of a few clearly defined groups of abusers? Insist that CU increase penalties for arrests for public drunkenness- dismissal from school for at least one term on first offense and heavy fines imposed by the City. jail terms for those that can't pay fines--including the homeless. 60-90 days with a work component attached; they can clean up along the creek path and the homeless camps. You cannot legislate morality, but you can surely punish immorality-- make it unpleasant to be publicly drunk, and if after 2 or 3 arrests, the person persists, try harsher sentences.

439 it is an unfair practice to allow some businesses to sell alcohol after 11 and Nov 15, 2012 1:28 PM others not. The city should follow the state law on this and allow any business that wants to, including those who have liquor licenses to stay open for whatever hours are allowed within state law as long as the business owner feels it is financially equitable.

440 Most bars would want to operate after 11 pm. There's alot of business to be Nov 15, 2012 1:27 PM made after that time. I would expect all businesses that primarily want to sell alcohol to have to be open then to turn a profit.

441 I think the problem stems from the University population, the general community Nov 15, 2012 1:12 PM should not be restricted.

442 It is not fair to these businesses and owners, many of them who have spent their Nov 15, 2012 1:07 PM life savings on their enterprise, to suffer because you have chosen to live in an area where students reside.

443 How about trying to enforce the rules that already exist. Nov 15, 2012 1:00 PM

444 Check the police log for Uni Hill. Most of the calls occur between 10 PM and 3 Nov 15, 2012 12:47 PM AM, and most of them are alcohol related. Close earlier, and the calls go down.

445 I do not believe over consumption is an issue, therefore I do not support the Nov 15, 2012 12:44 PM additional zoning regulations for businesses that sell alcohol or operate after 11 pm.

446 i feel that there are current regulations, resources and solutions that need to be Nov 15, 2012 12:43 PM considered, improved and adopted before we consider adding additional land

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use regulations into the city's municipal code. any zoning regulations would not impact the current "problems" or existing businesses

447 Listening to the idiots who paid $1,000,000 for a house next to a collage rental is Nov 15, 2012 12:40 PM not a good idea, these people are beyond stupid and should not be given disproportionate power over the businesses in the area.

448 As noted above, the regulated venues are not the primary problem. Over- Nov 15, 2012 12:35 PM regulation there will move more drinking into private houses in mixed residential neighborhoods where there is no regulation.

449 Source of problem is not licensed businesses. Nov 15, 2012 12:34 PM

450 Regulation should be focusing on illegal consumption at house parties, not over Nov 15, 2012 12:19 PM consumption at a business. There are already laws to prevent over consumption at businesses so there is no need to restrict it further. There are no regulations on house parties, so who ever at whatever age can and will over consume alcohol.

451 See above. Nov 15, 2012 12:01 PM

452 Boulder does not have a problem with overconsumption Nov 15, 2012 11:58 AM

453 I am concerned that businesses that have been in operation for years, contribute Nov 15, 2012 11:41 AM to the overall city atmodphere and economics, could be subject to the whims of neighbors that may have moved into the area after the business was established. What if the high end $1M plus condo owners around pearl street started submitting complaints about noise? Would we end up with a downtown area that closes at 11pm? Boulder's vibrant night life is one of the things that make the city attractive to current and future residents. If you want a quite are move somewhere away from the bars and restaurants.

454 The problem is the hill, not businesses. To punish businesses for the immaturity Nov 15, 2012 11:38 AM of the underagers drinking is absurd. The livlihood of these individuals running these businesses after 11 should not be impacted. If you look at the statistics, the majority of alcohol related incidents occur with individuals under the age of 21. Those 21 and over who can actually frequent the 21+ establishments that are open after 11 are more mature than the underage individuals who drink to get drunk on the hill.

455 Simply would not fix the problem. Nov 15, 2012 11:31 AM

456 This is not the problem. It's a waste of time and resources. The problem is Nov 15, 2012 11:31 AM enforcement in residential communities.

457 You are missing the real problem and asking the wrong questions. Businesses Nov 15, 2012 11:27 AM aren't the problem, it's the university, policing, non-compliant licensees, and the students. Not all businesses should suffer because you need more enforcement on school campus and residential areas. Also when liquor licensees come before the board, the board actually needs to impose sanctions that prevent licensees from operating in negative ways. K's China is a perfect example. It is a known trouble spot, it has been non-compliant for years, and it has been brought to hearing several times wasting tax payer dollars and all kinds of

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resources and yet they are still in operation. This is the real problem. Licensees who are non-compliant and student residential areas need to be regularly enforced.

458 These establishments have been around for a really long time without problem. Nov 15, 2012 11:25 AM They are run by good, local people who want to excel as a business and provide a fun environment for students. If you made it so that people couldn't buy liquor after 11 pm at a bar, then people would just pregame WAY harder before going to the bars, and that kind of binge drinking is exactly what is unsafe!!

459 On the Hill the bar scene is part of the culture. If you were to take that away it Nov 15, 2012 11:18 AM would just MOVE to Pearl and cause more lines, noise, and violations. Even on Pearl it is secluded enough that those whom do drink aren't in a position to be a nuisance to those that live the block or two off of there.

460 It is proven fact the city spends more $$$ on alcohol related issues after 11 pm Nov 15, 2012 11:11 AM

461 From what I have read there is enough regulation to mitigate the few Nov 15, 2012 11:05 AM establishments who may overserve. There is no need to add additional regulations.

462 It is not the licensed bars and restaurants that are the problem. The issues with Nov 15, 2012 10:57 AM specific bars that don't comply need to be handled separately from the ones that work on abiding by the law.

463 You will only hurt busineses and not address drinking. Nov 15, 2012 10:50 AM

464 New zoning would financially punish responsible businesses. It would not focus Nov 15, 2012 10:45 AM on the real issues and do nothing to cut back on over consumption as it would target small business owners and not the private party venue.

465 i don't think it will do anything except hurt businesses Nov 15, 2012 10:44 AM

466 I have lived in several different states and Boulder already has the strictest Nov 15, 2012 10:41 AM policies on places that can serve alcohol that I have ever seen. More regulation will drive away business, already people don't want to try and open a business in Boulder because the laws and regulations are so strict, we want our community to thrive and grow not wither and die because of over regulation.

467 Leave the zoning regulations alone; there's no sense in creating policies which Nov 15, 2012 10:33 AM will hurt local businesses.

468 Businesses that sell alcohol or operate after 11 p.m. should not be regulated out Nov 15, 2012 10:18 AM of existence or penalized simply because they operate in a city that hosts a university and large numbers of college students.

469 Businesses are not the problem Nov 15, 2012 10:17 AM

470 This isn't the problem Nov 15, 2012 10:11 AM

471 The more the government tries to regulate business the less the business owner Nov 15, 2012 10:08 AM is willing to stay open, providing jobs and revenue for the city.

472 Would not deter alcohol comsumption. It would increase house parties, leading Nov 15, 2012 10:03 AM

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to an increase in alcohol consumption.

473 I don't think that is the answer to the problem. People will always find a way. Nov 15, 2012 9:50 AM

474 Fix this problem by lowering the legal drinking age in Colorado to 19. Over Nov 15, 2012 9:49 AM consumption of alcohol is a problem for the 19-21 crowd because when they have access to alcohol they consume more than they should, not knowing if they'll have access at their next destination, especially bars who follow the law strictly and ID.

475 This will do extreme damage to small businesses in that area and change the Nov 15, 2012 9:46 AM face of Boulder forever

476 By making these zoning regulations for these businesses, they would become Nov 15, 2012 9:42 AM less accessible, and more people will be driving to and from them.

477 Same as above. Nov 15, 2012 9:34 AM

478 This is a free country. Nov 15, 2012 9:19 AM

479 It would kill historic businesses such as The Sink. The Hill neighbors know where Nov 15, 2012 9:16 AM they are living, it is the college part of town.

480 because that would take away from the culture of the hill which is a college Nov 15, 2012 9:14 AM place. Not many families with kids live in the middle of the hill, and if somebody decides to move there, they should know.

481 This is a horrible idea. Stop limiting the freedom of the people of Boulder to do Nov 15, 2012 9:13 AM as they wish, and operate businesses as they wish.

482 After 11 pm is when the bars really get fun and when people actually let loose. if Nov 15, 2012 9:06 AM you want to see a vast loss in profits for many Boulder businesses then pass this law

483 That is an anti business policy that will only hurt the small business an have little Nov 15, 2012 8:57 AM or no impact on overconsumtion. The people whom overconsume will continue to overconsume. They will just move to private resedence.

484 Makes small business owners pay the price for a "solution" that won't solve Nov 15, 2012 8:55 AM anything

485 There are enough regulations already. Enforce those on the books - don't spend Nov 15, 2012 8:44 AM time writing additional rules.

486 Very hard to answer without specifics. Nov 15, 2012 8:38 AM

487 The current zoning regulations are onerous enough in their current form. Do not Nov 15, 2012 8:17 AM over regulate.

488 If the regulations are more restrictive than currently in place they could have a Nov 15, 2012 8:17 AM very adverse impact on Boulder tourism and its economy.

489 I think it would just push alcohol consumption into the neighborhoods. Nov 15, 2012 8:11 AM Restaurants don't need to be zoned but better policing and availability of minors

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to GET alcohol needs to be improved.

490 There are already plenty of tools in place to respond to businesses which violate Nov 15, 2012 7:25 AM laws related to alcohol sales. Additional regulation on businesses is unnecessary, and places the responsibility for over consumption on the wrong shoulders.

491 Absolutely not. Government restrictions will not help anything, it will just create Nov 15, 2012 7:19 AM problems and take away freedom

492 Businesses will be hurt and are not the cause of people over drinking. The Nov 15, 2012 6:34 AM problem is the lack of responsibility people take for their own behavior. Do not punish businesses for the behavior of their clients. Many of the outcomes of overdrinking are because people make bad choices and than want someone else to be responsible.

493 We have enough regulation of alcohol as it is. Nov 15, 2012 6:02 AM

494 Not necessary, and negatively impacts businesses that are important to the Nov 15, 2012 5:59 AM success of our community -- unnecessarily restrictive

495 I don't think businesses should suffer because of the irresponsibility of the Nov 15, 2012 5:05 AM students.

496 No, absolutely pointless. People will just drink elsewhere, in a less regulated Nov 15, 2012 1:53 AM environment.

497 Not the city's business to impose business restrictions based on what people do Nov 15, 2012 1:17 AM and don't buy. Punish the people who are causing problems after being drunk for not being able to control themselves, not the restaurants for selling them alcohol.

498 Government should not have the right to do that. Nov 14, 2012 11:45 PM

499 There are enough laws to control already. Just enforce these. Nov 14, 2012 11:02 PM

500 Let's just keep killing off businesses Boulder - way to think this one through City Nov 14, 2012 10:55 PM Council.

501 I don't see over consumption in of itself as a problem. In my opinion, the primary Nov 14, 2012 10:41 PM concern is public safety, particularly focusing on continuing to improve public transportation so that drunk driving does not occur, even if RTD has to operate at a loss to do so.

502 This strikes me as too broad a brush, affecting businesses that have played no Nov 14, 2012 10:34 PM part in creating the problems that exist. I prefer clarifying and acting on problematic patterns of business behavior that trigger licensing reviews and potential revocation.

503 Why change what's already working for businesses. The fact that people (mostly Nov 14, 2012 10:22 PM students) might be going overboard with drinking is more the fault of education and awareness. If anything the city Gould punish those that do any excessive drinking and not the establishments in the general area that bring life to the community.

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504 If people think there is a problem with overcomsumption it can be addressed in Nov 14, 2012 10:22 PM ways other than zoning, which would effect responsible business owners. If there are businesses that are serving when they shouldn't crack down on them and praise the businesses doing a good job

505 Everyone has a right to conduct business and should not be restricted. Most of Nov 14, 2012 9:47 PM these kids are drinking before they go out. The businesses are not the problem and shouldn't have their livelihood put at risk unless they are a constant violator.

506 how could you decide who would qualify? what are the legal boundaries of this, Nov 14, 2012 9:31 PM very questionable.

507 I do believe that late night establishments should be treated differently, but I do Nov 14, 2012 9:20 PM not believe that the regulations should be created in a manor that dissuades establishments from staying open later. If anything, I believe that liquor stores should close earlier to discourage late night binge drinking and encourage people to visit other local businesses such as bars and taverns.

508 I think that a restriction like this would be bad for businesses, especially smaller, Nov 14, 2012 9:15 PM locally owned establishments, which are the heartbeat and staple of Boulder.

509 People that are going to engage in certain behaviors will do so wherever they Nov 14, 2012 9:14 PM can that is open. Limiting other businesses puts unnecessary regulations on new businesses without changing the behavior.

510 Boulder needs to leave existing responsible establishments alone, and focus on Nov 14, 2012 9:07 PM supporting new responsible owners!

511 the issue is house parties Nov 14, 2012 8:57 PM

512 These businesses make money off of selling alcohol,so zoning regulations would Nov 14, 2012 8:57 PM greatly affect these businesses

513 They are currently regulating well. Nov 14, 2012 8:54 PM

514 I think the regulations in place prevent alcohol related problems well; it is the Nov 14, 2012 8:49 PM individual responsible and house parties where the real problems occur.

515 These are the business on which we should rely on to provide a safe and Nov 14, 2012 8:46 PM supervised atmosphere. We should not make it harder for them to operate. We should be aiding them by rewarding responsible business and punishing irresponsible business and unsupervised parties.

516 The assumption here would indicate that it's the businesses that are causing the Nov 14, 2012 8:46 PM over consumption. In addition, regulations as mentioned above, with regards to existing entities/properties, will certainly be met with litigation. State law protects property/business owners from cities inacting regulations in this realm. Any passage of law requires data. The data collected after passage of law would need to show decreases in over consumption.

517 Please, Boulder regulates everything anymore. Moderation is the key word Nov 14, 2012 8:37 PM here.

518 There are enough laws on when and where alcohol can be sold already. Nov 14, 2012 8:29 PM

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519 Additional zoning regulations will not change the amount of alcohol consumed in Nov 14, 2012 8:10 PM Boulder. If one wants to take the drinking out of Boulder, take the university out of Boulder, take the 60-year-old alcoholics out of Boulder. In addition, business will TANK in the Hill District if alcohol can no longer be served; the parents who come into Boulder to visit their kids will not want to eat at a restaurant where they can't get a bloody mary.

520 We have plenty of laws that could be enforced. If a bar closes at 11pm, people Nov 14, 2012 8:04 PM will walk, drive, or take a taxi to a bar that is open downtown. Closing hill bars at 11 will just make for a downtown 'exodus' at 11pm. i.e. more drunk people traveling when they could be safely in one place. Do you really think kids are just going to go home and go to sleep? City Council is crazy with new regulations. They should be regulated!

521 I would not support anything to do with alcohol zoning. I make a living and Nov 14, 2012 8:02 PM support my family working in a restaurant!

522 Businesses should not suffer from the irresponsibility of drunk college students. Nov 14, 2012 8:01 PM Bars earn their money from the sale of alcohol and if they are doing so within the law and responsibly then the responsibility shifts to the consumer: if they are over-consuming and acting disorderly then THEY should be punished, not the establishment.

523 The bars keep the drinking more under control for people who are of age. All the Nov 14, 2012 7:54 PM businesses and business owners are responsible and do not allow dangerous situations or over consumption on their watch, unlike house parties--which is where the problem lies.

524 If college kids aren't 'over consuming' at a public place they'll do it in a private Nov 14, 2012 7:46 PM residence, this regulation would make no difference or would just encourage people to further their binge drinking habits at a private residence.

525 So many logical fallacies in this survey! I won't point this one out for you. Take it Nov 14, 2012 7:29 PM to the university where real researchers exist and get some advice.

526 Our town should encourage any and all local/small business to invest in Boulder, Nov 14, 2012 7:22 PM regardless of who the customers are. The campus/students are part of our city, future residents, taxpayers, and business owners, and represent a major consumer base. Major impacts to existing business as well.

527 Zoning regs would havee a negative impact on new restaurants I the city which Nov 14, 2012 7:20 PM now Constitute over 50 per cent of downtown sales tax

528 The businesses that sell alcohol provide a large income for the City, also it is Nov 14, 2012 7:13 PM much safer to be drinking at these locations where staff can help when somebody does over consume alcohol At house parties often times these people are simply shoved into a dark corner or room and forgotten about. By creating additional regulations you would not curb alcohol consumption, but rather throw it into the shadows were it is harder to regulate and help people when there is an issue.

529 Zoning controls the wrong party: commercial establishments with managed Nov 14, 2012 7:09 PM behavior. Overly anxious old people (some of them are middle ages acting old)

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demand city action and have the political/financial weight to spur action. The city has a hammer with zoning and therefore thinks the problem is to use it on a nail. The nail is holding together a viable commercial/social enterprise. The city should, instead, use modern information systems (cell phone app for citizens to quickly generate data and photo into automated police data) to processes detection of disruptive behavior in real time and respond with appropriate social control agents: non-police university staff, police, homeless support staff, ambulance.

530 enforcing a 500ft minimum distance between bars isn't going to help at all. It just Nov 14, 2012 7:08 PM means the bars that do stay open will be that much more crowded.

531 See comment in 7. Nov 14, 2012 6:53 PM

532 Please don't hurt businesses that provide a safe and regulated location for the Nov 14, 2012 6:35 PM consumption of alcohol. If people choose to consume alcohol, they will do so. People that choose to consume alcohol at a bar or restaurant also have the option to consume food, which helps mitigate the impact of alcohol.

533 Taking away money from local businesses in this economy is WRONG. Nov 14, 2012 6:31 PM

534 Just not necessary Nov 14, 2012 6:31 PM

535 I don't believe this will be an effective way to help the alcohol problem in the city. Nov 14, 2012 6:25 PM Instead it will affect local businesses negatively. I have worked as a waitress for 5 years and know how important alcohol sales are to a business. I don't believe this is really addressing the problem but instead trying to step around it. College students and young adults are going to continue to get drunk and restricting the business's isn't going to stop it.

536 We do not need any more rules to make it more difficult for private business Nov 14, 2012 6:21 PM owners to make a living

537 Like I said before, I think the real problem are the house parties. If there are Nov 14, 2012 6:17 PM more places like Geisty's or the Sink on the Hill that offer food and alcohol, more 21+ students and residents will drink here, instead of having house parties. I realize you can't kill the occurrence of house parties with more bars, but if I go to a bar and drink I will not want to come home and throw a party.

538 I think that most people aren't drinking too much in the bars and most people Nov 14, 2012 6:14 PM designate drivers, don't drive and are generally courteous. The problem is the college kids mostly.

539 The city council does not need to over-regulate all activities that bother some Nov 14, 2012 6:12 PM minority group.

540 "Alcohol over consumption" happens to every cities and countries. It is a normal Nov 14, 2012 6:11 PM human being. We must have a better education and stronger punishment to make this "free country" free. Limiting the business hours will not solve any alcohol consumption issues, instead it will trigger more and more under-table or underground activities. And it will make the authorities even harder to track and stop the illegal exercise.

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541 This is an infringement on the rights of citizens of legal age to do what they like Nov 14, 2012 6:10 PM to their bodies and minds within the confines of the law. If an individual causes a problem, deal with the individual; do not take away the right of business owners to make a profit and law abiding citizens to operate within the confines of the law. All an ordinance like this will do is drive people to purchase their own alcohol and throw private parties; the source of many of the legal and underage drinking issues Boulder faces.

542 I believe that would drive many businesses completely off of the Hill. It seems Nov 14, 2012 6:07 PM unfair to more strictly regulate the only establishments of University Hill that actually play a huge roll in making the social atmosphere safer for everyone.

543 The hill is a staple of boulder and has been for decades. To alter (some would Nov 14, 2012 6:07 PM say destroy) it to satisfy the ill-conceived desires of a few individuals (who choose to live in a student dense area of a college town) is ludicrous.

544 I believe that it a regulation that is over-reaching in its oversight and vaguely Nov 14, 2012 5:58 PM puritanical in its aims. I would not support these regulations in any community that has a thriving bar/restaurant and entertainment economy. I believe these regulations would have more damaging effects on Boulder's culture than positive effects.

545 So drink/ purchase all you can in public before 11 then go to your house? Thats Nov 14, 2012 5:53 PM what will happen.

546 The nature of the business environment in Boulder for bars, nightclubs, taverns, Nov 14, 2012 5:47 PM and the like is quite difficult. Making it harder doesn't affect the problem so much as it creates incentives for businesses to behave less responsibly, because they don't think they'll be around long enough to care.

547 Again, adults drinking responsibly at a bar are not a problem. Alcohol Nov 14, 2012 5:46 PM consumption is not a problem for the vast majority of people in Boulder. If you want to penalize people for their inappropriate behavior, laws already exist to do so.

548 This regulatory zoning code is just a way to direct the blame to someone and call Nov 14, 2012 5:44 PM them "responsible" for the heavy drinking that occurs on the Hill. The bars are doing absolutely nothing to endorse the type of drinking that becomes a problem on the Hill. I have witnessed many people get denied service at bars on the HIll because they were too intoxicated. In fact, most of the people that I know that drink too much do it at home before we go to the bars because they are too broke to spend a lot of money at the bars. I'm not trying to argue that people are never highly intoxicated at the bars. However, I rarely see someone go to the bar sober and come back highly intoxicated. So turning the Hill into a dry zone really won't have much of an effect other than making students angry, which most likely won't lead to desirable results.

549 I am a strong supporter of small businesses. Many small businesses that cater to Nov 14, 2012 5:43 PM of age (21) residents and students in Boulder stay open after 11 p.m. serving food and alcohol and survive on this factor alone.

550 solution fails to address the core issue of underaged excessive drinking. Nov 14, 2012 5:36 PM

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551 Absolutely not. It would unnecessarily hurt business owners, and ultimately the Nov 14, 2012 5:35 PM town. I would oppose anyone on the ballot that supported additional zoning regulations.

552 Placing regulations on businesses is just going to anger citizens and decrease Nov 14, 2012 5:30 PM revenues for those businesses. People are responsible for the choices they make, not the businesses.

553 There is absolutely no reason. Nov 14, 2012 5:29 PM

554 Based on how Boulder County handled the incident with K's China earlier this Nov 14, 2012 5:26 PM year I feel that the motivations behind any additional regulations would be politically motivated, racially charged and put in place to make a very specific subset of Boulder's population more wealthy.

555 So much to change for so many businesses and costs. Nov 14, 2012 5:21 PM

556 I work in a restaurant in Boulder that relies on alcohol sales as a large part of its Nov 14, 2012 5:19 PM business. My income would probably be significantly impacted, as well as the incomes of my coworkers and bosses. I also believe that taking away the students'/resident's access to drinking in public establishments will only increase the over consumption happening in private residences. The number of house parties will greatly increase as, most likely, will the level of drunkenness because there are no rules in private houses. There isn't a bouncer checking ids at the door to keep minors from drinking, nor bartenders or servers to measure drinks and cut people off, or make sure people get home safely.

557 It is unnecessary, and going to make the "problem" worse. Nov 14, 2012 5:18 PM

558 Businesses aren't the problem Nov 14, 2012 5:18 PM

559 I don't think you can just legislate the problem away. It's a cultural thing. Nov 14, 2012 5:16 PM

560 Additionally zoning regulations would hurt many of those businesses, as 11 p.m. Nov 14, 2012 5:14 PM - 2 a.m are their peak hours.

561 This is a terrible idea and shows a government interfering too much in matters Nov 14, 2012 5:12 PM that are of personal, citizen concern.

562 I don't think this is going to have any effect whatsoever on the majority of the Nov 14, 2012 5:08 PM obnoxious issues I've personally experienced with drinking in Boulder.

563 See above answer. Zoning will not solve the assumed problem. Nov 14, 2012 5:07 PM

564 I think it will have a negative effect on businesses, which support the Boulder Nov 14, 2012 5:07 PM community and the possibility for a healthy economy.

565 Don't think it's necessary Nov 14, 2012 5:04 PM

566 I don't think that the businesses are the problem whatsoever. Trying to shut Nov 14, 2012 5:02 PM down the sink, half fast, etc. is ridiculous. The beggars are WAY more obnoxious and worse for the city image. Every day when I walk to work I am bothered by them.

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567 I think the number of businesses that sell alcohol past 11pm is already small Nov 14, 2012 5:02 PM enough, and they are already packed into a relatively small area. The commercial area of The Hill is typically quiet after 11, and the bars on The Hill haven't been much of a problem during my 4 years at CU. The excessive drinking on Pearl and Walnut is, perhaps, a problem, but the bars are all close to each other and there are not many people that live down there.

568 Whith new regulations in place you run the risk of forcing people into house Nov 14, 2012 5:02 PM parties or you force them to travel to drink. If in house parties they have no one to regulate their consuption or age, if they have to travel that will inevitably result in drunk driving an injuries or death.

569 It brings in revenue and popularity to the city. It is part of the culture and the way Nov 14, 2012 4:58 PM of life here. It is Boulder's history

570 How much can you really control what people are going to do? Nov 14, 2012 4:57 PM

571 I do not believe that businesses selling alcohol should be treated any differently Nov 14, 2012 4:53 PM because of what they choose to sell. Zoning will not fix any problems.

572 I would rather have the drinking at a bar where it is regulated than at house Nov 14, 2012 4:47 PM parties. Also I would like to be able to have a beer after Shakespeare with some fellow "old folks"

573 If you make it more difficult to operate, the drinking will continue, just outside or Nov 14, 2012 4:46 PM at house parties. Just enforce existing laws.

574 Forcing consumption out of commercial districts and in to residential areas is Nov 14, 2012 4:45 PM extremely unwise, and does not address the issue.

575 It is fine the way it is, excessive drinking does not occur in businesses but more Nov 14, 2012 4:42 PM so in the residential areas.

576 I actually don't know enough to answer this appropriately, but the computer told Nov 14, 2012 4:40 PM me I have to answer

577 I believe that the hoops that businesses already have to jump through to be able Nov 14, 2012 4:37 PM to sell alcohol and operate after 11pm are enough regulations and that we do not need more. I believe that the problem does not lie with the businesses of Boulder but the overall perceived culture of the town/University and the personalities of some of the students that study and work here. The businesses of Boulder, if responsible, smart, and law-abiding, should not be punished for the stupidity of the few.

578 I don't believe the problem will be solved through zoning laws. There is a Nov 14, 2012 4:33 PM problem at the city level with how the BLA refuses to do their job and take away the licenses of "bad actor" establishments. Furthermore, zoning is not going to have any effect what so ever on "house parties" and therefor if you move all the college kids from the bars they will end up at house parties that have not monitoring of how much alcohol is being consumed.

579 There currently exist laws in the books that the City needs to enforce; if they Nov 14, 2012 4:32 PM were doing their job, we wouldn't be looking at additional zoning.

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580 If they are a bar or liquor store, they should be able to operate as any other Nov 14, 2012 4:32 PM establishment in the city of Boulder according to existing regulations.

581 Most excessive drinking-related problems occur in private and on the Hill. Nov 14, 2012 4:30 PM Changing zoning laws wouldn't really fix this, but it would limit small business growth.

582 The board is already quite strict about alcohol consumption in Boulder as I Nov 14, 2012 4:26 PM understand it, just give it a rest already and let the businesses do their jobs

583 These zoning laws won't keep over consumption from happening, only change Nov 14, 2012 4:10 PM the location. They would also hurt business on the hill that currently sell alcohol after 11 p.m.

584 I believe that businesses already have strict regulations to follow and they also Nov 14, 2012 3:56 PM impose those regulations very strictly on their customers. To impose more regulations would drive business away and be unlawful.

585 I don't think the businesses on the Hill are the major problem. I lived on the Hill, Nov 14, 2012 3:53 PM and in college I often went to the Sink or to Half Fast to drink, but I never went to those bars planning on staying the whole night--I, and most people I knew, use those bars at a meeting place and a spot to get a couple of drinks BEFORE the party, which was usually a house party or going down to Pearl. I don't that restricting the sale of alcohol on the Hill would do anything besides hurt the businesses, and encourage kids to go out drinking on Pearl more, which usually means going farther away from home and is a lot more risky. I might support a restriction on the type of alcohol sold, maybe, but that would still hurt the businesses.

586 Bars don't kill people, people do. Don't punish the bars, punish the bad behaving Nov 14, 2012 3:49 PM people. I wish there were more neighborhod pubs, for civilized drinkers.

587 I believe it would be counterproductive. Nov 14, 2012 3:49 PM

588 As long as staff are properly trained to spot over consumption, there should not Nov 14, 2012 3:43 PM be a problem.

589 The over consumption of alcohol problem is mainly located in residential areas Nov 14, 2012 3:40 PM and therefore the additional zoning would change nothing except tax revenue from the sale of alcohol and food at businesses.

590 Bars selling alcohol after 11pm is not the cause of people getting too drunk. The Nov 14, 2012 3:40 PM bars on the hill are a fun place to grab a drink with friends, and the presence of these bars is not at fault for people drinking too much. Bars don't get people too drunk, people get people too drunk.

591 as i have mentioned previously, the college students in this town are the Nov 14, 2012 3:39 PM economic engine. by forcing all bar going students to travel to pearl street, you will only hurt the other business on the hill. places such as Bova's, Cosmo's, Five Guys, and Illegal Pete's will see a major decrease in weekend revenue.

592 That is ridiculous. Businesses should be able to serve alcohol, and people living Nov 14, 2012 3:38 PM in boulder should be able to get it at their local businesses. Restricting

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businesses is absolutely not a good idea. Drinking problems are severely over exaggerated in the boulder area and there is no need for change.

593 As stated above, I'm going to drink regardless, so we might as well help local Nov 14, 2012 3:36 PM businesses and established economies.

594 I don't believe these regulations would have an impact on the overconsumption Nov 14, 2012 3:34 PM of alcohol that takes place in Boulder. I have rarely heard of something negative happening to someone at a University Hill bar, as these types of things typically occur at house parties or fraternity houses with underage students who do not know their limit. I believe the bars on the hill have done a spectacular job thus far of letting people know when they have had too much and need to leave, before anything negative has a chance to happen.

595 I don't think limiting the availability of alcohol on the Hill will deter anyone who Nov 14, 2012 3:33 PM over-consumes alcohol from drinking.

596 This will threaten the integrity and prosperity of all of the late night Nov 14, 2012 3:30 PM establishments in Boulder. These regulations reflect those of America in the prohibition.

597 College students like to go out to bars later than 11pm. Closing or limiting what Nov 14, 2012 3:29 PM can be served will decrease sales.

598 Absolutely not, this is absurd. You will be hindering business success if this were Nov 14, 2012 3:27 PM to happen. Businesses all over the hill that rely on their liquor license to make money will lose business and ultimately go under. Zoning regulations do not need to be regulated for businesses that sell alcohol or operate after 11 p.m. as most of these businesses rely on their ability to sell alcohol that late, doing so would ruin their business.

599 People are going to find a way to drink in Boulder regardless of where they Nov 14, 2012 3:27 PM obtain the alcohol. Allowing the bars to operate after 11pm helps the local economy. If you put rules and regulations on local businesses that sell alcohol people are more likely to drink in their own homes where the chances are lower of having a sober person present to determine if a person has had too much to drink.

600 With the current state of the economy, I believe it is unsound. Nov 14, 2012 3:26 PM

601 I like the idea of holding bars to higher standards at night. Might make them a bit Nov 14, 2012 3:25 PM more pleasant to be in. Not sure about the beer/wine license though. I think hard liquor licenses should be allowed for places like Illegal Pete's; what shouldn't be allowed to open at all are any more nasty bars like the Sundown Saloon (sorry Downer...). As a more "responsible" drinker, I wish more places were like Conor O'Neill's: food, drinks, TVs, cool seating. All excessive drinking should be kept to house parties, not actual businesses. But that's just me, those places bring in tons of money...

602 I do not think that is necessary and I think that is would discourage businesses Nov 14, 2012 3:22 PM from opening and thriving in certain parts of Boulder.

603 I support freedom of people and freedom of business. Help the people who get Nov 14, 2012 2:49 PM

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in trouble because of alcohol; don't punish the people who don't get in trouble, and don't punish business owners.

604 If there are problem establishments, address the problem establishments. Nov 14, 2012 2:40 PM Enforce existing codes and hold business owners responsible. Don't force additional regulations on businesses that are already following the laws and being good neighbors.

605 it won't affect drnking Nov 14, 2012 2:39 PM

606 It's not the businesses that are creating any kind of over-consumption issues. It Nov 14, 2012 2:38 PM comes from decisions made by students on private property. Businesses shouldn't be given additional regulations when they aren't causing these issues.

607 Additional zoning regulations will simply penalize the businesses, rather than Nov 14, 2012 2:37 PM addressing the real issues inebriated patrons can present

608 Generally yes, but I oppose the idea of modifying or revoking the waiver for Nov 14, 2012 2:35 PM businesses that sell alcohol within 500 feet of CU. Our university has a large footprint, and disallowing businesses that sell alcohol within 500 of that footprint will hamper growth and dissuade new businesses from opening. Additionally, having establishments that sell alcohol within a close proximity to CU will encourage walking to and from those businesses. Making alcohol-serving businesses locate farther away from the campus will only encourage drunk driving.

609 Try to get it out of the neighborhoods around the hill. Nov 14, 2012 2:32 PM

610 I do not believe this would solve the problem of overconsumption, and may even Nov 14, 2012 2:16 PM make it worse. If businesses are limited, many patrons will simply drink before or after going to the establishment. Additionally, regulations would only serve to hurt small businesses that are likely already struggling in the poor economy.

611 People should have the liberty to choose when and where they consume Nov 14, 2012 2:15 PM alcohol. All regulating the sale of alcohol for businesses will do is hurt business and decrease profits. Thus, this decreases the amount of city tax revenue collected, which will decrease Boulder's municipal budget. Boulder should be promoting business.

612 If bars aren't open late night then it will be more difficult for people to find a place Nov 14, 2012 2:12 PM to drink nearby. This can lead to drinking and driving so people seek places they can drink after 11pm.

613 I believe that alcohol consumption is regulated properly already. The problem is Nov 14, 2012 2:06 PM enforcement and changing the culture. Coming from Santa Barbara originally, I have seen the effect of strong enforcement on management of rowdy kids drinking in University neighborhoods. Controlling bars and restaurants is less the solution as controlling parties and drunk driving.

614 Maybe; I would need to know more information about what the zoning Nov 14, 2012 2:06 PM regulations would be. Bars open after 11pm offer a safe place for people to drink and socialize. It's certainly better than being out on the streets.

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615 It places unfair burden on law biding business people. Unlawful business can Nov 14, 2012 2:04 PM have their licenses revoked.

616 From what I have read, policies such as reducing access to alcohol have the Nov 14, 2012 2:03 PM most cost-effective impact to reduce binge drinking.

617 Forcing people to certain parts of town means driving. Driving plus drinking? Nov 14, 2012 1:40 PM Doesn't sound like it's something we need.

618 I think they already take responsibility for their business and don't need to be Nov 14, 2012 1:31 PM further regulated.

619 Businesses who sell alcohol already have enough strict regulations, this new Nov 14, 2012 1:28 PM policy is overkill.

620 As explained previously, if there is a problem of over consumption it is in private Nov 14, 2012 1:26 PM residences that lack supervision or regulation. Additional zoning will just force people to leave specific businesses earlier and continue drinking at residential locations.

621 By state statute bars and restaurants are allowed to stay open until 2. If they are Nov 14, 2012 1:25 PM in a business district, they should be able to operate to the fullest extent of their license. Too many people forget that rents and restaurant insurance in Boulder is sky high, asking businesses to keep prices reasonable and stay open less is an unfair playing field which will lead to a decline of the diversity of uses in boulder.

622 No it will hurt local businesses. Nov 14, 2012 1:18 PM

623 Frankly I'm sick of adding an increasing layer of regulations to an already Nov 14, 2012 1:18 PM extremely regulated industry. If they are within the law for serving alcohol, age and what not, then that's that.

624 Restaurants on the hill are not responsible for the over consumption on the hill, Nov 14, 2012 1:16 PM in fact they help by serving food and absorbing some of the alcohol in their system. Tighter regulations on underage parties in the area would have a much bigger effect and would not hurt the local businesses that need that foot traffic for the outrageous rent prices on th hill.

625 To only allow certain bars and restaraunts to operate after 11 pm is unfair to any Nov 14, 2012 1:10 PM potential restaraunt owner wanting to establish a new buisiness in Boulder. If forces them to shut down early and impacts there ability to generate the amount of revenue that is needed to support the inflated rent prices on the hill and down town. What is better for the city? A bunch of closed and vacant retail space or resposible owners who follow state and federal law as it pertains to alcohol service.

626 I think that these establishments have been there for such a long time that if Nov 14, 2012 1:10 PM someone has problems with them they should've considered that before moving to the hill.

627 I don't believe the hour of the day is any indication of the problem of alcohol over Nov 14, 2012 1:05 PM consumption.

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628 Boulder is known for having an exceptional nightlife, additional zoning laws could Nov 14, 2012 1:02 PM change that.

629 It won't curb the problem of people drinking at house parties. The kids prepare Nov 14, 2012 1:01 PM early, late alcohol sales are usually to sober people that work a late shift and buy alcohol to drink while the unwind at home.

630 Over regulation isn't going to solve any perceived issue of over consumption. Nov 14, 2012 12:50 PM

631 You are restricting free enterprise. And bars operating late night have bouncers Nov 14, 2012 12:49 PM and sober people who can see how people are doing. At house parties people are encouraged to drink more by their drunk friends

632 It's a college town with 30,000+ students looking to have fun. Zoning off local Nov 14, 2012 12:48 PM businesses will just hurt revenue generated to the city and allow students to go and binge drink at house parties either before or after they attend the bars.

633 Use the liqor code we have to police violations Nov 14, 2012 12:41 PM

634 How can businesses compete if certain locations can be open until 2am and Nov 14, 2012 12:41 PM others cannot? We need one set of rules for everybody. I've attended multiple liquor license hearings and it is always the same thing - new businesses or business owners are guilty until proven innocent.

635 The economic penalty to these businesses in your "war on alcohol" will be more Nov 14, 2012 12:36 PM damaging than any (doubtful) benefits.

636 YOU WILL LOSE LOCAL JOBS IN THE NAME OF CONTROLLING THE Nov 14, 2012 12:34 PM UNCONTROLLABLE. HOW CAN YOU EVEN BE CONSIDERING THIS.

637 I feel that by limiting the access to alcohol, the heavy partying crowd will have to Nov 14, 2012 12:28 PM find another city/school to trash.

638 That won't help. It just moves people from regulated drinking to unregulated. The Nov 14, 2012 12:16 PM cause of the problem is the people. Not the businesses or the alcohol.

639 Its just another business, stop trying to regulate every fucking thing. Nov 14, 2012 12:14 PM

640 College students who are of age on Boulder tend to go down to the bars around Nov 14, 2012 12:11 PM 11. Pitting an additional tax on these businesses will hurt them financially and is not in the best interest of all involved. Such would simply cause issues and obstacles for businesses and they may move their locations outside of the city because of so.

641 You're just going to move the point of consumption out of those establishments Nov 14, 2012 12:07 PM elsewhere. You can't regulate behavior.

642 No, additional zoning regulations or restriction on sales wont reduce the Nov 14, 2012 12:02 PM consumption in Boulder, it will only change where they consume it and that will result in a greater likelihood of alcohol related injuries and illnesses. Look at the changes that the fraternities and sororities made from 2002 until now. Is it perfect no, but it goes to show that if you work with bars and students in relation to risk management it is far more effective then limiting what they can drink and where they can drink it because it won't chance how much they drink. If students

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want to drink hard alcohol they will do it, and it is better to do it in a controlled environment.

643 I think this would destroy businesses that have supported Boulders Hill for Nov 14, 2012 11:59 AM decades. This is not only unfair to those business owners, but goes against the basic premise of free trade.

644 People that responsible should be able to make their own choices Nov 14, 2012 11:58 AM

645 Having spent five years in Boulder, three of those years as an of-age drinker, I Nov 14, 2012 11:55 AM became friends with several bartenders and security personnel at many local establishments. The ones I knew were very good about not over serving patrons. The issue again lies in private residence. When people live a two second walk from the bar, they generally don't have a problem with taking a five minute trip home to get a few more drinks if they are not being served or if they are trying to save money.

646 Without knowing the particulars, I suspect such regulations would do more harm Nov 14, 2012 11:55 AM than good

647 The businesses aren't the problem, it's the students. This style of alcohol Nov 14, 2012 11:54 AM consumption is seen whenever a large college is located in a relatively small city. There's no reason to put limitations on businesses when it won't solve the problem whatsoever.

648 i think that the only real problems exist on the hill at people's homes, and the Nov 14, 2012 11:50 AM primary problem is just litter i see no reason to further regulate the very limited number of late night bars on the university hill.

649 Stop meddling in the market! Stop being Debbie downer. Nov 14, 2012 11:48 AM

650 That would harm the businesses and case a negative view on boulder, people Nov 14, 2012 11:48 AM would be displease and one of the biggest groups in boulder are students so it makes sense that cutting that money out of businesses would kill them.

651 I just found out today that the city is even thinking about changing this. I am Nov 14, 2012 11:44 AM amazed that the city is wasting taxpayers time and money on this. As an ex- student, a nearby resident, a frequent visitor to Boulder, a Boulder County business owner, a Boulder County Property owner, and husband to a Boulder employee, I am extremely disappointed that this is even a thought. I lived on the Hill 10 years ago and saw what was happening then and is still happening now. It is not as bad as it sounds. The bars and restaurants are not to blame. The are of the Hill is surrounded by 18-25 year olds who are having fun. There are times when they get a little rowdy, but changing the zoning will not help. These kids will still party at their homes, and go to Pearl Street. When Pearl Street sees these same "problems" will the zoning change there? Changing the zoning will negatively affect the bars and restaurants and most likely put them out of business. Alcohol is how these restaurants make money because the margins are enormous.

652 No reason to hurt business for those locations. I would strongly disagree with Nov 14, 2012 11:38 AM any zoning regulations proposed to curb alcohol sales.

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653 I'm guessing more violations occur after 11 p.m. Nov 14, 2012 11:38 AM

654 Why? Because marijuana has been legalized now, the state has to get tough on Nov 14, 2012 11:36 AM alcohol? Honestly, all the regulations in Boulder are perfectly ok.

655 Most of these businesses make their sole profit from alcohol sales and wouldn't Nov 14, 2012 11:36 AM be able to survive with additional zoning

656 Businesses that lawfully sell alcohol do not create the problems that need to be Nov 14, 2012 11:36 AM addressed.

657 I don't think its right to punish the people who consume responsibility. Nov 14, 2012 11:34 AM

658 THIS IS A COLLEGE TOWN... AND A BEAUTIFUL CITY... THE BEAUTY Nov 14, 2012 11:34 AM ABOUT IT IS THAT EVERYONE IS LIVELY AND DOES THEIR OWN THING... JUST BECAUSE YOU LIVED HERE FIRST DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE MORE OF A SAY

659 Everyone college has drank a lot of alcohol since colleges were founded. You're Nov 14, 2012 11:33 AM not stopping anything.

660 It is not a problem in businesses. It is a problem in private residences & other Nov 14, 2012 11:31 AM areas where kids under 21 are binge drinking.

661 Changing a culture is a lot more difficult than changing a zoning law. Nov 14, 2012 11:29 AM

662 It will drive current business to close up and leave Boulder, which will reduce the Nov 14, 2012 11:26 AM tax revenue for the city.

663 It's already pretty restrictive. It's hard to find a place open late that isn't a college Nov 14, 2012 11:24 AM bar.

664 The regulations as is are sufficient enough as is and would only detriment Nov 14, 2012 11:22 AM business and those who are of legal age of consumption

665 Alcohol is a legal substance, if someone wants to buy alcohol at any time of the Nov 14, 2012 11:21 AM day they should be allowed to

666 If businesses are regulated people will be more likely to drink in private Nov 14, 2012 11:20 AM residences. As explained above there will be higher risk in regards to over consumption, unlawful behavior, etc.

667 Regulation is not the solution, education is. Nov 14, 2012 11:20 AM

668 Bad for many businesses. Nov 14, 2012 11:19 AM

669 I don't think over consumption of alcohol would be solved by regulating Nov 14, 2012 11:18 AM businesses.

670 Again, bad for business. We don't need the city babysitting us. It will hurt Nov 14, 2012 11:17 AM business and will hurt the city.

671 Businesses are operating well now, changing regulations will only hurt the Nov 14, 2012 11:16 AM businesses and the town

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672 Enforce the existing laws/regs against violating individuals/businesses. If a Nov 14, 2012 11:12 AM person is being disorderly, ticket them. If a business is over-serving, fines or license revokation.

673 People will always find a way to drink...I doubt that zoning regulations will have Nov 14, 2012 10:05 AM any effect except to be a nuisance to business owners.

674 I don't think that zoning regulations would change the actions of people who are Nov 14, 2012 9:55 AM over consuming alcohol. Instead, this could be more of a hassle for businesses and the division responsible for enforcement without much benefit.

675 Over regulation would discourage businesses from wanted to operate in Boulder. Nov 14, 2012 9:42 AM It would also force consumption of alcohol to happen in public places, on the streets and in front of schools.

676 There is a blossoming microbrew and microdistillation industry coming up in Nov 14, 2012 9:07 AM Boulder, and I don't feel that further regulating alcohol in Boulder would help the potential expansion of business.

677 This type of regulation will have no effect. Please refer to prohibition Nov 14, 2012 8:41 AM

678 I also think that these regulations should be city-wide. It makes no sense to Nov 14, 2012 8:32 AM regulate bars on the Hill, when people can then just drink downtown and still walk home loudly through the neighborhoods at 2 a.m.

679 Deal with specific problems. If you add additional zoning regulations you'll just Nov 14, 2012 8:13 AM see a concentration of bars in specific areas. If a particular bar is a problem, use enforcement and education to correct the problem. The Liquor Board already has ample powers to deal with the problem establishments.

680 Additional regulations will simply move the location of consumption from bars to Nov 14, 2012 8:06 AM private residences and public places. The city will not be successful in decreasing over-consumption by adding regulations for bars.

681 It will adversely affect the landlords on the hill, the tenants on the hill and like Nov 14, 2012 7:27 AM prohibition when america went to Canada to find alcohol, the drinkers will still find drink. They will porobably end up in unregulated and overzealous house and dorm rooms with no oversight.

682 Why not enforce laws already on the books rather than add more hurdles for Nov 14, 2012 7:06 AM business owners to jump over.

683 If you further regulate you will just push the drinking to private homes. Again, Nov 14, 2012 7:06 AM you are not going to curb drinking, just change the venue.

684 The drinking is being done in private homes.the businesses are doing everything Nov 14, 2012 7:05 AM the city is asking.

685 I don't think it accomplishes anything Nov 14, 2012 7:00 AM

686 and what, have the parties move to private homes where the concerns become Nov 14, 2012 5:15 AM even greater as there is no supervision whatsoever. No, keep the establishments open to regulate the amount of alcohol is being injested.

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687 The economic concerns outweigh the occasional problems. Let bars make Nov 14, 2012 12:05 AM money.

688 I don't think it has anything to do necessarily with the businesses. As an adult Nov 13, 2012 11:46 PM over 40, it's nice to know that I can go have a good beer at a bar downtown.

689 People should be able to go out and drink if they want to. It's not the role of Nov 13, 2012 10:46 PM government to tell people when they should go out.

690 The students will drink. If they do it close to where they live, they won't drive. If Nov 13, 2012 10:45 PM a zoning change makes them drink somewhere else, it will only make things worse.

691 Bars should close by 1 am or earlier. Bars should be held accountable for Nov 13, 2012 10:31 PM patrons drinking and driving or engaging in activities that can cause injury to others. Liquor stores should close by 10 pm -- if you haven't done your shopping by then, you probably are buying for the wrong reasons. Ditto for store owner accountability.

692 current zoning seems to work for my location... it's the walk to/from the bars Nov 13, 2012 10:01 PM that's problematic.

693 Zoning regulations will identify where the worst abuses of alcohol drinking and Nov 13, 2012 8:25 PM this will send a message of warning to other areas.

694 Absolutely not. It is much safer and less disturbing for the neighborhoods to have Nov 13, 2012 8:17 PM people go to a bar or restaurant to drink and, of course, see friends, than if they walk from house party to house party.

695 Absolutely not! Stop making running a business more difficult in Boulder. City Nov 13, 2012 8:07 PM council has gone too far in dictating how we live our lives already.

696 Come on - if we want conservative restrictive laws, we don't live in Boulder. Let Nov 13, 2012 7:48 PM these types of businesses thrive. My property value goes up when downtown is a sweet spot in the region and in the country for that matter. Keep it fun, lively and open.

697 Such places should be the exception and away from residential areas. Nov 13, 2012 7:42 PM

698 More enforcement needs to be done against the drinkers. Like the drinking at CU Nov 13, 2012 7:42 PM during football games. People get trashed at the tailgate events that CU allows. CU then lets them get trashed and then be a problem during the game. CU needs to stop trying to get more money and just say no alcohol at all.

699 We've already repealed most blue state laws. Stepping in a direction that Nov 13, 2012 7:29 PM encourages more liquor prohibition does not encourage safe consumption. It encourages people to move elsewhere to drink in unregulated environments.

700 The theory of these regulations reminds me of when I was in high school and my Nov 13, 2012 7:28 PM girlfriend's parents were real strict about her being out past a certain time at night. I just had more sex with her during the day after school. Get a clue city council.

701 Stop trying to control everything. Nov 13, 2012 7:27 PM

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702 I would support limiting businesses close to the University serving alcohol period, Nov 13, 2012 7:26 PM not only after 11:00. I would close liquor stores earlier as most drinking by underage people are done at house parties.

703 I think that the city makes it difficult enough as it is for these businesses and that Nov 13, 2012 7:24 PM University Hill is disproportionately affected. The students are either directly (through direct sales tax and rent) or indirectly (by funding the professors and faculty that pay property tax and sales tax in boulder) the root cause for Boulder's success. The city treats them like an inconvenience, however, and punishes businesses that try to serve the students. I think that the city needs to recognize that the north end of the University Hill commercial district is surrounded by student housing and that strengthening alcohol restrictions on businesses there won't reduce the number of incidents. It is an inherently noisy and disruptive place, which is why families don't live on 10th and Pleasant Streets, or at least should have noticed all the students when they bought property there. If it becomes more difficult to sell alcohol on University Hill, students travel to Pearl Street and disrupt an even larger number of neighborhoods that aren't primarily occupied by students or they have house parties.

704 Not fair to do so. It is safer for people to drink in public, where there are Nov 13, 2012 7:17 PM regulations. You just need to crack down on DUI offenders. Why not publicize use of taxis or walking to bars?

705 Limit close to university boundaries as well as high schools. Nov 13, 2012 6:28 PM

706 Nothing good happens with alcohol consumption after 11 p.m..... Nov 13, 2012 6:23 PM

707 not the city's realm to pick certain businesses over others Nov 13, 2012 6:23 PM

708 Stop all the nannying around the University Hill area that arises from self serving Nov 13, 2012 6:09 PM residents not wanting normal student activity and enforce existing laws against law breakers. Let businesses serve their beverages to law abiders whenever they have customers and choose to stay open.

709 It wont change the drinking problems, it is bad for small business owners Nov 13, 2012 6:06 PM

710 Food sales are required for establishments that sell liquor after 11 pm. Bars Nov 13, 2012 6:03 PM should close by 1 am.

711 Your biggest problem is that bars all let out at 2am. Until the city realizes that Nov 13, 2012 5:59 PM the "last call' should be dropped, people will continue to push up to the window. If you don't set a limit, people are more likely to manage time and consumption based on a open window for what they want, not a 2am deadline. The city has always refused to look at progressive ideas like this.

712 I believe additional zoning regulations would drive people to seek other locations Nov 13, 2012 5:49 PM for consuming alcohol. This may mean more parties in other parts of Boulder (people's homes/apartments), turning quiet neighborhoods into noisy ones. That would also mean more people driving on the road who could be intoxicated. A restaurant or tavern at least has people who are watching and trying to curb overconsumption. Homes or apartments would have no such oversight. I don't like seeing people on the streets downtown or on The Hill, but that part of

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Boulder is pretty contained and many people can walk home. I would rather see additional 'training' to restaurant and tavern owners and their employees on how to spot someone who has consumed too much alcohol and try and get them to be more vigilant. I understand the approach here, but I think that it would be better served working from the inside out.

713 I would support additional zoning for the University Hill residential and Nov 13, 2012 5:36 PM commercial districts but not for pearl street area. That is supposed to be a place of restaurants and taverns that encourage people to go out.

714 Stop the stupid regulations that make it a pain for businesses that aren't causing Nov 13, 2012 5:36 PM problems.

715 I think things are OK as they are. Nov 13, 2012 5:33 PM

716 Another waste of time. The alcohol drunk at 2am was not bought at 2am. Or Nov 13, 2012 5:30 PM midnight. In fact the problem drinking often involves people who are under-age anyway. More laws and restrictions of this type are useless... the ones we have now don't help, how would more of the same?

717 Unnecessary. Nov 13, 2012 5:28 PM

718 Do not make it harder for small businesses to operate in this town. Nov 13, 2012 5:15 PM

719 'Additional zoning regulations' will only concentrate consumption in places that Nov 13, 2012 5:14 PM have the proper permit. It will not reduce overall consumption -- check your Econ 101. Such measures only discourage legitimate commerce. They would also push consumption to residences, where it is unregulated, and contributes less economic value for the city.

720 Prohibition has never worked. Period. Nov 13, 2012 5:13 PM

721 Pure bullshit. Regulating where and how much I can drink is ridiculous, and a Nov 13, 2012 5:10 PM complete waste of my tax dollars. If further regulations are created, I that hope law suits are filed against every city council member in a federal court.

722 I am against how the city is so set on being friendly with some businesses and Nov 13, 2012 5:04 PM tough on others. Be fair one way or the other.

723 please leave all small businesses alone as much as possible, save the additional Nov 13, 2012 4:55 PM regulations for the banks and false media

724 Why force local small businesses out of town? We like our restaurants and bars. Nov 13, 2012 4:54 PM

725 We don't need our city governing how small businesses operate like that. Nov 13, 2012 4:45 PM Honestly. Do you want businesses to move to Boulder?

726 Let the state regulate! Nov 13, 2012 4:44 PM

727 This is just another tool for NIMBY puritans to use in yet another attempt to Nov 13, 2012 4:37 PM increase their property values.

728 Absolutely not! 2am is already too early to close down evening establishments. Nov 13, 2012 4:36 PM

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729 If you can't implement existing regulations that would help if implemented what is Nov 13, 2012 4:34 PM the purpose of creating new ones?

730 You can't turn boulder into a retirement community. Leave things as they are Nov 13, 2012 4:30 PM and quit trying to create bigger government.

731 I think the current system in place is fine. Nov 13, 2012 4:30 PM

732 I don't support any regulations beyond the state ones -- nothing local is needed. Nov 13, 2012 4:21 PM

733 I don't feel that the problem is great enough to restrict businesses where there Nov 13, 2012 4:13 PM are zero issues and have them affected by the 1 or 2 bars that see the most issues.

734 I have mixed feelings about it. I want the community to be safe, I want Nov 13, 2012 3:57 PM businesses to thrive so I don't know what is best.

735 I would much rather have individuals drinking in bars and establishments which Nov 13, 2012 3:54 PM already provide bouncers and other security (and are concentrated and easily patrolled) than in private houses and frat houses.

736 We should not interfere with free enterprise. Boulder should ENFORCE the laws Nov 13, 2012 3:51 PM that are already on the books and not infringe o my freedoms

737 Leave it to the businesses and enforce current laws. Nov 13, 2012 3:49 PM

738 They are not really the problem. The problem is how do you regulate house Nov 13, 2012 3:48 PM parties where more often the people are under age and not responsible. Most of the businesses already card people and regulate consumption to the best of their ability. It's obviously in their best interest to do so. Attack the real problem!

739 I don't know if those would help or not. Nov 13, 2012 3:44 PM

740 It's patently discriminatory, and vehemently un-american. Nov 13, 2012 3:44 PM

741 I find the above proposals to be too strict and unfair (new businesses would be Nov 13, 2012 3:43 PM more restricted than old business which makes them unfairly able to compete). I've been frustrated by being unable to hang out on pearl street after 10-11pm, even on weekends because all the decent places close ... I'm guessing it is related to restrictions already in place. I don't think it is unreasonable to expect the central part of town to still be active at 11pm on a weekend evening but these suggestions seem like they will make it even deader than it already is.

742 No, why stick it to the establishment when they are just operating a business like Nov 13, 2012 3:41 PM bars in, say, Louisville are doing. We just happen to be a college town.

743 I think the rules that are already place are sufficient. I think there needs to be Nov 13, 2012 3:34 PM thoughtful enforcement of the current laws to prevent the issues outlined in the various news stories.

744 It just will hurt business' and not address the perceived problem Nov 13, 2012 3:32 PM

745 By 11 pm, most drinkers not looking to get crazy have finished for the evening. Nov 13, 2012 3:32 PM Keeping a better handle on where late night drinking occurs could help narrow

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police focus to keep roads and neighborhoods safe.

746 It is ridiculous to impose further regulations. Nov 13, 2012 3:23 PM

747 I think that businesses on University Hill and in downtown Boulder should be Nov 13, 2012 3:22 PM able to serve alcohol after 11pm. If alcohol is being served in a business, the patrons are subject to better regulation and are less likely to be over-served by bartenders than at a house party or in a campus dorm.

748 There's a lot of compelling evidence suggesting that supply-side control efforts Nov 13, 2012 3:17 PM aren't nearly as effective as demand-side efforts, so I think more aggressive awareness campaigns would do more to curb overuse of alcohol. I'm pretty sure that at least half (or more) of binge drinking occurs at house parties anyway, so additional zoning regulations probably wouldn't do that much to reduce the drinking epidemic.

749 Alcohol over consumption is not the problem, lack of personal responsibility is Nov 13, 2012 3:15 PM the problem. You will not be able to address the real problem by trying to control the symptoms.

750 I don't want to hamper businesses unless it's absolutely necessary. Nov 13, 2012 3:15 PM

751 Plenty of good bars and restaurants that aren't a problem, don't want to prevent Nov 13, 2012 3:10 PM quality restaruants from opening

752 Not for new businesses. Existing businesses could be grandfathered and then Nov 13, 2012 3:08 PM the threat of loss of a very valuable asset (grandfathered late night hours) would force the operators to run a better business than we see now, and this would allow a small number of locations available to the late night crowd in reasonably small and manageable numbers. Would also help spread out dispersal of patrons at bar close.

753 Please keep your hands out of our businesses' pockets. Nov 13, 2012 3:07 PM

754 I think that by implementing additional zoning regulations you are only hurting Nov 13, 2012 2:58 PM the city. Students, despite how many regulations you push on them, will continue to drink. The zoning regulations will only hurt the city of Boulder by deterring businesses from opening here. The liquor market here is good money and not serving alcohol could sway a businesses decision to operate here. Don't forget that the students of CU contribute a nice sized sum of sales tax revenue into city coffers. Limiting the businesses where students can go, specifically to buy alcohol, isn't going to curb drinking and it will diminish city profits.

755 Business are have enough regulations and requirements. The BLA does not Nov 13, 2012 2:57 PM take appropriate action, as they are supposed to, with the problem establishments. BLA & Use Review are in place to handle such, but the BLA is ineffective and Use Review is NOT used as it should be.

756 The City needs to partner with the high schools and university to educate Nov 13, 2012 2:56 PM children and young adults on how to responsibly use alcohol. Not legislate against those that already use alcohol responsibly. Don't punish the whole for the actions of the very small minority.

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757 They should have to offer a food menu as long as they are serving alcohol. Nov 13, 2012 2:54 PM

758 I think education is more appropriate via the university and public service Nov 13, 2012 2:49 PM announcements.

759 I don't think it's the businesses that are a problem. Nov 13, 2012 2:38 PM

760 Because, in my opinion, the primary issues that relate to overconsumption of Nov 13, 2012 2:29 PM alcohol result from drinking that does not occur in licensed establishments, I do not see the benefit of added regulations for businesses. Improving compliance to existing regulations is important. The problems don't really stem from business behavior, but rather the behavior of certain customers.

761 We have enough laws on hand. Nov 13, 2012 2:28 PM

762 Businesses selling alcohol is not the problem. Individual consumption patterns Nov 13, 2012 2:27 PM are.

763 creating yet more regulations that businesses have to abide by -- and have to be Nov 13, 2012 2:26 PM somehow enforced -- is a solution looking for a problem, not the other way around. people/students WILL find a way to drink however much they want despite any new measures, and local businesses may be hurt financially as a result (not to mention the potential loss in tax revenue).

764 Yes and no. I don't want to further limit the ability of underage and legal-age Nov 13, 2012 2:25 PM college students/adults from obtaining alcohol, as this would likely further increase overconsumption. Allowing for more 18+ or ever 16+ establishments that serve alcohol would be beneficial to having persons who do overconsume feel more comfortable around alcohol and view and accept proper alcohol consumption behaviors.

765 Perhaps the businesses could take classes in how to spot and deal with people Nov 13, 2012 2:22 PM who have been over-served.

766 Over regulation leads to reduction of freedoms of potential business owners, so Nov 13, 2012 2:22 PM absolutely not. The only increased regulation I support would be making drunk driving a felony.

767 Just like you can't tax your way to eco nirvana, you can't tax away the alcohol Nov 13, 2012 2:19 PM problem. Regulate in one area and the students will just go somewhere else.

768 As stated before,It is not the fault of the businesses that sell alcohol that these Nov 13, 2012 2:18 PM people are drinking too much.If you were to have certain parts of the city stop selling alcohol earlier the drunks will just get in their cars and drive to the places that are open later-which will cause more problems.They will still get alcohol- maybe they will buy more to save for later.Maybe every student should have to take a class that builds character or soul.Maybe they should all be required to do volunteer work.The problem is inside of them-caused perhaps by society or parents.

769 Instead of punishing businesses, let's try helping people take responsibility for Nov 13, 2012 2:15 PM their own choices/actions.

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770 Possibly, but not at additional expense to the business. Nov 13, 2012 2:13 PM

771 Boulder Government over regulates/restricts too much already. You're able to Nov 13, 2012 2:12 PM be open till 2 AM now - and that shouldn't change.

772 No, in reality the best control of drinking is in licensed places. by putting new Nov 13, 2012 2:02 PM blue type laws in effect it will only push people into non controlled environments

773 these folks cannot stop themselves and must be told what to do. Nov 13, 2012 2:02 PM

774 Brilliant idea to quash the new found national respect for the Nov 13, 2012 1:58 PM Boulder/bar/restaurant scene by upping the barriers to entry.

775 Bringing drinking to public places, such as bars and restaurants, is actually safer Nov 13, 2012 1:55 PM than having people drink too much at house parties. In public places there are people around to spot when people are in trouble and bartenders/waiters whose job it is to not serve overly drunk people.

776 I agree with the control of hard liquor. But more important would be actual Nov 13, 2012 1:54 PM enforcement of noise ordinances. Buy a noise meter. Train the cops to use it. Issue tickets. Problem solved.

777 Boulder already has too many regulations. Bigger government is not the answer. Nov 13, 2012 1:52 PM You need to nurture and support small businesses, not persecute them.

778 These business' are open to the public and are there to make money. If there is Nov 13, 2012 1:48 PM a problem, maybe there can be something done at the establishment(s) where they can help maintain their patrons. If they notice an unruly, misbehaving person, why can't thy just call the police instead of kicking that person out? That way those who go out will know that if they get out of hand, there are consequences. Not sure if that will be a good idea though?

779 I don't believe that regulating business and making it harder for businesses to Nov 13, 2012 1:45 PM survive, thrive and open would be a good way to regulate the over-consumption of alcohol by a minority of Boulder residents. If college students (where I see the biggest problem) are going to over-consume they are going to do it regardless of whether the city makes it harder for businesses to get and keep late night licenses. I see this as a way of punishing the masses for the crimes of a few.

780 There needs to be more regulation in order to prohibit this behavior. Nov 13, 2012 1:44 PM

781 Don't punish businesses - punish offenders (i.e., the students who get drunk and Nov 13, 2012 1:41 PM cause problems).

782 IF we have learned anything from our failed attempts at prohibition in the past is Nov 13, 2012 1:37 PM that it doesn't work. "Zoning regulations" are simply a form of prohibition lite.

783 Being a full time musician, if you regulate businesses that sell alcohol after Nov 13, 2012 1:34 PM 11pm, you are going to be taking jobs away from me. It would negatively affect our economy in Boulder. Again, you arent solving the drinking problem, when you can just go to liquor mart and buy what you need.

784 Enforcement is key - you can have all the regs you want if nobody cares. Nov 13, 2012 1:33 PM

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785 I am an adult that pays an increased rent rate in order to live within walking Nov 13, 2012 1:26 PM distance to Pearl St. Increasing regulation is going to either raise costs, reduce options, or create a greater inconvenience for young looking adults.

786 If young people are going to drink, you will not stop them. but you can regulate Nov 13, 2012 1:25 PM the frequency of where that occurs by minimizing some of the congregation points. the hill is one such point. there is spill over from the bars to the frat houses and residents on the hill where students rent.

787 Why punish businesses and cut jobs for people who need them? Nov 13, 2012 1:23 PM

788 Sounds and appears to be a step backward to prohibition. Nov 13, 2012 1:22 PM

789 Regulation of noise coming from the business as well. Nov 13, 2012 1:21 PM

790 Licensed establishments are the best places for people to be drinking. They are Nov 13, 2012 1:14 PM staffed and have oversight (unlike homes, apartments and house parties), and drinks cost more than they would at home, making people at least somewhat less likely to overindulge.

791 Boulder already has the strictest (often bordering on absurd) zoning laws of Nov 13, 2012 1:13 PM anywhere I've ever lived. More won't help.

792 You will ruin a large part of the boulder economy Nov 13, 2012 1:12 PM

793 NOT AT ALL. You're punishing responsible adults and responsible businesses Nov 13, 2012 1:11 PM for the errant behavior of a small population of immature children.

794 Yes, but I would be cautious. I don't feel it makes sense to over penalize tax- Nov 13, 2012 1:11 PM paying businesses. This is like going after the prostitutes instead of the johns. We need better education and consequences for the drinkers.

795 Social engineering on the part of government will not work. Quit trying to micro Nov 13, 2012 1:10 PM manage. This is a college town - get used to it.

796 More frequent review of license; stricter license revocation Nov 13, 2012 1:07 PM

797 By increasing restrictions in public areas, Boulder would reduce the choice for Nov 13, 2012 1:05 PM the average person and drive up problem drinking in residences. This is bad for everyone. I would back increased choice - we live in a beautiful city but there're barely anywhere we can sit outside, enjoy the weather and views, while having a drink.

798 Really doesn't effect me. Nov 13, 2012 1:01 PM

799 I believe the biggest problem is house parties. I think the businesses are already Nov 13, 2012 12:57 PM held to a higher degree of accountability, with their liquor license. Restricting alcohol sales could push even more consumption into the neighborhoods.

800 People don't over drink at bars-they over drink at house parties. Nov 13, 2012 12:55 PM

801 It is not necessary. It would be a waste of resources. Nov 13, 2012 12:51 PM

802 The problems related to overconsumption on the hill seem to stem from Nov 13, 2012 12:48 PM

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unsupervised house parties more thatn businesses serving alcohol.

803 The problem is under aged drinking in the university hill district. Nov 13, 2012 12:45 PM

804 To the extent that there is a problem, I don't think restaurants are the issue. Nov 13, 2012 12:36 PM

805 The problem isn't time of day that these students are able to purchase alcohol. Nov 13, 2012 12:36 PM The problem is the way American culture raises these kids - by telling them that alcohol is forbidden, so as soon as they get to college and away from their parents, they go wild. College students will drink to excess no matter what.

806 As a late night HOP driver I'm responsible for getting the drunk college kids out Nov 13, 2012 12:33 PM of downtown. Having them concentrated in a specific area makes it easier for the police to patrol and easier to get them safely out of the area. It is my opinion that they will find a place to drink regardless of what regulations are put on various establishments. At least this way they have a relatively safe way to get home late at night.

807 I believe this is needed as long is it is applied to all stores/ businesses evenly Nov 13, 2012 12:31 PM and no one is grandfathered in. If new regulations are passed then I believe all existing businesses should only get a small amount of time to comply (e.g. 60 days), not just apply it to their re-application.

808 It is not the right of the government to interfere into personal consumption. Nov 13, 2012 12:31 PM

809 please do not drive more partying to the neighborhoods. Nov 13, 2012 12:31 PM

810 I don't feel like it's the businesses that are primarily responsible - my negative Nov 13, 2012 12:30 PM experiences have been more associated with house parties that disrupt residential areas.

811 repeated review of permits; lower density of permits; revoking of permits Nov 13, 2012 12:30 PM following violations

812 Use the laws on the books if it is proven a businesses is crossing the line with Nov 13, 2012 12:26 PM alcohol.

813 I believe that the current regulations are doing a pretty good job. It is already Nov 13, 2012 12:26 PM quite difficult for businesses that sell alcohol or operate after 11 p.m. Afterall, they are simply filling a demand that is there because people want it. They are adults and might enjoy different things and at different times of the day.

814 Shut down the Liquor Mart, No more alchol from the Circle K near Central Park. Nov 13, 2012 12:19 PM

815 I am sick and tired of the Boulder Council forcing their ideals and beliefs on Nov 13, 2012 12:13 PM others. Stop trying to regulate everyone's behavior, this isn't Stepford!

816 Everything already closes impossibly early in this town. Anything that was done Nov 13, 2012 12:11 PM to discourage places from serving alcohol to members of the community after 11pm would be dumb and not actually solve any problems.

817 I don't see how it is going to change anything. Yes, you could enact extra zoning Nov 13, 2012 12:10 PM regulations and write further legislation, but people who want to drink heavily late at night will find a way to do so whether there are new regulations or not. The

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only thing the regulations would do is hurt businesses.

818 This would have to be carefully considered as to how this would happen Nov 13, 2012 12:10 PM

819 Obviously, the more regulation, the less opportunity for noise, violence, trash, Nov 13, 2012 12:06 PM and all the other problems that come with over consumption.

820 Imposing additional requirements, particularly spacing requirements or additional Nov 13, 2012 11:58 AM reviews, on only specific businesses is not a proper means of addressing overconsumption issues as it improperly harms a valid and legitimate business, many of which are small businesses. Downtown and the Hill are also generally small locations; restricting the number of establishments would only hurt the areas and result in less business and tax revenue. Over-consumption should be addressed at the individual level (or by specific problem business), not the legitimate business level.

821 If the kids don't have anywhere to go late a night they cause trouble, give them Nov 13, 2012 11:58 AM late night options with food and music to keep them out of the neighborhoods

822 it would depend on what they are Nov 13, 2012 11:58 AM

823 I don't believe that there should be minimum distances between "high intensity" Nov 13, 2012 11:54 AM businesses. I think it is better to concentrate those businesses in certain areas.

824 Regulation and enforcement cannot and will not bring about cultural change. Nov 13, 2012 11:53 AM

825 This will just force students to drink more in private residences, which Nov 13, 2012 11:53 AM exacerbates the problem.

826 If the consumer cannot get their 'fix' from a regulated business, they will find Nov 13, 2012 11:28 AM another method that may be worse for the city. Keep current zoning, and toughen enforcement.

827 Make them accountable for the over-intoxication of clients. Nov 13, 2012 11:17 AM

828 It seems that many incidents of alcohol-related crime occur in the early morning Nov 13, 2012 11:14 AM hours.

829 I would support the new use definitions and the late night permits but the others Nov 13, 2012 11:09 AM seem too restrictive/unpredictable for new businesses to open.

830 One size rules are always an easy but poor solution. Identify the problem Nov 13, 2012 11:08 AM operators and take action. 500 feet from the campus border is not significant. Many of the students aren't coming from the campus at night, they are coming from their residences.

831 I like the idea of differentiating between restaurants and bars when deciding Nov 13, 2012 11:08 AM whether that business can have a liquor license.

832 House parties are the problem. It is better if people have drinks in a business. Nov 13, 2012 11:03 AM

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1 I think that the biggest problem area is house parties and that this is where the Dec 2, 2012 5:46 PM most overconsumption occurs due to the free-flowing alcohol and the underage drinking there.

2 My understanding is that there are houses on the hill that allow many students to Nov 30, 2012 12:12 PM live together. This is probably a huge source of the underage overconsumption that occurs in Boulder. I was quite worried about noise when I moved here for law school, and I was pleased that noise ordinances at least in my neighborhood are well enforced. I haven't seen too much of a problem with overconsumption during my experience in Boulder. Before school started, my neighborhood was a bit dirty probably from partying , which I thought was unappealing. I was surprising more wasn't done by the local government.

3 Educate on how to be responsible and punish offenders who are not but you Nov 30, 2012 11:19 AM don't solve a problem by taking away rights that will just lead people to finding other places to drink like homes.

4 Over consumption of alcohol is not a problem in Boulder. However, closing bars Nov 30, 2012 9:30 AM and restaurants earlier so that they are less able to serve alcohol will only incentivize large house parties and late night trips to liquor stores while taking business away from local bars and restaurants.

5 Education about the consequences of over consumption is the best solution! Not Nov 30, 2012 8:31 AM more regulation

6 There need to be guidelines and restrictions to Frat and Sorority parties as well Nov 29, 2012 11:28 PM as other residences that encourage underage and unsafe drinking.

7 Increasing public knowledge and awareness of a problem is the only way to Nov 29, 2012 11:27 PM effectively deal with these problems. If these changes are made, the alcohol related problems won't go away. The only consequence will be hurting the businesses.

8 If there is a problem establishment, deal with it on a case by case basis. That is Nov 29, 2012 10:31 PM the whole idea of having individual licensing. You can't hold respectable business owners responsible for another person's actions. Boulder has a long history of over regulation and attempting to change its citizens behavior with laws. That is not in the spirit of this country or this county. A few council members who live on The Hill have completely distorted views of this issue and have routinely created issues from nothing. Try visiting places like Austin, TX with much more liberal views on public drinking and you'll not only find a bar scene 100x larger than Boulder's, but similar levels of problems (or less) since there is not an expectation of peace and quiet in a neighbor directly adjacent to a business district as old and the neighborhood. It's not like The Hill and college student didn't exist prior to this decade. TO be honest, this sounds like par for the course for Boulder... more worried about their own prudish and selfish needs over the health of the business community and completely expected. Try taking the high road for a change and come out in favor of our community's long loved institutions rather than a few whiny people who should know better. If I moved next to a hospital, should I be allowed to complain about the sirens and have them banned?

9 Grow up, people. You were young once. Nov 29, 2012 10:25 PM

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10 None--I don't think it is the city's place to impose these regulations. Nov 29, 2012 9:44 PM

11 This is ridiculous. Even considering some kind of action or legislation is a job and Nov 29, 2012 9:39 PM business killer, which is something we can't afford in this economy. How about taking some personal responsibility instead of enforcing some sort of authoritarian rule that won't do anything in the long run?

12 more resources for businesses to dispose of overly intoxicated patrons, more Nov 29, 2012 9:32 PM effective alcohol education programs for students at the university, dont turn boulder into a nanny state and ostracize a large portion of our residents by targeting them with bureaucracy.

13 None of these are the way to approach over-consumption of alcohol (which is a Nov 29, 2012 9:30 PM problem, but the way this survey is presented, it does not give you reasonable alternatives to answer). Restricting access to alcohol/increasing enforcement of various kinds is only going to isolate the problem to private residences where things are significantly more dangerous. I'm new to this school and I am alarmed that such things are being considered.

14 I think the alcohol education class freshman must take, as I did, were enough to Nov 29, 2012 9:22 PM educate people on the dangers of over consumption; but I do not believe it is a problem.

15 The same people who think regulations on businesses will lead to less drinking Nov 29, 2012 9:15 PM are the same people who deny global warming or think that letting gays marry will destroy straight people's marriages.

16 Current laws feel effective, if an establishment has repeated issue, take action. Nov 29, 2012 8:41 PM Creating laws and zoning across the board feels like overkill and nanny-ism. Aged adults should be held accountable for their actions, businesses should not be punished.

17 Encourage responsible behavior from the undergrads. This town is a safe haven Nov 29, 2012 5:16 PM for irresponsible undergrads.

18 I think that cracking down on areas (such as the hill) would help. However, due Nov 29, 2012 5:10 PM to the difficulty in identifying those who over-imbibe from outside a home based on noise or neighbor reporting, it may be best to increase the number of officers doing foot patrols and welfare checks.

19 Nothing pleases a balcony crowd more than watching drunken morons get Nov 29, 2012 4:06 PM hauled to jail. Good for business, good for the community.

20 Restricting hard alcohol is the only Hill-specific regulation that I would support-- Nov 29, 2012 4:03 PM that seems like a good idea. The other options seem like they would encourage home/frat drinking, where there are even less controls on overconsumption than at a bar (bartender, bouncers, pocketbook limitations, social stigma of being in public). It could also increase drunk driving if people who live on the Hill chose to go out in other areas of Boulder instead of walking to one in their own neighborhood.

21 Creating additional zoning laws or limiting the ability of responsible of age adults Nov 29, 2012 3:35 PM from accessing alcohol is not going to decrease or have minimal impact on over

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consumption of alcohol. Limiting the access on locations such as "the hill" will only encourage purchasers of alcohol to travel farther from their residences. This has the likely hood of increasing drivers under the influence and also forces people who are legally allowed to consumer alcohol to travel to new locations. Limiting sales on the hill or in surrounding neighborhoods of the University will only push consumption of alcohol to different locations. This will also hurt businesses on the hill. A small business thrives on the ability for students and adults to be able to utilize their services at many hours of the day. Restricting businesses only hinders the entrepreneurs and employers who are trying to add value and tax revenue to the city. The current zoning regulations cover noise, alcohol and disturbances. Adding additional laws only creates additional enforcement requirements, increasing costs to the city and decreasing the ability of small businesses to hire residents.

22 Please no more police enforcement or intensified regulation. Education is the Nov 29, 2012 3:32 PM key for addressing alcohol consumption "problems". I don't think there is a problem in Boulder, but if you must do something to appease the parents and organizations that have made it an issue, do so in a constructive manner.

23 If the issue is that homeowners on the Hill are tired of drunk college students, Nov 29, 2012 3:09 PM then increase enforcement of public drunkenness. If the issue is that some business owners on the Hill are not complying with the law, then increase enforcement on business establishments. There are plenty of tools available to address these issues.

24 If any increased police presence is warranted I would suggest focusing on overly Nov 29, 2012 3:05 PM loud house parties. Primarily I think the police should focus on keeping everyone safe - random DD checkpoints seem to be useful. I completely oppose the use of restrictive and punitive time constraints on business operation as being ineffective and a crappy idea. Whoever suggested it should be ashamed of what an old fart they have become.

25 I think crime is worse in the Hill area and there should be more police presence Nov 29, 2012 3:03 PM to keep students walking (and not driving) safe

26 Limiting only beer and wine sales will just mean people will drink more wine and Nov 29, 2012 2:56 PM beer. That is not an answer.

27 If you increase the police presence you are simply asking for another riot. The Nov 29, 2012 2:54 PM hill police team does a great job now. If you disincentivise people going to bars, you effectively encourage unregulated house parties. In turn, police will be coming to private residences, creating the same situation that led to riots in the past. Also, drunk driving in residential neighborhoods will drastically increase. With more people wandering the residential streets, this combination turns deadly.

28 Education. Nov 29, 2012 2:46 PM

29 If you just feel you have money to burn, and really want to waste some cash, Nov 29, 2012 2:45 PM then spend it on educating young drinkers. Not "education" in the arch- conservative sense (E.g., "drinking is bad, don't do it."), but education in the real- world sense. Abstinence is unrealistic, and dangerous to boot. Parents should be encouraged to expose their children to alcohol and the issues around over-

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drinking early, and to educate their children. When a kid's first drink is at the age of 16-21, and it is with his/her friends, they are being set up to abuse it.

30 Maybe the City Council should actually solve some real problems facing the city Nov 29, 2012 2:42 PM instead of using their position of authority to legislate morality, hamstring entrepreneurs, and demonize the young.

31 I don't think over consumption of alcohol is a problem. Nov 29, 2012 2:42 PM

32 Increase police responding to noise violations/ drunk in public for underage Nov 29, 2012 2:39 PM students in particular.

33 Control the homeless population especially the ones by boulder high school. Nov 29, 2012 9:43 AM They drunkenly tell at people and its disturbing and frightening especially to young high school and college women. This is a college town where people are going to drink. Re zoning won't do anything. If you see the university area as a problem, crack down harder on alaochol use with minors and the rampant illegal drug use which seems to go un addressed because "everyone's" doing it.

34 Make it easier for late night businesses that don't sell alcohol (e.g. coffee shops, Nov 28, 2012 10:02 PM some restaurants), or don't sell alcohol past 11 pm, to operate after 11 pm. Work with CU to promote night events that are appealing to college students and other young adults that have little or no alcohol. If drinking is the best available option for students and young adults, it's what they'll do.

35 education, specifically at the university and in the dorms Nov 28, 2012 7:21 PM

36 Focus on private parties that are not operating responsibly. Nov 28, 2012 7:18 PM

37 1) Implement harsher penalties for underage consumption as well as for typical Nov 28, 2012 6:37 PM alcohol-induced problems such as noise and property damage. 2) Apply an additional city-level tax on all alcohol products. Use this revenue to pay for additional police enforcement on weekends and special events (e.g. sporting events). 3) Promote the use of cannabis as a healthier and more fun alternative to alcohol.

38 I believe education is most important. If people want to drink, they'll find a way Nov 28, 2012 5:03 PM to do it. It's not fair to the people who aren't a problem to have increased police enforcement. Education to the dangers of what the negative effects may be is the only way to get through to the problem people.

39 Leave us alone. Nov 28, 2012 4:21 PM

40 I think the BLA needs to operate within its established guidelines more Nov 28, 2012 11:36 AM effectively, or be disbanded. I feel the current BLA doesn't have a good understanding of their own authority and tries to exceed that authority.

41 Enforcement is what causes the problems. Biased surveys like this are a terrible Nov 28, 2012 11:13 AM way to get an accurate public opinion.

42 I don't believe any of the above are effective solutions to binge drinking. Over Nov 28, 2012 10:47 AM drinking has nothing to do with how close bars are together, or how close to the University they are. There are buses that will take you downtown from campus

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within minutes. Location and zoning has nothing to do with the attitude those who drink at a dangerous level.

43 see response to question 9: *I support separating restaurants and Bar/Taverns. Nov 28, 2012 10:43 AM *I do not support revoking the 500ft from Universities resolution. *I think periodic reviews could be helpfull, but more interested in their being an avenue through which complaints may be issued and lead to a review if necessary, rather than mandatory reviews. *I do not support spacing requirements, I think it is good to have some concentration of businesses. On the other-hand I would like to see smaller relaxed pubs throughout the city which could reduce driving issues as Participants can walk to local venues.

44 a little constructive feedback, a lot of the questions aren't grammatically correct. Nov 28, 2012 9:09 AM 1, 2, 10

45 Do not revoke the 500 ft exemption. That will cause significant increase in the Nov 28, 2012 7:46 AM value of current businesses that are grandfathered - and allow for no turnover to better establishments.

46 Train employees of liquor stores to recognize fake IDs, or increase enforcement Nov 27, 2012 11:36 PM of fake IDs

47 Restrict quantity of alcohol that may be served to individuals through regulations Nov 27, 2012 9:30 PM or increased enforcement. If someone can't walk and/or is puking, they were given too much alcohol

48 All of these are completely unnecessary, cost more tax money, and don't even Nov 27, 2012 9:27 PM fix the problem

49 Check for fake IDs Nov 27, 2012 9:22 PM

50 Put more trash cans on the hill residential neighborhood. Have zoning Nov 27, 2012 9:11 PM regulations about TRASH. and bottles

51 Have the university be stricter about enforcing its policy of no alcohol being Nov 27, 2012 9:04 PM allowed on campus.

52 We are going about this backwards. Nov 27, 2012 8:45 PM

53 More police in commercial areas will be bad for business. People will just Nov 27, 2012 8:43 PM assume they are there because "something happened" and may take their business somewhere else. Also, what about just running buses to and from Denver later and promoting Denver nightlife? Literally just shuttle the binge drinkers to and from Denver's bar district and let their police clean up after them.

54 educational programs Nov 27, 2012 8:31 PM

55 The behavior of people (overconsumption) should not result in sanctions or Nov 27, 2012 8:31 PM unfair targeting of certain businesses. Please educate, and enforce on the individual level.

56 There is NO problem in Boulder this survey is completely random. Nov 27, 2012 5:39 PM

57 That seems to be were they have had some problems. People will have a routine Nov 27, 2012 4:21 PM

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of having a drink "pre" party before they go out and then make the rounds and then have "after hours" parties. This uncontrolled environment of drinking is when some people over serve themselves.

58 If the City truly feels that over consumption is an issue in Boulder, they should Nov 27, 2012 3:36 PM probably research what the problem areas and businesses actually are, discover the deeper issues of where such over consumption is stemming from, and focus on business and areas that are actually an issue. It seems silly to waste city budgets, time and resources to penalize businesses that are currently functioning within the realm of City and State Liquor Laws.

59 I think the problem is that on the hill there is a mix of million dollar homes with Nov 27, 2012 10:36 AM families and college students renting out house across the street. The problem is the rental agencies and the homeowners(mostly out of state) that own these properties that allow them to be ruined by stuffing 5+ college kids in to these houses. If these rental houses were better kept up and the homeowners/rental agencies did there part to promote responsible renters then this wouldn't be a problem. Where else can a bunch of college students rent out houses that would be worth way over a half a million dollars if they were kept up.

60 unsure Nov 27, 2012 9:41 AM

61 Over consumption of alcohol is typical at many universities, this is not unique to Nov 27, 2012 9:40 AM Boulder.

62 I think handing out fines (or some other punishment) to the worst, most Nov 27, 2012 6:46 AM belligerent offenders would be much more just (and probably effective) than cracking down on everyone's late-night enjoyment due to the idiots of the world.

63 Marijuana is now a much bigger problem. The City of Boulder should not have Nov 26, 2012 8:37 PM approved so many dispensaries. But they were greedy for the tax dollars and now our youth will suffer for it. They sold out to the "devil" for tax dollars. Sorry but true.

64 Let me tell you. Boulder is one of the safest, least intoxicated cities in the world. Nov 26, 2012 7:16 PM We just need to put our heads together and come up with more important issues than over-consumption of alcohol to put into regulation. Lets work to become energy independent. Lets set the standard on labeling GMO's. There are more important issues than trying to pull the harness tighter on our small businesses.

65 The city, state, and university need to do a better job at teaching our youth how Nov 26, 2012 6:02 PM to party responsibly. Trying to limit businesses selling alcahol will not solve the problem. We need to stop blaming and begin to teach. It will take time and persistence. For example it has taken years for our children to learn not to drink and drive. Which I believe most ,99%, do. Just look at the taxi line on pearl street when bars close. Maybe we need more cabs or bus service.

66 I would oppose additional regulations. Nov 26, 2012 5:16 PM

67 I see the biggest need of regulation through house parties occurring near the Nov 26, 2012 3:58 PM Hill. Too many underage students are obtaining alcohol illegally at these events and some more regulation should occur.

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68 There are plenty of tools in place. Enforcement can be stepped up. Tying Nov 26, 2012 2:45 PM licensing to zoning in not an idea I am in favor of.

69 Proper enforcement will take a concentrated effort for a few years. Once Nov 26, 2012 2:01 PM institutionalized it won't be a problem. Look to other university communities that have better results with alcohol policy.

70 Help us stay safe. Encourage responsibility. Nov 26, 2012 1:51 PM

71 Restrict the amount of hard liquor that can be bought at one time. This would Nov 26, 2012 1:31 PM target the frats. But this cultural problem can't be solved completely with mechanistic solutions-- there has to be cultural intervention.

72 DECREASE POLICE ENFORCEMENT OF ALCOHOL. It's a waste of tax dollars Nov 26, 2012 1:30 PM and plays a role in ruining some college students' lives and future careers, this in turn makes the University's degree have less worth to it.

73 It is not the alcohol that is the problem. People need to be educated on when Nov 26, 2012 1:13 PM enough is enough. For those of us who have been at age to drink for some time, know that there is a point between getting the "desired effect" and having so much to drink that you are beyond controlling yourself. Students need to be educated that it is cool to "let go," NOT get "wasted." Let's be real, it would be nearly impossible to keep every from over drinking, but we can make it so people so individuals take responsibility. We, in the end, are responsible for our own behavior. We have no one but ourselves to blame.

74 Please do not cater to vocal boneheads but rather get a grasp on the issues that Nov 26, 2012 12:51 PM will effect Boulders long term viability. I see this as more obsfucation.

75 The over consumption problem is disproportionately caused by under-age Nov 26, 2012 12:07 PM drinkers who don't have experience. I believe businesses should be held fully accountable for enforcing the law and the existing operating agreements and city approval conditions; but the proposed policy changes above would only affect the most responsible drinkers without addressing the real problems at all. The Hill Association wants to keep drunks out of residential areas. Making residential areas the only place to consume alcohol is the stupidest solution I've ever heard.

76 Focus on operators that have NOT complied well with the current laws and are Nov 26, 2012 11:40 AM recurring problem businesses. Do NOT restrict those who follow the rules

77 None of the tools mentioned above are reasonable, and they will not be effective Nov 26, 2012 10:36 AM at reducing overconsumption of alcohol. Instead, reduce the sentence for alcohol violations and encourage students to use the Good Samaritan Law in protection for helping a friend. Additionally, have a police force that abides in protecting bystanders or friends using the Good Samaritan. Also, encourage students who do have a history of overconsumption to get counseling.

78 Just serve beer/wine at the bars on the hill and hard liquor downtown and on Nov 26, 2012 10:20 AM pearl. It's not hard.

79 None of the above; heavy-handedness will not deter behavior. Instead, it will Nov 26, 2012 9:56 AM drive students to more underground binge-drinking.

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80 I think that street lighting in the Hill area contributes to the amount of unlawful Nov 26, 2012 9:25 AM behavior, I believe that there is a sense of anonymity that young people feel because of the darkened streets, I think that better lighting could cut down on the amount of unlawful conduct we see, it would also contribute to a safer environment on the hill for residents and those just passing through.

81 I don't think it's much of a problem, but businesses that don't comply with Nov 26, 2012 8:52 AM existing regulations should be scrutinized more closely and it never hurts to step up police presence around the areas where alcohol is typically consumed.

82 Increase police enforcement where the problem is at that moment. for the most Nov 26, 2012 8:48 AM part residential areas should be left alone unless there is a noise issue...and that should be judged by where/what the location is. One should expect that an area with high student concentration will have more parties later in the evening. Perhaps a zone of tolerance on the Hill may help contain the partying...set up a place where people who feel bothered can walk in and complain, such as the annex Police office on the Hill. I may have a bad memory, but in the 70's when there was an attitude of tolerance as long as no one was getting hurt was in play and younger people were not forced to go underground to drink a lot in a hurry we had far fewer issues.

83 This is a cultural problem. I would encourage the city to find ways to engage the Nov 26, 2012 8:34 AM community in conversations inclusive both of those who drink and those who are impacted by over-consumption of alcohol. Fewer alcohol-selling establishments may help. Increased use of Restorative Justice models for sanctions may also help. I don't necessarily think beer/wine is safer than hard alcohol.

84 Why can't people just be responsible Nov 26, 2012 1:28 AM ELIBFERHFEWWIUNFWEJKMFWKLEAE,L;

85 I would make the repercussions for businesses that allow minors to consume Nov 25, 2012 9:20 PM much more strict, such as taking away their license to sell alcohol for an extended time period, so that the business is held more accountable and required to have people at the door checking for IDs at their own cost, not the cost of the city/taxpayers. Also, increased police enforcement would be ideal in well-known program areas, especially uncover for house parties.Also, working with the University Greek leadership team to enforce similar strict rules would also be ideal to help stop over consumption of alcohol. Most importantly, though, the best method would be to educate students on the repercussions of what may occur with repeated alcohol use as minors as well as responsible drinking, as some will not stop completely but may limit the number of drinks upon learning of the dangers.

86 I think there is an overreaction to the problem, but if we were to take additional Nov 25, 2012 9:18 PM measures, it would be through law enforcement, not by making sweeping and damaging changes to existing laws and regulations.

87 Over consumption of alcohol is not a problem in Boulder. The problem lies with Nov 25, 2012 7:56 PM people who make poor decisions. Limiting business in Boulder will only limit the City's potential.

88 I believe that people should be aware of their decisions. If you should choose to Nov 25, 2012 6:50 PM become a problem due to alcohol over consumption, which happens mainly in

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private residences, that is when the police should step in and enforce noise policies and alcohol laws.

89 Kids over consume because of all the regulations you fucking retards Nov 25, 2012 6:16 PM

90 Ugh, police is not the answer, and boulder police tend to make a bad situation Nov 25, 2012 11:22 AM worse.

91 The limitations on underage drinking create an obvious symptom of lack of Nov 25, 2012 9:13 AM access to underage students wishing to drink. Access to booze when it occurs leads to binge drinking instead of responsible behaviors. Putting more students out on the street will only lead to more binge drinking and a spike in alcohol consumption.

92 I think these ideas are poor. Alcohol isn't evil. Nov 24, 2012 5:19 PM

93 Reduce drinking age to 18 for beer and wine - just as before... Nov 24, 2012 9:52 AM

94 the problem is with the citizens, hurting businesses and further advancing a Nov 24, 2012 3:40 AM police state environment is not the solution.

95 If over consumption of alcohol results in PUBLIC problems, such as violence or Nov 23, 2012 8:29 PM disorderly conduct, than those problems should be dealt with by police enforcement that keeps the public safety in mind. That kind of solution applies to the scope of the problem as it relates to the public, and it solves the problem without affecting any member of the public's individual rights. The proposals to restrict the sale of alcohol in certain areas, which has been defined elsewhere as University Hill, would inconvenience people living in those areas, including students who are over the age of 21. Such policy is furthermore a regressive policy harming the poor, as lower income residents do not necessarily have the means to afford an automobile that higher income residents could use to drive to a store farther away (in contrast to simply walking to a store in the vicinity).

96 The only thing you can do is try to do more education on campus, mostly for the Nov 23, 2012 7:17 PM safety of women.

97 remember prohibition in the 1920s, if you make the laws more strict add more Nov 23, 2012 5:20 PM police, it doesn't make the problem better, if someone is going to drink then they will drink. It is hard to regulate everyone to see how much they drink and if they over drink. Also who is the judge that says someone has "over consumed alcohol, were do you draw the line.

98 any additional regulations to the municipal code, specifically land-use regulations Nov 23, 2012 4:11 PM whether specific to the hill or other areas/neighborhoods: - will not necessarily address current problems of overconsumption and/or "problem" operators - will push alcohol consumption into private residence and house parties where consumption and behavior is unmonitored - will unduly impact new business owners and discourage business growth and overall health of the business community on the hill - will potentially "push" problems to other areas. ie. if establishments on the hill are forced to close at 11 am, young adults will migrate downtown (or to other areas), thusly impacting additional bordering neighborhoods and require even more police resources i believe that the area of attention and resources need to be focused on enforcement and education.

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there are existing regulations in the municipal code that are not currently being used and/or enforced such as nuisance party violations and enforcement and specifically the BLA revoking and suspending licenses of operators who constantly are noncompliant or present a public risk to the community. creating regulations to police a few "bad operators" by impacting the hospitality community as a whole and all 260-ish licensees just does not make sense.

99 I think that any illegal behavior that results from "alcohol over consumption" Nov 23, 2012 10:41 AM should be punished, but it is not the government's job to get involved earlier. Let people drink as much as they want, but as soon as they infringe on someone else's right then you punish that infringement, not the alcohol part.

100 I think the only problem is over consumption at house parties. It can also be Nov 23, 2012 10:29 AM unsafe for drug usage and with no professionals to oversee every one and watch for problems it can spiral out of control.

101 Address this problem where it can make a difference. Focus on the people with Nov 23, 2012 9:38 AM the problems and get them the help they need. Don't make arbitrary rules stiffling small business.

102 II do not find the option of choices agreeable. But I can't exit the survey without Nov 22, 2012 10:14 AM picking one. So I picked none of the above - though the answer puts words in my mouth. The issue is related to the drinking age now being 21. Binge drinking has risen as an issue in direct relation to it. I think focusing on education, using alcohol responsibly is more primed to yield results than more of the less than successful "zero tolerance" approach Boulder has tried previously. College students drank at CU in the 1920's during prohibition. They drank there in the 1950's/60's when Boulder was dry, they drink there now with a 21 drinking age. College students drink - that's not going to change. This isn't a survey. It's a push poll

103 There are already enough restrictions on alcohol here. There are more than Nov 21, 2012 10:29 PM enough police officers already, considering that there are two squad cars for every pulled over vehicle (only place in the country where I've seen this occur...on a REGULAR BASIS!)

104 See comment on #9. Nov 21, 2012 8:20 PM

105 I've lived in college towns all my life. I've been a college student. This is nothing Nov 21, 2012 4:03 PM extra-ordinary---it is NORMAL!! Educate the students. Better yet, educate parents to get their kids drinking the European way so when they get to college they already know what the hell they're doing, alcohol-wise. Get police out if it makes you feel better. But STOP REGULATING THINGS! You can't prevent people from drinking (LOOK AT PROHIBITION).

106 It's a public health problem, and should be treated as such. More counseling Nov 21, 2012 3:44 PM services, and a PR push to make substance abuse counseling socially acceptable are the only solutions with any promise. More money to set up confrontations between the city and police on one side, and young people and business owners on the other side is not the answer.

107 Use existing regulations to address predatory business practices. Add additional Nov 21, 2012 3:31 PM regulations as needed.

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108 catch drunk drivers everywhere and anywhere; police noise and trash (from Nov 21, 2012 1:18 PM parties) issues in neighborhoods

109 THE EIGHTH IS THE POLICEMAN'S! "Three bowls do I mix for the temperate: Nov 21, 2012 12:26 PM one to health, which they empty first; the second to love and pleasure; the third to sleep. When this bowl is drunk up, wise guests go home. The fourth bowl is ours no longer, but belongs to violence; the fifth to uproar; the sixth to drunken revel; the seventh to black eyes; the eighth is the policeman's; the ninth belongs to biliousness; and the tenth to madness and the hurling of furniture."- from 375 BC play Semele or Dionysus by Eubulus

110 This is not a planning issue. It is an issue of enforcement. I believe that single- Nov 21, 2012 12:00 PM family zone should be rezoned to allow for more density and better transition for commercial/mixed-use areas. Enforce the rule that are currently in place and better define the line between town/gown. Boulder is College Town and world class City it got that way by being excepting and progressive. If you don't like call for the City to enforce its rules or move.

111 College students drink. Trying to limit their drinking at businesses just means Nov 21, 2012 10:10 AM that they will drink at home and be as noisy and rambunctious as ever. The only people you are hurting are the businesses.

112 It's the police job to enforce laws. Not a bunch of wealthy people sitting around Nov 21, 2012 10:03 AM a round table. You make the laws, they enforce. I almost never see a police officer on the hill. You want to change this binge drinking. Put a couple officers on foot in every major "binge drinking" area. The site of a cop greatly sobers most people up.

113 Even with a great amount of alcohol consumption at times, the majority of people Nov 21, 2012 10:01 AM and students in Boulder are great people, and it is a very safe place compared to many others. I don't believe that there should be any stricter laws in Boulder or alcohol prevention. Our greatest concern should be safety and health education for those who do decide to drink.

114 More cops in problem neighborhoods would help this and a number of other Nov 21, 2012 9:51 AM issues such as the repeated attacks on bike paths, house parties, fights on the hill, etc. I think those cause more of a disturbance than a bar being open past 11.

115 More oversight on campus, tighter control or restrictions on and programs for Nov 21, 2012 9:10 AM homeless with alcohol addiction issues.

116 Please see above Nov 20, 2012 11:53 PM

117 Again, this question is terribly constructed. Our relationship to alcohol is a Nov 20, 2012 11:19 PM cultural issue that ought be addressed through education. Your omission of any such option and implication that "none-of-the-above" must be paired with denial of the problem is totally ridiculous. This survey is invalid and you should be ashamed of yourselves for presenting it as anything other than a thinly veiled justification for a predetermined Hill crackdown. You are the problem.

118 Do less, I don't need a babysitter. Nov 20, 2012 10:26 PM

119 The City of Boulder is focusing too much attention on consumption of alcohol. If Nov 20, 2012 8:28 PM

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anything knowledge is the most powerful tool and the focus should be on educating the public on responsible drinking practices. Restricting selling alcohol didn't work in the prohibition and it won't work now. The police already focus too much on giving out MIPs. There has been a considerable increase in the amount of violence in Boulder especially on the hill in the last few years and students don't feel safe. Police should focus more on keeping people safe than meeting quotas for alcohol related tickets. Businesses should not be penalized even more, but if some aren't complying with the laws, then those are isolated cases and the city should not penalize a whole area with zoning laws. If alcohol consumption is such a problem and trying to cure the symptoms by giving kids tickets and cracking down is not working, then the city must try and get at the cause. EDUCATION is what is needed. Students are not going to stop drinking, this is an unrealistic goal. Then in order to prevent the hazards related with drinking, there must be more done to educate people on the consumption of alcohol and let them be responsible citizens and make the right decisions on their own.

120 Go after the businesses that sell to underage drinkers or provide alcoholic Nov 20, 2012 8:11 PM beverages to obviously intoxicated patrons.

121 The problems of overconsumption can easily be traced back to the University Hill Nov 20, 2012 7:43 PM area of Boulder, and more specifically to the house party culture that has been institutionalized in that area. Increase police enforcement of regulations pertaining to house parties. The bars downtown and in The Hill Business District aren't responsible for the majority of the issues that the new regulations are aiming to address, so adding onerous ordinances to businesses that contribute to the University dependent economy of Boulder seems like an ill-advised move

122 Lower the drinking age Nov 20, 2012 7:42 PM

123 It is simple psychology. By demonizing and mystifying and prohibiting alcohol Nov 20, 2012 6:49 PM use, you simple funnel curiosity and behavior into farther more remote corners. The City of Boulder would do a lot better by taking proactive, common sense approaches to alcohol education. MIP's are fairly effective, but do nothing for children who are completely financially supported by their parents. The most important thing the CoB can do is to decriminalize any act that threatens the life of a person due to over consumption. Complete amnesty for both the person who is overly intoxicated and any individuals who bring them to authorities or a hospital. There is nothing to be gained from having students and friends be too scared to bring an alcohol poisoned colleague to a hospital over simply the fear of "getting in trouble."

124 I think education not regulation is the answer. College students that want to Nov 20, 2012 6:25 PM make reckless decisions about drinking are going to do so whether or not businesses are more heavily regulated. Furthermore, it punishes the businesses for an individual's bad choices

125 Regulate the Greek parties. Have you ever been in one of those houses? More Nov 20, 2012 6:04 PM crimes occur in a single frat party than police catch on the streets in a single night. Unlimited, free alcohol to the young, impressionable freshman girls is the main source of evil for Boulder nightlife.

126 take a problem bar, like the goose, and make an example of it. Nov 20, 2012 6:03 PM

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127 Alcoholism is the issue at hand. Those who create a disturbance need to be Nov 20, 2012 6:02 PM properly dealt with through punishment or alcoholism support.

128 Educate people so they understand the health and social risks taken when Nov 20, 2012 5:51 PM alcohol is consumed.

129 I agree with the first part, not the second. If our community would really like to Nov 20, 2012 5:51 PM curb over consumption they need to make a larger effort to teach responsibility in schools, most kids are thrust into drinking and partying without any prior knowledge or experience, it ends bad.

130 I dont believe those drinking in business and restaurants around boulder to be Nov 20, 2012 5:50 PM problematic. Obviously, established laws need to be supported. However, business both on the hill and around boulder in general, are pretty good about adhering to all such regulations. Over-drinking is much more problematic in homes, both before and after people go to bars. This needs to be addressed, but putting the blame on establishments is not the right way.

131 none of these idea's seem like a good idea think a little harder that's what we Nov 20, 2012 5:47 PM pay you for

132 decreased police enforcement then maybe the cops won't be looking for Nov 20, 2012 5:41 PM problems that don't really exist

133 I would only support police enforcement in residential neighborhoods if it doesn't Nov 20, 2012 5:30 PM prevent them from dealing with other higher priority situations. As a woman I prefer that businesses and restaurants can stay open till 2AM so that there are people out and about and I'm not walking home on darkened business streets on Friday and Saturday night. Keep the partying at the bars and keep them open so people are tired and quiet when they get home.

134 Students are going to drink no matter what, changing the rules and regulations Nov 20, 2012 5:27 PM for local businesses to serve alcohol will only move alcohol consumption into unsafer conditions. This will probably only increase unsafe alcohol consumption. What the city should do is make public transportation accessible during the night, and promote a media campaign to practice safe drinking.

135 Enforce exisiting city laws and punish the "problem business" establishments.... Nov 20, 2012 5:10 PM We don't need new laws....

136 I do believe that alcohol overconsumption is a social ill that should be addressed, Nov 20, 2012 5:09 PM but I strongly disagree with the notion that business regulation can change people's behavior. Making businesses and their customers jump through hoops to access alcohol will do nothing to change people's behaviors. The time and money that could be potentially wasted—both by businesses and customers—in dealing with new regulations would be much better spent on an a campaign to educate the community about the social effects of alcohol overconsumption.

137 It's random and not that big of deal. Nov 19, 2012 8:39 PM

138 Again, the businesses are catering to over 21 crowd. Need address the under Nov 19, 2012 7:41 PM 21 crowd.

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139 Again, If you believe alcohol consumption is a problem then it is because it is a Nov 19, 2012 6:10 PM problem when there is no one around that has a liquor license to worry about (house parties, pregaming, etc...). No change in regulations will fix that. The businesses cut people off and deny entry all the time. They are doing what they are supposed to be doing.

140 The city of Boulder has already become too conservative in it's views. The laws Nov 19, 2012 12:56 PM being passed by city council often serve only the very rich that already live priviledged lives. Please keep your laws off my town.

141 tough one! Nov 19, 2012 12:54 PM

142 Let's make sure we are respecting that adults can drink legally. When there are Nov 19, 2012 12:53 PM public incidents, we should enforce rules that prevent these incidents from happening in the first place.

143 Alcohol is legal. The city has a number of laws and regulations in place that Nov 18, 2012 10:04 PM address alcohol. These regulations address use of alcohol by individuals and the businesses that sell alcohol. I do not think additional rules that target specific businesses are the answer. Let's educate people about responsible alcohol use and quit targeting businesses in one location in this city.

144 I wish instead of the police concentrating on arresting drunk kids, instead they Nov 18, 2012 7:31 PM focused on the safety of the population. There needs to be an increased support system for safe transport as well as the population receiving support, not fear of the police

145 The problem stems not from availability of alcohol, but the attitude with which Nov 18, 2012 3:19 PM alcohol is consumed in private homes. Overconsumption in business can ABSOLUTELY be stopped via regulation. The City of Boulder could revoke all liquor/beer/wine licenses in the entire Uni-Hill and Downtown districts. Regulation to do so, however, would not solve the problem of overconsumption, however. On the contrary, it would decrease sales tax and license revenue for the city, and would actually cause increased costs for emergency responders to spread out and respond to overconsumption at private homes distributed over a much larger area.

146 Please don't change this town. I have no sympathy for middle aged people that Nov 18, 2012 1:47 PM purchase houses on the hill and then complain about "those damn kids and their rock and roll music." If you move in next to a large University, its disingenuous and asinine to complain about the long known and traditional activites of the students. If things are out of control, they can call the police. Everyone else in town does the same.

147 Regulation will only make things worse. Regulation is never the answer it wastes Nov 18, 2012 1:57 AM tax payer dollars to attempt to fix "over consumption" which is just a result of the youths response to more regulation. Study a history book and look over seas at other countries (with similar cultures) who don't have this problem and there you may find a solution. Unfortunately it's nothing a city can do. Adam and Eve... I rest my case...

148 Regulate hours of operation. Enforce regulations so that people who have Nov 17, 2012 7:58 PM obviously consumed to much must be cut off. Binge drinking is a huge issue in

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149 We are already overregulated in my opinion. Nov 17, 2012 6:11 PM

150 This is not a problem in bars and other locations that sell alcohol. More patrolling Nov 17, 2012 2:15 PM of private residences would solve more problems of over intoxication than Zoning regulations. Also, some individuals (a few friends of mine) are only able to drink hard alcohol because of allergies.

151 This survey is a terrible mix of suggestiveness and idiocy. Nov 17, 2012 1:01 PM

152 Do not penalize responsible business owners because a few problem Nov 17, 2012 9:37 AM businesses. There are regulations already in place to take care of the problem businesses. Again, more regulation will not keep teenagers/20 somethings from drinking.

153 Personally I would rather students out in public doing whatever they are going to Nov 17, 2012 9:28 AM do. I think they will travel father for alcohol or will consume more in private residences. Which has a whole other set of problems.

154 Leave people alone. I´ve seen the police be the problem and instigating factor Nov 17, 2012 7:14 AM more times than not.

155 The city as said before must realize this is a college town which is exactly why Nov 16, 2012 10:37 PM some of us love living here. Don't make it tough to be a college student or an older adult who drinks alcohol in the city.

156 Bars are not the problem. College kids will drink no matter what. You can't stop Nov 16, 2012 7:53 PM fun.

157 This is clearly an issue brought about by Hill Residents, who in my opinion have Nov 16, 2012 7:33 PM no grounds to alter the way business has been done in this area decades before they purcharsed property. If city leaders believe this is an issue that needs to be addressed they should reallocate existing resources to enforce existing laws

158 In my opinion, consolidating student drinking (since it is going to happen one Nov 16, 2012 6:31 PM way or another) to bars that are a) away from residential areas and b) responsible for safe serving practices - is much better than further restricting bars and driving 40,000 students back to private residences to hold large, late- night parties in spaces not designed for such events. Boulder doesn't seem equipped to handle or regulate the latter.

159 I assume your concern is with the University population. Perhaps some over Nov 16, 2012 6:26 PM consumption education.

160 The University needs enforcement in their on Campus housing. Nov 16, 2012 6:24 PM

161 Increase enforcement of the laws that already exist, if required. They are strong Nov 16, 2012 5:49 PM and well-conceived. Don't go the Atomic Bomb approach. Instead, enforce current regulations which were created to minimize alcohol-related challenges surrounding The Hill.

162 I think the City is already doing a very good job of enforcing building codes and Nov 16, 2012 5:22 PM alcohol regulations, establishing a strong police presence at Hill private parties,

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and encouraging diverse development in the commercial portion of the hill and downtown. There is no need for change. Restricting business will only harm business and push the Hill in a negative direction as was experienced in the 1990s.

163 The system of drinking will never be perfect, but driving people out of bars and Nov 16, 2012 5:18 PM into unsupervised house parties where more minors will drink and people are less likely to alert authorities in case of emergency is counter productive to people's safety.

164 I'm guessing the push here is with regards to University Hill. If you want to get Nov 16, 2012 3:46 PM things back under control a bit, put a few more beat cops up there on the weekend evenings to simply let the kids know being over-the-top is not acceptable... off to the . It's college & young folks are gonna have fun. I'm just happy to live somewhere where there are SO many options for transportation where one can avoid drinking and driving. I don't really see a problem personally.

165 Why not start an ad campaign speaking out about some of the dangers of Nov 16, 2012 3:43 PM drinking. Use specific Boulder related stories. I think thats way more powerful than more police.

166 It's a cultural problem like Prescription drugs.I don't know how more the Nov 16, 2012 2:17 PM government can regulate businesses anymore. how this would end the problem let the businesses be businesses let them do what they're supposed to and are.

167 Increased educational and awareness programs about potential risks of Nov 16, 2012 1:53 PM irresponsible drinking, legal protections for both of age and underage people who seek out help regarding alcohol abuse

168 Don't change a thing. Nov 16, 2012 1:32 PM

169 Enough already! These questions read as though the City has already made up Nov 16, 2012 1:29 PM its mind on this one. As a non-resident who very much enjoys visiting Boulder, it makes me want to spend my money elsewhere. You're doing just fine. Relax a little. Less is more.

170 If you regulate businesses more strictly and restrict sales of alcohol, Nov 16, 2012 12:39 PM irresponsible drinking would be much more of a problem than it is now

171 All of these ideas exist to prohibit alcohol or to punish those who drink alcohol. Nov 16, 2012 12:31 PM An important fact to remember is that alcohol consumption is an individual activity. Those individuals that over consumer alcohol do so for a variety of reasons, but those reasons are often personal. Sometimes, alcohol consumption can lead to extremely negative consequences, and the city should find ways to stop those negative consequences, but the wrong response is to overreact with a bunch of borderline authoritarian measures. This isn't the 19th Century it's the 21st.

172 Again,college populations will drink and party but the city has a responsibility to Nov 16, 2012 10:49 AM regulate the density of late nite serving bars (I am all for more restaurants which stop serving at 11 pm) which in turn, concentrate increased vandalism, violence, noise and crime on adjacent residential neighborhoods. Keep the density

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downtown where it can be policed and there is less bad affects on residential.

173 People can already call the police and have house parties broken up. I live in a Nov 16, 2012 9:21 AM high-student neighborhood (Martin Acres), and work on CU campus (though I don't drink), and there are occasional problems in the neighborhood, but I see no evidence for a need to increase enforcement, tighten zoning, etc. If you want to re-devote resources, put more into enforcing red light, stop sign and red left turn arrows, plus speeding and tailgating. Leave the Hill alone in particular - it's a college town after all!!

174 Stop serving and selling to under age drinkers Nov 15, 2012 7:21 PM

175 As someone who is educated in the issues of substance use and abuse, I don't Nov 15, 2012 5:27 PM see any of these measures being effective at treating the root cause of the over consumption issue that exists in limited areas of boulder. I think any one of these measures would be counterproductive in myriad ways, and would only serve to hurt the businesses that they affect.

176 I believe in personal choice and freedom. Nov 15, 2012 4:09 PM

177 Look, sure, K's China was a problem. Mostly because it was the go to bar for Nov 15, 2012 4:01 PM Greeks and underage girls. Hmmm, Greeks and underage drinkers.... sounds like a group of people who really tip the scales for alcohol abuse. Don't punish the town because of bad bouncers and rowdy frat brothers.

178 Prohibition, in any disguise, is not effective. I think there's an era in this nation's Nov 15, 2012 3:54 PM history, not that long ago in fact, that the council can look to for guidance.

179 We need more police on the street and we need police to enforce the law re: Nov 15, 2012 3:25 PM noise violations, drinking openly on the street, and public drunkenness and disorderly conduct, all of which are a problem in my neighborhood. Frankly, given the amount of action in residential areas of the Hill, I just don't see enough of a police presence. I rarely see a police car and I have never seen a police officer on foot. Recent crime maps clearly show that most crimes are occurring on the Hill and there seems to be a connection between drunkenness and the kinds of crimes that are occurring on the Hill. Burglary and theft can be related to drunkenness, since drunk victims are easy victims.

180 Many regulations on the books are not enforced. Limiting sales of alcohol (and Nov 15, 2012 3:21 PM restricting promoting over consumption - two-fers, ladies night....) and not emptying the drunks onto the streets at 2 am would be a start in the right direction. What is meant by business districts (retail, restaurant, industrial, restaurants)?

181 like I said previously the bars and restaurants already have regulations set in Nov 15, 2012 2:46 PM place by the government, and each and every establishment is bound to a certain set of rules. It is unfair to have establishments on the hill held to a higher standard then other places. It is simply unfair this potential amendment cannot take place.

182 Provide better coverage in public transportation, better lighting in many Nov 15, 2012 2:42 PM neighborhoods as well

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183 Only a multi-lateral approach will ultimately be effective, hence all of the above Nov 15, 2012 2:26 PM must be employed. Zoning is the city's only real tool to effectively deal with the alcohol culture problem of University Hill. (see Thunderbird decision) Once establishment allowed to be open late, can't restrict alcohol serving hours-- according to Colorado Supreme Court. Neighbors have no legitimate recourse, aside from organizing and opposing every single application that comes before Planning for use review (The recent Tavern debate as well as La'au's polarized the neighborhood--not healthy for the neighbors to have to engage in this subjective debate constantly) Must have zoning in place to prevent abuse. (500 foot rule and/or strict restaurant defs./perhaps business licenses) In addition, start reducing amount of liquor licenses by attrition and get rid of bad actors. Currently it is incredibly difficult for the PD to prove cases of over-serving and serving underage--enforcement policies must be changed. Zoning changes would prevent more late-night bars, and thus landlords would ultimately have to reduce rent and attract more good retail and restaurants. Only bars can pay top dollar for rent, as sale of alcohol is quite lucrative-esp. to college students.

184 Once again, it is typical of a college town. Those that want a quieter Nov 15, 2012 2:10 PM neighborhood, should not attempt to live in a coege town.

185 If you eliminated bar closing time there wouldn't be a rush for people to drink Nov 15, 2012 2:05 PM around 2am. Allow alcohol sales 24/7 and you will eliminate problems with over consumption.

186 The BLA was completely non-functional in dealing with the K's China issues. Nov 15, 2012 1:58 PM Effort should be placed on education of the adverse effects and potential consequences of irresponsible use of alcohol rather than tightening regulations for licensees

187 there can't be too much education in the area of the physiological effects on the Nov 15, 2012 1:54 PM developing brain

188 there can't be too much education in the area of the physiological effects on the Nov 15, 2012 1:54 PM developing brain

189 In addition restricting to beer and wine after 11 in cerain areas but not before that Nov 15, 2012 1:51 PM time.

190 Be firmer with current regulations as they apply to underage consumption and Nov 15, 2012 1:48 PM excessive consumption. Tougher laws that apply to those purchasing/providing alcohol to underage minors. Tougher laws on those that use fake id's.

191 Punish the offenders, not the rest of us or business people who are trying to Nov 15, 2012 1:41 PM make a living. Enforce existing laws and close down repeat offenders--we all know which ones they are. Make the university step up and take responsibility for the trouble makers they invite into our community by not enforcing standards of acceptable behavior. It would be interesting to discover just what percent of students have contact with law enforcement for illegal or unacceptable behavior- -I would guess it's a small percentage and they tend to be repeat offenders as long as they're on campus. The city spends entirely too much time and money on a problem that is primarily caused by the action, or rather, the inaction of the University and its Regents.

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192 The City Council in this town tends to forget that the college kids make up about Nov 15, 2012 1:28 PM 30% of the citizens here. The will of these people is important as well, and the rules that City Council tends to so easily put into use affect them the most. If you want the kids to listen to the will of the police, try having the police work WITH the citizens for a nice change. Have the police do their job, which is to serve the people instead of acting against the people and the will of the people as they currently do. Have them present to help solve problems and not be simply out there to bust people. have the police solve actual crimes instead of chasing and harassing kids. The fact that the police are running around in black cars and black uniforms tells even the casual observer that the police are simply there to bust constituents, and to collect money.

193 I live in University Hill, and believe that the majority of alcohol abuse happens at Nov 15, 2012 1:12 PM house parties. I believe that if students had more opportunities to purchase alcohol in bars in the University Hill commercial district, they would drink less because of the cost (house parties provide free alcohol). I also believe that more options for drinking in the commercial district will reduce the noise level in the family residential area of University Hill. Based on this, I am in favor of any policy changes that make it easier for business owners to open and operate bars and restaurants in the University Hill commercial district. It seems that the proposed regulations will make it more difficult for bar and restaurant owners; I am not in favor of this.

194 I think we should purse additional tools to combat the remarkable amount of Nov 15, 2012 1:07 PM douchebaggery and asshattery of the citizens who put together petitions like this one. Go play in traffic idiots. Your former 21-year-old selves would think you are all full of shit and awful people.

195 More rules, more prohibition has never worked. Why punish the people and Nov 15, 2012 1:00 PM businesses that do not cause issues in the name of going after the relative handful of violators and trouble makers. Enforce the rules on the books already.

196 Increased police enforcement in residential districts requires that the police get Nov 15, 2012 12:47 PM out of their cruisers and patrol either on foot or on bicycle, or both. K's China is a perfect example of a problem business that should have been put out of business years ago. But state liquor law does not address the issues adequately, so more local control, through zoning and zoning enforcement, is required. Police enforcement in business districts should include officers posted within problem businesses, highly visible, checking IDs and otherwise preventing problem behaviors. Businesses would pay a fee to the city for the additional police coverage. Restricting the sale to beer and wine will do little or nothing, since alcohol is so widely available throughout the City of Boulder.

197 increase education and partnership with CU; increase training and resources for Nov 15, 2012 12:43 PM enforcement and licensing; directly police/address problem establishments; create other methods of enforcement that do not require/rely on neighbors and citizens to lodge complaints to see action

198 Just tell the University Hill Neighborhood Association to shut up, they're a bunch Nov 15, 2012 12:40 PM of overpaid idiots who are in denial about the large university they chose to live next door to. I know exactly what goes on in the hill neighborhood because I went to a major university and they're all the same. If someone is dumb enough to pay that kind of money to live in a college neighborhood then they should get

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what they deserve and shouldn't have their asses wiped by an overbearing city council. I chose to live outside of boulder so I could raise my family far far away from these underprivileged morons and their spoiled children.

199 Make alcohol 18+ Additional restrictions on bars will not stop the wild house Nov 15, 2012 12:34 PM parties. Additional police will just drive the house parties further "underground". Expanding the party registration program would be good, along with more of an attitude that safe drinking is OK as long as problem behaviors like littering, vandalism, and fights don't happen.

200 If these underage drinkers were arrested and fined and possibly kicked out of Nov 15, 2012 12:22 PM CU, it might send a message. But right now, it's a joke.

201 Get the government out of our lives. What aspect of our lives is left to free will Nov 15, 2012 12:01 PM and the consequences of liberty? Far too few understand what over-regulation causes.

202 To restrict the sale of hard alcohol is punishing EVERYONE. There are Nov 15, 2012 11:38 AM individuals that know how to drink responsibly and to restrict the sale of hard alcohol to everyone is ridiculous and seems like a lazy solution to a problem caused mostly by underage individuals.

203 Increasing police enforcement does not solve the problem Nov 15, 2012 11:11 AM

204 Curtailing underage drinking should be the main focus Nov 15, 2012 10:52 AM

205 use your laws to deal with the bad busineses and don't hurt the good ones Nov 15, 2012 10:50 AM

206 put the resources into education. people choose to drink. Nov 15, 2012 10:44 AM

207 If you believe there is a problem, increase more police. That will solve it. Nov 15, 2012 10:11 AM Increase in the demand of Police will decrease the supply of drunk kids

208 Your issues have to do with College students. Start cracking down. Nov 15, 2012 9:54 AM

209 Why not ask the community for additional GOOD suggestions. Like: subsidize a Nov 15, 2012 9:50 AM ski bus for students, get them OUT doing stuff instead of staying at home. Create a drinking endorsed license that allows younger students into specific places like an adult so they can have broader entertainment choices (getting this license could include going through a drinking training/educational program). I also think its quite clear which venues are the problem ones. City Council members need only take a week or two and go out on the town after 11pm to witness which spots are creating problems. In a home basement or back room you'd never be invited so you'll never know.

210 Change the legal drinking age to 19 Nov 15, 2012 9:49 AM

211 Education about the dangers of alcohol will help if there is any problem. Nov 15, 2012 9:35 AM Education should be the first thing we turn to, not more regulations

212 The rules in place can address problem businesses. Not all problems are related Nov 15, 2012 9:34 AM to bars, either.

213 Over consumption of alcohol isn't just a problem in Boulder, it's a problem at Nov 15, 2012 9:16 AM

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every college campus in this day in age. But it's only considered a problem because all of the folks who consider it a problem aren't used to today's modern college culture.

214 Increase enforcement of existing laws, penalize (and offer treatment to) those Nov 15, 2012 7:25 AM who break the law as a result of their own over consumption of alcohol. Do NOT penalize businesses.

215 The laws are already in place to deal with the problem. BLA is not doing its job! Nov 15, 2012 6:40 AM

216 You cannot legislate or regulate behavior. It is arrogant and egotistical to think Nov 15, 2012 6:34 AM that by changing codes, arresting more people or changing zoning will change behavior. I have lived here for 30 years and this approach has never worked so stop wasting tax dollars and time with this approach. Create a community engagement process that talks about the impacts of behavior and the importance of taking responsibility for your own actions. The drinking that happens in Boulder happens in people homes and I hope you don’t try to regulate behavior in people’s homes next. Find something more meaningful to spend your time on as city leaders.

217 My god, Boulder is already a police state. bring back 3.2 and half of your Nov 15, 2012 1:39 AM problems would go away! If you live in a neighborhood next to a bar, guess what.....there will be noise!

218 Boulder is a town filled with many young residents, most in attendance of the Nov 14, 2012 11:52 PM University of Colorado. These young residents are newly in college and are going to drink, no matter if you spend the money to better police the area or put the money into other areas of enforcement. The university benefits the city in many more aspects than harms. Yes college kids drink alcohol, no surprise there, and they will continue to drink no matter the regulations. The best way to help over consumption is to EDUCATE kids about alcohol, the effects on the body, when to call an ambulance and what to do in a dire situation. Education on alcohol is the best tool for prevention.

219 Seriously, if someone so much as steps the wrong way after consuming alcohol Nov 14, 2012 10:55 PM they are arrested. Boulder has no idea was over-consumption is.

220 I don't think it is the responsibility of Boulder to micromanage the alcohol Nov 14, 2012 10:41 PM consumption of its residents to this degree. Rather than enacting draconian provisions, I think a more worthwhile approach would be to recognize the importance of a vibrant nightlife for attracting young entrepreneurs and enacting strategies to lessen the side effects as such. Furthermore, people who complain about purchasing property in a noisy neighborhood should have done their homework prior to closing rather than seeking a cheap deal.

221 There are many establishments that are not the problem that would be affected Nov 14, 2012 9:20 PM by many of the propose restrictions. Problem businesses should be addressed on a case by case basis.

222 This city makes a lot of money from tourism through athletics. Most people I talk Nov 14, 2012 9:07 PM to chose to come to Boulder despite our lack of talent, but instead because Boulder is a beautiful, fun place to visit. It would be a shame for a few irresponsible establishments/ people/ angry, over-reacting homeowners to ruin

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the character of a town that has always been loved by those who called it home for a few days, a few years, or even more!

223 No more money for police. Nov 14, 2012 8:59 PM

224 Do not punish the majority of businesses and consumers due to the problem Nov 14, 2012 8:49 PM created by a few. And especially do not consider restricting the sales of certain alcohol in certain areas. That is ineffective, inconvenient, and will cause more occasions of driving under the influence.

225 We need to educate and maintain when it comes to unsupervised drinking. Nov 14, 2012 8:46 PM

226 None of the above, without proper data concluding that any of the above work is Nov 14, 2012 8:46 PM speculation.

227 New laws aren't always necessary. Enforcement of existing laws would work if Nov 14, 2012 8:37 PM there was follow through.

228 Alcohol consumption will change when societal norms change. Nov 14, 2012 8:10 PM

229 Blaming businesses for the actions of drunk students is ridiculous. Restricting Nov 14, 2012 8:04 PM hard liquor... Ever heard of pre-gaming? There are police everywhere, but girls get raped all the time, people get in fights all the time, that kid got shot in the hill. Maybe they should get out of their cars... redirect speed trap cops to night duty. Also, people/students kind of hate the cops, so good luck... The more you push drinking behind close doors, the more overdosed college kids you will find. Wake up and quit killing business while accomplishing nothing in terms of curbing youth drinking.

230 I believe the best strategy to effectively reduce the problem of over-consumption Nov 14, 2012 8:01 PM is to do a better job teaching kids HOW to drink, offer classes in bars that teach kids about liquor (like the classes they make bartenders and servers take, which offers information concerning BAC in relation to body size, what alcohols are safe to mix, and what to do if a friend gets too drunk).

231 None of the bars abuse their customers by drowning them with alcohol. They all Nov 14, 2012 7:46 PM seem like honest businesses that do their very best to comply with the current regulations

232 Read that question to yourself 10 times... Nov 14, 2012 7:29 PM

233 Zoning controls the wrong party: commercial establishments with managed Nov 14, 2012 7:09 PM behavior. Overly anxious old people (some of them are middle ages acting old) demand city action and have the political/financial weight to spur action. The city has a hammer with zoning and therefore thinks the problem is to use it on a nail. The nail is holding together a viable commercial/social enterprise. The city should, instead, use modern information systems (cell phone app for citizens to quickly generate data and photo into automated police data) to processes detection of disruptive behavior in real time and respond with appropriate social control agents: non-police university staff, police, homeless support staff, ambulance.

234 Enforce the drinking laws that already exist. If you find someone who has over Nov 14, 2012 7:08 PM

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consumed, arrest them for public intoxication. Enacting restrictions on businesses is only going to move the problem, not fix it.

235 This is a ridiculously leading and biased survey. I can't even give feedback on Nov 14, 2012 7:06 PM some of these questions given their leading nature. Bottom line: over consumption is an issue everywhere, not just on the hill or on Pearl Street or in a ghetto somewhere. Attempting to create laws that target a specific area is biased and unwarranted.

236 I do not believe that more regulation by the city of Boulder is likely to reduce the Nov 14, 2012 7:00 PM over-consumption of alcohol.

237 PROMOTE marijuana use. Here's why: CU-Denver study finds states with Nov 14, 2012 6:53 PM medical marijuana have 5% less suicides: http://www.americanindependent.com/212738/study-suicide-rates-fall-when- states-legalize-medical-marijuana States with medical marijuana have 9% less traffic fatalities: http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-11- 30/strategy/30457944_1_medical-marijuana-laws-traffic-fatalities-gateway-drug These are 2 of the 3 biggest killers of young men. The 3rd is homicide, which decreased for 11 years in a row when alcohol prohibition was repealed. http://www.cato.org/publications/policy-analysis/thinking-about-drug-legalization If you get these dramatic improvements just from MEDICAL marijuana ,imagine what full legalization would do! Most people wise up about really bad habits like alcohol abuse when they get some insight into themselves, which pot use eventually leads to, usually.

238 Just continue to use the powerful tools you already have. We don't need any Nov 14, 2012 6:27 PM more conditions or regulations, rather we need to support and nurture the many small businesses in the restaurant/bar industry; they give many residents and students jobs which are important to them and the local economy.

239 Please see above about addressing the actual problem Nov 14, 2012 6:25 PM

240 Please educate people to understand drinking and to take responsibilities. They Nov 14, 2012 6:11 PM would receive huge punishment if they were against the laws. If we set the new rule of no sell alcohol or operate after 11 pm and it does not work, then we have to upgrade the rules to shutdown the establishments around 9 pm or 7 pm or 5 pm??? It will be a chaos. The current zoning regulations are healthy and why we want to break it and fix it later. This is NOT making any scene to us. Again, education and punishment are the right tools. Do you really think that minors don't consume alcohol after we raised the allowable age from 18 to 21? They want more simply because it is banned....

241 Obviously if they are selling to minors shut them down. If your 21 legaly you can Nov 14, 2012 5:53 PM drink till you die as long as you dont drive. Are you trying to become communist?

242 Be more aggressive in identifying and targeting the individual businesses and Nov 14, 2012 5:47 PM homes where over-consumption is an on-going problem, and working to prevent further problems (as with serving under-age individuals).

243 I don't believe any of these are good options. Students and other non-student Nov 14, 2012 5:44 PM residents of the Hill already know about the proposed zoning options and are not happy about it. Having (primarily) older residents of the Hill going to their local

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government to try and, not explicitly, but implicitly move students off of the Hill by regulating where and when they can drink has not made any of my peers nor I very happy. The Hill is a wonderful community filled with students and non- students alike. Yes, alcohol abuse is a problem we face on the Hill. However, there really isn't much that we can do to fix it other than enforce the law when drunk students (actually) violate it. Taking measures such as over loading the Hill with police and issuing out MIP's to anyone who walks by or shutting down the bars and liquor stores, effectively turning the Hill into a dry-zone, will not have the effect that I'm assuming many believe will happen. Making students angry by telling them what they can and cannot do on the Hill will not cause drinking to decrease. If anything, I would expect it to increase since anger and alcohol have historically had a positive correlation. And if the Hill bars were to be shut down and all the sudden all the people who were abusing alcohol moved, what would realistically happen. Realistically, students would probably move down to Pearl St. since it is close to night life. Right a long with that would come excessive drinking and then all of a sudden the exact same problem is occurring on Pearl St. Are we really going to keep chasing students out of one residential area after another? Why not treat the students like adults, with respect and punish only the ones doing unlawful activities? That seems like a better plan to me.

244 I'm 38 years old, and a home owner with my wife in the city of Boulder (north on Nov 14, 2012 5:35 PM 13th street, Ideal Market area). We moved here about five years ago. We understood we were moving to a college town. In fact, the energy of living in a college town is what we were looking for. It's been great the way it is, ever since we moved here. Please do not change that. Please do not do anything to limit the energy and nightlife afforded by this perfect college town. Thank you.

245 All of these questions are poorly worded. Increased police enforcement, which Nov 14, 2012 5:29 PM has already happened, clearly doesn't solve the problem. You are just giving insignificant tickets and creating inefficient regulations that do not lower overconsumption whatsoever, but rather have increased the rates of consumption.

246 Another grammar error. Solid, guys. Good use on your attempt to use the Nov 14, 2012 5:14 PM subjunctive, though! I think you should spend more time educating the public on the dangers of overconsumption and put more of your efforts into helping addicts recover. You should especially help people in the homeless community instead of trying to make them disappear and pretend it's not your problem.

247 education! Nov 14, 2012 5:07 PM

248 Current restrictions are fine Nov 14, 2012 5:05 PM

249 I do believe that overconsumption is a problem, but I do not believe that the city Nov 14, 2012 5:02 PM council is going about it the right way. What needs to happen is a change in the culture in Boulder, new laws and regulations aren;t going to change anything, they will just make it more dangerous. The bars, students, residence, and city boards need to work to gether to reach their common goals, a safer, happier city

250 Restaurants and bars are certified in alcohol consumption laws as well as Nov 14, 2012 4:58 PM bartenders and servers in watching the over-serving of guests. It is not the businesses that have issues, but rather the house parties. Boulder has always

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been like this and it is part of our history as well as our revenue. To change this within business matters is ridiculous and wrong. It should be placed upon house parties where your underage drinking crowd resides anyways. In no way has this been a huge bother to the city other than older family residents getting upset about the noise and partying going on and in such case understand you are choosing to live in a college town a popular college town that allows you to have such a nice house and diverse town through the universities money. Change these things and kids will not be pleased and go to schools elsewhere...leaving boulder from its much revenue and popularity.

251 I don't believe that any of these recommended tools would be effective in Nov 14, 2012 4:53 PM reducing over consumption.

252 Just enforce existing laws and concentrate on underage drinking. Nov 14, 2012 4:46 PM

253 Require education for all new students. Zero tolerance policy for underage Nov 14, 2012 4:45 PM drinking on the part of the university (on and off campus). Extend (not decrease) operating hours for alcohol service in certain types of businesses to encourage a measured and gradual end to the evening rather than pushing everyone in to residential areas at the same time and at the height of their excitement. Set minimum price regulations for sale of liquor. For example setting a $3 minimum price for any single serving of alcohol served after a certain time. (12 oz beer, 1oz spirits, 4oz wine, etc). These would address the issues without punishing the businesses in town.

254 people always find a way to do what they want. good luck. Nov 14, 2012 4:42 PM

255 I would focus on house and frat parties, day and night, on the hill. Nov 14, 2012 4:40 PM

256 The BLA is broken! With almost 5 hours of testimony from police officers, Nov 14, 2012 4:33 PM detectives, the state licensing authority, etc. where multiple counts of serving minors, serving intoxicated persons, things being thrown off the roof at police, noise violations, and violations of the stipulations they signed to re-open; I don't understand how the BLA applied 20+ stipulations to the license (only one of which can be enforced by the police department) (and many of which were already laws) and then renew K's China's license. It doesn't matter how you zone, grant, or enforce future licenses. If you don't use the tools you already have to go after "bad actor" restaurants you will never get any better when it comes to restaurants.

257 Question: Has the sale of alcohol gone up since the original waiver in 1987? If Nov 14, 2012 4:32 PM not, why does alcohol over consumption present itself as an issue now? Regardless, how are local boulder establishments assisting or in anyway promoting alcohol consumption? -- They are not. These establishments are merely selling a product that is legal for adults over the age of 21 to consume. The choice is ours to consume alcohol. Do not take that right away from business owners. The American economy is struggling enough. Changing or even evoking the UseReview regulations put both our choice and our very own locals at risk.

258 Don't take away our rights Nov 14, 2012 4:18 PM

259 Zoning is the wrong tool; don't punish law abiding customers, businesses, and Nov 14, 2012 3:49 PM

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taxpayers. We don't make driving illegal to reduce car accidents. We don't reduce library operating hours to reduce the impacts of the homeless on library neighborhoods. Enforce the laws against drunk behavior.

260 Keep doing what you're doing. Don't get complacent. It's that simple. You push Nov 14, 2012 3:36 PM on the locals, they'll push back until it's even again. If it ain't broke don't fix it!

261 The majority of the terrible incidents, including murder, that have occurred in the Nov 14, 2012 3:34 PM past few years are a result of people that do not live in boulder and are not students. Yet, the students and establishments are the ones being blamed. I think there needs to be more focus on drunk driving, ect. and focus on those people who do not live here but cause problems.

262 If there is to be a change in Boulder, I believe that the establishments that have Nov 14, 2012 3:30 PM been "stung" or in trouble before because of an over consumption issue should be regulated more closely. Establishments and businesses that remain responsible and maintain historically responsible business practices should not be penalized for the faults and mishaps of other establishments.

263 Target underage drinking as that is where the root of the problem lies. Nov 14, 2012 3:27 PM

264 Get police to be more aware of individual needs instead of lumping everything Nov 14, 2012 2:49 PM together.

265 The problem of over consumption isn't something that can be addressed entirely Nov 14, 2012 2:40 PM by regulations and legislation. There's a culture problem country-wide about how we think about alcohol and how we act with it. People use alcohol as a social lubricant and as a coping mechanism; if they had other skills in these areas, they wouldn't feel the need to overconsume.

266 don't make more laws. we have enough Nov 14, 2012 2:39 PM

267 Alcohol education in high schools. The root of the problem is that students come Nov 14, 2012 2:38 PM to college without learning how to handle their liquor. Change the drinking age and support health ed development programs that better address alcohol abuse. Boulder businesses should not be paying for this.

268 More DUI checkpoints, please. And potentially a shuttle running from the Hill or Nov 14, 2012 2:37 PM Downtown to common residential neighborhoods

269 I would also work with the University to change the culture associated with Nov 14, 2012 2:06 PM drinking. I believe that the "drinking is just bad" mentality is ineffectual with students. Drinking is fine. Being drunk and crazy is not. The University (speaking as an employee of CU) could do much to try to change the culture of drinking and should be brought in as more of a partner.

270 Please fund stronger prevention programs on campus and within the county as a Nov 14, 2012 2:03 PM whole. Increase the presence and impact of a community coalition to address drinking and other negative behaviors among our youth. This group could ALSO address marijuana.

271 Again, I am against further regulation, much less further penalization. Nov 14, 2012 1:18 PM

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272 Current regulations should be respected by current business owners and Nov 14, 2012 1:10 PM residents. I think current regulations are enough to control alcohol consumption, so if people are not following them they should face strict penalties.

273 How about education. People don't always think of or understand the issues Nov 14, 2012 1:05 PM surrounding alcohol and the impact to the individual and those around them. I think there is an over consumption problem just about everywhere in the US and it's a social reaction.

274 Have law enforcement respond to calls. Do not patrol or look for problems. Be Nov 14, 2012 12:49 PM reactive not proactive because those people have not done anything wrong yet

275 Educated students on the effects of alcohol. Question: If I'm 21 years old and Nov 14, 2012 12:48 PM looking to get loaded, do you think I'm NOT going to get drunk because a Hill bar only serves beer or wine??? NOPE. I'll just binge drink with a handle of vodka before I even go out. << This is where your problem lies with the over consumption of alcohol in Boulder. Don't hurt honest, established business because of this.

276 Sorry our esteemed city council sees fit to try to control the behavior of everyone Nov 14, 2012 12:47 PM in a town, but that is impractical and over stepping their roles. Do something worthwhile, like clean up the bums downtown that scare away tourist income.

277 How about working with the students with programs that help educate about Nov 14, 2012 12:41 PM alcohol issues. Can't believe that's not an option.

278 Alcohol over consumption cannot be stopped by creating laws. People will find a Nov 14, 2012 12:36 PM way. If anything, when you stop serving at 11pm the drinking will move to the streets/houses where a higher concentration of people are who do not want to be around this activity.

279 Work with the university to address the students directly. In all of these Nov 14, 2012 12:16 PM questions, not one choice was related to the actual cause of over consumption: people drinking too much. The changes being considered are broad strokes which glaze over the problem. Students are going to find a way to drink. The best thing to do is try to convince them not to drink as much. Also, the fact that "other" isn't actually an option (you must select one of the options above as well) is probably going to skew your results.

280 Prohibition of any kind never works, let history be the ever present teacher. Nov 14, 2012 12:12 PM

281 No mention of education in the options above, only regulation and enforcement. Nov 14, 2012 12:07 PM Educate our young people about the dangers of binge drinking. Also, your survey has an error on this message by not accepting the survey unless I check a box in Question 10.

282 You need more police enforcement, but this doesn't mean that you need more Nov 14, 2012 12:02 PM officers writing tickets and arresting students. Officers on the hill need to understand where they are working and develop stronger tactics and skills in dispute resolution, we don't need officers who have seen to many war movies (The hill police have done a great job of working with student groups on the hill to reduce the problem, the problem lies when you get new officers into the department who are hardcore and dont truly understand there surroundings.

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283 If there are certain establishments where incidents occur more than others, do Nov 14, 2012 11:55 AM not punish the places who do comply with standards. Many door staff will not allow entrance to those who appear too intoxicated. Why should they suffer financially from the prohibition of hard liquor, if they are doing what it to takes to keep their patrons in check?

284 i dont think we need to be writing tickets for alcohol consumption but if police see Nov 14, 2012 11:50 AM people littering or otherwise causing problems as a result they should address the specific issue. Littering is a big problem on the hill.

285 Do not restrict the sale of hard alcohol. Enforce the current rules Nov 14, 2012 11:43 AM

286 I don't believe any of these options are going to address over consumption of Nov 14, 2012 11:40 AM alcohol in Boulder. People are looking for any reason to celebrate and it is easy to access alcohol, whether you're of age or underage. If additional zoning regulations are put in place or if the sale of hard alcohol is restricted, this will not change how much people drink, it will just hurt the small businesses in our community. Rather than purchasing alcohol at the bar, people will go to the liquor store before hand, drink more before they go out- knowing that the sale of alcohol is restricted, and we could potentially have a larger problem with over consumption than we had before. Not to mention how this would affect the small businesses that make most of their money between 11 pm and 2 am.

287 I don't think it's a problem relating to bars and restaurants. The main concern I Nov 14, 2012 11:38 AM have is in residential areas mainly on the hill. Over consumption is wide spread in private residences compared to bars and restaurants.

288 EDUCATE PEOPLE.... RULES AND PUNISHMENT REALLY DON'T WORK. IT Nov 14, 2012 11:34 AM OPPRESSES THE PEOPLE. ALCOHOL IS A DRINK. WE SHOULD START ARRESTING PEOPLE FOR DRINKING SODA

289 If it's a problem in Boulder, then it's a problem in the other ~2000 4 year Nov 14, 2012 11:33 AM universities in America. This is not even a debate.

290 It is not a problem in businesses. It is a problem in private residences & other Nov 14, 2012 11:31 AM areas where kids under 21 are binge drinking.

291 I do believe overconsumption of alcohol is a problem, but I don't think any of Nov 14, 2012 11:29 AM these options are the most effective. I would choose increased education about the dangers of overconsumption. Rather than focusing on restriction and punishment, I would focus on positive education that encourages people to make better choices when it comes to consuming alcohol.

292 Business sale of Alcohol is not the issue, house parties where any age can drink Nov 14, 2012 11:26 AM is the issue.

293 Stop being a nanny state. I'm ok with the separation of use reviews, because Nov 14, 2012 11:24 AM that makes sense. But everything else listed is just ridiculous and will do nothing to curb overconsumption. The worst overconsumption I've seen is at frat or house parties, not bars. I've been a college student here, I've worked with college students here and I've been a working adult here. You're trying to resolve the wrong problem with these initiatives and giving in to the whining people who moved into areas near college hangouts, knowing they were near college

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hangouts.

294 Stop the neoprohibition. Nov 14, 2012 11:23 AM

295 Change the drinking age to 18. Police do not need to waste time with kids and Nov 14, 2012 8:41 AM drinking. This is beyond stupid. Kids is Europe drink at 18 without incident. We need to grow up

296 Most of the binge drinking come from house parties, not licensed Nov 14, 2012 8:13 AM establishments.

297 Push to allow bars that only serve 3.2 beer for the 18-21 year old demographic Nov 14, 2012 7:47 AM

298 Big Brother, we have regulations in place by the State of Colorado. Nov 14, 2012 7:27 AM

299 Boulder has enough regulation on businesses. It's not a city wide boulder Nov 14, 2012 7:05 AM problem.

300 Legislation is not the answer. Nov 14, 2012 7:00 AM

301 People should be responsible for their own behavior not the bars or the city. Nov 14, 2012 12:05 AM

302 Only people that are a problem should be restricted. Most people can go out to Nov 13, 2012 10:46 PM bars at night and have a good time without causing any problems.

303 Nothing the city can do will stop students from drinking. Right now they do most Nov 13, 2012 10:45 PM of it close to home. Leave it alone.

304 This is a City of Boulder problem, not a University student problem. We live in a Nov 13, 2012 8:25 PM culture of alcohol abuse.

305 Not only increase police enforcement, but also let restaurants stay open and sell Nov 13, 2012 8:17 PM alcohol after 11 PM.

306 If you buy a house on the Hill you shouldn't be surprised that it will get noisy at Nov 13, 2012 8:07 PM times. People buying homes on the Hill and then complaining is like people buying a home next to an aiport and complaining about the noise from planes.

307 More resources for CU and BVSD to address this. Zoning and more police are Nov 13, 2012 8:05 PM useless. Kids need to be educated more comprehensively on the subject - not "Just say no" - that avoids the whole issue that young people will drink whether we want them to or not.

308 Again, prohibition doesn't work. More restriction is not the answer, promote local Nov 13, 2012 7:29 PM business by allowing there to be safe places for people to consume alcohol. Stopping service at 11pm does little to curb people's desire to drink and have a good time. Boulder's alcohol restriction approach is against the city's "free thinking" ideals and stifles potential local business investors and limits opportunities to thrive in our city.

309 I think all of those things are important but evidence shows that limiting the Nov 13, 2012 7:26 PM number of outlets will reduce consumption and therefore damage done.

310 Make it known that if you are disruptive in a residential neighborhood, you will Nov 13, 2012 7:24 PM

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face scrutiny from the police. Allow responsible people to have a drink at a business in the University Hill commercial district at 1230 PM while dealing with those who are irresponsible.

311 The codes are fine. Get some officers out there actually breaking up parties, Nov 13, 2012 7:20 PM responding to code violation calls and patrolling the Hill. It's pretty obvious which parties are loud and out of control, and should be shut down.

312 Push for return of 3.2 beer bars. These were great and 18-20 yr olds could Nov 13, 2012 7:17 PM gather pretty safely in them. (I learned to play foosball in one at age 20) Can you support our local legislators to push for this law change? Make it safe for people to drink in public. Please don't force them elsewhere to drink where it is more dangerous

313 Education of youth and college students as well as parents to the health effects Nov 13, 2012 6:28 PM of drinking too much. Increase patrols in problem areas

314 College age kids these days are more apt to take perscripiton drugs/pills and Nov 13, 2012 6:23 PM drink one or 2 drinks than consume 10 alcoholic beverages and pass out. Not the bar proprieters fault! increase pill education

315 I believe the local enforcement is already high and any more will only cause Nov 13, 2012 6:22 PM rebellion from the community

316 Students drink. Let them drink in bars where the consumption is somewhat Nov 13, 2012 6:20 PM regulated. If you limit bars on the Hill then the problem will just go underground.

317 Try enforcing drunk and disorderly. Nov 13, 2012 6:14 PM

318 Enforce existing rules against those who are endangering others as a result of Nov 13, 2012 6:09 PM their over consumption of alcohol and make sure to enforce them against all segments of the population not just students.

319 In addition, close the bars by 1 am. There is no reason for them to be open and Nov 13, 2012 6:03 PM selling alcohol past 1 am.

320 You guys don't get it. The problem is bad behavior with excess consumption. Nov 13, 2012 5:59 PM Boulder has plenty of crime that has nothing to do with alcohol. Until you address people with bad behavior, you don't address the issue. Education is about the only way to address it outside of a totalitarian state.

321 For all the effort by parking staff, code inspectors, etc, tommonitor various Nov 13, 2012 5:30 PM situations, why don't we have noise and "disturbing the peace" patrols? Why should residents get action on THIS issue (noise, disturbances) only by calling in complaints? So my answer is: regular patrols on thursday, friday and saturday nights. I am tired of getting up at 2am to deal with this sort of thing, and I shouldn't have to.

322 These are regulations that will simply take sidestepping to avoid. NONE OF Nov 13, 2012 5:15 PM THIS WILL SOLVE ANY "PROBLEMS" BUT RATHER CREATE HARDSHIPS FOR SMALL BUSINESSES. PEOPLE WILL CONTINUE TO OVERCONSUME NO MATTER WHAT REGULATIONS ARE IN PLACE.

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323 Ever get the idea that a survey has been issued to reinforce a decision that has Nov 13, 2012 5:14 PM already been made? This exercise is kind of insulting.

324 Why not first try to reasonably enforce the codes on the books before enacting Nov 13, 2012 5:13 PM idiotic rules.

325 There are far greater concerns to the community than this subject. Getting rid of Nov 13, 2012 5:10 PM criminal activity and verbal/physical harassment from the bums that call their selves homeless victims who camp out down by the creek should be a priority.

326 This entire survey is flawed because all of the questions are skewed to make Nov 13, 2012 5:04 PM people feel like there is an issue. It is just a way for the city to find a way to regulate more businesses.

327 Again I will say that a mention in a network news story, that was reaching for Nov 13, 2012 4:55 PM something to say on a slow news day, does not mean over drinking is a problem in Boulder. Please do not support any additional police or resources for this non- issue. In fact this "fact finding" is a waste of time and money, you should know better.

328 I don't think we need to throw more money at policing college students. They're Nov 13, 2012 4:39 PM going to drink whether the city uses tax dollars for more regulation or not.

329 Get the kids out of the house parties and into the licensed establishments. Hold Nov 13, 2012 4:37 PM those establishments accountable for over-serving within reason.

330 Sure, I guess less folks doing shots might be a good thing. Nov 13, 2012 3:57 PM

331 Taper down the number and type of licenses in a gradual manner. Nov 13, 2012 3:56 PM

332 It isn't so cut and dry. Prop 64 could change all of this data. Nov 13, 2012 3:44 PM

333 Education and the promotion among individuals to drink more responsibility. The Nov 13, 2012 3:43 PM real problem is not with business that sell alcohol it is with people who drink too much. Better to encourage people to make healthy choices than to try and strong arm them, restricting those who are not causing problems from doing something they enjoy and should be able to do.

334 This survey is very misleading. I do believe there is an over consumption Nov 13, 2012 3:41 PM problem in Boulder, yet you are putting words in my mouth when I check "none, but don't want the remainder of the statement. It's a college town, it's what happens in college towns period. Whether I agree with all this drinking isn't the point, it's coming down on businesses for just being a business. More policing maybe.

335 Enforcement is important but it won't shift the culture around alcohol on it's own. Nov 13, 2012 3:40 PM Restricting the sale of hard alcohol won't lessen access to alcohol since beer and wine will still be available and high risk drinking can still occur with beer and wine. The city should use the environmental tools at its disposal to make access to alcohol more challenging. While the questions in this survey skew toward the University population, the perception of alcohol use also impacts younger populations.

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336 Education or more law enforcement of public intoxication may help, but limiting Nov 13, 2012 3:40 PM alcohol alone will not stop over consumption. You could remove every bar & liquor store on the hill and students would still get alcohol and would be drunk.

337 Get CU to suspend for 1 year any student charged with a drinking/possession Nov 13, 2012 3:36 PM violation.

338 Giving out MIP tickets is a colossal waste of taxpayers $, time and accomplishes Nov 13, 2012 3:32 PM nothing. Kids go out and celebrate when they are done the useless classes

339 As mentioned, I support increased awareness efforts to make binge drinking less Nov 13, 2012 3:17 PM glamorous. As a Boulder native, I've seen regulations on just about everything and I'm beginning to think Boulder feels a bit fascist these days.

340 Alcohol over consumption is not the problem, lack of personal responsibility is Nov 13, 2012 3:15 PM the problem. You will not be able to address the real problem by trying to control the symptoms.

341 The laws say you can't over serve. If someone is overly consuming, the place Nov 13, 2012 3:10 PM that served that person should be responsible.

342 Get the court to support the City Attorney and Police, not undermine the efforts Nov 13, 2012 3:08 PM with ineffective, feel-good efforts like Restorative Justice or slaps on the wrist. Those just victimize the neighborhood and do not become learning opportunities for the offenders. I frequently hear them laughing about what a joke those measures are while out walking my dog. Also, my nieces, nephews, and children of friends who have attended CU tell me they resent the small percentage of offenders who give CU a bad name. They too wish they would be expelled from CU.

343 This wording of this question is embarrassing. Nov 13, 2012 3:07 PM

344 I think that the City of Boulder is wildly out of touch with the culture that exists Nov 13, 2012 2:58 PM around the university and it's students, who these regulations are obviously meant to target. While there is certainly a party culture here, it isn't anything out of the ordinary or any different than what is happening at public universities across the U.S. Increased police enforcement, zoning regulations, etc. are just more bureaucratic nonsense that will ultimately have no effect on this supposed problem. Students here drink and they will continue to do so. The key is to giving students who are of age a safe place to consume alcohol, like down on Pearl Street, to limit weekend night contact between those that are underage and those that are not. I am beginning to think that the council is too old for it's own good when it comes to this issue and you would be better educated if you took the time to listen to the students that you seem to think so little of, rather than complaining that once a week someone is drunkenly yelling outside your million dollar house. Boulder has become so polarized between those that "live here" and the students. We all live here and we would do better in all aspects of this relationship if the student population would stop being targeted for exploring the freedom and new experiences that college affords us.

345 Education programs. Nov 13, 2012 2:56 PM

346 I don't think banning hard alcohol will work well. People will just take more shots Nov 13, 2012 2:54 PM

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before they go out for the night. Mandating a food menu be available whenever alcohol is also being served will encourage a balance of eating while drinking. This will lead to fewer people blacking out or becoming very drunk very quickly.

347 Be careful not to encourage the CU students to drive to another venue to drink. Nov 13, 2012 2:53 PM It will be much worse. Marijuana bars. Less puking, less aggression, less injury. They can all wander home and go to sleep without overdosing. The police should persistently search homeless drunks for open containers of alcohol and DUMP them. This will help the addict alcoholics and will drive those who do not want help away from our city.

348 Let college kids be college kids. The money would probably be better spent on Nov 13, 2012 2:38 PM having better substance/alcohol abuse programs around campus and the Hill. It'd also be more effective to put more money or a similar program in place that CU has called Night Ride.

349 Though I don't like any of these options, I chose this choice as it most closely Nov 13, 2012 2:25 PM aligns with my suggestion of allowing 16+ and 18+ establishments to serve alcohol to 21+ persons.

350 I feel there should be rental oversight in my neighborhood; some of these places Nov 13, 2012 2:22 PM are shocking on the inside and the outside. Big holes in the walls, gutters falling off and rusted, small trees growing out of gutters, rotting newspapers, fences that look ready to actually fall down and crush people at any minute.

351 Primary education is the most effective way to teaching our children about the Nov 13, 2012 2:22 PM pros and cons of alcohol consumption. Reducing the drinking age to 16 or 18 would de-stigmatize alcohol for high school students, providing them with safe access to alcohol will teach them to be responsible.

352 Might want to spell-check these questions before you open for public comment! Nov 13, 2012 2:21 PM

353 Enforce underage drinking laws at parties near campus. (more visible police Nov 13, 2012 2:18 PM presence near campus..bike and foot patrols) Do not change regulations there are way too many regulations already.

354 Enforce the codes/rules that already exist fairly and evenly across the city. By Nov 13, 2012 2:15 PM making people/businesses feel like it's impossible to do the right things or make responsible choices, the usual reaction is "Why even try then?".

355 If businesses over-serve patrons who then cause disturbances, then they Nov 13, 2012 2:13 PM deserve to be sanctioned. The reality is that people drink and the primary responsibility needs to rest with the individual, not the business. Stiffer penalties for the individual will do the most to help change behavior.

356 You spelled "If" wrong. Nov 13, 2012 2:12 PM

357 if there is anything probably more attention to house parties. Nov 13, 2012 2:02 PM

358 unfortunatly its the only way to slow down these people. Nov 13, 2012 2:02 PM

359 Alcohol is legal. This isn't about alcohol, please just be honest with Boulder and Nov 13, 2012 1:59 PM tell us what it's really about.

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360 There's a typo in this question Nov 13, 2012 1:55 PM

361 Encourage people to drink in public establishments instead of forcing them to Nov 13, 2012 1:55 PM drink at house parties. People will then have to be 21 and, as I said above, there will be many people (including sober people working in the establishments) to stop serving and/or help overly drunk people.

362 When it comes down to it, it is a free country. You are the ones who decided to Nov 13, 2012 1:52 PM take residence on University Hill. You're right to silence is equal to the students' right to enjoy college and have fun. I urge to Boulder council to stop taking on these personal crusades, and start representing the citizenry of Boulder.

363 Additional restriction/enforcement is a waste of money and counter-productive Nov 13, 2012 1:49 PM

364 None of the options listed will work, in my opinion. Education and safe Nov 13, 2012 1:37 PM alternatives are the answers. If the city were interested in learning how to curb over consumption they should talk to student groups, go to bars and ask the patrons what viable alternatives would keep them from over-indulging. My guess would be a cannabis cafe on the hill and one downtown would be very popular, and reduce over consumption of alcohol. Instead of "zoning away" alcohol, maybe the city should look at encouraging alternative activities and focus on education efforts.

365 What are we reverting to the prohibition days. If you want to solve the drinking Nov 13, 2012 1:34 PM problem, why dont you look into reasons people decide to drink alcohol.

366 It has to be a comprehensive solution not just any one of these methods. Nov 13, 2012 1:24 PM

367 I am all for enforcement of the laws, not wasting more tax dollars at regulating so Nov 13, 2012 1:23 PM much. Also, restricting the sale of hard alcohol will only cause the students to drink more at home or to drive to those locations, starting another problem.

368 This question is badly worded and the possible options should provide at the Nov 13, 2012 1:22 PM minimum an 'other' option as this is not a black and white issue. In answer to this question: The best method is always through education and community service.

369 I really disagree with only allowing beer and wine liquor licenses. People should Nov 13, 2012 1:14 PM have a right to drink what they want. It is not terribly difficult to overconsume beer or wine anyway. Regardless, I generally do not think this is the problem people make it out to be. Drunk idiots are a problem, as they can cause property damage, etc., but that is a police issue. It is not a land use issue.

370 Boulder is a college town. College kids drink and make noise. That's all part of Nov 13, 2012 1:13 PM the "Boulder Experience". Don't let a bunch of whiny rich people on The Hill complaining about noise after 11pm change that. If they want a quiet secluded neighborhood, that's what Louisville is for.

371 I would only penalized the most egregious of business offenders. I would Nov 13, 2012 1:11 PM essentially make harmless drunkenesss ignored and crack down very hard on violence, drunk driving, alcohol poisoning, etc. I would also work to implement social engineering and behavior change - essentially make drunkenness outside narrow situations and locations socially, financially, and legally penalizing.

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372 Please don't inhibit the freedom of the masses to address the problems of the Nov 13, 2012 1:05 PM few.

373 Really I think the abuse is not in business or in homes outside of student rentals. Nov 13, 2012 1:01 PM The biggest place it is affecting the city is in the public areas. More importantly this will become a bigger issue with am 64 passing. No body wants to walk by a park and see drunk and high homeless people laying around, which is becoming more prominent.

374 Harsher consequences to those who get into trouble because of alcohol Nov 13, 2012 12:57 PM consumption, from both CU for CU students and the courts who deal with intoxicated individuals who commit crimes.

375 Try harder to protect youth/limit consumption at house parties, fraternities. Nov 13, 2012 12:48 PM

376 The big problem not mentioned involves legal-aged individuals purchasing for Nov 13, 2012 12:47 PM minors. I see it all the time at Liquor Mart. A car full of obviously underage kids, waiting, while their legal friend goes in and makes the purchase. More enforcement in this area, along with stiffer no-tolerance criminal penalties, would do much, I think, to allay the problem. By the way, this approach will also help with mmj use by minors (ie, draconian penalties for adults who sell to minors)

377 Of course it is a problem, but it is a cultural problem and not something a city can Nov 13, 2012 12:36 PM impose laws on to fix. College students are going to drink to excess no matter what - the most any governing body can do is provide education and good medical facilities. You should have an option for "None of the above; I believe that alcohol is a problem but I do not believe that the city should or can fix it"

378 Increase enforcement in public areas such as parks and bike paths. Somehow Nov 13, 2012 12:31 PM make it illegal for certain chronic abusers illegal to purchase or consume in the city of Boulder. Access to the purchase of alcohol should be 21 and over (i.e. people being carded upon entry in to liquor stores and grocery alcohol in restricted access areas only).

379 It is not the governments job to interfere with personal consumption. And doing Nov 13, 2012 12:31 PM so creates negative external problems which may not be foreseen. I do not believe in paying to be policed for an act that doesn't directly impact another individual.

380 please do not drive more partying to the neighborhoods. Nov 13, 2012 12:31 PM

381 I see the failure of Boulder police to enforce loitering and panhandling laws as a Nov 13, 2012 12:02 PM much bigger issue on the quality of life in Boulder than a few loud drunks. Start by dealing with the bums first, before worrying about this non-issue if you really want to clean up the streets.

382 none, but not because over consumption is not a problem Nov 13, 2012 11:58 AM

383 If the main complaint is noise in residential areas, increase police enforcement in Nov 13, 2012 11:54 AM those areas. Otherwise, I think it is important that there are public areas where students and residents can go out at night, drink socially and not have to worry about noise levels.

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384 Increased education for incoming students. Consequences for violations, both Nov 13, 2012 11:53 AM consumer and vendor.

385 Work with education and more periodic inspection of bars in problem areas, Nov 13, 2012 11:51 AM "police" these areas!

386 *If Nov 13, 2012 11:45 AM

387 If businesses play by the rules, the populus will be provided the addiction it Nov 13, 2012 11:28 AM wants in a safer (controlled) environment.

388 Also - review and correct the RULE: Alcohol consumption in parks 5-7-5.A 1989 Nov 13, 2012 11:17 AM rules - this thing is so out of date IT IS an EMBARRASSMENT TO THE CITY GOVERNMENT

389 There are several grammar mistakes in this survey that should be fixed ASAP. Nov 13, 2012 11:09 AM Also, number eight is limited to one choice though the question says to choose all that apply.

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