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Vol. 143 WASHINGTON, WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 3, 1997 No. 114 House of Representatives The House met at 12 noon. with an amendment in which the con- ator from New Jersey [Mr. LAUTEN- The Chaplain, Rev. James David currence of the House is requested, a BERG], and the Senator from Nevada Ford, D.D., offered the following bill of the House of the following title: [Mr. REID]. prayer: H.R. 2160. An act making appropriations The message also announced that We know, gracious God, how we plan for Agriculture, Rural Development, Food pursuant to Public Law 94–304, as our lives and how we anticipate the and Drug Administration, and Related Agen- amended by Public Law 99–7, the Chair, fullness of all the days ahead, and we cies programs for the fiscal year ending Sep- on behalf of the Vice President, ap- tember 30, 1998, and for other purposes. also know that our plans are not our points the following Senators to the own and that we experience broken The message also announced that the Commission on Security and Coopera- dreams and shattered hearts. We re- Senate insists upon its amendment to tion in Europe—the Senator from Mon- member this day all those whose lives the bill (H.R. 2160) ‘‘An Act making ap- tana [Mr. BURNS], the Senator from are broken by pain and sadness and we propriations for Agriculture, Rural De- Colorado [Mr. CAMPBELL], the Senator look to Your word for comfort and sol- velopment, Food and Drug Administra- from Maine [Ms. SNOWE], and the Sen- ace. O God, creator of the world and tion, and Related Agencies programs ator from Michigan [Mr. ABRAHAM]. author of salvation, from whom we for the fiscal year ending September 30, f have come and to whom we shall re- 1998, and for other purposes,’’ requests a conference with the House on the dis- COMMUNICATION FROM THE turn, bless all who mourn and experi- agreeing votes of the two Houses there- CLERK OF THE HOUSE ence the uncertainty of life. May all on, and appoints Mr. COCHRAN, Mr. The SPEAKER laid before the House Your people, O God, be strengthened in SPECTER, Mr. BOND, Mr. GORTON, Mr. the following communication from the the knowledge of Your eternal hope MCCONNELL, Mr. BURNS, Mr. STEVENS, Clerk of the House of Representatives: and receive that peace that passes all Mr. BUMPERS, Mr. HARKIN, Mr. KOHL, U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, human understanding, now and for- Mr. BYRD, Mr. LEAHY, and Mr. INOUYE, OFFICE OF THE CLERK, evermore. Amen. to be the conferees on the part of the Washington, DC, August 1, 1997. f Senate. Hon. NEWT GINGRICH, The message also announced that the Speaker, U.S. House of Representatives, Wash- THE JOURNAL ington, DC. Senate has passed bills of the following DEAR MR. SPEAKER: Pursuant to the per- The SPEAKER. The Chair has exam- titles in which the concurrence of the ined the Journal of the last day’s pro- mission granted to Clause 5 of Rule III of the House is requested: Rules of the U.S. House of Representatives, ceedings and announces to the House S. 797. An act to amend the John F. Ken- the Clerk received the following message his approval thereof. nedy Center Act to authorize the design and from the Secretary of the Senate on Friday, Pursuant to clause 1, rule I, the Jour- construction of additions to the parking ga- August 1, 1997 at 12:00 p.m.: that the Senate nal stands approved. rage and certain site improvements, and for passed without amendment H.R. 584, that the f other purposes; Senate passed without amendment H.R. 1198, S. 910. An act to authorize appropriations that the Senate passed without amendment PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE for carrying out the Earthquake Hazards Re- H.R. 1944. With warm regards, The SPEAKER. Will the gentleman duction Act of 1977 for fiscal years 1998 and 1999, and for other purposes; ROBIN H. CARLE, from North Carolina [Mr. JONES] come S. 996. An act to provide for the authoriza- Clerk, U.S. House of Representatives. forward and lead the House in the tion of appropriations in each fiscal year for f Pledge of Allegiance. arbitration in United States district courts; Mr. JONES led the Pledge of Alle- and ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE SPEAKER giance as follows: S. 1120. An act to provide for a consultant The SPEAKER. The Chair desires to for the President pro tempore. I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the announce that pursuant to clause 4 of United States of America, and to the Repub- The message also announced that rule I, the Speaker signed the following lic for which it stands, one nation under God, pursuant to Public Law 94–304, as enrolled bills on Friday, August 1, 1997: indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. amended by Public Law 99–7, the Chair, H.R. 408, to amend the Marine Mam- f on behalf of the Vice President, ap- mal Protection Act of 1972 to support points the following Senators to the the International Dolphin Conserva- MESSAGE FROM THE SENATE Commission on Security and Coopera- tion Program in the eastern tropical A message from the Senate by Mr. tion in Europe—the Senator from Wis- Pacific Ocean, and for other purposes; Lundregan, one of its clerks, an- consin [Mr. FEINGOLD], the Senator H.R. 584, for the relief of John Wesley nounced that the Senate had passed from Florida [Mr. GRAHAM], the Sen- Davis;

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H6717 H6718 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 3, 1997 H.R. 1198, to direct the Secretary of from the U.S. House of Representatives, ef- Hon. NEWT GINGRICH, the Interior to convey certain land to fective October 15, 1997. Speaker of the House of Representatives, the city of Grants Pass, OR; My duties and responsibilities as pastor of Washington, DC. H.R. 1585, to allow postal patrons to the Allen A.M.E. Church in Jamaica, New DEAR MR. SPEAKER: In accordance with the contribute to funding for breast cancer York, has grown to such a level that I am Line Item Veto Act, I hereby cancel one item needed there on a more consistent basis. I of new direct spending, as specified in the at- research through the voluntary pur- have enjoyed the opportunities that you tached report, contained in the ‘‘Balanced chase of certain specially issued U.S. have given me to converse with you regard- Budget Act of 1997’’ (Public Law 105–33; H.R. postage stamps, and for other purposes; ing my ideas for community, educational, 2015). I have determined that this cancella- H.R. 1944, to provide for a land ex- and economic development. I hope that my tion will reduce the Federal budget deficit, change involving the Warner Canyon leaving does not preclude our ability to, in will not impair any essential Government ski area and other land in the State of some way, continue these discussions in the functions, and will not harm the national in- Oregon; future. terest. This letter, together with its attach- H.R. 2014, to provide for reconcili- With warmest regards, I am ment, constitutes a special message under ation pursuant to subsections (b)(2) and Sincerely, section 1022 of the Congressional Budget and (d) of section 105 of the concurrent res- FLOYD H. FLAKE, Impoundment Control Act of 1974, as amend- Member of Congress. ed. olution on the budget for fiscal year Sincerely, 1998; and HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, WILLIAM J. CLINTON. H.R. 2015, to provide for reconcili- Washington, DC, August 1, 1997. f ation pursuant to subsections (b)(1) and Hon. GEORGE E. PATAKI, (c) of section 105 of the concurrent res- State of New York, COMMUNICATION FROM THE olution on the budget for fiscal year Office of the Governor, Albany, NY CLERK OF THE HOUSE 1998. DEAR GOVERNOR PATAKI. This missive f comes as an official announcement of my The SPEAKER laid before the House resignation from the U.S. House of Rep- the following communication from the ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE SPEAKER resentatives, effective October 15, 1997. Clerk of the House of Representatives: My duties and responsibilities as pastor of The SPEAKER. Pursuant to the pro- OFFICE OF THE CLERK, Allen A.M.E. Church have grown to a level visions of House Resolution 157 and the HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, which necessitates my presence on a more Washington, DC, August 11, 1997. order of the House of Thursday, July consistent basis. Hon. NEWT GINGRICH, 31, 1997, the Speaker on Thursday, Au- I have called your office, and hope to be The Speaker, House of Representatives, gust 7, 1997 announced the following able to speak with you in the near future. Washington, DC. Members of the House as members of With warmest regards, I am DEAR MR. SPEAKER: Pursuant to the per- Sincerely, the delegation attending the 50th anni- mission granted in Clause 5 of Rule III of the FLOYD H. FLAKE, versary of the independence of India Rules of the U.S. House of Representatives, I Member of Congress. and Pakistan: Messrs. GILMAN of New have the honor to transmit correspondence York; ACKERMAN of New York; HAST- f received from the White House on August 11, INGS of Florida; ENGEL of New York; 1997 at 3:12 p.m. and said to contain a mes- and FALEOMAVAEGA of American COMMUNICATION FROM THE sage from the President pursuant to the Line Samoa. Item Veto Act (P.L. 104–130) transmitting CLERK OF THE HOUSE two cancellations with respect to the Tax- f The SPEAKER laid before the House payer Relief Act of 1997 (P.L. 105–34). COMMUNICATION FROM THE the following communication from the With warm regards, CLERK OF THE HOUSE Clerk of the House of Representatives: ROBIN H. CARLE, Clerk, House of Representatives. The SPEAKER laid before the House OFFICE OF THE CLERK, the following communication from the HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, f Clerk of the House of Representatives: Washington, DC, August 11, 1997. Hon. NEWT GINGRICH, CANCELLATION OF TWO LIMITED HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, Speaker, House of Representatives, TAX BENEFITS WITH RESPECT OFFICE OF THE CLERK, Washington, DC. TO TAXPAYER RELIEF ACT OF Washington, DC, August 1, 1997. DEAR MR. SPEAKER: Pursuant to the per- 1997—MESSAGE FROM THE PRESI- Hon. NEWT GINGRICH, mission granted in Clause 5 of Rule III of the Speaker, House of Representatives, Washington, DENT OF THE UNITED STATES Rules of the U.S. House of Representatives. I DC. (H. DOC. NO. 105–116) have the honor to transmit correspondence DEAR MR. SPEAKER: Under Clause 4 of Rule The SPEAKER laid before the House III of the Rules of the U.S. House of Rep- received from the White House on August 11, resentatives, I herewith designate Mr. Jeff 1997 at 3:12 p.m. and said to contain a mes- the following message from the Presi- Trandahl, Deputy Clerk, along with Ms. sage from the President pursuant to the Line dent of the United States; which was Julie Perrier, Assistant Clerk and Mr. Ray Item Veto Act (P.L. 104–130) transmitting read and, together with the accom- Strong, Assistant Clerk, to sign any and all one cancellation with respect to the Bal- panying papers, pursuant to section papers and do all other acts for me under the anced Budget Act of 1997 (P.L. 105–33). 1025(a) of the Congressional Budget With warm regards, name of the Clerk of the House which they Act, referred to the Committee on the would be authorized to do by virtue of this ROBIN H. CARLE, Clerk, House of Representatives. Budget and the Committee on Ways designation, except such as are provided by and Means and ordered to be printed: statute, in case of my temporary absence or f disability. THE WHITE HOUSE, This designation shall remain in effect for Washington, August 11, 1997. the 105th Congress or until modified by me. CANCELLATION OF ITEM OF DI- Hon. NEWT GINGRICH, Sincerely yours, RECT SPENDING WITH RESPECT Speaker of the House of Representatives, ROBIN H. CARLE, TO BALANCED BUDGET ACT OF Washington, DC. Clerk, House of Representatives. 1997—MESSAGE FROM THE PRESI- DEAR MR. SPEAKER: In accordance with the f DENT OF THE UNITED STATES Line Item Veto Act, I hereby cancel two lim- (H. DOC. NO. 105–115) ited tax benefits, as specified in the attached RESIGNATION FROM THE HOUSE reports, contained in the ‘‘Taxpayer Relief OF REPRESENTATIVES The SPEAKER laid before the House Act of 1997’’ (Public Law 105–34; H.R. 2014). I have determined that each of these cancella- The SPEAKER laid before the House the following message from the Presi- dent of the United States; which was tions will reduce the Federal budget deficit, the following resignation from the will not impair any essential Government House of Representatives: read and, together with the accom- panying papers, pursuant to section functions, and will not harm the national in- terest. This letter, together with its attach- HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, 1025(a) of the Congressional Budget Washington, DC, August 4, 1997. ments, constitutes a special message under Hon. NEWT GINGRICH, Act, referred to the Committee on the section 1022 of the Congressional Budget and Speaker of the House, The Capitol, H–232, Budget and the Committee on Com- Impoundment Control Act of 1974, as amend- Washington, DC. merce and ordered to be printed: ed. DEAR MR. SPEAKER: This missive comes as THE WHITE HOUSE, Sincerely, an official announcement of my resignation Washington, August 11, 1997. WILLIAM J. CLINTON. September 3, 1997 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6719 COMMUNICATION FROM CHAIRMAN servation and restoration, wildlife habitat, ficient court operations that will minimize OF COMMITTEE ON TRANSPOR- commercial and recreational fishing, salt- the size and cost of the building to be con- TATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE water intrusion, fresh water and sediment di- structed. version, and other purposes in the area Provided further, That any design shall in- The SPEAKER laid before the House drained by the intercepted drainage system corporate changes to the 1994 and 1997 U.S. the following communication from the of the West Atchafalaya Basin Protection Courts Design Guide including the implemen- chairman of the Committee on Trans- Levee, from Alexandria, Louisiana, to the tation of a policy on shared facilities for sen- portation and Infrastructure, which Gulf of Mexico. ior judges. was read and referred to the Commit- tee on Appropriations: RESOLUTION: DOCKET 2536—SUSQUEHANNA DESIGN: UNITED STATES COURTHOUSE, MIAMI, RIVER, PENNSYLVANIA FLORIDA COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION AND Resolved by the Committee on Transpor- Resolved by the Committee on Transportation INFRASTRUCTURE, HOUSE OF REP- tation and Infrastructure of the United and Infrastructure of the U.S. House of Rep- RESENTATIVES, States House of Representatives, That the resentatives, That pursuant to section 7 of the Washington, DC, July 25, 1997. Secretary of the Army is requested to review Public Buildings Act of 1959, (40 U.S.C. § 606), Hon. NEWT GINGRICH, the report of the Chief of Engineers on the appropriations are authorized in the amount Speaker of the House, U.S. House of Represent- Susquehanna River in Sunbury, Pennsylva- of $6,100,000 for the design of a 498,912 gross atives, Washington, DC. nia, published as House Document 366, 76th square foot United States courthouse, in- DEAR MR. SPEAKER: Enclosed are copies of cluding 50 inside parking spaces, in Miami, resolutions adopted on July 23, 1997 by the Congress, 1st Session, and other pertinent re- Florida, a prospectus for which is attached Committee on Transportation and Infra- ports, to determine whether modifications of to, and included in, this resolution. structure. Copies of the resolutions are being the recommendations contained therein are advisable at the present time to construct Provided, That any design shall, to the transmitted to the Department of the Army. maximum extent possible, incorporate With kind personal regards, I am conduits for the Susquehanna River in shared or collegial space, consistent with ef- Sincerely, Sunbury, Pennsylvania in the interest of ficient court operations that will minimize BUD SHUSTER, Chairman. flood control and public safety. the size and cost of the building to be con- Enclosures. RESOLUTION: DOCKET 2537—MASSACHUSETTS & structed. RESOLUTION: DOCKET 2532—NEUSE RIVER BASIN, CAPE COD BAYS, MASSACHUSETTS Provided further, That any design shall in- NORTH CAROLINA corporate changes to the 1994 and 1997 U.S. Resolved by the Committee on Transpor- Resolved by the Committee on Transpor- Courts Design Guide including the implemen- tation and Infrastructure of the United tation and Infrastructure of the United tation of a policy on shared facilities for sen- States House of Representatives, That the States House of Representatives, That the ior judges. Secretary of the Army is requested to review Secretary of the Army is requested to review the report of the Chief of Engineers on the the report of the Chief of Engineers on the DESIGN: FRANK E. MOSS COURTHOUSE/ANNEX, Massachusetts and Cape Cod Bays, Massa- Neuse River Basin, North Carolina, published SALT LAKE CITY, UTAH as House Document 175, 89th Congress, 1st chusetts, published as Senate Document 14, 85th Congress, and other pertinent reports, Resolved by the Committee on Transportation Session, and other pertinent reports, to de- and Infrastructure of the U.S. House of Rep- termine whether modifications of the rec- to determine whether modifications of the recommendations contained therein are ad- resentatives, That pursuant to section 7 of the ommendations contained therein are advis- Public Buildings Act of 1959, (40 U.S.C. § 606), able at the present time in the interest of visable in the interest of environmental res- toration and other allied purposes along the appropriations are authorized in the amount flood control, environmental protection and of $4,918,000 for the design of a 229,300 gross restoration, and related purposes. Massachusetts and Cape Cod Bay, coastal shoreline and associated waters. square foot annex building including 78 in- side parking spaces, in Salt Lake City, Utah, f RESOLUTION: DOCKET 2533—TAMPA HARBOR, a prospectus for which is attached to, and in- FLORIDA COMMUNICATION FROM CHAIRMAN cluded in, this resolution. Resolved by the Committee on Transpor- OF COMMITTEE ON TRANSPOR- Provided, That any design shall, to the tation and Infrastructure of the United TATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE maximum extent possible, incorporate States House of Representatives, That the shared or collegial space, consistent with ef- Secretary of the Army is requested to review The SPEAKER laid before the House ficient court operations that will minimize the report of the Chief of Engineers on the the following communication from the the size and cost of the building to be con- Tampa Harbor, Florida, published as House chairman of the Committee on Trans- structed. Document 401, 91st Congress, 2nd Session and portation and Infrastructure, which Provided further, That any design shall in- other pertinent reports, with a view of deter- was read and referred to the Commit- corporate changes to the 1994 and 1997 U.S. mining if the authorized project should be Courts Design Guide including the implemen- modified in any way at this time, with par- tee on Appropriations: tation of a policy on shared facilities for sen- ticular reference to deep draft anchorage. COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION AND ior judges. INFRASTRUCTURE, HOUSE OF REP- RESOLUTION: DOCKET 2534—OWASCO LAKE RESENTATIVES, DESIGN: FEDERAL BUILDING—UNITED STATES SEAWALL, NEW YORK Washington, DC, August 13, 1997. COURTHOUSE, FRESNO, CALIFORNIA Resolved by the Committee on Transpor- Hon. NEWT GINGRICH, Resolved by the Committee on Transportation tation and Infrastructure of the United Speaker, House of Representatives, The Capitol, and Infrastructure of the U.S. House of Rep- States House of Representatives, That the Washington, DC. resentatives, That pursuant to section 7 of the Secretary of the Army is requested to review DEAR NEWT: Enclosed please find copies of Public Buildings Act of 1959, (40 U.S.C. § 606), the report of the Chief of Engineers on the resolutions approved by the Committee on appropriations are authorized in the amount Owasco Lake Seawall, New York, published Transportation and Infrastructure on July of $4,775,000 for the design of a 360,000 gross as Senate Document 133, 84th Congress, 2nd 23, 1997, in accordance with 40 U.S.C. Sec. 606. square foot Federal building-United States Session, and other pertinent reports, to de- With warm regards, I remain courthouse, including 112 inside parking termine if modifications to the authorized Sincerely, spaces, in Fresno, California, a prospectus project as contained therein, should include BUD SHUSTER, Chairman. for which is attached to, and included in, the rehabilitation of the seawalls to prevent Enclosures. this resolution. flooding and control water flows along the DESIGN: UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT Provided, That any design shall, to the outlet, are appropriate at this time. EXPANSION BUILDING, DENVER, COLORADO maximum extent possible, incorporate Resolved by the Committee on Transportation shared or collegial space, consistent with ef- RESOLUTION: DOCKET 2535—ALEXANDRIA TO THE and Infrastructure of the U.S. House of Rep- ficient court operations that will minimize GULF, LOUISIANA resentatives, That pursuant to section 7 of the the size and cost of the building to be con- Resolved by the Committee on Transpor- Public Buildings Act of 1959, (40 U.S.C. § 606), structed. tation and Infrastructure of the United appropriations in the amount of $4,671,000 are Provided further, That any design shall in- States House of Representatives, That the authorized for the design of a 350,500 gross corporate changes to the 1994 and 1997 U.S. Secretary of the Army is requested to review square foot expansion building, including 125 Courts Design Guide including the implemen- the report of the Chief of Engineers on the inside parking spaces, and connecting tunnel tation of a policy on shared facilities for sen- Mississippi River and Tributaries Project, to the existing Byron G. Rogers Federal ior judges. published as House Document 308, 88th Con- Building-Courthouse in Denver, Colorado, a gress, 2nd Session, and other pertinent re- prospectus for which is attached to, and in- DESIGN: UNITED STATES COURTHOUSE ANNEX, ports, to determine whether modifications of cluded in, this resolution. WASHINGTON, DC the recommendations contained therein are Provided, That any design shall, to the Resolved by the Committee on Transportation advisable at the present time in the interest maximum extent possible, incorporate and Infrastructure of the U.S. House of Rep- of flood control, navigation, wetland con- shared or collegial space, consistent with ef- resentatives, That pursuant to section 7 of the H6720 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 3, 1997 Public Buildings Act of 1959, (40 U.S.C. § 606), eral building to house the National Labora- headquarters building or buildings, the Ad- appropriations are authorized in the amount tory Center and a Fire Investigation Re- ministrator is authorized to enter into an of $5,703,000 for the design of a 351,500 gross search and Education facility for the Bureau operating lease not to exceed 20 years, and square foot United States courthouse annex, of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms; plus 113 renewal options, plus options to purchase, including 250 inside parking spaces, in Wash- surface parking spaces at a site in suburban for approximately 1,100,000 net usable square ington, D.C., a prospectus for which is at- Maryland, for a combined authority of feet of space (1,350,000 rentable square feet), tached to, and included in, this resolution. $55,866,000, a prospectus for which is attached plus 145 official parking spaces, at an esti- Provided, That any design shall, to the to, and included in, this resolution. mated annual cost of $57,375,000, plus esca- maximum extent possible, incorporate lations. shared or collegial space, consistent with ef- CONSTRUCTION: UNITED STATES SECRET ficient court operations that will minimize SERVICE, BELTSVILLE, MARYLAND f the size and cost of the building to be con- Resolved by the Committee on Transportation structed. and Infrastructure of the U.S. House of Rep- COMMUNICATION FROM CHAIRMAN Provided further, That any design shall in- resentatives, That pursuant to section 7 of the OF COMMITTEE ON STANDARDS corporate changes to the 1994 and 1997 U.S. Public Buildings Act of 1959, (40 U.S.C. § 606), OF OFFICIAL CONDUCT Courts Design Guide including the implemen- appropriations are authorized for design at a tation of a policy on shared facilities for sen- cost of $645,000, management and inspection The SPEAKER laid before the House ior judges. at a cost of $821,000, and construction at an the following communication from the estimated cost of $6,734,000, for a 45,979 gross Honorable JAMES V. HANSEN, chairman SITE ACQUISITION AMENDMENT: UNITED STATES square foot classroom building for the Unit- of the Committee on Standards of Offi- COURTHOUSE, ORLANDO, FLORIDA ed States Secret Service, plus 265 surface cial Conduct: parking spaces, at the United States Secret Resolved by the Committee on Transportation HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, COM- Service Training Center in Beltsville, Mary- and Infrastructure of the U.S. House of Rep- MITTEE ON STANDARDS OF OFFI- land, for a combined authority of $8,200,000, a resentatives, That pursuant to Section 7 of CIAL CONDUCT, prospectus for which is attached to, and in- the Public Buildings Act of 1959, (40 U.S.C. Washington, DC, July 31, 1997. § 606), additional appropriations are author- cluded in, this resolution. In addition, That this authority may be Hon. NEWT GINGRICH, ized in the amount of $748,000 for the acquisi- Speaker, House of Representatives, tion of a site of approximately 3 acres for the combined with the authority provided in the Committee Resolution dated May 9, 1996, au- Washington, DC. construction of 235,050 gross square foot DEAR MR. SPEAKER: This is to formally no- United States courthouse plus 35 inside and thorizing $2,400,000 for the construction of a 16,700 gross square foot administrative build- tify you, pursuant to Rule L of the Rules of 200 surface parking spaces to be located di- the House of Representatives, that the Com- rectly across from the existing Federal ing for the United States Secret Service, plus 50 surface parking spaces, at the United mittee on Standards of Official Conduct has Building and United States courthouse in Or- been served with a subpoena (for documents) lando, Florida. This resolution amends the States Secret Service Training Center in Beltsville, Maryland. issued by the U.S. District Court for the Dis- Committee resolution dated May 17, 1994, trict of Massachusetts and directed to the which authorized size acquisition at a cost of COMMITTEE RESOLUTION: UNITED STATES ‘‘Keeper of the Records.’’ $7,724,000. DISTRICT COURT, FORT LAUDERDALE, FLORIDA After consulting with the Office of General Counsel, the Committee will make the deter- REPAIR AND ALTERATION AMENDMENT: INTER- Resolved by the Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure of the U.S. House of Rep- minations required by Rule L. STATE COMMERCE COMMISSION—UNITED Sincerely, STATES CUSTOMS, WASHINGTON, DC resentatives, That pursuant to Section 11(b) of the Public Buildings Act of 1959 (40 U.S.C. JAMES V. HANSEN, Resolved by the Committee on Transportation § 610), the Administrator of General Services Chairman. and Infrastructure of the U.S. House of Rep- shall investigate the feasibility and need to That pursuant to Section 7 of f resentatives, construct or acquire an annex facility for the the Public Buildings Act of 1959, (40 U.S.C. United States District Court for Southern COMMUNICATION FROM THE HON- § 606), additional appropriations in the Florida, in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. The amount of $3,722,000 are authorized for the analysis shall include a full and complete ORABLE JOHN D. DINGELL, MEM- repair and alteration of the 1,200,000 gross evaluation including, but not limited to: (i) BER OF CONGRESS square foot Interstate Commerce Commis- the identification and cost of potential sites sion-United States Customs connecting The SPEAKER laid before the House and (ii) 30 year present value evaluations of the following communication from the wing, with 28 inside parking spaces, in Wash- all options; including lease, purchase, and ington, D.C. This resolution amends the Federal construction, and the purchase op- Honorable JOHN D. DINGELL, Member of Committee resolution of November 16, 1995, tions of lease with an option to purchase or Congress: which authorized repair and alteration at a purchase contract. The Administrator shall HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, total estimated cost of $138,512,000. submit a report to Congress within 120 days. Washington, DC, August 6, 1997. Hon. NEWT GINGRICH, COMMITTEE RESOLUTION: UNITED STATES COMMITTEE RESOLUTION: SITE, DESIGN AND Speaker, House of Representatives, DISTRICT COURT, ERIE, PENNSYLVANIA CONSTRUCTION: DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPOR- Washington, DC. Resolved by the Committee on Transportation TATION HEADQUARTERS, WASHINGTON, DC DEAR MR. SPEAKER: This is to formally no- and Infrastructure of the U.S. House of Rep- Resolved by the Committee on Transportation tify you, pursuant to Rule L (50) of the Rules resentatives, That pursuant to Section 11(b) of and Infrastructure of the U.S. House of Rep- of the House of Representatives, that I have the Public Buildings Act of 1959, (40 U.S.C. resentatives, That pursuant to Section 7 of received a subpoena (for documents and tes- § 610), the Administrator of General Services the Public Buildings Act of 1959, (40 U.S.C. timony) issued by the U.S. District Court for shall investigate the feasibility and need to § 606), appropriations are authorized for the the Central District of California in the mat- construct or acquire a facility to house the construction of a headquarters building (or ter of Oxycal Laboratories, Inc., et al. v. Pat- United States District Court for Western buildings) for the Department of Transpor- rick, et al., No. SA CV–96–1119 AHS (EEx). The Pennsylvania, in Erie, Pennsylvania. The tation of approximately 1,100,000 net usable subpoena was directed to ‘‘The Office of Con- analysis shall include a full and complete square feet (1,350,000 rentable square feet) of gressman John D. Dingell.’’ evaluation including, but not limited to: (i) space plus 145 official parking spaces at an After consultation with the Office of Gen- the identification and cost of potential sites estimated design cost of $14,105,000, an esti- eral Counsel, I have determined that the sub- and (ii) 30 year present value evaluations of mated management and inspection cost of poena appears not to be consistent with the all options; including lease, purchase, and $10,541,000 and an estimated construction rights and privileges of the House and, there- Federal construction, and the purchase op- cost of $269,778,000, as set forth in a report fore, should be resisted. tions of lease with an option to purchase or pursuant to Section 11(b) of the Public Build- Sincerely, purchase contract. The Administrator shall ings Act of 1959, which is attached to and in- JOHN D. DINGELL. submit a report to Congress within 120 days. cluded in this resolution. The Administrator f may use the South East Federal Center as CONSTRUCTION: BUREAU OF ALCOHOL, TOBACCO, the site for this headquarters, or may ex- AND FIREARMS, SUBURBAN MARYLAND change land at the South East Federal Cen- COMMUNICATION FROM CHAIRMAN Resolved by the Committee on Transportation ter, or other Federally owned property, for OF COMMITTEE ON TRANSPOR- and Infrastructure of the U.S. House of Rep- suitable land for the site or sites in the TATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE resentatives, That pursuant to section 7 of the central employment area of the District of The SPEAKER laid before the House Public Buildings Act of 1959, (40 U.S.C. § 606), Columbia, under authority of Section 3 and the following communication from the appropriations are authorized for manage- Section 5 of the Public Buildings Act of 1959 ment and inspection at a cost of $3,330,000, (40 U.S.C. §§ 602 and 604). Honorable BUD SHUSTER, chairman of and construction at an estimated cost of Provided, That in the event that Federal the Committee on Transportation and $52,536,000, for a 207,821 gross square foot Fed- funding is not available for construction of a Infrastructure: September 3, 1997 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6721 COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION AND following communication from the Mr. LAMPSON. Mr. Speaker, I would INFRASTRUCTURE, HOUSE OF REP- Clerk of the House of Representatives: like to share with my colleagues how I RESENTATIVES, OFFICE OF THE CLERK, spent part of my August recess. I spent Washington, DC, August 7, 1997. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, several days searching in the woods of Hon. NEWT GINGRICH, Washington, DC, August 12, 1997. Speaker, House of Representatives, Galveston County, TX, looking for a Hon.NEWT GINGRICH, Washington, DC. young woman who was abducted. Sev- Speaker, House of Representatives, DEAR MR. SPEAKER: This is to formally no- enteen-year-old Jessica Lee Cain was tify you pursuant to Rule L (50) of the Rules Washington, DC. driving home from a party in the early of the House that the Committee on Trans- DEAR MR. SPEAKER: Pursuant to section 2702(a)(1)(B)(vi) of Public Law 101–509, I here- morning hours on Sunday, August 16. portation and Infrastructure has been served She never made it home, though her with a subpoena (for documents) issued by by appoint as a member of the Advisory the U.S. District Court for the District of Committee on the Records of Congress the truck was found by the side of the road Massachusetts and directed to the ‘‘Keeper following person: Mr. Roger Davidson, 3510 with her wallet still sitting on the of Records.’’ Edmunds Street, N.W., Washington, D.C. front seat. After consulting with the Office of General 20007. Well, Jessica is still missing. Last Counsel, the Committee will make the deter- With warm regards, week, she would have begun her studies mination required by Rule L. ROBIN H. CARLE, Clerk. at Sam Houston State College, just a Sincerely, f few days after her 18th birthday. We BUD SHUSTER, Chairman. b 1215 pray that whoever is responsible for her disappearance will return Jessica f HONORING AND REMEMBERING unharmed. PRINCESS DIANA COMMUNICATION FROM THE CHIEF Mr. Speaker, I founded the Missing ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER OF (Mr. GINGRICH asked and was given and Exploited Children’s Caucus this THE HOUSE permission to address the House for 1 past spring when 12-year-old Laura The SPEAKER laid before the House minute and to revise and extend his re- Smither, also from my district, was the following communication from the marks.) found abducted and found murdered. Chief Administrative Officer of the Mr. GINGRICH. Mr. Speaker, I rise to That we could have two such tragedies House of Representatives: share with the House, that on Thurs- in the same area within months is be- OFFICE OF THE CHIEF ADMINISTRA- day, the House will be voting on a reso- yond comprehension. However, on be- TIVE OFFICER, HOUSE OF REP- lution honoring and remembering Prin- half of the Smither and Cain families, RESENTATIVES, cess Diana. I think every Member of we must work harder to protect our Washington, DC, August 8, 1997. the House joins literally millions of precious children. Hon. NEWT GINGRICH, people across the planet in grief for the I ask my colleagues to pray for Jes- Speaker, House of Representatives, Princess, for her family, for the others sica and the Cain family and to join me Washington, DC. who were killed in the accident and DEAR MR. SPEAKER: This is to formally no- in the Missing and Exploited Children’s tify you pursuant to Rule L (50) of the Rules their families, and for the unnecessary Caucus. There is much work to be of the House that the Office of the Chief Ad- tragedy that ended her life. done. ministrative Officer (‘‘CAO’’) has been served She had been a leader, not only in with a subpoena (for documents) issued by charming everyone who met her, but in f the U.S. District Court for the District of working on key charitable causes, Massachusetts and directed to the ‘‘Keeper working on helping those with AIDS, of Records.’’ THE TIME FOR TALK IS OVER ON After consulting with the Office of the working on banning land mines, work- EDUCATION REFORM AND BET- General Counsel, the CAO will make the de- ing with the Red Cross, working with TER SCHOOLS terminations required by Rule L. the homeless, and working on breast Sincerely, cancer. (Mr. HEFLEY asked and was given JAY EAGEN, I think across the world people have permission to address the House for 1 Chief Administrative Officer. been drawn together in a sense of grief minute.) f and sadness at this absolutely unneces- Mr. HEFLEY. Mr. Speaker, politi- cians love to make a lot of noise about COMMUNICATION FROM THE HON- sary tragedy, and the House tomorrow education reform and better schools. ORABLE LYNN N. RIVERS, MEM- will extend formally by resolution the Ever since the report, ‘‘A Nation At BER OF CONGRESS feelings of the American people as rep- resented by this body to her family and Risk,’’ came out in 1983, calls for edu- The SPEAKER laid before the House to the people of Britain. cation reform have been part of every the following communication from the f politician’s repertoire, but nothing Honorable LYNN N. RIVERS, Member of seems to change, and parents with chil- Congress: ANNOUNCEMENT OF INTENTION TO dren in bad schools have the impres- HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, OFFER A MOTION TO INSTRUCT sion that reformers are more interested August 18, 1997. CONFEREES ON H.R. 1119, NA- in rearranging the deck chairs than Hon. NEWT GINGRICH, TIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZA- they are about serious changes. Speaker, House of Representatives, TION ACT FOR FISCAL YEAR 1998 Washington, DC. Mr. Speaker, that is about to change. DEAR SPEAKER GINGRICH: This is to for- Mr. TRAFICANT. Mr. Speaker, pur- That is because more and more parents mally notify you pursuant to Rule L (50) of suant to the provisions of rule XXVIII, are insisting on real changes in the the Rules of the House that I have been clause 1(c), I am announcing that to- educational opportunities available to served with a subpoena issued by the Third morrow I will offer a motion to in- their children. Judicial Circuit Court of the State of Michi- Two ideas that will not go away are gan in the case of Marcus Management, Inc. v. struct the House conferees on the bill, Robert Marquess, et al., Case No. 97–715508 CK. H.R. 1119, to insist upon the provisions school choice and education savings ac- After consultation with the Office of the of section 1032 of the House bill relat- counts. They will not go away because General Counsel, I have determined that the ing to the assignment of Department of both ideas are as American as apple subpoena relates to my official duties, and Defense personnel to border patrol and pie, freedom to choose and savings for that compliance with the subpoena is con- control. the children’s future, and because it is sistent with the privileges and precedents of awfully hard to argue with the results. the House. f Sincerely, With Milwaukee and Cleveland leading JOIN THE MISSING AND EX- the way, school choice is the wave of LYNN N. RIVERS. PLOITED CHILDREN’S CAUCUS— f the future, and education savings ac- THERE IS MUCH WORK TO BE counts will become part of that move- COMMUNICATION FROM THE DONE ment for greater educational opportu- CLERK OF THE HOUSE (Mr. LAMPSON asked and was given nities. The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. permission to address the House for 1 The time for talk is over; now is the SNOWBARGER) laid before the House the minute.) time for real change. H6722 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 3, 1997 HOUSE NEEDS TO CONDUCT HEAR- for 1 minute and to revise and extend Pat International Airport on Guam. INGS TO EXAMINE ELEMENTS OF his remarks.) The jet carried 254 people, with 227 hav- PROPOSED TOBACCO SETTLE- Mr. TRAFICANT. Mr. Speaker, on ing perished. MENT the advice of their accountant, the I rise today to express the condo- (Mr. PALLONE asked and was given Barrons of New Hampshire took an lences of the people of Guam to the vic- permission to address the House for 1 $80,000 investment loss. Years later, the tims’ families. We share their pain minute.) IRS came in, they said no, and they hit most intimately not because the crash Mr. PALLONE. Mr. Speaker, Con- the Barrons with a $330,000 tag in pen- occurred on Guam, but also because gress should not rubber stamp the re- alties and interest; $330,000, unbeliev- the people on that plane were not en- cently proposed tobacco settlement able. The pressure was so great Bruce tirely strangers. Amongst the dead, that benefits the tobacco industry Barron killed himself. After the death, eight were returning Guam residents of more than the public. As I understand the IRS took the home, took every- Korean decent. Amongst the survivors, it, the settlement will give tobacco thing they had. there were four returning home. companies immunity from liability, Beam me up, Mr. Speaker. I would also like to draw this body’s enable companies to prevent disclosure Under a new law, Mrs. Barron is attention not only to the grieving fam- of potentially revealing documents, suing the IRS, and I say, right on. I ilies, but also to the men and women provide a financial windfall for com- hope the IRS gets their assets kicked who spent countless hours in search pany executives through increased all the way up to their gestapo tactics. and rescue efforts as well as family as- stock options, restrict future Food and The IRS, after all, has deserved it; the sisting actions. The NTSB’s efficient Drug Administration regulation, and IRS has earned it. investigation of the airline’s crash is not adequately accomplish the goal of Think about it, Congress, and I yield exemplary. However, a tragedy of this reducing teenage smoking. back all the rest of that IRS loan magnitude leaves many questions un- Mr. Speaker, today my Senator from sharking and ripoffs of interest and answered. I strongly urge a public New Jersey, Senator LAUTENBERG, penalties. hearing on the crash of KAL 801 to be launched a campaign to gain access to f held on Guam. tobacco industry documents that could f remain under wraps if the agreement OPPOSE H.R. 1270, THE NUCLEAR gains the approval of Congress. I sup- WASTE POLICY ACT URGING CORRECTION OF FEDERAL port that effort, and I think the House (Mr. GIBBONS asked and was given JUDGE’S DECISION REGARDING also should support that effort. permission to address the House for 1 FORESTS IN EAST TEXAS Much work needs to be done, and I minute and to revise and extend his re- (Mr. BRADY asked and was given think that Congress, and particularly marks.) permission to address the House for 1 the House, needs to move forward with Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, while minute and to revise and extend his re- hearings to further examine the ele- Members of this House were in their marks.) ments of this tobacco settlement. As it districts during the August recess, ABC Mr. BRADY. Mr. Speaker, during the stands now, the settlement is a winner News reported to a national television district work period this August, my for the tobacco industry and a loser for audience just what I have been saying wife and I spent a few days among the our children. Let us work to change in this very well for the past 8 months, beautiful forests in our national parks, that outcome. that despite numerous scientific evi- but I am deeply disturbed by a deci- f dence to the contrary, the Federal Gov- sion, another out test decision by a SUPPORT SCHOOL CHOICE AND ernment is going to find Yucca Moun- Federal judge in Beaumont, who de- EDUCATION SAVINGS ACCOUNTS tain, NV, as a suitable site for nuclear creed because he disagreed with how waste storage. our Forest Service is managing parts of (Mr. JONES asked and was given per- The news report highlighted that de- the lands in Texas, he called and or- mission to address the House for 1 spite problems with fragile rock forma- dered an injunction, halted all logging minute.) tion, migrating groundwater, volca- among our east Texas forests. Mr. JONES. Mr. Speaker, education noes, and active earthquakes, Federal This action, irresponsible and damag- funding has been on the rise for years, agencies always find a way to ignore ing, not only causes the Federal Gov- but we have not seen improvement in them first by lowering the standards ernment to fault on our contracts to our public schools. SAT scores are and then by lowering the safety stand- small businesses, it has stopped our down, and dissatisfaction is growing ards to the site suitability. More than small businesses in Texas affiliated among teachers, parents, and students. $3 billion has already been spent on Still we just keep throwing money at a with lumber and timber. It is hurting broken wheel. It is time to fix the Yucca Mountain, and the site has been the counties, 12 east Texas counties. wheel and stop putting taxpayers’ dol- found to be scientifically unsuitable. They rely upon that $4 million to help lars in a bottomless pit. Later this year, Congress will con- balance their budget every year. And, Two reform measures, school choice sider a bill that proposes we spend bil- in fact, it is an impediment to those of and education savings accounts, can lions more of taxpayer dollars to fund us who seek a balance among our envi- help get America’s education system another study that will tell Washing- ronmental assets, who seek to have a back on track. These ideas give parents ton bureaucrats just what they want to forest and parks and lands in our coun- the freedom to choose the best schools hear. This is not just a Nevada issue; try that is properly managed. It is a for their children’s education and to this is an issue of safety for all Ameri- disturbing action by a Federal judge save for their children’s future. School cans. I urge my colleagues to get the and one we ought to take action to cor- choice and education savings accounts true facts and oppose the H.R. 1270. rect. are the reforms we need to finally f f begin to fix education in America. KOREAN AIR FLIGHT 801 TRAGEDY THE FAMOUS AVOIDANCE GAME Mr. Speaker, these ideas are the free- (Mr. UNDERWOOD asked and was ON CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM market solution to a very serious prob- IS NO LONGER ACCEPTABLE lem. These solutions are right for par- given permission to address the House ents and children throughout our Na- for 1 minute and to revise and extend (Mr. MILLER of California asked and tion. For the sake of education in his remarks.) was given permission to address the America, I urge my colleagues to sup- Mr. UNDERWOOD. Mr. Speaker, House for 1 minute and to revise and port school choice and education sav- while the rest of the Nation has turned extend his remarks.) ings accounts. its attention to other matters, we on Mr. MILLER of California. Mr. f Guam are still reeling from the worst Speaker, I believe there is no more im- air disaster of our island’s history. On portant issue for this Congress to ad- RIGHT ON, MRS. BARRON August 6, 1997, a Korean Air 747 en dress in the waning hours than the (Mr. TRAFICANT asked and was route from Seoul crashed into a hill 3 need to reform our corrupt campaign given permission to address the House miles short of the runway of the Won finance laws. September 3, 1997 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6723

As my colleagues will recall, many of Ms. DELAURO. Mr. Speaker, in the CLOSE SOFT MONEY LOOPHOLE us have called upon Speaker GINGRICH first half of 1996, the tobacco industry (Ms. HOOLEY of Oregon asked and to schedule a vote this month on legis- donated over $1 million to the Repub- was given permission to address the lation to ban the large, unregulated fi- lican Party. Last month Speaker GING- House for 1 minute and to revise and nancial contributions to political par- RICH and his Republican colleagues re- extend his remarks.) ties known as soft money. These con- turned the favor. Republican Members Ms. HOOLEY of Oregon. Mr. Speaker, tributions of $25,000, $100,000, and even snuck into the balanced budget bill a I was disappointed to read in Tuesday’s $1 million from a single individual rep- $50 billion credit provision for tobacco Congress Daily the top Republican law- resenting some particular special in- companies, my friends, not a bad re- makers were not going to make passing terest have helped to ruin our electoral turn on their $1 million donation. campaign finance reform a priority and legislative process. Despite our re- Yesterday’s Wall Street Journal re- this session. peated requests for a vote and despite ported from the Campaign for Tobacco- It is time to recognize there are no the Speaker’s own pledge of support, Free Kids that 83 percent of the Mem- more legitimate excuses why this body there has been no vote scheduled on a bers from the other body took tobacco has not acted on this issue. The Amer- soft money ban or any other campaign money last year, and they voted ican people want it, the political proc- finance reform. against increasing funding to crack ess needs it, and we have a good legis- My colleagues and our Speaker down on illegal sales of tobacco to mi- lative vehicle to make it happen, should be aware that we are prepared nors. thanks to a recently introduced bill by to use all our means at our disposal to It is no wonder the American people a bipartisan freshman task force. force a vote this month. No more busi- have lost faith in their political sys- Our Bipartisan Campaign Integrity ness as usual, Mr. Speaker. The famous tem. It is time for Congress to ban soft Act would take an important first step avoidance game on this issue is no money contributions to political par- toward reforming the political process longer acceptable. Our ability to hon- ties and restore some integrity to our by banning soft money contributions. estly represent our constituents de- campaign finance system. Soft money contributions allow indi- pends on our success and reforming the Democrats are asking Speaker GING- viduals, corporations, and other orga- campaign finance laws. RICH to schedule a vote this month to nizations to give unlimited amounts of Already there is talk of adjourning ban soft money. The American people money to influence Federal elections. the Congress as soon as possible to should not have to wait any longer. It is time to close the soft money avoid addressing this issue. Mr. Speak- We need to take this important first loophole and pass meaningful cam- er, that is unacceptable. We will not step. Let us take the influence out of paign finance reform. accept such a cowardice position and the hands of the wealthy and the spe- f the protectionism of special interests. cial interests. We need to return politi- f cal power in this Nation to where it TIME TO GET SERIOUS ABOUT BANNING SOFT MONEY LEGISLATION TO ENSURE NO rightly belongs, in the hands of average (Mr. MCGOVERN asked and was GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWNS working Americans. given permission to address the House f (Mr. GEKAS asked and was given for 1 minute and to revise and extend permission to address the House for 1 his remarks.) minute and to revise and extend his re- BRING ABOUT CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM NOW Mr. MCGOVERN. Mr. Speaker, before marks.) Congress departed for the August re- Mr. GEKAS. Mr. Speaker, very short- (Mr. MCDERMOTT asked and was cess, I joined with 25 of my House col- ly now, September 30, the fiscal year, given permission to address the House leagues in writing to Speaker GINGRICH the current fiscal year, will end. For a for 1 minute and to revise and extend demanding a vote this month on ban- decade now, I have been proposing leg- his remarks.) ning soft money contributions to polit- islation that when such an event oc- Mr. MCDERMOTT. Mr. Speaker, ical parties. In our letter, we warned curs, and it has occurred too often when I think of the unexplained delay that failure to schedule such a vote without new appropriations taking in considering campaign finance re- would cause us to use every tool at our their place, a new budget in place, a form, I am forced to ask myself the disposal to force consideration of this Government shutdown is in the fore- same question over and over again: all-important campaign finance re- seeable future. Why is it taking so long to do what we form. The legislation that I have proposed promised the American people in 1996? Mr. Speaker, it does not take a rock- would end that phenomenon by saying It is obvious that the American peo- et scientist to figure out that our cur- when at the end of the fiscal year no ple want campaign finance reform. The rent campaign finance system is bro- budget has been put in place, then last President and the Speaker shook hands ken and needs to be fixed. Every day year’s appropriations will automati- over 2 years ago committing them- the newspapers are filled with stories cally go into effect until a new budget selves to reforming the system and, ac- detailing how unregulated soft money takes effect. cording to the rhetoric in Congress, contributions have corrupted our polit- We have had the Congress of the many of my colleagues want the same ical system and are threatening to un- United States just a few months ago thing. Yet, no campaign finance reform dermine the very essence of our democ- pass such legislation only to be vetoed legislation is on the agenda, and many racy. by the President. It is now time to say, news reports indicate that after the Clearly, we need real, comprehensive ‘‘I told you so; we’re facing another consideration of the remaining appro- campaign finance reform, and we need Government shutdown.’’ priation acts, as early as October 11, it now, but Speaker Gingrich has re- The chairman of the House Commit- the House will adjourn for the year. fused to give us a day to vote even on tee on Appropriations will do all in his Roll Call says it will be the fastest ses- this most basic of reforms. power, I am sure, to prevent such an sion since 1965. Mr. Speaker, give us a vote on real event, but my legislation would pro- I think we still have time to consider campaign finance reform, or at least vide insurance that no Government this important issue. What we need is give us a vote to ban soft money. It is shutdown would occur. the commitment of the Republican the right thing to do; it is what the f leadership of the House. We can no American people want. b 1230 longer tolerate the rhetoric without f action on this issue. RETURN POLITICAL POWER The Speaker has left us no choice: We LIVE BY LAWS PRESENTLY ON WHERE IT BELONGS have declared September Ban Soft THE BOOKS (Ms. DELAURO asked and was given Money Month, and we will do every- (Mr. LIVINGSTON asked and was permission to address the House for 1 thing in our power to raise this issue given permission to address the House minute and to revise and extend her re- on the floor. We must do it before the for 1 minute and to revise and extend marks.) 1998 election. his remarks.) H6724 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 3, 1997

Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Speaker, I the lack of decent housing, we cannot Messrs: PACKARD, PORTER, HOBSON, hear this call for campaign finance re- get them to reenlist in the services. WICKER, KINGSTON, PARKER, TIAHRT, form. We can pass all the laws in the These young men and women are WAMP, LIVINGSTON, HEFNER, OLVER, ED- world, but if some people are not going sent to the far corners of the world, but WARDS, DICKS, HOYER, and OBEY. to live by the laws on the books, what we cannot provide proper care and a There was no objection. point is it to change the law? proper place for them to live. Whether f Now, it was not the Republicans that it is a base near your district or in APPOINTMENT OF CONFEREES ON invited people into the White House at Korea or Germany, these people de- H.R. 2158, DEPARTMENTS OF VET- $50,000 a pop for the Lincoln Bedroom. serve adequate housing. ERANS AFFAIRS AND HOUSING It was not Republicans who dealt with My motion, Mr. Speaker, provides AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT, AND arms merchants, foreign agents, and specific direction to the conferees to INDEPENDENT AGENCIES APPRO- narcotics dealers, and had their pic- make certain that in resolving the dif- PRIATIONS ACT, 1998. tures taken for massive amounts of ferences between the House and the money. All of those things are against other body, a high priority is given to Mr. LEWIS of California. Mr. Speak- the law. It was not Republicans that the quality of life of the men and er, I ask unanimous consent to take made phone calls out of the White women serving us in the military. from the Speaker’s table the bill (H.R. House, against the advice of the coun- Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of 2158) making appropriations for the De- sel to the White House. my time. partments of Veterans Affairs and And yet they say they want to GENERAL LEAVE Housing and Urban Development, and change the law. For what purpose? It is Mr. PACKARD. Mr. Speaker, I ask for sundry independent agencies, com- time they obeyed the law on the books. unanimous consent that all Members missions, corporations, and offices for f may have 5 legislative days within the fiscal year ending September 30, which to revise and extend their re- 1998, and other purposes, with Senate APPOINTMENT OF CONFEREES ON marks on H.R. 2016, and that I may in- amendments thereto, disagree to the H.R. 2016, MILITARY CONSTRUC- clude tabular and extraneous mate- Senate amendments and agree to the TION APPROPRIATIONS ACT, 1998 rials. conference asked by the Senate. Mr. PACKARD. Mr. Speaker, I ask The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there unanimous consent to take from the objection to the request of the gen- objection to the request of the gen- Speaker’s table the bill (H.R. 2016) tleman from California? tleman from California? There was no objection. making appropriations for military There was no objection. construction, family housing, and base Mr. PACKARD. Mr. Speaker, I yield MOTION TO INSTRUCT OFFERED BY MR. STOKES realignment and closure for the De- myself such time as I may consume. Mr. STOKES. Mr. Speaker, I offer a partment of Defense for the fiscal year Mr. Speaker, on the motion to in- motion to instruct. ending September 30, 1998, and for struct, I wholeheartedly agree with the The Clerk read as follows: other purposes, with Senate amend- gentleman from North Carolina [Mr. Mr. STOKES moves that the managers on ments thereto, disagree to the Senate the part of the House be instructed to insist HEFNER]. We have made a very, very on the position of the House regarding the amendments, and agree to the con- significant step forward in the House total funding level provided for the Environ- ference asked by the Senate. bill to emphasize quality-of-life issues, mental Protection Agency’s ‘Hazardous Sub- The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there housing, barracks, day care centers, stance Superfund’ account. objection to the request of the gen- hospitals, dental centers, and a variety The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gen- tleman from California? of other areas to make life more pleas- tleman from Ohio [Mr. STOKES] will be There was no objection. ant and agreeable for our men and recognized for 30 minutes and the gen- MOTION TO INSTRUCT OFFERED BY MR. HEFNER women in the services. So we have tleman from California [Mr. LEWIS] Mr. HEFNER. Mr. Speaker, I offer a built our bill, the House bill, around will be recognized for 30 minutes. motion. these basic concepts of emphasizing The Chair recognizes the gentleman The Clerk read as follows: quality of life. from Ohio [Mr. STOKES]. Mr. HEFNER moves that the managers on This motion to instruct simply re- Mr. STOKES. Mr. Speaker, I yield the part of the House at the conference on states what we agreed to do in our myself such time as I may consume. the disagreeing votes of the two Houses on committee as we wrote and marked up Mr. Speaker, nearly one person in the bill, H.R. 2016, be instructed to insist on our bill to this point. I deeply appre- four in this country lives close to a the House position with respect to funding ciate the efforts of the gentleman from Superfund site. We know all too well for Family Housing, Dormitories and Bar- North Carolina [Mr. HEFNER] to con- what the result of that fact is: too racks for military personnel serving world- tinue to emphasize these quality-of-life many reported cases of cancer and wide. principles as we go to conference. I other diseases caused by breathing, The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gen- hope the Senate will agree with our eating, and drinking too many hazard- tleman from North Carolina [Mr. HEF- concepts of what is important. ous contaminants. NER] will be recognized for 30 minutes, Mr. Speaker, I wholeheartedly agree This motion is pretty simple. If you and the gentleman from California [Mr. with the motion to instruct and rec- want to be on record for doing as much PACKARD] will be recognized for 30 min- ommend that it pass. as possible to clean up Superfund sites utes. Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance around the country and reduce the The Chair recognizes the gentleman of my time. amounts of hazardous pollutants to from North Carolina [Mr. HEFNER]. Mr. HEFNER. Mr. Speaker, I yield which your constituents are exposed, Mr. HEFNER. Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time. you vote for this motion. myself such time as I may consume. The SPEAKER pro tempore. Without Supporting this motion does not bust Mr. Speaker, when the House passed objection, the previous question is or- the budget. Although the budget reso- the military construction bill, it in- dered on the motion to instruct. lution assumed funding for the cluded funding for many important There was no objection. Superfund program at the enhanced projects for family housing, barracks, The SPEAKER pro tempore. The level of $2.1 billion, the level called for and dormitories. By a vote of 395 to 134, question is on the motion to instruct by the administration as part of the so- we agreed to place a high priority on offered by the gentleman from North called Kalamazoo initiative, the House the quality of life of our men and Carolina [Mr. HEFNER]. level is still $600 million below that. women in the military and their fami- The motion to instruct was agreed The total Superfund spending in the lies as they serve us around the world. to. House-passed bill is $1.5 billion, com- The other body, however, does not A motion to reconsider was laid on pared with $1.4 billion in the Senate. seem to feel as we do; $145 million was the table. The House amount is definitely supe- cut for family housing and $65 million The SPEAKER pro tempore. Without rior to the Senate’s recommendation in was cut from barracks. We give them objection, the Chair appoints the fol- several ways: The House version pro- the best training in the world, but with lowing conferees: vides $28 million, or 14 percent more, September 3, 1997 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6725 for Superfund enhancement activities, APPOINTMENT OF CONFEREES ON The motion was agreed to. $5 million more for research activities, H.R. 2169, DEPARTMENT OF The SPEAKER pro tempore. Without and $12 million more for the Agency for TRANSPORTATION AND RELATED objection, the Chair appoints the fol- Toxic Substances and Disease Registry. AGENCIES APPROPRIATIONS lowing conferees: Messrs. WOLF, DELAY, Mr. Speaker, much criticism has ACT, 1997 REGULA, ROGERS, PACKARD, CALLAHAN, been lodged against the operation of Mr. WOLF. Mr. Speaker, I ask unani- TIAHRT, ADERHOLT, LIVINGSTON, SABO, the Superfund program since its incep- mous consent to take from the Speak- FOGLIETTA, TORRES, OLVER, PASTOR, tion. I think most Members would er’s table the bill (H.R. 2169) making and OBEY. agree that reforms are needed. How- appropriations for the Department of There was no objection. ever, until the authorization commit- Transportation and related agencies f tees are able to reach agreement on for the fiscal year ending September 30, what these reforms should be, we APPOINTMENT OF CONFEREES ON 1998, and for other purposes, with Sen- H.R. 2203, ENERGY AND WATER should still be trying to do all we can ate amendments thereto, disagree to to get Superfund sites cleaned up. DEVELOPMENT APPROPRIATIONS the Senate amendments, and agree to ACT, 1998 This administration has made good the conference asked by the Senate. progress in getting Superfund appro- The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there Mr. MCDADE. Mr. Speaker, I ask priations spent on actual cleanup and objection to the request of the gen- unanimous consent to take from the not on litigation and administrative tleman from Virginia? Speaker’s table the bill (H.R. 2203) costs. There was no objection. making appropriations for energy and water development for the fiscal year I strongly urge an ‘‘aye’’ vote to keep MOTION TO INSTRUCT CONFEREES OFFERED BY Superfund moneys flowing at as high a MR. SABO ending September 30, 1998 and for other level as possible to clean up as many Mr. SABO. Mr. Speaker, I offer a mo- purposes, with a Senate amendment sites as quickly as we can. tion to instruct. thereto, disagree to the Senate amend- Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of The Clerk read as follows: ment, and agree to the conference asked by the Senate. my time. Mr. SABO moves that in resolving the dif- ferences between the House and Senate, the The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there objection to the request of the gen- b 1245 managers on the part of the House at the conference on the disagreeing votes of the tleman from Pennsylvania? Mr. LEWIS of California. Mr. Speak- two Houses on the bill, H.R. 2169, be in- There was no objection. er, I yield myself such time as I may structed to insist on the House position with MOTION TO INSTRUCT CONFEREES OFFERED BY consume. respect to providing $200 million for operat- MR. FAZIO OF CALIFORNIA Mr. Speaker, I certainly am not ing assistance under the transit formula grants program. Mr. FAZIO of California. Mr. Speak- going to object to this suggestion by er, I offer a motion to instruct. my colleague. By way of commentary, The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gen- The Clerk read as follows: tleman from Minnesota [Mr. SABO] will however, I must say that it was at Mr. FAZIO of California moves that in re- least 15 years ago as a member of this be recognized for 30 minutes, and the solving the differences between House and committee I traveled to the northern gentleman from Virginia [Mr. WOLF] Senate, the managers on the part of the part of the State of New York, and dur- will be recognized for 30 minutes. House at the conference on the disagreeing ing that trip I visited a place called The Chair recognizes the gentleman votes of the two Houses on the bill, H.R. 2203, Love Canal. At that point in time we from Minnesota [Mr. SABO]. be instructed to recede to the Senate on knew that the Superfund program had Mr. SABO. Mr. Speaker, I yield my- funding levels provided for nonproliferation self such time as I may consume. and arms control programs under the De- many a problem. The new Adminis- partment of Energy. trator indicated to us that this was a Mr. Speaker, I will be brief. This mo- The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gen- program and project that was very, tion simply instructs the conferees to tleman from California [Mr. FAZIO] will very important but which was broken. insist on the $200 million included in be recognized for 30 minutes, and the I certainly do hope that between now the House bill for transit operating as- gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. and the time we go to conference that sistance. MCDADE] will be recognized for 30 min- my colleague will join with me one In my judgment, we have cut operat- utes. more time in asking the administra- ing assistance too much already over The Chair recognizes the gentleman tion for their suggestion as to how we the years. Unfortunately, the Senate from California [Mr. FAZIO]. fix this program, for she has been talk- has no funding for operating assist- Mr. FAZIO of California. Mr. Speak- ing about it publicly a lot, but I have ance, and this motion simply insists er, I yield myself such time as I may seen no recommendation. that the conferees stay with the deci- sion adopted by the House. consume. Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of Mr. Speaker, my reason for offering of my time. my time. this motion to instruct conferees is Mr. STOKES. Mr. Speaker, I yield Mr. WOLF. Mr. Speaker, I yield my- simply that I believe the House would back the balance of my time. self such time as I may consume. be advised to support the Senate fig- The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Mr. Speaker, I share the gentleman’s ures on nuclear nonproliferation so we SNOWBARGER). Without objection, the concern with regard to the operating do no damage to our efforts to verify previous question is ordered on the mo- assistance, and wish it could be higher, nuclear testing. The research and de- tion to instruct. but I think that $200 million is cer- velopment account, which is very im- There was no objection. tainly the bottom we should go. I think portant to the Department, shows that The SPEAKER pro tempore. The it is a good motion, and we certainly we have taken a $20 million reduction question is on the motion to instruct accept it. I commend the gentleman for in excess of what the Senate provided offered by the gentleman from Ohio offering it. in this area. It seems to me these are [Mr. STOKES]. Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance very important funds to meet estab- The motion was agreed to. of my time. lished milestones for the demonstra- The SPEAKER pro tempore. Without Mr. SABO. Mr. Speaker, I yield back tion and delivery of state-of-the-art nu- objection, the Chair appoints the fol- the balance of my time. clear detection technologies. lowing conferees: Messrs. LEWIS of The SPEAKER pro tempore. Without In addition, the legislation that the California, DELAY, WALSH, HOBSON, objection, the previous question is or- House passed could well be determined KNOLLENBERG, FRELINGHUYSEN, NEU- dered on the motion to instruct. to be inadequate in terms of funding MANN, WICKER, LIVINGSTON, STOKES, There was no objection. the Department’s threat assessment MOLLOHAN, Ms. KAPTUR, Mrs. MEEK of The SPEAKER pro tempore. The program, which is a core program Florida, Mr. PRICE of North Carolina, question is on the motion to instruct which provides for our Government’s and Mr. OBEY. offered by the gentleman from Min- full capability to assess nuclear-related There was no objection. nesota [Mr. SABO]. domestic threats. H6726 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 3, 1997 It also provides a central traffic FOREIGN OPERATIONS, EXPORT work period. At that time, I said that point for DOE’s nuclear agency and FINANCING, AND RELATED PRO- the gentleman from Alabama had re- critical message traffic from overseas GRAMS APPROPRIATIONS ACT, solved many of the contentious issues. embassies. It would be, I think, some- 1998 One area of agreement that I have with thing that all Members of this House The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- the gentleman on the bill, of course, is could join together on. We are not anx- ant to the order of the House of Thurs- the funding level. I hope to work on ious to restrict our capabilities to day, July 27, 1997, and rule XXIII, the that in conference. But, again, in terms monitor potential proliferation of nu- Chair declares the House in the Com- of the issue-by-issue consideration of clear activities in countries, particu- mittee of the Whole House on the State the bill, I think a great deal was ac- larly in third-world countries, where of the Union for the further consider- complished because of the gentleman’s we think the threat is most likely to ation of the bill, H.R. 2159. openness, accessibility, and spirit of bi- occur. partisanship. b 1302 Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of So, Mr. Chairman, I want to com- my time. IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE mend the gentleman once again for his Mr. MCDADE. Mr. Speaker, I yield Accordingly, the House resolved it- leadership and once again separate myself such time as I may consume. self into the Committee of the Whole from the remarks about, yes, we must (Mr. MCDADE asked and was given House on the State of the Union for the be frugal and prudent in all of our permission to revise and extend his re- further consideration of the bill (H.R. spending, subject all of it to the marks.) 2159) making appropriations for foreign harshest scrutiny, but I support the GENERAL LEAVE operations, export financing, and relat- larger number of the administration, a ed programs for the fiscal year ending Mr. MCDADE. Mr. Speaker, I ask minor disagreement with the gen- September 30, 1998, and for other pur- unanimous consent that all Members tleman from Alabama. poses, with Mr. THORNBERRY in the may have 5 legislative days within Mr. CALLAHAN. Mr. Chairman, re- chair. which to revise and extend their re- claiming my time, I thank the gentle- The Clerk read the title of the bill. woman from California [Ms. PELOSI] for marks on H.R. 2203. The CHAIRMAN. When the Commit- The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there her kind remarks, and it has been a tee of the Whole rose on Wednesday, pleasure working with the gentle- objection to the request of the gen- July 30, 1997, the bill had been read tleman from Pennsylvania? woman in her first year as ranking through page 93, line 15. Democrat on our subcommittee. The There was no objection. Pursuant to the order of the House of gentlewoman has been a pleasure to Mr. MCDADE. Mr. Speaker, my dis- Thursday, July 31, 1997, no other tinguished friend, the gentleman from work with, as has been her entire staff. amendment shall be in order, except Mr. Chairman, it has been a joint ef- California [Mr. FAZIO] and I have dis- pro forma amendments offered for the fort, both Republicans and Democrats cussed this issue. We are, as we so purpose of debate, unless printed in the often are, in accord. I support the mo- joining together, to bring to the floor CONGRESSIONAL RECORD before Friday, what I consider a responsible bill. I tion and I urge its adoption. August 1, 1997. know the gentlewoman is concerned Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance Mr. CALLAHAN. Mr. Chairman, I that it is not sufficient, but neverthe- of my time. move to strike the last word. Mr. FAZIO of California. Mr. Speak- Mr. Chairman, just to bring the less, under the circumstances, I cer- er, I yield back the balance of my time. Members up to date, we are resuming tainly feel that it is. our debate on the Foreign Operations The CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will read. The SPEAKER pro tempore. Without The Clerk read as follows: objection, the previous question is or- bill, H.R. 2159. Just to refresh Mem- dered on the motion to instruct. bers’ memories, this bill was well under ASSISTANCE TO TURKEY There was no objection. the allocation that was given to the SEC. 571. (a) Not more than $40,000,000 of subcommittee. In fact, it is some the funds appropriated in this Act under the The SPEAKER pro tempore. The heading ‘‘Economic Support Fund’’ may be question is on the motion to instruct $87,000 under last year’s appropriation made available for Turkey. offered by the gentleman from Califor- and nearly $4.5 billion less than the (b) Of the funds made available under the nia [Mr. FAZIO]. Senate bill and the President’s request. heading ‘‘Economic Support Fund’’ for Tur- The motion was agreed to. So once again, as we continue this key, not less than fifty percent of these debate, we would like for our col- funds shall be made available for the purpose b 1300 leagues to keep in mind that final pas- of supporting private nongovernmental orga- The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. sage on this measure will actually nizations engaged in strengthening demo- mean another reduction in foreign aid, cratic institutions in Turkey, providing eco- SNOWBARGER). Without objection, the nomic assistance for individuals and commu- Chair appoints the following conferees: and I think it is very important that nities affected by civil unrest, and support- Messrs. MCDADE, ROGERS, KNOLLEN- Members of the House understand this. ing and promoting peaceful solutions and BERG, FRELINGHUYSEN, PARKER, CAL- Once again, the American people are economic development which will contribute LAHAN, DICKEY, LIVINGSTON, FAZIO of requesting that we be frugal in our ef- to the settlement of regional problems in California, VISCLOSKY, EDWARDS, PAS- forts to assist the President and the ex- Turkey. TOR, and OBEY. ecutive branch in their efforts to have AMENDMENT NO. 76 OFFERED BY MR. CAMPBELL There was no objection. an effective foreign policy. But under Mr. CAMPBELL. Mr. Chairman, I the circumstances, the committee felt, offer an amendment. f and I feel, that the reduction is in The Clerk read as follows: GENERAL LEAVE order. So with that, Mr. Chairman, I Amendment No. 76 offered by Mr. CAMP- will continue the effort. BELL: Mr. CALLAHAN. Mr. Speaker, I ask Ms. PELOSI. Mr. Chairman, will the At the end of the bill, insert after the last unanimous consent that all Members gentleman yield? section (preceding the short title) the follow- may have 5 legislative days within Mr. CALLAHAN. I yield to the gen- ing new section: which to revise and extend their re- tlewoman from California, the ranking SEC. 572. The amounts otherwise provided marks on the bill, H.R. 2159, making Democrat on the subcommittee. by this Act are revised by reducing the appropriations for foreign operations, Ms. PELOSI. Mr. Chairman, once amount made available for ‘‘ECONOMIC SUP- PORT FUND’’, and increasing the amount export financing and related programs again, I, too, want to remind our col- made available for ‘‘CONTRIBUTION TO THE AF- for the fiscal year ending September 30, leagues of the great leadership of the RICAN DEVELOPMENT FUND’’ (as authorized by 1998, and for other purposes, and that I gentleman from Alabama [Mr. CAL- Section 526(c) Public Law 103–306; 108 Stat. may include tabular and extraneous LAHAN] in bringing this bipartisan leg- 1632), by $25,000,000. materials. islation to the floor. This is a difficult Mr. CAMPBELL. Mr. Chairman, this The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there bill and there are many contentious amendment would allocate 25 million objection to the request of the gen- areas that are covered in it. additional dollars to the African Devel- tleman from Alabama? We began the debate, as Members opment Fund. The amendment is reve- There was no objection. may recall, before the August district nue neutral, budget neutral, and is September 3, 1997 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6727 scored by CBO as neutral on all rel- sources to this very important area. policy of teaching someone to fish, evant points for budgetary purposes. It The only issue now is the amount. rather than giving them a fish. takes the $25 million that we would Mr. Chairman, here is why that addi- Interestingly enough, as the world like to give to the African Develop- tional $25 million is so important. mourns one of the most dynamic am- ment Fund from the Economic Support Presently, the Senate bill, the other bassadors that committed herself to Fund. body’s bill, has zero. The President has the idea of helping those less fortunate, The Economic Support Fund is the requested $50 million. The committee’s Princess Diana, who visited Africa on generic fund that is one of the largest bill requests $25 million. several occasions and was not fearful of components of this bill and is already If we can go to conference with a full working with the heads of State, but as funded at $57 million above the fiscal $50 million, I would be very hopeful and well as the people of those nations in year 1997 enacted level. prayerful that we could actually get helping them to pull themselves up by So, there is no question that this $50 million, which is what the Presi- their bootstraps, that we would come money would not add to the size of the dent has requested. It certainly puts us today to be able to support legislation bill, the cost of the bill, or the size of in a better bargaining position than if that adds $25 million to the African De- the burden on the U.S. taxpayers from we go to the conference with $25 mil- velopment fund. the deficit. lion, which is in the bill. Mr. Chairman, this does not cause for Why is it necessary to dedicate $25 Several Members of the European any increase in spending in this par- million more into the African Develop- Community have announced that their ticular bill, but helps to raise the fund- ment Fund? The United States invest- willingness to assist will be conditional ing to a level of $50 million; a request ment of time, compassion, and dollars upon the United States putting forward made by the President and one that we have not met at this time. in Africa, in my view, brings the great- its commitment. Because whereas we It is extremely important to recog- est return from the point of view of our have committed to assist with the Afri- nize what the African Development national interests, our sense of com- can Development Fund, we have, in Fund stands for. It makes loans on passion, and what we can do for people fact, not contributed for the last 2 market-based terms to creditworthy who are most in need. years, when we said we would. The borrowers. The people who live in sub-Saharan amount that is already overdue is $132 Africa have the lowest life expectancy million. b 1315 of any people on Earth. Americans on Mr. Chairman, I am not asking for That is, while the AFDF lends to the average live 48 percent longer, almost that today. I am asking for the addi- poorest members on highly half a lifetime longer than the average tional $25 million so that we can make concessional terms, that means that person living in sub-Saharan Africa. a good down payment on getting this what happens is those poorest nations, International relief organizations fund started again and thereby engage those poorest individuals, those poor- characterize sub-Saharan Africa as our European allies in this most wor- est nongovernmental agencies are able having one half of its population living thy project. to receive money that will help lift in absolute poverty. Mr. Chairman, I urge my colleagues them and their constituents up by the What does the African Development out of compassion to care for those bootstraps. Fund do? Well, in combination with the who are the most needy in the world, The interesting thing that we should African Development Bank, it assists please to support this amendment. I note is that in fact this money does go those individuals, entrepreneurs, small am proud to say that it is supported by to the poorest nations in sub-Saharan businesses, who are able and interested many colleagues, including the gentle- Africa. The African Development Bank in helping themselves to create the woman from Texas [Ms. JACKSON-LEE], concentrates its loans on smaller conditions for economic growth from the gentleman from New Jersey [Mr. projects than the International Devel- which the alleviation of poverty will PAYNE], and the gentlewoman from opment Association, the concessional come in a permanent way. California [Ms. WATERS]. lending arm of the World Bank, in Mr. Chairman, it is not a handout. It Mr. Chairman, I conclude by saying areas such as microenterprise, primary is an assist in becoming economically for those concerned about our friends education, preventative health care, self-sufficient so that some day when in the Middle East, that AIPAC has al- agriculture and basic infrastructure. In fact, as I visited South Africa just we speak of these issues again on the lowed me to say they do not oppose a few months ago, I was delighted to House floor, we will not be referring to this amendment. see some of the very examples of what a life expectancy so short and infant Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas. Mr. the African Development Fund is en- mortality rate so high and absence of Chairman, I move to strike the last gaged in, complementing those partici- inoculation for childhood diseases that word. pants in ideas and programs of which is so sadly widespread. (Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas asked they initiated, which they were the The United States has in the past and was given permission to revise and idea persons for, and which they were funded the African Development Bank extend her remarks.) able to draw from the very basis of and the African Development Fund. Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas. Mr. their soul and see the success that was The African Development Bank offers Chairman, I rise, first of all, to thank brought about by these matching assistance for the more creditworthy the gentleman from Alabama [Mr. funds. borrowers. That is an important area, CALLAHAN], chairman of this fine sub- The AFDF account is funded at 25 but it is not the subject of this amend- committee, for his effort and his work, million, half of what the President re- ment. including his work with me over the quested. Interestingly enough, the ESF The African Development Fund offers years on many issues dealing with account is as a full 57 million above fis- assistance for the poorest of the poor. human rights, particularly in Africa. cal year 1997 enacted levels, which is It offers loans on concessional bases. In I also thank the gentlewoman from good, but yet this does not answer the the past, the United States has had California [Ms. PELOSI] for her forth- question when we find that countries some concern about the management right and open presentation and com- like sub-Saharan Africa or in sub-Saha- of the African Development Fund and, mitment on human rights and issues ran Africa, India, and Latin America for that reason, has not been putting dealing with foreign affairs in this receive the lowest United States for- any money into this for several of the world. I am proud to be associated with eign aid per capita of any recipients in last years. However, the Subcommittee both of these fine colleagues. the world. This is particularly striking on Foreign Operations, Export Financ- Mr. Chairman, the effort of the gen- because these regions have the lowest ing and Related Programs, the Com- tleman from California [Mr. CAMPBELL] GNP per capita in the world and the mittee on International Relations, the today is one that I proudly support, lowest life expectancy on earth. Sub- State Department, AID, have all been and I join the gentleman from New Jer- Saharan Africans die younger than studying the progress made by the Af- sey [Mr. PAYNE] and the gentlewoman anyone else by a huge margin. rican Development Fund and have from California [Ms. WATERS] to be I believe that there have been great come to the conclusion that it is appro- able to stand today for what I think is strides in AFDF, particularly, as has priate to recommit United States re- a vital change and recognition in the been noted by this committee, that the H6728 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 3, 1997 new management of the African Devel- fund came to me early on and re- ture, health care, helping in education, opment Bank and Fund have made quested our assistance, and out of def- has to be an investment for the 21st great strides in restructuring the erence to them, we did include the $25 century. whole infrastructure of the organiza- million to reestablish the fund. But to With all due respect to the chair- tion so that they have drawn con- come at this moment and to say, let us man’s opposition, I might say that fidence in the way that they handle the double what the committee, I think Egypt and Israel and Jordan would be dollars that they were given. very prudently and wisely has given, in protected. These additional moneys Additionally, I think it is important my opinion, does great harm to our would be appropriately invested and we that the moneys, such as the ESF bill. would get a return on our foreign af- funds, that they will not impact Israel So it does impact Israel. It does im- fairs dollars that we could be very or Egypt. This shows a true combined pact Egypt. It denies Jordan the full proud of in helping sub-Saharan Africa. effort in those seeking to help sub-Sa- funding that the administration has re- Mr. UPTON. Mr. Chairman, I move to haran Africa to provide a grass-roots quested because it subtracts from a strike the requisite number of words, initiative, to enhance those grass-roots very, very small residue that remains and I yield to the gentleman from Cali- organizations who can show themselves after we give the moneys to Israel and fornia [Mr. CAMPBELL]. proud and be able to draw in others Egypt. So I would respectfully request Mr. CAMPBELL. Mr. Chairman, I who would draw with them and work that the committee consider what we thank my good friend from Michigan on infrastructure and education and did in the Appropriations Committee. I for his kindness. Please, let us focus for a moment on health needs. This is the kind of money would like for the proponents of this this question. AIPAC, the American-Is- that the United States can be most amendment to recognize that we came raeli Public Affairs Committee, has in- proud of rendering. a giant step forward in trying to be of formed me they do not oppose this I believe that this Congress would do assistance to them. I would like to also amendment. It took goodwill on all well to support this increase because remind the proponents of this measure sides and that is the position. It is not this is worth 1,000 times what it is in that we included another $50 million in correct to say that this amendment actual dollars. This is worth people re- the Child Survival Fund which will in- would jeopardize the U.S. interest or alizing that I can do something. This is deed help the needy people in the coun- the interests of our friends in the Mid- worth people understanding that I do try of Africa. dle East. not have to ask for fish because I can I respectfully request that the Mem- I would like, with my friend’s permis- learn to fish. bers vote against this amendment be- sion, to call on the chairman of the Ap- So, Mr. Chairman, I would simply say cause it just disrupts many portions of propriations Subcommittee, if he that I rise to support this funding our bill and at the same time sends an would be kind enough to engage me in amendment and would ask my col- indication that we are going to give a a colloquy right now, if the chairman leagues to join enthusiastically to help fund who just 2 years ago was deemed of the subcommittee would be kind sub-Saharan Africa stand on its own unacceptable by this Congress, that in- enough to engage me in a colloquy. feet. deed we are going to fully fund it at $50 With all respect and recognizing that Mr. CALLAHAN. Mr. Chairman, I million instead of the $25 million. we differ on this amendment, it is im- rise in opposition to the amendment, Mr. SKAGGS. Mr. Chairman, I move perative that I lay out that there is no and I move to strike the requisite num- to strike the requisite number of opposition from the American-Israeli ber of words. words, and I yield to the gentlewoman Public Affairs Committee to this Mr. Chairman, this amendment I am from Texas [Ms. JACKSON-LEE]. amendment. sure is well-intended, but it ignores the Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas. Mr. May I kindly ask if the gentleman history of the institution that they are Chairman, I certainly appreciate the has any information to the contrary. trying to help. Just to refresh the chairman and, as I said, his hard work Mr. CALLAHAN. Mr. Chairman, will Members’ memories as to the history on this issue. I think it is important to the gentleman yield? of the African Development Fund, just at least understand my commitment Mr. UPTON. I yield to the gentleman 2 years ago this Congress rescinded the and my thrust behind supporting this from Alabama. $60 million included in the bill for the increase. Mr. CALLAHAN. Mr. Chairman, no, African Development Fund because it Frankly, this $25 million increase and I would not expect that they would was unneeded. There was no objection provides the appropriation that was re- be involved in any appropriation we whatsoever 2 years ago. quested by the President of the United make to any other country for any Now, under new management, we feel States. Under the President’s discre- other purpose. It is not the role of like the fund is back on its feet, that tion, it is clear that Egypt and Israel AIPAC to be that involved. they indeed are moving in a progres- and Jordan, I might add, would not My point is that we have a very lim- sive manner by which to help the very have to be impacted and the advocacy ited amount in the economic support people that the proponents of this bill groups for Israel have conceded and fund over and above what we tradition- wish to help. So we as a committee did feel very comfortable that this would ally have given to Israel and Egypt. If insert $25 million to reestablish our be the right direction to go. It is worth we allow the appropriation to Egypt confirmation that they are moving in noting that this is a full $57 million and to Israel, then indeed it jeopardizes the correct direction. And now for an above the fiscal year 1997 enacted level, the possibility of Jordan getting the amendment to come to the floor in- but I think the argument is strongest $100 million they have requested and creasing the $25 to $50 million plays by noting how poor sub-Saharan Africa the administration supports. havoc with the entire bill. is and how low its GNP is and how it is, Mr. CAMPBELL. Mr. Chairman, if The gentlewoman from Texas men- in the world’s economy, the poorest, al- the gentleman will continue to yield, tioned that this does not impact Israel most the poorest area, along with India an additional question, if I am labor- nor Egypt, but she is wrong because it and other parts of Latin America. ing, it is only at pains to make it clear does impact Israel and Egypt because if This infusion of capital under a that the gentleman is expressing his we deplete the funds which are very newly managed African Development understanding and not that of anyone limited in the economic support fund, Bank would clearly be the right direc- else, but his own understanding of the we are going to deny the administra- tion that this Nation should take in its impact. tion the opportunity to assist Jordan. new policies, or at least its stated poli- Mr. CALLAHAN. Mr. Chairman, if And if Jordan is not assisted, then Is- cies of making sure that foreign affairs the gentleman will continue to yield, I rael and Egypt both will suffer. So it dollars have a return; that is, foreign wrote the bill, and we know how much indeed does impact the Middle East, affairs dollars are appropriately in- money is in the economic support fund. and I take issue with her indication vested so that we get the full return. Mr. CAMPBELL. Mr. Chairman, I that it does not impact either Israel or Investing in sub-Saharan Africa by giv- have one additional question, if I may. Egypt. ing to these nongovernmental agencies, If the amendment to be offered later The Senate, we understand, has noth- these agencies that deal with the poor- regarding funds for Cambodia is adopt- ing in the bill. The proponents of this est of the poor, helping in infrastruc- ed, it is my understanding that will September 3, 1997 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6729 free up $37 million presently allocated Fund. This amendment is budget neutral and ducted our hearings in an outstand- to Cambodia in the ESF account. will provide the much needed support to the ingly fair and rational manner. It is Mr. CALLAHAN. Let me correct the development of stable democracies on the not easy to disagree with him on any gentleman there. There is nothing ear- continent of Africa. subject, and there are not many that I marked in this bill. We do not earmark It is important as we grapple with how best disagree with him upon and I am sure money for Israel. We do not earmark to assist the former republics of the Soviet that he and I do not disagree upon the money for Egypt or Cambodia or any Union to also provide assistance for the sus- purpose of our amendment. place else. There is nothing earmarked tained development of Africa. Croatia’s role during the Holocaust in the bill. We give to the administra- The African Development Fund is the larg- was a most despicable one. The tion a designated amount of money for est source of capital for the 39 poorest coun- Ustashe, Croatia’s soldiers, were Hit- the economic support fund. If the ad- tries, outside of the World Bank. It is the larg- ler’s shock troops to exterminate the ministration wants to give this money est co-financing partner for IDA in Africa, and Jews, with whom they came in contact to the African Development Fund, they in 1997, the fund will lend 4 times more assist- in Croatia. Literally hundreds of Jews have that prerogative. ance than USAID. were killed and their remains were bur- Mr. CAMPBELL. Mr. Chairman, if This amendment would reduce the Eco- ied in the cemetery at Jasenvoc in Cro- the gentleman will continue to yield, nomic Support Fund by $25 million in order to atia. Now the government has indi- my last question, is it not the gentle- provide the level of support that Africa needs cated that it will bury Ustashe killers man’s understanding and that of his in critical areas of agriculture, primary health with their victims in the cemetery at committee that the total amount care, basic education and economic reform. Jasenvoc. would include money adequate to spend The help offered by United States tax- Why is this such an important issue? for Cambodia? I completely grant no payersÐnot to dictatorships, but to non- Elie Weisel has put it very well, and I earmark and, hence, if today we re- governmental organizations like CARE and quote. ‘‘Such an act,’’ he says, ‘‘will strict the amount of money that is multilateral financial institutions under sound kill the victims twice. The first time going to Cambodia, that amount of management like the African Development was when they were murdered. The sec- money which was anticipated in the FundÐwill go farther in sub-Saharan Africa ond time was when we murder their gentleman’s total amount for ESF than anywhere else on Earth. memory.’’ That is exactly what the would be available to go to the Africa As a supporter of this amendment I am in- Government of Croatia would do in the Development Fund without jeopardiz- terested in helping the poorest people in the event that it undertook to bury the ing any other recipients? world. Ustashe in the cemetery with its vic- Mr. CALLAHAN. Mr. Chairman, if I urge my colleagues to join me in support tims. the administration were to desire to do of this important amendment. The victims and their killers in death that, since there are no earmarks, we The CHAIRMAN. The question is on would be used to eradicate the crimes do not earmark money for Cambodia, the amendment offered by the gen- that were committed during World War we do not earmark money for anybody. tleman from California [Mr. CAMP- II. All that we have to receive from the Mr. CAMPBELL. Mr. Chairman, I am BELL]. Government of Croatia is the absolute most grateful to the gentleman. And to The question was taken; and the assurance that the Ustashe will not be the gentleman from Michigan, deep chairman announced that the noes ap- buried with their victims in this ceme- thanks for allowing me the chance to peared to have it. tery. As I indicated, we have asked for rebut. Mr. CAMPBELL. Mr. Chairman, I de- such assurances from President Let me conclude, the clarity is appar- mand a recorded vote, and pending Tudjman and we have not received ent that we are not jeopardizing any of that, I make the point of order that a them. All that we have received is a the U.S. objectives in the Middle East, quorum is not present. statement as vague as we do not plan that the total amount of ESF funds is The CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to the to bury them together at this time. more than enough to fund this very order of the House of Thursday, July That is today, Mr. Chairman. Tomor- small amount of $25 million, that it 24, 1997, further proceedings on the row they may decide to do so. will be even more so if the amendment amendment offered by the gentleman The amendment that I offer will hold to restrict spending in Cambodia is from California [Mr. CAMPBELL] will be up payments to the Government of adopted at $37 million. postponed. Croatia until such time as it gives our Mr. HASTINGS of Florida. Mr. Chairman, I The point of no quorum is considered Government the assurances that the rise today to express my support for the withdrawn. Ustashe will not be buried in that cem- Campbell amendment to increase the United b 1330 etery. I urge support for my amend- States contribution to the Africa Development ment. AMENDMENT NO. 51 OFFERED BY MR. YATES Fund [ADF] from $25 to $50 million. POINT OF ORDER With the exception of the World Bank the Mr. YATES. Mr. Chairman, I offer an Mr. CALLAHAN. Mr. Chairman, I ADF is the largest source of capital for 39 of amendment. rise to reserve a point of order. Africa's poorest countries. The fund, support- The Clerk read as follows: The CHAIRMAN. The Chair notes ing largely the agricultural, health care, edu- Amendment No. 51 offered by Mr. YATES: that the gentleman from Alabama was cation and economic reform sectors, reaches At the end of the bill, insert the following on his feet seeking recognition when the poorest levels of society by supporting after the last section (preceding the short the gentleman from Illinois embarked title): macro-economic development, thereby staving upon debate. The Chair did not inter- off natural and man-made disasters. LIMITATION OF ASSISTANCE TO THE rupt the debate from the gentleman GOVERNMENT OF CROATIA The ADF has undergone necessary and sig- from Illinois. nificant internal reforms to make the organiza- SEC. 572. None of the funds appropriated or Without objection the gentleman will otherwise made available by title II of this tions more efficient. Staff has been reduced by Act may be made available to the Govern- state his point of order. 30 percent the net income has increased by ment of Croatia if that government relocates Mr. CALLAHAN. My point of order I $150 million, and procurement reforms have the remains of Croatian Ustashe soldiers, think can be resolved, Mr. Chairman, increased transparency and decreased who participated during the Holocaust in the and indeed the gentleman I think is abuses. mass murder of Jews, Serbs, and Gypsies, at going to ask for unanimous consent to The ADF is a success story. Please support the site of the World War II concentration amend his amendment. The original this vital organization by passing the Campbell camp at Jasenovac, Croatia. amendment that was introduced I Amendment. Thank you. Mr. YATES. Mr. Chairman, there is think would create a point of order, Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas. Mr. Chair- no Member of the House for whom I but it is my understanding the gen- man, I am pleased to join my colleagues in have higher regard and greater respect tleman from Illinois has an amend- the sponsorship of this important amendment than the chairman of the subcommit- ment that he is going to request unani- to H.R. 2159, the foreign operations appropria- tee and for the gentlewoman from Cali- mous consent to submit. tions bill before the House today. fornia [Ms. PELOSI], the ranking mem- Mr. YATES. The gentleman is cor- This amendment would appropriate an addi- ber. The gentleman from Alabama [Mr. rect. I concede the gentleman’s point of tional $25 million to the African Development CALLAHAN], our chairman, has con- order, Mr. Chairman. H6730 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 3, 1997 AMENDMENT NO. 51, AS MODIFIED, OFFERED BY United States or less developed countries aid to any foreign country and they are MR. YATES would result in the more efficient use of going to purchase some commodity, Mr. YATES. Mr. Chairman, I ask United States foreign assistance resources. then they ought to give preference to unanimous consent to offer an amend- Mr. TRAFICANT (during the read- U.S. firms. That is the purpose of it. ed version of the amendment I offered. ing). Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous My reserving the point of order was The CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will re- consent that the amendment be consid- simply to give me the opportunity to port the modification. ered as read and printed in the RECORD. read the gentleman’s language which, The Clerk read as follows: The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection as he and I discussed, was one-sen- Amendment No. 51, as modified, offered by to the request of the gentleman from tence, buy American language. This Mr. YATES: Ohio? one is a little bit more complex. I am At the end of the bill, insert the following There was no objection. willing to withdraw my point of order after the last section (preceding the short Mr. CALLAHAN. Mr. Chairman, I re- but must advise the gentleman that we title): serve a point of order. may have to work on the language that LIMITATION ON ASSISTANCE TO THE The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman has been drafted in conference, but at GOVERNMENT OF CROATIA from Alabama reserves a point of order the same time to preserve the meaning SEC. 572. None of the funds appropriated or on the amendment. of the gentleman’s amendment. We do otherwise made available by title II of this Mr. TRAFICANT. Mr. Chairman, this insist that these countries that receive Act may be made available to the Govern- was placed in the legislation the last ment of Croatia to relocate the remains of American aid ought to be, without us Croatian Ustashe soldiers, at the site of the several years. The essence of this is making it into law, buying American World War II concentration camp at just simple, common sense. I was under goods, anyway. As a matter of fact, it Jasenovac, Croatia. the impression that we had an agree- is already in the bill; the sense of the The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection ment worked out with the appropri- Congress is already in the bill. It says to the modification of the amendment? ators on it. It basically says that we it is the sense of the Congress that to Without objection, the modification give money to these foreign countries the greatest extent practicable, all is agreed to and the point of order re- basically to help them in the form of equipment and products purchased served by the gentleman from Alabama aid, and they do make purchases with with funds made available in this act is withdrawn. this American money that our tax- should be American made. There was no objection. payers work hard to send here to Wash- I have not had time to thoroughly Mr. YATES. Mr. Chairman, I have ington. The amendment says that, analyze the page-long amendment that spoken in connection with my previous ‘‘Look, we give you that money. If you the gentleman has presented and thus amendment. The statement that I produce a product in your country and the reason I had voiced some concern. made on the previous amendment I you need some farm equipment and you Mr. TRAFICANT. Mr. Chairman, be- now ask unanimous consent to be made have farm equipment, go ahead and fore I yield to the distinguished rank- available for this amendment. buy from your own people. But when ing member, let me say this. That I thank the gentleman from Alabama you do not produce a product and you sense of the Congress speaks to some [Mr. CALLAHAN] and the gentlewoman have to go outside your country to basic intent, but it does not really do from California [Ms. PELOSI] for their make a purchase and you’re using that which should be done after all cooperation. American taxpayer dollars,’’ this these years of foreign aid. I have a The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection amendment says to purchase items number of other amendments that I to the request of the gentleman from made in America unless they would be feel very strong about, but I have Illinois? so prohibitively costly it would negate talked with the gentleman about au- There was no objection. the purpose of our foreign aid to this thorizing and appropriating and I am The CHAIRMAN. The question is on country in the first place. pulling back all of those. But I have the amendment offered by the gen- The appropriators allowed the one sincere effort here in the Congress, tleman from Illinois [Mr. YATES], as amendment the last time it was of- I really do, and that is this type of lan- modified. fered. I thought we had an agreement guage. I would be willing to have the The amendment, as modified, was on it. I believe that it is absolute mad- gentleman work on this language. This agreed to. ness that we continue to write checks makes certain specifications that go a AMENDMENT NO. 33 OFFERED BY MR. TRAFICANT and give money away and then they little bit beyond that sense of the Con- Mr. TRAFICANT. Mr. Chairman, I take our money and buy products from gress, but I would urge the gentleman, offer an amendment. other countries. It makes no sense. We knowing his record, in lieu of that, to The Clerk read as follows: talk about authorizing, but we have accept this language in general and to not had a reasonable authorization bill tailor where he may need it but leave Amendment No. 33 offered by Mr. that spoke to any merit or substance TRAFICANT: it to the point where it is more than At the end of the bill, insert after the last at all, and this is a limitation on the that sense of Congress. section (preceding the short title) the follow- use of American taxpayer dollars when I appreciate his having inserted that ing new section: these countries buy a product that through my efforts over the years, but LIMITATION ON PROCUREMENT OUTSIDE THE they do not make themselves. this I think takes us into some policy UNITED STATES This is eminent common sense. This that appropriators should be taking on SEC. 572. Funds appropriated or otherwise is reasonable appropriation policy, it is a reasonable limitation in the use of made available by this Act may be used for a reasonable appropriation measure, our taxpayers’ dollars on these expend- procurement outside the United States or and I would ask the distinguished gen- itures. less developed countries only if— tleman from Alabama, the chairman of Mr. CALLAHAN. If the gentleman (1) such funds are used for the procurement the subcommittee, if this amendment will further yield, the appropriate of commodities or services, or defense arti- has been approved several times. place for this language would be in cles or defense services, produced in the Mr. CALLAHAN. Mr. Chairman, will country in which the assistance is to be pro- some authorization bill, not in an ap- vided, except that this paragraph only ap- the gentleman yield? propriation bill and thus my argument. plies if procurement in that country would Mr. TRAFICANT. I yield to the gen- I or anyone on my committee that I cost less than procurement in the United tleman from Alabama. am aware of has any objection to the States or less developed countries; Mr. CALLAHAN. This amendment destination he is trying to reach. We (2) the provision of such assistance re- has been approved several times. In all agree with him. Thus, we insert in quires commodities or services, or defense fact, the gentleman from Ohio and I our bill language that was a sense of articles or defense services, of a type that have talked about this amendment. I the Congress. But as I have said, we are are not produced in, and available for pur- am not sure that we talked about the chase from, the United States, less developed going to have to take a look at the lan- countries, or the country in which the assist- language as it is written, but concep- guage. ance is to be provided; or tually I think that I and the commit- I withdraw my point of order, but (3) the President determines on a case-by- tee agree with the gentleman, that in with the understanding that in con- case basis that procurement outside the every instance where we are providing ference we are going to have to work September 3, 1997 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6731 with the Senate to get language that is a trade provision not reported by the In this respect, the standard of time- more compatible with an appropriation committee of jurisdiction. liness, this point of order is unlike bill rather than an authorization bill. Furthermore, Mr. Chairman, the those arising under clause 2 or 6 of rule The CHAIRMAN. The time of the measure on the floor would preclude XXI. gentleman from Ohio [Mr. TRAFICANT] the President from waiving certain im- Current law authorized the President has expired. port sanctions against Serbia- to waive application of certain sanc- (By unanimous consent, Mr. TRAFI- Montenegro which are imposed pursu- tions to Serbia-Montenegro. Among CANT was allowed to proceed for 2 addi- ant to certain codified Executive or- these sanctions are import prohibitions tional minutes.) ders. The provision imposes a new re- which affect tariff collections. Section Mr. TRAFICANT. Mr. Chairman, I quirement on the President that an Ex- 539 of the bill constrains the authority yield to the gentlewoman from Califor- ecutive order lifting these import sanc- of the President on these matters. It, nia, the distinguished ranking member. tions cannot be issued until the Presi- thereby, carries a tariff measure within Ms. PELOSI. I thank the gentleman dent certifies to the Congress that cer- the meaning of clause 5(b) of rule XXI, for yielding. I support the statement of tain democratic reforms have occurred and the point of order is sustained, and our chairman about the clarification of in Kosova. This change of authority section 539 is stricken from the bill. the language in conference but support over import restrictions falls within AMENDMENT NO. 32 OFFERED BY MR. PAUL the spirit of the amendment that is put the jurisdiction of the Committee on Mr. PAUL. Mr. Chairman, I offer an forth by the gentleman from Ohio [Mr. Ways and Means and clearly con- amendment. TRAFICANT] and once again call to the stitutes a tariff measure for purposes The Clerk read as follows: attention of our colleagues the refine- of rule XXI 5(b) of the rules of the Amendment No. 32 offered by Mr. PAUL: ment of the amendment, that the bill House. After the last section (preceding the short may be used for procurement outside Therefore, Mr. Chairman, the point title), insert the following: the United States or in less developed of order applies, and I urge the Chair to LIMITATION ON FUNDS FOR ABORTION, FAMILY countries only if such funds are used sustain the point of order. PLANNING, OR POPULATION CONTROL EFFORTS for purchases in the country receiving The CHAIRMAN. Does any Member SEC. 572. (a) None of the funds appropriated assistance and such purchases would wish to be heard on the point of order? or otherwise made available by this Act may cost less than procurement in the Unit- Mr. CALLAHAN. Mr. Chairman, sec- be made available for— ed States or less developed countries, tion 539 of the pending bill would pro- (1) population control or population plan- and if such purchases are not available hibit the termination of sanctions ning programs; in the United States or less developed against Serbia and Montenegro until (2) family planning activities; or countries, and this is the important certain conditions are met. This provi- (3) abortion procedures. point that I think we will work on in sion was included in the fiscal year 1996 Mr. PAUL. Mr. Chairman, the conference, if the President determines Appropriation Act as a result of an amendment is very clear. If the amend- that such purchases would result in a amendment offered by the gentleman ment passes, no funds in this bill could more efficient use of U.S. foreign as- from New York [Mr. ENGEL] on July 11, be used for population control, family sistance resources. The waiver lan- 1995. planning, or abortion procedures. That guage as well I think is a smart ap- As chairman of the subcommittee, I will take in about $385 million that we proach to the gentleman’s leadership oppose the amendment; however, it was could save by passing this amendment. on this issue. made in order under a rule approved by The most important part of this Again, I associate myself with the the House on that very same day by a amendment would be that we would ab- comments of our chairman. vote of 236 to 162, and for the RECORD I solutely assure that none of the fund- Mr. TRAFICANT. Mr. Chairman, I might remind the Members that the ing would ever be used for abortion. appreciate the statement. Just let me chairman of the Committee on Ways One of the ways that the funds get to close by saying this. These authoriza- and Means voted for that rule. abortion, to the use of abortion, is that tion bills sometimes never get an op- I agree with the gentleman that this the funds are granted for birth control, portunity to see the light of day. This provision does not belong in this bill. I and then the funds elsewhere can be limitation is very important. I really would say the same thing about a num- saved, and those other funds can be thank the chairman for withdrawing ber of other provisions. However, lack used for abortion. In other words, it his point of order, and I plan to work of an authorization act for many years can be the funds are fungible. with and lean on and grab ahold of the has resulted in this bill being used for It is claimed that people have a need chairman and see what I can do be- purposes other than the appropriation for birth control, and this may be true, cause he has done a great job. of funds. Since the House has specifi- but we have not been well received cally approved this provision in the around the world. I am not quite sure b 1345 past, I believe that it was my duty to exactly when the U.S. Government and Mr. Chairman, I would appreciate it include it in this appropriation bill. the American taxpayer got involved in if we would keep the spirit and the in- The Committee on Ways and Means the birth control business overseas, but tent in the bill. does not agree and believes this is a we have been doing it now probably for Mr. Chairman, I yield back the bal- violation of the House rule, and the several decades. But there is a lot of re- ance of my time. Parliamentarian agrees, and I will, of sentment toward America imposing Mr. CALLAHAN. Mr. Chairman, I course, defer to them on this matter, our will on other people. withdraw my point of order. and I concede the point of order. For instance, we have sent over the The CHAIRMAN. The question is on The CHAIRMAN. If no other Member use of Norplant, a very controversial the amendment offered by the gen- wishes to be heard on the point of medical procedure. I am a gyne- tleman from Ohio [Mr. TRAFICANT]. order, the gentleman from New York cologist, and I can attest to it. It is The amendment was agreed to. [Mr. HOUGHTON] makes a point of order very controversial, yet it was used on POINT OF ORDER against section 539 of the bill on the hundreds of thousands of women over- Mr. HOUGHTON. Mr. Chairman, I grounds that it carries a tariff measure seas. When that procedure was finally would like to make a point of order in a bill reported by committee, Com- brought to the United States, it was re- against section 539 of the bill found on mittee on Appropriations, not having jected by the American people. page 66, line 15, through page 67, line jurisdiction to report tariff matters in I, as a gynecologist, spent more time 22, on the grounds that it violates 5(b) violation of clause 5(b) of rule XXI. taking these Norplants out than put- of rule XXI of the rules of the House. Under clause 5(b) of rule XXI, this ting them in because of the severe com- The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman will point of order may be raised at any plications with them, but nevertheless state his point of order. time during consideration of the bill we, as taxpayers, have continuously Mr. HOUGHTON. Mr. Chairman, for amendment in the Committee of sent more funding overseas to support clause 5(b) of rule XXI states that it the Whole even after section 539 has these procedures. shall not be in the order of the House been passed in the reading for amend- But there is no moral justification to consider a measure carrying a tax or ment. for us in the U.S. Congress to go and H6732 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 3, 1997 tax poor people in America, to go over What would we think if some foreign addresses. Indeed, I feel like I have and impose our ideas and our beliefs on government came over and decided made a giant and major impact on the other people’s culture, and we have that our inner cities were over- elimination of AID funds for abortion been doing this now for several dec- populated and they wanted to impose anywhere in the world. As a matter of ades, and a lot of resentment has been some population controls and some fact, my bill says that none of the building up. There is no constitutional birth control methods on the inner funds of this bill may be used for an authority for programs like this. There cities? I am sure there would be a abortion, period. is nowhere in the Constitution where strong objection to that. So this is not an abortion issue; this we can find any justification for us im- Ms. PELOSI. Mr. Chairman, I rise in is a family planning issue, because posing our will on other people in this very strong opposition to the amend- some feel like that if they go into a manner. ment, as proposed, by the gentleman country and through educational proc- But worst of all, if funds are used for from Texas [Mr. PAUL]. If enacted, the esses they will eliminate the need for birth control and other funds are saved Paul amendment would cause death abortions, and they well may be right. and then they are used on abortion, it and suffering for millions of women So do not imply to anyone in this is in a way indirectly supporting abor- and children whose lives and well-being body or anyone in this audience watch- tion. depend on the availability of family ing today that the bill that I wrote per- Later on we will vote on another planning and health service supported mits abortion in any fashion because it amendment to curtail the use of funds under USAID’s population assistance absolutely restricts it. Abortions for for abortion, and I will support the program. Over 580,000 women die annu- family planning purposes cannot be amendment of the gentleman from New ally, 1 woman every minute, of causes performed with any of the money any- Jersey [Mr. SMITH] in this regard be- related to pregnancy and childbirth. where in this bill, period, flat no. cause we hope that that would at least Family planning can prevent 25 percent Now when I took this committee over help, but one way where we can assure of all maternal and infant deaths by as chairman several years ago, Mr. and not worry about it would be to pass avoiding unintended pregnancies and Chairman, if I had come to you and this amendment and not send any spacing births. said to you and the proponents of the money over in the first place because it The Paul amendment would close the right to life, said, I am going to cut is not authorized, it is not permissible, most effective avenue to prevent abor- funding for family planning by up to it is not moral, and there is a lot of re- tions. Certainly we all consider abor- half, then I would have been heralded sentment toward us for these very, tion a failure, and if we want to reduce as a hero. very reasons. the number of abortions, we should b 1400 The issue that always comes up is support family planning. that the people need help, but there are The World Health Organization esti- Now I have done that, only to be ad- a lot of voluntary associations in this mates that 40 percent of unintended dressed on the floor as a proponent of country that are willing to help. If we pregnancies end in abortion. That is a abortion, which I am not. feel compelled to help poor nations in tragedy. Family planning enables cou- So I would submit to this Congress their birth control effort, it can be ples to prevent unintended preg- and to the gentleman from Texas, done through voluntary means, not nancies. Large declines in numbers of while I agree with his views with re- through coercion, not taking by force abortions have occurred due to the ex- spect to the right to life, he is abso- money from people who have philo- pansion of family planning services in lutely wrong in his allegation that any sophic and religious and social beliefs many countries across the globe, in- of this money for family planning pur- against these programs that we are im- cluding South Korea, Chile, Hungary, poses can be used for abortion. It does posing on others. Russia, Kazakhstan, Ukraine, Colom- not, it cannot, it will not, and never So this is a program that should be bia, and Mexico. This amendment will as long as I am chairman of this just abolished. It should be stopped. We would end a 30-year program that is committee. should not send any funds over there. recognized as one of the most success- With that, Mr. Chairman, I would op- This argument that we can control the ful components of U.S. foreign assist- pose the gentleman’s amendment, indi- way funds are being spent once they ance. cating to the Members that the restric- are overseas, we are kidding ourselves And this is not about the United tion is already there and that we have when we use that argument. We really States going to another country and cut family planning significantly over lose control of these funds once they forcing anything on anyone. This is a the period of time that I have used. If get into the hands of other govern- voluntary program that the countries you use 1995 figures, we have cut $518 ments or agencies that are dealing asked for. And again, to reference the million from family planning activi- with these problems overseas. remarks of the gentleman from Texas ties. Typically, programs that are run by [Mr. PAUL], we are not later going to be So I think we have done an outstand- governments and international govern- voting on any amendment that will ing job, and I would urge my colleagues ments do not work very well, and these curtail funds for abortion. The discus- to vote against this amendment. programs have done very poorly. At sion in this bill is about curtailing Mr. PAUL. Mr. Chairman, will the the same time, there are poor countries funding for family planning. gentleman yield? around the world that have car loads, More than 50 million couples in the Mr. CALLAHAN. I yield to the gen- millions, of condoms sitting around developing world use family planning tleman from Texas. that are not used. They cannot get sur- as a direct result of this program, and Mr. PAUL. Mr. Chairman, I do not gical gloves to do surgical procedures. the average number of children per want to imply that the gentleman has There are countries reported in Africa family has declined more than one- permitted or endorsed or encouraged or where they do not have penicillin, and third since the 1960’s. Three out of four the bill says directly there are funds yet they have all the birth control pills Americans surveyed in 1995 wanted to here for abortion. I will concede that. that they want. increase or maintain spending on fam- Mr. CALLAHAN. Mr. Chairman, re- So I argue that this program is un- ily planning for poor countries. claiming my time, if the gentleman necessary, unconstitutional, it is an I urge our colleagues to reject over- would answer my question, is there abuse of the rights and beliefs of so whelmingly the ill-advised Paul anything in this bill that leads the gen- many Americans, and it is not well re- amendment and to support inter- tleman to believe that any of this ceived overseas. The best thing we can national family planning. money can be used for abortion any- do is just take the money away from Mr. CALLAHAN. Mr. Chairman, I where in the world? these programs, take the $385 million move to strike the last word. Mr. PAUL. Mr. Chairman, I am ad- and return it to the American tax- Mr. Chairman, while I have every re- dressing the fungibility argument. payers. This would be a far better way spect for the philosophy of the gen- Mr. CALLAHAN. The fungibility and to use this money other than aggravat- tleman from Texas, and I share his the tangibility of what is in this bill, ing, antagonizing people in other coun- views on abortion, I do not think that you cannot use any of this money for tries. is what this debate or this amendment abortions anywhere in the world. If the September 3, 1997 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6733 gentleman would concede to that port the Gilman-Pelosi-Campbell how we are sabotaging our children’s point, I would be happy to yield. Lowey-DeLauro-Slaughter-Greenwood futures, how we slowly but surely chip Mr. PAUL. Mr. Chairman, that is proposal on the floor tomorrow, which away at any prospects for a solid finan- true directly, but indirectly the addresses the fungibility issue very di- cial foundation every time we vote to fungibility argument is very impor- rectly. spend more and more tax dollars on in- tant. If you use funds for other things, First of all, I do not think it needs to appropriate and unconstitutional pro- you say the governments and agencies be addressed. But for those who need grams without any regard to the re- can use them for abortion. So you do it that comfort and clarification, I am ality of our Federal Government’s fi- indirectly. pleased to be a supporter of that nancial situation. Yes, it might be a little harder to amendment. In that amendment it says But there is an even bigger problem comprehend the fungibility argument, that none of the funds would go to or- than one simply associated with dol- but it is there. If we support a country ganizations that do not promote abor- lars. This problem is more fundamental or a government or an agency that tion as a method of family planning to the appropriate role of the Federal does permit and endorse abortion and and that utilize these funds to prevent Government as defined by the Con- they can use these funds for birth con- abortion as a method of family plan- stitution. trol pills, they can use their other ning. It puts these conditions on re- Some might say that many provi- funds to do the abortion. ceiving the funds; also, it says, except sions of this appropriations bill fall So, yes, the gentleman is correct in the case of organizations that do not outside of the guidelines given to us by that directly there are no funds in this promote abortion as a method of fam- the Constitution. Some might say that bill that will provide for abortion. But ily planning. a debate of that nature goes beyond the indirectly it opens up some funds and So there is nothing about fungibility scope of this amendment. makes them available for abortion. here. This is about organizations that I think we should talk about the Con- Mr. CALLAHAN. Mr. Chairman, re- promote family planning and discour- stitution more. I think that every time claiming my time, will the gentleman age the use of abortion for family plan- we consider a bill, an amendment, a admit that we have done a very favor- ning. So fungibility is not a principle motion to instruct conferees, every able job in moving in the same direc- that applies here. time we take any legislative action, we tion the gentleman would like us to But if we are going to use the prin- should remember our oath to uphold move? Would the gentleman not admit ciples of fungibility, we are opening a the Constitution. This means that that since when I took over this com- door for many issues across the board sometimes, even when things sound mittee we have saved $518 million? And in this bill and every other bill that like a great idea or the perfect solution now we have reduced it, we have re- comes along. I do not know that this to a problem facing our constituents duced it to a level of $385 million. I Congress wants to go down that path. back home, or faceless and nameless think we have made significant inroads But I am pleased to say that the individuals suffering thousands of and yet preserved the ability of agen- amendment that will be offered tomor- miles away, we have to show some re- cies to go into a country with limited row as an amendment to the Smith straint, if only because we are not em- educational opportunities to give them amendment will clarify, once and for powered to act outside the legislative advice. all, this is not about fungibility. It is walls erected for us by our Founding Maybe it can be through a church, about family planning, and none of the Fathers. maybe it can be through abstinence money goes to any organization, unless Furthermore, I believe that inter- programs, but I do think education in they are promoting family planning national population control funding is that manner actually denies the prob- and discouraging abortion as a tool for not even a good idea. What concerns ability of abortions even being pre- that. me greatly is that it appears that sented. But if they were presented, Mr. TORRES. Mr. Chairman, re- many of my colleagues have simply ac- none of this money could ever be used claiming my time, I would also go on cepted the assertions of the population under any circumstance for an abor- record opposing the amendment of the control lobby when they constantly tion anywhere in the world for family gentleman from Texas. I want to reit- and unfailingly contend that over- planning purposes. erate, as the gentlewoman from Cali- population is the cause of nearly all of Mr. PAUL. Mr. Chairman, if the gen- fornia has said, that I will support her the world’s human suffering. tleman would yield further, the effi- amendment tomorrow. For decades, we have heard doomsday ciency of the programs are to be ques- Mr. HOSTETTLER. Mr. Chairman, I predictions that the Earth’s population tioned. If you look at the Norplant pro- move to strike the requisite number of is growing so much, to the point that gram, they put this Norplant in hun- words. we will soon be unable to sustain this dreds of thousands of women. It is not Mr. Chairman, I rise today in strong rate of growth. Make no mistake about a good medication. I have personal ex- support of the amendment offered by it and do not be misled. This is not an perience from it. Then they use that as the gentleman from Texas [Mr. PAUL]. overcrowded planet. Too many people an example of the reason to promote it There are so many reasons to support are not the problem. in the United States. this amendment, an amendment whose I would assert, however, that those Mr. TORRES. Mr. Chairman, I move time has come. This amendment will more interested in redistributing to strike the requisite number of eliminate funding for all population wealth and power have everything to words. control activities overseas. We have lose if the myth of an unsustainable Ms. PELOSI. Mr. Chairman, will the spent hour upon hour in this Chamber population explosion is debunked. I gentleman yield? debating the many issues surrounding would further contend that sound pub- Mr. TORRES. I yield to the gentle- foreign aid, which includes the funding lic, policy based on real science, not woman from California. for international family planning. misguided public and political maneu- Ms. PELOSI. Mr. Chairman, I thank There are many problems with the vers and schemes based on radical the gentleman for yielding. U.S. taxpayer spending nearly $400 mil- environmentalism, is the answer to the Mr. Chairman, I once again reiterate lion every year for international popu- world’s hunger and environmental my opposition to the Paul amendment lation control activities. One very ob- problems. Flooding Third World devel- and support the statement of our chair- vious and practical problem that can- oping and developed countries with po- man, Mr. CALLAHAN. not be ignored is that the taxpayer tentially harmful contraceptives and As this Congress should know by simply cannot afford this type of pro- family planning information, while ap- now, because it has been reiterated on gram any longer. pearing to meet a very humanitarian this floor, no money in this bill can be I wish I could count the number of need, is such a misguided policy. used for abortion. That is the Helms times I have come to the floor to speak There have been numerous reports language. That is the law of the land. out in one way or another against ex- about the atrocities many women have Let us be clear. cessive Federal spending and Govern- suffered, all under the auspices of fam- So we want to take it to a fungibility ment intervention. Every time I im- ily planning. We have seen women in place. I hope that Mr. PAUL will sup- plore Members of this body to consider the slums of Bangladesh and Haiti who H6734 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 3, 1997 are part of experimentation with The CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to the b 1415 Norplant. We have heard accounts of order of the House of Thursday, July American taxpayers have footed the women in Turkey who were told by vol- 24, 1997, further proceedings on the bill for these agencies to open and unteers that ‘‘family planning’’ is more amendment offered by the gentleman maintain offices in Washington, Lon- important than husbands, tradition, from Texas [Mr. PAUL] will be post- don, Brussels, and Johannesburg in culture or God, and that sterilization is poned. support of these lobbying efforts. better than children. AMENDMENT NO. 41 OFFERED BY MR. FOX OF American tax dollars were used to Surely even those who advocate dol- PENNSYLVANIA help CAMPFIRE agencies overturn the lars for responsible population control Mr. FOX of Pennsylvania. Mr. Chair- ivory trade ban, which undermined the policy would be alarmed at this infor- man, I offer an amendment. U.S. negotiating position at the June mation. Surely we should not force our The Clerk read as follows: 1997 Convention of International Trade constituents to contribute to these Amendment No. 41 offered by Mr. Fox of in Endangered Species of Wild Fauna programs that undermine the cultures Pennsylvania: and Flora. of our neighbors. Page 94, after line 3, insert the following: Since 1989, the United States has offi- Mr. Chairman, I would simply con- Sec. 572. None of the funds made available cially opposed the resumption of inter- clude by expressing once again that we under the heading ‘‘DEVELOPMENT ASSIST- national trade in any elephant parts, need to reevaluate our priorities, our ANCE’’ may be used to directly support or including ivory. At the same CITES financial situation, and most impor- promote trophy hunting or the international convention, the elephant was down- tantly, our constitutional obligations, commercial trade in elephant ivory, ele- listed from appendix I to appendix II. phant hides, or rhinoceros horns. and support this amendment. The American position has been so Mrs. LOWEY. I rise in strong opposition to Mr. FOX of Pennsylvania. Mr. Chair- resolute because the devastation of the this amendment which will eliminate USAID man, I rise today in strong support of elephant during the 1980’s was so se- funding for international family planning. the Fox-Miller amendment, which vere. There were 70,000 to 100,000 ele- The need for family planning services in de- would restrict funding of the CAMP- phants slaughtered a year by poachers veloping countries is urgent and the aid we FIRE program used to directly support feeding the international demand for provide is both valuable and worthwhile. Last or promote trophy hunting or the ivory. The continent-wide population February, both the House and the Senate international commercial trade in ele- dropped from 1.3 million to 60,000 in showed their commitment to the USAID Inter- phant ivory, elephant hides, or rhinoc- just a decade’s time. national Family Planning Program by voting eros horns. Elephants are still in peril through- for the early release of the funds for this pro- Mr. Chairman, for the past 8 years, out much of their range, and the re- gram. the Communal Areas Management Pro- sumption of the ivory trade is a grave Eliminating family planning will deeply hurt grams for Indigenous Resources, other- threat. The Fox-Miller amendment is millions of women and children. wise known as CAMPFIRE, has imple- pro-CAMPFIRE, maintaining existing Nearly 600,000 women die each year of mented many valuable programs which funding levels and allowing USAID to causes related to pregnancy and childbirth; 99 have helped improve the quality of life invest in a wider range of revenue-gen- percent of these women live in developing for the people of Zimbabwe. Our erating activities that have thus far re- countries. In many countries, women are the amendment would do nothing to inter- ceived insufficient attention. USAID primary caregivers of children and a mother's fere with these beneficial programs. has provided funds for CAMPFIRE im- plementing organizations for more survival is crucial to the survival and well- Unfortunately, too much of the fund- than 9 years. More than $25 million being of her children. Our international family ing, however, from the U.S. Agency for American tax dollars have been used to planning programs are working to reduce ma- International Development is used to a very significant degree to promote ternal deaths and illness due to childbirth. promote the killing of the African ele- trophy hunting and the international The ability to control the timing and spacing phant, which remains on the endan- trade in ivory. of childbearing helps mothers, infants, and gered species list. The organizations to my left, over Our amendment places a restriction children thrive. Infants born less than 2 years on the use of taxpayer funds for the after a sibling are more likely to have low birth 200, have supported our amendment, as well as over 20 newspapers from around 10th and final year of funding. It is past weight, making them more vulnerable to ill- time that a greater share of USAID ness and death. One in five infant deaths the country. The CAMPFIRE program, instead of funds be used to promote other reve- alone could be averted by the better spacing nue-generating activities such as eco- of births. becoming more sustainable, has be- come increasingly dependent on for- logically-sensitive wildlife tourism. In addition, the health of the mother is also Mr. MILLER of California. Mr. Chair- eign subsidies from USAID other inter- put at risk when couples cannot control the man, I rise in favor of the amendment. number and timing of births. For example, national sources. In 1989, USAID spent Mr. Chairman, I want to thank our very young women and women who have an average of $1.3 million per year over colleague, the gentleman from Penn- 6 years on CAMPFIRE, whereas in 1995, births very close together are at greater risk sylvania [Mr. FOX] for offering this for postpartum hemorrhage, a leading cause USAID pledged to spend an average of amendment. I think this is an impor- of maternal death. And for every woman who $5.12 million per year over 4 years on tant amendment. I rise in strong sup- dies during childbirth, many more face injuries the program. port of this legislation to prohibit the and infections, leaving them permanently dis- Additionally, CAMPFIRE relied on use of taxpayer funds to promote or abled or infertile. funds from countries such as Japan, support the African elephant ivory This amendment will prevent us from elimi- the Netherlands, Germany, Norway, trade or trophy hunting. nating these tragedies. Simply putÐthis Great Britain, the European Commis- Contrary to what Members may have amendment will end our family planning pro- sion, Sweden, and Canada, which in heard, this amendment does not pro- grams. Period. 1995 totaled in excess of $1.4 million hibit and will not prohibit trophy I urge my colleagues to oppose this amend- and which has no ban on its use for the hunting within the Communal Areas ment. We cannot let them eliminate inter- promotion of trophy hunts. Management Programs for Indigenous national family planningÐthere is too much at We are very concerned that U.S. tax- Resources, known as the CAMPFIRE stake. I urge you to continue this vital invest- payer dollars have been used by CAMP- Program. Nor is the Fox-Miller amend- ment in the reproductive health and safety of FIRE implementing agencies to lobby ment in any way inconsistent with the women and children. the U.S. Congress in an ongoing effort recent decision of the Convention on The CHAIRMAN. The question is on to advocate the ivory trade and the the International Trade in Endangered the amendment offered by the gen- weakening of the foreign species provi- Species of Wild Fauna and Flora to per- tleman from Texas [Mr. PAUL]. sion of the Endangered Species Act. mit the limited resumption of the The question was taken; and the We believe it is inappropriate for the ivory trade. Chairman announced that the noes ap- U.S. Government to supply funds to The issue here is whether or not peared to have it. foreign entities which then use those United States tax dollars should be Mr. PAUL. Mr. Chairman, I demand a funds to launch special-interest lobby- used by organizations and agencies im- recorded vote. ing efforts to Members of Congress. plementing the CAMPFIRE program in September 3, 1997 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6735 Zimbabwe to Promote activities that overturn the ban on the international This program is of merit. But what is are clearly opposed by the vast major- ivory trade, that lobbies Congress to not of merit is continuing to use the ity of people who pay taxes, our con- weaken the Endangered Species Act. very few dollars we have to lobby, to stituents. We should not be sending taxpayer dol- come back and to pay for trips to A poll completed earlier this year lars to these organizations to lobby Washington, DC and to Europe, and to found that 88 percent of Americans op- against positions of the U.S. Govern- set up offices throughout Europe to posed the resumption of the ivory ment and to lobby within this Congress lobby on behalf of GATT and WTO and trade. That was also the position of for those tax dollars. weaken the Endangered Species Act; this administration. That is nearly 9 Do not let anyone tell you that this and what is not acceptable is to con- out of 10 Americans who oppose the ac- amendment would injure CAMPFIRE tinue to funnel those monies into ac- tivities that are funded in the bill as it or the struggling villages and popu- tivities that the very participants in currently exists. That is why we need lations for whom the program holds so trophy hunting are fully capable of this amendment. much promise. This amendment puts paying for themselves. These are, for This amendment is not aimed at our tax dollars exactly where CAMP- the most part, very wealthy individ- CAMPFIRE, whose programs I have FIRE is headed, in economic diver- uals who pay huge amounts of money visited in Zimbabwe and whose mission sification, not a program heavily de- to go out and to get a trophy elephant of rural economic development is high- pendent upon shooting elephants to or some other animal. ly admirable. To this point, much of generate revenues. We ought not to be using these mon- the revenue that CAMPFIRE has gen- Do not let anyone tell you that the eys. We ought to be using these moneys erated for local economic development Fox-Miller amendment will interfere for economic diversification of the has come from trophy hunting. Very with the recovery of the African ele- CAMPFIRE Program, so it will have a wealthy hunters pay $12,000 or more for phant promoted by CAMPFIRE; 8 out lasting effect. I urge my colleagues to a permit to shoot elephants and other of 10 elephants in Zimbabwe do not live support the amendment. exotic animals, and much of that in the CAMPFIRE areas. It is not tro- Mr. GILMAN. Mr. Chairman, I move money is repatriated to these villages phy hunting and culling that has al- to strike the last word. for economic development. lowed for the growth in the African ele- Mr. Chairman, I am pleased to rise in CAMPFIRE officials told me over phant herds; it is the international ban support of the Fox-Miller amendment and over again that they are commit- on hides and ivory, which has been to H.R. 2159. This amendment, which ted to moving away from trophy hunt- weakened due to the vigorous lobbying prohibits the use of American tax dol- ing as a major source of revenue for the of CAMPFIRE and groups it supports lars for the purpose of supporting and Program. These officials recognize that with United States taxpayer money. promoting the international trade in while trophy hunting may provide CAMPFIRE, the local villages, the ivory or rhino horn, is a sensible re- large amounts of quick money in the Zimbabwean Government can all con- striction on activities that many start-up phase of CAMPFIRE, that we tinue their hunting and culling oper- Americans find offensive. are now beyond that stage and a more ations as necessary for trophy hunting, This amendment is modest. It will diverse program of economic develop- species protection, and human safety. not stop Zimbabwe or other nations ment is needed. CITES can go forward with the limited from authorizing or conducting trophy Moreover, there is no need to use sale of ivory from existing stockpiles. hunting, which is their sovereign right U.S. taxpayer money to promote tro- The CHAIRMAN. The time of the in accordance with international trea- phy hunting. That is already done gentleman from California [Mr. MIL- ties. Our Government has very sensibly through international hunting groups, LER] has expired. opposed the international trade in ele- magazines, and others. There has been (By unanimous consent, Mr. MILLER phant ivory and hides for many years. no difficulty in attracting a sufficient of California was allowed to proceed for This amendment will ensure that tax- number of hunters to satisfy the an- 2 additional minutes.) payer funds will not be used to under- nual quota of elephants. We certainly Mr. MILLER of California. Mr. Chair- mine that position. do not need to spend millions of tax- man, these limited sales from existing Mr. Chairman, the wildlife of Africa payer dollars to convince hunters to do stockpiles can go forward, but not with is one of the greatest treasures of our that which they are already prepared the dollars that nearly 90 percent of planet. Accordingly, I urge our Mem- to journey halfway around the world the Americans do not want expended bers who care about preserving these and pay $12,000 plus all of their ex- for that purpose. resources to support the Fox-Miller penses to do; that is, to hunt elephants. For 8 years U.S. taxpayers have sup- amendment. More than 80 percent of Some might suggest withholding all ported CAMPFIRE, and I would hope our constituents throughout the coun- U.S. aid from the CAMPFIRE program. that that support would continue. This try oppose the hunting of elephants, I think that would be unwise. I think it is a program of merit. But let us not according to a recent survey. This would be an unfortunate action and let it jeopardize our participation in amendment prevents their hard-earned would deprive the program of critical the CAMPFIRE Program itself by con- tax dollars from supporting this prac- funds to assist rural development in tinuing to fund with American tax- tice. Africa. payer dollars those hunting actions Mr. CALLAHAN. Mr. Chairman, I Instead, what we should do is we that are not acceptable to those very move to strike the requisite number of should assist the development of a same taxpayers, and that, if continued, words. more diversified economic program will eventually sour the support for the Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to promised by CAMPFIRE involving non- entire CAMPFIRE rogram. the amendment. The Agency for Inter- hunting activities such as camping, I want to say to my colleagues that I national Development has been spon- photo safaris, local craft sales, lodges, had an opportunity to visit these pro- soring a program in Zimbabwe known and much, much more. We should tar- grams, and a number of other Members as the CAMPFIRE Program. This get our U.S. tax dollars to these meri- of Congress have visited these pro- project, implemented in cooperation torious and noncontroversial efforts, grams. It is a very, very exciting pro- with the government and local authori- rather than to continue to squander gram and a program of merit to bring ties, is designed to help rural farmers our constituents’ tax dollars on pro- about economic development in incred- and others develop a self-sustaining moting big game hunting by very ibly, unbelievably poor rural commu- economy based partly on tourism. wealthy individuals. That is the goal of nities. The project helps curb the illegal this amendment, to diversify and to This money is being used to develop poaching of African elephants by pro- stabilize the CAMPFIRE Program. wells for drinking water, to develop viding the people of the area with an Our amendment would also end the granaries to grind corn into food, and incentive to conserve these elephants. unacceptable practice of using United to provide for electrification in some Part of the incentive is to allow lim- States tax dollars to fund organiza- cases of these villages; the bare, bare ited legal hunting, although U.S. funds tions like the British-based Africa Re- necessities of any kind of semblance of are not used, and let me repeat, U.S. sources Trust, that lobbies CITES to adequate livelihood. funds are not used for this purpose. H6736 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 3, 1997 Funds generated from the hunting are that which is referred to as the CAMP- We have also seen a number of very used to support economic development. FIRE Program. And I cannot remember important conservation groups endorse Concerns have been expressed that a time when a program has been more this program and, in fact, four have the project has promoted efforts to grossly and greatly misrepresented written to me, in some cases as late as allow international trade in elephant than this one has in the last few min- today, supporting my position. Those ivory. Although that does not seem to utes. Let me explain where this pro- organizations include the African Wild- be true, the committee bill includes gram came from, why it is important, life Foundation, the International bill language prohibiting, and I reit- and why it ought to be retained as is. Union for Conservation of Nature, the erate, prohibiting the use of any funds First, let me say that the point made National Wildlife Federation, and the in contravention of the Convention on by the gentleman from Pennsylvania World Wildlife Fund; all support my International Trade in Endangered [Mr. FOX] that it is funded through the position and oppose the Fox amend- Species. use of funds that the gentleman objects ment. Concerns have also been raised about to, in an earlier news release this Mr. Chairman, they do so for a num- possible illegal lobbying activities. The month, the gentleman indicated that 90 ber of reasons. For example, 7 million AID general counsel has found no evi- percent of the funding for this program people in southern Africa have directly dence that U.S. funds were used for lob- came from the sources that he objects benefited from programs like CAMP- bying activities, and our committee re- to. Therefore, the gentleman’s argu- FIRE. In Zimbabwe alone, 5,000 to port reiterates the obvious: the use of ment falls of its own weight, because if 10,000 jobs have been created and 33 taxpayer funds for lobbying is prohib- we are going to remove 90 percent of percent of the land in that country is ited. the funding, there will be no CAMP- devoted now to conservation and wild- We worked with those on the com- FIRE Program. It is pretty simple. life management, which benefits Afri- mittee, especially the gentleman from Therefore, if we are going to have a can elephants. Mr. Chairman, I am be- Illinois [Mr. YATES], who had concerns CAMPFIRE Program, which the gen- side myself trying to figure out how about this program, and I believe we tleman from Pennsylvania purports to the gentleman from Pennsylvania, my addressed these concerns. I looked to support and at the same time purports friend, wants to defund this program. the gentleman from Illinois [Mr. to withdraw 90 percent of the funding, The population of African elephants it seems like a fairly ridiculous pro- YATES] on this issue due to his vast has also increased from 4 to 6 percent, knowledge of foreign aid issues and due posal. as I said earlier. In Zimbabwe alone, in- Mr. Chairman, in the early 1980’s this to his position as ranking minority creasing from 45,000 elephants to 66,000 program was born. It was born because member on the Subcommittee on Inte- elephants over this same period of of concern which came to fruition in rior of the Committee on Appropria- time, the program the gentleman from 1988 with the passage of the African tions. We negotiated with him in good Pennsylvania wants to defund. Elephant Conservation Act of that faith to produce both a good bill and The CHAIRMAN. The time of the year, and that came about because the report language that represented a re- gentleman from New Jersey [Mr. population of elephants in the African SAXTON] has expired. sponsible approach to this issue. countries was dropping substantially. (By unanimous consent, Mr. SAXTON The author of the amendment does In 1979, for example, there were about was allowed to proceed for 2 additional not seem to want the U.S. Government 1.3 million elephants in Africa. By 1988, to be involved in any way, directly or there were less than 750,000. In 1973, minutes.) Mr. SAXTON. Mr. Chairman, in addi- indirectly, with a program that in- there were 130,000 elephants in Kenya, tion, the number of households partici- volves wildlife management. However, and by 1987, there were only 20,000. the people of Zimbabwe have no choice In 1977, in the Selous Game Reserve pating in CAMPFIRE has grown from but to deal with the facts of their ex- in the United Republic of Tanzania, 9,000 in 1989 to 105,000 in 1996. istence. Failure to implement a respon- there were 109,000 elephants. By 1988, Our Nation’s support for the CAMP- sible wildlife management program in there remained only 55,000. FIRE Program is without question, and that country will inevitably lead to an So the subcommittee which I served it is a misrepresentation to say that irresponsible program, since the people on in the old Committee on the Mer- CAMPFIRE moneys were used in oppo- of Zimbabwe will be forced to deal with chant Marine and Fisheries, the Sub- sition to the U.S. position on sport the increase in the elephant popu- committee on Fish and Wildlife, stud- hunting, because our law provides for lation. ied this situation and recommends the recognition of sport hunting and The end result will be an increase in some changes in law which we thought our negotiation position has provided poaching and further conflicts between would be beneficial. And, in fact, the for the recognition of sports hunting. subsistence farmers and the elephants. African Elephant Conservation Act of Our Nation’s support for the CAMP- This will lead to more elephant deaths, 1988 was passed in that year and it pro- FIRE Program allows thousands of the exact opposite of what the sponsor vided broad authority for our country people to improve their livelihoods and of the amendment is seeking. to unilaterally take action to save ele- has created a situation for the come- I reiterate, the bill prohibits any phants. We did that under the Bush ad- back of the African elephants. This is funds from being used to circumvent ministration and the same policies not a program that we should be tri- the prohibition on the illegal trade in have been followed by the Clinton ad- fling with. elephant ivory. It is a responsible ap- ministration. Congress, this Congress, is criticized proach. I might add, and we bring this Also, the Convention on Inter- over and over again for doing things out in the report language on page 11, national Trade and Endangered Spe- that do not work, and yet this amend- since this program has been started the cies, known as CITES, has enacted ment brought to the floor today would elephant population has increased from international regulations which essen- defund one of the most successful pro- 43,000 to 67,000 in just a few short years. tially do three things: First, Outlaw grams that we have had in the area of the international trade of ivory; sec- conservation. b 1430 ond, permit the continuation of trophy It is not a coincidence that elephant I urge the House to support the com- hunting as a fund-raiser; and third, the populations have increased under mittee position and to oppose the gen- moneys resulting from conservation ef- CAMPFIRE, and it would be a terrible tleman’s amendment. forts such as tourism and hunting mistake to end the Agency for Inter- Mr. SAXTON. Mr. Chairman, I move would be used for conservation by Afri- national Development’s essential in- to strike the requisite number of can countries. volvement and investment in this pro- words. Huge successes have come from this gram. Mr. Chairman, I rise in strong opposi- program which the gentleman from Mr. FOX of Pennsylvania. Mr. Chair- tion to the Fox amendment. Mr. Chair- Pennsylvania would defund. We have man, I ask unanimous consent to ad- man, I must say at the outset that I seen the African elephant population dress the Committee for 2 minutes. have been in this House for over 12 increase from 4 to 6 percent a year; a The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection years, and I cannot think of a more im- huge springback in the years since 1989 to the request from the gentleman portant conservation measure than when this law became effective. from Pennsylvania? September 3, 1997 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6737 Mr. SAXTON. Mr. Chairman, I ob- It does not take the funding away from Mr. Chairman, I think it is very wise ject. CAMPFIRE, but directs it away from and smart and addresses the problem The CHAIRMAN. Objection is heard. lobbying efforts and into conservation appropriately to stop the U.S. taxpayer Ms. PELOSI. Mr. Chairman, I move efforts. from funding trophy hunting, from sub- to strike the requisite number of Mr. MILLER of California. Mr. Chair- sidizing lobbying efforts to support tro- words. man, will the gentlewoman yield? phy hunting, but still maintains the Mr. FOX of Pennsylvania. Mr. Chair- Ms. PELOSI. I yield to the gentleman funding for CAMPFIRE. I urge my col- man, will the gentlewoman yield? from California. leagues to support the Fox-Miller Ms. PELOSI. I yield to the gentleman Mr. MILLER of California. Mr. Chair- amendment. It is pro-CAMPFIRE and from Pennsylvania. man, I thank the gentlewoman from pro-environment. Mr. FOX of Pennsylvania. Mr. Chair- California [Ms. PELOSI] for her state- Mr. POMBO. Mr. Chairman, I move man, let us make it real clear here. I ment and for her support of this to strike the requisite number of understand how there may be two sides amendment and for her clarification. words. to the issue, but I want to be very The suggestion of the gentleman Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to clear. Whether my colleagues embrace from New Jersey [Mr. SAXTON] that this amendment and there are a num- the position of the gentleman from somehow this is an effort to defund ber of reasons why. I think impor- New Jersey [Mr. SAXTON], my friend, CAMPFIRE is just outrageous in the tantly, if we look at the issue of tax- that the program is fine and we should sense that the gentleman understands, payer funding and the whole issue of allow lobbying money to promote if he reads the amendment, it is a very foreign aid, we are in a period of time hunting and illegal trade in ivory, the simple amendment and that is not where we are declining the amount of fact is that no one wants to defund this what it does. money that we are going to spend, and program. To say otherwise is an abso- What this amendment suggests is we I support that. I think that we should lute misrepresentation of my position should not be using taxpayer dollars to spend less money on foreign aid than and those who are advocates for ele- fund an activity that over 88 percent of we currently are. phants and endangered species across the taxpayers in this country find ab- But then we have to look at, if we are the globe. horrent and do not agree with. They going to spend money, what are we Mr. Chairman, the fact is that we are would agree with the CAMPFIRE Pro- going to spend it on? I would argue all for maintaining the funding of gram, but what they do not agree with that we should spend it on programs CAMPFIRE. To say otherwise is an ab- is using their dollars to support trophy that have proven to be successful. This solute misrepresentation and not cor- hunting of big game. That program, program happens to be one of the few rect. The fact is we want to make sure that component, that part of CAMP- that has proven to be extremely suc- the funds get to the people of FIRE can stand on its own, because it cessful. Zimbabwe, in fact get to the CAMP- has centuries of tradition, if you will, Mr. Chairman, I recently had the op- FIRE Program, and are not used for and a constituency of people who seek portunity to visit Africa and to visit the purpose of promoting illegal trade to do it. More people apply to do it one of these CAMPFIRE sites. I was of ivory or illegal hunting. than are allowed to do it each and amazed at how little I actually knew The fact is that funds are being used every year. about how this CAMPFIRE Program to lobby and that is what we object to, Mr. Chairman, what we ought to now worked, until I was there on the ground the lobbying portion, and not to any- be taking is this risk capital in USAID and had the opportunity to see it. We thing else. Because Zimbabwe decides and putting it into diversification of get this romantic vision of what it is for itself whether there is hunting and these rural economies so that more and like from TV, and we think the big whether there is trade. more people in these economies can game hunter is going out there and Ms. PELOSI. Mr. Chairman, reclaim- participate and these economies hope- hunting elephants and all this stuff. ing my time, I rise in support of the fully can prosper and increase the It is not like that. There are people Fox amendment. We should not force standard of living within those rural living in huts who have to erect big the American taxpayer to directly pay economies in Zimbabwe and other fences around their houses to keep the for promoting the international ivory countries. elephants out. They are terrified that trade or elephant trophy hunting. I be- But, Mr. Chairman, the gentleman these elephants are going to kill them. lieve that the Fox-Miller amendment is from New Jersey cannot come here and Some wonder why then we have declin- a very smart approach to this very suggest that somehow this is about ing numbers of elephants in Africa. It complicated challenge before the House defunding CAMPFIRE. That amend- is because the people did not care today. ment will eventually come if we keep about them. They were killing their The Fox amendment bars the use of funding trophy hunting, because the children, they were destroying their American tax dollars for the purpose of American people do not want anything farmland, there was no economic in- supporting or promoting the inter- to do with trophy hunting with Amer- centive, there was no social incentive national commercial trade in ivory or ican taxpayer dollars. Or if CAMPFIRE for them to maintain a high number of rhino horn. The Fox amendment does continues to lobby, then we will have elephants. not stop Zimbabwe, or any other na- an amendment that will wipe out the So then we had to come up with a tion, from authorizing or conducting whole program. program that actually would give them trophy hunting. What we are trying here to do is to that financial incentive and social in- The Fox-Miller amendment is pro preserve the best of this program and centive to protect those elephants, and CAMPFIRE maintaining existing fund- the use of taxpayer dollars and let that this program was devised where a lim- ing levels, allowing USAID to invest in very strong part, that is a very strong ited number of elephants would be a wide-range of revenue-generating ac- constituency, trophy hunting, stand on hunted and it would bring money into tivities that have received insufficient its own and then get on with the diver- these communities. Then all of a sud- activities in the past. When one U.S. sification of the program. den we saw the numbers, as the gen- agency, USAID, undermines the work Ms. PELOSI. Mr. Chairman, reclaim- tleman from New Jersey [Mr. SAXTON] of another U.S. agency, the Depart- ing my time, I once again commend the said earlier, we saw the numbers go ment of Interior, taxpayer dollars are gentleman from Alabama [Mr. CAL- from 44,000 to 67,000 in Zimbabwe alone. wasted and U.S. policy positions are LAHAN], the chairman of our commit- b undermined. tee, who was very sensitive to the con- 1445 The Interior Department has main- cerns of many of us on the committee. And why? Because there was an eco- tained a firm stand against renewing The bill language is an attempt to cor- nomic incentive. There was a social in- the international trade in elephant rect this situation. I think that the centive for them to protect these ele- ivory and hide since 1989. Again, the Fox-Miller amendment goes the com- phants. Now, all of a sudden, instead of Fox amendment bars the use of Amer- mittee one better, and I support the looking the other way when a poacher ican tax dollars for the purpose of sup- perfecting amendment that my col- came in and shot an elephant, they porting or promoting trophy hunting. leagues have put forth. went after the poacher. They wanted to H6738 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 3, 1997 keep them out because these elephants river somewhere so people can come in Mr. YOUNG of Alaska. Mr. Chairman, I rise were important to them. and take pictures of the animals, or a in strong opposition to this misguided amend- I had the opportunity to visit a small tent that is set up and the people ment to restrict the ability of the Agency for school while I was over there. It was a do not do any destruction to the envi- International Development [AID] to fund the little three-room school, but those peo- ronment at all? CAMPFIRE program [Communal Area Man- ple were so proud of that school. How But they are getting into the photo- agement Programme For Indigenous Re- did they pay for it? They do not have graphic safaris and in the future, sources]. any money. The average income is $400 maybe some day, that will be a major While I am not normally an advocate of for- a year. How did they pay for the source of income for them. They would eign aid, CAMPFIRE has been one of the school? They paid for it with moneys like to see it go into that and have a most successful programs ever funded by the that came from this CAMPFIRE Pro- greater income and diversify. But cur- Agency for International Development. gram. They paid for it with the help rently that is not there, and 90 percent In fact, it has been so successful that the that we were able to give them. We saw of the money that is coming in from program, which started in Zimbabwe, has wells that were put in, and for the first this is coming in from the hunts. If we been adopted by other African countries, time these people had fresh drinking do away with that, we have killed the including Botswana, Namibia, Malawi, Mozam- water out of a well. These things were program. And whether our intention is bique, Tanzania, and Zambia. important to them. They may seem to kill the program or not, that is ex- What is the CAMPFIRE program? In short, like everyday life to us, but when we actly what we are doing is killing the it is an initiative to improve the standard of liv- are looking at the outback of Africa, program. ing among Africa's poorest rural farmers by these were very important issues to I think that even though I believe giving them an economic stake in the wildlife them. the gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. resources of their country. Under CAMPFIRE, I want to talk a few minutes about FOX] had good intentions going into villagers receive a direct economic benefit endangered species and about the pro- this, I believe that there were some from their wildlife and, therefore, a powerful in- gram that was created. The program mistakes made. I believe that this is centive to conserve those resources. that was created in this circumstance going in the opposite direction of what In some rural areas, CAMPFIRE provides created an economic incentive for we need to do. I think this is the kind up to 90 percent of the money villagers use to these people to promote more African of program we need to look at and build and maintain their homes, hospitals, and elephants. They were hugely successful learn from, of some of the right things schools. Without CAMPFIRE, many Africans at it. to do and the wrong things to do. and numerous wildlife species, including ele- If you want to look at our endan- Mr. PETERSON of Minnesota. Mr. phants, face a bleak future. gered species program, you can see ev- Chairman, I move to strike the req- Under the CAMPFIRE program, a village re- erything that we are doing wrong. We uisite number of words, and I rise in ceives a percentage of the money collected want to look at some of the good ideas opposition to this amendment. from the proceeds from wildlife management. that have come out of this program I do not claim to know as much as For instance, if a sport hunter wants to shoot and we look at a way of conserving our some of the previous speakers, but a Cape buffalo or an African elephant, it will wildlife that I think we have some- from what I can tell, this has been a cost him thousands of dollars. Prior to CAMP- thing to learn from. It has been hugely successful program that has encour- FIRE, all this money went directly to the successful. aged conservation and has actually re- central government in Harare. Today, a signifi- I have also heard Members talk about duced poaching and improved the situ- cant percentage of those funds remains at the the CAMPFIRE Program somehow pro- ation in Zimbabwe. As I understand it, local level and the villagers themselves, in a moting the illegal trade and poaching in Kenya what they have done is, they democratic process, decide how this money of elephants and ivory. There is noth- have eliminated this type of hunting will be spent. This is the essence of the ing that could be further from the and the poaching has increased and CAMPFIRE program is local control of wildlife truth because what this has done has conservation efforts have decreased. and financial incentives, which result in effec- stopped the illegal poaching of ele- And really, Members need to under- tive conservation programs. phants in these areas, areas where we stand what this is about. This is really The CAMPFIRE program is strongly sup- still have illegal trade, and illegal about eliminating hunting. It would be ported by not only the Clinton administration poaching of elephants and ivory are the same thing if we said in the United but also such major conservation organiza- coming from the areas where they do States that we are going to take the tions as the African Wildlife Foundation, Inter- not have this program. So if we want Pittman-Robertson money and we are national Union for the Conservation of Nature, to do what is right for the wildlife, it is going to take the Dingell-Johnson International Union for Conservation of Nature, to vote against this amendment be- money and we are going to say that it National Wildlife Federation, Safari Club Inter- cause this program has been successful. cannot be used for anything that has to national, the World Wildlife Fund, and the If we want to do what is right for the do with hunting. International Association of Fish and Wildlife people of Africa, we have to vote And what would happen if we did Agencies. These entities enthusiastically sup- against this amendment. that? Those programs would fall apart. port this program because they recognize that: We have heard earlier in the debate They have been some of the most suc- Seven million people in Southern Africa Members talk about the idea of getting cessful programs that we have ever put have directly benefited from programs like away from hunting and getting into together in this country. CAMPFIRE. photographic safaris and ecotourism, Everybody understands that without In Zimbabwe, 5,000 to 10,000 jobs have and they are doing that. In fact, while hunters, without their contribution to been created and 33 percent of the land in I was there, I had the opportunity to conservation in this country, we would that country is now devoted to wildlife man- visit one of the sites where they were not have the kind of wildlife that we agement. conducting the photographic safaris, have at the present time. If we elimi- The population of African elephants has in- and in the safaris they had several nate hunting in Zimbabwe, which is creased in Zimbabwe from 45,000 to more camps that were set up and it was like what we will do with this program, we than 66,000 today and poaching in CAMP- a mini hotel that they had to set up. will have the results that we have seen FIRE areas has been stopped. And they had to bring in fresh water in Kenya. The number of households participating in and they had to bring in sewer facili- I think we should be very clear about CAMPFIRE has grown from 9,000 in 1989 to ties and they had to somehow develop what this is about. This is about elimi- about 105,000 in 1995. an electrical system, all of this in the nating hunting. And if Members are for The number of elephants shot in CAMP- name of conducting a photographic sa- that, I guess they want to vote for this FIRE areas has decreased since its introduc- fari. amendment. But if they believe in con- tion from 300 per year to 130 in 1996. And if you contrast that with the servation, if they believe in approach- Our Nation's support of the CAMPFIRE pro- hunters that come in where you pitch a ing this the right way and they believe gram allows thousands of people to improve tent out in the middle of nowhere, hunting is a good way to manage our their livelihoods, to provide education and the what is best for the environment? The natural resources, they will oppose this most basic health care for their children, and development of a hotel on the edge of a amendment. to effectively manage their wildlife resources. September 3, 1997 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6739 In addition, it encourages the growth of demo- Zimbabwe, and therefore, we should continue are provided in this bill for the U.S. cratic ideals. our assistance because it helps the impover- Army School of the Americas. And It is not a coincidence that elephant popu- ished villagers of that country. Unfortunately, while I do appreciate what has been lations have increased under CAMPFIRE, and Mr. Chairman, the assistance has limited im- done on this subject that is reflected in it would be a terrible mistake to end AID's es- pact upon the population of rural Zimbabwe. the language in the bill before us, I am sential investment in this innovative program. Only 5 cents out of every dollar generated ac- compelled to offer this amendment to- In the final analysis, CAMPFIRE and programs tually benefits rural households in Zimbabwe. gether with my colleagues on the sub- like it are Africa's best hope for conserving its The comments from my constituents in San committee, the gentleman from Illi- wildlife resources and providing its population Francisco and San Mateo County speak vol- nois [Mr. YATES] and the gentleman with a bright future. umes about the public's view of this trophy from Pennsylvania [Mr. FOGLIETTA] I urge a no vote on the Fox/Miller amend- hunting program that is supported by the which prohibits any of the funds of this ment. CAMPFIRE program. Mr. Chairman, I would bill being used for the school. Mr. LANTOS. Mr. Chairman, I rise to voice like to share a few of the comments of my I think it is important to note that my strong support for the amendment offered constituents with my colleagues: in last year’s bill, this committee di- by the distinguished gentleman from Penn- The CAMPFIRE program is an outrageous rected the Departments of State and sylvania [Mr. FOX] and my distinguished col- contradiction that flies in the face of a gov- Defense to submit a report no later league and fellow Californian [Mr. MILLER] to ernment continually professing its concern than January 15 on a number of con- eliminate the use of U.S. taxpayer funds to for nature and the environment on a global cerns that the Members had expressed promote or support the trophy hunting of ele- basis.—Carol Kemski, San Bruno, California. about the school, such as the screening phants under the USAID sponsored program This cruel and destructive government pro- process for applicants and monitoring called Communal Areas Management Pro- gram should not be supported by our tax dol- of graduates. This approach was agreed grams for Indigenous Resources [CAMPFIRE]. lars.—Ron Scheinberg, San Francisco, Cali- upon at that time despite our inclina- This amendment to the Foreign Operations fornia. Appropriations Act of 1997 echoes the senti- I am aghast by the fact that the USAID is tion to cut off those funds. This year, diverting our tax dollars into CAMPFIRE in this report was received at the ‘‘elev- ment of the American people to eliminate tro- order to enable trophy hunting of ele- phy hunting and to prevent the use of tax- enth hour’’ just prior to the sub- phants.—Mary Larkin, San Francisco, Cali- committee’s markup on June 25, nearly payer dollars to lobby for and to promote tro- fornia. phy hunting. 6 months late. Mr. Chairman, the Fox-Miller amendment 1 As elected officials, we are duty bound to The report, 3 ⁄2 pages in length, does will not stop trophy hunting in Zimbabwe. The uphold the will of our constituents, the wishes not represent what I believe to be, nor government of that country has the sovereign of the American people. A 1997 Penn & the committee, many of the committee right to do what it chooses to do in this regard. Schoen survey found that 84 percent of Amer- Members, a serious effort to be respon- But this amendment will stop U.S. taxpayer icans oppose trophy hunting, domestically and sive to the issues that were addressed. funds from being used to support trophy hunt- abroad. Despite this overwhelming opposition It merely details how screening is in- to the practice of trophy hunting, the USAID- ing, which 84 percent of the American people tended to be carried out and contains funded CAMPFIRE program uses trophy hunts oppose. no evaluation of how this process is to generate funds for the majority of its Mr. Chairman, I strongly urge my colleagues carried out. projects. A recent study of the CAMPFIRE to support this amendment and stop the out- It further states that the school, that program showed that 90 percent of the funds rage of U.S. taxpayer funding of trophy hunt- neither the school nor other U.S. per- generated from CAMPFIRE districts intended ing. sonnel have the capacity to monitor The CHAIRMAN. The question is on to help the indigenous populations came from graduates. The lateness of the report trophy hunting. While CAMPFIRE funds may the amendment offered by the gen- and its brevity indicate that the school be used for the development of many suc- tleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. FOX]. and the Defense Department have The question was taken; and the cessful and positive programs in Africa, we failed to take reforms seriously. Chairman announced that the noes ap- cannot condone the methods which are used I am offering this amendment today peared to have it. to generate these funds. because I believe it is time to forge a Mr. FOX of Pennsylvania. Mr. Chair- The U.S. Government has consistently sup- new relationship with Latin America, man, I demand a recorded vote. ported the international ban on trade in ivory to mark a new era in U.S. support for The CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to the in order to prevent the destruction of endan- democracy in this hemisphere. The order of the House of Thursday, July gered species. United States conservation pol- cold war is over, Mr. Chairman. Root- 24, 1997, further proceedings on the icy should remain consistent. Our foreign as- ing out Communist insurgents is passe. amendment offered by the gentleman sistance should not be funding elephant hunts Human rights violations in the pursuit from Pennsylvania [Mr. FOX] will be for ivory at the same time that we are also of eliminating the enemy cannot be postponed. supporting an international ban on trade in condoned. AMENDMENT NO. 17 OFFERED BY MR. TORRES ivory. Not long ago, our Government rightly The School of the Americas cannot spoke out at the Convention on International Mr. TORRES. Mr. Chairman, I offer deny its dismal connection with the Trade in Endangered Species [CITES] to ex- an amendment. worst human rights violators in the re- press strong opposition to the down-listing of The Clerk read as follows: gion. The school’s graduates who are the African elephant from appendix I to appen- Amendment No. 17 offered by Mr. TORRES: human rights violators are not just a dix II of the convention. This down-listing At the end of the bill, insert after the last bunch of bad apples. The list of human section (preceding the short title) the follow- would further dilute the international ban on rights violators connected with the the ivory trade. The bipartisan Fox-Miller ing new section: school is long and is getting longer as amendment would bring our foreign assistance PROHIBITION OF FUNDS FOR SCHOOL OF THE names of violators are matched up with into line with existing United States conserva- AMERICAS those of graduates. tion policy toward preserving the African ele- SEC. 572. Notwithstanding any other provi- phant. sion of this Act, none of the funds appro- The Salvadoran Truth Commission Mr. Chairman, another disturbing effect of priated or otherwise made available by this cited 19 out of 26 officers for the mas- the CAMPFIRE program is the lobbying efforts Act may be used for programs at the United sacre of Jesuit priests; 100 out of 246 undertaken in a number of capitals in support States Army School of the Americas located Colombian officers cited for war of expanding the program. CAMPFIRE plans at Fort Benning, Georgia. crimes; 6 Peruvian officers involved in to expand beyond Zimbabwe and has opened (Mr. TORRES asked and was given the killing of 9 students and a profes- offices in Washington, London, Brussels, and permission to revise and extend his re- sor; Panamanian dictator Manuel Johannesburg for the principal purpose of lob- marks.) Noriega. The list goes on and on and on bying. CAMPFIRE is a sustainable develop- Mr. TORRES. Mr. Chairman, I would and cannot be dismissed as just a few ment program and should not be engaging in like to preface my remarks about this exceptions. the process of lobbying on its own behalf with amendment by first thanking the gen- Throughout Latin America, the taxpayer dollars. tleman from Alabama [Mr. CALLAHAN] School of the Americas is seen as a The argument has been made that the for his efforts to work with me on how training ground for repressive mili- CAMPFIRE program benefits the people of we address the funding elements that taries and dictators; and its record, its H6740 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 3, 1997 record, I underscore that, cannot be ig- Approximately 60,000 young Latin U.S. Army training manuals that are nored. The recently declassified train- American and Caribbean officers have appropriate and which are now being ing manuals used at the school as les- graduated from the SOA since its cre- translated, and have been translated son plans and reading materials show ation in 1946, the vast majority of into Spanish. that something indeed was wrong with whom have served their nations honor- This Member would tell his col- the school’s curriculum. These manu- ably and responsibly. leagues that the School of the Ameri- als taught armies to violate human Mr. Chairman, opponents of the cas does not employ confidential tor- rights, to use physical abuse, to use School for the Americas focus on the ture manuals, nor does the SOA in any blackmail, to use blacklists, to use excesses of a few notorious graduates. way engage in such heinous exercises censorship, to spy on civilian organiza- This Member is the first to acknowl- as training its students to keep their tions like student groups, like trade edge that some very unsavory char- shock victims alive for interrogation unions, like community organizations acters have managed to attend the as some have alleged. This body should and opposition political parties, to con- school. But such criticism overlooks not participate in this wrongful de- fuse the boundaries between civilians the overwhelming majority, well over monization of the School of the Ameri- and combatants and to ignore the rule 99 percent, of honest, capable, intel- cas. of law. ligent officers who study at the School Mr. Chairman, the training at the Over and over again the school has of the Americas. They return to their School of the Americas does far, far tried to downplay rather than fully ac- homes and serve their nations honor- more good in encouraging appropriate knowledge these problems with its ably and with distinction. And this human rights practices than any pos- training. It is good that the school has Member would remind his colleagues sible harm which could come from even added 4 hours on human rights in its that graduates of the SOA are person- a perversion of such an education pro- courses, but this hardly makes the ally responsible for the return of de- gram that some former student might School of the Americas a school for mocracy in nations such as Bolivia and practice. It is time to end this mis- human rights. These changes are just Argentina, and many of the school’s guided attack on the SOA. This Member wishes he could guaran- far too little, too late. graduates have lost their lives while tee to his colleagues that no future Let me emphasize that cutting off combating drug lords in Colombia and graduate of the SOA will ever abuse funds to the school does not prevent Peru. Focusing on a few bad apples human rights or undermine civilian the many forms of conduct and co- does a disservice to the commissioned government, but obviously this is im- operation between the United States and noncommissioned officers who possible. What this Member can guar- and Latin American militaries. This have attended the School for the Amer- antee is that every effort will continue year alone, over 60,000 military troops icas and who subsequently fought ter- to be made to fully indoctrinate the will rotate throughout Latin America rorists and narcotraffickers in the jun- students on respect for human rights on various training missions and as- gles of Latin America. and democracies. The training at the signments. Additionally, the inter- b 1500 school undoubtedly does far, far more national military education and train- good than any hypothetical harm ing program for military personnel will While the early focus of the institu- tion was on combating Soviet-backed which would come from even a perver- come to the United States and study at sion of such an educational program many of our U.S. institutions. The insurgencies, in recent years the school’s emphasis has shifted toward some future student might practice. School of the Americas is just but one This Member must say, therefore, of those. combating drug trafficking and re- sponding to rural disease and environ- that it is time for this body and for But it does make an important break certain organizations outside of this with the past. It shows Latin Ameri- mental degradation. One very positive result of the recent attention to the body to abandon this misguided attack cans who have worked valiantly for on the School of the Americas. I urge school has been a much greater empha- human rights and civilian control over my colleagues to reject this amend- sis on human rights. Every student at militaries in their countries and U.S. ment and send a message to the organi- the school is now exposed to a rigorous religious orders whose missionaries and zations, get your facts straight, catch formal and informal training program priests were killed by militaries up with reality. It is time to stop and in basic human rights. Specific classes trained at the School of the Americas. get off this hobby horse. The School of and case studies are used to enhance The CHAIRMAN. The time of the the Americas is an important institu- the training and to make U.S. concerns gentleman from California [Mr. tion for the United States and for de- unambiguously clear. The roles and TORRES] has expired. mocracy throughout the hemisphere. (By unanimous consent, Mr. TORRES rights of civilians, clergy and human Mr. BURTON of Indiana. Mr. Chair- was allowed to proceed for 1 additional rights observers and U.N. personnel are man, I move to strike the last word. minute.) integrated into the training program. Mr. Chairman, I want to give a spe- Mr. TORRES. Mr. Chairman, I repeat While the SOA has rightly increased cific example of how the School of the again, the priests that were killed by its emphasis on human rights, this Americas helps America, the United militaries trained at the School of the Member believes that there is a basic States of America. The Colombian Na- Americas, and that the United States value in encouraging military officers tional Police, which is one of our front- now is fully determined to chart a new from Latin America and the Caribbean line combatant units against the drug course. We want to do that. The school to study and to train in the United cartels in Colombia, gets a great deal represents an outdated approach to a States. An institution such as the SOA, of training from the School of the fragile region that is struggling with which annually hosts approximately Americas. The first 40 hours of their democracy, and we only have to read 1,300 students from almost 20 countries, training is in the area of human rights. and watch television every day to see provides a level of professional training General Serrano and the Colombian po- what is happening. that is not otherwise available. More- lice because of that have a stellar Cutting off funds to the school in this over, exposure to the U.S. lifestyle, human rights record. Our State De- bill sends a clear signal. It is an impor- values, and ideals offers important les- partment has told us in committee tant step in forging a new relationship sons for the future military leaders of that the Colombian National Police, with Latin American militaries based Latin America. which is a recipient, a beneficiary of first and foremost upon adherence to Mr. Chairman, opponents have point- the School of the Americas, has an al- civilian authority and the respect for ed to three manuals that were for a most 100 percent human rights record. human rights. short time used by the school. It is I believe it is because of the School of Mr. BEREUTER. Mr. Chairman, I true that these manuals had short pas- the Americas, because of the training rise in opposition to the amendment. sages, in one instance less than a sen- they are getting there. Mr. Chairman, the School of the tence, that were inconsistent with U.S. The thing that is interesting about Americas was established to heighten Army doctrine. When discovered, these this is these people who are trained in the professionalism of the military es- manuals were immediately withdrawn the School of the Americas, the Colom- tablishments throughout the Americas. and destroyed. The school now employs bian National Police that are fighting September 3, 1997 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6741 the war against drugs, against the Co- The School of the Americas is closely su- atrocities committed by the School of lombian drug cartel, lay their lives on pervised by the U.S. Army and U.S. Southern the Americas graduates does not come the line every single day not just for Command. Its curriculum is beyond re- from information or surveys carried their people in their country but for proach. Indeed, it has been at the forefront out by the school itself. It comes from of the effort to incorporate human rights our kids in America who are the recipi- training in all military instruction. It is de- the hard, often dangerous investiga- ents of the drugs that are coming out serving of your support. Your leadership will tions undertaken by human rights of Colombia and Latin America and be important in ensuring that this important groups, U.N.- and government-ap- Central America. For us to close down vehicle for effective military-to-military re- pointed truth commissions and other the School of the Americas and to cut lations remains viable. dedicated individuals. The school has off funding would be a giant step, a Respectfully, always taken a posture of denial, that giant step in the wrong direction. BARRY R. MCCAFFREY, ignorance is better than knowing the The last point I want to make very Director. truth. briefly is this. We know for a fact that Mr. Chairman, the war on drugs in Mr. Chairman, nothing can bring the people in Colombia who are suffer- Latin America is real. Professional back my friends to life. Nothing can ing human rights abuses go to the Co- training to fight narcoguerrillas is fill the intellectual, spiritual, and vi- lombian National Police, who have critical. The School of the Americas sionary void left by their murders. But been trained in how to deal with helps meet that need. General McCaf- I have walked on the ground where human rights abuses for protection. I frey does point out that the school is they died, and I will not support one think it would be a terrible mistake for closely supervised by the U.S. Army more single tax dollar being used to us to cut off funding for this very im- and the U.S. Southern Command. Its keep open a school that helped to shape portant program if for no other reason curriculum is beyond reproach. Indeed, and train these killers. because of the Colombian National Po- it has been at the forefront of the ef- I want to thank my fellow col- lice who are fighting so hard every sin- fort to incorporate human rights train- leagues, the gentleman from Massachu- gle day to protect our kids from drugs ing in all of its military instruction. I setts [Mr. KENNEDY], the gentleman and to stop the flow of drugs coming thank the gentleman for yielding. from California [Mr. TORRES], and into America. Mr. BURTON of Indiana. I thank the members of the Subcommittee on For- Mr. GILMAN. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman for his participation. eign Operations who support this gentleman yield? Mr. MCGOVERN. Mr. Chairman, I amendment for their leadership on this Mr. BURTON of Indiana. I yield to move to strike the requisite number of issue. I urge all of my colleagues to the gentleman from New York, the words. vote ‘‘yes’’ on the Torres amendment. chairman of the Committee on Inter- Mr. Chairman, I rise in strong sup- Mr. BROWN of California. Mr. Chair- national Relations. port of the Torres amendment, and I man, I move to strike the requisite Mr. GILMAN. I want to commend the wish to speak briefly but from the number of words. gentleman for focusing attention on heart on this issue. I have seen first- Mr. Chairman, I had not intended to the narcotics training that they re- hand the work of many of the grad- participate in this debate, but I do ceive at the School of the Americas. uates of the School of the Americas have an active interest in this matter They receive first rate instruction on a who served as officers in the Salva- and have had occasion in the past to variety of subjects, but included very doran Armed Forces during the recent get myself involved in it in one way or out-front and very positively is their conflict in that country. I had the another. As a matter of fact, my long training countering the illegal drug privilege of working with the gen- history goes back to what we then threat. I am pleased to join my col- tleman from Massachusetts [Mr. MOAK- called Benning School for Boys, which league in opposition to the gentleman LEY], the honorable dean of our State I had the honor of attending in my own from California’s amendment. delegation, on the House investigation training to be a second lieutenant of Mr. Chairman, I include for the of the brutal 1989 murders of six Jesuit infantry. It hurts me to see that school RECORD a letter from General Barry priests, their housekeeper, and her 15- associated with the kind of record McCaffrey, our drug czar and the year-old daughter. For those unfamil- which we now hear with regard to the former Commander in Chief of the U.S. iar with the case, units of the Salva- School of the Americas. I am not try- Southern Command, in support of the doran Army surrounded the university ing to point the finger at everything School of the Americas, stressing the where these eight people worked. Sol- the school does. I commend the effort important role in countering the ille- diers entered their home, forced the six to improve the training and improve gal drug trade, as follows: priests out of bed, and then outside the sensitivity to human rights of the EXECUTIVE OFFICE OF THE PRESI- into the yard. The soldiers then forced officer corps of our neighboring na- DENT, OFFICE OF NATIONAL DRUG the priests to lay down on the ground, tions. But it has not succeeded in ac- CONTROL POLICY, put high-powered rifles to their heads, complishing that goal in the way that Washington, DC, July 16, 1997. pulled the triggers, and blew their I would like. DEAR REPRESENTATIVE CALLAHAN: My pur- brains across the grass. These same It is unquestionably true that over pose in writing is to ask for your support of soldiers then went back inside the these past 50 years of the school’s ex- the U.S. Army School of the Americas. The house and found and killed the terrified istence, a large, very large number of Appropriations Bill for Foreign Operations, Export Financing, and Related Programs housekeeper and her teenage daughter. the graduates have been involved in being considered today contains language Mr. Chairman, I knew these priests. I human rights violations. I would not that, if enacted, would make this important was privileged to call them friends. want to characterize all of the grad- institution ineffective. They all had names and family and pa- uates as being some kind of evil per- As Commander in Chief of U.S. Southern rishioners, students and colleagues who sons. I am not sure that if we did not Command, my responsibilities included fur- loved them. When the 26 Salvadoran have the school, we still would not thering the development of professional military personnel cited for these mur- have violations of civil rights in those Latin American armed forces that promoted ders were identified, 19 were graduates and protected human rights and that were societies which are conducive to or or- supportive of democratic governance. The of the School of the Americas. If this ganized in a way that encourages viola- School of the Americas was, and continues were the only horror story associated tion of civil rights. We have instances to be, the Department of Defense’s pre- with the School of the Americas, we in this country of where commissioned eminent military educational institution for would not be having this debate today. officers and noncommissioned officers accomplishing these goals. The soldiers, ser- But there are hundreds and hundreds of are guilty of violating the civil rights geants, and officers that come to the School such stories. And tens of thousands of of individuals, both within the ranks of the Americas interact with our own sol- men, women, and children throughout and outside the ranks. We do not blame diers. They are systematically exposed to Latin America have been tortured or the principles of military subordination to the entire establishment for those few civilian authority and the rule of law. They have perished on the orders of or at the cases. also receive first rate instruction on a vari- hands of these graduates. But here is a situation where over 50 ety of subjects including countering the ille- Let me be clear, Mr. Chairman. The years, it is undeniable that the grad- gal drug threat. little we do know about actions and uates of this school have been involved H6742 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 3, 1997 in this kind of practice. I would sug- Just over 1 month ago, I joined al- unique peacekeeping instruction, and gest that the time has come to ac- most every other Member in this body its one-of-a-kind human rights training knowledge that we assisted in per- in passing legislation congratulating initiative. Through these programs, petrating these atrocities through the El Salvador, and much has been said the school allows the United States to training that we gave to these officers. about El Salvador during this debate, support and defend Latin American de- While we should continue to offer as- for recent elections and the country’s mocracies and to encourage responsible sistance and to provide training, if nec- progress toward full democracy. The government policies without forward essary, in other ways, we ought to resolution passed overwhelmingly, 419 deployments such as those used in abolish the school and start with a to 3. Bosnia and in Haiti. clean slate. Some of these same offi- What my colleagues probably do not I, for one, am not ready to surrender cers could be eligible to go to West know is that one of the Salvadoran Latin America and the Caribbean to Point or some of our other academies. government’s top officials, a Minister drug lords and dictators. I urge my col- We train the elites from many of these of Defense, Major General Guzman, is a leagues to take responsibility of the countries in our most prestigious uni- former School of the Americas instruc- human rights leadership by opposing versities. We should continue to do tor. General Guzman is typical of the this amendment which would close the that. For those who seek a military ca- vast majority of the school’s 60,000 School of the Americas, diminishing reer, we could give them the ROTC graduates and visiting instructors who opportunities for the expansion of de- course at Harvard possibly or some in one very important way, has re- mocracy in Latin America. other alternative to what they are get- turned home to apply his human rights Mr. KUCINICH. Mr. Chairman, I ting at the School of the Americas. But training to remedy his country’s prob- move to strike the requisite number of we need to put this past behind us. We lems of the past. words. Mr. Chairman, I want to say that I cannot continue as a nation to condone General Guzman institutionalized agree with my distinguished col- the fact that graduates have engaged human rights training in the Salva- league’s last words about the necessity in the sort of practice that have been doran armed forces. Before his program to fight against drugs. In Latin Amer- described here, the slaughter of priests was initiated, human rights violations ica, and around the globe, wherever we and nuns and the disappearance of numbered more than 2,000 each month, find that problem, I think it is impor- thousands of people throughout Latin but after 5 years, that number has tant that all of us in this Congress take America. dropped to less than 20 per month, and a stand against the drugs which are in- Let us put that behind us. Let us dis- today, under General Guzman’s zero fecting this country and the entire continue the funding of this school. If tolerance program, violations almost never occur. world. we feel it necessary to continue to as- So I am glad that there is that kind sist in the development of an improved The School of the Americas is not the answer to all Latin America’s prob- of support, and it is bipartisan support military, let us find improved methods for fighting drugs. However we are lems. There is still work to be done. to do that job if it does indeed need to called upon, and looking at the amend- But I urge my colleagues to consider be done. ment of the gentleman from California the lives that the School of the Ameri- Mr. COLLINS. Mr. Chairman, I move [Mr. TORRES], to make an assessment cas has saved. Every year, the school to strike the requisite number of of a school that is operated out of Fort graduates thousands of men and words. Benning, GA, which does more than women who return to their countries Mr. Chairman, I strongly oppose this just train people to deal with drugs, to apply the lessons they have learned amendment which amounts to a step and we all agree that we want drugs in a Latin American environment still backward in the war on drugs and two dealt with, and there are many ways in plagued by instability and violence. steps backyard in our support of free- which they can be dealt with, but that The stories that we do not hear are dom, democracy, and human rights in is not what the School of the Americas those heroes. These are the military our own backyard. In July, both Gen- is about. eral McCaffrey, the drug czar, and Gen- leaders who fought for democracy and The School of Americas in Fort eral Shalikashvili, chairman of the yielded military control to civilian au- Benning, GA, has a roster of graduates Joint Chiefs, highlighted the impor- thorities. These are the police officers that reads like a Who’s Who of human tance of the School of the Americas in fighting the drug lords in the street. rights violators: the war on drugs. The frontlines of this These are the men and women who Nineteen of the twenty-six Salva- war are found throughout Latin Amer- have returned control of the govern- doran officers accused in the 1989 mas- ica and the Caribbean. Colombia, Pan- ments of Latin America to the people sacre of the six Jesuits and their ama, and Bolivia serve as prime exam- of Latin America. housekeeper and the housekeeper’s ples of countries whose drug interdic- This is not simply a matter of foreign daughter were graduates of the School tion strategies would be crippled with- assistance. It is critical to our own of the Americas. out the benefit of United States equip- self-interests to maintain democracies Ten of the twelve cited in the El ment and, most importantly, United in countries so close to our borders. Mozote massacre where an entire vil- States training at the School of the The School of the Americas allows us lage was wiped out without a trace; Americas. The school is a key to pre- to do so without deploying our own men, women and children, wiped out; 10 serving democracy in our hemisphere. troops. of the 12 people involved in that were Since 1946, the U.S. Army has trained The State Department, the Salva- graduates of the School of the Ameri- the Latin American military leaders doran and Honduran Ambassadors to cas. who have turned back dictatorship, re- the United States, the President of the Two of the three officers cited in turning political power to the people Committee of Presidents of the Central Archbishop Romero’s assassination and yielding military authority to ci- American Legislative Human Rights were graduates of the School of the vilian institutions. Commission, the Chairman of the Joint Americas. Chiefs of Staff, the acting Commander The School of the Americas; of what b 1515 in Chief of the United States Southern America is this the school of? Cer- In 1972, there are only six democ- Command, the Under Secretary of the tainly not the United States of Amer- racies in Latin America. Today, thanks Army, the Director of the National Of- ica, because the people of the United in part to the school’s instruction, fice of Drug Control Policy, the author- States of America do not support mur- there are 19. izing committee on both sides of the der, do not support rape, do not support As civil war in the region has given Capitol, and the last Presidential ad- torture. Yet this is called the School of way to peace, and democracy has taken ministration have argued that the the Americas, and its graduates are in- hold, the U.S. Army School of the school serves vital national interests volved in rape, murder, torture, geno- Americas has developed a military through its counterdrug operations and cide. The School of the Americas in- human rights training program that is its counterdrug cadet leadership devel- deed. unmatched anywhere in the world opment courses, its professional mili- The people of the United States do today. tary training program, including not support the kind of conduct which September 3, 1997 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6743 has come from this school and which is the do-gooders get out there and start may be over, but the war against nar- being done in the name of Americas. saying the cold war is over, because we cotics traffickers is not. The cold war Four churchwomen, including Sister know what is coming next, another may be over, but the fact of the matter Dorothy Kazel, a nun from Cleveland, piece of legislation, another diatribe is, Mr. Chairman, there are narco-ter- OH, and someone who happened to be a that we must cut back, cut back, cut rorists out there in Latin America, and friend of mine, were raped and brutally back, cut back. we need to use every legitimate tool at murdered in El Salvador. The U.N. Well, the cold war may be over in a our disposal, and this is a legitimate Truth Commission investigating the formal sense, Mr. Chairman, but there tool at our disposal and the way that murders verified that the School of the are many very good, productive, posi- we can reach out and influence for the Americas trained three of the five offi- tive reasons to deny the do-gooders better these officers. cers responsible for the churchwomen’s this latest opportunity to prove to the Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Chairman, will deaths. world that we can be more namby- the gentleman yield? Now Sister Dorothy was more than a pamby than some other country some- Mr. BARR of Georgia. I yield to the friend to me. She was a friend to hu- where in the world at some point in gentleman from New York. time. manity. She went to El Salvador to b 1530 bring about peace and justice for those Mr. Chairman, one thing that escapes who desperately need it, and she was me in this latest round of do-good-ism Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Chairman, I brutally murdered for her efforts, along that we are hearing today is what these thank the gentleman for yielding. with Jean Donovan and two other folks think would happen if the School Mr. Chairman, I apologize for having nuns. Sister Dorothy Kazel’s sister-in- of the Americas were closed and if we to run off the floor to a meeting, but law asked me to deliver this message then, as they would have us do, then the points that the gentleman are to my colleagues in the United States search out every other program in making are so well taken. We are fight- Congress, and I quote: which we provide some sort of training, ing a battle today of terrorism. We are control over foreign military officers. ‘‘Congress needs to act now. The women fighting a battle of illegal drugs in this were killed by officers trained at the School Do they think that all of a sudden country. These officers that are trained of the Americas. I just don’t understand why magically, as they had been anointed at the School of the Americas are we are training human rights violators on with this vision of the universe, that doing a service by going back to their our own soil. Why does this school still oper- every one of these other officers would countries and teaching people what it ate?’’ all of a sudden adopt their view of the is all about as far as decent human Mr. Chairman, those who oppose clos- world, their view of so-called human rights for people. ing the School of the Americas defend rights, their view of what is right and I just wish I had more time to par- it as a haven for human rights protec- wrong in the world, their view of what ticipate in the debate, but I hope ev- tors. The inversion of meaning is an we must do in the world? I do not think erybody comes over here and votes ongoing problem in political philoso- so. against this ill-conceived amendment. phy. It is something that the writer, The fact of the matter is, Mr. Chair- Mr. BARR. Mr. Chairman, I thank George Orwell, well understood where man, that the School of the Americas the distinguished gentleman, who wrong becomes right and worse be- provides a very valuable tool not only knows whereof he speaks. comes the better reason and where for this country to influence foreign of- Finally, Mr. Chairman, let me men- murderers and rapists become human ficers in a positive way as we have tion the whole process here is rather rights protectors. heard from opponents of this measure bizarre. We see the folks on the other The CHAIRMAN. The time of the today already, but it also provides an side saying, well, because these people gentleman from Ohio [Mr. KUCINICH] important outlet for the yearnings went to the School of the Americas and has expired. that these foreign officers have to sometime in the future, after that (By unanimous consent, Mr. KUCINICH learn about this country and what we point, they committed these bad acts, was allowed to proceed for 2 additional do that is so good that these other therefore we must close the doors of minutes.) folks herald and then break down. the School of the Americas. There are, Mr. Chairman, other coun- Mr. KUCINICH. Where wrong be- How preposterous. Should we search tries more than willing to step into the comes right, where worse becomes the out and close the doors of every school breach should we retreat. Communist better reason and where people who in the United States of America be- China; now there is a country with a have murdered become human rights cause one of them may have produced stellar human rights record. They are protectors. at some point in time a Ted Bundy or already obtaining a foothold in Latin Well, I think the American people are somebody else that goes out and com- America. Perhaps they would step into well aware of the record of the School mits an act? Blaming the school for the the breach and create a School of the of the Americas. We owe it to them, bad acts of its graduates in this in- Americas. and we owe it to the memory of Sister Would that make the do-gooders stance is ill-conceived. Dorothy Kazel, the other nuns, the Jes- happy? Perhaps, I do not know. Some This is nonsense, Mr. Chairman, and uit priests, the civilians who have been other country, perhaps Cuba, would it ought to be defeated. murdered, and to everyone else who step into the breach wanting to in- The CHAIRMAN. The time of the has ever been terrorized by the School crease its influence in Latin America. gentleman from Georgia [Mr. BARR] of the Americas, to see that this school The fact of the matter is, though, Mr. has expired. be shut once and for all. This is the Chairman, somebody would be there to (On request of Mr. BEREUTER, and by Congress of the United States of Amer- step into the vacuum that would be unanimous consent, Mr. BARR was al- ica, and it should not let anyone defile created if we were to suddenly pull out lowed to proceed for 1 additional the name ‘‘America’’ in our own name from the School of the Americas. minute.) on our own soil with our own tax dol- Mr. Chairman, over the years, and Mr. BEREUTER. Mr. Chairman, will lars. Close the School of the Americas. even currently, these officers that are the gentleman yield? Mr. BARR of Georgia. Mr. Chairman, out there fighting for our kids on our Mr. BARR. I yield to the gentleman I move to strike the requisite number streets in the United States of America from Nebraska. of words. are trained, many of them, both di- Mr. BEREUTER. Mr. Chairman, I Oh, the outrage is becoming palpable rectly and indirectly, through the proc- thank the gentleman for yielding. now. The do-gooders are out there. ess of talking with the other graduates Mr. Chairman, the gentleman from Pass out the rose-colored glasses, Mr. who come back to their country, and Ohio just made a very impassioned Chairman. The cold war is over; we are they do teach and they do talk with statement. It is understandable, given hearing that today. their fellow officers. They do learn, and his personal knowledge of a victim. Every American citizen ought to they are equipped, better equipped, But I just would like the gentleman grab up their children, close their with the tools to fight the terrorists. to think about the fact that the non- doors and take out their weapon, if it Now the cold war may be over, but commissioned officers and officers that has not been taken away every time terrorism is not over. The cold war come to this school do not come with a H6744 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 3, 1997 table that has nothing written on it. So I would suggest that to call people guidelines for screening and admitting They come bringing some values them- ‘‘do-gooders’’ or to call them ‘‘namby- students to better avoid students with selves. pamby’’ because we happen to object to records of human rights violations or What we are attempting to do with the fact that thousands of individual who may have tendencies in that direc- the School of the Americas is, in some innocent civilians have been slaugh- tion. cases, a very difficult task of changing tered by the graduates of this second- Number three, the Department of De- the whole culture of a military in a rate institution, is, I think, to do fense completes a comprehensive re- government. If you had visited Guate- something to the dialogue in this port on training activities of the school mala or El Salvador like this gen- House that you ought not to do. and an assessment of the performance tleman in the early 1980’s, you would I would say one other thing: For of the graduates. understand about the progress that has years we have heard every justification These are three things that are in the been made and the great difficulty we dragged up that it is possible to drag bill right now. This amendment is not had in getting the right kind of people up in order to defend the continued necessary. to come to the school in the first place. funding for this institution. Now the The abuses that they are referring to I would just like to suggest we have latest argument we hear is, ‘‘Oh, they that happened are horrible, and I cer- made dramatic progress, and in the ab- are necessary to prevent the drug traf- tainly agree, but they happened many sence this, we are going to have a much fic from succeeding in this hemi- years ago by graduates that would not deeper problem in the hemisphere. sphere.’’ be admitted to the school today. Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I move to Well, I just have to tell you that drug Now, let me say this on a personal strike the requisite number of words. program administrators who cannot basis. I have visited the school. It is Mr. Chairman, I had not intended to run an antidrug program without rely- disturbing, greatly disturbing to me, get into this debate until I heard the ing on this kind of institution ought to that most of the supporters of this previous speaker’s comments, and they find themselves another line of work. amendment have not taken the time to compelled me to say what I am going Mr. KINGSTON. Mr. Chairman, I visit the school. In fact, I would chal- to say now. move to strike the requisite number of lenge my colleagues, if you have been I would much rather be a ‘‘do-good- words. to the school and you support the er’’ than a stand-byer, while a school Mr. Chairman, I appreciate being rec- amendment, when you speak, please let which is supposed to teach American ognized to speak in favor of the School folks know, and tell us about the ter- values instead consistently produces of the Americas. Not everything is per- rorists you saw in the classroom. I am not going to tell you that I graduates who defile the very values fect. Unfortunately, the folks who sup- could tell terrorists from a nonterror- that that institution is supposed to port this amendment are correct in ist sitting in a classroom, Mr. Speaker, support and promote. that in the past there have been grad- but I can tell you this: I talked to I do not mind being called a ‘‘do- uates of this school who have abused young idealistic men and women from gooder’’ at all in comparison to being a human rights and caused all sorts of South America who had lots of ideas on do-nothinger. I also do not mind being pain and suffering. That has been a very, very small mi- democracy, lots of enthusiasm about called ‘‘namby-pamby’’ because I hap- nority of student participants, and the the American system of government, pen to be offended by the fact that, things that they did, they did not learn and lots of enthusiasm for freedom and time and time again, graduates of the at the School of the Americas. They its noble concepts. School of the Americas have engaged certainly were not trained with that I have visited them, and I have in conduct that would make every de- intent by the School of the Americas. talked to the students. It makes a tre- cent American gag. That was many, many years ago. mendous difference in your opinion of If being ‘‘namby-pamby’’ is being op- Some debates, Mr. Speaker, are timely, an institution when you have been posed to instruction manuals on tor- and some debates are timeless. This de- there and talked to the students. ture, if being ‘‘namby-pamby’’ is being bate seems to be timeless in that once If you do not go, maybe if you sup- opposed to the consistently failed the side who opposes the School of the port this amendment, you should make record of this institution in turning Americas has got their point across it a priority to visit it. I would be glad out graduates who understand demo- and the changes have been made, it is to help any of my colleagues who cratic values, if it is being ‘‘namby- time to stop. But, instead, we are con- would like to go down to Columbus, pamby’’ to object to the fact that grad- tinuing year after year, rehashing the Georgia. We could probably get you in uates of this institution have system- same ground, regurgitating the same and out of there in a day. It would atically in a number of countries arguments over and over again. mean so much to the students down around this hemisphere wiped out inno- This debate, rather than being time- there, it would mean so much to the in- cent women and children, then call me less, should be timely, and the time to stitution, and perhaps it could mean a namby-baby. I do not mind it at all. debate it was properly in the early whole lot to the great cause that we You are doggone right, we are op- 1990’s under Secretary Cheney. Under share of freedom. posed to this institution continuing. Secretary Cheney many, many changes Mr. Chairman, I ask Members to This institution has been given the op- were made that threw out some of the please vote against this amendment, portunity year after year after year to offensive materials which the support- and support the School of the Ameri- demonstrate that it can turn out a dif- ers of this amendment keep referring cas. ferent kind of military for Latin Amer- to. Mr. Chairman, I rise in support of the School ica. So far, there is very precious little It is not the case any more. What we of the Americas and in opposition to the evidence that in fact it has done so. are doing is we are debating Model T’s amendment. The gentleman from Nebraska is in the era of 1997 automobiles. It is just Mr. Chairman, it is my understanding that right: What this institution is charged that there is a photograph there. We most of us here do not oppose international with doing is a very difficult thing to are looking at the moving picture here, military training in general. The amendment do. It is very difficult to take people and the moving picture has gone on addresses only the military training provided at from the kind of culture which has pro- and times have changed. Fort Benning because of a negative image, or duced many of them, bring them to But to be on the safe side, the com- stigma, remaining from a relatively very few this country, and in a very short period mittee this year has put in some very problems from the past. This makes this issue of time inculcate the kind of values strong safeguards. One, the Secretary a self-feeding problem to a large extent be- that we would like to see those grad- of Defense must certify that the in- cause the negative stigma is perpetuated by uates represent. struction and training provided by the the very groups who use it as justification to But the fact is that you have to school are fully consistent with train- close the school. make a judgment sooner or later about ing and doctrine provided to U.S. mili- The negative propaganda and baggage that whether that institution has succeeded tary personnel, especially, Mr. Chair- continues to follow the school is just not a or not, and there are a lot of us in this man, regarding human rights. valid argument to shut down the only school of institution who do not think that it Number two, the Departments of De- this kind in the world with such devoted atten- has succeeded. fense and State have improved the tion to teaching professionalism, respect for September 3, 1997 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6745 rule of law and civilian leadership, and human reality. Reality is the story told by the Mr. Chairman, I rise today to support the rights to young officers and soldiers of Latin gentleman from Massachusetts [Mr. Torres-Yates-Foglietta amendment to close America who would not otherwise get this criti- MCGOVERN] as to what happened in El the U.S. Army School of the Americas. cal training. In fact, the School of the Ameri- Salvador at the hands of graduates I want it to be clear that I do not oppose cas provides much more of this kind of train- from the School of the Americas. Re- military to military, or civil military training, but, ing to its students than our own military men ality is what was described by the gen- I believe the school has too many negative im- and women receive. tleman from Ohio [Mr. KUCINICH] as to plications, baggageÐas it wereÐto be an ef- We also often hear lists of human rights what happened to his friends at the fective tool of U.S. foreign policy. abuses committed by Latin American military hands of graduates of the School of the I believe the school to be a relic of the cold personnel who may or may not have received Americas. war. It represents a severely outdated ap- some varying level of training at the School. The fact is that graduates of the proach to a fragile region struggling to attain These casesÐwhile horribleÐare very rare school went forth to engage in activi- real democracy and civilian control of the mili- when compared to the large number of stu- ties that were totally inimical to the tary and should have been closed years ago. dents trained at the school. To close the values of the people and of the Govern- Some members have told me that the Latin school simply because less than one percent ment of the United States. American military respect our Armed Forces of its graduates haven't successfully applied Sure, there are some students who because of the work the school has done over what they've learned is inappropriate, short- are graduates who are good, but they the years. sighted, and counterproductive. are not the ones who were in power in Yes, but what about the civilian population Let me just ask everyone: If the United the countries to which the graduates of Central and South America. What about States set up a program to teach Latin Amer- went. those civilians who refer to the school as the ican militaries to reject repressive behavior, to The impression is given that if you school of assassins. What do they think of the respect human rights, and advance the cause close the school, all training will stop. United States and our military assistance? Are of democracy in our own back yard, would you That is not true. All the universities in we really fulfilling our national security and for- support it? What if it were only 99 percent ef- this country are available for training, eign policy objectives by alienating the civilian fective? That's what we're dealing with in plain and a course can be set forth that will population of Latin America? English. No exaggerations, no distortions, no permit this to be done. I am proud of the young men and women feel-good hype. Why would we throw away the The fact is that this school has serving in our Army, Navy, Air Force and Ma- opportunity to teach hundreds of Latin Amer- failed. Its record is one of failure. The rine Corps. I am proud that their colleagues ican military officers to respect human rights record cannot be dismissed by saying from Latin America think so highly of them. just because a few don't get the message? that critics of that record are do- But, I do not see how closing the School of I challenge all members of this committee to gooders. the Americas will diminish this respect. visit the school before you take active action, Mr. Chairman, I have a letter here Closing the school will not put a halt to mili- such as this amendment, to close it. With all that was received by the National Se- tary contact between our Armed Forces and due respect, I know very few members here curity Archives, the government li- those of Latin America. today, including Mr. TORRES himself, have ac- brary of George Washington Univer- In fact, I believe closing the school will allow tually visited the School down at Fort Benning. sity, dated July 17, 1997, fairly current, for a more rounded education. One where the If it's not possible for you to visit, Colonel signed by the current Ambassador from soldiers of Central and South American coun- Trumbel, the School's Commandant, is avail- the Embassy of Honduras. This is what tries participate alongside their counterparts in able to meet with any Member one on one he said: the U.S. military in the full range of U.S. mili- here in Washington to discuss any and all Thank you for your fax regarding the let- tary training. concerns you may have. I ask that you please ter that was distributed to Members of Con- Closing the school will allow the students to get the facts, investigate the school for your- gress quoting four Latin Americans, includ- become exposed to the total American experi- self rather than relying on second-hand propa- ing myself, on the issue of funding for the ence instead of being isolated in one region of ganda, before you vote to close this school. School of the Americas. our country. What can we do here today to improve the In that letter I am quoted extempo- Additionally, these future leaders will be bet- school? raneously. My statement was geared toward ter prepared to work with, and more impor- The language in the bill regarding the the need to enhance the school’s program to tantly communicate with, our military should deal with today’s challenges, narco-terror- School of the Americas takes major steps to ism, violation of human rights, extreme pov- we become engaged in joint military oper- address remaining concerns of Congress. I re- erty, suitable development, elements I con- ations sometime in the future. mind you that the bill as it currently stands de- sider valid. It would send a clear message to the people nies all funds from the school until: First, the Nevertheless, at the time I made that of Latin America that we care about their civil Secretary of Defense certifies the instruction statement, I wasn’t aware of allegations or and human rights and are trying to support and training provided by the school are fully evidence of the school’s programs that led to their democracies. consistent with training and doctrine provided violation of international human rights. In closing, although I have been an oppo- to U.S. military personnel, especially regarding Otherwise, I would have mentioned my gov- nent of the school for many years, I have at- ernment and I deplore any activities under- tempted to work with the Army and the De- human rights, second, DOD and State have taken there or anywhere else that would en- improved the guidelines for screening and ad- courage officers to carry out violations of partments of State and Defense through the mitting students to better avoid students with international human rights norms. Foreign Operations Subcommittee to resolve records of human rights violations, and third, The negative effect of the school’s aca- the numerous complaints surrounding the cur- DoD completes a comprehensive report on demic programs have, unfortunately, been riculum at the school. training activities of the School and an assess- felt in my country, where at least five mili- I wanted to come to some kind of positive ment of the performance of its graduates. tary officers trained in the school have been resolution to this matter, but, in just the past These are very significant steps to improve requested to come before our courts for vio- year it has become very clear to me that my lation of human rights. any remaining problems. I ask that you sup- The Honduran Government clearly does good faith efforts were to be unrewarded. port the very reasonable compromise lan- not condone any such activities and is op- The committee previously instructed the guage currently in the bill and oppose this posed to any academic program the school Secretary of Defense, in consultation with the amendment. had or has in that regard. I hope this letter Secretary of State, to prepare and submit to Mr. YATES. Mr. Chairman, I move to clarifies our position. the Committees on Appropriations no later strike the requisite number of words. So, Mr. Chairman, I rise in support of than January 15, 1997, a report on the School I rise as a do-gooder to support the this amendment. There is still the op- of Americas at Fort Benning, GA. amendment. portunity for training of worthy stu- Ms. WATERS. Mr. Chairman, I move Mr. Chairman, American values are dents from the Latin American coun- to strike the requisite number of based on doing good for people. That is tries, and they should be given that op- words. the purpose of this bill. This bill pro- portunity for training, but not in the Mr. Chairman, a few moments ago poses to do good for the less fortunate School of the Americas. the gentleman from Ohio started out people of the world and for less fortu- listing the who’s who of human rights b nate nations. 1545 violators in the hemisphere, the My good friend, the gentleman from The record justifies the closing of school’s roster of graduates. I would Nebraska [Mr. BEREUTER], talked about that school. like to continue that for a moment. H6746 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 3, 1997 One hundred of 246 Columbian offi- world? These become our partners in to the School of the Americas today cers cited for war crimes by an inter- crime. Whether it is Noriega or Cedras have brought to the attention of this national human rights tribunal in 1993; or Francois, they were all supported by body some misdoings, some six Peruvian officers involved in the our government while they were deal- wrongdoings that have taken place as a killings of 9 students and a professor in ing dope into our communities. result of some of the graduates return- 1992; Colonel Julio Alpirez, linked to We are sick and tired of you simply ing to their countries and creating the cover-ups and the murders of going out on the street corners of some atrocities, no, no, we do not con- Efrain Bamaca and United States citi- America locking up these young black done that, nor will we ever condone zen Michael DeVine in Guatemala; and Latino males, and even white, with that. ranking officers in notorious Honduran small amounts of drugs. We want to The point is, we are now trying to Battalion 3–16; Argentina dictator stop drugs and the big dope dealers, educate, and this Congress and this Leopoldo Galtieri and Panamanian and those who are allowing their coun- subcommittee has dispatched people to strongman Manuel Noriega. tries to be transshipment points to the school, to Central America, to Let me just stop at this point and say bring drugs into the United States. South America, to make absolutely to my colleagues on the other side of You cannot defend Noriega and Cedras certain that they are taught to respect the aisle, I am absolutely surprised and and these graduates of the School of human rights. When these graduates appalled at the energy that they are the Americas. These are dope dealers return, the percentile in the high nine- expending to defend the School of the who we embraced, that we trained and ties do exactly what we envision that Americas. sent back. they would do. They go back and they I do not know why those who posture What is wrong with the School of the make themselves leaders in their com- themselves as law-and-order policy- Americas? Once they make the contact munities. They respect human rights makers, I do not know why anybody in this country they become our lead- as a result of the education they have who gets up time and again talking ers. They become the people we rely received at Fort Benning. about how tough they are on crime and on. So the debate is not over whether or criminals and human rights violators, The CHAIRMAN. The time of the not we ought to continue teaching peo- would expend so much time and energy gentlewoman from California [Ms. WA- ple to go back and commit atrocities, defending this U.S. Army School of the TERS] has expired. because that is not the debate. That is Americas. (By unanimous consent, Ms. WATERS over with. The Secretary of Defense We know the list of violators who was allowed to proceed for 1 additional must confirm to the Congress before he have been the graduates of this school. minute.) can spend one dime that they are not How can we defend them? It is not Ms. WATERS. Mr. Chairman, we going to teach anybody to go back and enough to say, oh, some of them made train them and we send them back. to do harm to any individual. mistakes, some of them were not right, Then we rely on them. We support I took our subcommittee to Armenia some of them killed some people. What them. Guess what? Members cannot be and to Azerbaijan and to Georgia and are Members talking about? We are concerned about drug dealing and drug to Turkey. On the way back we had talking about people who are trained in trafficking as long as they are support- conversations about, how fortunate we the School of the Americas who go ing the very ones who are dealing the are in this hemisphere. We have wars back to these countries. They become dope back to us. that are taking place between Armenia and Azerbaijan, and happily they are at our direct contacts. These are the ones When are we going to be serious peace right now, trying to work out an we support. We support them in the about a war on drugs? Yes, we may be agreement. We have problems in Cy- leadership of those nations. do-gooders over here, but we are do- I cannot believe that some of the gooders who are challenging Members prus, we have problems in the Middle Members have forgotten about Haiti al- to wake up and smell the roses and East, we have problems in Africa, prob- ready. We spent a lot of hours in this stop this nonsense, and get about the lems in Bosnia, but not one war is tak- ing place in this entire hemisphere. body about trying to right the wrongs business of getting rid of drug traffick- So we are working ourselves into a of Haiti. It took a great threat by the ers. Get rid of the work and manuals position of a peaceful community, President of the United States, ready and training of the School of the Amer- where human rights are respected by to move in with our own military un- icas, and that will go a long way to- all people. less we got rid of the graduates of the ward getting rid of the real dope deal- Ms. WATERS. Mr. Chairman, will the School of the Americas: General ers in this hemisphere. gentleman yield? Cedras, have Members forgotten him I challenge Members today to stop Mr. CALLAHAN. I yield to the gen- already? Have they forgotten Mr. Fran- the nonsense of defense of a school that tlewoman from California. cois in Haiti, who headed the police you can no longer defend. How can Ms. WATERS. Mr. Chairman, I beg to force, a graduate of the School of the Members get up on the floor year in differ with the gentleman. There is a Americas? and year out and say they are going to war going on in this hemisphere. Is the These two gentlemen, if they can be do better, leave them alone for now, gentleman not aware of what is going called that, in Haiti were the ones who give them the American taxpayers’ dol- on in Mexico? Is he not aware of the built the airstrip where the drug run- lars. drug wars that are going on? Is he not ners were able to come in and bring It is shameful, it is unconscionable, aware of the war that is going on their dope into Haiti to be shipped out and Members need to stop it and sup- against our young people in our neigh- to America and other places. These port this amendment. borhoods and our American cities? places on the globe that we are discuss- Mr. CALLAHAN. Mr. Chairman, I I want to tell the gentleman, this is ing are the locations for the trans- move to strike the requisite number of the war. The war is drug trafficking in shipment of drugs right into the United words. this hemisphere that is killing thou- States. Mr. Chairman, while I have great re- sands of people, that is causing our The Congressional Black Caucus has spect for all of the opponents as well as prisons to explode, that is causing peo- made it absolutely clear that getting the proponents of this amendment, let ple to be shot down on the streets of rid of drug trafficking and drugs is our me say that most of the debate is not America. number one priority. We do not take taking place on what the true issue is. It may not be, in the gentleman’s es- kindly to those who would call us do- I do not think there is anyone in this timation, sir, a war, but this is the gooders because we have decided that entire House, this entire body, that most devastating kind of war. This is there must be, at some point in time, a condones human rights violations. I do the worst kind of war. It is the kind of real war on drugs. not think there is a single person on ei- war that we are going to have to come Are Members not tired of the failure ther side of this aisle or either side of to grips with and begin to see it as a of this government to deal with drugs this debate that agrees with some of war. As long as we think we are and the drugs that enter this country? the atrocities that took place. lucky—— Are Members not tired of the relation- That is not the point. The point is Mr. CALLAHAN. Reclaiming my ships we have with the Noriegas of the because some people who are opposed time, Mr. Chairman, I appreciate the September 3, 1997 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6747 gentlewoman’s concern. The definition Mr. Chairman, I would plead with my Ms. PELOSI. I yield to the gentleman of war is maybe something we could de- colleagues to go along with their Com- from Alabama. bate one afternoon when we have more mander in Chief, to go along with the Mr. CALLAHAN. Mr. Chairman, just time. The debate that is taking place Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, to go to briefly say that not only is it in the today is whether or not we are going to along with all of the people in the ad- RECORD, but if this bill passes as it is fund the School of the Americas. ministration that have written to us written, it is in the bill, in the bill on When we have the President of the telling us all of these problems have page 29 where it requires that before United States who sends me a message been addressed, we are moving in the any money can be spent in violation of and tells me, Mr. Chairman, will you right direction. Let us preserve the any of the efforts that my colleagues please continue to fund this; when we perceived peace that we have in this are contending, that the President have the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs hemisphere. must certify that it is not going to be used. It requires further that the De- of Staff, who calls me and says, do b 1600 whatever you can possibly do, because partment of Defense do exactly the this will help to create a peace, this Let us not turn into a hemisphere of same thing. will help to solve the war on drugs that wars. Let us educate our allies, our So, we have for the first time in his- the gentlewoman is talking about; and friends in this hemisphere. Let us con- tory in our bill, under title II on page when we have Mack McLarty call, all tinue this school, teaching democracy, 29, implemented into law the prohibi- of these very distinguished people that teaching human rights, teaching men tions against the teaching of anything the President of the United States has and women how to go back to their re- that would lead to any type of atroc- placed in a position of responsibility, spective countries and to be great citi- ity. pleading with me, a Republican, zens. Ms. PELOSI. Mr. Chairman, reclaim- ‘‘Sonny, go over there and convince Ms. WATERS. Mr. Chairman, will the ing my time, I appreciate the gen- your colleagues to continue to fund gentleman yield? tleman making that statement and for this school, because we have corrected Mr. CALLAHAN. I yield to the gen- the work that the gentleman did to get every problem that they contend ex- tlewoman from California. that language in the bill. But I repeat again that that language in the bill isted. They have made great progress. Ms. WATERS. Mr. Chairman, let me recognizes that there is a problem. To We have done everything this Congress make it absolutely clear that if the those who say, ‘‘What is the problem?’’ has suggested that we do with respect President of the United States wrote to the gentleman from Alabama [Mr. CAL- There is a problem. to this school.’’ Because of the leadership of the gen- The CHAIRMAN. The time of the LAHAN], called, and insisted on funding tleman from Alabama, the bill says gentleman from Alabama [Mr. CAL- the School of the Americas, then I am that, LAHAN] has expired. opposed to the President and the Presi- None of the funds appropriated under this (By unanimous consent, Mr. CAL- dent is wrong. Let me make it abundantly clear heading may be made available to support LAHAN was allowed to proceed for 3 ad- grant-financed military education and train- ditional minutes.) that if Mr. McCaffrey called, he should ing at the School of the Americas unless the Mr. CALLAHAN. Mr. Chairman, we be the first one to understand that it is Secretary of Defense certifies that the in- have done every conceivable thing we a war. His life just got threatened when struction and training provided by the can do to ensure that we do not permit he was down in Mexico among the drug School of the Americas is fully consistent any educational process that would traffickers who sent him a message in with training and doctrine, particularly with lend to the availability of people going no uncertain terms. I think he knows respect to the observance of human rights. it is a war now. Further, that the Secretary of Defense cer- back to their country and creating any tifies that the Secretary of State, in con- human rights violation. Ms. PELOSI. Mr. Chairman, I move sultation with the Secretary of Defense, has Certainly, God forbid, even the Uni- to strike the requisite number of developed and issued specific guidelines gov- versity of Alabama, one of the greatest words. erning the selection and screening of can- educational institutions in the world, Mr. Chairman, I rise in support of the didates for the instruction at the School of has graduated some people, probably Torres amendment and commend him the Americas; and, further, that the Sec- far below the national standard when for his leadership, as well as the leader- retary of Defense submits to the Committee we consider Alabama and California, ship of the gentleman from Massachu- on Appropriations a report detailing the training activities of the School of the but nevertheless, we, too, have prob- setts [Mr. KENNEDY] for his leadership, Americas and the general assessment regard- ably graduated some people who have on this important issue. I commend the ing the performance of its graduates during gone on to perform some heinous acts, gentleman from California [Mr. 1996. but we do not close down the univer- TORRES] for bringing this amendment The reason I part company with my sity. to the floor. chairman at this point is because we Some of our educational institutions Mr. Chairman, we have heard all dif- had the request for this study in last that we revere, such as our academies, ferent points of view about versions of year’s bill and, unfortunately, it took a have had some problems. When they the story of our interpretation of what great deal of time for us to get the re- had their problems, did we say, close the School of the Americas has accom- port back to our committee. Indeed, it down the institution? No, we said, cor- plished. Whatever good it has done, it did not even show up until the day our rect the problems. That is precisely seems that it is more than just a coin- subcommittee was meeting, and I what the President of the United cidence that some of the worst viola- think that that was long overdue. States has done. That is precisely what tors of human rights in this hemi- We asked for a report on ethics to the professionals in Georgia have done. sphere were educated at that school. correct the problems. The report sat in They have corrected it. They are not Mr. Chairman, I think that the gen- DOD for months and was delivered the teaching these subjects that these peo- tleman from Alabama [Mr. CALLAHAN], day of our subcommittee markup. The ple are referring to. We are doing it in our chairman, has made a very fine ef- report itself failed miserably to address a positive manner. fort in the legislation to recognize that our concerns about the school. I know we have not resolved all the there is a problem that still exists at Mr. Chairman, this leaves me no wars on poverty, all of the wars on the School of the Americas, and I was choice but to support this amendment. crime, all of the wars on narcotics, but very pleased to hear the gentleman say I say that with a great deal of respect we are moving in the right direction, in his remarks that not one dime could for our colleagues on both sides of this because we are bringing these people to be spent on the School of the Americas issue. I do want to call to the attention America, we are teaching them the unless the Secretary of Defense con- of our colleagues that a problem exists value of human rights, of civil rights, firmed certain things, which I would and that this solution that the gen- of free elections. We are instructing like to read into the RECORD, because I tleman from California [Mr. TORRES] is them how to go back and be leaders in believe it is time for us to understand advancing is a reasonable one. It takes their community, and we are doing it what the choice is before us today. the leadership of the gentleman from with the only vehicle we have, and that Mr. CALLAHAN. Mr. Chairman, will Alabama [Mr. CALLAHAN] one step fur- is the School of the Americas. the gentlewoman yield? ther. H6748 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 3, 1997 Mr. Chairman, I call this to my and unsatisfactory in light of the re- school. If we want to teach the right message colleagues’s attention. It is a letter sponse that we received, or better yet to help professionalize their militaries, let's from the Jesuit Conference. The Jesuit did not receive from the School of the focus on that mission, and also help them Conference calls for the closing of the Americas, and even a better solution grow their economies and fortify their democ- School of the Americas. It does so be- than calling for the closing of the racies and teach the sanctity of human rights. cause it says: School of the Americas. This is a com- So, as I said at the beginning, we can de- Jesuits know all too personally the vio- promise. This is a smart approach to it. cide today what America will teach the world, lence perpetrated by graduates of the School Mr. Chairman, I urge my colleagues what message our people have to send to our of the Americas. In 1989 six Jesuits, their to support this amendment. And I say neighbors. The mission of this school has housekeeper and her daughter were mur- in good faith to my colleagues, I look flunked. Support the Torres-Yates-Foglietta dered on the campus of the Jesuit University forward to joining them to visit the amendment. in El Salvador. Nineteen of the Salvadoran School of the Americas to help in any Mrs. MALONEY of New York. Mr. Chair- officers whom the United Nations cited for way that we can to promote the edu- man, many of the abuses in Latin America can these murders were graduates of the School be traced back to graduates of the School of of the Americas. This is a celebrated case. cation of people who will promote human rights in this hemisphere. the Americas. However, the death and disappearance of The opposition has circulated dear col- hundreds of ordinary civilians, such as those Indeed, even if the school were to be of the village of El Mozote in Salvador— closed, there are many other institu- leagues highlighting quotes from several Latin American officials, but we have also heard And I visited that location myself. tions where military can be trained to promote human rights values and other from the people. Their voices are smaller and Overwhelm our consciences and elicit out- democratic freedoms. Mr. Chairman, their speeches not as polished, but these are rage at the impunity of the School of the the people who have suffered from this scan- Americas graduates. Their families silently with that I urge my colleagues to sup- know, better than we, the effects of State port the amendment. dalous school and they deserve to be heard. sanctioned terror. Mr. FOGLIETTA. Mr. Chairman, let's decide The fact that there are provisions that call for the Secretary of Defense's approval should Mr. Chairman, that is why I agree here and now what we are going to teach the world. not make us feel secure but suspect. with the statement in the Jesuits’ let- I would hope that we would only fund 50- ter that it is time to send a strong We have so much to say. For little more than two centuries, we have shown the world year-old programs that have already proven message that the United States will no themselves, not ones that need special scru- longer sanction or tolerate militaries the way to true democracy and most of the world has followed. In Denver, last month, our tiny. which declare war upon their own civil- We spend billions of dollars on our defense ian populations. President had the opportunity to show the world's economic leaders the way to the eco- interests, and when that money is used to The CHAIRMAN. The time of the keep our military strong and our troops safe, gentlewoman from California [Ms. nomic boom we are enjoying. That's the central message that our School it is money well spent. But we mock our brave PELOSI] has expired. of the Americas should be teaching. men and women in uniform who work for (By unanimous consent, Ms. PELOSI I am one who believes that instead of the peace and justice in our world when we spend was allowed to proceed for 2 additional enduring message of the School of the Ameri- even one penny on this scandal. minutes.) cas, we should be helping our Latin American The school is not a creative solution to Ms. PELOSI. Mr. Chairman, the neighbors follow the course of Oscar Arias downsizing our military and it is more than just point is that the Jesuits are calling for and Costa Rica, where the people there live a waste of taxpayer dollars. Many graduates the closing of the School of the Ameri- safely, securely, and economically prosperous have been involved in some of the most brutal cas. The gentleman from Alabama [Mr. with no military, with no military. I am con- atrocities in Latin America and it is a national ALLAHAN disgrace and a blotch on our military history. C ] is asking for a study, a good cerned that this school, as it is constituted, en- If we are to support democracy we must faith request for a study and certifi- courages a culture of growing militarism in- stop the killing of those people whose welfare cation. The gentleman from California stead of growing economies. Some of the stu- [Mr. TORRES] splits the difference, and we claim to support and the School of the dents of nations of this school simply cannot Americas must fall into the oblivion it so richly I think it is a very wise proposal. afford its persistent lesson. I am one who be- The amendment of the gentleman deserves. lieves that, when resources are scarce, we Ms. MCKINNEY. Mr. Chairman, 50 years from California just cuts off the fund- should be making more butter, rather than ing that is in this legislation. The ago, the U.S. Army School of the Americas buying more guns. But I respect our disagree- opened its doors in Panama to a class of Latin School of the Americas receives about ment on this issue. $4 million from the U.S. Congress. As American and Caribbean military officers to re- But of course, our neighbors in Latin Amer- ceive training in the art of war. the Chairman knows, $1.2 million ica are sovereign nations and it is within their comes out of foreign operations and the Half a century later it's time to shut the province and power to decide on their own se- school down. rest out of the DOD appropriations bill. curity needs and military training needs. It is Last September, the Pentagon revealed This is not about closing the School good policy, then, to have a modest program what activists opposed to the school have of the Americas. This is about cutting to help their militaries professionalize and be been alleging for yearsÐthat foreign military off this funding. It is about sending a respectful of human rights. The School for the officers were taught to torture and murder to strong message that when we ask for a Americas is not achieving that policy. achieve their political objectives. report, we want it in a timely fashion The lessons we taught in the baddest of According to the Pentagon's own excerpts, and we want it to be appropriate. bad old days of the School of the AmericasÐ School of the Americas students were advised I look forward to visiting, at the in- terrorism, torture, and strong-arm police tac- to imprison those from whom they were seek- vitation of Mr. COLLINS and Mr. BISH- ticsÐwere exactly the wrong ones for our ing information; to ``involuntarily'' obtain infor- OP, the School of the Americas to im- hemisphere. Despite the laudable improve- mation from those sourcesÐin other words, press upon them that Congress does, as ments of our chairman in the bill, I remain torture them; to arrest their parents; to use the gentleman from Alabama says, uni- convinced that this school has no place in the ``motivation by fear''; pay bounties for enemy versally support human rights; that we Americas. dead; execute opponents; subvert the press; do not associate ourselves with or con- Yes, there have been improvements, but not and use torture, blackmail, and even injections done any of the atrocities that have enough. of truth serum to obtain information. been performed by people who are grad- The school still holds 47 weeks of courses These tactics come right out of an SS man- uates of the School of the Americas, on things like psychological operations, com- ual and have no place in a civilized society. but that indeed the terms that the mando missions, and battle tactics, but added They certainly have no place in any course chairman put forth in this bill are only two 2-hour lectures on human rights. taught with taxpayer dollars on U.S. soil by terms that we expect to be met. When our subcommittee asked for a report on members of our own military. Mr. Chairman, this is what we did how the school screens applicants and mon- These practices, which as we know too well last year and they did not come itors graduates, the school showed its dis- have, in fact, been used by graduates of the through. That is what made the Torres respect with a meager 3-page report that was School of the Americas, are part of a totali- amendment necessary. So the choice 6 months late. tarian playbook. They show complete dis- that our colleagues have is the status The Torres-Yates-Foglietta amendment pro- regard for the rule of human law and violate quo, which I believe is unacceptable poses to delete the bill's $815 million for the every tenet of basic human rights. September 3, 1997 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6749 Yet nowhere in this report was there any all along: Latin American military officers were nership for Peace program and for any apology for the horrific misdeeds tied to this taught to intimidate, torture, and kill to achieve future costs attributable to the expan- training. their political objectives. sion of NATO.’’ Nor was there any mention of the poorÐany According to the Pentagon itself, School of Mr. Chairman, many of us are con- mention of all those who have suffered so the Americas students were taught to imprison cerned with recent statements by Mr. much at the hands of those who were taught and execute their opponents. To use motiva- Chirac of France that his nation would to torture and murder by elements within our tion by fear. To subvert the press. And to use be unwilling to contribute to the ex- own Government. torture, blackmail, and truth serum to obtain pansion of NATO. Now, as all my col- What about Archbishop Oscar Romero, information. leagues know, NATO agreed to invite gunned down in cold blood by SOA graduates This is unacceptable. U.S. foreign policy Poland, Hungary, and the Czech Repub- because he stood up for the powerless should not promote these tactics. And they lic into the organization last week in against the powerful? What about the Jesuit have no place in a school funded by our tax Spain. Mr. Chirac is apparently upset priests and their housekeeper and her daugh- dollars and taught by U.S. instructors on U.S. that the nations of Romania and Slove- ter, murdered in El Salvador because their soil. nia will not yet be admitted into NATO hope for the poor clashed with the interests of The United States stands for democracy and is, therefore, threatening not to dictators? What about the four Ursuline nuns, and respect for individual rights. Its foreign pay for this current expansion. ravaged and mutilated and thrown into a ditch policy must always be conducted with a com- Mr. Chairman, I believe it is our re- for the crime of teaching children to read? mitment to these principles. The School of the sponsibility to send Mr. Chirac and our What about the children at El MozoteÐma- Americas violated this fundamental tenet. It is NATO allies in Europe a strong mes- chine gunned by School of Americas alumni time to close down the school for good. sage that they must pay their propor- for the sin of living in the wrong place at the The CHAIRMAN. The question is on tionate share of the defense of Europe. wrong time? the amendment offered by the gen- If they do not, the Congress must look These manuals are the smoking gun. They tleman from California [Mr. TORRES]. at various options in response. One op- provide direct evidence that the school has not The question was taken; and the tion would be refusing the reentry of only failed to serve its mission, but has sub- Chairman announced that the noes ap- France into NATO’s unified military verted its mission. peared to have it. command structure, from which It's time to close down the School of the Mr. TORRES. Mr. Chairman, I de- France unilaterally withdrew in 1966. Americas. mand a recorded vote. Or perhaps we should adhere to a cap Ms. LOWEY. Mr. Chairman, I rise in strong The CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to the in spending on NATO expansion, as support of the Torres amendment, which order of the House of Thursday, July other Members have suggested. Con- would help us close the U.S. Army School of 24, 1997, further proceedings on the gress may even debate whether we the Americas once and for all. amendment offered by the gentleman should force nations that do not pay The School of the Americas has taught from California [Mr. TORRES] will be for the current expansion to incur all some of the most ruthless dictators in Latin postponed. the costs for the next round of NATO America to torture their opponents, censor the AMENDMENT NO. 3 OFFERED BY MR. STEARNS expansion. press, and intimidate their citizens. It must be Mr. STEARNS. Mr. Chairman, I offer In conclusion, Mr. Chairman, what- shut down. But the issue of what to do with an amendment. ever we choose to do in the future, I be- the School of the Americas goes well beyond The CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will des- lieve this is a good amendment for the deplorable actions of the school, and right ignate the amendment. right now that will send a clear mes- to the heart of U.S. foreign policy. The text of the amendment is as fol- sage to certain European allies in The question before us today is whether the lows: NATO that Congress will not allow the United States has the moral responsibility to Amendment No. 3 offered by Mr. United States to continue paying a encourage other governments to respect STEARNS: larger share of Europe’s defense, while human rights and democracy. Are human At the end of the bill, insert after the last other nations opt out of contributing rights and democracy just catch phrases we section (preceding the short title) the follow- their fair share. use, or are they basic principles that we de- ing new section: Mr. Chairman, I yield such time as he mand of every nation? SENSE OF THE CONGRESS REGARDING COSTS OF may consume to the gentleman from We must demand human rights and democ- THE PARTNERSHIP FOR PEACE PRO- Ohio [Mr. TRAFICANT]. GRAM AND NATO EXPANSION racyÐin name and in practiceÐfrom our own Mr. TRAFICANT. Mr. Chairman, I SEC. 572. It is the sense of the Congress military and all of our neighbors. That is why that all member nations of the North Atlan- am glad to be a coauthor with the gen- the School of the Americas is an affront to ev- tic Treaty Organization (NATO) should con- tleman from Florida on this amend- erything that U.S. foreign policy should be tribute their proportionate share to pay for ment. I appreciate the gentleman’s about. That is why we must close this school. the costs of the Partnership for Peace pro- leadership on this issue. Fifty years ago, the School of the Americas gram and for any future costs attributable to Mr. Chairman, the American tax- was opened with the goal of improving U.S. the expansion of NATO. payers have been paying for the protec- ties to Latin American militaries. The idea was The CHAIRMAN. Under the previous tion of the free world and there was a to educate our neighbors to the South about order of the House, the gentleman from time when that was absolutely nec- democratic civilian control of the military. But Florida [Mr. STEARNS] and a Member essary. But we have rebuilt most of Eu- over the last few decades, we started to hear opposed will each control 5 minutes. rope; we brought Japan back to its reports of what was actually being taught The Chair recognizes the gentleman feet. Every time there is a problem, there. Words like torture, beating, and execu- from Florida [Mr. STEARNS]. there is a phone call, 9–1–1 and America tion were increasingly being associated with Mr. STEARNS. Mr. Chairman, I rise sends our young people over to fight the school's courses. to offer an amendment with the gen- and our dollars and our American Ex- Then some of the school's more distin- tleman from Ohio [Mr. TRAFICANT] that press card. guished graduates started to turn up in high simply, frankly, expresses the sense of Mr. Chairman, I believe that Europe positions in Latin American governments. Peo- Congress that all member countries of and NATO members in this expansion ple like Panama's drug-dealing dictator NATO should be responsible for paying should not only pay their fair share, Manuel NoriegaÐnow serving time in a United their fair share for the cost of the Part- they should be paying the bulk of it. States prison on a drug convictionÐand Ro- nership for Peace Program and to fu- We are the major support for freedom berto D'Aubuisson, who organized many of El ture NATO expansion. and we, in fact, ensure that freedom Salvador's notorious death squads. Mr. Chairman, let me read my through a tremendous military appro- In response, many of us have been calling amendment specifically just for those priation. for the school to be shut down and for disclo- Members who wish it to be clarified. It So I stand strong for this, but I just sure of the school's curriculum. Well, we got says that, ‘‘It is the sense of Congress want to tell my colleagues that it is our second wish last year. In September 1996, that all member nations of the North the sense of the Congress. the U.S. Army released portions of a training Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) Now, at some point I am going to manual used at the school during the 1980's. should contribute their proportionate offer a very simple amendment that The manual revealed what we have suspected share to pay for the costs of the Part- will either be stricken by a point of H6750 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 3, 1997 order or it will have to be defeated. But The Chair recognizes the gentleman draws his reservation of a point of the amendment that I plan to offer in from Ohio [Mr. TRAFICANT]. order. conjunction with the efforts here of the Mr. TRAFICANT. Mr. Chairman, this The question is on the amendment gentleman from Florida will say that is the exact language that was placed offered by the gentleman from Ohio none of the funds in this act may be in the defense appropriations bill. [Mr. TRAFICANT]. used to pay for NATO expansion not There is not a chairman of the House The amendment was agreed to. authorized by law. that I have any more respect for. And AMENDMENT NO. 38 OFFERED BY MR. BURTON OF Unless there would be some existing when I offered this amendment origi- INDIANA law that would authorize the use of the nally, the bill was to have been sched- Mr. BURTON of Indiana. Mr. Chair- funds, there could not be an appropria- uled on a particular day and it had not man, I offer an amendment. tion account that could be created to been printed in the RECORD at that The Clerk read as follows: provide NATO expansion funds. time. I printed it in the RECORD in a Amendment No. 38 offered by Mr. BURTON Mr. Chairman, that could be a little timely manner, and it was printed in of Indiana: controversial and I do not want to do the RECORD, and I guess we will have to At the end of the bill, insert after the last that. But my people have paid taxes all now debate the germaneness and section (preceding the short title) the follow- these years and we keep having all of whether or not it is subject to a point ing new section: these accounts, billions and billions of of order. LIMITATION ON ASSISTANCE IN INDIA dollars. I think it is time that these It is straightforward, as it was in the SEC. 572. Not more than $41,775,000 of the countries who benefit from our tax- defense appropriations bill. It should funds appropriated or otherwise made avail- payers’ commitments start to pay not be controversial. This appropria- able in this Act under the heading ‘‘Develop- their fair share. tions bill has taken pains to try and re- ment Assistance’’ may be made available for assistance in India. So, Mr. Chairman, I commend the move authorization from, in fact, its gentleman from Florida, and I am line item. Mr. CALLAHAN. Mr. Chairman, I ask proud to be associated with the gen- The Traficant amendment basically unanimous consent that debate on this tleman. says none of the funds in this bill may amendment be limited to 15 minutes, Mr. STEARNS. Mr. Chairman, I re- be used to pay for NATO expansion not divided between an opponent and pro- serve the balance of my time. authorized by law. This does not tie ponent. Mr. CALLAHAN. Mr. Chairman, I the hands of the appropriators. The ap- The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection rise in opposition to the amendment. propriators could provide whatever to the request of the gentleman from The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman money is necessary, but that money Alabama? from Alabama [Mr. CALLAHAN] is recog- that is provided must have been au- Mr. ACKERMAN. Mr. Chairman, re- nized for 5 minutes. thorized by law. If it was not author- serving the right to object, we have Mr. CALLAHAN. Mr. Chairman, I ized by law, that appropriation cannot several speakers on this side who would have no objection to the substance of appear. like to speak for 5 minutes each. We the amendment offered by the gen- I would like to talk some business think we have three. So we think we tleman from Florida [Mr. STEARNS]. I about NATO here. We talk a good game need 15 minutes on this side. would note, however, that this author- about NATO. Members go home and Mr. CALLAHAN. Mr. Chairman, will ization language should not even be in campaign about all the money our tax- the gentleman yield? our bill. But since the amendment was payers are putting into NATO and how Mr. ACKERMAN. I yield to the gen- made in order under the rule, I will ac- we have got to stop that and let every- tleman from Alabama. cept his amendment, and I yield back body else pay their own way. But when Mr. CALLAHAN. Mr. Chairman, I the balance of my time we come down to the real fine print of will amend my request to say 30 min- Mr. STEARNS. Mr. Chairman, I yield the law, we continue to leave open an utes divided 15 minutes for proponents, back the balance of my time. opportunity for funds to go for NATO 15 minutes for opponents. The CHAIRMAN. All time having ex- expansion. Mr. ACKERMAN. Mr. Chairman, con- pired, the question is on the amend- This is, in my opinion, a strict appro- tinuing my reservation of objection, I ment offered by the gentleman from priations bill. It is germane. It is the yield to the gentleman from New Jer- Florida [Mr. STEARNS]. right thing to do. If it is authorized by sey [Mr. PALLONE]. law, we can give it all the money that Mr. PALLONE. Mr. Chairman, is it b 1615 you want. my understanding there are two The question was taken; and the I want to say one other thing: We amendments or one? Chairman announced that the ayes ap- collect taxes from hard-working peo- Mr. CALLAHAN. Mr. Chairman, if peared to have it. ple. We are paying for troops that are the gentleman will continue to yield, Mr. STEARNS. Mr. Chairman, I de- stationed all over the world, falling out this unanimous consent is on this first mand a recorded vote. of chairs without armrests, regarding amendment, 15 minutes on each side. The CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to the borders in Bosnia and the Middle East. Mr. ACKERMAN. We have three order of the House of Thursday, July We just had a debate on the war on speakers on this side. We have two 24, 1997, further proceedings on the drugs. We have got open borders in Members on the gentleman’s side who amendment offered by the gentleman America. We have yet to in fact have a would like to speak on our time. from Florida [Mr. STEARNS] will be reasonable military program and a re- Mr. CALLAHAN. Mr. Chairman, if postponed. sponsible drug program in this coun- the gentleman will continue to yield, AMENDMENT NO. 79 OFFERED BY MR. TRAFICANT try. But when we are talking about may I suggest to the gentleman, could Mr. TRAFICANT. Mr. Chairman, I NATO expansion, I will go along with not the Members take 4 minutes each offer an amendment. what the rule of Congress is, but I instead of 5? The Clerk read as follows: would say this to the distinguished Mr. ACKERMAN. Mr. Chairman, does that apply to the gentleman from Indi- Amendment No. 79 offered by Mr. TRAFI- chairman of the authorizing commit- CANT: tee: What Congress authorizes for ana as well? At the end of the bill, insert the following NATO expansion should be what is ap- Mr. CALLAHAN. Well, Mr. Chair- new section: propriated for NATO expansion. man, the time limitation applies to the SEC. . None of the funds in this Act may Mr. CALLAHAN. Mr. Chairman, will gentleman from Indiana [Mr. BURTON] be used to pay for NATO Expansion not au- the gentleman yield? as well. If he wants to take all of it, he thorized by law. Mr. TRAFICANT. I yield to the gen- can take all of it. Mr. CALLAHAN. Mr. Chairman, I re- tleman from Alabama. Mr. PALLONE. My question, Mr. serve a point of order against the Mr. CALLAHAN. Mr. Chairman, I Chairman, if the gentleman will con- amendment. withdraw my reservation of a point of tinue to yield, is whether the speakers The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman order, and I accept the amendment. who are speaking against the gen- from Alabama reserves a point of The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman tleman from Indiana’s amendment order. from Alabama [Mr. CALLAHAN] with- would be taking up the time on our September 3, 1997 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6751 side as opposed to the time on the gen- Mr. ACKERMAN. Would the gen- ues to escape the attention of this ad- tleman’s side? tleman from Indiana Mr. BURTON be ministration and this country and Mr. CALLAHAN. Mr. Chairman, it limited by those same restraints as the some Members of the Congress and es- would determine who yielded time to rest of the Members of the House of pecially the media. And that issue in- them. Representatives? volves India and its human rights Mr. ACKERMAN. Mr. Chairman, Mr. BURTON of Indiana. Mr. Chair- abuses and the violations against the what we need on our side for our Mem- man, will the gentleman yield? Sikhs and the Kashmiris and the Chris- bers is 15 minutes on each amendment. Mr. ACKERMAN. I yield to the gen- tians in Nagaland and the plight of the Ms. PELOSI. Mr. Chairman, will the tleman from Indiana. untouchables, the lowest caste in In- gentleman yield? Mr. BURTON of Indiana. Mr. Chair- dia’s caste system. Mr. ACKERMAN. I yield to the gen- man, I think the Rules of the House on Mr. Chairman, the Indian Govern- tlewoman from California. division of time, like this is, the pro- ment is one of the world’s worst human Ms. PELOSI. Mr. Chairman, in light ponents and the opponents have an rights abusers. You may ask, if that is of that and in light of the congres- equal amount of time. true, why does not the world know? It sional schedule with the House going in Mr. ACKERMAN. Mr. Chairman, we is because Amnesty International and at 5 p.m., I think that it is only appro- are trying to work it out equitably so the International Red Cross is not al- priate that we take up one of the Bur- that we can accommodate everybody lowed into the places where they are ton amendments today if we are going who would like to speak. perpetrating these atrocities. to have a time constraint at 15 min- Mr. BURTON of Indiana. Mr. Chair- b 1630 utes, half an hour or 15 minutes; or man, the gentleman has five Members why do we not just go under the 5- against one. I think that is fair odds. In Punjab, in Kashmir, in Nagaland. minute rule until 5 p.m. and end at a But I do not want to give up time. Let me just tell my colleagues, since time certain? Mr. ACKERMAN. Mr. Chairman, I am 1947, over 200,000 Christians have been Mr. CALLAHAN. Mr. Chairman, the sure there are others who would like to killed in Nagaland. I know it is hor- purpose of it is in order that we could agree with the gentleman. rible what is going on in Bosnia, and get through today with the debate on Mr. CALLAHAN. Mr. Chairman, I what has gone on in Bosnia. But 200,000 the Burton amendments, then leave to- withdraw my unanimous consent re- Christians have been killed since 1947 morrow only the Smith and the Gilman quest. by the Indian Government and their amendments for debate. The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman troops in Nagaland since 1947. A quar- Ms. PELOSI. Mr. Chairman, I under- from Alabama [Mr. CALLAHAN] has ter of a million, 250,000 Sikhs, have stand the gentleman’s goal and I think withdrawn the request. been killed in Punjab between 1984 and that is a good try, but clearly there is The Chair recognizes the gentleman 1992, and more since then. Those are more interest in the Burton amend- from Indiana [Mr. BURTON]. the latest numbers we have that we ments, and it appears that with the in- Mr. BURTON of Indiana. Mr. Chair- think are accurate. Fifty-three thou- terest we are only going to be able to man, I read Cyrano de Bergerac as a sand Muslims have been killed in Kash- get through one amendment if we are boy. And when I read Cyrano de mir since 1988. going to abide by the House schedule of Bergerac, at one point in the play he is For the past 15 years, I have been going back in at 5 p.m., so we will have challenged by what he thought were 100 coming to this well to call attention to one more amendment tomorrow if Mr. of the opponents. He was in the bakery Punjab, where the Indian military re- BURTON decides to offer it. shop and his friends came in. There ceives cash bounties for the slaughter Mr. CALLAHAN. Mr. Chairman, my were 100 of the enemy trying to kill his of innocent children and, to justify unanimous consent is then 20 minutes friends. And he said he thought the their action, these people are labeled on each side, and then if there is an ob- lovely Roxanne was in love with him. terrorists, these kids. According to our jection, there is an objection. And he pulled out his sword and he ran own State Department, the United Mr. ACKERMAN. Mr. Chairman, con- to the door and said, only a 100. I do States State Department, India paid tinuing my reservation of objection, 20 not mind if it is five or ten of my col- over 41,000 cash bounties to police for minutes on each side on each amend- leagues against me, as long as we have killing innocent people from 1991 to ment, 20 minutes on each side? a fair distribution of the time. I feel 1993 alone. Also in Punjab, Sikhs are The CHAIRMAN. Does the gentleman kind of honored that I would be put in picked up in the middle of the night from New York continue to reserve the the same category as Cyrano de only to be found floating dead in canals right to object or does he withdraw his Bergerac. with their hands and feet bound to- reservation? Let me get to the point of the debate, gether, and there is documentation to Mr. ACKERMAN. Mr. Chairman, con- talking about on this particular issue. that fact, and many are never found. tinuing my reservation of objection, I Mr. Chairman, we talk about trage- Recently India’s Central Bureau of yield to the gentleman from New Jer- dies and human rights violations all Investigation, the CBI, told the Su- sey [Mr. PALLONE]. over the world. Right now, in the news preme Court that it had confirmed Mr. PALLONE. Mr. Chairman, when today, they were talking about digging nearly 1,000 cases of unidentified bodies the gentleman says ‘‘on our side,’’ I un- up possibly hundreds, maybe thousands that were cremated by their military. derstand there are several Republican of bodies in Bosnia. And that is a trag- They just happened to find 1,000 bodies Members who want to speak against edy. That is something we should be and burned them up. Where did they the amendment. If that 20 minutes is very concerned about because human come from? I submit they came from limited to everyone who wants to rights violations, wherever they occur, the same source that I was talking speak against the amendment, we prob- should be brought to the attention of about just a moment ago, from the In- ably do not have enough time, unless I the world and should be stopped. dian troops in Kashmir and Punjab and am missing something. We reprimand China for its draconian Nagaland. Mr. STEARNS. Mr. Chairman, will abortion policies and we threaten to It does not get any better in Kash- the gentleman yield? stop international military and edu- mir. Women, because of their Muslim Mr. ACKERMAN. I yield to the gen- cational training, IMET, from Indo- beliefs, are taken out of their homes in tleman from Florida. nesia for abuses in East Timor. We talk the middle of the night and are gang- Mr. STEARNS. Mr. Chairman, we about the struggles in Bosnia, Croatia, raped by Indian troops while their hus- have two on this side that I know of. and Serbia that I just alluded to. We bands are forced to stay in the House How many does the gentleman have on even criticize longstanding allies like at gunpoint. This is a fact. This is not that side? Turkey for its treatment of its Kurdish just me talking. It is a fact. Mr. ACKERMAN. Mr. Chairman, we citizens without addressing the brutal It was hoped that the new govern- have three that we know of. murders carried out by the PKK, a ment in Delhi and Punjab would stop Mr. STEARNS. Mr. Chairman, so we Kurdish Marxist terrorist organization. the repression which the Indian Su- could do it in 25 minutes, 4 minutes Unfortunately, Mr. Chairman, there preme Court describes as worse than a each. We could do it in 20 minutes. is one human rights issue that contin- genocide. The Indian Supreme Court H6752 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 3, 1997 describes what is going on as worse I do not mind that. We should not sup- tion because of that? That is nothing than a genocide. port a government that condones wide- but India bashing, Mr. Chairman. Do Mr. Chairman, opponents will say spread abuses with our tax dollars. All we condemn our own Government be- that the recent election in Punjab of a I am asking for is to send a signal. Cut cause people put a bounty on people’s Sikh-dominated coalition and the fact 25 percent of the development aid we heads in Arizona and people moved in that an untouchable is now the Presi- are sending to India. We probably and murdered them? Is that the fault dent of India is evidence of the new should not be sending it there anyhow, of the whole American Government democratic process. But I can tell my any of it. But at least cut 25 percent to and the American people? colleagues that this new government in send a very strong signal that we do I would like to cite an article that Punjab is closely aligned with the au- not support a government that allows appeared in the Hill newspaper. It is a thoritarian Prime Minister Gudjaral of those human rights abuses to take quote by a gentleman of the House who India and India’s untouchable Presi- place. shows an unbelievable amount of un- dent is merely a figurehead. Mr. Chairman, the Sikhs, the Mus- derstanding when talking about the Mr. Chairman, would democracies lims, the Christians, the untouchables, Government of Turkey and he says, continue the rampant campaign of and the women of India are desperately ‘‘When you have military conflicts,’’ genocide? There are 550,000 troops, In- looking to this Congress for help. The and the gentleman here is talking dian troops in Punjab and 550,000 In- time has come for action. It is time for about insurgencies taking place dian troops in Kashmir. America to take a stand and to pass against existing governments, he says, The CHAIRMAN. The time of the this amendment. ‘‘When you have military conflicts, gentleman from Indiana [Mr. BURTON] Mr. Chairman, the Clinton adminis- you’re bound to have unfortunate has expired. tration has requested $56 million this things happen,’’ he said. Continuing (By unanimous consent, Mr. BURTON year for development aid to India. the quote, ‘‘People get killed, they’re of Indiana was allowed to proceed for 5 India already receives $51 million. That bombed and shot. These things hap- additional minutes.) means a $4.5 to $5 million increase from pen,’’ he said understandingly and jus- Mr. BURTON of Indiana. Mr. Chair- last year. My amendment would not tified, ‘‘incidental and anecdotal things man, people are afraid to go outside at allow more than $42 million to go. That that happen during these times of con- night and they worry about that knock is a 25-percent cut. That is a fair fig- flict.’’ Who was the gentleman who on the door that we remember back ure, and it sends a strong signal. said that, so understanding of the Gov- during the horrible perils of Hitler in I would like to point out one more ernment of Turkey? It is the very same World War II when the Jews were thing. We have here a picture, and this gentleman from Indiana who just took taken out in the middle of the night, is the latest picture of what is going on the well and offered this amendment. never to be seen again. That is going in India. This is the tortured body of How can he justify it in the case of one on today in Punjab and Kashmir and an unidentified Sikh. The Indian police country and oppose it when it comes to Nagaland in India. It is not the Indian have literally scalped this man. It is a another country? people. We are not taking issue with young fellow, the police have seared his The gentleman offers up four amend- the Indian people. It is the repressive body with a hot iron rod and they cut ments. Dr. Alukh mysteriously appears policies of the Indian military and the off his fingers. That is what is going on in the Halls of the House, in the gal- Indian government. today and that is what my colleagues lery, it happens each and every time, On July 12, 1997, just about a month are going to be saying does not occur. and the India bashing begins. This, Mr. ago, a month and a half, in Bombay, 33 But I am telling Members it is here, it Chairman, is totally unacceptable. Dalits, those are called black untouch- is happening. Women are being gang- This is not the way two great democ- ables that I would say to my friends in raped in Kashmir because they are racies view each other or treat each the Black Caucus, they ought to listen Muslim and they know if they are de- other. The gentleman complains of to this, black untouchables, were killed filed, they will not be married, because human rights abuses, but he ignores by the Indian police during demonstra- of their religion and they take them the genuine progress that India has tions. Thirty-three of them were killed. out and gang-rape them and hold their made on this question. According to On July 8, 1997, 36 people were killed in husbands inside. It is a horrible thing the State Department report which he a train bombing in Punjab and 2 min- that is going on over there and we keep only quotes in part, it says ‘‘India isters of the Punjab government have giving aid to this country. This coun- made further progress in resolving blamed the Punjab police. The bombing try has not been a friend of the United human rights problems.’’ The same re- occurred a day after 9 policemen were States in the past. During the cold war port notes that newspapers and maga- convicted of murder. Nine policemen they supported the Soviet Union. They zines ‘‘regularly publish investigative were convicted of murder a day after do not vote with us in the United Na- reports and allegations of government this bombing occurred. tions. Yet we continue to give them wrongdoing, and the press as a whole On March 15, 1997, a death squad support. We ought to send a signal to champions human rights and criti- picked up Kashmir Singh, an opposi- them, at least on this one issue. cizes’’ whenever there is a government tion party member. He was thrown in a Human rights violations, for God’s lapse. Beyond this, the Indian Govern- van, tortured and murdered. Finally sake, should not be tolerated anyplace ment has appointed a National Human his bullet ridden body was dumped on in the world, and it is going on by the Rights Commission with powers to in- the roadside. These military forces op- hundreds of thousands over there. We vestigate and to recommend policy erate beyond the law and with com- need to send them a signal. changes and punishment and com- plete impunity and the world does not Mr. ACKERMAN. Mr. Chairman, I pensation in cases of incidental police know because they will not let human rise in opposition to the amendment. abuse wherever it might happen to rights groups in there, they will not let Mr. Chairman, the previous speaker, take place. Again in the State Depart- the international Red Cross in there, the gentleman from Indiana, asked the ment report that the gentleman quoted they will not let TV in there because question, who will speak for the people only in part, ‘‘The NHRC continued to they do not want the world to see. We who are the victims of violence in Pun- enlarge its useful role in addressing the heard about Bosnia, we heard about So- jab and Kashmir and other places. Let patterns of abuse, as well as specific malia, we heard about Ethiopia when me assure the gentleman that I do and abuses.’’ Mengistu was there, but we do not hear we all do because we decry violence and In particular, the gentleman from In- about what is going on over there be- we decry the abuses of human beings diana [Mr. BURTON] is concerned about cause they will not let us in. anywhere for any reason. But what the human rights in the states of Punjab The Indian lobby has a lot of friends gentleman seeks to do is to punish an and Jammu and Kashmir. Last year in the Congress who are going to be entire nation, the largest democracy in there was an election in Punjab where their spokesmen today and they will be the world collectively, for random acts 65 percent of the eligible voters turned speaking up for them. I presume I will of a few that take place. He brings us out in a Sikh-dominated government. be the only one speaking for the people one picture and cites hundreds of thou- This is the very minority that the gen- in Kashmir, Punjab and Nagaland, but sands. How do we condemn a whole na- tleman from Indiana [Mr. BURTON] September 3, 1997 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6753 claims the Indian Government op- I just want to say, in the past the dian State of Punjab. Earlier this year presses. There were also elections in gentleman from Indiana has criticized the people of Punjab held elections in Kashmir which restored elected gov- India on human rights. Let me give my which the Sikh-dominated Akali Dal ernment there for the first time in 6 colleagues some information. The inde- Party was swept into power. Voter years. pendent National Human Rights Com- turnout was 67 percent, better than we I think, Mr. Chairman, what we have mission with unprecedented powers has generally do here in the United States discovered, with the unwitting help of been in operation now for 3 years. in most of our elections. the gentleman from Indiana, is that Some of the members have been here to In the Punjabi capital of Chandigarh, India is a fully functioning, mature de- talk to us as Members of our House of I met with the newly elected Chief mocracy with a free press, with civilian Representatives. The commission has Minister of the State of Punjab, Mr. control of the military, with an inde- been lauded by many international Prakash Singh Badal. He is a staunch pendent judiciary, and very active po- agencies, including our own State De- defender of the Sikh people, but he is litical parties and civic associations. It partment, for its aggressiveness and also deeply committed to working seems to me that the oldest democracy independence. The chairman of India’s within India’s democratic political sys- in the world should not be sanctioning National Human Rights Commission tem to advocate the political, eco- the largest. That is not the way democ- has met with representatives of Asia nomic, and social interests of his state racies treat each other. Watch, Amnesty International and the and of the Sikh people. In addition to India’s thriving demo- International Red Cross. The steps He expressed his rejection of the sep- cratic institutions, the current united taken by India to remedy human rights aratist movement which has caused so front government led by Prime Min- much violence in recent years. His gov- ister Gudjaral has pledged, as has the problems is far superior to any of the erning coalition includes a predomi- finance minister with whom the gen- efforts of India’s neighbors, in particu- lar, Pakistan and China which I think nantly Hindu party, an indication that tleman from New York [Mr. GILMAN] the Indian people want to work across and myself met with only a week ago, the gentleman from Indiana men- ethnic and religious lines for the bet- has pledged to continue the economic tioned. terment of their entire society. This is reforms of the past 6 years. These re- b 1645 the reality in today’s Punjab. This is forms have provided enormous opportu- Now, Mr. Chairman, the gentleman the reality in today’s India. Everyone nities for United States business and, from Indiana is suggesting that his is working together to try to improve in fact, the United States is now In- amendment would put pressure on the the situation. Human rights violations dia’s largest overseas investor, its big- Government of India to improve its gest trading partner and its preferred are being fettered out. record on human rights. In fact, if this Mr. Chairman, the gentleman from source of high-technology. amendment were to become law, it Mr. Chairman, this amendment is a Indiana’s statements are not based on would greatly reduce America’s ability deliberate and specific attempt to stig- the accurate information of India to positively influence the Indian Gov- matize India at a point where the rela- today. ernment in any way. Punitive meas- tionship between the world’s two great Mr. DAVIS of Illinois. Mr. Chairman, ures like this amendment only serve to democracies has flowered. I urge all of the people of India have just celebrated isolate the Indian Government, give my colleagues to stand and to defeat their 50th anniversary of independence aid and comfort to political forces in this amendment. and democracy. It takes a special ef- Mr. PALLONE. Mr. Chairman, I India who oppose closer ties with the fort for Americans to imagine when move to strike the last word. United States, and ultimately set back our democracy was only 50 years old Mr. Chairman, I listened to the com- the process of political and economic and the great hurdles we had to over- ments by the gentleman from Indiana. reform in India. come to perfect our legal, political, I do not know if he is going to be the Mr. Chairman, I am concerned that economic, and social system. only speaker in favor of the amend- this debate over human rights in India India today is the world’s largest de- ment. I certainly hope he is. But if he is focusing entirely on one side of the mocracy—950 million people. India is a is the only one, it is because he is basi- issue, and what is lost is the fact that multireligious, multiethnic society ac- cally giving the House outdated, exag- terrorist organizations operating with- tively seeking to build a common na- gerated, and inaccurate information in India’s borders pose a constant ongo- tional identity and overcome religious about the situation in India. He said ing threat to peace, stability and, yes, and ethnic conflict. In that half cen- that India is not a friend of the United to human rights. tury India has struggled to overcome States. Just the opposite is true. India Militant separatist groups often op- the legacy of feudalism followed by co- is the world’s largest democracy. India, erate with no accountability. Calling lonialism and all of the problems of last year, had the largest democratic themselves freedom fighters, these or- underdevelopment and unequal devel- election, the largest number of people ganizations reserve onto themselves opment, including problems of popu- participating in a democratic process the right to strike at civilian targets lation growth, capital formation, tech- in the history of the world as far as we in India with impunity. Furthermore, nology development, and infrastruc- know. He talks about the signal that many of the militant organizations re- ture. They have shaped all of the basic this might send. What signal is sent by ceive support, both moral and finan- institutions of a democratic system in- this body if we were to pass an amend- cial, as well as arms and training, from cluding, perhaps most significantly, ment that chastises the world’s largest other nations, specifically Pakistan many independent, nongovernmental democracy, a country that seeks every which has frequently been linked to institutions and organizations dedi- day to be our friend more and more, terrorist organizations in India in a di- cated to involving and empowering and which at the same time over the rect attempt to destabilize its neigh- people. last few years has established a Na- bor, and under these conditions impos- I rise here today in support of aid to tional Human Rights Commission that ing punishment by this House on the India. Throughout my public career, I has been seeking out any violations of Government of India will have the un- have worked with the Asian-Indian human rights, that has brought people mistakable effect of encouraging and community. to trial, that probably now sets an ex- emboldening these groups which seek My strong relationship with the ample not only for South Asia and for by violent means to pursue their sepa- Asian-Indian community in Chicago Asia but for the rest of the world in ratist agenda. This is not the type of has afforded me the opportunity to terms of its going after and fettering behavior that this House of Represent- meet with Indian officials who have out human rights violations. It would atives should be condoning. visited Chicago and this interaction send a terrible signal to the rest of the I visited India earlier this year, Mr. has helped me to understand how im- world if this body, the greatest democ- Chairman, and I had the opportunity to portant democracy, economic develop- racy in the world, if this House of Rep- see firsthand why this amendment ment, and human rights are to India. resentatives, were to chastise India for would be a disaster. First, my col- While the cold war no longer exists, the things that it has accomplished in league from New York [Mr. ACKERMAN] our relations with South Asia must not the last few years. talked about the situation in the In- be tainted by the cold war legacy. H6754 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 3, 1997 There is a constant state of tension tenure as Minister for External Affairs, has amendment would directly undermine the stat- with neighbors like China and Paki- been at the forefront of initiatives to improve ed objectives of India's democratically elected stan—who have large and powerful bilateral relations between India and its neigh- Prime Minister to improve the living conditions militaries. Several states in India in- bors Bangladesh, Nepal, and Sri Lanka. of the country's poorest citizens. And finally, cluding Punjab and Kashmir have, in There also has been an important break- this amendment would be an enormous blow essence, been involved in a low-inten- through this year in improving bilateral rela- to United States-Indian relations at the very sity war involving terrorism with for- tions between India and Pakistan, a major moment when we should be strengthening ties eign support as evidenced by the recent goal of United States foreign policy in South between our two democracies. bombing of a train in Punjab resulting Asia. In March, the Prime Minister of each Last year, India held a critical and historic in 36 deaths. Despite the difficulties, country agreed to resume high-level talks electionÐ300 million people went to the polls India has proven that she will not tol- which had been cut off since 1994. I was in what the New York Times' William Safire erate violations of democracy and has pleased that Prime Minister Gujral took the ini- called ``the most breathtaking example of gov- acted to punish those guilty of viola- tiative to embark on such discussions so soon ernment by people in the history of the world.'' tions of law and to reduce any such after assuming office. The two Prime Ministers The world's most populous democracy violations in the future. met during the Asian summit in May of this proved that its most powerful weapon is the The United States has become India’s year and agreement has already been ballot, not the bullet. largest trading partner—now approach- reached on the establishment of working We must not pass a punitive anti-India ing $9.5 billion per year—and her larg- groups to explore solutions to the outstanding amendment on the heels of this election. est investor. India has adjusted her tax disputes between the two countries. Instead of United States-India relations are strong. policies to further encourage trade and undermining this important progress, U.S. for- American businesses are flourishing in India. has become a significant player in eign policy ought to be aimed at extending Let's send the world's most populous de- many fields including computer support for and encouraging the efforts being mocracy the right message. science. made by the prime minister of each nation to Let's vote for progress in India. Yet India is still a country in need of seek solutions to longstanding bilateral dis- Let's vote for democracy. assistance and development especially putes. I urge a ``no'' vote on the Burton amend- in the most underdeveloped regions Far from withdrawing from our growing co- ment. needing assistance with health and operation and increasingly improving relations Mr. HASTINGS of Florida. Mr. Chairman, I educational programs. These programs with India, as the Burton amendment would rise in opposition today to the amendment of- involve financial and technical support have us do, now is the time for the United fered by my colleague from Indiana. I must from the United States which is States to deepen its commitment to strength- admit that I fail to understand why this es- matched by volunteer equity on the ening relations between our two countries. As teemed Member, who has not even taken the part of the people of India. These pro- we commemorate the 50th anniversary of In- time to travel to India to see her progress first gram have proven themselves to be dia's independence this year, United States hand, insists on demonizing an important ally. successful in addressing the problems relations with India should move forward, not I was fortunate, over the August recess, to of underdevelopment and also as pow- backward. I urge all Members to vote against join Chairman GILMAN on a House Inter- erful instrument of international un- this amendment. national Relations Committee Codel to Asia. derstanding, communication, and Mrs. MALONEY of New York. Mr. Chair- We were in India on the 50th anniversary of trust. man, I rise against the Burton amendment, her independence. I saw first hand India's It makes sense to continue our com- which would limit development assistance to thriving democracy, independent, nongovern- mitment to India. India is proving a India. mental institutions, a raucous free press, an success in its economic development Mr. Speaker, it is 1 year later and we are independent judiciary, a welcoming, albeit sus- and is a role model for other developing still fighting the same fight. We defeated a picious economic sector, and a friendly, Eng- countries. We can take this oppor- similar amendment last year by an overwhelm- lish-speaking people who are schooled in tunity now to improve our foreign pol- ing marginÐ296 to 127. democratic values and who both value and I am proud to be a member of the Congres- icy relations with India. We can illus- demand their personal liberties. I saw a coun- sional India Caucus, and was pleased to travel trate how the United States is a reli- try of almost a billion people virtually begging to India recently. for closer ties and friendship with the United able friend and model. On August 15, we celebrated India's 50th A vote against India in this House, is States. anniversary of democratic self rule. Passage not in the best interest of the United I realize that India is not perfect. I continued of this amendment will have a devastating ef- States and its reputation as a world to be concerned with India's nuclear prolifera- fect on the growing relationship between India leader. Therefore, I urge that we op- tion, human rights abuses, strife in Kashmir, and the United States. pose any and all amendments that The United States is now India's largest and the occasional lack of hospitality toward would single out India for a limitation overseas investor and its biggest trading part- foreign investment and infrastructure-building on development assistance. ner. projects. Mr. GEPHARDT. Mr. Chairman, I rise in Since 1991, major Fortune 500 companies But as I have said many times in the past, strong opposition to the Burton amendment. have invested in India. The Commerce De- we can have more influence using a carrot Since its independence 50 years ago, India partment has designated India as one of the with the Indians than with a stick. Considering has made tremendous progress in a number most important ``Big Emerging Markets.'' some of the other countries in the region with of key areas of United States foreign policy in- Mr. Speaker, American businesses recog- whom we are seeking better ties, India looks terest. First of all, it shares with the United nize the importance of a strong relationship like a bargain to me. Oppose the Burton States the values and institutions of free and with India. amendment. democratic nations. Just last year, India held The gentleman from Indiana appears to Ms. CLAYTON. Mr. Chairman, I rose before the largest democratic election in world his- have a noble purposeÐto focus the attention this committee over a year ago and I now tory, an election that was universally regarded of the House on human rights abuses. But de- stand before you today, once again to strongly as free and fair, was contested by multiple po- spite his intentions, the amendment will do urge a vote against this amendment. litical parties, and was scrutinized by an exten- great harm to the very people it purports to The Burton amendment, whether it freezes, sive free press. help. cuts, or caps foreign assistance to India, is a Since the end of the cold war, India has em- Yes, India has had problems with human step in the wrong direction. The new Govern- barked on an ambitious program of economic rights in the past. But this nationÐthis great ment of India is moving at a rapid pace to liberalization and market reforms. These re- democracyÐhas taken exceptionally strong strengthen its ties with the United States and forms have helped bring the United States and steps forward. the world. India closer together in a cooperative spirit In fact, India's Human Rights Commission, The economic and diplomatic relationship and have helped the United States to become headed by a former Supreme Court Justice, between the United States, the world's oldest India's largest trading partner. has been hailed by the State Department for democracy, and India, the world's largest de- In addition to progress at home, India also its ``significant progress in resolving human mocracy, would receive a harmful blow with continues to improve its relations with its rights problems.'' successful passage of this amendment. neighbors. Over the past year, Prime Minister Freezing developmental assistance would Mr. Chairman, Government of India has Gujral, in an outreach effort begun during his hurt the poorest of the poor in India. The been on a constant pace of change since September 3, 1997 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6755 1991. The 1996 election featured the world's Mr. ACKERMAN. Reserving the right MOTION TO INSTRUCT OFFERED BY MR. SERANNO largest voter turnout, practically free of vio- to object, Mr. Speaker, is it my under- Mr. SERRANO. Mr. Speaker, I offer a lence. The 1997 election featured the victory standing that under the two Burton motion to instruct conferees. of Prime Minister I.K. Gujral, who is of Punjabi amendments there is no limitation on The Clerk read as follows: descent, the very region that Mr. BURTON the time? We will be under the 5- Mr. SERRANO moves that the managers on claims human rights violations are taking minute rule? the part of the House at the conference on place. Mr. CALLAHAN. Mr. Speaker, will the disagreeing votes of the two Houses on the bill H.R. 2209, be instructed to agree to On the subject of the State of Punjab, the the gentleman yield? the position in Senate amendment numbered Sikh minority dominated the ruling party in Mr. ACKERMAN. I yield to the gen- 1 with respect to the account ‘‘Joint Com- open democratic elections. Voter turnout was tleman from Alabama. mittee on Taxation’’ providing not more 65 percent. Mr. CALLAHAN. Mr. Speaker, the than a 4.64 percent increase for the Joint Prime Minister Gujral, in his first month of gentleman is correct. Committee on Taxation compared to an 8 leadership, engaged in direct talks with newly Mr. ACKERMAN. Mr. Speaker, I percent increase in the House bill. elected Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif of Paki- withdraw my reservation of objection. The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- stan. A hotline phone system was established Mr. BURTON of Indiana. Reserving ant to the rule, the gentleman from in a commitment to bring peace to the two na- the right to object, Mr. Speaker, I just New York [Mr. SERRANO] and the other tions. wanted to double check amendments 38 gentleman from New York [Mr. WALSH] So let us as Members of Congress not view and 40. Now 38 is the one that we are will each control 30 minutes. the Government of India as being callous to on? The Chair recognizes the gentleman these alleged human rights violations. India Mr. CALLAHAN. Mr. Speaker, will from New York [Mr. SERRANO]. has made great strides in their battle to bring the gentleman yield? Mr. SERRANO. Mr. Speaker, I yield together the States of Kashmir, Jammu, Mr. BURTON of Indiana. I yield to myself as much time as I may Nagaland, and Punjab. the gentleman from Alabama. consume. Recent reports by the U.S. State Depart- Mr. CALLAHAN. Mr. Speaker, that is Mr. Speaker, my motion would sim- ment declare that India has ``made further the one we are on now, and 40 is the ply direct the House conferees to do progress in resolving human rights problems.'' one the gentleman from Indiana indi- the fiscally responsible thing when we It would be false and misdirected to say that cated he wanted to introduce. take up the funding level for the Joint India is not our friend. U.S. business in India Mr. BURTON of Indiana. Mr. Speak- Committee on Taxation and agree to has grown at an astonishing rate of nearly 50 er, I thank the gentleman from Ala- the Senate position. The Senate bill percent a year since 1991, with the United bama. would give the Joint Committee on States becoming India's largest trading partner Mr. Speaker, I withdraw my reserva- Taxation a tidy 4.6-percent increase over last year. We think that it is more and largest investor. tion of objection. than fair. As India prepares to celebrate its 50th anni- The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there The House bill, in my view, was over- versary of democratic self rule, let us not objection to the request of the gen- ly generous in providing an 8-percent break the ties that we have so diligently tleman from Alabama? increase for this office. In comparison, strived to assemble. Vote ``no'' on the Burton There was no objection. in the name of fiscal discipline, both amendment. f bills provide increases of only 3.6 per- Mr. CALLAHAN. Mr. Chairman, I cent for the operation of the House and move that the Committee do now rise. VACATING REQUEST FOR RE- less than 2 percent for such vital agen- The motion was agreed to. CORDED VOTE ON BEREUTER cies as a Congressional Budget Office Accordingly, the Committee rose; AMENDMENT TO H.R. 2159, FOR- and the Government Printing Office and the Speaker pro tempore (Mr. EIGN OPERATIONS, EXPORT FI- [GPO]. The House bill actually cuts SNOWBARGER) having assumed the NANCING, AND RELATED PRO- funding for the General Accounting Of- chair, Mr. THORNBERRY, Chairman of GRAMS APPROPRIATIONS ACT, 1998 fice by $8 million below last year. the Committee of the Whole House on In light of these funding levels, it is the State of the Union, reported that Mr. BEREUTER. Mr. Speaker, I ask inappropriate and inconsistent to turn that Committee, having had under con- unanimous consent to vacate the re- around and reward one office with an 8- sideration the bill (H.R. 2159) making quest for a recorded vote on the Bereu- percent increase. Moreover, the jus- appropriations for foreign operations, ter amendment, Number 53, on H.R. tification for this increase does not export financing, and related programs 2159. stand up to any reasonable level of for the fiscal year ending September 30, The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there scrutiny. I think the American people 1998, and for other purposes, had come objection to the request of the gen- could question why we would increase to no resolution thereon. tleman from Nebraska? the staff of this office the year after f There was no objection. work is completed on a major tax bill, The SPEAKER pro tempore. Without especially when at the same time we FURTHER LIMITATION OF AMEND- objection, the amendment offered by MENTS DURING FURTHER CON- are cutting GAO whose main purpose is the gentleman from Nebraska [Mr. BE- SIDERATION OF H.R. 2159, FOR- to look for wasteful Federal spending REUTER] prevails by voice vote. and save taxpayers money. If the exist- EIGN OPERATIONS, EXPORT FI- There was no objection. NANCING, AND RELATED PRO- ing staff of the Joint Committee on f GRAMS APPROPRIATIONS ACT, Taxation could operate effectively this 1998 APPOINTMENT OF CONFEREES ON year when they worked on what we are told over and over again was a major Mr. CALLAHAN. Mr. Speaker, I ask H.R. 2209, LEGISLATIVE BRANCH APPROPRIATIONS ACT, 1998 historic tax bill, one would think they unanimous consent that during further could manage the work load during a consideration of the bill, H.R. 2159, no Mr. WALSH. Mr. Speaker, I ask more routine year without all this further amendments shall be in order unanimous consent to take from the extra staff. in the Committee of the Whole except Speaker’s table the bill, H.R. 2209, So, Mr. Speaker, we are simply call- the amendment Number 1 in House Re- making appropriations for the legisla- ing on the House to be more consistent port 105–184, and the amendment to tive branch for the fiscal year ending in imposing fiscal austerity within the that amendment, under the terms of September 30, 1998, and for other pur- legislative branch. We should treat all the order of the House of July 24, 1997, poses, with Senate amendments there- offices the same, not give special treat- and the pending amendment, Number to, disagree to the Senate amendments ment to a favored few. 38, offered by the gentleman from Indi- and agree to the conference asked by Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of ana [Mr. BURTON], and the amendment, the Senate. my time. Number 40, offered by Mr. BURTON. The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there Mr. WALSH. Mr. Speaker, I rise in The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there objection to the request of the gen- opposition to this motion. objection to the request of the gen- tleman from New York? The intent of the motion is to elimi- tleman from Alabama? There was no objection. nate the five additional full-time H6756 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 3, 1997 equivalent positions the bill provides I heard this concern in the full com- Since calendar year 1992, the Joint Com- for the Joint Committee on Taxation. mittee, and I offered an amendment mittee on Taxation has received, on average, The committee bill has already re- that reduces the subcommittee mark of over 2,000 requests for revenue estimates a duced the budget submitted by the 12 additional FTE’s to 5. The Commit- year. The Joint Committee currently has the chairman of the Joint Committee on tee on Appropriations heard this con- staff resources to respond to approximately Taxation, the gentleman from Texas cern, considered the prudence of re- 50% of these requests. Unless the number of [Mr. ARCHER] by seven positions, or straint, and accepted a staff level of a Joint Committee personnel are increased, the $219,000. Chairman ARCHER, who also decade ago and reported the bill with response rate to Members of Congress will chairs the Committee on Ways and those limited resources. not improve. This is not a question of staff not Means, testified that he needed 12 more Mr. Speaker, the House has voted on working to capacity. The Joint Committee staff staff positions to do the additional this; the House has taken a position devote all of their resources to the legitimate work mandated on the Joint Commit- supporting the House’s position. This needs of the Congress, but they are frankly tee on Taxation’s staff. motion would have us agree with the swamped with requests for assistance from Mr. Speaker, we all know the Joint Senate’s position, and I strongly urge Members of Congress that they cannot pos- Committee on Taxation provides in- that the House vote to reject this mo- sibly satisfy at current staffing levels. valuable work for the House and the tion. The Congress will require increased serv- Senate through the support they give The House of Representatives approved a ices of the Joint Committee on Taxation during to the Committee on Ways and Means fiscal year 1998 funding level for the Joint fiscal year 1998. During the first part of fiscal and the Senate Finance Committee. Committee on Taxation of $5,907,000, an in- year 1998, the Joint Committee staff will be They do much of the technical work on crease of $437,000 over fiscal year 1997. This completing its work investigating whether the all revenue bills. They also analyze tax amount is less than the $6,126,000 requested Internal Revenue Service has exhibited bias in treaties entered into between the U.S. by Ways and Means Committee Chairman the selection of tax-exempt organizations for Government and other countries, and BILL ARCHER and Senate Finance Committee audit. In addition, the staff of the Joint Com- they also review all large tax refunds Chairman BILL ROTH. mittee on Taxation will be involved with the issued by the Treasury Department. The $437,000 increase in appropriation ap- following legislative proposals during fiscal During the past 5 years, the econo- proved by the House would be allocated as year 1998: (1) Reauthorization of the highway mists, lawyers, and accountants of the follows: trust fund, (2) Possible Superfund legislation, Joint Committee on Taxation have Cost-of-living adjustments (salaries and (3) Legislation relating to the tobacco settle- averaged over 2,000 revenue estimates equipment): $161,000 and salaries for new ment, (4) Legislation relating to expiring tax requested by Members and committees hires: $276,000. provisions, (5) Consideration of 7 tax treaties in connection with the proposed tax The increase attributable to cost-of-living ad- by the Senate, (6) Legislation to reform the legislation. In addition, the staff has justments matches the assumed Federal em- operations of the Internal Revenue Service, reviewed several hundred large tax re- ployee cost-of-living adjustment. The salaries (7) Possible tax reduction proposals for 1998, funds. Last year, they reviewed 486 re- for new hires would be used primarily to fill a and (8) Fundamental restructuring of the Fed- fund reports with a dollar value of over portion of the increased FTE positions with ad- eral tax system. $4.6 billion. They found concerns in 103 ditional professional staffÐ2±3 staff econo- Contrary to what some have asserted, fiscal of these cases, concerns of over and mists, 1 attorney, and 1±2 computer special- year 1998 will see increased demands by the underfunding or errors that needed to ists or support staff. Congress for the services of the Joint Commit- be corrected. The House approved an increase of 5 FTE's tee on Taxation. So this committee does a great deal for the Joint Committee on Taxation for fiscal I will include the following for the RECORD: of technical work in support of the con- year 1998. The Joint Committee has 61 au- gressional revenue and tax treaty proc- thorized staff positions for fiscal year 1997. HISTORY OF APPROPRIATIONS—JOINT COMMITTEE ON ess, and they also oversee large tax re- Other than fiscal year 1996, in which the au- TAXATION SINCE FISCAL YEAR 1980 fund work of the Internal Revenue thorized staff positions were 63, the authorized Authorized Service. staff levels have not, since 1980, been below Fiscal year Appropriations positions In asking for a staffing increase this 66 positions. Thus, the FTE's authorized by 1980 ...... 66 year, the gentleman from Texas [Mr. the House would provide the Joint Committee 1981 ...... 68 ARCHER] outlined additional respon- with the same number of FTE's as in fiscal 1982 ...... 70 1983 ...... $3,377,000 68 sibilities that have been given to the year 1980. The attached summary sheet 1984 ...... 3,483,000 66 Joint Committee on Taxation. A new shows that the Joint Committee FTE's re- 1985 ...... 3,605,000 66 1986 ...... 3,546,000 66 requirement imposed by House rule mained relatively stable over the fiscal year 1987 ...... 4,159,000 66 XIII to make dynamic estimates in 1980±1997 period. Thus, when other staffs 1988 ...... 4,219,000 66 1989 ...... 4,346,000 70 major tax legislation; determining un- may have been growing during the 1980's, the 1990 ...... 4,353,000 70 funded mandates contained in revenue Joint Committee did not see the same bur- 1991 ...... 5,203,000 77 1992 ...... 5,759,000 77 legislation; and we saw the President geoning of staff. By way of comparison, the 1993 ...... 5,759,000 77 exercise his line-item veto on this most Congressional Budget Office has an appro- 1994 ...... 5,701,000 77 1995 ...... 6,019,000 73 recent tax measure. The Joint Commit- priation for fiscal year 1997 of $24,532,000 1996 ...... 5,116,000 63 tee on Taxation will be called upon to and 232 authorized FTE's, compared to 1997 ...... 5,470,000 61 1998 ...... 1 6,126,000 1 73 determine limited tax benefits that are $5,470,000 and 61 FTE's for the Joint Com- 2 5,907,000 2 66 eligible for consideration. He has asked mittee on Taxation. 3 5,724,000 ...... for, the chairman has asked for, 12 The Joint Committee on Taxation needs ad- 1 Requested. more FTE’s to do this work; the com- ditional funding to fulfill new responsibilities 2 House. 3 mittee bill only allows 5. We removed 7 that have been assigned to it. In addition to Senate. FTE’s during the full committee con- the traditional role of the Joint Committee staff Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of sideration of the bill after the gen- in the development, drafting, and estimating of my time. tleman from California [Mr. FAZIO] and proposed revenue legislation, the Joint Com- Mr. SERRANO. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 others indicated their concern for such mittee staff is now responsible for determining minutes to the gentleman from Wis- a large increase. So we have gone more the possible unfunded mandates contained in consin [Mr. OBEY], our ranking mem- than half way in meeting their con- revenue legislation and identifying the limited ber. cern. tax benefits subject to the Line Item Veto Act. Mr. OBEY. Mr. Speaker, I thank the The bill provides funding for an FTE In addition, a new House rule for the 105th gentleman for the time. level of 66. It puts the full-time equiva- Congress requires the staff of the Joint Com- I would urge the House to adopt this lent positions back at the level they mittee to estimate the possible macro- motion. I think there is absolutely no were funded at in 1988. This increase economic, or dynamic, scoring effects of major reason why joint committees ought to would bring them, the Joint Commit- revenue legislation. The Joint Committee staff be allowed a higher level of funding tee on Taxation, up to the level of 1988. presently has neither the personnel nor the than was approved for any other com- All we have done is put them back to computer capabilities to satisfy the require- mittee in this House when the commit- where they were 10 years ago. ment of this rule. tee funding resolution was brought to September 3, 1997 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6757 the floor, especially in light of the na- The gentleman from Texas [Mr. AR- The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. ture of the publicity which has been di- CHER] has suggested very strongly that SNOWBARGER). Without objection, the rected lately at the committee that the Committee on Ways and Means is previous question is ordered on the mo- would be the beneficiary of the largess going to take a serious look at reform- tion to instruct. contained in the House bill. ing our overall progressive income tax There was no objection. I would like to read from a newspaper program and reforming the Internal The SPEAKER pro tempore. The article from USA Today. It says to- Revenue Service. This is going to re- question is on the motion to instruct bacco industry representatives wrote quire staff work. offered by the gentleman from New the provision of the balanced budget Mr. Speaker, we are asking for only a York [Mr. SERRANO]. law that allows cigarette makers to re- funding level equal to what was there The question was taken; and the duce their future liability in smoking when the Democratic Party controlled Speaker pro tempore announced that related lawsuits, Congress’ chief writer the House back in 1988. This is the the noes appeared to have it. told USA Today. The industry wrote it staffing level they had. We have re- Mr. SERRANO. Mr. Speaker, I object and submitted it; we just used their duced this dramatically, but now we to the vote on the ground that a language, Kenneth Kies, staff director are starting to cut taxes, and the econ- quorum is not present and make the of the Joint Committee on Taxation omy of the country is picking up and point of order that a quorum is not said. responding positively. present. Kies declined to identify the lobbyist We do not want this to be the last tax The SPEAKER pro tempore. Evi- who presented the provision or the cut. We want it to be the first tax cut. dently a quorum is not present. company the lobbyist represented, but We would like to make sure that the The Sergeant at Arms will notify ab- his statement is the first public ac- work that the House and the Senate sent Members. knowledgment that the controversial and the President have done is properly The vote was taken by electronic de- provision which could save cigarette accounted for, and that we keep on tar- vice, and there were—yeas 202, nays manufacturers an estimated $50 billion get and in the direction of further re- 208, not voting 23, as follows: over 20 years originated with the indus- ducing the tax burden on the American [Roll No. 352] try itself. public. YEAS—202 Mrs. LOWEY. Mr. Speaker, I rise in support b 1700 Abercrombie Gephardt Mink of the motion to instruct before us. Ackerman Goode Moakley Now, that statement was made by It doesn't make sense to me why the Joint Allen Gordon Mollohan the director of the committee, which is Tax Committee needs all of the funding it re- Andrews Green Moran (VA) being given a higher level of funding Baesler Gutierrez Murtha ceives in this bill. Last month, when we all Baldacci Hall (TX) Nadler than any other committee has been thought the committee was busy writing the Barcia Hamilton Neal given this year. It seems to me that if provisions of the tax bill, it turns out they were Barrett (WI) Harman Neumann the staff director for that committee checking their mailbox for suggested provi- Becerra Hastings (FL) Oberstar admits that they are not even doing Bentsen Hefner Obey sions from lobbyists. Berry Hilliard Olver their own job and they are turning part One such suggestion was a $50 billion give- Bishop Hinojosa Ortiz of it over to K Street and the lobbyists away to the tobacco industry that went directly Blagojevich Holden Owens downtown, they have given up any ex- Blumenauer Hooley Pallone from the desks of the industry lobbyists into Bonior Hoyer Pascrell cuse for needing additional funding to the tax bill. Borski Hulshof Pastor prepare tax legislation. This provision will allow the big tobacco Boswell Jackson (IL) Pelosi We have already finished most of the companies to reduce the payment they are re- Boucher Jackson-Lee Pickett tax legislation that we are going to see Boyd (TX) Pomeroy quired to make under a settlement by the Brown (CA) Jefferson Poshard for this session and next. We have had amount collected in excise taxes on cigarettes. Brown (FL) John Price (NC) a huge change in the Tax Code. It This is unacceptable. Brown (OH) Johnson (WI) Rahall seems to me that it would be highly That is why I introduced legislation with Cardin Johnson, E.B. Rangel out of order to provide this special Carson Kanjorski Reyes Senator DICK DURBIN that will repeal this mid- Chabot Kaptur Rivers treatment for the Joint Tax Commit- dle-of-the-night giveaway. We must not allow Chenoweth Kennedy (MA) Rodriguez tee, especially when they indicate that American taxpayers to foot the bill for big to- Clay Kennedy (RI) Roemer they are allowing a lobbyist from K Clayton Kennelly Rothman bacco's settlement with the American people. Clement Kildee Roybal-Allard Street to write $50 billion amendments This provision should never have been writ- Clyburn Kilpatrick Sabo that are included in the major legisla- ten into the tax bill in the first place, and it Coburn Kind (WI) Sanchez tive action taken by the Congress this must be repealed immediately. Condit Klink Sanders year. Conyers Klug Sandlin But in addition to repealing the provision, we Costello Kucinich Sawyer Mr. Speaker, I would strongly urge must determine how it was slipped into the tax Coyne LaFalce Schumer the support for the gentleman’s mo- bill in the first place. Cramer Lampson Scott tion. Fortunately, Kenneth Kies, the staff director Cummings Largent Serrano Danner Levin Sherman Mr. WALSH. Mr. Speaker, I yield my- of the Joint Tax Committee, answered this Davis (FL) Lewis (GA) Sisisky self such time as I may consume. question for us August 29. When asked about Davis (IL) Lipinski Skaggs Mr. Speaker, I would just again urge this giveaway to the big tobacco companies, DeFazio Lofgren Skelton my colleagues to reject this motion. DeGette Lowey Slaughter Mr. Kies was quoted in USA Today as saying, Delahunt Luther Smith (MI) This committee’s work, this joint com- ``The industry wrote it and submitted it, and we DeLauro Maloney (CT) Smith, Adam mittee’s work, is of very timely impor- just used their language.'' Dellums Maloney (NY) Snyder tance. We did just pass a major tax cut. Mr. Speaker, if that is the way the Joint Tax Deutsch Manton Spratt Dicks Markey Stabenow Thank God that we did. We did it with Committee determined which provisions to in- Dingell Martinez Stark bipartisan support. Although some of clude in the tax bill, there are far better ways Doggett Mascara Stearns the proponents of this motion did not to use taxpayers' dollars. Dooley Matsui Stenholm support that tax cut, the majority of Doyle McCarthy (MO) Stokes We must repeal this tobacco giveaway, and Edwards McCarthy (NY) Strickland the Congress of both parties did, also we must send a strong message to Mr. Kies Eshoo McDermott Stupak the Senate, and the President signed and the Joint Tax Committee that the manner Etheridge McGovern Tauscher the bill, with a major reduction in in- in which this provision was slipped into the tax Evans McHale Taylor (MS) Farr McIntyre Taylor (NC) come taxes for people with children, bill is unacceptable. I urge my colleagues to Fattah McKinney Thompson for capital gains, estate and death tax support this motion to instruct. Fazio McNulty Thurman reform. Mr. SERRANO. Mr. Speaker, I have Filner Meehan Tierney Mr. Speaker, this is only the begin- no further requests for time, and I Flake Meek Torres Foglietta Menendez Traficant ning. We feel very strongly that this is yield back the balance of my time. Ford Millender- Turner just the first cut, that next year there Mr. WALSH. Mr. Speaker, I have no Frank (MA) McDonald Upton should be another and the following further requests for time, and I yield Frost Miller (CA) Velazquez year there should be another. back the balance of my time. Gejdenson Minge Vento H6758 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 3, 1997 Visclosky Waxman Woolsey PERSONAL EXPLANATION Ms. KAPTUR. Mr. Speaker, the mo- Waters Wexler Wynn Watt (NC) Weygand Yates Mr. ENSIGN. Mr. Speaker, on rollcall No. tion I offer today instructs the con- 352, severe thunderstorms caused my plane ferees on the fiscal year 1998 Agri- NAYS—208 to arrive late. Had I been present, I would culture Appropriations Act to agree to Aderholt Gibbons Pappas have voted ``no.'' the higher funding levels provided by Archer Gilchrest Parker Armey Gillmor Paul The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. the Senate for the Food and Drug Ad- Bachus Gilman Paxon SNOWBARGER). Without objection, the ministration’s Youth Tobacco Initia- Baker Goodlatte Pease Chair appoints the following conferees: tive. Ballenger Goodling Peterson (MN) Messrs. WALSH, YOUNG of Florida, Just this morning, Mr. Speaker, the Barr Goss Peterson (PA) Barrett (NE) Graham Petri CUNNINGHAM, WAMP, LATHAM, LIVING- Senate agreed to provide $34 million, Bartlett Granger Pickering STON, SERRANO, FAZIO of California, which was the full budget request, for Barton Greenwood Pitts OBEY, and Ms. KAPTUR. the Food and Drug Administration Bass Gutknecht Pombo Program to assist our States in en- Bateman Hansen Porter There was no objection. Bereuter Hastert Portman f forcement and outreach efforts related Bilbray Hastings (WA) Pryce (OH) to rules to prevent children, our chil- Bilirakis Hayworth Quinn GENERAL LEAVE dren, from purchasing tobacco as mi- Bliley Hefley Radanovich Blunt Herger Ramstad Mr. WALSH. Mr. Speaker, I ask nors. Boehlert Hill Redmond unanimous consent that all Members The House bill included $24 million Boehner Hilleary Regula may have 5 legislative days within for this important program, and origi- Bonilla Hobson Riggs which to revise and extend their re- nally the Senate had only provided $4.9 Bono Hoekstra Riley Brady Horn Rogan marks on the bill (H.R. 2209) making million. But this morning, in an act of Bryant Hostettler Rogers appropriations for the legislative great wisdom, the Senate, on an Bunning Houghton Ros-Lehtinen branch for the fiscal year ending Sep- amendment that was voiced after sub- Burr Hunter Royce Burton Hutchinson Ryun tember 30, 1998, and for other purposes, stantial approval was given and a mo- Buyer Hyde Salmon and that I may include tabular and ex- tion to table defeated, voted in the Callahan Inglis Sanford traneous material. Senate to raise the level to $34 million, Calvert Jenkins Saxton The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there which was the full budget request. Camp Johnson (CT) Scarborough Campbell Johnson, Sam Schaefer, Dan objection to the request of the gen- Mr. Speaker, our bill here in the Canady Jones Schaffer, Bob tleman from New York? House included $24 million for this im- Cannon Kasich Sensenbrenner There was no objection. portant program. Our motion would Castle Kelly Sessions simply instruct our House conferees to Chambliss Kim Shadegg f agree to the funding levels for the Food Christensen King (NY) Shaw APPOINTMENT OF CONFEREES ON Coble Kingston Shays and Drug Administration provided by Collins Kleczka Shimkus H.R. 2160, AGRICULTURE, RURAL the Senate, therefore, fully funding Combest Knollenberg Shuster DEVELOPMENT, FOOD AND DRUG this important initiative to protect our Cook Kolbe Skeen ADMINISTRATION, AND RELATED Cooksey LaHood Smith (NJ) Nation’s children. Cox Latham Smith (OR) AGENCIES APPROPRIATIONS Mr. Speaker, I do not need to point Crane LaTourette Smith (TX) ACT, 1998 out, I suppose, that nearly 90 percent of Crapo Lazio Snowbarger Cubin Leach Solomon Mr. SKEEN. Mr. Speaker, I ask unan- adult smokers in our country began Cunningham Lewis (CA) Souder imous consent to take from the Speak- doing so before the age of 18. In fact, at Davis (VA) Lewis (KY) Spence er’s table the bill (H.R. 2160) making current rates, more than 5 million chil- Deal Linder Stump DeLay Livingston Sununu appropriations for Agriculture, Rural dren under age 18 who are alive today Diaz-Balart LoBiondo Talent Development, Food and Drug Adminis- will be killed by smoking-related dis- Dickey Lucas Tauzin tration, and Related Agencies pro- eases. So we are talking about the lives Doolittle Manzullo Thomas grams for the fiscal year ending Sep- of millions of our children. Dreier McCrery Thornberry Duncan McDade Thune tember 30, 1998, and for other purposes, We know that every year more than Dunn McHugh Tiahrt with Senate amendments thereto, dis- $1 billion in tobacco products are ille- Ehlers McIntosh Walsh agree to the Senate amendments, and gally sold to minors. I underline ‘‘ille- Ehrlich McKeon Wamp gally’’ sold to minors in this country. Emerson Metcalf Watkins agree to the conference asked by the English Mica Watts (OK) Senate. And as much as $50 billion is spent Everett Miller (FL) Weldon (FL) The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there every year in our country on smoking- Ewing Moran (KS) Weldon (PA) objection to the request of the gen- related medical care. Fawell Morella Weller Foley Myrick White tleman from New Mexico [Mr. SKEEN]? Providing $34 million, $10 million Forbes Nethercutt Whitfield There was no objection. more than in the House agreement but Fowler Ney Wicker MOTION TO INSTRUCT OFFERED BY MS. KAPTUR meeting the full budget request, will Fox Northup Wolf help our States set up enforcement pro- Franks (NJ) Norwood Young (AK) Ms. KAPTUR. Mr. Speaker, I offer a Frelinghuysen Nussle Young (FL) motion to instruct. grams and educate retailers and the Ganske Oxley The Clerk read as follows: public on the new Food and Drug Ad- Gekas Packard ministration youth tobacco rules. It Ms. KAPTUR moves that the managers on NOT VOTING—23 the part of the House at the conference on seems to me this is the least we can do Berman Hall (OH) Roukema the disagreeing votes of the two Houses on to protect our country’s future and our Capps Hinchey Rush the bill H.R. 2160, be instructed to recede to children. Dixon Istook Schiff the Senate regarding funding levels provided I urge my colleagues to support this Engel Lantos Smith, Linda under the Food and Drug Administration for Ensign McCollum Tanner motion, and I reserve the balance of Furse McInnis Towns the program to prevent the use of tobacco my time. Gallegly Payne Wise products by minors. Mr. SKEEN. Mr. Speaker, with all Gonzalez Rohrabacher The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- due respect to the gentlewoman from ant to the rule, the gentlewoman from Ohio [Ms. KAPTUR], I concur that this b 1727 Ohio [Ms. KAPTUR], and the gentleman is a very important issue for all of us. Mr. Livingston changed his vote from from New Mexico [Mr. SKEEN] will each I share the gentlewoman’s concern, but ‘‘yea’’ to ‘‘nay.’’ be recognized for 30 minutes. we have many differences in these two Mrs. CHENOWETH and Messrs. The Chair recognizes the gentle- bills, and I strongly believe that the CLAY, STOKES, DINGELL, and woman from Ohio [Ms. KAPTUR]. House should not, should not be in- UPTON changed their vote from ‘‘nay’’ Ms. KAPTUR. Mr. Speaker, I yield structing its conferees to accept a Sen- to ‘‘yea.’’ myself such time as I may consume. ate position on any issue before the So the motion was rejected. (Ms. KAPTUR asked and was given conference has even begun. The result of the vote was announced permission to revise and extend her re- Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of as above recorded. marks.) my time. September 3, 1997 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6759 Ms. KAPTUR. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 I just wanted to mention that for Every time I go into my schools, minutes to the gentlewoman from Con- Members who are listening on the floor whether we are talking about preven- necticut [Ms. DELAURO], a distin- or maybe listening to these remarks tion of HIV, whether we are talking guished member of the Committee on over their televisions in their offices, if about understanding of one’s ability to Appropriations. you look at the budget issue involved know how to interact and to be able to Ms. DELAURO. Mr. Speaker, I rise in here, and I wanted to place this on the use one’s sexual intensity properly, it strong support of the motion to in- record because it is important, voting is all about educating our young peo- struct conferees to fully fund the for this motion to instruct is a very re- ple. It is all about being forthright. It FDA’s program to crack down on ille- sponsible vote. makes no sense whatsoever that we gal tobacco sales to minors. I appre- Both the House and the Senate have would not want to support this motion ciate the assistance of Chairman SKEEN decided within their respective appro- to instruct conferees to put some bite and other members of the subcommit- priations committees for different in our bark, to ensure that the 3,000 tee in providing $24 million for this im- marks, different funding levels for ag- young people under the age of 18 who portant initiative in the House bill. riculture functions. In the Senate, the get cigarettes every day are educated But I hope that in conference that we Agriculture Subcommittee allocations properly and these laws are enforced. can join the Senate and provide the en- were much higher than in the House. In We need to provide the bite for the tire $34 million needed to stop our fact, they have $30 million more in Food and Drug Administration. This is youngsters from taking up smoking budget authority and over $200 million a sensible, intelligent, forthright mo- and becoming addicted. more in outlays. As we go to con- tion to instruct conferees. Facts of underage tobacco use are un- ference, we have to conference on that I would be incensed, and I think the disputed. Every single day 3,000 young as well. American people would not understand people under the age of 18 who cannot So I want to assure my colleagues why the House would be backtracking even buy tobacco legally, become regu- that the flexibility within the budget from a so-called commitment to ensure lar smokers. Selling tobacco to minors exists and we are not asking for any- that the Food and Drug Administra- is illegal in all 50 States, but studies thing unreasonable in this motion to tion has all of the tools that it should show that children can buy tobacco 67 instruct. We are again asking our have to make sure that we see this percent of the time. What does this House colleagues to agree with what siege upon our young people in Amer- teach our children? It teaches them to the Senate has done and to instruct our ica prevented and we educate them to- smoke and it also teaches them that conferees to agree to the $34 million ward good health and to stop the smok- there are no penalties for breaking the youth tobacco prevention initiative. ing that has infiltrated their young law. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the lives and caused devastating health im- The FDA plan will help retailers un- gentlewoman from Texas [Ms. JACK- pact in their late lives. derstand and comply with the law. It SON-LEE]. Ms. KAPTUR. Mr. Speaker, I yield enables strict enforcement by checking Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas. Mr. myself such time as I may consume. that stores require people who look Speaker, I thank the ranking member I urge a ‘‘yes’’ vote on the motion to younger than age 27 show an ID card for her leadership and advocacy of this instruct conferees so that we can go to before they buy cigarettes. It is a per- issue. I recognize the sensitivity of the the conference with a strong position fectly legitimate practice with regard chairman as well, but would respect- from both the House and the Senate to the sale of alcohol. It is an enforce- fully disagree. I would respectfully dis- and really do something for the young ment mechanism, it is an outreach agree with the approach. It is vital and people of this country and help prevent mechanism, and it does not set up any, imperative that this motion to instruct additional addiction which will cost and I repeat, it does not set up any new conferees is passed by this body. government bureaucracy. millions of lives in the future and bil- There is a whole lot of barking going lions of dollars. Let us do what is right b 1745 around about what we intend to do for our children and give them a help- Yesterday’s Wall Street Journal re- about preventing children from engag- ing hand. ported that 83 percent of the Members ing in the beginning of tobacco use, or I urge a ‘‘yes’’ vote on the motion to of the other body who took tobacco smoking, but there is not a lot of bite. instruct conferees. money last year voted against fully This is a simple instruction that sim- Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance funding this provision. I would like to ply provides the bite that is needed to of my time. think that Members of this body today ensure that we provide the enforce- Mr. SKEEN. Mr. Speaker, I yield my- will be voting on this motion based on ment and the education to our retailers self such time as I may consume. what is best for America’s children and around this Nation. Let me summarize this issue for my not on what is best for their campaign One of the failings that brought colleagues, if I might. Currently the coffers. about this intense increase in cigarette House has $24.3 million for new tobacco Frankly, the tobacco industry has no smoking by our young people is that in regulations. In an action today, the reason to oppose this motion because the highways and byways and the rural Senate provided $34 million for the this money all goes toward endorsing communities and urban centers, there same purpose. I am not, I repeat, I am current law. This is no new law that is has been no incentive on the part of not opposed to providing funds for reg- being talked about. But perhaps be- our retailers to stop that young person ulating tobacco, but there has been no cause 90 percent of all smokers start who comes in, approaches that ciga- resolution of the differences in the al- the habit by age 18, the tobacco compa- rette, or to keep them from going to locations of the House and the Senate. nies are concerned that cracking down the cigarette machine; and what we The Senate allocation is $200 million on youth smoking will hurt their busi- have now is a $50 billion smoking-relat- more than the House. Until that is re- nesses. ed medical care cost. This does not solved, I do not believe that we should I would be ashamed if any Member of make sense. be issuing instructions to conferees to this body voted against this resolution All we are asking for our House Mem- go to numbers higher than the House as payback for a campaign contribu- bers to do is to be in sync with the Sen- allocation can support. tion. This motion is about saving lives. ate so that there is not a dilemma in I urge the defeat of the motion to in- Investing a small amount in prevention conference, there is not confusion in struct. today is going to yield enormous sav- conference, there is not disagreement Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance ings down the road, not only in dollars in conference, that we would join in of my time. for reduced medical costs but in the and support the $37 billion that the The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. lives of our young people who can be Senate has approved so we can put SNOWBARGER). Without objection, the saved. some action behind our words, put your previous question is ordered on the mo- I urge my colleagues to support the money where your mouth is and that is tion to instruct. motion to instruct. not in your pocket. That is to ensure There was no objection. Ms. KAPTUR. Mr. Speaker, I yield that there is enforcement and edu- The SPEAKER pro tempore. The myself such time as I may consume. cation. question is on the motion to instruct H6760 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 3, 1997 offered by the gentlewoman from Ohio Portman Sensenbrenner Taylor (MS) b 1815 Poshard Serrano Thompson APTUR [Ms. K ]. Pryce (OH) Shaw Thune The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. The question was taken; and the Quinn Shays Thurman SNOWBARGER). Without objection, the Speaker pro tempore announced that Rahall Sherman Tiahrt Chair appoints the following conferees: the noes appeared to have it. Ramstad Shimkus Tierney Rangel Sisisky Torres Messrs. SKEEN, WALSH, DICKEY, KINGS- Ms. KAPTUR. Mr. Speaker, I object Regula Skaggs Traficant TON, NETHERCUTT, BONILLA, LATHAM, to the vote on the ground that a Reyes Skelton Turner LIVINGSTON, Ms. KAPTUR, Mr. FAZIO of quorum is not present and make the Riggs Slaughter Upton Rivers Smith (MI) Velazquez California, Mr. SERRANO, Ms. DELAURO, point of order that a quorum is not Rodriguez Smith (NJ) Vento and Mr. OBEY. present. Roemer Smith (TX) Visclosky There was no objection. The SPEAKER pro tempore. Evi- Ros-Lehtinen Smith, Adam Wamp Rothman Snyder Waters f dently a quorum is not present. Roukema Spratt Watt (NC) The Sergeant at Arms will notify ab- Roybal-Allard Stabenow Waxman GENERAL LEAVE sent Members. Royce Stark Weldon (PA) Sabo Stenholm Wexler Mr. SKEEN. Mr. Speaker, I ask unan- The vote was taken by electronic de- Salmon Stokes Weygand imous consent that all Members may vice, and there were—yeas 299, nays Sanchez Strickland Wise have 5 legislative days to revise and ex- 125, not voting 9, as follows: Sanders Stupak Woolsey tend their remarks on H.R. 2160, and Sandlin Sununu Wynn [Roll No. 353] Sawyer Talent Yates that I may include tabular and extra- YEAS—299 Saxton Tanner Young (FL) neous material. Schumer Tauscher The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there Abercrombie Eshoo Klink Scott Tauzin Ackerman Evans Klug objection to the request of the gen- Allen Ewing Kolbe NAYS—125 tleman from New Mexico? Andrews Farr Kucinich Aderholt Gallegly Pease There was no objection. Bachus Fattah LaFalce Archer Gekas Pickering Baldacci Fawell LaHood f Armey Gillmor Pitts Barcia Fazio Lampson Baesler Goode Pombo Barrett (NE) Filner LaTourette Baker Goodlatte Price (NC) REMOVAL OF NAME OF MEMBER Barrett (WI) Flake Lazio Ballenger Graham Radanovich AS COSPONSOR OF H.R. 2332 Barton Foglietta Leach Barr Granger Redmond Bass Foley Levin Bartlett Hastings (WA) Riley Mr. EVERETT. Mr. Speaker, I ask Becerra Forbes Lewis (GA) Bateman Hefley Rogan unanimous consent that the gentleman Bentsen Ford Linder Bilbray Hefner Rogers Bereuter Fowler Lipinski from Ohio [Mr. BOEHNER] be removed Bliley Herger Rohrabacher Berman Fox LoBiondo as cosponsor of H.R. 2332. His name was Blunt Hilleary Ryun Berry Frank (MA) Lofgren Boehner Hostettler Sanford added in error. Bilirakis Franks (NJ) Lowey Bonilla Hunter Scarborough The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there Bishop Frelinghuysen Luther Bono Hyde Schaefer, Dan Blagojevich Frost Maloney (CT) objection to the request of the gen- Boucher Inglis Schaffer, Bob Blumenauer Furse Maloney (NY) Boyd Jenkins Sessions tleman from Alabama? Boehlert Ganske Manton Brady Johnson, Sam Shadegg There was no objection. Bonior Gejdenson Manzullo Bunning Jones Shuster Borski Gephardt Markey f Burr Kim Skeen Boswell Gibbons Martinez Burton Kingston Smith (OR) Brown (CA) Gilchrest Mascara APPOINTMENT OF CONFEREES ON Buyer Knollenberg Smith, Linda Brown (FL) Gilman Matsui Callahan Largent Snowbarger H.R. 2266, DEPARTMENT OF DE- Brown (OH) Goodling McCarthy (MO) Chambliss Latham Solomon Bryant Gordon McCarthy (NY) FENSE APPROPRIATIONS ACT, Chenoweth Lewis (CA) Souder Calvert Goss McDade 1998 Coble Lewis (KY) Spence Camp Green McDermott Coburn Livingston Stearns Campbell Greenwood McGovern Mr. YOUNG of Florida. Mr. Speaker, Collins Lucas Stump Canady Gutierrez McHale I ask unanimous consent to take from Combest McCrery Taylor (NC) Cannon Gutknecht McHugh Cooksey McInnis Thomas the Speaker’s table the bill (H.R. 2266) Capps Hall (TX) McKinney Cox McIntosh Thornberry making appropriations for the Depart- Cardin Hamilton McNulty Crane McIntyre Walsh Carson Hansen Meehan ment of Defense for the fiscal year end- Cubin McKeon Watkins Castle Harman Meek ing September 30, 1998, and for other Cunningham Mica Watts (OK) Chabot Hastert Menendez Deal Myrick Weldon (FL) purposes, with Senate amendments Christensen Hastings (FL) Metcalf DeLay Nethercutt Weller Clayton Hayworth Millender- thereto, disagree to the Senate amend- Dickey Northup White Clement Hill McDonald ments and agree to the conference Doolittle Norwood Whitfield Clyburn Hilliard Miller (CA) Dreier Packard Wicker asked by the Senate. Condit Hinchey Miller (FL) Dunn Parker Wolf The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there Conyers Hinojosa Minge Etheridge Paul Young (AK) Cook Hobson Mink objection to the request of the gen- Everett Paxon Costello Hoekstra Moakley tleman from Florida? Coyne Holden Mollohan NOT VOTING—9 There was no objection. Cramer Hooley Moran (KS) Crapo Horn Moran (VA) Clay Hall (OH) Rush MOTION TO INSTRUCT OFFERED BY MR. OBEY Cummings Houghton Morella Dixon Lantos Schiff Mr. OBEY. Mr. Speaker, I offer a mo- Danner Hoyer Murtha Gonzalez McCollum Towns tion to instruct conferees. Davis (FL) Hulshof Nadler The Clerk read as follows: Davis (IL) Hutchinson Neal b Davis (VA) Istook Neumann 1813 Mr. OBEY moves that the managers on the DeFazio Jackson (IL) Ney Mr. PAXON changed his vote from part of the House at the conference on the DeGette Jackson-Lee Nussle disagreeing votes of the two Houses on the Delahunt (TX) Oberstar ‘‘yea’’ to ‘‘nay.’’ amendment of the Senate to the bill H.R. DeLauro Jefferson Obey Messrs. PORTER, CALVERT, TIAHRT, Dellums John Olver 2266 be instructed to insist on the House po- BASS, BILIRAKIS, EWING, HUTCHINSON, Deutsch Johnson (CT) Ortiz sition prohibiting the use of funds to approve Diaz-Balart Johnson (WI) Owens METCALF, WAMP, TALENT, Mrs. EMER- or license the sale of the F–22 advanced tac- Dicks Johnson, E. B. Oxley SON, and Messrs. SHIMKUS, BARRETT of tical fighter to any foreign government. Dingell Kanjorski Pallone Nebraska, LAHOOD and HULSHOF Doggett Kaptur Pappas The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- Dooley Kasich Pascrell changed their vote from ‘‘nay’’ to ant to the rule, the gentleman from Doyle Kelly Pastor ‘‘yea.’’ Wisconsin [Mr. OBEY] and the gen- Duncan Kennedy (MA) Payne So the motion to instruct was agreed Edwards Kennedy (RI) Pelosi tleman from Florida [Mr. YOUNG] will Ehlers Kennelly Peterson (MN) to. each be recognized for 30 minutes. Ehrlich Kildee Peterson (PA) The result of the vote was announced The Chair recognizes the gentleman Emerson Kilpatrick Petri as above recorded. from Wisconsin [Mr. OBEY]). Engel Kind (WI) Pickett English King (NY) Pomeroy A motion to reconsider was laid on Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield my- Ensign Kleczka Porter the table. self such time as I may consume. September 3, 1997 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6761 Mr. Chairman, I do not intend to A motion to reconsider was laid on Clyburn Hill Miller (CA) Coble Hilleary Miller (FL) take the 30 minutes. Let me simply ex- the table. Coburn Hilliard Minge plain what is in the motion. The SPEAKER pro tempore. Without Collins Hinchey Mink We are about evidently to proceed to objection, the Chair appoints the fol- Combest Hinojosa Moakley spend $80 to $100 billion to build a new lowing conferees: Messrs. YOUNG of Condit Hobson Mollohan Cook Hoekstra Moran (KS) fighter aircraft, the F–22, to take the Florida, MCDADE, LEWIS of California, Cooksey Holden Moran (VA) place of the F–15 and the F–16. We are SKEEN, HOBSON, BONILLA, NETHERCUTT, Costello Hooley Morella being told that the reason we have to ISTOOK, CUNNINGHAM, LIVINGSTON, MUR- Cox Horn Murtha do that is because we have sold some Coyne Hostettler Myrick THA, DICKS, HEFNER, SABO, DIXON, VIS- Cramer Houghton Nadler 1,700 F–16’s to other countries around CLOSKY, and OBEY. Crane Hoyer Neal the world plus a good many F–15’s, and There was no objection. Crapo Hulshof Nethercutt so therefore we must develop a new Cubin Hunter Neumann f Cummings Hutchinson Ney generation fighter aircraft. Cunningham Hyde Northup We are told that we have to proceed GENERAL LEAVE Danner Inglis Norwood to do this because we sold so many F– Davis (FL) Istook Nussle Mr. YOUNG of Florida. Mr. Speaker, 15’s and F–16’s to other countries Davis (IL) Jackson (IL) Oberstar I ask unanimous consent that all Mem- Davis (VA) Jackson-Lee Obey around the world that we have to build bers may have 5 legislative days within Deal (TX) Olver a new generation aircraft in order to DeGette Jefferson Ortiz which to revise and extend their re- regain our technology edge. Delahunt Jenkins Owens marks on H.R. 2266, Department of De- All this amendment says is that if in- DeLauro John Oxley fense Appropriations Act for fiscal year DeLay Johnson (CT) Packard deed we are going to proceed to build 1998. Dellums Johnson (WI) Pallone the F–22 and spend $80 to $100 billion on Deutsch Johnson, E. B. Pappas The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there that project to regain that technology Diaz-Balart Johnson, Sam Parker objection to the request of the gen- Dickey Jones Pascrell edge that we ought to keep that tech- tleman from Florida? Dicks Kanjorski Pastor nology at home and we ought not then Dingell Kaptur Paul There was no objection. sell that advanced technology to other Doggett Kasich Paxon f Dooley Kelly Payne countries. We are already being told Doolittle Kennedy (MA) Pease that the contractor for the new F–22 is MOTION TO CLOSE CONFERENCE Doyle Kennedy (RI) Pelosi already talking about fully marketing Dreier Kennelly Peterson (MN) that technology abroad. That is how COMMITTEE MEETINGS ON H.R. Duncan Kildee Peterson (PA) Dunn Kilpatrick Petri we got into this problem in the first 2266, DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE APPROPRIATIONS ACT, 1998 Edwards Kim Pickering place. Ehlers Kind (WI) Pickett Mr. Speaker, it seems to me if we Mr. YOUNG of Florida. Mr. Speaker, Ehrlich King (NY) Pitts want to stop chasing our tail, we will I offer a motion. Emerson Kingston Pombo Engel Kleczka Pomeroy adopt this amendment and simply spell The SPEAKER pro tempore. The English Klink Porter out that if we are going to spend $80 to Clerk will report the motion. Ensign Klug Portman $100 billion in order to regain a tech- The Clerk read as follows: Eshoo Knollenberg Poshard Etheridge Kolbe Price (NC) nology edge around the world, we are Mr. YOUNG of Florida moves, pursuant to Evans Kucinich Pryce (OH) not then going to sell off that tech- rule XXVIII, clause 6(a) of the House rules, Everett LaFalce Quinn nology to other countries. That is all that the conference meetings between the Ewing LaHood Radanovich the amendment says, and I would sim- House and the Senate on the bill H.R. 2266, Farr Lampson Rahall Fattah Lantos Ramstad ply suggest that if we do not do that, making appropriations for the Department of Defense for the fiscal year ending Septem- Fawell Largent Rangel Fazio Latham Redmond we will be back here in 10 years having ber 30, 1998, and for other purposes, be closed to supply more money to replace the Filner LaTourette Regula to the public at such times as classified na- Flake Lazio Reyes F–22 with an F–44, and 10 years after tional security information is under consid- Foglietta Leach Riggs that replace it with an F–88 because we eration: Provided, however, That any sitting Foley Levin Riley will have given away our technology Member of Congress shall have the right to Forbes Lewis (CA) Rivers edge time and time again. If we are attend any closed or open meeting. Ford Lewis (GA) Rodriguez Fowler Lewis (KY) Roemer going to spend taxpayers’ money, we The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Fox Linder Rogan ought to keep the benefit of that tech- question is on the motion offered by Frank (MA) Lipinski Rogers nology here at home. the gentleman from Florida Mr. Franks (NJ) Livingston Rohrabacher Frelinghuysen LoBiondo Ros-Lehtinen Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of YOUNG. Frost Lofgren Rothman my time. Pursuant to clause 6(a) of rule XXVII Furse Lowey Roukema Mr. YOUNG of Florida. Mr. Speaker, this question must be determined by Gallegly Lucas Roybal-Allard I would announce to our colleagues in Ganske Luther Royce the yeas and nays. Gejdenson Maloney (CT) Rush the House that it is my intention to The vote was taken by electronic de- Gekas Maloney (NY) Ryun support all of the provisions in H.R. vice, and there were—yeas 420, nays 4, Gephardt Manton Sabo 2266 that the House agreed to when we not voting 9, as follows: Gibbons Manzullo Salmon Gilchrest Markey Sanchez go to conference. The matter that the [Roll No. 354] Gillmor Martinez Sanders gentleman from Wisconsin [Mr. OBEY] YEAS—420 Gilman Mascara Sandlin has made a motion to instruct is part Goode Matsui Sanford Abercrombie Bereuter Brown (OH) of that bill, and I would advise him Goodlatte McCarthy (MO) Sawyer Ackerman Berman Bryant Goodling McCarthy (NY) Saxton that we intend to support that provi- Aderholt Berry Bunning Gordon McCrery Scarborough sion in the bill in conference, and we Allen Bilbray Burr Goss McDade Schaefer, Dan Andrews Bilirakis Burton Graham McDermott Schaffer, Bob support his motion. Archer Bishop Buyer Mr. OBEY. Mr. Speaker, I yield back Granger McGovern Schumer Armey Blagojevich Callahan Green McHale Scott the balance of my time. Bachus Bliley Calvert Greenwood McHugh Sensenbrenner Mr. YOUNG of Florida. Mr. Speaker, Baesler Blumenauer Camp Gutierrez McInnis Serrano I yield back my time. Baker Blunt Campbell Gutknecht McIntosh Sessions Baldacci Boehlert Canady Hall (TX) McIntyre Shadegg The SPEAKER pro tempore. Without Ballenger Boehner Cannon Hamilton McKeon Shaw objection, the previous question is or- Barcia Bonilla Capps Hansen McKinney Shays dered on the motion to instruct. Barr Bonior Cardin Harman McNulty Sherman There was no objection. Barrett (NE) Bono Carson Hastert Meehan Shimkus Barrett (WI) Borski Castle Hastings (FL) Meek Shuster The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Bartlett Boswell Chabot Hastings (WA) Menendez Sisisky question is on the motion to instruct Barton Boucher Chambliss Hayworth Metcalf Skaggs offered by the gentleman from Wiscon- Bass Boyd Chenoweth Hefley Mica Skeen Bateman Brady Christensen sin [Mr. OBEY]. Hefner Millender- Skelton Becerra Brown (CA) Clayton Herger McDonald Slaughter The motion was agreed to. Bentsen Brown (FL) Clement H6762 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 3, 1997 Smith (MI) Talent Walsh United States’ relations with Cuba. It so. Tonight, if members of his Govern- Smith (NJ) Tanner Wamp Smith (OR) Tauscher Waters was my privilege to visit Cuba last ment are listening, it seems to me that Smith (TX) Tauzin Watkins week with my colleague the gentleman the Cuban Government would only ben- Smith, Adam Taylor (MS) Watts (OK) from South Carolina [Mr. SANFORD] as efit from permitting free access by Smith, Linda Taylor (NC) Waxman part of a delegation in connection with international groups of such repute as Snowbarger Thomas Weldon (PA) Snyder Thompson Weller the Human Rights Foundation. Our the International Committee of the Solomon Thornberry Wexler focus was on the present economic and Red Cross in order to ascertain condi- Souder Thune Weygand political circumstances in Cuba and tions in prisons on a regular basis. Spence Thurman White the relationship between the United Mr. Alarcon did point out that Amer- Spratt Tiahrt Whitfield ica has not been as critical of other na- Stabenow Tierney Wicker States and that country, with particu- Stearns Torres Wise lar focus on the health conditions in tions in Latin America as we are of Stenholm Traficant Wolf Cuba, and the impact, if any, of the Cuba, and that may well be right. But Stokes Turner Woolsey I do want my colleagues to know that Strickland Upton Wynn United States’ economic restrictions Stump Velazquez Young (AK) on Cuba. I raised the issue of human rights, of Stupak Vento Young (FL) Mr. Speaker, I am also inspired to free and fair elections, and of political Sununu Visclosky speak this evening by my colleague, prisoners, and that those are serious is- NAYS—4 the gentlewoman from Florida [Ms. sues and remain so to this day. I emphasize now in my remaining Conyers Stark ILEANA ROS-LEHTINEN] and my col- DeFazio Watt (NC) league, the gentleman from Florida time the most important lesson, though, that I learned. This was one NOT VOTING—9 [Mr. LINCOLN DIAZ-BALART], both of whom are friends and both of whom that reemphasized a judgment that I Clay Hall (OH) Towns had made preliminarily before I went have spoken long and on this floor for Dixon McCollum Weldon (FL) to Cuba. That is that it is wrong and Gonzalez Schiff Yates human rights in Cuba. shortsighted and harmful to America b 1844 I have two messages, and perhaps I should preface both of them by saying to continue the embargo between our So the motion was agreed to. I do not consider myself an expert on country and Cuba. The United States The result of the vote was announced ought to trade with Cuba. We ought to Cuba. I was fortunate to spend 1 week as above recorded. trade as we trade with China, as we there. I believe I was permitted to go A motion to reconsider was laid on trade with Russia, as we trade with the where I wished to go. I was permitted the table. countries coming out of the socialist to ask questions with no restriction. f systems. But I do not consider myself an expert. When we trade we begin to develop REMOVAL OF NAME OF MEMBER Still, I do wish to share my observa- an economic group of people, a group of AS COSPONSOR OF H.R. 1031 tions, largely at the urging of my two people who are devoted to free mar- Mr. CUMMINGS. Mr. Speaker, I ask colleagues from Florida, who asked kets, to the extent that there is a con- unanimous consent that my name be that I do so. trol over people’s lives through the I wish to begin by emphasizing that removed as a cosponsor of the bill, H.R. economy that is loosened by free trade, there is a need for all Americans to 1031, the American Community Re- and there is also a very important hu- continue to speak out on behalf of newal Act. manitarian component. human rights in Cuba; that it is appro- The SPEAKER pro tempore [Mr. One of the very important issues of priate to call for full, free, and fair SNOWBARGER]. Is there objection to the our trip was health care. The Cuban elections, including at the presidential request of the gentleman from Mary- Government made a point that even level. I was informed during our trip land? though officially trade in pharma- there of the proximity of local elec- There was no objection. ceuticals and medicines are not prohib- tions, and also of the designation of f ited under the Helms-Burton law, there multi-candidates for each available is intimidation that has been practiced SPECIAL ORDERS post in the assembly. Surely this is a or at least felt by American companies The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under positive development. who would wish to send medicines to the Speaker’s announced policy of Jan- On the other hand, I was also in- Cuba but feel it is not worth the dif- uary 7, 1997, and under a previous order formed that the Communist Party will ficulty of obtaining an end-use license, of the House, the following Members still be the dominant basis for select- or making a certification that they will be recognized for 5 minutes each. ing the candidates for such offices, and would monitor those people who would that, obviously, should be opened up. f use it, or guarantee that the medicines We were privileged to meet with the will never get into the hands of the The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a President of Cuba, Fidel Castro, we previous order of the House, the gen- Government. were privileged to meet with the Vice These are very difficult obstacles to tleman from Michigan [Mr. HOEKSTRA] President of the Council of Ministers, overcome, and so many American com- is recognized for 5 minutes. and with the equivalent of the Speaker panies do not send medicines, with the [Mr. HOEKSTRA addressed the of the House, Senor Alarcon, and in result that the Cuban Government is House. His remarks will appear here- each case we were able to raise any able, and not inappropriately on all oc- after in the Extensions of Remarks.] subjects that we wished. casions, to say that the United States f When I met with Mr. Alarcon, I policy and Helms-Burton in particular The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a raised with him the issue of free and is depriving their people of the full previous order of the House, the gen- fair elections, access to prisons, and I medical care that they might other- tleman from New Jersey [Mr. PALLONE] emphasized the importance of allowing wise have. To the extent that is true, is recognized for 5 minutes. the International Committee of the that hurts our country. It is not the in- [Mr. PALLONE addressed the House. Red Cross to visit the prisons of Cuba, tention of those Members of this body, His remarks will appear hereafter in and the presence of political prisoners. our colleagues who voted for Helms- the Extensions of Remarks.] His responses, as I took them down, Burton, and it would serve the inter- f were that there were still some pris- ests of all to end it. oners in Cuban jails who, in his Gov- I will conclude, if I might, Mr. RECOMMENDING A CHANGE IN U.S. ernment’s belief, had received money Speaker, with just this one observa- POLICY TOWARD CUBA from our Government to destabilize the tion. When our plane left Nassau and The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a Government of Cuba, and that that was touched down in Havana, the pas- previous order of the House, the gen- the reason why they were in jail, al- sengers applauded, and I thought, they tleman from California [Mr. CAMPBELL] though also other crimes. must be happy to be coming home. is recognized for 5 minutes. He did not say that the International When our plane left Havana and Mr. CAMPBELL. Mr. Speaker, I rise Committee of the Red Cross could visit touched down in Miami through Nas- today to speak to the subject of the those prisoners, and I urged him to do sau again, the passengers applauded. September 3, 1997 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6763

There are people of good will on both tleman from Florida [Mr. GOSS] is rec- regular and more verifiable means of sides of the Florida strait. Let us foster ognized for 5 minutes. food aid distribution to ease the imme- friendship, foster free market, foster Mr. GOSS. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased diate crisis. I pointed out, and the oth- trust in individual freedom, and I think to report to my colleagues in the House ers did, that Americans are a compas- a first step to doing so is to repeal the on a precedent-setting House CODEL sionate people willing to respond to Helms-Burton Act; and at least, if we visit to North Korea last month during human suffering in remote regions of cannot do that, to allow the free trade our recess. the world. We have already provided in medicines and food. b 1900 about 60 million dollars’ worth of aid, f that adds up to about 100,000 metric I was honored to lead a bipartisan tons of food, in relief of starving people TRIBUTE TO ARTENSA RANDOLPH delegation of seven members of the in North Korea. Hopefully, it is going The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a House Permanent Select Committee on to people starving and not the mili- previous order of the House, the gen- Intelligence in traveling on oversight tary. But we were disappointed that business to Asia. Our trip happened to tleman from Illinois [Mr. DAVIS] is rec- during our visit we were not taken to ognized for 5 minutes. include 3 days and 2 nights in North see the food distribution centers, nor Mr. DAVIS of Illinois. Mr. Speaker, I Korea, and I will include for the did we have access to the regions of the rise today to pay tribute to a national RECORD the formal written statement nation where food shortages are most leader in the public housing movement, of our delegation released about that severe. the late Artensa Randolph. Ms. Ran- portion of our trip. However, we understand that our Mr. Speaker, the simple fact that the dolph departed this life Tuesday, Au- visit helped pave the way for a staff North Korean leadership welcomed a gust 19, at the age of 81. She chaired delegation from another committee to delegation of the size, seniority, and the Chicago Housing Authority’s Resi- have greater access while in North breadth of our seven-member group is Korea. In the longer term, an increas- dent Central Advisory Committee, and very telling and somewhat remarkable, served as a member of the Chicago ing presence of outsiders going about in my view. Crises is forcing the reclu- their business on behalf of nongovern- Housing Authority’s Executive Advi- sive and anachronistic North Korean sory Committee. mental relief organizations, the Korean regime to reach out to the United Peninsula Energy Development Organi- She was truly a staunch advocate for States for assistance and pull back the rights of tenants of public housing. zation, Congress, and other organiza- slightly on the veil of secrecy that has tions that have legitimate business She possessed an enormous amount of shrouded that nation for decades. there, should help force open the door courage, energy, and tenacity to advo- Even though our trip was obviously between North Korea and the outside cate on behalf of the disenfranchised carefully managed by our hosts, we saw world. and the dispossessed. She was guided the signals of collapse during our visit. Mr. Speaker, the signals are abun- by the principles of justice and fairness People really are starving; the infra- dantly clear: The North Korean regime for all people. She was indeed a re- structure is crumbling; power short- is dying. We must do our part to pre- markable person who gave her very ages are routine; proregime propaganda vent that process from undermining best at whatever she did. Her work is rampant; and the leadership, while the security of the peninsula and reached well beyond Chicago, for she refusing to concede failure, is tighten- threatening America’s vital interests influenced public housing policies and ing control and grasping for leverage. in the region. Americans do have sev- decisions on a national level. After spending 48 hours in that iso- eral good reasons for being interested Ms. Randolph moved to Chicago from lated country, I felt as if I had been in in the future relations with the North Pine Bluff, AR, in 1937, and worked in a time warp, witnessing a life totally Korean regime. Not just the humani- the stockyards. During the 1960’s she foreign to the American experience tarian concerns and seeking to prevent became involved in the tenants’ rights today, perhaps something back in the the starvation of literally millions of movement, and was elected president cold war days behind the Iron Curtain. people, but, second, our interests are of the Washington Park Homes Local We repeatedly drove home the point very much at stake when we consider Advisory Council in 1976. Her life par- that food aid distribution must be veri- something on the order of 200,000 Amer- alleled the rise of public housing, and fiable so that we can be sure it reaches icans and Korean-Americans are living in many ways she was the catalyst for the people who are most in need. And and going about their business in bringing about positive change in the we were asked repeatedly about aid. We South Korea within close range of the way tenants are treated. She brought a expressed hope that cooperation on the world’s fourth largest army, with its tremendous amount of knowledge, issue of MIA’s would remain coming massed artillery on the DMZ. And, we perseverence, and dedication regarding from the North Koreans and they have have very serious concerns about North public housing issues. given us some cooperation. These are Korea’s activities in proliferating While Artensa Randolph has left this very positive signs. weapons of mass destruction to rogue place, her spirit as a fighter for justice, But in response, the North Korean of- nations and, in fact, that has been hap- fairness, and equality for all tenants of ficials stated that the United States pening. public housing shall endure forever. sanctions against them must be lifted To the extent that our visit marked a She has left a legacy that will speak to and additional unconditional food as- milestone in the United States-North the unmet challenges still confronting sistance, and I stress the word ‘‘uncon- Korea relationship, I hope that the public housing and its residents. We ditional,’’ must be provided. elite band of leaders in the North will must never forget the cause which she The North Koreans did not acknowl- not allow current events to foreclose championed, that of the poor. We must edge the need for internal economic, the opportunity now at hand. I believe always stand ready to be a voice for agricultural, or political reform, focus- that the veil is lifting there, and I am the voiceless, and continue to make ing instead on external factors as the certain to believe that a negotiated public housing the best that it can pos- root of the causes of their current dif- settlement bringing North Korea into sibly be. ficulties. While they were cordial in this century certainly is better than Anyone who continues to work at the their hospitality, and they did give us any of the other alternatives using the age of 81 as chairman of a large organi- fine hospitality, these senior officials military. zation, who helps to make policy for were obviously mistrustful of the Unit- Mr. Speaker, I submit the following people all over the Nation, is indeed a ed States. They also forcefully under- for the RECORD: champion. That was the life and that is scored their position that they would JOINT STATEMENT OF THE HOUSE PERMANENT indeed the legacy of Artensa Randolph. not negotiate with South Korea as long SELECT COMMITTEE ON INTELLIGENCE—CON- GRESSIONAL DELEGATION VISIT TO THE as the South’s President, Kim Young f DEMOCRATIC PEOPLE’S REPUBLIC OF Sam, remains in office. He is scheduled KOREA—AUGUST 12, 1997 REPORT ON CODEL TO NORTH to remain in office until the end of this KOREA From August 9 through August 11, a bipar- year. tisan, seven-member Congressional Delega- The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a In the short term, we should be prin- tion (CODEL) from the House Permanent Se- previous order of the House, the gen- cipally concerned with establishing a lect Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI) was H6764 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 3, 1997 in Pyongyang, Democratic People’s Republic people most in need. The delegation stressed and not just as the fruition of our laws of Korea (North Korea) to meet with North that sanctions must be negotiated as part of under title IX, and we have got to keep Korean officials and gather first-hand infor- a larger political package involving pro- fighting to ensure that young people, mation about the current situation in that liferation and other security matters. The delegation will provide President Clin- young women, have the opportunity of volatile region. This was a precedent-setting equal access to sports and sportsman- visit to North Korea by a Congressional dele- ton, Speaker Gingrich, Minority Leader Gep- gation of this size, seniority, and breadth of hardt, and the Department of State with a ship and playing the game well. experience. full report of the substance of its discussions Saturday, August 30, was an historic The delegation was led by HPSCI Chair- and its impressions. The delegation con- occasion for the game of basketball. man Porter J. Goss (R–FL). The other Mem- cludes that opportunity for further construc- They have now come to their own. bers of Congress comprising the CODEL were tive dialogue exists and will confer with Women are playing the real game. Bas- Nancy Pelosi (D–CA), Bill McCollum (R–FL), other Congressional committees of jurisdic- ketball is a game that has a long tradi- Jane Harman (D–CA), Sanford D. Bishop, Jr. tion. tion of both women and men’s play in The CODEL travelled to North Korea as (D–GA), Charles F. Bass (R–NH) and Jim Gib- our high schools and colleges. I have bons (R–NV). In addition to their assignment part of a trip to Asia, which includes visits to Beijing, China; Tokyo, Japan; and Seoul, watched them for many years, and on the HPSCI, these members represent a there is a deep respect for the game on wealth of experience on relevant issues based South Korea. The delegation returns to the on their other committee assignments. United States on August 15. our playgrounds and in our gyms. And, The delegation’s interlocutors were headed f yes, it does teach character, it provides by Mr. Kang Sokju, First Vice Minister of role models, and, yes, it teaches you the Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA), and THE HOUSTON COMETS WIN THE how to play the game of life. Mr. Li Hyong-chol, Director of American Af- FIRST WNBA CHAMPIONSHIP I dare say that it is probably the fairs of the MFA. All discussions took place The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. most popularly played game in our Na- in the Pyongyang region. Despite repeated BLUNT). Under a previous order of the tion, and it is fast becoming the most requests by CODEL members, the delegation House, the gentlewoman from Texas popular game in the world. was unable to travel to famine-stricken [Ms. JACKSON-LEE] is recognized for 5 That championship game completes areas where it had hoped to determine the the cycle of respect and closes a hoop, extent of the problem and investigate the minutes. system used for distributing food aid. Ms. JACKSON-LEE. Mr. Speaker, can if you will, on making the game of bas- In several formal and informal working my colleagues believe it? The Houston ketball a complete game. It is com- sessions with the North Koreans, the CODEL Comets will see them at breakfast. The plete in the sense that now women, made the following points: WNBA champions. ‘‘Can you believe women who played for years and years, The United States has a strong and abiding it?’’ who have had to travel the globe just national security interest in helping defuse Mr. Speaker, I rise today as a proud to practice their trade, who have the tension on the Korean peninsula. The four woman and proud Houstonian. Move determination and devotion to play the party talks should be responsibly pursued; over Michael. Here we come, Magic, North Korea must cease its sale of ad- game at the highest levels, have the re- vanced weaponry, missile systems, and sup- Bird, and Hakiem. Women’s profes- spect of being able to make a living porting technologies to Iran and other sional basketball got a league of their from their basketball skills in their ‘‘rouge’’ states; own and the Houston Comets are the own country where the game was in- The United States stands firmly behind its new champions of the new world of vented and has evolved to the highest military and security commitments to the women’s basketball. levels. Republic of Korea; Houston is now the ‘‘Clutch City’’ as The Houston Comets, Mr. Speaker, North Korea must fully honor its commit- well as ‘‘Coop City’’ as the Comets, led they gave it all to Houston. They went ments in the nuclear arena, as specified in by the regular season and champion- to charities. They made themselves the Agreed Framework, including allowing International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) ship game’s most valuable player, Cyn- available to our schoolchildren. They challenge inspections and comply with its re- thia Cooper, beat the New York Lib- were great. The Houston Comets are sponsibilities to the Korean Peninsula En- erty 65 to 51 before a sellout crowd and now a part of our history as a basket- ergy Development Organization (KEDO); a national television audience at the ball nation and a basketball world. North Korea’s cooperation in helping lo- Summit to claim the title of America’s Those players will be forever men- cate and return the remains of several Unit- first Women’s National Basketball As- tioned and remembered as the first, the ed States military personnel killed in the sociation Champion. very first women of basketball. Korean War is a positive step. Such steps Mr. Speaker, it was a game my 17- Shine on Comets. We love you. Many must be continued and expanded; Provocative acts such as those that oc- year-old daughter Erica went crazy of them who played their hearts out in curred in the Demilitarized Zone on July 16, over. But, my 11-year-old son, Jason, the 1996 Olympics now have this great 1997 are counterproductive to cooperation did as well. honor. and understanding; WNBA Coach of the Year Van Chan- I am obviously bursting with pride as To participate fully in the opportunities of cellor had brand new Mom, Sheryl a Houstonian to salute our champion, the world community, North Korea must Swoopes, work her heart out, and the Houston Comets. The most fitting open up its society; and Wanda Guyton, after a heck of a sea- place for them now is to go to the North Korea must make its food distribu- son, may have been hurt, but Janeth House. That is the White House. So I tion to the civilian population fully trans- have written and spoken to the White parent and verifiable, in order to facilitate Arcain, Tina Thompson, and Patty Jo the United States’ consideration of addi- Hedges, Tammy Jackson, and Kim House regarding a visit with President tional assistance. The food aid cannot be di- Perrot, as well as ‘‘Coop,’’ were cook- Clinton here in Washington, D.C., at verted to the military. ing on all cylinders and served up some the White House to honor their historic Though the visit was carefully managed by home cooking for the Lady Libertys to achievement. the North Korean hosts, the tenor of the dis- give the Houston fans and basketball Mr. Speaker, to the Houston Comets cussions was cordial but candid. Frank dis- fans all over the Nation the memories let me say to them, and all cussion about mutual mistrust occurred on that they will forever and forever re- Houstonians, wherever they may be, several items of a lengthy agenda. The dele- member. the Houston Comets, they really gation believes talks were constructive in played the real game. Mr. Speaker, demonstrating bipartisan support for United Some of these women have spent States policy to encourage North Korea to years and years playing on the hard- they are truly our real heroes. Mr. engage in honest and good faith negotiations woods of Europe, and now they can Speaker, see you at breakfast with the to lessen tensions in the region. come home and strut their stuff before Houston Comets. Congratulations to The North Koreans were focused on seeing their own family and friends and fans. them all. the United States sanctions lifted and the It was so very special for Cynthia f need for additional food assistance. In addi- Cooper to be able to play on her home The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a tion, the North Koreans stated their refusal court so that her own dear mom could previous order of the House, the gen- to abandon their centralized political and economic systems. The delegation empha- see her playing, a mom that has been a tleman from Georgia [Mr. BISHOP] is sized that Americans are a compassionate strong supporter of hers throughout recognized for 5 minutes. people, generous in their willingness to alle- the years. [Mr. BISHOP addressed the House. viate suffering, but who seek assurance that This championship is an historic oc- His remarks will appear hereafter in food relief is used to feed those North Korean casion, and not just for women’s sports the Extensions of Remarks.] September 3, 1997 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6765 CONGRATULATIONS TO ALDINE subject areas then work with the know many of the newly elected Mem- INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT teachers on integrating those common bers did not consider it as a vacation, The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a strategies into their curriculum. as a recess. It was a very good time to previous order of the House, the gen- The curriculum is based on the con- get back home to really probe the tleman from Texas [Mr. GREEN] is rec- tinual assessment of student perform- minds and listen. And I think if any- ognized for 5 minutes. ance, analysis of student performance thing that we have been able to accom- Mr. GREEN. Mr. Speaker, I would data, and the development of bench- plish that has been the most fruitful is like to associate myself with the re- marks, targets, and then implementa- that we stop shouting long enough in marks of the gentlewoman from Texas tion. It is a structured system to en- this body to listen to what the Amer- [Ms. JACKSON-LEE], my colleague from sure that the skills are mastered and ican people have to say. Houston. That championship game last applied to each student’s learning. And when we began to listen to those week was exciting not only for those of Not only has there been success for men and women that have been strug- us who are from Houston, but all across Aldine Independent School District, gling to keep a roof overhead and keep the country. but there has also been success for the food on the table, what we heard them Mr. Speaker, today I am proud to be State of Texas. Students across the tell us is that they were working here on the floor of the House and State of Texas have improved their longer and harder and yet had less to pleased to announce the high perform- performance on TAAS testing, TAAS is show for it at the end of the month and ance rating for a school district in a statewide assessment of skills, from wondering where their tax monies had Houston, Aldine Independent School 55 percent in 1994 to 73 percent in 1997. gone. District. It was recognized by the In comparison, Aldine ISD students b 1915 Texas Education Agency for the qual- have improved their mastery from 49 ity of their program. percent in 1994, to 75 percent in 1997. Basically what I was hearing, in a se- As the parent of two graduates of Al- For the State of Texas as a whole, ries of town hall meetings, was that dine schools, and my wife who teaches the figures show an increase in the the people back home in Missouri’s in the Aldine schools, and representing, number of highest performing districts Ninth Congressional District wanted us along with the gentlewoman from and a decrease in the number of lowest to change our ways here in Washington Texas [Ms. JACKSON-LEE], about half performing districts statewide, despite so that they would not have to change the district, it is a pleasure to see the tougher performance standards for the their ways back home. school district receive the recognition years 1996 and 1997. Again, each year I know certainly that there has been that it deserves. the performance standards get tougher, a wide difference of opinion on the According to the latest data released as we know, the worldwide competition budget agreement that we put to- by the Texas Education Agency, Aldine gets tougher. gether. Certainly future political can- ranks among the Texas high perform- Texas has the most high school sen- didates, I was flipping around the chan- ance school districts. This rating was iors taking the SAT test than any nels and watching C–SPAN and some of based on 1996–1997 Texas Assessment of State in the country, at 48 percent, and the speeches where future politicians Academic Skills, our Statewide TAAS these scores have continued to im- or those seeking higher office have scores, attendance records, and low prove. Texas has brought education to talked about what we did in a negative dropout rate. the forefront. It is a priority for every- way. Yet I did not sense that at all. A Aldine is the largest recognized one, and that is an important distinc- series of town meetings in the Ninth school in the State with a student en- tion. Congressional District of Missouri were rollment of approximately 48,000 stu- Again, Mr. Speaker, I am glad to be overwhelmingly positive. dents. To earn a recognized rating, 75 here this evening and recognize the The folks that came out recognized percent of all students in each students contribution and the success of the Al- that we were on the path to a smaller, group, district-wide, must pass each dine Independent School District to the smarter government. They were appre- TAAS subject area. In addition, the education of our children. ciative of the fact that the centerpiece dropout rate for all students cannot ex- f of our budget agreement, the tax relief ceed 3.5 percent. They must also main- package, was a child credit that will LISTENING TO THE AMERICAN tain an attendance rate of at least 94 benefit the parents of 41 million chil- PEOPLE percent. dren across this country, and the fact Only a few schools have reached the The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under that nearly 2 million households will high performing level of recognized or the Speaker’s announced policy of Jan- not have a Federal income tax liability exemplary and Aldine is one of the four uary 7, 1997, the gentleman from Mis- just because of this $500 child credit. ‘‘recognized’’ school districts in Harris souri [Mr. HULSHOF] is recognized for 60 They were appreciative of the child County, TX. minutes as the designee of the major- health initiative that we have com- By achieving a recognized designa- ity leader. menced, that we put together in this tion from the State, it is a great honor Mr. HULSHOF. Mr. Speaker, con- budget plan to help the Nation’s most for everybody in the school district. tinuing the tradition that we have vulnerable that are uninsured. And I But it is more than that. It recognizes tried to begin as newly elected Repub- tried to explain and made clear that each individual’s hard work and com- lican Members focusing on positive this was not a new Federal entitlement mitment to education. success stories across the district, as that we had imposed but a way to More specifically, a special thank you know just as our Nation’s children reach out with local innovative solu- you for the dedication of the curricu- are returning to schools all across this tions to this national problem of unin- lum program directors, principals, the great land, we lawmakers are returning sured children. teachers, the teaching assistants, and here to Washington and I think prob- They were certainly appreciative, as the students. It is a collaborative effort ably sharing some of the mixed emo- education is very much on the minds of by these individuals which guarantee tions that our schoolchildren have as the folks in the Ninth Congressional the continued success of the school dis- far as returning here to this establish- District, that we have education tui- trict. ment. tion credits that we are putting in One of the reasons for the success of What we do here, of course, is very place so that children that dream of the Aldine Independent School District important with the bills and the de- college can actually get there, and is their curriculum. The staff develop- bates and our struggles here. But I those that have been laboring under ment focuses on teamwork and giving think what we do pales in comparison the weight of a student loan might teachers of all subject areas the chance to the real life struggles that our con- have a little bit of his or her burden to support academic success. Each stituents, the American people, are fac- eased by allowing the deduction of in- teacher in the district receives the ing each and every day. terest on that student loan. same materials containing the same We talk about this 4-week period of Certainly we recognize that a strong common strategies throughout the dis- time here in August, or just as August economy is vital because as we help trict. Program directors from different past, as a recess or a vacation. And I educate and invest in our children, the H6766 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 3, 1997 future of this country, we have to But certainly we do not have quite Through those discussions, I was make sure that there are jobs avail- the expanse of territory to cover as the really reminded, too, of why we do able. And clearly people recognize that gentleman from Montana [Mr. HILL], what we do because really this is about we do not create jobs here in Washing- who is not with us, or the gentleman people and about giving them more ton; it is the American people, it is the from South Dakota who has the entire control of their lives. And I was re- business people, it is small business State. minded, as well, of the difference be- across this country that creates the Mr. Speaker, I yield to the gentleman tween the way that the Washington jobs. And so clearly we want to make from South Dakota [Mr. THUNE]. glitterati views things and the way sure that every investor, every inven- Mr. THUNE. Mr. Speaker, I thank that people back in the real world view tor, every small business person, every the gentleman from Missouri and things. And there are a couple of dis- farmer has some relief from this very would say that over the course of the tinctions I would like to draw to my burdensome tax on savings and invest- August break, I had the opportunity to colleagues’ attention here this evening ment that we have come to call capital travel over much of the 77,000 square because I think it was a great re- gains, and they were very appreciative miles that compose our State of South minder; any of us, when we go home, that we have at least taken a step in Dakota. As I traveled the highways and often have these things brought to our the right direction regarding a reduc- byways and places like Sturgis and attention. tion on that burdensome tax. Spearfish and Custer and Rapid City But one of the things that we have Many of the women that came to and Hill City and Mitchell and been talking about a lot is for the first town hall meetings were astounded to Yankton and Watertown and Pierre time in over 30 years we will have bal- learn that women in this country are and Gettysburg and Clark and Aber- anced the budget in this country, and starting businesses at twice the rate of deen and Sioux Falls, my home town of that was a priority for all of us here. men in this country. But oftentimes Murdo, made it there, places like Wall All of us who are here in the Chamber women have that very difficult choice, and winding up at the State Fair in this evening talked a lot about that do I stay home with family or do I re- Huron, we had an opportunity, I think, throughout the course of our cam- join the work force? So we have to really get in touch with the real paign, about lowering the tax burden reached out to them and all small busi- world and remember what we are all on hard-working families, men and ness people that want to work from about here. women in this country. And it was great, because I had my their homes by restoring the flexibility In my State those are ranchers, wife and two little girls with me. They through the home office deduction; and small business people; those are people had an opportunity to return and enjoy the American people, at least those in who are trying to make an honest liv- the freedoms that you have on the the Ninth Congressional District, see ing and just really hoping that Govern- windswept prairies of South Dakota. ment will sort of stay out of their way. that and applaud that as a step in the In fact, my 7-year-old, who is sort of right direction. a tomboy, enjoys doing things outside, And one of the things I saw was a tax Finally, as we have talked about one afternoon when we were at the foundation study which enumerated many times in this Chamber, I person- grandparents in Gettysburg, she said and broke down the tax savings and ally believe it is immoral that the Fed- something to the effect, as her sister benefits that were in this particular eral Government can take up to 55 per- asked her if she could paint her toe- package for the State of South Dakota. cent of a family farm or family busi- nails, she said, no, I have got frogs and It was about $416 million in tax relief ness at death. Death should not be a snakes to catch outside. And she came to our State, some 247 million coming taxable event. Certainly we will be back with a snake hanging on her from the family tax credit, but also es- having future discussions about death hand, much to her grandmother’s cha- tate tax relief for the 34,000 farmers tax relief, but we have made some posi- grin. I think she about had a connip- and ranchers in South Dakota. tive strides by raising the exemption so tion when that happened. The 66 percent of the people in South that family farms and family busi- Those are the types of things that Dakota who own their own homes will nesses and those that labor can pass people in our part of the country are have the opportunity to enjoy the ben- the fruits of their labors on to future able to enjoy. It is a wonderful place to efits of capital gains tax relief should generations. be from, and it was great to be able to they decide to sell that home. Income I know one of the polls that some- travel. averaging can for farmers. There was body showed me as we were leaving One of the things that we did while an opportunity in there, as well, when town 4 weeks ago indicated that Con- we were out there is, we held a series of it comes to the whole area of deferring gress’ approval rating was at a high meetings on transportation issues. income and allowing farmers and level, at least the highest level since Those issues are critical in our State ranchers, people who have very volatile the early 1970’s, and sadly our approval because we rely so heavily on our farm- and erratic incomes to spread that over rating in this body was above our dis- to-market transportation system, be- a period of years. approval for the first time in several cause we are predominantly an agricul- There were so many things that were decades. And of course that is a sad tural State, but also we rely quite positive in this. The one thing I will event, but we need to continue to focus heavily upon tourism as an industry. say though, and I heard this over and on our agenda that we will be bringing So roads and bridges and transpor- over, is that we made a step in the to the floor in the weeks and months tation are critical in our States. right direction; that we are lowering ahead before we take our final recess I had the opportunity to listen to the tax burden in this country, but we for the end of the year. people who were interested in transpor- did nothing to simplify what is already We have got a lot of work yet to do. tation policy issues, people like may- an inordinately complicated Tax Code. But I think we need to focus a little bit ors and county commissioners and I would hope that as we progress on some of the success stories and State officials and economic develop- down the road in the next year or so, some of the things that we have lis- ment experts and Chamber people and we can continue to draw attention to tened to the people across this country those who are in the business of build- the complexity of the Tax Code in this in our respective districts. ing roads and bridges in the construc- country and how difficult it is for peo- I see I have various colleagues that tion business. One of the recurring ple to comply. We have added to what are here to join me. I think first I themes was, when you rewrite this already are 471 different forms, and we would yield to the gentleman from Federal highway bill out there in spend some 5 billion man-hours a year South Dakota [Mr. THUNE]. It is inter- Washington, please do it in a way that complying with the Tax Code in Amer- esting that each of us has our own re- maximizes our flexibility and that al- ica. spective districts and I know our friend lows us and enables us to make the de- I was talking with an accountant in and colleague, the gentleman from cisions about what the highest needs Pierre, and he was thanking his lucky Kansas [Mr. MORAN], I think was one of are at the local level; and try and get stars for what we had done because it the most ambitious and he embarked away from this micromanaging of Fed- was job security for him. But at the on a 60-plus county tour and made sure eral highway programs and policies and same time, it has made it that much that he blanketed his district. priorities from Washington, DC. more complex and complicated and September 3, 1997 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6767 really overwhelming, I think, to a lot shining city on the hill that attracts And in town meeting after town of people in this country who try and people from all over the world because meeting, we heard the same thing, fill out tax returns. they have hope and opportunity and about an appreciation for the fact that So I was reminded again of the need freedom to explore the American their representatives in Congress, not only to simplify, to make things dream here, to pursue happiness in though they often differ, stood for the less complicated, but to take the power their particular way and that is really principles that they believed in, and, and control out of Washington, out of what we are about. This was a great re- more than that, were willing to listen the hands of the Federal Government, minder as I traveled across my State of to those of differing viewpoints, to try out of bureaucrats, and to give it back South Dakota about why we are here, and work together for the good of the to families and main streets and State what we do, why we do it; and again it country, to posture less and to build and local governments and put that de- was a great privilege and honor to get policy more, and generally gave posi- cision-making back in the living room. a feel for the people that we represent. tive marks, although they understand I think that is really what this whole I would like to hear as well from that what we did was really a down thing is about. It is what this move- some of my other friends who are on payment on the future, that there is ment is about. the floor here this evening. still much work to be done, but that As we continue down the road, as we Mr. HULSHOF. Mr. Speaker, I think they supported the direction where we have started with the balanced budget the word that the gentleman used, ‘‘op- were going. and lower taxes, the next step along timism,’’ I think that is probably what The thing that struck me more than the way is to bring simplification, to I heard most often from the folks that anything in the time that I spent in lessen the regulatory burden, to con- I had a chance to visit with. All the my district and out of it, which I want tinue to lower taxes and to bring some polls and surveys that these consult- to talk about in a minute, was the con- accountability to Government so that ants and political pundits seem to find tinuing generosity of the American the people in this country know that so important, I think truly when you people. Most of the folks in my district they are getting a good bang for the get out of this place and you go back are working hard to support their fami- taxpayer dollar. I think all that in- home and you listen to people in town lies. Many of them have to have both volves more flexibility. hall meetings, you just open it up for spouses working in order to meet the We have a notion here in Washington discussion and you say, what is on your needs of their children, or in some I think that more is better, and frank- minds, I think some of the themes that cases they are taking care of their par- ly I think that the people of this coun- you have mentioned are exactly what ents, helping their neighbors, but in try are much better off, my children are the prevailing thoughts of most case after case, we saw people who still are eminently better off in a form of Americans, they do want less of Wash- after all that gave of their time as vol- government where we do not gauge ington. unteers, in their libraries, in their hos- success or measure success by how pitals, in their schools, in community b 1930 much we take tax dollars from hard- and youth organizations. Despite all working families, run it through the I certainly trust the folks on Ducelle the demands on them at work and at Washington bureaucracy and then re- Avenue in Columbia, MO, my home- home, they still found time to be vol- distribute it in the form of grants. town. I trust them to make the deci- unteers on behalf of others. We are a lot better off when we allow sions with their tax money a lot better Which brings me to my second point, people to keep the money, the hard- than I trust the 435 of us that assemble and that is, I spent the remaining third earned dollars, and make the decisions here to decide how that money should of the month of August as a volunteer about where best to use those. That is, be spent. They clearly, the folks back myself in a couple of places: First, not I would hope, how we would measure home, are appreciative of the fact that far from here, near Fredericksburg, success in the work that we are about we were letting them keep money, VA, where I was a volunteer, along here. their own money. This is not some sort with 5,000 other volunteers, at the na- We have embarked on an important of a rebate, that we are giving them tional jamboree of the Boy Scouts of journey. It is the first step in what I back their money. It is allowing them America, an event that is held every 4 hope will be a long process of restoring to keep the money they have earned. I years. We had 30,000 young people from and taking control and power and deci- heard some of the same themes that all across this country who were able sion-making and authority out of the gentleman mentioned. to come and spend about a week to- Washington and putting it back in the I know the gentleman from Indiana gether because we had 5,000 men and hands of families and individuals. That [Mr. PEASE] also was quite busy. In women who gave of their vacations, crosses so many different areas. You fact, his staff, as I understand it, had who left time away from their families, look at the world of education, allow- him crisscrossing the district. He saw who paid their own way to come and ing parents to have more decision- himself coming and going, as I under- work, and sometimes in 90 and 100 de- making authority, more choice on stand. gree temperature, most of them living where they send their kids. Mr. PEASE. I did, indeed. I was for- in tents, so that young people could And so these are things that I heard tunate to spend about two-thirds of my have a good experience. The barracks as I traveled across the State, and as I time during the month of August doing where I stayed with other adult volun- said, it concluded what was an about a the same thing that my colleagues teers had a cross-section of America. week at the State Fair, which is an op- from South Dakota, from Colorado, We had Protestants and Catholics and portunity to get a broad cross-section from New Jersey, from Missouri did; Jews, Buddhists, people of all creeds of people in South Dakota, to hear that is, spending time with the good and colors, who care about young peo- what is on their minds. And, frankly, I folks in western Indiana, which com- ple and who care about the principles think that they are for the most part prises my district. And my experience that scouting tries to teach, which are very upbeat, very optimistic about was very similar to those that have character development and citizenship where we are headed, and I think that been related here this evening. People training and personal fitness, and they is a great tribute to what we have ac- from western Indiana I think are rep- gave of their time, many of them, for 2 complished as a Republican Congress, resentative of all that is best in our and 3 weeks, and came and labored. We because the things that we have ac- country. They are folks that care had an admiral, we had factory work- complished and where we are today, in about their kids, they care about their ers, we had school teachers, a cross- my view, are a testimony to and a trib- communities, they care about their section of America who gave up their ute to the ability of the Republican country, and in most cases they really time on behalf of young people, and Congress to move the agenda in that do not ask a lot of us, basically for us they did it cheerfully, an example, I direction. to leave them alone. They can make think, of all that is best in our coun- And I think probably that my col- decisions for themselves, they will try’s traditions, of trying to instill leagues here, the gentleman from Mis- take care of their neighbors, they will moral values in our young people and souri, heard the same thing. I would reach out the helping hand to those not waiting and in fact in some cases hope that we would continue to be the who need it. resisting the Government doing it but H6768 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 3, 1997 taking it as their own responsibility to tricts, it was refreshing and reinforcing body does not run up to me at the gro- care for young people in their neigh- and reminded me why it is important cery store or the post office and say, borhoods, in their communities and for us to be here and represent those ‘‘Congressman, I’ve been working hard- across the country. values and do the best we can to sup- er, I’ve been working longer and it Part of the time I also spent at the port those folks back home. seems like I take less and less home,’’ Boy Scouts’ facility in northeast New Mr. HULSHOF. I appreciate the gen- and that perception is in fact the re- Mexico, near Cimmaron, where the tleman’s report and certainly the good ality over the years, and it is one that gentleman from New Mexico [Mr. work that he has done, especially many has really been the source of frustra- REDMOND], who was elected in a special of the themes that he has talked about tion for people throughout the country election earlier this year, met me at a as far as volunteerism and helping our and it is the message that I think in- town hall meeting in Colfax County, young people. I had the opportunity to spired many of us to run for office in northeast New Mexico, and we talked visit briefly with a group called Kids in the first place. Fortunately with the to the folks there about the same sorts Motion in Hannibal, MO, which is in- Republican majority, we are able to go of thing we have been talking about teresting because this was actually to work on those very issues right here here, and where I was also able to started, I think, 2 years ago, or last on this floor. spend a little volunteer time at summer, that took at-risk youth in the The package that we constructed a Philmont Scout Ranch, which is 138,000 Hannibal communities. This was not a month ago, the tax cut package, is acres in the mountains of northeast government program. This was largely something that changed the message New Mexico where I saw another exam- the efforts of two women, two business- that I heard this last month being back ple of volunteerism, where young peo- women who chose to try to make a dif- home. Rather than the consistent com- ple, teenagers, teenage boys from all ference. And so they reached out to the plaints that we have always heard over the country paid their own way to business community to have jobs that about high and excessive taxation here come to the mountains of northeast would pay young people to try to help in Washington, I began to hear people New Mexico and volunteer to work, in provide some positive role models, a at the grocery store and the post office most cases hard work, breaking rocks little bit of institutional setting in the coming up and thanking me for push- and building trails in the mountains of sense of teaching them how to get up ing and helping to support the Repub- northeast New Mexico, where they on time and to get themselves ready lican tax reform message again that we could learn ways that we can protect for work. It was just an extraordinary constructed a month ago. Let me sug- the environment for the future, learn experience when you realize that there gest that it is a good first step and it the good lessons of personal respon- is this sort of spirit in a small town is welcome news, but it is not the full sibility, both for each other and for the where you recognize that there is a measure of tax relief. We are going to environment, and giving of their time community problem, or a problem come back and try to push for more at and their energy as volunteers for within your community, and rather another point in time. But for the first other young people’s futures who will than reach out to the government for time in 16 years, the American public benefit from that scouting facility in some sort of assistance, here are two has received a tax cut package. The northeast New Mexico. Eighteen thou- women that chose on their own accord first time in 16 years. sand young people over the course of a to try to make a difference. I think Let me just go through some of the summer come to Philmont Scout this spirit pervades across the country. numbers on this and tell about what I Ranch. They come at their own ex- We need to help reinvigorate that spir- heard back home in response. Over 10 pense and they come with volunteers, it. years, $260 billion in taxes, that is what men and women from across the coun- Mr. PEASE. I really believe in that. we will pay, fewer taxes that we will try who pay their own way, give up I believe it is our responsibility as a pay as opposed to the plan that was their vacations to spend time with Congress to make it possible for folks constructed when the Democrats were young people. to give more of themselves as volun- in charge of the Congress. That in- I am reminded, too, that the Boy teers, to reduce the tax burden on cludes a $500 per child tax credit, the Scouts, along with many other organi- American families so that they have capital gains tax cuts, the estate tax zations across the country were par- more time to spend with their families relief, education tax credit, expanded ticipants in the President’s Summit for and as volunteers in their churches and IRAs. Those individuals who under- Volunteerism that was held at Phila- in community organizations, to rein- stand that they have been paying more vigorate that tradition of American delphia earlier this year. They are rep- and more and more to the Federal Gov- volunteerism that has persisted despite resentative of that spirit in this coun- ernment and working harder and hard- all of the time that we have taken try where people take responsibility er are exactly right. Let me direct my away from families having to work to for young people. They do not wait for colleagues’ attention to the chart here pay their taxes. I think it is our re- the Government to take responsibility. at my left. In fact, in many cases their agenda is sponsibility to give them back that Back in 1950, the Federal tax burden to make sure that young people have time and that freedom. I know as the was 6 percent of the family budget. In the positive example of role models gentleman has seen, so many will step 1994, the Federal tax burden jumped to forward as volunteers to help in their that are concerned about their moral 23 percent. That is a remarkable esca- communities and it is exciting to see development, their spiritual develop- lation in the tax bite that this Federal that happen. ment, their physical development, and Mr. HULSHOF. I appreciate the gen- Government has taken away from they take that responsibility them- tleman. I see that our colleague from American families. When we consider selves. The Boy Scouts as a national out West in Colorado is here and ap- all taxes, State, local and Federal organization have committed between pears to have some visual aid along taxes, the total tax burden is almost 40 1997 and 2000, 200 million hours of com- with him. I would be happy to yield to percent of a family budget. The farm- munity service in neighborhoods across ers and ranchers and small business the gentleman from Colorado, Mr. BOB this country where young people and SCHAFFER. owners and the heads of families that I their adult volunteers will work on be- Mr. BOB SCHAFFER of Colorado. I met with tell me that that 40 percent is half of their neighbors. All of that sort thank the gentleman from Missouri for far too excessive. I was in a Labor Day of experience and the folks that I saw yielding. parade on Monday in the small town of in libraries and hospitals and schools It was a great month out in Colorado. Windsor in Colorado. Windsor is one of across my district remind me again of Colorado, of course, being a western those towns that is just your typical that wonderful American tradition of State with our sense of rugged individ- American small town. Great patriotic personal responsibility, being account- ualism, we do not like Washington all families, people who love their work, able for yourself and helping your that much, I have to admit, and I am love their community, will stand up for neighbors, and even though it was tir- afraid to say, and for good reason in the flag and love their country, a town ing to spend that time as a personal many cases. that has sent many, many war heroes volunteer and to spend those hours, as Since being elected to Congress, to do battle to defend freedom and lib- we all did, traveling around our dis- hardly a day has gone by when some- erty. After that parade we held a little September 3, 1997 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6769 barbecue and the numbers of individ- that believes we can trust citizens, we I am delighted to hear that the gen- uals who came up and said thank you can trust taxpayers, we can trust them tleman from Colorado made his way to for cutting the capital gains taxes be- to spend the dollars that the govern- our State of South Dakota and helped cause that has real implications on ment used to take from them and allow our tourism economy out there. We running a capital intensive operation them to put it toward the things that hope that you will come back often. like a farm, thank you for cutting the they believe to be important. They are Mr. HULSHOF. Mr. Speaker, I was estate taxes, the inheritance tax be- small businesses, they are farms, they asked this question, you get a lot of cause now after working 30 years and are child health care, the charity of different questions when you are at putting all of my hard work and assets their choice, their church, their syna- these town meetings and hosting these into a farm that produces and is suc- gogue, their community. listening posts, but this one question cessful, I finally know that I am going And we have also decided that within had me stumped for a second. I was to be able to hand that farm over to that framework we are going to create asked by a constituent if I could only my children. Think about that for a more opportunity in a way that frees pass one bill in this Chamber, what moment. Having the prospect of work- people from the burden of an oppressive would that one bill be. And I say, well, ing so many years and putting so much welfare state and instead rewards hon- if I could write it and could make sure into the ground and into the soil and est hard work, real opportunity, and that it would actually be enacted into into the family farm, that farm is more makes Americans free again. law, it would be this: that the parents than just an economic enterprise. It is That is the real difference that we of our children would teach their chil- the definition of the character of many have made here in Washington, and I dren individual responsibility and right in the West and many in my State, can tell you it is not just talk after 1 from wrong. most people in my State. The very no- month being back in the district and But clearly that bill cannot be tion that upon your death the Federal talking with constituents and being in passed; that bill will never see the light of day. It is not government’s place to Government will get there first before your district, too, by the way. Mr. take the place of a family. That is your children do is something that just THUNE from South Dakota spent a lit- something that we have to encourage frightens the daylights out of many tle time, a couple days, traveling families to do, many of the themes people. We are finally providing real through South Dakota. It is a consist- that you just mentioned. But if we hope, real opportunity. The suggestion ent message: The work that we have could pass any bill, that would be it, to that we have changed Washington as a accomplished here in Washington is help parents teach kids, their own chil- Republican Party, that we have come hitting home, it is making a big dif- dren, responsibility and right from here and have decided that the estate ference, and the American public is re- wrong. taxes must end, that we at our first sponding very favorably. Mr. THUNE. If the gentleman will But again I would be happy to yield. step will reduce the effect of estate Mr. THUNE. Well, I was just going to yield on that point, I think you make taxation, eventually getting to the say I think what is encouraging to me an important point, because one thing point of abolishing them, I hope. as I travel in my State, and I think has been lost, and sometimes in peo- b around this country, is we are seeing a 1945 ple’s minds, is the important changes resurgence of an emphasis upon those That is a message that was just em- that were made in the area of welfare types of things. I think for years there braced throughout the district, and it reform, and I think it points to the fact has been an expectation that govern- was a delight to go home and hear that the American public was leading ment could solve many of these prob- that. the way on the issue because they ar- lems, but I think Washington is realiz- I also attended a conference spon- rived at the conclusion long before ing, as I said earlier, what families and sored by the Independence Institute, Washington did that the current wel- churches and communities have known and the Independence Institute is a free fare system was an abysmal failure, all along, and that is that it is the self- market organization, and the topic and you did not have to look very far initiative, it is the ability to take they were discussing was welfare re- to see that, and what is encouraging in these things into their own hands and form, because last year the Republican listening to Mr. PEASE from Indiana to help resolve those issues, and to pro- Congress totally revised the welfare who was here earlier talking about vol- vide the kind of model and the kind of system in the United States and moved unteerism and about the restoration of atmosphere in which these types of val- welfare authority out of Washington values in this country that have built ues can be nurtured and grown, and one and pushed it back to the States in it and made it great, things like the of the things that was really stymieing block grant fashion. work ethic, like personal responsibil- that was the welfare system that has Let me tell you, it was truly exciting ity, self-discipline, those are the things been in place for the past 30 years, and to go to these meetings with State leg- that are really encouraging, and I when that was changed, it broke the islators, with county commissioners, think the American public led the way chain of dependency upon an old sys- with local welfare workers, and hear on that. tem that was outdated and did not them talk about the remarkable things I think that Washington finally got work, and it created, I think it re- that they are coming up with to reform the picture, and we have changed the newed, this whole attitude that we are the welfare system, to actually create mentality and the philosophy in this seeing in this country that the things systems on a county-by-county basis town, finally, to recognize as well that that you just mentioned, the impor- where people can make the transition we needed a new model and something tance of hard work, individual respon- from dependency on the Federal Gov- that again put a premium and a value sibility, self-discipline, the work ethic, ernment to total self-sufficiency. and a priority on those types of values the things that again have been the And the numbers were remarkable as and that kind of an ethic. And that is building blocks. well. The numbers of people that are the thing that has been really encour- I mean, we cannot legislate that, but, making that transition and finding the aging again about getting out there frankly, we can do a lot, I think, to absolute joy of honest hard work and and hearing that from people, and I create an atmosphere in which those self-sufficiency is one of the most ex- hope that we will continue to be the things will thrive, and that is really citing things, I think, that I could have impetus that will move us in a direc- again what we are about here. heard, and again thanking the Repub- tion on other issues that restores Mr. HULSHOF. In order to be geo- lican Congress for changing the way power back home, out of Washington, graphically correct, I know we have the government thinks about how we DC. heard from the Midwest and certainly organize our society. And welfare reform is a perfect exam- from the West, but to make sure that We are no longer looking to Washing- ple of that, is something for which the we have all parts of this great land cov- ton and people here in the city of big Members of this body and the last Con- ered, I am happy to yield to the gen- government to organize and manage gress should take great credit because tleman from New Jersey [Mr. PAPPAS]. our lives. We have discovered, we have they have redefined and changed the Mr. PAPPAS. I thank the gentleman, decided, and we have fought very hard way that America thinks about that and once again I appreciate the oppor- for and passionately for a government important issue. tunity to participate in this and to H6770 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 3, 1997 view the visual aids of my friend from hour and a half of the morning session, Mr. HULSHOF. Mr. Speaker, I thank Colorado. I always look forward to spoke to a group of CEOs in the morn- the gentleman. what he is to present. ing, at breakfast, and then spoke to I was in Wentzville, MO, on the east- My month back in New Jersey was their general membership at lunch and ern side of my district at the high pretty diverse, as it normally is, even participated in several Q and A ses- school, and it was pointed out to me when I am just home for a weekend. sions, and they were thrilled, to say that in a normal day, if you just con- The highlight of my month really, the least, of the approved balanced sider your actions of a normal day, though, was the annual Somerset budget plan that we enacted and the when you wake up and grab a first cup County 4–H Fair, which is my home President signed and, of course, the tax of coffee you are paying a sales tax, county which I am very proud of. relief measures. when you drive to work you pay a gas We talk about our fair as the largest But they reminded me, and was not tax, when you get to work you pay an free fair east of the Mississippi, and we anything that they needed to remind income tax, when you flip on the light believe that it is. It is a 3-day event. me, but it is important to hear it and you pay an electricity tax, when you This was our 49th annual fair, and typi- important to know that people under- flush the toilet you pay a water tax, cally during that 3 days we have any- stand that the balanced budget plan is when you get home, if you are lucky where between 75,000 and 80,000 people just that, it is a plan. It is a plan that enough to have a home, you pay a attend the event. It is one that I am is only good if we follow it, and it is a property tax, and, as we have talked proud to be a part of. plan that will take several years to about, if you are fortunate enough to enact to see that very important goal I have been an adult volunteer there work hard and save and want to pass of a balanced budget become a reality. for many years and mainly because of on to the next generation, your kids, I am certainly committed to that, and the wholesome environment and whole- your descendents, then there is the they understand that it is important some activities that the 4–H program Government wanting another bite with for them, for their employees, for the provides. this Federal death tax. We, again, in our county are proud of future of their businesses, and, in turn, for the future of many of those who are The problem is not that people do not the fact that it is the largest 4–H pro- pay enough, the problem is that we gram in the State of New Jersey and employers. I was encouraged to see how enthu- here in Washington have been spending one that I know is prevalent in many siastic they were about that, but equal- too much, and I think we have begun communities throughout the United ly as important, the tax relief measure. to try to get our arms wrapped around States and really throughout the I have said here, and I have said this in this problem of wasteful Washington world. my district and in other parts of our spending, and, as you mentioned, it is 4–H, though, is not just for agricul- State, that the tax relief measure is a simply a plan. We need to continue to tural areas. While parts of my district, first step to what I will hope to see sev- make sure that the people in this body, agriculture is very strong, yes, even in eral steps, second step beginning next certainly we want to provide for the es- New Jersey agriculture is an important year, and you, Mr. HULSHOF, as a mem- sential services, but make sure that part of our economy, but the activities, ber of the Committee on Ways and the people that come here from all the ways in which young people can Means, I know will be very active in parts of the country recognize that this grow and can be involved again in ac- seeing additional tax relief measures is a critically important goal that we tivities that help them as individuals put forth and that we can debate and need to continue our path toward a bal- and help them grow and expand their consider here in the Congress. That is anced budget. horizons and their experiences in life, something that I am committed to. Mr. DAN SCHAEFER of Colorado. If are such that I think it is very impor- Just this afternoon, I spoke to a gen- the gentleman will yield, I am so glad tant and why I support it as much as I tleman who is a small businessman in that the gentleman from New Jersey is do. the central part of my district. He had here, Mr. Pappas, because I remember The activities that center around e-mailed me and was frustrated over when we first met as freshmen coming county fairs in my part of the country, what he viewed as the abandonment of here, the first thing out of Mike in the State of New Jersey, I think the Republican majority of our com- Pappas’ mouth was home office deduc- adds to the attractiveness of the range mitment to provide for tax and regu- tion. of activities in our State. My district latory relief, and in speaking to him I b 2000 runs from the western part of the corresponded with him, but I decided to State, the shores of the Delaware telephone him as well to let him know, We have got to get the home office River, and it runs to the east, almost to assure him, that that is not the deduction for small business people to the Atlantic Ocean, and while I do case, that what we in the House, Re- back in my home district. That is true not have any of the coast, as we call it publican side, are attempting to do is in my area as well, as we talk about the Jersey shore, as part of my dis- to govern in a bipartisan fashion, rec- making the welfare transition from de- trict, the economy of my district and ognizing that President Clinton, while pendency to complete independence, to the people of my district, as I do, take he may not agree to the desire of tax realizing the economic trends taking advantage of the Jersey shore. And relief that many of us would like to place in America toward smaller busi- during the course of the month I had see, yet we need to meet each other nesses and independent employment. an opportunity to visit many of the halfway and that we have not aban- Our goal as Republicans has been in shore communities. doned our principles, we view this as a this Congress to try to find ways to tri- Tourism is the second largest part of first step and that we are committed, ple the number of minority-owned busi- New Jersey’s economy, and I believe just as he is, to trying to see things nesses throughout the country as well. that the activities along the Jersey such as the elimination of the capital I have to tell you, when I went back shore and activities such as the Somer- gains tax and the elimination of the home I heard so many people thanking set County 4–H Fair add to that eco- death tax as goals just as important as us that MIKE PAPPAS’ legislation made nomic activity of our State. the plan to see a budget that is in bal- it into the final tax cut bill on the Another couple of things that were a ance. home office deduction. part of my month were meeting with So I heard for that 4-week period Finally, we are going to be able to many business people, business men what I hear on the telephone during provide parity to small business own- and women. Early part of August, I was the week when I am here through let- ers, parity with respect to the expenses the participant of an all-day seminar ters, through the time that I am home associated with running a business out that was hosted by the Princeton during weekends or long weekends, and of your home that large employers Chamber of Commerce, which is a very I was just very happy to see that peo- enjoy throughout the country as well. prominent community in my district. ple are encouraged, people do have Since you are here tonight, I want to They have done this for several years hope, but they also recognize that it is thank you, and just let you and the and have had a Member of Congress an ongoing process and one that they constituents back in New Jersey know there to meet with their membership are willing to work with us on seeing that this is an important item that you one on one, which I did for about an those goals become realities. fought for that has had a tremendous September 3, 1997 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6771 impact, not just in your home State of to balance the budget is just that, a types of things that might be impor- New Jersey, but had an impact in Mis- plan that needs to be followed. But also tant to the future of this country. But souri, South Dakota and Colorado. taking up the suggestion of Speaker instead of having it lost through the You can drop me out of an airplane GINGRICH, and that is people in my dis- waste, the fraud and the abuse that so in a parachute anywhere in this coun- trict believe that the tax on savings oftentimes is endemic in big govern- try, and I guarantee people struggling and investment and the death tax ment and bureaucracy, that is the kind to be entrepreneurs and finding a way needs to be eliminated, that we need to of thing that we are going to continue to get their small business open and band together and involve people in the to focus upon, try and root that out, operating out of their homes appre- community that may not have ever and see that those savings are passed ciate the jobs created, thanks to the been involved in the legislative process on to the hard-working men and home office deduction. Would the gen- before, to help educate people within women in this country. tleman talk a little more about that? our districts and the communities, to So I think that too is an important Mr. HULSHOF. If the gentleman help make the people in the local point and something that I think all of would yield, I also wanted to ask you, media, who may not be involved in us are very concerned about and want you have had the opportunity I think these issues as the national media is, to continue to pursue as part of our to go into another district in Colorado, aware that this is important for every- agenda for the future. I think that of another freshman Mem- one’s future, and not just the rich as is Mr. Speaker, I yield back to the gen- ber. Did you go into the inner city of too often heard in this Chamber, but tleman from Missouri. I think our time Denver at one point? With regard to for small business people, their em- is winding up. some of these themes, you talk about ployees, people who could be employed Mr. HULSHOF. I think the gen- the minority business people. Did you by small- and medium-sized businesses tleman is correct. I again appreciate talk about some of these conservative in the future. my colleagues for joining me and par- principles back in Denver? So those that may be watching this, ticipating in this special order. Mr. BOB SCHAFFER of Colorado. whether you live in the central New I think, Mr. Speaker, to those Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for Jersey area or the 12th district of Colo- naysayers that have picked apart these inquiring about that. My district, the rado or Missouri or South Dakota, if past weeks’ aspects of what we have 4th district of Colorado, is essentially you are interested in being a part of done here, we should not let the perfect the eastern half of the State, a very this, contact any of us, contact Mem- be the enemy of the good. Clearly we rural area, about the size of Indiana in bers of Congress who really are desir- are not here to rest on past accom- square mileage. My district does not ous of organizing public education ac- plishments. We have a tremendous include Denver, but I did an exchange tivities to see this ball moved down the amount of work yet to do, and we have with a Member of the other party field, so to speak. just touched the surface. where I spent a day in her district and Mr. THUNE. Mr. Speaker, I appre- Mr. THUNE talked about trying to she in mine. We went to inner-city ciate the hard work of the gentleman crack down on fraud and abuse in many Denver and spoke with minority busi- from New Jersey, and the things that of these programs. I know one of the ness leaders and owners of the business he has pointed out here are important things on the agenda we will be focus- community in inner-city Denver. to all of us. ing on, Mr. PAPPAS mentioned the The concern of the folks that we met I guess as our time is winding down, Committee on Ways and Means. We are with is very different than what you I want to pick up on one note that was going to be focusing on how to restruc- might expect in a setting of that na- made earlier, and that is that one of ture possibly the Internal Revenue ture. I did not hear requests for any the things that we have to, I think, in- Service. kind of handout of any kind, any kind sist upon in Washington, is account- of preference program, anything along ability. Everybody talks about trying to sim- those lines that has come in Washing- As we move forward now, having bal- plify the Tax Code. We need to con- ton and in many places and seems to be anced this budget, the gentleman tinue to have those discussions, beyond what you would expect. It was just the talked about the fact that we have got just having Presidential candidates opposite, asking for fewer government the blueprint there, but we have to be come forward and say this is what we regulations, asking for the home office conscientious and see that it is en- ought to do. I think this is a dialog we deduction, asking for 100 percent de- forced. have to get the American people on ductibility of health benefits for health One of the other things that I think board with us, whether they favor just care expenses for small employers, to we need to take very seriously is the the Tax Code that we have and sim- get them to the same level where large so-called Results Act which has been plifying that, or whether they favor a employers are. passed by the Congress. It goes into ef- flat income tax or a national consump- These are the key elements, remov- fect this year. For the people in this tion tax, a sales tax or the like. ing the barriers of a large, oppressive country, we spend $1.6 trillion taxpayer But our efforts to restructure the Federal bureaucracy from the natural dollars on the Federal Government, IRS, whether it is the highway bill, the entrepreneurial instincts that occur to and the estimates are that as much as infrastructure, investing in roads and all Americans in all settings. It was $350 billion is lost through fraud, waste bridges that are so needed across the just remarkable, because it is the same and abuse, some $23 billion in the Medi- country, or as another freshman Mem- message I hear in the rural parts of my care program alone, which represents ber, we are talking about education. district. Going to inner-city Denver, I 14 percent of their total budget allo- This is the time everybody is heading heard the same message. cated dollars. back to school or colleges and univer- This particular tax cut package that So one of the things we do have to, I sities. The fact is we have to get more the Republicans crafted and con- think, as we go through the process money than is presently appropriated structed right here and passed and that continue to try to root out, and that is back into the classrooms, so teachers we fought so hard for is really being all the spending in government that is are not having to dig in their own embraced throughout the country. It is over and above what is necessary to get pockets and purchase school supplies so exciting. And Mr. PAPPAS is exactly the job done. to educate the kids that are entrusted right, this is just the first step. It is a The people in this country expect to them. good start. But we are not finished, we Washington to be accountable. They There are so many things we have are going to go back and get more and deserve to have Washington be ac- yet to do. But I think in our quest for continue to fight to shrink the size of countable. I think that that, too, is an progress, we have to continue to stay the government in Washington and ex- important part. Think about the tax on the path. I think we are committed pand the authority of real people, real, cut that we could do. $350 billion in to doing that, certainly as this fresh- free people throughout America. waste, fraud and abuse. Figure out man class is on this side and many on Mr. PAPPAS. If the gentleman would what that would translate to the aver- the other side, of trying to work with yield, one thing that I remind people is age person in this country in terms of politics of cooperation, rather than that again this is a first step. This plan lower taxes, or investments in other politics of confrontation. H6772 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 3, 1997 GENERAL LEAVE trator in that college. This is the kind Ultimately, in addition to her profes- Ms. NORTON. Mr. Speaker, I ask of transformation aspect of her life sional stature, Betty was to become a unanimous consent that all Members that, in many ways, is shades of Mal- human rights advocate of very special may have 5 legislative days within colm. stature. which to revise and extend their re- b 2015 I want to say something further marks on my special order in recogni- about her husband, the man who trans- Betty met Malcolm in New York, formed himself from a petty criminal tion of the life of Betty Shabazz to be having come there to study nursing. given today. to a major league thug to a black Mus- She described the courtship as an old- lim and finally to an orthodox Sunni The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there fashioned courtship. I wish we had objection to the request of the gentle- Muslim who embraced universal broth- more of those today. Malcolm loved erhood, because I think we ought to be woman from the District of Columbia? children, and he particularly loved his There was no objection. clear who Malcolm became. There is children. I must say that during their lack of clarity on that in this country, f what turned out to be a short mar- because only then can we understand riage, Betty was pregnant most of the RECOGNIZING THE LIFE OF BETTY Betty Shabazz. time. SHABAZZ But before I go on, I see that I have Malcolm was assassinated on Feb- been joined by my good colleague, the The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under ruary 21st, 1965, with four of those six gentleman from Georgia [Mr. JOHN the Speaker’s announced policy of Jan- girls by her side. She threw herself LEWIS]. It is very fitting that JOHN uary 7, 1997, the gentlewoman from the onto the children when she heard the should come forward first, for he and I District of Columbia (Ms. NORTON) is bullets, and then she ran to Malcolm, worked together in the very same civil recognized for 60 minutes as the des- by which time he was already dead. rights movement for which the civil ignee of the minority leader. How do you go forward after some- rights martyrs became so well-known Ms. NORTON. Mr. Speaker, I come thing like that? Unlike the two other and admired in this country, Malcolm forward this evening to lead a special civil rights widows, with whom she be- X, Martin Luther King, and Medgar order in recognition of the life of Betty came friends, Betty was left without Evers. Shabazz. any protection. Myrlie Evers, the ex- I am pleased to yield to the gen- Betty Saunders was the adopted and traordinary wife of Medgar Evers, who tleman from Georgia [Mr. JOHN LEWIS]. only daughter of loving parents, who has since become chair of the board of Mr. LEWIS of Georgia. Mr. Speaker, grew up in Detroit, MI. She died on the NAACP, was left with the protec- I want to thank my good friend and my June 24, 3 weeks after being burned tion of our largest and oldest and best- colleague, the gentlewoman from the over 80 percent of her body. Her grand- known civil rights organization, the District of Columbia [Ms. NORTON], for son, Malcolm, has been convicted of NAACP. Coretta Scott King, when Dr. calling this special order tonight. I the arson and has since been judged to Martin Luther King was assassinated, know some time ago the gentlewoman have been mentally disturbed. was left with the protection of the from the District of Columbia had I come forward this evening to speak Southern Christian Leadership Con- planned to hold a special order, but be- of a woman who in a very real sense ference, and, as it turned out, of much cause of the schedule of the House, we was two women. Betty Shabazz was her of the Nation, for whom King was rec- are doing it tonight. own woman, and inescapably and ognized as a very special martyr and a So Mr. Speaker, I join my colleague memorably, Betty Shabazz was the very great man. But as for Betty, it in paying tribute to a noble spirit, Dr. widow of a great man, Malcolm X. The was members of the Nation of Islam Betty Shabazz. I felt a profound sense two identities are inevitably related. who were ultimately convicted of the of loss when I learned of her death. Each side, gracious and strong, fed the assassination of her husband. She was Betty Shabazz stood tall as a wife, a other side of this remarkable woman. left with no organizational protection. mother, and a friend. I want to begin by saying some words What did she do? She did what such As a matter of fact, I knew Malcolm about Betty, and later on I want to say women often do, only she did it in her and got to know her husband fairly some words about Malcolm X, because way. She raised these girls, got more well. I first met him on the night of many have no clear vision of who Mal- education, and went on and got a ca- August 27th, 1963, 34 years ago, here in colm became, and in honoring Betty, reer. The country and the world did not the city of Washington on the eve of we inevitably honor this man who hear much of Betty Shabazz during the march on Washington. The last transformed himself. this period. I cannot imagine who could time I saw her husband alive was in I knew Betty well. On one level she have heard much of Betty Shabazz, Nairobi, Kenya, in October 1964, at the was simply a friend, one of the girls. doing what she was doing during this New Stanley Hotel. On the level where she is remembered period. She lived a very private life. Malcolm and Betty together rep- best, she of course was the widow of She was particularly keen to protect resented something deep and good Malcolm X. But at the level that I find these children, and, of course, she had about the very best of America. Betty most remarkable, Betty Shabazz was to live and move forward. Shabazz stood tall as a wife, as a moth- all Betty, not Malcolm, because Betty, I had a forum at the Black Caucus er. She stood tall as a woman of cour- like Malcolm, redefined herself from Weekend last year where I invited age, pride, and with a great sense of the wife of a great man who was trag- Betty Shabazz, my old friend, to be one dignity. ically assassinated, to herself, a self- of the speakers, because it spoke to is- As I said before, at the age of 28, made woman. sues about which she had been identi- Betty Shabazz suddenly lost her hus- There is, of course, Betty the mother. fied. And this very gracious and re- band, Malcolm, to an assassin’s bullet. There is a kind of primacy that was at- markable woman was anything but With few resources, she began to raise tached to being Betty the mother. self-assured about coming to this her six daughters. With determination When you raise six girls, when your forum and speaking at this forum with she pursued and achieved a doctorate husband is struck down and assas- women whom she regarded as more degree in education. With a deep sense sinated before your very eyes, when practiced at such pursuits. of compassion and an abiding faith, you and four children are in the ball- I remember that Betty said when she Betty Shabazz continued Malcolm’s room where that act occurs, you are in- finally got herself so that she could see work. escapably, first and foremost, a moth- the movie Malcolm X that the young On February 21, 1965, I say to the gen- er. When you are pregnant with twins actress who portrayed her was far more tlewoman from the District of Colum- who are then later born, there is a very self-assured than Betty felt she was bia Ms. ELEANOR HOLMES NORTON, my special primacy to being a mother. during this period. There was a kind of friend and colleague of long standing, I Yes, she went on to get her doctorate inner assurance and inner conviction, remember very well, we were driving and to become an associate professor at an inner self-esteem that came out dur- back from Macon, GA in south Georgia Medgar Evers College in Brooklyn, NY, ing the forum, and that was part of the on the way to the city of Atlanta, and and ultimately to become an adminis- very essence of Betty Shabazz. then on our way to Selma, when we September 3, 1997 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6773 heard on the radio that Malcolm had mination. Betty Shabazz has left us. I By example, Dr. Shabazz rejected bit- been assassinated by an assassin’s bul- would like to think that she is now in terness as she embraced the principles let. a better place, and at long last she has of ethnic unity, universal peace, and As the gentlewoman stated so well, been reunited with her beloved Mal- nonviolence. She touched thousands of Betty was pregnant with twins as she colm. Tonight our hearts and our sym- lives through her work as an educator witnessed the murder of her husband. pathies go out to her family and her and administrator. She was a quiet but Just a week earlier the family home friends. We will all miss her, but the effective healer of the breach between had been firebombed, and as the wife of great example of her life leaves us perceived conflict in ideologies. That is a controversial public figure, worry sweetly blessed with a profound sense why it is so important that the gentle- and concern for the well-being of her of hope. woman from the District of Columbia family had become part of Betty’s life. So tonight I say to you, Betty, thank [Ms. NORTON], our sister, called us here So on this day, we are here to honor you. Despite great challenges, defeats, tonight, so that America will never for- the life of a remarkable woman, an ex- and difficulties, you, Dr. Betty get Dr. Shabazz. traordinary person. Ghandi, the great Shabazz, walked through life with soul It was not her way to challenge oth- teacher of the philosophy and the dis- force. You had the ability, you had the er’s memory of her husband. She chose cipline of nonviolence, once said that capacity, to produce great results. You instead to live the beliefs she and her there was a soul force in the universe will be missed. As a Nation and as a husband shared. Although tragedy which, if permitted, would flow people, we will not forget your gifts to haunted their family, Dr. Shabazz re- through us and produce miraculous re- all of us and to all humankind. mained strong in her convictions. Her sults. Again, I want to thank my friend and life was a living testament to her In the life of Betty Shabazz we can my colleague, the gentlewoman from strong belief in self and family values. find that soul force, a power to trans- the District of Columbia [Ms. NORTON] We talk about family values; Dr. form tragedies into great victory. By for bringing us together tonight to par- Betty Shabazz lived them. Goes by an her quiet and courageous example, ticipate in this special order. old dictum which I love to follow: I Betty Shabazz fought tragedy with b 2030 would rather see a sermon than to hear love and compassion. She did not be- Ms. NORTON. Mr. Speaker, I thank one any day. She did not preach family come bitter or hostile after the murder the gentleman from Georgia [Mr. values; she lived them. of her husband. Instead, Betty picked LEWIS] for his eloquent words concern- She believed in education as the herself up and raised six lovely daugh- ing Betty Shabazz. linchpin of self-determination. Her ters. As their mother, she got involved I see that I have been joined by other early training as a nurse com- in their lives. She passed on to them Members, and I am pleased to recognize plemented her care and her spirit as a the great legacy of their father. at this time the gentlewoman from care-giver. Her passion for learning in- Betty not only had the ability but Florida [Mrs. MEEK], who will now spired her as she achieved academic ex- also the capacity to grow and to learn. speak to us, and I am pleased to receive cellence. She earned a bachelor’s de- Perhaps that is why she became an ed- her words at this time. gree in public health. Her master’s ucator. That is why she had the capac- Mrs. MEEK of Florida. Mr. Speaker, I course work was in early childhood ity and the ability to reach out to oth- want to thank the gentlewoman from education. ers. She had the ability and the capac- the District of Columbia [Ms. NORTON], In 1975, Dr. Shabazz received a doc- ity to inspire. That is why I think we my sister and my esteemed colleague, torate in education, and after that she are here today. In her professional life for giving us the opportunity tonight joined the faculty of Medgar Evers Col- as an administrator of Medgar Evers to speak about a great woman, and to lege where she served until her death. College in New York City, Betty help America understand the place Betty Shabazz passes on her love of Shabazz encouraged young people to that this great woman will have in the learning to her six daughters. They are study and to strive for their very best. history of this country. also women of achievement in their I would say to the gentlewoman from Dr. Betty Shabazz, Mr. Speaker, was own right. She believed in family, she the District of Columbia [Ms. NORTON], a woman of honor, a woman of integ- loved her daughters, and she lived life. Betty Shabazz touched so many with rity, and a woman who will set an ex- Indeed, her love for life and children her strength and kindness. I know on ample for all of America’s children. fused at the moment of this tragic epi- so many occasions she made me laugh. On February 21, 1965, Dr. Shabazz and sode. Being with Betty was always joyful, her four young daughters witnessed the We cannot pay homage to Dr. sharing funny stories or something we brutal assassination of her husband Shabazz without mentioning the trou- saw in the audience, or something we and their father, Malcolm X. This vio- bled life of her grandson, for even as read about or something we saw during lent, terrifying incident thrust her into she lay dying, her love and care the Congressional Caucus weekend. I the national spotlight. We all remem- reached out to him. I would say to the will never, ever forget her sweet and ber Brother Malcolm. We all remember gentlewoman from the District of Co- wonderful smile; just being in her com- his wife, Betty Shabazz. And that is lumbia, and my colleagues, that I am pany, being in her presence. why we are here tonight, to pay special certain that Dr. Shabazz would want us I have a photograph of Betty with honor to Mrs. Shabazz. to remember her life by remembering Mrs. King and Dr. King’s sister, Chris- She spent the next 32 years of her life the life and needs of her grandson. tine King Farris, and they are all smil- preserving the legacy of Malcolm X. Ms. NORTON. Mr. Speaker, I thank ing, sharing some story. Sometimes we Through these efforts we came to know the gentlewoman from Florida for her never know how powerful, how influen- and admire Dr. Betty Shabazz, for in memorable words. I want to say how tial a person is until we miss them or the process she established her own pleased I am to be joined at this time do not see them. Maybe we will never legacy. While we mourn the passing of by the gentlewoman from North Caro- know. our beloved friend and sister, we also lina [Mrs. CLAYTON]. Betty, through her courage, was able celebrate her life and reunion with her Mrs. CLAYTON. Mr. Speaker, I, too, to supply all of us with faith and hope. husband in a strange twist of fate. want to commend my colleague, the She had the ability to be able to see Malcolm X unknowingly prepared Dr. gentlewoman from the District of Co- good or goodness in all humankind. Shabazz for her life’s work. Through- lumbia [Ms. NORTON], for holding this With one more river to cross, I wanted out their short but wonderful mar- Special Order and providing us an op- Betty to survive, to beat the odds. riage, Malcolm urged her not to hold portunity to enter brief remarks about Even as she struggled to overcome and grudges. Brother Malcolm’s advice Mrs. this distinguished woman who is a to recover from the extensive burns on Shabazz took to heart. At the same woman of our history. her body, she held onto life longer than time Dr. Shabazz found the strength Mr. Speaker, I am saddened but in- many had expected. she needed to help her children through spired tonight. I am saddened because I Yes, this is the life of a remarkable the crisis of the loss of their father and stand here to say farewell to a sister American woman, of a beautiful to nurture and fortify them for life’s friend who lived a life worth emulat- woman with iron will and strong deter- uncertainties. ing. The late Betty Shabazz was a H6774 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 3, 1997 woman of character, a woman of and numerous painful skin grafts, she The legacy of Dr. Betty Shabazz will strength and presence. She rose above endured. Dr. Shabazz held on with live on in all of our lives. tragedy when her husband was mur- strength and determination, those Ms. NORTON. Mr. Speaker, I thank dered. She stood up to challenges, rose qualities that have continued to sus- the gentlewoman from California for to the occasion after the death of her tain us during these difficult days those very warm and wonderful words husband, and raised her children with ahead. of tribute to Betty Shabazz. dignity and pride. So I am so proud tonight to be able There may, indeed, be other Members Those words have been often stated to participate in this evening’s func- coming to the floor, and while I await tonight and will be said again. I am tion to offer the rightful homage to one them, I think I would like to deepen saddened at the loss of this special of our greatest political and social ac- my own remarks, because we speak of woman, this special woman of history. tivists to have graced this earth. Betty Shabazz, a woman who carved I am happy, however, to have known of I rise tonight not to focus, though, on out her own identity in a most memo- this woman and to be alive to have this the tragic loss of Dr. Shabazz, but rath- rable way. And yet we also say and re- woman demonstrate what strength and er on the tremendous gains that we as member that this was the widow of character really is. a society have made due to the Malcolm X. Because of confusion con- Not better words can be said than unyielding dedication and determined cerning who Malcolm X was and, there- those spoken by the gentlewoman from leadership of Dr. Betty Shabazz. fore, in a great and important sense Florida [Mrs. MEEKS]. It is certainly Throughout her 61 years of life, Dr. who Betty Shabazz was, I feel an obli- better to see the sermon than to hear Shabazz embodied an extraordinary gation to say a word about the legacy ideology spoken. balance of intellect and compassion, of Malcolm X that Betty Shabazz car- Dr. Shabazz died this summer the coupled with grace and composure. Dr. ried with such grace. victim of an unfortunate circumstance, Shabazz grew up in Detroit and studied It is according to what generation we but until the end she showed courage, at Tuskegee Institute, New York’s live in and what we saw as to who we grace, and class to the victim and her Brooklyn State Hospital School of may understand Malcolm X to have family. She was an extraordinary Nursing and the Jersey City State Col- been. It was his very capacity to trans- lege in New Jersey, while helping her woman. After her husband’s death, she form himself that leaves me wondering children to accept the absence of their lived quietly, raising her six daughters, when I hear people say Malcolm X, giving them the value of family and father. In 1975, she received a doctorate in which Malcolm are they talking about? the emphasis of education by showing education from the University of Mas- b 2045 that she, too, would go on to school sachusetts, and later became the Direc- earning a doctor’s degree. She served Are they talking about the Malcolm tor of Institutional Advancement and as a college administrator, and as her who transformed his life and who in so Public Relations at Medgar Evers Col- children grew up, became more active doing should be an inspiration to us all lege in Brooklyn, NY. Throughout her in the community and the world as a that we can all become something else, academic career, and long afterwards, participator in democracy. something better, something different? Dr. Shabazz served as a spokesperson We have lost a great human being, a It takes enormous will to be able to and tireless advocate for the homeless, mentor, a mother, a grandmother, and say at the end of 5 years, I am some- the poor, and for civil rights. a friend. But we also have missed her thing different from who I was 5 years She educated children and adults on ago, because I have made myself some- spirit, a spirit of self-confidence and dealing with racism and civil rights, thing different. worth and value. We will always re- and built very strong relationships If we think about the extraordinary member her strength, but we also will with the Hasidic rabbis and other Jew- transformation of Malcolm X, then I remember her courage and her love for ish leaders to address the violence and think there will be a greater capacity her children, yes, and her grandson. tensions dividing communities for us to imagine the transformation of Commitment to love all who had been throughout this country. given to her caring, nurturing arms to On top of all of her work to advance our country and the transformation of raise and to be a mother and a grand- social justice, Dr. Shabazz raised those many in our country who seem stuck mother, and a committed sister friend. six daughters of hers all on her own where they are. We say fare you well. and she never asked for pity, she just Let me say to you that Betty trans- Ms. NORTON. Mr. Speaker, those exemplified her pride. formed herself, and in a real sense, were very special words, and I thank She was a leader with a powerful and when you see a great man like Mal- the gentlewoman from North Carolina contagious compassion for making a colm, you ought to understand that a [Mrs. CLAYTON], my wonderful col- difference. She was also a team player great man does not choose a little league, for coming forward to make and knew how vitally important it is woman. He chose a woman who also them here this evening. that we all work together to resolve ra- was capable of transforming herself. Mr. Speaker, I am very pleased at cial tension and inequality in this Na- I have to say, if I was left in this this time to be joined by another won- tion. world with four babies and two more I derful friend and colleague, the gentle- The pain and sorrow that fills all of was about to bear, I am not sure I woman from California, [Ms. our hearts when we think of the tragic could have transformed myself. It MILLENDER-MCDONALD]. death of Dr. Betty Shabazz is over- would have been doing good just to Ms. MILLENDER-McDONALD. Mr. whelming, but I ask my colleagues, and hold on. Speaker, I would like to congratulate all within the sound of my voice, to This is a woman who said, hey, I, too, the gentlewoman from the District of join me in recognizing and honoring can make myself what I need to be. Columbia [Ms. NORTON] for bringing the wonderful ways in which Dr. And what a model she had for self- this Special Order tonight so that we Shabazz has enriched all of our lives as transformation. would have an opportunity to really an inspiring role model and as a friend. Make no mistake about who Malcolm speak about a dear friend, an outstand- Let us continue to impart her fine X was before we met him, Malcolm Lit- ing woman, a woman of character, a work to generations and for the gen- tle, the petty criminal who became the woman of dignity. erations yet to be born. serious felon and who, while in prison, Yes, on June 23d, we lost one of the Yes, Dr. Betty Shabazz dedicated her became converted by the Black Mus- greatest leaders in the fight for social life to social justice and had a tremen- lims and finally left them. Each and justice, Dr. Betty Shabazz, and I join dous impact on the young since the every time Malcolm X had to say to tonight with my colleagues in sending death of her husband, Malcolm X, some himself something that is very hard to my deepest sympathies, as I did during 30 years ago. While we mourn her pass- say, who am I? Is this who I want to those dark days and dark moments ing, let us not forget, more impor- be? Can I be something else? after her demise, to the entire Shabazz tantly, how blessed we were to have I ask you to consider, how many peo- family. had someone of this esteemed caliber ple do you know who have become Despite the third-degree burns which touch all of our lives in such an unfor- something truly different from who covered over 80 percent of her body, gettable way. they once were? How many people do September 3, 1997 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6775 you know who have improved them- Shabazz, I found that legacy living and because as I have listened to your pas- selves? How many people do you know I found that legacy of principle living sion and compassion and those of my who live by principle so that they are in Attalah, the eldest daughter, the el- other sisters, as I hope the Speaker willing to risk their very lives for prin- oquent Attalah. This girl has Malcolm will tolerate briefly and indulge us just ciple? When Malcolm X converted, he in her. And let me indicate how and for a moment, because this is such a became an orthodox Sunni Muslim and why. There came a point in the service, special occasion. As the moments tick so did Betty Shabazz. He broke with to show you how universal a figure by, I hope he will allow those who have the Nation on matters of principle at Malcolm has become, Governor Pataki come to the floor to complete this trib- the risk of his life. He came to accept was there, Mayor Giuliani was there, ute. universal principles of human rights, all of the prominent politicians of New But in listening to you, sometimes it brotherhood and sisterhood. York were there. Mayor Koch was is appropriate to offer the benediction I do not always know who we are re- there. He talked about a street, a grand but for the fact that others continue to membering when we remember Mal- avenue named for Malcolm. come to pay tribute. I will simply say colm X. The Malcolm X on the T-shirt, There came a point in the service a few points because I knew the honor- which Malcolm X is that brother? Yes, when they recognized the politicians in able and cherished Dr. Betty Shabazz it will be the Malcolm X of black na- the audience and they would stand up as an admiring watcher, if you will, of tionalism. I think he would have con- and say something or at least be recog- her eloquence and love of life. tinued to stand for that, but that sense nized. When they recognized Mayor of nationalism would have been for him Interestingly enough, from a dis- Giuliani, there was some boos in the tance, unlike the knowledge and per- the motivating force to continue to church. At that point, others in the bring justice to his people, for he had sonal friendship that you possessed, I church began to clap so as to drown out watched her stateliness, her regalness, also embraced orthodox Sunni Muslim the boos, and it was all over. religion and spoke openly and often of and her capturing the audience wher- When it came time for the daughters ever she went in her most humble and universal principles of brotherhood. to come forward, all six of them, it was This is a man who learned, was willing honest way. only one who spoke for them, the eld- She taught at a college in New York. to say when he thought he had been est. I know about that obligation; I am wrong, and to move on. A good friend of mine had the pleasure the eldest of three daughters. Attalah of being on campus as a faculty mem- I have to tell you, I ask you, even stepped forward, extemporaneously to among great men or women to find me ber with her, Sheryl Williams, I called speak for the remaining family. And her Shey Williams. And on the occa- examples like that. Here is a great she obviously had thought about what man, Martin Luther King. But he was sions that we had to speak together, she was going to say. And the question born into the tradition that he came to there was always an endearing com- of the boos, I can tell you, had been represent and he represented the best ment made about Dr. Betty Shabazz. dealt with. But this girl had Malcolm’s of that tradition. He was born into a My fellow sisters are right that Dr. principle in her. She felt the necessity family of Baptist ministers which led Betty Shabazz was part of a family, to say that that had been wrong. I was him to get a wonderful education Malcolm, the children, the sisters, the never so impressed in my life. which led him to study philosophy. All She did not have to get in that. She daughters, so Dr. Betty Shabazz was a of this was growing into something. did not have to take the chance that wife, a mother, noble, queenly, an edu- That is very different from becoming there were some in the audience who cator, a nurturer. She certainly was a somebody different, from leaving be- thought maybe you should boo Giuliani grandmother, proudly so, something hind somebody who you were, recogniz- and so you might turn them off. She she did not rebuke; and I believe that it ing and taking responsibility to say did not have to get in it. She got in it. is true in life and, yes, in death. that was the wrong person, that is not As an aside, she said, and by the way, She showed up places and she was a who I want to be, and becoming some- it is wrong in this service to boo the bright star and clearly she provided a body else. light for us. I hope that as she now Very few of us can become somebody mayor or anyone else. She had to say it. It was a matter of principle for her. watches us, and as Dr. Betty Shabazz else while growing, as a matter of prin- sleeps on peacefully, that we will take ciple. That is what Malcolm El-Hajj Teach girl, I thought. That is what Malcolm would have done. Malcolm to heart the partnership that she had Malik El-Shabazz did, and when you with Malcolm X, one who did believe in wear those T-shirts, do understand that would have said, hey, silence is not a moral act. The moral act is to say, humankind; and that those who wish to you are not wearing T-shirts of the emulate and imitate this dynamic of- man who spoke of white devils because that was wrong and I am going to take the consequences. I am going to stand fering to this Nation and this world, Malcolm, who became a Sunni Muslim, Dr. Shabazz and Malcolm X, that they said that is not who I am anymore. I up and say it. That is Malcolm. That was Attalah. will imitate the realness of who they am Malcolm El-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz are, people who reached out in obsta- who embraces the notion that we must That legacy is in her. It was in her with great eloquence. This is family I cles and adversity and fought against become one people. the tide. That is who he was, and I have had revere for the way in which their val- many a conversation with Betty ues have been spread across their fam- And so my tribute tonight is to rec- Shabazz about that Malcolm. This was ily. These values feed on one another. I ognize that I have many miles to travel the last and the final Malcolm, and don’t know where they come from. I to be able to capture the bright and that is the Malcolm who deserves our cannot say Attalah got this from Mal- shining star still remaining here given greatest respect. That is the Malcolm colm. She was such a little girl. I do to us by Dr. Betty Shabazz, and like- whom history will remember now, not not know that Betty got her sense of wise I have many miles to travel in only as a revered leader of my own universal brotherhood from the final order to capture the spirit and the dy- black community but as a far more Malcolm. I do not know that. All I namic strength of Malcolm X. But my universal figure, standing for universal know is that in families those things commitment to you, to the gentle- principles and standing for the just come together and that is what woman from the District of Columbia strength of character to change who he being a family is all about. I hope we who has expressed such deep and abid- was. all regard ourselves as part of that ing friendship; as I see the chairwoman Oh, do I wish I could put aside some family as well. of the Black Caucus, who likewise of my habits and tomorrow wake up Mr. Speaker, I yield now to the gen- shares that relationship, that we will and say, Eleanor, that part of Eleanor tlewoman from Texas [Ms. JACKSON- not stand and allow the clock to be is not anymore, I can say with assur- LEE], another very good Member of turned back, the light to be darkened, ance that there is a new Eleanor here. this body. the daughters of Malcolm and Dr. That kind of strength of character I Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas. Mr. Betty Shabazz to be forgotten or ig- find simply awesome. Speaker, I thank the gentlewoman nored, the grandchildren that represent I have to tell you that at the memo- from the District of Columbia. The so many who may have lost their way rial service that I attended for Betty words will be few but heartfelt, only to be abandoned by us. H6776 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 3, 1997 b 2100 and this kind of presence that many of and she went on to do and be what Mal- As we continue our service in the us have never witnessed before. colm would want her to do. Not only U.S. Congress, our commitment will be And so I met Malcolm X and I can re- did she find a way to raise the children, to lift up the bloodstained banner, but call being in Los Angeles, going to she went back to school. This is a lift it up with the understanding that wherever I would hear he was going to woman who got a Ph.D. This is a Dr. Betty Shabazz lived, Malcolm be, to listen one more time. I was find- woman who not only became the pro- lived, the family lived, and they will ing my own self in those years, coming fessor, the teacher, the leader; she live on through us. I thank the gentle- to grips with not only my philosophy spread out in the overall community, woman from the District of Columbia about life but about what I really felt in this country, and went on to become for her leadership on this special order. about what I had learned, my experi- a speaker, a leader, someone who Ms. NORTON. I want to thank the ence growing up in St. Louis. And so I joined with her sisters to try and make gentlewoman from Texas for those re- met Malcolm X, I listened to him. I life better for others. This was a markable words about Betty Shabazz. was profoundly influenced by him, car- woman who said to me once, ‘‘Maxine, If I had to bet money, I would have ried away with his brilliance, with his I came out to Los Angeles, and I had an been willing to do so that the next ability to articulate what I was feeling opportunity to speak with these young speaker would have to come to the so often. But I never asked, and what men, some of whom were in gangs, floor this evening. It is my very special about his family? What about his chil- some of whom had left the gangs, but pleasure to recognize at this time the dren? What about his wife? It was only they sat with me, and I had an oppor- gentlewoman from California [Ms. WA- after Malcolm’s death did I meet and tunity to talk with them and tell them TERS], who is at the same time the get to know Betty Shabazz. about Malcolm, and what Malcolm chairwoman of the Congressional Black Too often we see leaders, we see peo- would have them do.’’ And she said, Caucus. ple in high visibility roles, and some- ‘‘I’m coming back again. I’m going to Ms. WATERS. Mr. Speaker, I thank how we think about them without come back to talk with them. Because very much the gentlewoman from the thinking about them in relationship to I think it is important for me to share District of Columbia [Ms. NORTON]. I their families, their children, their what I know.’’ So this woman, raising thank her for taking the time to orga- home environment. After I met Betty children, teaching, being available to nize this tribute to Betty Shabazz. She Shabazz, I understood why Malcolm the many groups and organizations is one of the busiest persons in this could comfortably do what he did. In who demanded of her time, not only did House. Not only does she have the reg- order to be the leader that Malcolm X I see her all over this country at the ular legislative duties, but given all was, he had to have tremendous sup- many Malcolm X celebrations that go that is going on in the District, I know port and understanding. This was a on, we sat and talked about these cele- the hours that she is spending working woman who was with one of the most brations and her role and her respon- with the very serious problems that are controversial leaders of our time. This sibility. She never tired of responding confronting this District and this Na- was a woman who knew that her life to the request. tion. I want to tell her, for her to have and the life of her children were in dan- I would often see her at the Congres- time to get us to stop and focus and do ger. Their house was set afire. This was sional Black Caucus dinners. We hold this tribute is more than admirable. I a woman who knew that even though these Congressional Black Caucus admire her stamina, and her courage, her husband had evolved to a point weekends, and she would always come, but I also deeply respect the fact that where as some describe him as more and we would joke, ‘‘Well, she won’t be she decided no matter how busy she is, international, more wanting to bring with us at this Congressional Black that our dear friend and sister Betty people together, there were people who Caucus weekend.’’ But she will cer- Shabazz deserves the attention of this did not feel the same way as I felt and tainly be remembered. House, of this body. I thank very much many, many others felt about Malcolm Mr. Speaker, I would like to thank the gentlewoman from the District of X. But this was a woman who loved her the gentlewoman from the District of Columbia. husband. This was a woman who raised Columbia and the other members of the Mr. Speaker, let me just say that she the babies. This was a woman who Congressional Black Caucus for helping and I both attended the memorial serv- knew that at any point in time, her me to select Betty Shabazz as one of ices for Dr. Betty Shabazz in New husband could be killed, her house the awardees. I as the chairwoman of York. We were there and we watched as could be burned, she could be killed, the Congressional Black Caucus will be people came from all over this Nation but she believed in Malcolm X and they presenting awards to Betty Shabazz, to pay tribute to Betty Shabazz. We believed in each other. He loved Betty posthumously, and to Coretta Scott watched our friends mount the podium Shabazz and Betty Shabazz loved Mal- King and to Myrlie Evers, 3 women who there and talk about their relationship colm X. have lost their husbands, 3 women with her. We watched people she has And so, even though I had not met whose husbands were the civil rights worked with both in the political her, I did not know her, it became very, leaders recorded in history never to be arena, in academia, step forward to tell very clear to me after meeting her why forgotten, 3 women who stood by their us about their very special relationship Malcolm X was able to do and be in the husbands, who raised the children with this remarkable woman. When I manner that he was. And so this Betty while their husbands were shot down in was there, I talked a little bit about Shabazz that I met was not a woman America, but who did not go away, who Betty Shabazz, my friend that I have with her head hanging down, it was not did not vanish, who did not become so worked with, that I have known, that I a woman who had been scarred by the devastated that they did not continue have spent time with, that I have ex- assassination of her husband, it was to play a role in American life. They changed all kinds of information with, not a woman whose very life, existence are all speakers, they are all heads of about our families, et cetera. But I and ability to thrive, this was a organizations, they are all teachers, could not help but think about how woman, a very wise woman, who, of they are all keepers of the flame of the long it took me to meet Betty Shabazz, course, felt the deep pain of having lost faith. And so we are going to award even though I had met Malcolm many this brilliant man that she loved, but them the chairwoman’s award at the years ago. this was a woman who had counseled Congressional Black Caucus weekend. Of course, I and the Nation met Mal- with her husband, had talked through We are going to say to them, thank colm X as he came forth with his bril- the possibility of his death. This was a you for being who you are. We are liant oratory and presence to help woman who witnessed her husband’s going to say thank you for persisting make this Nation think about who we assassination with her babies but was in the quest for freedom, justice and are and what we are doing, to help not destroyed by it. This was a woman equality despite what was done to your draw attention to the injustices of our whose wisdom goes far beyond that husbands. We are going to say to own society, to help us to articulate which most of us hope to be able to Coretta Scott King and to Myrlie our pain, to force legislative bodies to achieve. Evers, we love you, we love you and we pay attention. He did all of that, this She suffered the pain of the loss of want you to know that. We want to use magnificent man with this brilliance her husband, she mourned his death, the most important platform that we September 3, 1997 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6777 have in the Congressional Black Cau- portant Special Order. It has been al- I once again would like to simply cus, and to Betty, who we will not be ready said about the outstanding work thank the gentlewoman from the Dis- able to say it to because she is gone that she does here in the District fight- trict here, and I appreciate having the now, to her children who will be there ing for the people of the District, as opportunity to address the House. and Attalah, her daughter, who will ac- she fought for people here in the entire f cept the award, we want them to know United States of America when she had GOOD NEWS FOR AMERICA that we loved their mother, and that a tremendous, important administra- we hold her in the highest of esteem, tive position years ago, and she contin- The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under and we hope that this small token that ues to do that work. the Speaker’s announced policy of Jan- we are able to present that evening And to the chairperson of the Con- uary 7, 1997, the gentleman from Wis- from all of us will speak to our love for gressional Black Caucus, Ms. WATERS consin [Mr. NEUMANN] is recognized for them. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentle- from California, she continues to lead 60 minutes. woman for allowing us the opportunity the caucus in unprecedented times. We Mr. NEUMANN. Mr. Speaker, I rise to focus some attention from this are so proud of the outstanding work tonight to talk about good news for House on Betty Shabazz. that the caucus has done, and I would America. Ms. NORTON. I thank the gentle- just like to, as I was in my office work- I just had a wonderful opportunity woman for those remarkable remarks. ing, and I turned to this channel and during the past month to see lots of This special order would not have been saw that this Special Order was being folks all across Wisconsin, and it was the same without her. done, I was unaware of it but felt it was very educational for me and, I hope, for Mr. Speaker, in closing, I simply extremely important to me to come some of the folks we saw that they want to thank not only the chair- over and to say a few words. picked up on some of the good things woman of the Congressional Black Cau- I knew Betty Shabazz very well, be- that have happened here in the last cus but the other Members and friends cause living in Newark, NJ, she was month or thereabouts out here in not far away, and about a month before who came forward at a time when Washington. the tragedy I had the opportunity to be many of us are thinking through ways The one thing that struck me, in her company three or four times. to transform ourselves into better peo- though, as I talked to more and more First, we had a meeting in Mount Ver- ple, to transform our country into a of our families across Wisconsin and non, the Constituency for Africa. better place, and when I, I must say, our senior citizens across Wisconsin Mayor David Dinkins was there, Con- Mr. Speaker, am trying to think of a and some of our young people, college gressman RANGEL, Mel Foote called in way to transform my own city into a age students across Wisconsin, they did from the Constituency of Africa in Mrs. united city that will regain its own not really realize that the tax cut bill Shabazz’s hometown, and of course the human rights and that will reform its has been signed into law, so I would first person to speak after the invoca- like to begin this evening by pointing own agencies at such a time I find tion was given at the church was Doc- great inspiration in the life and work out that the tax cut bill, along with tor Betty Shabazz, because she not the first balanced budget since 1969 and of Malcolm X and in the life and work only worked for people in this area and of Betty Shabazz. restoring Medicare, has all been signed. in this country, but worldwide, and she It is done. The ink is dry. The Presi- Mr. BISHOP. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to was loved by everyone. pay tribute to a great woman and humani- dent signed it. It has passed the House. I know Dr. Edison Jackson, who was It has passed the Senate. First bal- tarian, Dr. Betty Shabazz. Her family lost a the president of Medgar Evers College, mother, grandmother, or sister but the world anced budget since 1969, taxes coming he was the former president of Essex down for the first time in 16 years, and lost a friend and a symbol of inspiration to all County College in Newark, NJ, where I of us. In her death, Dr. Shabazz leaves a leg- Medicare restored for at least a decade. live, and the wisdom of President Jack- That is what was accomplished before acy of dedication to family, a quality that is son to see the worth of a Betty we left for recess in August. much praised but little practiced. Her impact Shabazz, to have her lead the light for will be felt for a period much longer than we The other thing I learned is that not that great institution named after, as very many people really understood realize right now. has been mentioned, Medgar Evers, an- what was in the tax cut bill, and I Her much recognized qualities of persever- other person who was taken away from would start talking to people and I ance and determination were first publicly rec- us, and his wife Myrlie Evers carried would say, ‘‘Well, the budget is bal- ognized after her husband's death on Feb- the torch, and so it is unique; as a mat- anced, that’s the most important thing ruary 21, 1965. Betty Shabazz, left with no ter of fact, the college that Dr. Edison we could do, and that was our respon- source of income to provide for her four young Jackson at Essex County taught at be- sibility, and that’s done, and at the daughters and the twins she was pregnant fore going to Medgar Evers after leav- same time we’ve reduced your taxes.’’ with, was determined to raise her children and ing California on Martin Luther King And they go, ‘‘yeah, sure, but that af- did so alone. Along with taking care of six chil- Boulevard. Doctor Shabazz, it is alto- fects somebody else.’’ dren, she completed her nursing school edu- gether. And then we would start through it, cation and went on to earn bachelor's, mas- I would just like to say that then she and the first question would be: Do you ter's and doctorate degrees. Dr. Shabazz lived came over to Newark about 2 weeks be- have children? And this is so impor- the dictums of self-reliance, discipline and fore the tragedy and spoke out at com- tant. If you have children age 17 or education as espoused by her husband, Mal- munity meetings. She was always younger for virtually all families out colm X. there, grass-roots people. She would there, 550,000 Wisconsin families alone, Our prayers are with the family in this hour come to the caucus and go to all of the you are eligible to keep $400 more for of grief. I ask my colleagues to join me in re- sessions and rush around because ev- each one of your children in your own membering the many contributions Dr. eryone wanted to see her. home next year instead of sending it to Shabazz has made to our country and to the And so we have lost a tremendous Washington. world. person. It is unfortunate that tragedies We should make this very clear. This f take people. This week we are hearing the tragedy of the great Princess of is not somehow a gift from Washington b 2115 Wales taken away unnecessarily, and to the people. This is money that the people get up in the morning, they go TRIBUTE TO BETTY SHABAZZ once again Dr. Betty Shabazz. So I think that we have to remember to their jobs, they work hard, and they The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a and we have to always be aware of the earn the money, but instead of sending previous order of the House, the gen- fact that we all have to do more in our it to Washington, they keep it in their tleman from New Jersey [Mr. PAYNE] is own way. She was a great person. own homes to spend on their own fami- recognized for 5 minutes. I, too, attended the memorial service lies and the way they see fit. That is Mr. PAYNE. Mr. Speaker, let me also and David Dinkins and Basil Patterson the first part of the tax code. add my accolades to the gentlewoman and Percy Sutton did such outstanding And I am going to put this a little from the District of Columbia, Dele- jobs as they brought this community different so folks have a handle on how gate NORTON, for calling this very im- together. important and significant this is. H6778 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 3, 1997 In January of next year, a family home will no longer owe any Federal the fact that it is now possible to put with a child, with one child, should go taxes. In the vast majority of the $500 per year per child into what is into their place of employment, they cases, very few exceptions, and only on called an education savings account. should talk to the person that handles the very higher-priced homes, will peo- The money then accumulates tax free, the W–4 forms, they should increase ple owe any money in Federal taxes. If and the student can then take it out their exemptions so as to increase their you have lived in your residence, it is when they reach age 18 and are ready take-home pay by $33 per month. It is your personal residence, you have lived to go off to college. $33 per month in increased take-home there for 2 years or more, you will not I talked to a lot of grandparents pay for each one of the children in the owe any Federal taxes when you go to about this account because it seems house. sell your home. This affects a whole that there are a lot of grandparents And my fear is people are not going bunch of people. that are interested in giving their to do this. My fear is what is going to There were a lot of folks out there, grandchildren some sort of a gift, happen is they are just going to go empty nesters, people whose children whether it be a Christmas or their through the year and Washington is are grown and gone who are waiting for birthday or whatever, and it makes an going to see all this extra money com- that one-time exclusion at age 55 to ideal gift from a grandparent to a ing out here that those families should sell their home and downsize. That is grandchild, and I know everybody can- be keeping in their own home, and, of no longer necessary. The age 55 one- not afford it, but there are some grand- course, when Washington sees money, time exclusion is gone. It is no longer parents out there who would like to sometimes they spend it out here, and there. If you lived in your home for 2 give this sort of a gift to their grand- I will admit, as hard as we try to stop years, you sell the home, you make a children, and it is certainly an ideal that and as hard as I personally worked profit, there is no tax on it. way to provide their grandchildren to stop them from spending on new It was interesting. I was in Green with a college education. programs, it would be much, much bet- Bay, WI. I was doing a radio talk show Again, the education savings ac- ter if our families out there did the about the tax cuts, and I had a young count, you can put $500 a year into this right thing. lady call in, and she said, ‘‘Well, I savings account, the money accumu- And, again, let me make this very bought my home for $22,000, and I’m lates tax free, and when the kids take clear. Starting in January of next year, now about to sell it for $60,000.’’ So a it out at age 18 they pay on the lower a family with children should go into period of years have gone by, and she tax rate that they would be at. So it is their place of employment, they should said, ‘‘How much taxes am I going to money for them for college. talk to the personnel director, whoever owe?’’ Speaking of college, very, very im- it is that handles the W–4 forms, they And I said, ‘‘Well, you’re not going to portant. I took my daughter to her should change the number of exemp- owe any Federal taxes on the sale of first year of college. My son had left tions so as to allow their take-home your home.’’ for—he is a junior in college, and of pay to increase for $33 per month per So she said, ‘‘Does that mean I owe course we talked to a lot of college stu- child. income taxes?’’ dents and the parents of a lot of college Let me put this another way. If you And I said, ‘‘No, no, you do not owe students, and there is a general lack of have three children in your family, for any Federal taxes when you go to sell understanding of how this college tui- most families you should start taking that house.’’ tion credit is going to work. Well, it home $100 a month more in your take- And she said, ‘‘Even though it went works like this: home paycheck than what you were in from $22,000, I’m going to get $60,000 If you have got a freshman or a soph- December. So the difference between back, how much taxes do I owe?’’ She omore in college and the cost of their your take-home pay in December and asked me three times the same ques- college education is $2,000 a year or January should be $100 a month for a tion because folks are having a hard more, and in Wisconsin at least that is family with three children. time believing that Washington actu- the vast majority of the cases, if it is That is significant; it is real. The bill ally did something right, they actually 2,000 a year or more in costs, the par- is signed. You should do it in January lowered taxes instead of raising them ents get to keep $1,500 more of their of next year, increase your take-home like they were doing previously. own hard-earned money in their own pay. Keep the money in your own So the third part here that I would home rather than sending it out here home; do not send it out here to Wash- like to talk about then in the tax cut, to Washington. ington. if you owned your home, you have lived And, again, I would point out this is But that is not all in the tax cut bill. there for 2 years or more, and you sell not a gift from Washington. This is The other thing that people seemed your home, in the vast majority of the money that the people have gotten up when I talked with them out in Wis- cases, the only exceptions are the very in the morning, gone to work and consin to be generally familiar with high priced homes, you will not owe earned. The only thing is instead of was the capital gains reduction. The any Federal taxes on the sale of that being taxed on it, instead of that tax capital gains tax in the past was 28 per- home. coming out here to Washington and cent, and that has been reduced to 20 This affects a lot of senior citizens, Washington spending it, you keep that percent. So the good news is that cap- also. In Wisconsin, 74 percent of our money in your own home. ital gains, the amount of money that senior citizens still own their home, So if you have a freshman in college, you send to Washington, is lower when and it may be people that took the one- and the costs of their college tuition is you sell a stock or a bond or whatever time 55 exclusion that had bought a $2,000, room, board and tuition is $2,000 it is that you might have held and different home at age 56, maybe a or more, you should start keeping $125 made a profit on. smaller home or whatever, but if they a month more in your take-home pay Good news is that drops even further have lived in the house for 2 years and starting in January of next year. in the year 2000, to 18 percent, and it they are now 60, let us say, for exam- And, again, that is simply 1,500 di- depends on your income bracket there. ple, they can now sell that home, move vided by 12 is $125 a month more. If you are in a $41,000-a-year or higher to a different home, if they like, own it For juniors and seniors, if the cost is income bracket, the capital gains are for 2 years, sell it again, so there is no over $5,000, which in many cases it is 20 percent, and if you are lower than one-time exclusion, you can do this as for room, board, and tuition, you that, they dropped all the way down to many times as you want as long as you should start keeping a thousand dollars 10 percent. live in the home for at least 2 years. more of your own money in your own Those two people seem to be vaguely So this part was very unfamiliar with paycheck, and again that should start familiar with, at least out there, but most of the people out there. in January. there is a whole bunch of others that Then I went on to the part and I This is very, very straightforward, they were not familiar with at all. Let started talking about saving up for and if the people do not start keeping me start with the first one. their children’s education, because we their own money, if they send it out If people own a home, homeowners had a lot of families that we were talk- here to Washington, we are not sure for the most part when they sell their ing with, and we started talking about Washington is not going to spend the September 3, 1997 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6779 money. We here in Washington, many stay in a community that otherwise Since 1969, each and every year Wash- of us, want the people to start keeping might not have stayed there. ington has written out more in checks their own money next January. Why There are so many different provi- than what it collected in taxes, so they should you send it out here to Wash- sions in this Tax Code that provide have literally overdrawn their check- ington when it is your money? benefits to the American people that I book each and every year since 1969. College tuition, then, freshman and found by the time I was done, we vir- That is called the deficit. sophomores, in most cases are going to tually could not find anyone who was When they overdrew their check- get a $1,500 credit; juniors and seniors not in some way, shape or form going book, what they did was borrowed the in most cases, in many, many cases, to benefit by this Tax Code. money, put it in their checkbook, and are going to get a $1,000 credit. I have left out one other group, and then, of course, the checks were cashed that is young couples or young work- b 2130 and on we went. ing folks, singles, couples. Those folks So for each and every year since 1969 I said are you interested in saving have the benefit of being able to save they have overdrawn their checkbook, more money for retirement. He said for education and their first home in and then they went and borrowed the yes, but I am in a pension funds al- this Roth IRA that I was just describ- money, put in the checkbook and made ready, so none of those IRA’s affect me. ing, where they can then literally take good on the checks. As you might I said well, no, that is not entirely the money out tax free and use it for imagine, since they have been borrow- true. In fact, this new IRA, called the the down payment on their first home ing more and more money each and Roth IRA, you can put $2,000 per year or for college education. every year since 1969, the debt has been into the Roth IRA per person. So in So, again, there is a benefit for the growing each and every year, and that this case a husband and wife could put young workers, the people in their is the $5.3 trillion we have staring us in $4,000 away for their retirement. thirties, forties, and fifties preparing the face. You put after tax dollars into the to retire for themselves, there is a ben- I am talking now about the debt and Roth IRA, but when you take the tax efit for seniors who own a home and how fast it has been growing, and I dollars out at retirement, it is tax free. who want to sell it, there is a benefit think it is very important that the This might be one of the best provi- literally all across the generations American people realize that we still sions for middle age people in the en- here, and certainly there are many, have a very significant problem staring tire country. This might be one of the many benefits for our families con- us in the face. best savings accounts in terms of tak- tained in the tax cut bill. On this chart I show the growing debt ing care of yourself in retirement. Again, I would be remiss to talk facing America. From 1960 to 1980, the So even if you are in a different pen- about these tax cuts without also say- growth was relatively slow and rel- sion fund, and even if you are already ing that the budget is balanced first. I atively small. That is, The deficits doing some other things to take care of would like to bring the American peo- were not big because they did not bor- yourself in retirement, you may want ple and my colleagues some other good row lots of money in each one of those to take a look at the Roth IRA, where news. Numbers have come out now that years. you can literally put $2,000 per person reestimate the revenues coming into But from 1980 forward, the debt has into this savings account, and at re- the Federal Government, and, in fact, been growing in large amounts. This is tirement, you take the money out tax as we have been saying in our office for what brought many Members of the free. quite some time, the economy is class of 1995 out here, the Republican It is very significant, because $2,000 stronger than people were giving it class of 1995. We watched this debt put in at age, say, 40 typically will at credit for and revenues are coming in grow and realized we were about here least triple by the time you reach re- faster. on this debt chart right now, and that tirement. That means it goes from What does that mean in English? The if we don’t do something about this as $2,000 thousand to $6,000 in value when budget is balanced for the first time a Nation, we are not going to have a fu- you take it out, and there is no tax on since 1969 next year. Four years ahead ture in this country. that $4,000 on increased value. A very, of schedule, we are on track to bal- That is what brought many of us here very significant change in the tax laws ancing the budget, the job is done, and in the first place, and that is why it is that people should be taking advantage your taxes are coming down at a great such good news we are going to stop of. time. borrowing the money and the red line Again, the idea here is to encourage What a great time this is in this will quit going up when we reach a bal- savings and encourage people to take country. I never, 3 years ago when I anced budget. care of themselves in retirement. was first elected, thought we would be When I point to 1980, all my col- Then we went on to talk to some oth- in a position to stand here and talk se- leagues on that side of the aisle say ers. Farms, roughly 90 percent of the riously about a balanced budget in 1998, sure, that is the year Ronald Reagan farms transferred from one generation taxes coming down, Medicare restored, was elected, and all my colleagues on to another in this Nation today will no welfare reform. Able-bodied welfare re- this year say yeah, I know, but that is longer have any taxes due because of cipients have now to go to work, and the year the Democrat Congress start- the Tax Code change. So for small not heartlessly. They are guaranteed a ed spending out of control. farmers and businessowners, you will job in Wisconsin. We are seeing our The fact of the matter is it doesn’t be able to pass that small business or welfare rolls fall dramatically. Good matter which side it was responsible. farm on to the next generation without news all across the specter in terms of The fact is we as a nation have this the tax burden that was there before. what has happened in the last couple debt staring us in the face, and it is not It is very clear to farmers as you pass years here in Washington. a Republican problem or a Democrat this on from one generation to another, With that, I would like to turn my problem, it is an American problem, the benefit. But there a hidden benefit attention now to another topic that I because this Government does rep- in here that not many people have find is very confusing as I talk with resent the people. It is time that we as picked up on. When a business is held groups of people. A lot of folks are say- a nation solve the problem, rather than by a family and the family has been ing if the budget is balanced, what pass the blame back and forth in the running that business for a period of about that $5 trillion debt out there? It House of Representatives and the Sen- time, if the owner of that business can- has to be smoke and mirrors, because ate and the presidency. not pass it on to the next generation, we know there is a $5 trillion debt out For those that have never seen this many times the business gets sold and there. number, this is the amount of money, somebody else takes over and the jobs Let me explain the difference be- it is $5.3 trillion, that is the amount of are moved out of that community to a tween two terms. The first term is defi- money that the Federal Government different community. So by allowing cit and the second term is debt. Deficit has borrowed on behalf of the Amer- that business to stay in the family and is like the family with their check- ican people. This is the accumulation be passed from one generation to an- book. Deficit is like overdrawing your of the overdrawn checkbook, the other, many times that means jobs check book. amount of money that was necessary H6780 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 3, 1997 to make the checkbook balance since This blue line shows the fixed and more people paying taxes in. This 1969. Gramm–Rudman-Hollings bill, and it was the 1995 theory. Let me translate that into English. I was promising a balanced budget in I think it is more than fair that the used to be a math teacher, so you will 1993. I think that 1992 and 1993, those American people should at this point see some of the math still in here. If we are real important dates to look at out start asking how did they do? How are divided this debt up by the number of there because, you see, when the budg- the Republicans doing? They came here people in the United States of America, et was supposed to be balanced, instead in 1995, laid down a plan to balance the if each and every American were to pay we had huge and growing deficits. So budget in 7 years, how are they doing? just their share of the Federal debt, rather than balance the budget as was I think that is a legitimate question. they would need to pay $20,000. The promised then under this bill, when we I brought the next chart along to show Federal Government has borrowed got to the early 1990’s, instead we had exactly how the new Congress, since $20,000 on behalf of the every man, huge, growing deficits. 1995, is doing. The red columns in this woman, and child in the United States So what did Washington do? In 1993, chart show the promises that were of America basically within the last 15 passed the biggest tax increase in made in 1995. These are the deficit to 20 years. American history. Washington looked amounts that the Republican Congress The real problem, you look at a fam- at this picture and concluded that the said we would keep the deficit to in ily of five like mine, my kids are here, right answer was to reach into the order to reach a balanced budget by the my wife is here, we have got five of us pockets of the American people and year 2002. in our House, the Federal Government take more money out of their pockets I am happy to say that in the first literally borrowed and spent $100,000 on and bring it out here to Washington. year, and this is in, this is not a prom- behalf of my family. Why would they do that? Well, be- ise, an empty promise, we not only hit The real problem, the kicker, is the cause if they take more money out of our target, but we were about $50 bil- bottom line number. You see every the pockets of the American people and lion ahead of schedule. family of five in the country today or bring it out here to Washington, they So the good news is, in year one, the the average family of five is paying can keep their Washington spending Republican plan not only hit our tar- $580 a month to do nothing but pay the programs going and still bring the defi- get, we were well ahead of schedule. interest on this debt. cit down. You see, that is what the tax Year two came. Year two, the change This money is owed to people. It is a increase of 1993 was all about. was significant. Washington borrowed real debt. Interest is being paid on it. To pass the tax increase of 1993, what over $100 billion less than was pro- The cost of interest alone to a family it really allowed them to do is keep jected out here until year two and it of five in the United States of America spending going out here in Washington. worked exactly the way the theory we today, or any group of five people, is Again I emphasize, this is the past, be- had hoped would work. $580 a month. A lot of people say, I do cause in 1994, the American people de- That is when Washington borrowed not really pay $580 a month in income cided to change what was going on in less money, because their deficit was tax. I don’t have to worry about it. Washington, D.C. In 1994, the people for lower, that left $100 billion more But it is not only income tax. If you the first time in many, many, many money available in the private sector; do something as simple as walk in the years elected a Republican House of $100 billion more in the private sector store and buy a loaf of bread, the store Representatives and a Republican Sen- kept the interest rates down, and sure owner makes a profit on that loaf of ate. This history of broken promises, enough, it worked. People bought more bread and, of course, part of that profit this history of tax increases, that houses and cars and stoves and refrig- gets sent out here to Washington, and, changed in 1995. erators and all the other things that go you guessed it, it goes to help pay the We had this theory when we came with it, and that provided job opportu- interest on the Federal debt. here in 1995 that went like this: Rather nities so the unemployment rate As a matter of fact, one dollar out of than raising taxes on the people and dropped to the lowest level in years. every six collected in taxes goes to taking more money out here to Wash- That meant job opportunities for peo- paying the interest on the Federal ington, why don’t we slow the growth ple. They went to work and started debt. So the real problem with this pic- of spending here in Washington, have paying taxes in, and of course, that ture is that there are real people out fewer Washington spending programs made the program go better. there, real families out there, that are and get to a balanced budget, because The rest of this chart was kind of paying $580 a month to do nothing but Washington is spending less, not be- theory a few days ago. We found out re- pay the interest on the debt. cause they are taking more money out cently that the theory was way too It would be logical to ask the ques- of the pockets of the American people. lacking the optimism that should be tion, how in the world did we get into That was our theory. there because of the strong economy this mess and didn’t anybody try to Our theory went like this: If we can we are in. We are now finding we are correct it in the past? just get Washington to spend less going to reach a balanced budget, this I wanted to talk specifically about money, that means they would borrow blue column, the actual deficit is going the past, the past. Let me define the less money out of the private sector. If to go to zero sometime between the past to be pre-1995. Again, this is very they borrowed less money out of the year 1998 and the year 1999, 3 or 4 years specific, what we are talking about private sector, of course, that means ahead of the promise that was made by here. The American people were prom- more money available in the private the Republicans back in 1995. Is this a ised a balanced budget repeatedly. This sector; more money available in the change or what? is not news that all of a sudden we have private sector, the law of supply and Before 1995, we had the broken prom- a $5 trillion debt staring us in the face. demand is straightforward, the interest ises of Gramm–Rudman-Hollings and As a matter of fact, the Gramm–Rud- rates stay down. the higher taxes. Post-1995, well, we are man-Hollings bill, first passed in 1985, So if we could just get Washington to 3 years into the plan and are now look- promised the American people a bal- spend less money, they would borrow ing at balancing the budget 3 years anced budget in 1991. Well, we look at less money. That would leave more ahead of schedule for the first time the deficit line in this chart, and what money available in the private sector, since 1969, and lowering taxes and re- actually happened, and it is clear that and with more money available, the in- storing Medicare at the same time be- the promise made from Washington terest rates would stay down. If the in- cause the idea of constraining the was broken. terest rates stayed down, our theory growth of Washington spending works. The promise was not kept. But they was, people would buy more houses, b knew what to do. When they couldn’t buy more cars; and of course when peo- 2145 keep the first promise, Washington ple bought more houses and cars, that A lot of folks say, well, you are just made a series of new promises. Again, I meant other people had to go to work plain lucky out there in Washington. emphasize this is the past. This is what building the houses and cars, and that You are just plain lucky. The economy led many of us into leaving the private meant job opportunities and less wel- is booming, and since the economy is sector and coming to Washington. fare and less cost to the Government booming there is more revenue coming September 3, 1997 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6781 in, and you guys can get your job done like a constant battle out here in Federal debt would be repaid, and we and you all look great out there doing Washington. I want to say something. I would pass this Nation on to our chil- it, and everybody is bragging about it. was here. It was a constant battle. It dren debt-free. But there is another I brought with me a chart to show was worse here living through it than hidden advantage to doing that. As we the actual facts on that particular ar- what the American people saw out are paying down the Federal debt, the gument as well, because I hear that there in public. money that has been taken out of the quite a few different places that I go But at the end of 1995, we had made Social Security Trust Fund would also to. We have had booming economies in progress. This yellow line in the chart be returned. the past. In the past every time Wash- shows what the deficit projections were Social Security is collecting more ington went into a booming economy after one year of very difficult battles. dollars than it is paying back out to Washington subsequently went into The green line shows what we had our senior citizens in benefits each booming spending cycles. In fact, all hoped to do. We laid this out in 1995, year. As a matter of fact, this year the extra revenue that came in, they and again, we hoped to get to that bal- alone the Social Security system will spent it, so we never did get the deficit anced budget by the year 2002. collect about $70 billion more in tax down. We never did get to a balanced The good news is here. The good news revenue than what it is paying back budget. is what we have actually accomplished out to our senior citizens in benefits. In fact, this Congress since 1995 is is below either one of those projec- The idea is that money is supposed to very different. We are in a booming tions, and in fact we are now going to be set aside in a savings account so economy. Yes, the revenues are coming reach zero right here in the year 1998 or when the baby boom generation gets to in stronger than expected. But rather 1999. So not only are we not losing retirement, you can go to the savings than go and spend the extra money, what was given to us in 1995 when we account, get the money, put it in the this Congress has seen fit to slow the got here, but we are going to reach a checkbook, and make good on the So- growth of Washington spending by over balanced budget in 1998 or 1999 for the cial Security payments to our senior 40 percent at the same time the econ- first time in more than a generation. citizens. omy remains strong. Again, I cannot emphasize this That money, though, it is not in that This is how fast Washington spending enough. The last time the budget was savings account. That money is all was growing before 1995. This is how balanced I was a sophomore in high part of this $5.3 trillion debt. What So- fast it is growing since 1995 on through school. My son is now a junior in col- cial Security is doing is instead of put- the year 2002. So let us make this very lege, my daughter is a freshman in col- ting the money in the savings account, clear. In the face of a strong economy lege, and my youngest is a freshman in they are collecting the Social Security and more revenues coming in, instead high school. This is more than a full tax dollars, more than what they are of Washington doing what it has al- generation ago, the last time we bal- paying out to seniors in benefits, they ways done in the past, going and spend- anced the Federal budget. It is great are putting all the money in the gen- ing the extra money, what Washington news for the future of this country. eral fund, in the big government check- did is at the same time the economy I have been real upbeat and I have book, if you like. They are writing out was strong they slowed the growth of been real optimistic about this, as well checks out of that checkbook, and of Washington spending. we should be. We should be celebrating course there is no money left at the So in the face of a slowed growth of this first balanced budget in a genera- end. That is the deficit. Then they are Washington spending and a strong tion; welfare reform, taxes coming simply putting an IOU down in the So- economy, we hit our deficit targets, we down, Medicare restored, we should be cial Security Trust Fund. are on track, we are ahead of schedule, celebrating this. But we would be re- Under the National Debt Repayment and we are about to balance the budget miss if we did not recognize that even Act, as we go about paying off the Fed- for the first time since 1969, while at after we got a balanced budget, we still eral debt, we would also be putting the the same time lowering taxes and re- have this $5.3 trillion debt hanging money back into the Social Security storing Medicare. over our head. Trust Fund. So under the National For those that are interested in infla- Remember, when we say the budget Debt Repayment Act, we create a sur- tion-adjusted dollars, it is even more is balanced, that is just a checkbook. plus by slowing the growth of Washing- dramatic. The Washington spending All we mean is that we are taking in as ton spending, which we have already was increasing by 1.8 percent. It has many dollars as we are spending in this been successful doing. now been slowed to .6 percent. We are given year. That does not pay this debt We just continue what we have done down to a point where Washington off. I have good news on that front, for the last 2 years, continue it on for- spending in real dollars has virtually though, too. We are working on it. We ward. We create that surplus, we take stopped in terms of increasing spend- have a plan on the table right now, it one-third of the surplus and work to re- ing. That is good news, and that is why is called the National Debt Repayment duce taxes further each year for the we are also able to both balance the Act. American people. We take two-thirds budget and reduce taxes at the same What the plan does is this. It says and apply it to the Federal debt, and time for the good of the American peo- after we reach a balanced budget, we when we are repaying the debt, it is ple. recognize we still have this huge prob- completely repaid by the year 2026, we I brought one more chart with me lem. We have a responsibility to future are also restoring the Social Security that I think says it all, because a lot of generations to do something about this Trust Fund. people are saying, well, how can all of problem. So after we reach a balanced Just think about this. It is not only this stuff happen at the same time? budget, we are going to cap the growth the fact that we are doing the right You know, in fact, would this all have of Washington spending at a rate of at thing, we are paying the bills we have happened anyhow? least 1 percent under the rate of reve- run up over the last generation; it is This chart shows what would have nue growth. So spending is now going not only that. It is not only that we happened if when we got here back in up slower than revenue growth. are going to give this Nation to our 1995 we had played golf, tennis and bas- With spending going up slower than children debt free. ketball instead of doing our jobs. The the rate of revenue growth, if you start It goes a step further. When the debt deficit line that is shown here in the a balance, that creates a surplus. With goes away $1 out of every $6 that the red, this is what we inherited when we the surplus, we take one-third of that Federal Government is now spending got here, back in 1995. In fact, Members surplus and provide additional tax cuts no longer needs to be spent. That opens can see that the deficits were projected to the American people, so the Amer- the door for huge tax cuts for the to go all the way up to $350 billion at ican people should expect a tax cut American people. that point in time. every year from here on out. Two- When we start talking about these A lot of people remember 1995. They thirds of it goes to repaying the Fed- tax cuts, let us talk about some of the remember the 100 days. They remember eral debt. possibilities here, because under the the government shutdowns. They re- I have great news. If we were to enact National Debt Repayment Act, as the member the hassles and what seemed this plan, by the year 2026 the entire debt gets paid down, lower interest H6782 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 3, 1997 payments, the government needs less comparing the past, the present, and body watching tonight, my colleagues, money, we can now talk about revamp- the future. are eligible for. You can put up to ing the entire tax system. The past: broken promises of the $2,000 per year per person into the Roth I do not know how all of my col- Gramm–Rudman-Hollings bill, the IRA for a husband and wife, $4,000 a leagues feel and all the listeners this higher taxes of 1990, 1993; especially year you put in after-tax dollars, which evening feel, but many of us do not like 1993, the biggest tax increase in Amer- means you have already paid taxes on the fact that the IRS is so complicated ican history, taxes went up with a gas- that money. But the good news is the it is almost impossible to understand. oline tax increase. For those who were interest accumulates tax-free, and In all fairness, the new Tax Code did not paying real close attention, the when you take it out, it is tax-free not make it any easier. It did lower discussion went like, well, that tax in- completely. So you put the money in, taxes. We should not complain about crease is only on the rich. But you it accumulates, and at retirement the fact that taxes are coming down. were rich if you bought gasoline at a when you take the money out it is tax- But the fact is the IRS is far too cum- gas pump, because it went up 4.3 cents free. bersome and far too difficult to under- a gallon. For young folks, if you want to save stand. So the tax increases of 1993, the bro- up to buy a house or college education, As we look at these tax cuts down ken promises of a balanced budget of put money into an IRA type account the road, therefore, it gives us the op- Gramm-Rudman-Hollings, all of these and you are allowed to take it out portunity to throw out the IRS as we deficits that ran up this huge 5.3 tril- without the penalty. For small busi- know it and bring in a new tax system lion dollar debt, that is all in the past. nesses, and I may not have mentioned that would be a lot simpler than the In 1994, the American people, and the this one earlier, the health care deduc- one we have today. Until we get this in credit should go to the American peo- tion for self-employed people is going hand, we cannot do that. ple, the American people changed what all the way up to 100 percent over a pe- So the good news under the National was going on. They sent a new group riod of years. Debt Repayment Act, and again I out here to run Washington. Death taxes are reformed. Ninety would encourage all of my colleagues Under that new group, where are we percent of farms are passed from one that are not already on board as co- at? I think it is a fair question to ask, generation to another with no taxes sponsors to join us in the National where are we at? We are in the third paid. Businesses, family owned busi- Debt Repayment Act, what it does is it year of a 7-year plan to balance the nesses will pass on to the next genera- pays off the debt by the year 2026 so Federal budget. We are not only on tion in many cases without taxes so our children get this Nation debt-free, track, we are ahead of schedule. We the jobs can stay there in the commu- restores the Social Security trust fund will have our first balanced budget nity. for our senior citizens, and for those since 1969 next year, three or four years The point of this is we are in a very, people in the work force today, for ahead of what was promised back in very changed Washington, DC. The tax those people in the work force today, 1995. So for the first time since 1969 the hike of 1993 versus the tax cut of 1997, they should expect additional tax cuts budget will be balanced. It has changed that is dramatically different. There each and every year as far as the eye here in Washington. Instead of the bro- has been a dramatic change that has can see. It is great news to the Amer- ken promises of the past, we will have been brought on by the American peo- ican people. a balanced budget for the first time. ple, sending a new group out here to When we start thinking about the fu- How about the higher taxes of 1993? control the House and Senate, and the ture tax cuts, I opened the hour here by That is not happening under this Con- American people have a right to under- talking about the fact that I had lis- gress, either. As a matter of fact, taxes stand just how far we have come. tened to a lot of people out there in are coming down. Just to run through The present: a balanced budget for Wisconsin. What the people told me that list of tax cuts and what is all in the first time since 1969. The present, when I listened to them is two tax cuts this bill, again, just briefly, $500 per tax cuts, the first time in 16 years. The they were most interested in. The first child, starting—it is $400 next year and present: Medicare restored for our sen- one is the marriage tax penalty. This is goes up to $500 the year after; capital ior citizens. The present: welfare re- just totally unfair in our society today. gains going from 28 to 20, or even to 10, cipients, able-bodied welfare recipients I could not find anybody who did not depending on your income bracket. If having the opportunity to work so they think we should not get rid of the mar- you sell your home, it is your principal have a chance at a job promotion and a riage tax penalty. residence, you have lived there for 2 better life for themselves and their That works like this. If you have 4 years, in general there will be no taxes families. That is the present. It is very, people all working in the same place at on the sale of your home. However old very different than it was just a couple the same time earning exactly the you are, the one-time exclusion age 55 of short years ago out here. I do not be- same salary, but two of those people is no longer there. lieve the American people fully under- are married to each other and two of Grandparents, parents, to save up for stand the magnitude of the change yet. those people are not married to each your children’s education you can put That is the present. other, the two people not married to up to $500 per year per child into a sav- Where are we going? Well, even after each other pay less tax than the two ings account. The interest accumulates we get the budget balanced, even after people that are married to each other. tax-free. College tuition for most fresh- we started with the first tax reduction That is called the marriage tax pen- men and sophomores out there, the in 16 years, Medicare restored for a dec- alty, and that is just plain wrong. That parents are going to keep $125 a month ade, we still have a $5.3 trillion debt is one thing I heard. more. That is $125 a month more if you hanging over our heads. The other thing I heard repeatedly is, have a freshman or sophomore in col- b Mark, just simplify the entire Tax lege, in most cases you keep that 2200 Code. Just make it a lot simpler. If you money in your house. You earned it. It We have introduced the National are going to do more tax cuts, for good- is not a gift. You earned it. It is your Debt Repayment Act, which would ness sakes, just cut it across board. I money. You keep it instead of sending repay the debt in its entirety by the can tell the Members, we are going to it out here to Washington. $1,500 is the year 2026, giving this Nation to our look forward to eliminating the mar- total for freshmen or sophomores, children debt-free. It would restore the riage tax penalty and work towards an $1,500, and in most cases for a junior or Social Security Trust Fund for our sen- across-the-board tax cut for virtually senior it is $1,000 that you keep in your ior citizens and, as it creates surpluses all Americans out there. So whatever own home. by controlling the growth of Washing- bracket you are in, it would be very If you are in a pension fund today, ton spending, one-third of those sur- easy to compute if your taxes went wherever you are, if you are saving for pluses would be used to provide addi- down by 5 percent or 10 percent or retirement, if you would like to in- tional tax cuts. whatever the number is. crease the amount that you are saving Think what a changed environment I would like to wrap up my part this for your retirement, there is a new IRA this is: The budget is balanced, taxes evening by again going back and just called the Roth IRA that most every- coming down, and a plan on the table September 3, 1997 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6783 that actually talks about paying off Mr. PAYNE, for 5 minutes, today. committee had examined and found the Federal debt, instead of how we are f truly enrolled bills of the House of the going to stop borrowing this money. following titles, which were thereupon EXTENSION OF REMARKS What a changed country this is. signed by the Speaker: We as the American people should By unanimous consent, permission to H.R. 408. An act to amend the Marine start having optimistic visions of the revise and extend remarks was granted Mammal Protection Act of 1972 to support future again for our children. Growth, to: the International Dolphin Conservation Pro- opportunities, our kids are going to (The following Members (at the re- gram in the eastern tropical Pacific Ocean, have opportunities in America just like quest of Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas) and and for other purposes. we did to start from scratch and build to include extraneous matter:) H.R. 584. An act for the relief of John Wes- a company from the ground up, or do Mr. HAMILTON. ley Davis. what they want to do in this society. Mr. ROEMER. H.R. 1198. An act to direct the Secretary of Those opportunities will once again be Ms. DELAURO. the Interior to convey certain land to the City of Grants Pass, Oregon. there because instead of passing them Mr. MOAKLEY. H.R. 1585. An act to allow postal patrons to an ever growing debt, instead of giving Mr. DAVIS of Illinois. Ms. MALONEY of New York. contribute to funding for breast cancer re- them a legacy of virtual bankruptcy, Ms. WOOLSEY. search through the voluntary purchase of we are now in a position to talk seri- Mr. LANTOS. certain specially issued United States post- ously about repaying the debt, passing age stamps, and for other purposes. Mr. NADLER. the Nation on to our children debt-free, H.R. 1944. An act to provide for a land ex- Mr. HOYER. restoring Social Security for our senior change involving the Warner Canyon Ski Mr. OLVER. Area and other land in the State of Oregon citizens, and additional tax cuts for Mr. DICKS. people in the work force today. H.R. 2014. An act to provide for reconcili- Mr. PASCRELL. ation pursuant to subsections (b)(2) and (d) That is what this is all about, and I Mr. BONIOR. sincerely hope that is what my service of section 105 of the concurrent resolution on Mr. TOWNS. the budget for fiscal year 1998. to this country is all about, because it Mr. KLECZKA. H.R. 2015. An act to provide for reconcili- is a worthwhile endeavor if we reach Mr. BENTSEN. ation pursuant to subsections (b)(1) and (c) of those goals. Mr. STARK. section 105 of the concurrent resolution on f Mr. LIPINSKI. the budget for fiscal year 1998. Mr. NEAL. LEAVE OF ABSENCE Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas. f By unanimous consent, leave of ab- Ms. SANCHEZ. sence was granted to: Mr. CLEMENT. BILLS PRESENTED TO THE Mr. GONZALEZ (at the request of Mr. Mr. BERMAN. PRESIDENT GEPHARDT) for today and the balance of Mr. MANTON. the week, on account of medical rea- Mr. DINGELL. Mr. THOMAS, from the Committee sons. Mr. HASTINGS of Florida. on House Oversight reported that that Mr. SCHIFF (at the request of Mr. Mr. CLAY. committee did on the following dates ARMEY) for today and the balance of (The following Members (at the re- present to the President, for his ap- the week, on account of medical rea- quest of Mr. CAMPBELL) and to include proval, bills of the House of the follow- sons. extraneous matter:) ing titles: f Mr. FORBES. On August 1, 1997: Mr. HUTCHINSON. SPECIAL ORDERS GRANTED H.R. 2014. An act to provide for reconcili- Mr. HAYWORTH. ation pursuant to subsections (b)(2) and (d) By unanimous consent, permission to Mr. NEY. of section 105 of the concurrent resolution on address the House, following the legis- Mr. SHIMKUS. the budget for fiscal year 1998. lative program and any special orders Mr. LEWIS of California. H.R. 2015. An act to provide for reconcili- heretofore entered, was granted to: Mr. CAMPBELL. ation pursuant to subsections (b)(1) and (c) of (The following Members (at the re- Mr. SOLOMON. section 105 of the concurrent resolution on quest of Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas) to Mr. GREENWOOD. the budget for fiscal year 1998. revise and extend their remarks and in- Mr. BEREUTER. H.R. 1198. An act to direct the Secretary of clude extraneous material:) Mr. FRELINGHUYSEN. the Interior to convey certain land to the city of Grants Pass, Oregon. Mr. PALLONE, for 5 minutes, today. Mr. DUNCAN. Mr. DAVIS of Virginia. H.R. 584. An act for the relief of John Wes- Mr. DAVIS of Illinois, for 5 minutes, ley Davis. today. Mr. CALVERT. Mr. BOB SCHAFFER of Colorado. H.R. 1944. An act to provide for a land ex- Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas, for 5 min- change involving the Warner Canyon Ski utes, today. Mr. CHRISTENSEN. (The following Members (at the re- Area and other land in the State of Oregon. Mr. BISHOP, for 5 minutes, today. H.R. 1585. An act to allow postal patrons to quest of Mr. NEUMANN) and to include Mr. GREEN, for 5 minutes, today. contribute to funding for breast cancer re- (The following Members (at the re- extraneous matter:) search through the voluntary purchase of Mr. PACKARD. quest of Mr. CAMPBELL) to revise and certain specially issued United States post- Mr. ETHERIDGE. extend their remarks and include ex- age stamps, and for other purposes. Mr. GOODLATTE. traneous material:) On August 4, 1997: Mr. KIND. H.R. 408. An act to amend the Marine Mr. HULSHOF, for 5 minutes, on Sep- Mr. ENGEL. Mammal Protection Act of 1972 to support tember 4. f the International Dolphin Conservation Pro- Mr. MCINTOSH, for 5 minutes, on Sep- gram in the eastern tropical Pacific Ocean, tember 4. SENATE BILL REFERRED and for other purposes. Mr. HOEKSTRA, for 5 minutes, today. A bill of the Senate of the following Mr. CAMPBELL, for 5 minutes, today. title was taken from the Speaker’s f Mr. GOSS, for 5 minutes, today and on table and, under the rule, referred as September 4 and 5. follows: ADJOURNMENT Mr. JONES, for 5 minutes, on Septem- S. 1120. An act to provide for a consultant ber 9. for the President pro tempore; to the Com- Mr. NEUMANN. Mr. Speaker, I move Mr. BILIRAKIS, for 5 minutes, on Sep- mittee on House Oversight. that the House do now adjourn. tember 4. f The motion was agreed to; accord- (The following Member (at his own ingly (at 10 o’clock and 2 minutes request) to revise and extend his re- ENROLLED BILLS SIGNED p.m.), the House adjourned until to- marks and include extraneous mate- Mr. THOMAS, from the Committee morrow, Thursday, September 4, 1997, rial:) on House Oversight, reported that that at 10 a.m. H6784 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 3, 1997 EXPENDITURE REPORTS CONCERNING OFFICIAL FOREIGN TRAVEL Reports and amended reports concerning the foreign currencies and U.S. dollars utilized by various committees, House of Representatives, during the 1st and 2d quarters of 1997 in connection with official foreign travel, a consolidated report of Speaker authorized travel in the 2d quarter of 1997, pursuant to Public Law 95–384, as well as foreign currencies and U.S. dollars utilized by various miscellaneous groups, House of Representatives, are as follows:

AMENDED REPORT OF EXPENDITURES FOR OFFICIAL FOREIGN TRAVEL, COMMITTEE ON AGRICULTURE, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, EXPENDED BETWEEN JAN. 1 AND MAR. 31, 1977

Date Per diem 1 Transportation Other purposes Total U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar Name of Member or employee Country Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Arrival Departure currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency 2 currency 2 currency 2 currency 2

Hon. Sanford Bishop ...... 3/22 3/28 Canada ...... 169.49 ...... 169.49 Hon. Helen Chenoweth ...... 3/26 3/28 Canada ...... 169.49 ...... 169.49 Hon. Michael Crapo ...... 3/22 3/28 Canada ...... 169.49 ...... 169.49 Hon. Earl Hilliard ...... 3/22 3/28 Canada ...... 169.49 ...... 169.49 Hon. Collin Peterson ...... 3/22 3/28 Canada ...... 169.49 ...... 169.49 Hon. Robert F. Smith ...... 3/22 3/28 Canada ...... 169.49 ...... 169.49 Hon. Charles Stenholm ...... 3/23 3/28 Canada ...... 169.48 ...... 169.48 Andrew Baker ...... 3/22 3/28 Canada ...... 169.48 ...... 169.48 Sharla Moffett ...... 3/22 3/28 Canada ...... 169.48 ...... 169.48 Michael Nervda ...... 3/22 3/28 Canada ...... 169.48 ...... 169.48 Bryce Quick ...... 3/22 3/28 Canada ...... 169.48 ...... 169.48 Jason Vaillancourt ...... 3/22 3/28 Canada ...... 169.48 ...... 169.48 Paul Unger ...... 3/22 3/28 Canada ...... 169.48 ...... 169.48

Committee total ...... 2,203.30 ...... 2,203.30

1 Per diem constitutes lodging and meals. 2 If foreign currency is used, enter U.S. dollar equivalent; if U.S. currency is used, enter amount expended. BOB SMITH, Chairman, July 23, 1997.

REPORT OF EXPENDITURES FOR OFFICIAL FOREIGN TRAVEL, COMMITTEE ON NATIONAL SECURITY, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, EXPENDED BETWEEN JAN. 1 AND MAR. 31, 1997

Date Per diem 1 Transportation Other purposes Total U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar Name of Member or employee Country Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Arrival Departure currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency 2 currency 2 currency 2 currency 2

Visit to Israel, Jordan, Egypt and Morocco: Hon. Terry Everett ...... 1/11 1/13 Israel ...... 417.00 ...... 417.00 1/13 1/14 Jordan ...... 251.00 ...... 251.00 1/14 1/17 Egypt ...... 701.00 ...... 701.00 Commercial airfare ...... 2,743.68 ...... 2,743.68

Committee total ...... 1,369.00 ...... 2,743.68 ...... 0.00 ...... 4,112.68

1 Per diem constitutes lodging and meals. 2 If foreign currency is used, enter U.S. dollar equivalent; if U.S. currency is used, enter amount expended. FLOYD SPENCE, Chairman, July 31, 1997.

REPORT OF EXPENDITURES FOR OFFICIAL FOREIGN TRAVEL, COMMITTEE ON AGRICULTURE, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, EXPENDED BETWEEN APR. 1 AND JUNE 30, 1997.

Date Per diem 1 Transportation Other purposes Total U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar Name of Member or employee Country Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Arrival Departure currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency 2 currency 2 currency 2 currency 2

Hon. Terry Everett ...... 5/8 5/10 Nicaraqua ...... 468.50 ...... ( 3 ) ...... 468.50 Hon. Robert F. Smith ...... 5/24 5/28 Thailand ...... 570.00 ...... 3,972.95 ...... 4,542.95 5/28 6/1 Philippines ...... 1,188.00 ...... 1,188.00 Hon. Richard Pombo ...... 5/24 5/28 Thailand ...... 570.00 ...... 3,972.95 ...... 4,542.95 5/28 6/1 Philippines ...... 1,188.00 ...... 1,188.00 Hon. Bill Barrett ...... 5/24 5/28 Thailand ...... 570.00 ...... 3,972.95 ...... 4,542.95 5/28 6/1 Philippines ...... 1,188.00 ...... 1,188.00 Paul Unger ...... 5/24 5/28 Thailand ...... 570.00 ...... 3,972.95 ...... 4,542.95 5/28 6/1 Philippines ...... 1,188.00 ...... 1,188.00 Bryce Quick ...... 5/24 5/28 Thailand ...... 570.00 ...... 3,972.95 ...... 4,542.95 5/28 6/1 Philippines ...... 1,188.00 ...... 1,188.00 Kevin Kramp ...... 5/24 5/28 Thailand ...... 570.00 ...... 3,972.95 ...... 4,542.95 Committee totals ...... 11,016.50 ...... 23,837.70 ...... 34,854.20 1 Per diem constitutes lodging and meals. 2 If foreign currency is used, enter U.S. dollar equivalent; if U.S. currency is used, enter amount expended. 3 Military air transportation. BOB SMITH, July 23, 1997.

REPORT OF EXPENDITURES FOR OFFICIAL FOREIGN TRAVEL, COMMITTEE ON BANKING AND FINANCIAL SERVICES, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, EXPENDED BETWEEN APR. 1 AND JUNE 30, 1997

Date Per diem 1 Transportation Other purposes Total U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar Name of Member or employee Country Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Arrival Departure currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency 2 currency 2 currency 2 currency 2

Sean Peterson ...... 4/4 4/8 Johannesburg, South Africa ...... 1,035.00 ...... 1,035.00 4/9 4/11 Harare, Zimbabwe ...... 585.00 ...... 585.00 4/12 4/15 London, England ...... 1,284.00 ...... 7,229.25 ...... 8,513.25 Armando Falcon ...... 5/9 5/14 Fukouka, Japan ...... 1,295.00 ...... 4,646.95 ...... 5,941.95 Hon. Mark Foley ...... 6/12 6/16 Port-au-Prince, Haiti ...... 892.00 ...... 542.45 ...... 1,434.45

Committee totals ...... $5,091.00 ...... $12,418.65 ...... $17,509.65 1 Per diem constitutes lodging and meals. 2 If foreign currency is used, enter U.S. dollar equivalent; if U.S. currency is used, enter amount expended. JIM LEACH, Chairman, July 31, 1997. September 3, 1997 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6785 REPORT OF EXPENDITURES FOR OFFICIAL FOREIGN TRAVEL, COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENT REFORM AND OVERSIGHT, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, EXPENDED BETWEEN APR. 1 AND JUNE 30, 1997

Date Per diem 1 Transportation Other purposes Total U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar Name of Member or employee Country Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Arrival Departure currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency 2 currency 2 currency 2 currency 2

Robert Taub ...... 6/10 6/15 Denmark ...... 661.96 ...... 2,118.29 ...... 16.45 ...... 2,796.70 John T. Griffin ...... 5/18 5/22 United Kingdom ...... 403.63 ...... 736.65 ...... 42.02 ...... 1,182.30 Joseph F. Jakub III ...... 5/18 5/21 United Kingdom ...... 563.47 ...... 779.28 ...... 9.35 ...... 1,352.10 Hon. J. Dennis Hastert ...... 5/23 5/24 Panama ...... 179.00 ...... 3 13.33 ...... 3 36.11 ...... 228.44 5/24 5/26 Colombia ...... 636.00 ...... 3 111.11 ...... 3 116.67 ...... 863.78 5/27 5/28 Bolivia ...... 298.00 ...... 37.14 ...... 47.67 ...... 382.81 5/29 6/1 Peru ...... 770.00 ...... 118.92 ...... 150.15 ...... 1,039.07 Hon. Mark E. Souder ...... 5/23 5/24 Panama ...... 179.00 ...... 3 13.33 ...... 3 36.11 ...... 228.44 5/24 5/26 Colombia ...... 636.00 ...... 3 111.11 ...... 3 116.67 ...... 863.78 5/27 5/28 Bolivia ...... 298.00 ...... 37.14 ...... 47.67 ...... 382.81 5/29 6/1 Peru ...... 770.00 ...... 118.92 ...... 150.15 ...... 1,039.07 Marshall Sanford ...... 5/23 5/24 Panama ...... 179.00 ...... 3 13.33 ...... 3 36.11 ...... 228.44 5/24 5/26 Colombia ...... 636.00 ...... 3 111.11 ...... 3 116.67 ...... 863.78 5/27 5/28 Bolivia ...... 298.00 ...... 37.14 ...... 47.67 ...... 382.81 5/29 6/1 Peru ...... 770.00 ...... 118.92 ...... 150.15 ...... 1,039.07 Hon. Bob Barr ...... 5/23 5/24 Panama ...... 179.00 ...... 3 13.33 ...... 3 36.11 ...... 228.44 5/24 5/26 Colombia ...... 636.00 ...... 3 111.11 ...... 3 116.67 ...... 863.78 5/27 5/28 Bolivia ...... 298.00 ...... 37.14 ...... 47.67 ...... 382.81 5/29 6/1 Peru ...... 770.00 ...... 118.92 ...... 150.15 ...... 1,039.07 Rod R. Blagojevich ...... 5/23 5/24 Panama ...... 179.00 ...... 3 13.33 ...... 3 36.11 ...... 228.44 5/24 5/26 Colombia ...... 636.00 ...... 3 111.11 ...... 3 116.67 ...... 863.78 5/27 5/28 Bolivia ...... 298.00 ...... 37.14 ...... 47.67 ...... 382.81 5/29 6/1 Peru ...... 770.00 ...... 118.92 ...... 150.15 ...... 1,039.07 Robert Charles ...... 5/23 5/24 Panama ...... 179.00 ...... 3 13.33 ...... 3 36.11 ...... 228.44 5/24 5/26 Colombia ...... 636.00 ...... 3 111.11 ...... 3 116.67 ...... 863.78 5/27 5/28 Bolivia ...... 298.00 ...... 37.14 ...... 47.67 ...... 382.81 5/29 6/1 Peru ...... 770.00 ...... 118.92 ...... 150.15 ...... 1,039.07 Sean Littlefield ...... 5/23 5/24 Panama ...... 179.00 ...... 3 13.33 ...... 3 36.11 ...... 228.44 5/24 5/26 Colombia ...... 636.00 ...... 3 111.11 ...... 3 116.67 ...... 863.78 5/27 5/28 Bolivia ...... 298.00 ...... 37.14 ...... 47.67 ...... 382.81 5/29 6/1 Peru ...... 770.00 ...... 118.92 ...... 150.15 ...... 1,039.07 Kevin Long ...... 5/23 5/24 Panama ...... 179.00 ...... 3 13.33 ...... 3 36.11 ...... 228.44 5/24 5/26 Colombia ...... 636.00 ...... 3 111.11 ...... 3 116.67 ...... 863.78 5/27 5/28 Bolivia ...... 298.00 ...... 37.14 ...... 47.67 ...... 382.81 5/29 6/1 Peru ...... 770.00 ...... 118.92 ...... 150.15 ...... 1,039.07 Committee total ...... 16,693.06 ...... 5,878.22 ...... 2,872.62 ...... $25,443.90 1 Per diem constitutes lodging and meals. 2 If foreign currency is used, enter U.S. dollar equivalent; if U.S. currency is used, enter amount expended. 3 Estimates only; information not available from State Department. DAN BURTON, Chairman, July 31, 1997.

REPORT OF EXPENDITURES FOR OFFICIAL FOREIGN TRAVEL, COMMITTEE ON NATIONAL SECURITY, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, EXPENDED BETWEEN APR. 1 AND JUNE 30, 1997

Date Per diem 1 Transportation Other purposes Total U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar Name of Member or employee Country Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Arrival Departure currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency 2 currency 2 currency 2 currency 2

Visit to Panama, Venezuela, Brazil, Argentina and Chile: Hon. Floyd D. Spence ...... 3/21 3/23 Panama ...... 358.00 ...... 358.00 3/23 3/25 Venezuela ...... 476.14 ...... 476.14 3/25 3/29 Brazil ...... 472.00 ...... 472.00 3/29 4/01 Argentina ...... 822.00 ...... 822.00 4/01 4/04 Chile ...... 898.00 ...... 898.00 Hon.Herbert H. Bateman ...... 3/21 3/23 Panama ...... 358.00 ...... 358.00 3/23 3/25 Venezuela ...... 476.14 ...... 476.14 3/25 3/29 Brazil ...... 472.00 ...... 472.00 3/29 4/01 Argentina ...... 822.00 ...... 822.00 4/01 4/04 Chile ...... 898.00 ...... 898.00 Hon. Howard ‘‘Buck’’ McKeon ...... 3/21 3/23 Panama ...... 358.00 ...... 358.00 3/23 3/25 Venezuela ...... 476.14 ...... 476.14 3/25 3/29 Brazil ...... 472.00 ...... 472.00 3/29 4/01 Argentina ...... 822.00 ...... 822.00 4/01 4/04 Chile ...... 898.00 ...... 898.00 Hon. John M.McHugh ...... 3/21 3/23 Panama ...... 358.00 ...... 358.00 3/23 3/25 Venezuela ...... 476.14 ...... 476.14 3/25 3/29 Brazil ...... 472.00 ...... 472.00 3/29 4/01 Argentina ...... 822.00 ...... 822.00 4/01 4/04 Chile ...... 898.00 ...... 898.00 Hon. Solomon P. Ortiz ...... 3/21 3/23 Panama ...... 358.00 ...... 358.00 3/23 3/25 Venezuela ...... 476.14 ...... 476.14 3/25 3/29 Brazil ...... 472.00 ...... 472.00 3/29 3/30 Argentina ...... 416.00 ...... 416.00 Commerical airfare ...... 2,987.85 ...... 2,987.85 Dr. Andrew K. Ellis ...... 3/21 3/23 Panama ...... 358.00 ...... 358.00 3/23 3/25 Venezuela ...... 476.14 ...... 476.14 3/25 3/29 Brazil ...... 472.00 ...... 472.00 3/29 3/30 Argentina ...... 416.00 ...... 416.00 Commerical airfare ...... 2,987.85 ...... 2,987.85 Andrea K. Aquino ...... 3/21 3/23 Panama ...... 358.00 ...... 358.00 3/23 3/25 Venezuela ...... 476.14 ...... 476.14 3/25 3/29 Brazil ...... 472.00 ...... 472.00 3/29 4/01 Argentina ...... 822.00 ...... 822.00 4/01 4/04 Chile ...... 898.00 ...... 898.00 Delegation expenses ...... 3/21 3/23 Panama ...... 106.30 ...... 106.30 3/25 3/29 Brazil ...... 370.18 ...... 2,621.70 ...... 2,991.88 3/29 4/01 Argentina ...... 815.00 ...... 3,941.61 ...... 4,756.61 Visit to China: Hon. Curt Weldon ...... 3/24 3/28 China ...... 954.00 ...... 954.00 Commerical airfare ...... 3,986.95 ...... 3,986.95 Visit to Panama: Gene Taylor ...... 4/01 4/04 Panama ...... 254.00 ...... 254.00 Commerical airfare ...... Panama ...... 2,026.95 ...... 2,026.95 George O. Withers ...... 4/01 4/04 Panama ...... 254.00 ...... 254.00 Commerical airfare ...... 1,400.95 ...... 1,400.95 Visit to Italy, Bosnia, Albania, and Germany: Hon. Sonny Bono ...... 4/19 4/21 Italy ...... 275.00 ...... 254.00 4/20 4/20 Bosnia ...... 0.00 ...... 0.00 4/21 4/21 Albania ...... 0.00 ...... 0.00 H6786 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 3, 1997 REPORT OF EXPENDITURES FOR OFFICIAL FOREIGN TRAVEL, COMMITTEE ON NATIONAL SECURITY, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, EXPENDED BETWEEN APR. 1 AND JUNE 30, 1997— Continued

Date Per diem 1 Transportation Other purposes Total U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar Name of Member or employee Country Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Arrival Departure currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency 2 currency 2 currency 2 currency 2

3/21 4/22 Germany ...... 75.00 ...... 75.00 Commerical airfare ...... 6,765.35 ...... 6,765.35 Committee totals ...... 20,386.98 ...... 21,341.08 ...... 6,669.61 ...... 48,397.67 1 Per diem constitutes lodging and meals. 2 If foreign currency is used, enter U.S. dollar equivalent; if U.S. currency is used, enter amount expended. FLOYD SPENCE, Chairman, July 31, 1997. REPORT OF EXPENDITURES FOR OFFICIAL FOREIGN TRAVEL, COMMITTEE ON RULES, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, EXPENDED BETWEEN APR. 1 AND JUNE 30, 1997

Date Per diem 1 Transportation Other purposes Total U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar Name of Member or employee Country Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Arrival Departure currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency 2 currency 2 currency 2 currency 2

Kristi E. Walseth ...... 5/29 6/1 Germany ...... $650 ...... 650.00 Commercial airfare ...... 3,434.65 ...... 3,434.65 Committee total ...... 4,084.65 1 Per diem constitutes lodging and meals. 2 If foreign currency is used, enter U.S. dollar equivalent; if U.S. currency is used, enter amount expended. JERRY B.H. SOLOMON, Chairman, July 10, 1997. REPORT OF EXPENDITURES FOR OFFICIAL FOREIGN TRAVEL, COMMITTEE ON SCIENCE, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, EXPENDED BETWEEN APR. 1 AND JUNE 30, 1997

Date Per diem 1 Transportation Other purposes Total U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar Name of Member or employee Country Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Arrival Departure currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency 2 currency 2 currency 2 currency 2

Hon. F. James Sensenbrenner ...... 4/1 4/5 China ...... 973.50 ...... 4,773.95 ...... 5,747.45 4/5 4/7 Japan ...... 636.00 ...... 636.00 Philip Kiko ...... 4/1 4/5 China ...... 973.50 ...... 4,773.95 ...... 5,747.45 4/5 4/7 Japan ...... 636.00 ...... 636.00 Hon. George Brown ...... 3/29 4/5 Mexico ...... 1,736.50 ...... 947.92 ...... 2,684.42 Michael Quear ...... 3/29 4/5 Mexico ...... 1,736.50 ...... 775.92 ...... 2,512.42 Committee total ...... 6,692.00 ...... 11,271.74 ...... 17,963.74 1 Per diem constitutes lodging and meals. 2 If foreign currency is used, enter U.S. dollar equivalent; if U.S. currency is used, enter amount expended. F. JAMES SENSENBRENNER, Chairman, July 17, 1997. REPORT OF EXPENDITURES FOR OFFICIAL FOREIGN TRAVEL, COMMITTEE ON WAYS AND MEANS, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, EXPENDED BETWEEN APR. 1 AND JUNE 30, 1997

Date Per diem 1 Transportation Other purposes Total U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar Name of Member or employee Country Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Arrival Departure currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency 2 currency 2 currency 2 currency 2

Hon. Bill Archer ...... 5/29 6/2 Russia ...... 1,103.00 ...... 2,384.95 ...... 396.63 ...... 3,884.58 Hon. Mac Collins ...... 5/29 6/2 Russia ...... 1,450.00 ...... 2,384.95 ...... 3.834.95 Hon. Barbara B. Kennelly ...... 5/29 6/2 Russia ...... 1,450.00 ...... 2,384.95 ...... 3,834.95 Hon. Wally Herger ...... 5/29 6/2 Russia ...... 1,450.00 ...... 2,384.95 ...... 3,834.95 Committee Total ...... 5,453.00 ...... 9,539.80 ...... 396.63 ...... 15,389.43 1 Per diem constitutes lodging and meals. 2 If foreign currency is used, enter U.S. dollar equivalent; if U.S. currency is used, enter amount expended. BILL ARCHER, Chairman, July 30, 1997. REPORT OF EXPENDITURES FOR OFFICIAL FOREIGN TRAVEL, PERMANENT SELECT COMMITTEE ON INTELLIGENCE, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, EXPENDED BETWEEN APR. 1 AND JUNE 30, 1997

Date Per diem 1 Transportation Other purposes Total U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar Name of Member or employee Country Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Arrival Departure currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency 2 currency 2 currency 2 currency 2

Michael Sheehy ...... 4/18 4/19 Europe ...... 317.00 ...... 317.00 Commercial airfare ...... 3,414.35 ...... 3,414.35 Thomas Newcomb ...... 4/18 4/25 Europe ...... 1,970.00 ...... 1,970.00 Commercial airfare ...... 3,035.15 ...... 3,035.00 Patrick Murphy ...... 4/18 4/25 Europe ...... 1,970.00 ...... 1,970.00 Commercial airfare ...... 3,035.15 ...... 3,035.15 Wendy Selig ...... 4/23 4/25 Europe ...... 468.00 ...... 468.00 Commercial airfare ...... 2,634.45 ...... 2,634.45 Hon. Julian Dixon ...... 5/8 5/10 Central America ...... 468.50 ...... 468.50 Calvin Humphrey ...... 5/8 5/10 Central America ...... 468.50 ...... 468.50 SWendy Selig ...... 5/8 5/10 Central America ...... 468.50 ...... 468.50 CODEL Expenses ...... 250.00 ...... 250.00 Hon. Norm Dicks ...... 5/23 5/30 Europe ...... 2,073.000 ...... 2,073.00 Commercial airfare ...... 3,368.25 ...... 3,368.25 Michael Sheehy ...... 5/23 5/25 Europe ...... 642.00 ...... 642.00 Commercial airfare ...... 3,849.25 ...... 3,849.25 Committee total ...... 8,845.50 ...... 19,336.60 ...... 250.00 ...... 28,432.10 1 Per diem constitutes lodging and meals. 2 If foreign currency is used, enter U.S. dollar equivalent; if U.S. currency is used, enter amount expended. PORTER J. GOSS, Chairman, July 18, 1997. September 3, 1997 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6787 REPORT OF EXPENDITURES FOR OFFICIAL FOREIGN TRAVEL, DELEGATION TO ASIA, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, EXPENDED BETWEEN MAR. 24 AND APR. 2, 1997

Date Per diem 1 Transportation Other purposes Total U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar Name of Member or employee Country Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Arrival Departure currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency 2 currency 2 currency 2 currency 2

Hon. Newt Gingrich ...... 3/24 3/26 Korea ...... 268,400 305.00 ...... 536,800 610.00 Hon. John Dingell ...... 3/24 3/26 Korea ...... 268,400 305.00 ...... 536,800 610.00 Hon. Bob Livingston ...... 3/24 3/26 Korea ...... 268,400 305.00 ...... 536,800 610.00 Hon. Doug Bereuter ...... 3/24 3/26 Korea ...... 268,400 305.00 ...... 536,800 610.00 Hon. Chris Cox ...... 3/24 3/26 Korea ...... 268,400 305.00 ...... 536,800 610.00 Hon. John Boehner ...... 3/24 3/26 Korea ...... 268,400 305.00 ...... 536,800 610.00 Hon. Jeff Jefferson ...... 3/24 3/26 Korea ...... 268,400 305.00 ...... 536,800 610.00 Hon. Jennifer Dunn ...... 3/24 3/26 Korea ...... 268,400 305.00 ...... 536,800 610.00 Hon. Al Hastings ...... 3/24 3/26 Korea ...... 268,400 305.00 ...... 536,800 610.00 Hon. Jay Kim ...... 3/24 3/26 Korea ...... 268,400 305.00 ...... 536,800 610.00 Hon. Ed Royce ...... 3/24 3/26 Korea ...... 268,400 305.00 ...... 536,800 610.00 Hon. Mark Foley ...... 3/24 3/26 Korea ...... 268,400 305.00 ...... 536,800 610.00 Bill Livingood ...... 3/24 3/26 Korea ...... 268,400 305.00 ...... 536,800 610.00 Arne Christenson ...... 3/24 3/26 Korea ...... 268,400 305.00 ...... 536,800 610.00 Gardner Peckham ...... 3/24 3/26 Korea ...... 268,400 305.00 ...... 536,800 610.00 Rachel Robinson ...... 3/24 3/26 Korea ...... 268,400 305.00 ...... 536,800 610.00 Ben Cohen ...... 3/24 3/26 Korea ...... 268,400 305.00 ...... 536,800 610.00 Barry Jackson ...... 3/24 3/26 Korea ...... 268,400 305.00 ...... 536,800 610.00 Christina Martin ...... 3/24 3/26 Korea ...... 268,400 305.00 ...... 536,800 610.00 Bob Hathaway ...... 3/24 3/26 Korea ...... 268,400 305.00 ...... 536,800 610.00 Adm./Dr. John Eisold ...... 3/24 3/26 Korea ...... 268,400 305.00 ...... 536,800 610.00 Dwight Comedy ...... 3/24 3/26 Korea ...... 268,400 305.00 ...... 536,800 610.00 Hon. Newt Gingrich ...... 3/26 3/27 Hong Kong ...... 3,049.56 394.00 ...... 3,049.56 394.00 Hon. John Dingell ...... 3/26 3/27 Hong Kong ...... 3,049.56 394.00 ...... 3,049.56 394.00 Hon. Bob Livingston ...... 3/26 3/27 Hong Kong ...... 3,049.56 394.00 ...... 3,049.56 394.00 Hon. Doug Bereuter ...... 3/26 3/27 Hong Kong ...... 3,049.56 394.00 ...... 3,049.56 394.00 Hon. Chris Cox ...... 3/26 3/27 Hong Kong ...... 3,049.56 394.00 ...... 3,049.56 394.00 Hon. John Boehner ...... 3/26 3/27 Hong Kong ...... 3,049.56 394.00 ...... 3,049.56 394.00 Hon. Jeff Jefferson ...... 3/26 3/27 Hong Kong ...... 3,049.56 394.00 ...... 3,049.56 394.00 Hon. Jennifer Dunn ...... 3/26 3/27 Hong Kong ...... 3,049.56 394.00 ...... 3,049.56 394.00 Hon. Al Hastings ...... 3/26 3/27 Hong Kong ...... 3,049.56 394.00 ...... 3,049.56 394.00 Hon. Jay Kim ...... 3/26 3/27 Hong Kong ...... 3,049.56 394.00 ...... 3,049.56 394.00 Hon. Ed Royce ...... 3/26 3/27 Hong Kong ...... 3,049.56 394.00 ...... 3,049.56 394.00 Hon. Mark Foley ...... 3/26 3/27 Hong Kong ...... 3,049.56 394.00 ...... 3,049.56 394.00 Bill Livingood ...... 3/26 3/27 Hong Kong ...... 3,049.56 394.00 ...... 3,049.56 394.00 Arne Christenson ...... 3/26 3/27 Hong Kong ...... 3,049.56 394.00 ...... 3,049.56 394.00 Gardner Peckham ...... 3/26 3/27 Hong Kong ...... 3,049.56 394.00 ...... 3,049.56 394.00 Rachel Robinson ...... 3/26 3/27 Hong Kong ...... 3,049.56 394.00 ...... 3,049.56 394.00 Ben Cohen ...... 3/26 3/27 Hong Kong ...... 3,049.56 394.00 ...... 3,049.56 394.00 Barry Jackson ...... 3/26 3/27 Hong Kong ...... 3,049.56 394.00 ...... 3,049.56 394.00 Christina Martin ...... 3/26 3/27 Hong Kong ...... 3,049.56 394.00 ...... 3,049.56 394.00 Bob Hathaway ...... 3/26 3/27 Hong Kong ...... 3,049.56 394.00 ...... 3,049.56 394.00 Adm./Dr. John Eisold ...... 3/26 3/27 Hong Kong ...... 3,049.56 394.00 ...... 3,049.56 394.00 Dwight Comedy ...... 3/26 3/27 Hong Kong ...... 3,049.56 394.00 ...... 3,049.56 394.00 Hon. Newt Gingrich ...... 3/27 3/30 China ...... 2,111.40 255.00 ...... 6,334.20 765.00 Hon. John Dingell ...... 3/27 3/30 China ...... 2,111.40 255.00 ...... 6,334.20 765.00 Hon. Bob Livingston ...... 3/27 3/30 China ...... 2,111.40 255.00 ...... 6,334.20 765.00 Hon. Doug Bereuter ...... 3/27 3/30 China ...... 2,111.40 255.00 ...... 6,334.20 765.00 Hon. Chris Cox ...... 3/27 3/30 China ...... 2,111.40 255.00 ...... 6,334.20 765.00 Hon. John Boehner ...... 3/27 3/30 China ...... 2,111.40 255.00 ...... 6,334.20 765.00 Hon. Jeff Jefferson ...... 3/27 3/30 China ...... 2,111.40 255.00 ...... 6,334.20 765.00 Hon. Jennifer Dunn ...... 3/27 3/30 China ...... 2,111.40 255.00 ...... 6,334.20 765.00 Hon. Al Hastings ...... 3/27 3/30 China ...... 2,111.40 255.00 ...... 6,334.20 765.00 Hon. Jay Kim ...... 3/27 3/30 China ...... 2,111.40 255.00 ...... 6,334.20 765.00 Hon. Ed Royce ...... 3/27 3/30 China ...... 2,111.40 255.00 ...... 6,334.20 765.00 Hon. Mark Foley ...... 3/27 3/30 China ...... 2,111.40 255.00 ...... 6,334.20 765.00 Bill Livingood ...... 3/27 3/30 China ...... 2,111.40 255.00 ...... 6,334.20 765.00 Arne Christenson ...... 3/27 3/30 China ...... 2,111.40 255.00 ...... 6,334.20 765.00 Gardner Peckham ...... 3/27 3/30 China ...... 2,111.40 255.00 ...... 6,334.20 765.00 Rachel Robinson ...... 3/27 3/30 China ...... 2,111.40 255.00 ...... 6,334.20 765.00 Ben Cohen ...... 3/27 3/30 China ...... 2,111.40 255.00 ...... 6,334.20 765.00 Barry Jackson ...... 3/27 3/30 China ...... 2,111.40 255.00 ...... 6,334.20 765.00 Christina Martin ...... 3/27 3/30 China ...... 2,111.40 255.00 ...... 6,334.20 765.00 Bob Hathaway ...... 3/27 3/30 China ...... 2,111.40 255.00 ...... 6,334.20 765.00 Adm./Dr. John Eisold ...... 3/27 3/30 China ...... 2,111.40 255.00 ...... 6,334.20 765.00 Dwight Comedy ...... 3/27 3/30 China ...... 2,111.40 255.00 ...... 6,334.20 765.00 Hon. Newt Gingrich ...... 3/30 4/2 Japan ...... 37,376.69 304.00 ...... 112,130 912.00 Hon. John Dingell ...... 3/30 4/2 Japan ...... 37,376.69 304.00 ...... 112,130 912.00 Hon. Bob Livingston ...... 3/30 4/2 Japan ...... 37,376.69 304.00 ...... 112,130 912.00 Hon. Doug Bereuter ...... 3/30 4/2 Japan ...... 37,376.69 304.00 ...... 112,130 912.00 Hon. Chris Cox ...... 3/30 4/2 Japan ...... 37,376.69 304.00 ...... 112,130 912.00 Hon. John Boehner ...... 3/30 4/2 Japan ...... 37,376.69 304.00 ...... 112,130 912.00 Hon. Jeff Jefferson ...... 3/30 4/2 Japan ...... 37,376.69 304.00 ...... 112,130 912.00 Hon. Jennifer Dunn ...... 3/30 4/2 Japan ...... 37,376.69 304.00 ...... 112,130 912.00 Hon. Al Hastings ...... 3/30 4/2 Japan ...... 37,376.69 304.00 ...... 112,130 912.00 Hon. Jay Kim ...... 3/30 4/2 Japan ...... 37,376.69 304.00 ...... 112,130 912.00 Hon. Ed Royce ...... 3/30 4/2 Japan ...... 37,376.69 304.00 ...... 112,130 912.00 Hon. Mark Foley ...... 3/30 4/2 Japan ...... 37,376.69 304.00 ...... 112,130 912.00 Bill Livingood ...... 3/30 4/2 Japan ...... 37,376.69 304.00 ...... 112,130 912.00 Arne Christenson ...... 3/30 4/2 Japan ...... 37,376.69 304.00 ...... 112,130 912.00 Gardner Peckham ...... 3/30 4/2 Japan ...... 37,376.69 304.00 ...... 112,130 912.00 Rachel Robinson ...... 3/30 4/2 Japan ...... 37,376.69 304.00 ...... 112,130 912.00 Ben Cohen ...... 3/30 4/2 Japan ...... 37,376.69 304.00 ...... 112,130 912.00 Barry Jackson ...... 3/30 4/2 Japan ...... 37,376.69 304.00 ...... 112,130 912.00 Christina Martin ...... 3/30 4/2 Japan ...... 37,376.69 304.00 ...... 112,130 912.00 Bob Hathaway ...... 3/30 4/2 Japan ...... 37,376.69 304.00 ...... 112,130 912.00 Adm./Dr. John Eisold ...... 3/30 4/2 Japan ...... 37,376.69 304.00 ...... 112,130 912.00 Dwight Comedy ...... 3/30 4/2 Japan ...... 37,376.69 304.00 ...... 112,130 912.00 Committee Total ...... 6,688.00 ...... 20,064.00 1 Per diem constitutes lodging and meals. 2 If foreign currency is used, enter U.S. dollar equivalent; if U.S. currency is used, enter amount expended. NEWT GINGRICH, May 2, 1997.

REPORT OF EXPENDITURES FOR OFFICIAL FOREIGN TRAVEL, DELEGATION TO RUSSIA, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, EXPENDED BETWEEN MAY 27 AND MAY 31, 1997

Date Per diem 1 Transportation Other purposes Total U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar Name of Member or employee Country Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Arrival Departure currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency 2 currency 2 currency 2 currency 2

Hon. Curt Weldon ...... 5/27 5/31 Russia ...... 1,380.00 ...... 1,380.00 Hon. Lindsey Graham ...... 5/27 5/31 Russia ...... 1,380.00 ...... 1,380.00 H6788 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 3, 1997 REPORT OF EXPENDITURES FOR OFFICIAL FOREIGN TRAVEL, DELEGATION TO RUSSIA, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, EXPENDED BETWEEN MAY 27 AND MAY 31, 1997—Continued

Date Per diem 1 Transportation Other purposes Total U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar Name of Member or employee Country Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Arrival Departure currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency 2 currency 2 currency 2 currency 2

Hon. Roger Wicker ...... 5/27 5/31 Russia ...... 1,380.00 ...... 1,380.00 Hon. Jay Dickey ...... 5/27 5/31 Russia ...... 1,380.00 ...... 1,380.00 Hon. Charles Taylor ...... 5/27 5/31 Russia ...... 1,380.00 ...... 2,560.15 ...... 3,940.15 Hon. Steny Hoyer ...... 5/27 5/30 Russia ...... 1,000.00 ...... 3,460.95 ...... 4,460.95 Hon. Corrine Brown ...... 5/27 5/31 Russia ...... 1,380.00 ...... 1,380.00 Hon. Owen Pickett ...... 5/27 5/31 Russia ...... 1,380.00 ...... 1,380.00 Douglas Ritter ...... 5/27 5/31 Russia ...... 1,380.00 ...... 1,380.00 Cory Alexander ...... 5/27 5/31 Russia ...... 1,380.00 ...... 1,380.00 Marlene Kaufmann ...... 5/27 5/30 Russia ...... 1,000.00 ...... 3,460.95 ...... 4,460.95 David Trachtenberg ...... 5/27 5/31 Russia ...... 1,380.00 ...... 1,380.00 Committee total ...... 15,800.00 ...... 9,482.05 ...... 25,282.05 1 Per diem constitutes lodging and meals. 2 If foreign currency is used, enter U.S. dollar equivalent; if U.S. currency is used, enter amount expended. CURT WELDON, June 22, 1997.

REPORT OF EXPENDITURES FOR OFFICIAL FOREIGN TRAVEL, TRAVEL TO JAPAN AND NORTH KOREA, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, EXPENDED BETWEEN APR. 3, AND APR. 8, 1997

Date Per diem 1 Transportation Other purposes Total U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar Name of Member or employee Country Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Arrival Departure currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency 2 currency 2 currency 2 currency 2

Rick Carne ...... 4/3 4/8 Japan, N. Korea ...... 1,350.00 ...... 4,627.95 ...... 5,977.95 Committee total ...... 1,350.00 ...... 4,627.95 ...... 5,977.95 1 Per diem constitutes lodging and meals. 2 If foreign currency is used, enter U.S. dollar equivalent; if U.S. currency is used, enter amount expended. RICK CARNE, May 1, 1997.

REPORT OF EXPENDITURES FOR OFFICIAL FOREIGN TRAVEL, TRAVEL TO ESTONIA, LATVIA, POLAND AND THE CZECH REPUBLIC, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, EXPENDED BETWEEN MAR. 25 AND APR. 4, 1997

Date Per diem 1 Transportation Other purposes Total U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar Name of Member or employee Country Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Arrival Departure currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency 2 currency 2 currency 2 currency 2

William R. Teator ...... 3/25 3/27 Estonia ...... 612.00 ...... 612.00 ...... 3/27 3/28 Latvia ...... 245.00 ...... 245.00 ...... 3/31 4/1 Poland ...... 1,599.04 526.00 ...... 1,599.04 526.00 ...... 4/2 4/4 Czech Republic ...... 564.00 ...... 564.00 Committee total ...... 1,947.00 ...... 1,947.00 1 Per diem constitutes lodging and meals. 2 If foreign currency is used, enter U.S. dollar equivalent; if U.S. currency is used, enter amount expended. WILLIAM R. TEATOR, April 21, 1997.

REPORT OF EXPENDITURES FOR OFFICIAL FOREIGN TRAVEL, TRAVEL TO BARBADOS, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, EXPENDED BETWEEN MAY 9 AND MAY 11, 1997

Date Per diem 1 Transportation Other purposes Total U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar Name of Member or employee Country Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Arrival Departure currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency 2 currency 2 currency 2 currency 2

Hon. Carlos Romero-Barcelo´ ...... 5/9 5/11 Barbados ...... 1,261.23 ...... 599.05 ...... 1,861.18 Committee total ...... 1,261.23 ...... 599.95 ...... 1,861.18 1 Per diem constitutes lodging and meals. 2 If foreign currency is used, enter U.S. dollar equivalent; if U.S. currency is used, enter amount expended. CARLOS ROMERO-BARCELO´ , June 9, 1997.

REPORT OF EXPENDITURES FOR OFFICIAL FOREIGN TRAVEL, TRAVEL TO ESTONIA, LATVIA, POLAND AND THE CZECH REPUBLIC, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, EXPENDED BETWEEN MAY 13 AND MAY 16, 1997

Date Per diem 1 Transportation Other purposes Total U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar Name of Member or employee Country Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Arrival Departure currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency 2 currency 2 currency 2 currency 2

Gretchen E. DeMar ...... 5/13 5/16 Canada ...... 1,044 3 755.97 ...... 351.90 107.15 150.00 1,251.15 3 905.97 Committee total ...... 755.97 ...... 351.90 ...... 150.00 ...... 1,257.87 1 Per diem constitutes lodging and meals. 2 If foreign currency is used, enter U.S. dollar equivalent; if U.S. currency is used, enter amount expended. 3 U.S. dollars equivalent based on rate of exchange applied by U.S. Consulate per Mr. H.J. Steemers for per diem and registration fee. GRETCHEN E. DEMAR, June 5, 1997.

REPORT OF EXPENDITURES FOR OFFICIAL FOREIGN TRAVEL, DELEGATION TO GERMANY, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, EXPENDED BETWEEN JUNE 26 AND JULY 1, 1997

Date Per diem 1 Transportation Other purposes Total U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar Name of Member or employee Country Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Arrival Departure currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency 2 currency 2 currency 2 currency 2

Hon. Amory Houghton, Jr...... 6/27 7/1 Germany ...... Hon. Donald Payne ...... 6/27 6/29 Germany ...... 4,693.65 ...... 4,693.65 September 3, 1997 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6789 REPORT OF EXPENDITURES FOR OFFICIAL FOREIGN TRAVEL, DELEGATION TO GERMANY, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, EXPENDED BETWEEN JUNE 26 AND JULY 1, 1997—Continued

Date Per diem 1 Transportation Other purposes Total U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar Name of Member or employee Country Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Arrival Departure currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency 2 currency 2 currency 2 currency 2

Hon. Carrie Meek ...... 6/28 7/1 Germany ...... 2,530.05 ...... 2,530.05 Hon. Charles Taylor ...... 6/28 7/3 Germany ...... 2,996.05 ...... 2,996.05 Robert W. Van Wicklin ...... 6/27 7/1 Germany ...... 3,356.05 ...... 3,356.05 Committee total ...... 12,140.08 ...... 12,140.08 1 Per diem constitutes lodging and meals. 2 If foreign currency is used, enter U.S. dollar equivalent; if U.S. currency is used, enter amount expended. AMO HOUGHTON, July 30, 1997.

REPORT OF EXPENDITURES FOR OFFICIAL FOREIGN TRAVEL, DELEGATION TO THE NORTH ATLANTIC ASSEMBLY, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, EXPENDED BETWEEN MAY 24 AND JUNE 1, 1997

Date Per diem 1 Transportation Other purposes Total U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar Name of Member or employee Country Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Arrival Departure currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency 2 currency 2 currency 2 currency 2

Hon. Doug Bereuter ...... 5/24 5/27 Slovenia ...... 844.00 ...... 5/27 5/28 Macedonia ...... 136.00 ...... 5/28 6/1 Luxembourg ...... 972.00 ...... (3) ...... 1,952.00 Hon. Floyd Spence ...... 5/24 5/27 Slovenia ...... 844.00 ...... 5/27 5/28 Macedonia ...... 136.00 ...... 5/28 6/1 Luxembourg ...... 972.00 ...... (3) ...... 1,952.00 Hon. Ralph Regula ...... 5/28 6/1 Luxembourg ...... 972.00 ...... (3) ...... 972.00 Hon. Gerald Solomon ...... 5/24 5/27 Slovenia ...... 844.00 ...... 5/27 5/28 Macedonia ...... 136.00 ...... 5/28 6/1 Luxembourg ...... 972.00 ...... (3) ...... 1,952.00 Hon. Tom Bliley ...... 5/24 5/27 Slovenia ...... 844.00 ...... 5/27 5/28 Macedonia ...... 136.00 ...... 5/28 6/1 Luxembourg ...... 972.00 ...... (3) ...... 1,952.00 Hon. Marge Roukema ...... 5/24 5/27 Slovenia ...... 844.00 ...... 5/27 5/28 Macedonia ...... 136.00 ...... 5/28 6/1 Luxembourg ...... 972.00 ...... (3) ...... 1,952.00 Hon. Herbert Bateman ...... 5/24 5/27 Slovenia ...... 844.00 ...... 5/27 5/28 Macedonia ...... 136.00 ...... 5/28 6/1 Luxembourg ...... 972.00 ...... (3) ...... 1,952.00 Hon. Sherwood Boehlert ...... 5/24 5/27 Slovenia ...... 844.00 ...... 5/27 5/28 Macedonia ...... 136.00 ...... 5/28 6/1 Luxembourg ...... 972.00 ...... (3) ...... 1,952.00 Hon. Joel Hefley ...... 5/24 5/27 Slovenia ...... 844.00 ...... 5/27 5/28 Macedonia ...... 136.00 ...... 5/28 6/1 Luxembourg ...... 972.00 ...... (3) ...... 1,952.00 Hon. Vernon Ehlers ...... 5/24 5/27 Slovenia ...... 844.00 ...... 5/27 5/28 Macedonia ...... 136.00 ...... 5/28 6/1 Luxembourg ...... 972.00 ...... (3) ...... 1,952.00 Hon. Scott McInnis ...... 5/24 5/27 Slovenia ...... 844.00 ...... 5/27 5/28 Macedonia ...... 136.00 ...... 5/28 6/1 Luxembourg ...... 972.00 ...... (3) ...... 1,952.00 Hon. Pat Danner ...... 5/24 5/27 Slovenia ...... 844.00 ...... 5/27 5/28 Macedonia ...... 136.00 ...... 5/28 6/1 Luxembourg ...... 972.00 ...... (3) ...... 1,952.00 John Herzberg ...... 5/24 5/27 Slovenia ...... 844.00 ...... 5/27 5/28 Macedonia ...... 136.00 ...... 5/28 6/1 Luxembourg ...... 972.00 ...... (3) ...... 1,952.00 Jo Weber ...... 5/24 5/27 Slovenia ...... 844.00 ...... 5/27 5/28 Macedonia ...... 136.00 ...... 5/28 6/1 Luxembourg ...... 972.00 ...... (3) ...... 1,952.00 Rick Stafford ...... 5/24 5/27 Slovenia ...... 844.00 ...... 5/27 5/28 Macedonia ...... 136.00 ...... 5/28 6/1 Luxembourg ...... 972.00 ...... (3) ...... 1,952.00 Linda Pedigo ...... 5/24 5/27 Slovenia ...... 844.00 ...... 5/27 5/28 Macedonia ...... 136.00 ...... 5/28 6/1 Luxembourg ...... 972.00 ...... (3) ...... 1,952.00 Martin Sletzinger ...... 5/28 6/1 Luxembourg ...... 972.00 ...... (3) ...... 972.00 Commercial airfare ...... 1,564.00 ...... 1,564.00 Jim Doran ...... 5/28 6/1 Luxembourg ...... 972.00 ...... (3) ...... 972.00 Commercial airfare ...... 2,295.00 ...... 2,295.00 Ronald Lasch ...... 5/28 6/1 Luxembourg ...... 972.00 ...... (3) ...... 972.00 Commercial airfare ...... 2,295.00 ...... 2,295.00 David Goldston ...... 5/28 6/1 Luxembourg ...... 972.00 ...... (3) ...... 972.00 Commercial airfare ...... 2,295.00 ...... 2,295.00 Committee total ...... 34,140.00 ...... 8,449.00 ...... 42,589.00 1 Per diem constitutes lodging and meals. 2 If foreign currency is used, enter U.S. dollar equivalent; if U.S. currency is used, enter amount expended. 3 Military air transportation. DOUG BEREUTER, July 11, 1997.

EXECUTIVE COMMUNICATIONS, 4551. A letter from the Administrator, Ag- 4553. A letter from the Administrator, Ag- ETC. ricultural Marketing Service, transmitting ricultural Marketing Service, transmitting the Service’s final rule—Winter Pears Grown the Service’s final rule—Milk in the Texas Under clause 2 of rule XXIV, execu- in Oregon, Washington, and California; In- Marketing Area; Suspension of Certain Pro- tive communications were taken from creased Assessment Rate [Docket No. FV97– visions of the Order [DA–97–06] received Au- gust 5, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); the Speaker’s table and referred as fol- 927–1IFR] received August 21, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on to the Committee on Agriculture. lows: Agriculture. 4554. A letter from the Administrator, Ag- ricultural Marketing Service, transmitting 4550. A letter from the Administrator, Ag- 4552. A letter from the Administrator, Ag- the Service’s final rule—Reduced Assessment ricultural Marketing Service, transmitting ricultural Marketing Service, transmitting Rates for Specified Marketing Orders [Dock- the Service’s final rule—Removal of U.S. the Service’s final rule—Dried Prunes Pro- et No. FV97–922–2 IFR] received August 5, Grade Standards and Other Selected Regula- duced in California; Increased Assessment 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the tions [Docket Number FV–95–303] received Rate [Docket No. FV97–993–1 IFR] received Committee on Agriculture. August 13, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. August 5, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 4555. A letter from the Administrator, Ag- 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Agri- 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Agri- ricultural Marketing Service, transmitting culture. culture. the Service’s final rule—Irish Potatoes H6790 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 3, 1997 Grown in Modoc and Siskiyou Counties, Cali- Inspection Service, transmitting the Serv- 4576. A letter from the Director, Office of fornia, and in All Counties in Oregon, Except ice’s final rule—Mediterranean Fruit Fly; Regulatory Management and Information, Malheur County; Define Fiscal Period and Additions to the Quarantined Areas [Docket Environmental Protection Agency, transmit- Decrease Assessment Rate [Docket No. No.97–056–4] received August 14, 1997, pursu- ting the Agency’s final rule—Myclobutanil; FV97–947–1 FIR] received August 14, 1997, ant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee Pesticide Tolerances for Emergency Exemp- pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Com- on Agriculture. tions [OPP–300522 FRL–5732–9] (RIN: 2070– mittee on Agriculture. 4567. A letter from the Congressional Re- AB78) received August 6, 1997, pursuant to 5 4556. A letter from the Administrator, Ag- view Coordinator, Animal and Plant Health U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Ag- ricultural Marketing Service, transmitting Inspection Service, transmitting the Serv- riculture. the Service’s final rule—Amendments to the ice’s final rule—Change in Disease Status of 4577. A letter from the Chairman and Chief Perishable Agricultural Commodities Act the Dominican Republic Because of Hog Executive Officer, Farm Credit Administra- [Docket Number FV96–351A] (RIN: 0581–AB48) Cholera [Docket No. 97–084–1] received Au- tion, transmitting the Administration’s final received August 14, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. gust 14, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. rule—Federal Agricultural Mortgage Cor- 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Agri- 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Agri- poration; Receivers and Conservators (RIN: culture. culture. 3052–AB72) received August 12, 1997, pursuant 4557. A letter from the Administrator, Ag- 4568. A letter from the Congressional Re- to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on ricultural Marketing Service, transmitting view Coordinator, Animal and Plant Health Agriculture. the Service’s final rule—Marketing Order Inspection Service, transmitting the Serv- 4578. A letter from the Administrator, Regulating the Handling of Spearmint Oil ice’s final rule—Oriental Fruit Fly; Designa- Farm Service Agency, transmitting the Produced in the Far West; Revision of Ad- tion of Quarantined Area [Docket No. 97–073– Agency’s final rule—1997 Marketing Quotas ministrative Rules and Regulations Govern- 1] received September 2, 1997, pursuant to 5 and Price Support Levels for Fire-Cured ing Issuance of Additional Allotment Base to U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Ag- (type 21), Fire-Cured (types 22–23), Dark Air- New and Existing Producers [Docket No. riculture. Cured (types 35–36), Virginia Sun-Cured (type FV97–985–1 FR] received August 14, 1997, pur- 4569. A letter from the Congressional Re- 37), and Cigar-Filler and Binder (types 42–44 suant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Commit- view Coordinator, Animal and Plant Health and 53–55) Tobaccos (Commodity Credit Cor- tee on Agriculture. Inspection Service, transmitting the Serv- poration) [Workplan Number 96–056] (RIN: 4558. A letter from the Administrator, Ag- ice’s final rule—Change in Disease Status of 0560–AF03) received August 15, 1997, pursuant ricultural Marketing Service, transmitting Italy, Except the Island of Sardinia, Because to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on of African Swine Fever [Docket No. 97–002–2] the Service’s final rule—Almonds Grown in Agriculture. California; Amended Assessment Rate received September 2, 1997, pursuant to 5 4579. A letter from the Administrator, [Docket No. FV97–981–4 FR] received August U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Ag- Farm Service Agency, transmitting the 14, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to riculture. Agency’s final rule—Disaster Reserve Assist- 4570. A letter from the Director, Office of the Committee on Agriculture. ance Program (RIN: 0560–AF11) received Au- Regulatory Management and Information, 4559. A letter from the Administrator, Ag- gust 19, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. Environmental Protection Agency, transmit- ricultural Marketing Service, transmitting 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Agri- ting the Agency’s final rule—Herbicide the Service’s final rule—Fresh Peaches culture. Safener HOE–107892; Pesticide Tolerances for Grown in Georgia; Termination of Marketing 4580. A letter from the Manager, Federal Emergency Exemptions [OPP–300517; FRL– Order No. 918 [Docket No. FV–97–918–1 FR] Crop Insurance Corporation, transmitting 5731–7] (RIN: 2070–AB78) received August 6, received August 19, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. the Corporation’s final rule—Macadamia 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Agri- Tree Crop Insurance Regulations; and Com- Committee on Agriculture. culture. 4571. A letter from the Director, Office of mon Crop Insurance Regulations, Macadamia 4560. A letter from the Administrator, Ag- Regulatory Management and Information, Tree Crop Insurance Provisions [7 CFR Part ricultural Marketing Service, transmitting Environmental Protection Agency, transmit- 456 and 457] received August 8, 1997, pursuant the Service’s final rule—Kiwifruit Grown in ting the Agency’s final rule—Bacillus Cereus to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on California; Revision of Administrative Rules Strain BP01; Exemption from the Require- Agriculture. Pertaining to Delinquent Assessments ment of a Tolerance [OPP–300526; FRL–5735– 4581. A letter from the Manager, Federal [Docket No. FV97–920–1 FR] received August 6] (RIN: 2070–AB78) received August 6, 1997, Crop Insurance Corporation, transmitting 28, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Com- the Corporation’s final rule—General Crop the Committee on Agriculture. mittee on Agriculture. Insurance Regulations, and Common Crop 4561. A letter from the Administrator, Ag- 4572. A letter from the Director, Office of Insurance Regulations; and Peach Crop In- ricultural Marketing Service, transmitting Regulatory Management and Information, surance Provisions [7 CFR Parts 403 and 457] the Service’s final rule—Kiwifruit Grown in Environmental Protection Agency, transmit- received August 7, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. California; Assessment Rate [Docket No. ting the Agency’s final rule—Copper Octano- 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Agri- FV97–920–3 IFR] received August 28, 1997, ate; Tolerance Exemption [OPP–300524; FRL– culture. pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Com- 5734–7] (RIN: 2070–AB78) received August 6, 4582. A letter from the Manager, Federal mittee on Agriculture. 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Crop Insurance Corporation, transmitting 4562. A letter from the Administrator, Ag- Committee on Agriculture. the Corporation’s final rule—Macadamia Nut ricultural Marketing Service, transmitting 4573. A letter from the Director, Office of Crop Insurance Regulations; and Common the Service’s final rule—Fresh Bartlett Regulatory Management and Information, Crop Insurance Regulations, Macadamia Nut Pears Grown in Oregon and Washington; Re- Environmental Protection Agency, transmit- Crop Insurance Provisions [7 CFR Parts 455 duced Assessment Rate [Docket No. FV97– ting the Agency’s final rule—Fludioxonil; and 457] received August 8, 1997, pursuant to 931–2 IFR] received August 26, 1997, pursuant Pesticide Tolerances for Emergency Exemp- 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on tions [OPP–300520; FRL–5732–5] (RIN: 2070– Agriculture. Agriculture. AB78) received August 6, 1997, pursuant to 5 4583. A letter from the Administrator, 4563. A letter from the Administrator, Ag- U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Ag- Rural Utilities Service, transmitting the ricultural Marketing Service, transmitting riculture. Service’s final rule—Accounting Require- the Service’s final rule—Limes Grown in 4574. A letter from the Director, Office of ments for RUSElectric Borrowers (RIN: 0572– Florida and Imported Limes; Change in Reg- Regulatory Management and Information, AB36) received August 5, 1997, pursuant to 5 ulatory Period [Docket No. FV97–911–1A FIR] Environmental Protection Agency, transmit- U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Ag- received August 28, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. ting the Agency’s final rule—Coat Protein of riculture. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Agri- Potato Virus Y and the Genetic Material 4584. A letter from the Acting Executive culture. Necessary for its production; Exemption Director, U.S. Commodity Futures Trading 4564. A letter from the Acting Adminis- from the requirement of a tolerance [OPP– Commission, transmitting the Commission’s trator, Agricultural Research Service, trans- 300531; FRL–5738–4] (RIN: 2070–AB78) received final rule—Securities Representing Invest- mitting the Service’s final rule—National August 13, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. ment of Customer Funds Held in Segregated Arboretum [7 CFR Part 500] received August 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Agri- Accounts by Futures Commission Merchants 28, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to culture. [17 CFR Part 1] received August 5, 1997, pur- the Committee on Agriculture. 4575. A letter from the Director, Office of suant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Commit- 4565. A letter from the Congressional Re- Regulatory Management and Information, tee on Agriculture. view Coordinator, Animal and Plant Health Environmental Protection Agency, transmit- 4585. A communication from the President Inspection Service, transmitting the Serv- ting the Agency’s final rule—Replicase Pro- of the United States, transmitting amend- ice’s final rule—Humane Treatment of Dogs; tein of Potato Leaf Roll Virus and the Ge- ments to FY 1998 appropriations requests Tethering [Docket No. 95–078–2] (RIN: 0579– netic Material Necessary for its production; that would provide resources for the imple- AA74) received August 14, 1997, pursuant to 5 Exemption from the requirement of a toler- mentation of the National Capital Revital- U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Ag- ance [OPP–300530; FRL–5738–3] (RIN: 2070– ization and Self-Government Improvement riculture. AB78) received August 13, 1997, pursuant to 5 Act of 1997, pursuant to 31 U.S.C. 1107; (H. 4566. A letter from the Congressional Re- U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Ag- Doc. No. 105–118); to the Committee on Ap- view Coordinator, Animal and Plant Health riculture. propriations and ordered to be printed. September 3, 1997 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6791 4586. A communication from the President 4598. A letter from the Director, Office of ting the Agency’s final rule—Approval and of the United States, transmitting FY 1998 Management and Budget, transmitting Promulgation of Implementation Plans; Re- budget amendments for the Legislative OMB’s estimate of the amount of change in vision to the Illinois State Implementation Branch, pursuant to 31 U.S.C. 1107; (H. Doc. outlays or receipts, as the case may be, in Plan for Ozone [IL137–1a; FRL–5868–5] re- No. 105–120); to the Committee on Appropria- each fiscal year through fiscal year 2002 re- ceived August 7, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. tions and ordered to be printed. sulting from passage of H.R. 1226, pursuant 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Commerce. 4587. A communication from the President to Public Law 101–508, section 13101(a) (104 4608. A letter from the Director, Office of of the United States, transmitting an Stat. 1388–582); to the Committee on the Regulatory Management and Information, amendment to the FY 1998 appropriations re- Budget. Environmental Protection Agency, transmit- quests for the Department of Commerce, pur- 4599. A letter from the Director, Office of ting the Agency’s final rule—Transportation suant to 31 U.S.C. 1107; (H. Doc. No. 105–121); Management and Budget, transmitting Conformity Rule Amendments: Flexibility to the Committee on Appropriations and or- OMB’s estimate of the amount of change in and Streamlining [FRL–5871–4] (RIN: 2060– dered to be printed. outlays or receipts, as the case may be, in AG16) received August 6, 1997, pursuant to 5 4588. A communication from the President each fiscal year through fiscal year 2002 re- U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on of the United States, transmitting his re- sulting from passage of H.R. 1901, pursuant Commerce. quest to make available appropriations of to Public Law 101–508, section 13101(a) (104 4609. A letter from the Director, Office of $7,642,000 for the Department of the Treasury Stat. 1388–582); to the Committee on the Regulatory Management and Information, from the Treasury Counter-Terrorism Fund, Budget. Environmental Protection Agency, transmit- pursuant to Public Law 104–208; (H. Doc. No. 4600. A letter from the Acting Assistant ting the Agency’s final rule—Control of Air 105–123); to the Committee on Appropriations Secretary for OSHA, Department of Labor, Pollution; Amendments to Emission Re- and ordered to be printed. transmitting the Department’s final rule— quirements Applicable to New Nonroad 4589. A letter from the Assistant Secretary, Longshoring and Marine Terminals (Occupa- Spark Ignition Engines At or Below 19 Kilo- Department of the Navy, transmitting noti- tional Safety and Health Administration) watts and New Marine Spark Ignition En- fication of intent to study a commercial or [Docket No. S–025] (RIN: 1218–AA56) received gines: Provisions for Replacement Engines industrial type function performed by 45 or July 25, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. and the Use of Two Stroke Engines on Cer- more civilian employees for possible 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Education tain Nonhandheld Equipment [FRL–5871–1] outsourcing, pursuant to 10 U.S.C. 2304 nt.; and the Workforce. received August 6, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. to the Committee on National Security. 4601. A letter from the Deputy Executive 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Commerce. 4590. A letter from the Acting Under Sec- Director and Chief Operating Officer, Pen- 4610. A letter from the Director, Office of retary, Department of Defense, transmitting sion Benefit Guaranty Corporation, trans- Regulatory Management and Information, the Secretary’s Selected Acquisition Reports mitting the Corporation’s final rule—Alloca- Environmental Protection Agency, transmit- (SARS) for the quarter ending June 30, 1997, tion of Assets in Single-Employer Plans; In- ting the Agency’s final rule—Approval and pursuant to 10 U.S.C. 2432; to the Committee terest Assumptions for Valuing Benefits [29 Promulgation of Implementation Plans Ten- on National Security. 4591. A letter from the Secretary of De- CFR Part 4044] received August 11, 1997, pur- nessee: Approval of Revisions to the SIP Re- fense, transmitting a report on improvement suant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Commit- garding Emission Standards and Monitoring of pricing policies for use of major range and tee on Education and the Workforce. Requirements for Additional Control Areas 4602. A letter from the General Counsel, test facility installations of the military de- [TN–171–01–9764a; FRL–5863–9] received Au- partments, pursuant to Public Law 103–160, Department of Transportation, transmitting gust 6, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); section 846(a) (107 Stat. 1723); to the Commit- the Department’s final rule—Federal Motor to the Committee on Commerce. 4611. A letter from the Director, Office of tee on National Security. Vehicle Safety Standards; Occupant Crash 4592. A letter from the Director, Adminis- Protection; Occupant Protection in Interior Regulatory Management and Information, tration and Management, Department of De- Impact (National Highway Traffic Safety Environmental Protection Agency, transmit- fense, transmitting the Department’s final Administration) [Docket No. 74–14; Notice ting the Agency’s final rule—Approval and rule—Departmentof Defense Newspapers, 121] (RIN: 2127–AG94) received August 28, Promulgation of Implementation Plans Ten- Magazines and Civilian Enterprise Publica- 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the nessee: Approval of Revisions to Mainte- tions (RIN: 0790–AG37) received August 7, Committee on Commerce. nance Plan for Knox County, Tennessee [TN– 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the 4603. A letter from the Director, Office of 150–01–9711a; FRL–5866–1] received August 6, Committee on National Security. Regulatory Management and Information, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the 4593. A letter from the Director, Defense Environmental Protection Agency, transmit- Committee on Commerce. Procurement, Department of Defense, trans- ting the Agency’s final rule—Toxic Sub- 4612. A letter from the Director, Office of mitting the Department’s final rule—Defense stances Control Act Test Guidelines Regulatory Management and Information, Federal Acquisition Regulation Supplement; [OPPTS–42193; FRL–5719–5] (RIN: 2070–AB76) Environmental Protection Agency, transmit- Single Process Initiative [DFARS Case 97– received August 12, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. ting the Agency’s final rule—Approval and D014] received August 15, 1997, pursuant to 5 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Commerce. Promulgation of State Plans for Designated U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Na- 4604. A letter from the Director, Office of Facilities and Pollutants; States of Iowa, tional Security. Regulatory Management and Information, Kansas, Missouri, and Nebraska [FRL–5868–3] 4594. A letter from the Director, Defense Environmental Protection Agency, transmit- received August 6, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. Procurement, Department of Defense, trans- ting the Agency’s final rule—Approval and 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Commerce. mitting the Department’s final rule—Defense Promulgation of Revisions to Tennessee SIP 4613. A letter from the Director, Office of Federal Acquisition Regulation Supplement; Chapter 1200–3–5 Visible Emissions [TN–142– Regulatory Management and Information, Cost Principles [DFARS Case 95–D714] re- 9727(a); FRL–5872–9] received August 12, 1997, Environmental Protection Agency, transmit- ceived September 2, 1997, pursuant to 5 pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Com- ting the Agency’s final rule—Approval and U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Na- mittee on Commerce. Promulgation of Implementation Plans; tional Security. 4605. A letter from the Director, Office of California State Implementation Plan Revi- 4595. A letter from the Director, Defense Regulatory Management and Information, sion, Bay Area Air Quality Management Dis- Procurement, Department of Defense, trans- Environmental Protection Agency, transmit- trict [CA–179–0045a; FRL–5863–4] received Au- mitting the Department’s final rule—Defense ting the Agency’s final rule—Approval and gust 6, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); Federal Acquisition Regulation Supplement; Promulgation of Implementation Plans; to the Committee on Commerce. Application of Berry Amendment [DFARS State of Missouri [MO–028–1028; FRL–5875–7] 4614. A letter from the Director, Office of Case 96–D333] received September 2, 1997, pur- received August 12, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. Regulatory Management and Information, suant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Commit- 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Commerce. Environmental Protection Agency, transmit- tee on National Security. 4606. A letter from the Director, Office of ting the Agency’s final rule—Approval and 4596. A letter from the Assistant to the Regulatory Management and Information, Promulgation of Air Quality Implementa- Board, Board of Governors of the Federal Re- Environmental Protection Agency, transmit- tion Plans; Maine; (Hancock and Waldo serve System, transmitting the Board’s ting the Agency’s final rule—Approval and Counties Ozone Maintenance Plan Revision— ‘‘Major’’ final rule—Bank Holding Compa- Promulgation of Implementation Plans Ten- Motor Vehicle Emissions Budgets) [ME47–01– nies and Change in Bank Control (Regulation nessee: Approval of Revisions to the Chat- 7002a; A–1–FRL–5867–8] received August 6, Y); Amendments to Restrictions in the tanooga/Hamilton County Portion of the 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Board’s Section 20 Orders [Regulation Y; Tennessee SIP Regarding Prevention of Sig- Committee on Commerce. Docket No.R–0958] received August 28, 1997, nificant Deterioration (PSD), Nitrogen Ox- 4615. A letter from the Director, Office of pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Com- ides, Lead Emissions, Volatile Organic Com- Regulatory Management and Information, mittee on Banking and Financial Services. pounds (VOC), and PM10 Revisions [TN–178– Environmental Protection Agency, transmit- 4597. A letter from the President and 02–9724a; TN–179–01–9723a; FRL–5871–9] re- ting the Agency’s final rule—Approval and Chairman, Export-Import Bank of the United ceived August 7, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. Promulgation of Implementation Plans; States, transmitting a report involving U.S. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Commerce. California State Implementation Plan Revi- exports to Oman, pursuant to 12 U.S.C. 4607. A letter from the Director, Office of sion, Sacramento Metropolitan Air Quality 635(b)(3)(i); to the Committee on Banking Regulatory Management and Information, Management District and Santa Barbara and Financial Services. Environmental Protection Agency, transmit- County Air Pollution Control District [CA– H6792 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 3, 1997 173–0044a; FRL–5867–3] received August 6, Promulgation of Implementation Plans; Rea- South Carolina: Addition of Supplement C to 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the sonably Available Control Technology for the Air Quality Modeling Guidelines [SC–30– Committee on Commerce. Volatile Organic Compounds for the State of 1–9645a: FRL–5877–1] received August 15, 1997, 4616. A letter from the Director, Office of New Jersey [Region II Docket No. NJ17–2– pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Com- Regulatory Management and Information, 169, FRL–5868–4] received August 6, 1997, pur- mittee on Commerce. Environmental Protection Agency, transmit- suant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Commit- 4634. A letter from the Director, Office of ting the Agency’s final rule—Approval and tee on Commerce. Regulatory Management and Information, Promulgation of Revisions to North Carolina 4626. A letter from the Director, Office of Environmental Protection Agency, transmit- SIP Involving Open Burning and Other Mis- Regulatory Management and Information, ting the Agency’s final rule—Approval and cellaneous Rules [NC–82–9728(a); FRL–5863–6] Environmental Protection Agency, transmit- Promulgation of Implementation Plans; received August 6, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. ting the Agency’s final rule—Approval and California State Implementation Plan Revi- 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Commerce. Promulgation of Air Quality Implementa- sion, San Joaquin Valley Unified Air Pollu- 4617. A letter from the Director, Office of tion Plans; Maryland; Control of Volatile Or- tion Control District [CA 157–0046a; FRL– Regulatory Management and Information, ganic Compound Emissions from Degreasing 5881–1] received August 20, 1997, pursuant to Environmental Protection Agency, transmit- Operations and Vehicle Refinishing, and Def- 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on ting the Agency’s final rule—New York: inition of Motor Vehicle [MD040–4014a and Commerce. Final Authorization of State Hazardous MD047–4014a; FRL–5867–5] received August 6, 4635. A letter from the Director, Office of Waste Program Revisions [FRL–5870–8] re- 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Regulatory Management and Information, ceived August 6, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. Committee on Commerce. Environmental Protection Agency, transmit- 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Commerce. 4627. A letter from the Director, Office of ting the Agency’s final rule—Approval and 4618. A letter from the Director, Office of Regulatory Management and Information, Promulgation of Implementation Plans; Regulatory Management and Information, Environmental Protection Agency, transmit- California State Implementation Plan Revi- Environmental Protection Agency, transmit- ting the Agency’s final rule—National Emis- sion, Bay Area Air Quality Management Dis- ting the Agency’s final rule—Approval and sion Standards for Chromium Emissions trict [CA 034–0049a FRL–5880–4] received Au- Promulgation of Air Quality Implementa- From Hard and Decorative Chromium Elec- gust 20, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. tion Plans; State of Maryland; Enhanced troplating and Chromium Anodizing Tanks 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Commerce. Motor Vehicle Inspection and Maintenance [AD–FRL–5872–7] received August 6, 1997, pur- 4636. A letter from the AMD—Performance Program [MD037–3015; FRL–5864–8] received suant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Commit- Evaluation and Records Management, Fed- August 6, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. tee on Commerce. eral Communications Commission, transmit- 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Commerce. 4628. A letter from the Director, Office of ting the Commission’s final rule—Amend- 4619. A letter from the Director, Office of Regulatory Management and Information, ment of Section 73.202(b), Table of Allot- Regulatory Management and Information, Environmental Protection Agency, transmit- ments, FM Broadcast Stations (Hobbs, Environmental Protection Agency, transmit- ting the Agency’s final rule—Clean Air Act Tatum and Jal, New Mexico) [MM Docket ting the Agency’s final rule—Modification of Approval and Promulgation of State Imple- No. 96–77, RM–8780, RM–8918] received August Significant New Use Rules for Certain Sub- mentation Plans (SIP); Texas; Prevention of 19, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to stances [OPPTS–50626A; FRL–5735–4] (RIN: Significant Deterioration (PSD) Increments the Committee on Commerce. 2070–AB27) received August 6, 1997, pursuant for particulate matter less than 10 microns 4637. A letter from the AMD—Performance to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on in diameter (PM–10); Designation of Areas Evaluation and Records Management, Fed- Commerce. for Air Quality Planning Purposes [TX60–1– eral Communications Commission, transmit- 4620. A letter from the Director, Office of 7269; FRL–5870–1] received August 13, 1997, ting the Commission’s final rule—Amend- Regulatory Management and Information, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Com- ment of Section 73.202(b), Table of Allot- Environmental Protection Agency, transmit- mittee on Commerce. ments, FM Broadcast Stations (Idalou, ting the Agency’s final rule—Approval and 4629. A letter from the Director, Office of Texas) [MM Docket No. 97–69, RM–9007] re- Promulgation of Implementation Plans; Ari- Regulatory Management and Information, ceived August 19, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. zona—Maricopa County PM–10 Nonattain- Environmental Protection Agency, transmit- 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Commerce. ment Area [AZ–69–0012; FRL–5867–9] received ting the Agency’s final rule—Approval and 4638. A letter from the AMD—Performance August 6, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. Promulgation of Implementation Plans; Evaluation and Records Management, Fed- 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Commerce. California State Implementation Plan Revi- eral Communications Commission, transmit- 4621. A letter from the Director, Office of sion, San Joaquin Valley Unified Air Pollu- ting the Commission’s final rule—Amend- Regulatory Management and Information, tion Control District [CA–128–0043; FRL–5875– ment of Section 73.202(b), Table of Allot- Environmental Protection Agency, transmit- 9] received August 13, 1997, pursuant to 5 ments, FM Broadcast Stations (Clayton and ting the Agency’s final rule—Outer Con- U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Jena, Louisiana) [MM Docket No. 97–59, RM– tinental Shelf Air Regulations Consistency Commerce. 8976] received August 19, 1997, pursuant to 5 Update for Alaska [Alaska 001; FRL–5847–7] 4630. A letter from the Director, Office of U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on received August 6, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. Regulatory Management and Information, Commerce. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Commerce. Environmental Protection Agency, transmit- 4639. A letter from the AMD—Performance 4622. A letter from the Director, Office of ting the Agency’s final rule—Approval and Evaluation and Records Management, Fed- Regulatory Management and Information, Promulgation of State Air Quality Plans for eral Communications Commission, transmit- Environmental Protection Agency, transmit- Designated Facilities and Pollutants, Louisi- ting the Commission’s final rule—The Com- ting the Agency’s final rule—Approval and ana; Control of Landfill Gas Emissions from mission’s Forfeiture Policy Statement and Promulgation of Air Quality Implementa- Existing Municipal Solid Waste Landfills Amendment of Section 1.80 of the Rules to tion Plans; State of Georgia; Enhanced [LA–39–1–7332a; FRL–5876–3] received August Incorporate the Forfeiture Guidelines [CI Motor Vehicle Inspection and Maintenance 13, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to Docket No. 95–6] received August 19, 1997, Program [GA–34–2–9716; FRL–5865–9] received the Committee on Commerce. pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Com- August 6, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 4631. A letter from the Director, Office of mittee on Commerce. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Commerce. Regulatory Management and Information, 4640. A letter from the AMD—Performance 4623. A letter from the Director, Office of Environmental Protection Agency, transmit- Evaluation and Records Management, Fed- Regulatory Management and Information, ting the Agency’s final rule—Approval and eral Communications Commission, transmit- Environmental Protection Agency, transmit- Promulgation of Air Quality Implementa- ting the Commission’s final rule—Amend- ting the Agency’s final rule—Approval and tion Plans; Pennsylvania; Approval of VOC ment of Parts 2, 15, and 97 of the Commis- Promulgation of Air Quality Implementa- and NOX RACT Determinations for Individ- sion’s Rules To Permit Use of Radio Fre- tion Plans; District of Columbia, New Source ual Sources [SIPTRAX No. PA–4051a; FRL– quencies Above 40 GHz for New Radio Appli- Review Program [DC032–2006; FRL–5864–4] re- 5865–8] received August 15, 1997, pursuant to cations; International Harmonization of Fre- ceived August 6, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on quency Bands Above 40 GHz; Petition of Sky 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Commerce. Commerce. Station International, Inc., for Amendment 4624. A letter from the Director, Office of 4632. A letter from the Director, Office of of the Commission’s Rules To Establish Re- Regulatory Management and Information, Regulatory Management and Information, quirements for a Global Stratospheric Tele- Environmental Protection Agency, transmit- Environmental Protection Agency, transmit- communications Service in the 47.2–47.5 GHz ting the Agency’s final rule—Approval and ting the Agency’s final rule—Approval and and 47.9–48.2 GHz Frequency Bands [ET Promulgation of Implementation Plans: Promulgation of Implementation Plans; Docket No. 94–124, RM–8308; RM–8784] re- Washington [WA61–7136, WA64–7139a; FRL– State of Missouri [MO–029–1029; FRL–5875–4] ceived August 14, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 5869–8] received August 6, 1997, pursuant to 5 received August 15, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Commerce. U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Commerce. 4641. A letter from the AMD—Performance Commerce. 4633. A letter from the Director, Office of Evaluation and Records Management, Fed- 4625. A letter from the Director, Office of Regulatory Management and Information, eral Communications Commission, transmit- Regulatory Management and Information, Environmental Protection Agency, transmit- ting the Commission’s final rule—Amend- Environmental Protection Agency, transmit- ting the Agency’s final rule—Approval and ment of Part 90 of the Commission’s Rules ting the Agency’s final rule—Approval and Promulgation of State Implementation Plan, To Provide for the Use of the 220–222 MHz September 3, 1997 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6793 Band by the Private Land Mobile Radio 4651. A letter from the Director, Regula- Disarmament Agency’s (ACDA) 1996 Annual Service [PR Docket No. 89–552] received Au- tions Policy Management Staff, Office of Report, pursuant to 22 U.S.C. 2590; to the gust 29, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. Policy, Food and Drug Administration, Committee on International Relations. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Commerce. transmitting the Administration’s final 4662. A communication from the President 4642. A letter from the AMD—Performance rule—Food and Cosmetic Labeling; Revoca- of the United States, transmitting the 1996 Evaluation and Records Management, Fed- tion of Certain Regulations [Docket No. 96N– Annual Report of the United States Arms eral Communications Commission, transmit- 0174] (RIN: 0910–AA69) received August 15, Control and Disarmament Agency (ACDA), ting the Commission’s final rule—Amend- 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the pursuant to 22 U.S.C. 2590; to the Committee ment of Section 73.202(b), Table of Allot- Committee on Commerce. on International Relations. ments, FM Broadcast Stations (Shawsville, 4652. A letter from the Director, Office of 4663. A communication from the President Virginia) [MM Docket No. 97–103, RM–9030] Congressional Affairs, Nuclear Regulatory of the United States, transmitting an alter- received August 29, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. Commission, transmitting two final rules: native plan for Federal civilian employee 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Commerce. ‘‘Statement of Priciples and Policy for the pay adjustments, to take effect in January 4643. A letter from the AMD—Performance Agreement State Program,’’ and ‘‘Policy 1998, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 5305(c)(1); (H. Doc. Evaluation and Records Management, Fed- Statement On Adequacy and Compatibility No. 105—122); to the Committee on Govern- eral Communications Commission, transmit- of Agreement State Programs’’ received Sep- ment Reform and Oversight and ordered to ting the Commission’s final rule—Amend- tember 2, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. be printed. ment of Section 73.202(b), Table of Allot- 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Commerce. 4664. A letter from the Director, Bureau of ments, FM Broadcast Stations (Mansura, 4653. A letter from the Secretary of Health the Census, transmitting the Bureau’s final Louisiana) [MM Docket No. 97–110, RM–9045] and Human Services, transmitting the De- rule—Census Designated Place (CDP) Pro- received August 29, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. partment’s final rule—Human Tissue In- gram for Census 2000 [Docket No. 970728183– 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Commerce. tended for Transplantation (Food and Drug 7183–01] received August 19, 1997, pursuant to 4644. A letter from the AMD—Performance Administration) [Docket No. 93N–0453] (RIN: 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Evaluation and Records Management, Fed- 0910–AA40) received August 14, 1997, pursuant Government Reform and Oversight. eral Communications Commission, transmit- to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on 4665. A letter from the Executive Director, ting the Commission’s final rule—Amend- Commerce. Committee for Purchase from People Who ment of Section 73.202(b), Table of Allot- 4654. A letter from the Director, Defense Are Blind or Severely Disabled, transmitting ments, FM Broadcast Stations (Cloudcroft, Security Assistance Agency, transmitting the Committee’s final rule—Additions to the New Mexico) [MM Docket No. 96–257, RM– the listing of all outstanding Letters of Offer Procurement List [97–015] received August 8966] received August 29, 1997, pursuant to 5 to sell any major defense equipment for $1 19, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on million or more; the listing of all Letters of the Committee on Government Reform and Commerce. Offer that were accepted, as of June 30, 1997, Oversight. 4645. A letter from the AMD—Performance pursuant to 22 U.S.C. 2776(a); to the Commit- 4666. A letter from the Director of Benefits, Evaluation and Records Management, Fed- tee on International Relations. Farm Credit Bank of Texas, transmitting the eral Communications Commission, transmit- 4655. A letter from the Assistant Secretary annual report for the Farm Credit Banks of ting the Commission’s final rule—Amend- for Legislative Affairs, Department of State, Texas Thrift Plus Plan for the Year ended ment of Section 73.202(b), Table of Allot- transmitting a report on chemical and bio- December 31, 1996, pursuant to 31 U.S.C. ments, FM Broadcast Stations (Mount logical weapons proliferation control efforts 9503(a)(1)(B); to the Committee on Govern- Horeb, Mazomanie and Dodgeville, Wiscon- for the period of February 1, 1996 to January ment Reform and Oversight. sin) [MM Docket No. 97–10, RM–8984, RM– 31, 1997, pursuant to Public Law 102—182, sec- 4667. A letter from the Deputy Associate 9033] received August 29, 1997, pursuant to 5 tion 308(a) (105 Stat. 1257); to the Committee Administrator for Acquisition Policy, Gen- U.S.C.801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Com- on International Relations. eral Services Administration, transmitting merce. 4656. A letter from the Assistant Secretary the Administration’s final rule—General 4646. A letter from the AMD—Performance for Legislative Affairs, Department of State, Services Administration Acquisition Regula- Evaluation and Records Management, Fed- transmitting a report on proliferation of tion; Acquisition of Commercial Items [APD eral Communications Commission, transmit- missiles and essential components of nu- 2800.12A, CHGE 76] (RIN: 3090–AF86) received ting the Commission’s final rule—Amend- clear, biological, and chemical weapons, pur- August 19, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. ment of Section 73.202(b), Table of Allot- suant to 22 U.S.C. 2751 nt.; to the Committee 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Govern- ments, FM Broadcast Stations (St. Marks on International Relations. ment Reform and Oversight. and Woodville, Florida) [MM Docket No. 96– 4657. A letter from the Assistant Secretary 4668. A letter from the Director, Office of 142, RM–8829, RM–8873] received August 29, for Legislative Affairs, Department of State, Personnel Management, transmitting the Of- 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the transmitting the Secretary’s determination fice’s final rule—Supplemental Standards of Committee on Commerce. and certification regarding government ac- Ethical Conduct for Employees of the Office 4647. A letter from the AMD—Performance tions to terminate chemical weapons pro- of Personnel Management (RIN: 3206–AG Evaluation and Records Management, Fed- liferation activities of foreign persons, pur- 87,3209–AA15) received August 13, 1997, pursu- eral Communications Commission, transmit- suant to 50 U.S.C. app. 2410c(b)(2); to the ant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee ting the Commission’s final rule—Implemen- Committee on International Relations. on Government Reform and Oversight. tation of Section 254(k) of the Communica- 4658. A communication from the President 4669. A letter from the Chairman, Railroad tions Act of 1934, as Amended [FCC 97–163] of the United States, transmitting a report Retirement Board, transmitting the semi- received August 26, 1997, pursuant to 5 on additional measures to confirm that the annual report on activities of the Office of U.S.C.801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Com- embargo on Iran prohibits all trade and in- Inspector General for the period October 1, merce. vestment activities by United States per- 1996, through March 31, 1997, pursuant to 5 4648. A letter from the Secretary, Federal sons, wherever located, and to consolidate in U.S.C. app. (Insp. Gen. Act) section 5(b); to Trade Commission, transmitting the Com- one order the various prohibitions previously the Committee on Government Reform and mission’s final rule—Correction to Ranges of imposed to deal with the national emergency Oversight. Comparability for Clothes Washers (RIN: declared on March 15, 1995, pursuant to 50 4670. A letter from the Secretary of Labor, 3084–AA26) received August 6, 1997, pursuant U.S.C. 1703(c); (H. Doc. No. 105—117); to the transmitting a report of activities under the to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Committee on International Relations and Freedom of Information Act for the calendar Commerce. ordered to be printed. year 1996, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 552(d); to the 4649. A letter from the Director, Regula- 4659. A communication from the President Committee on Government Reform and tions Policy Management Staff, Office of of the United States, transmitting notifica- Oversight. Policy, Food and Drug Administration, tion that the emergency regarding export 4671. A letter from the Assistant Secretary, transmitting the Administration’s final control regulations is to continue in effect Land and Minerals Management, Depart- rule—Indirect Food Additives: Adjuvants, beyond August 19, 1997, pursuant to 50 U.S.C. ment of the Interior, transmitting the De- Production Aids, and Sanitizers [Docket No. 1622(d); (H. Doc. No. 105—119); to the Commit- partment’s final rule—Delegation of Royalty 95F–0170] August 5, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. tee on International Relations and ordered Management Functions to States (Minerals 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Commerce. to be printed. Management Service) (RIN: 1010–AC25) re- 4650. A letter from the Director, Regula- 4660. A letter from the Assistant Legal Ad- ceived July 26, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. tions Policy Management Staff, Office of viser for Treaty Affairs, Department of 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Resources. Policy, Food and Drug Administration, State, transmitting copies of international 4672. A letter from the Acting Assistant transmitting the Administration’s final agreements, other than treaties, entered into Secretary for Fish and Wildlife and Parks, rule—Current Good Manufacturing Practice by the United States, pursuant to 1 U.S.C. Department of the Interior, transmitting the in Manufacturing, Processing, Packing, or 112b(a); to the Committee on International Department’s final rule—Migratory Bird Holding of Drugs; Revision of Certain Label- Relations. Hunting; Temporary Conditional Approval of ing Controls; Partial Extension of Compli- 4661. A letter from the Director, Arms Con- Tungsten-Iron Shot as Nontoxic for the 1997– ance Date [Docket No. 88N–0320] received Au- trol and Disarmament Agency, transmitting 98 Season (RIN: 1018–AE09) received August gust 4, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); the Agency’s classified Executive Summary 11,1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to to the Committeeon Commerce. and Annexes to the U.S. Arms Control and the Committee on Resources. H6794 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 3, 1997 4673. A letter from the Acting Assistant Off West Coast States and in the Western Pa- 4691. A letter from the Assistant Adminis- Secretary for Fish and Wildlifeand Parks, cific States; West Coast Salmon Fisheries; trator for Fisheries, National Oceanic and Department of the Interior, transmitting the Inseason Adjustment from the Queets River Atmospheric Administration, transmitting Department’s final rule—Migratory Bird to Leadbetter Point, WA [Docket No. the Administration’s final rule—Fisheries Hunting; Final Framework for Early-Season 970429101–7101–01; I.D. 070297B] received Au- Off West Coast States and in the Western Pa- Migratory Bird Hunting Regulations (RIN: gust 13, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. cific; Northern Anchovy Fishery; Quotas for 1018–AE14) received August 15, 1997, pursuant 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Resources. the 1997–98 Fishing Year [Docket No. to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on 4683. A letter from the Acting Assistant 970813196–7196–01; I.D. 073197A] received Au- Resources. Administrator for Fisheries, National Oce- gust 28, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 4674. A letter from the Assistant Secretary anic and Atmospheric Administration, trans- 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Resources. for Indian Affairs, Department of the Inte- mitting the Administration’s final rule— 4692. A letter from the Acting Director, Of- rior, transmitting the Department’s final Fisheries off West Coast States and in the fice of Sustainable Fisheries, National Oce- rule—Adult Education Program (Bureau of Western Pacific; Pacific Coast Groundfish anic and Atmospheric Administration, trans- Indian Affairs) (RIN: 1076–AA15) received Au- Fishery; Amendment 9 [Docket No. 970311053– mitting the Administration’s final rule— gust 14, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 7139–02; I.D. 020397B] (RIN: 0648–AJ23) re- Fisheries Off West Coast States and in the 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Resources. ceived August 4, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. Western Pacific; Pacific Coast Groundfish 4675. A letter from the Assistant Secretary, 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Resources. Fishery; End of the Primary Seasonand Re- Land and Minerals Management, Depart- 4684. A letter from the Director, National sumption of Trip Limits for the Shore-based ment of the Interior, transmitting the De- Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, Whiting Sector [Docket No. 961227373–6373–01; partment’s final rule—Logical Mining Units transmitting the Administration’s final I.D. 082097C] received August 21, 1997, pursu- in General; LMU Application Procedures; rule—Taking of Marine Mammals Incidental ant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee LMU Approval Criteria; LMU Diligence; and to Commercial Fishing Operations; Atlantic on Resources. Administration of LMU Operations [WO–320– Large Whale Take Reduction Plan Regula- 4693. A letter from the Director, Office of 1320–02–24–1A] (RIN: 1004–AD12) received Au- tions [Docket No. 970129015–7170–04; I.D. Surface Mining Reclamation and Enforce- gust 19, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 031997B] (RIN: 0648–AI84) received August 5, ment, transmitting the Office’s final rule— 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Resources. 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C.801(a)(1)(A); to the Indiana Regulatory Program [SPATS No. 4676. A letter from the Acting Deputy As- Committee on Resources. IN–136–FOR; State Program Amendment No. sistant Secretary for Fish and Wildlife and 4685. A letter from the Deputy Assistant 95–4] received August 19, 1997, pursuant to 5 Parks, Department of the Interior, transmit- Administrator for Fisheries, National Oce- U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Re- ting the Department’s final rule—St. Croix anic and Atmospheric Administration, trans- sources. National Scenic Riverway, Boating Oper- mitting the Administration’s final rule— 4694. A letter from the Director, Office of ations (RIN: 1024–AC46) received August 14, Western Pacific Crustacean Fisheries; Surface Mining Reclamation and Enforce- 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Amendment 9; OMB Control Numbers [Dock- ment, transmitting the Office’s final rule— Committee on Resources. et No. 960401094–6183–02; I.D. 022296D] (RIN: Indiana Regulatory Program [SPATS No. 4677. A letter from the Acting Assistant 0648–AI32) received August 5, 1997, pursuant IN–138–FOR; State Program Amendment No. Secretary for Fish and Wildlife and Parks, to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on 95–3 II] received August 19, 1997, pursuant to Department of the Interior, transmitting the Resources. 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Department’s ’’Major’’ final rule—Migratory 4686. A letter from the Acting Director, Of- Resources. 4695. A letter from the Director, Office of Bird Hunting; Migratory Bird Hunting Regu- fice of Sustainable Fisheries, National Oce- Surface Mining Reclamation and Enforce- lations on Certain Federal Indian Reserva- anic and Atmospheric Administration, trans- ment, transmitting the Office’s final rule— tions and Ceded Lands for the 1997–98 Early mitting the Administration’s final rule— North Dakota Regulatory Program [ND–036– Season (RIN: 1018–AE14) received August 27, Fisheries of the Caribbean, Gulf of Mexico, FOR, Amendment No. XXIV] received Au- 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the and South Atlantic; Coastal Migratory Pe- gust 19, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. Committee on Resources. lagic Resources of the Gulf of Mexico and 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Resources. 4678. A letter from the Acting Assistant South Atlantic; Closure [Docket No. 4696. A letter from the Director, Office of Secretary for Fish and Wildlife and Parks, 961204340–7087–02; I.D. 073097D] received Au- Surface Mining Reclamation and Enforce- Department of the Interior, transmitting the gust 8, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); ment, transmitting the Office’s final rule— Department’s ‘‘Major’’ final rule—Migratory to the Committee on Resources. Coal Moisture (RIN:1029–AB78) received Au- 4687. A letter from the Director, Office of Bird Hunting; Early Seasons and Bag and gust 25, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. Possession Limits for Certain Migratory Sustainable Fisheries, National Oceanic and 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Resources. Game Birds in the Contiguous United States, Atmospheric Administration, transmitting 4697. A letter from the Director, Office of Alaska, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, and the Virgin the Administration’s final rule—Fisheries of Surface Mining Reclamation and Enforce- Islands (RIN: 1018–AE14) received August 26, the Exclusive Economic Zone Off Alaska; ment, transmitting the Office’s final rule— 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Scallop Fishery; Shelikof District of Reg- Kentucky Regulatory Program [KY–211– Committee onResources. istration Area K [Docket No. 970613138–7138– FOR] received September 2, 1997, pursuant to 4679. A letter from the Acting Director, 01; I.D. 080797B] received August 15, 1997, pur- 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Fish and Wildlife Service, transmitting the suant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Commit- Resources. Service’s final rule—Endangered and Threat- tee on Resources. 4698. A letter from the Assistant Secretary ened Wildlife and Plants; Determination of 4688. A letter from the Director, Office of for Pension and Welfare Benefits, Depart- Endangered Status for Three Plants from the Sustainable Fisheries, National Oceanic and ment of Labor, transmitting the Depart- Channel Islands of Southern California (RIN: Atmospheric Administration, transmitting ment’s final rule—Final Rule Relating to Ad- 1018–AD37) received August 14, 1997, pursuant the Administration’s final rule—Fisheries of justment of Civil Monetary Penalties (RIN: to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on the Economic Exclusive Zone Off Alaska; 1210–0056) received August 4, 1997, pursuant Resources. Shallow-water Species Fishery by Vessels to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committeeon 4680. A letter from the Acting Director, Of- using Trawl Gear in the Gulf of Alaska the Judiciary. fice of Sustainable Fisheries, National Oce- [Docket No. 961126334–7025–02; I.D. 080897B] 4699. A letter from the Acting Assistant anic and Atmospheric Administration, trans- received August 15, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. Secretary, Department of the Army, trans- mitting the Administration’s final rule—Pa- 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Resources. mitting a report on the Clifton, Arizona cific Halibut Fisheries; Area 2A Commercial 4689. A letter from the Director, Office of Local Flood Protection Project; to the Com- Fishery [Docket No. 961217359–7050–02; I.D. Sustainable Fisheries, National Oceanic and mittee on Transportation and Infrastruc- 080597A] received August 13, 1997, pursuant to Atmospheric Administration, transmitting ture. 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on the Administration’s final rule—Fisheries of 4700. A letter from the Acting Assistant Resources. the Exclusive Economic Zone Off Alaska; Secretary, Department of the Army, trans- 4681. A letter from the Acting Assistant Scallop Fishery; Closure in Registration mitting a report on the Federal navigation Administrator for Fisheries, National Oce- Area Q [Docket No. 970613138–7138–01; I.D. project at Santa Barbara Harbor, California; anic and Atmospheric Administration, trans- 081397A] received August 19, 1997, pursuant to to the Committee on Transportation and In- mitting the Administration’s final rule— 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on frastructure. Fisheries of the Northeastern United States; Resources. 4701. A letter from the Assistant Secretary, Framework 9 to the Atlantic Sea Scallop 4690. A letter from the Director, National Civil Works, Department of the Army, trans- Fishery Management Plan [Docket No. Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, mitting volume II of the annual report on 970508108–7108–01; I.D. 022597B] (RIN: 0648– transmitting the Administration’s final civil works activities for fiscal year 1995; to AJ62) received August 13, 1997, pursuant to 5 rule—Endangered and Threatened Species: the Committee on Transportation and Infra- U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Re- Listing of Several Evolutionary Significant structure. sources. Units (ESUs) of West Coast Steelhead [Dock- 4702. A letter from the General Counsel, 4682. A letter from the Director, Office of et No. 960730210–7193–02; I.D. 050294D] (RIN: Department of Transportation, transmitting Sustainable Fisheries, National Oceanic and 0648–XX65) received August 26, 1997, pursuant the Department’s final rule—Small Rail- Atmospheric Administration, transmitting to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on roads; Policy Statement on Enforcement the Administration’s final rule—Fisheries Resources. Program (Federal Railroad Administration) September 3, 1997 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6795 [FRA Docket No. SBR97–1, Notice 1] (RIN: tration) [Docket No. 28982; Amdt. No. 1811] Class E Airspace; Carlisle, AR (Federal Avia- 2130–AB15) received August 8, 1997, pursuant (RIN: 2120–AA65) received August 4, 1997, pur- tion Administration) [Airspace Docket No. to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on suant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Commit- 97–ASW–03] (RIN: 2120–AA66) received August Transportation and Infrastructure. tee on Transportation and Infrastructure. 28, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to 4703. A letter from the General Counsel, 4712. A letter from the General Counsel, the Committee on Transportation and Infra- Department of Transportation, transmitting Department of Transportation, transmitting structure. the Department’s final rule—Passenger Ori- the Department’s final rule—Standard In- 4722. A letter from the General Counsel, gin-Destination Survey Reports [Docket No. strument Approach Procedures; Miscellane- Department of Transportation, transmitting OST–95–744] (RIN: 2139–AA04) received Au- ous Amendments (Federal Aviation Adminis- the Department’s final rule—Revision of gust 14, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. tration) [Docket No. 28981; Amdt. No. 1810] Class E Airspace; Alice, TX (Federal Avia- 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Transpor- (RIN: 2120–AA65) received August 4, 1997, pur- tion Administration) [Airspace Docket No. tation and Infrastructure. suant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Commit- 97–ASW–05] (RIN: 2120–AA66) received August 4704. A letter from the General Counsel, tee on Transportation and Infrastructure. 28, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to Department of Transportation, transmitting 4713. A letter from the General Counsel, the Committee on Transportation and Infra- the Department’s final rule—Airworthiness Department of Transportation, transmitting structure. Directives; Fokker Model F28 Mark 0100 Se- the Department’s final rule—Standard In- 4723. A letter from the General Counsel, ries Airplanes (Federal Aviation Administra- strument Approach Procedures; Miscellane- Department of Transportation, transmitting tion) [Docket No. 97–NM–149–AD; Amdt. 39– ous Amendments (Federal Aviation Adminis- the Department’s final rule—Revision of 10100; AD 97–16–08] (RIN: 2120–AA64) received tration) [Docket No. 28983; Amdt. No. 1812] Class E Airspace; Ponca City, OK (Federal August 11, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. (RIN: 2120–AA65) received August 4, 1997, pur- Aviation Administration) [Airspace Docket 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Transpor- suant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Commit- No. 97–ASW–06] (RIN: 2120–AA66) received tation and Infrastructure. tee on Transportation and Infrastructure. August 28, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 4705. A letter from the General Counsel, 4714. A letter from the General Counsel, 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Transpor- Department of Transportation, transmitting Department of Transportation, transmitting tation and Infrastructure. the Department’s final rule—Commercial the Department’s final rule—Alteration of 4724. A letter from the General Counsel, Passenger-Carrying Operations in Single-En- Jet Route (Federal Aviation Administration) Department of Transportation, transmitting gine Aircraft under Instrument Flight Rules [Airspace Docket No. 94–ASW–8] (RIN: 2120– the Department’s final rule—Revision of (Federal Aviation Administration) [Docket AA66) received August 4, 1997, pursuant to 5 Class E Airspace; Athens, TX (Federal Avia- No. 28743; Amdt. No. 135–70] (RIN: 2120–AG22) U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committeeon tion Administration) [Airspace Docket No. received August 11, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. Transportation and Infrastructure. 97–ASW–07] (RIN: 2120–AA66) received August 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Transpor- 4715. A letter from the General Counsel, 28, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to tation and Infrastructure. Department of Transportation, transmitting the Committee on Transportation and Infra- 4706. A letter from the General Counsel, the Department’s final rule—Special Local structure. Department of Transportation, transmitting Regulations for Marine Events; Assateague 4725. A letter from the General Counsel, the Department’s final rule—Airworthiness Channel, Chincoteague, Virginia (Coast Department of Transportation, transmitting Directives; Pratt & Whitney PW2000 Series Guard) [CGD05–97–012] (RIN: 2115–AE46) re- the Department’s final rule—Revision of Turbofan Engines (Federal Aviation Admin- ceived August 4, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. Class E Airspace; Altus, OK (Federal Avia- istration) [Docket No. 97–ANE–25–AD; Amdt. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Transpor- tion Administration) [Airspace Docket No. 39–10094, AD 97–11–51 R1] (RIN: 2120–AA64) re- tation and Infrastructure. 97–ASW–09] (RIN: 2120–AA66) received August ceived August 11, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 4716. A letter from the General Counsel, 28, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Transpor- Department of Transportation, transmitting the Committee on Transportation and Infra- tation and Infrastructure. the Department’s final rule—Security Zone; structure. 4707. A letter from the General Counsel, Port Canaveral, FL (Coast Guard) [COTP 4726. A letter from the General Counsel, Department of Transportation, transmitting JACKSONVILLE 97–035] (RIN: 2115–AA97) re- Department of Transportation, transmitting the Department’s final rule—Airworthiness ceived August 4,1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. the Department’s final rule—Airworthiness Directives; British Aerospace (Jetstream) 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Transpor- Directives; Pratt & Whitney Canada PW100 Model 4101 Airplanes (Federal Aviation Ad- tation and Infrastructure. Series Turboprop Engines (Federal Aviation ministration) [Docket No. 97–NM–137–AD; 4717. A letter from the General Counsel, Administration) [Docket No. 97–ANE–32–AD; Amdt. 39–10090; AD 97–16–01] (RIN: 2120–AA64) Department of Transportation, transmitting Amdt. 39–10107; AD 97–17–05] (RIN: 2120–AA64) received August 4, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. the Department’s final rule—Airworthiness received August 28, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Transpor- Directives; Boeing Model 737–100 and -200 Se- 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Transpor- tation and Infrastructure. ries Airplanes (Federal Aviation Administra- tation and Infrastructure. 4708. A letter from the General Counsel, tion) [Docket No. 96–NM–152–AD; Amdt. 39– 4727. A letter from the General Counsel, Department of Transportation, transmitting 10102; AD 97–17–01] (RIN: 2120–AA64) received Department of Transportation, transmitting the Department’s final rule—Airworthiness August 14, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. the Department’s final rule—Airworthiness Directives; Saab Model SAAB 2000 Series 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Transpor- Directives; Puritan-Bennett Aero Systems Airplanes (Federal Aviation Administration) tation and Infrastructure. Co., Cone and Seal Assemblies, part numbers [Docket No. 96–NM–221–AD; Amdt. 39–10089; 4718. A letter from the General Counsel, 210543 and 210543–01 (Federal Aviation Ad- AD 97–15–17] (RIN: 2120–AA64) received Au- Department of Transportation, transmitting ministration) [Docket No. 97–CE–75–AD; gust 4, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); the Department’s final rule—Revision of the Amdt. 39–10113; AD 97–18–03] (RIN: 2120–AA64) to the Committee on Transportation and In- Legal Description of the Dallas/Fort Worth received August 28, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. frastructure. Class B Airspace Area; TX (Federal Aviation 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Transpor- 4709. A letter from the General Counsel, Administration) [Airspace Docket No. 97– tation and Infrastructure. Department of Transportation, transmitting ASW–11] (RIN: 2120–AA66) received August 14, 4728. A letter from the General Counsel, the Department’s final rule—Airworthiness 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Department of Transportation, transmitting Directives; Industrie Aeronautiche e Committee on Transportation and Infra- the Department’s final rule—Airworthiness Meccaniche Rinaldo Piaggio S.p.A. Model P– structure. Directives; Pratt & Whitney JT8D–200 Series 180 Airplanes (Federal Aviation Administra- 4719. A letter from the General Counsel, Turbofan Engines (Federal Aviation Admin- tion) [Docket No. 96–CE–56–AD; Amdt. 39– Department of Transportation, transmitting istration) [Docket No. 97–ANE–08; Amdt. 39– 10088; AD 97–15–14] (RIN: 2120–AA64) received the Department’s final rule—Establishment 10106; AD 97–17–04] (RIN: 2120–AA64) received August 4, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. of Class E Airspace; SD (Federal Aviation August 28, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Transpor- Administration) [Airspace Docket No. 97– 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Transpor- tation and Infrastructure. AGL–19] (RIN: 2120–AA66) received August 28, tation and Infrastructure. 4710. A letter from the General Counsel, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the 4729. A letter from the General Counsel, Department of Transportation, transmitting Committee on Transportation and Infra- Department of Transportation, transmitting the Department’s final rule—Airworthiness structure. the Department’s final rule—Airworthiness Directives; Avco Lycoming and Textron 4720. A letter from the General Counsel, Directives; Airbus Model A300–600 Series Air- Lycoming Reciprocating Engines (Federal Department of Transportation, transmitting planes (Federal Aviation Administration) Aviation Administration) [Docket No. 97– the Department’s final rule—Modification of [Docket No. 95–NM–228–AD; Amdt. 39–10097; ANE–26–AD; Amdt. 39–10085; AD 97–15–11] Class E Airspace; Grafton, ND (Federal Avia- AD 97–16–06] (RIN: 2120–AA64) received Au- (RIN:2120–AA64) received August 4, 1997, pur- tion Administration) [Airspace Docket No. gust 28, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. suant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Commit- 97–AGL–23] (RIN: 2120–AA66) received August 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Transpor- tee on Transportation and Infrastructure. 28, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to tation and Infrastructure. 4711. A letter from the General Counsel, the Committee on Transportation and Infra- 4730. A letter from the General Counsel, Department of Transportation, transmitting structure. Department of Transportation, transmitting the Department’s final rule—Standard In- 4721. A letter from the General Counsel, the Department’s final rule—Railroad/High- strument Approach Procedures; Miscellane- Department of Transportation, transmitting way Projects (Federal Highway Administra- ous Amendments (Federal Aviation Adminis- the Department’s final rule—Revision of tion) [FHWA Docket No. FHWA–97–2681] H6796 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 3, 1997 (RIN: 2125–AD86) received August 28, 1997, strument Approach Procedures; Miscellane- 4751. A letter from the Chief, Regulations pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Com- ous Amendments (Federal Aviation Adminis- Unit, Internal Revenue Service, transmitting mittee on Transportation and Infrastruc- tration) [Docket No. 28994; Amdt. No. 1815] the Service’s final rule—Reduction in Cer- ture. (RIN: 2120–AA65) received August 25, 1997, tain Deductions of Mutual Life Insurance 4731. A letter from the General Counsel, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Com- Companies [Rev. Rul. 97–35] received August Department of Transportation, transmitting mittee on Transportation and Infrastruc- 15, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Department’s final rule—Hazardous Ma- ture. the Committee on Ways and Means. terials: Withdrawal of Radiation Protection 4740. A letter from the General Counsel, 4752. A letter from the Chief, Regulations Program Requirement (Research and Special Department of Transportation, transmitting Unit, Internal Revenue Service, transmitting Programs Administration) [Docket No. the Department’s final rule—Standard In- the Service’s final rule—Designated Private RSPA–97–2850 (HM–169B)] (RIN: 2137–AD08) strument Approach Procedures; Miscellane- Delivery Services [Notice 97–50] received Au- received August 28, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. ous Amendments (Federal Aviation Adminis- gust 29, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Transpor- tration) [Docket No. 28993; Amdt. No. 1814] 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Ways and tation and Infrastructure. (RIN: 2120–AA65) received August 25, 1997, Means. 4732. A letter from the General Counsel, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Com- 4753. A letter from the Chief, Regulations Department of Transportation, transmitting mittee on Transportation and Infrastruc- Unit, Internal Revenue Service, transmitting the Department’s final rule—Inland Water- ture. the Service’s final rule—Low-Income Hous- ways Navigation Regulations—Temporary 4741. A letter from the Director, Office of ing Credit [Revenue Ruling 97–34] received Reduction in Speed Limits on the St. Clair Regulatory Management and Information, August 25, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. River, Great Lakes (Coast Guard) [CGD09–97– Environmental Protection Agency, transmit- 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Ways and 021] (RIN: 2115–AE84) received August 28, ting the Agency’s final rule—Water Quality Means. 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Standards for Idaho [FRL–5864–2] received 4754. A letter from the Chief, Regulations Committee on Transportation and Infra- August 6, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. Unit, Internal Revenue Service, transmitting structure. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Transpor- the Service’s final rule—Electing Small 4733. A letter from the General Counsel, tation and Infrastructure. Business Trusts [Notice 97–49] received Au- Department of Transportation, transmitting 4742. A letter from the Chairman, Surface gust 25, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. the Department’s final rule—Safety and Se- Transportation Board, transmitting the 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Ways and curity Zones; Presidential Visit, Martha’s Board’s final rule—Nomenclature Changes in Means. Vineyard, MA (Coast Guard) [CGD01 97–085] the Board’s Regulations [STB Ex Parte No. 4755. A letter from the Chief, Regulations (RIN: 2115–AA97) received August 28, 1997, 567] received August 6, 1997, pursuant to 5 Unit, Internal Revenue Service, transmitting pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Com- U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on the Service’s final rule—Taxation of fringe mittee on Transportation and Infrastruc- Transportation and Infrastructure. benefits [Revenue Ruling 97–33] received Au- ture. 4743. A letter from the Chief, Regulations gust 25, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 4734. A letter from the General Counsel, Unit, Internal Revenue Service, transmitting 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Ways and Department of Transportation, transmitting the Service’s final rule—The May Department Means. the Department’s final rule—Safety and Se- Stores Co. v. United States [Citation: 36 Fed. 4756. A letter from the Chief, Regulations curity Zones; Presidential Visit, Martha’s Cl. 680 (1996)] received August 4, 1997, pursu- Unit, Internal Revenue Service, transmitting Vineyard, MA (Coast Guard) [CGD01 97–082] ant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee the Service’s final rule—Rules for Property (RIN: 2115–AA97) received August 28, 1997, on Ways and Means. Produced in a Farming Business [TD 8729] pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Com- 4744. A letter from the Chief, Regulations (RIN: 1545–AV37) received August 25, 1997, mittee on Transportation and Infrastruc- Unit, Internal Revenue Service, transmitting pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Com- ture. the Service’s final rule—Last-in, First-out mittee on Ways and Means. 4735. A letter from the General Counsel, Inventories [Rev. Rul. 97–32] received August 4757. A letter from the National Director, Department of Transportation, transmitting 4, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to Tax Forms and Publications Division, Inter- the Department’s final rule—Special Local the Committee on Ways and Means. nal Revenue Service, transmitting the Serv- Regulations for Marine Events; Norfolk Har- 4745. A letter from the Chief, Regulations ice’s final rule—Filing Information Returns bor, Elizabeth River, Norfolk, Virginia and Unit, Internal Revenue Service, transmitting Magnetically/Electronically [Rev. Proc. 97– Portsmouth, Virginia (Coast Guard) [CGD the Service’s final rule—Procedure for 34] received August 25, 1997, pursuant to 5 05–97–007] (RIN: 2115–AE46) received August Changing a Method of Accounting under Sec- U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on 28, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to tion 263A (RIN: 1545–AQ94) received August 4, Ways and Means. the Committee on Transportation and Infra- 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the 4758. A letter from the Chief, Regulations structure. Committee on Ways and Means. Branch, United States Customs Service, 4736. A letter from the General Counsel, 4746. A letter from the Chief, Regulations transmitting the Service’s final rule—Coun- Department of Transportation, transmitting Unit, Internal Revenue Service, transmitting try of Origin Marking [T.D. 97–72] (RIN: 1515– the Department’s final rule—Special Local the Service’s final rule—Weighted Average AB82) received August 19, 1997, pursuant to 5 Regulations for Marine Events; Hampton Interest Rate Update [Notice 97–44] received U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Offshore Challenge, Chesapeake Bay, Hamp- August 4, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. Ways and Means. ton, Virginia (Coast Guard) [CGD 05–97–065] 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Ways and 4759. A communication from the President (RIN: 2115–AE46) received August 28, 1997, Means. of the United States, transmitting the An- 4747. A letter from the Chief, Regulations pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Com- nual Report to the Congress on Foreign Eco- Unit, Internal Revenue Service, transmitting mittee on Transportation and Infrastruc- nomic Collection and Industrial Espionage, the Service’s final rule—Highly Compensated ture. pursuant to Public Law 103—359, section 4737. A letter from the General Counsel, Employee Definition [Notice 97–45] received 809(b) (108 Stat. 3454); to the Committee on Department of Transportation, transmitting August 4, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. Intelligence (Permanent Select). the Department’s final rule—Airworthiness 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Ways and 4760. A letter from the Chairman, Federal Directives; Aviat Aircraft, Inc. Models S–1S, Means. Trade Commission, transmitting the eighty- S–1T, S–2, S–2A, S–2S, and S–2B Airplanes 4748. A letter from the Chief, Regulations second Annual Report of the Federal Trade (formerly known as Pitts Models S–1S, S–1T, Unit, Internal Revenue Service, transmitting Commission, pursuant to 47 U.S.C. 154(k); S–2, S–2A, S–2S, and S–2B Airplanes) (Fed- the Service’s final rule—Remedial Amend- jointly to the Committees on Commerce and eral Aviation Administration) [Docket No. ment Period (RIN: 1545–AV23) received Au- the Judiciary. 96–CE–23–AD; Amdt. 39–10109; AD 97–17–07] gust 13, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. (RIN: 2120–AA64) received August 25, 1997, 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Ways and f pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Com- Means. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES ON 4749. A letter from the Chief, Regulations mittee on Transportation and Infrastruc- PUBLIC BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS ture. Unit, Internal Revenue Service, transmitting 4738. A letter from the General Counsel, the Service’s final rule—Allocations of Under clause 2 of rule XIII, reports of Department of Transportation, transmitting Deprication Recapture among Partners in a committees were delivered to the Clerk the Department’s final rule—Standard In- Partnership (RIN: 1545–AT32) received Au- for printing and reference to the proper strument Approach Procedures; Miscellane- gust 19, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. calendar, as follows: ous Amendments (Federal Aviation Adminis- 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Ways and tration) [Docket No. 28992; Amdt. No. 1813] Means. [Pursuant to the order of the House on July 31, (RIN: 2120–AA65) received August 25, 1997, 4750. A letter from the Chief, Regulations 1997 the following report was filed on August pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Com- Unit, Internal Revenue Service, transmitting 5, 1997] mittee on Transportation and Infrastruc- the Service’s final rule—Medical Savings Ac- Mr. KOLBE: Committee on Appropriations. ture. counts [Announcement 97–79] received Au- H.R. 2378. A bill making appropriations for 4739. A letter from the General Counsel, gust 15, 1997, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. the Treasury Department, the U.S. Postal Department of Transportation, transmitting 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Ways and Service, the Executive Office of the Presi- the Department’s final rule—Standard In- Means. dent, and certain independent agencies, for September 3, 1997 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6797 the fiscal year ending September 30, 1998, and by the Speaker, in each case for consider- By Ms. MILLENDER-MCDONALD: for other purposes (Rept. 105–240). Referred ation of such provisions as fall within the ju- H.R. 2389. A bill to authorize funding for to the Committee of the Whole House on the risdiction of the committee concerned. the National Women’s Business Council, and State of the Union. By Mr. DINGELL (for himself, Mr. for other purposes; to the Committee on [Submitted September 3, 1997] BARCIA of Michigan, Ms. STABENOW, Small Business. and Mr. STUPAK): By Mr. MOAKLEY: Mr. KOLBE: Committee on Appropriations. H.R. 2382. A bill to amend the Balanced H.R. 2390. A bill to repeal the provision Supplemental report on H.R. 2378. A bill Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act which credits the increase in the tobacco ex- making appropriations for the Treasury De- of 1985 to change the discretionary spending cise taxes enacted by the Balanced Budget partment, the U.S. Postal Service, the Exec- limits to allow the 4.3 cents per gallon Fed- Act of 1997 against the payments due under utive Office of the President, and certain eral gas tax redirected to the Highway Trust the tobacco industry settlement agreement independent agencies, for the fiscal year end- Fund to be spent on other domestic pro- of June 20, 1997; to the Committee on Ways ing September 30, 1998, and for other pur- grams; to the Committee on the Budget. and Means. poses (Rept. 105–240, Pt. 2). By Mr. EHLERS (for himself and Mr. By Mr. PASCRELL: Mr. YOUNG of Alaska: Committee on Re- COBLE): H.R. 2391. A bill to amend the Higher Edu- sources. H.R. 700. A bill to remove the re- cation Act of 1965 to extend and make uni- striction on the distribution of certain reve- H.R. 2383. A bill to authorize the enforce- form the repayment plans available under nues from the Mineral Springs parcel to cer- ment by State and local governments of cer- the various Federal student loan programs; tain members of the Agua Caliente Band of tain Federal Communications Commission to the Committee on Education and the Cahuilla Indians; with an amendment (Rept. regulations regarding use of citizens band Workforce. 105–241). Referred to the Committee on the radio equipment; to the Committee on Com- By Mr. PITTS: Whole House on the State of the Union. merce. H.R. 2392. A bill to amend title 28, United Mr. YOUNG of Alaska: Committee on Re- By Mr. FORBES: States Code, to place a limitation on habeas sources. H.R. 976. A bill to provide for the H.R. 2384. A bill to prohibit reactivation of corpus relief that prevents retrial of an ac- disposition of certain funds appropriated to the high flux beam reactor at Brookhaven cused; to the Committee on the Judiciary. pay judgment in favor of the Mississippi National Laboratory; to the Committee on By Mr. SAXTON (by request): Sioux Indians, and for other purposes; with Science. By Mr. FRANKS of New Jersey (for H.R. 2393. A bill to approve a governing an amendment (Rept. 105–242). Referred to international fishery agreement between the the Committee of the Whole House on the himself, Mr. WEYGAND, Mr. DELAHUNT, Mr. SCHUMER, Mr. United States and the People’s Republic of State of the Union. China; to the Committee on Resources. Mr. SENSENBRENNER: Committee on SNOWBARGER, Mr. FRANK of Massa- chusetts, Mr. PALLONE, Mr. MEEHAN, By Mr. SHIMKUS: Science. H.R. 1903. A bill to amend the Na- H.R. 2394. A bill to direct the Director of tional Institute of Standards and Technology Mr. VISCLOSKY, Mr. BARRETT of Wis- consin, Mr. CASTLE, Mr. PETRI, Mr. the Federal Emergency Management Agency Act to enhance the ability of the National to transfer certain parcels of land located in Institute of Standards and Technology to ROTHMAN, Mr. TIERNEY, Mr. LUTHER, Mr. SKAGGS, Mr. HANSEN, Mr. SMITH the counties of Greene and Calhoun, IL; to improve computer security, and for other the Committee on Transportation and Infra- purposes; with an amendment (Rept. 105–243). of New Jersey, Mrs. MALONEY of New York, and Mr. LIPINSKI): structure. Referred to the Committee of the Whole By Mr. CHRISTENSEN: House on the State of the Union. H.R. 2385. A bill to repeal the provision providing for crediting the increase in excise H. Con. Res. 142. Concurrent resolution au- f taxes on certain tobacco products against thorizing the use of the Capitol rotunda for PUBLIC BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS payments made pursuant to tobacco indus- the Senate Thanksgiving Celebration; to the try settlement legislation; to the Committee Committee on House Oversight. Under clause 5 of rule X and clause 4 on Ways and Means. By Mr. BEREUTER (for himself and of rule XXII, public bills and resolu- By Mr. HUNTER (for himself, Mr. COX Mr. GILMAN): tions were introduced and severally re- of California, Mr. GIBBONS, Mr. GIL- H. Res. 217. Resolution recognizing the im- ferred as follows: MAN, Mr. SAM JOHNSON, Mr. portant contributions made by Americans of Austrian heritage; to the Committee on [Submitted September 2, 1997] MCINTOSH, Mr. ROHRABACHER, Mr. ROYCE, Mr. SHADEGG, Mr. SMITH of International Relations. By Mr. COBURN (for himself, Mr. BURR New Jersey, Mr. SOLOMON, and Mr. By Mr. ETHERIDGE: of North Carolina, Mr. STUPAK, Ms. SPENCE): H. Res. 218. Resolution expressing the sense DEGETTE, and Mr. DEUTSCH): H.R. 2386. A bill to implement the provi- of the House of Representatives that a com- H.R. 2298. A bill to improve the regulation sions of the Taiwan Relations Act concern- memorative postage stamp should be issued of radiopharmaceuticals; to the Committee ing the stability and security of Taiwan and in honor of Ava Gardner; to the Committee on Commerce. United States cooperation with Taiwan on on Government Reform and Oversight. [Submitted September 3, 1997] the development and acquisition of defensive f military articles; to the Committee on Inter- By Mr. COBLE: PRIVATE BILLS AND H.R. 2379. A bill to designate the Federal national Relations, and in addition to the building and U.S. courthouse located at 251 Committee on National Security, for a pe- RESOLUTIONS North Main Street in Winston-Salem, NC, as riod to be subsequently determined by the Under clause 1 of Rule XXII. the ‘‘Hiram H. Ward Federal Building and Speaker, in each case for consideration of Mr. SCARBOROUGH introduced a bill United States Courthouse‘‘; to the Commit- such provisions as fall within the jurisdic- (H.R. 2395) to authorize the Secretary of tee on Transportation and Infrastructure. tion of the committee concerned. Transportation to issue a certificate of docu- By Mr. GOODLATTE (for himself and By Mrs. LOWEY (for herself, Mr. KEN- mentation with appropriate endorsement for Mr. LOBIONDO): NEDY of Massachusetts, Mr. HANSEN, employment in the coastwise trade for the H.R. 2380. A bill to amend title 18 of the Mr. MEEHAN, Mrs. MORELLA, Ms. vessel Elmo; which was referred to the Com- United States Code with respect to gambling DEGETTE, Mr. OBEY, Mr. WAXMAN, mittee on Transportation and Infrastruc- on the Internet, and for other purposes; to Mr. NADLER, Mr. LAFALCE, Mr. ture. the Committee on the Judiciary. FRANK of Massachusetts, Ms. f By Mr. DICKS (for himself, Mr. LOFGREN, Ms. PELOSI, Mr. LUTHER, METCALF, Mr. FROST, Mr. FOGLIETTA, Mr. DEFAZIO, Mr. WEYGAND, Mr. ADDITIONAL SPONSORS OLVER, Mr. DELAHUNT, Mr. GEP- Mrs. MINK of Hawaii, Mr. Under clause 4 of rule XXII, sponsors UNDERWOOD, Mr. FALEOMAVAEGA, Mr. HARDT, Mr. BARRETT of Wisconsin, MCDERMOTT, Mr. MCGOVERN, Ms. Mr. ALLEN, Mr. CAPPS, Mr. were added to public bills and resolu- CHRISTIAN-GREEN, Mr. BALDACCI, Ms. MCDERMOTT, Mr. STARK, Mr. tions as follows: NORTON, Mr. ACKERMAN, Mr. DEL- MCHALE, and Mr. ACKERMAN): H.R. 12: Mr. SHAYS, Mr. ENGEL, and Ms. LUMS, Ms. FURSE, Mrs. MALONEY of H.R. 2387. A bill to repeal the provision MCKINNEY. New York, Mr. CLEMENT, Ms. crediting increased excise taxes on certain H.R. 15: Mr. SISISKY. SLAUGHTER, Mr. ADAM SMITH of tobacco products against payments made H.R. 51: Ms. FURSE, Mr. COLLINS, and Mr. Washington, Ms. LOFGREN, Mr. pursuant to the tobacco industry settlement CALLAHAN. HINCHEY, and Mr. JEFFERSON): legislation; to the Committee on Ways and H.R. 59: Mr. POMBO, Mr. COLLINS, and Mr. H.R. 2381. A bill to amend the Violent Means. LATHAM. Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of By Mr. MCDADE: H.R. 64: Mr. STUMP. 1994 to allow certain grant funds to be used H.R. 2388. A bill to provide for a temporary H.R. 80: Mr. HOSTETTLER and Mr. LUTHER. to provide parent education; to the Commit- increase in the basic formula price for milk H.R. 108: Mr. OWENS and Mr. SHAYS. tee on the Judiciary, and in addition to the of the highest use classification under Fed- H.R. 145: Mr. FARR of California, Ms. CHRIS- Committee on Education and the Workforce, eral milk marketing orders; to the Commit- TIAN-GREEN, Mr. KIND of Wisconsin, Mr. for a period to be subsequently determined tee on Agriculture. MANTON, Ms. JACKSON-LEE, Mr. COBURN, Ms. H6798 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 3, 1997

SANCHEZ, Mr. GREEN, and Mr. PRICE of North H.R. 1158: Mr. PAPPAS. H.R. 1903: Mr. NETHERCUTT. Carolina. H.R. 1164: Mr. CONDIT. H.R. 1908: Mr. DEFAZIO. H.R. 180: Mr. SHAYS. H.R. 1165: Mr. ENGEL, Mr. STOKES, and Mr. H.R. 1951: Mr. LEWIS of Georgia, Mr. H.R. 209: Mr. QUINN. ABERCROMBIE. DEFAZIO, Mr. MEEHAN, Mr. PAYNE, Mr. H.R. 211: Mr. FROST, Mr. DELLUMS, and Mr. H.R. 1171: Mr. PASCRELL. MORAN of Virginia, Mr. ALLEN, and Mr. FILNER. H.R. 1178: Mr. DAVIS of Illinois. HILLIARD. H.R. 301: Mr. SERRANO. H.R. 1215: Mr. PASCRELL, Mr. MEEHAN, and H.R. 1962: Mr. PAPPAS. H.R. 305: Ms. DELAURO and Mr. PASCRELL. Mr. ABERCROMBIE. H.R. 1970: Mr. ENGEL. H.R. 306: Mr. SABO, Mr. PRICE of North H.R. 1218: Mr. PAYNE and Mr. H.R. 1984: Mr. NETHERCUTT, Mr. HERGER, Carolina, and Mr. DIXON. FRELINGHUYSEN. Mr. ISTOOK, Mr. DICKEY, Mr. ARCHER, Mr. BE- H.R. 339: Mr. COMBEST and Mr. GRAHAM. H.R. 1231: Mr. KUCINICH, Mr. TURNER, and REUTER, Mr. SHUSTER, Mr. COBLE, Mr. Ka- H.R. 404: Mr. RADANOVICH. Mr. DEAL of Georgia. sich, Mr. GOODLING, Mr. SCARBOROUGH, Mr. H.R. 438: Mr. LUTHER. H.R. 1232: Mrs. CHENOWETH, Mr. SHAW, and WAMP, Mr. NUSSLE, Mr. BERRY, Mr. JOHN, H.R. 480: Mr. OXLEY and Mr. GRAHAM. Mr. MCCOLLUM. Mr. BRYANT, and Mr. ROGERS. H.R. 493: Mr. BARRETT of Nebraska and H.R. 1241: Mr. STARK, Mr. BROWN of Califor- H.R. 2004: Mr. MANTON, Ms. BROWN of Flor- Mrs. KELLY. nia, and Mr. STENHOLM. ida, Mr. SCHIFF, and Ms. DELAURO. H.R. 498: Mr. SERRANO. H.R. 1270: Mr. DEUTSCH, Mr. STENHOLM, and H.R. 2020: Mr. GEPHARDT, Mr. GREEN, Mr. H.R. 530: Mr. GIBBONS and Mr. NETHERCUTT. Mr. SMITH of Michigan. CLEMENT, Ms. ESHOO, Mr. SHIMKUS, Mr. H.R. 551: Mr. SHAYS. H.R. 1345: Mr. DAVIS of Illinois. WELLER, Mr. UNDERWOOD, Ms. PRYCE of Ohio, H.R. 611: Mr. PASCRELL and Ms. SANCHEZ. H.R. 1371: Mr. HALL of Texas. Mr. ENGLISH of Pennsylvania, and Mr. H.R. 635: Mr. TALENT. H.R. 1398: Mr. HALL of Texas. BALDACCI. H.R. 641: Mr. TIAHRT. H.R. 1415: Mr. TIERNEY, Mr. SANDLIN, Mr. H.R. 2023: Mr. HINCHEY. H.R. 689: Mr. SERRANO. WEXLER, Mr. LAMPSON, Mr. DELAHUNT, Mr. H.R. 2029: Mr. GIBBONS and Mr. SENSEN- H.R. 695: Mr. DAVIS of Illinois and Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts, Mr. ANDREWS, Mr. BRENNER. RUSH. MILLER of California, Mr. MATSUI, Mrs. H.R. 2034: Mr. NORWOOD, Mr. BARR of Geor- H.R. 758: Mr. LATOURETTE, Mr. ROGAN, and LOWEY, Mr. BONIOR, Mr. KLINK, Mr. CONYERS, gia, Ms. CHRISTIAN-GREEN, and Mr. MINGE. Mr. SMITH of Texas. Mr. MASCARA, Mr. CAPPS, Mr. LEWIS of Geor- H.R. 2072: Mr. SANDLIN, Mr. WATTS of Okla- H.R. 777: Mr. COYNE, Mr. FALEOMAVAEGA, gia, Mr. MEEHAN, Mr. MOAKLEY, Mr. NADLER, homa, Mr. COMBEST, Mr. REYES, and Mr. Mr. BISHOP, Mrs. LOWEY, Mr. STOKES, Mr. Mr. SAWYER, Mr. MENENDEZ, Ms. EDDIE BER- LAMPSON. ACKERMAN, Mr. REYES, and Mr. TRAFICANT. NICE JOHNSON of Texas, Ms. ESHOO, Mr. H.R. 2085: Mr. UNDERWOOD, Mr. POSHARD, H.R. 789: Mr. ISTOOK. KUCINICH, Mr. JOHNSON of Wisconsin, and Mr. Mr. ROHRABACHER, Mr. GUTIERREZ, and Mr. H.R. 805: Mr. FOLEY, Mrs. ROUKEMA, and HEFLEY. DELLUMS. Mr. NORWOOD. H.R. 1423: Ms. CARSON. H.R. 2103: Mr. SKEEN. H.R. 815: Mr. CALVERT, Mr. GUTKNECHT, Mr. H.R. 1425: Mr. PASCRELL. H.R. 2110: Ms. CHRISTIAN-GREEN and Ms. SCHIFF, Mr. SERRANO, Mr. GREEN Mr. H.R. 1427: Ms. STABENOW. SLAUGHTER. SHADEGG, Mr. COMBEST, Mr. COLLINS, Mr. H.R. 1434: Mr. LEWIS of Georgia and Mr. H.R. 2113: Mr. VENTO, Mr. WHITFIELD, Mr. NETHERCUTT, Mr. WAMP, and Mr. PASCRELL. MATSUI. LEWIS of Kentucky, Mr. BAESLER, Mr. H.R. 859: Mr. SOLOMON, Mr. SNYDER, Mr. H.R. 1437: Mr. WAXMAN. PARKER, and Mr. WICKER. MCCOLLUM, Mr. STENHOLM, and Mrs. EMER- H.R. 1450: Mr. TORRES and Ms. ESHOO. H.R. 2116: Mr. CLAY, Mr. WATT of North SON. H.R. 1456: Mr. COOK. Carolina, Mr. LOBIONDO, Mr. OXLEY, Mr. H.R. 864: Ms. CARSON, Mr. VISCLOSKY, Mr. H.R. 1500: Mr. BLAGOJEVICH. BALDACCI, Ms. CARSON, Mr. KUCINICH, Mr. MATSUI, Mr. HASTINGS of Florida, Mr. MAN- H.R. 1507: Mr. SKAGGS, Ms. STABENOW, Mr. MENENDEZ, Mr. ROTHMAN, Mr. FAZIO of Cali- TON, Mr. BARRETT of Wisconsin, Mr. NEAL of FORBES, Mr. EHLERS, Mr. CUMMINGS, Mr. LA- fornia, and Mrs. CLAYTON. Massachusetts, Ms. KILPATRICK, Mr. FALCE, Mr. MEEHAN, Mr. SANDERS, Mr. BOU- H.R. 2121: Mr. LANTOS, Mr. PORTER, Mrs. PALLONE, Mr. POSHARD, Ms. STABENOW, Mr. CHER, and Mr. PASCRELL. MALONEY of New York, Mr. SERRANO, Mr. MILLER of California, Ms. BROWN of Florida, H.R. 1508: Mr. KLECZKA and Mr. BAKER. DEFAZIO, Mr. GUTIERREZ, and Mr. PAYNE. Mr. OWENS, Ms. MILLENDER-MCDONALD, Mr. H.R. 1519: Mr. ACKERMAN and Ms. CHRIS- H.R. 2122: Mr. GIBBONS. EHLERS, Mr. FALEOMAVAEGA, Mr. FARR of TIAN-GREEN. H.R. 2140: Mr. WAMP, Mr. WYNN, and Ms. California, Mr. WATT of North Carolina, Mr. H.R. 1531: Ms. FURSE, Mr. BERMAN, and Mr. SANCHEZ. SHIMKUS, Mrs. LOWEY, Mr. FRANK of Massa- ACKERMAN. H.R. 2145: Mr. PARKER. chusetts, Mr. COYNE, Mr. ENGLISH of Penn- H.R. 1541: Mr. GILCHREST. H.R. 2185: Mr. MARTINEZ, and Ms. DELAURO. sylvania, Mr. SKEEN, and Mr. ACKERMAN. H.R. 1542: Mr. SENSENBRENNER, Mr. FOX of H.R. 2221: Mr. BARTON of Texas. H.R. 869: Mr. BLILEY, Mr. KUCINICH, Ms. Pennsylvania, and Mrs. NORTHUP. H.R. 2231: Mr. BARTON of Texas and Mr. FURSE, and Mr. GRAHAM. H.R. 1570: Mr. BARRETT of Wisconsin. MCINTOSH. H.R. 875: Mr. NETHERCUTT, Ms. FURSE, Mr. H.R. 1571: Ms. MILLENDER-MCDONALD. H.R. 2232: Mr. COX of California, Mr. GIL- LAMPSON, and Mr. WEXLER. H.R. 1624: Mr. BALDACCI and Mr. GREEN. MAN, Mr. MCCOLLUM, Mrs. FOWLER, Ms. ROS- H.R. 880: Mr. COLLINS, Mr. BUNNING of Ken- H.R. 1636: Mr. ENGEL. LEHTINEN, Mr. HUNTER, Mr. SOLOMON, Mr. tucky, and Mrs. NORTHUP. H.R. 1689: Mr. LARGENT, Mr. ROHRABACHER, HYDE, Mr. BOB SCHAFFER, and Mr. KING of H.R. 883: Mr. BOYD and Mr. YATES. Mr. CUNNINGHAM, Ms. STABENOW, Mr. KEN- New York. H.R. 906: Mr. MARTINEZ. NEDY of Rhode Island, and Mr. BAKER. H.R. 2250: Mr. NEY, Mr. CANADY of Florida, H.R. 919: Mr. NEAL of Massachusetts. H.R. 1715: Mr. FOGLIETTA. Mr. RAMSTAD, Mr. DEAL of Georgia, Mr. H.R. 925: Mr. FARR of California. H.R. 1716: Mr. ENGEL. BURR of North Carolina, Mr. CHRISTENSEN, H.R. 1005: Mr. COX of California. H.R. 1719: Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. BENTSEN, Mr. GRAHAM, and Mr. DAN H.R. 1009: Mr. COMBEST. H.R. 1733: Mr. EHLERS. SCHAEFER of Colorado. H.R. 1023: Mr. PITTS, Mr. CLEMENT, Mr. H.R. 1754: Mr. MCGOVERN and Ms. CHRIS- H.R. 2251: Mr. DELLUMS. DICKEY, Mr. BATEMAN, Mr. JOHNSON of Wis- TIAN-GREEN. H.R. 2263: Mr. BARR of Georgia, Mr. SAND- consin, and Mr. PALLONE. H.R. 1773: Ms. CHRISTIAN-GREEN. ERS, Mr. BARRETT of Nebraska, Mr. ROGAN, H.R. 1037: Mr. LEWIS of Georgia, Mr. TURN- H.R. 1776: Mr. ADAM SMITH of Washington. Mr. HANSEN, Mr. MANZULLO, Mr. COOK, Ms. ER, and Mr. CHAMBLISS. H.R. 1788: Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts, Mr. SANCHEZ, Mr. SMITH of Texas, Mr. MARTINEZ, H.R. 1050: Mr. CLAY and Mr. DIXON. LUTHER, and Mr. MORAN of Virginia. and Mr. LAZIO of New York. H.R. 1053: Mr. BAKER. H.R. 1799: Mr. BLUMENAUER, Mr. KAN- H.R. 2283: Mr. DICKS, Mr. QUINN, and Ms. H.R. 1054: Mr. CLYBURN, Mr. HASTERT, Mr. JORSKI, Mr. EHLERS, and Mr. LEVIN. CHRISTIAN-GREEN. MCCOLLUM, Mr. COOKSEY, and Mr. LATHAM. H.R. 1827: Ms. CARSON. H.R. 2290: Mr. GEJDENSON. H.R. 1059: Mr. HASTERT, Mr. KLUG, Mr. H.R. 1832: Mr. LUTHER. H.R. 2317: Mr. TORRES, Mr. LAFALCE, Mr. HORN, Mr. WELLER, and Mr. HYDE. H.R. 1836: Mr. ROEMER, Mr. DAVIS of Vir- GUTIERREZ, and Ms. CHRISTIAN-GREEN. H.R. 1060: Mr. CAMP, Mr. DICKEY, Mr. ginia, and Mr. BEREUTER. H.R. 2321: Mrs. KENNELLY of Connecticut, ETHERIDGE, Mr. BALLENGER, Mr. GALLEGLY, H.R. 1839: Mr. CALVERT, Mr. REDMOND, Mr. Mr. SNOWBARGER, Mr. BLILEY, and Mr. POR- Mrs. TAUSCHER, Mr. STEARNS, Mr. ENGLISH of BRYANT, Mr. HINCHEY, Mrs. LINDA SMITH of TER. Pennsylvania, and Mr. CUNNINGHAM. Washington, Mr. MCCRERY, and Mr. EVER- H.R. 2329: Mr. TAUZIN. H.R. 1108: Mr. BUNNING of Kentucky and ETT. H.R. 2369: Mr. MANTON. Mr. PICKETT. H.R. 1842: Mr. MYRICK, Mr. HUTCHINSON, H.J. Res. 66: Mr. WYNN, Ms. MILLENDER- H.R. 1126: Mr. COYNE, Mr. DELAHUNT, Mr. Mr. BARTLETT, Mr. ROYCE, and Mr. MCDONALD, Mr. RANGEL, Mr. TOWNS, Mr. PASCRELL, Mr. GREEN, and Mr. BARTLETT of NETHERCUTT. SERRANO, Mr. HILLIARD, Mr. MATSUI, Mr. Maryland. H.R. 1849: Mr. COBURN. NEAL of Massachusetts, Mr. PASCRELL, Mr. H.R. 1132: Ms. CARSON. H.R. 1861: Mr. GUTIERREZ. MALONEY of Connecticut, Mr. ALLEN, Mr. H.R. 1134: Mr. JACKSON, Ms. CARSON, Mr. H.R. 1873: Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts, Mr. KENNEDY of Rhode Island, Mr. DIXON, Mr. PAYNE, Mr. BAESLER, and Mr. PASCRELL. DELLUMS, and Mr. NEAL of Massachusetts. HINOJOSA, Mr. PAYNE, Mr. VENTO, Mr. H.R. 1154: Ms. CHRISTIAN-GREEN. H.R. 1874: Mr. NEAL of Massachusetts. RODRIGUEZ, Ms. HOOLEY of Oregon, Mr. September 3, 1997 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6799

BECERRA, Mr. SCHUMER, Mr. BLAGOJEVICH, H. Res. 16: Mr. OBERSTAR, Mr. SABO, Mr. In the item relating to ‘‘Department of Mr. FLAKE, Mr. MCHALE, Mr. FORD, Mr. RO- ROHRABACHER, Mr. BILIRAKIS, and Mr. LU- Education—Education Research Statistics, MERO-BARCELO, Mr. MILLER of California, Mr. THER. and Improvement’’, after the first dollar BONIOR, Mr. ENGEL, Ms. WOOLSEY, Mr. H. Res. 37: Mr. HOLDEN and Mr. LUTHER. amount, insert the following ‘‘(reduced by MCGOVERN, and Mr. SANDERS. H. Res. 83: Mrs. MORELLA. $50,000,000) H.J. Res. 89: Mr. BONIOR, Mr. YATES, Mr. H. Res. 139: Mr. CUNNINGHAM and Mr. COOK. In the item relating to ‘‘Department of PASCRELL, and Mr. BARRETT of Wisconsin. H. Res. 171: Ms. SLAUGHTER and Mrs. Education—Education Research Statistics, H. Con. Res. 13: Mr. HASTINGS of Florida. LOWEY. and Improvement’’, after the second dollar H. Con. Res. 36: Mr. TRAFICANT. f amount, insert the following ‘‘(reduced by H. Con. Res. 38: Mr. PASCRELL. $50,000,000) H. Con. Res. 52: Mr. MCHALE, Mr. LEWIS of DELETIONS OF SPONSORS FROM Georgia, Mr. SKAGGS, and Mr. COOK. PUBLIC BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS H.R. 2264 H. Con. Res. 55: Mr. SMITH of New Jersey OFFERED BY: MR. RIGGS and Ms. FURSE. Under clause 4 of rule XXII, sponsors H. Con. Res. 80: Mr. PICKERING, Mr. ROTH- were deleted from public bills and reso- AMENDMENT NO. 31: Page 102, after line 24, MAN, Mr. TORRES, Mr. PRICE of North Caro- lutions as follows: insert the following new section: lina, Mrs. EMERSON, Ms. DELAURO, Mr. WATT H.R. 1031: Mr. CUMMINGS. SEC. 516. (a) LIMITATION ON USE OF FUNDS of North Carolina, Mr. KENNEDY of Rhode Is- H.R. 2332: Mr. BOEHNER. FOR ADMISSIONS PREFERENCES IN PUBLIC EDU- land, Ms. WATERS, Mr. STOKES, Mr. REYES, f CATION.—None of the funds made available in Mr. METCALF, Mr. GOODLATTE, Mr. RIGGS, this Act may be used by the Department of Mrs. CLAYTON, Ms. HOOLEY of Oregon, Mr. AMENDMENTS Education to withhold any financial assist- NADLER, Mrs. FOWLER, Mr. MCCRERY, Mr. Under clause 6 of rule XXIII, pro- ance, or to impose, administer, or enforce MCDERMOTT, Mr. WELLER, Mr. ENGLISH of any other penalty, sanction, or remedy, for Pennsylvania, Mrs. MEEK of Florida, Mr. posed amendments were submitted as the refusal or failure of a Federal grant re- ROHRABACHER, Ms. MCKINNEY, Ms. DANNER, follows: cipient to enforce a preference or affirmative Mr. MOLLOHAN, Mr. WEXLER, Mr. CALLAHAN, H.R. 2264 action plan based on race, sex, color, eth- and Mr. TIAHRT. OFFERED BY: MR. CRANE nicity, or national origin for admissions to H. Con. Res. 89: Mr. WATTS of Oklahoma. public educational institutions. H. Con. Res. 96: Ms. FURSE. AMENDMENT NO. 28: Page 79, strike lines 8 H. Con. Res. 109: Mr. PORTER and Mr. NEY. through 21. (b) APPLICABILITY.—The limitation estab- lished in subsection (a) shall apply only to H. Con. Res. 114: Ms. FURSE, Ms. PELOSI, H.R. 2264 Mr. MORAN of Virginia, and Mr. BROWN of Federal grant recipients located in a State in Ohio. OFFERED BY: MS. JACKSON-LEE OF TEXAS which the enforcement of such preference or H. Con. Res. 127: Mr. Burton of Indiana, Mr. (Substitute Amendment for Amendment No. 24) plan is prohibited by the laws of the State or NEAL of Massachusetts, and Mr. MCGOVERN. AMENDMENT NO. 29: In the item relating to by an order of a Federal court. H. Con. Res. 128: Mr. MASCARA and Mr. LI- ‘‘HEALTH RESOURCES AND SERVICES ADMINIS- H.R. 2264 PINSKI. TRATION—HEALTH RESOURCES AND SERVICES’’, H. Con. Res. 134: Mr. CUNNINGHAM, Ms. insert after the first dollar amount (before OFFERED BY: MR. RODRIGUEZ ESHOO, Mr. BLUMENAUER, Mr. UNDERWOOD, the comma) ‘‘(reduced by $2,000,000)’’. AMENDMENT NO. 32: Page 66, line 26, after Mr. SNYDER, Mr. MASCARA, Mr. BOUCHER, Mr. In the item relating to ‘‘CENTERS FOR DIS- the dollar amount, insert ‘‘(decreased by SCOTT, Mr. SMITH of New Jersey, Mr. EASE CONTROL AND PREVENTION—DISEASE $8,834,000)’’. GUTIERREZ, Mr. LAMPSON, Mr. PAYNE, Mr. CONTROL, RESEARCH, AND TRAINING’’, insert Page 67, line 2, after ‘‘Act’’ insert ‘‘, ENGEL, Mr. KILDEE, Mr. BARRETT of Wiscon- after the first dollar amount (before the $34,388,000 shall be for comprehensive re- sin, Ms. LOFGREN, Mr. HASTERT, Mr. MCCOL- comma) ‘‘(increased by $2,000,000)’’. gional assistance centers under title XIII of LUM, Mrs. MORELLA, Ms. NORTON, Mr. UPTON, H.R. 2264 said Act’’. Mr. CONDIT, Mr. WATTS of Oklahoma, Mr. TRAFICANT, Ms. DUNN of Washington, Mr. OFFERED BY: MR. RIGGS H.R. 2264 NADLER, Mr. LEWIS of California, Mr. AMENDMENT NO. 30. In the item relating to OFFERED BY: MR. RODRIGUEZ RAMSTAD, Mr. SAXTON, Mr. KNOLLENBERG, ‘‘Department of Education—EDUCATION FOR Mr. DOOLITTLE, Mr. DUNCAN, Mr. OLVER, Mr. THE DISADVANTAGED’’, AFTER THE FOURTH AMENDMENT NO. 33: Page 66, line 26, after FOX of Pennsylvania, Mr. DIXON, Mr. DOLLAR AMOUNT, INSERT THE FOLLOWING ‘‘(IN- the dollar amount, insert ‘‘(decreased by HINCHEY, Mr. COOK, Mr. KING of New York, CREASED BY $200,000,000)’’ $33,970,000)’’. Mr. FRELINGHUYSEN, Mr. GEJDENSON, Mr. In the item relating to ‘‘Department of Page 67, line 2, after ‘‘Act’’ insert ‘‘, BOEHLERT, Mr. BACHUS, Mr. SCHIFF, Mr. Education—Education for the Disadvan- $59,524,000 shall be for comprehensive re- REYES, Mr. LIVINGSTON, Mr. METCALF, Mrs. taged’’, after the eighth dollar amount, in- gional assistance centers under title XIII of MCCARTHY of New York, and Ms. SLAUGHTER. sert the following ‘‘(reduced by $150,000,000) said Act’’.