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THURSDAY, 19 NOVEMBER 1998 House. I again ask you to refer this matter with this further information to the Members' Ethics and Parliamentary Privileges Committee.

Mr SPEAKER (Hon. R. K. Hollis, Redcliffe) read prayers and took the chair at 9.30 a.m. PRIVILEGE Appointment of Ms M. O'Donnell Mr DAVIDSON (Noosa—LP) (9.34 a.m.): I PRIVILEGE rise on a matter of privilege. During a past Queensland Small Business Council sitting I had cause to bring to the attention of Mr DAVIDSON (Noosa—LP) (9.31 a.m.): I this House another matter of privilege involving rise on a matter of privilege. On 12 November the Premier, which related to the appointment 1998, I rose on a matter of privilege pertaining of Ms Marg O'Donnell as Director-General of to the misleading of this House by the Deputy the Department of Fair Trading. Mr Speaker, I Premier and Minister for State Development wrote to you on this matter on 13 November on the issue of the Small Business Council. 1998 and have yet to receive a response. The misleading statement came in a response However, it is clear that the Premier has lied to to an earlier question asked on 11 November this House 1998 by the member for Toowoomba South, Mr SPEAKER: Order! That is not in which the Minister stated— parliamentary. "I have written to the members Mr BEATTIE: I rise to a point of order. asking them to again indicate their This week the Opposition has lowered the tone interest in serving on the Small Business of this place. That remark is a continuation of Council. Although I have not received too it. I find it offensive. I ask that it be withdrawn many as yet, I am expecting responses to and that Opposition members start to that invitation." participate in a decent parliamentary process. In my initial matter of privilege I advised Mr DAVIDSON: I will withdraw. It is in this House that I had taken the opportunity of black and white; it is in Hansard; it is in the telephoning council members and Hansard of the Estimates committee hearings. subsequently discovered that not one of those Anyone who wants to peruse those members had received any correspondence documents—— from the Minister. Later in the same morning, the Honourable Minister rose on a matter of Mr BEATTIE: I rise to a point of order. Mr Speaker, in the last few days, as a result of privilege suddenly arising and tabled a this issue being raised by the member, I have memorandum dated 30 October 1998 from his written to you about this matter and have policy adviser addressed to the Minister and a explained fully—fully—the decision that has signed but undated letter from his ministerial been made in terms of the guidelines. office to the Chairman of the Small Business Council, Mr Murphy. The Minister asserted that Mr DAVIDSON: Mr Speaker, I have not he had signed the letter during the course of received a response from you as yet. The the previous week, that being the week from 2 Premier has had more than four weeks to to 6 November 1998, and had sent the signed respond to this matter and apologise to the letter back to his Ministerial Correspondence House. I believe that anyone who peruses Unit. those documents will clearly see that the Premier has misled this Parliament. It is On 13 November, I was advised by perfectly clear that the Premier has been less members of the council that they had, in fact, than honest to this House. I again ask for this only just received their undated letters in the matter to be brought to the attention—— mail on that day—13 November 1998. For the benefit of honourable members of this House, Mr BEATTIE: I rise to a point of order. I I repeat: they had, in fact, only just received find that offensive. I ask for it to be withdrawn. their undated letters that very day. That being I have responded to you as the Speaker, the case, it leads me to ask how the Minister which is the appropriate course, referring to the was in a position on 11 November 1998 to matter raised by the member and explaining it have received any responses to the invitation in detail. I find it offensive and I seek for it to as stated in his response to the question from be withdrawn. the member for Toowoomba South. Mr SPEAKER: Order! Before I let the Mr Speaker, it is my strong belief that the member recommence the matter of privilege, I Deputy Premier and Minister for State point out that, yes, I received information from Development has deliberately misled this the Premier. I do not accept instruction from 3370 Petitions 19 Nov 1998 members of the House as to when I have to and Minister for State Development, I await reply. When I reply is when I have read all the your ruling on that matter of privilege also. information that is there before me and have made my decision on that matter. AUDITOR-GENERAL'S REPORT Mr DAVIDSON: Mr Speaker, with respect, I have not asked you to reply to my Mr SPEAKER: Order! Honourable correspondence. I stated in this House only members, I have to report that today I that I have yet to receive a response from you received from the Auditor-General the following to the correspondence we had between our report entitled Report No. 2 1998-99, A Review offices. I think it is quite clear, as the of the Expo 2002 Bid and the International documents will prove, that the Premier has Garden Festival 2000 Bid. I table the said misled this House. report. Mr BEATTIE: I rise to a point of order. It is not true. It is offensive. I ask for it to be PETITIONS withdrawn. It is not true. The Clerk announced the receipt of the Mr DAVIDSON: What did the Premier find following petitions— offensive? I am rising on a matter of privilege. I do not think he has taken a point of order. I am rising on matter of privilege. If the Premier PD Mortgage Services Pty Ltd wants me to withdraw, he should take a point From Mr Feldman (9 petitioners) of order. requesting the House to take steps to Mr SPEAKER: Order! The member has immediately fully investigate the facts of Mr already quoted that point of privilege three Justice Fryberg's concerns in the matter of PD times. There is a point when we reach the end Mortgage Services Pty Ltd and certain of requoting. solicitors and further immediately take whatever steps are necessary to fully protect Mr DAVIDSON: Mr Speaker, I ask for your innocent lenders and borrowers, allocate ruling. What are you asking me to withdraw? sufficient resources to bring justice to the Mr BEATTIE: Mr Speaker, can I assist? I matter and restore public, private and business rise to a point of order. The honourable confidence in this section of the mortgage member suggested that I had misled the market. House. That is untrue. It is offensive. Under the Standing Orders, I seek for it to be withdrawn. Mount Crosby Deviation Road Project Mr BORBIDGE: I rise to a point of order. From Mr Hamill (153 petitioners) The concern raised by the Premier is yet to be requesting the House to direct the Minister for determined. We have the honourable member Transport and Minister for Main Roads to for Noosa raising a matter of privilege—— intervene to ensure the Mount Crosby Deviation Road project continues without Mr SPEAKER: Order! The very fact further delay. that—— Mr Beattie: How long have you been in this House? Burpengary, Freeway Noise Barrier Mr BORBIDGE: I sat here and the From Mr Hayward (76 petitioners) member for Brisbane Central called me corrupt requesting the House to make an order on the for two and a half years. He has a glass jaw; necessary authorities in the State of that is his problem. Queensland to take action to erect a noise barrier between Burpengary Pine Village and Mr SPEAKER: Order! The Leader of the the freeway. Opposition! Mr DAVIDSON: I agree with the Leader of the Opposition. The boot is on the other foot. Finch Hatton Creek Dam It is about time the Premier started to wear it. I From Mr Malone (53 petitioners) believe that the Premier has misled this requesting the House to support the House. If he prefers, I will say that "allegedly" completion of the study to identify the key he has misled this House. I await your ruling, environmental, social, cultural and heritage Mr Speaker, in response to the issues associated with the construction of a correspondence I have had with your office. In dam on Finch Hatton Creek at AMTD 3.2 km relation to the further information I provided as stakeholders at the top of the Pioneer earlier today in regard to the Deputy Premier Valley believe that Finch Hatton Creek Dam 19 Nov 1998 Ministerial Statement 3371 may represent the only viable water resource Tomorrow I will be involved in celebrations development option capable of providing at two major developments in south-east additional, affordable water to satisfy Queensland. In the morning I will be attending agricultural and urban demand at the top end the site launch of the Imax Theatre on of the Pioneer Valley. Brisbane's South Bank. This is a $20m investment in a 450-seat theatre. The theatre is a crucial part of the South Bank master plan, Cairns City Council which also includes a redeveloped Grey Street From Mr Nelson (648 petitioners) lined with trees and entertainment venues, a requesting the House to investigate the Cairns grand arbour, an underground car park and City Council and their management of water parklands. Once established, the theatre will resources, including an investigation into the support 50 employees. impact studies that were carried out prior to The person who made the Imax imposing these drastic cuts, so they have a fair experience possible was a Queenslander. Ron water allocation and a reasonable excess Jones was a Brisbane engineer who charge that suits their climate shifts, from wet specialised in repairing and upgrading cinema to dry. projection equipment. He discovered the principles behind the Imax projection system while working on a vastly different project for a Telegraph Road, Upgrade radiographer at the Prince Charles Hospital From Mr Nuttall (218 petitioners) back in 1964. Dr Jim Hood wanted to make a requesting the House to consider in slow-motion X-ray film to show a beating conjunction with the extension of Linkfield human heart. To do that, he needed a way of Road, that Telegraph Road be upgraded to transporting X-ray film through the camera at main road status to accommodate this ever high speed. The technical problems were so increasing, all hours of the night traffic; large that Dr Hood asked his friend Ron Jones however, we also submit that a heavy traffic for help. Once he had solved the problem, route from Bracken Ridge Road via Hoyland Ron realised the possible applications. By the Street to Strathpine Road would severely time Imax Corporation heard of Ron's system, decrease the quality of life of all residents in it was working commercially at the Eldorado this area and should not be considered as a Cinema in Brisbane. They bought it and now means of solving this problem. the system is used in Imax theatres around the world. Petitions received. In the afternoon I will open another outstanding tourism-related development in PAPERS Surfers Paradise. I refer to the $35m Mediterranean-style Marrakesh Apartments for MINISTERIAL PAPERS the Raptis Group. Up to 180 people were The following papers were tabled— employed on site during the seven months of Minister for Communication and Information construction of Marrakesh. The ongoing and Minister for Local Government, Planning, operation of the resort will provide jobs for a Regional and Rural Communities (Mr further 25 people. One hundred and twenty of Mackenroth)— the 143 units on offer have already been sold Local Governments Debt Redemption to buyers locally, interstate and overseas in Fund—Annual Financial Statements for the New Zealand and South-East Asia. This shows year ended 30 June 1998 that, contrary to a newspaper report this week, buyers and developers can have confidence in Queensland Local Government Financial the Gold Coast and its future. Review 1997-98.

MINISTERIAL STATEMENT MINISTERIAL STATEMENT National Memorial Walk Imax Theatre; Marrakesh Apartments Hon. P. D. BEATTIE (Brisbane Central— Hon. P. D. BEATTIE (Brisbane Central— ALP) (Premier) (9.43 a.m.): The Royal ALP) (Premier) (9.41 a.m.), by leave: This Australian Regiment has a proud record of State is on the move again. The private and service to this nation. Since it was formed in public sectors are spending billions of dollars 1948, its personnel have served in hot spots on major new projects throughout the State. across the globe: Japan, Korea, Malaya, These projects are providing thousands of jobs South Vietnam, Cambodia, Somalia, Borneo for Queenslanders now and for the future. and Sarawak, to name just some. That service 3372 Ministerial Statement 19 Nov 1998 has come at a cost: 685 soldiers of the efforts in getting this legislation in place and regiment have fallen in foreign fields. arriving at a solution which satisfies provincial But those soldiers have not been Governments, landowners, commercial parties forgotten. Their sacrifice is being honoured in a and the PNG Government. very special way at Gallipoli Barracks in Over the past few weeks there have been Enoggera. Late in 1996, the Royal Australian a number of important milestones regarding Regiment Association began to build a this project. Two weeks ago, the Queensland National Memorial Walk at the barracks. Two regulator and the ACCC approved the access years and a lot of hard work later, the walk principles for the AGL/Petronas pipeline. consists of a landscaped area, trees with These access principles provide customers name plaques at the base of each, and a with the tariffs that will apply for the Australian commemorative building designed to hold an portion of the pipeline. The tariff is one of the honour roll of the dead. most competitive in Australia and is less than In the 1997-1998 Budget, the State $1 a gigajoule for establishment customers for Government donated $27,378 to the walk to the 2,000 kilometres from the PNG border to pay for the manufacture and placement of Gladstone. To put this in perspective, this is a gunmetal name plaques at the base of each transportation tariff which, on a cents per kilometre basis, is around half that of other tree. The 1,200 native trees in the walk were major pipelines in Queensland. kindly donated by the Brisbane City Council. Last week, the Federal Government I am pleased to be able to tell honourable considered a package of measures which members that tomorrow I will be handing over would provide support to a range of major another cheque for $23,290 to Major General projects, including the Comalco alumina Murray Blake, the chairman of the walk refinery. Details in relation to this package are committee. This money will cover the costs of being finalised in Canberra, but clearly this is a the honour roll for the commemorative major vote of confidence and support. The building. Queensland Government has been having Sunday will be a proud day for the discussions with the Commonwealth regiment. The Governor-General, Sir William Government and its advisers for a number of Deane, will officially open the National months. We are pleased that the Memorial Walk in a ceremony which celebrates Commonwealth Government at last appears the regiment's 50th anniversary. It seems to as though it may take a proactive role in me to be most fitting that, while celebrating supporting industry development in Australia. with the living, the regiment—the major infantry Projects of this size and magnitude will unit of the Australian Army—is remembering its always involve many difficult and complex brave dead. From Sunday the walk will be issues which inevitably take considerable time open to the public and it will be used on and effort to resolve. One of the key memorial occasions such as Anzac Day and outstanding issues in relation to this project is Vietnam Veterans Day. I urge all honourable seeking a firm and binding commitment from members and their constituents to take the Comalco, which is potentially one of the key time to visit the walk. foundation customers. Comalco has been assessing the establishment of an alumina MINISTERIAL STATEMENT refinery in Australia for some years now. Indeed, the company was originally due to Papua New Guinea Gas Project choose a preferred site for its refinery two and Hon. J. P. ELDER (Capalaba—ALP) a half years ago. Little progress was made (Deputy Premier and Minister for State under the coalition Government and, indeed, a Development and Minister for Trade) number of decisions were made that impacted (9.46 a.m.), by leave: The proposed $3.5 adversely on the project. However, a billion Papua New Guinea to Queensland gas Queensland Government package was offered pipeline achieved another important milestone to Comalco. this week when the PNG Parliament passed On coming to office this Government key enabling legislation. The passage of the convened urgent meetings with Comalco and PNG Oil and Gas Act provides the market with extended that support package, making it increased certainty regarding the fiscal regime contingent upon Comalco reaching a firm and access principles that would apply in PNG commercial agreement with Chevron and a and clears the way for all parties to now commitment to Gladstone as its preferred site. complete commercial negotiations. The PNG At that time Comalco advised that there were Government is to be congratulated on its a number of outstanding issues, including 19 Nov 1998 Ministerial Statement 3373 finalising access principles and obtaining facilitate a range of other projects in the support from the Commonwealth Government. electricity/gas area. Whether or not the The State Government has made every pipeline becomes a reality, it is this possible effort to iron out many of these Government's aim to ensure that Queensland outstanding issues and, as indicated, access has access to a range of competitively priced principles are finalised, PNG legislation has fuel options and is not captive to one energy been passed and support now appears as source or fuel type. though it will be forthcoming from the Federal Currently, around 15 electricity/energy Government. The onus is now very much on projects are undergoing feasibility studies in Comalco to finalise its respective negotiations Queensland. Clearly, only a handful of those with Chevron and commit to the project. projects will proceed, and the Department of Those opposite gave up on this project a State Development and the Department of long time ago and the Leader of the Mines and Energy are working with a number Opposition said that Comalco would never of those projects. For instance, recent commit. The Government all along has been encouraging developments with coal seam realistic and open eyed about the possibility of methane indicate that it could potentially be a extended delays occurring to the PNG gas major energy source for Queensland. The project because of the timing of commercial Government is keen to work closely with the decisions by Comalco and the Rio Tinto board coal seam methane producers to ensure that in London. As a result, the Government has this resource is able to reach its full potential. been working on a range of options in Likewise with a number of the coal-fired power partnership with the private sector which would stations, the Government is working to resolve enable the PNG gas project to proceed should bottlenecks that arise with specific projects. Comalco be unable to commit within the next Queensland offers some of the most few weeks. Likewise, the project's proponents exciting prospects for electricity and gas are well advanced in commercial negotiations industry development anywhere in Australia. with other major customers. The challenge facing Government is to facilitate projects while still encouraging The PNG gas project is aiming to obtain competition in the market. Major national and firm gas sales agreements early in the new international companies have recognised the year and, therefore, the next month will be potential of Queensland's energy sector and critical in terms of finalising commercial the Beattie Government is taking a proactive arrangements between all parties. While the role in working with these companies to Government has taken a proactive role in trying to facilitate developments, the project will generate competitive energy and sustainable jobs for all Queenslanders. depend very much on all parties arriving at sound commercial arrangements, and any loss of momentum in this regard would be MINISTERIAL STATEMENT extremely disappointing. Main Roads Trade Mission to Sichuan, Projects of this size and magnitude China require commitment, determination and vision Hon. S. D. BREDHAUER (Cook—ALP) by all parties, including Government. The (Minister for Transport and Minister for Main Government has had the courage to provide Roads) (9.52 a.m.), by leave: I rise on this that commitment, determination and vision. occasion to inform the members of Parliament The benefits to Queensland in terms of jobs, that the Director-General of the Department of regional development, industrial development Main Roads has successfully led a high-level and greenhouse gas savings would be huge. trade mission to the Province of Sichuan in Nevertheless, there is a lot of work to do for China. Following a second visit to Queensland the proponents of this project and only a small by the Sichuan Department of Transport in window of opportunity for the remaining May of this year, an invitation was extended to milestones to be reached. The success of this the Department of Main Roads to visit project would be great for all Queenslanders, Chengdu, the capital of Sichuan, and to but no Government can guarantee that Leshan, a city in the south-east of the success. The next couple of months will be Province. In response to this invitation, Main crucial for the project. Roads proactively organised a trade mission There has been some comment in this comprised of delegates from both the place as to whether the Government is department and Queensland private sector adopting an even-handed approach to other companies that have skills and expertise in the energy related projects. I assure the House identified areas of need, including highway that the Government is also working to technology, pavement technology, traffic 3374 Ministerial Statement 19 Nov 1998 management, plant hire, civil engineering, reported in newspapers in Hong Kong and road building supplies and highway Beijing, as well as Sichuan. Sichuan is also of management. importance to several cities in Queensland, The principal reason for the invitation was notably Maroochydore, which has a sister city for my director-general, on my behalf, to sign a agreement with Chengdu, and Hervey Bay, memorandum of understanding with the which is soon to sign a sister city agreement Sichuan Department of Transport and to with Leshan. participate in the hand-over ceremony for the In addition to the MOU signing ceremony, management rights of three road projects in my director-general participated in the hand- Leshan city to an Australian owned firm, Gang over ceremony of the Leshan Bridge, Le Wu Feng Group Corp. Main Roads was Road and Jia E Road to Gang Feng Group. instrumental in facilitating Austream, Gang This represents a $60m investment by an Feng Group's Brisbane-based subsidiary, to Australian firm in China's highway network. source Queensland products and services to This is a first for Queensland and is welcomed the value of $25m for installation in its Leshan openly by the Sichuan Provincial Government highway projects. On 4 November, the MOU and the Sichuan Department of Transport. was signed in Sichuan and this bilateral David Qing, the chairman of the Gang Feng agreement now paves the way for further trade Group, has received the prestigious Friendship initiatives between Queensland and Sichuan. Award from the Chinese Central Government My director-general has advised me that for his role in developing closer ties between transport and tourism are two priority areas for Australia and China. This is also a first for development in Sichuan and that Sichuan's Queensland. infrastructure projects have the potential to In light of increasing globalisation, offer enormous trade opportunities to proactively building relationships with our close Queensland under the agreement. Armed with overseas neighbours is indeed important for the MOU, Main Roads is now in a position to Queensland's private sector. The success of broaden trade opportunities available to this trade mission provides ample evidence Queensland by assisting the Sichuan that the Queensland Government has an Department of Transport to source additional integral role to play in initiating and building products and services from both the these relationships. I am proud of the forward- Department of Main Roads and Queensland's looking trade initiatives that have been transport-related private sector for the implemented by my department. I am certain construction, management and maintenance that they will both enhance Queensland's of 1,000 kilometres of new highways in economy and create jobs for Queenslanders. Sichuan. Mr Liu, the Sichuan Minister for Transport, has indicated that trade negotiations are expected to start immediately. MINISTERIAL STATEMENT As an indication of the strength of the MOU, in Riverview Community Renewal Project December he is sending a third delegation comprised of senior officers from the Hon. R. E. SCHWARTEN (Rockhampton— construction arm of the Sichuan Department of ALP) (Minister for Public Works and Minister for Transport to Main Roads. Housing) (9.56 a.m.), by leave: I wish to inform the House of progress on the Riverview The trade mission to Sichuan and the community renewal project at Ipswich. As signing of the MOU represents the significant honourable members would know, the first steps towards building a relationship Community Renewal Program commenced at between Main Roads and the Sichuan Leichhardt at Ipswich in 1995. It has since Department of Transport and, indeed, adds encompassed about a dozen projects of significantly to the growing relationship various sizes around the State in areas between Queensland and Sichuan. The MOU containing a high concentration of public and the flourishing relationship between housing. This year, we have injected an Queensland and Sichuan has the support of additional $7.5m into the Statewide program, the China Secretariat, Department of State taking the total budget to $27m. Development, which was represented in Sichuan by a Shanghai-based senior trade The Riverview project was also started in officer. This MOU is being treated as a 1995. To date, 190 public housing dwellings significant breakthrough by the Chinese have been upgraded and 228 houses have Provincial Government in terms of opening up been fenced at a cost of $4.8m. The Ipswich to the outside world. The signing ceremony Moreton Community Apprenticeship Scheme was covered on Sichuan TV and was has been the contractor at Riverview and has broadcast to over 100 million viewers. It was employed an average of 21 apprentices for 19 Nov 1998 Ministerial Statement 3375 every 20 houses upgraded. Since 1995, a many of the direct mail scams flooding total of 32 apprentices have completed their Queensland. apprenticeships at Riverview. In the same Recently, the Office of Fair Trading was period, a further six trainees have been alerted to unusual activities associated with a employed. The project's budget for 1998-99 is post office box in the Brisbane area. When the $1.5m, some of which will help fund the office analysed complaints and inquiries from upgrading of almost 50 houses. the United Kingdom, it became apparent that Recently I was pleased to approve the the Queensland mail box was being used as a provision of a surplus public housing dwelling clearing house and a cover for International for use as a Police Beat at Riverview. This Monetary Funding. Inquiries have revealed this shows what can be achieved for local group targeted senior citizens in the UK. They communities when Minsters such as my received mail from France and other places colleague the Minister for Police and I are saying they had won a cash prize of £2000. committed to worthwhile projects such as the They were then invited to subscribe to a pool Community Renewal Program. As has already of international lotteries by sending between been proved at Riverview, urban renewal $A50 and $A182 to the Brisbane post office projects can result in a substantial drop in box. Over 230,000 British consumers crime, as well as a fall in the fear of crime. At responded to this promotion and some of Riverview, local police report a 60% decline in them sent cash, cheques, or money orders to crime over the past few years. the company, care of the post office box. This Government has shown that results Either knowingly or unwittingly, a will flow when urban renewal schemes focus Queensland based company is helping IMF to on people, and not just on bricks and mortar. rip off elderly people in the UK. In exchange Since becoming the Minister for Housing, I for a fee from IMF in Vancouver, it has have stressed the need to involve local processed thousands of responses. The communities in urban renewal programs. This money trail shows it diverted funds to a bank is a view shared by the local member for the account in Vanuatu and sent the name and Riverview area and my ministerial colleague address details to IMF in Vancouver. When the member for Bundamba, Bob Gibbs. As approached by Fair Trading investigators last part of that process, a review of the Riverview month, the Queensland company agreed to Community Action Plan is due to begin soon cut its ties with IMF and assist with inquiries. and will work in conjunction with The Royal Canadian Mounted Police representatives of local residents and the have advised that Vancouver is the Ipswich City Council. The Government's international headquarters for more than a commitment to community renewal in hundred suspect direct mail companies. Riverview is strong and will continue. Names that have been linked to IMF, and in respect of which Queenslanders should beware, include— MINISTERIAL STATEMENT Ravenshoe Services; International Direct Mail Hoaxes International Lottery Management Hon. J. C. SPENCE (Mount Gravatt— Consortium; ALP) (Minister for Aboriginal and Torres Strait World Currency Transfer Reserve; Islander Policy and Minister for Women's Policy and Minister for Fair Trading) International Lottery Commission; (9.58 a.m.), by leave: I wish to bring to the Canadian Lottery Buyers Association; attention of honourable members the plague Financial Payments Bureau; of deceptive and suspect direct mail that is invading the homes of Queenslanders and International Processing Center; other consumers around the world. Through Transworld Lottery Commission; the use of selective mailing lists, this Charter Subscriptions; reprehensible trade deliberately targets elderly citizens who are seen as easy prey. Worldwide Lottery Commission; and I wish to highlight the Queensland link The Crown Management Group. with one deceptive lottery scheme run by a Unfortunately, people who subscribe to company called International Monetary such dodgy schemes part with their money Funding, which is based in Vancouver, forever, as their hard-earned dollars are Canada. Later in this statement, honourable diverted through a maze of bank accounts members will no doubt share my concern for a under different names. The companies Rockhampton woman who has fallen victim to deliberately promote themselves overseas to 3376 Ministerial Statement 19 Nov 1998 make it difficult for law enforcement agencies However, the Great Artesian Basin is to punish them. However, the Queensland under great stress and its viability is being Office of Fair Trading is liaising with the threatened by enormous wastage from Australian Competition and Consumer uncontrolled bores that have been taken for Commission, the British Office of Fair Trading granted for more than 100 years. Alarming and Canadian law enforcement agencies with drops in artesian pressure are threatening the aim of disrupting and prosecuting the entire ecosystems and reducing economic perpetrators. opportunities. This trend is one that has to be reversed. If it is not, some time next century it One Queensland pensioner who has could lead to one of the greatest fallen victim is Mrs Barbara Morley of environmental disasters that this country has Rockhampton. I thank the member for seen. Rockhampton for bringing the plight of Mrs Morley to my attention. In recent years, Mrs Last year Queensland took a lead role in Morley has been inundated with direct mail addressing this problem by forming the Great from International Monetary Funding as well as Artesian Basin Consultative Council. Its chair is other bogus lotteries, suspect cash offers and a western Queensland pastoralist, John dodgy jewellery promotions. Mrs Morley has a Seccombe. The Commonwealth, Northern shoe box full of direct mail, which I now hold Territory, South Australian, New South Wales up for honourable members to see. and Queensland Governments are all represented, as are local government, the Every week, Mrs Morley receives letters community, indigenous, environmental and from these companies. She has trusted industry groups. The first task of the people and she has sent away money. Over consultative council has been to prepare a the past two years, Mrs Morley has spent draft strategic management plan to save the hundreds of dollars on direct mail promotions. basin and protect the economic benefits All she received from them is one ring, which a Queensland derives from it. The plan has jeweller says is worthless. The jeweller said that recently been endorsed by the Beattie Cabinet it was worth almost nothing, but Mrs Morley and it will be released by me and other State paid $53. Ministers in Adelaide at the Murray/Darling On 21 September, I issued a media Basin Ministerial Council meeting tomorrow. release warning Queensland consumers about Public submissions are being called on this International Monetary Funding. The Office of plan until the end of April next year. The draft Fair Trading has set up a hotline to receive plan proposes a shared responsibility between calls from consumers who have lost money to both the public and private sectors. It also IMF and other schemes. We should all urge includes proposals for education programs, elderly people and those around them to clarification of water entitlements, greater stamp out this trade by starving it of business. monitoring of water pressures and water use. I call on local firms to refuse help to the We have no choice other than to pick up perpetrators. If we work together we can do the pace of rehabilitating uncontrolled bores something about the cruel scams that bedevil and improving water distribution systems. We our elderly citizens such as Mrs Morley. need better management practices and better institutional arrangements. It is a partnership between the Federal and State Governments, MINISTERIAL STATEMENT industry and water users which will be vital if we are to find solutions in the future. Full Great Artesian Basin implementation of the draft plan could save up Hon. R. J. WELFORD (Everton—ALP) to 300,000 megalitres of water a (Minister for Environment and Heritage and year—equivalent to the volume of water in Minister for Natural Resources) (10.03 a.m.), Sydney Harbour. It will stop the decline in by leave: The Great Artesian Basin is one of artesian pressures and allow for new uses, our most valuable natural assets. It lies such as mining developments, allow the beneath 20% of Australia across four States. It environment to recover and will open up is the largest source of artesian freshwater in economic benefits, such as ecotourism. the world. It is of enormous environmental, The Queensland Great Artesian Basin economic, cultural and social significance for Advisory Committee, BHP and the Queensland and the rest of Australia. It Queensland Government have also developed provides water needs for more than 200,000 a new initiative called Adopt a Bore. This Australians—for the pastoral industry, rural promotes corporate industry involvement in the communities, mining companies and repair of uncontrolled bores. BHP is providing indigenous people. significant industry leadership with its 19 Nov 1998 Ministerial Statement 3377 involvement. The sponsorship is a clear officers who are out there saving lives in industry commitment towards rehabilitation of difficult, sometimes life-threatening, the Great Artesian Basin. The draft strategic circumstances. plan which I will launch tomorrow has Over the past couple of weeks we have significance to all of Australia but especially to seen first-hand the wonderful work performed Queensland, because 70% of the Great by our ambulance officers at two horrific Artesian Basin lies under our State. Its crashes, one at Cunningham's Gap and one rehabilitation is also crucial to maintaining the on the Warrego Highway between social, cultural and environmental values of Toowoomba and Oakey. While nothing people who live in this arid region of our State. diminishes the tragic loss of life resulting from The draft strategic management plan for the those accidents, both involving buses, the fast Great Artesian Basin is a positive step towards response, the professionalism and the Queensland's economic and environmental expertise of ambulance officers on the scene wellbeing and the Beattie Government's aim of at both incidents no doubt saved lives. But creating new jobs and securing jobs and many incidents attended by QAS staff do not opportunities for communities into the future. make the headlines. In fact, our ambos are called out to around 460,000 incidents each MINISTERIAL STATEMENT year—about 123,000 of them Code 1 emergencies. Our ambulance officers save Ambulance Services lives every day. Hon. M. ROSE (Currumbin—ALP) The 65 extra operational positions this (Minister for Emergency Services) (10.07 a.m.), year will help lighten their load. In addition to by leave: The State Government is committed the new positions, the QAS will get 50 new or to enhancing ambulance services to the replacement vehicles and 10 new or people of Queensland. We will deliver free replacement stations this year. But enhancing ambulance services to an estimated 850,000 emergency response is about more than just pensioners, Seniors Card holders and their putting extra staff and vehicles on the road. dependants from 1 January 1999. This is the This Government is installing new technology, Government's way of thanking our seniors, including computer-aided dispatch and who have been valuable contributors to automatic vehicle location systems. The Queensland society over many years. technology will provide support to our front-line However, we are committed to improving ambulance officers and help boost ambulance emergency responses for every Queenslander. responses to emergencies. As part of this financial year's budget, I The QAS budget also includes $500,000 announced that 44 new ambulance officer for training communications staff around the positions would be created around the State. State. In addition, $300,000 will be spent on In fact, I am pleased to announce today that establishing residences in remote areas of the there will be 65 extra operational positions. State to attract ambulance officers to those Already, an additional 24 student and regions. This boost acknowledges the need for ambulance officer positions have been adequate incentives to ensure rural and allocated to the regions. They went to Greater remote areas have access to quality Brisbane, two ambulance officers; South East, ambulance services. nine ambulance officers and one transport officer; North Coast, eight students; South The combination of these initiatives West, one communications operator; Central, represents a significant boost in resourcing for one officer; Northern, one student; and Far the Queensland Ambulance Service. North, one student. Importantly, it also means 65 extra jobs for Queensland. It means a stronger future for the Another 41 positions, costing almost $2m, Queensland Ambulance Service, and it means have been created. There are 18 new peace of mind and better patient outcomes for ambulance officers and 23 student positions. Queenslanders. Two ambulance officers and three students will go to Townsville, one officer and a student to Rockhampton, an officer and student to PERSONAL EXPLANATION Toowoomba, four officers and three students to Caloundra, six officers and six students to Kimberley College Greater Brisbane, four ambulance officers and Mr HEGARTY (Redlands—NPA) six students to be shared by Beenleigh, (10.10 a.m.), by leave: Yesterday, in response Southport and Ipswich and three students for to a question from the member for Merrimac, Cairns. This allocation will go some way the Education Minister selectively quoted from towards lightening the load of our dedicated correspondence from the previous Education 3378 Legislative Standards Amendment Bill 19 Nov 1998

Minister to me regarding Kimberley College. the document to which the honourable The inference from the Minister's statement member refers. was that the member for Merrimac, when Minister, was personally intervening in the due process which all applicants requesting private PUBLIC ACCOUNTS COMMITTEE school status underwent. If the Minister had Report read the letter in full, it would have been clear to him that Mr Quinn was endeavouring to Hon. K. W. HAYWARD (Kallangur—ALP) expedite the assessment of that school's (10.14 a.m.): I lay upon the table of the House application, not overrule the due process that a report entitled Report No. 46: Review of the its application had to undergo. Auditor-General's Reports—First Quarter 1998Ð99, and I move that the report be Mr SPEAKER: Order! Is this a personal printed. explanation or are you defending Mr Quinn? Ordered to be printed. Mr HEGARTY: I am just getting to it. Mr HAYWARD: The Auditor-General Furthermore, the Minister referred to a tabled three reports during the period 1 July local newspaper article in which I made a 1998 to 30 September 1998. The committee's comment on the Labor Party's backing for an report outlines its review and follow-up action open-ended secondary trial of a multi-age undertaken as a result of consideration of learning process. The then shadow Education matters raised within the Auditor-General's Minister, Steve Bredhauer, said that an ALP reports. Government would invite surrounding State high schools to take on a multi-age program. I would like to thank the committee He further said that the pilot could be ready for members for their support and efforts during the start of the 1999 school year. He then the preparation of this report. I particularly want went on to say that the trial would coincide with to place on record the work of Megan Collins in the application by the Kimberley College preparing this report, and I also want to note steering committee to open a private high the committee's thankyous for the efforts of school. Anita Sweet and Mandy Elcome in the compilation of the report. I commend the Interestingly, the newspaper article goes report to the House. on to discuss how Education Queensland had already authorised the establishment of a trial multi-age Year 7/8 class at nearby Springwood NOTICE OF MOTION State High School, and the Kimberley Park school community was encouraged to take up Tariff Protection, Sugar Industry that offer. It was in relation to this issue that I Dr PRENZLER (Lockyer—ONP) said that the Labor Party was offering nothing (10.15 a.m.): I move— more than what was on offer at that time and "That this Parliament press the not what the Minister implied—that the Federal Government to re-introduce some member for Merrimac was prepared to override degree of tariff protection for the sugar due process, as the current Education Minister industry to provide a more secure future now seems prepared to do. for growers and farm workers." Mr SPEAKER: Order! This does not appear to be a personal explanation. LEGISLATIVE STANDARDS AMENDMENT Mr HEGARTY: Like any member of this BILL House, my intention was to support the Kimberley Park school community to achieve Mr NELSON (Tablelands—ONP) its education aims whilst working within the (10.15 a.m.), by leave, without notice: I guidelines established by Education move— Queensland. I hope that this "That leave be granted to bring in a misrepresentation by the Minister is just Bill for an Act to amend the Legislative another oversight as he struggles to come to Standards Act 1992." grips with his portfolio and that it is not a Motion agreed to. blatant attempt to mislead the House. Mr SPEAKER: Order! That is not a personal explanation. First Reading Hon. D. M. WELLS (Murrumba—ALP) Bill presented and Bill, on motion of Mr (Minister for Education) (10.14 a.m.): I table Nelson, read a first time. 19 Nov 1998 Legislative Standards Amendment Bill 3379

Second Reading are doing our State and our country a great Mr NELSON (Tablelands—ONP) disservice. To enshrine the differences (10.16 a.m.): I move— between cultures in this country will cause ongoing divisions, which will ultimately bring "That the Bill be now read a second this nation to its knees. time." It is a fact that, when a group in society Before I begin, let me say at the outset has bestowed upon it by Government special that my motive for introducing this amendment recognition or special treatment, then is sincere. I am committed to the concept of resentment will grow among those who missed equal treatment, as far as practicable, under out. In doing this, we just go the other way. At the law. I believe in the concept of the one stage in history it was the Aboriginal individual and the right to such things as life, people who were treated harshly by legislation. liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I say that By going out of our way now to favour these it is the solemn responsibility of the members people, we are alienating other people in the of this House to ensure that equal treatment community. for all Queenslanders is enshrined in the legislation and the laws that we produce. I also find it a little patronising that this once proud people, who learned over My amendment to the Legislative Standards Act 1992 is designed to ensure that countless generations to live in harmony with all legislation drafted by the Parliamentary the harshest land on earth, is now beholden to Counsel and, therefore, all legislation that a Government which classifies them as a enters this Parliament should treat everyone single entity. The Government has decided equally, regardless of their race, colour, creed that the entire Aboriginal race is in need of or cultural background. Section 4(3)(j) presently special treatment, regardless of their individual reads— circumstances. As a result, the Aboriginal people are now in many ways dependent on "... has sufficient regard to Aboriginal special treatment and incapable of doing tradition and Island custom." things that other members of society are While I appreciate certain aspects of Aboriginal capable of without some form of help. custom and culture, it is certainly not superior I put it to the House that any people who to my culture, or any other culture for that can live for so long under the tough extremes matter, and this Parliament should not afford of our Australian climate has no need of our Aboriginal culture special treatment. To treat patronising and misguided attempts at fixing the Aboriginal culture as separate and in need their problems. It is understandable and of special treatment is perpetuating the natural that people who are excluded by their already grossly overemphasised differences Government feel resentment towards both and further fuels division in our society. their Government and those who receive extra Government members interjected. legal rights based solely on their race or colour, Mr NELSON: They cannot handle the but the pendulum has swung too far. It is truth. foolish in the extreme for a Government to continue to provide a certain race or culture Under this amendment, item (j) of the Act extra rights over the rest. To do so is to go too will be replaced with— far in an attempt to correct the past. "ensures everyone is equal before I salute the attempt at rectifying the and under the law, regardless of race." inequity, but I sincerely believe that we have This will mean that all legislation should reflect exceeded the limit. We all know the dangers of this principle, and I defy any member of this overstepping the mark. If we wish to prosper in House to refute the logic and nobility of the the future—— amendment. Government members interjected. I put it to members of this House that any Government that deviates from the doctrine of Mr NELSON: If members listened, they equality or any Government that produces would learn. If we wish to prosper in the future, laws which bestow special status or benefits to and if we wish to take advantage of and certain races and not others is courting with benefit from the tremendous wealth and disaster. The catchcry of my generation should opportunity that this great State and nation be "Equal Rights", not "Extra Rights". I further offer, then we must cultivate and encourage a put it to all members that, if we in this place do strong identity, a strong work ethic and a not sincerely believe in the concept of equality strong sense of purpose. of the races and do not reflect this belief in the Above all, we must push the concept of legislation and laws that we produce, then we equality and make every citizen in this State 3380 Private Members' Statements 19 Nov 1998 believe that they are equal in every way to the Surfers Paradise club in 1935 as a every other citizen and that their needs will be member of the boat crew. He was the club's met because they are Australian, not because chief instructor for many years and coached of their race. We cannot do this when one the senior team to win the Australian section of the community becomes polarised Premiership in 1956. He was a character in the against the other. It is foolish in the extreme true sense of this most Australian of sporting for this or any other Government to and community service pastimes. He was a institutionalise the very discrimination and extra pioneer of the sport in Queensland and while rights that I am talking about. many of the younger members of the Economic change aside, I am sure that movement will not have known him personally, one of the reasons Australia did so well in the they all knew about him. past is that it had a strong identity, a strong His friend Billy James was quoted in the sense of pride and a national vision. We are Gold Coast Bulletin yesterday retelling a great still the wealthiest State in the wealthiest tale about Fred. It relates to a two-bob bit, country in the world, and we can achieve great which shows how old the story is, that some things for our country, our State and ourselves, joker—it was Bob Rigby, another surf-lifesaving but this cannot happen while this Government identity—put under Fred's cake of soap in the institutionalises the concept of apartheid in showers. He bet that it would be there at the legislation. end of the year, and it was. I find it humbling that I can stand here in Mick Claybourn's funeral is today. Mick this House and echo the words of Nelson was awarded the Medal of the Order of Mandela. While I was a student at high school, Australia back in the eighties. He was a I watched a movie about another civil rights steadfast and staunch activist for the surf- activist called Steve Biko. His struggle against lifesaving movement throughout his life. I know apartheid and tragic death at the hands of its that the Gold Coast and Queensland are the perpetrators is well documented, and the lesser for their passing. It is on such human memory of the movie that was a moving endeavour that the real worth of communities tribute to his struggle is part of what fuels my is built, as are the legends that any society stand here today. needs to collect in its history. If we in this Parliament are truly committed to the noble concept of equality Mulgrave By-election and genuinely wish to ensure that all legislation produced in this House embraces Mr LUCAS (Lytton—ALP) (10.24 a.m.): that commitment, then we have no choice but The day before yesterday in this House we to support this amendment to the Legislative heard the member for Tablelands and the One Standards Act. I commend the Bill to the Nation Party bleating about the allocation of House and urge all members to reflect deeply Labor preferences in the coming Mulgrave by- upon the concept of equality in legislation and election. The Premier was true to his word. upon what we can do to make it a reality. People know what Labor is talking about; we put One Nation last. We see in today's Courier- Debate, on motion of Mr Beattie, Mail that the National Party, the party that said adjourned. it did not support optional preferential voting, has copped out on putting One Nation last by PRIVATE MEMBERS' STATEMENTS using how-to-vote cards which show only a "1" next to its candidate. Mr F. Richards; Mr M. Claybourn What about One Nation itself? What is its Hon. R. E. BORBIDGE (Surfers record on preferences? Let us look at what Paradise—NPA) (Leader of the Opposition) happened during the last State election. One (10.23 a.m.): I record the passing of two of the Nation changed its direction more times than a most staunch supporters of surf-lifesaving washing machine agitator. First, it was not Queensland has ever known: Fred Richards, going to direct preferences to any party. who died in Brisbane on Monday, aged 98; Second, it was to direct preferences to political and Mick Claybourn, life member of Surf Life parties in about six seats. Then it was to direct Saving Queensland, South Coast Branch, and preferences in less than 20 seats—probably former president of the Broadbeach Surf Life about 12. Then on the day of the election it Saving Club. directed preferences in 15 key seats—all to the Fred Richards was a legend of surf- National and Liberal Parties. People such as lifesaving. He was a life member of the Surfers the member for Redlands, of the One Nation Paradise club and the first to be awarded life Nationals, can thank One Nation for supporting membership of the association. Fred joined a pro-GST National/Liberal coalition. 19 Nov 1998 Questions Without Notice 3381

What about the Federal election? We had National Competition Policy in the same way the so-called double-sided how-to-vote card, that the National/Liberal coalition used them to the Clayton's how-to-vote card, with the defend our dairy industry against this coalition side coloured and the Labor side competition madness. bland. One Nation was caught out in Next month I travel to Canberra, where I Capricornia. The pre-poll preferences all went will make representations to Federal members to the National Party. In Groom, the double of Parliament on behalf of Queensland sided how-to-vote card directed preferences to newsagents. I have spoken with the National the National Party on both sides! Party Leader in the Senate, Senator Ron One thing is for sure in Mulgrave: no Boswell, and will be working closely with him matter what happens and no matter what One and National Party members in Canberra to Nation says between now and the by-election, take up the fight on behalf of newsagents in on the day its preferences will go to the pro- Queensland. GST National Party to support Rob Borbidge Last week all members of this House and his sell-out of Queensland on the GST. supported a motion which put the people of Queensland and jobs ahead of the blind pursuit of competition. I urge the Government Australian Competition Tribunal Ruling on and all members of this House to stand by this Newsagents motion by supporting the coalition's campaign Mr HORAN (Toowoomba South—NPA) to protect Queensland newsagents, their (Deputy Leader of the Opposition) families and their employees. (10.26 a.m.): The decision yesterday by the Australian Competition Tribunal to discard newspaper delivery, magazine distribution and Multiculturalism subagency rules, which have been in place for Mr REYNOLDS (Townsville—ALP) decades, will destroy the livelihood of (10.28 a.m.): In the past 24 hours we have thousands of newsagents and their families heard some very contrasting speeches in this across this State. The people of Queensland House. At 9.35 a.m. yesterday we heard the have had enough of unrepresentative councils Premier, Peter Beattie, enunciate the and tribunals that continue to pursue their celebration of diversity, which incorporates our ideology of competition at any cost. rich and different cultures and backgrounds, of The human cost of the decision by the which we are proud. He explained this Australian Competition Tribunal is enormous. Government's commitment to multiculturalism Newsagents and their families have invested and stressed that we all have to work harder significant funds and time into building up their than ever before to foster knowledge, businesses across metropolitan, rural and understanding and acceptance. regional Queensland. One decision like this At 11.48 p.m. we heard the member for can destroy all of this work and investment, Lockyer's disgraceful attack on Australia's rendering their businesses worthless. multicultural policy. He emphasised the need for a return to that hoary old policy chestnut, In 1995 Queensland, under the then the policy of assimilation, and he attempted to Labor Government, signed up to the National give this Parliament some old, negative Competition Policy, as did other States. There stereotypes to attack Australia's successful are significant elements of the National policy on multiculturalism. Competition Policy which have cost jobs, particularly in rural and regional parts of I wondered why there were six One Nation Queensland, and simply transferred cash out members in the House at that time last night. of country towns to the cities and big We know they were in the House because corporations. In 1995, Paul Keating handed they salivated as they listened to the over the responsibility for business regulation member's attack on multiculturalism. to the competition bureaucrats. The people's Mr SPEAKER: Order! The time for Private representatives—members of this House— Members' Statements has expired. must regain responsibility on behalf of the people of Queensland. QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE The Queensland National/Liberal coalition has always defended Queensland Century Zinc Project newsagencies against the army of competition Mr BORBIDGE (10.30 a.m.): I refer the bureaucrats in Canberra and will continue to Minister for Mines and Energy to advice to him do so. I call on the present State Government about the Government's failure to assure a to use the public benefit provisions of the power supply for the Century project, provided 3382 Questions Without Notice 19 Nov 1998 to him ahead of the Cabinet meeting in Mount Mr McGRADY: Everybody in this Isa last month—a copy of which I table. I refer Chamber would know my views on Mr Jason particularly to that aspect of the advice which Yanner. I have expressed them on numerous suggests that unless the Government acts occasions. And more than anybody else, the soon, it will almost certainly face a $20m legal Leader of the Opposition knows those views. action from Pasminco concerning the In the community of Doomadgee, I receive Minister's failure to deliver power, and I ask: 95% of the vote. In the community of why has the Minister not acted to ensure a Mornington Island, I receive 95% of the vote. I power supply to what is potentially the world's understand, more than most people, the views biggest zinc mine? of the people in those Aboriginal communities. Mr McGRADY: Anybody in this I say to the Leader of the Opposition that Parliament or, indeed, anybody in the gallery this Government will ensure that that would assume that this issue has just arisen. transmission line eventuates and that the This was going on under the former Century mine, which I spent many years as a Government, and it is one of the problems that member of the Goss Government trying to we inherited. There have been numerous bring to reality, will in fact happen—more than negotiations and discussions. Plenty of action the Leader of the Opposition and his has been taken. Indeed, I understand that colleagues could ever achieve. next week or the week after, I will be in Boulia, where I will have the opportunity to discuss these matters and others with the NORQEB Goods and Services Tax board. Mr SULLIVAN: I refer the Premier to an NORQEB bid on the open market to do article in today's Courier-Mail written by Federal that particular job. There have been difficulties. Treasurer Peter Costello in which Mr Costello As the Leader of the Opposition would know, refers to $460m in revenue forgone by and as his former Cabinet colleagues would Queensland as part of the GST arrangements, know, NORQEB is not without blame in regard and I ask: is this article further and final to this matter. I assure Mr Borbidge that I and confirmation of the theft being perpetrated by my Cabinet colleagues will continue to work to Canberra against all Queenslanders? ensure that the Century mine, which this Mr BEATTIE: Let us no longer have any Government was partly responsible for getting arguments about the $465m that Queensland up and running, will continue to develop. is losing under the GST package because in this morning's Courier-Mail, who has confirmed the figure that the Treasurer and I have been Century Zinc Project talking about? Who is our reliable source? Mr BORBIDGE: I direct a further question Peter Costello! So let there be no argument to the Minister for Mines and Energy. Again I from the Opposition about this issue. Mr refer to advice to him in relation to power for Costello talks about the $460m figure. For the Century project and to the warning that, in once, I agree with him. He is right. relation to negotiating with Mr Yanner—and I But there is one thing that he is not right quote from the briefing note— about, and it is this. He talks about it in terms "Even if all Mr Yanner's objectives of being a windfall for Queensland. That is why were delivered to him after extensive he is taking the $460m. A windfall my foot! negotiation, there is no guarantee even Who is paying the $460m? Queenslanders then that Mr Yanner would agree to are! Every one of them is paying that extra particular development proposals. He has money. And who is taking it? Peter Costello, not yet reached an agreement (with which John Howard and "Mr GST" himself, Rob he has subsequently complied) on any Borbidge. project in the Gulf to date." Mr Borbidge interjected. I ask the Minister: why is he continuing to allow Mr BEATTIE: "Mr GST" is bleating over Murrandoo Yanner to threaten this project? there. He will go down in the history of this Specifically, when he had the power in his State not only as "Mr GST" but as a supporter hands to fix it, why did he reject legislation of higher taxes. Which are the parties that are which would have limited the ability of the likes seeking to destroy Queensland's low-tax of Mr Yanner to countermand the wishes of status? The National Party and the Liberal decent Aboriginal people and which he could Party, both in Queensland and in Canberra! now have enacted under the native title Which are the parties that are seeking to legislation? increase the tax burden on ordinary 19 Nov 1998 Questions Without Notice 3383

Queenslanders? It is the National Party and combination with his most recent right to the Liberal Party! negotiate legislation, is already enough to put My challenge to the Leader of the anybody off trying to get a mining project up in Opposition and John Howard is to go up to this State? Mulgrave and explain why they are a high-tax Mr McGRADY: The question should be party. I challenge them to explain to everyone treated with the contempt that it deserves. As I in Mulgrave why they want them to pay more mentioned a moment ago, the issue of the tax, which will then be transferred to New transmission line to the Century mine is not South Wales and Victoria to pay off their bed something new. It existed when the member taxes and their FID taxes. They should tell the and his colleagues were in Government. The people of Mulgrave why they are high taxers. Premier, the Deputy Premier, the Minister for They should tell them why they want them to Environment and I have worked long and hard pay more every time they buy a loaf of bread in trying to secure a solution to that problem. I, or every time someone uses a tourism service. more than most, understand the need for the They should tell them why they want to slug Century mine to come into production, them on food. "Mr GST" cannot argue any because that is one place in this State that more. Peter Costello has confirmed the figure, can provide work for Aboriginal people who and I thank him for his honesty at last. But would otherwise be condemned to the scrap based on the way they operate, one has to heap of unemployment. say that in Canberra they are all on another I do not need advice from the member or planet, because they do not understand how any of his colleagues about the development hard it is for the ordinary family to survive. They of the mining industry in this State. Under this do not understand how hard it is for the Government, we have removed the freeze that ordinary family to send their children to school the member and his Premier placed on the to be educated and to make ends meet. If mining industry of this State—a freeze that they did, they would not be putting a GST on closed down Union Mining in Georgetown, food. which threw almost 100 people on the Let me be very clear about this. In the unemployment scrap heap. The member and draft agreement put forward—we did not sign his policies stand condemned. I assure the it, but in the draft agreement that they put House that we will do all that we can to ensure forward—this Government's opposition to the that that transmission line goes to the Century GST was clearly stated. We would not sign it, mine and that that project becomes a reality. because we are opposed to a GST. We are opposed to the theft of $465m from Goods and Services Tax Queenslanders in the transitional period and the theft of further money after that. Mrs ATTWOOD: I refer the Treasurer to an article in this morning's Courier-Mail written by Federal Treasurer, Peter Costello. I ask: is Century Zinc Project Mr Costello correct when he claims that Queensland will be at least $400m better off Mr HORAN: I refer the Minister for Mines as a result of the coalition's GST package? and Energy to advice to him in relation to the stalled power supply to Century ahead of the Mr HAMILL: In common with the Premier, recent Mount Isa Cabinet meeting and to that this morning I read the article by the Federal aspect of the advice which says— Treasurer with great interest. Although the Federal Treasurer confirmed the Premier's "This power line is a high profile figures in relation to the money that project because its first customer is the Queensland will lose out of the GST, Mr biggest zinc mine in the world. If it is Costello could not maintain the standard. delayed, particularly when it has involved Towards the end of the article he went back to a Government-owned corporation which his old ways of half truth and misleading has carefully followed the correct comments. I note in the article that Mr Costello processes, a clear message will be sent states— which may deter any future mining developments in the State of "The Queensland Budget and state Queensland." taxpayers in future will benefit substantially from the Commonwealth I ask: even if there is now a resolution of the reforms. From the fourth year, the power supply issue, is it not the case that the Queensland Budget could be at least impact of the Minister's native title laws on this $400 million better off on the basis of the project over the period of five years, in illustrative figures." 3384 Questions Without Notice 19 Nov 1998

It is an interesting observation, but not very Century Zinc Project illustrative and not very enlightening. I Mr MITCHELL: I again refer the Minister remember very well what occurred at the for Mines and Energy to advice to him on the Premiers Conference last Friday. It would issue of power for the Century project and to appear that the Federal Treasurer is suffering that aspect of the advice that suggests from a certain amount of selective amnesia. compulsory acquisition of an easement for the What was clear was that, after the three-year power line and, further, that any such transition period—when the Federal acquisition would trigger a legal challenge from Government wants to rob Queensland of the Carpentaria Land Council on the grounds $465m—the Federal Government wants to that the power line is not a project for the ensure that the States do away with the stamp public benefit. I ask: if any acquisition program duty on business real property conveyancing. is commenced and does attract the predicted Unfortunately, that must have escaped the legal challenge from Mr Yanner, what action memory of Mr Costello when he published that would the Minister then propose to ensure a figure in the paper this morning. power supply, or at least a viable alternative Mr Borbidge: It escaped you until energy supply, so that Century can commence yesterday. operations on schedule in the second half of Mr HAMILL: It certainly did not escape next year? our attention. If the Leader of the Opposition Mr McGRADY: As far as our Government had sat there yesterday and received the full is concerned, the Century mine will go ahead. briefing from Treasury officers, he would have Negotiations and discussions are taking place understood the detail in the briefing paper with at the highest level of this Government. We will which he was supplied. As he was not ensure that the transmission line will prepared to do that, I will make the briefing eventuate. paper available to all members of this House. An Opposition member: What are you In fact, even the Federal Treasurer would going to do with Yanner? benefit from a perusal of that briefing paper. I Mr McGRADY: Members should just keep draw all members' attention to page 4 of the on watching this space. briefing paper, which shows quite clearly that the benefit to Queensland would be some $32m—— Mulgrave By-election; Optional Preferential Dr WATSON: I rise to a point of order. Voting The Treasurer is misleading the House. His Mr MUSGROVE: I refer the Premier to the position is not confirmed by the other announcement by the Opposition Leader that Treasurers and Premiers who attended the the National Party will not be directing Premiers Conference. preferences in the Mulgrave by-election. I ask: has the Opposition Leader been consistent on Mr HAMILL: The briefing paper states— this matter? "In the circumstances, the Budget Mr BEATTIE: The answer in one word, of gains to Queensland from national tax course, is: no. I found it very interesting that, reform are considerably reduced beyond earlier this month, the National Party and the transition period. For example, the Liberal Party State conferences called for an $421 million net budget gain"— end to optional preferential voting. We had all to which Mr Costello refers— sorts of chest thumping going on. Allow me to "in 2003-04 is reduced to $32 million." quote to the House what the member for Surfers Paradise said after those decisions. He For the benefit of the Leader of the Opposition said— and the Leader of the Liberal Party, I stress: only $32m. I table that briefing paper. "I think the optional preferential voting system is a bit of a mongrel dog Mr BORBIDGE: I rise to a point of order. voting system." The proposition put forward by the Treasurer has been rejected by every other State that He was condemning optional preferential the Opposition has contacted. It is the Hamill voting. I think that is clear. I have established version compared with everyone else's version. that. I do not think he liked it. What did he say yesterday? He said— Mr SPEAKER: Order! There is no point of order. "We have optional preferential voting in Queensland. That means that we can Mr HAMILL: I have tabled the report and I issue a how-to-vote card that says 'Vote 1 will provide it to all honourable members. Naomi Wilson' and preference the other Time expired. candidates to your choice." 19 Nov 1998 Questions Without Notice 3385

He is prepared to use the "mongrel dog" will the Minister immediately reinstate this system when it suits him. Talk about committee and then proceed urgently to hypocrisy—you could peel it with a potato discuss the issue with Senator Hill for the peeler! What an appalling lack of leadership! betterment of Fraser Island and take the Here we have the Leader of the Opposition opportunity to apologise for what he has supporting optional preferential voting. Let us done? not hear any more nonsense about the A Government member: What was the National and Liberal Parties opposing optional question? preferential voting. I thank the Leader of the Opposition; it is nice to have him on board. I Mr WELFORD: Mr Speaker, I did not get am delighted that he is backing our optional all the question. Could the member repeat it? preferential system of voting, because that Yes, I have made a mess of it: I should have gives people freedom of choice. done it months ago. As all members know, this advisory committee was appointed by the Dr Watson interjected. previous Government and the chair of it was a Mr BEATTIE: I hear the Leader of the former National Party Minister, Lin Powell. So Liberal Party interject. Which is the party that much for the independent advice of the stands for freedom of choice? It used to be advisory committee! the great tradition of the Liberal Party, which This advisory committee is a community used to say, "We are the party of freedom of advisory committee with a range of choice." I point out to the Leader of the Liberal representatives. They have been there for a Party that Labor is the party of freedom of couple of years and they have done a choice. We give people a choice under the reasonable job. This is a routine revitalisation optional preferential voting system. The of the committee to get new membership to Leader of the Liberal Party was at the Liberal provide broader community representation so Party State conference. Does he agree with that it can give to Senator Hill and me the best the Leader of the Opposition's backflip on possible advice on how to manage one of our optional preferential voting? Such hypocrisy greatest World Heritage areas, Fraser Island. from the Opposition is like trying to nail down a jellyfish; it goes all over the place. The Leader I will be talking with Senator Hill before I of the Opposition has been caught. I thank appoint any new members to the advisory him for his support on optional preferential committee. There will be ample consultation voting. We will look forward to his vote. between the Federal Minister and me. We will have an advisory committee that not only is more representative, that not only provides Fraser Island World Heritage Area better advice but also will have a chair who, Mr LESTER: I refer the Minister for unlike the National Party appointee, is Environment and Heritage and Minister for independent. Natural Resources to his very unceremonious sacking of the hardworking, dedicated advisory Expo 2002 committee for the Fraser Island World Heritage area. I table evidence of their hard work. I ask Mr FENLON: I refer the Premier to the Auditor-General's report tabled in the the Minister: is he aware that this committee Parliament reviewing the bid for the 2002 was set up at a ministerial level by the former Expo, and I ask: what action does the State Minister, Brian Littleproud, and Senator Government intend to take in response to the Hill with a view to its giving unbiased local report's recommendations? community advice? Why in his letter of 12 November did the Minister sack these people Mr BEATTIE: I thank the honourable when Senator Hill was overseas and not even member for the question. This morning, all inform Senator Hill—and then it was through members would have received the Auditor- an adviser—until yesterday afternoon? Does General's report covering two matters, the this mean that the Minister knew that he was Expo 2002 bid and the International Garden erring and was frankly too scared to face him Festival 2000 bid. There are matters in this on the issue? Does the Minister agree that he report that are of the utmost seriousness and really messed up on this issue when he of grave concern both to me as Premier and to himself had to send a letter late yesterday the Government. In particular, I notice that afternoon to Senator Hill? In view of the fact from September 1996 to 31 August 1998, the that there are calls for this year's million dollar total Expo bid was $13.03m. funding from the Federal Government to be In his report, the Auditor-General points suspended because of his complete out that, among other things, there were arrogance and disrespect for the agreement, inefficiencies—that is on page 3. On page 4 of 3386 Questions Without Notice 19 Nov 1998 the executive summary, he refers to a number thirdly, that we will be going through the of issues and states— recommendations with the attitude of adopting "Contractual arrangements did not all of those recommendations. As I say, that is always demonstrate appropriate market subject to detailed scrutiny, but that will be the testing to ensure compliance with the Government's attitude. I want to make certain fundamental principles of open and that this behaviour never, ever happens again. effective competition, value for money and ethical behaviour and fair dealings." Mulgrave By-election The Auditor-General states further— Mr FELDMAN: My question without notice "It was not apparent whether is to—— potential conflicts of interest were either One Nation members: "Mr GST". formally recognised or properly addressed by ensuring that an 'arm's length' Mr FELDMAN: Also known as the arrangement was established in all Premier. As it is now obvious that the National contracts." Party is determined to try to elect a Labor member in the seat of Mulgrave, can the He goes on— Premier advise the House of the nature of the "However, the inability of the Team deal that has been struck between Labor and and the Department to collectively the Nationals in a desperate attempt to keep achieve a satisfactory level of openness out One Nation—a move obviously driven by and transparency in the tendering the seal of approval and recognition given to arrangements to ensure that the optimum One Nation recently by the University of value for money for State expenditures Queensland as the party on the was obtained is of concern." ascendancy—— If Expo 2002 again becomes a Mr BORBIDGE: I rise to a point of order. I possibility—and I have already explained to find the suggestion by the honourable the House the difficulties now confronting the member that I would do a deal with the Government because of the delays by the Premier absolutely offensive, and I ask that it Philippines in withdrawing—we will work with be withdrawn. the Auditor-General to ensure that any actions Mr SPEAKER: Order! There is no point of that we take and any organisational order. arrangements that we make are done properly Mr FELDMAN: I can—— and will happen with the concurrence of the Auditor-General. Mr BEATTIE: I rise to a point of order. I find it even more offensive that I would do a However, I have to say that I am deeply deal with the Leader of the Opposition. In the concerned about this report. If members look interests of good government, I demand that at the report in relation to the International that comment be withdrawn. My reputation Garden Festival 2000 bid, they will note that could not sustain such an allegation. there are significant consultancy fees, as there were in relation to the Expo 2002 bid. For Mr SPEAKER: Order! It sounds as though example, there are matters contained in the there is a case of "Mulgravitis" around the report which indicate that things were not place. If this continues, a medical person will documented adequately and that if there were have to send a few people into isolation. any agreements or understandings between Mr FELDMAN: As I said, given that One the parties during this period, not enough Nation is the party on the ascendancy as the evidence was kept of them—not enough centre of democracy, according to the appropriate records were kept. Clearly, there University of Queensland, can the Premier also are matters in the report that need to be outline his new-found support for the GST addressed. through supporting the National/Liberal I will be going through the various coalition in Mulgrave? recommendations put forward by the Auditor- Mr BEATTIE: I find this question a little General. From my initial reading of them, I more than interesting and intriguing. I remind think that we will be implementing the lot. the honourable member for Caboolture and Clearly, I need to study them in more detail. his colleagues that an exchange of However, firstly, I want to indicate to the preferences between the National Party, the Parliament my concern about how these Liberal Party and One Nation Party ensured matters were handled; secondly, that we will One Nation's presence in this House. One be working with the Auditor-General to make cannot get any cosier arrangement than that. certain that this never happens again; and, That means that One Nation gave preferences 19 Nov 1998 Questions Without Notice 3387 to the National Party. So, in fact, One Nation say, "Put Queensland first; oppose the GST." supported a party that supported the GST. I Did he say that he wanted to oppose it? No, am alarmed about that. "Mr GST" is in favour of it. Mr Johnson interjected. Time expired. Mr BEATTIE: The member should watch his manners. It is absolutely important that Australian Competition Tribunal Ruling on members understand what is going on. The Newsagents Labor Party has made it clear where its preferences are going. As has been its view Ms NELSON-CARR: I refer the Treasurer consistently, One Nation will be last. Labor has to reports this morning relating to the distributed its preferences. The National Party Competition Tribunal's rulings on newsagents, is trying to hide its real position. It has said that and I ask: what are the implications of this it will vote "1", but who knows what the card will ruling for Queensland's newsagents? be on the day. As for One Nation—what is Mr HAMILL: Significant implications for One Nation going to do? None of us really Queensland newsagents arise out of the knows. The real Pandora's box that has not determination of the Competition Tribunal. If been opened is what One Nation is going to honourable members are not aware of the do with its preferences. tribunal's findings, I refer them to a report in Mr Sullivan: Ask him now. today's Australian Financial Review, which states— Mr BEATTIE: The member should be patient. I will give the member for Caboolture "Publishers should be allowed to an opportunity to tell us. What will One Nation make 'individual commercial judgments' be doing with its preferences in Mulgrave? about supplying their publications to any retail outlet from July 1999. Mr Feldman: "Vote 1—One Nation" as we've always done. The exclusive right of newsagents to supply newspapers to sub-agents on a Mr BEATTIE: One Nation has now wholesale arrangement should cease indicated to the Parliament that in all its how- from February 2000. to-vote cards there will be only "1—One Nation". So there will be no trick how-to-vote Newsagents should lose their cards like we saw at the last election. In the monopoly over newspaper home lead-up to the last State election some how-to- deliveries from February 2001 ..." vote cards in the prepoll went one way, and Those are very significant findings. Certainly, then on the day what happened? They went they would generate considerable concern another way! The Leader of One Nation ought among newsagents across the length and to be very careful because, if he continues to breadth of Queensland. do that, he will end up being like the Leader of I know that much rests on the Federal the Opposition. Government in relation to this matter, because Mr BORBIDGE: I rise to a point of order. I in return for votes in the 1996 Federal election, think it is dreadful that the Premier is reflecting Prime Minister Howard wrote to newsagents on the Labor Party in that way. promising that the existing arrangements that Mr SPEAKER: There is no point of order. governed newsagents' activities, including their territorial arrangements, would be maintained. Mr BEATTIE: I do not think that is even The ball is fairly at the foot of the Prime funny. The Leader of the Opposition has to Minister and the Federal Treasurer, Mr develop a sense of humour. I suggest that he Costello, in relation to this matter. and the member behind him should get together and develop a sense of humour, and In reflecting upon the findings, I wonder then they could walk backwards together. how Australia's international competitiveness will actually be enhanced by the decision to It is important that we have a clear throw open the arrangements whereby local understanding of where people stand. Only newsagents provide home deliveries of one party has been consistent right from the newspapers. I wonder exactly how our exports beginning in relation to preferences, and that are going to be further enhanced. Will we see has been the Labor Party. Everyone knows real competition between the newsagent who exactly where we stand. can lob the paper on the front path, the rival I come back to the GST, and I am happy who can lob it on the front veranda, or the third to talk about "Mr GST" sitting opposite. I want newsagent who can actually hand it to Fido to know whether he will ring up Senator who will run inside and deliver it at the bedside. O'Chee, Senator Boswell and the others to It is just a nonsense. 3388 Questions Without Notice 19 Nov 1998

Certainly, we have not seen the detail of Earlier this month, we advertised for the tribunal's report. I understand that it is a young people who wanted to be involved in fairly extensive report. When I obtain that our international business cadet scheme. We report, I will examine it closely, because I know plan to place the first of several students in the that it will be the subject of considerable first six months of next year. The idea is to give interest, not only for newsagents but also for students the opportunity to work within our their subagents and other players in the trade offices overseas to develop their publishing and newspaper industry. contacts within the business communities in which they are placed. They will then be able to use those contacts and the opportunities Burdekin Agricultural College that they develop overseas to enhance their Mr KNUTH: I refer the Minister for careers and generally broaden their Employment, Training and Industrial Relations knowledge. On 31 October, we advertised the to a letter dated 7 October 1998 that I positions and considerable interest was shown forwarded to him regarding the condition of the in the scheme. In the three weeks since we Burdekin Agricultural College and outlining its advertised, we have received over 250 urgent need for inclusion in the Q-Build applications and hundreds of inquiries have maintenance program, and I ask: has the been made. We anticipate that we will receive Minister considered this matter and can he a lot more applications. inform the House of his intentions for this We have also received significant interest much-needed program before the Burdekin from industry associations. Twenty-five industry Agricultural College deteriorates further and associations have expressed interest in needs more costly repairs. sponsoring cadets. The scheme has been set Mr BRADDY: I do not have the up so that industry bodies can sponsor the information in relation to the member's letter cadets, because when those cadets return to with me, but I can inform him that I have Australia they will work with the sponsoring already had a meeting in relation to the bodies. That will help the intelligence networks Burdekin Agricultural College. In fact, recently I and will spread the benefits of the scheme went to Mareeba and opened an annexe of between industry and the students, with the Burdekin Agricultural College. I presume Government playing a sponsoring role. that the member's letter relates to the college's The cadets will be placed in our main campus at Clare rather than the international trade offices. I am keen to get Mareeba annexe. I will certainly look into that this scheme up and running, and we plan to matter. have it established by early February of next I inform the honourable member that, on year. We will look at recruitment in August and 24 November, I am meeting with we will go back to our original time frame. representatives from all the agricultural Applications close on 14 December and I am colleges and we will be discussing aspects of pleased to say that we have seen—— capital works. That will give me an opportunity Mr Slack: How many positions do you to discuss directly the concerns of see being available? representatives from the Burdekin Agricultural Mr ELDER: At this stage, we will have one College in relation to this matter. As I say, that position in most of the offices, and we are meeting is set down for next Tuesday. looking at increasing that to two positions in the offices. If we can make two positions International Business Opportunities for available, we will do so. We are also talking to Young People industry associations about their sponsorship. As well as dealing with our side of this scheme, Mrs LAVARCH: I ask the Minister for we are also encouraging industry groups to State Development and Minister for Trade to sponsor students, so there is a double outline any steps that the Government is whammy. In other words, there will be a taking to encourage young people into commercial spin-off for industry associations, international business? and that will allow far more young people into Mr ELDER: I want to talk about the scheme. We are not looking for students preferences this morning, but I want to talk only. We are looking for young people—they about preferences for our young people. As a do not necessarily have to have a Government, we are committed to creating job degree—who have experience in international opportunities for young people. We are also business or who have been working with committed to international trade. Our business companies in the international trade area. If cadetships combine those two commitments. we can encourage companies to work with us, 19 Nov 1998 Questions Without Notice 3389 that doubles the opportunities in terms of jobs Mount Crosby Deviation Project for the young people. Mr MICKEL: I refer the Minister for Mr Slack: It's just the logistics of fitting Transport and Minister for Main Roads to them in with the size of the office. statements in the Queensland Times of last Mr ELDER: That is right, but our offices week made by the member for Ipswich West in can cater for that. which he called for the Mount Crosby deviation project to be scrapped—a proposal that would Time expired. never have had the support of Don Livingstone—and I ask: can the Minister inform Decline in Commercial Cane Sugar the House of the status of the Mount Crosby deviation project? Mr ROWELL: I refer the Minister for Primary Industries to the decline in c.c.s. in the Mr BREDHAUER: The proposed deviation wet tropics region, which has meant that many of Mount Crosby Road at Tivoli is located farm family incomes are less than the basic between Moores Pocket Road and Black wage. The viability of six million tonnes of Street. It will traverse the existing Harris Street sugarcane farming is now under threat. Can Road reserve, which has been widened by the the Minister inform the Parliament of the Ipswich City Council to allow for the proposal. initiatives, if any, that his department is The existing Harris Street formation will remain implementing to provide additional income to as a service road to provide access for local those families through alternative cropping on residents, allowing the proposed deviation to fallow land? be access free, except for an intended nursery Mr PALASZCZUK: Once again, it is very development. The design phase of the project disappointing to find the Opposition attempting is nearly complete, except for the resolution of to score cheap political points on a very issues relating to service relocations. Based on serious issue for one of our State's most current progress, tenders can be expected to important industries. It is interesting to look at be called in February/March 1999 and the what the coalition Government did in the past contract awarded in April 1999, with a duration two and a half years in relation to the sugar for the project of approximately six months. industry: it did absolutely nothing. However, to During the concept planning stage, the return to the question, I inform the House—— following consultations have been undertaken: Mr ROWELL: I rise to a point of order. letters have been issued to affected land The coalition did a lot for the sugar industry. owners giving details of the concept and We returned the ports facilities. That is foreshadowing any land requirements; currently being done. meetings with most of the affected land Mr SPEAKER: Order! There is no point of owners have occurred; and information sheets order. have been issued to the general public, including elected members, the police, media, Mr ROWELL: We provided $300,000—— emergency services and other people in the Mr SPEAKER: Order! There is no point of neighbourhood. The information sheet order. The member will resume his seat. described the project concept and the likely project times and personnel involved in the Mr ROWELL: But the Minister is saying project. A public meeting was held on the site that we did nothing. He has misinformed the to allow an opportunity to raise community House. concerns, and Main Roads' response to the Mr SPEAKER: Order! There is no point of community concerns resulted in the publication order. of further information sheets. The alternative Mr PALASZCZUK: I have notified the proposal put forward by Mr Paff is Federal Minister responsible for agriculture, approximately four kilometres long and could Mark Vaile, of the work being undertaken not cost in excess of $8m, depending on whether only by the Department of Primary Industries there are any old mines under the selected but also by the Centre for Climate Applications alignment. and other bodies in relation to the grain Mr PAFF: I rise to a point of order. The industry, the horticultural industry and the Minister is misleading the House. The distance sugar industry. At present, the Government is is not four kilometres. putting together a substantial case for exceptional circumstances in respect of those Mr SPEAKER: Order! There is no point of three industries. order. 3390 Questions Without Notice 19 Nov 1998

Mr BREDHAUER: Funding is not available Natural Disaster Relief Arrangements for the longer deviation. It does not lend itself Ms STRUTHERS: I direct a question to to a staged approach. It is unlikely,given other the Minister for Emergency Services. The priorities, that the longer deviation could be Labor Government has proven over the past justified at this time. four months that it is quick to respond to help A petition was tabled in the Parliament people in need with respect to the activation of today by the Treasurer, the member for natural disaster relief arrangements. I ask: can Ipswich, in relation to this matter. Some 153 the Minister advise the House of the criteria for people have signed that petition since Mr Paff NDRA activation and the need for went public on this issue last week calling for Queenslanders to protect themselves against the deviation project to be scrapped. We have loss from natural disasters? been through a long process of consultation in Mrs ROSE: I thank the member for the relation to this matter. All of the indications we question. I know she shares my concern that have had from the Ipswich City Council up to people are adequately covered in the event of the present time are that it strong supports the a disaster. The natural disaster relief project's proceeding. I understand that, as a arrangements can be activated when eligible courtesy, members of the Ipswich City Council damage in a specific geographic area exceeds have agreed to meet with Mr Paff on 14 $200,000. That has been the case after floods December. However, unless anything startling in south-west, central and northern were to come out of that meeting, we are Queensland and after the storms that recently determined to proceed. We know that it has hit Brisbane and Warwick. I have been happy the support of local residents. It had the to help the relevant local authorities foot the support of the previous member for Ipswich damages bill left by these unseasonal West in the years when he campaigned for conditions. Unfortunately, although homes in that road project. We will proceed with that the towns of Hughenden and Julia Creek were project notwithstanding the opposition of the damaged in recent storms, they did not meet current member for Ipswich West. the eligibility threshold. Under the natural disaster relief Decriminalisation of Marijuana arrangements, the funding is available for the restoration of public assets, such as roads and Miss SIMPSON: I ask the Minister for bridges. Primary producers and small Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Policy and businesspeople can apply for concessional Minister for Women's Policy and Minister for loans for restoration, restocking and carry-on Fair Trading: given her public support for the requirements through the Rural Adjustment decriminalisation of marijuana, indicated by Authority. Individuals suffering personal public comments such as, "The party has had hardship can obtain assistance under a a decriminalisation policy for several years. Its scheme administered by the Department of triennial conference voted unanimously last Families, Youth and Community Care. Non- week to urge Mr Goss to implement the profit organisations can also gain relief under policy", from the Courier-Mail of 9 July 1994, the same scheme. and her association with the Australian However, many people seem to think that parliamentary group on drug law reform, I ask: the natural disaster relief arrangements will she be using her ministerial influence to automatically cover private property and push for the decriminalisation of marijuana on personal losses. They do not. People must behalf of marijuana consumers? understand that while they may be eligible for Ms SPENCE: I am, similar to Malcolm limited assistance under the terms of the Fraser, Sir Rupert Hamer and many former natural disaster relief arrangements, we are and present Liberal, Democrat and Australian not able to pick up the tab for their private Labor Party members of Parliament, a property losses when they have no insurance. member of Australian Parliamentarians for Recent storms and the damage left in their Drug Law Reform. I have never hidden that. wake reinforce the vital need for people to take We are an Australiawide group. We are not a out private insurance. I was staggered to find group that favours the decriminalisation of out from the Insurance Council of Australia marijuana, and I believe I have never publicly that 20% of Queenslanders do not insure their or even privately argued that position. What home or buildings. They are taking a huge risk the member is talking about is an issue that is when the State is facing its worst storm season not within my portfolio responsibility, but I am for years. happy to talk about this issue and the group Just as disturbing is the statistic that 38% with any members at any time. of Queenslanders do not have contents 19 Nov 1998 Questions Without Notice 3391 insurance, and I understand that half of those I ask the Premier: will he decriminalise people who do have it are underinsured. I marijuana or will he be informing the Labor strongly urge all Queenslanders to insure Party conference that he has done a backflip themselves against property loss during the and will not be implementing party policy? coming storm and bushfire season. The recent Mr BEATTIE: Prior to the last election, I storms which lashed Brisbane, Warwick, was asked what was our position in relation to Hughenden and Julia Creek were clear marijuana. Let me be very clear. I stated that warnings that people should not be our position in relation to marijuana was complacent about their homes and exactly the same position that was seen under possessions. the Goss Government during the time that it Many people say, "It won't happen to was in office. That is the promise I went to the me." It can and it has. Some people suffer people on; that is the promise that we will losses from which they take years to recover; deliver on; that is the promise that the people others may never recover. This year we face understand. They saw the Goss Government's the dual risk of storms and bushfires. It is not attitude; they saw what the law was during that worth the risk not to be insured. Many people time; and that is exactly what we will continue have taken the risk and will pay the financial to do. penalty. I would hate that to happen again Mr Davidson: What was the Goss over the coming months. Government's attitude and what's your attitude? Decriminalisation of Marijuana Mr BEATTIE: So it will remain illegal— exactly the same position as under the Goss Mr DAVIDSON: I direct a question to the Government. Premier. Before I ask my question of the Premier, I refer to comments made by the Mr Davidson: It's Labor Party policy to Minister in the previous answer—— decriminalise. Mr BEATTIE: Let us be very clear—— Mr SPEAKER: Order! The member will just ask his question. He cannot refer to Mr Davidson: What were those laws? comments. Mr BEATTIE: I say to the muck-raker Mr DAVIDSON: I refer to the answer of opposite that he has had his chance. the Minister a moment ago and comments Mr SPEAKER: Order! The member will made in the Courier-Mail by both the Premier allow the Premier to answer the question. and the Minister for Aboriginal and Torres Mr BEATTIE: I want to answer his Strait Islander Policy and Minister for Women's question. The question is very simple: what did Policy and Minister for Fair Trading that— we go to the people on? We went to the "Before entering Parliament, Judy people on a clear commitment that the laws Spence was a high school teacher who that existed under the Goss Government worked mainly in the Logan area south of would remain under this Government. That is Brisbane. She said many but not all of exactly what we will do. The muck-raker her students and their parents grew and opposite, the Leader of the Opposition and smoked their own cannabis. others who seek to raise these extraneous questions simply because of the by-election in "I'd be quite confident that if the next the electorate of Mulgrave have, in fact, CJC report recommends decriminalisation insulted the intelligence of the Queensland of the personal use of marijuana, then the electorate. I gave a commitment; I am going Government will follow Labor Party policy to deliver that commitment; and everyone and go down that course,' Ms Spence knows exactly what the law was and is said. because it is the current law. The party has had a decriminalisation policy for several years. Its triennial conference voted unanimously last week Ayr Advocate; Member for Hinchinbrook to urge Mr Goss to implement the policy." Mr PEARCE: I ask the Minister for Primary The Premier is quoted in the same article as Industries: has he seen an article in the Ayr saying— Advocate in north Queensland dated Wednesday, 11 November, on the issue of "... many politicians were happy to trade c.c.s. research which quotes the member for on people's ignorance about the drug to Hinchinbrook as the Minister for Primary win votes and avoid having to make hard Industries. Can the Minister explain the decisions." situation? 3392 Questions Without Notice 19 Nov 1998

Mr PALASZCZUK: Yes, I have seen the DPI working on a strategy to address the c.c.s. article in the Ayr Advocate, and it is very problem. Honourable members should listen to curious indeed. It is entitled "Government this: I will be in a position to announce it and, funds to study CCS decline". On reading the more importantly, put it into action very shortly. article, I thought it was a story put in by me but, on having a closer read, I found that it says "Primary Industries Minister Marc Rowell Queensland Timber Industry said". Just to make sure that I was actually reading what I was seeing, I saw another Dr KINGSTON: I direct a question to the article here entitled "Child abuse legislation Minister for Environment and Heritage. The improved" and here I see "Minister for Queensland timber industry has an annual Families, Youth and Community Care"—not turnover of $1.7 billion. It involves 1,000 rural Kev Lingard, but—"Anna Bligh", and the date businesses, mostly in rural Queensland, and is 11 November. So I think there is, indeed, a employs 17,000 staff directly and 14,000 problem there. people indirectly. The RFA process has been proceeding, albeit slowly, in an atmosphere of The best that I can say about the article genuine cooperation between the quoting Mr Rowell, the member for stakeholders and the Government. However, Hinchinbrook, as the Minister for Primary the majority of players in the Queensland Industries is that it is out of date. Of course, it timber industry are now becoming increasingly is not just a little out of date; it is a good five concerned about an apparent hidden agenda months out of date. But then most of what the within the Minister's department, the coalition does and says is out of date. This Queensland Conservation Council and the article simply recycles a news release put out Wilderness Society to cause the cessation of by the coalition some time before the June native forest logging, and I ask: will the election. It must be very embarrassing for the Minister reassure this House and the timber Ayr Advocate and, yes, I do look forward to an industry that there is no such secret agenda apology from that influential journal. But this and that he and his department have not article must also be very embarrassing to the adopted an ideological position which pre- National Party. It contains a great pile of words empts sensible debate leading to a balanced and rhetoric about the very important issue of decision in the interests of all Queenslanders? c.c.s. decline in north Queensland which the coalition Government never acted on. Mr WELFORD: I thank the honourable Mr Borbidge: Wrong. member for his question. Let me tell him the position that the Queensland Government has Mr PALASZCZUK: The coalition bungled adopted. The position that we have adopted in its way through two and a half years of relation to forest operations in the timber Government and all it did at the very last industry is that we want to create more jobs. minute was to announce that it was going to Jobs and job security is what this Government do something about c.c.s. decline, but that is is about fundamentally in respect of all all it ever did. It only talked about it. Now the industries with which we are dealing, and the news release that was published belatedly—— forestry and timber industry is no different. Mr Rowell: Have a look at what was in the Budget papers. The RFA process in Queensland has now been going on for some time. It was due to be Mr PALASZCZUK: Mr Speaker, is it not finalised by 30 June this year. Under the marvellous how people can acquire knowledge previous Government there were delays—not when they are in Opposition? The news entirely the previous Government's fault, I release that was published belatedly in the Ayr must say, in the sense that the consultation Advocate last week is the sum total of the process has been very, very extensive and National Party's contribution to solving the numerous stakeholders were involved. I have c.c.s. problem. maintained input in that process from Mr ROWELL: I rise to a point of order. stakeholders by extending access to further There was clearly $300,000 shown in the timber resources in State forests, firstly, from Budget papers of the previous Government. 30 June to 30 September and further again until the end of this year. We expect that the Mr SPEAKER: Order! There is no point of RFA process will continue, and all stakeholders order. The member will resume his seat. will be informed. There is no secret agenda. Mr PALASZCZUK: We are getting on with We want an outcome that builds a timber and the job. As I have told this House on previous timber products industry in Queensland that is occasions, I have had senior officers of the second to none in Australia. 19 Nov 1998 Valuation of Land and Other Legislation Amendment Bill 3393

Manoora Community Renewal Project that this Government is pursuing the agenda Ms BOYLE: I refer the Minister for Public of jobs, that training is important to this Works and Housing to his recent visit to Cairns Government and that urban renewal is about and, in particular, to the time he spent people and about developing better lifestyles inspecting the Manoora community renewal and better communities in public housing project, and I ask: can the Minister detail any throughout the State. benefits already flowing from the project to the Mr SPEAKER: Order! The time for local community in terms of jobs? questions has expired. Mr BRADDY: I thank the honourable member for Cairns for her question. Today I VALUATION OF LAND AND OTHER want to lay praise at the feet of the member LEGISLATION AMENDMENT BILL for Cairns for the excellent job that she is doing in helping shepherd, I guess, this whole project Second Reading through. What we are learning about urban Resumed from 10 November (see renewal is that there is a need for grassroots p. 2859). involvement. This is about people; it is not Hon. V. P. LESTER (Keppel—NPA) about bricks and mortar, as I said in my (11.30 a.m.): The Opposition will be supporting ministerial statement this morning. The two this Bill, which overcomes some minor legal things go together. concerns in relation to wholesalers wanting to We met in Edmonton for our first access electronic valuation and historical sales Community Cabinet meeting. The purpose of data. This is simply part of the department's that was to get back to grassroots, to give program of increasing accessibility of its people an opportunity to provide information to information services. The amendment will allow the Cabinet Ministers on a one-on-one basis. specific contracts to be tailored for the In that process we picked up that the Manoora wholesalers. This is quite important. Owners of people wanted to be involved in this project subdivisional land will no longer have to apply and that they wanted to have their for concessional valuation for rates and land unemployed people involved in this project as tax. These concessions will now flow well. In other words, they wanted to have automatically and will not require departmental ownership of it. We listened to and took on processing. As a result, a considerable amount board what those people were saying. As a of red tape will be done away with. result of that, this week six people started on The Bill brings the status of Government- that urban renewal program. We are working owned land into line with privately owned land through the Cairns career training group. It has for the purpose of valuations. Currently, provided us with six people. They are working invisible improvements such as landfill are on fencing projects, landscaping projects and allowed to be factored in as part of the the like. We intend to extend that into the unimproved land valuation on private land but Moody Creek redevelopment project as well. not Government land. The Bill will apply this to When local members such as the Government land also. honourable member for Cairns get behind The Bill also prevents documents being these projects, it highlights the outcomes that lodged for registration under the Land Title Act projects such as this can bring when if those documents are inconsistent with Governments listen to people's views. We are another Act. The Bill puts the onus on the about jobs, jobs and jobs. I thank the people applicant to ensure that the documents of Manoora who gave up their time on that comply with other Acts. Sunday afternoon to come to Edmonton to The coalition in Government made a talk to me as the Minister concerned. I thank Cabinet decision to commercialise the the member for Cairns for following up on that. valuation services over a two-year period. Prior We will follow that project very closely. I thank to commercialisation taking effect it has been the member for her regular reports in that necessary to review legislation pertaining to regard. land valuations. This followed the completion The bottom line is that this is a by-product of the review of the State's valuation system in of the Community Cabinet process that this 1995. The changes proposed in this Bill are Government set in place. It is about taking the part of an ongoing review instigated by the Cabinet to the people and listening to and coalition and are part of a process to ensure acting on what people want. The Manoora that the valuation section will be commercially project—the job creation project—that we have viable once full commercialisation takes place. undertaken as a result of this is direct evidence I am quite sure these amendments would that the Community Cabinet process works, have the support of industry and the Urban 3394 Valuation of Land and Other Legislation Amendment Bill 19 Nov 1998

Development Institute. The Opposition is Clause 3— happy to support this Bill and we wish it a Mrs LIZ CUNNINGHAM: (11.37 a.m.): I speedy journey through the House to its logical wish to raise with the Minister a couple of conclusion. matters relating to the Valuation of Land Act Hon. R. J. WELFORD (Everton—ALP) 1944 as it stands. An issue of perpetual (Minister for Environment and Heritage and concern, particularly in the Gladstone City Minister for Natural Resources) (11.33 a.m.), in Council area, relates to the eligibility of reply: I thank the Opposition spokesperson statutory authorities paying rates. The greatest and the Opposition for their support for this concern of that council at the moment relates legislation. The legislation is largely of a to the responsibility of the Gladstone Port machinery nature in the sense that it rectifies Authority to pay rates on its significant land some problems that have recently arisen in the holding. The concern of the council that has administration of the Valuation of Land Act been raised on a number of occasions is that and the Land Titles Act. I understand that the the port authority, as a statutory authority, is issues that give rise to this legislation were of exempt from paying rates. The council feels concern to the previous Government. I have that it is significantly disadvantaged because taken up these matters and progressed them the payment of rates is not a responsibility of further. the port authority. As the honourable member mentioned, The other issue I raise with the Minister one matter in particular has come to a head in relates to the general process of reviewing only the last week or so, and that is the reason unimproved capital value on properties in for the Government seeking the Opposition's particular residential areas. I have related one support in bringing this matter before the example to the Minister. A modest family House for deliberation prior to the full period for home was bought in a former housing which Bills normally lie on the table of the commission area. When the house became House. I am grateful to the Opposition for its eligible for its yearly revaluation, there were no assistance in this regard. sales of comparable homes in the near vicinity, An appeal judgment handed down last so the officer from Rockhampton revalued and week found that the Registrar of Titles was significantly increased the value of that unable to reject a plan of survey—that property on the basis of imported sales. Of the particular case related to a resurvey plan—in two importations, one was from a new housing circumstances where the survey plan would subdivision down the road at Emmadale Park have been in breach of other legislation. The and the other was from a mid-level court found in upholding the decision of the development along J. Hickey Avenue, neither Supreme Court that the registrar can have of which was comparable to the type of home regard to only the Land Titles Act in registering being revalued. plans of survey and, as such, was unable to That is one example, but this problem is reject a survey which, quite frankly, ought to be replicated across the system. When the rejected on other grounds. officers come to defend their revaluations of We are grateful for the Opposition's unimproved capital value, they say, "We support for this legislation. We need to process revalue on the basis of sales." When the this promptly so that there will be no further home owner can justifiably say, "There were problems in relation to the registration of plans. no sales in our vicinity", the officer then says, It also aids in reducing red tape in respect of "Where there are no sales, to retain relativity developments for the valuation of rates and we import like sales." It lacks logic and land tax and avoids the need for developers to rationality. apply specifically for an exemption when those That has been the process adopted by exemptions can operate automatically. I officers in the department—at least in the commend the Bill to the House. regions—for the past few years. As I said to Motion agreed to. the Minister, trying to get some logic from those officers is like having a lobotomy without any local anaesthetic. It is very difficult. It is Committee frustrating talking to them, because one Hon. R. J. WELFORD (Everton—ALP) cannot win. They increase unimproved capital (Minister for Environment and Heritage and values on the basis of sales; but if there are Minister for Natural Resources) in charge of the none in the vicinity, they import a sale and use Bill. that. One cannot win. It may be a static market, but they will import a sale from an area Clauses 1 and 2, as read, agreed to. that could be some distance away—another 19 Nov 1998 Valuation of Land and Other Legislation Amendment Bill 3395 locality. It is fair enough to take out of the Mr WELFORD: Chicken entrails, tea- system forced sales or otherwise inflated sales; leaves or whatever one likes! I suppose that they have criteria for that. But if there are no there are anomalies that arise from time to general sales in the vicinity, the unimproved time which give us cause to believe that there capital value should remain static. I am sure is no rhyme or reason for some of the that this is not just a frustration on my part, but valuations that are being made. one felt by many members when it comes to One of the possible ways of addressing the release of the increases in unimproved this is to look at a different form of valuation value and the consequent rating impacts. system. This idea has been floated from time Mr WELFORD: I have previously to time, but it is not something that discussed these matters with the member for Governments are keen to rush into when we Gladstone. I certainly believe that her concerns have a system that basically has operated by are genuinely held and that they are and large with general acceptance for many, legitimate. In relation to the rating of port many years—subject to these exceptions that, authorities generally, under the Local as members of Parliament, obviously only we Government Act port authorities are exempt encounter. The alternative possible way of from rates. This has been the state of play for valuing land is to use a site value. A site value many, many years. This legislation brings into roughly means that one takes account of the line the valuation of port authority land—lands full value of the land and its improvements but owned by Government owned corporations— then deducts some notional assessment of with the valuation process that applies to all the value of the improvements. It is not clear other land, in other words, unimproved capital to me whether that system would be any fairer value. or any more accurate or any more likely to gain acceptance in the community than the one we Prior to this, valuations of port authority have. That is the reason for my obvious land were made on the basis of the caution about launching into any support for it. unimproved capital value plus certain improvements as defined in the Valuation of It is accepted that there are problems in Land Act. These amendments that members specific locations. We have them in Brisbane. are passing today bring port authority lands We have them in the instance that the under the same valuation system as all other member for Gladstone mentioned. They lands. In effect, that could mean some especially arise in areas where all the land has reduction in the posted valuation of port now been developed, there are houses or authority lands. I know that there are buildings or other forms of improvements on discussions between local governments, and the land, and there are no sales of vacant land submissions have been made by local which can provide ready comparisons for the governments from time to time—I know that valuation of land in that district. I am currently they are being made to our Government, and I working with the valuation section of my suspect that they have been made to previous department to look at ways in which we can Governments—seeking to be able to levy rates manage that in circumstances where we do against port authorities. That is something that not give rise to unrealistic or, on the face of it, I have no doubt the LGAQ and the unacceptable and clearly inaccurate—by any responsible Minister for Local Government will reasonable measure—valuations that are just have to consider. so out of the ordinary that they cannot possibly be supported. In relation to the issue of how valuations are made, yes, it is a difficult problem, and it Unfortunately, the difficulty is that, if we go becomes increasingly difficult, especially in to court on one of these matters, the court urban areas, when there are no vacant land says that we have to use sales in the region. sales with which to make appropriate The court says that the only legitimate comparisons. We have exactly the same sort evidence to which one can have regard are of problem in Brisbane. I encountered an other sales of vacant land. That is why the enormously difficult problem in the Coorparoo valuers go to areas that are in neighbouring district only recently when valuations were estates—or neighbouring districts sometimes— made. Valuations in the Coorparoo district to try to find valuations which they can use as increased with gross disparity compared with comparisons. But as all members would know, surrounding districts. I believe that it is fair to that belies commonsense, because those say—with all due respect to the professional neighbouring areas could be vastly different in valuers—that a lot of this seems to be more art their character and in their obvious valuation than science. characteristics from the one where the valuation is needed. This is a problem. I Mr Springborg interjected. acknowledge that problem, and I am working 3396 Dairy Industry Amendment Bill 19 Nov 1998 with my department to see if we cannot have The continued operation of a viable and some sort of better system to address those successful dairy industry in Queensland is individual anomalies. absolutely paramount for maintaining Clause 3, as read, agreed to. prosperous rural communities and towns and stemming further contraction of industry and Clauses 4 to 17 and Schedule, as read, people to the coast. Those communities know agreed to. that the dairy industry is the hand that feeds Bill reported, without amendment. them. They have come out in strong support of the dairy industry, especially during this legislative review. Third Reading Some of the ignorance that exists in Bill, on motion of Mr Welford, by leave, relation to the dairy industry is very interesting. read a third time. Many schoolchildren were taken around the grounds of the Exhibition. This year, one of the former presidents of the UGA, Bill Bonthrone, DAIRY INDUSTRY AMENDMENT BILL was acting in his capacity to impart his knowledge to the kids about what rural Second Reading industries, particularly the dairy industry, were Resumed from 10 November (see all about. One teacher had informed the kids p. 2856). that we did not need dairy farmers in Hon. T. R. COOPER (Crows Nest—NPA) Queensland or Australia, because it would be (11.48 a.m.): The coalition supports the Bill cheaper to import dairy products from before the House. In fact, we regard it as one overseas. That is what some teachers are teaching our kids. We have not forgotten that. of the most important pieces of legislation to We believe that, if we are to stick up for own come before the House for some time. It will farmers, it is vital to educate our kids and let set the scene for the operation of the Queensland dairy industry for the next five them know where milk comes from. Some of years. them think that, like Coca-Cola, it is made in a factory and that it comes out of a carton. We The dairy industry is one of the State's need to continue that education program. The great industries. It has made an enormous Ekka is a good place to do that. Some of the impact on and contribution to the Queensland dairy farmer groups at the Homebush show in economy—in excess of $300m at the farm New South Wales have a model dairy. gate and $750m in wholesale value every Similarly, they will do that at the Ekka here to year. One of the major reasons why the dairy educate young people who do not have a industry is so important to Queensland is that it clue. It is in our hands to teach them. I wanted is one of our most decentralised industries, to record that teacher's comment, because it with dairy farmers operating the length of the certainly sent shock waves throughout the State from the Atherton Tableland in the north industry. In our education system, some to central Queensland, the Burnett, the Darling teachers—certainly not all; only one or two of Downs, the Lockyer and Fassifern Valleys, and the misguided ones—believe that we can do in the south-east. without our own farmers and use farmers from Similarly, there has been some other countries. rationalisation of processing facilities. Mr Palaszczuk interjected. Processors still operate plants in areas such as Mr COOPER: Yes, I think we are all aware the tablelands, Monto in central Queensland, of the need to ensure that we teach young Toowoomba, the Gold Coast and Brisbane. In people and do not fill their heads with untruths many of these areas the dairy industry or distortions. underpins the entire regional economy, providing jobs, a local cash flow, and Mr Palaszczuk: More like the teachers. supporting a vast array of service industries, Mr COOPER: The teachers are the ones such as feed mills, machinery dealers, we need to reach if they are teaching such supermarkets and banks. Without the dairy things, which that teacher was. I hope that industry, those communities would most message can reach teachers. I would much certainly suffer, and many could well wither prefer supporting our own dairy farmers than and die. All members of this Parliament should dairy farmers outside the country. Those dairy agree that there has been too much farmers have made a massive contribution contraction of industry and people to the over the years and will continue to do so. The coastal areas with the consequent closing legislation that we are putting through now—I down of regional and rural areas. hope with the full support of the entire 19 Nov 1998 Dairy Industry Amendment Bill 3397

House—will set the scene to maintain a dairy In recent times, the Queensland dairy industry in this State for many years to come. industry has been subjected to intense scrutiny However, that will require a lot of concentration and mounting market pressures. That scrutiny and focused effort over the next few years. has stemmed from a requirement to review the Dairy Industry Act under the National Although the number of dairy farmers in Competition Policy Agreement to which Queensland has declined from some 21,000 Queensland is a signatory with the Federal in 1960 to some 1,650 in 1998, the dairy Government. In addition, the industry has industry is still one of the most successful been under increasing pressure as a result of primary industries. For years, the dairy industry the imminent deregulation of processing, has remained a stable and consistent distribution and retailing sectors of the industry contributor to the way of life of thousands of on 1 January 1999. That program of post farm Queenslanders, both directly and indirectly, gate deregulation provided for in the current and to the prosperity of our State. In fact, its Dairy Industry Act 1993 introduced by the stability and consistent performance have Goss Labor Government has seen the been the envy of many of our other primary predators start to line up. From 1 January, industries. The industry continues to set a there will no longer be a regulated pricing shining example with its growing success on system or distribution network in the dairy the export market and continued strong industry. The industry will be subject totally to performance on the domestic market. Much of the market and the vagaries that go with it. the dairy industry's success can be contributed Other States have already gone down to its ongoing efforts to improve its ability to that path, with mixed and sometimes alarming provide Australian and foreign consumers with results. The much-lauded benefit of quality and wholesome milk and dairy deregulation, namely the delivery of a cheaper products. Much of that success can also be product to consumers, in many instances has attributed to the leadership of the industry over failed to materialise. For example, Victoria the past years. undertook post farm gate deregulation some I pay tribute to people such as Pat years ago, with the net result being that Rowley, Ivan Vonhoff and Lex Buchanan for Victorians now pay $1.35 to $1.40 for a litre of their considerable efforts over the years. Much milk. Under the current regulated of that success can be attributed to the stable arrangements in this State, Queenslanders legislative system under which the dairy pay from $1.21 to $1.25 per litre. That is a 15c system has operated. The dairy industry is a difference per litre. I know two groups that shining example to other primary industries to have not benefited in Victoria under the much- plan ahead. It has been planning ahead since touted National Competition Policy: the before the sixties. The numbers have reduced consumers, who now pay 15c per litre more, considerably from the vast numbers in the and the farmers, who receive less. I will leave industry when, in nearly every nook and cranny members to guess who are the beneficiaries. of the State, people were involved in dairying. We are heading down that path in How they did that, I will never know; but they Queensland. It is a path of madness, but we did. If other industries planned in such a have to go down it under the National visionary way as those farmers in the dairy Competition Policy arrangements. We should industry did, many of them would not be in the ensure that people who believe in those difficulties they are today. theories that are dreamt up are mindful of that situation. Those economic theories have not The stable legislative system has allowed been tested. When they are tested, they blow for farmers and others to invest in their up in our faces. That is the situation we are properties, their business and their industry facing in this State now. with confidence. It has allowed the industry to In most cases, the net result of post farm respond to the demands of the market without gate deregulation has been to expose the being unduly subject to its vagaries or at the industry to the tremendous market power of mercy of the market power of major the big three retailers and the big processors companies or multinationals. It has allowed for who have had an unfettered ability to boost the growth of towns and the creation of jobs their margins at the expense of others in the throughout regional and rural Queensland. industry and the consumers. In Queensland, That system has centred principally around the we will now be put through the same hoops as maintenance of the farm gate price, a system the southern States have been put through. It of supply management and a regulated is only now that the dairy industry and the distribution and retailing sector that was public have started to realise the full provided for in the Dairy Industry Act 1993. implications of past decisions. However, the 3398 Dairy Industry Amendment Bill 19 Nov 1998 industry has known these changes were took too long. Yes, inevitably, that consultation coming since the Dairy Industry Act was did take time. Consultation always does if it is passed in 1993. The industry has played a fair dinkum consultation. That consultation was major role in guiding the changes and absolutely vital to the final outcome, given that undertook the distribution restructuring the dairy industry underpins so many jobs and scheme, worth some $90m. Queensland is the so many communities throughout the State. last State to undertake post farm gate So I am certain that the time that consultation deregulation. Those in the processing and took was time more than well spent. distribution sectors have restructured their businesses accordingly or chosen to leave the I would like to place on record the industry. From 1 January, when Queensland Opposition's appreciation for the committee's goes down this path, this Dairy Industry even-handed, consultative approach. I pay Amendment Bill will play a crucial role in the tribute to the committee for the comprehensive management of that transition and the and inclusive manner in which it conducted ongoing stability of the dairy industry. that review. That review found that there was overwhelming support by the industry and the The National/Liberal coalition recognises community to continue a legislative system for the importance of the dairy industry to a period of five years. That view was reinforced Queensland and has wholeheartedly and by the findings of the public benefit test. actively supported the successful development of the industry. After the gutting of regional Although that review was forced to take Queensland and the Department of Primary place by the requirements of the National Industries by the Goss Labor Government, the Competition Policy, no-one should be under Borbidge Government set about pumping the illusion that the NCP alone is influencing services back into regional Queensland and the changes within the dairy industry. The restoring the DPI. As one of the most Asian financial crisis, the sheer size of the significant primary industries, the dairy industry Victorian dairy industry, the market clout of the was one of the biggest beneficiaries of our major processors and the retailers, and the work in Government. The Borbidge distorted nature of world markets in which our Government worked in close partnership with dairy exports compete are all placing the dairy industry, particularly in the enormous pressure on the dairy industry. So preparation of the industry for the changes although the legislative review had to be soon to occur as a result of post farm gate undertaken, the National/Liberal coalition did deregulation and also for the changes not need a review to warn us of the dangers of happening in the marketplace independently blindly throwing open the doors of deregulation of that process. in the face of these pressures. This close working relationship has helped The former Premier, Rob Borbidge, made pave the way for the introduction of the Dairy a commitment to the Queensland dairy Industry Bill 1998. This Bill emanated from the industry that the coalition would not jeopardise work of the coalition Government, and I am the future of the industry, those who work in it pleased to see that the Beattie Labor and those communities that depend on it. On Government has continued to pursue the 1 June of this year, the former Premier and coalition's policy through its introduction. Unlike member for Surfers Paradise renewed the other States and consistent with our policy of coalition's commitment to protect the working with industry, the Borbidge Queensland dairy industry from deregulation. Government believed that it was essential for That commitment still stands and is the dairy industry to be involved in the review entrenched in National Party policy. Despite of its own operation and the preparation of repeated calls for a similar policy commitment new legislation under which it was to operate. from the Labor Party, it was not until the The Queensland Dairy Industry presentation of this legislation that dairy Legislation Review Committee, which had farmers knew where they stood with the industry representation and was chaired Beattie Government. That shows the capably by Mr Sam Doumany, was charged difference between the Opposition and the with the responsibility of reviewing the industry Government: the coalition is prepared to draw under the requirements of the National a line in the sand and defend Queensland; Competition Policy. One of the committee's Labor has waited on the recommendations of most important riding instructions was to carry a review before it has adopted its position. The out widespread public consultation to ensure industry should feel relieved that that that anyone with an interest or a stake in the recommendation is based on the retention of industry had the opportunity to have their say. the farm gate price and supply management There has been some criticism that that review system. 19 Nov 1998 Dairy Industry Amendment Bill 3399

Mr Palaszczuk: It took us three months. Unfortunately, the rushing of this Bill through Mr COOPER: Yes, but the coalition had Parliament in the light of the 31 December done all the lead-up work. We can fight deadline has not allowed for this complex backwards and forwards. In his second-reading issue to be explored fully by the industry or the speech, the Minister made various comments. Parliament. However, he missed the point that the industry The Opposition also has reservations is not offered any hardline reassurance that about the legislation's failure to address the Beattie Government will use every means adequately the issue of compositional available to defend Queensland's interests. I payment for milk. The growth issue and the will refer to that a little bit later on. compositional payment issue, which is the The basis of this Bill is to provide for the basic thrust of this legislation, will not please setting of a minimum price, or what has been everyone, but they will not go away. I have commonly known as the farm gate price, to be had representations from the smaller players in paid for milk purchased from producers for the industry who have said, "We want a bigger processing as market milk. The Bill also cut of the cake" and I have had provides for the extension of the supply representations from other players, as has the management arrangements applying in south- Minister, saying what they want. I think that the east Queensland and to the entire State's bottom line is to wait and see what growth dairying industry. Both of those provisions are there is after 1 January. If there is no growth, essential for the dairy industry to manage the there is no argument; instead it will be a changes confronting it and to have the broad question of who gets less. Those are the sorts support of the dairy industry. Although a few of things that we can only watch closely all the people do not support one or both of these way through. provisions, the fact remains that, for the The second issue is the compositional continued viability of Queensland's dairy payment. Currently, there are a few industry, they must be maintained. I arrangements in place for the purchase of milk understand and acknowledge those views, but from the farmer based on composition or as legislators we must consider the overall quality. Some argue that this is a commercial good of the industry. matter between farmers and processors while others argue that such a system requires The Opposition does share a number of legislative support. Earlier this year, the the reservations of some in the industry Borbidge Government had asked the regarding two subsidiary issues which, while Queensland Dairy Authority to address this not crucial to the broad thrust of this legislation to retain the farm gate price and a supply matter. Shortly after the change of management system, are certainly issues that Government, the QDA reported back with a warrant addressing. Under this Bill, the method proposed system that did not meet our of allocation of market milk growth has requirements. The QDA was asked to try changed from the current arrangements. At again, and I await with interest an indication present, market milk growth is allocated on a from the Beattie Government as to what policy basis that allows smaller entitlement holders to it will adopt on that issue. gain a greater relative share of any growth. Mr Palaszczuk: We will get it right this Although growth levels have not been time. sufficient to significantly alter farm incomes to Mr COOPER: We will go as close as we date and may well be less significant from 1 can. Again, it is a complex issue and one January next year with the entrance of new which the industry is the best placed to resolve processors, there is an important principle before it reaches this Parliament. That is the associated with the current system, and that is point that I make. As I say, we have had that the smaller entitlement holders, who tend representations from various people within the to be the young farmers and the new entrants, industry, and I will refer to those shortly. gain a relative advantage, albeit small, over The catch-up football that is being played the larger established dairy farmers. with this legislation has denied the opportunity Under this Bill, growth will simply be for this issue to be resolved to the point where allocated on the basis of an individual's as late as Monday the Opposition received entitlement size. In other words, growth proposed amendments to the Bill from the allocation will be proportionately tied to members of the Sunshine Coast Jersey Cattle entitlement size. The argument in favour of the Club. I have spoken to them and I have had to new system is based on equity. In that sense, say to them that, quite obviously, at this late it is fair enough. However, it is a change in stage it is very difficult for this Parliament to principle from the current system. assess fully the implications of any such 3400 Dairy Industry Amendment Bill 19 Nov 1998 changes to this legislation, particularly when the industry. It is encouraging to know that there is a level of dissent from the position 1,000 of Queensland's 1,650 dairy farmers adopted by the Queensland Dairyfarmers' belong to the Dairy Farmers group. The group Organisation. certainly has the dairy farmers' interests at Earlier, I spoke of the experience in other heart, and why would it not, with such a vast States where deregulation of the processing, membership. The attitude of those two men distribution and retailing sectors of the industry impressed me. They have taken a progressive has not benefited the consumer or the and realistic approach to the challenges that industry. That experience has shown that the lie ahead, which indicates that the industry is in net effect of post farm gate deregulation has good hands. We will be very comfortable simply been to place many in the industry at working with those people and anyone else the mercy of the big processing companies who has the interests of the dairy farmer at and the big three retailers. Those retailers now heart. hold an extremely strong position in the I note that in his second-reading speech, market, having some 80% of the market the Minister claimed that the minority Beattie share. Primary producers and consumer Government is acting swiftly and responsibly groups alike hold valid concerns regarding the on the dairy industry, whereas progress had use of this market power. Earlier this year in been stalled by the previous Government. I will New South Wales, retailers proved that they not let those sorts of things go unanswered, will use their massive buying power to push because they are wrong. I know the Minister down the farmers' milk price, and that was with did not really mean that. Someone just stuck it the relative security of a regulated farm gate in front of him, and they should not have done price. One could imagine what the retailers that. I know who it was; it was a silly fellow. It is would do if that protection was removed. breathtaking in its hypocrisy. The allegation that the coalition Government stalled progress In recognition of those concerns, the on this Bill is nothing but a baseless slur. It is a Federal parliamentary wing of the National ridiculous attempt to cover the introduction of Party has succeeded in pushing for a review of this Bill at five minutes to midnight when the the market powers. I welcome that decision current Act's deadline of 31 December is fast and urge the Queensland Government to approaching. have input into that inquiry. The National/Liberal coalition will not stand by and The coalition and many in the industry allow the Queensland dairy industry to be question the so-called swiftness of this sacrificed for the sake of implementing some Government's progress in handling this matter. dubious economic theory. Both the retention It has been so swift that a draft of the Bill has of the minimum market milk price and the not been released for consultation and there extension of a supply management system has been very limited opportunity for industry, are key planks in our policy, and the coalition Government or the Opposition to fully assess will support these provisions absolutely. that the Bill has been rigorously drafted. So swift has been the Government's progress that These measures are consistent with those the Minister has only introduced the Bill to of New South Wales, where that Government Parliament in this final sitting. The Bill has not has taken a similar decision to retain such had time to lie on the table for the requisite 14 provisions for a five-year period. They are also days. There was certainly no stalling as far as consistent with a growing awareness among we were concerned. the dairy processors in this State that the farmers will be the big losers if the industry is Mr Mickel interjected. deregulated totally. I draw the attention of Mr COOPER: There was none at all. I members to last week's announcement by look forward to the speech of the member for Australia's largest dairy company, Dairy Logan. Farmers, that it will back a major effort to fend Mr Mickel interjected. off deregulation of the national farm gate milk market by offering both financial and Mr COOPER: That is right; National Foods organisational support to dairy farmers in is based in his electorate. I was wondering how Queensland, New South Wales and South many dairy farmers were down there, and I did Australia. not think that there were too many. I was wondering when the member got up this Last night, the member for Warwick and I morning and how many cows he milked. met with the Chairman of Dairy Farmers, Ian However, I will not pre-empt what the member Langdon, and board member Jeff Ballon from will say, because he makes a very good Maclagan in my electorate. Both are very sane contribution to this place. I hope that he does and sensible people who are switched on to not make me look bad when I say that, 19 Nov 1998 Dairy Industry Amendment Bill 3401 because generally he does make a very good the Queensland dairy industry. It recognises contribution to this place. We will see if he can that the population growth in Queensland will get that wrong. There was no stalling by the mean growth in the market milk sector in coalition. It is important that we get on with the particular. National Foods and I have job of ensuring that we all do the right thing by confidence that the industry will grow as a the dairy farmers. Our commitment to the result of this legislation. Members of the One issue of the farm gate price and supply Nation Party raised concerns about where the management is set in concrete and that is the milk would come from. I am assured that it will way that it will stay. come from Queensland. Over time, this While this Bill delivers on coalition policy to industry will create 120 jobs in Logan City. That retain the two items that I have just will take time, but ultimately I look forward to mentioned, on its own it does not go far the plant servicing not only the domestic enough to protect the interests of the dairy market but also the export sector. Both of industry or the State of Queensland. The those changes have occurred in anticipation of Minister must realise—as I am sure he a more deregulatory environment. I am a does—that the Government cannot afford to staunch supporter of Queensland's dairy rest on its laurels under the illusion that it has industry. I have every confidence in it and I delivered for the future of the dairy industry in want to see it grow. However, I want to see it this State. This legislation can only be a part of grow particularly in the area of exports. Jobs Queensland's response to the changes taking will be created as the result of an export place in the Australian dairy industry and in capability. world markets. The continuing and the I would be less than honest if I did not say increasing influence of the big three retailers, that there were aspects of the Bill on which I the massive Victorian dairy industry and the want some answers. I understand that the continuing concentration of ownership of dairy farm gate price will be a minimum price and it processing companies must be met head on. will be retained for five years. It will be The Queensland Government has a assessed by what is termed "next best responsibility to lead that charge. The coalition commercial options". There is a further does not subscribe to the theory that the suggestion in the Bill that an early review may Queensland dairy industry can only kowtow to be required if market forces compel a those pressures and must survive as best it shortening of the transition process. In other can. words, the Bill reflects my concerns about the It concerns me greatly that some, price support over the longer term. Why should including the Minister in his second-reading we support this minimum price at this point? I speech, have said that this legislation is only do not want to see dairy farmers at the mercy staving off the inevitable breakdown of the of the big supermarkets. Putting the farmers at Queensland dairy industry. The coalition does the mercy of just four major supermarkets is not accept that argument. We believe that the not my idea of competition. Nor do I believe dairy industry can and should remain a major that at the present time in Queensland there is contributor to the generation of jobs and a genuinely competitive processing sector, wealth in rural and regional Queensland. The which is the other reason that I will support the coalition will continue to fight for the best transition arrangements. If one is going to interests of the dairy industry, to ensure its have competition, one needs it not only in the continued and successful development as a retail sector but also in the processing sector. I viable and vibrant industry. I challenge every hope that further processing plants are person in this Chamber to do the same. The attracted to Queensland to give us that Opposition supports the Bill. competition. Mr MICKEL (Logan—ALP) (12.15 p.m.): The Minister is right to be vigilant. The This Bill flags the freeing up of Queensland's Opposition spokesman has just talked about dairy industries. A number of changes have the Victorian industry and the Asian crisis. occurred in anticipation of these amendments, However, he did not mention that the Russian mainly in the processing sector. For example, market is under pressure. With that market Parmalat's takeover of QUF gives Queensland under pressure, inevitably there will be a a firm with a proven export capability. Also, the pressure on the Victorian industry to look to very welcome decision by National Foods to domestic markets. I hope that, over the longer establish a processing plant at Crestmead in term, the Victorian industry keeps focused, as my electorate is a shot in the arm for it has done, on the export market rather than confidence in the local economy. National the domestic market. Foods established that plant in my area Over the years, in other industries, such because it has every confidence, as I do, in as eggs and bread, deregulation caused 3402 Dairy Industry Amendment Bill 19 Nov 1998 immediate price shifts. In both cases, those at Innesplain, south of Beaudesert. It is a industries adjusted quickly. As I said, I believe tremendous example of stock-fed dairying, Queensland can use more processors. I ask using modern technology for pasturing, milk the Minister to address two concerns that I operations, animal husbandry and value- have about licence applications. As I added fertiliser production. These farmers are understand the Bill, the Queensland Dairy looking forward to the day when they can Authority will have processors on its board and process their own milk in a niche market. they will be part of the price-setting Currently, their operation provides employment mechanism. They will also be part of a for nine local people in that factory. They are licensing system for other processors. The looking for a new processing plant. They tell difficulty I have with that is that we are asking me that, if it becomes operational—and they new processors to sit on a board alongside the are having a few hassles with the banks processors with which they will be in because it is an exciting proposal and banks competition. Who will open their books in that are traditionally financially conservative when it situation? We will have to be very careful of comes to agricultural industries, which is a bit that. of a shame—it will provide significant employment opportunities in the town of I note also that the QDA will look at things Beaudesert. I commend those farmers for such as quality assurance. One quality rolling up their sleeves and having a go. I hope scheme that it has not been able to wrestle with, as the Opposition spokesman said, is that all members can familiarise themselves composite payments. The current requirement with that operation, because I believe it is is that there will be 3% protein in market milk. showcase technology in modern dairy farming. We need to ensure that the Queensland It should not be surprising that I have industry continues to have quality products by highlighted a successful local dairy operation. I ensuring that that percentage is delivered. believe dairying has been the big success story in Australian agricultural exporting. The I wish to raise a question in relation to former Federal Minister, John Kerin, should be another aspect of the Bill. The Opposition commended for starting a process in the late spokesman mentioned the entitlements eighties to focus the industry internationally. I system. This Bill enlarges the entitlements have said to members on my side of the system throughout Queensland. The only House: concentrate on the dairy industry, hassle I have with the entitlements system is because it is one industry where there is this: over time it has kept younger farmers out complete value adding and a developing of the industry, because the industry gets too export capability that is earning significant expensive to buy into. I am also concerned dollars for Australia. about the New South Wales industry. My fear is that this will set up the Government for some For example, in 10 years it has grown sort of taxpayer-funded compensation. In from being a $200m exporter to being a $2 particular, I cite the general manager's column billion exporter this year. All honourable in a New South Wales report which stated that members should focus on this operation, "proposals for a compensation or adjustment because no other industry has had that level package for dairy farmers" may be taken to of success. As I said, it has a comprehensive the Government. I hope that this arrangement value-adding component. Bonlac Foods is does not leave the Queensland taxpayer open another success story. Currently, it exports to a liability to pay compensation. $450m worth of product to over 50 countries, mainly in South East Asia. Kraft Foods exports I also have difficulty with any attempts to processed cheese worth in excess of $100m lock up the distribution system by existing per year. Its major market is the Middle East. processors. There is evidence of an attempt to Tatura Milk exports cream cheese, milk powder do that. I have sighted one of the contracts and milk powder blends worth between $65m and believe that a group such as the ACCC and $90m per year mainly to Japan and should ensure that there is full competition Malaysia. Lactos exports high-value-added when it comes to the distribution system. soft cheeses worth $14m—mainly in bulk Certainly, one of the processing firms with Gouda cheese—to Japan. which I have had discussions has indicated The Australian dairy industry is now that it will have difficulties in coming to amongst the most cost efficient in the world, Queensland if the distribution system is locked and this Bill strengthens that process. up. Australia's membership of multilateral and Exciting things are happening locally in bilateral trade groups is essential to keep up the dairy industry. In particular, I commend to the process of gaining access for dairy all members a farming operation that I visited products. Contrary to the popular belief, 19 Nov 1998 Dairy Industry Amendment Bill 3403 through those bilateral and multilateral trade capability of the industry, Queensland will agreements we have made tremendous again gain its position as a national leader in inroads into overseas markets. Earlier this dairying. I know the industry will become year, Korea reduced tariffs on 182 dairy items, increasingly export oriented. As I have pointed which will give us better access. In July last out already, there are opportunities in Asia. year, negotiations in Hong Kong were This Bill gives the opportunity to focus outward. concluded to ease stringent health and It does give the industry transitional quarantine regulations, and that resulted in the arrangements, but it does so with an explicit first substantial quantity of milk being flown in warning. To that extent, the Bill flags things to daily from northern Queensland by Malanda the industry such as a five-year time frame. Milk. That is an outstanding achievement. I know that the Minister has engaged in Recently, the Philippines reduced tariffs on extensive consultation on this Bill. I want to milk and cream cheeses. Even though express my personal thanks to him and to his Malaysia is going through difficulties currently, officers who are seated over there today. I also it has also applied a zero tariff on liquid milk, want to express my personal thanks to the which is beyond its obligations under the people who have come and lobbied me about Uruguay Round. Australian liquid milk this Bill. They certainly have not had a win on exporters now supply 60% of that import every aspect of the Bill, but I must say that it market. was not through lack of trying. The 26 October 1998 edition of Business In conclusion, I want to draw the attention Asia highlights the ongoing possibilities for of the House to the comments of Rick Lacey, dairying. For example, in South Korea there is the chief executive officer of Bonlac Foods, ongoing market liberalisation and steady who said— increases in the per capita consumption of dairy products, which will drive demand for "The internationally-competitive imported product. Even though Thailand has sectors of the Australian dairy industry can some difficulties at the moment, insufficient win from deregulation. local supply is driving imported demand for ... dairy products for consumption in households. Deregulation is not coming in the In China there is an increased awareness of dairy industry, it's here now, driven by the health benefits of dairy products, and its government policy, international trade Government is encouraging increased liberalisation, and commercial business consumption. forces. Export markets do exist there, and over We live with change; it's part of our the past 10 years in a deregulated world. We can choose to adapt or deny it. environment the dairy industry has been doing It's in the national interest to have an the job of capturing its share. However, the industry that is efficient and internationally Queensland dairy industry has had a heavy competitive." focus on market milk production. That is the complete reverse of the position in the other I believe that the Queensland dairy industry States. It is true that in the thirties and forties has a great future. I believe it can enlarge itself Queensland had the largest dairy industry in and can become more export focused. When Australia. During those years, Queensland we get into that processing sector, the jobs will produced as much product as Victoria and come. I commend the Bill to the House. I New South Wales combined. Ironically, most thank the Minister for the time he has taken in of that production was in manufactured all the consultations in relation to this Bill. milk—cheese and butter—exported to the Mr SPRINGBORG (Warwick—NPA) United Kingdom. (12.30 p.m.): In rising to support the legislation before the House, I would like to commend the After World War II the Queensland dairy contribution of the honourable member for industry went into a decline as butter and cheese export markets collapsed, because the Crows Nest, Russell Cooper, who is the UK, which as I said was our largest export Opposition spokesman. I think that he delivered a very good contribution which market, entered the EC. From 1950 to 1970 outlined the concerns of the coalition and also the industry contracted, and that devastated the issues which have gone before us with many of the towns in the Wide Bay area regard to the dairy industry review and the particularly—something that any member who legislation that we have before the Parliament has visited the area would recognise. today. The member for Crows Nest outlined a It is hoped that, given the recent success number of concerns and issues that we will of Malanda in Hong Kong and the export continue to grapple with, and I am sure that 3404 Dairy Industry Amendment Bill 19 Nov 1998 they are issues that will concern other of the possibility of an unfriendly takeover. It members of this Parliament as well. I would looks like it is secure—at least for the medium also like to acknowledge the very good term. Of course, that will mean that particular contribution of the honourable member for factory has to keep abreast of the times and Logan. He outlined a number of the concerns provide the market with the product that it that I have which I want to pick up on a little bit wants, and it is doing that. That cheese- later in my speech this afternoon. manufacturing company employs excellent people. The history of the dairy industry for many parts of Queensland, particularly in my I think it is very important that we do electorate, has been an interesting one. We agree with the philosophy of the retention of have come from a situation 60 to 70 years ago the farm gate price and supply management. I when most people had a few cows. They think that is absolutely crucial. Earlier on in his might have had 20 or 30 cows. I know that my contribution, the member for Crows Nest parents say that they used to milk the cows outlined very articulately the concerns that do before they went to school. Obviously, the come to pass when an industry enters a dairy industry and the local butter factory were deregulated or partially deregulated extremely important to many of our environment. He outlined the situation in communities. With the onset of new Victoria, where I understand the dairy farmers transportation and new technology, which are getting something like 3c per litre less for changed the way that markets operate, a lot of their fresh milk and, at the end of the day, the those factories actually closed down and we consumers are paying something like 15c a saw a consolidation of the industry into more litre more. In New South Wales we have seen select areas. a similar situation emerge but, at the end of the day, the increase in the amount that the I drive around my electorate and I see consumer is paying is not as great as that in that there is virtually no trace of the original Victoria. factories. There is virtually no evidence whatsoever of human habitation. But the old- Mind you, there is a lot of pressure from timers tell us that only 30 or 40 years ago the supermarkets to actually push that up, there was a dairy factory in that area and 40 or because they want to be able to make the 50 people may have derived their living from it, same returns and the same margins as they as well as the many small dairy farmers who can on the other dairy products that they sell. I actually supplied that particular area. There can appreciate that. However, at the end of were numerous dairy factories. But now in my the day I am very much concerned about the electorate we have Dairyfields, of course, and I downward pressure that that then places on would like to commend that company for the the dairy farmers, because they are price wonderful job that it does. It employs a lot of takers; they are not price makers. In the people. It produces a wonderful range of the middle the processors try to catch up. As the cheeses—actually they produce Queensland supermarkets actually try to catch up with what champion cheeses such as their Warwick mild they believe is a decent margin, there is a cheddar cheese and vintage cheddar cheese, blowing out at the top in the price that the which is an excellent cheese. It has a great consumer pays, but there is also a downward range of brie as well. I am sure that many trend with regard to the price at the farmer's members in this room have actually consumed end. That is of great concern to me. those cheeses and have appreciated them. That is one of the issues on which I very much agree with the member for Crows Nest. Mr Cooper interjected. We go down the road of these types of Mr SPRINGBORG: A whole range of policies and we promise all sorts of great other products are produced. I think that things to our consumers, but often the company has its other operation in the consumers pay more and the producers get electorate of the member for Southport. It less, and the middleman gets somewhat more processes fresh milk, flavoured milks and a as well. I am not sure how we overcome that range of other things as well. issue completely; a lot of other issues are beyond the control of the Parliament. We have The industry and the processing in my worldwide influences, market forces, National area are absolutely outstanding. I know that Competition Policy and all of those things there is concern from time to time about the which do cause us some concern. future of that factory. I know that only a short time ago the local dairy farmers and the local Mrs Lavarch interjected. people who were employed in the factory were Mr SPRINGBORG: Yes, there is a whole very, very concerned about its future because range of issues. 19 Nov 1998 Dairy Industry Amendment Bill 3405

We then have to make sure that we of concern there, of course, is the allocation of legislate responsibly for the outcome of those growth. I have always believed that we should issues, whether it is our national competition actively discriminate in favour of those people review or whether we try to do what we can to coming into the industry to try to get them on a make sure that our farmers are very much able footing so that they are able to maintain their and capable of coming to grips with the issues viability. It is not through lack of performance— that are brought about by world trade forces. it is not through the lack of high-quality milk We know that the dairy industry has adapted that they are producing—it is because of the over a long period of time, has continued to nature of the costs and the nature of the adapt and has gone through a great period of industry that they find it very, very difficult. change. No doubt, that change will continue I think we need to maintain a watching not only for the dairy industry, but for a range brief with regard to the allocation of growth, of other primary industries as well. because it is a very important issue. I note that I would like to indicate that the dairy the legislation makes provision for that industry is an extremely important industry in allocation to be made on a percentage basis. my electorate not only for the people who are That is of some concern to me. Also, it looks employed directly in actually supplying the milk as though we might not have a growth and processing it, but also for those people situation; things might go the other way. That involved in growing the fodder crops—the needs to be considered also. silage—those people involved in growing barley and a range of other grain crops to We need to continue to take into make sure that the cows have an adequate consideration situations such as that of Gerard amount of protein. A lot of people are and Linda Hemmings. They are great young employed in that area and are very interested dairy producers who have come into the dairy to see the ultimate outcome of deregulation. industry and can stand on their own two feet. We have to do what we can to get them to the I notice that the honourable member for point where they can continue in the industry. Logan made a good contribution and went beyond his eight minutes, so I might take a There are a lot of interesting challenges little while longer. Very quickly, I would like to ahead of the dairy industry. I know that all address the issue of entitlement, which the members of this Parliament will continue to be honourable member for Logan mentioned. I watchful, particularly those who have in their think he raised a good point. The way that the electorates a number of dairy producers and entitlement system is set up provides a very people who rely upon the industry for their difficult situation for new producers that want to jobs. Also of concern to us is what may come into the industry, and that is of particular happen in five years' time. That is the next concern. challenge for us. I think the important thing is that we have agreed with the principle. We A person in my electorate has been very have agreed with the farm gate price and active in this area and I know that the Minister supply management philosophy and we has actually met with him. Gerard Hemmings should not discount the continuance of that at and his wife, Linda, came into the industry with some future time. basically no entitlement. They came in, built up their own herd, leased a property and went Mrs LAVARCH (Kurwongbah—ALP) through the process of buying a property. (12.41 p.m.): I rise to speak to the Dairy However, we all know that, with the disparity Industry Amendment Bill as it affects my between the prices of market milk and electorate both directly and indirectly. A direct manufacturing milk, it can be very, very interest is held by the dairy farmers in the difficult—considering feed costs, interest and Dayboro region and an indirect interest is held redemption, and all those sorts of things—for by the tens of thousands of consumers of milk people to successfully break into the industry. and milk products in the seat of Even though they are innovative, new people Kurwongbah—and, no doubt, throughout in the industry and would do very well if they Queensland. entered on the same terms as the people In September I was pleased to be able to already in the industry, it is extremely difficult facilitate a meeting between the for them to be able to get a foothold. representatives of the Samford and Dayboro I do not have the answer to that and I dairy farmers and the Primary Industries know that the Minister has grappled with this Minister to discuss the future of the dairy issue. During my many discussions with the industry. I express my appreciation to Greg honourable member for Crows Nest, he has and Jenny Easlea of Laceys Creek for hosting also reflected on this issue. The other matter the meeting at their property. 3406 Dairy Industry Amendment Bill 19 Nov 1998

The Samford and Dayboro dairy farmers that demand in Asia for Australian dairy have applauded the Government's exports is likely to be dampened, even though commitment to maintain the farm gate price the weak Australian dollar will be of some into the next millennium. Branch President Joe assistance to exporters. This is expected to Bradley regards the move as good news for exert considerable pressure on the export- producers and consumers in the long term. He oriented Victorian industry to enter fresh milk is, however, concerned that supermarkets markets in other States, particularly following would dominate price setting, forcing already the termination of the domestic market support struggling farmers, wholesalers, distributors scheme from 30 June 2000. Further, and consumers to get less for their toil. Of Australian dairy exports compete in a world course, even though this Bill gives the market distorted by export subsidies and potential for a further five years of guaranteed import restrictions. In other words, what may income to dairy farmers, it is not a case of have started as a requirement of the National them being able to rest on their laurels. Competition Policy process has been In the second-reading debate of the 1993 overtaken by outside market forces. Dairy Industry Bill—the Bill we are considering Of course, the dairy industry has today seeks to amend the resulting Act—the undergone numerous changes since its former member for Bundaberg referred to a inception as a result of market forces and new statement made by Pat Rowley, the then technologies. In the Dayboro area, industry president of the Queensland Dairyfarmers rationalisation is evidenced by the fact that in Organisation. That statement is as relevant 1965 there were 105 farms producing 18,000 today as it was then. He said— litres of milk per day whereas today one-third "There needs to be a lot of quiet, of the number of farms are producing three steady change in the industry before times the amount of milk produced in 1965. restrictions on milk marketing and The Dayboro area is very close to distribution are completely removed in Brisbane. Back in the sixties, one of the 1998. reasons given for the demise of so many It is better for the whole industry to farms in the shire was pressure by the slowly release the handbrake from now on increased population for land for housing. rather than relying on the Big Bang Today there is pressure for rural residential theory, leaving the industry to suddenly areas and the farms in the Dayboro area are very attractive to young Brisbane professionals react in 1998." wanting to live the quiet rural life. This must be Five years is not a great amount of time, and a concern to consumers as well, as more and all indications today are that the handbrake will more of our fertile farm land is being broken up have to be taken off at least by the end of that into housing and is no longer producing period. It may be sooner rather than later, but anything. I believe that the Dayboro farms are it is imperative that the industry remain very productive. focused, vigilant and responsive to market I join with the member for Logan in saying forces. that there is exciting news for the dairy It was interesting to read the contributions industry. Opposition members speak very to that second-reading debate of 1993 and defensively about new markets and about the see the predictions made for 1998. Here we competition policy, but for the dairy industry it are in 1998 extending the sunset clause for is not all doom and gloom. There are exciting another five years. I wonder whether we will be times ahead. I look forward to working with the here in the year 2003 looking back on what we dairy farmers in my area. I look forward to are now saying and I wonder whether what we working with the Primary Industries Minister believe and see today will be the reality in and industry bodies to secure an advanced 2003. market share in this vital industry. I think that The fact that the industry has to remain this industry is of great benefit to Queensland focused, vigilant and responsive to market and has a lot to offer our economy. forces was plainly spelt out in the Queensland Mr ELLIOTT (Cunningham—NPA) dairy legislation review, and it is worth (12.47 p.m.): I am against deregulation of the repeating. The review has been conducted dairy industry as a result of the experience that against the backdrop of challenging market Victoria has had. The retail chains have made conditions, both domestically and overseas. greater profit, the consumer is paying more for The full impact of the Asian economic crisis on the product, and what has happened to the the Australian dairy industry is not yet farmers? As usual, they have been screwed apparent. In this regard, the committee noted down. Unfortunately, that is the way it goes. 19 Nov 1998 Dairy Industry Amendment Bill 3407

I support the farm gate price. I think we exists out there. However, we must ensure that have to ensure that the consumer gets a the dairy industry remains viable. After all, it is quality product at a realistic and reasonable one of the bright spots out there. Quite frankly, price, and I think that some of the provisions there are not too many primary industries in contained in this Bill will assist with that. I think which people would want their sons to be we should be looking at a time frame of five involved. I would be happy for my son to be years to ensure some semblance of order in involved in the dairy industry, because I the industry. Quite frankly, the concept of a believe that it has a future. It is probably one level playing field has been proven to be an of the few industries that does have a future. absolute nonsense. Apart from the cotton industry and a couple of Mr Baumann: They change ends at half- others, it is one of the few industries that look time. any good. It certainly does not look much good to me to be growing grain—and that is Mr ELLIOTT: That is right. Some of these what I do. I grow cheap grain so that the people are very good at changing ends at half- member for Southport can buy wonderfully time. cheap grain and make a great profit out of Mr Veivers: The trouble is, we are in the milk. middle. Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER (Mr Mickel): Mr ELLIOTT: That is right. People such as Order! Does the member for Southport want my colleague the member for Southport and protection from the Chair? others in his area and plenty of dairy farmers in Mr Veivers interjected. my area are the meat in the sandwich. Quite frankly, I think we have to learn to be a bit Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: Order! The more practical and pragmatic. member for Cunningham will restrain himself. I am interested to see a continued Mr ELLIOTT: There are lessons to be Queensland industry. For years I went to QDO learnt from other areas. I refer particularly to conferences and tried to encourage the the Victorian experience. Jeff Kennett has representatives not to do away with the vendor many good qualities. He gets things done. I system. They were keen to work in with the am a supporter of his in many ways. However, chain stores and they said, "That's where it's at he has caught the deregulation bug. Although now—the two-litre sales in the chain stores." I deregulation might work in some instances, it used to say to them, "The minute you get rid has not worked in the dairy industry. All that of your vendor system, you will be at the mercy Jeff Kennett has done is shoot his dairy of Coles, Woolworths, Franklins and those farmers in the foot. We can learn from the people, and they will screw you down on lessons of history. price." That is exactly what has happened. We I will not delay the House any longer, paid out all those vendors. We compensated because I know that other members want to them. This is exactly what happened in speak to this Bill. I support the Bill. However, I Victoria. If we are not careful, we will allow the have reservations, because I do not believe chain stores to dictate the terms to us. We that we are looking down the track far enough. have to ensure that the industry remains Five years is great, but we should be looking regulated enough to ensure that our dairy even further ahead. farmers are not disadvantaged and absolutely Mr MUSGROVE (Springwood—ALP) abused by the chain stores. Quite frankly, all (12.52 p.m.): I rise to support the passage of the chain stores are interested in is one thing: the Dairy Industry Amendment Bill. In common profit for their shareholders. They do not give a with the member for Kurwongbah, I had a very damn about the dairy farmers, the feedlotters substantial dairy industry in my electorate or anybody else. some time ago before the pressures of This same sort of situation could also urbanisation resumed many of those apply in the beef industry. Chain stores are properties. Indeed, members may not be selectively taking beef from individuals and aware that the electorate of Springwood is then playing them off one against the other to actually named after a 674-hectare dairy farm try to screw down the price. The same dramas named Springwood that existed in the area are occurring in the pork industry. Members some 30 years ago. have probably heard me talk about the pork This Bill has two key policy objectives. industry on at least five occasions in the past Firstly, it maintains a regulated farm gate price year. for milk and, secondly, it extends supply We must ensure that we are practical management over the whole State. I wish to about this issue. We know that competition address briefly only that aspect of the 3408 Dairy Industry Amendment Bill 19 Nov 1998 maintenance of the farm gate price. prepared to sacrifice secure employment in a Queensland dairy farmers will have a regulated blind adherence to the economic rationalist farm gate price for a five-year period from 1 principles of National Competition Policy. January 1999 to 31 December 2003. Quite Rather, a managed adjustment period is simply, this means that when a dairy farmer essential to avoid unnecessary disruption. supplies market milk to a processor, that I want to mention briefly the issue of farmer will receive a regulated price for the compositional payments for milk with a higher milk. quality. Nothing in this Bill affects the ability of It is important to remember that market the Dairy Authority to implement a milk is used for direct daily human compositional payments scheme. That is not consumption. The majority of milk produced is, the issue in this Bill. What is an issue for my of course, manufactured milk, that is, it is used constituents—and I hope that members will let for cheese, yoghurt and the like. The price of me digress for a minute or two—is the access this milk is not regulated by the Government to, and the ongoing continuity of, the once and is substantially lower than that of market very strong country culture of Logan City. As milk. Indeed, while the current price of market the urbanisation process has proceeded, milk is approximately 58.9c per litre, I many of our good farmlands have been taken understand that the price of manufactured milk up by urban development. However, I am is in the low thirties range at present. It may be proud to say that we still have a very strong important to note why there is a different price folk and country music culture within my for market milk. You see, dairy farmers must electorate and across Logan City. provide supply 365 days a year. I pay tribute to the 101FM management Mr Reeves interjected. committee—past and present—who had their Mr MUSGROVE: I point out to the 10-year celebration on the weekend. They member for Mansfield that my family has had have been the principal providers of country a very long association with the industry and music and culture in Logan City and still has substantial holdings of dairy farms. surrounding regions for the past 13 years. In fact, the first test broadcast of 101FM was Not many people understand what this conducted from the home of technical director means. It means that the dairy farmers must Mr John Horrocks of Rochedale South be up at dawn or earlier every day of the between 25 October and 28 October 1985, year—Christmas, Easter, public holidays and with the air test frequency band as 107.3 the rest. There is no doubt that a price megahertz. premium to farmers should be paid so that we can have fresh milk to drink every day. I am Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER (Mr Mickel): sure that all members would agree that a Order! The honourable member will return to sudden withdrawal of price regulation may see the Bill. the market milk price decline dramatically, Mr MUSGROVE: Ever so briefly, with the seriously threatening the viability of many small indulgence of the House, I want to dairy farmers and regional communities. congratulate the station managers to date: Of course, Queensland's milk production Graham Polkington, Peter Finch, Alan has continued to expand. In the period 1993- Rawson, Allan Andersen and a very busy, 94 to 1997-98, production has increased patient and humble Mrs Lea Budge. She is a nearly 8%, from 763 million litres to 822 million credit to 101FM as a growing organisation. I litres. In fact, the farm gate value of market am sure that she will do her best. milk sales in 1997-98 was around $220m. This Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: Order! What is a very significant contributor to the regional does this have to do with the price of milk? economies of Queensland. Of course, the principal economies that I am talking about are Mr MUSGROVE: I support this Bill. I the Brisbane/Moreton region, the Darling congratulate the Minister for Primary Industries Downs, Wide Bay/Burnett, Fitzroy, Mackay and on achieving bipartisan support for the Bill. As the far north regions. all members would know, when there is a problem in Primary Industries we send in The public benefit test predicted that the Henry. likely falls in income to those areas from immediate deregulation of the farm gate price Sitting suspended from 12.59 p.m. to would cause adverse regional impacts and 2.30 p.m. significant employment losses. When Mr SEENEY (Callide—NPA) (2.30 p.m.): I combined with difficulties being experienced in appreciate the opportunity to participate in this other rural industries, the overall impact could debate. I congratulate some of the speakers be devastating. This Government is not who have already spoken. Some of them have 19 Nov 1998 Dairy Industry Amendment Bill 3409 made particularly valuable contributions to this I am therefore pleased and gratified to be subject. I will not go over a lot of the ground able to lend my support to this bipartisan effort that they have covered. I agree with what they to do whatever we can at a State level to said. To repeat it would not serve any purpose. ensure that that outcome is not repeated in The dairy industry is a very important Queensland. The legislation before the House contributor to the economic base of many of continues to allow a regulated price and supply the small communities in the Callide management arrangements for the next five electorate. It is an industry that has a long years. I note that, in his second-reading history of providing a living for many families speech, the Minister acknowledges that some on the small land areas created by the closer segments of the industry wanted those settlement schemes of the 1930s. Today in arrangements to be adopted on an indefinite the Callide electorate, there are many basis. I place on the record today my support successful dairy farms, especially around for that proposition. Although I recognise and Monto. Many of those farms have provided a appreciate the difficulties in adopting and living for three generations of the same family. maintaining the provisions of this legislation for There are also some rather large operations an indefinite period rather than the five-year that provide employment to numbers of term, I believe that it should be the aim of people from the local community. In addition, Governments to provide that sort of legislative the milk processing plant at Monto produces framework on an ongoing basis to allow the butter and casein. Along with the shire council dairy industry to continue to operate in a stable and the timber mill, it is the major employer in way. We should be aiming to provide that type the district. of legislative framework to any industry that The dairy industry has a great record of finds itself in the same position as the dairy adapting to change. The initiative and hard industry does today. We should be aiming to work of its farmers in this area is almost provide that type of legislative framework legendary. It is an industry that has expanded ahead of the rapidly changing market its product range and marketed its products situations and commercial pressures that well. It is not long ago that dairy products many small family farms and their dependent meant white milk, some traditional cheeses communities are not likely, by their very nature, and butter. Now there is an incredible range of to be able to withstand. dairy products available. The demand for the Although I would never argue for a industry's products looks set to continue to legislated system that protects producers from grow. This is an industry that has a great market signals or a legislated system that future. It has a great history. It is critically discourages change, I believe passionately important to the survival of many rural that Governments have a role in these communities, many family operators and many circumstances. Governments have a of the employees who depend on it for their responsibility to stand with and assist industries living. that find themselves in the type of position that Therefore, it is right and fitting that the dairy industry is in currently. Governments Governments at all levels should do whatever have a responsibility to stand with and assist is legislatively possible to ensure as much all the individual operators and all the stability as possible in the dairy industry now individual employees who are dependent on and in the future. It is right and fitting for those industries and who find themselves Governments to work with industry threatened by deregulation in our so-called representatives to determine what can be globalised economy. In that respect, I think realistically done to achieve that stability. The this legislation is a very important turning point. type of immediate and total deregulation that It is very significant that this legislation—even was proposed for the dairy industry would have though some may argue that it does not go far caused enormous upheaval and disruption to enough—has unanimous support in this producers, processors and whole communities. Parliament. Of even greater concern is the indisputable There is unanimous support for this fact that has been referred to by a number of legislation as an attempt to moderate the speakers here today, that is, that this type of unfair and unjust outcomes of complete deregulation in other States has not produced deregulation. That sends a very clear message any benefits to the consumer in the form of that it is no longer acceptable for any cheaper products; in fact, the opposite is the Government now or in the future to say simply case. While farmers are forced into a position that the market can sort it out and thereby where they must take less for their product, the abandon family-based businesses, rural or consumers pay more and the only winners are urban, to the tender mercies of the huge the major retailers. multinational conglomerates. It is not 3410 Dairy Industry Amendment Bill 19 Nov 1998 acceptable for Governments to tell family what is possible to ensure that the industry has operations to survive if they can in the face of a fair go and a fair future. increasing globalisation. Governments should I am pleased to support this legislation be saying—as I believe we are in this today. I will continue to support and promote Parliament today to the dairy industry—that we the philosophy behind it for as long as I am recognise our role to help industries and elected to this role, because I believe that that individuals as best we can within the realities of is the responsibility of elected representatives the legislation. We as individual legislators and I believe that this type of legislation is the must stand up for the people who as responsibility of Governments. individuals elect us to this role. We must consult with their industry organisations and do Mr WELLINGTON (Nicklin—IND) whatever is possible to ensure that their (2.39 p.m.): I rise to speak to the Dairy Industry businesses and industries are not wiped out or Amendment Bill 1998. Since the 13 June manipulated by forces that are infinitely more election, I have attended many meetings in powerful than they could ever hope to be. both private houses and public halls throughout the length and breadth of my I believe that in this legislation we have electorate of Nicklin and neighbouring achieved an acceptance that not all outcomes electorates. At these various meetings I have of deregulation and open competition are experienced the real and genuine anxiety of beneficial and wonderful. That is a big step in ordinary Queenslanders who have been the right direction. We have achieved an concerned about their families' future and the acceptance that Governments need to act in future of the dairy industry in Queensland. the interests of the individuals who elect us Since the announcement by the Minister and correct to some extent some of the of the substance of his Bill, I have been asked inequities of open competition in totally by a number of dairy farmers to convey to the deregulated markets. There is now a welcome Minister their sincere appreciation of his effort recognition that Governments have the and attempts to find appropriate solutions to responsibility to ensure that deregulation and the difficulties currently being experienced by so-called open competition does not result in the dairy industry in Queensland. huge powerful players so dominating the Notwithstanding the favourable comments that market that there is no effective competition. I have been asked to convey to the Minister, I That was a very real possibility in this instance. have also received submissions of concern There is now a recognition that Governments from representatives of the Sunshine Coast have the responsibility to ensure that the Jersey Cattle Club concerned that the undesirable outcomes of open competition Minister's Bill has failed to recognise that milk and deregulated markets are minimised. with a low composition is paid at the same rate That attitude and that philosophy must be as milk with a high composition. carried through into other legislation. That I find myself placed in a situation that, no attitude and that philosophy must be built matter what position I take in relation to this upon to achieve a general acceptance in Bill, I will not be able to please all the people public administration. Although the provisions who have approached me with their genuine of this legislation have a five-year life span, the concerns. Notwithstanding that, I have philosophy behind this legislation must be considered all the submissions put to me and supported by all Governments on an ongoing today indicate my support for the Minister's Bill and indefinite basis in the interests of all those and the Minister's attempts to find the best individuals who elect every one of us. As solution to the enormous pressures presently individuals they will never be powerful enough experienced by the dairy farmers in to manipulate their particular market in the way Queensland. that huge multinational conglomerates do, but Mr PEARCE (Fitzroy—ALP) (2.40 p.m.): I they deserve every chance we can give them rise to commend the Dairy Industry to continue to earn a living for themselves and Amendment Bill 1998 to this House. Before their families without being wiped out by forces going into the background of this Bill, I would far beyond their capacity to match. As like to read into Hansard a letter that I received individuals and industries, they deserve the from the Central District Council of the support of whatever Government they elect in Queensland Dairyfarmers Organisation, a copy whatever way is practical and possible within of which was also sent to the Minister and the the realities of their industry situation. I believe member for Rockhampton. It states— that that is what this legislation does for the dairy industry. It does not, cannot and was "Dear Minister, never meant to solve all the problems and The Central District Council of the make everything right for everyone; but it does Queensland Dairyfarmers' Organisation 19 Nov 1998 Dairy Industry Amendment Bill 3411

and the Board of the Port Curtis Milk Traditionally, Victorians have exported most of Supply Co-operative Association Limited their milk. Until recently, that was supported by have given careful consideration to those a Commonwealth subsidy via the domestic recommendations contained in the Report market support scheme. of the Queensland Dairy Legislation The explicit object of that scheme was to Review Committee and fully support the keep Victorian milk out of the domestic market. principles contained. With that scheme soon to be gone and if We would urge you and your Victoria deregulates its dairy industry, we can government to implement the expect to see aggressive action by Victorian recommendations of the Committee well farmers and processors to capture the before 1st January 1999." interstate market share. Although to some It is signed by Beth Jepson, the Secretary of extent distance protects Queensland from this the Central District Council, Queensland incursion, the flow-on effects of Victorian Dairyfarmers Organisation. deregulation of the industry into New South Wales will have the potential to affect The reason I wanted the contents of that Queensland's industry. There will be a wave letter put into Hansard is that, as an elected effect, with Victorian farmers seeking markets member, it is very easy for me to stand in the in New South Wales, thus creating the Parliament and support legislation for an situation of New South Wales farmers looking industry if I know that I have the support of the for markets in Queensland. Also, if Victoria industry itself. In recent times, like all other deregulates its dairy industry, that will bring primary producers, dairy farmers in central down the price of market milk in that State with Queensland have been finding it difficult to possible flow-on effects elsewhere. For many survive. Commodity prices, oversupply and years, the deregulation of the industry in drought have been big issues. The dairy Victoria has been mooted, but it is expected to farmers whom I know in my area, like most of occur at some time following the removal of them, are decent, hardworking people. I the Commonwealth domestic support scheme sincerely hope that the new direction of the in July 2000. The Victorian NCP review is due dairy industry will bring strength and long-term to report in mid 1999. sustainability to the industry. That will bring job security to those families who have committed We are also monitoring the outcome of themselves to the milking of our dairy herds. other NCP reviews in other States which, although not as important as Victoria, still have I wish to outline some of the background the potential to affect what happens in this to this Bill and the broader economic forces State. In that regard, the outcome of the New operating in the dairy industry both here and South Wales NCP review is most important. It nationally. I do this because members cannot provided for a five-year transition period similar understand what this Bill seeks to do without to that being proposed for Queensland. understanding the context in which it is introduced. In this place much has been said Another significant development is a about the National Competition Policy. I am major process of rationalisation and takeovers sure that all members would recall that last throughout Australia. That means that there week all the parties in this place supported a are now individual processors operating in all motion relating to that topic. Although these States on the eastern seaboard. As national changes to the Dairy Industry Act arise out of a organisations, the processors will naturally National Competition Policy review, it is very want a degree of uniformity in the price that important to note that the NCP itself played a they pay to farmers across the States. If the less important role in the conclusions of the price falls dramatically in one State, that adds review committee. Instead, what was obviously pressure to the price in the other States. acting on the minds of the committee We are also awaiting the impact of post members, who included representatives of farm gate regulation in Queensland. This farmers and processors, was the number of regulation expires on 31 December 1998. Post changes taking place around the dairy industry farm gate deregulation will give rise to changes that cannot be ignored. in the marketplace when it occurs from 1 Firstly, there is the likelihood of January 1999. That will see the removal of deregulation in Victoria. This event is of exclusive processor market franchises, significant importance because of the sheer exclusive milk distribution areas and the size of the Victorian industry. It is fair to say removal of milk price controls at the wholesale that Victoria dominates the dairy industry. It and retail level. A five-year transition period produces approximately 60% of Australia's milk from 1993 has been completed, which and has the majority of our national herd. involved the $90m distribution restructuring 3412 Dairy Industry Amendment Bill 19 Nov 1998 scheme and has seen substantial proper avenue through which to address this repositioning of processors and retailers. market power issue given the large range of Queensland is the last Australian State to primary products retailed by supermarkets. complete this process and will now come into The best way to deal with this problem is line with national marketing practices. In July to involve the Australian Competition and this year, New South Wales deregulated post Consumer Commission, which has the farm gate prices. Following this process was a jurisdiction to address this matter. It is the old drop in the farm gate price. However, I prices surveillance tribunal and, under the understand that the price may be increased Trade Practices Act, it has the powers to before the end of the year. I suppose the inquire into further unfair pricing practices. industry in New South Wales is going through At the recent ARMCANZ meeting, State an adjustment period. Ministers supported an approach to be made The final intervening factor is the impact by the Federal Minister for Agriculture to of the Asian economic crisis, which is yet to be Treasurer Costello to ensure that the determined fully. Against that backdrop, we Australian Competition and Consumer must consider the policy embodied in this Bill. Commission carefully monitors conduct in this The industry itself has accepted that further area. Calls for a review are also being changes are inevitable. That is not so much expressed by other industries, including the because of the NCP but because of the broad fruit and vegetable industry. This Government factors that I have outlined. Overall, both will be monitoring developments to ensure that farmers and producers accept that the proper practices occur in the retailing of changes are necessary to enable Queensland primary produce commodities. I know that the to compete effectively in an increasingly Minister for Primary Industries will continue to competitive market environment. The industry assist producers in this regard. sought an adequate adjustment period to In conclusion, this Bill does not represent manage the change process, and this is a knee-jerk NCP outcome but, rather, is a exactly what the Government has provided for considered response to a range of economic in this Bill. forces operating on the dairy industry. The Bill This Government is committed to creating is supported by industry for just that reason, a dairy industry that is strong and that is which is why I wanted to read that letter into competitive and profitable for producers and Hansard. This Bill allows for change at a pace processors. The Government is determined to that can be absorbed by those involved. I maintain a dairy sector in central and north commend the Bill to the House. Queensland. It is not prepared to let dairy Dr PRENZLER (Lockyer—ONP) farmers face the full effect of market forces in (2.54 p.m.): One Nation supports this Bill one fell swoop. That would result in many completely, because we are in this House to farmers losing properties for no good reason, represent the best interests of Queensland. and we know the impact that that has not only The deregulation of the dairy industry will be on families but also on communities and catastrophic for Queensland producers and regions. We do not want to see that happen. related industries. Deregulation will open the These producers need time to adjust, time to Queensland dairy industry door to southern decide if they want to stay in the industry and, dairy interests and will tell them to come inside if they do, time to prepare themselves and make themselves at home. The Victorian adequately for market forces. In this way, industry has been waiting with bated breath for many farmers who might not have survived our industry to be deregulated so that it can immediate deregulation will be ready when it enter the market, making a killing and driving comes. So they are preparing themselves for our farmers out, and it can do it. Victorian milk what will happen. can be transported to Queensland in non- This Government is aware that the refrigerated vehicles at minimum cost and with outcome of these amendments will have to be little drop in temperature. If the Dairy Industry monitored and a further review of Amendment Bill is not passed, after January Queensland's arrangements conducted, if 1999 the Victorian industry will not have to wait necessary. So that means that we will be any longer. keeping an eye on what is happening and, if The long-term results of deregulation will necessary, we will make adjustments. Some inevitably mean the monopolisation of the misgivings are being expressed regarding the industry, death to the small farmer, and higher unequal balance of market power, particularly prices and no quality control for the with large retailers. However, it is doubtful that consumers. If not for this Bill, the Queensland the Dairy Industry Act can be justified as the dairy industry would be devastated shortly after 19 Nov 1998 Dairy Industry Amendment Bill 3413

1 January next year when deregulation would and lives. Their sole livelihood depends on the have commenced. The Bill provides short-term survival of the industry. According to the relief from a long-term game of survival of the Queensland Dairyfarmers Organisation, the biggest—not survival of the fittest, as the Queensland dairy industry directly employs economic rationalists would have us believe. some 8,000 people in production alone. That Last week this House rejected the figure does not include those employed in milk National Competition Policy, and rightly so. processing. The employment multiplier ratio in Even academia, the creators of the unrealistic this industry is three to one, which amounts to textbook policy that is followed blindly by 24,000 jobs as a direct and indirect result of politicians of both parties, now admit that the production sector of the Queensland dairy perhaps it is not such a good idea and industry. perhaps it did not quite achieve the results that Deregulation will result in the destruction it was supposed to achieve. If the academics of many of those jobs. Whole communities will and the intellectual elite of the nation are fade into oblivion as large producers buy beginning to wake up to the disaster called smaller ones. They will continue to grow and economic rationalism, perhaps the politicians interstate dairy industries will pull more and might, too. Within the next five years, perhaps more of our market share away. We will see we will see a shift in focus from economic more suffering, more broken homes and rationalism to economic nationalism, which is families, and shrinking rural communities. As a economic realism. result, consumer prices will rise. Generations of dairy farmers, particularly small family farmers The huge support for One Nation clearly who have been the backbone of rural demonstrates public opinion on and support of Australia, will disappear. The only ones who will nationalistic policies, both economic and benefit from this madness will be the large social, and a distinct dissent from economic retailers and the monopoly supermarket rationalism and the attitude of the intellectuals. chains, which will increase the prices paid by The so-called level playing field is a classic the consumers while the farmers suffer. The example of the terminology that is often used partial deregulation in New South Wales is a by the ruling elite and is often mentioned in current example of that happening. Once Canberra. A level playing field may exist, but to again, the rural heart is being torn out. reiterate what has been said by the leader of my party, Pauline Hanson, Australia seems to The Cooloola Shire Council provides a be the only one on it. This level playing field classic example of the damage to a rural also exists within Australia. community that deregulation can cause. The Cooloola Shire is centred on Gympie and is On an international scale, two countries based on agricultural industries. It is central to that are vastly different in standards of living, one of the largest dairy sectors in the State. In size, climate, traditions, culture and so on fact, my senior adviser, Ian Petersen, is cannot possibly take the same steps to adamant that Gympie is the dairy capital of achieve the same goals without adjustment for Queensland. In October 1997, when the their differences. Within Australia, Queensland Cooloola Shire Council submitted a report to is vastly different from New South Wales, the Dairy Legislation Review Committee, more Victoria and all the other States and Territories. than 180 dairy farmers were operating within It is absurd to suggest that all must drop their the Cooloola region and dairy farming barriers and open their markets without accounted for 25% of all the agricultural consideration of the differences between enterprises in the shire. States on an industry basis. For instance, Queensland's climate plays a major role in the The submission of the Cooloola Shire dairy production process and is vastly different Council discusses repeatedly the effects of from that of Victoria, which has much more deregulation upon the farmer, his family and temperate conditions. Australia is the only the community as a whole. It estimates "that country on the world level playing field; do not falls in farm income will force about one third of let Queensland be the only State on the the local dairy farmers out of the industry". internal level playing field, at the expense of Those farmers face long-term unemployment. Queensland producers and jobs. They will simply add to the welfare queues, as they will have no choice but to stay on the dole As at 1997, there were 1,680 dairy or move away from the area. Even if they do farmers in this State. Those figures are move, employment is still unlikely considering sourced from the 1993 National Competition the average ages and education levels of Policy review of the Dairy Industry Act, a report many of those farmers, who will be looking for of the Queensland Dairy Legislation Review work in an environment of increasing Committee. Those producers have families unemployment. 3414 Dairy Industry Amendment Bill 19 Nov 1998

In addition, the multiplier effect of three to even though it has only limited power and one will result in devastation for local hence will last us only so long, at least, businesses in the community. The submission though, the Bill before this House today of the Cooloola Shire Council further states provides some protection for industry for five that "for every dollar not spent by a dairy years, while maintaining prices for market milk farmer, there will be approximately three and allowing the extension of supply dollars not available to be spent in this management arrangements applying in community." It is common knowledge that the southern Queensland to the entire State's farmers' first rationalisation will be to lay off any dairy industry. employees, forcing the farmers to work harder Any protection of this industry should be and longer hours themselves. That will lead to supported by all who are concerned with what increased family pressures, personal stress, is best for Queensland. I reiterate my support fatigue, a greater chance of accidents and and stress the importance of this Bill to the poor land management, capital investment continuation of our dairy industry and to the and development. lives of the 1,600 farmers, their families and The council comes to two conclusions of their communities. I would hope that in the five particular note. The first is that the cost to years' saving grace some resolution to the individuals, the industry, the local community nonsense of National Competition Policy may and, ultimately, the State economy will far be found, and that this industry might be outweigh any potential gains that may ensue saved. This Bill at least gives them that from deregulation. The second is that it is chance. absolutely vital that the Queensland Dairy One Nation has always fought, and will Authority continues to set the farm gate price continue to fight, economic rationalism and of market milk in Queensland and that the National Competition Policy in its entirety. We present system of entitlement remains will continually fight for the survival of unchanged. Australian industries and recognise the We have also been made aware of the importance of rural communities and primary concerns of some farmers about the need to industry. I stand here today in support of the have a pricing system that takes into account industry and its obvious pleas for help as the milk quality and composition. This issue does deregulation monster begins to devour it. One not need to be addressed in the Bill before the Nation has an unchanging position, and that is House. It can be adequately covered by what is good for Queensland dairy producers. regulations. One Nation will be monitoring the We must put Queensland first. We must outcomes and will be pressing for such ensure that individual producers continue to regulations as soon as practical after the Bill have their price security and that the milk has been enacted, to provide a degree of producer is not jeopardised at the expense of certainty and stability. the retailer. Price and supply for producers is That is what this Bill does, and it is an absolute must. This Bill supplies that to the necessary for the survival of the industry—for a dairy industry and, as such, it is necessary that while longer, anyway. That is why I fully it be passed. I urge all other members of the support the Dairy Industry Amendment Bill. I House to put aside party politics and support am sure that the Shire of Cooloola has many this Bill and the dairy farmers of Queensland. similarities to much of Queensland where the Mr VEIVERS (Southport—NPA) dairy industry is involved, and is not alone in (3.01 p.m.): Deregulation is all about Australian voicing its concerns about deregulation. The ownership—or the lack of it. Deregulation has Honourable Minister for Primary Industries put many food processors in Australia in the rightly stated in his second-reading speech hands of overseas owners. I cite the most that instant deregulation of this industry, recent examples of Pauls, Norco and without the price controls that this Bill Dairyfields being purchased by international implements, would lead to the instant food processing company Parmalat. This is destruction of the Queensland dairy industry. just another example of a long list of Australian Queensland milk farmers rely on this processors in the food chain being taken over Government to protect their jobs and to by overseas interests. encourage an environment that provides Interestingly, earlier today the member for opportunity for all industries to grow and Logan mentioned many companies from down prosper. Government has let them down, both south that are exporting—something that they federally and at the State level, primarily as a are doing well. Unfortunately, not one of those result of the National Competition Policy. This companies is Australian owned. That is a very Bill is the only saving light for this industry and, sad indictment on the situation in Australia. 19 Nov 1998 Dairy Industry Amendment Bill 3415

The milk processing industry was the dawn of more! That is what I am trying to get at. Australian cooperatives, as was the sugar Dairyfields, Norco and Pauls, as they industry. As it has been forced to deregulate, amalgamate, are just little players in the big ownership has passed. I know that, because I field. We had to sell, otherwise we would have and my father before me were shareholders in been eaten up. We would not have been able the South Coast Cooperative Dairy Factory, to get $18.43 for our shares and we would later to become the Dairyfields Cooperative, have had to sell our dairy farms—we would which was recently taken over by Parmalat. have lost everything. We are getting a bit for I am sure that the former member for our old bonus shares—$18.43. I have had Warwick—and it is a pity that he is not those shares since 1947. I did not think they here—the late Des Booth, would be chuckling were worth anything. I used to say to the late at the pearly gates about what has come to Allan Hollindale, "How about giving me a buck pass and the changes that have been made for these and giving me some real money." I that would not have even been thought of 12 am very glad that he did not do that. At one years ago. The Minister for Primary Industries stage I even told his son, Ian Hollindale, "Give acknowledges that. I remember being part of me $3 and I'll sell them to you." Once again, the South Coast Dairy when Mr Booth was a we see a little poetic justice in that he did not member and chairman of the Warwick Cheese buy the shares, and now I am getting $18.43. Factory Cooperative. Mr Purcell interjected. Mr Palaszczuk interjected. Mr VEIVERS: Yes, there are a few of them. Mr VEIVERS: Yes, he was. When I first came in here, I thought that he was in the Mr Purcell: It's your shout. Opposition and I was in the National Party. Mr VEIVERS: No, we do not have it yet. After a while I thought that I was in the I say again to all honourable members Opposition and he was in the National Party; that the dairy industry today is on a world he used to give me a nice old touch-up. He footing and has to compete with overseas had forgotten more about the dairy industry benchmarks. That is very difficult. Without this than I probably will ever know. He knew a lot legislation, we would not have survived. We about it. However, times have changed and would have lasted five years and then dropped our milk industry is again at the crossroads. off the precipice. I agree with the member for This debate is not a political one; we are Callide when he said that we had better look at talking about the direction of the Australian the circumstances after four years and try to dairy industry. We should bear in mind that increase that drop-off period. I have seen it Victoria has the wood on us in relation to happen before. The member for Warwick, Mr production. They are able to produce their Springborg, is not in the Chamber. Our product and transport it from Victoria to company did that sort of thing at Warwick; we Queensland at a cheaper rate than we can picked the eyes out of it and we bought up at produce milk in Queensland. If anyone in the the right price. gallery or any other honourable member can The public servant with the beard advising tell me differently, I will stand corrected. That is the Minister does not agree with me. I assure the worry and bane of every dairy farmer in him that I am flour; I have been through the Queensland. mill. I put up my $700,000—my money—and I My parents were involved in the industry do not want to lose it. I do not know what he and I grew up into it. My father was a butcher, put in, but I asked him a question—— and I do not know why, being a butcher, he Mr Palaszczuk: You haven't lost any bought a dairy farm. However, he did, and I money. have been left with it ever since. I purchased two more of my own thanks to that good Mr VEIVERS: Let us put it this way: I do football club in Sydney Manly Warringah, and not want to lose any. it all worked out beautifully. However, that is I asked that public servant a question and the short term. Today I wish to speak about he was quite honest in saying, "We can look the long term. after you in relation to where this is coming from, that is, the farm gate, through into the Mr Lucas interjected. can and down to the factory. Once it hits the Mr VEIVERS: No, I wish to speak processor and it is heading out, we can't help seriously. Why would Parmalat, owned by the you." That is where our problems are going to Tanzi family in Italy, pay us $18.43 for our be. I have not started my prepared speech bonus shares? If they are worth $18.43 to yet; I have gone off it. What I am saying is them, what are they worth to us? Much, much that, once the processor gets it he has got us. 3416 Dairy Industry Amendment Bill 19 Nov 1998

We saw what happened to the bread industry of the Caboolture acidophilus yoghurt, which is down south. Once it was deregulated, the only now being copied by some international price of bread went through the roof. The processors. It has been on the market up here producer got nothing, but the bloke selling it for years. got plenty—five times the amount. That is a lot Mr Feldman: It's good stuff. of money. Mr VEIVERS: It is a tremendous product. Five years ago the Federal It is only coming onto the world market now. Government—it was of the Labor There are many other examples of small, persuasion—signed an accord to deregulate locally owned cooperatives that have been the milk industry. I will say honestly that it saw before their time in some of their initiatives its mistake. It said, "We are out of here." Then while there was regulation, and I emphasise John Howard came along and picked it up. that. It could never be said that balanced But, unfortunately, he just kept going with it. regulation stifled progress and initiative in this Contrary to the advice of industry leaders at industry. that time, he went ahead with this—the mob of the members opposite started it; our mob kept The dairy industry in Queensland has a going with it. We are now suffering as a result proud record of achievement in terms of staff. of that misguided decision. That is my Labor members should hang their heads in personal opinion. People may disagree, but I shame when they consider that, under have seen it happen all around. It is very regulation, the level of skills and accredited difficult when one is competing on the world courses undertaken by Queensland stage. Unless one has the wood, one cannot employees in the dairy industry was among compete and it is very difficult. the highest in Australia and, under deregulation, it will probably take a very bad The Federal Government was told—it has come to pass—that with deregulation the price dip. As we experience the mad clamour for to the consumer would go up and the returns deregulation, for profits to go off shore to cut to the farmer would go down. We have heard costs, we will see a labour force with fewer it all today. The member for Cunningham was skills and less formal accreditation. Clearly it will talking about it. It is the processors and the be a labour force that will move from one chain stores that are now holding this nation to deregulated company to another, not ever ransom—and they are. No-one has mentioned putting its skills to use in an industry that has a it today, but we do need anti-trust laws in this proud history under regulation in Queensland. country. We really do, otherwise the The dairy industry in Queensland and monopolies are going to get bigger and the Australia has a proud history in a decentralised little guy will get smaller—we think we are economy. How many honourable members pretty big. We have signed on with Parmalat. spent time on their father's, uncle's, relative's We are a minuscule dot out there in the world or friend's farm in the past? What a wonderful of dairying, and we will have to be very careful heritage! But all of that is at risk. Places such that we do not get eaten up. The Minister has as Atherton, where the tin industry and timber a very difficult job that was thrown to him. I am industry have been decimated and only the glad it is him and not me, and I am sure that dairy industry is left—and the Government is the shadow Minister for Primary Industries is about to decimate that industry also with this glad it is the Minister and not him because it is regulation—will suffer. Places such as Monto, not going to be easy. When the chickens Warwick and Beaudesert—country areas come home to roost, we will all be out there where, once again, other primary industries saying, "We told you so." have suffered as a result of depressed world In Queensland, for 10 years before prices and a reliance upon the Asian markets deregulation—and honourable members that have been touted as our saviour for many should think about this—milk prices did not years—will also suffer. They, too, will be increase by more than 50% of the consumer decimated when they lose their last vestige of price index, and I challenge anyone in this a stable, regulated industry as we deregulate Parliament to find any other product on the the dairy industry in those areas. delicatessen shelves of supermarkets that has The Government should forget about retained its value as milk did in that time. No- getting exemptions for five years. We have one will be able to come up with one. Under dairy producers who will get exemptions and deregulation that price control will be lost, and ongoing exemptions after that. Forget all that. that is what the Government has to look at. Members opposite should look at what Queensland cooperatives have a history of happened to bread prices down south, which I leading the nation with innovative products was talking about before, after the and processes. I remind honourable members deregulation of that industry. Prices at the 19 Nov 1998 Dairy Industry Amendment Bill 3417 retail level soared, and producers copped the not impossible to transport milk over long thump. Just today—and this is a warning to distances. That will immediately put pressure us—we have seen what the Australian on the dairy farmers in the south-east corner of Competition Tribunal has done to newsagents Queensland. The bigger producers in New throughout Australia. This could also happen South Wales can produce it a bit cheaper and to the dairy industry no matter what we do send it up the line from Taree, just like that. here. They should not forget that a tribunal is Let us not kid ourselves. I have four set up and it just goes "swoosh" and we are minutes remaining; I do not want to miss out of business. anything. I want to tell honourable members Deregulation does not have one that under a gentleman's agreement it was not advantage for consumers, workers, farmers or uncommon for dairy factories to do that. Norco communities. This present attempt to regulate used to send it to Pauls— farm gate prices is only a bandaid. That is why Mr Pearce: Malanda sent milk south. I agree with the member for Callide; the Government really has to look at it and be Mr VEIVERS:—while Malanda sent it ready to bounce into another area, otherwise down to the Gold Coast Dairyfields factory just people will be dropping off. The member for to keep up the Christmas or Easter supply. Logan talked about the Government having to Mr Mickel: They used to send it to come up with moneys to reimburse people Victoria, too. who have dropped off the system. The Mr VEIVERS: I can tell the member Minister will have to be very careful about that. opposite that not too much ever went to It is his business how he does it, but I am sure Victoria; I was always worried about it coming he will be able to. up the other way. It happened because certain Mr Palaszczuk: Compensation. areas could not meet their quotas. When the Mr VEIVERS: "Compensation" was the Easter and Christmas influx was on at the Gold word I was looking for, thank you. Coast, sufficient milk had to be provided. There was a gentleman's agreement to Speaking of what is happening in my override section 92 and milk was delivered in area, I will point out a few things. The joint an unmarked tanker. The milk was good, but it venture has begun to rationalise brands and was not ours; it came from over the border pursue strategies in the knowledge that the somewhere. The supply had to be kept up and joint venture—that is the one down the the quotas met, and that is the way it was coast—will ultimately be known as Norco/Pauls done. and will reflect 50% ownership by them. So the name and tradition of Dairyfields has been lost The recommendation of the chairman of forever from south-east Queensland. Already the Hilmer working committee was that "the Woolworths and Coles have indicated that price of milk within Queensland should equate they will stock only a limited number of with the next best commercial option", and Dairyfields products because they consider clearly that implies a New South Wales price Pauls will become a Statewide brand and, plus freight. As I said, it would be a pity to after deregulation from 1 January, that is all have a supply established from New South that will be stocked in their stores on that Wales that disrupts and diminishes the volume basis. of the Queensland product. It is of concern that rumours abound— In effect, the new supply cooperative will and after this afternoon I feel that they are not assume the responsibilities associated with the just rumours—indicating that milk will be conditions of supply to Pauls. It is anticipated imported from New South Wales because at that the rate of payment will reflect the price the present price it is a better commercial Pauls paid, which in turn is based upon proposition than purchasing milk from different criteria from those applying to our Queensland sources. A number of displaced cooperative. That is at Dairyfields. In particular, vendors and distributors have a desire to those differences will reflect volumes and distribute products which cannot be sourced quality, and producers should be aware of that from existing Queensland suppliers and, as changed basis for payment. That is most has been reported in many newspapers, a important. third major processor in the area of the This means that after five years they can member for Logan, National Foods, has say, "Two to the valley. We don't want you. committed to building a factory there and We've got a big bloke up the valley whose securing a portion of the Queensland market. truck can go up and come back down with one That company has a factory at Taree. Our load, instead of picking up five loads and experience at Raleigh would indicate that it is running around and fiddling about." 3418 Dairy Industry Amendment Bill 19 Nov 1998

Honourable members should not delude common market was established, that whole themselves. That will happen if we do not take market of butter to the United Kingdom up this five-year option. I have to be careful collapsed. That brought about substantial about what I say in this debate, because I change in the dairy industry. That change has have a vested interest in the dairy industry. led us to where we are currently. A Government member interjected. At about that time the quota system Mr VEIVERS: No, I have watched it grow around the capital city of Brisbane was from nothing. The dairying industry has always developed. We have heard about the been very steady. We always knew that if we Dayboro, Gold Coast and Moreton could produce a certain amount of milk we areas—those areas closer to Brisbane. The would get a certain return. With sheep, grain, quota system developed included a penalty for cattle and sugarcane, when the rains did not the quota, or a certain percentage of the come people knew they were going down and quota, not being achieved in the winter there was nothing they could do about it—that months, when it was most difficult to produce would be a loss—whereas in the dairying the quota. Consequently it was very costly to industry farmers could always shore produce milk, because the farmers had to feed themselves up so that they could feed cotton grain. They had to bring it in from the downs seed, fruit pulp, molasses—— and other areas. They had to feed pineapple Mr Seeney: Lucerne hay. pulp and so forth. Mr VEIVERS: Yes, lucerne hay when it In the late sixties and early seventies could be got from those other farmers. Just there was some major adjustment in the dairy like in Callide, they always wanted bars of gold industry with the dairy amalgamation scheme for their green lucerne when the droughts were and other such schemes. Many dairy farmers on. amalgamated. That was the era in which bulk Time expired. vats were introduced. There was a major shift away from the production of milk on a Mr HORAN (Toowoomba South—NPA) seasonal basis. In those non-quota areas, (Deputy Leader of the Opposition) (3.21 p.m.): calving occurred in the spring months and I am pleased to say that the Opposition dairy farmers milked their cows for around nine supports this very important Bill before the months of the year and then had two or three House today. Previous speakers have outlined months off in the winter. In the quota areas the historical importance of the dairy industry around Brisbane which were producing the to Queensland. In many ways, the dairying market milk for the capital city, farmers were industry has put many farming families on the being paid a high price but had to provide milk land in Queensland. In years gone by it was 365 days a year. one of the few rural enterprises that people could get into with minimal finance and know With the advent of bulk vats, herringbone that they would have the cash flow of a dairies and irrigation and the loss of the monthly cream cheque or a milk cheque, European common market, there was a major depending on the time they got into it. change in the dairy industry in Queensland. Interestingly, while the Darling Downs was Many of the dairy organisations around the originally taken up by about nine large pastoral State wanted some access to market milk. As holdings, the next wave of settlement involved a dairy farmer in the Mary Valley at the time, I the smaller settlers. Many German and Irish was very involved. There were three factories families took up small blocks. Settlements in the area at that time—Nestle, Wide Bay and started in areas around places such as Nobby Kraft at Kenilworth. We supplied Nestle. We and Greenmount and dairying became an were all producing what was called integral part of the establishment of the manufacturing milk, which was paid at about downs. It was also important to some of the half the price of the quota milk being provided soldier settler blocks when dairying was by the quota farmers in the south-east corner established in areas as far west as Wandoan, of the State. Chinchilla and so on. Dairying was very I think this is really when the system of important in establishing the rural parts of supply management developed. One of the Queensland. arguments we often put up was that we were One of the things that got dairying started able to produce milk 365 days of the year, off was the need to produce butter for Great irrigated rye grasses in the winter or irrigated Britain. Over many decades there were little kikuyu in the summer, at a price actually dairy factories throughout the length and cheaper than the artificially high prices that the breadth of the State. When the European quota suppliers were being paid. Their price 19 Nov 1998 Dairy Industry Amendment Bill 3419 was artificially high because they had to feed with Queensco. The likes of the downs, in the winter to keep from being penalised. Caboolture and Booval got together to the In the interests of supply management or extent that now there are three major rationalisation, we also suggested a book processors in Queensland—Dairy Farmers and entry. Rather than cart all the milk from the Pauls, or Parmalat as it is now, and National South Burnett or Mary Valley areas to Foods. This is all in preparation for handling Brisbane, we suggested a system of a book the so-called deregulation that was supposed entry or some other practical way of making to come upon us at about this time. sure that the milk that went from Brisbane Fortunately, a coalition Government came into perhaps was the market milk. Ours was all power in 1996. We put in place a dairy review manufacturing milk but then we got an committee, which was able to look rigorously at equalisation of price. It could have made a lot the public benefit test under National of sense. Competition Policy to see whether the dairy industry should be exempt from deregulation, Gradually we got our foot in the door. We particularly up to the farm gate area, in the started off with 2% quotas and built up to the interests of the public. system that we have had in recent years of a system of entitlements. Some people had The dairy areas of the State are in places quotas that they bought. In other dairying such as Warwick, Allora, Clifton, Oakey, areas of the State there were entitlements or Toowoomba, Monto, Gympie, the Atherton factory entitlements. The factory may have Tableland and all the other places that have had a quota of, say, 5,000 litres a day. If the been mentioned today. All members would intake for the factory was 10,000 litres, then know how important the small family farm the farmer supplying it got about 50% market is—although most of those farms are not all milk price and the balance at the that small. I suppose that there would be manufacturing milk price. around 100 cows on the average-size farm. The Opposition spokesman for Primary Since 1993 we have seen a dramatic Industries mentioned that $300m a year is change right through the dairy industry. In paid to the dairy industry in farm gate prices. 1993, when there was major deregulation post That $300m is spent 100% in those townships. farm gate, we saw the whole system of It is spent on paying for fuel, feed and distribution of milk change dramatically. All the irrigation, on getting a mechanic out to fix the small milk vendors that were around—lots of irrigation plant, getting new equipment, buying small businesses—changed. It changed into a groceries in the local town, and buying system of different classifications. The dairy vehicles, machinery, cattle and so forth. The industry, through the farmers and processors, dairy industry is extremely important in all put in about $90m for a buy-out system that those rural areas. compensated some of those people. The big worry under National Competition One of the things that sadly has been lost Policy—and it is what we are seeing under by the dairy industry through that process is National Competition Policy—is a transfer of some of its marketing power. There was a very cash from the country towns to the capital strong milk vending industry. Virtually every cities or to overseas shareholders. I ask house was attended to by small vendors. They members to consider the risks and the competed aggressively in the delivery of milk. possibilities that we face perhaps throughout For many people, a milk vending run was a the next five years to which this Bill applies or start in small business. I know that a lot of at the end of those five years. Other members blokes who played football hoped that at the have spoken about the risks. Opposition end of their football careers they might be able members applaud the fact that, in this to buy a milk run or something like that. They legislation, we are endeavouring to provide— had a bit of value and it kept them fit for the and will be providing—a farm gate price. rest of their lives. That was a way of marketing Despite the fact that we are maintaining a and of making sure that the product got supply management system, there will be around. Certainly some change has been enormous economic pressures from further brought about with the advent of flats, units down the chain—from the supermarkets, which and supermarkets. are endeavouring to bring down the price so That is a bit of a potted history of what that they can "adjust" the price for which they has happened. It brings us to this point, where sell milk. over the last five years there has been In New South Wales, immediately upon dramatic change. A large number of factories deregulation, despite the provision of a farm and processors have come together to the gate price and a supply management system, extent that factories on the downs formed in the price of milk paid at the farm gate was 3420 Dairy Industry Amendment Bill 19 Nov 1998 forced down under economic pressure, but the important challenges for the department and price of milk stayed the same in the the Queensland Dairy Authority is any future supermarkets. What effect does that have? growth that occurs. Say, for instance, that the farmer is losing 5c a It is important to remember those young litre on his market milk. The average cow is people who want a start in life in business or probably producing about 6,000 litres a year. on a farm. If there is growth, and if there are Half of that is market milk. Multiply that out, young farmers who are getting established or and that gives the loss per cow. Multiply that who have been established, then I have a figure by 100 cows, and that is what every personal belief that they should have the farmer is going to lose. That amount of cash is opportunity to share in that growth. That going to be shifted from that family farm in growth should not exist solely for the benefit of Allora or Oakey to a centre of major those who are really big and have been in the population—to a major supermarket chain, to shareholders or overseas people. That is one industry for some time. I had the honour of of the principal things that is wrong with many making my start in life on a dairy farm. It was a aspects of the National Competition Policy. wonderful life for me and my family, despite the difficulties of the time. However, the lesson Many members have spoken about for me was that young people who want to looking after our own and looking after our own have a go deserve some chance. That is why I family—be it our own electorate or our own believe that, looking at the system of growth, State of Queensland. That is why the there must be some recognition of those Opposition is pleased to support this Bill and younger farmers who are starting out in the the provisions that have been included industry. following the nine recommendations of the review committee. This is about protecting our Of course, there will be some real own. Let us not be frightened to use the word challenges along with that growth. Sales of "protect". Over the years, the dairy industry UHT milk will certainly have an effect in has been able to display enormous Queensland, because not a lot of UHT milk is resilience—resilience in the way in which it has presently retailed in this State. We have a very changed its feeding mechanisms and moved strong processing sector in Queensland, and a to silage or irrigation, and resilience in the way lot of research and development will occur in which it has brought in new-style genetics. within that sector. It is good that we have bipartisan support for this. There is great Queensland led the way, through the DPI, support for the dairy industry, which is with artificial breeding, embryo transplants and absolutely important and essential to so forth. The processing industry has been Queensland. able to produce many innovative new products. One has only to look at the It gives me great pleasure to support this supermarket shelves to see how important legislation and to warn this Parliament of the many of those new products are. The dairy challenges of the future. Time is always of the industry can face up to great challenges, but it essence. In the dairy industry it costs people a is important that we provide the maximum great deal to purchase the land, set up amount of time and protection for those irrigation systems, install milking machines and people, because what we are really protecting buy a herd, bulk vats, tractors, equipment and are jobs and the economic wellbeing and so forth. It is an investment that probably costs health of many of the towns and rural on average about $600,000 or $700,000, but communities and, indeed, cities of our State. it can be anywhere between $600,000 and The money is not only in the country towns; it $2.5m. It is a big investment for people. It is is there in the warehouses of Brisbane which certainly an investment that gives a return to pack the pumps, the polythene pipes, the drip Queensland and provides jobs for many other dips, drenches and so forth and send them people down the chain. out; it is there in the transport industry; and it is The dairy industry is worthy of the support there in the processing industry. It is a good, of this House. I congratulate the Queensland strong, viable industry that is one of the cogs Dairyfarmers Organisation on the sound way in of Queensland's economy. which it has endeavoured to help all sectors of I join with my colleagues in supporting this the industry and the way in which it has Bill. I believe that we will face challenges in the endeavoured to hold the industry together as future. One of those challenges is that the one, so that the members are not fighting Dairy Authority will administer the extension of against each other and there is one strong, the farm gate price and the supply united industry. Importantly, I commend the management arrangement. A subcommittee efforts of the members of the review will look at future price fluctuations. One of the committee, who did their job thoroughly and 19 Nov 1998 Dairy Industry Amendment Bill 3421 soundly and came up with nine good The devastation that it can have on whole recommendations. I am pleased to join with communities and Australia's society generally my colleague the member for Crows Nest in is real and growing. I am sure the member for supporting this Bill. Tablelands would have loved to rise and speak Mr FELDMAN (Caboolture—ONP) (Leader about the devastation that deregulation will of the One Nation Party) (3.37 p.m.): I support cause to the dairy industry on the tableland the Bill before the House. Before I go any and to the factory at Malanda. further, I would like to talk about my humble Mr Nelson: You are lucky I am not. beginnings. The honourable member for Mr FELDMAN: We are lucky he is not. Southport spoke about having nothing at the start. That is where I come from. There is Economic rationalism and its offshoots, nothing poorer than a cream farmer from the such as the NCP, have played a major part in back of Kumbia. I grew up on a farm. But back Australia's changing and dismal societal then, a farm supported the family and the landscape. Deregulation rips at the core of extended family. Occasionally, it supported a Australian industry, increases unemployment sharefarmer as well. We are far beyond those and the tax burden and destroys people's lives days when the farm supported that many and families. Governments seem to care little people. I cannot talk about the amount of for the long-term benefit of those people, this money in the back pocket of the honourable State and this country. The devastation it member for Southport, but we never grew up creates could never be overemphasised. with that sort of money. Governments should forget the textbooks and the advice of the bean counters and the Mr Fouras: What's 700 grand between economists and listen to the people, who are friends? screaming for relief and for someone to listen Mr FELDMAN: Terrific! It is good to see to them and to help them instead of discarding that the dairy industry has come that far. But them like a broken and useless animal and all my father got for it were two animal then kicking them every time they cry for help. diseases: leptospirosis and brucellosis, and he The National Competition Policy is was on an invalid pension for the last 25 years Commonwealth legislation and the States from tick toxin. have few alternative powers to overcome its It is with great regret that I again see an effects. But what seriously are the costs to industry on the destructive path to Queensland of pursuing it? It is about time the deregulation as a result of the National State and Territory Governments in this Competition Policy. My fear is that the country stopped allowing the Commonwealth Queensland dairy industry faces the same Government to push them around and dictate long-term fate as any other industry which has to them about what will and will not be done. I been deregulated, that is, a monopolised am not sure if much was discussed at the market with higher prices and poorer quality latest Premiers Conference in Canberra apart controls—quite the opposite of what National from the GST, but perhaps it should have Competition Policy is supposed to achieve. been. Perhaps the NCP should have been It continues to amaze me that the Federal discussed instead of merely kicking it around. Government's brilliant economic rationalist Why have successive Queensland scheme has still not worked, but it continues to Governments—not just Queensland but also pursue it, and State Governments all State and Territory Governments— unfortunately fall into line. Last week, the State continually allowed Canberra to take more and of Queensland showed its dissent here in this more power away from them? It is about time Parliament for the National Competition Policy, we fought back. National Competition Policy is with a vote of support for an increased focus clearly against the spirit of the Constitution and on the public benefits test and the human the intentions of Federation. Does the Premier costs involved in this damaging ideology. This, of Queensland have the fortitude to say "No" of course, is too late for the industries which to the National Competition Policy in its have already been destroyed and for the entirety? What is losing $40m from Canberra? thousands of workers who have lost their jobs Is it worth all the benefits that we could have and their livelihoods—like the workers from the for Queensland industry? Members should just Woodford butter factory, the closing down of ask the dairy farmers and their families. which almost destroyed a town. This Bill at least provides a sigh of relief to This Bill is a result of taking a closer look the dairy producers to keep the Victorians out at the human cost of the National Competition of this State and to keep the Victorian industry Policy. The human costs associated with within its own borders for the time being at deregulation are large and often incalculable. least. As the Minister for Primary Industries 3422 Dairy Industry Amendment Bill 19 Nov 1998 stated in his second-reading speech, this Bill for Southport, I suspect he probably would gives the dairy industry five years to adjust and have been far better served by being the to prepare for complete deregulation. I agree chairman of that working group. This decision wholeheartedly with this Bill. I believe it to be is in the best interests of Queensland dairy an absolute necessity for the survival of the farmers, their families and dependent Queensland dairy industry. However, I suggest Queensland communities. that the five-year stay of execution for this In order to ensure equitable producer industry should not be used by dairy producers access to the farm gate price, regulated supply to adjust and prepare for deregulation; it is five management arrangements will be extended years in which Queensland can oppose across the State and will remain in place for National Competition Policy in action and the same period as regulated farm gate prices. words and save this industry from deregulation Currently those supply management before the 2003 deadline arises. It is our duty arrangements that provide for individual to do nothing less than that. One could not producer entitlements and processor access overemphasise the importance of our primary schemes operate only in the south-east industries to this State and to Australia. When corner. The working group recommended to I was a child at school I heard an old saying Cabinet that individual entitlements should be that if the city starves, the country will feed it; granted to dairy farmers in north and central but if the country starves, we are all doomed. Queensland, based on producers' current One Nation will always support the growth market milk access with fair and equitable and development of those industries and criteria to be developed to ensure that reject anything that may destroy or harm them. products from those regions get a fair One Nation has the backbone and the entitlement to the market milk pool. fortitude to oppose such a disastrous policy, The Beattie Government is acutely aware because One Nation is here to represent of the change already occurring within the Queensland and what is best for Queensland. industry and that further change was inevitable In closing—and I will cut my contribution short following reforms in the marketplace and because I promised the Minister I would try to potential reforms in other States. However, this finish early for him—I strongly support this Bill Government is standing up for and standing and again reiterate the need for more to be alongside our dairy farmers. The sentiments done to rescue this industry before it is too expressed by all members here today reveal late. that this Queensland Parliament is doing the Hon. H. PALASZCZUK (Inala—ALP) same thing. Immediate farm gate deregulation (Minister for Primary Industries) (3.43 p.m.), in would have caused enormous upheaval in our reply: I thank all honourable members for their industry, enormous upheaval for our dairy contributions today. It is a rare occasion when farmers, enormous upheaval for their families, all sides of the House are so firmly behind a enormous upheaval for their communities and piece of legislation such as our Dairy Industry enormous upheaval for our State. This Amendment Bill. This Bill is very important, not Government is committed to improving the only to our dairy industry but also to all of effectiveness and smooth operation of Queensland. This Bill honours the Labor Queensland's dairy industry—but never at the Party's commitment to this all-important expense of secure employment and never at industry. The Labor Party made its the expense of enormous upheaval for our commitment to the dairy industry a very clear State. pre-election commitment. It is delivering on I am fully aware of the time constraints that commitment today. that we are under. I will make a few comments This Government has made it clear from on the contributions of some of the members the start that it was not prepared simply to in the debate today. I thank the Opposition deregulate the Queensland dairy industry and spokesman, Mr Cooper, for his support and his leave it to fend for itself against the prevailing cooperation during that pretty tough period market forces. This Government has moved to over the past three months when the give Queensland dairy farmers greater legislation was put together after the working certainty by maintaining the farm gate price for party had presented its reports and market milk for five years under a Statewide recommendations to Cabinet. He expressed supply management scheme. This decision concern about post farm gate deregulation. I follows recommendations from a review believe we all have to recognise that our working group and industry consultation. That industry is mature enough to accept that it has review working group was commenced under to continue adjustment to remain competitive. the previous Government. From the The industry decided on that five years ago. contribution made by the honourable member The industry has to adapt to current Australian 19 Nov 1998 Dairy Industry Amendment Bill 3423 marketing practices, because that is the way are dairy farmers, he showed an things are going today. One cannot realistically understanding of the issues and his suggest that Queensland will benefit from contribution was worth while. ignoring the changing environment. I would like to thank the honourable The Opposition spokesman also spoke member for Lockyer for his contribution and his about growth. Over the past three years we support. Of course, the One Nation Party is have had very low growth within the dairy totally opposed to the National Competition industry. The total increase was from 372 Policy. I know that it is a difficult thing to say, million litres to 377 million litres, which is a but what the Government is doing in this 1.3% overall improvement. Under the current legislation in relation to the dairy industry is proposals, we will have a more flexible probably as far as it can possibly go. The arrangement for our market milk variations. honourable member for Nicklin raised a very The market milk variations will be important issue in his electorate, which is the communicated to our dairy farmers monthly. composition of milk and the jersey cow herd on The new system will have lower administrative the dairy farms in his electorate. That issue is costs. The Opposition spokesman mentioned really not an issue that should be raised in consultation. I do not know whether any more relation to this legislation. This legislation has consultation could have been undertaken than come about as a result of the National was undertaken. Industry leaders, farmers and Competition Policy review. I am keeping an processors have been consulted on the ongoing brief on the issue with the QDA. I will content of this Bill. try to do what is right for the industry in relation The honourable member for Logan to milk composition next year. certainly raised a number of interesting issues. The honourable member for Cunningham He seems to have a passion for providing jobs showed some concern for the dairy farmers in on the export front. I believe that, with post his electorate. He raised some legitimate farm gate deregulation, many of those concerns and I have taken them on board. objectives that the honourable member for The honourable member for Toowoomba Logan raised will be achieved. Of course, that South, coming from the dairy industry, certainly will be good news for our dairy farmers. The has a good working knowledge of the industry member also raised the issue of compensation and, in his own inimitable way, raised issues under the entitlements scheme. I assure the that are very relevant to the Bill. I certainly honourable member that the legal advice that welcome his support because he comes from has been obtained indicates that there is no the industry. legal right to compensation created by the I also thank the honourable member for issue of statutory entitlements. Caboolture for his support. His contribution, like The honourable member for Warwick in that of the honourable member for Lockyer, his contribution referred to the dairy factory was pretty well informed. With those few within his electorate. Also, a wonderful family words, I commend the Bill to the House. called the Hemmings live in his electorate. Motion agreed to. They are really battling out there to establish their dairy farm. The issue that the member raised in relation to the Hemmings is very Committee difficult, simply because the entitlement has to Hon. H. PALASZCZUK (Inala—ALP) be purchased. I personally visited the (Minister for Primary Industries) in charge of Hemmings' property. I have spoken to Mr and the Bill. Mrs Hemmings. I will keep a watching brief on their progress. Clauses 1 to 7, as read, agreed to. The honourable member for Southport, in Clause 8— his own inimitable way, gave a pretty good Mr COOPER (3.55 p.m.): I seek some contribution to the debate because of his clarification from the Minister. During the involvement in the industry since he was a debate, the member for Logan referred to boy. The honourable member for Fitzroy has niche marketing. However, in his reply the some dairy farms in his electorate. As usual, Minister stated that compositional payments his contribution was well worth while and very were not relevant to this Bill. I am wondering if constructive, as was that of the honourable the Minister could explain why proposed new member for Callide. As for the member for section 28(2)(b) states— Springwood, apart from the fact that his "Fix different prices that vary electorate is named after a dairy farm and the according to the composition, grade or fact that he was brought up with relatives who quality of milk." 3424 Primary Industries Legislation Amendment Bill 19 Nov 1998

I would have thought that that would have had that higher payments for high-quality milk are something to do with it. required to correct this trend. The Queensland I also want to make a few comments Dairy Authority has proposed that a series of about the Sunshine Coast Jersey Cattle Club, penalties be imposed on producers of low- which is located in the Gympie area. I take on quality milk. However, I have asked the QDA to board what the member for Logan has said consult further with the industry on this issue, about that group at Beaudesert, and I think particularly with a view to also providing that there might have been one or two others. incentives for producers of high-quality milk. I believe that these issues are important. They This issue will be progressed next year. do not have any bearing on the thrust of this Mr STEPHAN: Following on from the legislation, but those producers are a very comments of the Opposition spokesman, I important part of the dairy industry because ask: how far in the future would the Minister be they produce a product that is different from thinking there is a possibility of resolving the the rest. I believe that the Jersey Cattle Club of problem that is impacting on the producers of Gympie has been in business for 21 or 22 high-quality milk that is coming from the years. They have been trying to get jerseys, the Guernseys, the Brown Swiss and recognition for their product. I believe that we so on? should at least pay them some attention. I am Mr PALASZCZUK: I will answer the informed that through regulation their situation honourable member in this way: we need a lot can be addressed and will need to be more consultation. A lot of consultation has addressed, although I know that it is not going already occurred with the industry, but we to be easy because the vast majority of the need further consultation. The matter is still members of the QDO support the current receiving consideration. I am waiting for further system. However, if these people are submissions, but I assure the Committee that producing a product that may be suitable for the issue will be progressed early next year. the export market or for the local domestic market, ways and means should be found to Clause 8, as read, agreed to. accommodate them. Could the Minister give Clauses 9 to 31, as read, agreed to. me an explanation for new section 28(2)(b)? Bill reported, without amendment. Mr PALASZCZUK: Basically, this clause reproduces what is in the Act already. The amendment Bill does not alter the legislation in Third Reading regard to the introduction of a system of Bill, on motion of Mr Palaszczuk, read a compositional payments for market milk. All it third time. is doing is reproducing what is in the Act already. If the honourable member wants me to continue speaking about compositional PRIMARY INDUSTRIES LEGISLATION payment issues, I will. AMENDMENT BILL Mr COOPER: I will ask another question. Second Reading In relation to what the Minister has said, I am Resumed from 10 November (see looking for an assurance that the people p. 2858). producing that milk, such as the members of Hon. T. R. COOPER (Crows Nest—NPA) the Jersey Cattle Club, are not excluded by (4.02 p.m.): This Bill amends a number of this legislation. That is their concern. They feel primary industries Acts and I will address each that they have been shut out. I do not believe of those Acts. I reiterate that, apart from an that they have been. I want to hear from the amendment to the Brands Act 1915, the Minister that they have not been shut out, that Opposition will support the Bill. they still have a future and that the premium payments for the particular milk that they The first amendment relates to the produce are not shut out by this legislation. Agricultural Standards Act 1994 and addresses the wholesomeness and product Mr PALASZCZUK: I can assure the integrity of the sale of livestock. Firstly, I point Chamber that that is not the case. I can also out that farmers, processors, retailers and say that for some time the issue of these restaurateurs are all in the business of compositional payments has been the subject providing food. Any breakdown at any level of of debate. As the honourable member said, that food chain inevitably hurts others in the the pressure for change is coming from the food chain. While a growing emphasis is being north coast. Those people point out that, over placed on the wholesomeness and quality of time, the quality of Queensland milk has food by increasingly discerning consumers, it is trended downwards and they have proposed vital that Queensland's primary producers use 19 Nov 1998 Primary Industries Legislation Amendment Bill 3425 every means available to deliver to consumers will constitute an automatic offence and an exactly what they want. Food safety and immediate fine will be imposed. Given the wholesomeness has become an increasingly voluntary nature of this scheme and its prominent issue in recent years. In fact, importance to the industry and those whose consumer surveys have revealed that, when livelihoods depend on the reputation of beef people shop for food, food safety and as a safe and wholesome product, and the wholesomeness rank right up there with value fact that the beef industry is supportive of for money. All too often we have seen the these amendments, the Opposition also damage that a food industry suffers whenever supports these amendments. there is a breakdown in the integrity of the The second series of amendments relate food chain. Entire markets worth millions of to the Brands Act 1915. The amendments dollars can be lost, literally overnight. seek to make a number of significant and far- In today's market, competition for the reaching changes to branding practices in consumer dollar, be it export or domestic, is Queensland. Branding is a valuable and fierce. Contrary to what many would often like necessary identification tool for the livestock to think, Australia is not the only beef industries. Currently, branding remains the producing country and beef is not the only superior method of livestock identification in food that consumers can choose to eat. There terms of cost and permanency. However, there are plenty of alternatives available, and those are ongoing efforts within industry to develop alternative food industries are more than willing superior alternative identification methods to take any market share they can. under the National Livestock Identification Scheme. The Opposition strongly supports this Queensland's beef industry is worth some scheme and looks forward to the commercial $1.5 billion. It is one of this State's biggest development of other cost-effective industries, operating in every region and identification methods that will allow livestock directly employing thousands of producers a greater choice as to which method Queenslanders. The beef industry has been at best suits their needs. Broadly, the Opposition the forefront of delivering a safe and is sympathetic to the motive behind the wholesome product to consumers. At every amendments proposed, that is, to make level, the beef industry has striven to not only Queensland branding practices more reflective produce a safe and wholesome product but of modern practice. also guarantee the safety and wholesomeness of that product to consumers. The Opposition supports changes to the branding of horses that will fix a discrepancy of One initiative that the beef industry has particular interest to the racing industry undertaken has been the development of the between branding practices in Queensland National Vendor Declaration System. While relative to other States and New Zealand. The voluntary, that system has now been almost Opposition accepts the arguments behind the universally adopted by cattle producers and proposal to ban cheek branding, the fact that those selling livestock. That system allows the position is not widely used and the support producers to provide a declaration regarding proffered by the industry. the chemical treatments and history of their In his second-reading speech, the sale cattle. Generally, as with any industry, the Minister talked of the need to amend the vast majority of the industry recognises the Brands Act to facilitate better branding merits of ensuring the integrity of this system. practices in the cattle industry. He has However, there will always be an individual proposed a series of changes. The Minister is prepared to jeopardise the integrity of the correct in saying that branding devalues hides system and risk the industry's hard-fought and the reputation of Queensland as one of reputation and market share to make a quick the world's largest exporters of cattle hides. Rib dollar. branding also causes damage to hides. While Put simply, this amendment provides the the Opposition does not dispute that, I point voluntary National Vendor Declaration Scheme out that Queensland hides are also devalued with some teeth. The Vendor Declaration by cattle tick damage, scratching and scarring. Scheme will remain voluntary—and the Nevertheless, the beef industry is actively Opposition supports that—so that producers working towards improving the quality, and will have the freedom to choose whether they thus the reputation, of Queensland hides use it or not. However, if they use it, they will through the development of the National know that the system's integrity is supported Livestock Identification Scheme and better by legislative backing, which will further bolster branding practices, in a bid to secure greater the rigour of the system. Any false declaration returns for this product. 3426 Primary Industries Legislation Amendment Bill 19 Nov 1998

I reiterate that the Opposition supports However, the fact is that there is currently these moves by the industry. However, the no provision in the market for the average amendments proposed by the Minister seek to cattle producer with a few hundred or even a have Government intervene in the few thousand head to gain any similar return marketplace by banning the use of the rib and, furthermore, such a producer does not position. The rib position is arguably the most have anywhere near the market power of the visible branding position and has been one of big pastoral companies to command a the most popular positions with cattle premium from the meat processors. To ban rib producers. The rib position has been branding will deny producers freedom of particularly popular with stud cattle producers. choice and will not drive the marketplace to In their case, the brand is a very useful pay for hide quality. promotional tool for their stock. In simple Although the organisations may support terms, for stud breeders the brand is like an this move, I remain to be convinced that the advertising billboard—it is visible and very thousands of grassroots cattle producers effective. support it. The Opposition will not support this While the intention behind the Minister's attempt to ban rib branding, because there is decision to seek to ban rib branding is no guarantee whatsoever that producers will probably based on good intentions—to gain any benefit. This is the sort of law that increase the value of hides—the Opposition Queenslanders are absolutely fed up with. cannot support his method and, therefore, They are fed up with being told from on high, cannot support this particular amendment. "This is what you have to do, because we Branding is a commercial matter. The know best." What will be next? Sooner or later Government does and should provide the they will be telling us what colour cattle we legislative platform for branding for the should have or what colour cars we should purpose of ensuring the integrity of the buy. As I said, people are fed up to the back identification system. However, it should not teeth with that. use that platform to interfere in the commercial If the processors want to pay, and offer to marketplace, as this move to ban rib branding pay, more for hides that are looked after and seeks to do. For years, the greatest stumbling not scarred, that is when the incentive-based block to the adoption of better branding method will be far better than trying to use practices has been the failure of the legislation as a whip. This Government does processors—the marketplace, in this not want to play a role in encouraging better instance—to pay producers for hides and to quality hides. We feel that the productive way pay a quality-based premium for higher quality is not the punitive way. BIDAC made the same hides. recommendation to the Borbidge Government. It is an old and well-worn argument, For the reasons I have outlined, we did nevertheless an accurate one, that branding not adopt that recommendation and instead practices will improve as soon as producers asked BIDAC to work with the industry to start getting paid for that product. At present, improve branding practices and develop a there is no means for the average producer to value-based marketing system to encourage get a return on their hides regardless of their the production of better quality hides. What quality. The only time when this occurred in has happened to that work since the Queensland to any great degree was when Government changed? In pursuing this the South Burnett meatworks conducted a avenue, I believe the Minister has taken the value-based marketing trial in conjunction with other option—using the stick rather than the the Meat Research Corporation some years carrot. It is far better not to do that and instead ago. Although the returns to producers for offer encouragement to the cattle industry, hides were small, it was a good start. However, including all of the small producers. I am fully regrettably, that trial never progressed to the aware of the industry's position. I have also commercial stage. heard from many cattle producers who have I am well aware that this recommendation said, "Leave us alone. If they want to pay us to ban rib branding has come from the for the hide, we will make our own decision as Minister's Beef Industry Development Advisory to where we brand them. That is why we say Council—commonly known as BIDAC—on that rib branding should be continued. When which industry organisations are represented. they are prepared to pay us for the hides, we'll And I acknowledge the good job they do. I change the position." That is simply a far also acknowledge the efforts of some of the better way. When we use legislation to take big pastoral companies to improve hide quality away a branding position from people who and the fact they are now commanding have had that for 150 years, those people will premiums for that. not be very happy. When they come to me 19 Nov 1998 Primary Industries Legislation Amendment Bill 3427 and complain, I will send them straight to the potential. It is an intensive industry that Minister and say to him, "You sort it out." provides thousands of jobs. As it expands, it An effective and much more cooperative has the ability to provide even more jobs and and conciliatory approach would be to direct will be an increasingly significant driver of funding from the $20m meat processing regional development. In many areas, the only development initiative towards the limitation to expansion of the industry is a lack development of a value-based marketing of water. Given the flow-on community and system for hides. While the industry still awaits Government benefits, the National/Liberal the terms of reference for that initiative, from coalition believes Government has a clear the media reports that program is aimed at responsibility to actively facilitate the encouraging value adding. That is a classic development of water infrastructure with the example of how that $20m fund can be industry. utilised to provide an incentive for moving This amendment removes an out-of-date away from rib branding. I know the Minister will trading restriction and allows the industry take that on board, because it is a good idea. greater flexibility in the marketing of its What better way is there to allow products. Increasingly, the industry is turning to producers as well as the processors to benefit the development of export markets, and with by using a portion of that money for the great success. Many growers also market their development of a value-based marketing own produce or have direct supply chains with system for hides? Consequently, I will be supermarkets and the like. It is essential that moving an amendment to retain the rib as a legislation reflects the needs of the industry, prescribed branding position. In stark contrast and accordingly this amendment is supported to the attempt to ban rib branding, the Minister by the Opposition. also proposes in this Bill to allow branding on In relation to the Forestry Act 1959, the other positions, such as the twist. Everyone in Opposition also supports this amendment, this House is fully aware of the twist position by which has prompted the urgency of this Bill. now. Does anyone not know? The amendment specifically authorises the Mr Seeney: The member for Lytton sale of forest products by the Primary doesn't. Industries Corporation for a period of one year Mr COOPER: We will have a little whip in relation to the Trade Practices Act 1974. It is around—a quiz. We have stumped the a good, commonsense and pragmatic honourable member for Lytton. amendment which will allow a long-term policy for the allocation of native forest products to Those positions are areas of poorer be developed in conjunction with the industry. leather quality. This will allow producers greater The forest industry is vitally important to flexibility and freedom of choice to use the Queensland and, despite sustained attacks position which best suits their operation. For from the environmental movement and foreign that reason, the Opposition supports the competition, it continues to contribute some switch to the twist position. The honourable $90m to the State economy. The member for Gregory knows what the twist National/Liberal coalition is committed to an position is. economically and environmentally sustainable Mr Johnson: Absolutely; right down here. forestry industry and will continue to fight for its Mr COOPER: Absolutely. interests and the interests of those communities it supports. In relation to the City of Brisbane Market Act 1960, the amendment removing the In relation to the Grain Industry exclusive right of the Brisbane Market Authority Restructuring Act 1991, this amendment is to operate a wholesale fruit and vegetable simply procedural and the Opposition supports market within the City of Brisbane was a it. Similarly, the amendment to the Meat unanimous recommendation of the review of Industry Act 1993 is a procedural one which the Brisbane Market Authority by the Borbidge has the support of the Opposition. In Government. The Opposition supports that conclusion, I reiterate that the Opposition is amendment. It will provide fruit and vegetable broadly supportive of the Primary Industries wholesalers with the ability to decide whether Legislation Amendment Bill 1998, with the they will remain at the Rocklea site or move to exception of the proposed removal of the rib a location elsewhere which may better suit as a prescribed branding position in the their business. Brands Act 1915. Queensland's fruit and vegetable industry Hon. K. W. HAYWARD (Kallangur—ALP) is one of the most exciting of our primary (4.17 p.m.): I support the Primary Industries industries, with tremendous development Legislation Amendment Bill 1998. In particular, 3428 Primary Industries Legislation Amendment Bill 19 Nov 1998

I wish to address the issues concerning the Minister said, Queensland hides are largely proposed amendments to the Brands Act sold from abattoirs in a "green" state, 1915. The shadow Minister has made his ungraded and pooled. Whether members position on this issue very clear. opposite like it or not, they are sold on the As we know, most Queensland cattle assumption that the hides will have branding producers brand their cattle to prevent the damage. That is the way it occurs. Those animals from being stolen. Some prefer large hides are then subsequently graded only on brands on the basis that the larger the brand their weight, whether or not they are affected the least likely it is that that animal will be by ticks and, of course, whether the hides are stolen. All brands on the prime hide area have cut. So they are not generally graded on the to be cut out by a user of the hide, which presence of brands and brand damage. reduces the value of that hide, as was This paper is about the global challenge. mentioned by the Opposition spokesman. The We have to accept that, when we talk about worst hide damage is caused by rib brands. hides and where the leather is going—the end The impression I got was that the Opposition is products—we are talking about dealing on the opposed to those amendments in particular. I international market. Overseas buyers then can understand the argument in respect of purchase on a discounted basis, arguing that custom and practice and what some graziers Queensland hides will have brand damage. It have become used to doing over the years. It is used as a way of keeping the price down, is hard to get people to change. I understand thus affecting the return to the individual that people have good intentions. grazier. Apparently it is difficult but it is not The simple fact of the amendment—and I impossible to grade hides at the point of hope to be able to demonstrate this; I am sure slaughter. This is where it needs to be done if that the Minister in his reply will attempt to any direct remuneration to the producer for demonstrate it—is that, in the end, this is quality hides is to occur. about increasing the value of those hides and, It is the same with everything to do with in turn, putting more money in the pockets of downstream processing: the further in the graziers. Queensland and, for that matter, process chain from the point of slaughter, the northern Australian hides have traditionally had harder it is to link particular issues involving, for a poor reputation in the marketplace because instance in this case, hides to the sellers. Most of brand and cattle tick damage. I make producers—most graziers—do not receive any reference to a paper prepared in 1990 for the feedback. I think that fits in with what the Australian Manufacturing Council titled the honourable shadow Minister was saying. One Global Challenge: Australian Manufacturing in questions the value of what one is doing the 1990s. A person described as a senior because one does not get any feedback on scientist in the CSIRO says— the value of the hides. People simply say, "We "Long-standing practices in the meat have sold those hides", and there is that industry prevent farmers from getting any general notion that they are just a by-product premiums for high quality hides ... In and, if they get a bit of money for the hide, addition, Queensland insists on branding that is well and good. As I said, in relation to cattle on the shoulder, which greatly the challenges that are around now, it is reduces hide value." important to seek and to obtain as much return as one can for any part of the beast. The issue of increasing the value and dealing That is the most important thing because, in with matters in manufacturing are important to the end, it is about trying to ensure that the establish that link between the production of greatest return is had by the graziers the animal on the land and the final themselves. destinations for the meat, the hides and other parts of the animal. In the end, because of the A kind of hopeless situation has way our system works, that will mean more developed. Some producers—and we heard money in the pockets of graziers. about that today—and industry organisations have argued that they should not sacrifice the Mr Seeney: No, it won't. opportunity to brand on the ribs until they are Mr HAYWARD: Yes. I am sure everybody assured of a price premium for doing so. They in this Parliament would want to see, firstly, a are saying, "If you cannot guarantee us that competitive industry and they want to see we will get this extra money, why should we do people getting the best value for their hides. it in the first place?" I think there is a different The presence of brands is difficult to detect in argument, and it is something to think about. initial grading of hides without dehairing, which Surely, the better argument is that we should is done further down the tanning process. For be selling hides that are undamaged. That this and other reasons, as I think the shadow would then be the normal process; it would be 19 Nov 1998 Primary Industries Legislation Amendment Bill 3429 normal for the hides to be undamaged. If they quality hides any more than it penalises those are damaged through branding, the penalty who have poor quality hides. then comes to the person who has done that, Mr Seeney: That is a crock. rather than the current situation in which people are saying, "You cannot identify those Mr HAYWARD: It has been identified. brands, therefore there is no guarantee of a Mr Seeney interjected. price premium, therefore I do not want to do Mr HAYWARD: On that basis, there is no it." incentive for individual graziers—individual We all know that some pastoral producers—to take the required action. This companies now process their own cattle and legislative change provides the opportunity for market those hides. Those hides can be that action to occur. The member opposite offered for sale with a guarantee that they are himself said just then that that is the problem, not branded and can command a premium on so let us fix the problem. To get the full that basis. That is a situation usually based on economic benefit of the amendments, the the size of a particular grazing enterprise or introduction of a value-based marketing entity. That can be done without the need to system for hides is required to replace the rely on a high grading system to identify brand- averaging system that currently exists. That free hides. system will reward producers on the basis of the value of their hides. The Opposition was talking about the Honourable members should make no matter of monetary incentive. It is saying that, until a monetary incentive can be mistake: this Minister and this Government are demonstrated first, it does not want to be part working to promote a value-based marketing of it. That is a kind of a lose-lose situation for system. That is being done—I am sure the the individuals and, I am sure, for the overall member for Callide agrees with this—through industry. All that does is retain the right to rib our support of the national hide improvement brand. Until the market can be confident that project and through the Storelink project. DPI's no Queensland hides have rib brands, the Beef Research Institute has a program on poor reputation and the lack of market product enhancement systems. The DPI itself has sponsored something like 20 marketing acceptance of Queensland hides will continue tours for producer groups involving hide and no extra value will flow back into the feedback systems. In short, these system. In the end, if we cannot get the extra amendments to the Brands Act will be great value to flow back into the system, it does not for the cattle industry. Most importantly, come back to the individual graziers. ultimately it will result in more money to There are two elements that will producers. I commend these amendments determine whether the industry receives the and the Bill to the House. full economic benefit from these amendments Mr ROWELL (Hinchinbrook—NPA) to the Brands Act. The first one, of (4.30 p.m.): I rise to speak on the Primary course—and the one that one cannot argue Industries Legislation Amendment Bill. with when it occurs—is the extra income from Certainly a wide range of issues are addressed its customers, from the people who buy hides, in this Bill. I will first speak about the national through the improved hide quality that will vendors declaration, which I think is quite result from these amendments. The market important. This voluntary declaration enables itself is understandably sceptical about claims beef producers to give a clear indication of the from the suppliers who demand a higher price types of chemicals being used. In the past we because of supposed improved quality. That is have experienced great difficulty in selling into so because they have seen examples of some of our overseas markets. I remember supplier practice and a reluctance to change. the Americans bailing up in one instance Promotion of changes to the branding because of the nature of the pesticides being regulations for their main markets will be an used. I think this voluntary system will work important factor in overcoming any scepticism particularly well and will be of great benefit to that exists with buyers. When the buyers see the industry. that the product is good, they will give great credibility to claims of improved quality. I know that there has been cooperation with some of the other primary The producers themselves—the producers—certainly the sugar industry. We graziers—are the ones who have to take once used BHC dust to control cane grubs, but positive action to add value to their herd. The it was quite disturbing to find BHC dust in the marketing system for hides as it now exists carcasses of beef that had been grazing in does not reward producers who have good nearby fields and so on. That was very 3430 Primary Industries Legislation Amendment Bill 19 Nov 1998 detrimental to our ability to sell on our export branded on the ribs and those that are not. markets. Some value adding will occur in relation to the The use of pesticides is sometimes used sale of a beast that has not been branded. as a trade barrier by some of the countries we I move on to the City of Brisbane Market deal with, but I think the cattle industry has to Act 1960. The report of a review carried out by come to terms with it. If the industry believes it the Brisbane Market Authority Review can go along with voluntary declarations and Committee was handed to the previous save quite a bit of work in determining how Government. It is extremely important that we clear a carcass is of any pesticides used from deal with the issue of exclusivity at the Rocklea time to time, I think that will be of great benefit. markets. When the original Bill was introduced, I move on to the Brands Act. The coalition it was certainly in the best interests of does not support the banning of rib branding. I marketing throughout the Brisbane area that am well aware that the Beef Industry there be only one market, but times are Development Advisory Committee worked on changing. this issue for some time. There was some I think the Government also has to realise support for the cessation of cheek branding. that this $1 billion industry that has now There is little question of that. Rib branding developed in Queensland has to change with has been carried on by the grazing industry the times. I know that the Government is very over a long period. Sometimes rib branding is interested in some form of rationalisation of more appropriate and it is easier to see a those markets. I am not sure that some of the beast on a semitrailer if it has brands on the changes it intends to implement are in the ribs as opposed to on the twist, the best interests of markets in Queensland in the hindquarters or wherever. The industry has future. I believe that, as we move to a worked with this system over a long period. doubling of the capacity of the horticultural The systems currently in place are the easiest industry in this State, we will see a great to work with. proportion of that increase go to exports. I I heard the member for Kallangur speak believe we have to have a market that has the about hides and value adding, and that should capacity to cater for that situation. happen in many instances. The market reality The cessation date for exclusivity has is that Coles, Woolworths, Australian Meat been deemed to be 31 August 1999. A five- Holdings and so on are out to screw as much year extension for lessees at the market is as they can out of producers and give them as available. I understand that they have the little as they can in return. They really do not option of moving. There has been some recognise all the other good things producers interest on the part of many of the wholesalers may be doing. I think that is where the industry at Rocklea in moving out of that market really has difficulty at this time. I think the system. I do not think that will be a plus for industry wants proof that there is value adding Queensland's horticultural industry. I believe in the cessation of rib branding. we need one main market in the Brisbane I believe that the DPI needs to look area. If the Government starts to dictate to closely at alternative methods. I know there those agents out at the market, they may has been a lot of input to updating technology move into an area that they feel more in relation to the future of branding. There has comfortable with. I think the Minister should been a lot of talk about transponders, which take that on board. enable a whole host of information to be There is a whole range of other issues in recorded, being placed either in the ruminant these amendments. Certainly the sawmilling or in the ear of cattle. One of the problems situation has to be addressed. There are also with this is cost. Until it is very cheap and very some amendments relating to the QLMA. I easy to do, I do not think the cattle industry will believe there is general support for the Bill, depart from a lot of its principles and traditions other than on the issue of rib branding. in relation to branding. Generally, the things that have been brought A clear skin with no or few impediments before this House are important to horticulture, would be great—certainly fire branding does the beef industry, the grain industry, the not achieve that—but I think the grazier really sawmilling industry and so on right throughout wants the option of branding or not branding this State. his cattle, which may be reflected in the Mr PEARCE (Fitzroy—ALP) (4.39 p.m.): I marketplace. I say "may be" because there is rise to speak in support of the Bill before the no clear determination. I do not believe House, the Primary Industries Legislation anyone has come up with a differentiation Amendment Bill. As has been outlined by the between the value of those cattle that are Minister for Primary Industries, this Bill makes a 19 Nov 1998 Primary Industries Legislation Amendment Bill 3431 number of useful legislative changes to several Mr Seeney: This isn't a motion of Bills in this important portfolio. confidence. What about the Bill? Before going any further, I thought it Mr PEARCE: I am about to talk to the Bill. might be interesting to reflect just for a The honourable member for Callide should moment on the Minister's record in Primary follow the same principles when he is on his Industries. Over the past four months, the feet. I was going to speak to three of the Minister has shown a tremendous interest in amendments that are contained within this Bill, and empathy with rural producers in this State. namely, the amendments to the City of He has been praised across-the-board for his Brisbane Market Act 1960 and the Forestry Act consultative approach and his open mind on 1959. However, because of time constraints, I issues. He is prepared to listen, he is prepared will make a few comments about the to go out into the country, and he is prepared amendments to the Agricultural Standards Act to talk. I believe that one of the main reasons 1949. for this praise comes from the Minister's There have been a number of serious willingness to make decisions when the threats to access to overseas markets over the interests of rural Queenslanders are at stake. past 25 years as a result of various incidents of That willingness is becoming well known across avoidable chemical residue contamination in Queensland. I am, of course, alluding to the beef. This is an important issue to me, infamous back paddock. In the back paddock, because not only do I have the beef industry the National Party kept all the issues that were in my electorate, I have the cotton industry too hard for it to handle. It left important and other grain-growing industries that use reviews, such as the dairy review, out in the pesticides from time to time. This is a big back paddock, incomplete. concern to everybody involved in agriculture Mr Rowell interjected. and primary industries in my electorate. Mr Pearce: Members of the National Nationally, the cattle industry has Party left them in the back paddock, down acknowledged the need to deal with this behind the trees, and did nothing about them. problem in order to maintain our access to vital They left other important issues, like the fate of markets in Europe, Asia and the United the Brisbane Markets, unresolved. Where did States. The ability of our cattle industry to they leave that? Down in the back paddock— avoid this problem has been hampered, in unresolved! The member knows that, and that part, because of the absence of vendor is why he is so sensitive. They left important declaration and vendor liability arrangements industries, like meat processing, out on a limb. when cattle are traded. The industry's And they left important legislative response to these concerns has been a amendments, like those to the Brands Act, voluntary declaration system: the National languish. All were left in the big back Vendor Declaration (Cattle). In this system, paddock—down the back behind the trees. sellers make and supply declarations about Out of sight, out of mind! the chemical treatments and history of their A Government member: Getting bigger sale cattle. Therefore, a producer may indicate whether or not a beast has been treated with every day. hormonal growth promotants, or HGPs. Mr PEARCE: It gets bigger every day. Members would be aware that the European The Minister for Primary Industries is de- Union takes a very hard line on cattle treated stocking the Nationals' back paddock. with HGP. This system is now widely used in Gradually, the Minister is bringing forward all the cattle industry. those things that members opposite left in the This Bill contains amendments to give this back paddock. He is taking them out into system some teeth and to promote confidence Queensland. He is dealing with them. He is in, and give rigour to what is a voluntary getting on with the job. That is why the people system. What the Bill does, in essence, is of rural Queensland have a lot of respect for create a new offence for sellers or vendors of him. Members know that I have a big rural stock making false declarations. I believe that electorate, and the Minister has a lot of the industry is pretty clean at the moment. respect out there. I saw him sit down the other Unfortunately, there will always be people who day in front of a local authority, and he took all are prepared to take a risk. We cannot afford the notes himself. He did not get somebody to create an environment that allows people to else to do that, and they were very impressed do that, because it puts at risk the cattle by that. I believe that the Minister is having a industry in this State. It is so important to us big impact, and I am very pleased to be a that we cannot allow people to take that risk. member of his committee. But people will take a risk if they think that they 3432 Primary Industries Legislation Amendment Bill 19 Nov 1998 can get away with it. And if they do get caught, In the part of western Queensland that I the penalty is not severe enough. represent, we have large commercial These representations must relate to operations. Members of the Stock Squad specific wholesomeness and product integrity make inspections, and they certainly look for issues. Regulations made under the Act will brands on cattle. In big lots of cattle, they like provide details of the stock species and the to see a brand that is easily identifiable. On specific issues to which the penalty provisions most occasions it is on the ribs or the rump. A will apply. The Bill also increases penalties company like Stanbroke Pastoral Company will under the Agricultural Standards Act to a level brand 106,000 calves a year. I know that that currently commensurate with the seriousness company is branding on the rump. The of the offences involved. That is what I was Australian Agricultural Company brands trying to explain a couple of minutes ago. 110,000 calves a year. Where they brand their cattle should be the prerogative of those big These amendments are practical companies. solutions to a problem which has been identified as potentially costing Australia export What proof is there for people in the income. The changes are supported by the industry that they are going to be better cattle industry, and I urge members to also advantaged by branding their cattle other than support them. As I said, there were other on the ribs? Yes, I totally oppose the cheek issues that I wanted to speak about, but time brand. As far as I am concerned, it is blatantly does not permit. I support the Bill before the cruel, and I will not have it in any way, shape House. or form. I know from State conferences and that sort of thing that some members of my Mr JOHNSON (Gregory—NPA) party or the party hierarchy want the (4.45 p.m.): Whereas the Opposition supports prerogative to be able to say where they want the legislation, the Opposition does not to brand their cattle. Some of them want support the aspect of the legislation regarding cheek branding retained, but I outlaw it. I the branding of cattle, whereby the Minister is believe that it is cruel, and I will not wear it. trying to eliminate the rib factor. Being a cattleman, and having been in the industry for I believe that this is another attack on all of my life, I believe that this is another ploy industry. I say to Government members: being by bureaucracy of which we have to be very a cattleman, I believe that it is the prerogative careful. of cattle producers to be able to brand their beasts where they want to—whether it be the Many people are not familiar with the rump, the ribs or the shoulder. I know that my cattle industry. Small operators might not want neighbour at Quilpie—the late Colin Watts— to brand their cattle on the ribs; they might always branded his cattle on the ribs. No doubt want to brand them on the shoulder or on the his sons brand their cattle on the ribs today. I rump. But because a bullock is branded on the can still see that old familiar "CL6" brand. It rump or the shoulder, that does not mean to stood out and was easily identifiable. In large say that the brand is on the end of the hide; it areas where there are huge numbers of cattle, is a long way back inside the hide—the same it is paramount that cattle are easily as a rib brand. I trust that the Minister will listen identifiable. to what I have to say. I am talking about big commercial operators. I am also talking about Again, that brings me back to the security operators in the industry like my colleagues the factor. Some brands are not very clear on the honourable member for Crows Nest and the rump. I know that some are not very clear on honourable member for Burnett, who are cattle the shoulder. It is the prerogative of the producers. And there are smaller operators producers to brand those cattle where they than them around. like. If members can prove to me that value It is absolutely paramount that it be the adding will be beneficial down the track, I will prerogative of the producers as to where they listen to them. At the end of day, no more brand their cattle. When the DPI issue a damage is done by branding on the ribs than brand, they will usually stipulate a position. But on the rump or the shoulder. if there are five or six neighbours and they all I ask the Minister to please listen to me. I brand on the rump, the cattle are not easily request that he give consideration to Russell identifiable. If somebody brands on the rump, Cooper's amendment to reinsert the rib somebody brands on the ribs and somebody branding provision. I believe that it has to be brands on the shoulders, those brands are retained. In conjunction with the Northern easily identifiable—whether it be by the owner Territory, Queensland is one of the largest of the cattle, the ringer who is handling the cattle-producing States of the Commonwealth. cattle, or the agent who is selling the cattle. We have large commercial herds. Cattle 19 Nov 1998 Primary Industries Legislation Amendment Bill 3433 producing has been a way of life for positioning and livestock identification are Queensland. I ask the Minister not to remove basically straightforward. I have a serious a practice that the industry has engaged in concern that once rib branding is phased out, since time immemorial. Many people have had rump branding will also be targeted. I agree one branding position for generations. The totally with the rejection of cheek branding as I branding positioning prerogative should be have always considered the practice to be retained. I fear that the next thing we know inhumane and unnecessary. I support the cattle producers will not be able to brand on Minister's six initiatives and believe that the the shoulder; they will be able to brand only on industry will respond favourably to those the rump. I fear that the rump will then be changes, especially if processors are eliminated and cattle producers will be able to encouraged to pay a premium for high-quality brand only the twist. I fear that, before too hides. I remind the House that the six long, we will not be branding at all. That would initiatives are: eliminate the rib and cheek create absolute anarchy and chaos in the branding positions; include the twist as a new industry. branding position; include the thigh as a separate branding position; allow branding on I plead with the Minister to take on board any angle; eliminate the mandatory order of Russell Cooper's amendment and reinsert into branding; and allow flexible placement of age his legislation the prerogative to rib brand. It is numerals and stud references in any of the paramount for the industry to have those three positions available to them. I plead with the prescribed branding positions. Minister to retain that provision. So far as I can ascertain, currently the cattle producer receives no more for his Mr KNUTH (Burdekin—ONP) (4.51 p.m.): I product whether the hide is in poor or excellent commend the Minister for the time and effort condition, so there is little incentive to brand in that he has no doubt committed to positions where livestock identification is made researching the issues addressed in the more difficult. The idea of branding vertically amendment Bill before the House. The down the leg may seem reasonable from a industry alone must not be blamed for residue processor's viewpoint, but the Minister should incidents in the past as Governments have consider the position of a producer who has allowed those chemicals to be obtained and 1,000 head in the yards and is attempting to used with little or no training or regulation. The identify cattle for market or record-keeping chemicals responsible for the situations in purposes. To confuse the issue further, which Australia's beef industry was placed in straying cattle from neighbouring properties will jeopardy on world markets have, in the main, be virtually impossible to identify in large been replaced by environmentally friendly yardings or in paddock situations. On my products and are now illegal. The National family's cattle properties, there is a Vendor Declaration program, together with gentlemen's agreement that, if the cattle cross beef residue testing programs at all export into another property, they are rounded up facilities, has proven effective since its and—most of the time—they are given back. introduction. The vertical branding procedure would make I am not entirely opposed to a penalty that very difficult. A lot of the Burdekin River system being introduced to complement the frontages are not fenced off. It is impossible to declaration process, but I am greatly fence off some of those properties, because in concerned that a producer may be treated like the wet season we can have 100 inches of a criminal and fined up to $7,500 at the whim rain. That must be taken into consideration. of a magistrate or judge. A recent case in Changing branding habits may be Townsville in which a highly regarded cattle convenient for the processors but may producer was fined heavily for selling one inconvenience the grazier. If the amendment animal in a group that he stated had not been is passed, I would like to see at least a form of treated with growth hormones highlights my compensation provided at the saleyards for point. If a producer buys stock in good faith the huge disruption to the pastoral practices. and is then fined because of somebody else's Mrs LIZ CUNNINGHAM (Gladstone—IND) dishonesty, that is a great injustice and one (4.56 p.m.): I will comment on three elements against which he has no protection. 100 of the Bill. The first element is the penalty units is too severe a penalty. If that corporatisation of the Brisbane Markets. A penalty were reduced by half, it would still have couple of years ago, there was some the desired effect without impacting too heavily discussion about privatisation of the markets. I on an already embattled industry. would like to commend the Minister for the fact The issues that the Minister has raised that that has not proceeded. For horticulturists regarding the current branding methods, brand in my area the spectre of privatisation was 3434 Primary Industries Legislation Amendment Bill 19 Nov 1998 quite concerning because of the risk of amendments that have been circulated to give increased costs to market their products. I that assurance to producers. commend the Minister for his undertaking to Some comment has been made about retain the Rocklea markets in public ownership. the $20m that has been allocated to the That is a huge step forward for our product Queensland meat processing development growers. initiative. I know that there has been a The second element is the continuation suggestion that part of that money could be for 12 months of the exemption under the allocated to develop a process whereby the Forestry Act. I have a small but very important people who benefit in the end, that is the hide timber industry in the top part of my electorate. sellers, are obligated to give a return to the That industry relies on allocations from the hide producers. Unless there is an obligation Government for part of its product. That 12 established, human nature being what it is, the months will allow time for the RFA for our area sellers of the hides will say to the Government, to be finalised and for some staged and "Thank you very much. You have obligated managed change if those allocations have to those wasters not to brand in the middle of the change. There is a small community in that hide so we are going to get a better product to area and it relies heavily on its timber industry. sell. But tough luck, we have not had to pay That community will die if that industry is them in the past and we are not going to pay removed. I value that extension on their them in the future." Unless there is an behalf. obligation on the processors of the hides to pay the producers, it is not going to happen The last element—and one that is and a lot of Queensland producers are going probably more confusing than anything else to be as angry as hornets. because of the diversity of opinion involved—is the issue of branding. I took some advice from I wonder whether the Minister has any a number of industry groups that I thought plans to ensure that a rate of return is were reflective of the industry. I have since established for producers from the processors, been advised by a number of people that they perhaps through a system that is developed are not. I did not ring the Cattlemen's Union, through the QMPDI. I seek the Minister's but I spoke to representatives of the UGA and comment on that. I am at a bit of a loss on this BIDAC. They said that the prohibition of rib issue because, as I said, I had accepted that branding was a step in the right direction. I those producer groups represented the thank the Minister for his briefing. Advisers producers in Queensland. Yet I have heard from the department gave me a briefing on various points of view from members of this the dairy and primary industries Bills. I asked Chamber that they do not; the UGA and the the Minister's adviser what return there would CU represent perhaps only 20% of growers. If be for cattlemen for changing what has been that is the case, then it is not a fair sampling or an historical process. I am excluding cheek a fair representation of the growers in this branding. That is barbaric. It should never State. have occurred. The advice that I was given Again, a lot of that pain would be reduced was that over time there would be a rate of if the producers knew categorically that there return to producers if they changed their herd- will be a return on their changed management practices. I asked them the time methodologies, that the processors will be period involved and I was told 10 years. obligated to pay them for their hides. I seek If I were a producer and I was being the Minister's comment on that. required under legislation to change a practice Mr SEENEY (Callide—NPA) (5.01 p.m.): today—the legislation may be declared in Initially, I would like to commend the member March next year—and I had to wait 10 years for Gladstone for the obvious thought and before I received a rate of return on that effort that she has put into understanding this changed practice, I would not be terribly subject. Realistically, I suppose this issue is impressed at all. It may take 10 years for going to be decided along party lines and the breeders to be turned out, but a normal beast votes of the Independents are going to be is turned off the farm within three years. important. In that regard, the effort that the Therefore, in reasonable weather, cattlemen member for Gladstone has made to should be seeing a reasonable rate of return understand this issue stands in stark contrast for those hides within three years. They are to the efforts of the other Independent, who paid nothing now. I acknowledge that. The has not even taken the time to come into the hide sellers must give a clear undertaking that Chamber and listen to this debate. No doubt, they will give a rate of return to the producers. in a very short time he will vote on the subject There is nothing in the Bill and nothing in the that will—or has the potential at least—cause a 19 Nov 1998 Primary Industries Legislation Amendment Bill 3435 lot of disruption to a big section of take away from the individual. It really is a Queensland's cattle industry. That is really not decision about whether or not this is a role for the way that it should be done. legislators. I certainly do not believe that it is. I will limit my remarks to this Bill to the Mr STEPHAN (Gympie—NPA) proposed changes to the Brands Act. I can (5.06 p.m.): In joining this debate, I wish to really only reinforce what has been said by refer to the clauses of the Bill that relate to fruit previous speakers, especially the shadow and vegetable markets. I warn that, although Minister for Primary Industries, the member for direct selling is becoming very important for a Crows Nest. The issue comes down to whether lot of areas of the industry, there is nothing to or not the Government should legislate for this be gained when the producers become price or it should be left to the market to pay more takers rather than price setters. I hope that the for hides of greater value. Obviously, we on amendments in this legislation do not affect in this side of the House do not believe that this any way the amount of money that the is an issue that should be legislated. I certainly producers would be receiving for their product. believe that the easiest way to bring about a They are at the end of the line now in terms of change in any practice is to offer a monetary getting a return on their product and I would reward to the people involved or, alternatively, like to think that producers continue to set the to apply a monetary penalty to those who prices for their products. persist with the practice that is causing a devaluation of a particular product. The industry is very well organised and there is no doubt that that has been of benefit This issue has been a longstanding bone to the producers. However, in the past week or of contention in the cattle industry. For a long two the issue of commercial sellers being time producers have felt that they are not properly licensed has been raised in terms of getting any of the right market signals, or any those sellers being able to meet certain of the right encouragement to increase the requirements to ensure that they get a value of their product across the whole range sufficient return for the produce and do not go of their product, but particularly in terms of out the back door. Commercial sellers are hides. I supplied the one processing works that required to be properly licensed, to provide the put in place a trial system to pay producers for appropriate fidelity bond, to maintain their hides according to their value. I join with prescribed accounting records and be audited the member for Crows Nest in expressing my annually so that they can sustain their disappointment that that trial never proceeded. businesses. It was really market pressure from the other processors who refused to follow the lead that We must make sure that that occurs at the time was taken by the South Burnett because we need commercial sellers to access Co-op that led to that initiative falling by the overseas markets, which we are doing much wayside. more than we were, say, three or four years ago. There is a big demand for our fruit and We do not need legislation passed in this vegetables in China, Japan and Malaysia, so it place that tells the cattle producers of is also important that our producers have the Queensland, "We think this is what is good for ability to produce a very fine article for their you so, therefore, you have to do it." We need clients overseas. I certainly want to make sure a value-based marketing system for hides that that the Minister notes that. At times, it is very encourages practices that will bring about the difficult for producers to satisfactorily harvest a increase in returns about which the member crop, even though they have been going for Kallangur spoke, even though I suggest through the process for a long time and they that he did not know a lot of what he was know what they are doing. talking about. Given that that sort of system can be For example, in the past week or so, flying foxes have been causing havoc with the stone brought about, it then becomes a choice for the producer. There are a number of reasons fruit crops on the Sunshine Coast. The whole why a producer would choose to brand in a area was producing well until the flying foxes particular place. However, those reasons came in and, almost overnight, wiped out the belong to the individual producer. He or she crop. I do not know what can be done about can choose to decide whether or not the loss that. I am merely highlighting the problems in value for their particular product is worth the that producers face from time to time. They maintenance of that practice. That is very really need to be protected whenever possible. much a personal choice and it should be a I thank the House for the opportunity to personal choice. It is a choice that I do not make this contribution. During the debate on believe we as legislators need to or should the clauses of the Bill, I will ask the Minister 3436 Primary Industries Legislation Amendment Bill 19 Nov 1998 about what is happening in relation to the However, in the Committee stage of the Bill we markets. will move to delete proposed new section Mr WELLINGTON (Nicklin—IND) 14A(3)(f). (5.11 p.m.): In speaking to the Primary One Nation supports some of the Industries Regulation Amendment Bill, I will proposed changes to the Brands Act 1915. limit my comments only to the part of the Bill We believe that cheek branding is that relates to the amendments to the Brands unacceptable from an animal welfare point of Act 1915. This is the area of prime concern view. It is a very cruel and unwarranted that has been raised with me by interested method of branding. The elimination of the parties. In particular, I acknowledge the practice is a step in the right direction. submission that I received from the I am well aware of the damage done to Queensland Beef Industry Development hides by branding, especially rib branding Advisory Council. Also, this evening I listened which damages the prime area of the hide. to the comments and concerns relating to the The elimination of rib branding would be of proposed amendments to the Brands Act that considerable benefit to the hide industry. I were raised by both Government and sincerely hope that that benefit would be Opposition speakers. passed back to cattle producers through I recognise that the amendments to the increased prices for stock. Until that happens, I Brands Act 1915 prohibit the branding of the will not support this proposal. However, if cattle on the cheek and ribs, and include the returns to producers were increased, certainly new branding positions of the twist and the the addition of extra branding positions in the thigh. I am not confident that the twist and the lower-value areas of the hide would further thigh will prove very successful as alternative minimise losses to the industry from hide branding positions. Notwithstanding this, I note damage. that the Bill allows branding on any angle and In relation to the City of Brisbane Market that cattle branding is still approved in the Act 1960, I believe that opportunities for a positions of the rump, the shoulder and the more diverse wholesale marketing structure will neck. In light of the above alternative positions lead to price benefits for fruit and vegetable for branding, I am prepared to support the growers. Any initiative that encourages amendments to the Brands Act 1915 and the improved returns will be beneficial to whole amendments to other related Acts contained communities. Most small croppers are family- in the Bill. owned businesses and to improve their returns Dr PRENZLER (Lockyer—ONP) will have flow-on benefits for their local (5.12 p.m.): I have only a few comments to communities. make on the Primary Industries Legislation Amendments to the Forestry Act 1959 will Amendment Bill. The Bill addresses some provide continued log supply to millers. Given issues that are important to the long-term the importance of this industry to so many viability of the beef industry—an industry that is Queensland regional centres, the amendment so vitally important to the economic wellbeing deserves our support. of the State and the nation. Hon. H. PALASZCZUK (Inala—ALP) In relation to amendments to the (Minister for Primary Industries) (5.15 p.m.), in Agricultural Standards Act 1994, whilst I have reply: I commend the Primary Industries no doubt that we must take whatever Legislation Amendment Bill 1998 to the measures are absolutely necessary to protect House. The Bill makes amendments to a our export markets, including stringent number of Acts and most of those measures to avoid pesticide residue problems, amendments are uncontroversial. However, I must admit to having some concerns about the amendments to the Brands Act have proposed new section 14A(3)(f), which I caused a lot of consternation amongst believe has embedded in it the potential to honourable members opposite. broaden the scope of the clause and include The issue of branding practices in unnecessarily onerous conditions in relation to Queensland and their impact on the value of quality assurance considerations. In our hides is not new. Indeed, this issue has arisen country today, many family-operated cattle throughout most of the century. Each time it producing enterprises are, at best, marginal. has been raised, a handful of traditionalists Again, I emphasise that we must acknowledge have stopped the change, despite the fact the importance of protecting export markets, that it would have benefited most producers. but we also have an obligation to protect cattle Indeed, this amendment has the support of producers from unnecessary and unaffordable the Cattlemen's Union and the United Graziers cost imposts. One Nation will support the Bill. Association. It is those groups that want these 19 Nov 1998 Primary Industries Legislation Amendment Bill 3437 changes introduced. The Beef Industry I turn now to the contributions of Development Advisory Council also supports honourable members. I believe the these changes. honourable member for Crows Nest is in However, last year that was not enough agreement with most of the Bill with the for the National Party. Amendments were exception of the provisions in relation to the proposed, but they were pulled by the Brands Act. I am sure that he will raise those Government. I well remember the debate issues during the Committee stage. The when the amendments that were supposed to honourable member for Kallangur made an be introduced were pulled at the last minute. I enlightened contribution to the debate on the was amazed about that, because those legislation this afternoon. The honourable amendments had the full support of the cattle member for Gregory, being a cattle producer, industry. certainly knew what he was speaking about. He made an impassioned plea on behalf of In contrast, this Government puts these producers. However, I think he has missed the amendments forward on behalf of the industry boat in relation to the Brands Act. and on behalf of Queensland. I have found a The honourable member for Burdekin letter, written by the Prime Minister of Australia raised a couple of interesting issues. In relation to the Premier of Queensland, complaining of to false declarations, I point out that one the lost revenue from bad branding practices. cannot be fined for making a mistake. The It was sent from the Prime Minister's office in legislation states that a person must know that Melbourne, not Canberra. The letter is dated the declaration was false. Also, 100 penalty 18 November 1918—80 years ago yesterday. units is the maximum fine only, and It is a pity that the Bill did not come up magistrates rarely apply the maximum fine for yesterday. In that letter, the then acting Prime a first-time offence. Minister stated— The honourable member for Gladstone "Upwards of two million cattle are raised a number of issues. The first concerned slaughtered annually in the the income flowing to producers in relation to Commonwealth, and as the majority of the 10-year term, and the advice she claimed these are badly branded, it will be readily she received from the advisers last week. I realised that the sum of money thus lost think there was a bit of a misunderstanding on to the country is very considerable." behalf of the honourable member for The letter concludes— Gladstone in relation to the reference to 10 years. The point was made that until all "I should be glad, therefore, if you would be so good as to consider the animals currently branded on ribs are cycled question of taking action to prevent hides out of the system—and that takes up to 10 being damaged through the causes years for a breeder—the full value of these amendments will not be realised. Buyers need referred to." to be confident that no rib-branded cattle are Will we have to wait another 80 years for the still in the system before they start to pay the Brands Act to be amended? Will we have to top dollar. wait another 80 years for action to be taken to In respect of the questions from the improve the value of Queensland hides? Will member for Gladstone about the money from we have to wait another 80 years to give our the QMPDI towards meat processing, I inform hard-pressed producers this new source of the honourable member that the Queensland revenue? Will we have to wait another 80 Meat Processing Industry Task Force, which years for the National Party to start acting in was announced by the Honourable Deputy the interests of the cattle industry as a whole, Premier and me in October, will work with instead of a few of its narrow-minded industry to identify industries for industry supporters? The answer to those questions is development and improvement. This will no. include support for value adding and new I believe that this Government is acting in product development. As part of this, the the best interests of the cattle industry. We are Queensland Meat Processing Development not beholden to special interest groups. We Initiative will provide the meat processing are not afraid to make the changes that are industry with funding of up to $20m. I will leave needed and we are not afraid to act. We will it at that. If the honourable member wants to not let this intolerable situation drag on for take up the issue further with me during the another 80 years. I throw down the gauntlet to Committee stage, I am happy for her to do so. honourable members opposite: do the right The honourable member for Callide raised thing. some interesting issues in relation to the 3438 Primary Industries Legislation Amendment Bill 19 Nov 1998

Brands Act. In his contribution, the honourable regulatory rigour to the system by penalising member for Nicklin showed a keen interest in those who attempt to defraud the system. The the branding issue. He has obviously been feedlot industry has supported this move, and very well briefed on the issue by the interested I believe that the honourable member's parties. The honourable member for Gympie concerns are ill-conceived and unfounded. spoke about the removal of exclusivity giving Mr PRENZLER: If that is the way the producers more flexibility in order to pursue Minister would like to go, he should have spelt better returns and alternative sale points. I out those conditions more accurately in his Bill. believe that is a very important point. Consequently, I will persist with my Removing exclusivity from the markets is very amendment. important, and that will occur probably some time around the middle of next year. That will Question—That the member for Lockyer's allow the Brisbane Market Authority to trade amendment be agreed to—put; and the where it is. However, it will allow another player Committee divided— to come into the markets if it so desires. AYES, 9—Black, Dalgleish, Feldman, Kingston, Mr Stephan interjected. Nelson, Prenzler, Turner, Tellers: Knuth, Paff NOES, 66—Attwood, Beanland, Beattie, Bligh, Mr PALASZCZUK: It could be anything. It Boyle, Braddy, Bredhauer, Briskey, Connor, Cooper, could be another market, provided somebody E. A. Cunningham, J. I. Cunningham, Davidson, has the money to operate another market. It Elder, Elliott, Fenlon, Foley, Fouras, Gamin, Grice, could be a market similar to the Melbourne Hamill, Hayward, Healy, Hegarty, Hobbs, Hollis, People's Markets or the Sydney Markets. We Horan, Johnson, Laming, Lavarch, Lester, Lingard, could have another market such as those Littleproud, Lucas, Mackenroth, McGrady, Mickel, operating somewhere in Brisbane. That could Musgrove, Nelson-Carr, Nuttall, Palaszczuk, Pearce, happen. Purcell, Quinn, Reeves, Reynolds, Roberts, Robertson, Rose, Rowell, Santoro, Schwarten, Motion agreed to. Seeney, Sheldon, Simpson, Slack, Spence, Springborg, Stephan, Struthers, Veivers, Wellington, Wells, Wilson. Tellers: Sullivan, Baumann Committee Pairs: Gibbs, Mitchell; Barton, Malone; D'Arcy, Hon. H. PALASZCZUK (Inala—ALP) Pratt; Edmond, Borbidge; Welford, Watson; (Minister for Primary Industries) in charge of Mulherin, Goss the Bill. Resolved in the negative. Clauses 1 to 7, as read, agreed to. Clause 8, as read, agreed to. Clause 8— Clauses 9 to 11, as read, agreed to. Dr PRENZLER (5.25 p.m.): I move the Clause 12— following amendment— "At page 8, line 19— Mr COOPER (5.36 p.m.): I move the following amendment— omit." "At page 10, after line 3— I believe that the inclusion of this provision will potentially lead to unnecessary or onerous insert— conditions being added to the vendor's '(aa) ribs;'." declaration forms at the whim of bureaucrats. Mrs LIZ CUNNINGHAM: I have a follow- Often these onerous types of conditions can up question on the amendment just moved by have a detrimental impact on the viability of the member for Crows Nest. I heard his producers. I believe this is an unnecessary response about an undertaking to give addition to the vendor's declaration form, and producers some return on a change of process my amendment will remove that provision from as far as branding positions is concerned. One the Bill. of the arguments against prohibiting rib Mr PALASZCZUK: I can understand from branding is that the processors could adopt a which direction the honourable member for grading system so that the hides that are Lockyer is coming. However, it is very branded external to the ribs are A-grade hides important that the ability to make regulations and perhaps those with rib brands would be to accommodate new initiatives from industry regarded as B-grade hides and the producers under this scheme is enacted. For example, in would be paid accordingly. Without legislative relation to declarations about feedlot cattle, intervention by this Parliament, an incentive the marketing of feedlot cattle relies on such a would be created for producers to change their declaration system administered by AUSMEAT methodology. and by AQIS. Both support adding some An Opposition member interjected. 19 Nov 1998 Primary Industries Legislation Amendment Bill 3439

Mrs LIZ CUNNINGHAM: I know. At the traditions broken down in these last 10 or 20 moment, producers get paid nothing. That was years. I think people are sick and tired of suggested as an alternative to this Parliament having their traditions broken down and intervening in what is an industry issue. I seek replaced with something of dubious value—in the Minister's response to what difficulties this case, no value. there would be with the processors grading Mr Seeney: No value. their hides and providing that incentive without us legislating for it. Mr COOPER: There is no value because no-one is giving any guarantee whatsoever Mr PALASZCZUK: The reason why this that the producer is going to get a cent. We amendment to the Brands Act has been have heard so often, whether it be in relation brought before the Parliament is that there has to milk supply or whatever, that the processors been an impasse between the processors and and the big three get all the benefit. They get the producers for years. It is that impasse that the lot and the producers get nothing. In this has not allowed the producers to make money case the processor will get the lot. The from their hides. There are different times producers will get nothing, as usual. They will when Governments have to take action and get the inconvenience of having to change the be interventionist. It is this occasion that this brand to a slot that someone tells them to, Government is being interventionist to break despite the fact that they have been doing it that impasse so that we can get a dialogue this way for generations, as I said. I ask between the producers and the processors to members to take that into account when put in train a program or a system whereby making decisions in this place. For a start, we processors will be able to get a return from will refer producers to Government members their hides. In a nutshell, that is the reason when they refuse to stand by them. We will why this amendment to this Act has been make sure we stand by them, because introduced. obviously nobody else will. Mr COOPER: The issue itself has been We recently had a party conference in canvassed pretty well here today, but I want to Toowoomba. It was said very clearly, "We are make the position very, very clear. It is sick and tired of being told by bureaucrats and interesting to know that the speakers on the others from on high what we can and cannot other side of the House as well as the member do. Soon we will need a licence to breed. for Nicklin, I believe, have probably never had Soon we will be told what colour car we have any experience with cattle in their lives. They to buy. Soon we will be told what colour cattle have probably never had cattle as a livelihood we have to brand. Then we will be told where and have never been involved to that extent. we can brand them. That will take away the Yet the people on this side of the Chamber things we have had for so long. We are sick of who have been speaking in concern about this it—fed up to the back teeth." We are standing Bill do have experience in that area and have by the producers and saying that we will try to been involved in it for generations. It is not have branding in the rib position retained until something that we know nothing about. such time as it can be proven that there is an economic value in not doing it. We will try to This is the very thing that I said in the first make it an incentive-based change so that the place. This is law being made by people who producers themselves can make the decision, do not take into account those who are along with the processors. affected and those who understand the way that they are affected. I know that members If producers and processors want to strike opposite have mentioned the Cattlemen's a deal along these lines, that is fine. They will Union, the UGA, BIDAC and those other make the decision together. For Big Brother to organisations, who have come out in favour of tell them from this place is not on. Government this Bill. But there are thousands of producers members say that they stand up for the little out there who are not members of those bloke. We will soon test them, because I organisations. Someone needs to represent intend to divide on this proposal. We will then them, and we intend to do that. We intend to see where the Government stands. stand by those people because they are the Mr WELLINGTON: The member for Crows ones who are affected by this. They may have Nest indicated that he was unsure as to been branding their cattle on the ribs for whether I was involved with the cattle industry. maybe 100 or 150 years. Some bureaucrat For the record, I was raised on a farm and from on high comes along and speaks to them have spent most of my life on a farm. I am a about it. Someone called us traditionalists. farmer. I have never had to brand on the ribs. I You bet I am a traditionalist, and I hope to have always had to brand on the rump and I remain so! We have seen so many of our have never experienced any problems. I am 3440 Primary Industries Legislation Amendment Bill 19 Nov 1998 aware that the member for Crows Nest has for the UGA—its President, Noel Kennedy, its concerns. Sheep and Wool Council of Queensland I seek clarification from the Minister in President, Don Compagnoni, and Mr Hill, the relation to industry support for this measure. I President of the Queensland Cattle Council. I ask the Minister to confirm that this measure do not believe we could have a better has total industry support and is not simply endorsement of the amendments to the something that has been brought on by the current Brands Act than from those three Government of its own volition. highly influential persons. Mrs LIZ CUNNINGHAM: The Minister has I have almost forgotten the question said that this Parliament is intervening asked by the honourable member for because of an impasse between producers Gladstone. I ask her to reiterate it. and processors. That is fine. There has been Mrs LIZ CUNNINGHAM: Given that the no incentive for producers to alter their reason for this Parliament's intervention is the branding positions because there is no return impasse between grower and processor in on the hide. If this Parliament intervenes, what relation to rate of return on a hide, if this incentive will there be for processors to Parliament intervenes and requires producers compensate producers? The decision already to brand on the rump or elsewhere other than will have been made. I seek a comment from the ribs, what incentive will there be for the Minister. processors to pay a rate of return to producers Mr PALASZCZUK: I reassure the for the better grade of hide? honourable member for Nicklin that this Mr PALASZCZUK: That is a very difficult legislation has the full support of the question to answer at this time, of course. Cattlemen's Union, the United Graziers However, I reiterate for the benefit of the Association—two main bodies in cattle grazing Committee that the UGA, the Cattlemen's in Queensland—and the Beef Industry Union, BIDAC and the Cattle Council are all in Development Advisory Council, which support of the change. They must see some encompasses all facets of the beef industry in form of reward coming to the producer in the Queensland. They are unanimous in their short to medium term, otherwise they would support of this amendment. I do not think we not be advocating this change to the Brands could get any greater support from an industry Act. It is as simple as that. anywhere in Queensland than that we are receiving from the Cattlemen's Union, the Mr JOHNSON: I certainly support the United Graziers Association and BIDAC. amendment moved by the shadow Minister to I refer the Committee to comments on the put back into the Act provisions relating to Brands Act amendments by the United branding on the rib. The Minister talks about Graziers Association Queensland Cattle grower representatives and industry leaders. Council President, Mike Hill, who is very highly There are some very competent and regarded in industry circles both in Queensland successful people in those grower and interstate. In the Chinchilla News on 12 organisations, but they do not represent every November Mr Hill is reported as saying— grower in the State. I think the Minister is fully aware of that. "The changes to the approved positions under the Brands Act reflect the Mr Reynolds: And neither do you. increasing attention to the preservation of Mr JOHNSON: What do you know about the hide and its importance as an the issue? Have I heard you speak on this additional source of income for issue this afternoon? You clown! Sit back there producers." and just listen for a minute. What input have Mr Hill's initial comments in that article are very you had into this? There is no room for significant. The opening paragraph of the negativity here and he is absolutely negative. article states— Madam TEMPORARY CHAIRMAN (Dr "Queensland Cattle Council says the Clark): Order! I remind the member that he changes to the brands legislation will should refer to other members in this meet the needs of industry and the Assembly by their correct title. community." Mr JOHNSON: The member for I note that the honourable member for Crows Townsville—call him whatever you like! Nest is a former member of the UGA. I can only assume that the honourable member Mr Reynolds interjected. respects the opinions of the organisation's Madam TEMPORARY CHAIRMAN: Order! leaders, as I do. I have a great deal of respect The member will continue his speech. 19 Nov 1998 Primary Industries Legislation Amendment Bill 3441

Mr JOHNSON: I would like to buy the legislation will presumably give them some sort member at my price and sell him at his. of benefit from a better-quality hide. But there However, I will come back to the clause. is no way known that the benefits from that will I give the Minister credit where credit is flow back to the producer. The industry does due. He has spoken with industry leaders, but not work like that. The processors go out into he has not consulted with everybody in the the marketplace and buy cattle at the lowest industry. For generations, people have been price possible. The fact that they are going to branding on the shoulder, the ribs and the get an extra $20—— rump. I do not brand on the ribs; I brand on Mr Fouras: Do you agree there are the rump. But I have said that there are benefits? people who do brand on the ribs, and they Mr SEENEY: I take that interjection have done it for generations. without even knowing what it is. I do not think As to shoulder branding, some brands the member has a clue. What is he talking float back towards the ribs, some are on the about? point of the shoulder, some are a bit high, and Mr Fouras: Do you think there are some are a bit low. Where does one benefits from that sort of branding? Is that distinguish the actual shoulder to be? It can be what you're saying—there are benefits? anywhere—even on the first or second rib. Will the next amendment be the elimination of the Mr SEENEY: Yes, absolutely there are shoulder brand? That will be the next thing. As benefits in that sort of branding. If the member the shadow Minister rightly said, this is another had been in the Chamber for my contribution invasion on what people have done for and that of other members, he would have generations. The Minister pulled out a letter heard that acknowledged over and over again. that is 80 years old, signed off by somebody. There are benefits in that sort of branding, but Fair comment! I do not care. People have a the way to encourage that practice is to make right to say what they think. a commercial decision about it—for the processor to put in place a system that In relation to the cross-branding of cattle, I commercially rewards the producer who adopts have seen cattle with three or four cross- that. The producer who decides not to adopt it brands on them. In time, will we ban cross- can make that decision as an individual. It is a branding of cattle? Whether it be on the rump, decision for the individual; it is not a decision the rib or the shoulder, that is certainly causing for legislation in this Chamber. It is not the Big a lot more interference with and downgrading Brother type of decision that the member for of the hide. This is a complete invasion on Crows Nest was talking about. There is no way what the industry has been doing for in the world that that type of decision will be generations. I urge the Minister to take on accepted out there in the community. It is a board the shadow Minister's amendment and decision for the individual producer who may restore rib branding to the legislation. wish to brand his cattle on the ribs for whatever Mr SEENEY: I cannot let this debate reason. He might like to use them as an conclude without making some comments advertising billboard for his brand. He may about the point raised by the member for think that that is a better way of identifying Gladstone about any sort of guarantee that them in his particular situation. But that is a the extra value that the processors receive decision for the individual. If he decides to would flow back to the producer. I note that adopt that practice then, given the right the Minister gave the answer that it was a hard commercial signals, he can adopt that and question to answer. Let me assure the Minister accept the commercial loss. The processors that, for anybody who has been involved in the have refused to put that system in place. The cattle industry for any length of time, it is a very Minister is talking about adopting legislation to easy question to answer. The answer is that try to make this sort of practice illegal. The there will be none—just as there has been benefits—whatever they are—will accrue to the none for many years. processor, not the producer. This issue could have been resolved a That is the answer to the question from long time ago but for the intransigence of the the member for Gladstone. It is a very easy processors. The Minister refers to the impasse question to answer for anybody who has been that has developed. There is no impasse at all. in the industry for any length of time. I accept The processors have had 100 years to bring that the Minister for Primary Industries has not into place a system which rewards the had a lot to do with the cattle industry— producers for producing quality product. They coming, as he does, from Inala. I accept that have not done that in respect to hides. They he is making a pretty fair effort to come to have refused to do it in respect to hides. This grips with something that he knows absolutely 3442 Tariff Protection, Sugar Industry 19 Nov 1998 nothing about. I guarantee that every member ignored their requests—as is normal practice on this side of the Chamber who has had these days—and pressed on. anything to do with the industry can assure the The National Competition Policy and Minister that the answer to the question asked those who enforce it are rapidly becoming by the member for Gladstone is: none. There despised and loathed by many of the sections is no guarantee. There is no way known that of society damaged by it. Let us examine the any benefit that may accrue from this views of one of the various industry groups legislation will flow to the producer. The regarding the abolition of the tariff. The benefits will flow to the processor. Australian Cane Farmers Association said that Progress reported. the removal of the sugar tariff was unnecessary as Australia had more than satisfied the requirements of the World Trade SITTING HOURS; ORDER OF BUSINESS Organisation. The association also noted that Hon. T. M. MACKENROTH (Chatsworth— the removal of the tariff would cost ALP) (Leader of the House) (5.57 p.m.), by canefarmers about $30m per year. That would leave, without notice: I move— reach $100m as a result of the multiplier effect. "That notwithstanding anything contained in the Standing and Sessional Why did Canberra single out canefarmers Orders, for this day's sitting, the House for a tariff reduction, when the car industry can continue to meet past 7.30 p.m. escaped, and the textile, clothing and footwear industry won a reprieve? The removal of the Private Members' motions will be sugar tariff has hurt the canefarmers, and it debated between 6 and 7 p.m. has not helped consumers of sugar or sugar Government Business will take products either. The whole idea of the National precedence for the remainder of the day's Competition Policy is to deliver efficiencies that sitting, except for a 30-minute will result in cheaper prices to the consumers. adjournment debate." This is not happening. The retail price of sweets, soft drinks and other products derived Motion agreed to. from sugar have, if anything, increased since the tariffs have been removed. If there has TARIFF PROTECTION, SUGAR INDUSTRY been any benefit from the reduction in the price of raw sugar, it has gone straight into the Dr PRENZLER (Lockyer—ONP) pockets of the processors, distributors and (5.58 p.m.): I move— supermarkets. It has certainly not gone into "That this Parliament press the the pockets of canegrowers or consumers. Federal Government to re-introduce some By removing the sugar tariff, the Federal degree of tariff protection for the sugar Government has cut about $20m per year industry to provide a more secure future from Queensland canefarmers—or about for growers and farm workers." $3,000 on average per year for every I will now speak in support of the motion canegrower in the State—and handed most of that this Parliament should exert pressure on that money to the mostly foreign-owned sugar the Federal Government to reinstate the sugar refineries and the multinational beverage and tariff, or at least some degree of protection for confectionary industry. That money, which may that important industry. The decision to drop not seem very much, is, in fact, very significant the sugar tariff was made by the Sugar when it is no longer circulating in country Industry Review Working Party in order to Queensland where it is so badly needed to comply with the National Competition Policy stimulate our economy and to create more directives and, it would appear, in defiance of jobs, jobs, jobs. What has Queensland gained the majority of submissions made to the review in return for the canegrowers' sacrifice? Is party by sugar industry organisations. The sugar any cheaper? The answer is no. The issue of whether to scrap the sugar tariff also only obvious beneficiary of the tariff abolition is became entangled somehow with the the almost 100% foreign-owned beverage and retention of the single desk selling confectionary industry that has failed to pass arrangement, with the eventual result that any of its windfalls on to consumers. farmers and producers were presented with Canberra has taken $3,000 per year away the option of either scrapping the tariff or doing from our farmers and given it to multinational away with single desk selling. Both of these companies. Where is the logic in that? The options were highly undesirable to proponents of free trade have never canefarmers, but the Federal Government concerned themselves with logic or reality. 19 Nov 1998 Tariff Protection, Sugar Industry 3443

They inhabit a fairyland of mad textbook could have guaranteed the industry that the theories. They could not care less about the retention of the tariff would have also canefarmers or anyone else in the bush. They guaranteed retention of all its other marketing have no concern at all for whole communities, and structural arrangements, the industry such as many in north Queensland, which are would have probably had a different approach. almost totally dependent upon the sugar It was blackmailed into that course of action industry. and was complaining about it. A gun was held In conclusion, I will paraphrase part of the to its head. The Government seems to think it submission of Sugar North Limited to a recent is a fair deal. It is not. Senate committee on the effect of the removal The financial loss for this industry is $27m. of the sugar tariff on canefarmers. They Some people have put the figure as high as concluded that there is no real benefit in $35m. That figure represents not just jobs that removing the sugar tariff. In the longer term, if will be lost eventually but also the loss of there is a multilateral reduction in tariff barriers investment and development in this industry. It and everyone is playing on a level playing is damaging to the families and rural field, we have no problem at all with the communities that support that industry. It is removal of the tariff. However, we believe that gratuitous damage that is being inflicted by the Australia is moving down a path towards the Government on this industry. As I have said, it removal of all trade barriers. That is weakening is inconsistent with the treatment in the motor our international position. I refer members to vehicle sector. A level playing field was an old saying: "Your mind is like a parachute; it supposed to have been the result of the works better when it is open." It is high time removal of the tariff. I will give members some that all Queensland politicians, both State and examples of sugar tariffs elsewhere. The USA Federal, opened their minds and divested has 100% tariff protection. Thailand has 104% themselves of this cult-like obsession with free tariff protection. The European Union has trade and took a good, hard, long look at the 170% tariff protection. Australia has zero tariff permanent damage being done to protection. That is in no way a level playing Queensland industries and Queensland field. farmers, including our canefarmers. I will explain to members why I won the Australia is fast becoming the seat of Burdekin. One of the biggest issues in international soft touch of world trade. We the Burdekin at the time of the election was have some of the best quality, cleanest and the loss of tariff protection in the sugar most wholesome primary products in the world. industry. It is a commonly known fact that They are competitively priced. Our trading when Senator Bill O'Chee visited the Burdekin partners are buying them because they want he talked to a lot of the concerned them, not because they think we are wonderful canefarmers. His only comment to the people. It is time we took a tougher canefarmers was, "If you are such good negotiating stance. It is time we sought to canefarmers, why do you not remove your provide a decent standard of living for our businesses over to Burma?" That infuriated primary producers, including canegrowers. In the canefarmers. I do not think they ever light of this House's historic and unanimous forgave him. Thus, I was elected to the seat of support last week of the One Nation motion to the Burdekin. condemn the National Competition Policy and I will not place the blame for this measure the fact that the slashing of the sugar tariff on the current members of the Opposition. It is emanated from the National Competition not their fault. I think the problem goes much Policy, I would expect the members present deeper in the Federal coalition. The only again to support this most worthy motion. prominent figure to cross the floor on this issue Mr KNUTH (Burdekin—ONP) (6.05 p.m.): I was the member for Kennedy, Bob Katter. I second the motion moved by the member for commend him for that move. That man had a Lockyer. I will share with members the lot of courage, a lot of guts. He is still holding comments by some prominent people in the his seat today, which shows that people sugar industry. Mr Henry Bonanno— support members who have courage. De-Anne Harry—said that canegrowers have reluctantly Kelly voiced her concern. That is another story. accepted the tariff's demise as part of a For various reasons, she did not cross the compromise. That was a compromise arising floor. I ask the members of the National/Liberal from a threat by Government Ministers to Parties who are sitting on the Opposition retain the industry's single desk selling benches to pressure their Federal counterparts arrangement. Mr Ballantyne of the to consider seriously the damage that has Canegrowers Association said on the PM been done to the sugar industry as a result of program that if either side of Government that decision and to do the right thing by my 3444 Tariff Protection, Sugar Industry 19 Nov 1998 constituents and help this industry out. I selling enables the coordinated and integrated support the motion. management of the industry's logistics with Hon. H. PALASZCZUK (Inala—ALP) cost savings in the form of reduced freight (Minister for Primary Industries) (6.10 p.m.): I charges and lower cost bulk sugar terminal move the following amendment to the motion activities. Were we to deregulate to remove of the honourable member for Lockyer— the single desk selling and leave mills to sell alone in the world marketplace, we would see "Delete all words after 'Parliament' many of these benefits frittered away. and insert the following— Single desk selling works. It has a record 'In order to maximise the marketing power of success over a long period both under the of Queensland graingrowers and to old sugar board and now under the QSC. maximise returns to the sugar industry, Under these arrangements, the industry has urges the Federal Government to become internationally competitive. However, advocate in international trade forums other countries envy our success and would that Queensland be allowed to maintain seek to force us to give up our single desk the single desk for the sale of export selling. These other countries are those which sugar.'." heavily subsidise their sugar industries. For I move this amendment because I believe instance, in the United States, the subsidies that single desk selling is currently the greatest canegrowers receive are greater than the cost asset of the Queensland sugar industry. of producing the sugar. There is some Although I understand the sentiments behind pressure in international trade forums from the honourable member's motion, I believe these countries for us to remove the single that in this case single desk selling is far more desk selling. I urge Tim Fischer, our Trade important than tariffs. Minister, to fight for Queensland's right to keep I believe that the marketing provisions of single desk selling. The Federal Government the Sugar Industry Act 1991 are the basis for should do this for the growers and millers in stability in our State's sugar industry. Single Queensland and for our sugar industry. Let us desk selling is essentially central marketing of not forget that single desk selling was all sugar produced in Queensland, and that is introduced by this State's first majority Labor 95% of all Australia's sugar. Once cane is Government, the Ryan Government. Let me crushed in a mill and it is converted into sugar, say to this House that the Labor Government the sugar becomes the property of the intends to retain single desk selling now and in Queensland Sugar Corporation. The the future. Labor stands firmly behind the Queensland Sugar Corporation then markets sugar industry. this sugar in the international marketplace. One of the greatest advantages we have This year, the QSC sold $2 billion worth of over our competitors is that we have single sugar in international markets. These are desk selling and they do not. Let us keep it export dollars that this country sorely needs. that way. I would urge all members on both The QSC is managed by a board on which sit sides of the House to support this amendment representatives of the whole industry. because, at the end of the day, it is the Single desk selling provides three key sugarcane producers in Queensland—our benefits. Firstly, it enables the Queensland canefarmers—and those small rural industry to build close customer relationships communities that depend on the income from based on the ability to differentiate our canefarmers that will benefit from single Queensland raw sugar from its competitors. It desk selling. I would urge honourable gives us access to markets and control of the members from the One Nation party to take supply chain to end users representing a long- heed of what I have said so far this evening. term strategic benefit to the Queensland sugar Single desk selling is far more important to our industry. This is the major benefit from the sugar producers than is a reintroduction of marketing arrangements. Secondly, single some form of a tariff, because it just will not desk selling enables the Queensland industry work. to influence regional price premiums by Mr MICKEL (Logan—ALP) (6.13 p.m.): It managing the export supply of raw sugar. This is a delight to second the amendment moved benefit is estimated to be in the order of $30m by the Minister because this debate is about to $60m a year. This extra income, of course, the old Australian historical thing of the flows on to the regional communities that rely enlargers versus the minimisers. The upon the sugar industry for their minimisers are all sitting up the back of the prosperity—rural communities such as in the opposite side of the Chamber. They are the electorates of the honourable members for ones who have no faith in the Queensland Burdekin and Tablelands. Thirdly, single desk sugar industry—no faith at all. The newspaper 19 Nov 1998 Tariff Protection, Sugar Industry 3445 that I take a lot of notice of—in fact, I read I am delighted to be visiting this weekend nothing else every week—Queensland Country the great City of Maryborough. One of the Life, today said that we have got a $2 billion things that I will be doing in Maryborough is sugar industry. How did we get that and why having a look at the sugar mill and the great must we be so proud of it? Because over 80% jobs that come from that. What is this all of sugar is exported! That is, it has already about? One Nation selling out that great City found its way onto world markets. These jokers of Maryborough because it disagrees with the over here want to minimise the whole industry sugarcane farmers up there. Those trucks that and deny those work opportunities. export sugar from the sugar mill in Why we are in favour of single desk Maryborough find their way to that great port in selling is that we are right in the corner of the Bundaberg. The member for Tablelands has sugar industry, because the industry signed off not had a look up there and seen that new on it. The entire sugar industry signed off on mill—— single desk selling in exchange for tariff Mr NELSON: I rise to a point of order. I reductions. take offence at being lectured about my electorate. I think that I would know it a hell of Mr NELSON: I rise to a point of order. At a lot more than the member for Logan. He is no stage has One Nation ever said anything talking a load of rubbish, an absolute load of against single desk selling. I have no idea of rubbish. the relevance. Mr SPEAKER: Order! There is no point of Mr SPEAKER: Order! There is no point of order. order. Mr MICKEL: The honourable gentleman Mr MICKEL: The member for Burdekin fancies himself as a brainwave. The trouble said, "We have gained nothing out of it." I ask is—— the old fellow: has he ever heard of the Mr NELSON: I find the language used by Burdekin Dam? He should get his mind around the member for Logan just then highly it. What has happened over the past eight unparliamentary and offensive, and I ask for it years? Does he know what all of that green to be withdrawn. stuff is growing in the fields? That is called sugarcane. Sugarcane production has gone Mr SPEAKER: The member for Logan will from 400,000 hectares to 500,000 hectares in withdraw. just eight years. I refer to the raw sugar Mr MICKEL: Very well, I understand that production in the Burdekin. In 1989, it was 3.6 he has no brains at all. million tonnes. In 1996, it was 5.1 million Mr NELSON: I rise to a point of order. I tonnes. We have to forgive the member for cannot reconcile the behaviour of the member Burdekin: he is as strong as an ox but the for Logan with any directive put forward by the trouble is that he is half as smart. Premier. I find it highly offensive and highly Mr Knuth: What is it at the moment? unparliamentary. I ask for it to be withdrawn and I ask that the member stop this personal Mr MICKEL: Banjo Paterson had them attack on me. right, "Their heads were flat, their eyes were dull, they had no brains at all." Mr SPEAKER: The member for Logan will withdraw. The fact of the matter is that this is the industry with the jobs effect. This is industry Mr MICKEL: I withdraw and ask the with the linkage effect. That great City of honourable gentleman to take a Valium. Bundaberg, well represented in this House by Mr NELSON: I rise to a point of order. I the member for Bundaberg, has a value- find that highly offensive and I ask for it to be added industry second to none. It has a sugar withdrawn. refinery, a mill, a distillery, a molasses Mr SPEAKER: The member will withdraw. company, a soft drinks company, a bag Mr MICKEL: I withdraw. The fact of the company—all of those jobs dependent matter is that single desk selling gives upon—— sugarcane farmers, our great farmers out Mr Knuth: You wouldn't know what is there, a premium price for quality sugar. It has happening in the Burdekin right now. made sure that our sugar prices this year—— Mr MICKEL: See, One Nation is not Time expired. interested in the welfare of the City of Hon. T. R. COOPER (Crows Nest—NPA) Bundaberg. That is why they ran second in the (6.18 p.m.): I feel like a Valium, too. I move election and that is why next time they will run the following amendment to the amendment third. moved by the Minister for Primary Industries— 3446 Tariff Protection, Sugar Industry 19 Nov 1998

"At the end of the amendment When the Minister boarded the Government moved by Mr Palaszczuk, add the jet to fly back to Brisbane, the canegrowers following— were definitely confident that he understood 'and this Parliament calls upon the the problem and would ensure that the State Government to immediately $300,000 that was provided in the coalition's reinstate the $300,000 initial seed Budget would be retained in the Beattie money provided in the Coalition's Government's Budget. What happened on the 1998-99 Budget for research into way from Innisfail to Brisbane? Did the Minister declining commercial content of forget? Did he really understand the sugar (CCS) levels in far north canegrowers' problem? While the money went Queensland, particularly that region into a general research pot for the entire State, from Tully to Mossman.'." it should to be directed into the north of the State, where it is needed most. The viability of the far-north Queensland On 15 September, 10 days later, the sugar industry has been battered by the Beattie Government brought down its Budget. declining commercial content of sugar, It has diverted that $300,000 into another commonly known as c.c.s., particularly this project which is coordinated by the Sugar year through the high, unseasonal rainfall. The Research and Development Corporation, the Minister knows that it is declining. The Minister Yield Decline Joint Venture. That is all well and knows that we have had a high, unseasonal good, and some may say that the money is rainfall. We are saying that it is hovering still going into sugarcane research. However, around about the 10 c.c.s. level, down from that project does not directly address the c.c.s. the viable levels of 13 c.c.s. plus. That has problem that is battering the canegrowers. The certainly slashed many thousands of dollars off Minister does not need to take my word for it. family farm incomes. He can take the word of sugar industry experts Compounding that problem will be the whom the Minister met when he was in lacklustre sugar market, with poor prices being Innisfail. The newspaper headlines—which I projected for next season. That is why there is know he has—say it all: "Grower ire at mistake a sense of urgency in this matter. We are on c.c.s. call", screamed the Cairns Post on 24 amending this motion to strike at the heart of September; "Growers attack c.c.s. study funds the problem that exists within the cane and Funding for c.c.s. research blaster", said industry, which is the c.c.s. levels. The the Innisfail Advocate on 19 September. In canegrowers, the people on the ground, know fact, the Innisfail growers believe that putting that. They also face the threat from the that funding into the big pot may actually sugarcane smut outbreak in the Ord River compound the c.c.s. problem in the north district of Western Australia. The sugar industry rather than fix it. is facing those tough issues right now, and The canegrowers and the Opposition that is why full attention must be given to have repeatedly called for the Minister to those problems and it is urgent that the acknowledge the fact that the money was left Government addresses them. out of the direct funding. The Minister must The canegrowers and the organisations direct that money back to the localised within the sugar industry want a heavy focus research program which the coalition provided on research into c.c.s. levels in the far north. for in its 1998-99 Budget. By consistently The Borbidge Government promised to do refusing to do that, the Minister has confused that. After the change of Government, the the issue completely, which is very unfortunate canegrowers in the region were anxious to for the growers. The member for Hinchinbrook ensure that the Beattie Government made sure that that funding was there. He understood the problem with declining c.c.s. knew exactly what the growers wanted and levels. They wanted an assurance that the what was needed. In this whole sorry episode, new Government would retain the funding that is the unfortunate part for the provided in the coalition Government's 1998- canegrowers in north Queensland. For the 99 Budget. Indeed, they went to the trouble of sake of those growers and the viability of the inviting the Minister to Innisfail to see the sugar industry in far-north Queensland, I problem first hand. On 5 September they strongly urge the Parliament to support the briefed him extensively, and the Innisfail amendment. Advocate stated— Time expired. "The message has been received Mr ROWELL (Hinchinbrook—NPA) loud and clear and these growers can be (6.23 p.m.): I rise to second the amendment to assured I will act on it." the motion moved by the member for Crows 19 Nov 1998 Tariff Protection, Sugar Industry 3447

Nest. I do not think that the Minister is aware Mr ROWELL: Which press release? I of or understands what is happening with the think that the Minister is absolutely confused. single desk seller. The Federal Government When there is a change of Government, amendments have certainly made sure that things change. This Government is absolutely the position of the single desk seller is secure confused about what it needs to do. The and is enshrined in legislation. I do not know if Federal Government provided approximately the Minister really knows what he is talking $13.45m and, of course, that will be about, because that has already been done administered by the Sugar Research and and it complies with all of the provisions of the Development Corporation. That organisation National Competition Policy. The Minister has probably received 60 to 70 applications for should know that there is about six million that funding. It is absolutely essential that the tonnes north of Tully—— problem of low sugar levels be addressed Mr Palaszczuk: You talk to Harry through that budgetary provision. We must Bonanno. make sure that that money is directed into Mr ROWELL: The Minister should talk to research into this problem. That is extremely Harry Bonanno. I do not know if the Minister important. knows what he is talking about. Approximately I turn to the trade-off that occurred with six million tonnes of cane is seriously affected the tariff, which is quite significant. One had to by low sugar levels. I have represented part of comply with the National Competition Policy, the Tully and Innisfail area, and I know that the which was introduced by the Federal Labor decline in sugar levels has been apparent for Party and supported by the Labor Party in this some time. That issue needs to be addressed. State in 1995, to ensure that we were all clean When the Labor Party was in Government, it and up to scratch—— did nothing. When we came to Government, Mr Mickel: And supported by you, you we recognised that there was a problem and hypocrite. we provided $300,000 in funding. Of course, the problem was highlighted during a Cabinet Mr ROWELL: We had to do it, otherwise meeting in the Mulgrave Mill area. Growers we would have lost funding. from that region were very concerned about Mr Mickel: You promised that to three or the decline in sugar levels. For some five years four different groups. they had experienced extremely low sugar Mr ROWELL: The Labor Party signed off levels. In fact, they are doing a quite a bit of on it and we had to support it. We had no research into the problem themselves and I option. You were not here. You were running congratulate them on their initiative. around the back there at that time. You were The current Minister is absolutely doing all those frivolous things that you used confused. The $300,000 that the coalition to do. provided to this area must be returned. I show Mr SPEAKER: Order! The honourable the Minister Budget Paper No. 2 1998, which I member will address his remarks through the will read because the Minister cannot read very Chair. well. Under the heading, Commercial Cane Mr ROWELL: We had to ensure that the Sugar Decline Strategy, it states— industry maintained its single desk seller. I "Funding of $0.3 million over three assure the House that the Federal years is provided to investigate and Government has enacted legislation to address declining sugar content enshrine the position of the single desk seller. (commercial cane sugar) in North Time expired. Queensland." Hon. K. W. HAYWARD (Kallangur—ALP) Our Budget paper stated that, yet the Minister (6.29 p.m.): I rise to support the amendment says that it is not there. He does not know moved by the Honourable the Minister for what he is talking about. He has blinkers on. Primary Industries. Clearly, the amendment is The Minister does not want to accept the fact about maximising the marketing power of that we did that and that he has messed it up. Queensland canegrowers and ensuring, in Instead of talking about sugar decline, he is order to maximise those returns, that we urge talking about yield decline. That shows that he the Federal Government to advocate in the is an absolute novice in this area. I am a sugar international trade forums that Queensland be grower and I know exactly what the industry allowed to maintain the single desk for the sale needs. of export sugar. Mr Palaszczuk: So did you in your press The Queensland industry has undergone releases. significant change over the past few years. 3448 Tariff Protection, Sugar Industry 19 Nov 1998

What has been the result of that change? In "Having fully considered the benefits summary, Australia produces about 4% of the and costs of deregulation, the working world's sugar, but the Queensland industry is party recommends the continuation of one of the world's largest raw sugar exporters. compulsory acquisition for all raw sugar In Queensland, we export about 86% of our produced in Queensland." production each year. That amounts to about The significant benefits which flow to the 15% of the total global free sugar trade in the industry and community as a whole result from world. Queensland is normally amongst the these arrangements. top three exporters in the world. To highlight how important the industry is to this State, I Almost all of the other recommendations point out that sugar is Australia's fourth largest of the working party have been embodied in export earning agricultural industry and the proposed sugar industry legislation that will accounts for about 6.5% of total farm exports come into this Parliament next year. As many and 22% of crop product exports. members would know, that Bill is currently being circulated in the industry for comment. We have to recognise that virtually all— The review working party consists of a number and this is why the single desk is so of industry representatives, including the important—Australian raw sugar exports come Chairman of the Canegrowers Association, Mr from Queensland. Asia represents about 65% Harry Bonanno, and the chairman of the of export sales. More importantly, in the Milling Council, Graham Davies, from Mackay industry that we are talking about now, by the Sugar. The review's recommendations are year 2000 exports will account for over 90% of about creating a more efficient, flexible and the output. The central engine of this change commercially oriented industry, because it is is the industry's desire to win globally. It does an industry about exports. not matter what we say, because in the end the industry has always recognised that it is Time expired. about exports. A significant amount of its Hon. V. P. LESTER (Keppel—NPA) product is exported. For example, if members (6.34 p.m.): I support the Opposition's took a drive to Gympie, they would notice that amendment, which calls on the minority sugar is now being grown at Caboolture. Beattie Government to recognise the plight of far-north Queensland canegrowers in relation Mr Seeney: All the way to Gympie! to the declining c.c.s. levels. The most Mr HAYWARD: That is just an example of pressing issue in far-north Queensland for the the expansion of the industry. Sugarcane was sugar industry is the declining c.c.s. levels. The not grown previously at Caboolture. It is now most pressing issue is not tariffs, not the grown in Caboolture. Further up the coast, at marketing of sugar or the sugar price; it is the places such as Kin Kin or, just north of Gympie decline in the c.c.s. Although this Parliament itself, out near Woombye, sugarcane is being and the State Government cannot influence grown. Why are they growing sugarcane? world prices, does not have responsibility for They are not growing it for fun; they are tariffs and cannot control the weather, the growing it because they can export the Parliament and the State Government can do product. There is a demand for the product. something about the declining c.c.s. That is They do not do it for fun; they know that the what our amendment is all about. It is not pie export demand is there. Increasingly, more in the sky. It calls for immediate and effective and more areas that were never even action to address the serious problems considered previously are now being turned affecting and threatening far-north into sugarcane-growing areas. Along the Queensland sugarcane growers. If the coast, growers and millers are determined that Parliament carries this amendment, that is Queensland sugar will maintain and improve what we will be delivering to the people of far- its position as the leading commodity, not just north Queensland—action, not empty rhetoric. in Queensland but right around the world. Sadly, many farm families are now The review of the sugar industry that was earning below the basic wage on farms that conducted in 1996 recommended a range of were once regarded as viable enterprises. reforms that would improve the industry's Average returns have halved, from $30,702 in competitiveness. Crucially, the review working 1997 to $14,887 in 1998. The most effective party concluded that the single desk should be way to boost the farm incomes and the viability retained. That is what the amendment that the of far-north Queensland sugar industry growers Minister has moved tonight is about; it is about will be to find answers to the problems of the ensuring that that single desk is retained. declining c.c.s. This amendment seeks to help to find these answers. By way of an example An excerpt from the report states— of the dramatic effects of c.c.s. on farm 19 Nov 1998 Tariff Protection, Sugar Industry 3449 income, an analysis by Innisfail district amendment moved by the Minister. I know canegrowers has shown that a district average tonight that, in my capacity as the c.c.s. of 12 will deliver a net profit before tax of Parliamentary Secretary to the Premier in north around $30,000, or a 3.1% return on Queensland, I am speaking on behalf of a investment. With an increase in c.c.s. of just number of members who would like to one unit, that is, from 12 to 13, net profit contribute to this debate. I refer, of course, to before tax will increase by 60%, to $49,000. the member for Bundaberg and the members We have already heard from the member for Mackay, Barron River, Cairns and Cook— for Crows Nest and the member for the Labor electorates in northern and far-north Hinchinbrook about how the coalition provided Queensland that take in the sugar areas. $300,000 in seed money to kick-start a We live in an increasingly interlinked world localised research program into the declining economy. The Queensland sugar industry is c.c.s. problem in the region from Tully to highly competitive in that world market. Our Mossman. This program has strong support sugar is high quality and competitively priced. from the canegrowers in that far-northern One of the key advantages we possess is the region. We heard how, despite being single desk seller: the Queensland Sugar personally briefed on the severity of the Corporation, or the QSC. The QSC sells all of problem by those local growers and the need Queensland's sugar and, as such, it can enter for research money, the new Minister into forward contracts which enable us to get a mistakenly diverted that money into another premium price for our sugar. This delivers program, which unfortunately will compound tangible benefits for both our growers and our the problem rather than fix it. We have heard mills. how, despite repeated pleas from the industry The removal of the sugar tariff was a and calls from the Opposition which date back trade-off for the retention of the single desk. to when the Beattie Government took office, By raising this issue, the One Nation Party the Minister for Primary Industries has jeopardises our single desk. Many Canberra consistently refused to divert that money back economic rationalists would like to see the into projects for which they were intended. single desk fall. This is because they have a The seat of Mulgrave, where the heart of blind adherence to neoclassical economics. the problem exists, is now facing a by-election. Mr NELSON: I rise to a point of order. The It is now more likely that the minority Beattie member is misleading the House. At no stage Government will use this issue to pork-barrel in has One Nation asked to get rid of single desk a desperate attempt to win the seat and selling. He is misleading the House. I ask for secure a majority in the Parliament. But if it that to be withdrawn. were a responsible Government and genuinely concerned about the welfare of canegrowers, Mr SPEAKER: Order! There is no point of their families and the jobs in the communities order. that depend on the sugar industry, it would not Mr Nelson interjected. have let it reach this unfortunate stage. But Mr SPEAKER: Order! The member for the fact is that because of the failings of the Tablelands! Those words are unparliamentary minority Beattie Government we have reached and you will withdraw. this stage. If the Government will not act, the Parliament now has the responsibility to act on Mr Nelson interjected. behalf of the sugar industry. Mr REYNOLDS: It is quite clear that the The carriage of this amendment will send member for Tablelands does not understand the people of far-north Queensland a what I am saying. message, that is, that the Queensland Mr NELSON: I rise to a point of order. I Parliament is genuinely concerned about the understand completely what the member is situation confronting the far-north Queensland saying. I ask for that comment to be sugarcane growers and the population there withdrawn. with respect to the decline in the c.c.s. This Mr SPEAKER: Order! There is no point of amendment allows the Parliament to take order. immediate action to fix the problem. I urge the Parliament to stand up, to be counted, to put Mr REYNOLDS: It is quite clear that, in politics aside and support the amendment that the view of the Canberra economic rationalists, we have put forward. any sort of Government intervention is unsound and disturbs the equilibrium of the Time expired. market. Commonsense tells us that that is just Mr REYNOLDS (Townsville—ALP) plain wrong. The single desk is a form of (6.39 p.m.): I speak tonight in favour of the Government intervention that is highly 3450 Tariff Protection, Sugar Industry 19 Nov 1998 successful. It is not a protectionist measure; it Mr REYNOLDS: I rise to a point of order. does not disturb trade and it does not impair Those words are unparliamentary. our efficiency. However, going back to a tariff is Mr SPEAKER: Order! They have to be not the answer. I know that the member for addressed personally to a member for him to Lockyer means well but, really, what would a take a point of order on them. tariff achieve? It would not really help our industry but would actually hurt it. We are now Mr MICKEL: I rise to a point of order. extremely competitive. We can take on the Surely the language of "lies" is rest of the world and we can win. If we were to unparliamentary. I ask for a ruling on that. bring back the tariff, we would only be shooting Mr SPEAKER: Order! The word "lies" of ourselves in the foot. course is unparliamentary. Every member knows that the sugar Mr REYNOLDS: Thank you, Mr Speaker. industry in this State is experiencing hard Mr NELSON: I withdraw for my sensitive times. This is a product of a number of factors: friends on the other side. low world prices, c.c.s. decline and high rainfall. I know that because I live in north Mr MICKEL: I rise to a point of order. The Queensland, and other members of the House member is reflecting on the Chair in a most know it as well. Nonetheless, a tariff would only unconscionable way. Mr Speaker, on your give our international competitors, such as behalf, I think he should withdraw that Brazil and the United States, justification to impugning of you. take trade reprisals against us. Honourable Mr SPEAKER: Order! It was a reflection members should remember that we are more on the Chair and I do ask that you withdraw. competitive than they are. They know this. Mr NELSON: I will withdraw. I am really a They would love to increase their trade barriers little astounded. This House voted against us. This would suit their purposes. unanimously that it did not like NCP. The They are constrained, as we are, by the GATT. simple fact is that this is all relevant to the They need a reason to act, and Australia whole concept of the National Competition reimposing a tariff would give this to them. A Policy. tariff for sugar is a short-term, short-sighted, self-defeating concept; it is an outdated way of Mr Lucas interjected. dealing with the problem. Mr NELSON: It is very, very embarrassing. Let me go back and say that the previous I have to tolerate the honourable member's coalition Government did very little. The existence and it is democratic that I do so. National Party did very little to protect the Anyway, the simple fact here is that we are single desk. It wrote to the coalition Federal talking about tariff protection. I did not want to, Government, but Mr Costello and Mr Anderson but let me refer to the seat of Mulgrave for a did not believe that there was a problem with minute. I will edify a few people on the other the Trade Practices Act. They did not believe side of the House. There are actually a lot of that there was a need to amend the Trade sugarcane farms in the electorate of Mulgrave. Practices Act to protect the single desk. I will The member for Hinchinbrook might correct tell honourable members—they do not like me if I am wrong, but I would say that at least hearing it—why the Federal coalition did not 80% of Mulgrave is made up of sugarcane. want to act. Mr Costello and his economic The simple fact is that, when I drove around rationalist Treasury mandarins would just love that electorate and talked to a few people, as I to see the collapse of the single desk. With did for the previous member for Mulgrave, their anti-Government ideology and their free every single sugarcane farmer whom I spoke market, Thatcherite ideology, they wanted to to—I am not talking about groups or see the demise of this great scheme which representatives; I am talking about individual benefits the sugar industry in Queensland so sugarcane farmers—certainly said to me—— much. So they said that there was not a Mr Lucas: Do you honestly think we problem. The National Party coalition believe the rubbish you spout? Government bought it. Why do honourable Mr NELSON: That is very, very sad. Every members think that they have lost all those sugarcane farmer I spoke to said to me that sugar seats? Because they did not care and they believed in the concept of tariff protection. they did not understand the issue! I assure members that there are sugarcane Mr NELSON (Tablelands—ONP) farmers on the tablelands, too. I am sure that, (6.43 p.m.): I had a speech written, but I am if they ask the Premier or the Honourable going to deviate from it because I have to Minister on the other side of the Chamber, address some of the absolute lies and rubbish they will confirm my statements. The being—— sugarcane farmers say to me that tariff 19 Nov 1998 Industrial Development Amendment Bill 3451 protection is very, very important and they are Nelson-Carr, Nuttall, Palaszczuk, Pearce, Reeves, very, very angry that it was ever taken away Reynolds, Roberts, Robertson, Rose, Schwarten, from them in the first place under the concept Spence, Struthers, Wellington, Wells, Wilson. of economic rationalism. Tellers: Sullivan, Purcell Mr Lucas: Tell us who you spoke to. Pairs: Gibbs, Mitchell; Barton, Malone; D'Arcy, Pratt; Edmond, Borbidge; Welford, Watson; Mr NELSON: Would the honourable Mulherin, Goss member like me to name every individual Resolved in the negative. farmer I have ever spoken to? That is absolutely ridiculous! Maryann Salvetti, an Amendment agreed to. Australian Rural Woman of the Year and head Motion, as amended, agreed to. of the Canegrowers Association on the Atherton Tableland. Would that do? PRIMARY INDUSTRIES LEGISLATION Mr Lucas: Was that in Mulgrave? AMENDMENT BILL Mr NELSON: No, this is on the Atherton Resumption of Committee. Tableland, in my own electorate. Fools! Hon. H. PALASZCZUK (Inala—ALP) Economic rationalism has gutted this (Minister for Primary Industries) in charge of nation and at the heart of it is the cut to tariff the Bill. protections. We were once a giant. This country was once a powerful nation that was a Resumed on clause 12 (see p. 3442). force to be reckoned with in this world. We are Question—That Mr Cooper's amendment now a mob of lackeys who hang around and be agreed to—put; and the Committee whinge and sook while other nations defend divided— themselves with tariff protection—while we AYES, 37—Beanland, Black, Connor, Cooper, E. A. stand around and let our heart be pecked out Cunningham, Dalgleish, Davidson, Elliott, Feldman, by countries that look after their agricultural Gamin, Grice, Healy, Hobbs, Horan, Johnson, strengths no matter what. I would like to be a Kingston, Knuth, Laming, Lester, Lingard, member of a Government—and one day I will Littleproud, Nelson, Paff, Prenzler, Quinn, Rowell, be when One Nation takes power in this Santoro, Seeney, Sheldon, Simpson, Slack, House—that reintroduces tariff protection and Springborg, Stephan, Turner, Veivers. Tellers: defends—— Baumann, Hegarty NOES, 38—Attwood, Beattie, Bligh, Boyle, Braddy, Mr MICKEL: I rise to a point of order Bredhauer, Briskey, J. I. Cunningham, Elder, Fenlon, under Standing Order 330. Foley, Fouras, Hamill, Hayward, Hollis, Lavarch, Mr SPEAKER: Order! State your point of Lucas, Mackenroth, McGrady, Mickel, Musgrove, order. Nelson-Carr, Nuttall, Palaszczuk, Pearce, Reeves, Reynolds, Roberts, Robertson, Rose, Schwarten, Mr MICKEL: Gross exaggeration. Spence, Struthers, Wellington, Wells, Wilson. Mr SPEAKER: Order! There is no point of Tellers: Sullivan, Purcell order. Pairs: Gibbs, Mitchell; Barton, Malone; D'Arcy, Mr NELSON: And this is cleaning up Pratt; Edmond, Borbidge; Welford, Watson; Parliament! The people of Mulgrave will vote Mulherin, Goss on 5 December. I give a guarantee to the Resolved in the negative. member opposite that, when I circulate what Clause 12, as read, agreed to. has happened in this House tonight in that electorate, those people will vote accordingly. Clauses 13 to 31, as read, agreed to. Question—That Mr Cooper's amendment Bill reported, without amendment. to Mr Palaszczuk's amendment be agreed to—put; and the House divided— Third Reading AYES, 37—Beanland, Black, Connor, Cooper, E. A. Cunningham, Dalgleish, Davidson, Elliott, Feldman, Bill, on motion of Mr Palaszczuk, read a Gamin, Grice, Healy, Hobbs, Horan, Johnson, third time. Kingston, Knuth, Laming, Lester, Lingard, Littleproud, Nelson, Paff, Prenzler, Quinn, Rowell, Santoro, Seeney, Sheldon, Simpson, Slack, INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT Springborg, Stephan, Turner, Veivers. Tellers: BILL Baumann, Hegarty Second Reading NOES, 38—Attwood, Beattie, Bligh, Boyle, Braddy, Resumed from 20 October (see p. 2532). Bredhauer, Briskey, Clark, J. I. Cunningham, Elder, Fenlon, Foley, Fouras, Hamill, Hayward, Lavarch, Mr HORAN (Toowoomba South—NPA) Lucas, Mackenroth, McGrady, Mickel, Musgrove, (Deputy Leader of the Opposition) (7.05 p.m.): 3452 Industrial Development Amendment Bill 19 Nov 1998

I realise that this is a fairly late stage of this from those estates, a dividend of $3m is paid very last day of Parliament for 1998, so I will to Treasury through the corporate keep my remarks reasonably brief. The arrangements involved with those estates. It is Opposition will not be opposing this Bill, interesting to see how the asset value of those because it is basically very similar to the Bill estates has increased dramatically over the that was introduced by our previous Minister, years. I understand that, in June 1989, some the member for Noosa. It basically sets out to $98m had been expended on those do the same sorts of things. It sets out to bring technology parks and estates. The current this Act up to date, it sets out to make the Act value of those estates is somewhere in the more flexible, and it sets out to have one order of $320m even though, over recent single fund instead of the three funds that years, some of that land has been sold off. have existed previously. Add to that the value of the structures on The Industrial Development Act dates some of those estates, and that could bring back to 1963, when it was brought into place that value to somewhere in the order of $0.5 by the Nicklin Government. At that stage, it billion. provided for the Industries Assistance Board, I believe it is important to note that, under which was previously constituted under the coalition policy, there were a number of very Labour and Industry Act 1946. That Act clear policy objectives to foster State provided assistance for the acquisition of land development. They included policy principles for industrial purposes on which to establish a such as decentralised economic development; business pertaining to any industry, or to productive Queensland enterprises and expand an existing business pertaining to any economic development agencies; an industry. It also provided for an industries internationally competitive business assistance fund, an industrial estates environment; investment capital for construction fund and the estates sustainable development opportunities; maintenance fund. Over the years, seven Queensland enterprises, particularly those amendments were made to the Act, leading which are export orientated and export ready; up to the Bill that was placed on the table in industries which will prosper in the 21st March of this year. Then we had the election. century; sustainable rural economic As a result, we have before us this Bill which development opportunities; effective and was introduced by the current Minister. efficient infrastructure for economic development; flexible industrial relations The Industrial Development Act, and its facilitating maximum choice for the subsequent amendments, was a significant development of productive workplace initiative when it was introduced in 1963. It was arrangements; and increased Government designed to enhance industrial development and industry investment in vocational throughout the State. The primary objective of education and training. the legislation was to enable the granting of financial assistance and to provide land-based Importantly, this policy of the coalition forms of assistance to industry in Queensland. recognised that economic development will be overwhelmingly driven by the private sector, I believe that all members would be with the Government playing a key role in familiar with the various industrial estates creating the right environment for investment around Queensland. There are some 54 of to happen. Through the various initiatives and them—from major technology parks in the city, programs, the coalition Government made a to larger industrial estates in the regional cities, direct contribution to the State's growth and and even to some smaller industrial estates in the State's export figures, which continued to country towns. Over the years, those estates surge despite the Asian economic slump. The have been very useful in attracting industries coalition Government was concerned about to particular areas. Local governments often providing assistance to Queensland work very closely with the State Government in businesses to effect a growth boost in an endeavour to attract industries to their international trade and to entrench an export particular areas. culture throughout the State. Some 65 industrial estates and three Queensland's prosperity is built on exports technology research parks were developed and the attracting of investment in industry. during that time. They provided some 6,831 Last year, Queensland earned some $19 hectares of industrial land, and more than billion from exports. Trade revenue accounts 2,500 individual manufacturers benefited from for about 20% of all State income. Under the the industrial estates program. As I said, there coalition Government, Queensland exporters are currently 54 industrial estates throughout defied national trends. ABS figures show that Queensland. From the funds that are derived Queensland's export growth outpaced other 19 Nov 1998 Industrial Development Amendment Bill 3453

States. Queensland's share of the nation's industries to come to those areas. It is an exports rose to 18.39% compared with 17.34% opportunity to put together industrial estates for the same period in 1996-97. The coalition that cater for particular industries. We have to Government certainly had an enviable record keep in mind that this should not necessarily for attracting investment and industry. be done entirely by the Government. Let us Investment is vital for expanding the see private enterprise get in and put together diversifying State economy. Through the industrial estates and technology parks. Some attraction of new investment and the of the new technology parks are very establishment of new industry from overseas, attractive. They are different from the old-style Queensland is now in a better position to industrial areas. The new parks have attractive access world export markets and benefit from warehouses. When I am driving home to additional employment generation. Toowoomba, I often see the new-style Under the coalition Government, a large industrial estate near the Oxley roundabout. number of Australian and international There are some very impressive industrial companies demonstrated their confidence in estates. The new styling and landscaping can Queensland by moving here or expanding make industrial areas very acceptable to a their operations here. Some of those included suburb, district or town. They do not need to Voxson, Mack Trucks, Boeing, Comalco, Shell be just places that are out in the backblocks. Coal, DHL, Dascom, John Deere, Qantas, Those estates provide a new lift to industry Filtronic Comtek, Silicon Graphics, Southern generally. Pacific Petroleum/Central Pacific Minerals, As I said, the Opposition is prepared to Australian Air Express, Andersen Consulting support this Bill. It is very similar in almost and so the list goes on. Investment in major every respect to the legislation the coalition development projects, of which Queensland introduced earlier in the year. As this is the last has 25% nationally, generates exports and parliamentary sitting evening of the year and many thousands of new jobs. The coalition some people have a long way to travel to get Government had on its books projects—either home, in the true spirit of Christmas, I will committed or proposed—with a value of nearly restrict my comments to that. $16 billion, plus industry and investment Mrs LIZ CUNNINGHAM (Gladstone—IND) generating, or with the potential to generate, (7.15 p.m.): I would like to clarify a couple of some 20,300 new jobs. issues with the Minister. I indicate my The State Economic Development appreciation for the replies that his officers Strategy was released by the coalition have already given to some of my questions. Government in May 1996. That document set The Minister indicated that he would put those out the direction for the State's future answers on the record. I think a couple of economic development. The Borbidge those answers do not need to be placed on Government had a master plan. It had a the record. Can the Minister detail any strategic plan for 1997-2007. That strategy changes that are proposed in the new built on the achievements of Queensland's structure of the Estates Maintenance Fund? businesses and industries and the strength of Will the restructure create any staff Queensland's regions. It detailed directions for redundancies? Will the lease of unallocated sustained economic development over the State land under the Lands Act 1994 attract next decade. Primarily, the strategy was native title claim or negotiation? I think they concerned with the provision of a supportive are the only ones of my earlier questions that environment that would enable the private we need answered on the record. sector to make the most of economic The insertion of new sections 5A and 6— opportunities in order to grow and to prosper. there may be other sections that I have not That economic strategy was one of the five caught up with; I did not know this Bill was key components of the coalition Government's coming forward—gives the corporation the strategic plan for 1997-2007. The objective of ability to buy and sell land. As a result of my the State Economic Development Strategy experience at home, I know the importance of was to create wealth and sustainable the negotiations between Government and employment opportunities for Queenslanders large industries to provide a site and to by improving the productivity performance of negotiate infrastructure. Will the new head of the Queensland economy. power that the Minister will have introduce the This Bill can contribute to economic spectre of third-party acquisitions? At the growth. As I said earlier in my speech, we are moment, it is not possible for the State all familiar with industrial estates in the cities, Government to acquire land from private regions and rural areas. It is a good landowners and then renegotiate that land opportunity to provide extra incentives for with a company for gain, potentially to the 3454 Industrial Development Amendment Bill 19 Nov 1998 middle person, that is, the Government. At the subject to the Native Title Act. In industrial moment, if it is freehold title land, the private estates where we have vacant Crown land, it company must negotiate with a landowner for does not apply; it is essentially part of that the acquisition of that land. The reason that estate and, as such, should be developed by provision has been retained for years is that it the Government. However, Aldoga would be protects landowners from the significant an instance in which the Native Title Act would powers of acquisition that the Government apply. carries for the purposes of Government There are no staff redundancies created business. Does this Bill introduce that spectre from a collapsing of either the estate or of third-party acquisition? I seek the Minister's maintenance funds. Essentially, we had two clarification. funds operating. The Auditor-General said Hon. J. P. ELDER (Capalaba—ALP) that, under the current requirements of the (Deputy Premier and Minister for State Financial Administration and Audit Act, we Development and Minister for Trade) need one fund. The previous Government (7.17 p.m.), in reply: I thank the Opposition for understood that. We have just met that same its support. As the shadow Minister indicated, requirement. in essence this is the same legislation that was I think that the member has been given brought before the Parliament by the coalition. the answers to the other questions that she The reason for that was that the department raised. I believe that those questions have was working outside the requirements of its been answered satisfactorily, or at least I hope legislation outlined by the Auditor-General in that they have been. that the Industrial Estates Construction Fund and the Estates Maintenance Fund needed to Motion agreed to. be collapsed. Under the new arrangements, we acted within the ambit of our own Committee legislation. I will not go into the economics debate with which the shadow Minister Hon. J. P. ELDER (Capalaba—ALP) commenced his contribution. I will leave that (Deputy Premier and Minister for State debate for another day. I appreciate his Development and Minister for Trade) in charge support in relation to this legislation. of the Bill. As to the questions raised by the member Clauses 1 to 6, as read, agreed to. for Gladstone, the Minister has always been Clause 7— the corporation. Historically, the Minister has Mr HORAN (7.21 p.m.): Clause 7 removes bought and sold land and run the estates. The the necessity for the corporation to seek only change that we have made in terms of Governor in Council approval prior to carrying these powers is that we have given the out specified functions. On page 6 of the Bill, Minister—in this case, me—a broader power clause 7(2)(c) states— by changing the definition of "industry". Previously on estates we could develop only "... enter into joint ventures or other manufacturing-type industries. On a lot of the cooperative arrangements, with the smaller estates a better mix was needed. We Governor in Council's approval." have allowed the definition of "industry" to The Government is really getting Governor in change to allow, for instance, for child-care Council's approval for matters that are joint centres, banks and service facilities in the ventures, but not getting Governor in Council middle of new high-tech industrial estates. We approval for other arrangements such as in have allowed the definition to change to give clause 7(2)(a) and 7(2)(b). Is that purely the Minister the flexibility to establish those because of the higher risk of a joint venture? I types of enterprises in industrial estates. would just like the Minister to tell us a little bit Obviously, we are not talking about the heavy about that, because clause 7(2A) states that industrial estates. By nature, they will remain the corporation may exercise a power only if it as heavy industrial estates. As industrial has been considered under a regulation. estates change and the need for new-style Mr ELDER: Essentially, the member is industrial estates arises, we will need flexibility. right. He has answered his question. Under the That is the only change in terms of that power. new administrative arrangements in relation to In terms of Crown land within industrial the transfer of land and the sale of land in estates that has not been allocated—and terms of modern practice, it is easier for the Aldoga, in the electorate of the member for Minister to do it rather than go through Gladstone, is a good example—areas that are Executive Council. However, when it is not already industrial estates but are likely to something that is a bit more sophisticated—a be industrial estates in the long term will be joint venture and/or other cooperative 19 Nov 1998 Land and Resources Tribunal Bill 3455 arrangements—then it is our intention to take it Mr ELDER: Essentially, it is the same to Executive Council. requirement. If it is an oversight in the Mrs LIZ CUNNINGHAM: I just seek Explanatory Notes, it is an oversight in the clarification of the one question that the Explanatory Notes. It is just the same Minister did not respond to on the record, requirement. which was regarding the third-party acquisition Clause 13, as read, agreed to. powers. We have significant powers there. Clauses 14 and 15, as read, agreed to. Does this clause provide such powers? Mr ELDER: My apologies to the member Bill reported, without amendment. for Gladstone. I was remiss; I had forgotten. No, it does not apply to this Bill. In fact, the Third Reading State Development and Public Works Organization Act has that power. Bill, on motion of Mr Elder, by leave, read a third time. Clause 7, as read, agreed to. Clauses 8 to 12, as read, agreed to. Clause 13— LAND AND RESOURCES TRIBUNAL BILL Mr HORAN (7.24 p.m.): This clause deals Hon. P. D. BEATTIE (Brisbane Central— with the three funds, although one is dormant. ALP) (Premier) (7.28 p.m.), by leave, without notice: I move— Mr Elder interjected. Mr HORAN: Basically, they are all "That leave be granted to bring in a transferred into one fund. There does not Bill for an Act to establish the Land and seem to be any time limit for the transfer of Resources Tribunal, and for other those moneys. Would it not be normal to have purposes." some form of time limit so that the one fund is Motion agreed to. established and all of that money is shifted Mr SPEAKER read a message from His into that fund, and then it is finished? Clause Excellency the Governor recommending the 13 relates to the Estates Construction Fund necessary appropriation. and lists all the things that have to be credited to that fund, such as appropriations, lease moneys and other amounts received. This First Reading clause is about transferring the money from Bill and Explanatory Notes presented and one fund. Bill, on motion of Mr Beattie, read a first time. Mr Elder: As soon as the legislation is through it will actually—— Mr HORAN: That will cut it. I just wanted Second Reading to see that everything is tidied up—that the Hon. P. D. BEATTIE (Brisbane Central— funds cease and they are closed down. ALP) (Premier) (7.30 p.m.): I move— Mr ELDER: I appreciate the member's "That the Bill be now read a second concern. That was the reason the previous time." Government brought forward the legislation. I am particularly proud to introduce this The fact of the matter is that as soon as the legislation, because it is part of my strategy to legislation is passed that will precipitate the fix the issue of native title, which is what I set collapse of the two funds into the new fund out to do. It is a most important step towards and the new fund will be administered as was the completion of my Government's required and outlined by the Auditor-General. commitment to introduce a comprehensive So the time frame is essentially in terms of package of legislation dealing with native title getting this legislation through the Parliament. in Queensland. Mr HORAN: This may seem a small or I remind the House of the action that the petty point, but on page 9 of the Explanatory Queensland Labor Government has taken to Notes, three paragraphs down and towards date in this critical matter. In July, the first the ends it states— piece of legislation introduced by this "In subsection (5) the words Government was the Native Title (Queensland) 'borrowing' and 'lease' are defined to State Provisions Act 1998. That legislation clarify their meaning." settled once and for all the question of The only one that is clarified in the Bill itself is whether native title was extinguished by the "borrowing". This might seem to be a bit granting of certain tenures. It also put paid to pedantic, but why is "lease" not clarified? the scare tactics on this issue so beloved of 3456 Land and Resources Tribunal Bill 19 Nov 1998 the Opposition. We moved quickly and fixed Resources Act 1989 and transfers its functions the issue. to the tribunal. However, the warden's On 11 November, only one week ago, this determinative functions under that Act are not Parliament debated and passed the Native altered. Title (Queensland) State Provisions It is important that the new tribunal is Amendment Act (No. 2) 1998. That legislation seen to have appropriate expertise. For that integrated the way the State deals with native reason, the president of the tribunal is a title matters into the Mineral Resources Act. position equivalent in work and salary to a Again, we moved to fix the issue of native title. Supreme Court judge. However, the appointee In the debate on that legislation, I stressed will be entitled "president" rather than "judge" that it was the result of a comprehensive and will not be appointed to the Supreme process of consultation with all major groups Court as such. The president will be assisted that would be affected by it: the mining by a minimum of two persons equivalent to industry, the representatives of the indigenous District Court judges—but, again, they will not community and the pastoral industry. I also be members of the District Court—who are flagged the Government's intention to deputy presidents of the tribunal. Collectively, introduce legislation to establish a the members are known as presiding Queensland-based body to hear and members. Their appointments are, like judges, determine mining applications, including where for life, subject to retirement at 70 years. native title issues are involved. In addition, there are other appointments I would like to remind the House of the to a panel to assist the presiding members. technical and constitutional background to this There will be three officers appointed to five- legislation and how we are fixing the issue. year terms, known as referees of the tribunal, Section 26 of the Commonwealth Native Title but they will not have the power to vote. These Act 1993—which I will refer to as the positions are essentially advisory to the work of NTA—provides that the right to negotiate the presiding members. They will assist in applies to the creation of a right to mine. This outcomes and they will assist in making this includes not just the mining leases, but also process work. They will be filled by eminently tenures that allow exploration and prospecting qualified people, but will not have voting rights and the extraction of petroleum or gas. on the tribunal. I stress that they will not have However, the grant of such tenures may be voting rights on the tribunal. I repeat: the excluded from the right to negotiate if the referees, like all panel members, will be Commonwealth Minister approves alternative eminently qualified people, but they will not State provisions that comply with requirements have voting rights on the tribunal. They will be outlined in sections 43 or 43A of the NTA. eminently qualified, they will be independent These were the subject of the Native Title people, but they will not have voting rights. (Queensland) State Provisions Amendment They are there to assist in the streamlining and Act (No. 2) 1998, passed by Parliament on 11 working of this process. They are a part of our November 1998 as part of our fix-it strategy. solution to this whole problem. In particular, the Commonwealth The first of the referees is the mediation conditions require that: objections be heard by referee, to reflect the important role that an independent body; that body when mediation plays in the State's response to determining objections include a member of native title issues and in keeping the State's the National Native Title Tribunal, the NNTT; "negotiation not litigation" policy at the and there is provision for compensation for the forefront of the tribunal's processes. This effect of an Act on native title and that any person will need to be a legal practitioner of at dispute about compensation must be least five years' standing, with sufficient determined by an independent person or understanding of alternative dispute resolution body. Without the legislation establishing the principles and practice. In other words, he or body to hear objections and determine she will be a person who can help to facilitate compensation, the State's native title regime an outcome. will not function at all. Secondly, there is the indigenous referee, This legislation creates the tribunal to reflect the importance of cultural heritage contemplated by the Native Title (Queensland) and indigenous issues in the work of the State Provisions Amendment (No. 2) Act 1998 tribunal. This person will need to have a high and is part of our solution to fix the problem. level of professional expertise in, for example, The tribunal is known as the Land and the resolution of cultural heritage issues and a Resources Tribunal. The legislation abolishes record of publications in a relevant field in the Warden's Court under the Mineral journals of high academic standing, or at least 19 Nov 1998 Land and Resources Tribunal Bill 3457 five years' experience in a managerial or by a multiple-member panel consisting of administrative role. Again, that will be a highly at least one presiding member—in some qualified person. cases the president; Thirdly, there is the mining referee. This allow the "day to day" proceedings to position replaces the position of the Mining continue to be heard by a single-member Warden, which is located in the portfolio of the panel because it is necessary to preserve Minister for Mines and Energy. The Mining some quick and cost-effective course for Warden position in that Minister's portfolio will the simple proceedings; cease to exist. The mining referee will be a new position specific to the tribunal, which will have as minimum as possible disruption be located in the Justice portfolio under my on the current processes under the colleague the Attorney-General and Minister Mineral Resources Act 1989; and for Justice and Minister for The Arts. The meet the requirements of the NTA for the mining referee must be a lawyer of at least five State's native title regime to become years' standing, with knowledge of the mining effective. industry and other relevant experience. The tribunal will have processes for dealing Additional and suitably qualified members with cultural heritage aspects of native title of the tribunal, known as non-presiding matters referred to the tribunal. For example, members, are to be appointed by the there will be processes for handling sensitive Governor in Council or ex-officio from the Land evidence of a cultural nature to ensure the Court and the land tribunals. These members proper level of confidentiality and respect for sit in an assessor role with a presiding the evidence, the persons giving it and the member, but, like the referees, they do not people from whom it comes. The tribunal will have voting rights. I repeat: they do not have also be sufficiently resourced to enable it to voting rights. They are there to assist in travel to regional centres to hear cases and making the process work. As members can make determinations. That will assist see, this is a very practical, workable model. streamlining and speedy decision making. This For convenience, the tribunal for a will be an important factor in its credibility and hearing where there is no native title issue can profile. consist of the mining referee alone sitting as a Although it forms part of the Justice single-member panel or as presiding member portfolio, the tribunal will be a separate and one or more non-presiding members administrative unit with its own budget and sitting as a multiple-member panel. Whether administrative systems. It will report separately the proceedings are heard by a single or to the Parliament through its Minister. This will multiple member panel is dependent upon a enable the Minister and the Government to number of factors including: monitor both the pressure on the tribunal and the nature of the mining application its performance. concerned; In this context I have asked the Attorney- the complexity of the subject matter; and General to establish a review of the operation the desire of the parties to the of the tribunal after it has been in existence for proceedings to have the matter heard by two years and to report to Cabinet on that a single or multiple-member panel. review so that Cabinet can review how it is performing and make any appropriate Where native title is in issue, all parties have changes, if necessary. access to a multiple-member panel comprised of a member or members to decide the issue, Importantly, the independent financial with additional panel members to assist the reporting of the tribunal will also facilitate presiding member on particular issues such as possible Commonwealth funding assistance cultural heritage and the taking of culturally for it, which my officers are currently discussing sensitive evidence from indigenous people. As with the Commonwealth Treasury. We would members would know, this is an area of some expect the Commonwealth to contribute in a sensitivity. It is also an area that has caused significant way in a funding sense to the some delay, which is why it is important that it operation of the tribunal. be dealt with in a way that produces an The jurisdiction of the tribunal may be outcome, but a fair outcome. summarised as follows— The tribunal model is designed to— those functions presently undertaken by ensure that proceedings involving the Warden and the Warden's Court in important projects, complex legal issues particular under the Mineral Resources or substantive legal rights can be heard Act 1989 and the Fossicking Act 1994 3458 Land and Resources Tribunal Bill 19 Nov 1998

less the penal provisions which are This legislation, as with the State native transferred to the courts; title regime in general, will not become law until those functions which will be required by after the legislation has been nominated by the Native Title (Queensland) State me to the Commonwealth Attorney-General. Provisions Amendment Act (No. 2) 1998 However, unlike the legislation passed last which provides the alternative State week, only the Commonwealth Minister, and provisions for the Mineral Resources Act not the Senate, has to be satisfied that the 1989 and the Fossicking Act 1994; Land and Resource Tribunal is an "independent body" for the purposes of the an exclusive jurisdiction with respect to the NTS. enforcement and interpretation of negotiated agreements under the Native The Bill amends the Acts Interpretation Title (Queensland) State Provisions Act 1954 to include the Land and Resources Amendment Act (No. 2) 1998; Tribunal and makes necessary amendments to the Fossicking Act 1994, Judges (Salaries a jurisdiction arising under the Cultural and Allowances) Act 1967, and the Mineral Record (Landscapes Queensland and Resources Act 1989 to reflect the Queensland Estate) Act 1987; and establishment of the tribunal. the recipient of a future jurisdiction for As with the other elements of the those future Acts which will be legislated Government's native title package, this Bill has for next year such as hard-rock quarrying been the subject of consultation with the key and compulsory acquisitions, etc. stakeholders in an unprecedented way. This The tribunal is styled as a "tribunal" rather than has not happened anywhere else in Australia. a "court" for solid reasons. Given that the As I said last week, we have involved people decisions of the tribunal are subject to from the fishing industry and people such as Ministerial override it is not appropriate that the small miners, who have never been involved in independent body which is established under this process anywhere else in Australia. It has the Bill be described as a court. It is for this also involved the other stakeholders that I same reason that the presiding members, have mentioned—the mining industry, the while equivalent in all aspects to judges, are pastoralists and indigenous leaders. I am not in fact to be appointed as judges. confident that it has their support. The Commonwealth NTA requires that a Consultation has occurred with member of the National Native Title Tribunal, representatives from indigenous, pastoral and or NNTT, participate in the determination of an mining interests through and outside the objection under the ASP. It is my preferred Native Title Working Group. The model position that the presiding members of the proposed in the Bill was discussed with tribunal will also become members of the Commonwealth officials. I must also observe NNTT. The Bill provides for compliance with that the tribunal is integral to the State native this requirement in any case. title regime, which will have a beneficial impact In other words, the fact that there was this on stalled mineral development projects— Commonwealth requirement in effect stalled, I might add, by the deliberate inaction determined that it would become a tribunal of the Leader of the Opposition when he was and not a court, because of the need, as I in Government. said, under the Commonwealth NTA legislation In the medium to long term, my for the requirement that a member of the Government's response to native title will National Native Title Tribunal participate in the provide an additional revenue base to the determination of an objection under the ASP. State. Today, I was intrigued to hear the That was the source of some drafting Leader of the Opposition trying to blame our difficulties for us and caused some angst, native title legislation for delays in Century which is why we had to come up with this Zinc, when in fact the legislation does not solution. Had that Commonwealth requirement come into effect until it is approved by the not been in existence, it would have been Commonwealth. The existing law that operates much easier for us. Nevertheless, because it is at the moment, outside the validation in existence, because it is the law, we have legislation we passed initially, is in fact a law complied with it and drafted accordingly. passed by the coalition at a Federal and State However, I do not want any suggestion of level. As I said, the only exception to that is criticism as a result of this matter not being a the validation legislation of leases between court but rather a tribunal; it has largely come 1994 and 1996. This legislation will also have about because of Federal requirements. an important impact on job generation which, if 19 Nov 1998 Revenue and Other Legislation Amendment Bill 3459 the Opposition has missed the point, is what legislation as a model and is in fact my Government is about. threatening to withdraw his legislation. If he I said earlier that this legislation, and does so, the full right to negotiate applies in indeed the whole package of legislation Western Australia. That belligerent, childish containing the Queensland native title attitude will not achieve what he wants. What response, has to be referred to the he should do is come up with the workable, Commonwealth Attorney-General. It would be practical model that we have implemented and reasonable to expect this process to take follow the advice of the Upper House in some months. Therefore, the introduction of Western Australia. the Queensland regime may take a little while As I said, the State's native title response, for reasons beyond our control. In the which I have developed over the past few meantime, let me make one point very clear: I months in consultation with the stakeholders, expect this regime to be operational by June is based upon fairness—fairness of principle next year—that is our program—and if there is and fairness in process. But at the end of the any delay that will not be our fault, that will be day, any party who does not play fair can the Commonwealth Government's fault. expect a measured, fair but very clear Nevertheless, there is another point that I want message from my Government. to make very clear. No-one should be under Finally, I thank again the major interest any illusions that they can get away with groups for their comments on this legislation. I delaying negotiations in which they might acknowledge also the efforts of the officers of currently be involved in the foolish hope that my department, who have again redefined the they might have a better chance under the working day so that this legislation can be State's new rules. This warning applies equally brought before the Parliament to meet the to any party—mining company or indigenous commitment I gave four months ago. I stress interest. that I promised the people of Queensland that The opportunities for and the potential of we would have this legislation in the Queensland are without limit. However, the Parliament before the end of the year. I patience of this Government does have limits. promised the people of Queensland that we There are several projects currently bogged would legislate to resolve and fix this issue. down in apparently fruitless talks, such as the This is the third piece of legislation that we NORQEB power dispute. Over the Christmas have introduced into this Parliament—having break, I will be keeping a close eye on been in Government only for about four and a developments in these matters—and up until half months—to fix this issue of native title. I then as well. My Government will take have kept my word to the people of whatever action is necessary if resolution of Queensland. We have delivered a model to fix these issues is frustrated by the unreasonable this issue. I commend the Bill to the House. actions of any party. I give a very clear warning Debate, on motion of Mr Beanland, tonight in the Parliament: we will not sit by and adjourned. allow these projects to be delayed by unreasonable actions of any party. Everyone involved has now been put very clearly on REVENUE AND OTHER LEGISLATION notice. No-one in this Parliament or in the AMENDMENT BILL community should be surprised if the Hon. D. J. HAMILL (Ipswich—ALP) Government moves quickly, as we are doing, (Treasurer) (7.50 p.m.), by leave, without to resolve some of these outstanding issues. notice: I move— The State's native title response that I "That leave be granted to bring in a have developed over the past few months is Bill for an Act to amend certain Acts based upon fairness—fairness of principle and administered by the Treasurer." fairness in process. I noticed in the Australian today that the Court Government in Western Motion agreed to. Australia is still trying to play a very draconian role. As I said, I noticed in the Australian that First Reading the Upper House in Western Australia is considering amendments adopted by the Bill and Explanatory Notes presented and Queensland Parliament and sees our Bill, on motion of Mr Hamill, read a first time. Queensland legislation as a precedent for dealing with these sorts of issues. The Premier of Western Australia is behaving in a very Second Reading belligerent way, trying to resist the Upper Hon. D. J. HAMILL (Ipswich—ALP) House in Western Australia pursuing our (Treasurer) (7.50 p.m.): I move— 3460 Revenue and Other Legislation Amendment Bill 19 Nov 1998

"That the Bill be now read a second purchased subsidised diesel for off-road time." purposes to use small quantities of that diesel The Revenue and Other Legislation in an on-road vehicle in limited circumstances. Amendment Bill makes a number of important This arrangement recognises that it is often amendments to Queensland's revenue very difficult to determine the volume of diesel legislation to foster equity of taxation treatment to be used for on-road and off-road purposes and simplicity of revenue administration. at the time of purchase and that a requirement Following recommendations made by the for two separate licences to be used in these Wallis report to encourage competition in the circumstances would be unnecessarily provision of financial services, the onerous. Primary producers, in particular, Commonwealth Government amended the benefit from these arrangements as they are Cheques and Payment Orders Act 1986 to now permitted to use diesel purchased under extend cheque issuing rights to building their off-road licences in their utility or delivery societies, credit unions and their industry vehicle as long as the diesel is used for special services providers. At the same time, domestic purposes or is used for purposes changes to Australia's banking laws are taking associated with the business for which the off- place to cover a broader range of deposit road licence is held. taking institutions than simply banks. As these The second arrangement recognises that institutions will be entitled to compete on an fuel sellers who purchase fuel at the equal footing with banks in relation to the Commonwealth surcharge inclusive price issuing of cheques, it is appropriate that they should not be financially disadvantaged by the also compete on a level playing field from a scheme. The Fuel Subsidy Act currently State taxation perspective. implies terms of trade in contracts entered into Amendment of the Debits Tax Act 1990 is by registered fuel distributors with therefore necessary to make debits to cheque manufacturers and importers. These terms accounts with credit unions, building societies defer the payment of the surcharge or their special service providers and component of the invoiced price of fuel until authorised deposit taking institutions under the the date that subsidies are payable by the Commonwealth's Banking Act 1959 liable to Office of State Revenue. However, these debits tax in their name, as opposed to arrangements do not extend to sales by through other banking institutions, from the distributors to other distributors, which same date that the Commonwealth disadvantages those further down the amendments have effect. Industry has been distribution chain. The amendment to the Fuel advised that these essentially "tidying up" Subsidy Act rectifies this by implying terms of amendments will commence on 1 December trade in all contracts with registered 1998 and of the need to pay debits tax on distributors. relevant accounts under the revised format The third administrative arrangement was from this date. implemented to ensure that licensed bulk end Following a 1997 High Court decision users who fail to lodge an annual return by the which invalidated State licensing fees and the due date do not automatically become Commonwealth's subsequent introduction of unlicensed. The amendment to the Fuel safety net arrangements to protect States' Subsidy Act ensures that it is possible for the revenues, the Fuel Subsidy Act 1997 was commissioner to extend the time for lodgment introduced to provide for the payment of of the return where the commissioner is subsidies equivalent to the fuel surcharge satisfied that the licensee would, if applying for levied by the Commonwealth. The a bulk end user's licence, be entitled to that Government is committed to ensuring that the licence. scheme operates as effectively and efficiently Of course, there needs to be a limit on as possible. To achieve this objective, it has the extent to which an extension of time to been necessary to implement arrangements to lodge the return may be granted. In addition, reduce red tape and minimise costs for fuel where a person fails to lodge a return as consumers and the Office of State Revenue, required, the licence will be automatically which administers the scheme. These cancelled from the date that the return was administrative arrangements deliver significant originally due. This ensures that a person who benefits and are being given retrospective is no longer entitled to be licensed gains no effect by this Bill. financial advantage by failing to lodge a return By modifying the off-road diesel by the due date. consumer's scheme, the first of these To ensure that fuel subsidies continue to arrangements allows a person who has be paid on the appropriate basis, the Fuel 19 Nov 1998 Revenue and Other Legislation Amendment Bill 3461

Subsidy Act is also being amended to reflect A financial benefit received by the first changes made by the Commonwealth earlier purchaser will include an indirect financial this year to the classification of fuel products. benefit. For example, the purchaser under the While these arrangements are designed to first contract may arrange for the replacement streamline the operation of the fuel subsidy purchaser to purchase the property for scheme, it should be noted that the scheme is payment of the same amount as that under costing Queensland taxpayers $60m per the first contract and for a fee or some other annum as the payments received from the consideration for the first purchaser agreeing Commonwealth under the temporary safety to terminate the first contract. If the fee or net arrangements are insufficient to meet the consideration were paid to the first purchaser's full cost of the scheme. It should be noted that spouse, family trust or related company, the the Commonwealth Government will first purchaser would have received an indirect discontinue these safety net arrangements on financial benefit and duty would remain 1 July 2000 as part of its GST agenda. chargeable on the first contract. Equity requires that all taxpayers pay the The requirement that the first purchaser same amount of tax where their situations are obtains some financial benefit will ensure that the same and that any opportunities for no duty will be payable where the new contract avoidance of tax be eliminated. If it were is made to modify the purchasers rather than otherwise, complying taxpayers would be at a to effect a subsale. For example, a refund of clear disadvantage compared with their non- duty would be made for a contract by a wife to compliant counterparts. For this reason, the purchase a house when the contract is early closure of avoidance opportunities is replaced by a contract with the husband and essential. In this regard, there have been three wife as joint purchasers or with the couple's recent judicial decisions raising stamp duty family trust. avoidance opportunities which are being The second issue arose following the addressed in this Bill. Queensland Court of Appeal's decision in The first of these arose following the Thakral Fidelity Pty Ltd v Commissioner of decision of the Queensland Court of Appeal in Stamp Duties. Under the Stamp Act, Barob Pty Ltd v Commissioner of Stamp conveyance stamp duty is payable under Duties. Under the Stamp Act 1894, section 56B on the transfer, allotment or conveyance stamp duty is charged on a redemption of a unit in a unit trust scheme contract for the sale of property, but a refund unless the trust is a public unit trust scheme. A of duty may be made where a contract is unit trust scheme will be regarded as public rescinded. However, no refund should apply where certain conditions are satisfied, including where one contract is replaced by another spread of ownership requirements. As it is not contract if the arrangement effects a subsale possible for unit trust schemes to meet these by the first purchaser. This is because duty is requirements from the outset, a unit trust properly payable on both sales—from the scheme will be regarded as public where the vendor to the first purchaser and from the first commissioner is satisfied that units will be purchaser to the final purchaser. Collapsing issued to the appropriate extent within 12 both contracts into a single contract should not months of the approval of the deed under the change that result. Corporations Law. However, the Court of Section 54(8) of the Stamp Act is directed Appeal's decision highlighted that this at rescission of this type and was thought to concession does not prevent disposition of preclude a refund on the first sale. However, units other than to the public within the 12- the Court of Appeal in the Barob case held month period. that the provision only applies in limited This deficiency in section 56B(1A) is being circumstances. That is, a subsale may be rectified by conferring public unit trust scheme effected with the payment of duty on only one status on a unit trust scheme from immediately of the transactions as long as the first contract before the first issue to the public if the spread does not specifically mention the possibility of of ownership requirements are met within 12 its rescission and replacement with another months after the issue and all dispositions in contract. To overcome this anomaly, section the 12-month period relate to units held by, or 54 of the Stamp Act is being amended so that to be issued to, the public. This Bill will also duty will continue to be payable on a contract if change the definition of the commencement it is terminated as part of an arrangement that of the 12-month period so that it will now begin the property be transferred to another person, from the first issue to the public. This change is alone or with the original purchaser, and the necessary following removal of the approved original purchaser gains a financial benefit deed requirements by the Commonwealth's from the arrangement. Managed Investments Act. 3462 Gaming Machine and Other Legislation Amendment Bill 19 Nov 1998

Thirdly, the Victorian Court of Appeal's avoidance opportunities. I commend the Bill to decision in Coles Myer Ltd v Commissioner of the House. State Revenue held that share buyback Debate, on motion of Mr Borbidge, transfers under the Corporations Law are not adjourned. liable for stamp duty as there is no dutiable transfer of shares. Before this decision, share buyback transfers were subject to conveyance GAMING MACHINE AND OTHER duty in Queensland and most other LEGISLATION AMENDMENT BILL jurisdictions. However, the decision opens up the possibility of changing company ownership Hon. D. J. HAMILL (Ipswich—ALP) without paying conveyance duty. To address (Treasurer) (8.04 p.m.), by leave, without this opportunity for avoidance, the Stamp Act notice: I move— is being amended to ensure that transfers "That leave be granted to bring in a effecting share buyback agreements continue Bill for an Act to amend the Gaming to attract stamp duty, as was previously the Machine Act 1991 and certain other case. A number of other jurisdictions are in the Acts." process of enacting similar legislation, some Motion agreed to. retrospectively. An important concession which this Bill delivers to Queensland investors is the First Reading provision of an exemption from stamp duty on Bill and Explanatory Notes presented and the transfer of the Series 2 Suncorp-Metway Bill, on motion of Mr Hamill, read a first time. Exchanging Instalment Notes which were offered to the public on 8 October this year. These notes provide Queenslanders with the Second Reading opportunity to receive a competitive, Hon. D. J. HAMILL (Ipswich—ALP) Government-guaranteed return for three years (Treasurer) (8.04 p.m.): I move— and to invest in Suncorp-Metway. The Beattie Labor Government is committed to using the "That the Bill be now read a second proceeds from the offer as part of its job time." creation strategy by reinvesting funds in major This Bill will amend the Gaming Machine new capital projects and new capital assets Act 1991. The Act is the primary legislative which will provide a boost to economic growth measure regulating the operation of gaming and the development of the State. machines in Queensland's licensed clubs and Unlike the southern States, the on-market hotels. The House may recall the changes to transfer of these notes would have been liable the Act in 1997 and in March 1998 to for Queensland stamp duty when an order for implement a new gaming machine regulatory the sale or purchase of the notes was placed environment. These changes included matters with a Queensland broker. To ensure that such as the ownership of gaming machines smaller Queensland investors in particular were and the licensing of third-party operators to not disadvantaged, the public offer document monitor gaming machines, known as licensed noted that an exemption would be provided for monitoring operators, or LMOs. It also included the on and off market transfer of these notes the leasing and subleasing of gaming from the date of their first trade. This Bill gives machines by licensed monitoring operators effect to that arrangement. and approved financiers, together with related matters such as procedures for the approval of Finally, the Office of State Revenue is linked jackpot arrangements. currently remaking the regulations under the Stamp Act, Payroll Tax Act 1971 and Land This Bill introduces a further round of Tax Act 1915 pursuant to the Statutory changes to the Act in line with previous and Instruments Act 1992. This Bill ensures the continuing industry consultation. It also preservation of the existing legislative schemes addresses problems clearly evident in the Act for these taxes by continuing the effect of left by the previous Borbidge Government, and provisions where the existence of regulation which has caused considerable concern to the making powers is in doubt. club and hotel industries—particularly the belief the "spirit" of the Gaming Machine Act was As I have mentioned, this Bill is important being undermined. While the amendments are for the continuing integrity of Queensland's primarily administrative in nature, certain taxation arrangements as it ensures their provisions have been included to ensure that efficient and effective operation and addresses licensed monitoring operators and clubs 19 Nov 1998 Gaming Machine and Other Legislation Amendment Bill 3463 continue to act in the best interests of clubs The Government is greatly concerned, and their clubs' members. however, that LMOs are seeking to play a The key amendments will provide for the much wider role than the Parliament licensing of gaming nominees, changes in the envisaged when the coalition Government licensing of machine managers, extending the amended the Act in 1997. In addition to term of most licences from two years to five monitoring services and linked jackpots, LMOs years and a number of other minor are seeking to enter into general financing administrative amendments. The legislation will arrangements of clubs in return for a also give effect to the Government's percentage of the gaming machine revenue commitment to the club industry to implement from the clubs. a package of legislative changes which will Both the club and hotel industries have prohibit entrepreneurial activities being raised grave concerns at this development. conducted to the detriment of clubs and their The Government shares this concern that the members. role of LMOs, as the intermediary between club and hotel management and machine The introduction of gaming machines to manufacturers, is being blurred by LMOs Queensland by the Goss Labor Government in obtaining a position which is more closely 1992 provided the catalyst for enormous aligned to that club and hotel management growth in the club industry. Millions of dollars interests. have been pumped into the State's economy through increased employment and the Licensed clubs hold to the view that clubs expansion and renovation programs at clubs exist for their members, and to provide and at a significant number of hotels. In benefits to the communities they serve addition, grants totalling in excess of $66m, through funding sporting or cultural activities or funded principally from gaming machine taxes, social services. Funds flowing to LMOs under have been distributed by the Gaming Machine gaming revenue sharing arrangements are Community Benefit Fund since its inception in seen as reducing the capacity of clubs to meet 1993, to assist some 9,000 eligible these objectives. Further, concerns have also organisations throughout Queensland. been raised that an inherent part of these Furthermore, it is projected that $18m in grants financial arrangements may involve a will be distributed to approximately 2,400 diminution of the capacity of clubs to fully projects in 1998-99. The Gaming Machine control their own affairs. The Beattie Community Benefit Fund has greatly assisted Government is determined that no club will local sporting, cultural and community groups lose control of its own destiny. This carry out their activities. Government therefore stands ready to act decisively against the development of The 1996 review of Queensland gaming schemes that could be used to line the machine regulatory arrangements, known as pockets of individuals or entrepreneurs at the the white paper, examined the long-term expense of clubs and their members. It has future of the industry and foreshadowed a never been the intention of the Government number of changes. These included the for clubs to be used as a device for individual introduction of LMOs which would undertake gain. monitoring of gaming machines and provide a range of other services to gaming sites, such The legislation contains a number of as management and marketing, assessment provisions to strengthen the powers of the and advice, training, and sale or rental of Queensland Office of Gaming Regulation and machines. the Queensland Gaming Commission to ensure that clubs continue to be controlled by The Gaming Machine Act 1991 was appropriately elected officials and operate in amended by the former Government in July the best interests of club members. First and 1997 to provide that arrangements could be foremost, the Bill seeks to amend section 189 made whereby an LMO could provide services of the Act. This section prohibits the provision to a gaming machine site in return for a share of goods or services to a licensee in return for of the gaming machine revenues from the site. a direct or indirect interest in or percentage of A number of LMOs have taken advantage of gaming revenue. Currently, the provision also that amendment by offering linked jackpots to incorporates an exception to this blanket sites in return for a percentage of gaming prohibition which permits a licensed operator to machine revenue. This practice is recognised obtain a percentage of gaming revenue for by the Queensland club and hotel industry as monitoring a site's machines in conjunction putting the industry in Queensland on a par with supplying other services. The Bill will with New South Wales and Victoria as well as provide the strongest possible message to the providing a mechanism for industry innovation. industry that the Government will not allow the 3464 Gaming Machine and Other Legislation Amendment Bill 19 Nov 1998 channelling of legitimate club revenues to suspending or cancelling a LMO's licence. parties other than the club itself. This Fourthly, through clause 43 of the Bill, the amendment will essentially restore the Queensland Gaming Commission will be able arrangements which existed prior to 1 July to appoint an administrator to a LMO where its 1997 when the coalition's 1997 Act came into contravention of the Act warrants such action. force. As such, this amendment will have This is in addition to powers to censure LMOs, retrospective effect to that date. direct them to rectify a situation, cancel or For practical reasons, this change will suspend their operator's licence. exclude the provision of linked jackpots where Fifthly, under clause 50, the Bill will the industry recognises that there is no strengthen financial reporting requirements of alternative mechanism for equitably charging LMOs to allow the QOGR to review all receipts for these services. However, the amendment and payments of the operator in the course of does not prevent LMOs or indeed any other its dealings with sites and machine financiers entering into contracts with clubs or manufacturers. Sixthly, a new section— hotels to provide services on a fee-for-service amending clause 112—has also been basis, or loans on a commercial basis—it included in the Bill to make it an offence for a merely proscribes the taking of a share of person to be able to have control over, or the gaming revenue as consideration in such ability to control, the conduct of gaming at a contracts. club, unless the person is acting in an official I point out that while this change will affect capacity on behalf of the club. This will ensure the competitive activities of LMOs, it places that the club has the full, free and unfettered LMOs in a similar position to other financiers in control of the conduct of gaming at the that, subject to the Act, they cannot provide licensed premises. finance where repayment is linked to gaming Finally, another new provision, clause 93, profits or turnover. Under National Competition amending section 148A, will incorporate anti- Policy guidelines, it will be necessary to corruption measures and will target nefarious conduct a public interest test in respect of this activities which have been reported in other provision. This test will be carried out over the jurisdictions, such as where secret period prior to debate on this clause, and its commissions may be paid to persons in findings will be taken into account at that time. connection with the purchase, lease, sublease The second objective of the Bill is to or financing of gaming equipment, or the amend both initial club licensing provisions and provision of services. For example, an provisions which state the grounds for organisation will not be able to offer a person a cancellation or suspension of a club's gaming benefit, such as a trip to Nevada, to induce the machine licence to— person to influence a club to purchase that organisation's equipment or services. The ensure the election of club management remains clearly in the hands of the club's definition of a "person" would encompass club membership; managers, hotel managers and board members. place control of club operations clearly in the hands of the committee or board of In incorporating this provision I am finally the club; and able to act upon the concerns I raised when the first phase of white paper amendments provide that contractual arrangements were before this House in May 1997. It was entered into by the club are not to be for then that I stated my concerns that kickbacks the purpose of private profit. and other forms of corruption could seep into This means that the Queensland Gaming the industry. The Government considers that Commission must refuse to grant a gaming such activities strike at the heart of maintaining machine licence to a club if the commission a clean industry in Queensland and will provide considers that the club's management a penalty of $75,000, or five years' committee does not have control of its own imprisonment, for violation of the section. destiny. It also permits the commission to In addition to these amendments, I draw censure a club or suspend or cancel its licence the honourable members' attention to section if it fails to act in the best interests of the club 184. This section has been in the legislation or allows the club to be used for private profit. since its enactment and enables the chief Thirdly, the Bill, under clause 39, executive to review agreements made by incorporates a provision that being a party to licence holders, or manufacturers or suppliers. or inducing a club to commit an action which If the QOGR reviews the agreements and was a ground for cancellation or suspension of considers that the agreement is not in the its licence would also be a ground for public interest or jeopardises the integrity of 19 Nov 1998 Justice Legislation (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 3465 gaming or the conduct of gaming, the QOGR problems and uncertainties left in the Gaming may issue a written notice to show cause why Machine Act by the previous coalition the agreement should not be terminated. At Government, and signals the Beattie the conclusion of the show-cause process, the Government's intentions to foster a robust and Queensland Gaming Commission may secure club, hotel and gaming industry in this terminate that undesirable agreement. State. As I stated earlier, the amendments I In conclusion, I would like to thank the have outlined are designed to strengthen the industry for providing valuable input into this powers of the Queensland Office of Gaming Bill. I am committed to ensuring the Regulation and the Queensland Gaming continuation of the open dialogue which has Commission. This will enable the commission taken place between the industry and to take firm and comprehensive action against Government. I invite further discussion to occur any individual or corporation who attempts to among the club and hotel industry, licensed subvert the ability of clubs to provide services operators, my Parliamentary Secretary and to their members and the local community. myself. I am aware that the Queensland Office In addition to strong provisions to support of Gaming Regulation has offered to provide a the ongoing viability of the club industry, the forum for detailed analysis of the provisions of Bill also provides for the licensing of gaming this legislation with clubs, hotels and LMO nominees. This will mean that all clubs and representatives, and I look forward to the hotels that conduct business under a outcome of these discussions. My corporate structure, or an individual hotelier Parliamentary Secretary will have prime with more than one gaming machine licence, responsibility for overseeing these further will be required to identify and license an consultations and for monitoring the accountable person to ensure that gaming implementation of changes I am announcing machine operations are conducted in today. Together, I believe that we can ensure accordance with the legislation. It is likely that Queensland industry continues to prosper and the gaming nominee will in most instances be provide benefits to the community. I commend the same person as the nominee for the the Bill to the House. purposes of the Liquor Act 1992. Debate, on motion of Mr Borbidge, Other provisions in this Bill include adjourned. changes in the licensing of machine managers who will be known as gaming employees, JUSTICE LEGISLATION (MISCELLANEOUS extending the term of most licences from two PROVISIONS) BILL years to five years and a number of other minor administrative amendments. The Hon. M. J. FOLEY (Yeronga—ALP) opportunity has also been taken to make (Attorney-General and Minister for Justice and minor amendments to the Casino Control Act Minister for The Arts) (8.20 p.m.), by leave, 1982, the Interactive Gambling (Player without notice: I move— Protection) Act 1998, the Keno Act 1996, the "That leave be granted to bring in a Lotteries Act 1997 and the Wagering Act Bill for an Act to amend Acts administered 1998. by the Attorney-General and Minister for Justice and Minister for The Arts." In order to deal with the pressing issues concerning the role of LMOs and other Motion agreed to. entrepreneurial activities affecting the control of clubs, other amendments flowing from the First Reading white paper process have been omitted from this round of amendments. They will be Bill and Explanatory Notes presented and considered for introduction into Parliament in a Bill, on motion of Mr Foley, read a first time. further Bill early in 1999. Because of recent uncertainty and concerns in the club and hotel Second Reading industries, it is this Government's intention to comprehensively scrutinise changes that have Hon. M. J. FOLEY (Yeronga—ALP) flowed from the 1997 amendments and to (Attorney-General and Minister for Justice and monitor the changes I am introducing today. Minister for The Arts) (8.21 p.m.): I move— This Bill is necessary to address the issue "That the Bill be now read a second of entrepreneurial activities expeditiously and time." to continue implementing a package of The proposed Bill contains minor or changes developed in consultation with technical amendments to a number of statutes industry participants. It addresses the directed at curing anomalies, correcting minor 3466 Integrated Planning and Other Legislation Amendment Bill (No. 2) 19 Nov 1998 errors, repealing obsolete provisions and for a bail hearing on two days' notice. generally tidying up the Department of Justice However, without a change of circumstances, and Attorney-General's list of statutes. The successive applications for bail will usually not Department of Justice and Attorney-General is be successful. The Act presently does not responsible for the administration of over 90 provide a clear basis for an appeal by the statutes and, as a result, there is a necessity prosecution. It does allow the prosecution to for a large number of minor or technical apply to revoke bail, but this is arguably only amendments to be regularly made to various intended to cover the situation where an legislative provisions to ensure that the accused has breached bail in some way (for statutes continue to operate in the manner example, by not appearing in court when intended. To ensure this occurs, from time to required or by not reporting to police if that was time a departmental miscellaneous provisions a condition of bail) or if the surety seeks to Bill is prepared so that the minor or technical withdraw. In these situations bail may not amendments needed can be effected by necessarily even be revoked, instead it might means of one statute. This ensures that much- be varied in some way. needed statutory reform is not delayed and To clarify the situation and to provide a the time of the Parliament is not unnecessarily more appropriate system of review for the expended on dealing with a number of benefit of the accused, this Bill amends the disparate pieces of legislation each of which Bail Act 1980 to allow for review by higher would be of a relatively minor nature. courts of decisions granting or refusing bail. This Bill makes amendments to 13 Acts The Bill provides for the amendment of the within my portfolio. The most important financial transactions Act 1992 to allow the amendments, in my view, are the Queensland Crime Commission or an amendments to the Bail Act 1980. Elements authorised Queensland Crime Commission of these amendments are the same as those officer who is carrying out an investigation introduced by my predecessor in a similarly arising from reports of suspected transactions named Bill which is now lapsed. These to adequately discharge its functions. amendments introduce another procedure for An amendment is made to the Property the review of certain bail decisions. Law Act 1974 to require that a cheque used in By way of information, when a person is the settlement of the sale of land may be a charged with an offence, the police are obliged financial institution cheque drawn on itself or a to bring that person before a court where it will bank. This amendment follows the same policy be the responsibility of the magistrate (or underlying the enactment of the miscellaneous justices) to consider the issue of bail. If, Acts (non-bank financial institutions) Act 1997. however, it is not practicable to bring the Such an amendment will contribute to the person before a court forthwith, the police may underlying philosophy of competitive neutrality grant bail. This is what is commonly referred to between banks and non-bank deposit-taking as "watch-house bail". If released on bail, it is institutions as they are currently categorised. then the responsibility of the defendant to Like my predecessor, it is envisaged that I appear before the magistrate in accordance shall also use departmental miscellaneous with the bail undertaking. provisions Bills to ensure that much-needed Apart from watch-house bail, bail may be statutory modernisation is not delayed and the granted by— time of the Parliament is not unnecessarily expended on a number of disparate pieces of (a) Magistrates Courts during criminal legislation each of which would be of a proceedings and at the conclusion of a relatively minor nature in terms of size. I committal proceeding; commend the Bill to the House. (b) the District and Supreme Courts after Debate, on motion of Mr Springborg, a person has been committed for trial adjourned. before those courts; (c) the Supreme Court, which has an overriding jurisdiction to grant bail at any INTEGRATED PLANNING AND OTHER time; and LEGISLATION AMENDMENT BILL (No. 2) Hon. T. M. MACKENROTH (Chatsworth— (d) the Court of Appeal. ALP) (Minister for Communication and As the accused moves through the Information and Minister for Local system, bail is usually enlarged at each Government, Planning, Regional and Rural successive court appearance. An accused Communities) (8.26 p.m.), by leave, without person who has been refused bail can apply notice: I move— 19 Nov 1998 Integrated Planning and Other Legislation Amendment Bill (No. 2) 3467

"That leave be granted to bring in a to integrate about 60 separate approval Bill for an Act to amend legislation about processes into this single system. integrated planning." Since the Integrated Planning Act commenced Motion agreed to. in March this year the development assessment regimes in the repealed Local Government (Planning and Environment) Act, the Building First Reading Act and the Environmental Protection Act have commenced operation within IDAS. The Bill and Explanatory Notes presented and proposed amendments to the Transport Bill, on motion of Mr Mackenroth, read a first Infrastructure Act represent the next step in the time. implementation process. The Transport Infrastructure Act contains various assessment processes about Second Reading development affecting State-controlled roads, Hon. T. M. MACKENROTH (Chatsworth— on strategic port land, for railways and ALP) (Minister for Communication and miscellaneous transport infrastructure. This Bill only deals with those provisions establishing Information and Minister for Local the powers and responsibilities of the Government, Planning, Regional and Rural Department of Main Roads for dealing with Communities) (8.27 p.m.): I move— development which impacts on State-controlled "That the Bill be now read a second roads infrastructure. Further legislation will be time." brought forward at a later stage to integrate the other development assessment processes in The Integrated Planning and Other the Transport Infrastructure Act within IDAS. Legislation Amendment Bill (No. 2) proposes Section 40 of the Transport Infrastructure Act changes to the Transport Infrastructure Act, currently requires a local Government to obtain and to related provisions of the Integrated the approval of the Department of Main Roads Planning Act to integrate within the integrated before approving certain subdivisions, development assessment system (IDAS) the rezonings or development of land. The section assessment provisions for development having authorises the Department of Main Roads to an impact on State-controlled roads. In require the local Government to impose addition, as part of the ongoing refinement of conditions about monetary contributions, off- site works, and other conditions on the Integrated Planning Act, the Bill clarifies development approvals . the operation of, and makes some minor corrections to, other provisions of the The proposed Bill removes this process from Integrated Planning Act. The Bill also repeals the Transport Infrastructure Act and provides similar powers under the Integrated Planning redundant provisions of the Stock Act. Act. I seek leave to have incorporated in In addition, related amendments are made to Hansard the remainder of the second-reading the Integrated Planning Act to provide for : speech. ¥ a regulation to prescribe additional Leave granted. circumstances specific to State-controlled roads infrastructure where cost impact This is the second Integrated Planning Act conditions may be imposed and Amendment Bill I have introduced this year. As I explained previously, the Integrated Planning ¥ to provide for the Roads Implementation Act is a fundamental reform of the way planning Program, a publicly notified program of and development is administered in works, to operate as a form of benchmark Queensland. The Act was passed by the development sequence until actual previous coalition Government late last year. sequences are developed and included in The essential components of this Act are, planning schemes. This is a transitional however, the same as those proposed by the measure with a limited life of up to 5 years. former Goss Government in its proposed Amendments will also need to be made to the planning and development legislation then Integrated Planning Regulation— once this Bill known as the Planning Environment and is passed—to specify the types of Development Assessment Bill. development which will "trigger" referral of That Bill had at its core an integrated development applications to the Department of development assessment system. The same Main Roads. The amendments to the regulation system, known as IDAS, is the cornerstone of are integral to the operation of the legislation the current Act. When fully implemented, IDAS proposed today if the Department of Main will be a single system for the administration of Roads is to become a concurrence agency all development related assessment in under IDAS. Queensland. The achievement of this single The operation of section 40 has been of long system involves the consequential amendment standing concern of the development industry. of a substantial number of Acts and regulations The integration of section 40 processes into 3468 Integrated Planning and Other Legislation Amendment Bill (No. 2) 19 Nov 1998

the Integrated Planning Act will clarify the recent Court of Appeal decision suggests Department of Main Roads' role in development however, that uses could be lawfully assessment and the scope of their powers in established other than under the previous Act. relation to conditions, works, and contributions. The amendment removes the reference to the The amendments have been drafted in the light previous Act as the source of lawfulness and of feedback received from key stakeholders, ensures that all lawfully established uses are including the Local Government Association of recognised and protected. Queensland, the Urban Development Institute Secondly this Bill puts beyond doubt the intent of Australia and the Northern Development of the Act that development includes the Industry Association. These stakeholders have ongoing management of an activity which is the indicated their support for this Bill, while subject of a development approval, and that recognising that some matters in relation to the conditions dealing with the operation or amendments to the regulation are still to be management of the activity may satisfy the test resolved. for reasonableness and relevance under the Act. This amendment is made retrospective to In addition to the amendments to the Transport the date of commencement of the Integrated Infrastructure Act, this Bill proposes minor Planning Act to ensure all permits issued since amendments to the Stock Act by repealing 30 March 1998 containing use related provisions about the licensing of feedlots. The conditions are recognised. feedlot licensing provisions were inserted in the Stock Act in 1989 to provide for the This ensures certainty, both for permit holders management of the environmental impacts of and the public generally in that the operating the industry. They were superseded by the parameters established under permits (and set designation of cattle feedlotting as an in good faith) are valid and able to be environmentally relevant activity under the honoured. It also should be pointed out the Environmental Protection Act. That Act is amendment merely clarifies what was the case specifically designed to address the under the previous planning legislation, and the environmental sustainability of environmentally environmental legislation, that operating relevant activities. The Environmental conditions could be imposed. The effect of the Protection Act has, since 1996, required cattle provision is that for development approved feedlot operators holding licences under the since 30 March 1998, the public can anticipate Stock Act to be relicensed under the with certainty and in good faith how Environmental Protection Act. Since 1 July development will operate, and developers will 1998 the environmental licensing provisions of know their permits are lawful. the Environmental Protection Act have been Amendments relating to the definitions of integrated with IDAS. assessable and self assessable development for The licences which still remain in place under transitional planning schemes are also proposed the Stock Act will be automatically terminated to put beyond doubt that the enforcement upon the repeal of the provisions. The repeal of provisions under the Integrated Planning Act these provisions and the termination of apply equally to development under both remaining licences will reduce the regulatory transitional and integrated planning Act burden on the feedlot industry by reducing schemes. inspection fees. In addition, the current definitions of assessable This is a further example of how, by integrating and self assessable development under processes into the Integrated Planning Act, the transitional schemes may not be sufficiently Government is reducing the burden of red broad to include development newly made tape—in this case on our feedlot industry. assessable or self-assessable, or changed from one category to the other, since the I have previously stated my commitment to commencement of the Integrated Planning Act. closely monitor the operation of the Integrated The proposed amendments address this matter Planning Act, and quickly address operating and the commencement of the amendment, difficulties to avoid their developing into major because of its beneficial effect for the majority problems. Accordingly, I have taken the of people, is also made retrospective to 30 opportunity in this Bill to address a small March 1998. number of issues that have arisen since the previous amending Bill. For the most part the Further amendments to the definitions section amendments clarify the intent of provisions or of the Act make clear that: fill in identified gaps. I shall address the ¥ as an "assessing authority" a local proposed amendments individually. Government may issue a "stop work" Firstly all uses of premises lawfully established notice for defective work approved by a before the Integrated Planning Act came into private certifier, and that effect are to be protected. The original ¥ "premises" includes all structures. provision on this matter in the Integrated Planning Act was framed in terms of uses This is to make it clear councils do have the lawfully established under the previous Local ability to issue stop work notices if they believe Government (Planning and Environment) Act. A a structure is being erected unlawfully. 19 Nov 1998 Grievances 3469

The definition of 'benchmark development Mourilyan Harbour is strategically located sequence" is also amended to bring it into line to service the coastal region and the with operational terminology and experience. Palmerston Highway to the tablelands would In keeping with my undertaking to local be an ideal route for heavy industry road Government that there would be a period transport usage. That would reduce the between the enactment and commencement of pressure on the Kuranda Range access to the further consequential amendments, the tablelands and beyond. Now that there is a amendments to the Transport Infrastructure Act major player interested in providing an industry and related amendments to the Integrated Planning Act will not be proclaimed for at least that would provide jobs and opportunity, it is three months. This will allow time for the incumbent on the State Government to necessary regulations to be prepared, and for support the initiative to ensure the harbour at local Governments to put in place, operational Mourilyan reaches its potential. Although this procedures to deal with the amendments. may be an application for a particular company As I have already mentioned, two provisions in to create an industry, based on the availability the proposed Bill, considered to be beneficial, of access to Mourilyan Harbour, it would are commenced retrospectively at 30 March provide a facility for other heavy industries to 1998. Two provisions of an urgent nature are come to the area. commenced from the date of introduction of this Bill to the Parliament. The Stock Act amendments and remaining Integrated Planning Nestle Write Around Australia Creative Act amendments will commence on assent. Writing Awards Mr Speaker, this Bill meets a long term Mr WILSON (Ferny Grove—ALP) commitment to the development industry of (8.29 p.m.): On Wednesday, 4 November, at Queensland and it continues the implementation of the major reforms envisaged under the the State Library of Queensland, the Integrated Planning Act. Honourable Matt Foley, Attorney-General and Minister for Justice and Minister for The Arts, I commend the Bill to the House. presented the Nestle Write Around Australia Debate, on motion of Mr Hobbs, creative writing awards to 20 young writers adjourned. from across Queensland. The State winner for Year 6 was Daniel Patterson from Mackay GRIEVANCES Adventist Christian School for "Just One More Time" and for Year 7, Naomi Fisher, from St Mourilyan Harbour Paul's School, Gracemere, for "Through a Mr ROWELL (Hinchinbrook—NPA) Dragonfly's Eye". It gave me great pleasure to (8.27 p.m.): Mourilyan Harbour was identified share this important event with one of the in the Far North Queensland 2010 Strategic finalists, Maolyse Craig, and her parents. Development Plan as an opportunity to Maolyse attends the excellent Mitchelton State expand vital trade in the north of the State. In School in my electorate. Her story was, "The the past, the port has been used for the Real Hero". movement of sugar products, which involved Nestle Write Around Australia is a public vessels leaving the harbour with a full cargo. At library-based creative writing program which present, the harbour is not suited to fully laden targets young people in Year 6 and Year 7. vessels bringing cargo into the harbour. Twenty-four thousand entries were received, It has been estimated that, to cope with with 3,650 entries from Queensland. A an application now being processed by the highlight of the program is the creative writing Ports Corporation, an amount of $4.2m would workshops conducted in public libraries by be required to bring in vessels of 40,000 dead Australian children's writers. The writers spend weight tonnage to Mourilyan. The applicant a week at the public libraries sharing their wants to bring shipments of fertiliser into experience of the creative writing process with Mourilyan, which could have a positive impact classes from local schools. Prizes are valued at on the cost of production and availability to the $200,000, including computers, printers and sugar and horticultural industries in this section software for the two national winners and of Queensland. The redemption of debt on collections of Australian children's books borrowings required by the Ports Corporation valued at $500 for zone winners and their makes the proposal unattractive to the school libraries. All of the winning stories are applicant. It would not be an unreasonable published in a special Nestle Write Around request that the Government consider such a Australia story collection, which is distributed to proposal as a community service obligation for all primary schools and public libraries in the people and industry in north Queensland. Australia. 3470 Grievances 19 Nov 1998

I commend Nestle Australia for their The Labor Government has already continued support for the concept and I attempted to gut the Treasury Department. commend the authors involved and all the The member for Capalaba has already taken young Queenslanders and their parents for the very efficient unit covering commercial their participation. I especially commend the projects and shifted it into his own department. Queensland State Library for its active and That unit worked as an integrated part of the innovative work in promoting the integral role whole Department of Treasury. It was very of public libraries in building informed and professional and competent and was an aid creative local communities in this State. not only to industry and business but also worked with the rest of Treasury and had to provide total expertise to all the departments. Multiculturalism Other attempts at devaluing Treasury's Mr REYNOLDS (Townsville—ALP) powers and abilities have been put into (8.31 p.m.): This morning, I wondered why operation by this Government. Because of the there were six One Nation members present very responsibility that is its charter, the late last night. Treasury Department must look to efficient Mr Borbidge: This morning or this management and control of the evening. Government's—that is the people's—resources Mr REYNOLDS: I said that I wondered and assets. Because it has an overriding view why there were six One Nation members of the financial responsibility of all present last night for the outrageous attack by departments, it would be fair to say that it is the member for Lockyer on our multicultural not the most loved. However, it fulfils its role policy. Each of the One Nation members, with impartiality and expertise. It is a fact that including their leader, the member for because of the excellent work done by Caboolture, salivated as they admired this ugly Treasury officers, many are offered lucrative and divisive attack on ethnic groups who are jobs in the private sector by companies that proud of their history and heritage. After this have been dealing with the Government and scurrilous attack, each of the six One Nation have realised these officers' abilities. members left the Chamber gleefully agreeing The Labor Government may think that with the remarks of the member for Lockyer. weakening the Treasury Department will To exemplify the gross hypocrisy shown achieve its political ends. However, it fails to last night by the Leader of One Nation in this realise that this department and its officers are Parliament, on Monday night he attended a its greatest strength. In my time as Treasurer, I function where 11 distinguished was well served and advised by this Queenslanders received multiculturalism department, and I thank it for that. However, awards. Then last night he salivated and Treasury officers also advise and work with all patted the member for Lockyer on the back, departments and impartially advise the congratulating him on his racist attacks on Government of the day, as all good career multiculturalism. That further exemplifies the public servants do. principles and practices of the One Nation When in Government I moved to allow leader who, on the one hand, has the senior, able Treasury officers to participate in appearance of consideration and equity while an exchange program with their counterparts on the other hand he indulges in the practice in the UK. This is commonly done in business of marginalising and isolating people because and industry and it enables senior and of their ethnicity or the colour of their skin. The promising employees to gain valuable hypocrisy of the One Nation Party is experience and expertise. The Government highlighted when it talks about multiculturalism and the people of Queensland as a whole in this Chamber. benefited. Instead of applauding this action, this current Government, then in Opposition, accused me of pandering to fat cats and did Treasury Department not support this project. Mrs SHELDON (Caloundra—LP) Time expired. (8.33 p.m.): It is with considerable concern that I have learned that this Labor Government intends to interfere with the operation of one of Callide B Power Station the best departments in the Public Service, the Mr SEENEY (Callide—NPA) (8.35 p.m.): Department of the Treasury. Under the guise Tonight, I want to make the House aware of of the term "restructure", positions will be the incredible maintenance job that is currently spilled and advertised. being undertaken at the Callide B Power 19 Nov 1998 Grievances 3471

Station at Biloela. One of the 320 megawatt technical director, Mr John Horrocks, of generating units has been taken out of service Rochedale South with the air test frequency for planned routine maintenance. Last week, I band as 107.3 megahertz. The humble was privileged to inspect the maintenance beginnings of the station commenced at 7 operation in full swing. Over a 30-day a.m. on 25 October 1985, with the Graham shutdown period, every part of that massive Roberts Show—the first show to unit is being tested and refurbished. In the air—presented by Graham Roberts, a veteran seven-storey coal-fired boiler, the many miles radio personality of Brisbane. of high-pressure steam pipe are being The station purchased a caravan from examined and X-rayed and replaced at many 4KQ, which became its first studio and which points. As well, modifications are being done, was located at Karawatha Street, Springwood, at the initiative of the local operators, to boost and then later a demountable. In those early the unit's already impressive competitive days, the programs that went to air were Folk efficiency. and Country Music, What's On In Sport, Rock I commend and salute the job that is Around Logan, and Music From Around the being done by everybody at Callide B. I salute World. the very professional management team and In the station's first seven years, the the maintenance supervisors who efforts to generate funds for the station were demonstrated to me an incredibly detailed enormous, with fundraising such as Women knowledge of and concern for that massive on the Move trade displays, the first Oz-Music boiler and generating unit and who have on Australia Day, country music benefits, car planned and managed this maintenance washes, chocolate sales and Martin Lass, the operation to the minute. I salute particularly famous classical violinist, who helped to raise the fitters, the welders and the technicians who funds with a special charity benefit. are working three shifts a day inside the boiler itself. The work that they are doing is incredible The second test broadcast saw the to witness as they labour in very difficult frequency change to 101.1 megahertz. That conditions under continual time pressure to occurred between 2 October and 5 October refurbish the unit in the shortest possible time. 1986 and, during the Logan Show, it ran four I spent three hours inside that boiler with those days a week, 6 a.m. to 12 noon, Friday to men, talking to them and watching them carry Monday. On 21 September 1988, the licence out their difficult work in shocking conditions. I was granted for radio 101FM megahertz and was awed at the skill levels and the in November 1998, the official bona fides were overwhelming sense of commitment that they completed and Radio Logan Incorporated, exhibited to their tasks, and I salute them all. 101FM megahertz, was working diligently towards being granted air rights for 24 hours a I have heard power station maintenance day, seven days a week. talked about in this place as though it is something that is carried out with an oilcan Mr John Horrocks, the technical director, and a grease gun. The efforts of those people, had a professional radio and TV background currently working at Callide B as I speak, have and brought the complete stereo effect up to been belittled and criticised as part of a the standards we enjoy today. On 13 political game being played by the "Minister for November 1993 Logan Radio 101FM Apologising in Advance". It is totally unjust to moved—— blame the committed, professional and highly Time expired. skilled people who operate and maintain our power stations such as Callide B for the power shortages that are the result of political Recreational Fishing Licences decisions and ministerial failures. Mr KNUTH (Burdekin—ONP) (8.39 p.m.): I Time expired. inform the House that local recreational fishermen in the Burdekin have expressed their concern over the possible introduction of Logan Radio 101FM fishing licences by the Queensland Fish Mr MUSGROVE (Springwood—ALP) Management Authority. Those licences have (8.37 p.m.): I rise to pay tribute to the been a discussion point between the QFMA, management committee, past and present, of Sunfish and other sporting and recreational 101FM, whose 10th birthday celebration I was fishing bodies for many years. The licences pleased to attend last weekend. Thirteen years have been rejected time and time again, only ago, between 25 October to 28 October, to be relentlessly pursued by the QFMA. 101FM went to air with the first test broadcast The grounds on which recreational being conducted from the home of its fishermen reject the introduction of licences 3472 Grievances 19 Nov 1998 are that they already pay a huge pleasure tax common for residents to tell me that they have imposed by the Federal Government, which lived in the same house for the past 50 years. collects $750m in sales tax from anglers For this reason, the provision of services for nationally, and that recreational fishermen in the elderly and older people with disabilities is Queensland pay the highest boat registration crucial in my area. fees in Australia but see very little to justify that Amelia House was established in 1987 as expenditure. In addition, it would cost more to a response to calls from the Federal police the licences than it is worth. Government to examine the relatively I draw the Minister's attention to the fact neglected area of respite provision for the frail that these licences are strongly opposed by aged, the younger disabled and their carers. Sunfish. How long will it take for the QFMA to Funding for the services that Amelia House take "no" for an answer? The licence system is offers is provided by the Home and too full of complications to consider. For Community Care program, a joint Federal and example, does one compare a person who State undertaking. The Home and Community fishes once a year with someone who fishes Care Program is designed to address the three times a week, or with a tourist from needs of people living in the community who, overseas or interstate, or even with a visitor without basic maintenance and support, would from the outback? The only area in which be confronted with the undesirable prospect of licences can work is through the stocking of premature or inappropriate admission to impoundments that are used on a regular long-term residential care. Initially, HACC basis, such as the Victorian freshwater trout funding was approved for a five-day respite industry. care program—— Licensing is becoming an ever-increasing Time expired. burden in our society. The stage is being set so that Queenslanders will soon need to tow a trolley behind them to hold their accumulation Sunshine Coast Community Policing of licences. It is starting to appear that if one Program enjoys outdoor sports, one will suffer Mr LAMING (Mooloolah—LP) (8.43 p.m.): financially. One Nation strongly rejects the Early last month, I wrote to the Minister for introduction of recreational fishing licences. Police and Corrective Services on behalf of the Time expired. Sunshine Coast community. The substance of my letter was to express directly to him the concerns passed on to me regarding the Amelia House proposed withdrawal of funding from Mr FENLON (Greenslopes—ALP) community policing partnerships in (8.41 p.m.): In the lead-up to the Federal Queensland. These partnerships were set up election, my electorate office was inundated by the previous Minister, the Honourable with calls from elderly constituents who were Russell Cooper, in an endeavour to encourage literally panic stricken about their future. I am a whole-of-Government, all levels of not resorting to hyperbole when I say that. Government and community response to law Those people were generally alarmed. As and order issues throughout the State. people on fixed incomes, many of them asked It is possible that some CPPs have not what kind of future they would face with the performed as intended, but that is not case on introduction of a GST and with the massive the Sunshine Coast. It has its share of law and increase in nursing home fees—just to name order problems, and during the period that I two measures that would make the lives of the have been the member for Mooloolah I have elderly in Australia more difficult and less costly made numerous deputations and sent a lot of to a surplus-at-any-cost Federal Government. correspondence to various Ministers on that In the light of this, I wish to draw attention to issue. Our CPP has been successful and it has the admirable and invaluable work being addressed a number of issues. undertaken in my electorate at Amelia House, In conjunction with the Youth and Coorparoo. That centre services the need for Community Combined Action group and the the provision of respite care for the frail aged, university, the CPP has established a the younger disabled and their carers. Sunshine Coast youth crime forum and a My electorate has a very high proportion prevention network. The CPP has conducted a of elderly constituents and it seems that this crime prevention week home security expo. It general trend will continue. Unlike so many has also encouraged community participation other areas in Brisbane, the population in in the supervision of young people completing Greenslopes is relatively stable. Indeed, it is community service orders. Those are just 19 Nov 1998 Grievances 3473 examples and I table a more comprehensive does not have a car, it is quite a long walk to list of the work of the Sunshine Coast CPP. the closest shop. Our community policing partnership has the While there are swings close to the estate strong support of the three Sunshine Coast that are appropriate for smaller children, the councils, which have provided bridging finance young people are badly left out. The Liberal to keep the CPP going temporarily. councillor gained a half-court basketball court There is an emerging interest in for the young people. However, he arranged surveillance cameras to assist in our ongoing for it to be built a long distance from houses. law and order challenge on the coast—an Indeed, it is virtually in the bush. This area has initiative to which I give my support. The CPP been badly maintained and it would take a is the appropriate body to coordinate this "four-wheel drive pushy" to get there. Above project. Although, following my all, I believe that, because of its seclusion, representations, I have been unofficially parents would be extremely reluctant to allow advised of a six-month extension, I request the their children to go there. I have met with the Minister to reconsider this funding decision. I young people to talk about the problems in ask him to provide ongoing funding for at least this regard and they want a place to ride their 12 months so that the CPP can show its value bikes and skateboards without having to and commitment in this new endeavour, which hassle anyone. At present, the only suitable cannot be concluded in a six-month period. place is the road. I do not believe that that is Time expired. an unreasonable request. I will be working with all levels of Government to try to rectify these problems, Developing Housing Estates but I believe that we should all ensure that if Mr REEVES (Mansfield—ALP) developers set up housing estates—— (8.45 p.m.): I wish to speak about how Time expired. developers establish housing estates with no concerns other than to quickly sell the blocks in any way that they can. I use the example of Paraplegic Benefit Fund the Gainsborough Park Estate in the suburb of Mrs LIZ CUNNINGHAM (Gladstone—IND) Mackenzie in my electorate. The developer of (8.47 p.m.): This week is Spinal Awareness that estate promised the residents that the Week. In our electorates, there are many estate would be part of the Brisbane City people who have been affected by vehicle Council transport network. However, accidents, sporting accidents and so on. I agreement by the Brisbane City Council was commend to the House a group called the never given to the developer, who has clearly Paraplegic Benefit Fund. Dr Vernon Hill, the misled the people of the estate. director of the Princess Alexandra Spinal While those residents have recently had Injuries Unit, is also a director of that fund. He the Mount Gravatt Bus Company take over the has said— contract for the estate, the infrequency of the "Traumatic spinal injury can occur to service, which presently runs only to Garden any of us at any time. It is generally City, is a major drawback to increased possible within the first few week or so to patronage of the service. There is no service gauge whether there is a chance of on late night shopping nights or weekends, significant recovery. The financial which means that its usefulness is very problems faced by those left permanently questionable. I am happy to say that the paralysed can be devastating. Transport Department is examining options A prompt payout by PBF Australia is with the company to extend the service to the a Godsend! It helps cushion the transition city. It is hoped that this trial will commence in from hospital back into the community. February 1999. The money provided by the Health While transport is one problem in this and welfare system for equipment and estate, it appears to be only the tip of the housing alterations is never enough. PBF iceberg. Although the estate is impressive assists our funding." when one first buys into it, with traffic calming and appropriate landscaping, problems occur I commend Dr Vernon Hill, who is one of the with the upkeep of the landscaping. However, nicest fellows I have met. He has a real the major problem I see is that the residents, concern for the people under his care. and particularly the young people, are isolated. Money that is paid by the fund is in There is not even a shop in the estate, which addition to any other compensation available has over 800 residents and is growing. If one and can be used in any way that a recipient 3474 Grievances 19 Nov 1998 chooses. Even if a subscriber or a family he has no right to impose his narrow-minded member of a subscriber never suffers a spinal prejudices on me, my family and the people I injury, their membership will help PBF Australia represent. The fact that we regularly eat with to assist those who have. It is a non-profit chopsticks at home or visit a Buddhist temple organisation and it reinvests a large proportion or practise languages other than English or of its membership fees back into the embrace or experience other non-Anglo-Saxon community. traditions is no business of One Nation or PBF gains its funds predominantly from anyone else. membership fees. There are a number of Dr PRENZLER: I rise to a point of order. I options available through subscription to find the comments that the member made single, double or family memberships. about my being narrow-minded very offensive. Importantly, the fund is looking for inroads into I ask the honourable member to withdraw. the larger State and Federal Government Mr SPEAKER: Order! There is no point of departments for the old ambulance-type order. subscription, that is, the payment of 50c or $1 a week. People do not miss such sums from Mr ROBERTSON: To suggest that my their pay, but that money helps greatly those lifestyle is somehow un-Australian is offensive. people in our community who, unfortunately, The member suggests that multiculturalism meet with accidents for which they are never glorifies other foreign cultures. It does not. It prepared—none of us ever are. respects other cultures and the rights of all Australians to choose how they live within the I commend the Paraplegic Benefit Fund confines of the law. In more charitable times I to the House. The people who run the fund would feel sorry for the member for Lockyer. are well qualified. They are compassionate However, I will not give him the perverse and they have an interest in providing services pleasure of calling him a racist; he is simply to all people who are affected by spinal just plain ignorant. injuries. The board is made up of the director of each State spinal unit—— Time expired. Hospital Waiting Lists Miss SIMPSON (Maroochydore—NPA) (8.51 p.m.): The Beattie Labor Government Member for Lockyer; Multiculturalism inherited the best public hospital system in Mr ROBERTSON (Sunnybank—ALP) Australia and, in just five months, Health (8.49 p.m.): Last night we heard one of the Minister Edmond has undone all of the most ignorant speeches in this Parliament for coalition's good work. Waiting lists in many years. The attack by the One Nation Queensland public hospitals have already member for Lockyer was remarkable only for blown out to 36,728 people in just three its offensive undertones and myopic content. months under Labor. Most concerning is the Not only has this new commissar for Australian increase in patients waiting for urgent elective culture offended the thousands of new surgery. The waiting list for urgent elective Australians whom I am so proud to represent; surgery increased by 164 in just three months. he also seeks to impose his values on the way The waiting list for semi-urgent elective surgery I choose to live my life as a citizen of this has also blown out by a massive 712 patients country. over the past three months. The One Nation member has a distorted, Mr Borbidge: Despite record funding if not sick, fixation on multiculturalism, and under the new Medicare deal we negotiated. demands assimilation. He claims that Miss SIMPSON: That is despite record multiculturalism encourages the maintenance funding under the new Medicare Agreement. of cultural attitudes that are alien to our That waiting list is growing at more than society. However, he fails to understand that 200 patients per month under Labor. Claims our culture is constantly evolving. And our by Mrs Edmond about a hidden elective culture, which is mine as much as his, is surgery waiting list have also proved to be a developed by the choices that we all make in fraud and nothing more than an excuse for her how we live our lives. The monocultural nirvana own gross incompetence. The Health Minister that One Nation hankers for has never existed, has been forced to admit in this House that and will never exist, in this country. her so-called hidden waiting list for elective I make no judgment about how the surgery actually includes patients with member for Lockyer and his family live their diabetes, skin rashes and mental illnesses. In lives. If he chooses to barricade himself behind answer to a question on notice, the Health a virtual white picket fence, that is his right. But Minister has confirmed that her so-called 19 Nov 1998 Valedictory 3475 hidden elective surgery waiting list actually hear how much our families suffer. We can covers more than 80 specialties and take practical steps to help our families by subspecialties. Many of the patients are not instituting a system of pairing that will be elective surgery patients at all. That is why the acceptable to both sides of the House and Health Minister has not included any which will allow members to be with their information regarding outpatient waiting lists in families on significant occasions. her recent quarterly waiting list report. Mrs Edmond has been caught out. SPECIAL ADJOURNMENT The massive increase in waiting lists under the Beattie Labor Government goes Hon. T. M. MACKENROTH (Chatsworth— against the dramatic reductions in waiting lists ALP) (Leader of the House) (8.55 p.m.): I which occurred under the coalition move— Government. In two years the coalition took "That the House, at its rising, do Queensland from having the worst waiting lists adjourn to a date and at a time to be in Australia under Labor to the best. The fixed by Mr Speaker in consultation with Queensland coalition set targets to reduce the Government of the State." Category 1 and Category 2 waiting lists in our public hospitals and we reached those targets. VALEDICTORY Hon. P. D. BEATTIE (Brisbane Central— Member for Tablelands; Pairs Protocol ALP) (Premier) (8.55 p.m.): It is the custom of Mr SULLIVAN (Chermside—ALP) the Queensland Parliament to offer a (8.53 p.m.): I was considering two topics Valedictory address at the adjournment of the tonight. One was the contrast between what House on the last sitting day of the year. It is a the member for Tablelands said before being custom that I take up wholeheartedly. We sworn into Parliament and his actions in the have made it to the end of the year. Well done House over the past four months. However, to all of us. that comparison can wait, and the House will First, on behalf of my Government, I have some remarkable incidents to which we extend my very best wishes to all members can refer when assessing the actions of the and their families for a safe, healthy and member for Tablelands. happy Christmas and an equally healthy and The second topic that I wish to speak to rewarding new year. For the Government, will be referred to in the Valedictory speeches 1998 has certainly been a rewarding year—we that will follow this debate. During that debate started off in Opposition as the alternative we always hear how our families sacrifice so Government and won Government in mid much as a result of our being members of this year. House. However, we can give our families a This afternoon, as Parliament rises for the Christmas present that will last the whole year, Christmas recess over summer, it is my if we so choose. I speak about the granting of pleasure to offer a number of thankyous. I do pairs to allow members to attend family this gladly, because it gives me the chance to functions. mention the many people who work so I speak from the position of having been tirelessly to make Parliament run smoothly. both in Government and in Opposition. I And there are a lot of them. I would like to say acknowledge that barriers to these pairings that these are not mere duty thankyous; they have been erected by both sides of the are offered from the heart. House, and I acknowledge that cooperation Firstly, let me offer my thanks to you, Mr has been extended by both sides of the Speaker, for the wit and wisdom, the patience House. I call on both sides of the House to and perception, the balance and brevity you consider a protocol which will allow country, have brought to the job. Congratulations. I am regional and city members to join their sure that you have won the respect of both partners, children and parents for significant sides of the Parliament. If you have felt the family events. need to monster the odd member from time to I believe that we can create a protocol time, I am sure that we understand why. such that the member who is paired would not I thank also the Deputy Speaker and have an advantage in a political sense, and Chairman of Committees, the Temporary that would allow members to be with their Chairpersons and the parliamentary families. We constantly hear claims that family committees for all their work in 1998. As we all life is the most important factor in our society. know, the parliamentary committees play a Every year during the Valedictory speeches we very useful function in this Parliament. They 3476 Valedictory 19 Nov 1998 have worked incredibly hard, and I colleagues. I take this opportunity, too, to congratulate them on that. thank all the members of my caucus, who I thank the Whips on all sides for managed the transition from Opposition to managing to maintain discipline in the House Government with a spirit of determination and and for making certain that the House runs in a work ethic which does us proud. an orderly way. I thank Terry Sullivan and Pat I have thanked all of my Ministers already, Purcell, for the Government; the Opposition but it would be remiss of me not to thank all of Whips, Bill Baumann and John Hegarty; and the shadow Ministers as well for their One Nation's Whips, Jeff Knuth and Jack Paff, wholehearted assistance in helping the for their contributions. I thank each and every Government make the nightly news in such one of my Ministers for the efforts they have favourable light on so many occasions in put in over the year, particularly in the past five 1998. I look forward to receiving the same months since we came to Government. I thank cooperation in 1999. them for their loyalty and support and the I want to thank the Opposition Leader, team effort that they have put in. They hit the Rob Borbidge and his team. We have ground running in June, and that commitment cooperated on a number of matters. As we all has not flagged since. know, without an Opposition, this democratic I know that I have made many demands institution does not function very well. A lot of and set high standards for them all. I am very people do not understand that, while we have grateful for all their efforts in making our our arguments on many things, we actually Government successful from day one. I pay agree on a lot of things. I thank Rob for his tribute also to their families, because we all cooperation throughout the year. know that in the game of politics families are On a more serious note, I salute all of the the ones who often miss out because of the members on the other side of the House. They busy lives that we all lead, particularly managed the transition to Opposition with Ministers. dignity—if reluctance. I should again say to In particular, I thank the Deputy Premier, Rob that one of the things about which we can Jim Elder, for his strong support and unfailing all be proud is that the transition from the Goss assistance, particularly over the past five Government to the Borbidge Government was months of Government but also during the two handled with dignity, and the transition from years and four months of Opposition. His the Borbidge Government to the Beattie performance since the change of Government Government was also handled with dignity. On shows that he has indeed been—he won't a personal level, I thought that he handled mind my saying this—a runt with grunt, and I that with grace and goodwill and in a very congratulate him on that. friendly way. While we have had some heated Mr Sullivan: You almost got it right. exchanges over the time that we have been in our respective positions—— Mr BEATTIE: Russell Cooper started it; I have finished it. I have given it a bit of style. Mr Borbidge: I am sure you will do the There is nothing wrong with being a runt with same. grunt. Mr BEATTIE: The Leader of the I also thank my colleague the Leader of Opposition will not live that long. Government Business and Minister for On a serious note, I do want to thank him Communication and Information, Terry for that friendliness. I am sure that, in another Mackenroth, who has provided absolutely 20 years when I tire of this job, I will behave in invaluable assistance during the past months. the same way. On both sides of the House we His guidance from the Government benches in recognise that the level of communication terms of tactics has been important and his between Opposition and Government is role has been a key one. His help has been all necessary to make this place work, and I think the more appreciated because, as we know, in that does go on to the level that is needed. I recent times he has had a very minor health am sure that the Leader of the Opposition will problem. I am sure I speak on behalf of all agree that my Ministers offer the same level of members when I say that we wish you well communication to Opposition spokespeople. over the next few months of treatment, and we I think that it is also important that we know that you are going to be back in fighting acknowledge the role of a number of people fit form in early January. We wish you well. who make this place work. They are not just I also single out David Hamill for his the Government members and the Opposition splendid first Budget, and I acknowledge the workers, but also the two Independents and work of the rest of my parliamentary the One Nation Party. At this stage I would like 19 Nov 1998 Valedictory 3477 to thank the Independent member for Nicklin who has resigned from the seat of Mulgrave. I for honouring his commitment to support my gave him the best wishes of all members of Government in matters of Supply and this House and I am sure that we all wish him confidence in what remains a finely balanced well and a speedy recovery. House. I commend him for fiercely protecting No Parliament could function as well as his independence, which he has successfully this one does without the goodwill and hard demonstrated to his constituents. work of the supporting staff. I refer to the Clerk Notwithstanding some criticism that the of the Parliament, Robert Doyle, and all of his member for Nicklin has had from time to time, staff. I thank them for all the bipartisan and he has had the courage and fortitude to non-political assistance that they offer both accept that and has not gone out and sides of the House equally. I certainly believe whinged or complained about it. I think that that they have earned a breather over the shows him to be a very decent Australian, and coming months. As honourable members I wish him well. I would also like to thank the know, it is often the advice of the Clerk that other Independent in this House, the assists the Speaker in making rulings. It is honourable member for Gladstone. Again and never easy in that role, but he has always again Mrs Cunningham has proved herself to carried it out in an impartial way, and I thank be a true Independent who has been him for that. prepared to communicate with my I would also like to thank the Government, and we thank her for that. At the Parliamentary Counsel and staff. I want to end of the day, she has also made up her make a particular reference to Alan Watson mind about how she will vote. and his very hardworking Hansard staff, who It is important on an occasion such as this really do a superb job often under trying to say that, being an Independent in this circumstances. Anyone who can make English House is very difficult, indeed. It is much more out of some of the more boisterous exchanges difficult to be an Independent than it is to be a and interjections on this floor deserves a member of the Government or the Opposition. Victoria Cross, never mind a mere thankyou. I This House has not had a long tradition of have often heard speeches made in this Independents. In many ways, it has been a House that have made absolutely no sense new experience for Parliament and, as I often until I have read them in Hansard. say, it has certainly been a character building experience for both the member for Gladstone I say a big thanks to Nick Bannenberg and the member for Nicklin, as it has been for and all the Library staff for their swift help and their invaluable publications and resource the Government. I personally want to say that I material. The Library plays a very important have admired the way that they have role, as does Corporate Services and Property behaved, and I wish them well for next year as Services under their very able Executive well. Director, Robert Fick, not to mention the At this stage I would also like to mention Members Support Services. the One Nation Leader, Bill Feldman, and his colleagues. We are getting there. As he Special mention needs to be made here knows, I have strong views about the role of of the Chief Parliamentary Attendant, Kevin One Nation and its policies. However, I have to Jones, and all his very able staff. I doubt say that, when it comes to this Parliament, as I whether there would be another Parliament in have promised, we have treated One Nation Australia with friendlier or more efficient staff. I members with courtesy and respect. His team must commend them all on their unfailing has obviously had to find its feet. They have cheerfulness, no matter how hectic the work. been at the disadvantage that, unlike the In many ways they are the show face—if I can established political parties, they did not have put it in those terms—of this Parliament, and anyone there to show them the ropes and they do us all proud. help them throughout the processes. That is On behalf of the Government, let me also something that they have not had the pay tribute to the Office of Education and advantage of. Under those circumstances, it Protocol. That office looks after all of the has been incredibly difficult, but I think that visitors, including schoolchildren, and it works they have started to weather that storm. While very hard, as do the staff of Human Resource I disagree about policies, I think that they have Management, Finance and Information demonstrated that they are committed to the Technology Services. That is an area that is institution of Parliament. We look forward to under great and increasing pressure, and I continuing our sparring next year. As I said to think that they do a remarkably good job. All them earlier on tonight, I visited Charlie these areas are vital to the smooth running of Rappolt on Saturday—one of their members the Parliament, but too rarely do we give them 3478 Valedictory 19 Nov 1998 due credit. It is on occasions such as this that than others, and some have got closer to the both sides of the House must do so. mark than others. At this stage I would like to say how much I think it is important that I pay tribute we all appreciate the switchboard operators, tonight to Peter Morley, who has been a those unsung heroes who have to deal with political reporter for the Courier-Mail for 20 the thousands of calls which pass in and out of years. Today is the last day that Peter is our offices over the year. Thanks, too, to the reporting on the activities of this House for the Catering Division staff. Those of us who Courier-Mail. I may not have always agreed endure late night sittings know it sometimes with Peter's assessment of political events, but takes a lot of fuelling the inner person to get he has certainly savaged both sides on a through. Their service is great and so is the regular basis. He has been a loyal servant to food. They do a great job. the Courier-Mail and, on behalf of all members, I wish him well for the future. I should not let the hard work of Property Thanks, too, to all electorate staff. I know Services, which is involved in purchasing, that I can say this on behalf of both sides of stores, cleaning, maintenance and gardening, pass without saying a big thankyou. If I may, I the Parliament. These are the people who would like to single out the gardeners for a keep our offices running smoothly, who answer special mention in dispatches. It never ceases the hundreds of telephone calls and who to amaze me how beautifully the gardens are assist our constituents. Without them, we kept, especially the Speaker's Green. Let me would be lost. I pay a particular tribute here to pay a special tribute to the man who has been my own electorate secretary, Myra Freeman, responsible for the Speaker's Green, those who, as honourable members would magnificent roses and all the other features understand, because of my responsibilities around the buildings. John Pullman, the head largely carries the electoral office work alone. gardener, who has tended the gardens of She has done a superb job and I thank her for Parliament House for 26 years—more than a that, as I thank all electorate office staff on quarter of a century—is retiring at the end of both sides of the House. next week. I want to thank John on behalf of I also say a huge thanks to my own staff all of us for the love and care that he has put in the Premier's office. They have had a big into the grounds. We wish him a long and year—in Opposition first and then in happy retirement, and we hope that he will visit Government. They have given me unswerving us from time to time. loyalty. They have given me a bit of advice from time to time, some of which I have taken. I know that I am not the only one to They have also given me their support during appreciate the tranquillity and careful order of the very long hours which this role requires. As the Green after the often unruly, hurly-burly of the Leader of the Opposition would know, question time in the House. The two possums personal staff have an enormous burden who are nesting outside the Strangers Dining placed on them. They suffer enormous stress. Room appreciate it, too, and they send their Without personal staff we would not be able to best wishes to you, Mr Speaker, for allowing carry out—— them to stay. Given the wildlife I have to endure in this place, it is a great comfort to Mr Mickel: Hear, hear! know that I am not the only mild and cuddly Mr BEATTIE: Some of the personal staff creature seeking refuge in the greenery. That go on to bigger and better things. Some of was a bit of humour. them perhaps should not have! We will be watching the member over the next few years. I am coming to something very serious I do thank my personal staff, because they here. I want to also thank the security, which have performed incredibly well. I also thank the has been upgraded in recent times. I think the various departmental staff. security staff do an excellent job here, and I thank them as well. It is a very difficult job. A very special tribute must also be paid to the families of all honourable members of this The members of the parliamentary press House. Many people in the community, while gallery play an important role here. They must they understand how difficult politics can be, take the inevitable conflicting arguments from do not understand the 24-hour-a-day, seven- both sides of the House and attempt to deal day-a-week demands which are made on with them in an impartial fashion. I have to say politicians and, more importantly, on their that they do not always achieve that end. I families. All too often heavy strains are placed believe that on most occasions they manage on families—particularly on those with young that balancing act very well—at least, I think I children. Many of us in this House do have believe that. Some have had more practice young families. I think it is important that we 19 Nov 1998 Valedictory 3479 pay tribute to our families tonight. I know that democracy—the great engine of executive the Leader of the Opposition is in a similar power in this State—and, surprisingly to people position to me, having a young family. On outside, very often a place of friendship and these occasions we need to acknowledge the fellowship that transcends party politics. sacrifices that they make. I wish to thank my Last year at this time—well, not quite at wife, Heather, for her understanding and this time; the coalition Government was patience. I thank my three children for energised and open enough to make accepting so gracefully that I am simply not Parliament work until a little closer to able to be with them as much as I would like. I Christmas—the honourable member for thank the dog for stopping biting me when I Brisbane Central made the comment that "it get home. will be a different Valedictory next year". He I wish all honourable members, all was right. In the spirit of this occasion I will parliamentary staff, all personal staff and forbear to remark on this significant families the very best for the coming holiday improvement to his record, other than to note season. I trust I have left no-one out. If I have, that there is a first time for everything. I apologise. I have not intended to do that. The 49th Parliament is a very different 1998 will go down in Queensland political place from the 48th, a fact that is notable in history as an interesting year. We have seen itself but which also warrants notice in this the emergence of a new political party with address. This parliamentary year spans two One Nation. We have seen a change of Parliaments and two minority Governments. It Government. Notwithstanding all those things, also marks the first time that a fracturing of the while we have had our differences we have not party system has created in this place a had one drop of blood shed in this State. We crossbench party in significant numbers. should remember what a great democracy we At the June election several members live in. If we look at what has happened in retired—five from the Labor side and two from countries such as Yugoslavia and many other National Party ranks. I record my best wishes countries of the world, we see that changes of to Mark Stoneman and Di McCauley and to Government do not occur in the organised, Wayne Goss, Keith De Lacy, Ken McElligott, sensible, constructive way that they do in this Glen Milliner and Geoff Smith. Mark Stoneman country. We do not see the Premier and the served the coalition Government as the Leader of the Opposition having a friendly chat Premier's representative in north Queensland. about how they are going to go and see the He was a key element in our determination to Governor and make the change of office. We be a truly representative Government for the do not find that in many countries of the world. tropical north as well as the sub-tropical south. I think one of the things we can all agree Queensland is a great State and none of on, regardless of our political differences, is us in this place would ever want to forget that. that the strength of this democracy is the It is pleasing to see that the new Government future of a great country. We must all work appears at this stage also seized by the hard to cherish it. Over the Christmas holidays geographic extent of Queensland and that it, I am sure that we will gain new strength and too, recognises the principle of vital difference new vigour to come back and to ensure that in between north and south. 1999 this remains a strong and vibrant Di McCauley was Minister for Local democracy. Government and Planning in my Government, Hon. R. E. BORBIDGE (Surfers a role she played with consummate skill and Paradise—NPA) (Leader of the Opposition) good sense right up to polling day, which was (9.13 p.m.): I join with the Premier in making retirement day for her. I place on record, too, this Valedictory address. I thank the Premier my appreciation for the way she so ably and the members of his Government for the represented me and the then Government at best wishes they have extended to Opposition the final voting meeting on Expo 2002 in Paris and non-Government members during the the week before the election when, for obvious course of the evening. I make these remarks reasons, I was unable to be present. tonight on behalf of my colleague the Leader Queensland's innovative and enterprising of the Liberal Party, who has commitments bid for the world's first-recognised exposition elsewhere that were entered into in the belief was an initiative of the coalition Government. It that Parliament would be sitting next week. was organised in a very tight time frame as an I make these remarks in good humour, opportunity that Queensland should grasp with secure as all of us are in the knowledge that vigour. It was so good that it surprised the the Parliament, as the Premier has said, is the world's expo nations by forcing the first ever finest expression of our robust and healthy tied vote in the history of the Bureau of 3480 Valedictory 19 Nov 1998

International Expositions. The bid is still alive, the other Independent: the pioneering pending a final announcement by the Independent, the independent Independent, Philippines—which narrowly won on the the member for Gladstone. second ballot in Paris in June—on whether in Government members: Oh, come on! fact it can proceed with its own plans. Mr BORBIDGE: I am expressing my The fact that the bid so nearly won only view—and, I think, with justification. 10 years after World Expo 88 in Brisbane is to the credit of everyone involved in the bid Government members interjected. process, the administration of the bid within Mr BORBIDGE: Mr Speaker, I heard the the Public Service and the strong bipartisan Premier in silence, and I would hope that, nature of political support for it here and espousing the new standards of Premier federally. That bipartisan support remains Beattie, I would be extended the same unshakeable. The Premier knows that he can courtesy. There are traditions in respect of this count on exactly the same level of support debate, and I suspect that new members from me as Opposition Leader as I had from opposite should learn them. him as Premier. It was not always easy working with Mrs At the 13 June election we lost some Cunningham in Government—and I believe good and long-serving members from our that is wholly to her credit. But it was always ranks—casualties of the electoral process that rewarding; and it was always a process that, we all face and from which the practice and while challenging, was invariably conducted principle of democracy thoroughly benefit. In with civility and objectivity. I thank her for that the course of shaping a new Parliament for and for her true independence. Queensland, the electors removed five At this point, too, I make special mention Nationals and six Liberals—the National members for Nicklin, Tablelands, Barambah, of my friend and colleague Jeff Seeney, who Lockyer and Mulgrave, and the Liberal took up the National standard from Di members for Barron River, Greenslopes, McCauley in the seat of Callide. And I extend Mount Ommaney, Springwood, Mundingburra a warm welcome to every new member of the and Mansfield. The National Party seat of House. I wish every member the compliments Burdekin also changed hands with the of the season and the thanks of both the retirement of Mark Stoneman. This, along with Opposition and the previous Government for Labor's loss of six seats to One Nation, their contributions to the proceedings of this represented a fundamental change to the way place. I thank in particular the hardworking members of the former Government and the politics has created outcomes in Queensland. present Opposition front bench for their This is not an occasion on which it would be determination and energy in always striving to proper to canvass either the advisability of that do what is best for Queensland. change or its results, as so far discerned, in terms of the people's representation and real I note with particular emphasis the interests. But if nothing else, it has contribution Joan Sheldon made to the concentrated minds on both sides of this coalition, both in Opposition and in House. Government, until she left the leadership in June, and her sterling service as Deputy Tom Gilmore, Naomi Wilson, Trevor Premier, Treasurer, Minister for the Arts and Perrett and Tony FitzGerald, Lyn Warwick, Ted Radke, Bob Harper, Luke Woolmer, Frank Minister for Women's Affairs during the term of Tanti—the kilted Malteser—and Frank Carroll the coalition Government. The coalition did not all made significant contributions to have a particularly easy time in Government. Queensland and to this House and are No minority administration ever will. But the missed. Among these casualties, we especially new challenge of minority Government is one miss the rare talent of former Speaker Neil that has been decided upon by the voters, Turner, whose contribution to the greening of and it is the Government's job—Government in this place—not to mention putting actual form the widest sense—to work within the to the legend of Jurassic Park, which you now boundaries that the electors have set. enjoy, Mr Speaker, and reviving the fine old It is to the great credit of my colleagues in sport of chasing errant news Government up to June this year that we photographers—is memorable indeed. The achieved balance and successful former Speaker's removal from this place by administration in this difficult environment. This the overwhelmingly conservative electors of would not have worked as well as it did—or Nicklin came via a process that saw elected even at all—without the dedicated assistance this Parliament's second Independent. Today, of the professional Public Service and the however, I want to make special mention of heads of that service. I pay particular tribute on 19 Nov 1998 Valedictory 3481 that score to the Director-General of the forward to seeing you back when Parliament Department of the Premier and Cabinet under resumes in fine form and fine voice and fully the coalition, Mr Peter Ellis. And I do so, too, in recovered in that famous and inimitable style the case of Mr Ellis' deputy, Mr John Sosso, a that we all enjoy. I wish you well on behalf of career public servant of consummate skill and all members on this side. learning, whose employment was crudely It is, of course, perfectly true—as the terminated at the change of Government. Premier has already noted—that no Mr McGrady: This is disgusting! Parliament would work at all without the energy Mr BORBIDGE: I will ignore that and expertise of its supporting staff. The Clerk interjection, because there are certain things of the Parliament, Mr Doyle, has as always that I could say that would severely embarrass been unfailing in the support and sound the Government. advice he gives to all members. The Clerk Assistant (Table) and Sergeant-at-Arms, Mr In any Parliament, the life of a Whip can Ian Thompson, the Second Clerk-Assistant, Mr be a torrid one. In a minority situation, both Barry Sanderson, the Parliamentary Officer Government and Opposition Whips have a (Votes), Ms Annette Henery, the parliamentary particularly hard job to do. I pay tribute to the officers in Bills and Papers, Messrs Bob Opposition Whips, Mr Baumann and Mr Bradbury, Brett Charlier and Andrew Timperley, Hegarty, to the Government Whips, Mr Purcell and the Chief Librarian, Mr Nick Bannenberg, and Mr Sullivan, and to the One Nation Whips, and his staff have as always provided excellent Mr Knuth and Mr Paff. They have all played service. their part in assisting with the job of keeping the House running smoothly. Special mention should be made of the Office of Parliamentary Counsel, headed by I also will respond to comments made Peter Drew, whose workload has significantly earlier by the Government Whip. I say to the increased because of the new provisions for Government Whip and to members of the private members' Bills introduced by the Government that I think we have been more previous coalition Government and carried on than reasonable in respect of pairs. In regard by this administration. Their work has always to the Minister for Mines and Energy, I remind him of my willingness to provide a pair so that been exemplary, whatever the challenge. he could go interstate last week in respect of Parliament's increased workload, as I certain undertakings that were given a long noted in my Valedictory last year as Premier, time ago when funeral arrangements were has increased substantially through the organised. I also make the point to the changes we made to the committee Government Whip that last night, when he had system—changes I am glad to see are a big night on with his family, we were supported by Labor in office—and I add my obviously prepared to provide that pair. I say to congratulations to those of the Premier in his all the Whips that they have all played their address to the Hansard staff led by Mr Alan part in assisting with the job of keeping the Watson. My thanks, too, to the officers House running smoothly. In the 48th responsible for the Corporate Services and Parliament, the chief Government Whip's job Members Support Program; everyone on the went to Frank Carroll when Lawrence administrative staff; the Chief Parliamentary Springborg was elevated to the Ministry. Mr Attendant, Mr Kevin Jones, and his staff; and Carroll—at this point no longer with us in the the Security staff under their coordinator, Ms Chamber—is due great credit for the way he Geraldine Broerse. As always, they have handled his job during the sometimes fractious performed their duties with courtesy and sessions leading up to the State election. efficiency. Let it be noted that this is always This is an occasion to be frank and appreciated. sometimes to be blunt. I want to also pay Likewise, I add my appreciation—offered tribute to the Leader of the House and to the both as Premier for half the parliamentary year Leader of Opposition Business in the and as Opposition Leader—to that noted by House—to Mr Mackenroth and to Mr the Premier for the enthusiastic staff in Beanland. Terry, we know that recent times Education, under Graeme Kinnear, and in have not been easy for you, but I also want Protocol under Ted Newton. They are you to know that you carry with you the respect responsible for much of what the public sees of honourable members on this side of the about how Queensland's Parliament works. House. We share with you the understanding, We are not an overly large Parliament in the hopefully, of the process that you have been scheme of things, in those lucky places around going through. We are pleased that you are the globe whose Government is based on making a speedy recovery, and we look parliamentary democracy. But this Parliament 3482 Valedictory 19 Nov 1998 is nonetheless a complex undertaking. We are one of the finest tributes that we could pay a fortunate that it is so well served by dedicated member of the gallery. I wish Peter well for the staff in human relations, finance, the evermore future. We look forward to seeing him from omnipotent information technologists, and time to time and enjoying his wit and his others. Parliament could not function without demeanour. its telephonists and executive assistants and None of us here could, of course, function would not march anywhere—and I think it without the close support of our electorate marches very well—without the Catering office staff. On behalf of Opposition members, Division under Mr Jaakko Ponsi, who joined us I offer my gratitude to them for their efforts this only last year and who has been tempting year, at all hours and in every sort of weather palates widely ever since. My thanks, too, to that this wonderful State is capable of Mr John McDonough and Property Services, producing. The ministerial staff who supported who keep the whole precinct spick and span. us in the half year up to the change of As ever, the gardens and lawns have Government deserve a special mention, been a delight to all throughout the year. As particularly perhaps those whose working lives the Premier remarked, this year marks the were interrupted by that change and who, in retirement of Head Gardener, John Pullman. some cases, are still looking for positions He joined us here in 1972. He has seen a few where they can properly use their considerable Governments come and go in that mere 26 talents. The Opposition staff has helped years. While his retirement is a matter of tremendously in managing the mid-year regret—no-one likes to lose an old friend, and, change from Government to Opposition. They in so many ways, regardless of our differences, are a team that we on this side of the House we are all friends here—it is also well deserved. can all be proud of and I thank them. Parliament's gardens will be the losers on the deal, but as Mr Pullman would doubtless say In Government and in Opposition, with some force, he leaves a blooming great members and staff alike always have to be ready to put their families and loved ones, and team that will always be a winner. The their private lives and pleasures, to one side in evidence of that is all around us. I know I pursuit of the matter of the moment. Only speak for all members when I say to John: all dedicated people are prepared to do that, and the best for the future, and may all your this is truly one comment that in this place can blooms be little beauties. He served this be made in a wholly bipartisan way in respect Parliament with great distinction and we will of each and every one of the 89 members. miss him. The parliamentary press gallery has I certainly could not have kept up the reason, one would hope, for concluding that pace required of a political leader without the 1998 produced some interesting copy—print or support and affection of my family. My wife, electronic—and we in this House always look Jennifer, has selflessly maintained her deep forward to seeing our endeavours reported understanding of the disruptions to normal life widely and accurately. Last year, I remarked that flow from being a parliamentarian. My that it is often astonishing what is left children have continued their generous and unreported from this place and astounding ready acceptance that sometimes—too what is sometimes regarded as worth often—a political dad cannot be there in reporting. It seems appropriate to repeat that person. They know, I hope, that I am always remark this year. I suspect it will still be relevant with them in spirit. My family has my enduring next year. But the press gallery has an and growing appreciation for finding a way to important and historic role in the legislature. I live with the vagaries and difficulties of politics. thank its members for their scrutiny in the Mr Speaker, on behalf of the Opposition, I public interest over the past year. I join with the thank you for the courtesies that you have Premier in wishing Peter Morley well. At various extended to us during your tenure in office. times, we have been on the receiving end. At This year has been a fractious one. It has times he has been particularly astute; at times been one that in a community less blessed he has missed the mark. I remember that, just than Queensland might indeed have been an before the downfall of the Goss Government, angry one. It is to the credit of every we were described as the "Easybeats". That Queenslander that the political turmoil of this was not one of his better columns. I have to year has been managed with good humour say that, right through the years, I have always and commonsense. It is a fundamental truth in found Peter an absolute gentleman to deal Australia that much more binds us together with, an absolute professional and totally than will ever drive us apart. In this place, as objective to the point of annoying both sides of on the hustings, we debate and we argue and politics at regular intervals. That is probably we are frank. From time to time we upset one 19 Nov 1998 Valedictory 3483 another. That is what Parliament is all about. spotless and make this a home away from That is what parliamentary democracy is all home. The staff who administer our pay and about. Great issues are at stake. Firm opinions the accounts are vital for keeping us out of are held. Forthright points of view are financial hot water and forever in the black. expressed. The day we back away from that is The staff of the Parliamentary Library are the day we cease to be a Parliament. The always on call and provide us with the other fundamental truth of our democracy is necessary and useful information that we use that we do all this in the spirit of one people in this House. We thank the Hansard staff forever held together by a great ideal. I cannot also. Without them, who would ever know that think of a better epitaph for the year now we were even here. Then, of course, there is closing, or a better argument for resolving to the media. While not on the payroll, they are come back here next year and be even better ever present in our mind and we wish them a at the business of building an even greater very merry Christmas and a happy new year. and stronger community. I wish all honourable We can never forget our personal office members, their families and their staff and the staff who equip us for our duties in the House staff of the Parliament all the very best for a and who keep us on the straight and narrow at happy and safe Christmas and new year. all times. I include both our parliamentary staff Mr FELDMAN (Caboolture—ONP) (Leader and the staff back home in our electorate of the One Nation Party) (9.35 p.m.): As much offices, those who meet the public, answer the as I would love to talk as long as the Premier phones, work the fax machines and help build and the Opposition Leader, I will be brief and and maintain our essential public image as to the point. Mr Speaker, I want to thank you servants of the people. firstly for the calmness and the demeanour My best wishes go to our dedicated One that you have displayed in your job. It has not Nation parliamentary staff, who work long been an easy one. I thank you for the way you hours and climb the highest verbal mountains have acted in that capacity. One Nation was to bring us the essential professional services new to this Parliament. We came in not well beyond the call of duty. Then there are particularly knowing where to go. It was our wives and our families, who put up with us, pleasing to see so many members who were firstly, and who are ever there in a supportive more than willing to tell us where to go. role attending public meetings with us, the I would like to thank the Premier and the garden parties, and putting up with the Opposition Leader for the courtesies that they endless speech making. To all of those who have displayed to us in this place. I thank serve us, I thank them. They are appreciated, them most sincerely. It has been my pleasure they are wanted and they are not taken for to support the comments of both the Premier granted—not at all. Thankyou, thankyou, and the Leader of the Opposition in thankyou one and all. commending the service of the staff of this Before I conclude, I would like to make Parliament. Parliamentary leaders of all parties mention of two people who are not with us appreciate the loyalty, the hard work and here at the moment. Dorothy Pratt, my deputy, dedication and the professionalism of all the is at home in Kingaroy still recovering from staff in this place. We receive in quantity and injuries. I last saw Dorothy last week, still in a quality from the staff here in Parliament House. It would be a cold and at times very neck brace with her arm in a sling. We have unpleasant place to be if it were not for the doctors' reports saying that she will be right in heartfelt and, at times, generous support of about eight weeks. We wish Dorothy a speedy the staff here at Parliament House who look and full recovery from those injuries. after our many needs, especially for the Along with the Premier, I would like to country members. To highlight that point, I mention Charlie Rappolt. The Premier saw him point out that my 14-year-old son who on Saturday; I saw him on Friday. Charlie is attended dinner here was so affected by the perhaps not quite the man he was when he warmness and generosity that was displayed first came to Parliament. My heart goes out to to him that he purchased some flowers for one Charlie and to his family. We wish him a very of the staff in the restaurant. He still thinks speedy and a full recovery. I pray that his fondly of Mary even now. family have a very special, a very happy and a We would like to thank the staff of the very holy new year. cafeteria and the restaurant for the help that To one and all, I wish both sides of this they put in in keeping us fed and secure; the House a merry Christmas and a very staff on security patrols who keep us protected prosperous new year in this the approaching and secure; the night staff who keep us safe season of the Prince of Peace. May his spirit and keep our house neat and tidy and move upon and among all of us, blessing us 3484 Valedictory 19 Nov 1998 one and all. In closing, I do wish all members a thanks to all the staff who assist us in so many very heartfelt, a very happy, a very holy and a ways here and, of course, who assist me more very blessed Christmas and a very bright and than most. I could not hope to name them all, blessed new year. Thank you. but there are a few who deserve special Mr SPEAKER: Honourable members, my mention. Special thanks are due to Robert experiences of this place have changed quite Doyle and Neil Laurie and, of course, to Bob a bit since the election. I must say, though, Fick, who is the Executive Director of Corporate that I have enjoyed the Parliament from this and Property Services. I join with the leaders different perspective. I wish to thank all also in wishing John Pullman well in his members tonight for their cooperation and, of retirement. When one attains the position of course, their friendship. It is not always easy Speaker, one understands just how much sitting here and being the adjudicator between those five gardeners do around this place to warring sides. However, I think that most of the make the gardens so beautiful for our guests time we have equal respect for each other. I and so that we ourselves can appreciate the think that, at the end of the day, that always surroundings in which we work. shows. I would particularly like to thank my wife, I want to thank those who have assisted Diane, for the work that she puts in here as my me and the table staff in the good order of the partner and also in running our home. It is a Assembly. Thanks to the Premier, the Leader very difficult job in some ways. of the Opposition, other party leaders, Whips Mr Hamill: She is in the gallery. and the Leader of the House. Most Mr SPEAKER: She is. Thank you, Diane. importantly, thank you to my tremendous It is a very difficult job to be not only a wife and Temporary Chairman, who is so enthusiastic a mother but also to fulfil the role that all that I do not get the opportunity to sit in this members' partners play in the work of a chair much apart from during question time. It parliamentarian. I am also very appreciative of is wonderful to see new members take on that my family life. task and do it so well. Finally, my personal staff deserve thanks. All members work hard during the year, Here at Parliament House I have Stirling, especially in an election year, not only in this Christina and Col to keep my on my toes, while Chamber but also in their electorate offices. I Bob ferries me to Redcliffe where Julianna and am progressively visiting all of those offices Val maintain my electorate office. My best and, indeed, the hardworking electorate Christmas and new year wishes to all officers who run them. I think that all members members, their staff, Parliament House staff will join me in thanking all the electorate and our friends in the media. I would like to officers for their excellent work. conclude by inviting all of you and your Speaking of excellent workers, I support partners to join me upon the adjournment in the leaders' comments about the staff here at the Strangers Dining Room to enjoy some light Parliament House. I am continuing to come to refreshments. grips with the tremendous variety of work that Motion agreed to. goes on here to allow us to serve our community in this beautiful Parliament. I say The House adjourned at 9.45 p.m.

R. G. GILES, ACTING GOVERNMENT PRINTER, QUEENSLAND—1998