DANGEROUS GAME CARTRIDGES ------:Love your magazine. Could the .45-70 in Africa, where he used So, it may be logical, from Q you guys do a study on the a Cor-Bon 400-grain solid to shoot Brian's account., to assume the .45-70 in comparison to other dan a Cape buffalo, whereupon the .45-70 is perfectly adeq uate foJ' gerous game cartridges'? Perhaps bullet exited the bull and killed a Cape buffalo - assuming one is test the Garre t and Buffalo Bore cow buffalo that had gone unno using a 400-grain solid at appl'oxi rounds against the .375 H&H or ticed on the other side of the bull . ITlately 1,800 fvs and the range is .458 Winchester Magnum or LoU'? The bull took off, and Brian shot. it limited to 100 yards or less. Most If you check out many of the fo in the south pnd where the solid folks would be tempted to ask rums, you will see heated debates penetrated to the heart., ending whether Brian's hunt would have on this topic. Would be a great the affair in fairly short fashion. turned up similar results if he had seller ror you guys and a great read for liS!! - C.AL., via Int.ernet
used a 400-grain softnose. Either way, it's a bit of a stretch to com pare Brian's load in the .45-70 to a 300-grain solid at 2,400 fps from a .375 H&H, or a 500-grain solid at. 2, 100 or 2,300 fps from the .458 Wirrchester or Lott. U's plainly ob vious, or should be, that t:he two .4:')8 belted cartridges pack a lot more clout t.han the .45-70, regard less of which performance crite 1 2 3 4 rion anyone migl1t choose, i .e. A: Good idea, but the n'uth is, kinetic energy or Taylor's knock there is no comparison between out formula. the .45-70 and the .375 H&H, .458 The comparison, Olen, should re Winchester Magnum <;>f .458 Loti.. ally address t.hese cartridges in And, at the risk of possibly incit Anyone can hunt potentially terms of performance potential on ing a riot on the Internet, I'll tell large game, o}' at what point is a you why. dangerous game with the .45-70 (1), but fighting cartridges like the cart.ridge consic\ered adequate or Right off, I would imagine this (2) .458 Winchester Magnum, acceptable in terms of producing "debate" is somewhat inspired by (3) .375 H&H and (4) .458 Lott are a high percentage of one-shot kills the stor-y Brian Pearce did about. in a completely different class. on buffalo, lions or even elephant.
6 www.ri{/emagazine.com Rifle 213 Obviously, the performance eval it should be plainly obvious that if B,ullet Swaging uation has to include bullets, soft one is to error in cartridge selec Stuff noses, solids or whatever, like the tioll for such work, it is best to Equipment, Information, X-Bullet. If we restric t the dia elTor 011 the heavier side. At that, Used & Surplus Gear logue to softnose bullets, the .45- there ill'e countless hOl1'or stories An online at: 70 with a 400-grain Kod ia 1< or of Cape buffalo taking multiple www.rceco.com Hawk with a .050-inch jacket is hi ts from .458 Wincheste rs or probably acceptable for Cape buf .470 NE doubles, or combinations RCE Co" 4090 Colver Rei, falo, assuming proper blllleL place r,hereof, b(~ fort' giving up or Phoenix, OR 97535 ment. That also applies to the ,375 stomping on some llnfortunate Tel: 1-541 -512-0440 H&H with a Swift A-Prame or soul's body parts. There is even a Fax: 1-541-5 J 2-9433 well-documented episode where a E-Mail [email protected] NosIer Partition. Bllt, no matter how you cut it, a 500-graill, .468- huge Cape buffalo took a 400- inch bulleL at 2,000 fps impact ve grain ,bullet through the heart locity delivers a tremendous blow, from a .404 Jeffel)', and it waited WORLO'S FINEST PRODUrCTlON' even on soft body shots. The same in ambush for 30 minutes, at RIFLE BARRELS could be said of the .470 NE or the which time the hunter approached .404 .Jeffery and .416 Higby or and the bull got up and charged, Remington Magnum. All assum receiving another slug in the eye ~LAS ing, of course, the bullet is up to at spitting distance. UL TRARIFLED the job at hanet. So, it's not adequate to address BARRELS IN MOST SIZES, I'm also reminded that there arc the problem of how carLridges SHAPES AND CALIBERS. hunting cartridges and fighting might compare in normal hunting . Stainless steel or chrome' moly' cartridges, the latter being those sit uations. It is only when the -AFFORDABLE aUALlTY- that: are required to adminisLer a worst: possible scenario is consid Wrile (0' tree information to' one-shot st.op in a fight that wa" ered that tIle wheat is cl early sep DOUGLAS BARRELS, INC. started with a .375 H&H, for in arated from the chaff. " 5504 Big Tyler Rd" RM5 :;c- - stance. So, while it may be possi .j Charleston, WV 25~ 13 VIS( I The point of all t his is that we • _' _ 304-nli-1341 FAX 304-776-8560 ' ble to stop an enraged four-footed could argue La th€ point of re a,ntagonist with a .45-70, the .458 ductio ad absurdum as to whether LotL and .470 NE are superior or not the ,45-70 is the equal of tools for the job. other, more established danger Then there's an experience my ous gante caJtridges. But it is i11\ friend Martin Pieters recounted pOltant t:O keep in mind that the one evening as we lounged around animal is only dangerous if t.he sit the campfire in the Okavango last uation is screwed up or gets out oJ August:. It seerns one of his cUents han(!. So, let's consider, hypotheti cally, if the bull Brian shot turned wounded a. Cape buffalo, and th(~ y the other way and came back at f;'li1(~ d to find it hefore the client had to leave. So, Martin went back them. All of a sudden, lhe lables out and spent two days searching have turned, and the animal be tlu'ougn a little less than 2,000 buf comes a selioos threat. Would the falo before he found the wounded .45-70 with a 400-gl'ain solid at bull, which promptly took exc-clr 1,800 fps be enough to stop the lion to M.artin's intl'\lsion and bull before it hooks a horn into charged. Martin responded wi th a someone? SOO-grain .470 solid, between the I'm also mindiul of the fact the eyes, ancl the bull fell dead at his most vocal critics of any C 8 www.rif/emagazine.com Rifle 213 black-powder cartridge takes on an entirely different personality. WALNUT GUN STOCK BLANKS (Hornady lists lo~.c1s for its 500- From Tree to Sawmill to You - No Middleman grain solid at 1,800 fps ill t.he .45- 70 Ruger No. \.) The same could FREE Brochure • Visit our Web site: be said for the .450 Marlin, .450 clarowalnutgunstocks.com AJaskan, .45-90 WCF and, to SOlne degree, smokeless loads in the .50- CLARO WALNUT GUNSTOCK CO. 100-450 in modern rines. There's 1235 Stanley Av~ .• Chico, CA 95928 even the .50 AJuskan to consider, Phone: (530) 342-5188 • F.ax: (530) 342-5199 especially when it tosses 450-grain - Since 1949 - buBers around at a bit over 2,000 fps from all 18,[~-inch barrel and 535-grain bullets at 1,BoO fps I'rom Still cleaning the old smelly, messy way? a 2fi-illCh tube. 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So, what about the debate com paring the .375 H&H, etc" etc? Rest assured, it will rage on, fos tered on both sides by criLics who would never dream of using a .45- 70 on anything, let alone a Cape buffalo, and big-bore fanatics who claim any bullet at less than 2,000 fps that generates anything less thrut 5,000 foot-pounds at the muz zle is doomed to failure on rulY an imallarger than a 40-pound diker. This reminds me of a reader who asked which of two cast bullets - an RCBS .45-270 SAA (SWC) or LBT WFN - of equal weight at the same velocity had superior killing power on hogs or deer-sized game. I suggested il would be a tossup, but the WFN might kill the animal deader than the RCBS bul let would, Then too, I couldn't prove it because, to my knowl edge, there is no scale of "relative deadness." That is, where a 1 would be just "dead" and 2 would be "deader," 3 would be "stone dead" and so on. 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These represent [he majority of .357 Magnum chambered long guns in tile hands of shooters. There are, ho",,'ever, several single-shot rines that have been offered periodically, includ ing the Ruger No. I, Browning \Iodel 1885 and economically priced break open actions from Harrington & Hichardson and New England FIrearms. A variet.y of combination guns have been of JI~ - fered in this caliber, but leverguns ~357MAG. by rl 158 GR • .IACKrnD SOFT POINT . 30-30 WIN. are far the most common. HUIffiIIa 150 GR. POWE ·POINT 1<3575P • J03(i6 Of the many .357 leverguns around, the Marlin Model 1894 is 58 www.rif/emagazine.com Rifle 213 I wwu rill m yazl, e.com 59 - Miero-Groove" rliling, so a few rernarks ;;. about these barrels """-II' ~YJ seem appropriate. '7 This rifling system has been the victim of vicious rumors, lea\>ing some owners with I.he impression they are lousy for east bullets. Several times I have visited with Micro-Groove owners who claimed their guns wouldn't shoot cast. bullets, but when they were quizzed on specific loads, they admitted they had never tried The ,357 Magnum cartridge is popular with cowboy action shooters in them but had been told I.hey leverguns and single-action revolvers, but it's a.lso useful tor hunting and wouldn't work. This is unfOliunate defense. Here we have a Browning Model 92, a 2nd generation Colt Single as the Micro-Groove rifling has the Adion and a Smith & Wesson Model 66. potential to be one of the best bar rels for lead bullets, as distortion is cast bullets. Yor those who shoot: dose to one inch at 100 yards with mil~or, yet the barrel holds the bul jacketed bullets, the Micro-Groove either cast or jacketed bullet am let firmly. (Marlin rifles charnbered rining is generally accurate right munition. Recently I purchased a in .22 LR and featuring the same out of the box, but the above "tune Marlin Model lSG4 Cowboy in ,357 Iif1ing have a Eeputation for good up" procedure usually proves ben Magnum that cuts ragged holes at accLIl"acy with lead butlets.) eficial fot" them as well. 75 yards lIsing the ISS-grain Speer Gold Dot bullet driven 1,900 to .3575 The Ballard rifling was brought Granted some Marlin shoot 2,100 fps. It does almost that well back because of the tl'end toward cast bullets well, while others are with several cast bullets, not. so good. Several factors can af cast bullets among shooters. fect how they perform, but the hunters and cowboy action com , most common accuracy thIef can petitors, It gives good accuracy Micro .. Qroove rifling usually be traced to the rather with any reasonable bullel but also has the potential to be abrupt leade from the chamber gives out.,tanding results with jack into the rifling. Heclltting this leade eted versions. 1 hav<~ worked with one of the best barrels to 1%i degrees usually improves ac several recent manufactured Bal for lead bullets. cura.cy, Also, some Micro-Groove lard titled Marhl1 guns chalnhered barrels are a bil rough, and fire in .25-20 WCF, .:~2-20 WCF, .30 The Amel'iean-made Winchester lapping may be necessary to gel WCF ..38-55, .44 Magnum, .45 Colt Model 94, the Japanese Winchester them to perform up to snuff with and .4.5-70, and most will shoot (USRAC) Model 1892 and the dis continued Browning Model 92 fea The 357 Magnum has become popular in lellehlctiotr rifles for home de ture rifling lhat works well with fense. With a little practice, most shooters can (ire nine aimed shots in less either cast or jacketed bullets, as than fille seconds. does the Uberti manufactured Model 1873 Winchester replicas. 1 have had the opportunity to give each of the above a workout, and if time is taken to find the right load, each has proven capable of l~-inch groups or smaller at 75 yards. More than 20 years ago, I pur chased a Browning Model 92 so chambered, and l'ighL out of the box, it would consistently group around one inch at 75 yards with loads employing eit.her cast or jacketed bullets. A gun dealer of fered me a ridiculously high price (It had an exceptionally well fig ured French walnut stock.), and I let it go but soon located another one and purcha...,ed it, which shot pretty much like the first. 60 www.ri(lemagazine.com Rifle 213 of the pickup, serving as a backup should something go awry with Susan's pr imary r ifle, a scoped 7x57mm Maus er. She had been shooting the Browning regularly in casual practice or plinking ses sions and cOl,lld hit very well with it at 75 t.o 100 yards offhand. A Browning Model 92 would consistently gloup alound one inch at 75 yards. For some unknown r eason, when we left the pickup, she elected t.o Slow-burning magnum handgun powders offer top performance in .357 take the Browning .3:37 ~'Iagnum, \.1agnum hand/Dads. rather than the 7x57, Perhaps the light, easy-to-c arr y carbine ap peale d to her in t.he ste(:~p moun Lil Some jacketed 357 Magnum bullets There are a variety of factory loads that help the .357 Magnum's versatility: are 100 frangible when fired from a .38 Special/Dads work best on small table fare, while full-house magnums rit1e, so choose bullets carefully, are befter for deer-sized game or defense, ~ '- ' IVtay-June 2004 www.riflemagazine.com 61 ~~~. sight of the deer first, ":~ ~ so just settled in the . sagebmsh and waited ~fill' i::!/ for my wife to ge t ~ C ( ~ into position and at- temp\' to take he r first deer. (Even though season was open for either sex, I suggested she take a doe to allow the young buck to grow up.) She hat! a per [eel broadside shot at something around 60 estimated yards, anel r Most .357 Magnum lever-action rit7es will function best if the overall car was in the unique posit.ion to see tridge lengfh is kept to less than 1.605 inches. the shot. fired with the doe facing me. The Speer bullet struck the shoulder and exited the other side, tional mule deer, black bear and t.en!. while living in a remote which put the deer down instantly. considerable SInal! game including wilderness area of the southeast She managed to get up and take a raccoons, skunks, beaver, badger ern U.S. in the early 19705. He couple wobbly steps then went and a ha.ncU'ul of coyotes that were pra.ised its versatility and handi down and exp.ired. called within ISO yards. As long as IH~ sS but also commented it was the right bullets are use d, the the "darndest killer for a sm all above perfonl1 hollowpoinl configurations with a SAVAUE ARMS, INC "8 MOUHTAltJ ROllO, SUfFlf.lO. CT 06078 gas check. 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