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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) Tuesday 8 June 2021 Session 6 © Parliamentary copyright. Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body Information on the Scottish Parliament’s copyright policy can be found on the website - www.parliament.scot or by contacting Public Information on 0131 348 5000 Tuesday 8 June 2021 CONTENTS Col. TIME FOR REFLECTION ....................................................................................................................................... 1 POINT OF ORDER ............................................................................................................................................... 3 TOPICAL QUESTION TIME ................................................................................................................................... 5 Secure Accommodation (Unlawful Detention of At-risk Children) ................................................................ 5 Euro 2020 (Preparations and Fan Zone) ...................................................................................................... 7 Online Child Sex Abuse ................................................................................................................................ 9 COVID-19 ........................................................................................................................................................ 12 Statement—[First Minister]. The First Minister (Nicola Sturgeon) ........................................................................................................... 12 TACKLING POVERTY AND BUILDING A FAIRER SCOTLAND .................................................................................. 34 Motion moved—[Shona Robison]. Amendment moved—[Miles Briggs]. Amendment moved—[Pam Duncan—Glancy]. Amendment moved—[Maggie Chapman]. Amendment moved—[Alex Cole—Hamilton]. The Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice, Housing and Local Government (Shona Robison) .................. 34 Miles Briggs (Lothian) (Con) ....................................................................................................................... 39 Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab)........................................................................................................ 42 Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) ...................................................................................... 45 Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) .......................................................................................... 46 Natalie Don (Renfrewshire North and West) (SNP) ................................................................................... 48 Jeremy Balfour (Lothian) (Con) .................................................................................................................. 50 Richard Leonard (Central Scotland) (Lab) ................................................................................................. 52 Bill Kidd (Glasgow Anniesland) (SNP)........................................................................................................ 53 Sue Webber (Lothian) (Con) ...................................................................................................................... 55 Marie McNair (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP) ........................................................................................ 57 Pauline McNeill (Glasgow) (Lab) ................................................................................................................ 58 Alex Cole-Hamilton ..................................................................................................................................... 60 Maggie Chapman ....................................................................................................................................... 62 Mark Griffin (Central Scotland) (Lab).......................................................................................................... 63 Alexander Stewart (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) ...................................................................................... 65 The Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Covid Recovery (John Swinney) ............................. 68 BUSINESS MOTION ........................................................................................................................................... 72 Motion moved—[George Adam]—and agreed to. DECISION TIME ................................................................................................................................................ 74 TARIFF-FREE TRADE DEALS ............................................................................................................................. 86 Motion debated—[Jim Fairlie]. Jim Fairlie (Perthshire South and Kinross-shire) (SNP) ............................................................................. 86 Finlay Carson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) ................................................................................. 89 Colin Smyth (South Scotland) (Lab) ........................................................................................................... 92 Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) ......................................................................................................... 94 Michelle Thomson (Falkirk East) (SNP) ..................................................................................................... 96 Emma Harper (South Scotland) (SNP) ...................................................................................................... 97 Beatrice Wishart (Shetland Islands) (LD) ................................................................................................... 99 Alasdair Allan (Na h-Eileanan an Iar) (SNP) ............................................................................................ 100 Paul McLennan (East Lothian) (SNP) ...................................................................................................... 102 Jenni Minto (Argyll and Bute) (SNP)......................................................................................................... 103 Gillian Martin (Aberdeenshire East) (SNP) ............................................................................................... 105 The Minister for Environment, Biodiversity and Land Reform (Màiri McAllan) ......................................... 107 1 8 JUNE 2021 2 alongside people and let them know that they are Scottish Parliament not alone. If we are created to live in a relationship with God and in fellowship with one another, there Tuesday 8 June 2021 will always be something missing until we enter into that relationship and fellowship. [The Presiding Officer opened the meeting at I ask you to speak to the faith communities in 14:00] your constituencies. You will be welcomed, and I believe that you will find a group of people who are Time for Reflection willing to respond to human need with loving service. You will find a group of people who are The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone): passionate about creation, the earth and how to Good afternoon. I remind members that social sustain and nurture life on this planet. You will find distancing measures are in place in the chamber a group of people who realise that we are only as and across the Holyrood campus. I ask members great as the least of us, and that while any suffer, to take care to observe the measures, including we all suffer. when entering and exiting the chamber. Please use only the aisles and walkways to access your “So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is seats and when moving around the chamber. unseen, since what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal.” The first item of business is time for reflection. I wish you all the best for your new session. Our leader today is the Rev Anna Rodwell, who is Thank you. the minister for Kelso North and Ednam parish church in the Scottish Borders. The Rev Anna Rodwell (Kelso North and Ednam Parish Church): I will start us off in your new session with a little poetry. “Breathes there the man, with soul so dead, Who never to himself hath said, This is my own, my native land! Whose heart hath ne’er within him burn’d, As home his footsteps he hath turn’d, From wandering on a foreign strand!” Who wrote that? It was our other national bard— Sir Walter Scott. I am a Borderer, so what do you expect? I am deeply honoured and excited to be given the chance to facilitate a time for reflection—four minutes during which we can raise our thoughts above what we can see, touch and smell. It is a moment in which to contemplate the numinous. As a Christian, I have to stand ready to account for the hope that is within me, so when I was asked to address this esteemed Parliament, I thought, “What can I say that would be useful to the men and women who hold the fate of this glorious country in their hands?” That is when the words of Sir Walter Scott came to me. The passion that is present in Scott’s words is held by so many Scots for this, their land of birth or their adopted homeland, and it tells of a sense of belonging and security. However, now, at this time, we almost feel a sense of missing peace or piece—it can be spelled either way. There is an angst, a loneliness and a sense of being at sea. What can we do to help? The church is an organisation that exists to help people outwith its membership. It exists to foster community, to show God’s love in words and action, and to get 3 8 JUNE