ANATOMY of the SECOND FLOOR LUNCH ROOM ENCOUNTER. By: Bart Kamp
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ANATOMY OF THE SECOND FLOOR LUNCH ROOM ENCOUNTER. By: Bart Kamp. Since its initial release in August 2016 this paper has doubled in size. V.1 August 1st 2016. V.2 April 14th 2017. V.3 August 30th 2017. V.4 March 2nd 2018. V.5 March 23rd 2019. In Sept. 2016 I spoke with Rob Clark of The Lone Gunman Podcast: “Debunking The Second Floor Lunch Room Encounter.” Having had more than 5,200 downloads/listens! Thank you all! I also have been featured on BlackOpRadio (show #831) in April 2017. This was after a lengthy review at Jim DiEugenio’s Kennedys and King website. From which I quote “This is the kind of work, daring and original, questioning accepted paradigms with new and provocative evidence that KennedysandKing.com stands for.” Since writing this paper and releasing the first draft on Aug. 1st 2016 I have been awarded the Mary Ferrell JFK Lancer New Frontier Award in Nov. 2016. In April 2017 Dealey Plaza U.K. awarded me for this paper as well. A great honour to be recognised by my fellow U.K. compatriots. 1 ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS, UPDATES AND RESOURCES. Before I kick off, I would like to thank Greg Parker, Gokay Hasan Yusuf and Ed Ledoux for their generosity for taking the time to proofread the first version of this paper. I thank Stan Dane, Terry Martin and Ed Ledoux for some of the text and new scans. I managed to grab a few PDFs myself from Newspaper Archives. The rest of the ROKC crew: Lee Farley (for some beautiful insights), Jake Sykes, Vinny, Vanessa Loney, Mick Purdy, Paul Francisco Paso and Alan Dixon for their input at the forum. Forum members: Faroe Islander, Redfern and Richard Hocking. Richard Gilbride for pointing out three mistakes which have been amended since. Thanks also to Colin Crow, Steve Roe and Denis Morissette for the leads to some of the photos, video clips and articles. Chris Davidson, Robin Unger and Gerda Dunckel for their GIFs. Also many thanks to Gary Murr for the F.B.I. drawings of the T.S.B.D. which he obtained from the National Archives. Special thanks to Malcolm Blunt for some of the documentation which was not available online. And my mentor Harry van der Brugghen who taught me how to become a better photographer and also handed me the font (Antique Olive Roman) being used for this piece. Harry passed away on Aug. 1st 2016 the day I released V.1, so that is why I am using this font. And last, and most certainly not the least: thank you all for taking the time and effort for reading this as well. ***** In April 2016 I gave a two hour presentation at the yearly Dealey Plaza UK seminar in Canterbury. Talking to fellow member Barry Keane just after, I told him I was not happy as I ran out of time and had to cut down on content, especially on the 2nd floor encounter. He said “write it down”. This I did…….. The main reason I originally put this piece together, was for it to act as a script for Part 1 of the next batch of Prayer Man movies, which still haven’t materialised. Not until early 2019 any way. The research into this segment of the assassination got bigger and bigger, which has proven to be quite a puzzle and taken a lot longer than anticipated. Some of the info comes from forums research with the majority of it discussed at ROKC and The Education Forum. A few books, which I will address further down the line and the documentation and other media available through Mary Ferrell, John F. Kennedy/Dallas Police Department Collection, National Archives in Washington, John Armstrong’s Archive At Baylor University, Harold Weisberg’s archive at Hood College and the University of North Texas. A valuable piece of info is the page regarding the lunchroom encounter at the Mary Ferrell Chronologies, it is an excellent starting point. 2 Updated content V.2. April 2017. New chapter on Baker’s actions before he made his dash towards the front steps. Bill Shelley and Billy Lovelady’s testimonies with regards their observations of Baker running into the TSBD. I decided to add all the original newspaper articles about Oswald’s whereabouts from Nov. 22nd-26th. Carolyn Arnold makes an entry as well. I thought her initial FBI statement and all the theatrics following deserve a mention. Harold Norman’s statement for the HSCA proved to be a very valuable add-on as well. Barry Ernest’s work in The Girl On The Stairs has been added over several chapters, he interviewed Roy Truly, Victoria Adams, Sandra Styles and Dorothy Garner after the assassination and some of their statements are of such value that they had to be added as well. Additionally some of Sean Murphy’s findings regarding Sandra Styles have been added. ***** Updated content V.3. September 2017. St. Louis Post Dispatch article from Nov.26 1963. Medicine Hat News newspaper article added to “Research history….” Link to newspaper article from The Houston Post (Nov. 23rd) with Billy Lovelady’s remarks added. Norman Redlich memo (3 pages) discussing the elevators added to “The Stairs and The Elevators” chapter. Text added in the chapter “Did Truly Walk Ahead Of Baker”, with regards to the Secret Service agents taking statements of the TSBD employees in early Dec. 1963. Also added in the re-enactment chapter I added an article by the Dallas Morning News. FBI re-enactment photo added. Document of Thomas J. Kelley added with regards to the Secret Service re-enactment. Set of FBI re-enactment photos added, which I managed to score at the Holland McCoombs collection. Added these, as they are rare and have not been seen before by many. Photo added of Marrion Baker alongside with fellow DPD officers and John Sherman Cooper in Wa. ***** Updated content V.4, March 2018. More info and a link to Roy Truly’s ‘deleted’ testimony video. Video link and transcript of an interview with Sylvia Meagher in which she discusses the 2nd floor lunch room encounter in depth. Malcolm Couch still added showing Baker’s bike parked on Elm St. Detailed drawings of the TSBD front entrance. These were made by the FBI in early Dec. 1963. Pages 30 & 31. More testimony and a line of text of Joe Molina added to “Who saw Baker going up the stairs” chapter. Detailed drawings from the FBI on the 2nd floor of the TSBD, pages 63-64. Press and Sun-Bulletin Binghamton, New York · Sun, Dec 8, 1963 article added. Added Martha Reed’s affidavit in the chapter Oswald’s location during the so called 2nd floor encounter and just after. 3 Added two documents from Arch Kimbraugh’s collection with statements made by Roy Truly on the day he left for his W.C. testimony. Thanks to Malcolm Blunt. Report by Charles Batchelor in the Where did Baker and Truly go after the encounter. Chapter. Jack Revill’s list of all persons’ details taken upon leaving the T.S.B.D. The Carolyn Arnold chapter has been re-written in part and has a few more photos/graphics/statements/book excerpts added. FBI report with the timings of the re-enactment. ***** Updated content V.5. March. 2019. Acknowledgements text updated. Overall in this paper text has been added, deleted or amended. Links added to Sean Murphy’s posts at the Lancer forum on page 14. Roy Edward Lewis quote added from Aug 2018. On page 41. Mrs R. Reid W.C. testimony snippet added to page 133. More text added to the Carolyn Arnold sub chapter, page 135. Documents and text added to the James Hosty sub chapter on pages 142-144. Link added to Secret Service re-enactment photos, page 150. Text added to the Re-enactment chapter Pages 151 and 152. Video of Marrion Baker encountering Lee Oswald late on Nov. 23rd. Page 162. 4 Table of Contents DID OSWALD DESCEND FROM THE 6TH FLOOR AFTER KILLING JFK? ............................................................ 6 RESEARCH HISTORY OF THE SECOND FLOOR ENCOUNTER…………………………………………………….10 BAKER’S ACTIONS BEFORE HE GOT OFF HIS BIKE………………………………………………………………..16 BAKER’S DASH ON CAMERA……………………………………………………………………………………….…26 BAKERS’ RUN TOWARDS THE TSBD ENTRANCE. .......................................................................................... 27 WHO SAW BAKER ACTUALLY GOING UP THE STAIRS OF THE TSBD? ......................................................... 41 TRULY, BAKER AND THE VESTIBULE. ............................................................................................................. 45 THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE WAREHOUSE LEADING TO THE BACK STAIRS. ................................................. 49 THE STAIRS AND THE ELEVATORS. ................................................................................................................ 52 DID TRULY RUN AHEAD OF BAKER UP THE STAIRS? ................................................................................... 61 THE SECOND FLOOR LUNCH ROOM ENCOUNTER. ...................................................................................... 65 OSWALD’S LOCATION DURING THE SO CALLED 2ND FLOOR LUNCH ROOM ENCOUNTER AND JUST AFTER. ............................................................................................................................................................... 85 DID LEE OSWALD HAVE A COKE DURING THE ENCOUNTER? ..................................................................... 92 WHAT WAS OSWALD WEARING? .................................................................................................................. 101 WHERE DID TRULY AND BAKER GO AFTER THE SO CALLED ENCOUNTER. ............................................. 104 IF THE 2ND FLOOR LUNCH ROOM ENCOUNTER DID NOT HAPPEN, THEN WAS OSWALD ENCOUNTERED SOMEWHERE ELSE? ......................................................................................................................................