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WBTF00307.Pdf (2.626Mb) THE LIBRARY THE STATE HISTORICAL SOCIETY OF COLORADO 200 Fourteenth Avenue, Denver 80203 Na:me of donor: e~/~ ~?~ Date /'- ./f //'_;;;% / _ /;7 £!~(/ Address: fZ_u:e-fe1 7 e--~-L / ~/~ Description of gift: ~~~~~ ~y -. ; £,...-\._ '--c ·---- ) &:;; VV!foLA-~ Cj, ,L -(:L / t / Restriction (time or use): DEED OF GIFT I hereby give to the State Historical Society of Colorado, for its 11se and , bene~it, w~thout re~trictions as to use o: dispostion (except as noted above), ( and 1.nclud1.ng all l1. terary and property r1.ghts, the prop I ty() d\,esc / _;ribl!,'/ abov:(,. 't(O/ Date Signature · f~ (_:.,{/1/ _ #:::J Estimated Value J-- r -- ------------~-------- RECEIPT Accepted for the Society by: Date ------------------------------- Signature----------- Restrictions noted ----------- Title ------------------------ 1 M: This is an interview with Mr. Corky Rogers, I'm at his office at the Chamber of Commerce Building in Estes Park, the date is September 8, 1976, and my name is David McComb. Well, let's kind of start back at the beginning, on August 31, and the flood in the Big Thompson. ·When did you first hear about this? R: ~Jell, my wife and I were caught in the flood. ~Je were returning from Boulder on Highway 36, and as we passed the Ponderosa Campground approximately four miles from Estes Park, a mudslide came across the road and hit the car in front of us. Trees and mud had knocked their car, and we jumped out of the car and were able to get the people out of the car immediately, and naturally well, I got back in the car, and I figured that there were high rains because you could see the black clouds coming to Estes Park, and we turned the car around and raced back down because I figured, there was going to be a wall of water and by the time, of within ten minutes, the road had washed out six miles from there. And we were trapped in between there. M: What made you figure that there might be more water coming down? Was it that bad already? R: Yes, there was no rain at all, but all of a sudden this wall of water and trees and brush came across the highway. M: So you figured you'd better leave. R: Yes, we had better get out of the area, not knowing, you know, what else ... and I suppose that's what happened in the other areas, only of course Highway 36, the water was able to spread out. I myself, out of sheer stupidity, like most of the people that were killed in the flood, it was stupidity, paid more attention to the danger that possibly could have been there and as a matter of fact almost drove off into that washout on Highway 36. Fortu- 2 nate ly, there was a car ahead of us, one car had already_ gone down in there . .,-, And there was one car just stopped·~-- and we pulled behind them. But none of us realized the impact then, because I backed my car around, and the water was right up next to the road and I looked down, and it had to about 35,40 feet deep. M: That washout, they're still working on it, too, aren't they? R: Yes. M: Okay, so where did you go then? R: We went back and then I began realizing, of course, I never thought about 34, but I knew that a lot of people were stranded on 36. So there was a police car there, and we told him about the washout, and then we radioed ahead and they gave my name, but I told them I was.director of the Chamber~ and the police asked if I could possibly get back over here to open the Center to help distribute people because they said Highway 34 was being hit a lot harder then 36. So they carried my wife and I ll;i~ across the water and the mud and so on up there. We left our car, and then, we were driven down in the police vehicle to open this building. M: So the police got you through? R: Yes. We began coordinating that night, housing, to place people. M. Out of this building? R: Yes, out of this building, because then we had no outside telephone comnuni­ cation, so we called in our staff until three or four in the morning, and we were driving around, but there were no rooms in town that night. The motels were all full. M: So what did you do? R: We let people stay here, sleep here .. , . ( M: In this building? 3 R: Yes, I had people at the ... , course they opened the, the Town of Estes Park opened the Municipal Building,-and there were people asleep throughout that building, we were able to find about 65 rooms. M: In motels, hotels? R: Right. We placed a lot of people in those rooms and right away the business people ... they were, all of them, were free, qratis, but no one had any idea until the next morning, what had happened. And this, there's two points to it, first of all, I could very well have been killed myself, and then I left my wife sitting in the car alone up at the top to pull the people out of the car, and there were several instances where people on 34 did the same thing. They turned around, and their car was gone with their wife and family in it, and, I'm thankful to be alive today, and so that's how I was introduced to the disaster. M: Did you work what, through part of the night at least? R: 'Till about four o'clock in the morning. And by then I had begun to get reports from the police station as to the terror and the tragedy down High­ way 34. So I got up the next morning, I went home and slept for a few hours, and my wife's going to have a baby so she went home right away. Got up the next morning, and I made an evaluation in my own mind as what does the Chamber of Commerce do. When the Red Cross has already moved in, the Salvation Army people are here, they were already beginning to set up a disaster center over at the high school, and the American Legion was handling it, and I went to the Mayor, [8_arry Tregen!] and he said, "\~ell, we're going to do everything we can to take care of the people,'' and he said, "But, you know, if you could help us with the housing," so I had a full-time staff of nine people in, so I put them to work on establishment of housing. This was a coordination center, with the City Hall and the Amer- 4 ican Legion, there were three of us that worked, And I thought to myself, "There's no communications here. t had better get in my car and get an eval­ uation of the situation up here. Go down to Boulder and begin following the news media to get some word out of here. "Cause I knew right away what would happen when a 11 the communication was cut off. So we began. M: Wait a minute. What do you mean you knew right away what would happen? What would happen? R: I knew that there would be a lot of misconceptions about the condition of Estes Park, just by, this is my eighth year in this field, and I also know that at this point in time, after being in Estes Park for two years, that the tourist industry in vulnerability is running second to farming. Any little thing, a gas shortage or, a threat of, or election year, a bubonic plague this year, garbage, we had an article on garbage in national parks put out in Newsweek, the Bicentennial, everything affects tourism. M: It's a very sensitive ... ? R: Very vulnerable, sensitive industry. And when you're talking about the month of August in Estes Park, you're talking about 40 percent or more that we know, a minimum of 40 percent, of the entire multibillion dollar economy of this area -- in that month. And we had just peaked, we had hit the peak around July 30 of all the motel rooms being full, the campgrounds being full, the parking lots being full, from that time to about August 20 was every day the businesses would do in one day what they do in one month any other time of the year. M: Is it true that the month of August is where most of these people in this area really make it? That's where they get their bills paid, that's where they get ahead, that's where they make their profit. R: That's where it's all happening. That's where the profitability is made. 5 You can stay open all year and in other months make your electricity and pay your help. M: So when that that flood hits July 31, then, all the month of August is threatened. R: Oh·, yes. M: What are you going to make? R: Oh. yes. The day after the flood it was still real busy while people were qettinq out of town as fast as thev could. But if you can picture over 5,000 rooms in the area emptying in one night, the next day the town was a ghost town.
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