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Thirty-Sixth Legislature Second Session - Thirty-Ninth Legislature of the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba Standing Committee on Legislative Affairs Chairperson Mr. Doug Martindale Constituency of Burrows Vol. LX No. 7 - 6 p.m., Wednesday June 4, 2008 ISSN 1708-668X MANITOBA LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY Thirty-Ninth Legislature Member Constituency Political Affiliation ALLAN, Nancy, Hon. St. Vital N.D.P. ALTEMEYER, Rob Wolseley N.D.P. ASHTON, Steve, Hon. Thompson N.D.P. BJORNSON, Peter, Hon. Gimli N.D.P. BLADY, Sharon Kirkfield Park N.D.P. BOROTSIK, Rick Brandon West P.C. BRAUN, Erna Rossmere N.D.P. BRICK, Marilyn St. Norbert N.D.P. BRIESE, Stuart Ste. Rose P.C. CALDWELL, Drew Brandon East N.D.P. CHOMIAK, Dave, Hon. Kildonan N.D.P. CULLEN, Cliff Turtle Mountain P.C. DERKACH, Leonard Russell P.C. DEWAR, Gregory Selkirk N.D.P. DOER, Gary, Hon. Concordia N.D.P. DRIEDGER, Myrna Charleswood P.C. DYCK, Peter Pembina P.C. EICHLER, Ralph Lakeside P.C. FAURSCHOU, David Portage la Prairie P.C. GERRARD, Jon, Hon. River Heights Lib. GOERTZEN, Kelvin Steinbach P.C. GRAYDON, Cliff Emerson P.C. HAWRANIK, Gerald Lac du Bonnet P.C. HICKES, George, Hon. Point Douglas N.D.P. HOWARD, Jennifer Fort Rouge N.D.P. IRVIN-ROSS, Kerri, Hon. Fort Garry N.D.P. JENNISSEN, Gerard Flin Flon N.D.P. JHA, Bidhu Radisson N.D.P. KORZENIOWSKI, Bonnie St. James N.D.P. LAMOUREUX, Kevin Inkster Lib. LATHLIN, Oscar, Hon. The Pas N.D.P. LEMIEUX, Ron, Hon. La Verendrye N.D.P. MACKINTOSH, Gord, Hon. St. Johns N.D.P. MAGUIRE, Larry Arthur-Virden P.C. MALOWAY, Jim Elmwood N.D.P. MARCELINO, Flor Wellington N.D.P. MARTINDALE, Doug Burrows N.D.P. McFADYEN, Hugh Fort Whyte P.C. McGIFFORD, Diane, Hon. Lord Roberts N.D.P. MELNICK, Christine, Hon. Riel N.D.P. MITCHELSON, Bonnie River East P.C. NEVAKSHONOFF, Tom Interlake N.D.P. OSWALD, Theresa, Hon. Seine River N.D.P. PEDERSEN, Blaine Carman P.C. REID, Daryl Transcona N.D.P. ROBINSON, Eric, Hon. Rupertsland N.D.P. RONDEAU, Jim, Hon. Assiniboia N.D.P. ROWAT, Leanne Minnedosa P.C. SARAN, Mohinder The Maples N.D.P. SCHULER, Ron Springfield P.C. SELBY, Erin Southdale N.D.P. SELINGER, Greg, Hon. St. Boniface N.D.P. STEFANSON, Heather Tuxedo P.C. STRUTHERS, Stan, Hon. Dauphin-Roblin N.D.P. SWAN, Andrew, Hon. Minto N.D.P. TAILLIEU, Mavis Morris P.C. WOWCHUK, Rosann, Hon. Swan River N.D.P. 253 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA THE STANDING COMMITTEE ON LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS Wednesday, June 4, 2008 TIME – 6 p.m. Bill 25–The Embalmers and Funeral Directors Amendment Act LOCATION – Winnipeg, Manitoba Bill 29–The Business Practices Amendment Act CHAIRPERSON – Mr. Doug Martindale (Disclosing Motor Vehicle Information) (Burrows) Bill 38–The Balanced Budget, Fiscal VICE-CHAIRPERSON – Mr. Rob Altemeyer Management and Taxpayer Accountability Act (Wolseley) * * * ATTENDANCE – 11 QUORUM – 6 Mr. Chairperson: Good evening, will the Standing Members of the Committee present: Committee on Legislative Affairs please come to order. Hon. Mses. Allan, Melnick, Oswald, Hon. Mr. Selinger The first item of business is election of a Vice- Chairperson. Are there any nominations? Messrs. Altemeyer, Borotsik, Cullen, Hawranik, Nominations? Nominations? Maguire, Martindale, Saran Hon. Nancy Allan (Minister of Labour and APPEARING: Immigration): I nominate the MLA for Wolseley (Mr. Altemeyer). Mr. David Faurschou, MLA for Portage la Prairie Mr. Chairperson: Thank you, Ms. Allan. Mr. Hugh McFadyen, MLA for Fort Whyte Mr. Rick Borotsik (Brandon West): I nominate the Mr. Blaine Pedersen, MLA for Carman Member for Turtle Mountain (Mr. Cullen). Mrs. Mavis Taillieu, MLA for Morris Mr. Peter Dyck, MLA for Pembina Mr. Chairperson: Are there any further Mrs. Myrna Driedger, MLA for Charleswood nominations? Mr. Ron Schuler, MLA for Springfield We've had two nominations: the Member for Mr. Kelvin Goertzen, MLA for Steinbach Wolseley and the Member for Turtle Mountain. Then Mr. Leonard Derkach, MLA for Russell I guess we'll need to have an election. Mr. Kevin Lamoureux, MLA for Inkster All those in favour of Mr. Altemeyer, please WITNESSES: indicate by raising their hand. Bill 29–The Business Practices Amendment Act Clerk Assistant (Ms. Tamara Pomanski): 1, 2, 3, (Disclosing Motor Vehicle Information) 4, 5. Mr. Rick Negrych, Private Citizen Mr. Chairperson: Opposed, please raise your hand. Bill 38–The Balanced Budget, Fiscal Thank you. Management and Taxpayer Accountability Act Now we will vote on Mr. Cullen. All those in Mr. Gordie Dehnn, Private Citizen favour of Mr. Cullen, please indicate–only those Ms. Valerie Chatain-White, Private Citizen people who are members of the committee. Mr. Greg McIvor, Private Citizen Clerk Assistant (Ms. Pomanski): 1, 2, 3. We're Mr. Wayne Benson, Private Citizen missing Mr. Maguire. Mr. David G. Newman, Private Citizen Mr. John Feldsted, Private Citizen Mr. Chairperson: All those opposed, please indicate by raising your hand. All those opposed, MATTERS UNDER CONSIDERATION: please raise your hand. Bill 6–The Securities Amendment Act Thank you. 254 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA TJune 4, 2008 Clerk Assistant (Ms. Pomanski): Mr. Altemeyer, 5. Mr. Chairperson: Mr. Negrych, I was one of the people that was smiling, and I will apologize to you. Mr. Chairperson: Mr. Altemeyer is declared It had nothing to do with you. It had to do with elected Vice-Chair. something that happened before you came to the This meeting has been called to consider the podium, but nonetheless, I apologize, and we will try following bills: Bill 6, The Securities Amendment to give you our undivided attention. Please proceed. Act; Bill 25, The Embalmers and Funeral Directors Mr. Negrych: Thank you very much. We have Amendment Act; Bill 29, The Business Practices safeties in place now that every vehicle that's sold Amendment Act (Disclosing Motor Vehicle has to go through a safety before it can be registered. Information); Bill 38, The Balanced Budget, Fiscal If it's not safetied, you can't register it, and in my Management and Taxpayer Accountability Act. experience over the last few years, one of the worst For the information of the committee, additional offenders is the Province of Manitoba. I worked at meetings have been called. They are as follows: the highways department for some 23, 24 years, and Thursday, June 5, at 6 p.m.; Friday, June 6, from 10 we would do safeties on these vehicles, but if a a.m. to midnight; Saturday, June 7, from 10 a.m. to buddy of the foreman or the shop supervisor needed midnight; Monday, June 9, from 10 a.m. until noon, work, we were too busy and these vehicles would go and again at 6 p.m.; Tuesday, June 10 at 6 p.m. out. They would go out not to have a safety done on it. They'd go out to get a green sticker put on the Bill 29–The Business Practices Amendment Act window, on the windshield, because the green sticker (Disclosing Motor Vehicle Information) was the criteria to register a vehicle. Mr. Chairperson: As was previously agreed to this Then these vehicles would come back and the morning, we'll set aside Mr. Borotsik's motion to mechanics with a conscience, we wouldn't let them hear Mr. Negrych's presentation. go on the road. We'd bring them back into the shop and do the work, in some cases, $2,000 and $3,000 I now call on Mr. Negrych to make his worth. I'm not sure if the highways minister was presentation, Bill 29, The Business Practices aware of that, but as I go back a few years, and some Amendment Act. of you may know him, Joe Borowski, he's the only Please proceed. one in my years with the highways that had a backbone to clean house when it was necessary. He Mr. Rick Negrych (Private Citizen): I'd like to dealt with some of these issues, but he's not around thank the committee for allowing me to speak here. anymore so perhaps maybe the present highways minister would care to look into the situation because I have some idea, basically, of what I speak on it's a serious one. These trucks are big vehicles. They this as I spent some 36 years in mechanical trade are going down the highway at 100 kilometres an here in Winnipeg and a couple of years in Alberta. hour, in some cases are not safe and shouldn't be on When I look at this and they're saying that the the road because they are not properly safetied. dealers that are set up there, which are springing up in every corner of the block at this time and have However, to get back to the cars, we have safety been for the last few years, these are used-car shops in Winnipeg that are supposed to be doing dealers. They're saying that they have to disclose if safeties. We have dealers in Winnipeg that are there's anything wrong with the vehicle, selling these cars and putting them through safeties, mechanically or otherwise. I find this interesting in but the safeties are not done properly, and in some the fact that we have a law in place right now which cases at least, these vehicles are going on the road is called the safeties which have to be in place. registered with safety factors in place, or not in place. I mean, if an engine isn't working properly, it's I was asked to speak here, and I find it very rude a hazard but you can get around it.
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