Third Session (Seventh Lok Sabha)
(Yo/. VI cntans Nos. 21 30) No. 22, Tuesday,July 8, 1980 'Asadha 17, 1902 (Saka) COLUMNS 1 Answers to Questions :
· *Starred Questions Nos. 428, 429, 431,432,434, 435,437, and 438 I-28 ;;, ... . ; r,: 'nt. . . en A nswers to n."<..u,suons . : Starred Questions Nos. 430,433,436,439, to 448 and 337
Unstarred Questions Nos. 3307 to 3446 and 3448 to 3480 42-279
Re. Alleged misreporting of Lok Sabha proceedings- on Baghpat inc'dent by an Urdu Daily of Jullundhar 269-70
Re. Motions for Adjournment
Governments failureto prot.::c, life and honour of men and women of weaker sections 2 70-79 Papers Laid on the Table 280-82
Calling Attention to Matter of Urgent Public Importance-
Reported indefin· te strike by Jun· or Doctors in major hospitals in Delhi 282-304 Shri K.Lakkappa 283, 288-91 Shri B. Shankaranand 283-84, 291- 93, 295-96 Shri Mool Chand Da �a 293-95 Shri Ramavatar ShasLrt 297-3(4
Matters Under Rule 377--
( ) Reported un,atisfactory telephone service m certain towns in Madhya Pradesh:
Shri Satyanarayan Jatiya
(ii) Reported late running of Nilachal super fast train :
Shri Brajamohan Mohanty 304
,.... (iii) Reported token strike by the Delhi Universi1y Karamacharis Shri Ramavatar Shas,r
*The Sign +marked above 'he name of a Member indica·es °that the question was actually asked on the floor of the House by t�at member. (ii)
COLUMNS (iv) Need for immediate supply of cement in Barmer district of Rajasthan : Shri Virdhi Chander Jain 305 306 ( v) fi:otection to Indian fishermenfrom poaching foreignvessels : Shri K.T. Kosalram (v.i) Reported mo�tat,iono.f a <,yo.m3:nby G;.R.P. ';\�Ki�h<1;�ganj,�yi�i: : Shri D.L Baitha.
D;emands forGrants (Gs:9:er�t)., 198o:81 Minis�ry of Extei:t;1�lAffa.ii::� 19�·104 .,.,,...,... Shr� �����'?Eal�iro 308-2? Shri Madhavrao Scindia 32c-26 Shri Satyasadhan Chakraborty 32 6-35 Shri Shivraj V. Patil 335-4r Shri Harish Chandra Singh Rawat 342-47 Shri Yeshwantrao Cl;\avan 347-6') Shri R.L. f\hatia • ' j ._ ; I ,� 360-67 Shri M. Satyanarayan Rao 367-78
Shri Indraj.it Gupta 378-91 Shri Ajitsinh Dabhi 391-98 - Shri Shivkumar Singh Thakur 398-�03 Shri Chitta Basu 404
Re. 1-J;a,lf ai;\ �o�r. Uiscussion • LOK SABHA DEBATES
2 LOK SABHA MR SPEAKER: I have not allowed him. Since he is persisting, everybody persists. No, no. (Interruptions) Tuesday, July 8, 19^0/Asadha 17, 1902 (Saka) MR SPEAKER: I havcf vJisanowed it. Nothing doing. I never allowed you to do it. I have disallowed it (Interruptions) The Lok Sabha met at Eleven of the Clock MR. SPEAKER: This is not the way [Mr . Spe a k e r in the Chair}. to conduct the House. This is your House and you have to be careful. You have to be responsible. I am not ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS allowing it. Please leave it with the Chair to decide. MR. SPEAKER: Question No. 428. (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER; When j am standing, SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: Sir, I you are not supposed to stand. Why gave you a notice for suspension of don’t you have the courtesy enough to rule to discuss. ____ be silent. Please be silent. You must conduct this House in an orderly man- MR. SPEAKER: Not allowed; I did ner. This House has to be run by not give my consent to that___ certain rules and precedents. Now you don’t listen to me. Dinen Bhattachar- SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: My sub- ya. No, no, you should not do it. (In- mission is----- (interruptions). terruptions). This House has to be guided by certain rules and proce- MR. SPEAKER: Not allowed___I dure. (Interruptions) Again Mr. am not allowing anything. Please take Basu, you are doing it. (Interruptions) your seata^ I am not going to be intimated like that. (Interruptions) I am going to be (w rm ) smj; $ guided solely by the rules. I am trying ^ crro grPT 11 (wratJr)1.. to run this House in the best possible way. But if you do not help me in that | fane wre sp^ | ...... STPT #5 I #5 3|T*# I. . and do not cooperate with me what w ill snr wrt sfrr t s . . . *rpr#faft .... people think about all of us? You just t ifr f i («mn ) ...... mq* remember that you have some responsi- ^ ^tpt 11 wot* ) 4 w g fax *ft bility. You can discuss anythng you m ___ tfznr itft *T?f gfa*, like but under the rules. I am allowing * $>ff zvr; $ *r not. (Interruptions) I disallow it. Yes. quarters of Barmer District, for the Shrimati Ram Dulari Sinha. (In- benefit of the public of Barmer and terruptions) No, no, I do not allow it. Jais^lmer, border districts of Rajas- than has been under the consideration SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: I am on a of Government for a long time and if point of order. (Interruptions). so, since when it has bean under con- sideration; and MR, SPEAKER; I do not allow point of order during the Question H6ur (b) the time by which decision will There *s no question 0f arty point of be taken on this proposal and the order during Question Hour. work to set up the* station will be started? SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: I am rais, ing a point 0/ order. {ftr HSTTOT 3 TTWT MR. SPEAKER: Suspension of rules: (afara** fogr): (*r) tfk (sr). Rule 388 says, “A ny member may, with *r tfh. % vrvrwvfr t h e consent of the Speaker, move that f t w m i % srecrrsr 5«ft "ifrsR!" any rule may be suspended in its appli i98o~85 f t srrfa f t *ffrRT cation to a particular motion before the % 3TRrr*ft ^ j o t froT fa*rr House and if the motion is carried the 1 cmf'T, wmirti % strt^t srV srftsr rule in Question shall be suspended for snrafroarmt % ?>=ft v&wft t h e time being.” I have not allowed 5hrth* f t ritf ^rr qfT i that. So, there is no question.... wjt TO rWT SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: Have vou % Wtift % fatT rpgp ^fgrft read that out? We want to adjourn m qT^t zfRffT *T 5Tt«ft>if5r «TT the House. (Interruptions) fn err fern w 1 «tt tfh: grarcft f^rr t o t 1 MR. SPEAKER: No, no, there is no 4 f fa? tt^ question of point of order during Ques- fm ^ Ti'wfi cm fares tion Hour. (Interruptions) Why are |tt f^r | sft? ^ *fy % rftr f t you trying to do it? I have to do it. (In- ^fTtrmr stpt cr«rr *n>?r If f t art | terruptions) No, no, during Question 5TFTT % 3F5T cnfT W 3 faff Hour, it is not allowed. Now you are speaking without my permission. I have not allowed. Yes. Shrimati Ram sfomt tw fFTTTt r^ T : snTTST Dulari Sinha. (Interruptions) If you fe^rr | % zfmr wh ®s)r afnprr^t are going to show like that, does it ^ fcrwf % f?r^ srrfn*r- make any difference? (Interruptions) w fr ^rr %5jr **rr t o i «rr I could not expect this thing from a *RTTERf % ’EHTR’ % ^TT^r tr^TT parliamentarian of your stature. (In- % I * Trr^T vt terruptions) I have discussed it so ^ Wcrr^TT ^r^fr g f^r 1971 many times in this House (Interrup- % *r “A proposal for setting up a 50 kw (a) steps taken by Government to shortwave transmitter at Jaipur has put to’ better use l&rge gypdum did* charged from Cochin Division of F6fc’- been included in the revised 6th plan 1980—85. This shortwave transmitter tiliser Chemicals Travancore Limited for manufacturing ammonium sulphate will be able to provide day and which is very much needed as a ferti- night second grade service to the lizer; whole of Rajasthan including border districts of the state. Implementa- (b) whether Government also pro- tion of this scheme however de- pose to take steps to use the' calcium pends upon final approval and carbonate bye-product, arising out Of availability of resources.” the above process of making gypsum into ammonium sulphate, for produc- m fwgfljfe A *pmrfr f? fa ing cement; and *rzvr ¥f wwr ft srrtft t 1 (c) whether any steps have been taken to set up such a plant’ «fr t pt t qT^r^r^nfl %^r THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, *ftapr % «r t *rraR f ? *ft CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS ’Tnx tor ssif *rm ^ f%*rr | (SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL): (a) fe r- f% srrsSft: qft tfrm foci^ft | 1 ^ tfftn tilizers and Shemcals Travancore Ltd. Hr *Pr tfm* | ??>rr^{f (FACT) had submitted to Government * (b) and (c). in view of the answer Plant. Gypsum is produecd elsewhere, given to part (a}, these do not arise. wherever phosphatic fertiliser is being produced In Cochin, this is the SHRI A A. RAHIM: In view of the problem because a huge quantity is heavy shortage of fertiliser and cement, being dumped there. First they came is Government contemplating any step with the proposals in Auffust 1978 and to try out unconventional methods of thfe proposalS^afte^'Sfeunination in the producing these items as mentioned in Ministry were not (found feasible the question? Therefore, we have asked the Company to work out an alternative and about SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL: The the alternatives also as I have iust now question is about utilisation of gypsum replied, alternatives are beinff consider* which is being dumped now. For every ed by the Company and after getting tonne of fetflizer that is produced in their proposal we will consider that fur- that factory it generates fi/e tonnes of ther. gypsum. So a huge quantity of gypsum is dumped there. Though the question 1978-83 * fwja 3WTW V TOT is how best we can utilise gyrsunwn order to produce ammoniam sulphate “h or Cement, so far as the proposal for *431. : utilisation of gypsum which is dumped sft fco qo TTCTC : there is concerned, two proposals are under active consideration of the Com- pany. fo : (1) Setting up 900 tonnes per day (tf) 1978-83 ifm T % ammonium sulphate Dlanl by conver- faWr % % fan facPTI faslfTff ting the entire gypsum which is fozn wr | ; being dumped there. (*§r) 1978-83 flTVR (2) Setting up a plant to convert the entire gypsum into cement. W^ri *TT^r 5T?T I ; These two proposals are being consi- (*r) % trfV'jTT*r yfa, dered by the Company. They have not «rh: srfassFft % % come to the Government with a concrete proposal. When they come with con- crete proposal, then the Government (*r) zfrsrTT if Proffsrar will consider. 5TRT ir TOTP 5 TCT m afT ^ I tffT d rtlW ft sq’lTT W TI ? SHRI B. R. NAHATA: The non. Minister said in his answer that the THE M ftttSTfi^G F STATE IN THE Government of India turned down the MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI VIK- RAM MAHAJAN): (a) to (d). A state- proposals 0f the compan/ on lechno- economic grounds. What were the ment is laid on the Table of the House. technical defects or the economic pro- Statement blems? Has the Government of India considered the aspect that such a huge (a) A draft Five Year Plan for quantity has to be utilised some how or 1978—83 had been prepared which en- the other? Is there any scheme being visaged increase in the annual total prepared by the Government of India? energy generation from about 99 bil- lion units in 1977-78 to 168 billion units SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL: I have during 1982-83. However, the plan said, it is not for the Government to is being re-cast for the period 1980—85. prepare a scheme. It is for the Com- pany to prepare' a scheme. It is not as (b) a»d (c). The energy shortage in if gypnua is only in Cochin Phase II the country during the year 1978-79 and 9 Oral Answer* ASADHA 17, 1903 (SAKA) Oral Answer« io 1979-80 was 10.3 per cent and 18.1 per to take similar detailed project plans cent respectively. The power shortage and monitoring systems. The cons- has, therefore, necessitated cuts/res- truction of power projects in the trictions on various categories of con- country is also closely monitored and sumers, including industry and agri- coordinated by the Central Electri- culture. While all possible efforts have city Authority an m m xtm (1) Formation of task forces to TT I cT 5n^T-^tvr TT Tf evolve and implement Betterment aH? far T T ^ t I Programmes and streamline mainte- nance management to maximise : A ^T5T ^t TO T^T generation from the existing instal- if I Tsft Tt «ri far *nw if led capacity in the Central Sector. w w r i The State Governments are al^o bring assisted to similarly maxi- w r m f? f a m * f t t t x k mise generation from their installed SIS TT TT*ft f a «TT fntfT *T capacity. t t f s n f t T $ s r r a r r t t f a ^ r - ? cTr?H TT flT I (2) Expediting commissioning of SHRI VIKRAM MAH A JAN: Iif my new generation capacity in the Cen- reply to the main question, T ^ d giver tral Sector and advising the States the details of the measures # being I t'MU' JitlU II Oral Answers 6, l$Jb Oral Answers <2 taken, These are g iy ^ jn (<^ «fc.|ny ing toj expedite the construction 90 statement, , If you .want, s X can, read that they start generation very soon. that out. I have already said that we are taking the following steps: i n f : * Ffrpn: fo*rr $ fr f t I. Formation of task forces to m m ft % «Ar f f^r snft evolve and implement. Betterment r t t pffr ff t ^ wt «tt m Programmer and streamline mainte- $ 1. ^ vfrwt i nance management to maximise i^r | fr faw vi* generation frpm .the existing .instal- tr> Ti«fhr led capacity in the.Qentr^l Se^pr. * frc r* sTfirircr v f ^ s t^ tt $ The State Governments, are} . also |f a $WT ^ tftfHTTT flrTT «TT being assisted to similarly maximise frcM srfcror fr qtfV srrf | ^ *ft generation from their installed capa- ^ fr iniif ^ivd+i fr *p> it arrcft «fV ^ city. rifer % *prar^V arnft for A farstft it srrcft «fr ? q? w\v*t rrfor i f . x2. We are expediting cqmmission- it *Tf f«F3T?ft XT tfVTOfr nffi «TT I W new generation capacity in *fsft ^t trfTO v axirpfi Wvr the Central Sector and advising the fr siqwff .{j r # States to take similar detailed pro- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN SHRI VIKRAM MA1HAJAN: The THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI West Bengal Government has asked VIKRAM MAHAJAN): (a) and (b). for the raising of royalties, but that Amount of royalty on coal to be paid would raise the price of coal approxi- to the Government of West Bengal by mately by Rs. 16 to Rs. 20 per the coal companies is as follows: tonne, incidentally raising the prices Eastern Coalfields Ltd: Royalty dues of other commodities also. There is for the quarters ending 31st Decem- a discussion going on at present. The ber, 1979 and 31st March, 1980 have matter is under consideration, and we been paid in full. will take a decision very soon on this. B h a r a t Coking C o a l L td .: Dues Major and Medium irrigation Projects upto 1979 have been cleared. For the of Tribal Sub-Plan Area of Orissa „ quarter anding March, 1980, Rs. 4,78,157.50 is due which is expected to *434. SHRI GIRXDHAR GOMAN- be paid very shortly. GO: : Will the Minister of IRRIGA- TION be pleased to state: As the amount equal to the royalty is added to the pithead price of coal (a) the major and medium irriga- and collected from the consumers, • tion project reports of tribal sub-plan there are some delays involved in col- areas of Orissa still pending for clear- lecting the amount and depositing the ance by Central Water Commission; same with the State Government. (b) the reasons for delay in clear- SHRI BASUDEV ACHARYA: The ance of the reports of the projects by Minister has stated in his reply that the Central Water Commission, jf any; only Rs. 4,78,157.60 is due but accord- ing to the Government of West (c) the names of the projects likely Bengal, the amount lying with the to be cleared by the Central Water Central Government as royalty is Commission for inclusion in the cur- much more than what has been stated rent financial year; and here. It is about Rs. 13 crores. So, (d) the projects ready for clearance will the Minister kindly clarify the for next financial year, if any? position? SHRI VIKRAM MAHAJAN: There THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION is a dispute over certain amounts. (SHRI. KEDAR PANDAY): (a) to For example, the West Bengal Gov- (d). A statement is laid on the table ernment wants royalty also on the of the Sabha. consumption of coal in the coalfields themselves. That comes to about Rs. (a) The new major and medium 30 lakhs per annum. The legal ooi- irrigation projects in the tribal Sub- nion given to us is that it is not due, plan area of Orissa, received from the but the West Bengal Government State Government, and which are y et does not agree. West Bengal is also to be cleared by the Planning Com- claiming another sum of Rs. 4 crores. mission, are as follows: These are only minor items. So far as my information goes, an amount of Major Projects Rs. 13 crores is not due as mentioned (i) Bhimkund multipurpose pro- by the hon- Member. ject. SHRI BASUDEV ACHARYA: May X know whether the Central Govern- (ii) Subemarekha Irrigation ment have received representations Project. from the West Bengal Government (iii) Irrigation Project. regardiner the raising of royalty on coal, whether any decision has been Medium Projects taken to increase the! same, and if so, the details Ihereof? (i) Badanala irrigation project. Oral Answers ASADJtiA 17, 1VU3 (SAKA) Oral Answers l& (b) Comments on the Bhimkund SHRI KEDAR PANDAY: This project were forwarded to the State question is related to four important Government in September, 1975 and projects, thre^ major ones and one tne replies were received in July, 1976 medium, and it is related to the clear- and February, 1977. Since then fur- ance of these projects by the Planning. ther clarifications were sought from Commission. the State Government and some addi- tional investigations, particularly with The quideline is that we have got regard to the power component were certain projects for the tribal areas. also found necessary. The revised This is related to Orissa where there is report was received in the Central a tribal area. We have got so many Water Commission only on 24-6-1980 projects going on. Nearly 14 projects and is presently under examination. are under execution already in the The comments on the Subernarekha tribal area. 9 project were sent to the State Go- In addition to these 14 projects, vernment in February and Septem- these four projects are being exa- ber, 1979 and on the Xb Irrigation mined. There has been delay and the project in December, 1979 and March, delay is due to the fact that the State 1980. The replies to these comments Governments did n°t respond in time. are yet to be received from the State Government. The Badanala project The major projects are Bhimkund report was received in March, 1980 Multi-purpose project, Subernarekha only and has been examined. Com- Irrigation Project, Xb Irrigation Pro- ments have been sent to the State ject and one medium project, the Government in June, 1980, replies to Badanala Irrigation Project. These which are yet awaited. projects have not received. Clear- ance from the Planning Commission. (c) and (d). The projects can be The Central Water Commission has considered for clearance by the plan- sent the projects to the State Govern- ning Commission after the technical ment for comments. Thev did not and economic feasibility of the projects respond in time. Hence there *s 30- are satisfactorily established. The lay. We are taking prompt action clearance of the projects, therefore, to see that these projects are taken depends upon the response from the up and we get the clearance from the State Government in furnishing the Planning Commission so that w? may replies and]or complying to the com- execute these projects. ments of the Central Water Commis- sion and deputing the concerned offi- SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO: The cers for discussions of the outstanding hon. Minister, while replying, read points and providing clarifications, as out a statement. But I asked necessary. a specific question as to whether the Government of India have issued the SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO: I guidelines to the State Governments have gone through the statement. It including the State Government of seems the Ministry has not examined Orissa regarding the irrigation deve- the project of the Government of lopment projects in tribal areas. This Orissa which has been sent for clear- has not been answered. ance to the Planning Commission. He has not mentioned which are the pro- Now, I ask the second supplement- jects under the tribal sub-plan and ary. There is the Badanala Irrigation which are outside of it. I would like Project which has been mentioned here. to know from the hon. Minister whe- It was started in 1961-62. It is now ther they have issued any quidelines 1980. That project has not been clear- to the States to prepare master plans ed. 19 years have already passed. So for the tribal areas and if so. what are far the Government of Orissa ha# not th* guidelines, and the names of the sent a proper reply to .the Government States which have responded to them. of India though a number of timesm a Oral "Aiistoers JtlLTS, aw Oral Answers 20 q^uiiyhsi& Seen sent & fee Gbvern- jf $p«r SSpx Vt ik & St mejif.t o| India to the Otjjissk Govern* vt fwtfkcr w r ^ meht,( Kecehtfy, the. Government of $ ? India has written fco the State Govern- ment of Orissa to setid comments on : Vrf the project. The project report was •jffj ^ smrr | sfk zhW arp Wtct Storing Arrangement af Oil and smft £ . . (snron*) . . . Natural Gas Commission at Bombay mm eir*£ qfs*i ? 435. SERI K. LAKKAPPA: Will the Minister of , PETROLEUM AND . «ft ¥*o»l>o zxi^af : $ TO CHEMICALS be pleased to state: j i 4 i* § (a) wftetlier , 5ir:aftd ^at^ral /Gas Commission have not enough storage jfrMJffI. #,Jfe arrangements &>r storing &eir gooSs vr t qrr?r vnnr %r$fr $ farr i^ioA W; i i Oral Answers ASADhA. fr, ls6H OSAKA) dntl Answers i i «>'• >S‘ jfi 11 . * > f , yirhethfr due to l^ck of storage tqr. all the items of ONGC at Bombay. capacity, they have to pay lot of tfe- Ttiereiore I would like to know whe- jnurrage on yarious counts, and if sQ, ther it is a fact that the answer given full details thereof for the last three by the Hon. Minister is wrong and the years; ONGC officers have briefed the Minis- ter wrongly. I would like to know the (c) whether some private parties demjrrage paid as a consequence of have sent offers to provide accommo- the shortage of storage facilities at dation on reasonable basis and if so,, Bombay. Lakhs of rupees have been ■details thereof; paid. Will the Minister conduct a probe into the matter as to how much demu- (d) the reasons for paying demur- rrage has been paid by them, how they rage when suitable accommodation has have augmented, in th to know since how long this has been wft qfa* q*o qiro qo wm : $ *r?*far going on and who are those private $ srmr r*rr fr parties and whether those private faff fr £ »fh: parties are related to the officers con- cerned who are taking this on lease or nfrr sfrr t ? whatever negotiations they are making. < f T f e ? r : 3 # W ’ f r 3W 1C Even that negotiation has been deli- forr fr fawr f isso berately delayed to avoid some people Sf, srrc 3ft «rr^ and to favour some other people by Tm sfsr frfR $ 8 wtflr ^ the ONGC. ^ fr*n ig t few t Therefore, I would like to know from 16 h the hon. Minister how much demur- ert# x m 1 $ rages were piid on account of other fr* trs vv&zyz | reasons ana also at what particular rnfo Ssfto $ V&T i f f a m point are these negotiations regarding rwftlZX f, storage facilities and when they will Tmvzx t qsfqfqrcffiw wrfrarc be concluded. S 1 w ffr f w n $r t £ fr is *$3 h #iftr^Ti'RT SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL: The „ ^ T% i \ T*wV mf'W vw hon. Member wants to know how ^ 1 1 much demurrage has been paid. In the year 1977-78, the demurrage oaid SHRI A. T. PATIL: In his reply the was Rs. 2,14,054; in the year 1978-79 Minister has said that in order to ease the demurrage paid was Rs. 6,42,947; the storage conditions, the ONGC is in the year 1979-80, it was Rs. 3,30,762. going with the construction of a supply This was the demurrage paid during base at Nhava island. May I know the last three years. whether the government has ordered a stay of the construction of the supply The hon. Member has asked how base at Nhava island? If so, will they many parties have offered and whe- vacate the stay? ther these private parties are relatives of those officers who are negotiating SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL: There with them. So far as my knowledge is no question of issuing a stay order. goes, according to the information that On the other hand, the work is going is available with me, out of 24 parties, on briskly. We have already incurred 16 parties have responded t and nego- an expenditure of Rs. 6.54 crores upto tiations are going on. They have not June 1980. The total expenditure is yet taken any final decision. As soon estimated at Rs. 22 crores and there is as they take a final decision, I would no question of issuing a stay order. We be in a position to say what are the are going ahead. parties who have offered, and whose offers have been accepted. MR. SPEAKER: Next question___ No. SHRI GULSHER AHMED: I just wanted to know the reasons for pay- Next question—Shri Ramavatar ment of the demurrage. I do not know Shastri. whether they can give us ^he reasons SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL: I have m WRfnr » got the information. The reasons in 4- 1977-78 were on account of non-avai- * 437. tmwwr* : lability of documents, on account of non-availability of import licence; in s ft * m ro s 1978-79, on account of non-receipt of documents and non-availability of im- wr faftJ, ntm r STrTT^ ^rr *T$rfr: port licence; m 1979-80 on account of availability of shipping documents (*) «rtt TOR & mt non from the suppliers, banks, etc. qfptf «tt f*f>f^ $ frtrr Ora! Answers ASADHA 17, 1902 (SAKA) Ordl Answers a6 (w) «rfa & at m to r tt # SHRI GULAM RASOOL fair vr fsnrr t ; iftx KOCHACK: What was the basic objective to be achieved by the con- (*r). $t, eft w ^ jreiTfar stitution of this committee? vr?f w t f ? (2) Also simultaneously has not the Sachar Committee recommended THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUS- amending the MRTP Act? TICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRIMP. SHIV SHANKER): (a) Thirdly, I want to know whether to fcj. The recommendations of the this proposed/amendment has cover- High-Powered Expert Committee ed the private companies as also the (Sachar Committee) in regard to the foreign companies in o&r country. 'amendment of the Companies Act, 1956 are under examination and Gov- SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER: Mr ernment’s active consideration. When Speaker, Sir, the hon. Member and this examination is completed, a Bill the House are aware that after the would be introduced in Parliament. # 1956 enactment, twelve amendments to the Companies Act were effected upto the Act of 1977. It was felt that having regard to the change in the forc | far % f c r t t $ industrial situation of the country as f m TK KVRX fa^TT ^ ^ | i sir also the economic growth, the various 3tv?t % ^ ^ f w xt % provisions required reconsideration. far w*rc fvft# fW *rf | It was with this objective that in vra 3>ft, * «Pt£ ftrcnfw eft tot the year 1977 the Committee was «tpt ^rr far 3«t ftrerfrtff t % constituted to propose the amendments snj|* t ot f ? in the Companies Act. I agree with the hon. Member that SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER: Some the amendments were also propos- of the important recommendations ed by the Committee with reference that have been made by the Sachar to the M.R.T.P. Act. So far as the Committee are: (1) regarding the question of the hon. Member with deletion of obsolete provisions with regard to the private limited com- reference to the Managing Agency, panies is concerned, it is true that (2) simplification of the winding up the Sachar Committee has also made proceedings, (3) workers participa- recommendations regarding the tion in the management of the com- change in the concept and certain panies, so on and so forth. amendments that are to be made in so far as the Companies Act ig con- rmnrarc wrrart: sm A cerned with reference to the private ^T^TT % fa> TOT ^ ST* cRT limited companies. I feel that sub- ftpfrr xx %% *>r fa^n: Tsrcft tot to ttt ject to the ingenuity of the human $ vtf srtht | ? mind, all such malpractices could be checked. SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER: The SHRI NIREN GHOSH: May I know . amendment of the Companies Act is from the hon. Minister whether the related to the industrial development Committee has considered the tigh- of a country as also the economic tening up further the provisions of growth. The various economic Mini- the M.R.T.P. Act on the concept of stries have got to be consulted and I management? What exactly are the can assure the hon. Member that at Committee's recommendations and the earliest opportunity we will take whether elect workers would be a decision and come forth with the on the board of directors on equal amendments. terms and in sufficient xfumber. ritten ns ers 2 2 r rters L. 1 1 ti ) SI . S IV S N Sir I and the ond that it had no oten have aread said that the o ittee tia . The ihar overn ent has a so has reco ended the a end ents iven s no ro osa re ardin these re ardin the ..T. . ct. So ar as rivers. t to satis the hon. e the estion o the orkers artici ber I i ask the entra overn ation is concerned the have hed ent eart ent to have s rve ed in their reco endations b sa done. in that in certain conditions the orkers artici ation in the ana e ent that is ith re erence to the a oint ent o the directors has ot ITT N NS S T S to be taken . TI NS Iakin over o vario s oncerns b eneration o ectricit ro i siness oses ain ed ivers 3. S I S 30. S I S. . IS N i the inister o L STI t inister o N Y N L be eased to state N NY I S be eas ed to state (a) hether overn ent have an ro osa to eherate e ectricit ro (a) hether overn ent s attention the rain ed risers s ch as n n has been ra n to the ne s ite iardha and a in ihar and The ono o a e a earin in the India Toda ( a 1 31) iss e (b) hat ste s have been taken in re ardin the scra be o bi b siness this direction ho ses to take over vario s concerns and T INIST ST T IN T INIST Y N Y (S I VI N) (a) No Sir. (b) i so overn ent s reaction thereto (b) oes not arise. T INIST L S t T T ST IT cT TI N NY I S tsr T orr s t ttst r tr V (S I . S IV S N ). (a) t 3 cr o rr rr Yds Sir. rb t nsr r vr s t r arr Tr r tvct vs (b) State ent i aid on the Tab e o the Lok Sabha. T1 I t t i r i rtr Tt nr T ts Vti ST Tt t cT Tt ar State ent Trr rrr i ire i TTiT 3T T Tt rr TTI T n ro osa or rchase o con srie T. TT rs V TT tro in interest b re istered/re is rr srt Vt rcr ar trab e ndertakin s nder the tt str c. rr rr ..T. . ct 1 re ires rior a nt r s Trr i r rova o the entra overn ent ST tTt Tt IT T T nder s bsection ( ) o Section 23 n Ti t TT .rrr I i o that ct and in certain cases s ch r Tt T t Ta TT ro osa a a so re ire a rova T r nder Section 10 () and 3 2( ) o the o anies ct 1 . or rchase S I VI N e o shares in one co an b another have t te entra ater and o er in e cess o 10 er cent o the shares ioon hich had s rve ed that o the investee co an er ission Written Answers ASADHA 17,1902 (SAKA) Written Answers 29 f\k invW v H / r under Section 372 of the Companies Production of Plastic Resins from Act is recfuirled. So fir hti api#icatioii }Ar‘ ’ Bombay ftffii Gas ',,T, 'M has been received by takeover or purchase of shares of the said com- *436. SHRI K. P. SINGHDEO: Will panies, under any of the provisions the Minister of PETROLEUM AND of M.R.T.P. Act Companies Act. CHEMICALS be pleased to state: (a) whether the Bombay off-shore News Item Captioned “Coal Worth gas can be utilised for production of Rs. 1.5 million seized” plastic resins; (b) if so, whether any scheme has *433. SHRI S. M. KRISHNA: Will been formulated for such utilisation; the Minister of ENERGY AND COAL and be pleased to state: (c) if so, the details thereof? (a) whether his attention has oeen ’ s ' \ invited to the news item captioned THE MINISTER OF PETROUEUM, “Coal worth Rs. 1.5 million seized” CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS appearing in the ‘Times ox India’ New (SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL): (a) Yes, Delhi, dated the 15th June, 1980; Sir. (b) if so, how this coal was smug- (b) Yes? Sir. gled from the coalfields; (c) It is proposed to set up two gas (c) whether any high-level enquiry crackers based on the off-shore gas has been ordered into this affair; if for production of petro-chemical pro- so, the outcome thereof, and ducts including plastic resins. (d) what steps have been or are proposed to be taken to prevent such large-scale thefts of coal occurring in New Fertiliser Plants future? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE *439. SHRI ARJUN SETHI: Will the MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI VIK- Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHE- RAM MAHAJAN): (a) Yes, Sir. MICALS be pleased to state: (b) and (c). According to informa- (a) whether Government propose to tion received from the coal companies, instai some new fertiliser plants in the there has been no smuggling o±" coal country; from collieries A detailed report from the Government of B ih a r in regard to (b) if so, the details regarding their this matter is still awaited. Decision location and what would be the total in regard to an inquiry would be taken capital outlay thereon; j j I after a detailed report is received from the Government of Bihar. (c ) whether negotiations have been completed with foreign countries in (d) The following measures have this fcegard; and been taken to prevent theft of coal:- (d) if so, the names of the foreign (1) security guards are provided countries and firms from whom im- at every coal depot for keeping ports will be made regarding the plant and technology for the proposed ferti- liser units? (2) proper fencing and lighting to coal depots in the collieries. THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, (3) transfer of staff posted in sen- CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZES sitive positions from one placs to jgEfW VEE^ENPRA fA^IU: (a) Yes, Hnolifeer, a£ p^ripfUcal ip t^ a ls . Written Answers JULY 8, 1980 Written AnstOers 3« (b) The details of the projects approved by Govt, are given below S.No. Name of the plant Location Capital Outlay (Rs. crores) 'I. Thai Vaishet ProjectJ . Kolaba District Maharashtra 511 * 34 a. Hazira Projcet . Surat District Gujarat 622 9 3. Namrup III Project . Namrup, Assam 168■43 (c) and (d). The foreign exchange to s o lv e energy crisis through biomass requirements of the Thai Vaishet pro- conversion; and ject will be met largely from the World (b) if so, details thereof? Bank and U. K. credits and those of the Hazira Project from the World Bank, UK and Japanese Credits. The THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND foreign exchange requirements of Nam- COAL (SHRI A. B. A GHANI KHAN rup III project are being met from CHAUDHURY): (a) and (b). A UK credit supplemented by free foreign comprehensive review of the energy exchange. An agreement has been sign- situation to develop a prespective for ed with the World Bank for loan as- development of the energy sector and sistance to cover upto $250 million to recommend appropriate policy mea- exchange requirement of the Thai Via- sures for optimal utilisation of availa- shet Project. The equipments financed ble energy resources had been under- under World Bank credit would be im- taken by a Working Group under the ported on the basis of international Chairmanship ot the Secretary of the Competitive Bidding (ICB). The bila- Department of Power. The Working teral credits viz. UK and Japanese Group submitted its report in Novem- credits are meant for covering imports ber, 1979. From the review of the from the lending countries. energy situation for the next two de- cades presented by the Working Group Fertilizers (Planning Development) it is clear that conventional energy India Ltd. would be the engineering sources will have to be developed to contractor for Namrup III Project. A meet the energy requirements of the decision is yet to be taken on the se- country and also a better management lection of the ammonia contractor :’or and availability of non-commercial en- Thai and Hazira Projects. After obtain- ergy such as fuel-wood, fire-wood and ing clearance from indigenous angle, vegetable waste would be required, as agreements have been entered into non-commercial energy will continue with M/s. Foster Wheelej^ Power Pro- to play an important role in the energy ducts Ltd. UK for the import of steam use pattern of the people. generation plants for both Thai and Hazira Projects. Biomass conversion also "has possi- bilities and several conversion routes Solution of Energy Crisis through are being researched. The choice of the Biomass Conversion Bio-conversion routes is dictated by the physical nature of the material, its *440. SHRI KRISHNA CHANDRA techno-economic viability and environ* HALDER: Will the Minister of mental benefits. ENERGY AND COAL be pleased to ■statu The technology of bio-gas produo* tion from animal dung is fairly well (a) whether there is any proposal developed and a programme to popu- 'Under the consideration of Government larise bio-gas plants on the basis of 3 3 Written Am )trs ASADHA 17,1902 (SAKA) Written Answers 34 technology {las been undertak- between 1-1-80 to 31-5-80; facts in m tt® present strategy is to encou- details; a v e larje 1)!6-gas unlts WTOeh are Sttnmmcally viable. Considerable (b) whether it is a fact that shortage f Mgrew has been achieved in the of raw material is the major bottleneck 0 dffiiaatioA of organic waste, and pilot in the running f the new diesel based 9 H®bc£b to set up viable family size plant; ti»~gas plants have also been taken (c) whether this difficulty is likely op. Several community bio-gas to remain as a permanent one; plamtfl of larger size are under cons- truction at selected locations. Over (d) if so, do Government propose to TOQ00 bio-gas plants have already renovate the old coal baseA plant of l«Q set up in thecountry. Sindri; and ftp * fctrrncwSi (e) if not, reasons therefor? *141. ?WTT HT|fV : WT THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, T s r w i r e f t amT% *f?V y q i * CHEMICALS AND FERTILIERS (SHRI : VEERENDRA PATIL): (a to (c). The ammonia plants of the old Sindri Unit («p) VTT fsffTT TR* % fa^T did not operate during the period 1.1.80 j® FTT'T’T? «RT to 31.5.80. The plants had been closed qpp 5f^Rrr * st ^ ttt % fa*nTrgfa I ; by July 1979 as they were uneconomic and unsafe to operate. (g ) wr eft^T fqrr^i % fav farWr ^ t t | f ; The ammonia plant of the new unit ifrr at Sindri, namely, the Sindri Moderni- sation plant, also did not operate dur- (it) sfc ^r, ?fr to ttt ^rr fa^TR ^ ing most of the above period. The plant ^rc Tg sprTsnft ^ Fsrmr ^sr ^ ^ft | ? had to be shut down on the evening of 16th January ^ 1980 due to stock out of OTHflf erh w * *ra> (*ft Fuel Oil/LSHS feedstock. The shut- (*T) tet-WST* % % fc# (d) and (e). The old Coal-based t o t ?nrr^ % f?rfr w r ^pnr tffafrraT *tT2*t plants of Sindri were closed down as ^ * rf t 1 *T*Tefi vt *nrr^ % p tr % they had outlived their normal life t ^rfTrTcPflf frcfrifa^ and were unsafe and uneconomic to f w snifrTr 1 operate. The question of renovating the plants does not, therefore, arise. Production of Ammonia j,y Sindri Fertilizer Plant Foreign Oil Companies *442. SHRI A. K. ROY: Will the *443. SHRI G. Y. KRISHNAN: Will 'Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHE- the Minister of PETROLEUM AND MICALS be pleased to lay a statement CHEMICALS be pleased to st^te: allowing: (a) whether Government have re- (a) the number of days the Sindri ceived any information that, the for- ^fertilizer plant (both old and the new) eign oil companies are still operating ■dually worked to produce ammonia in India in one form or another; 33QS L s— 35 Written Answer* JULY 8, 1980 Written Answers (b) if so, what are the details in Rs. 47,52,341.50 respectively net • £ this regard; and taxes by way of dividened. .(c) the annual profit they havt re- patriated during the last two years? (iii) Net dividend repatriated fm& respect of MRL is: THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS (SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL): 1978-79 1979-** (a) Presumably, the Hon. Member wislhes tothave information on equity Rs. Km, holding by foreign oil companies in AMOCO 18,82,9 m' the enterprises with which the Depart- • *5>69>092 ment of Petroleum is concerned. NIOC . • i5>69>n92 i8,8*,gi©» (b) The details are as follows: (i) In Madras Refineries Ltd., th^ National Iranian Oil Co., Iran and AMOCO India Inc. in U.S.A. are Open Cast Mines 1b Eastern CbaUIeMbs equity-share hoIders to the extent Limited of 43 per cent each, the rest being ' held by the Central Government. *444. SHRI DINEN BHATTA- (ii) In Cochin Refineries Ltd., Phi- CHARY A: Will the Minister off llips Petroleum Company U. S. A. ENERGY AND COAL be pleased to> ! holds 36.43 per cent of the equity state: capital; 52.83 per cent is held by the Central Government and the balance (a) number of open cast mines open- by Government of Kerala, LIC, UTI, ed or proposed to be opened by Eas- GIC and the public. tern Coalfields Ltd.; (iii) In Oil India Limited, Burmah (b) the details thereof; and oil Co., U.K. has 50 per cent share holding, the balance being held by (c) the annual target of prcducticeb the Central Government. in those mines? (iv) Assam Oil Company Ltd., a THE MINISTER OF ENERGY" sterling company registered in the AND COAL (SHRI A. B. A. GfHAOT U.K., is a wholly-owned subsidiary KHAN CHAUDHURY): (a) to Cc). ! of Burmah Oil Co. and owns and The information regarding Open- operates the Digboi refinery in As- cast mines snactioned and under con- sam. Burmah Oil (India Trading) sideration/planning and their target Co. U.K. Ltd., a sterling company, is annual capacity with refernce to the also wholly owned by Burmah Oil company’s annual plan—1980-81 im Company and it has made available given below:— its marketing assets in north eastern eastern India to Assam Oil Company payment of an agreed rental. (c) (i) Assam Oil Co. Ltd., Burmah I SANCTIONED MINES Target Capacity Oil Company (India Trading) Ltd. and UNDER CONSTRUCTION Burmah Oil Co., Ltd. did not repatria- te anV profits during the last two years. (M . tDBBCl] (ii) For the year ended 31-3-1978 i. Dalurband . «rjr> and 31M-1979 Phillips Petroleum Co. a. Kamardihi Ltd., h» I repatriated Rs. 27,75,090 and Writien Answers ASADHA 17,lfr0i (SAKA) Written Answers in —* mines under consi- d e r a t i o n OF THE 1 2 GOVERNMENT 36, Rajmahal . . . . 5-00 3- We«t Barakar o- 24 4* Bansra .... O' 20 (Likely to achieve 5-Kumarkhela o- 28 target production 6. Ratibati .... o* 16 by 1986-87) 7.Khoodia .... 0-33 8. Purshottampur 0 4 6 IV— MINES UNDER PLANN- Target ING Capacity 9- Chora .... O' 27 10.Kapasara .... O' 30 (m. tonnes) II--RUNNING MINES. *37. Lokottadih . 3*00 11. Dalmiya .... o - 10 38. Nakrakonda 4 00 .... O' 15 12. Daber 39. Jambad 2’ 23 Sangramgarh 0 2 5 *3- 40. Kumarkhala (Ph. II) °* 45 o- 19 14. Mohanpur .... 41. Sahgramgarh 0 8 8 Gourangdih o- 20 15- 42. Badjna O' 50 16. Chotra .... o- 14 43. Gourangdih 0* 50 »7-Kumardhubi o- 16 44. Mandman *’5o 18. Kapasara .... o- 18 Rajpura .... 0 25 *9- Geophysical Survey in Orissa 20. Mandman .... 0* 11 *445. SHRI BRAJA MOHAN MA- 21 .Lakhimata .... O' 18 HANTY: Will the Minister of PET- 22. Khoodia .... 0' 22 ROEUM AND CHEMICALS be pleas- ed to state: 23- Shampur-B .... o- 07 (a) whether Government are under- 24. Nirsha .... o- 13 taking Geophysical Survey in Orissa 25- Hariazam .... 0* 24 coast off shore areas and particularly 26. Badjana .... 0 4 5 Chilik Lake areas; 27. Chapapur-II 0 2 5 (b) has it been brought to the 28. Bonjemehari O' 2$ notice of Union Government that while excavating a tank in Sral village in 29- Nimoha .... 0-06 Krishna Prusad Block, Puri District, kerosene soaked soil was found; and 30. M ohabir .... 0* 16 Si- Parasia .... 0*3 0 (c) whether Government propose to depute a survey party to explore the 32. Ken d a ) m. o - 1® possibility and prospect of oil and gas 33- Bobrana) J in that area? 34. Nabakajaera 0-09 THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, C5. Ghanshyam O* 11 CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS (9HRI VEERJ2NDRA PAT'lL): (a) » 39 Written Answer* JULY $, 1980 Written Anstuert 4o Aeromagnetic and marine seigmic surveys of 12,000 Sq. King. oX Orissa offshore area in Mahanadi Basin, Bay oI Bengal has been carried out Chilka Lake is not included in this Ghaziabad Ghaziabad area. Muzaffamagar . Muzaffamagar Allotment ff t Cooking Gas Agencies Rarrpur . Rampur in Uttar Pradesh Buhndshahar Bulan dshahar *446. SHRI RAM LAL RAHI: Will Moradabad Moradabad the Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS be pleased to state: (b) No, Sir (a) the names of place8 in Uttar Pradesh} (district-wise) where cook- (c) Does not arise. ing gas agencies are proposed> to be allotted during 1980-81 in the context of fuel shortage; Role of Radio and Television in (b) whether applications had been checking Social Crimes invited 'from persons belonging to Scheduled Castes and Scheduled *447. SHRIMATI GEETA MU- Tribes for allotment of cooking gas K^IERJEE: Will the Minister of IN- agencies in some districts of Uttar FORMATION AND BROADCASTING Pradesh under reserved quota but no be pleased to state: decision could be taken thereon after holding interviews; and (a) whether Government are aware that the maas media, particularly the (c) if so, the numbers of such Radio and Television have a special places and when a decision in this role to play for rousing mass cons- respect in likely to be taken? ciousness for prevention of crimes against women such ss rape, dowry THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, etc.; and CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS (SfJRI VEERENDRA PATIL): (a) (b) if so, what plans have been District-wise names of towns in chalked out for discharging that res- Uttar Pradesh where cooking gas ponsibility in the current year? agencies have been proposed to be THE MINISTER OF STATE IN opened by the Oil Industry during THE MINISTRY OF INFORMA- 1980-81 are as under:— TION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI- MATI RAMDULARI SINHA): (a) District Name of town and (b). Both Radio and Television are fully aware of their responsibi- lity to educate the masses against social evils such as atrocities on wo- men, the evils of dowry etc. The va- rious stations and Kendras of All Vgra Agra India Radio as well as Doordarshan Saharaftpur Roorkee, Saharanpur have been regularly putting out pro- grammes in various formats on these Meerut Meerut, Modinaga themes in order to motivate the lis- Hapur * tenersjviewers against such social evils]crimes. These programmes are Written Answer* ASADHA 1V|lM'i&AKA) Written Anwers 4* a part not only of the programme* unit of Antibiotic Fermentation Plant directed to the general public but in West Bengal under the public sac* also of special jpfrogramfo^ meant ttr; 1 for specific audience groups viz. wo- men, children, youth, rural listeners (b) if so, the salient features of and industrial* worker*. the said proposal; and (c) what action, if any, has been taken -by Government on the same? ffijwrm urofhi forow % nmmtff rr THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, CHEMICALS AND FERTlLtZERa *488. rfto Wilt'S : ^TT tjtffHW (SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL): (a) tm THm *rert fr ■ Government have not received any such proposal from the West Bengal (*>) f^tTR ^tt*p fa»r*r tflr Phacfrnaceutical and PhyUcx^hemical Development Corporation. ft q^TT ?mr *tft F*TRT^Trf^T faft «fTT fjrcu $ ; (b) and (c). Do not arise. 1 (sr) *rfc ^r, eft secret sfftr m Thermal Power Stations in the $ «wt t ; Country Tffum *i\x sraft («ft 3307. SHRI SATYA GGPAL mfeff) : (*) (^). m3, 1979 MISRA: Will the Minister of Jr m\ «tt far ENERGY AND COAL be pleased to f^5^r.?r .jfrnft^nr % tgswm state: ., „ «Pt ^^RTtTT f^TT 3TTTT vnrftiFPT *rrn tffiror % (a) State-wise number of thermal f^.T Jr fosft ^Tffcr TT SSTRFcffTcT power stations in the country and fom 1 ' *rc*rrT ^tri^rct their capacity; power station-wise; % % faz gtT g 3ft fa^T- tt*t (c) present stock of coal in each thermal power station? Proposal to set up a Third Unit of Anti-Biotic Fermentation Plant in West Bengal THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI VIKRAM MAHAJAN): (a) *337. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: and (b). Statement I showing the Will the Minister of PETROLEUM State-wise number of coal based AND CHEMICALS be pleased to thermal power stations, their capa- cities and their present monthly re- quirement of coal-station-wise is en- (a) whether West Bengal Pharma- closed. ceutical and Phytochemical Develop- • ment Corporation, a West Berig&l (c) Statement II showing the latest Government Undertaking, had sent stock position at the major thermal a proposal for establishment of third power stations is enclosed. 43 Written Answer JULY ft, 1080 Written Answer* 44 $t*teoMtt Statewise number of coal bated thermal power Station!, their capacities in MW and their present coal requirements-—Stationwise. ‘ SI. No. Name of TPS Capacity (MW) Present monthly requirement of coal (in *ooo* tonnes) X 2 3 4 NORTHERN REGjOX Delhi i. Badarpur • • • . 510 150 fi. DESU (i) Indraprastha . • • 282*5 110 (ii) Rnjghat 28 x5 T^ul 820*5 275 Hanana 3. Faridabad .... 135 50 '4. Panipat .... « • 220 60 Total 355 n o Putjab 5. Bhatinda .... 440 l *5 Small TPS*s . « . 5 Nil Total 445 125 Uttar Prad*sh 6. Harduatranj A 90 Nil* 7. Hardua^anj B&C . . • • 390 140 . Kanpur (RPH; • • . 65 30 . O l * r a ...... « 1150 34° 10. (i) PanVi .... ■ • . 61 30 (ii) PankiExtn. 220 80 11. Kenusagar .... • « la5 90 Small TPS* s *23*5 53 5 t- 4 5 Written Answers ASADHA 17,1902 (SAKA) Written Answer* 46 * 2 3 4 JRqf*sth*n ^Small TPS’s ...... *4 5 13 TTcul: ( N R ) ...... 3869* 5 1385-5 'WESTERN REGION 'Gujarat v s . Ahmedabad . 120 ■3. Bbuvaran *5 (Excl. 1 -54 MW Gas Turbines) 14. Gandhinagar 70 m. 5- Ukai .... 130 Small TPS* s . 7 Total . 35a 'Maharashtra • 272- 5 85 ay. Chola . •••• « ♦ 40 30 K.hapcrkheda • 90 30 1x9. Koradi « • 680 220 s o . Nasik . . • • • • • • 490 l75 21. Paras . • •.••• 92- 5 40 >s. Parli . 60 35 i j . Trombay . 330 nil Small TPS** . * •• * • 18 10 Total : 2073 *>45 Madhya Pradesh » *. Amarkantak;. 300 110 K.orba-1 , • V 100 120 lCa.'oi-Il Sc io.n. . # 32^ • 47 Written AnswersJULY 8, I960 Written Answers I 2 3 4 26. S a t p u r a ...... 5*2-5 *45 T o t a l ...... 1232-5 475 Total : (WR) 5I33-5 *47* SOUTHERN REGION Andhra Pradesh 27. Kothagudem ...... 680 ^ 185 28. (i) Ramagundam A ...... 37-5 * 35 (ii) Ramagundam B ..... 625 29. V i j a w a d a ...... 210 iar* Small TPS*s ...... 40 *0 1030 Tamil Nadu 30. Basin Bridge ...... 90 K 31. Ennore ...... 45° itu 32. Tuticorin ...... 210 6® Total : ...... 750 205 Total : (SR) 1780 54£ EASTERN REGION Bihar 33. Barauni *45 m 3 4 . Patratu ...... 620 Small TPS*s...... 135 3r s Tola): 778-5 Written Antwen ASADHA 1% 1*02 (SAKA) Written Armbert T * 3 i D. V. C. 3 5 . B o k a r o ...... 2 2 7 * 5 6 0 3 6 . Chandrapura ...... 7 8 0 '5 5 3 7 . D u r g a p u r ...... 2 50 6 5 T o ta l: ...... 1257*5 280 Oritsa • 3 8 . Talcher ...... 2 5 0 7 0 West Bengal 3 9 . Bandel ...... 320 70 4 0 . Calcutta ...... 328 1 3 0 4 1 . Durgapur ( D P L ) ...... 2 8 0 75 4 2 . Santaldih ...... 360 8 0 Small TPS’s ...... 24*5 8 Total : ...... 1312‘ 5 3% Total : (ER) 3598 906*5 GRAND T o t a l ...... 14381 4209 Total Number of major TPS in the country—42 Total Number of Small TPS in the country—25 ♦Power house lying closed since 56-4-80 due to fire accidcnt. Statement— II Latest coa] stock position at the major thermal power statiors. SI. No. Name of TPS Present Coal Stock positio11 Tonnes Days Dpie 1 2 3 4 5 EASTERN REGION «5 27-6-80 2. Patratu .... 12 29-6-80 3. Bokato ...... 150052 60 24^6^0 •5' , WrttUfc Anwmt TOLY «, lMft „ Wrttt?* A«n m i » I 2 3 4 5 90045 20 a c S S o 55550 92 27-6-80 63448 3* 28-6-80 7, B a n d e l ...... • 3800 ‘I 30-6-80 14478 3i 28-6-80 75010 37 15-6-80 NORTHERN REGION -11. Badarpur 12622 3 1-7-80 »«2. DESU (i) I. P. Station . . , ». * • , 6872 2 30-6-80 (ii) Rajghat...... 345° 7 28-6-80 *3. Faridabad ..... 20807 21 23-6-80 ^14. P a n i p a t ...... 3253 2 29-6-80 5. B h a t i n d a ...... 441° 1 26-6-80 16. Harduaganj A .... ** — — 17. Harduaganj B & C ...... 25566 6 25-6-60 ,18 K anpur RPH ...... 8235 8 26-6-80 119. (i) Obra A 38553 7 26-6-80 (ii) Obra B ...... 14225 2* 26-6-80 '20. (i) Panki ..... 2492 3*27-6-80 (ii) Panki Extn. .... 4663 2 27-6-80 SOUTHERN REGION 21. Kothagudem ...... 65660 11 28-6C0 22175 17 18-6-8 > 23 Vijawada ...... 54470 2218-6-80 24. E n n o r e ...... t 5p:44 M 1-7-C0 25. Basin Biidget 13256 *3 1-7-80 WESTERN REGION 26. Ahmedabad ...... 34*68 1130-6-80 27. D h ^ v a r a n ...... 8150 10 30-6-80 .38. Gandhinagar ...... 35031 17 30-6-80 .29. U k a i ...... 14006 - 9 C 9 8 1 '£ 9 91 €9 % Jtyus 6 S 9 30 S9 00 ’ 19 [ eb i ob 0^> bbljjb ‘I s € 3 I Sjjfe h i JiBJ^bb kh£±h Ob bbJi^s [ %6L e^o^c^°jyt ^ tb (b b bib JbbL^k blk — : i f , |b 4J> Jaj±tld» jyk 4 b f ik & f i j k Jtjjfe £ lh£k % i^hip ikMt bAJbJkLbJ -lb J*k £Jb ‘LUbJls bt'fcbjb idb % bib % Lite ^ 6£61 'b^lb (bJfellbJ ^ife 4ifeJ £Jb b*ib bJ&tobJ ( * ) bift) Bb|b b %hJit <£ ifc& b i > b ^ ^kltk Sjfe Jb&kJ life 1M $b • i # 4 \lk bjitbh 4£ J*& H& i ^ b b b -U* ^ £ J.H& * AsbJM^Uib |b ) £ bjblb J* Jfcjl ilk ^jjte £fcj bbJJbbJ iak i&tjfr JA Jfcji UtOb o&^-9» o£ ISM ii Bjmdjts § *8^ 08-9*95 9^ qqiLLz • «qjo^ 'Ct o8"9'0* t 6SZi • tfjwj 'gS ofr&yz \ 7|e)ue^jemy * S£ 0ff-9 ~0 £ 9 90 K gBiEJ *t£ ofr&vE 9 960 cc • ^ii«M *££ oq-$-o£ 01 GSoU jp*jox **£- °8-9-o£ 2 £*9* *i& 08-9-o £ Zl oGq€i »p«q^wi«ini ofi t s J^ ow iv (VXVS) £061 #U VHQVSV" tta»pM £9 55 Written Answers JULY 8, 1980 Written Answers 5 * 3. 8 3 .2 6 89.14 7. 05- srzrVnr vft* 4. * rm*m 6 5 . 28 68. 12 4. 35 5Rft*T tftr jnrtatftr (f*%t%fa*t) 5. . 672.00 918.70 36. 71 (**«*) 5T71 3?THR OTT**T ^TrT % CT^ft 3c Scheme Installed Estimated Date of rcceipt Pirsrot status of prnioct re ort capaciiy ccst(Rs. ofreport in crores) 3 Ghatapra bha H> di celctric *’CNW 18.C2 Jije,i9^8 Piojret iepoit exjm irfd in the Project. Central Electricity Authority Central Water Commission and cOrtiments sent to the Project authorities. Replies to the comments on irrigation releases have been received in May, 1980 and are Current- ly under examination. Written Answers ASADHA 17,1902 {SAKA) Written Answers 58 3 K abini Hydroelectric ixaoMW 9*33 Sept, 1979 Project report examined in P roject. the Central Electricity Autho « rity/ Central water Commi * ssion and comments have been sent to the Project autoorities in February/ Match, 1980. Replies to these comments are awaited. Supply of Paraffin Wax to Small World Bank Assistance for Medium Scaie mdnstrles in Orissa irrigation Project 3310. SHRI K. PRADHANI: Will 3311. SHRI D. P. JADEJA: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND the Minister of IRRIGATION be CHEMICALS be pleased to state: , pleased to state; (a) the small .scale industries in (a) whether World Bank has sur- Orissa which consume paraffin wax as veyed certain States for assisting in their basic raw materia] together respect of constructing medium irri- with the installed capacity of each gation projects in India; such industry and the allotment of (b) if so, when the survey was paraffin wax to each of them during done; last three years; (c) the names of the States select- (b) whether it is a fact that the ed; and supply of paraffin wax have not been satisfactory during the last three (d) the details 01 the quantum and years; and mode of such assistance offered by the World Bank? (c) if so, the steps Government have proposed to take to ensure ade- THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION quate supply of paraffin wax to these (SHRI KEDAR PANDAY): (a) industries in the interest of continu- to (d). The concept of financing a ity of production and employment of group of medium irrigation projects the workers therein? which would satisfy the economic and technical criteria evolved by the World Bank in consultation with THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, Government of India was introduc- CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS ed in 1977. Under this approach two (SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL): (a) agreements have been signed for to (c). The required information is medium irrigation projects in the being collected and will be laid on States of Orissa and Gujarat as per the table of Lok Sabha. details given below:— S I, N am e of Project Amount of Date of Closing date No. crrdit signirg of Agrre- ($ million) rrcnt 1. Orissa Irrigation Project 58 OO 11-1O-77 31-10-83 a. Gujarat Irrigation Projcct 85 00 17-7-78 30-€-P4 Cluster of Mediuv^, Irrigation Project in Mpdhya Pradesh is bcirg ccrcideied fci sirrilar ciedit assistance. Written Answers JULY 8, 1880 Written Answers 6» This is a line of credit approach been sanctioned for Gujarat State lor assisting medium irrigation pro- under the World Bank aid irrigation jects in a time slice of about 5 years. schemes to until farmers; Both ongoing and new schemes are eligible for inclusion in the line of (b) the mode tbrough which this credit. The expenditure incurred fund is to be spent; and after the date of signing of the agree, ment is eligible for assistance. Ex- (c) the names of the Districts in penditure incurred on projects which Gujarat State which are to be bene- meet the economic and technical cri- fited? teria laid down by the World Bank are eligible or reimbursement. An Appraisal Committee set up in Cen- THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION tral Water Commission is authorised (SHRI KEDAR PANDAY): (a) to approve individual sub-projects and (c). The International Develop- costing upto a certain fixed amount ment Association an affiliate of (Rs. 70 million in case of Orissa and the World Bank has agreed to pro- Gujarat Medium Irrigation Projects)/ vide credit assistance of US S 85 mil- Sub-projects costing more than this lion for medium irrigation projects of limit have to be pre-approved by the Gujarat, this credit assistance is for a World Bank. The expenditure is first group of medium irrigation projects. incurred by the State Government on Those medium projects which satisfy these projects, and after approval by the economic and technical criteria the appraisal Committee, the State evolved in consultation with the Governments prefer claims, to World Bank would be eligible for credit as. Bank for reimbursement of expendi- sistance, after they are approved by ture incurred. Generally 50 per cent an appraisal committee set up for of expenditure is reimbursed. this purpose in the Central Water Commission. The Government of Gu- jarat have identified a number of World Bank Air for Medium medium projects for utilising this Irrigation Schemes of Gujarat credit assistance. Out of these, the fol. lowin» J2 projects have so far been 3312. SHRI AMARSINH V. RA- cleared by the Appraisal Committee THAWA: Wil] the Minister of IR- of Government of India/IDA for as- RIGATION be pleased to state: sistance. (a) the number and details of medi- um irrigation projects which have The details are as under:— SI. Name of Project Estimated Irrigaticn Eistrirt*. N o. cost Potential Benefited (Rs.croies) (ha-) I 2 3 4 5 1 . Panam 4 1 4 53451 Panchmaha1 & V a d o d a ra 2. Sjkhi 32 *5 25205 Panchmahal & V a d o d a ra Panchm &haL 3. Machhanala 4*7 4335 4. Amli (Ver-II) 6 4 5466 Su rat B h avn ag ar 5. Kalubhar 6*3 IS6* 61 Written Answers ASADHA 17,1902 (SAKA) Writt*% Answers I 8 3 4 3 6. Sukhbahadar . • • 5 ’9 5364 Surendarnagaiy Bhavnagar & Ahmed a bad 7609 Ju n a g fd h 7. Machhur di i 7 3 f i . Watrak • • • 24 .4 16875i Sabarkantha-. K af ira 9- 16 * 1 9261 V adodara &» Pan chm ah al 1©. U n d 15 1 9282 Jamnagar i i . V en u -11 . 8 9 5279 R a jk o t & • Ju n a g a d h - 1 9 . H a d a f 7 *9 4740 Parchirahsl (b) Under the credit agreement, Western Region by Railways i3 un- Appraisal Committee set up in Central satisfactory; Water Commission is authorised to approve projects costing upto Rs, 70 (c) whether the State Feature programme on Alfred Hitch- (iii) Coal companies are releasing cock on TV coal by road to the cement units against the shortfall in rail move- ment as per the linkages given by 3314. PROF. MADHU DANDA- Standing Linkage Committee for VATE: Will the Minister of INFOR- Cement. MATION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state: POWER: The present power restrictions in force in the various States and Union (a) whether after the death of the Territories are result of the prevail- renowned tflm producer and author ing power shortage conditions. In the Alfred Hitchcock, any special feature guidelines for supply of power in a was shown On television on his hfe scheme of graded priorities circulated and work; and by the Department of Power in 1974 (b) if so, the details thereof? cement is included in Group II of essential consumers along with other input industries to the power sector, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN coal mining, oil, steel industry etc. THE MINISTRY OF INFORMA- With the onset of monsoon, the State TION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI- Government have relaxed|lifted po- MATI RAMDULARI SINHA): (a) wer cuts on various categories of in- and (b). The information is being dustry. It is expected that with a collected and will be laid on the Ta- normal monsoon this year the power ble of the House. supply position is likely to improve. In the meantime, cement units have been permitted to set up captive/ stand-by generating units. Supply *jf Coal and Power to Cement Units Effect of short fall in Coal production on Railways and Industries 3315. SHRI ANANDA PATHAK: Will the Minister of ENERGY AND 3316. SHRI M. RAM GOPAL RED- COAL be pleased to state what steps DY: Will the Minister 0f ENERGY have been taken to increase the avail- AND COAL be pleased to state: ability of both coal and power to the various cement units in the country? (a) whether it is a fact that there has been gradual fall in the produc- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN tion of coal fields of India which has THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY adversely affected the railways and (SHRI VIKRAM MAHAJAN): (a) industries; and The steps taken to improve the supply of coal and power to the ce- (b) if so, the reasons therefor and ment industry are indicated below:— remedial measures taken? COAL: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (i) Rail movement of coal is being THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY closely monitored at all levels in- (SHRI VIKRAM MAHAJAN): (a) cluding the Cabinet Committee on No Sir. There has been actually an Industrial Infrastructure. increase of 2 m. t. in coal production in 1979-80, compared to 1978-79 and (ii) Coal companies are maintain- an increase of about 2.50 m. t. in ing £iose liaison with the Railways April—June 1980, compared to April at all levels to maximise rail move- —June 1979. ment of coal to the industries, cement in particular. (b) Does not arise. Written Answers ASADHA 17, 1902 (SAKA) Written Answers 66 Production of Documentary Feature poration (since amalgamated with Films in Regional Languages National Film Development Corpora- tion on 11-4-80) was set up in I960 3317. PROF NARAIN CHAND to promote -the growth of Indian ci- PARASHAR: ' Will the Minister of nema including the production of INFORMATION AND BROADCAST- quality films. The Corporation sanc- ING be pleased to state: tions loans for feature|documentary films on the basis of script and theme, (a) whether Government have tak- irrespective of the language in which •en any steps to promote the production the film is to be produced. To en- of documentary and feature films in courage regional language films, the regional dialects; Corporation set up Regional Script Panels at Madras and Calcutta, the (b) if so, the names of the dialects two important production centres for selected for this purpose; regional films. (c) the names of the films n'or pro- duction of which any financial assist- ance has been given during the last three years; • The Films Division proposes to set up two Regional Production Centres (d) the quantum of assistance given —one in the Eastern region and the in each case; other in Southern region—for produc- (e) whether any more dialects ing films in the languages of the re- gions concerned. would be selected for this purpose; and (c) and (d). A statement giving (f) if so, the names thereof and if the information is attached. not, the reasons therefor? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (e) Films under the Schemes of THE MINISTRY OF INFORMA- N.F.D.C. and Films Division can be TION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI- in any regional language/dialect. MATI RAMDULARI SINHA): (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. Film Finance Cor- (f) Does not arise. Statensent Names o f the regional language films for which loan Was given by Film Finance Corporation during 1977-78, r 97^-7*3 and 1979-80 SI. No. Name of film & langnai?o Amo nt of loan sarrticred 1. “Vizhippu** (T?mil) ...... 3,00.000/- 2. “Maha Kavi NanalaP (Dorun entary in Gujaiati) ...... 20,000/- 3. “Aparupa” (Ass?nc4e) ...... 3,60,0^0/- 4* “22nd June 1897** (Marathi) ...... 3>5°5oo<>/- 5* “Bara” (Kannada) ...... 3,50,000/- 6. “Bhavni Bhavai L (Gujarathi) ...... 3,5^,ooo/- 7. “Phanvamina” (Kannada) ...... 2,50,000-/ 67 W ritten Ansiucrs JULY 8, 1980 W ritten Answers 6 a 8. “Abhilasha (Oiiya) 3.00.000/- o. “Nerabjhada (Oriyp) 2,34,00°/- i o. “Ashwami dha Chen (I n gali & Hirdi) 3,50.000/- 11. “Maya Mnga (Oiiva) 4.00.000/- 12. “Aaj Wali Raat Am as Ni (Gujaiaihi) 4,50,000/- Central Jute* Mills of Sahu Jain Group ble Member desires information on New Central Jute Mills Company Limit- 3318. PROF. NIRMAIA KUMARI ed belonging to Sahu Jain Group. The SHAKTAWAT: Will the Minister of relevant informaticn in iespect of New LAW, JUSTICE AND COMPANY Central Jute Mills Comrrmy Limited is AFFAIRS be pleased to state: given in the statement enclosed. (a) whether he is aware of the fact (b) a statement showing the details that the Central Jute Mills Company of actual production of Jute goods, Limited, of the Sahu Jain Group, who own three well-known Jute Mills of castings and chemicals and fertilizers Calcutta and a soda ash factory at as also net worth during the four year Varanasi,, have continuously been run- period ending on 31-3-1079 as given by ning into losses and have not paid any the company in their audited accounts dividend to its shareholders for the in enclosed as. past 14 years; (c) This Department has not made (b) whether its production lias been any estimation of the loss o* revenue to showing a downward trend year after the govesrnment, workers and share- year, alongwith its net worth; holders as a result of the decrease in (c) if so, what is the extent of loss production observed during last four of revenue to the Government workers years. and shareholders; r.nd (d) An inspection into the affairs °f (d) whether Government propose to the company under section 209-A of the investigate into the affairs of the Company Act has been conducted and Company? the inspection report has since been received in the Department. The same THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUSTICE is being examined and action as appro- AND COMPANY (SHRI P. SH IV priate under the provisions of the Com- SHANKER): (a) Presumably the Hon’ panies Act will be taken. Staten? ent Net profit (+ ) I Loss (—•) incurred by Ntw Central Jute Mills Co. Ltd. Year Net Profit/ Dividend declared Loss (Rf=. in lacs) 3i-3-f>5 62- 3B(— ) x 3i-3=€6r 54 73C—) X 'Written Answers ASADHA 17, 1902 (SAKA) Written Ansioers yo I 2 3 31-3-67 ...... l5-55(—) X 31-3-68 ...... 22. jpf + ) X 3»-3-^9 ...... 25* 87(H ) X 31-3-70 ...... 102. g6( + ) X 31-3-7» ...... S9* 4L>( + ) 31-3-72 ...... i6g. ^5( + ) X 3*-3-73 ...... 18. 64(—) X 3* -3-74 ...... 56. 21 (—) X ...... 170.07(4-) X 31-3-75 3 j-3-76 ...... 8o-94(+) f Rs. 6,oos 600/- on preference Share.s for u yens er.ded 31 -3-^5 1° & 31-3-66 subject tax- Total percfnlige for 2 years r8-20% i..e ^ 0,1 % per year) 31 “3~77 ...... i35-67t—) X 31-3-78 ...... *55- 57(—) X 3!-3-79 ...... 263- g(—) X Statement Details of actual production for the 4 accounting years ended on 3 t-3-79, Year Jute goods in Castings in Chemicals & Ferti- M.T. M.T. lizers in M.T. 31-3-76 59.009 1187 42738* 31-3“77 ...... 52,298 834 42433** 31-3-78 ...... 47,632 951 35307** 31-3-79 39.952 323 37i89** ** company has bee man fact ri g small number ■ B. Statement showing the net worth of the Company for the 4 accounting years ended on 31-3-79 31-3-70 237.3.1 Net worth (Rs. in lakhs) Year ended on 31-3-79 —25.Bo N OTE —The net ,\orih has bccnca c Jaledr on the basis of fig res disclosed in the Balancc Sheet w ith it taking into a cc unt the arrea- 31-3-76 . 528.55 rs of depreciation and liabi i ties not pn .vide 31-3-77 . 392.80 f* r as disclosed in the notes forming i»rt of the Acc unts. 7* Written Answers J'UlliY 3 t 1$ Proposal to Retire Production Cadre Supply of Ethylene Oxide by Indian Employees of Doordarshan at 58 Petrochemicals Corporation Ltd. Baroda 3319. SHRI RAMAYAN RAI: Will 3320. SHRI CHINTAMANI JENA: the Miniiter of INFORMATION AND Will the Minister of PETROLEUM BROADCASTING be pleased t0 state: AND CHEMICALS be pleased Io state: (a) whether it is a fact that Indian (a) whether Government are consi- Petrochemicals Corporation Ltd. dering a proposal *o retire pioauction Baroda, a Public Sector Unit, is sup- cadre employees of the Doordarshan plying ethylene oxide <§> 75 per cent and All India Radio on attaining the of their production to M/s. Hico Pro- age of 58 years to provide employment ducts Ltd., and 15 per cent to M/s. opportunities to younger generation; Amines & Plasticizers Ltd.; (b) whether it is also ?. Tac< that (b) if not, the reasons therefor and other actual users, desipite their re- why this cadre in Government service peated requests, are being denied sup- has been given the allowance of retir- ply of this essentia] raw material; ing on attaining 60 years of age; and (c) if so, what arc the icascns for (c) whether some new plan has patronising only the above mentioned been drawn to employ maximum num- two companies by the IPCL; ber of youths in programme cadre of (d) whether Government have any the Doordarshan and All India Radio? proposal to revise the sales policy of the IPCL to ensure equitable distribu- tion of ethylene oxide to the other actual users in the country; and THE MINISTER OF STATEt IN THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND (e) if so, when and if not the rea- BROADCASTING (SHRIMATI RAM- sons therefor? DULARI SINHA): (a) and (b). There is no proposal under consideration to THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, retire production cadre employees on CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS attaining the age of 58 year^;. They are (SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL): (a) No, retained in service upto the age of 60 Sir. The quantities of ethylene oxide years, subject to review at the age of supplied to M/s. Hico Products Ltd. 58 years, in order to utilise their talent and M/s* Amines and Plasticizers Ltd. and experience to the maximum extent during the period January to June, 198o consistent with efficiency. formed only 49 per cent and 17 per cent respectively of the total sale?. A proposal to grant pensionary bene- fits to Staff Artists of All India Radio (b) No, Sir. Apart from M/s. Hico and Doordarshan is under considera- Products Ltd. and M/s. Amines and Plasticizers Ltd., IPCL has been sup- tion of the Government at present. If this goes through, Staff Artists, includ- plying ehtylene oxide to 13 other par- ing those in the production cadre, will ties who were in a position to arrange become subject to Rules applicable to their own tank lorries for transporting regular Government employees and then this product during the period Janu- the age of retirement will also be ary to Junet 19-80. brought at par with that of the other Government Servants i.e. 58 years. (c) The question does not arise (d) and (e). No, Sir. Does not arise (c). No, Sir. in view (a) & (b) above. 73 Written An&wfirs ASAIftJA 17,1802 tSAKA) Written Answers WTyTtrynft % injTi fcw t t hfp c|^en fgrpfti the Jtyiian side will coqyj^qjr#}# Jheir final deci- 3321. tfr firnw : wt f^r sion on the preliminary proposals as «K JTMQfv *■$ m W?r fft ffV W* •ftf: early as possible. It has also been agreed that after the fined decision by (t ) * n JwrfWRfn# % the Indian side on the setting up of an t t faresn: % fctfV vtym or enterprise for manufacturing pre- F*nn* T* 4 ; ifk fabricated items, it would be necessary 3322. SHRI B. K. NAIR: Will the wwf $rf & Purchase of Films by Tamil Nadu films only for the purpose for which Government they are purchased? TftE MINISTER OF. STATE IN THE 3324. SHRI N. DENNIS: Will the MINISTRY OF INFORMATION Minister of INFORMATION AND AND BROADCASTING (SHRIMATI BROADCASTING be pleased to state: RAM DULARI SINHA): (a) Annual purchases made by the Tamil Nadu (a) whether large quantity of raw Government are indicated in the en- films were purchased by the Tamil closed statement ^received from the Nadu Government from the Hindu- Hindustan Photo Films Mfg. Company stan Photo Films during the financial Limited. years 1977-78, 1978.79 and 1079-80; (b) The quantity of raw films and its value are also indicated in the enclosed (b) if so, the quantity purchased statement. and the amount for which they were purchased; and (c) No .stipulation was made by the HPF requiring the purchaser to use to (c) whether any stipulations are films only for the purpose for v.’bich made to the purchaser to use the these were purchased. Statement Product Qty. No. of rolls Vplur' ps. in I ikhs 1977-78 1978-79 1979-80 1977-78 1978-79 1979-80 1. 35 MM cine posit i\e B&W . . . 1106 *976 1862 3.28 fi.oG 6.43 2. 16 MM cine positive- B&W . . . . 336 472 0.42 0.68 I . 00 3. 35 MM cine Sound . 53 c c 117 95 0.17 o-34 4. 35 **M cine Colour Positive. 0-7 . 117 182 0.69 1 12 5. 35 MM cine Colour positive. G-g . 13 0.09 35 MM light struck- film .... 5 10 O.OI O.OI Total • • 3.87 6.93 8.90 Alternate Source of Energy (b) if so, what is the detail of the work and the progress thereto? 3325. SHRI ZAINUL BASjHER: Will the Minister of ENIiRGY AND COAL THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE be pleased to state: MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI VIK- RAM MAHAJAN): (a) and (b). The (a) in view of the fact that oil Demand for energy in India are met reserves are being rapidly exhausted both from traditional (non-commercial) all over the world what steps are sources like fire-wood, agriculture being taken by the Government of waste and cattle dung and modem India to find new source of energy forms of energy (commecial sources) which can replace oif; and viz., coal o*l products and electricity. W r itten Answers ASADHA 17, 1902 (SAKA) Written Answers The energy policy formulated in 1976 energy resources. This is a continu- accepts coal as the prmcioal source of ing programme and has its objective energy to the extent practicable ::d to develop R&D that can lead economical, and recognised the import- rapidly to practical application. Em- ance of conservation 0f energy and phasis is laid on installation of demons- energy resources, and the development tration plants capable of yielding ener- of new sources of energy. Considering gy from non-conventional energy re- the subsequent developments, particu- sources with a view to appraise and larly in respect of price and availabili- evaluate their practical application, ty of oil, a Working Group under the the steps taken in respect of develQ> Chairmanship of the then Secretary ment of various sources of energy are (P ow er) was constituted to carry out a given below. * comprehensive review of the energy situation, to develop a perspective i’or Solar Energy the development of the energy sector and to recommend suitable policy mea- 5. In view of its abundant supply, sures for an optimal utilisation of avail- 'Government of In d ia prooose to acco:d able energy resources. The Working • high priority to fhe development of Group submitted its report in Novem- solar energy tecKnoIogies for a wide ber, 1979. The Working Group has range of practical application with spe- pointed out the need to develop cial emphasis on its use on decentralis- conventional commercial as well as ed basis particularly in the rural areas. non-commercial energy resources in A programme has been taken up to an optimal manner and to introduce coordinate the projects undertaken by means for conservation of energy. several agencies such as Institutes of Technologies National Laboratories of 2. The Working Group has also em- the CSIR, R&D Division of BHEL, phasised the need for containing the Central Electronics Limited etc. demand for energy, specifically oil, to 6. The current activities seek to ex- manageable levels in view of the hi£es pand the programme with special em- in energy price and also the uncertain- phasis on the following three main ties in getting the supplies. areas of solar technology; 3. A Cabinet Committee on Energy (a) Development of Solar Thermal was set up in February, 1980 supported devices and systems based on the by a Committee of Secretaries (also set thermal effects of solar radiation; up in February, 1980) for examination of all issues arising out 0f the recom- (b) Development of i'hotovoltaic mendations of the Working Group. and systems for direct conversion of Conservation of energy and the steps devices solar energy into electricity; to find new sources of energy for re- (c) Bio-mass and bio conversion placing oil is a continuous process. technology. The Working Group while stressing the need for this has recognised that Solar Thermal Devices for the next two decades at least, the energy needs of the country in bulk would have to be met from commer- 7. Priority in tins is being given to cial conventional and non-commercial solar collector technology with special sources. reference to evolving a technology that is cost efficient for different applica- 4. The Government of India has al- tions. Proto-type grain dryers of ready taken up a coordinated pro- different capacities have been develop- gram me of systematic R&D in solar ed and two such dryers of • varying energy technology, wind energy, bio capacity have been installed and are energy and other non-conventional being tried at different locititfns. Fur- 79 Written Answers JULY 8, 1980 Written Answers 80 ther development of solar dryers for Bio Mass Energy agricultural and food oroducts is also envisaged. 12. A time-bound AU-India 8. Several types of solar water heat- Coordinated Programme involving seve- ing systems have been developed. ral inter-disciplinary research ^centres in the country has been initiated and 9. A solar powered cold storage plant will be taken up in a {phased manner with absorption refrigeration system Considerable progress has befen achiev- has been oompleted at- Bombay ed in the utilisation- of organic toraste and the performance of the plant is and a few designs of viable family size under evaluation. Design, develop- bio mass gas plant have been evolved ment and fabrication of a few more and further research work is in pro- such plants are planned for optimising gress. Emphasis is now placed on their performance. developing community sJze bio-gas 10. Demonstration power plants bas- plants to serve the energy needs of the ed on solar thermal energy for decen- rural areas. Demonstration projects tralised application are Dlanned for the have been planned. Several community next three years. A comprehensive bio gas plants are under construction. project for setting up a Centre tor A National Steering Committee has proto-type and product development been constituted to examine, ident’fy including field trial and demonstration and formulate R&D programmes relat- in rural areas, of solar thermal devices ed to production of bio ni£rS5~f&eis/ has been formulated and it is estim ated feed stock. Specific proiects have been to cost around Rs. 6 crores for five taken Tift lor evaluating technologies years. for bio mass energy generation. Al- Photovoltaic Devices and Systems ready 70,000 smaller bio gas plants have been installed in the country. 11. The basic technology for dir?ct conversion of solar energy into electri- Wind Power city by photovoltaic cells has already been developed. The objective of all 13. Some research and development future projects is to minimise the cost activities to develop prototype wind of electricity to be generated by this mills in the country have been taken method. The Central Electronics up. An integrated rural development Limited has fabricated single crystal project is in progress in Eastern UP jn silicon cells on the laboratory scale collaboration with the Government of with participation of the several re- the Netherlands. This project includes search groups in the country Solar establishment 0f prototyoe wind mills photovoltaic modules developed by for water pumping. Several wind CEL are currently in use in light mills have been established and they houses for navigation, for pumping are presently undergoing field trials water etc. A major project and evaluation. The CPRI and NAL, costing Rs. 9.5 crores f°r meeting Bangalore are also carrying out R&D the energy needs of the rural in this a^ea. A horizontal axis wind areas has been drawn up. Meanwhile, mill has b?en developed and field test- programmes to fabricate solar photovol- ed. R&D works is in progress on low taic pump sets of about 25 KW capacity cost sail-type mills and vertical axis and instal them for field demonstra- wind generator. A project on small tion by 1981 have been planned. Simul- out-put multiblade wind mill lias alio taneously, R&D work has aeen been initiated. taken up for developing different types, for a wide range of application. Gero Thermal Energy SimuLbeen planned to expand the application of these systems to cover 14. The activities in the geo thermal drinking water and irrigation from field in the country are directed towards this year onwards. locating of possible hydro-thermal Written Answers ASADHA 17, 1902 (SAKA) Written Answers 82* reservoirs for power generation and ties in this field and further detailed other possible uses of the heat energy. examination I* required to decide on Detailed Investigations are in progress the nature and extertt of R&D activi- in the Puffs Valley in Jammu and ties to be undertaken keeping in v iew Kashmir and the Parbati Valley in the present stage of development of Himachal Pradesh. A geo-thermal the technology in the world. Coordinating Committee has been set up to review land "direct exploratory and other activities in the geo-thermal Taking over of Raymda Engineering field. Limited by Texmaco Tidal Pow«r 3326. SHRI NAVIN RAVANI: Will the Minister of LAW, JUSTICE AND 15. Some preliminary investigations COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to, on the possibility of use of tidal power state; have already been carried out and an UNEP expert also visited the country (a) whether Texmaco, the 3?irla in 1975 to advise on the possibilities controlled company, is reported to^ of tidal power development. Gulf oi Jiave moved to take over Raymon Cambay and Kutch along the West Engineering Limited a wagon manu. Coast and the estuary of Ganga in the facturing sick company; Sunderbans in West Bengal are the possible locations where the tidal (b) if so, what conditions it has range is fairly high, affording possi- forwarded for this amalgamation apd bilities for tidal power generation. whether Central Grovemment are The main problem with tidal energy considering the question of clearance relates to the high initial cost the to this proposal; variable nature of the outlook and the technical and economical problems (c) how many other industrial involved furming up this power. A units were taken over within last Coordination Committee was set up in three years by Texmaco and which May, 1979 under the Chairmanship of were these companies; and the Chairman CEA to consider fur- ther course of action and formulate (d) whether such cases were progress of investigation and studies referred to MRTP Commission? relating to tidal power development in the country. The Committee has since THE MINISTER OF LAW JUS- submitted a report for carrying out TICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS investigations at an assumpted cost of (SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER): (a) Rs. 207.11 lakhs exclusive of the and (b). No proposal from M/s. Tex- foreign exchange component of the maco Limited either under sub-section order of US $ 2,00,000 spread over for (4) of Section 23 or under sub-Section a period of 5 years. The Committee (2) of Section 23 of M.R.T.P. Act, 1969, ha. neering Works Limited was ordered to be wound up by the High Court of Ocean Thermal Energy Conversion Calcutta, and the matter of disposal of (OTEC) Plant and Wave jtower thp assets of that company is pending 16. The OTEC technology is still in before that court. a preliminary R&D stage in the world. (c) Nil. Some preliminary considerations have been glveii to taking up R&D activi- (d') Does not arise. 83 W ritten Answers JULY 8, 1980 W ritten Answers 84 urged upon Government to evolve a *TWT National Alcohol Policy for growth and development of Alcohol Based 332 7. «ft TWVrffT fn^art : Industries in the country; «ft tfo $0 f^fvrr : w^t Pt .1i , f^itr vw *t st ^ (b) what is the total production of ^rfTn" *Ft $ National Alcohol Policy for Growth and Development of Alcohol Based Industries THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS 3328. DR. VASANT KUMAR PAN- (SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL): (a) DIT : Will the Minister of PETRO- Yes, Sir. LEUM AND CHEMICALS be pleased to state: (b) The total production of alcohol (a) whether the All India Alcohol and molasses during the last three Based Industries Association has years ‘was as under:—• Alcohol Molasses (in lakh litres) (in lakh tonnes) 19 76 -7 7 (Dec. 76-N0V.77)) 4452.300 2 2 . 1 5 >977-78 (Dec.77-N0v.78) 5000.000 30.7 0 19 78 -79 (Dec.78-N0v.79) 4379•015 2 5 .8 0 (c) The following quantities of al-cohol and molasses were exported dur- ing the last three financial years: Alcohol Molassei Tonnes FOB value Tonnes FOB value Rs./lakhs Rs./lakhs 19 7 7 -7 8 Nil Nil 2 1,4 0 7 62 1978-79 15 ,4 16 2 7 8 .0 *>63,337 6 91 CO 0 1979-80 8 ,7 4 9 4 *3 1 »3 oo 2 6 5 9 (d) The combined installed capacity of distilleries in India i& approximate- ly 6655 million litres. 85 Written Answers ASADHA 17, 1902 (SAKA) Written Answers 86 qafaus fcfavsa wircfh: sfasr ^ *fy *nsr w ft x x n riiv fi ^ n f x x T^t *Ar ) grer t f r r w ^Wi mtffc fosrt ift sTofora: *r*f ^ ? r r ^ r ?r^f farmr m | tfto i\ * tfto ^fVT *TT£o ^to 2. «n»^, ^ITTTT TWW rfta ^TTOS **t («ft jr * t o ^ ( ^ ) ant 1977, SjRgpsr— c . *rc spi ?rr*T aft *$ ^ T (f^- ?TTo ir) ^0 ^rr 1977-78 1978—79 1979-80 1 2 3 4 5 6 I. 6 ^0 Tto (To — — 650 14 50 ( tT ^ ft ) * 2. ^c»f d ^TTTRTt 24489 242110 24790 3 tfVTfftfa Xt-WPb2 wiMwr 200 1600 800 4. f'Tq’^nn^, 600 600 600 5 5250 wrfWtq^r 4885 4885 6. £ fT*Trrr#T jnr 100 300" — 7. irPTtr^N ?T^n5|j : . 10 1 000 3000 >\ *V rfk 8 mWT 735 725 450 250 (t^tfteft) ♦ 9. 2F9fhwfi5ftvt5r ?r>Mt 1 60 220 3 5 Written Answers JULY 8, I9j80 Written Answers 8& 2 3 4 5 6 Frerfire aft i 7 vrffhrhTvr 150 10 130 faerifiretfi (wfKer) 405" 1 400 673 120 «S A. *. ftsrfiretfx (W t) flTMr?Tt 163 i 520 20 VJ ™ r 5 1 — $to 124 — — t[o W fsp rte *fcfart 776 102 250 ft afire 1230 960 — faBTfire vrTMmT 5720 61 60 — ftrrfire sft 6 30 5 90 425 trfjrs 9000 — — 2 S 9750 — ’srrf?>ftTT?r 160 — — —^ — 1165 — — *T^fJTf?fT^Tg^ . —*r?Y— 7 ] S — — vf^rreWr —? $ — 1 (>7 — —■ mm?rt % f^r (n^o xft* *ft°) snrr^r 7* 1 ^5RJ—II %T?r ^FTT 1977 1978 1979 (*TFKt W ! if) 2 3 A 5 .... 415182 276078 278435 ^srrffpIT .... 535750 1605300 2701650 SflTfaPTT .... 51800 — 95710 WT ..... 292860 72080 74100 WriMen Answers ASADHA 17, 1902 (SAKA) Written Answers 90 5. tftaftor 292900 1538622 373859 <> fw yc 79950 57100 1081180 7 fqpfr . 16173 2970 842 5 .8. *Rf * 115445 9. 766580 543570 » 211292 10 80037 18150 11 v* 5307 12074 !2 gtf . 14325 7524 20880 13 6 •' 6 <16 7 14 562404 652245 15 iivsreV (Star) 30 500 14273 io. ? 07^ 0^0 9407 Effect of Shortage of Steei on Coat. Patratu is the shortage of steel. The missioniff£ Thermal Projects at other main reasons are: — Barauni and Patratu (i> delay in placement of orders for the auxiliary equipment; 3330. SHRI N. E. H Q RO : W ill the Minister of ENERGY AND COAL be (ii) delay in award of erection pleased to state : contract for Boiler and Turbo-gene- (a) whether it ig a fact that steel rator and non-planning of steel re- shortage is holding up the progress quirement and its procurement. of expansion project of the Bihar SEB and the officials fear that the The latest assessment of commis- commissioning of four thermal pro- sioning of these projects is as fol- jects, two at Barauni and two at lows : — Patratu, each of llOmv, may be de- layed; and Barauni— (b) if so the details regarding the delay in commissioning the projects Unit 6 — 12/81 in as per schedule? Unit 7 — 6/82 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI VIKRAM MAHAJAN): (a) Unlt 9 __ 12/82 and (b). One of the reasons affecting the progress of Projects at Barauni and Unit 10 — 6/83 wmtcn A nsw ers JULY 8, 1980 WWen Answers 92 Credit from I.O.A. for Irrigation (c) The project is the continuation of Project irrigation development in the areas covered by ongoing schemes ot the 3331. SHRI R. K. MHALGI: Will Krishna, Kukadi, Upper Wardha, Upper the Minister of IRRIGATION be pleas- Penganga, Warna, Girna and Mula. ed to state: The salient features of this project are as below: —• (a) is it a fact that the Interna- tional Development Association Part A: Construction Works on It (IDA) has sanctioned a $ 210 million dams; construction of about 900 kilo- credit for an irrigation project in meters of main and branch canals; Maharashtra; construction of distribution systems and drains; and construction or mo- (b) the tejms and conditions of this deernization of about 620 kilom eters credit facility; of link roads. (c) what are the salient features of this irrigation scheme; and Part B ; Modernization of existing main and branch canals, distribution (d) when the project is likely to be systems and drains in the areas of completed? Girna and Mula schemes. Part C: Strengthening of the com- THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION mand area development authorities, (SHRi KEDAR PANDAY): (a) Yes, including agricultural extension and Sir. applied researcht modern manage- ment services and operation and (b) The credit assistance is as per maintenance in the Project Area. the standard terms and conditions of lending of the International Develop- Part D ; Provision of vehicles and ment Association, an affiliate of the equipment for Project works and for World Bank. These are briefly as operation and maintenance. u n d e r: — Part E : Expansion of Maharash- (i) The Credit is interest free but tra’s Bilot Water Management Pro- the Government of India pays to gram m e. the World Bank a service charge at the rate of 3/4 of one per cent per Pnrt F : Establishment of a pro- annum on the principal amount of gramme for Project monitoring and the credit withdrawn and outstand- evaluation. ing from time to time. Part G : Establishment of a train- (ii) Service charge is payable ing programme for land development semi-annually on April 1 and Octo- and water management specialists. ber^ 1 of each year. (d) The 5-year time-slice of the pro- (iii) The Government of India has ject receiving credit assistance from to repay the principal amount of the the World Bank is likely to be com- credit in semi-annual instalments by pleted by October, 31, 1984; however, specific dates commencing 10 years closing date is December, 31,1985. Dur- from the signing of the agreement ing this period, the construction works and repayable in the next forty on most of the dams and substantial years thereafter. The credit is to the lengths of the major canals are likely Government of India and reimburse- to be completed. The first phase of ment is claimed from the IDA after the Girna and Mula Modernisation the expenditure is incurred on the schemes is also expected to be com- eligibly items of the project. pleted within this five-year period. Written Answers ASADHA 17, 1902 (SAKA) Written Answers p r oduction ot fertilizer lit F.C I. at THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION Sipdri (SHRI KEDAR PANDAY): (a) as in- timated by the State Government, out 3332. SHRI CHHITU3HAI GAMIT: of a total length of 76 km. of the main Will the Minister of PETROLEUM Western Kosi Canal in India, at pre- AND CHEMICALS be pleased to sent, the excavation work is being state: done in the reach upto km. 40 i.e. upto East of River Kamala. The progress (a) is it true that 183-crore F.C.I. upto March, 1980 in excavation is 22.8 Fertilizer Unit in Sindri has not pro- per cent and in lining 34 per cent. duced a grain of Fertilizer for the Work on only 9 structures out of 356 last five months due ta serious “fitness has been taken up so far. The State problem”; Government has been advised to make (b) what are the details of sudh all out efforts to complete the* project problems, if any; and by 1987 June at the latest. (c) what step taken to keep the The delay in execution of the pro- modern machinery fu lly fit despite ject is due to insufficient financial out- not working at present? lays difficulties being faced in acquir- ing the land, shortage of certain cons- THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, truction materials as well as petrol, CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS oil and lubricants required, for trans- (SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL): (a) portation of construction material, ope- and (b . No, Sir. It is not correct that ration of pumping sets< etc. tho iRs. 183 crore Sindri Modernisation plant has not produced fertilizers for (b) This will have now to be fixed the last five months due to any ‘fitness by the State Government in view the overall target of completion of the problem ” . The plant is shut down Project by June, 1987. from the evening of 16.1.80 due to non- availability of Fuel Oil/LSHS feed- stock on account of Assam situation. Merger of Indo-Swiss Synthetic Gem (c) During the shut down period, Manufacturing Company prnoer maintenance and modification jobs where necessary, are being car- 3334. SHRi M. V. CHANDRASHE- ried out to keep the plant and machi- KHARA MURTHY: ne -ies in tfood condition. SHRI P. M. SAYEED; Completion of Western Kosi CanaJ in W ill the Minister of LAW, JUSTICE Bihar AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state.- 3333. SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA: Will the Minister of IRRIGATION be (a) whether the Indo-Swiss Synthetic Gem Manufacturing Com- pleased to state; pany Limited, now on ttie verge of (a) what is the latest position closure, is proposed to be rehabilitat- with regard to the completion of the ed through a scheme of merger with Western Kosi canal in Madhubani I^ tro c Pharmaceuticals Limited; district of Bihar and what are the (b) whether the amalgamating hurdles in the way; and company has made an application to Government under Sub-section (2) of (b) what is the exact time sche- Section 23 of the Monopolies and dule for giving water far irrigation Restrictive Trade Practices Act; from the canal to the peasants on the eastern side of river Kamala and (c) if so, what are the main ijoints- on the Western side respectively? of the merger scheme; and <95 Written Answers JULY 8, 1080 Written Answers 96 (d) the reaction of Government and 12 schemes for a loan outlay of Rs. when the final decision is likely to be 4.39 crores were at various stages of taken? examination in the Corporation and the remaining 30 schemes involving THE MINISTER OF LAW JUS- a loan outlay of Rs 10.55 crores had, TICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS after appraisal, been referred back to (SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER): (a) the Orissa State Electricity Board and N0 such proposal is pending with this were pending with them for revision/ Department. However, M/s. Indo- clarification. Swiss Synthetic Gem Manufacturing Company Limited has submitted an (b' The Corporation has been offer- applicar on to the Specified Authority ing concessional terms in regard to under section 72-A of the Income Tax rates of interest an 3335. SHRI RASABEHARI BEHERA: Setting up of stafe Electricity Board in Tripura Will the Minister of ENERGY AND COAL be pleased to state: 3336. SHRI A JOY BISWAS: Will (a) how many power projects pro. the Minister of ENERGY AND COAL posals and ru ment is that the power system in Tri- past five years and the allocation for pura is relatively small and the total 1980-81 for Kerala are given below:— sales during 1977-78 were of the order (In thousand tonnes) of 17 million units and the number of consumers was about 20,000 only. The cost of generation in the State is al- Year Supply ready very high and it has not been possible for the State to meet the ope- 1975-76 29.4 rational expenditure from the energy -sale proceeds in spite of a fairly high 1976-77 28.1 average rate of realization of revenue. 1977-78 29.3 The setting up of a State Electricity 1978-79 32.2 Board would further add to over- heads and will lead to a higher cost on 1979-80 31.1 the Organisation and was not, there- 1980-81 37.0 fore, considered to be a viable pro- (allocation) position. (b) No, Sir. (c) No such reports are available.. Demand and Allotment of Tar to Kerala (d) The present level of production of Cochin Refinery is not sufficient to meet the demand for bitumen in Ke- 3337. SHRI SKARIAH THOMAS: rala State. “Will the Minister 0f PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS be pleased to (e) Oil industry has been asked to state: make supplies of bitumen from differ- ent sources to Kerala as per allocation (a) the total demand and the annual made to that State for 1980-81. allotment of tar tQ Kerala during the past five years; Accident in Vurrugarh Colliery In Bihar (b) whether it is a fact that only 20 per cent of the requirement of 3338. SHRI SOMNATH CHATTER- Kerala has been met so far; JEE: Will the Minister of ENERGY AND COAL be pleased to state: (c) whether the urgent repair work of roads has suffered due to this; (a) number Qf miners killed aad injured on 14th April, 1980, in an accident at Vurrugarh Colliery in (*d) whether the oil tfefinery in Bihar; Cochin has the capacity to meet the requirements of Kerala; and (b) the details thereof; (c) steps taken iby Government to (e) if so, what steps have been prevent accident in Collieries; and taken to meet the full requirements of Kerala? (d) how much compensation has been given to the families of victims? THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI (SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL): (a) VIKRAM MAHAJAN): (a) and (bT. Total demand estimates for Bitumen 2 persons were killed and I was seri- for Kerala are not readily available. ously injured in the accidenj on Actual supply of bitumen for the 13-4-1980 in the Burragarh (not Vur- 1205 LS—4. w ra re n Answers •TULir tf, 1080 Written Answers 100 rugarh) Colliery of Bharat Coking compensation under the Workers Coal Ltd. The accident was due to Compensation Act amounting to about sudden and unanticipated roof-fall in Rs. 30,000/- each will now be deposit- a mining district where extraction of ed with the Commissioner shortly for coal was being done in conjunction disbursement t0 the dependents of with hydraulic stowing. the deceased workers. (c) On the recommendations of the Committee on Safety in Coal Construction of a Dra^n from Gopal- Mines constituted by the Department puri to Hindon/Yamuna river in Delhi of Coal, the following time-bound programme of safety measures in coal 3330. SHRI CHANDRA PAL SHAI- mines have been either implemented LANI: Will the Minister of IRRIGA- or are under implementation, TION be pleased t0 ?tate: (1) Internal Safety Organisation (a) the time by which the big' headed by General Manager inde- nullah starting from Gopalpuri, Delhi pendent of production wing has down to Hindon/Yamuna river being been set up in ea ih mining compa- constructed alongwith bus route ny, No. 320 in Trans-Yamuna area of Delhi will be completed; (2) Adoption of measures to re- duce accidents due to roof and side (b) whether outlet drains from all falls—supply of timber in adequate the nearby unapproved colonies of number from Forest Corporations. trans-Yamuna area will be joined with this nullah in order to solve the (3) Replacement of timber sup- problem of flood and dirty water- port by steel frictionlhydraulic logging here and there in the said prop and other forms of advanced colonies; types—continuing process. (c) if so, whether a plan for the (4) Installation of automatic purpose has been formulated and if warning systems along rivers, nal- so, when it will be implemented; and lahs etc. to alert nearby coal min?? of the rise in water level beyond (d) whether such a plan will the danger mark. Guardi are post- cover unapproved colonies like ed, in addition, during Monsoon Durgapuri, Jyoti Colony, Jagjiwan Season to watch water level in Jores Nagar and Kardarpuri etc. located on and rivers. and near Loni Road, Shahdara? (5) Imparting vocational train- THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATON ing to workers—continuing process. (SHRI KEDAR PANDAY): (a) It (6) Broadcasting safety propa- has been reported by the Delhi Ad- ganda —continuing process. ministration that the major trunk drain No. 1 starting from North of (7) Appointment by recognired Gopalpuri is likely to be completed by unions of Workers Inspectors— in June, 1981. most of the areas appointments made, except where there is short- (b) to (d). Delhi Administration age of qualified personnel. has further reported that the tribu- tary drains from the unapproved co- (8) Procurement of sophisticated lonies on trans-Yamuna area have safety and rescue equipments. been planned to join the main trunk drain No. 1 to solve the problem of (d) The dependents of the deceas- flooding of trans-Yamuna area This ed hacl furnished the required infor- planning covers the drainage of un- mation only very recently and the authorised colonies located on or near wrv+en A iiA iM jk 17, 1902 (SAKA) W ritten Answers i 02 Loni Road, Shahdara. Construction from February t0 May, 1930 is attach- and maintenance of internal and tri- ed. butary drain systems is the respon- sibility of the developing agencies, (b) The Maharashtra State E lec- namely, Municipal Corporation of tricity Board has informed that out- Delhi and Delhi Development Autho- ages werg mostly due to technical rity. These agencies have prepared reasons and they d0 not suspect a ay respective schemes for tributary drains sabotage. and would implement them after the residents of the unapproved colonies (c) The power shortage of the or- pay the development charges. der of 15 t0 24 per cent m the State has necessitated the imposition of power cuts on various categories of Number q g Power Plants went out of consumers in the State. order in Maharashtra (d) A number of measures have been taken anti are being taken to 3340 SHRI KESHORAO PARDHI: improve power availability in the Will the Minister of ENERGY AND State. These measures include: COAL be pleased to stat.*: (i) maximising generation from (a) the numbejr of power plants tne existing installed capacity in the went out of order in Maharashtra State; during the period from February to M ay, 1980 indicating the main reasons (u) expediting commissioning of whi^li led to their closure; new generating capacit 11 th i State; (b; whether this was due to sabotage or some technical fault led to their (iii) monitoring of coal stocks at closure; thermal power stations in the State and ensuring adequate quantity and (c) whether a major part of the quality of coal in the pow6r station state had to face a lot of difficulties in Maharashtra. due to shortage of power; and (iv) addition of 2392 MW of new (d> the measures taken to improve capacity has been planned for in- the power position? stallation during the period 1980— 85, out of which 500 MW is expect- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN ed t0 be commissioned in 1980-81. THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY: (SHRI VIKRAM MAHAJAN): (a) A state- (v) Steps are being taken for ment showing the outage-? o£ power early stabilisation of 200 MW sets plrnt*5 in Maharashtra and the rea- commissioned in 1978-79 and 1979- sons for outages during the period 80. Statement IW Outage* o f power plantf in Maharashtra and the reason % for outa&t in period from February to May, 1980 Period of outage Reason for outage February 1980 ; j . Newlv commissioned 200/210 MW units-Koradi- 880 hours Turbire plant troubles. 5, Nasik-3 and Bhi sawal 1-2 (aggregite) • 2. 120 MW Koardi Unit-4 .... 109 hours Boiler tube leakage. 103 W ritten Answers JULY 0, 1980 W ritten Answers 104 Period or outrage Reason for outrage 3. 30 MW parli Unit-2 Khaperkheda Unit- 100 hours Turbine/boiler side 5 (aggregate) trouble 4. y 5 MW Ballarshah Unit-3 . . 119 hours Boiler tube leakage March 1980 ; 1. Newly commissioned 200/210 MW units-Nasik 387 hours Bailer tube leakage/tur- 3 & Bhuaswal Units 2 (aggregate) bine plant trouble. 2. 120 MW Karadi Unit 1 & 2 . 540 hours Boiler plant trouble. v (aggregate) 3. 30 MW Parli-i 30 MW Khaerjheea Unit-4 359 hours Boiler tube leakage/ (aggregate) Turbine side faults. April 1980 ; 1. Newly commissioned 200/210 MW units-Karadi- 456 hours Boiler pi uit trouble/ 5, Nasik-3 and Bhusawal-2 t (aggregate) Turbine plant trouble/ Turbine and boiler faults. 2. 120 MW K o r a d i - 3 ...... 39 hours System distuibances. 3. 62 5 MW Paras Unit-2 . . . • 7° hours Generator C.T* failure. 4. 30 MW parli Unit-2 Khaperkheda Unit 2& 5 210 hours Boiler tube leakage/ condenser fault and boiler side fault. 5. 7-5 MW Ballarshah Unit-i . • 34 hours Turbine side fault. May 1980 | 1. Newly Commissioned 200/210 MW units-Koradi 317 hours B}iler s'de tioubles/ 5, Nasik-3, and Bhusawal-2 (aggregate) Turbine side faults 132 KV P.T failure and water pump troubles. 2. 120 MW Koradi Unit-3 261 ho rs Boiler tube leakage. 3- 120 MW Koradi Unit-4 346 hours Turbine bearing vib- rations. 4, 140 MW Nasik Unit-2 136 hours Boiler tube leakage. 5. 30 MW Parli Unit-2 Khiperkheda Unit-2 112 hours Exciter tiouble/ (aggregate) Boiler Trouble. 6. 7 5 MW Ballarshah Unit 1&2 9 hours Cooling water pump (aggregate) motor trouble. Gas reserves in Bombay High region (b) what are the details of Plans of Government to utilise gas reserves? 3341. SHRI G. NARSIMHA RED- DY: Wilt the Minister of PETRO- THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, LEUM AND CHEMICALS be pleas2d CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS to statb; (SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL): (a) The total geological reserves of gas of (a) what is the total quantity of Bombay High and the adjoining fields gas re&erves found in off shore areas in the region are estimated at 621 of Bom buy High region; and billion cubic metres, out of which the W r itten Answers ASADHA 17, 1902 (SAKA) W ritten Answers 1 06 recoverable reserves are placed at 272 (c) whether it is a fact that the billion cubic metres. progress of the work is not satisfac- tory in comparison to the other places (b) It is the policy of the Govern- of the country; and ment to use offshore gas for produc- tion of fertilizers, petro-chemicals and (d) what steps Government have extraction of LPG and not to use it taken to restart drilling operation in as fuel except as a fall-back arrange- Chorgola, wrhere the operation in ment till the fertilizer plants, etc. are been stopped for break-down of dril- able to utilise it fully. ling machinery for the la^t two years and now Government propose to The new gas-based projects already speed up the work in view of the approved and being planned at pre- serious crisis of Petroleum Oil and sent include: Lubricants products in the country? (1) Two fertilizer plants, each at Thai Vaishet in Maharashtra and THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, Hazira in Gujarat. . CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS (SHRI VERENDRA PATIL): (a) (2) A gas fractionation plant a* Cachar is a known petro iferous area. Uran in Maharashtra to produce Earlier much before independence LPG. Burmah Oil Company had a produc- ing fieM known as Badaipur in this (3) 6 new fertilizer plants ia area. M.P., Rajasthan and TJP/Punjab re- gion as recommended by the (b) The ONGC started drilling ope- Satishchandran Working Group. rations in Cachar by spudding its first well at Chargola structure on 5-7-77. (4) Gas Crackers|petro chemi- Another well at Barak structure is cal complexes in Maharashtra and currently under driling. This the Gujaiat and at suitable locations ONGC has so far taken up drilling at elsewhere. two places in Cachar area. (5) Gas fractionation plants to (c) The drilling in Cachar which produce LPG, depending on the is of exploratory nature, is satisfac- locations <-f the new gas-based fer- tory considering the geology and his- tilizer plants, demand of the area, tory of drilling in the area m the past. ctc. Burmah Oil Company had to aban- don several wells in this area due to the complicated sub-surface condi- Drilling operations in Cachar and tions. However. in comparison to Assam other areas in the country (except Tripura) the progress is slow. 3342. SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV; Will the Minister of PETRO- (d) It is not true that the drilling LEUM AND CHEMICALS be pleased operations at Chargola were stopped due to break down of drilling machi- to statr: nery. Actually the drilling at Chargoia (a) w*rt are the scopes of getting had t0 be suspended due to down hole oil in the district of Cachar, as per complications. ONGC plans to take uo findings of the experts; drilling at Chargola again during the current year. At present one iig is (b) the date and year of start- deployed in Cachar to drill an* explo- ing drilling operation by ONGC in ratory w ell on Barak structure. Be- Cachar, Assam and in how many sides, 8 locations have been released places; on A st"u.tures,in Cachar for drilling. W ritten A n s w e r s JULY 8, 1980 Written Answers 108 To speed up the work of drilling in (b) Agreements have been signed Cachar area, it is proposed to deploy with the USSR for new underground an additional rig from the year 2982- mining technology, design of large 83. During the period 1980—85 a total opencast mine projects and washeries, of 8 rig years of drilling have been modernisation of coal washeries and planned for Cachar. min^ construction. Agreements have also been signed with Poland for transfer of knowhow in design of Installation of 500 M.W. and 1000 M W. shaft sinking, verticl and horizon- Units In Orissa tal transport, mining technology, pro- ject construction and monitoring etc., 3343. SHRI CHINTAMANI PANI- The agreements also provide for train- GRAHI: Will the Minister of ENER- ing of Indian Specialists in Poland. GY AND COAL be pleased to state: A memorandum of understanding (a) whether proposals have been has been signed with the French Gov- received by the Central Electricity ernment to provide the technical as- Authority for installation of 500 M.W. sistance in designing and planning of and 1000 M.W. units in Orissa; and coal mines. U.K. assistance is being availed of for in-production of mecha- (b) if so, whether places have been nised longwall mining in underground suggested and which places? mines. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN Demand for Nutan Kerosene Stove THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI VIKRAM MAHAJAN): (a) No for- 3345. SHRI V. S. VIJAYA RAGHA- mal proposal has been received by the VAN: Will the Minister of PETRO- Central Electricity Authority for in- LEUM AND CHEMICALS be pleased stallation of 500 M.W and/or 1000 to state: M.W. units in Orissa. (a) what has been the total de- (b) Does not arise. mand of the Indian Oil designed “Nutan” kerosene stove; Foreign Collaboration in Coal industry (b) whether the demand is being fully met at present; 3344. SHRI CHITTA BASU: Will (c) whether it is a fact that this the Minister of ENERGY AND COAL stove is at present available only in be pleased to state: the capital; and (a) whether Government have any (d) if so, steps taken to make it proposal under its consideration for easily available in other parts of the tie-up with coal industry of foreign country? countries especially, U.K., France, Japan, Poland, Hungary etc.; and THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, (b) if so, the progress so far made CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS in this direction? (SHRI VERENDRA PATIL): (a) The total demand of Nutan kerosene THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE stoves has been estimated at 15 lakhs MTNJISTTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI pieces per year. VIKRAM MAHAJAN): (a) Yes, Sir. (b) No, Sir. The Government have received pro- posals irom U.K., France, Poland, (c) No, Sir. It is marketed in the West Germany and Romania for as- Union Territory of Delhi, as well as sistance in the development Of coal in a number of other States/Union industry in India. Territories. 109 Written Answers ASADHA 17,1902 (SAKA) Written Answers no (d) In order to maximise produc- (e) With assistance of the USSR tion to meet the demand in the coun- deep exploratory drilling is being try, National Small Industries Cor- taken up at Rokhia in Tripura by the poration (NSIC), New Delhi is set- ONGC. Contracts for cooperation in ting up a number of units in diffe- the matter of seismic surveys in West rent locations of the country for pro- Bengal and Tripura with the USSR duction of stoves in the small scale are also under consideration. sector as per the Government policy. Agreement with Rumania for search of Petroleum Super Thermal Power Station at Farakka 3346. SHRI P. M. SAYEED: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS be pleased to state: 3347. SHRI TRIDIB CHAU- DHURY: Will the Minister df (a) whether it is a fact thfet the En e r g y AND COAL be pleased Humaman Government have agreed to to state: help India in search of petroleum; (a) progress made s0 far towards (b) if so, whether any agreement the actual construction of the sup6r- has been signed in this regard; thermal power station at Farakka; (c) whether India has such type of and agreements with other countries also; (b) has any decision been taken for (d) whether U.S.A., France, and the location of the administrative U.K. has also offered India its finan- offices and headquarters for this cial assistance and other help in oil super-thermal power station outside exploration; and of Farakka? (e) if so, what are the places anc* with whose assistance the explora- tions are being carried in India dur- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN ing the current year? THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI VIKRAM MAHAJAN): (a) Consi- THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, derable progress has been made in the CHEMICALS & FERTILIZERS infrasructural development at the (SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL): (a) site of the Farakka Super Thermal During {he recent visit of the Ruma- Power Station in respect of land nian Minister of Machine Building acquisition, engineering survey and Industry, discussion, regarding Roma- soil investigation. Work on tempor- nian interest in taking up explora- ary township at the site is in pro- tion activities in India, took place. gress. Site levelling activity is also being carried out and about 1.40 (b) No, Sir. lakhs cubic metres of earthwork has been completed. Other design and (c) Since no agreement has been project activities have also been taken signed with Romania, question of such up and are progressing as per agreements with others -does not arise schedule. (d) Offers of cooperation have (b) No decision has been taken for been received from UK. and Franco locating the administrative offices and through their public sector compa- Headquarters for the power station nies. outside of Farakka. I l l Written Answers JULY 8, 1980 Written Answers 112 Resumption of drilling 0 1 Off-shore court fees were generally high and and On-shore at Narsapur needed to be reconsidered. 3348. SHRI KUSUMA KRISHNA (b) and (c). Court fees levied in MURTHY: Will the Minister of courts in States (i.e. other than the PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS be Supreme Court and courts in Union pleased to state: territories) are a matter within the exclusive jurisdiction of the State Governments. The suggestion of the (a) the real implications involved Law Commission that court fees may delaying the resumption of off- in be abolished or reduced was taken shore and on-shore drilling operation up with the State Governments in at Narsapur in Andhra Pradesh; and 1975, but none of them were agreeable (b) whether he proposes to visit to reduce the court fees mainly on the ground of financial stringency. the place personally? In the recent meeting of the Consul- THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, tative Committee of the Ministry of CHEMICALS Sc FERTILIZERS Law, 'Justice and Company Affairs, (SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL): (a) the consensus was that a small Sub- No delay has occurred in the resump- Committee comprising a few mem- tion of onshore and offshore drilling bers of the Consultative Committee operations at Narsapur in Andhra should be set up to go into this ques- Pradesh. tion and make concrete suggestions in respect of the items on which court (b) Minister (PC&F) may visit fees should be levied in the trial Narsapur sometime in the latter part courts, the rates on which it should of 1980. be levied, the items on which it should be abolished, the measures required in this context to discourage Redaction in High Court Fees litigation, and the category of liti- gants who should be exempt from paying the court fees. The Govern- 3349. SHRI BHIKU RAM JAIN: ment would take further appropriate Will the Minister of LAW, JUSTICE action after this Sub-Committee has AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleas- given its recommendations in this ed to state: regard and would take up the matter (a) whether he had observed, dur- with the States. ing the centenary celebrations of the Kakinada Courts on June 14, 1980, that the court fees in India were too Reasons for less Hydel generation of high and needed to be reduced dras- D.V.C. power system tically; (b) if so, the measures proposed 33&0. SHRI R. P. DAS: Will the to be taken by Government to abolish Minister of ENERGY AND COAL be totally or reduce the same in order to pleased to state: benefit the poor litigants; and (a) the reasons for comparatively (c) the details thereof? less hydel generation of the DVC Power system during the year 1978-79 THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUS- than that of the previous year; TICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER): (a) (b) whether it was due to break While inaugurating the centenary down of the Panchet Hydel station; celebrations of the Kakinada courts, I had observed inter alia that the (c) nature of break down; and U 3 Written Answers ASADHA 17, 1902 (SAKA) Written Answers (d) why there was inordinate de- Expansion of Ranchi Station oi A.I.R- lay to bring back to its normalcy and the reasons therefor? 3351. KUMARI KAMLA KUMARI; Will the Minister of INFORMATION THE MINISTER OF STATE IN AND BROADCASTING be pleased THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI to state: VIKRAM MAHAJAN): (a) A state- (a) whether Government propose ment showing hydel generation in the to expand the capacity of Ranchi, DVC power system during 1977-78 A.I.R. to facilitate the people of and 1978-79 is enclosed. Chhotanagpur as the range of Ranchi is very limited; and • (b) to (d). Due to damage to the turbine blades the Panchet Hydel (b) if not, the reasons thereof? Unit had to be shut down. As the repairs were of a major nature, it THE MINISTER OF STATE IN took more than the usual time to re- THE MINTSTRY OF INFORMATION commission the Unit. The Unit is . AND BROADCASTING (SHRIMATI now functioning satisfactory. RAM DULARI SINHA): (a) A scheme to upgrade the power of the Statement Ranchi medium wave transmitter Hjdro-tlectric zenernhon in DVC from 10 KW to 200 KW has recently {MK WH) been appioved for implementation. When this new transmitter is com- missioned, the whole of Chhotanagpur M onth 1977-78 *978-79 Division will be covered. (b) Does not arise. April 7 0 6 0 Extent of operation of Rehabilitation M ay 7 0 b 0 Department June 16 0 8 0 3352. SHRI KUNWAR RAM: Will the Minister of SUPPLY AND REHA- July 66 0 31 0 BILITATION be pleased to state whether there is any proposal to ex- August • 60' 0 34 0 pand the area of operation of his Ministry to include rehabilitation of September 29 0 37 0 people affected by cyclone and other natural or man-made calamities? October 20 0 35 0 THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE November 9 0 13 0 MINISTRY OF SUPPLY AND RE- HABILITATION (SHRI P. K. December IO* c» 10 0 THUNGON): No, Sir. lanuaiy 10 0 11 0 Generation of power by different sources February 6 0 11 0 3353. SHRI B. R. NAHATA: Will March • 8 0 22 0 the Minister of ENERGY AND COAL be pleased to state: 254 o 224 o (a) what has been the annual generation of the power by the -i 15 Written Answers JULY 8, 1980 Written Answers 116 , different sources in the country dur- (1) Maximising generation from ing the last three years and what the existing installed capacity in was the demand during these years; the Central Sector by evolving betterment cum renovation pro- (b) whether the generation is grammes and implementing the same on a time bound programme. sufficient to meet the growing de- State Governments are also being mand for power in the country; and assisted to take similar steps to maximise generation from their (c) what are the steps being taken installed capacity. immediately by Government to meet the requirements of the people and industry? (2) Expenditing commissioning of new generation capacity in the Central Sector and advising the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN States to take similar steps. THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI VIKRAM MAHAJAN): (a) A state- ment showing the generation of power (3) Monitoring of coal stocks at from the hydro, thermal and nuclear thermal power stations and ensur- power station in the country and the ing availability of cool. requirement of power during the years 1977-78, 1978-79 and 1979-80, is attached. (4) Transfer of power from sur- plus to deficit areas. (b) No, Sir. During the year 1977-78, shortage was of the order of (5) Arranging supply of spare 15.5 per cent, during 1978-79 it was parts from indigenous and foreign 10.3 per cent and during 1979-80 it suppliers. was 16.10 per cent. (c) A number of measures have (6) Additions of over 19000 MW been and are being taken to improve of new generating capacity is being power availability in the country. planned for installation during the "These measures include: Sixth Plan period 1980—85. Statement Energy generation and requirement of energy in the country during 1977-78, 1978-79 and 1979-80 (Fig. in million units) Generation Requirements •Year Hydro Thermal Nuclear Total <1977-78 3796i 5*962 2273 92196 102180 -1978-79 . 47138 53420 2770 103328 108535 ,1979-80 r . 45494 57*55 2876 105525 118370 Written Answers ASADHA 17, 1902 (SAKA) Written Answers n 8 Central Electricity Authority manpower training for manning po- wer supply industry, making arrange- ments for investigation of power 3354. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: projects and promoting research in Wiil the Minister of ENERGY AND matters relating to the power supply COAL be pleased to state: industry. In addition, CEA also dis- charges certain functions which have (a) whether it has been alleged develoved on it from its predecessor that the Central Electricity Autho- organisation the CW&PC (Power rity (CEA) constituted under a Wing). These include providing statute is, only a technical secre- design and consultancy seivices and tariat of the Ministry^ only a Central processing foreign exchange require- Office without any authority; and ments of the power supply industry. (b) if so, the facts thereof and The Authority is constituted to Government’s reaction thereto? have a Chairman and five full-time Members, who also have ex-efficio THE MINISTER OF STATE IN ’status of Secretary and Additional THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI Secretaries to the Government of VIKRAM MAHAJAN); (a) and (b). India respectively. The Central Electricity Authority is a statutory organisation constituted In view of its responsibilities and under Section 3 of the Electricity status, it would not be correct to (Supply) Act 1948. The Central assume that the CEA is only a tech- Electricity Authority’s principal sta- nical Secretariat of the Ministry or a tutory responsibilities as originally Central office without any authority. envisaged are development of Q sound, adequate and uniform national policy in relation to the control and utilisa- tion of power resources, arbitration in matters arising between the State Government or the Board and the 3355. w r licensee or any other person, and col- tfsft mt f^T mrr\ • lection and recording of statistical in- I * f formation relating to the power (m) spffaMTt % fw fagpft supply industry and making public srftrens -ufar *£t vi % firertf such information. The CEA is also ^ fm, srftrsrcr mr t required to techno-economically ap- praise the power projects formulated srfdWT^r m\ forr wr tfr* by the State Electricity Boards to *R*nT apt *rrfw ensure that they are consistent with I < ; the National Power Policy and that they represent optimum development (sr) w Tf&mt fafapr vrfa ^t of the national power resources. 5jfo?TcT to t % ; Recognising the key role that the (*t ) mt CEA would have to play in furthering power development in the country, in fW5T t ? 1976, its responsibilities were en- larged to include aspects such as for- Haft (sft «n«t) : (m) mulation of long term and perspec- XT^ fa*T*T & (^% tt f ^ x q -TTy) i tive plans, providing advice to State Governments, SE&s and other organi- (*) TTJp f^r sations on optimal utilisation of i available facilities, providing assis- tance for the timely completion of (*t) ®€t zftwj, 1980-85 E rn m r schemes, making arrangements for fan: *rr | i Ii9 W ritten Answers JULY 8, 1980 Written Answers 120 fw « r—q* w*rf?r *nff Tr^cff s*ff TTKft $rf^wrr *[ftrcr x? «rhc % ?r t 3R1 tfr *r£ iffaf'T ?r aft *rf TTRl % TT^r flST* cFF g'fTT ^TT^ ST^RTF afff ^ Hd'l' *r»ft focrf % afrc nfcT- «rr tTTf5T«W f%^Tf f l W 5J%- §WZT qT: fa*r3r *frjr?rr-^ *FT ?tt«t vft srrfw f ) 5^f jftsr^r 14665.25 24 9 2 .2 6 1 6 .9 9 1977-78 24.8 21.2 85.47 14.53 ( 1974- 78) I 1978-79 5756.43 977.15 16.97 1978- 79 25.8 22.0 85.27 14.73 1979- 80 6549.34 1079.13 16.48 1979- 80 26.7 22.9 85.77 14.23 (siftTurer)/ ■■ r i , i --**-- \ finnro—*> f ^ c r trf^r v t Tnnnrrx sjf^ r^ rr ( 1976- 77% *rr?ri) (^m: TT wr *pt ; fafacT ^rr£ arrf XT^T 5T3" ^ ^rr^Wr ftrfa'T SR^T qff WWcTT 1 2 3 4 ot to st**r 4,156 1 1,863 35 0 . 572( ^ ) 3,31 1 17.3 fa fR 3,604 11,325 31 . 8 ^sfTHT 1, 373 (*T) 10,189 13. 5 ^fW^TT 2,698 5,282 51 . 1 f ^ n ^ r s r ^ r 155 929 16. 7 3p*T * w f)R 380 936 4 0 . 6 * • 1,467 9,864 14. 9 %T*T •• • 373 2,934 12. 7 TVW 5T%t?T # # # 2,050 20,856 9 .8 Written Answers ASADHA 17, 1902 (SAKA) Written Ansxcers i 2 2 1 2 3 4 . . . • . 2,220 19,740 11 :2 (*) • « 0 « • 75 208 36. 1 . S te m ♦ • • . • 46(*) 204 22. 5 smrrfo • « O' •• 40 115 34. 8 . sfforr • • • • • 1,383 7,209 r 19. 2 ^^rrw • • • • • 5,080 6,285 80. 8 * • • • • 2,972 16,898 17. 6 fafar* 9 ♦ •« *1• « 3,001 7,147 22. 0 %5TT (* ) • * 0 • 4 30(®) 7,386 7. 8 ^TT5r^?r »• • « « 9,741 23,152 42. 1 «f*rrw * • • • . h 54l ( ^ ) 7,632 20. 2 «n^TT^T %f\x fM»t#rc #f si^r • • 0 •• 24 130 18. 5 srrcrr sftr *t pr «• « «* 1 20 5. 0 f ^ fr • •• • 0 72 116 62. 8 *Tt«T, ft* (tr) • • « •• 12 143 8.4 srsresYq . ♦ • •• -- 3 -- fH'jfUH . • i • * 8 (* ) 105 7.6 •• 0 • 0 38 50 76. 0 fTfaw *TRcl • - • • • 43,1 16 1, 67,065 25, 8 ( « ) 1953-54 *TRTf?SnS (*r) z\<> % srrqrf mmx vx (q) ^ (V) 1974-75 ft (*f) ^ 1967- 68 ft tf*3rfeRT (s) ^ 1973-74 ft (*r) *nr 1975-76 ft .. j . . > r»ri»» nnowrr? ju i-r «, IWP wntien Answers 124 Recommended for change of sit 2 of Providing water Irom Polavaram Mathura Refinery barrage to Visakhapatnam 3356. DR. KARAN SINGH: Will 3357. SHRI V. KISHORE CHAN- the Minister of PETROLEUM AND DRA S. DEO: Will the Minister of CHEMICALS be pleased to state: IRRIGATION be pleased to state: (a) whether the Select Committee (a) whether the Government of on the Prevention on Air Pollution Andhra Pradesh has sent any propo- Bill 1978 has strongly recommended sal to the Centre for providing that the proposed site of the Mathura water from Polavaram barrage to Refinery be changed in order to mi- Visakhapatnam; nimize the pollution hazard to the (b) if so, the action taken there- Taj Mahal and the Mathura area; and on? (b) if so, what steps Government are taking in this behalf? THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION (SHRI K£DAR PANDEY): (a) Yes, Sir. THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS (b) The Polavaram Project Report (SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL): (a) Stage-T received in the Central Water an<3 (b). The Select Committee on 1 Commission from the Government of the Prevention of Air Pollution Bill Andhrn Pradesh in December 1978 1978 had inter alia recommended that provides for water supply to Visakha- the Government should “look into the patnam, through the left bank canal. Refinery problem afresh and examine The project report was examined in the feasibility of shifting at least the the Commission and co m m en ts were most polluting units of the Refinery t»o sent to the State Government in Sep- the Etawah Region” and that “the tember and November 1979, and May, treated liquid effluents which are like- 1980. The State Officers have also ly to poison the already polluted been requested to discuss the com- drinking water of the Agra region, ments with the Central Water Com- should if possible be conveyed through mission and provide clarifications as a pipeline and discharged into the necessary. river at a suitable point down-stream of Agra or Etawah to protect the drinking water supply”. Proposal from Tamil Nadu for an Off- shore power plant These recommendations were exa- mined by the Government. It was 3358. SHRr C. CHINASWAMY: found that it is technically no pos- Will the Minister of ENERGY AND sible to locate the polluting units else- COAL be pleased to state: where and keep the offsite facilities such as storage tanks for crude oil (a) whether Government have and petroleum products, blending, received any proposal from Tamil loading and unloading arrangements Nadu Electricity Board to start an at Mathura. As regards the dis- off-shore power plant to generate charge of treated effluents from the electricity from the sea; refinery, it is felt that in view of the (b) if so, the details thereof; and considerable expertise already avail- able in the country as well as the (c) when Government are going measures already adopted/proposed to consider the proposal? to be taken in this regard, it will not be necessary to re-route treated effl- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN uent ‘water for discharging, down- THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI stream of Agra. VTKRAM MAHAJAN): (a) to (0. 125 W itten Answers ASADHA 17, 1902 (SAKA) Written Answers u 6' The Tamil Nadu Electricity Board Hyderabad, Medak, Nagonda and have sent a proposal from the Ge- Mehboob Nagar districts are covered neral Electric of U.S.A. for the in- by the T.V. station at Hyderabad. vestigation and design of a 25 MW ocean thermal energy conversion (b) m i (c). No, Sir. The T. V. (OTEC) plant. The proposal in- transmitter at Hyderabad is situated cludes the following tasks: — at a distance of 15 kms. from the studio. All the programmes tele- (1) Site evaluation and selection. cast from Hyderabad TV station are pre-recorded in the studio and the (2) Environmental impact study. video tapes are sent t0 transmitter (3) Power module design. for telecast. As news bulletins are instant and live telecast, *these can- (4) Plat-form/Ship design. not be pre-recorded and sent to the (5) Cold water pipe design. transmitter for telecast. Telecast of news bulletins could be considered (6) Utility interface and cable de- when a micro-wave link is establish- sign. ed between the studio and the trans- ^mitter. This link is expected to be The estimated cost to perform a commissioned in 1981. six-month preliminary design phase has been indicated $373400. A guess estimate indicates that OTEC Programmes at Sambalpur T.V. Centre first plant costs would be less than $5000 per KW and may be as low as 3360. DR. KRUPASINDHU BHAI: $2200 per KW but are very site speci- Will the Minister of INFORMATION fic. The OTEC technology is still AND BROADCASTING be pleased in the process of research and develop- to state: ment in several advanced countries (a) whether it is a fact that after and requires a great deal of techno- commissioning of the T. V. Centre logical development to establish a at Sambalpur the programmes are viable OTEC system. The proposal prepared at Cuttack; has not been taken up. (b) wether Government have received representation from the Hyderabad r, V. Station people of Sambalpur District for set- ting up of a Doordarshan Studio* at 3359. SHRI P. RAJAGOPAL Sambalpur so as to enable the local NAIDU: Will the Minister of IN- people to participate in the pro- FORMATION AND BROADCASTING grammes; be pleased to state; (c) if so, the action taken thereon; (d) the time fixed for telecast (a) the districts covered by the from the Centre; T. V. Station at Hyderabad; (e) whether Government propose (b) whether news bulletins are to allow more time for telecast to issued from the above T. V. Station; include more local programme .from the station if so, details; and and (f) if not, the reasons thereof? (c) if not, the reasons therefor? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING (SHRIMATI AND BROADCASTING (SHRIMATI RAM DULARI SINHA): (a) Bnd RAM DULARI SINHA): (a) Parts of (b). Yes, Sir. # 127 Written Answers JULY 8, 1980 Written Answers 128 (c) It has not been possible to set for such election incurs a considerable up a Doordarshan Studio at Sambal- expenditure. All the same several pur on account of constraints on re- persons with very little resources have* sources. However, for the produc- either with the help of a political tion of programmes of local content, party or of the voters, contested elec- Mobile Film and Video Units have tions and a number of them have been provided at Sambalpur. been successful. (d) One hour and 15 minutes daily, (d) No such proposal is under con- 'except Saturday, when total duration sideration at present. of transmission is three hours for telecast of feature film. Radio and T.V. Stations in Karnataka (e) Yes, Sir. It is proposed to in- 3362. SHRI D. M. PUTTE GOWDA: troduce an afternoon educational pro- Will the Minister of INFORMATION gramme for schools for duration of AND BROADCASTING be to 20 minutes w.e.f. August, 1980. pleased state: (f) Does not arise (a) whether it is a fact that radio stations installed in Karnataka are not Expenditure incurred by candidate in powerful and thus the programmes are elections not clearly audible in villages situated at a distance of above 60 miles, from 3361. SHRI R. R. BHOLE: Will the radio stations; Minister of LAW, JUSTICE AND (b) whether Government propose COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state: to instal a powerful shcxt-wave radio station at Bangalore; if so, when; (a) whether Government are (c) when Government propose to aware that a candidate for Assem- Commission Bangalore T.V. Centre, bly or Parliament elections has to reasons for delay; and spend a very large sum of money; (d) what will be the area covered (b) whether a poor candidate with by Bangalore T.V. Centre and whether very little resources cannot stana for Government have any proposals to set •election; up T.V. Centres at other places in (c) are Government aware that Karnataka, if so, the details thereof? he is barred from standing because he is poor; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION (d) whether Government propose AND BROADCASTING (SHRIMATI to bear the expenses of candidate’s RAM DULARI SINHA): (a) The 50 workers, transport and printing ma- KW MW transmitter at Bangalore terial in such elections? and the 10 KW MW transmitter at Dharwad have ^ range of more than THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUSTICE 60 miles. Gulbarga 10 KW MW trans- AND COMPANY AFFAIRS; (SHRI mitter has a range 0f more than 60 P. SHIV SHANKAR): (a) to (c). miles in south-West direction only. There is no legal provision which re- The range of 20 KW MW transmitter quires a candidates for an Assembly or at Udipi is expected to be about 60 Parliamentary election to spend a lar- miles only in the northern direction. ge sum of money. There is also no The range of the 20 KW MW trans- provision in any law which disqualifies mitter at Bhadravati, 1 KW MW a perspn from standing for such elec- transmitter at Mysore, 1 KW MW tion 0n the ground of poverty. Never- transmitter at Mangalore, l KW MW theless, it is a reality that candidate transmitter at Bangalore and 1 KW Written Answers ASADHA 17, 1902 (SAKA) Written Answers 130 MW transmitter at Dharwad i* town to the South of Barathapuzha less than 60 miles. outlet some three years back, damag- ing roads and hutments, but no da- There is an approved Plan scheme to mage has been reported since then. upgrade the power of Dharwad trans- mitter to 2 00 kw which will improve At Veliyankodi, a groyne has been the coverage in the State considerably. constructed at the river outlet and this However, the implementation of this has helped in the prevention of erosion scheme will depend on the availabilty in that area. Further, there is a pro- of resources. posal to construct a sea wall for a length of 1 km during 1980-81. The (b) In the perspective Plan for the area is under constant what by the development 0f broadcasting in Eigh- Slate Government and furttfer protec* ties, prevision has been made for the lion works will be taken, if found installation of a 50 kw short-wave necessary. transmitter at Bangalore. The imple- mentation of this scheme, however, Farakka Barrage Project will depend on the availability of re- 1 sources and the relative priorities. 3364. SHRI ZAINUAL ABEDIN: (c) Bangalore TV Centre is likely Will the Minister of IRRIGATION be to be commissioned in 1982-83. pleased to state: (d) The area expected to be covered (a) whether Government are aware by the Bangalore TV Centre is 18.000 that since the Farakka Barrage Pro- Sq. Kms. Plans for setting up of TV ject has begun functioning, thousands Centres at other places in K arnataka of acres of cultivable land has been are yet to be finalised. lying under water and thereby causing immense loss to the poor farmers; Protection Wall along the Sea Coast (b) if so, whether any scheme is from Ponnani to Valiyankodi, Kerala under consideration of the Govern- ment for making the land cultivable 3363. SHRi G. M. BANATWALLA: again; Will the Minister of IRRIGATION be pleased to state: (c) if so, the details thereof; and (a) whether Government are aware (d) whether Government proposes of the pressing need for a sea-wall to compensate for the loss being incur- from Ponnani to Valiyankodi (Kerala) red by the poor farmers? to protect the poor fishermen from the constant grave threat of sea-encroach- THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION ment and consequent annual loss of (SHRI KEDAR PANDAY): (a) lives and huts; and Yes. Sir. (b) if so, whether Government pro- (b) and (c). A scheme for develop- pose to examine the matter and take ment of low-lying areas of the Pagla- necessary steps in this direction? Bansloi basin affected by Farakka Feeder Canal waters and to make THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION available such areas for rabi cultiva- (SHRI KEDAR PANDAY): (a) tion has been sanctioned «*u an estimat- and (b). The Kerala Government has ed cost of Rs. 4.12 crores. reported that the reach from Ponnani The scheme envisages construction to Valiyankodi about 10 km in length of regulators on Pagla and Bansloi is not subjected to severe erosion. rivers and a northward drainage*chan- There was an overflow in Ponnani nel with a regulator to control the 1205 LS—5. Written Answers JULY 8, 1980 Written Answers 132 flow. The implementation of the % ff»TT **r * faq % «rr? scheme would ensure availability of 5T»Hnr snf^n^r antnrr 1 more or less the same agricultural be- nefits which used to be derived from mfimw $ 7 the low-lying areas prior to operation —JJ3RIVT, WW 5T^rf TTfr^r^ Setting up of a power plant te Kutch THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS (SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL): No, 3366. SHRI P. GAEKWAD: Will Sir. However, continuous efforts ' are the Minister of ENERGY AND COAL being made to narrow down, the gap be pleased to state; between demand and domestic pro- duction of fertilizers by optimising the (a) whether Government have production in the existing units and taken a decision to set up a power by setting up substantial additional plant based on lignite resources in capacity for production of fertilizers. Kutch; (b) what will be its generating Global Tenders issued for supply of capacity; Power Equipment (c) when the proposed plant is likely to start generating power, and 3368. D>R VASANT KUMAR PAN- when the work of setting up the plant . D IT: Will the Minister of ENERGY will be completed; and AND COAL be pleased to state: (d) whether the components of the (a) how many global tenders were plant are likely to be imported; if so, issued by various projects in India for foreign exchange involved in it? supply of power equipment during 1978, 1979 and 1980; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (b) whether National Thermal THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI Power Corporation, a public sector VIKRAM MAHAJAN): (a) Yes, Sir. undertaking decided in favour of Italian group to supply power equip- (b) The station will have a generat- ment for the Ramgundam Super ing capacity of 120 MW with two units Thermal Project; of 60 MW each. (c) whether it is a fact that during (c) Both the units are expected to the last five years several complaints be commissioned in 1985-86. have been received against the BHEL for inferior quality, delay in supply (d> The scheme, has been cleared and defective material in the power for implementation on the basis that equipment supplied by them; and the supply of plant and equipment will be from indigenous sources. (d) whether the department of Heavy Industry is thinking of block- ing the issue of Global Tenders by Indian Projects? TH E MINISTER OF STATE IN Self-Sufficiency in Fertilizer THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI VIKRAlv; MAHAJAN): (a) The im- port policy of the Government of India @3367. SHRI D. P. JADEJA: Will all \\n for invitation of global tenders the Minister of PETROLEUM AND for import of power generating equip- CHEMICALS be pleased to state whe- ment Thp recommendations# made ther any target has been fixed when on th e basis of these global tenders are the country will be self sufficient in to be considered by an Empowered fertilizer production? Committee chaired by the Secretary, Written Answers JULY 8, 1980 Written Answers 136 *35 Department of Heavy Industry which ture of potable alcohols such as examines the recommendations before Arrack, country liquors and foreign giving final clearance. Information re* liquors; and garding the number of global tenders floated during 1978, 1979 and 1980 is (c) what are the steps taken by the being obtained from the project autho- Government of India to ensure that rities. poisonous ingredients are permitted in the manufacture of potable alco- hols in the country? (b) Yes Sir. On the basis of global tendering required under the provi- sions of th® IDA Credit being received THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, for the project. CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS (SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL): (a). (c) During the last five years, indi- At present the main industries using genous equipment manufactured by rectified spirit in India include syn- major plant manufacturers like Bharat thetic rubber, polyethylene, styrene, Heavy Electricals Ltd., ACC-Vickers-‘ P.V.C., acetic acid, acetic anhydride Babcock and Instrumentation Ltd., Butanol, ethyl acetate and 2-ethyl Kota, have been commissioned in the hexanol. country. The first generation equip- ment had many teething problems. (b) Yes, Sir. These have been overcome in most of the stations. The second generation equipment manufactured by M/s. Bha- (c) State Governments exercise st- rict supervision under their respective rat Heavy Electricals Ltd. and Instru- Excise Laws on the manufacture of mentation Ltd., Kota, are performing potable liquors to ensure that poison- much better and there are fewer com- ous ingredients are not mixed in pot- plaints. able liquors. (d) Government is examining a pro- posal to review the current policy on import of equipment for the genera- tion, transmission and distribution of Yearly Production of Chemicals power. 3370. SHRI A. NEELALOH1THA- DASAN: Will the Minister of PET- ROLEUM AND CHEMICALS be pleas- ed to state: Industrial uses of rectified spirit (a) what has been the total pro- 3369. SHRI A. NEELALOHITHA- duction of the following in India in DASAN NADAR: Will the Minister each of the years 1974 to 1980: — of PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS be pleased to state: (i) Chloral Hydrate, (ii) Barbitu- rates, (iii) Organophospherous chemicals, (iv) Benzeno Hexa- (a) what are the industrial uses of Chloride, (v) Potassium cyanide, rectified spirit in India at present; and (vi) Nicotive sulphate; and (b) ^re Government aware of the (b) are Government aware that fact that one of the main uses of Chloral hydrate is indiscriminately rectified spirit in Kerala obtained used by Abkari contractors in some from other State* is in the manufac- States in India like Kerala? 137 Written Armotrs ASADHA 17,1002 (SAKA) Written Answers 138 THE MINISTER OP PETROLEUM, The reported indigenous production of CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS the following in each of the year 1975 (SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL): (a> -<-1980 is as follows: 1975-76 1976-77 1977-78 1978-79 1979-80 (i) Chloral Hydrate (Rs.) . 355*198 574-8 Nil Nil Nil (ii) Barbiturates (Tonnes) (Phrro- baritone) 1381 13*55 27 54 20-53 26 4T (iii) Organo Phosphorous chcmicals • (tonnes) to? (a) Malathion • 1636 1873 2047 2845 2121 (b) Methyl Parathion • u 99 927 *554 2242 2533 (c) Feritrothion • 234 129 312 401 35° (d) Metasystox • 67 if 2 164 208 140 (e) Dimethoate ■ 462 466 6‘15 721 804 (f) Phosphamidon . • 189 295 442 563 585 (g) DDVP . • 182 130 2< 7 278 218 (h) Quinalphos ’ • 142 210 29I 379 545 (i) Panthoate « Nil Nil 55 11 Nil (j) Monocrotophos . ■ Nil Nil Nil 46 441 (iv) Benzene Hexa-Chloride • 23924 24590 28646 35254 31829 (v) Potassium Cynide . Nil Nil Nil Nil Nil (vi) Nicotive sulphate (There is no b\produet in tl’is name. Therr is however, a byproduct ‘Nicotjne sulphate" the production statistics of which are not known). (b) No, Sir. Yearly production of Chloral Hydrate (c) what are the non-pharmaceuti- during 1975—89 cal uses of the hydrate and what were the quantities of the hydrate consumed by non-pharmaceutical industries in 3371. SHRI A. NEELALOHITH A - each of the above years? DASAN: Will tfce Minister of PET- ROLEUM AND CHEMICALS be pleas- THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, ed to state: CHMICALS AND FERTILIZERS (SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL): (a) (a) what was the yearly production The reported production of chlorai of Chloral hydrate In the yeare 1975— hydrate by Hindustan Insecticides 80; Limited during 1975-76 and 1976-77 te 355.198 kgs. and 574-8 kgs. respective- (b) what were the quantities of the ly. During 1977-78, 1978-79 ar^d 1979- above hydrate required by the phar- 80, there has been reportedly no pro- maceutical industry in each of the duction of chloral hydrate by Hinds- above years; and tan Insecticides Limited Written Answers JULY 8, 1980 Written Answers 140 (b) The pharmaceutical use of chlo- (b) scheme-wise the loan sanction- ral hydrate was as a sedative but due ed and released by R.E.C. to the Gov- to its extensive adverse effects, it is ernment of Orissa up to the current not being used as a sedative in the financial year; pharmaceutical industry in our coun- (c) Block-wise the proposal made try. by the Government of Orissa to elec- (c) Inforn.atiO*i ^ 1; ^l-^’ia inaceu- trify the villages and electrified so far tical uses of chloral hydrate is not under the scheme; available. (d) scheme-wise the villages pro- posed to be electrified in current Badanallahrirrig^tion project of Orissa financial year and funds released for the same; and 3372. SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMAN- GO: Will the Minister of IRRIGA- (e) the measures taken by the Gov- TION be pleased to refer to the iepl> ernment of Orissa and the REC to given to Unstarred Question No. 104 avoid delay in executing the schemes? on 20th November, 1978 regaiding Badanailah Irrigation project and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN state: THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI VIKRAM MAHAJAN): (a) to (c). (a) when the Badanailah project The Rural Electrification Corporation report was received by the Central Ltd.t has, upto 30th June, 1980 sanc- Water Commiss'on; tioned 23 rural electrification schemes (b) the measures taken by his in Koraput District of Orissa. The Ministry for early clearance of that scheme-wise details, including the project; and names of Blocks covered, loan amount sanctioned, loan amount disbursed, (c) if not yet received, the reasons villages proposed to be electrified and for defay? the villages electrified under these schemes are shown in Statement I at- THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION tached. (SHRI KEDAR PANDAY): (a) and (b). The report of Badanailah Irriga- (d) 452 villages are proposed to be tion Project was received in the Can- electrified and funds amounting Rs. tial Water Commission in March’80. 229.149 lakhs are proposed to be re- Comments of the Central Water Com- leased during the year 1980-81 in res- mission were last sent to the Govern- pect of the REC schemes sanctioned in ment of Orissa in June ’80. These Koraput District. Scheme-wise de- were also discussed with the State tails are given in Statement-II attach- Engineers. The clearance of fhe pro- ed. In addition, the Corporation will ject will depend upon compliance/ also be in a position to release more replies to the comments from the loans against technically feasible and State Government. financially viable fresh rural electri- fication schemes that may be spon- (c) Does not arise. sored to it for financial assistance by the Orissa State Eelectricity Board. Loan for rural electrificatioa i> (e) Rural Electrification Schemes Koraput District, Orissa are formulated and implemented by 3373. SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMAN- the Orissa State Electricity Board. The GO: Will the Minister of ENERGY loan sanctioned by the Corporation is AND COAL be pleased to state: released in instalments in advance, the t first instalment on completion of the (a) the names of the Blocks cover, prescribed formalities and the second ed under REC loan scheme in Kora- and subsequent instalments on the put district of Orissa so far; basis of the physical progres? achie- 141 Written Answers ASADHA 17, 1902 (SAKA) Written Answers ved. Besides, the Corporation has a tricity Board and, where considered regular system of monitoring of the necessary, the State Governme/it also, projects being implemented and wher- for taking remedial nfeasures for ex- ever shortfalls are found, the mat- pediting the progress in the imple- ter is taken up with the State Elec- mentation of the schemes Statement I SI. Namo of scheme & blocks Loan san- Loan am- No. of Vi I ge? No. covered ctioned ount dis- villages- electri- upto bursed upto proposed fied as 30-6-80 31-3-80 to be » on VR«. in lakhs) (Rs. in lakhs) electri- 31-3-80 fied under the cheme 1 2 3 4 5 6 1. Kalvansinghpur, Koloivia, Saiat P.S...... 22.820 20.070 61 57 2. Bissam-GuUack, Am') 1 lala 21.918 16.419 55 3- Jeyp )tC E.D , K/up ui, Ii >iigumt 4.623 First in- stalmcn t yet to be tl rawn by SEB. 4 * Kotpad, Kodinga . 45-634 42.167 109 100 5- Boiparingunda, Kundia 61.894 52.609 117 82 6. Lamp lap ut .... 15-357 14.447 13 9 7-Dabugaon .... 79*648 70.184 98 78 8. Narayanputna, Laxmipur, Bondhu- gaon .... 80.811 59-728 H 5 12 9 - Ramnagude, Gudari, Padnmpur 49.628 4 1-^53 91 54 10. Kashipur .... 13.728 6.549 11 Not avail- able 11. Bai iguna .... 3,-87I 29.007 59 50 12. Kalimela, Podia 55-°«3 40-530 118 9 13* Nandapur .... 29.920 25.722 61 29 14. Dasmantpur .... 12.716 12.716 H 2 »5* Raigarh s 55-653 30.609 87 Not avail- able 16. Nawrangpur, Papadahandi 56.461 22.584 9^ Not avail- able *7- Tentuhkunti, Nandahandi 44-777 24.627 70 2 18. Jharigaon-Chandahandi . 79-747 31.899 •73 N ot avail- 143 Written Answers JULY 8, 1980 Written Answers 144 1 2 3 4 5 6 19. Malkangiri ..... 38.884 *5«554 64 Not avail- *' *! 1 $ able 20. M a t h i l i ...... 73.723 29.489 122 Not avail- able | 2r. Rayapada ..... 78.708 3*.4^3 2I4 Not avail- able 22. Korapu* ..... 37.992 58 /"First in- ^stalm ent 23. Jeypore ..... 29.54^ •• 47 f yet to be < drawn by- [SEB Total: 1021.064. 618.266 1925 539 Statement II Si. Name of scheme block No. of Loan insta]- No. villages pro-ment pro- posed to be posed to be electrified disbursed during ’ during 1980-81 1980-81 under the h under the schemes schemes already "T ’""already sanctioned sanctioned 1 2 3 4 (Rs. in lakhs) 1. Kalyansingpur, Kolonara Saral PS ..... 7 2.310 * \ 2. Bissam-Cuttack, Ambadela ...... 13 2.740 3. Jeypore E.D., Kotpad Boriguma ..... 34 *.849 4. Kotpad, Kodinga ...... 9 3.467 5. Boiparigunda, Kundra ...... 35 9*285 6. Lamptaput ...... 4 0.900* 7. Dabugaon ...... 8 5.872 8. Narayanputna, Laxmipur, Bondhugaon ..... 13 a 1.779 9. Ramnagude, Gudari. Padampur ...... 24 7«775 10. Kashipur . . . . , . . . II 7. *79 11. Bariguna ...... 9 2 864 4 12. Kalimeta. Podia ...... 42 8.993 13. N andrpur ...... 18 3.849 145 'Written Answers ASADHA 17, 190? (SAKA) Written Answers 146 I 2 3 4 14. Dasmantpur ..... Fully dis- bursed 15- Raigarh ...... • 20 I3-9I4 16. Nawrangpur, Papadahandi 16.939 *7. Tentulikunti, Nandahandi . . . • • 11 12.401 18. Jharigaon-Chandahnn'li . , , • 23.924 *9- Malkancfiri . . • * • • 26 11.665 20. M athili .....* • 50 22.117 21. Rayapada ..... • 62 23.612 22. Koraput ..... • • • ♦ * *5.*97 23-Jeypore ...... • • . 10.518 Total 452 229.149 N o t l : More villages are likely to b.* rlecinfiftd during 1980-81 in Koraput district under tho new schemes wKich may be submitted by the Orissa State Electricity Board and sanctioned by the Corporation. Licences for expansion to Industrial (c) which of them are MRTP con- Houses dealing in man made fibre cerns? 3374. SHRI S. M. KRISHNA: Will THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, the Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS CHEMICALS be pleased to refer to (SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL): ya) to the reply given to Unstarred Question (c). Detail^ of applications, pending No. 205 dated 10-6-1980 regarding li- before Government for consideration cences issued to industrial houses are not published until after Gov- dealing in man made fibre industry ernment has taken a view thereon. and state: (a) the names of the industrial Concessions sought by large industrial houses whose applications for the is- Houses sue of letters of intent for starting new ventures or expansion of their 3375. SHRI, S. M. KRISHNA: Will existing capacity for nylon filament the Minister of LAW, JUSTICE AND yarn, acetate, acrylic fibre, viscose, COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to nylon chord pulp grade yarn and state: other types of man made fibres are at present under consideration of his (a) whether some large industrial Ministry and the stage at which they houses have approached his Ministry for the grant of some concessions/ Stand; rebate under the Companies Act and (b) the particulars of the expan- Income Tax Act for the shortfall in sion asked for and the quantity of production in their industries owing the new ventures; and to power shortage; Written Answers JULY 8, 1980 Written Answers 148 (b) if so, the details thereof; and 11. TT (Hindi) (c) his reaction thereto? 12. Hinsak Tatwonse Sawadhan (Hindi) THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUS- 13. Trailer of Jalan (Hindi) TICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER): 'a) 14. Trailer of Aur Kaun (Hindi) No, Sir. (b) Following eight films were later (b) and (c). Does not arise certified by the Board in their subse- quent revised °r re-revised versions:- Hindi Films refused Permission by 1. Khel Khilari Ka (Revised) v Censor 2. Darwaza (Revised) 3376. SHRI BHEKHABHAI: Will the 3. Dil Aur Patthar (re-revised) Minister of INFORMATION ANDk 4. Ladki Jawan H 0 Gayee (Re- BROADCASTING bz pleased to lay revised ) a statement showing: 5. ‘771 (R evised) (a) the number and names of Ilindf 6. Trailer of Jalan (R evised) films in which the censoring authority refused permission for screening in 7. Trailer of Aur Kaun (Revised) India during the last three years; 8. Adiyug (Revised) (b) the number and names of films Film Jani Dushman (Hindi) was where the Films Censor Board re- certifies by the Board after voluntary censored the film during the above deletions were carried out b y the pro- period; ducer as a result of ‘Consent Agree- (c) whether any complaints have ment ’ reached in the Bombay High been received against some films; and Court against the ordc-s of the Board of Film Censors and the Central Gov- (d) if so, the number of complaints ernm ent. and the action taken thereon? (c) No complaints with d to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN these films have been received oy Ihe THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION Board. AND BROADCASTING (SHRIMATI RAM DULARI SINHA): (a) The (d) Does not arise. following fourteen short and feature films were refused censor certificate by the Board of Film Censors since beginning of Calendar year 1977:-- 3377. : 5*qr 1. Khel Khilari Ka (Hindi) f^TT far • 2. Darwaza (Hindi) (*r) ^ m r 3. Dil Aur Patthar (Hindi) (Revi- $ *T'T i i sr*rfr «rcrr %; tffa: sed. 4. Ladki Jawan Ho Gayee (H'ndi) (*?) Trfvr sr# mt v i | (Revised) srV ^ m\ $T*fi ? 5. Trailer of Kissa Kursi Ka (Hindi) ftrof tfsft («ft tarc s w r srcr sfa newspapers published from district 5T*wk, i 9791frrtftfargr to * it tt** places from encroachment by big s w ff % *rrar fa^rr *ivr i newspapers? f ® jpr gsrr* fe«rr err %f%5T w w r It ?r *w *w? * t ^ ftrcrf | i rr^r :t w t ?r THE MINISTER OF STATE IN f w t fa yx 'rW r^T q^ v-fr THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION «rrrwT fsrr & *rk S’rfsrt' ^ *rc AND BROADCASTING (SHRIMATI ¥ tf sro 5r|t f «rr t i RAM DULARI SINHA): (a) and (b). Newspapers can come under the pur- view of M.R.7.P. Act on the basis of Grant of licences and contracts *u their assets, inter-connections or do- Attached Offices and Public minance and not on the bas*s of their Undertakings circulation. As on 31-3-1980 the following newspaper undertakings c*re 3378. SHRI K. PRADHANI: Wiii registered, or have been found to be the Minister of PETROLEUM AND registerable, under Section 26 of the CHEMICALS be pleased to state- M.R.T.P. Act, 1969, read with Section !20(a) as the value of their assets, in- (a) the number of licences and cluding the assets of interconnected contracts granted by this Ministry, its undertakings, exceed Rs. 20 cro: er-:— attached offices and related public undertakings during the last six 1. Indian Express Newspapers months along with the details of the (Bombay) Pvt. Ltd., Bombay amount involved in each case; and 2. Indian Express (Madurai) Pvt. (b) whether there is any proposal Ltd., Madras. under the consideration of Govern- 3. Traders Private Limited, Boirfcay. ment to give preference to those per- sons who are unemployed?. 4. Andhra Prabha Private Lini’ted Vijayawada. THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, 5. Newspapers Limited, Allahabad. CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS (c) whether Government would The review of Parliament Proceed- ensure the indigenous ‘know how’ ings is broadcast in English and Hindi and expertise does not suffer on ac- only, and not in any regional langu- count of this collaboration? age. THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, (c) There is no proposal to broad- CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS cast ‘Today in Parliament’ in regional (SHRI VEERENDRA PATTL): (a) languages, since facilities to creed the Off shore drilling is being carried on script to 40 Regional News Unit3 do without collaboration with any foreign not exist. Parliamentary Proceed- country at present. However, the ings are, however, extensively cover- services of foreign contractors and ed in all major News Bulletins includ- drillships etc. are being used ing those regional languages orignat- wherever required. ing from Delhi. (b) and (c). The question whether foreign companies should be permit- Programme to broadcast experience of freedom fighters ted to participate, on suitable com- mercial terms, in exploration for oil 3382. PROF. NARAIN CHAND and gas in our offshore areas is un- PARASHAR: Will the Minister of der the active consideration of Gov- INFORMATION AND BROADCAST- ernment. Care will be taken to see ING be pleased to state: that the interests of indigenous ex- pertise do not suffer in any way in (a) whether Government have the event such permission is granted. drawn up any programme of broad- 153 Written Answers ASADHA 17, 1902 (SAKA) Written Answers 154 casting the ‘Experiences of Freedom Fighters’ from the various stations S. No. Name of All India Radio; (b) whether any such broadcasts 9. Shri Sureshwan Pathak have already been made; 10. Shri Deepnarayan Singh (c) if so, the names of the Free- 11. Shri Kailash Nath Dwivedi dom Fighters whose experiences have 12. Smt. Jara Devi been broadcast; 13. Shri Devi Dutt Kandpal (d) whether any list has been 14. Shri Shankar Rao Maldapurdar prepared for this purpose; 15. Shri Beni Dhur Kanunjo (e) if so, the names of the Free- 16. Shri Faquir Chand Shahu dom Fighters selected for this pur- pose; and 17. Shri Jathedar Mota Singh 18. Smt. Memobai (f) if not, the reasons therefor? 19. Smt. Savitri Sharma THE MINISTER OF STATE IN 20. Shri Boopa Rao Keshar Rao THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION Koyarekar AND BROADCASTING (SHRIMATI 21. Shri Mali Reeva RAM DULARI SINHA) (a) and (b). Experience | reminiscences of freedom 22. Shri Anawaral Navi fighters were recorded in 1972 on the 23. Shri Sajjan Singh occasion of the 25th anniversary of 24. Chaudhury Ranbir Singh Independence. A number of these recordings were utilised in program- 25. Dr. Usha Mehra mes broadcast from various stations 26. Shri Shaligram Agarwal of All India Radio. This is being 27. Shri Haripada Bhattacharji done even now on appropriate oc- casions. 28. Shri Gurubax Rai 29. Shri Lakshmi Chand Mehia (c) to (e). A list of 300 freedom 30. Shri M. S. Shivaram Singh fighters, recording of whose experen- 31. Shri K. A. Keraluyan ce reminiscences are available in AIR archives is enclosed. 32. Shri Kshitish Basu 33. Shri Jagpal Chaudhary (f) Does not arise. 34. Sardar Hari Har Singh 35. Shri K. P. Keshava Menon Statement 36. Shri Chhannu Beesmograe 37. Shri Pran I^al Shah S. No. Name 38. Shri Khemchand Sharma 39. Shri R. L. Purushottama Names of the Freedom Fighters Reddiar 1. Shri Munna Lai Pancholia 40. Shri Appaji Gandhi 2 —do— 41. Shri B. L. Thima Gruda 3. Shri Salig Ram 42. Arun (K. Arunachalam) 4. Shri Sita Ram 43. Monder (R. Muthial) 5. Shri Jadu Gopal Mukherjee 44. Shri P. S. Chinadorai 6. Smt. Savitri Devi 45. Dr. N. Chanderkant Mudaliar 7. Shri Surya Prasad Singh 46. Shri S. R. N. Shesha Bhagava- 8. Shri Mahamaya Prasad Singh thar W r itten Answers JULY 8, 1980 Written Answert S. No. Name S. No. Name 47. Shri A. R. Sawai 85. M aster Adityendra 48. Shri Charan Das 86. Shri Ram Gindoli 49. Shri Laxmi Chand Mehra 87. Gyani Vir Singh £0. Smt. Manno Bai 88. Rani Vidya Devi 51. Shri D. N. Joshi 89. Sumiti Ghosh 52. Shri Gopaliji Bhai 90. Shri Ranbir Singh 53. Shri Mada Deo Prasad 91. Shri Bal Krishan Vithal 54. Shri K. P. Chatterjee 92. Shri Hans Lema 55. Shri T. U. Kashirajan 93. Shri S. P . Alayas 56. Shri K. N. Krishnan 57. Lala Har Dayal 94. Shri K. L. Sharma 95. Shri T. N. Gopalacharey 58. Shri Shivram Singh 96. Dr. T. Mascarenhian 59. Shri Jugal Kishore Chaturvedi 97. Shri Luxman Dutt 60. Shri Gopal Lai Asawa 93. Shri Basuanand Ray Gandhi 61. Shri Ram Karan Joshi 99. Shri Raghubans Narayan Singh 62. Shri Suresh Bhattacharjec 100. Shri Rangesh Sharma 63. Shri Mani Lai Gurudev Shri Shyam Krishan Agarwal 64. Shri A. N. Iswail Sahib 101. 102. Shri Manoranjan Nandi Lasan 65. Shri Sakhanan^ Mishra 103. Shu Nibaran Dutt 66. Shri Bishram Singh 104. Smt. Sneh Lata Dev 67. Shri Nahar Singh Shri V. M. Vishnubharatiyan 68. Shri R. S. Kumar Swami 105. 106. Shri Chandrma Singh 69. Shri R. S. Krishanan . 70. Shri K. T. Ramali ,gam 1 0 7 Shri Ram Pandey 108. Shri Chhavinath Pandey 71. Shri A. R. Savoi 72. Shri Udham Singh 109. Smt. Dev Rani Shri Karpoori Thakur 73. Shri Sakhanand Mishra 110. 74. Shri Prativadi Bhayankrachari 111. Shri Surya Narayan Singh 112. Shri K. P . Kesava Menon 75. Shri B. Ranga Nayakali Varan- gal 113. Smt. A . V. Kutlimalu Amma 76. Shri Shah 114. Shri N. G. Phulari 77. Shri Uma Khan Pathan 315. Shri Girdhari Singh Sainani 78. Miss Mani Bhan 116. Shri Krishna Swami 79. Shri Shankar Narain Joshi 117. Smt Narinjan Kaur 80. Shri Kshivish Basu 118. Shri Ganga Charan Maurya 1 Acharya K. Ramalingam 119. Shri Kartar Singh 82. Shri A. R. Savai 120. Shri R. S. Kumar Swami 83. Shri Salig Ram 121. Shri Biza Ram 84. Sh ri Sit a Ram 122. Shri A. Bala Gopal Written Answers ASADHA 17, 1902 (SAKA) Written A?iswrrs i5» S. No. Name S. No. Name 123. Shri Kamal Nath Tiwari 161. Shri Gaga Tshering 124. Dr. Usha Mehta 162. Shri Ramrishi Dev 125. Shri B. P. Sinha 163. Shri Jagannath Prasad 126. Shri Chandrka Sharma 164. Shri Thakur Prasad Mandal 127. Shri Jagan Nath Prasad Singh 165. Shri Manik Chander Gupta 128. Shri Kedar Mani Shukl 166. Shri Kashinath Malviya 129. Shri H. Manjunatha Rao 167. Shri Rampnt Singh 130. Shri Gulab Chandra Gupta 168. Shri Pyare Lai Gupte 131. Shri Mehant Bhagwat Rao 199. Shri Manjhi Singh 132. Shri Taramel Krishnan 170. Shri Kailash Prasad 133. Smt. Savitri Devi 171. Shri Laldas Gupte 134. Shri Akhori Narain Sinha 172. Shri Ramchaiitra Mehta 135. Shri Luxrni Narain Sulhaushu 173. Shri Avadhnaiain Singh 136. Shri Vaidyanath Chaudhary 174. Shri Prova?h Chandra Roy 137. Shri Chavan Prasad Sahu 175. Shri Shew Mangai Singh 138. Shri Saryu Prasad Mishia 176. Smt Kovapilli Devaki 139. Shri Dev Saran 177. Shri Javadc\a Rao 140. Shri Ram Bhajan Dutt 178. Shri Mohammad Koya 141. Shri Jai Nandan Jha 179. Shri Digendra Acharya 142. Shri Mahendra Shastri 180. Shri Haridesh Ranjan Dag 143. Shri Baldav Chaudhary 181. Shri B. Dutt Roy 144. Maulana Salyed Fazlur Rehman 182. Shri B enoy Bhushan Chowdhury 145. Shri Gulzar Patel 183. Shri Upendranath Deb 146. Shri Inderdeep Singh 184. Shri Chitranjan Dass 147. Shri Jageshwar Prasad Khalish 185. Smt. Chauishilla Deb 148. Shri Surag Nath Chaubey 186. Shri Pranesh Chandra Biswas 149. Shri Prafull Ranjan Raha 187. Shri Suresh Chandra Dey 150. Shri Chappu Nair 188. Shri Sushil Kumar Badra 151. Shri K. Sankaran Nair 189. Shri Hira Lai 152. Shri Bubhuti Bhushan Dey 190. Shri Rati Bhagat Tana 153. Shri Makhan Lai Dey 191. Shri Ratan Lai Jain 154. Shri V K. Achuthan Vaidyar 192. Shri Sarvanand Mishra 155. Smt. Ammu Kuttyamnia 193. Sm t. R ad h ik a Upadh?ya 156. Shri M K. Raghavan 194. Shri Somaia Tana Bhagat 157. Shri Abinash Basu 195. Shri R ad h a Knshan Prasad 158. Shri Brojendra Kumar Basu 196. Shri Pandey Vireshv/anath Rai Roychowdhury 197. Shri Devraj Tiwari 159. Shri Baradakant Bhattacharjee 198. Shri Mahendra Jha 160. Shri Saral Kumar Sengupta 199. Shri Manjhi Singh 1 59 Written Answers JULY 8, 1980 Written Answers 160 S. No. Name S. No. Name 200. Shri Ramji Prasad 240. Shri Bimal Kumar Dasgupta 201. Shri Sukh Deo 241. Shri Ramdeo Tiwari 202. Shri Mukut Dhari 242. Shri Ramanugrah Prasad 203. Shri Lalu Tana Bhagat 243. Shri Sarju Prasad Poidar 204. Shri Sohrai Ram 244. Shri Shanti Gopal Sen 205. Shri Sayad Ali Razia ( 245. Smt. Bhuwneshwari Devi 206. Shri Gopal Ram 246. Shri Shyam Lai Prasad 207. Shri Ram Prasad Dubey 247. Shri Pratul Chandra Mitra 208. Shri Rajendra Singh 248. Shri Jilu Ram Kisan 209. Shri Narain Chandet Lahiri 249. Shri Jaggan Singh 210. Shri Mangal Singh Honliaga 250. Shri Harihar Singh Karmyogi 211. Shri Ganga Prasad 251. Shri Satyanarayan Singh 212. Shri Govardhan Ram 252. Shri Nishitha Nath Kundu 213. Shri Sita Ram Dubey 253. Shri S. G. alias Bhausaheb 214. Shri Upendra Prasad Ranade 215. Shri Shambhunath Tiwari 254. Shri Harihar Gurunath Salgar- 216. Ram Devi Ram karali alias Kavi Kunjavihari 217. Shri Rasi Bhagat Tan* 255. Shri Baburao Bhaurao Kachare 218. Shri Rampujan Tiwari 256. Shri Tatyarao Deoras Desai 219. Shri Sargandhar Singh 257. Shri Rattajirao Balwant Patil 220. Shri Saryu Prasad Gupta 258. Shri Srinivas Shankarrao Khot 221. Shri Saraswati Prasad Mishra 259. Shri Vishnu Waman Nene 222. Shri Bholanath Verma 260. Dr. Uttamrao Girdhar Patil 223. Shri Harpal Yadav 261. Shri Dada Appaji Bard* 224. Shri Yogdhar Mishra 262. Shri K. L. Vaishampayan 225. Shri Usman Gani 263. Shri Dattatraya Ganesh Kale 226. Shri Krishanmohan Sahai 264. Shri Shridhar Purushotta*n 227. Shri Jagannath Prasa^ Limaye 228. Shri Nukul Prasad Sinha 265. Shri Shivram Raghu Maradane 229. Shri Ram Prasad Ram 266. Shri Surendranath Ghosh 230. Shri Nikunju Goswami 267. Shri Damodar Vishnu Ekbote 231. Shri Satya Narain Khandwal 268. Shri Ramchandra Vithal Nisal 232. Shri Lalchand Chourisia 269. Shri Sriniwas Govinds:hari 233. Smt. Kumud Rishi Ahankari 234. Shri Harsh Dev 270. Shri Narhar Laxmanrao 235. Shri R. K. Sinha Kulkarni 236. Shri Kiran Das 271. Shrj Mauli Vishnu Kulkarni 237. Skri Hazari Singh alias Baburao Charankar 238 Shri Nishitha Nath Kundu 272. Shri Bahumiya Dadumiya 239. Shri Nageshwar Baraik Bandwale j 6i Written Answers ASADHA 17, 1902 (SAKA/ Written -Answer# 1^2 Sabu Jain Broup, has been conti- 5. No. Name nuously running into losses and ha* not paid any dividend to its share- 273. Shri D. Gainda Tamat holders for the past over 12 years; _274. Shri Parasmani Prodhan (b) whether the production of 575. Shri Gaya Prasad Chaudhary paper board, cement, clinker etc, 276. Shri Tanuk Lai Yadav has been showing a downward trend 211. Shri Latan Sukla year after year, alongwith its ne* 278. Shri Singh Bhanwar Singh worth; 219. Shri Baja Thakur (c) if so, what is the extent of loss 280. Shri Shyamnararayan Tiwari of revenue to the exchequer, workers 281. Interview with F. F. Gone one and thousands of poor shareholders; Nepali and 282. Shri Garib Das 283. Shri Sonelal Bhagat (d) whether Government propose 284. Shri Rati Lai Mishra to investigate into the affairs of the Company? 285. Shri Kusheshwar Jha 286. Shri Chandrika Mishra THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUSTICE 287. Shri Jatan Ali Mastan AND COMPANY AFFAIRS: (SHRI 288. Janab Abdul Rehman Saheb P. SHIV SHANKAR) (a). A State- 289. Shri Uttarmrao Patil ment showing the profit/foss made by 290. Shri Sita Ram Govmd aUas the company dunng the la3t 12 years Bhao Saheb Ranade is enclosed as Annexure I. Luring these 12 years, the company declared 291. Shri Kriti Narayan Sharma dividend only once for the year 1974- 292. Shri Madan Mohan Singh 75 when it declared a dividend of 6 293. Major Abid Hassan Safarani per cent to its equity shareholders. 294. Karamvir Nabin Chandra Bordoioi (b) A statement showing the figures of production of paper board, cement, 295. Shri Vijay* Narain Sinha clinker etc. and the net worth during 296. Sardar Kultar Singh the past 5 yean: as disclosed in the 297. Shrimati Durga Bhabi Directors’ report attached to the au- dited accounts of the company is en- 298. Shri Yashpal closed as Annexure II. 299. Shri Manmath Nath Gupta 300. Shri Habibui’ Rehman (c) This Department has not made any estimate of the loss of revenue, to the exchequer, workers and share- Eohtas Industries of Sahu Jain Group holders as a result of the fluctuations in prodcution. 3383. PROF. NIRMALA KUMARI SHAKTAWAT: Will the Minister of (d) An inspection under Section LAW, JUSTICE AND COMPANY 209A of the Companies Act, 1956 of AFFAIRS be pleased to state: the books of accounts of the company was conducted in May 1979. The (a) whether he is aware of the Tact that Rohtas Industries Ltd., a matters arising out ol the inspection multiproduct Company belonging to report are being taken up with the company. 1205 L.S.—6. 1^3 W ritten Answers JU L Y 8, 1980 W ritten A n s w e r s 1 6 4 S t a te m e n t ------1 2 3 4 Profitjlass made by Rohtas Indusrties Ltd. for thfi period 1967-68 fo 1978-79 1971-72 . . 52 91 (Rs. in lakhs) 5- 6. 1973-74 - 33-68 SI. No. Year Net Profit Net L oss 7- *974-75 • 156-12 • m 1 9 3 4 8. 1974-75 • 399"*6 1. 1967-68 . *5*97 9- »975-76 • 36 25 a. 1968-69 . 30- 86 10. 1976-77 . . 78- 82 3. 1969-70 . . 13689 •• 11. 1977-78 . . >35‘45 4. 1970-71 . . 46-60 • • 12. i978-79 • . .. 215'75 S tfttement Figures of production of icricvs categories of goods and the net north of Mjs Rohtas [ndustires Ltd, for a ptricd of 5 year': endfd eti 3Iir March, 1979 (Production in tonnes) V SI. Year Paper and Cement Clinker Asbestics Vanaspati Caustic- Net worth No, Boards Cement Soda (in lakhs Products of Rs.) 19,848 1,209,73 2. *974-75- 59.224 169,542 1,53,845 26,090 5,97i 8. 1973-76- 49,5l<> 2,05,500 2,02,600 31,019 25,49* 4,775 *,245.95 3 - 1976-77- 5*»283 2,42,1^0 1,94,80° 26,874 ^ 27,398 3,989 1,082.05 4 - 1977-78- 50,947 3»3<>,72i* 2,86,690* 26,663 28,240 3,592 946.60 5- 1978-79- 55.152 2,59,000 2,40,900 21,211 33,98o '3,694 730.85 ♦This includes production for Ji.ly ,1977 to ^ . <1 i< ',( N o t e :—The net worth has been calculated on the basis or figures disclosed in the Balance Sheet without taking into account the arrears of depreciation and liabilities not provided for as disclosed in the notes forming part of the Accounts. (it ) «WT f r f t 3FT*T ^ ^ titftm. tftifHTf vtx fWr ftm sftoprcf % rr ? (*) , «ft Vtf WVMt fftcfl t, ^wfr^itvtVi^Tf % tftS 1 f^nrtf^r fomffcn^TT wft wnft | iprr^ HT (*r) *ftr («r). $ftv^r Security Force etc. The number of (b) whether it is a fact that many quarters so allotted works out to about of the works are of perenninial na- 3 per cent of the total number of q u a r- ture deserving departmentalisation; ters constructed by the sindri Unit. (c) whether it is a fact that the (c) The management has taken sui- State Labour Department has also table action against offenders in the given opinion for some of them in cases of unauthorised occupation of terms of departmentalisation; and FCI’s land. (d) if so, steps taken thereon? (d) No,' Sir. THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, (e) As indicated above, suitable ac- CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS tion is being taken by the manage- (SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL): (a) ment against the offenders, wherever A Statement giving the required details called for. is attached. (b) Noi Sir. Number of contractors and their works in F.C.I. Unit, Sindri (c) and (d). The Labour Commis- sioner, Government of Bihar requested 3387. SHRI A. K. ROY: Will the FCI management to discontinue the Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHE- contract job being attended to By M/s MICALS be pleased to state: Vinay Engineering lor repairing the coke oven hot battery and to absorb (a) the total number of contrac- the contractor's workers by the FCI tors with their names, number of management. Since this job is not of a workers under each of them, place perennial nature, the proposal was not of work and the type of work they accepted by the FCI. The position has are performing in the Sindri Unit been explained to the Labour Com- of the F. C. I.; missioner by the FCI management. Statement Si. Nam** of the Contractors Nature of Contract Location of contiact Iso. of No. work ■w ork<=rs engaged i. M/s Agarwal Tatansport Coal Transporting Coal site near power 33 Co. plant FCI Ltd. & Screening coke breeze mixed Sindri Moder. Projcct with coke and shifting of hard coke -J o - 30 2. M/s A.R. Chkraborty Civil Job Near HexametapJant 6 in PAP , 3. M/s A.A. K’lan Construc- Removal of Rubber linning; PAP and SAP 11 tion Sand Blasting and dismen- taling job 4. M/s. Associated Engi- Civil Job Besides Ammonia 31 neers and Conti actors Storage Tank at Sindri Modn. Pro- ject site 5. M/s. Bharat Heavy Elec. Construction and Erection power Plant 8 Ltd. of Boiler No. 8 6. M/s. ^joy Construction Lifting of coke spellage inclu- Coke Oven Plant ding coke dust from que- nching car in coke oven plant , 169 Written Answers ASADHA 17, 1902 (SAKA) Written Answers 170 7. M/s. Bharat Traders and Shifting of Amm. Nitrate, Ammonium Nitrate work no t contractors Loading of Amm. Nitrate Plant and Hexamataphosphate started 8. M/s. Bihar Electrical Rewinding and repairs of w ork not C o ils started 9. M/s. Gennuing Accurate Electrical Job w ork not Reliable Products ita rte d 10. M/s. Jainsons Transportation Gas Reformation Plant 6 Stores handling Central Stoie 14 11. M/s. Ojha Brothers Manual Unloading of Gyp- Gypsum Storage 2 1 sum and shifting to theSto- (Old Plant) rage Manual Unloading of Pyrites; pyrites Store in SAP 10 Manual Rcclaining, Bagg- Railway Platform work not ing, Weighting Stitching and near Rationalisa- started Loading of TSP tion Project 12. M/s. Mishra Construction Drilling of Round Holes Railway Line (inside -d o — factory) 13. M/s. Vinay Engineering Repair of Coke Oven Battery Coke Oven Plant 54 Overhauling of Boiler No. 6 Power Plant 65 Steam Line job and Reno- Sulphuric Acid Plant 54 vation Absorbing Tower 14. M/s. Subhash Electricals Rewinding and repairs of Coils w ork not started 15. M/s. S. Kumar Mishra Loading of TSP Phosphoric Acid Plan 9 16. M/s. New United Constn. Fabrication and Erection Rationalisation Pro- 9 ject Fabrication of Coal Mixer TSP Fabrication and Erection in Phosphoric Acid PAP of 1200 NB Gas Line Plant in Phosphoric Acid Plant 17. M/s. Sandhu Brothers Dismentling of Dryer and Double Slat Plant W ork not Transportation to West Side started of Gypsum Storage 18. M/s. S.P. Kharha and Co. TSP Bagging, Loading and TSP 20 Cleaning of TSP Bags 19. M/s.Jindal Roadways Transportation of Coal Coal Site in SMP 3r* and Power House 20. M/s. Ramlal Agarwala -d o - -d o - *7 21. M/s. Universal Carriers - d o - - d o - 21 2 2. M/s. Jaspal Brothers Construction of Neutralisa- Sulphuric Acid Plant tion P it Written Answers 8, 1988 Written Answers 1 72 Discovery of Ofl in Feppara, Trivan- nections released in the country upto drum District 31-3-1980 is as under: 3388. SHRI B. K. NAIR: Will the N am e of State/ N o . of Union Territory connections Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHE- released MICALS be pleased to state: (a) whether traces of crude oil J & K . • • • 19,460 have been found in Peppara in Tri- vandrum pistrict; A m m .... 25.387 Andhra Pradesh . 1 ,97,965 (b) whether Government proposes to carry out intensive exploration B ih ar . * ,03,093 in the area; and G u ja ra t .... . 3.37,779 (c) if not, reasons therefor? K a rn ata k a . *,22,155 THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, Himachal Pradesh 5>358 CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS (SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL): (a) Kerala 58,412 No, Sir. M eg h a lay a 3,130 (b) and (c). There is no proposal to M an ip u r .... 1,263 carry out intensive exploration in the area as, on geological considerations, M iz o ram .... 1,077 chances of finding commercial crude Madhya P radesh 1,60,483 oil in onshore Kerala are considered very remote. Nagalaad 2,400 Orissa .... 36,421 P u n ja b .... 55>T°5 Cooking gas connections in Rajasthan R a ja s th a n .... 44,H9 3389. SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER S ik k im .... 51,299 JAIN: Will the Minister of PETRO- 1 ,1 2 8 LEUM AND CHEMICAL be pleased to T rip u ra .... state: Uttar Pradesh . . 2,70 ,63o T a m il N ad u . 2 ,13 ,3 2 1 (a) the total number of cooking gas connections in the country as on Delhi (U.T.) . . 3,i3,52i 30th May, 1980 (State-wise); Chandigarh (U.T.) . 26,757 (b) the total number of cooking gas connections in each district of Pondicherry (U.T.) 5*641 Rajasthan; and West Bengal • i,73,H 9 (c) steps being taken to provide Goa .... 12 ,150 cooking gas connections in areas not covered so far? Maharashtra . 8,95,377 • THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS T o ta l (SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL): (a) 31,47,569 IState-wise number of cooking gas con- • —.—______1 Written Answers ASADtfA 17,1902 (SAKA) WHttcn Answers phasis on the following three The CPRI and NAL, Bangalore are also main areas of solar technology. carrying out R&D in this area. A hori- zontal axis wind mill has been deve- (a) Development of Solar Thermal loped and field tested. R&D works is devices and systems based on the in progress on low cost sail-type mills thermal effects of solar radiation; and vertical axis wind generator. A project on small out-put multiblade (b) Development of Photovoltaic wind mill has also been initiated. devices and systems for direct con- version of solar energy into electri- city; GEO THERMAL ENERGY (c) Bio-mass and bio conversion 6. The activities in the geo thermal technology. field in the country are directed to- wards locating of possible geo-thermal BIO MASS ENERGY reservoirs for power generation and other possible uses of the heat energy. 4. A time-bound All India Coordinat- Detailed investigations are in progress ed Programme involving several inter- in the Puga Valley in Jammu & Kash* disciplinary research centres in the mir and the Parbati Valley in Himachal country has been initiated and will lie Pradesh. A geo-thermal Coordinating. taken up in a phased manner. Consi- derable progress has been achieved in Committee has been set up to review and direct exploratory and other acti - the utilisation of organic waste and a lew designs of viable family size b*o vities in the geo-thermal field. gas plants have been evolved and fur- ther research work is in progress. TIDAL POWER Emphasis is now placed on developing community size bio gas plants to serve 7. Some preliminary investigations the energy needs of the rural areas. on the possibility of use of tidal power Demonstration projects have been have already been carried out and an planned. Several community bio gas UNDP expert also visited the country plants are under construction as pilot in 1975 to advise on the possibilities of projects. A National Steering Commit- tidal power development. Gulf of tee has been constituted to examine, Cambay and Kutch along the West identify and formulate R&D pro- Coast and the estuary of Ganga in the grammes related to production of bio Sunderbans in West Bengal are the mass fuels/feed stock. Specific projects possible locations where the tidal range have been taken up for evaluating tec- is fairly high, affording possibilities hnologies for bio mass energy genera- for tidal power generation. The main tion. Biogas plants of smaller sizes problem with tidal energy relates to have been installed in the country even the high initial cost^ the variable na- earlier. The number of such plants is ture of the output and the technical around 70,000. and economical problems involved -n firming up this power. A Coordina- WIND POWER tion Committee was set up in May, 1979 under the Chairmanship of the 5. Some research and development Chairman, CEA to consider further activities to develop prototype wind course of action and formulate pro- mills in the country have been taken gress of investigation .and studies relat- up. An integrated rural development ing to tidal power development in the project is in progress in Eastern UP country. The Committee has since in collaboration with he Government submitted a report for carrying out of Netherlands. This project includes investigations at an estimated cost of establishment of prototype wind mills Rs. 207.11 lakhs exclusive of the foreign for water pumping. Several wind mills exchange component of the order of have been established and they are Us $ 2,00,000 spread over for a period presently under going field trials and of 5 years. The Committee has recom- evaluation. mended (i) short term investigations W i i t t c n Answers ASADHA 17, 1902 (SAKA) W r i t t e n Answers 178 (ii) laboratory studies (iii) long term 2. 72nd Report on Article 220 of field investigations. The investigations the Constitution—Restriction) on have not yet been taken up. practice after being a permanent Judge. OCEAN THERMAL ENERGY CONVER- SION (OTEC) PLANT AND WAVE 3. 73rd Report on Criminal Lia- POWER bility for failure by husband to pay maintenance or permanent alimony 8. The OTEC technology is still in granted to the wife by the court a preliminary R&D stage in the world. under certain enactments or rules of Some preliminary consideration has law. been given to taking up R&D activi- ties in this field and further detailed 4. 74th Report on proposal to examination is required to dicide on amend the Indian Evidence Act, 1872 the nature and extent cf R&D activities so as to render admissible certain to be undertaken keeping in view the Statements made by witnesses before present stage of development of the Commission of Inquiry and other technology in the world. statutory authorities. 5. 75th Report on Disciplinary Examination of Statutes by Law Com- Jurisdiction under the Advocates mission Act, 1961. 3391. SHRI N. DENNIS: Will the 6. 76th Report on Arbitration Act, Minister of LAW, JUSTICE AND 1940. COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state: 7. 77th Report on Delay and arrears in trial courts. (a) whether the Law Commis- sion has examined any Statute dur- 8. 78th Report on Congestion of ing the calendar years 1977-78, under-trial prisoners in jails. 1978-79 and 1979-80; and (iii) 1979-80: (b) what was the nature of work done by the Commission during these 1. 79th Report on Delay and Ar- years? rears in High Courts and other Ap- pellate Courts. THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUSTICE 2. 80th Report on Method of Ap- AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER): (a) and (b). Yes pointment of Judges. Sir. The Law Commission submitted 3. 81st Report on Hindu Widows Re- the following repprts regarding the marriage Act, 1856. various enactments during the years in question. 4. 82nd Report on Effect of nomi- nation under section 39, Insurance (i) 1977-78: Act * 1938. 1. 69th Report on Indian Evidence 5. 83rd Report on the Guardians Act, 1872. and Wards Act, 1980 and certain provisions of the Hindu Minority 2. 70th Report on Transfer of and Guardianship Act, 1956. Property Act, 1882. 6. 84th Report on Rape and Allied (ii) 1978-79: Offences—some questions of substan- tive law, procedure and evidence. 1. 71st Report on the Hindu Mar- riage Act, 1955—Irretrievable break- 7. 85th Report on Claims* for com- down of marriage as a ground of pensation under Chapter 8 of the- divorce. Motor Vehicles Act, 1939. Written Armuets JULY 8, 1980 Written Answers 180 Irrljiti— Projects «f KnmaHk* mission. The replies to the comments sent by the Central Water Commissfcm to the State Government in respect of 3392. SHRI OSCAR FERNANDES: all these schemes are yet to be receiv- Will the Minister of IRRIGATION be ed. The clearance of these scheme pleased to state: idepends upon the response from the State Government in furnishing the replies/ (a) what are the details regarding complying with the comments of Cen- the number of irrigation projects tral Water Commission and deputing submitted by the State of Karnataka concerned Officers for sorting out Out- which are incomplete and need Union standing points wherever necessary. A G o v e r n m e n t approval; and statement showing the names of these pending projects with data of receipt (b) the tirfie since when each one and present stage of examination in has been pending and by when these the Central Water Commission is at- projects &1>e likely to be cleared? tached. THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION In addition to above 7 schemes, the (SHRl KEDAR PANDEY): (a) and Government of Karnataka have sent (b). Project reports of 5 major and 2 project reports of 14 schemes (6 major medium irrigation schemes hare been and 8 medium) which involve utilisa- received in the Central Water Com- tion of Cauvery waters. These schemes mission from the Government of Kar- can be processed only after a settle- nataka for technical clearance and ob- ment on the use of Cauvery waters taining approval of the Planning Com- from the inter-State angle is resolved. Statement Pending Schemes of Katndtaka State S.No. Name of the project' Date of Position of examination (District) receipt in Central Water Commission ( 0 (2) (3) (4) (A) M ajor Projects 1. Karanja (Bidar) . . . 15—11—76 Comments sent to the Slate Government in August 1977. Replies awaited from State Government. a. Ramthal Lift Irrigation (Bijapur) . 7-10-77 Comment? *ent to the State Government in December 1978. Replies awaited from State Government. 3, Bhima Lift Irrigation Scheme (Gulbarga) Dec. 77 Comments sent to the State Government in September 1978. Replies awaited from State Government. 4. Varahi Project (South Kanara) . . 11-5-78 Comments *ent to the State Government in July IQ79. Replies awaited from State Government. l 8l Written Answers ASADHA 11, 1902 (£AKA) Written Answers 182 5 . Bennfehora (Gulbarga) 17-3-79 Comment* 0f *11 the Directof rates/Departmcnt* (Excep- CMDD) have been comm- __unicated_ • n to the 1 StaiC Govern- awaited (B) Medium Project, 1. Kagra Irrigation Scheme (Guibarga) . 16-4-79 Comments sent to the State Government in August, 1979. Replies awaited from the State Government. 2. Narihalla (Bellary) 1a-7-79 Comments sent to State Govern- ment in September 1979* Replies awaited from State Government. Alembic Chemicals Works Bangalore ** snjw ntartfn* and Baroda 3394. : m fiifa, 3393. SSHRI NIHAL SINGH: Will the *m«r iftr w if t wt trcrr Minister of LAW, JUSTICE AND fe : COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state the number of partners and the (%) wm % ra snj? ^ vt 3 extent of capital investment of the vifwfl r 10 % 20 Alembic Chemicals Works, Bangalore and Baroda at its inception and the («r) f?r, eft vtt j ? number of partners who have so far vfs withdrawn their capital? f*fa, ww* 6b) if so, what are the targets fixed * t ^ftsnr^irwr«ff % ^ rr ^ r v fa m o * fatrr during the current financial year re- nrn | ifk T5sr sm?rr vr garding the major and medium irri- m t (b) if go, the reasons therefor? (c) Presumably, the Hon’ble Member is referring to the National Institute of Oceanography located in Goa. This THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, Institute is a member of the Beach CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS Erosion Board set up by the Govern- (SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL): (a) ment of India and is thereby associated No, Sir. Production of fertilizers, which with the work of tackling the problems was 19 lakh tonnes of nitrogen and of sea-erosion in the country. 4.80 lakh tonnes of P205 in 1976-77, rose to 20 lakh tonnes of nitrogen and 6.70 lakh tonnes of P205 in 1977-78 and rose further to 21.70 lakh tonnes Development of Research "Works in of nitrogen and 7.70 lakh tonnes of P.O Pharmaceutical Industry in 1978-79. (b) Does not arise. 3400. SHRI S. M. KRISHNA: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND 'CHEMICALS be pleased t0 state: (a) whether Government are con- Loss due to Sea Erosion on templating to modify their present Kerala Coast Drug Policy in the context of the present trends in the Pharmaceutical Industry; if so, when; 3399. SHRI A. A. RAHIM: Will the Minister of IRRIGATION be pleased to (b) the broad outlines thereof; state* (c) whether any provision is being (a) whether Government are made to ensure that a percentage of aware that due to large scale sea ero- profit of the multi-nationals and sion in Kerala Coast, rich soil beds others dealing in the Pharmaceutical and rich lands are damaged; Industry is invested in Research and Development in the country; and (b) the concrete steps taken to pre- vent this huge los9 due to sea ero- sion, when the fertility of the rich (d) if so, what machinery has land is affected; and been devised to keep a constant watch on this important aspect? (c) whether the soil conservation Unit of the Ministry is taking any advice from the Oceanic Research THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, Institute, Goa in the matter? CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS (SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL): (a) and (b). Tne present Drug Policy of the THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION Government which is based on the re- (SHRI KEDAR PANDAV): (a) pnd commendations of the Hathi Committee (b). The Kerala Government has le- on Drugs and Pharmaceutical Industry ported loss of land and property in the is in the process of impl2mentat;on. coastal area due to sea-erosio i. Out cf Various a s P e c t s of the working o f the the total of 320 kms of coast line industry are under constant w atch assessed to be vulnerable to sea-ero- sion, anti sea-erosion works have been (c) I-n paragraph 41 of th^ Diug constructed in a length of 225 kms till Policy Statement of Marcn, 1978, a the end of March, 1980. The remain- specific reference has already been ing length is proposed to be completed made regarding Research and Deve- during the next five years lopment facilities to be set up by 187 Written AnsvJers JULY 8, I960 Written A iiswers 188 foreign drug companies. The invest- ment in Augusty 1976, June, 1977 and ment obligation towards Research November, 1977. Replies from the and Development facilities contained State Government are still awaited. therein can be incorporated as a con- (c) The scheme envisages irrigation dition in the approvals under Foreign to an area of 30,000 ha. In Kharif and Exchange Regulation Act (FERA) and | or consolidated industrial licen- 9000 ha. in Rabi in Gaya district. ces to be granted to such foreign companies. Rise in Assets of Large Industrial Houses (d) This will arise only after the Research and Development obligation imposed on the foreign companies. 3403. SHRI ARJUN SETHI: SHRI G. Y. KRISHNAN: Utilisation of Water Resources Will the Minister of LAW, JUSTICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased 3401. SHRI K. P. SINGH DEO: Will to state; the Minister 0f IRRIGATION be pleas- ed to stats #vhe^er any integrated plan (a) whether there has been anjr for utilisation of the water resources of rise in the assets of the large indus- river Brahmani has been formulated trial houses during the last two years; and if so, the salient features thereof? (b) if so, to, what extent and the THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION names of the first 35 large industrial (SHRI KEDAR PANDAY): The integ- houses along with the details of their rated plan is under formulation by assets during the last two years; the State Government. and (c) the steps Government have taken to curb the monopoly power Muhane Reservoir Scheme in Gaya of these industrial houses? District of Bihar THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUSTICE 3402. SHRI RAM SWAROOP RAM: AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. Will the Minister of IRRIGATION be SHIV SHANKER): (a) The assets of pleased to state: large industrial houses registered under section 26 of the M.R.T.P. Act, 1969, (a) whether the Muhane Reservoir Scheme in Gaya (Bihar) is receiving increased from Rs. 8999.37 crores in 1976 to Rs. 10,739.06 crores in 1978. the attention of Government; (b) The details relating to the assets (b) what is the stage of progress thereof; and of the top 35 houses for the years 1976 and 197-8 are given in the statement (c) what will be the potential for annexed. irrigation and the area under cover- (c) Chapter III of the MRTP Act age on completion of tKe scheme? provides for prior scrutiny and approval by Government of all proposals of large THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION industrial houses relating to substantial (SHRI KEDAR PANDAY): (a) and expansion, establishment of new under- (b). The Muhane Reservoir-cumBar- takings, merger, amalgamation and rage Scheme submitted by Bihar Gov acquisition, etc. These provisions are ernment has been technically exami- administered in the light of guidelines ned in the Central Water Commission contained in Section 28 of the MRTP and comments sent to the Govern- Act and Industrial Policy in force. 89 Written Answers ASADHA 17, 1902 (SAKA) Written Answers igo Statement Value of Assets of Top 3 5 large industrial houses (as per the registrations under Section 2 6 of the M.R.T.M. Act for the years 1 9 7 6 and 1 9 7 8 (ranged on the basis o f Assets in 19 7 8 ) SI. Name of the House Assets (Rs. in Crores) Increase No. .... % 1976 1978 1 2 3 4 5 1 1171 15 to 2 2 T a t a ...... 980 77 1102 11 12 4 3 M afatlal ...... 256 54 317 86 23 9 4 J.K. Singhania ...... 241 23 299 57 24 2 f>Thapar ...... 202 24 244•06 20 7 6 I.C .I...... 198 99 228 73 14-9 7 220 86 131 8 204-79 !9 3 9 Oil India ...... 20259 203-24 0 3 10 Scindia ...... 202 -8i *4-5 11 I94-5I 3i 7 12A.C.C...... 160 21 186-62 16 5 *3 Bhiwandiw ala ...... 178 38 7-2 14Kirloskar ...... 152-47 176 25 15 6 15 Hindustan Levei...... *57 *5 28 3 iGChowgule ...... 80-15 149 9*> 87 • 1 17 Khatau (Bombay) ..... 100*22 *43 12 42 8 18 Kasturbhai Lalbhai ..... IO9 63 140 00 27-7 *9 Mahindra & Mahindra .... I26-o6 137 18 8 8 20 Walchand ...... *35*70 4 9 21T.V.S. Iyengar ...... 105 78 *33 23 27*8 22Modi ..... 134*72 *4 4 23 MacneilJ & Magor ..... u3’35 *34-15 18 >4 24 Sarabhai ...... 116 73 12909 10 6 a5 I.T .C ...... 10508 129 *06 2U 8 36 12307 * 2 1 -2 27 D u n l o p ...... 108-87 9 9 28 Godrej ...... 100’16 53 7 7 9 1 W ritten Answers JULY 8, 1980 W ritten Answers 192 29Escorts • • • . 64 54 96 74 49 9 30 Brooke Bond • ■ ■ . 65-67 93 55 42 5 31 Parry • • 0 « • # 91-11 92 81 * 9 32 • • * 71-19 8 8 5 9 24 4 33 7131 86 46 21 -2 34 Ashok Leyland . ••• . 61 51 8 3 0 8 35 &> IO 101 35 G.K.W. .*■ £2-17 NOTE:-—In a fe.v cases where the balance sheets of the companies for the relevant year were not available, the corresponding figures for the earlier years have bien repeated. Allocation of Diesel and Kerosene Similarly, the kerosene allocation Oil to Orissa for the months of April and May were raised to 8500 tonnes each as against the sales of 6000 to 6500 tonnes per 3404. SHRi ARJUN SETHI: Will month until February, 1980. The the Minister of PETROLEUM AND allocation for June, 1980 is 5490 tonnes. CHEMICALS be Dieased to state: These allocation also represent a growth rate of 47 per cent, 52 per (a) whether the State Government cent and 5 percent for the months of of Orissa has approached the Union April, May and June, 1980 respectively Government regarding the allocation over the actual sales of kerosene in of more diesel and kerosene during the corresponding months of the the last three months; and preceding vear. (b) if so, the reaction of the Cen. tral Government thereto? Discussion with Management and Office Bearers of Fertilizer Corpora- tion Kamgar Uhion THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, CHEMICALS & FERTILIZERS (SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL): (a) During 3405. SHRI A. K. ROY: Will the my visit to Orissa in April, 1980, the Minister of PETROLEUM AND Government of Orissa had submitted CHEMICALS be pleased to state: notes requesting for monthly alloca- (a) whether it is a fact that two tion of about 20,000 tonnes of Diesel office bearers of the Fertilizer Corpo- and 8,000 tonnes of kerosene. ration Kamgar Union were called inside the factory of the Sindri Unit (b) The allocation of diesel for of the Fertilizer Corporation of India Orissa Ifor the months of April and by the management to discuss the May, 1980 were raised to the level of problem of contractors, workers 15,700 tonnes. For the month of June, 1980, the allocation is 12,500 tonnes. there in the first week of June; The allocations represented growth (b) whether it is a fact that the rates of about 31 per cent, 29 per cent office inviting the Union representa- And I® per cent for the months of tives were absent and in their place April, May and June, 1980 over the the musclemen of the contractors actual sales of diesel in the corres- were waiting for them who assaulted ponding months in the previous year. them brutally at the office itself; Written Answers ASADHA 17, 1902 (SAKA) Written Answers 194 (c) whether this created great ten. may be seen in the statement enclos- sion in the area; and ed. The Management of DVC has been asked to examine each of them, and (d) if so, facts in details and the take appropriate action, wherever steps taken against those officers, required. security personnel and the contractors involved in this? (b) Government would welcome cooperation from all quarters? to im- THE MINISTER OF PETROLUM, prove the power situation in the CHEMICALS & FERTILIZERS (SHRI country. VEERENDRA PATIL): (a): No. Sir. Statement » (b) Does not arise. Durgapur Thermal Power Station (c) and (d). There was a clash on 5-6-1980 between the Contractor’s 1. To improve the Water Treatment workers and Kamgar Unions’ re- Plant including the arragement of presentatives in front of the office of Lime and Bleaching feeding. M|s. Ashok Engg. Corporation, Sub- contractors of M/s. BHEL, inside the 2. To remove the gland leakage of factory premises as a result of which the Pumps and to make arrangement tension developed in th«e township and for annual maintenance or preventive. the surrounding areas. The local 3 To renovate the Intake Pump authorities have taken necessary action House. to bring the situation under control. The Police investigation is in progress. 4. To improve the Fire Pump instal- A Peace Committee has also been lation. formed with members from a^l sections of the society. 5. To take up immediate remedial measures on Ash Plant. Proposal by the DVC Staff Association 6. To take up immediate remedial to resolve Power Crisis measures on Seal Water Pump/Ash Water Pump. 3406. SHRI A. K. ROY: Will the 7. To introduce arrangement for pre- Minister of ENERGY AND COAL be ventive maintenance of Ejector. pleased to state: 8. To take up routine maintenance (a) whether his attention has been on Slurry Pump. drawn to the short term and long term proposals submitted by tht 9. To make Air Compressor service- D.V.C. Staff Association to resolve able. power crisis on the Workers’ Declara- 10. To make all service Air Com- tion Day on 7-5-198(5; and pressors in order. (b) if so, details of those proposals 11. To renovate the Demineralisa- and the reaction of Government on each tion Plant. point? 12. To enquir»a about the position of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Multi Port Value. MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI VIKRAM MAHAJAN): (a) A print- 13. To take immediate planning for ed pamphlet containing various techni- 're-aencration of Exchanger. cal suggestions for improving the 14. To plan for a Level Controller generation jn DVC was sent by the Arrangement for controlling the l£vel DVC Staff Association, both to the of thr* degasif*?r tank and maintain- Ministry and tQ the Management of ing the outlet flow of cation ex- DVC. The details of the suggestions changer 1205 LS—7 Written Answers JULY 8, 1980 Written Answers 196 15. To enquire about the fate of the 2. To supply of LDO in place of design put in by the Ionic Company FO to reduce burner problems. as also the instrument installed by them. 3. To implement of the recom- mendation of Renovation Committee, 16. To enquire about the fat^ 0f the on indigenous units. additional battery for the D/M Plant which was built by M/s. Bird Com- 4. To complete the DM Plant and pany. 3rd DM Storage tank.' 17. To see immediately the proper functioning of the two Boosfter Pumps. 5. To replace the recirculation system 18. To improve the capacity of the of B F Pump in Unit 6 with tried and mill. All the Coal pipes should be proven system and components. changed immediately. 6. To detect leakages and to effect 19. To introduce planned preven- improvement of condenser vacuum in tive maintenance in Coal Bunker Unit 1, 2, 3, & 4. Areas. 7. To regularly supply Chlorine of 20. To renovate the Grinder (Roller shock treatment of water. and Bowl Plate) and put the original rollers. 8. To install 2nd 100 MW auto-trans- former. 21. To introduce three shift main- tenance. .0. To install the 4th clarifloculator. 22. To install Electrostatic Precepi- tator for 1 & 2 Units to reduce erosion 10. To introduce three shift main- of I D Fan blades. tenance. 23. Td install ‘Mono’ recorder for correct measurement of air for perfect combustion. ( 1, 2 and 3 U n its). Long Term Programme 24. T0 improve quality. 1. To replace tube bundles of HP heaters of Units 1, 2, & 3. 25. To check unwanted air infiltra- tion tc the Boiler 1 & 2 and repair 2. To renovate the bciler feed pumps Boiler Walls, high roofs. of units 1, 2 and 3. 26. To replace tubes in the firing zone of 1 & 2 Unit and Acid cleaning 3. To replace BFP recirculation valves by good quality imported value of the tube internals. valves by good quality imported values 27. To rectify Air ducts (1&2 Unit). in units 1, 2 & 3. 28. To set aright all sorts of con- 4. To renovate ID Fans. trolling instruments for Automatic Control (1 & 2 U n its). 5. To complete 2nd raw water intake. 29. To change totally hydrogen 6. To replace air preheater elements embrettled tubes of Boiler 3. in boiller of Units 1, 2 & 3. Cbandrapura Thermal Power Station Short Term Programme 7. To make provision for a fourth Hydrovector Pump for every two units. 1. (To ensure supply of coal with less than 35 per cent ash content and VM 8. To disiltage the reservoir. content not less than 18 per cent and free from shale, stone an other foreign 9. To re-engineer the coal feeding m atters. • arrangement to blending plant. 197 Written Answers ASADHA 17, 1902 (SAKA) Written Answers 198 Bokaro Thermal Power Station tcoal production achieved, year-wise for the last 3 years are as under: 1. To re-engineer the Coal Conveying System. (milliontonnes) 2. To make regular arrangement of Year Production Production orstat analysis of gas & air. target achieved 3. To renovate the I D Fans. 1979-80 26.06 20.52 4. To improve the Vacuum. 1978-79 28.30 22.9 5. To condition the service Water 1977-78 27.80 * 25.25 pressure. (c) The investment year-wise in 6. improve mills performances. Eastern Coalfields Limited has been 7. To detect the leakages and im- as under: provement of Condenser Vacuum. (Rs. in crores) 8. To introduce direct method of measuring Coal 1979-80 58.70 9. To improve crusher and foreign 1978-79 42.29 material separator. 1977-78 40.01 10. To improve the method of ash cleaning system and Boiler cleaning system. w Jifcr Sr fin5^ 11. To introduce three shift main- 3408. sraro nr* fmf : m tenance. wh vtom *rerir 12. To de-siltage the Barrage re- *r?rr ^ fm w wr t qssr THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI VIK- *r fa ta t o f t r ^ t e - RAM MAHAJAN): (a) and ^ ^ ^rnr. sft vvhff vt ^v*fHt*vifin« wtw «TT?t-VT^ *T f ^ ; tfSTOtf «nft [$$ 1 1 *t i^nr *3$ 1 $ sh s'r W * p t t qf^rxft £er ir ^ sr£*r ir f a v n ^ T W r ir vtorr grr m*r f far vr fw rx if 5*R finwft fat $ fm; far t o stt »tft xn^hr % ^ tT fF n m c r rq f a r ft ?Rr?fr^V *rfHw ^trffT faftir f^rer?T snftj^^ur % fvwf ifaft (*ft %rr wnrrfoff f**ff % ;rr*r fa* »r* t 1 (*) 3Wt «f>* cT^» * fo? 3TT% is% frsro, 20 far?ff vt srnr vrnt *nr) ^ fTUTT |; ffk, 11 ^ Ufa: 3 forrf qrWr^nj *iw wfrrti fgqrfq^t% *faq (*) ^ff tfwtawff xm rc % frpfncrtfta tftr 5rr*rrfcrfl kw fa*m ^ vwrfvil wt »T5 fsrir^T wftfir «n% fa*rt % *tpt 3412. «ft fT^TT inf : *qT Wff «rtr *>*t *rr ^nr *rr*rrfcn vfemr irift srtt^t frqr »p^r fv : *• *T§r (^) 1979-80 % 5t?TJT TT«?h? crrq- f*^cT f^m % fw% *rfarforf % ^ 1. vtarc qfofoRr (*5*) ar^ir wtW % f^rxr ^ ^ iftr ^ % f^ ^^srrfrifr >Pt ^ w w fast ^ |; 2. (jpp?) fafom (^T) 9T? *W«nfvft Vf ap* cW 9gq- fa?T% ^r^rr^RT | *rsr cw ^ w ^ ^ % 3. *«rt *r5rr (*rwr*r) fwerjft wt vr^r |; tfk 4. *m£t tTt^ rt flreqr tftr mr 1 (tt) sraW?r % f?rtr ^ 5. ?t^P!sto qfortsFrr (*&&) m^rrri 1 enrof^r *rr «rr ^ ^ % f^ fo^TT ST^HTR frui W | ? e. vtansta «rr$ t o t o t ?r m ?ft t o fro $ ifanrtf irftnr ^ Mt M'ff vr irr^^ to *rt st *«ff a tor stwr: % nrercretor vft tn 1 *ra: ^?r ^ vnfas *t ^^^rrfr^r It I; vt «rfire *%ct vt^t, 203 Written Answers ~ JULY 8, 1980 Written Answers fa ro % fair w r * ^ «tt i m yfv, (v) ifk (»r). bwt (v) Hr ^rr % v4^rrWf «*t, ^ f?mW w g w ft arr ft» w^rft % «pr4^»rt frt wm vram m nvt v t ^cr *pt% % fm ; t o t * ^torarrT^r ^1 ff^t%vr4nft^t fanrr t o $ fa % sVtpt t z fc *n*T vt vyft vr srerra ^irf ^ 1 far* fafa «f>r stto h fa*rr sm* i (tt) 5RTJX m (??) snfa't ^ r ^ l r *rfa^ ^ r **7T«r *ixm n % tiwr *mt % **Tf zfTT^I | **fa f^ft JfTTJhw *Tm ¥t («ftRTft TW ffTTTt ) : (*) % (it ). tfro cmrFR? ^r *r ?rfsnr |; sfh: ^rr i^r ^rr T^t | ^ppt ^ ^t ?tW 3415. *srt Htwmif : w wn^ftr«\ ^PTT tfa ffHTTWr SfcTRTO if TITO *TSft SmT^f w t *rfT% t; ^ f t t w\t JTwr«r if t t s* »rrft r ^ t 694 240 934 («ft*rKt TWfprrtt : (*p ) ?ft»r ifW t 5 317 322 % ta -R W ^ t 352 f*m ffirr trrem (d) if so, the details thereabout? *r$ fqp^, aft Ftfr irm 3r ff^ *r snftfaw *rrmf % * * f w THE MINISTER OF STATE IN smrr | snit h t THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION fiR% 'trr^TH t i *t ht r t snfsfa AND BROADCASTING (SHRIMA- % *RT»fa fPJ*Tfa (ssr) xmitt tft * r smner (b) No, Sir. forest % ^nTr jnrrT ? :— (c) & (d). The total time (jevoted to programmes in various languages 1. Tps^ta fa^r fairs’ f^npr i (excluding music and news relayed) 2. *W*sprr srn; *f 4 T?PR spTTTt^WR Name of Language Duration (Spoken cs(tf^rr) st ° far° i word etc) s. *rrrsfey srrfef^r wrmt^nr i Hours M inutes 6- *nk (^° $°) ^ i Hindi 33 05 y. tr^i^s $rrf^T7 1977-78 12 There is no proposal to originate news bulletins from Darbhanga. 19 78-79 8 So far as broadcasts to rural audien- 1979-80 1 0 ces are concerned Maithili has been given its due place and importance. Capacity of Darbhanga A.I.R. Station Resusciation of Fertiliser Industry from 3416. SHRI BOGENDRA JHA: WiU loss of production the Minister of INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to 3417. SHRI GHULAM RASOOL state: KOCHACK: SHRI, M. V. CHANDRA- (a) whether Darbhanga (Mithila) Broadcasting Station of the A.I.R. has SHEKHARA MURTHY: got only 10 Kw. capacity; Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS be pleased to (b) whether at the time of instal- state: lation Government had assured that the capacity of the transmitter would (a) whether the Union Government be increased later; if so, steps being have prepared a crash plan to taken to do the same; resusciate the fertiliser industry from the present huge production Josses (c) what is the total time allotted that it has been incurring for want to various languages broadcast of power and feed stocks; tr»m Darbhanga ©nd whether Maithili is being mad© the Chief media of news (b) if so, what are the main detail* and other broadcasts; and of the proposed scheme; 207 W ritten Answers JULY 8, 1980 Written Answers 208 (c) to what extent Government that Bharat Heavy Electricals Ltd. are proposing to recommission a (BHEL) have not been aible to keep number of plants which had to be the delivery schedules of power equip, shut down during the months of May ment to the National Thermal Power and June, 1980; and Corporation; (d) how many of them have also (c) if so, what will be the main started production? functions of the new Committee; and THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, (d) to what extent formation of CHEMICALS AND FERTILISERS the Committee has helped in the pro- (SHRI yEERENDRA PATIL): (a) gress of construction of the on-going and (b). Government are very thermal projects? much concerned over the continuing loss of fertilizer production due to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE inadequate availability of power and MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI VIK- feedstocks like naphtha, fuel oil RAM MAHAJAN): (a) Such a Com- LSHS, and are monitoring the situa- mittee has not yet been set up. tion. If the monsoon is normal, the power availability is expected to im- (b) to (d). Does not arise. prove in July. The problem of feed- stock availability is two-loJd. One Supply of Oil by Mexico and Iraq is the shortage of feedstock arising 3419. SHRI M. V. CHANDRASHE- out of the closure of refineries based KHARA MURTHY: on Assam crude and the other on account of transportation bottlenecks. SHRI CHIRANJI LAL The movement of feedstock like fuel SHARMA; oil/LSHS is being monitored on a SHRI P. M. SAYEED: continuous basis so as to maximise the availability. Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS be pleased to (c) and (d). Resumption of pro- lay a statement showing: duction in the fertilizer plants shut down in the months Df May and June, (a) whether Mexico has agreed to 1980 would depend on the removal of India’s request to supply oil during constraints such as power cuts and 1980-81; non-availability of feed stock. (b) if so, whether any agreement has also been signed; Monitoring of Progress of Construction of Thermal Projects (c) whether Iraq whose delegation visited India during the month of 3418. SHRI GHULAM RASOOL June, 1980, had agreed to meet all the KOCHACK: demands of India in regard to crude SHRI M. V. CHANDRA- oil* SHEKHARA MURTHY: (d) what is the total quantity of Will the Minister of ENERGY AND crude oil, which Mexico, Iraq and COAL be pleased to state: other oil countries have agreed to provide for the period May—Decem- (a) whether a high level inter- ber, 1980; Minisjterial Committee has been,- set up to monitor the progress of cons- (e) to what extent the position of truction of the on-going thermal pro- the crude oil is likely ease; and jects;* (f) how much crude* oil has al- (b) if so, whether the main reason ready reached India after the signing tor appointing the Committee was of the albove agreements? 2t>9 Written Answers ASADHA 17, 1902 (SAKA) Written Answers 2 to THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, 2. Though the production of bulk CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS drugs by the Public Sector Units has (SjHRI VEERENDRA PATIL): (a) remained more or less steady, their and (b). No agreement has been share in the total production has de- signed with Mexico on supply of clined as the Indian Private Sector crude oil to India for 1980-81. has increased its production consi- derably. (c) No, Sir. 3. Some expansion projects in the (d) A quantity of approximately existing production units, are under 10.8 million tonnes of crude oil is ex- implementation and are likely to be pected to be imported during the commissioned during 1980-81. The period May—December, 1980. share of the Public Sector Undertak- ings is expected to .increase there- (e) and (f). A quantity of ap- after. proximately 5.2 million tonnes of crude oil has been imported till the Adulteration of petroleum Products end of April 1980. No difficulties are envisaged in the import of our 3421. SHRI K. MALLANNA: Will full anticipated requirements of the Minister of PETROEUM AND crude oil during 1980-81. CHEMICALS be pleased to state; Production of Bulk Drugs in Public (a) whether Government have re- Sector ceived a n y reports that diesel, petrol, kerosene and other petroleum pro- 3420. SHRI P. K. KODIYAN: Will ducts are sold in the black market; the Minister of PETROLEUM AND and CHEMICALS be pleased to state: (.b) if so, the reaction of Govern- (a) whether it is a fact that the ment in this regard? share of public sector in the produc- tion of bulk drugs has come down THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, considerably since 1976-77; and CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS ~(SHRi VEERENDRA PATIL): (a) (b) if so, the details and reasons Yes, Sir. therefor? (b) Government have taken var- THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, ious steps to improve the availabi- CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS lity of petroleum products in differ- (SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL): (a) ent parts of the country through addi- and (b). Yes, Sir. The share of the tional imports, and t>y maximising Public Sector in the production of irail, road and pipeline movement of bulk drugs since 1976-77 was as the products. The State Governments follows: — and Union Territory Administrations have been requested to regulate the (Rs. crores) ftupply of these products in the best possible manner. They have also been i976-77 I977-78 1978-79 advised to take effective steps to curb malpractices like blackmarketing, Public Sector Hoarding etc. which are usually ex- Production . 48 47 49 perienced in times of shortages. The Total bulk drug State Government have further been Production . 150 164 200 requested to take action under law against those indulging in adulteration 2 11 Written Answers JULY 8, 1980 Written Answers 2 I2 of petroleum products. The oil com- Foreign Collaboration for Sotting Up panies have been instructed to tighten Hydro-electric Power unite up the supervision over their retail out-lets (petrol pumps) and to sus- 3423. SHRI N. E. HORO: Will the pend supplies to those dealers against Minister of ENERGY AND COAL be whom there is a prima-facie case of pleased to state: malpractice, to be followed by termi- nation of dealership. (a) whether some East European countries have offered technical know- how for quick completion of hydel ‘A’ Class Cities with T.V. Stations projects; and f (b) if so, the details regarding the 3422. SHRI AMAR SINGH V. RA- decision of Government in this regard? THAWA: Will the Minister of INFOR- MATION AND BROADCASTING be THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE pleased to state: MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI VIK- RAM MAHAJAN): (a) There has been (a) the names of the ‘A’ Class cities no specific offer as yet, in this regard. in India which have fulfledged T.V. Stations; (b) Does not arise. (b) whether there is any proposal to establish T.V. Stations in the Irrigat*** Projects in West Bengal remaining cities also; and 3424. SHRI SOMNATH CHATTER- (c) the target fixed for establishing JEE: Will the Minister of IRRIGA- f.V. Station there? TION be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (a) the steps taken by him after THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION the discussion held at Calcutta on 5th AND BROADCASTING SHRIMATI April, 1980 with Irrigation Minister of RAM DULARI SINHA): (a) There West Bengal regarding different are seven ‘A’ class cities m India, irrigation projects; and namely, Bombay, Madras, Delhi. (b) the details thereof? Calcutta, Ahmedabad, Hyderabad and Bangalore. Out of these, Bombay' THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION Madras, Delhi and Calcutta have full- (SHRI KEDAR PANDAY): (a) and fledged TV stations. At Hyderabad, (b). The irrigation projects of West there is a SITE on going TV transmit- Bengal discussed at Calcutta on 5th ter and a Base Production Centre April, 1980 with Irrigation Minister of which produces programmes for the West Bengal were the Subarnarekha 3ITE on-going transmitter at Gul- Project and Upper Kangsabati Project. >arga also. As agreed to in the meeting, the (b) and (c). There are approved Subarnarekha Project of West Bengal '‘lan schemes for setting up fullfledge has also been tentatively included in ’V stations at Bangalore and Ahme- the pipe line for World Bank credit iabad which are expected to be com- assistance during its fiscal year 1982 missioned in 1982-83 and 1983-84 (July 1981 to June 1982). The Upper respectively. There is also an approv- Kangsabati Project has also been fina- ed plan scheme for constructing a lised and found acceptable by the permanent studio for the Hyderabad Technical Advisory Committee of the transmitter. This is expected to be Planning Commission in its meeting commissioned in 1982-83. held on 7-6-1980. 213 Written Answers ASADHA 17, 1902 (SAKA) Written Answers Construction of drains to cope with thi (b) if so, since what date and what flood situation in Delhi is the production per day and what is the capacity; and 3425. SHRI CHANDRA PAL SHAI- LANI: Will the Minister of IRRIGA- (c) if not, what are the reasons, and TION be pleased to state: when it is expected to go into produc- (a) whether the construction of tion? drains for coping with the flood situa- tion was atarted before the monsoon season last year i.e. 1979 in colonies of THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, trans-Yamuna areas situated on Loni CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS Road and Ghonda Road in Shahdara, (SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL): (a) Delhi; and (b). The capacity of the Fertilizer (b) if so, the reason why this con- plant Ramagundam is 1500 tonnes per struction work was stopped suddenly day of Urea. The plant has been in the same year and the drains are mechanically completed but commer- still lying incomplete and useless; cial production has not yet commen- ced. (c) whether the construction of such drains was also started in Durga- (c) Sustained commissioning and puri, Loni Road of Shahdara and whe- commercial production are held up ther not even a single drain was com- due to inadequate supply of electric pleted in this colony; and power by the State Electricity Board. (d) if so, whether the construction It is now expected that the project of such drains will be resumed to would go into commercial production reduce the chances of flood situation by December, 1980. in these residential colonies and if so, when? THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION Requirement of L.P.G. Cylinders (SHRI KEDAR PANDAY): (a) to (d). The Delhi Administration 'has reported that drains for the trans- 3427. SHRI R. K. MHALGI: Will Yamnua areas situated on Loni Road the Minister of PETROLEUM AND and Ghonda Road in Delhi have to CHEMICALS be pleased to state: be remodelled. Work only on desill- ing these drains was partly done (a) the number of LPG cylinders during 1979. The main re- required to cater satisfactorily to modelling work for the drain cover- one lakh consumers; ing the colonies on the Loni Road (including Durgapuri) was taken up (b) the number of consumers of this year and that for the colonies LPG at present in the country; along Ghonda Road will be taken up shortly. There has been no stoppage (c) the number of new connections of remodelling work as no work of likely to be granted after the com- remodelling was taken up before the pletion of ONGC Uran gas plant, and 1979 monsoon. commissioning of Mathura Refinery etc. during next two years; Fertiliser Plant at Ramagundam 3426. SHRI G. NARASIMHA RED- (d) the number of units manufac- DY: Will the Minister of PETRO- turing LPG cylinders and their LEUM AND CHEMICALS be pleased manufacturing capacity; to state: (a) whether fertiliser plant at (e) the estimated requirement of Ramagundam in Andhra Pradesh has LPG cylinders in future when new X[on« into production; LPG connections to be granted; and 21$ Written Answers JULY 6, 1080 Written Answers 216 (f) what steps Government have (c) The release of about 30 lakh taken or propose to take to see that new connections would be possible LPG supplies are not affected ad- with the commissioning of the faci- versely because of shortage, of cylin- lities for extraction of Llquiefied ders? Petroleum Gas from Bombay High Associated Gas followed by additional THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, availability of the product at Mathura CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS and Koyali Refineries. (SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL): (a) Approximately 1.5 lakh cylinders. (d) there are 7 established cylinder (b) Approximately 3.1 million as on manufacturing units producing LPG 31st Marlh, 1980. cylinders as per details given below: Name of Manufacturer Total production No. Planned 1980-81 as per manufactu- rer’s offer (Nos) x Hindustan General industries Ltd. Nangloi, Delhi . . 1,20,000 2 Indian Gas Cylinders Faridabad ...... 3,50,000 3 Cannen Dunkerely and Co. Ltd., Bombay ..... 2,50,000 4 Hyderabad Allwyn Metal Woiks Ltd., Hyderabad .... 5,50,000 5 Kosan Metal Products Pvt. Ltd., Kalmeshwai .... 2,40,000 6 Universal Cylinders Ltd., Alvar ...... 1,38,000 7 Standard Cylinders Pvt. Ltd., Gurgaon ...... 1,60,000 Total ...... 18,08,000 (e) With the programme of sanc- to cope up with the work before the tioning 8 lakh connections per year, oil Commission; industry requirements of new cylin- (b) how many cases have been ders is estimated to be between 15 to referred to the Commission during 16 lakh per year compared of 12 lakh the last year; cylinders per year for covering new releases and 3 to 4 lakh cylinders per (c) how many of them have been year as replacements for the old disposed off by the Commission; and cylinders. (d) in how many cases disposed off (f) Cylinders are being ordered and by the Commission Government has stockpiled in advance to the extent taken necessary action? possible. A few new manufacturing units are also expected to be esta- THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUS- blished to augment the capacity. TICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER): (a) In terms of the provisions contained in Reconstitution of MRTP Commission Section 5 of the M.R.T.P. Act, 1969, the Commission shall consist of a 3428. PROF. MADHU DANDA- VATE: Will the Minister of LAW, Chairman and not less than two mem- JUSTICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS ber and not more than eight Mem- bers. The M.R.T.P. Commission is at be pleased to state: present having a Chairman and two (a) whether M.R.T.P. Commission members which has been considered has been fully reconstituted so as adequate so far. 217 Written Answers ASADHA 17, 1902 (SAKsi) Written Answers 218 (b) to (d). During the calender (c) what is the action taken by the year 1979, three cases under Sections Central Government in this regard? 21/22 of the M.R.T.P. Act were refer- red to the M.R.T.P. Commission for THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, further inquiry and report. The Com- CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS mission have submitted its reports in (SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL): (a) all the three cases and these reports Yes, Sir. are under consideration of the Gov- ernment. (b) 1977. (c) It has already been decided to Flared up of Bombay High gas set up two large-sized ^fertilizers plants based on offshore gas at Hazira 3429. SHRl CHHITUBHAI GAMIT: in Gujarat. Will the Minister of PETROLEUM The Gujarat State Fertilizer Com- AND CHEMCALS be pleased to state: pany (GSFC) has submitted a revis- ed feasibility report for a fertilizer (a) is there any measurement/as- expansion plant at Bharuch based on sessment aa to how much gas has gas. A decision on this proposal would been flared up in Bombay High and be taken on overall techno-economic other Centres in last few years; considerations including factors such (b) if so, haw much has so far as availability of infrastructure, de- been flared up and the cost thereof; mand pattern in future, the relative economics of pipeline transportation (c) have Government fixed any of gas ris-a-vis transportation of time limit to finish various studies fertilizers keeping in view the capa- and start utilising that gas in various city of the Railways, etc. States; and Bangladesh Refugees migrated to (d) which States and which pro- jects are likely to get benefit of gas Assam fuel? 3431. SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV: Will the Minister of SUPPLY THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, AND REHABILITATION be pleased CHMICALS & FERTILIZERS (SHRI to state: VEERENDRA PATIL) : (a) to (d). Information is being collected and (a) the total number of East will be laid on the Table of the Sabha. Bengal refugees migrated to Assam after 1947 till to-date; Demand of Bombay High gas by (b) how many families have been Gujarat rehabilitated in Assam through the Stale Government machinery with 3430. SHRI D. P. JADEJA: the Central Government loan and SHRI AHMED M. PATEL: grant money; and Will the Minister of PETROLEUM (c) whether the Government of AND CHEMICALS be pleased to Assam accepted these loans with or state: without any condition for rehabilita- tion of these East Bengal refugees? (a) whether there Is a great de- mand of the Gujarat Government to THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE deliver Bombay High gas to Gujarat MINISTRY OF SUPPLY AND RE- State to be used for fertilizer units HABILITATION (SHRI P. K.#THUN- in the State: GON): (a) About 7.02 lakh persons since partition to 25th March, 1971. (b) since when this demand was made; and (b) About 4.G4 lakh persons. W r i t t e n Answers JULY 8, 1980 W ritten Answers 220 (c) Loans for rehabilitation of Dis- has started execution of the scheme placed Person families were released alter drawing the first instalment of in consultation with the State Govern- loan from the Corporation only in ment based on the prescribed scales February, 1980. of assistance. Rural Electrification Schemes for Puri Rural Electrification Schemes for Puri District of Orissa District of Orissa 3433. SHRI CHINTAMANI PANI- GRAHI: Will the Minister of 3432. SHIJl CHINTAMANI PANI- GRAHI: Will the Minister of ENERGY AND COAL be pleased to state: ENERGY AND COAL be pleased to state: (a) whether in 1979-80 loans were given to OSEB for rural electrifica- (a) whether in 1978-79 loans to the tion schemes in Jatni and Bhubanesh- extent of 12.523 lakhs of rupees were war blocks in Puri District in Orissa given to Orissa State Electricity to the extent of 12.535 lakhs of rupees Board for rural electrification sche- and Rs. 16 lakhs respectively; mes in Khunda Block in Puri Dis- trict; (b) if so, the names of villages for which these loans were given; and (b) if so, the names of the villages for electrification of which this loan (c) whether those villages have was given; and been electrified? (c) whether all these villages have THE MINISTER OF STATE IN been electrified? THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI, VIKRAM MAHAJAN): (a) In 1979- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN 80, the loans sanctioned to the Orissa THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI State Electricity Board by the Rural VIKRAM MAHAJAN): (a) The Electrification Corporation included Rural Electrification Corporation had (i) loan amounting to Rs. 12.535 la k h s sanctioned in 1978-79 a rural electri- in respect of a rural electrification fication scheme costing Rs. 12.523 scheme in Jatni and Bhubaneshwar lakhs for energisation of pumpsets in blocks in Puri District; (iij> loan Khurda block in Puri District. amounting amounting to Rs. 12.024 lakhs for extension of electricity for (b) In addition to intensive electri- energisation of pumpsets in villages fication in 600 already electrified vil- in Bhubaneshwar, Balianta, Batipatna lages, the above scheme envisages ex- blocks in Puri district and Niali, Kan- tention of electricity in 11 villages tapad, Cuttack Sadar and Barang which were hitherto unelectrified. The block in Cuttack district and (iii) names of these 11 villages are (1) loan amounting t0 Rs. 4.60 lakhs for Rasanga, (2) Gagalakanta, (3) setting up of a workshop for repair Kumundi, (4) Rantanpur, (5) Ghana. of transformers at Bhubaneshwar. sahi, (6) Patechandiparasad, (7) (b) The schemes referred to at Nos. Bhikaripada, (8) Kundilo, (9) Chaka- (i) and (ii) of the reply to Part (a) dapodar, (10) Brasabandha and (11) of the Question envisage electrifica- Taladiha. tion of 76 new villages and intensive electrification in 69 already electrified (c) The REC scheme in Khurda villages. The names of the 76 villages, block, which is phased for completion over a period of 4 years, is jointly which has hitherto been unelectrifled, is given in the statement attached. financed by the Rural Electrification Corporation and the Stat© Bank of (c) The schemes referred to in re- Intfia. 1lha State Electricity Board ply to part (a) of the Question were 22I W ritten A n s w e r s ASADHA 17, 1902 (SAKA) Written Answers 222 sanctioned only in February |March, 33. Chhelda 1980 and these are phased *0r com- 34. Budhapada pletion over a period of four | five years 35. Aragal from commencement. 36. Poadapada List of 76 New Villages 37. Haripur 1. Names of 46 additional Villages 38. Kansapada (unelectrified) covered under the 39. Haridamada scheme for rural electrification in 40. Deulabasta Jatni and Bhubaneshwar Blocks in Puri District. 41. Paschinadwarapatna* 42. Raipurpatna Bhubaneshwar Block 43. Pandiabillj 1. Nandapur 44. Budhanagar 2. Narasinghpur 45. Palaspur 3. Retang 46. Paniora 4 Ranasinghpur 5. Santarapurpatna 2. Names 30 additional villages 6. Nakhar Patna (unelectrified) covered under the 7. Krushnapur scheme for extension of electricity for 8. Saradeipur Patna energisation of pumpsets in Bhubanes- war, Balianta, and Baliapatna blocks 9. Khatuapada in Puri district and Niali, Kantapara, 10. Patharagadia Cuttack Sadar and Barang blocks in cuttack district. 1 1 . Shyamsundarpur 12. Sundarpur Bhubaneswar Block 13. Haridamada 14. Dhaua 1. Domana 15. Nuabanta 2. Patia 16. Singada 3. Kalyanpur 17. Krushnapur 4. Giringapur 18. Raghunathpurjalli 5. Injama Jatani Block 6. Barimunda 19. Jhikaranada Santara Sasana 7. Kantabal 20. Asorayapur 8. Bhola 21. Barakuda 9. Kujimahal 22. Jagasara 10. Kesura 23. Badaraghunathpur 11. Daspur 24. Harapur Baranga Block 25. Ogalpada 26. Alakar 12. Saleswar 27. Gaudakasipur 13. Kurunga-Sasan 28. Gopalpur 14. Neraja 29. Uparabasta 15. Bachhipur 30. Bhimpur 16. Ramdaspur 31. Gopinathpur 17. Ganeshewar 32. Orgara Sasana 18. 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T 15 3R ^ V , 1971 3437. *ft w t m Tfnwir : Wi 3arf «ik T t f^nrftrfr v t m ^nr feT< ir? 5PTT^ T t ?;qT *t^*t fT . f*PT fafats 28 n >73 T t qfr^rfaff f a ) SRT TrTT !T^?r % *mt ^ T t if faR^ft t t forr »rqr «rr 1 ^ ^ ^Irft Ir tfr ^Tcft |; £ f*r far^T*^ t >£ *r$r $ qft T*r?ft Tt fa%*iT srcr 5R?tr faurr ^rr^rr £ 1 (^r) jrrrr^T £cff if Tt aft f ? r ^ % m u •tt fa^rrf tY t?t q'wr 5 Tt ^rnY % w tt M€i if f^rr-^R sxTVrr m «fr *ftr w i 11 | 1 Written Answers ASADHA 17, 1902 (SAKA) Written Answers 226 (»r);*n*far staff w wre (*r) frr % f a ^ r *t 3W!Tcrr f^xr fat? «1TT ftptT 3TT x | t I v t ^ t ^ HfW^RTi:- ( * ) «r t t * rc * rc *?rofaTfa$r qft vrft «r^ft % vrT*r vt ( 1 ) *NV«r ^ ^r W^TT?T JlffTCSTfqiT *!*ft vfsm^ff arpwitf $; «n=Tcrr % i r f g w r *pt# £ fat? fflT ( 3) ZW f^rT ^TT ^r TtW ^ ^T t art ^TRtfT^r tt^tt cr«n yfrrf^r 5 ^3^tr?rr ^rMNrr i fatlTT WZtfi o %•' tft (4) irfspp w?ff # snr jf f a ^ r %T I 1. %W 2T3R, STR^T, ^TRPrat, 9T*R1 rf«TT 5TW* 22 ( 5) fw fi ?T«rr fsttvft ^ n f ^rWr ^ «rfMr^T qaft ^!Y ^;t s r »j 0 v^fjiTrr ^T3?r fntnr 20,000 1 m VT h' irfiW 2fT% ?T»R 2 1 ^r t # *r?r ?nwr | f^r *^?r fwr^TT f^^rT W mf f^rfH rirfTCR’^ 3. 10,000 ^ w TS'SF.* 20,000 ^ f t 1 ^ sm ^i^r ? fr 9 4. m ?PK 5 Supply of Power to Bengal-Bihar Coal Belt (*r) m l« r aeff fasq' *r?nC % fair TT^T fft ^R ff (*) . arf%rnff Sr 'fteff *t# (b) if so, the generating capacity, *T*ft VtW Vt srfflfor 16 ^ 18 ^ requirement and actual generation; fa^cT *F*TT$ ^TTrfr $ I ?mfW «^Tf # and ^rg ft v>,snw ^ *mr (*r) *f 5m ^ 3Ri^ st^ tt flT*fW frr^^r $ snjHRfa^r (c) steps proposed to be taken to w * n $ *ft Vr 1 1 meet the shorafall?> 1205 LS—8. 227 W ritten Ansivws JULY 8, 1980 Written Answers 228 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN Government to modernise FACT. How- THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI ever, the company has submitted to VIKRAM MAHAJAN); (a) t0 (c). The Government a proposal for a caprolac- generating capacity required to meet tum plant with a capacity of 50,000 the unrestricted load of the DVC sys- tonnes per annum, for diversification tem is 1100 MW. Under the DVC Act, of production at their Udyogamandal DVC’s responsibility is confined to Unit. A Techno-economic evaluation meeting the loads within the valley, of the proposal has been undertaken i.e. its jurisdiction. In view of this and a final view will be possible only DVC has not been designed to meet after completion of this exercise. the entire load, as it *was envisaged that by 1969 all outside the valley r: ration of the Right Bonk of Ganga loads would be taken over by the res- Downstream Farakka Barrage pective State Electricity Board, name- ly, Bihar and West Bengal. However, 3440. SHRI TtRIDIB CHAUDHURY: since these two State Electricity Will the Minister of IRRIGATION be Boards have now expressed their in- pleased to state ■ ability to take over the outside valley loads, on their request, it has been (a) whether Government have re- agreed to continue supply to the out- ceived any request from ~lhe West side valley loads of the DVC for some Bengal Government for financial assis- more time to come, or till the respec- tance for the implementation of their tive Boards are in a position to take scheme for the construction of per- over the responsibility. manent protective spurs and embank- ments against the continuous erosion Steps have been initiated for aug- of the right bank of Ganga down- menting substantially the generating stream Farakka Barrage from Farakka capacity in the DVC over the next few to Lalgola in the district of Mu»shida- vears. Steps have also been initiated bad in West Bengal; tor improving the performance of the installed units in order to obtain (b) whether it is a fact that this higher output. With the commissioning erosion of the Ganga seriously threa- of thp IV Unit of 210 MW at Durga- tens the safety of the Jangipur Bar- pur, the position is expected to im- 2 age on Bhagirathi; and prove further. lc) whether any decision has been taken by the Government to come to the aid of the State Government in Modernisation of F.A.C.T. meeting the threatened danger of ero- sion of Ganga in this region? 3439. SHRI V S. VIJAYA RAGHA- VAN; Will the Minister of PETRO- THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION LEUM AND CHEMICALS be pleased (SHRI KEDAR PANDAY): (a) and to state: (c). The West Bengal Government has (a) whether there is anv nvoDosal requested the Central Government to before Government to modernise the provide all the funds required for FACT (Fertilizer and Chemicals, anti-erosion works both upstream and Travancore Ltd.); and down-stream of Farakka Barrage. The State Government has been requested (b) if so, the details thereof? to prepare a separate self-contained proposal for financial assistance in TH^. MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, respect of the anti-erosion works re- CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS quired for the right bank of Ganga (SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL); (a) down-stream of Farakka Barrage. This and (b). There is no proposal before has not yet been received. As State 229 Written Answers ASADHA 17, 1002 (SAKA) Written Answers Governments are responsible for for- dustrial and commercial consumption. mulating and implementing flood con- State-wise figures are not readily trol works out of their respective Plan available. funds, the works required to check erosion by Ganga at locations other (c) and (d). New gas connections on than those relating to the Farakka a significant scale are expected to be Barrage Project would normally have given from the beginning of 1981 with to be sanctioned by the State Govern- the commissioning of the facilities for ment. extraction of LPG from Bombay High Associated Gas followed by additional (b) Erosion has been observed near availability of the product at Mathura Jangipur Barrage and its afflux bund. and Koyali (Refineries. The release of The Central Government has already about 30 lakh new connections wuold jndertaken measures to check this ero- be possible with the commissioning of sion to protect the Jangipur Barrage the above facilities. A plan for equit- nnd its appurtenent works. able distribution of the products throughout the country would be drawn Availability of LiqtiUled Petroleum up on the following considerations: — Gag (i) Liquified Petroleum Gas Av- ailability throughout the years; 3441. DR. VASANT KUMA,R PAN- DIT; Will the Minister of PETRO- (ii) Source of supply; LEUM AND CHEMICALS be pleased (iii) Potential demand in various o state: States; (a) what is the total availability of (iv) Logistics of supply; and Liquified Petroleum Gas (LPG) for distribution from all the sources; (v) Viability of operations. (b) how much of the above Liqui- fied Petroleum Gas is distributed to domestic consumers, please give Formation of a Statutory and State-wise figures; Autonomous Central Electricity Board (c) whether the availability of Liquified Petroleum Gas in 1980 is 3442. DR. VASANT KUMAR PAN- iikoly to bp increased from(i) Bombay DIT: Will the Minister of ENERGY High, (ii) Mathura Refinery, (iii) AND COAL be pleased to state: Barauni Refinery (iv) Koyali Re- finery, (v) Bengal Refinery and (vi) (a) whether Government are con- from imports; and sidering formation of a Statutory and Autonomous Central Electricity Board (d) if so, the distribution plan of to co-ordinate power generation the above and number of new consu- throughout the country; mers (domestic) it would cover? (b) whether the Report of the THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM. Rajadhyaksha Committee has been re- CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS ceived by the Government; (SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL): (a) (c) if so, the main recommendations The total availability of Liquified Pet- therein; roleum Gas (LPG) for distribution from all the sources in 1979-80 was 4.16 (d) whether the All India ♦Power lakh tonnes. Engineers Federation has submitted to the Government a Memorandum; Kb) Domestic consumption of LPG accounts for about 80 per cent, the (e) if so, the main suggestions there- remaining quantity being used for in- in; and 231 W ritten Answers JULY 8, 1980 Written Answers 232 (f) what steps Government have Report of the Committee on Power is taken to co-ordinate power generation expected to he available shortly, and by various units throughout the coun- Government will take a view on aU try and to step up power generation? these questions after consideration of the Report. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI (f) A number of measures have been VIKjRAM MAHAJANO: (a) There is and are being taken to coordinate and no proposal under consideration by step up Power Generation in the coun- the Government regarding formation try. These measures include -. of a Central Agency to coordinate Power Generation throughout ihe (i) Maximising generation from country. There already is a Central the existing installed capacity in the Electricity Authority, which is a Statu- Central Sector. State Governments tory Organisation set up under the have also been advised to similarly Electricity Supply Act, 1948. The prin- maximise generation from their ins- cipal statutory responsibilities of the talled capacity; Central Electricity Authority as ori- ginally envisaged are development of (ii) expediting commissioning ot a sound adequate and uniform nation- new generation capacity in the Cen- al policy in relation to the control and tral Sector, and advising the State utilisation of power resources, arbi- to take similar steps; tration in matters arising between the State Government or the Board and (iii) monitoring of coal stocks at thermal power stations and ensuring the licensee or any other person, and availability of coal; collection & recording of statistical information relating the power supply (iv) transfer of power from sui industry and making public such in- plus to deficit areas; formation. The CEA is also required to techno-economically appraise the (v) arranging supply of spare power projects formulated by S.E.Bs. parts from indigenous and foreigr. to ensure that they are consistent with suppliers; the National Power Policy and that they represent optimum development (vi) training of engineers for ope- of the National Power Resources. ration and maintenance of powe*- stations; (b) No, Sir. (vii) identification of deficiencies (c) Does not arise. in design, equipment etc. and taking (d) and (e). The Committee on up a project renovation programme Power constituted by the Government for rectification/replacement etc. at of India in the Ministry of Energy had a number of power stations. met, inter alia, the representatives of the All India Power Engineers’ Fede- istu* of LteeicM to open polyester ration. During discussions, the repre- Filament T in Uillc sentatives of the federation suggested that Generation, Transmission and 3443. SHRI NAVIN RAVANI: Will Distribution of power be totally cen- the Minister of PETROLEUM AND tralised and the power supply industry CHEMICALS be pleased to state: operate on a three-tier basis with a Central Electricity Authority at the (a) how many applications for All India level, Regional Electricity licences to open Polyester Filament Authority for each Region and Area Yarn (PFY) Units from private par- Electricity Board to flnanage distribu- ties, including those from large tion of pother at the State level. The houses, have been received by Ms Ministry so far; Written Answers ASADHA 17, 1902 (SAKA) Writti'i Answers 234 (b) what are the norms and con- Violation ot Companies Act by ditions for such licences and what Foreign Companies action is being taken to scrutinise these applications; 3444. SHRI NAVIN RAVANI: Will the Minister of LAW, JUSTICE AND (c) have Government thought to COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to grant licence only to those who bring state how many and which branches down prices of this yarn; and and subsidiaries of foreign companies (d) what is the Sixth plan capa- are involved in violations of Companies city target in respect of this item and Act and also in financial irregularities? capacity at present ot both public and private sector units—unit-wise? THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUSTICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS JSHRI P. SHIV SHANKER): This Department THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, is not maintaining any separate statis- CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS tics about the violations of the provi- (SHRI VEERENDjRA PATIL): (a) sions of the Companies Act by bran- 29 such applications have been regis- ches and subsidiaries of foreign com- tered during the years 1978, 1979 and panies separately. 1980 (upto June). (b) Vhe minimum economic size for a new unit has been assessed at 6,000 Central Electricity Authority tonnes per annum. The applications are linger examination from techno- 3445. SHRI JYOTIjRMOY BOSU: economic angles. Will the Minister of ENERGY AND COAL be pleased to state: (c) The minimum economic sized units will permit production of Poly- (a) when the Central Mectricity ester Filament Yarn at reduced prices. Authority (CEA) waa constituted; (d) The capacity targets are being (b) the objective for which it was kppt under constant review. constituted; and (c) how *far these objeotive» have The present licensed capacity for been fulfilled? the manufacture of Polyester Filament Yarn, unit-wise, is as under: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI Unit Capacity /Tonnes VIKRAM MAHAJAN): (a) The Cen- Per annum tral Electricity Authority, which is a statutory organisation set up under the provisions of the Electricity (Supply) M/s. J. K. Synthetics Ltd. 960 Act of 1948, became a full time orga- nisation in 1974 with the bifurcation M/s. Nirion Synthetics Fibres and of the Central Water and Power Com- Chemicals Ltd. 922 mission. Prior to that and since 1951, M/s. Garware Nylon Ltd. 576 it functioned as a part-time body. M/s. Modipon Limited 576 (b) As originally envisaged, the Cen- tral Electricity Authority’s prinsipal M/s. Century Enka Limited 360 statutory responsibilities are develop- M/s. Baroda Rayon Corpn. Ltd. 576 ment of a sound, adequate and uniform, national policy in relation to the con- M/s. Shree Synthetics Ltd. 576 trol and utilisation of power resources, M/s. Stretch Fibres Ltd. 135 arbitration in matters arising between the State Government or the Board M/s. Petroflls Co-operative Ltd. 3500 and the licensee or any other person, and collection & recording of statistical 235 'Written Answers JULY 8, 1980 Written Answers information relating to the power sup- (b) whether it is a fact that the ply industry and making public such proposal for setting up of three relay information. The CEA is also requir, stations at Midnapur, Murshidabad ed to techno-economically appraise and Aflansol is still to mature and the power projects formulated by the that the proposal to set up the relav State Electricity Boards to ensure that station at Midnapur has been shelv- they are consistent with the National ed; Power Policy and that they represent optimum development of the national (c) whether it is also a fact that power resources. duration of transmission at Calcutta In 1976, the responsibilities were is about the lowest amongst the Im- portant cities in the country; and enlarged tc include aspects such as formulation of long term and perspec- (d) ilf so, what are the details tive plans, providing advice to State thereof and action taken thereon? Governments, SEBs and other organi- sations on optimal utilisation of avail- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN able facilities, providing assistance for THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION the timely completion of schemes, AND BROADCASTING (SHRIMATI making arrangements for manpower RAM DULARI SINHA): (a) There ha> training for manning the power supply unfortunately been some delay in start- industry, making arrangements for in- ing the construction of a permanent vestigation of power projects and pro- TV studio building at Calcutta. The moting research in matters relating to principal reason for this was that ait the power supply industry. In addition CEA also discharges certain functions all-India architectural competition wa^ which have developed on it from its held to obtain a design for the studif predecessor organisation, the CW&PC building on a competitive basis The- (Power Wing). These include provid- work of construction is now eA.pecte<. ing design and consultancy services to commence shortly. and processing foreign exchange re- (b) The approved 6th Plan (1978— quirements of the power supply indus- 83) schemes include the setting up of try. relay centres at Asansol and Murshida- (c) The Central Electricity Autho- bad. A site for the Asansol relay cerr rity’s analytical and investigative stu- tre has been taken over and an order dies and monitoring and design roles has been placed on BEL for the trans- have been of great assistance to the mitter. This project is expected to be power supply industry, as a whole. commissioned by 1983. For the relay Also, although the CEA does not imple- centre at Murshidabad, a site has beer ment or operate any project directly, selected. As regards Midnapur, the it monitors the implementation and scheme for setting up a relay cen- performance of all pmjects as well as tre there could not be included as a Plar the financial performance of State Elec- Scheme due to constraints on resour- tricity Boards and in the discharge of ces. However, the feasibility of sell- these functions, makes significant con- ing up a relay centre at Midnapui tribution to the operational efficiency of through the P&T microwave links the power supply industry. under study. Building for Calcutta T.V. Centre 3446. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: (c) and (d). Yes, Sir. The weekly Will the Minister of INFORMATION transmission hours of the TV centres- AND BROADCASTING be pleased to at metropolitan cities are as follows: — state: Delhi—35 hours 20 minutes (approx.^ (a)*whether it is a fact that even Bombay—31 hours 30 minutes ( *’ ' after a lapse of six years the Calcutta Madras—'26 hours 40 minutes ( ” ) T.V. Centre has not got a building of its ow»; Calcutta—21 hours < *’ • 237 Written Answers ASADHA 17, 1&02 (SAKA) Wn+Mn A'uww'-i A t present, tht Calcutta TV studio is (»r) foeRt Tifar irtft *mrr functioning as an interim single-studio t t * ?t t ^r?r t * f r o srnfarr ? set up. With the existing limited faci- lities, it is not possible for the Kendra ^ r t *fa sthtt** *rcnwn Sr u v * ymt to produce programmes on a regular («ft*mt TTOfWrft ) : (t) s (*t) basis for more than 3 hours per day. farf fTOT g m 1977-78 tftr It will be possible to consider the ex- 1978-79 ^ Tt T tension of the transmission hours when T fair fspf trrfeqf Tt w for ?JXT the permanent studio with additional ’fnff, sr^r *n*r# Sr fecr jttt ^ ^fr production facilities is commissioned. ■tfftr t o qTfeff # Tt m r *rr *rifar ^rfa tft eft I sit *$ t o t o t o fw*T! faro j m fawrf % TTfa T t ^S?far 3T5TT fa«K®T STCrT J^t «TT fiwfar fat* TV fTO TO | I ^ $$ Tt W tt ^ «fh f («•) # It ^t-t t * qrtOTf sin ^ r T t flTft 11% HVl{ 5TT t ; * * 3 RlWW farrT fa*pr sttt 1977-78 *rtr 1978-79 % strR frwr tt % fa*rfw % fsm fjR nrf%TJTf Tt w ftq 3*% ^rmi fan n^t Tt Trfar, g f Trfar e w SpfTO TT%, Tt 37 HT fasR®T I t t ^ qrfoff % jtpt r^-f f r o f r o t o t o 0 ^ 3T17 | ^rr i ^THTT t 1 2 3 4 5 6 1977-78 % ^ri?r faq ^ 1 %o fangr 4, 50,000 3,81,683 — 3, 8 ],68 3 2 ^ f^rar >iTTrT, TTSTR 3, 00,000 2, 44,406 — 2, 44,4 0 (> 3 ?Rt TO K ^TT 4 f ^ , ^ « rf 32,000 32,000 32.000 — 5 t t it f^TTT w rm t,vfirt 50,000 1, 50,000 — J, 50, 00 o 6 m i fe^r Tt-irnro %o y»r 4, 50,000 4, 30,066 — 4, 3t ),066 7 «n=sr^ 4, 50,000 4,49,864 — 4,49,864 WnlUa Answers JULY 8, 1980 Written Answers 240 I 2 3 4 5 6 8 4,50,000 4,44,731 — 4,44,731 9 *Vo «Vo «pf, 70,000 6 3,217 63,217 — 10 *rtnrr sftsro^, 2 0 ,0 0 0 1 1,000 — 1 1,000 11 wft f^irtfTflrr sfts, an^f 50,000 50,000 50,000 — ------w srr^fr qnr fa n m \ *ftrrari «rarnfT SO *r*rr *T*n 1 2 3 4 5 6 1 9 7 8 -7 9 % ?flTR fa r ^ 1 * t Tfare iprr 4,50,000 3,88,198 — 3 ,8 8 ,1 9 8 2 tft afto ^ 0 W, 8 3 ,0 0 0 8 3,000 83,0 00 — 3 «ft crffo 1,00,000 86,612 — 8 6,612 4 *ft si^rrc w&fl, 3,50,000 2 ,2 7 ,8 19 — 2,2 7,8 I 9 5 *sfr 3,50,000 3 ,30,177 — 3 ,3 0 ,1 77 6 *fr ?rm*m ^0 3,50,000 3,50,000 — 3 ,5 0 ,0 0 0 7 ^ 8 3*ra *rarn: f^r vt st pt o 3,50,000 2 ,6 7 ,8 87 — 2 ,6 7 ,8 87 9 ^ tfawfar frpsr 3Tf*PT fvm 4,12,000 4,0 9 ,8 44 — 4 ,09,844 10 *sft *rf? firarf, ^ f # 3 ,50,000 3,35,960 — 3 ,3 5 ,9 6 0 jfr? . *r?rwr, 5 rfz v ftjf, f-sr*fr th t t t far ipr ft, % frpr ^ %rr irq $ sift era? ftnrr | .— s r r ^ ? qrr *TPT FfrfTcT fjfTtr iflr ip t vftt 1. *« r$ . 4, 50,000 2. jflfar ^fxrr6‘, «p*ff .... 4,50,000 " 3. *rfaTT J1FPT.3T, ?!f faF*ft 2,15,300 4 faftr ^tarr, f«r$ 4, 50,000 5. sur ivwNt, 4, 50,000 n- Ci et 0 * Written Amwers ASADHA 27, 1902 (SAKA) Wiittcn Answers | v i|£ £ '* g 'b- o> tf W » *’ *r *° .► «hc/ «tic/ 'Ir |E 1 t I ft v-» V ts 05 00 <34 00 <7i I 2 I i > ! ! s 1 i l i l 15 fcic. te s t £ r 1- 5 " fW nF •I©' * I f t tr1^ **? tr1^ IF t f P if e t o t 4 II r n e if i i i oc C 5 *43 Written A n s w e r s JULY 8, 1980 Written Answets 244 tfv v ti t t ^ ^ ift? q,f^«- (6) fa&ff ^ Tf^R, 3451. im i ^ i n n : ^rr q^tf5r*m ffaT^r **#■ *rtr ir^nrq #fa*fr 3# srnnrpr rr«TT TT*TT*R ^ «TcTR fa tt«ptrt *qr!wff $ ssft ^Rrorf jf qjftt faq *tr f i trr^r * trsrqfa, ^ r tt^ k t, (^) ^ it qft fa^r-fasT $farof ^ f 3Tcrr?r irat * f k ^ ^ if ? t r f c m qpT ^ r r ?R*rf (*ar) ^ vtf infe^rT fjTsrffr?T W |q- jjftr ?r fft i^ rr aftv qrfasrm % «n?itT (Trow*) v* tftm m t ; qTT WT^ *Tfc TTT^TPff : (»T) ^ 1977-78 1978-79 ?Tk 1979- 3450. *ft *j« ¥tm : «fsn *ftr 80 *F ?fhrR TTSTFTR ^ •TT^fV ^ f^ T - q^qfor■o *re ^ 5 r r ^rqr A *r^r fa . f*fR w f f l*r Ir t$^ I fftrrfarrlr «ft Refuge** from Pakistan OseupM 25 srfcT9RT sff^r^rr srrfWi ir^gf^cT sra- ^rrfrr^ % faft 2 srfasm irrtfftv 3r *m«qrf^ET«ff%f?r^ mxfgmt^tt«rr 3453. DR. KARAN SINGH: WilJ 73 jrftrcrer wrrTrfr* «rr*R t t st srreft «ft 1 the Minister of SUPPLY AND REHA- BILITATION be pleased to state; r*FTft tft tr$r 3Tf«RT «Ft 5Tf tftarfaTT snp 3TT proposal envisages setting up of a (b) whether 1979.80 was an year fertilizer plant based on gas at Bha- of all time record; ruch with a capacity of 1350 tonnes per day of ammonia and 1800 tonnes (c) whether the company has put per day of urea. up proposals for renovation, expan- (ci) The examination of the proposal sion and diversification; 19 on hand, taking into account the economic viability of the project and (d) if so, the details thereof; and the recommendations made by the Satish Chandran Group which went (e) whether, while considering into the question of location of future these applications, due weightage fertilizer plants based on gas from would be given to the performance of west-coast off-shore fields. the Company in the recent past as compared to other fertilizer units? Output of FACT Udyogamandal 3455. SHRI B. K. NAIR: Will the THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHE- CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS MICALS be pleased to state: (SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL): (a) (a) the output sales turn-over of The output (in terms of nutrients) of FACT, Udyogamandal during the five the Udyogamandal Division and of years ending 1979-80; FACT as a whole are given below: Udvogmandal Division : (Tonnes) 1975-76 i976'77 1977-^ 1978-79 1979-80 Nitrogrn 45261 43c8° 49611 5°594 51007 P o 21869 *3333 27071 27793 28449 2 5 FACT ai a whole Nitrogen 112718 119276 13365J. 149977 163475 P o 21869 25475 55934 66797 69219 2 5 The sales turnover of FACT for the (b) Yes, Sir. last five years is as under:— (c) Yes, Sir. (d) FACT has submitted to Govt, a Rs. in crores Year proposal for a caprolactum plant with a capacity of 50,000 tonnes per annum, 1975-76 65.28 for diversification of production at their Udyogamandal Unit. A techno-econo- 1976-77 66.33 mic evaluation of the proposal has been undertaken and a final view will be 1977-78 83.33 possible only after completion of this exercise. 1978-79* 87.35 (e) The main factor that will be taken into account while considering 1979-80 97.60 the proposal of the Company will be its techno-economic viability. 249 Written Answers ASADHA 17, 1902 (SAKA) Written Answers Fertiliser riant at puuftwlp Orissa. The entire amount earmarked during both the years was also dis- 3456. SHRI BRAJA MOHAN MOH- bursed. ANTY: Will the Minister of PETRO- LEUM AND CHEMICALS be pleased to state: Silting of maj’dr Irrifattai Project* of Orissa (a) which other sites, besides Paradeep were taken into considera- 3458. SHRI BRAJA MOHAN MOH- tion ior location of phospatic ferti- ANTY: Will the Minister of IRRIGA- liser plants; TION be pleased to state: * (b) whether technological exami- (a) whether Government hav# any nation indicated Paradwip as best information that on account of lack site; and of adequate measures for protection of inter.State river valley catch- (c) the reasons for delay in fina- ments major irrigation projects of lisation the location of the plant? Orissa are being silted and life of these natural projects is being reduced THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, rapidly; and CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS (SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL): (a) (b) is it a fact that due to reluc* to (c). The indigenous production of tance of the Union Government to phosphatic fertilizers being inadequate bear full financial responsibility, no to meet the demand, measures are steps in this direction could be taken? under way to identify additional phos** phatic fertilizer plants to be taken up THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION for implementation during the sixth (SHRI KEDAR PANDAY): (a) Recog- plan period. Paradeep is one of the nizing the necessity of reducing silta- possible locations for these plants and tion of reservoirs, the Government of a detailed feasibility report has been India, in the Department of Agriculture prepared by Madras Fertilizers Ltd. launched a Centrally sponsored Scheme for setting up a plant at Paradeep. The of Soil Conservation in the Inter-state processing of the report is on hand. catchments of River Valley Projects. Under this scheme, the catchments of Rural Electriilcatio* im Tribal Area of Hirakund (in Madhya Pradesh and Orissa Orissa'\ Machkund (in Orissa and Andhra Pradesh) and Rengali-Mandira 3457. SHRI BRAJA MOHAN MOII- (in the States of Bihar, Madhya Pra- ANTY; Will the Minister of ENERGY desh and Orissa) have been included AND COAL be pleased to state: The programme of soil conservation in the catchments o^‘ Hirakund and (a) amount earmarked for rural Muchkund was taken up in the 3r x w m wh («ft THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ffaw grfwr ) 4 MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI VIK- (m) (sr). ihpft f»*r RAM MAHAJAN): (a) In accordance fa. ^ with a decision of the Government of ftRfTT t q v ifrrsr v tto r t m m | aft tftsr India, the various- Units under this ^ ?rr?rr t 1 Ministry are implementing the job re- servation quotas for Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes, which are 15 Decision to Import Crude Oil from per cent and 7£ per cent of the vacan- Refineries in Gulf Area cies in respect of the respective cate- gories. In respect of local alid regional 3462. SHRI R. K. MHALGI: Will recruitment to class III & IV posts/ the Minister of PETROLEUM AND services? made otherwise than through CHEMICALS be pleased to state: the UPSC, the percentages are based (a) is it a fact that Government on the proportion of population of nave decided to get abouit 1 million Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes tonnes of crude oil processed in one in particular States. of the refineries in the Gulf Area; (b) Fixation or any changes in the (b) if so, when the deeijlon was percentages of reservations for Sche- taken and what is the name/location duled Castes and Scheduled Tribes is ox the refinery; and a matter that does not come within the purview of this Ministry. (c) what are the terms and con- ditions of the taid arrangement? Jeb reservation for Schedule^ and Scheduled Tribes THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS 3464. SHRI CHHITUBHAI GAMIT: tSHRI VEERENDRA PATIL): (a) Will the Minister of IRRIGATION oe jnd (b). Arrangements have been pleased to state: made to process upto 11 million tonnes of crude oil in the refinery in Aden. (a) what is the percentage of jobs People’s Bemocratic Republic cf Ye- reserved for Scheduled Castes and men. The agreement was signed on Scheduled Tribes people in depart- 27-7- 1979. ments and public units 'falling under (c) It would not be in the commer- his Ministry; and cial interest of Indian Oil Corporation (b) whether there is any proposal to and also contrary to international raise this quota and make it uniform practices to disclose a^v further under his ministry? details. THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION Job Reservation for SC/ST (SHRI KEDAR PANDAY): (a) and (b). The information is being collected and will b& laid on the Table of the House 34G3. SHRI CHHITUBHAI GAMIT: in due course. Will the Minister of ENERGY AND ("’OAT, be pleased to state: Power Minister’s Conference held in (a) what is the percentage of reser- Delhi to consider Power Situation vation of jobs for Scheduled Castei and Scheduled Tribes persons in 3465. SHRI CHINTAMANI PANI- departments and public units falling GRAHI: Will the Minister of ENERGY under his Ministry, unit-wise; an culties of Power situation in Orissa (c) whether the reaction of the State; i State Government about certain error* in the calculations to be made jointly (b) whether there was any proposal by ONGc and the State Government from the Orissa Government for har- have been received; and nessing power potential of the State 1 1980-81 and in subsequent periods; (d) if so, the final outeome thereof? and THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, (c) if so, the details of such pro- CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS ->sals and decision taken? (SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL): (a) Yes, Sir. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI VIK- (b) The royalty on gas is being paid RAM MAHAJAN): (a) to (c). The @ Rs. 6. 60 per 1000 M 3 and the in- main objective in holding the Confe- crease demanded was to Rs. 20/- pei rence of Power Ministers of States 1000 M». was to give a new direction to State (c) The matter is under considera- Electricity Boards to organise Hiei1 tion. operations efficiently. A consensus was arrived at in many important matters. (d) Does not arise. suc*h as setting up betterment-cum- renovation teams for each of the power stations whose performance is below standard, preparation of comprehensive rcta st s fa fa f w gcte implementation schedules and cash- 1 flow requirements for each new or on- going project, profession alisation ol various disciplines^ adoption of com- 3 4 67. «fv fcr frfas : T O fafa, mercial approach in financial manage- ment and dealings with supplies etc. The progress of on-going projects was (v) wr srrstr % fa7 < reviewed at the Conference, with a 1ware, '973 % 3TTT 237(^) % «T*SPi i view to solving p^Tblems impeding JTPfto. %*rr w r «tt, Trfe ?yr speedy implementation. zrw % £ fa: qrfV v I; No specific proposal of the Onssa Government for harnessing the State’s (’sr) wr Power potential, was discussed at the Conference, though Orissa’s schemes rTrftaff iff ? also formed part of the discussions mentioned above. ftWfPFT ) : Demand of Royalty on Gas by Gujarat {w>) % fasWf % Ao srnsite f?rf*nr? % qTrq^^TTr *srfErfaTnr. 3466. SHRI R. P. GAEKWAD: Will 195fi WTf 237(«P) ( 2) % % the Minister of PETROLEUM AND fsnfr f?pjaRT fosrr »nir i CHEMICALS be pleased to state: y p t i *rf I, ^ fvfti 5n^ st ^ | 1 (a) whether the Gujarat Govern- (*) srr* fvfii ttsp srfa, ment has made a demand to the ONGC «pwnfV Wet sfti, vt, 'or increase in the royalty on gas; qftrf?rqTT,19 56^m T T 241 (2 ) (* )% l3nst1f ’ifnl wfHfffftwt (c) Total value of imports of Vita- mins and Intermediates of Antibiotics 3468. ^ xm fwwH « n w * : f«rr and other medicines during 1975-76 to tmwnT *wv tr$ *pV ^ tt % : 1979-80 is as follows: (Rs. in ’akhs) (*) TOT 'PTIT 'TT w r % f?r^ ^rrzf *«rf>rcr *>?fcqT w «rr; ?fc ?rt, crV far»r% srr^r ; Year Total vakie of imports («r) **t % *fa fo? 120 *ttgt ^ s ^ ^fsr ^ & 1975-76 . . . « „ . 27^*93 i 976' 7 7 ...... 300*47 (*r) tffc ^t, tft *r fa?R ??rfa $i ^ ^*r $ $r frctft Tifvr s ^ r f t 1977-78 • • 77«-55 *t ft ?rf; ifk I978‘79 ...... 96i>45 (*r) ^ r $rfa % fair *rswTf7tfr 1979-80(April to Feb.) . . 1025-90 % far? wr n i t ? ♦ytftnw, ttTnm «wt *x \ (*ft Black marketeers, Hoarders and «ft^S Channelising the Ganga and Yamuna Shri Pandit Jawahar Lai Nehru the Water* for Irrigation in Rajasthian then Prime Minister of India; (b) how many recommendations of 3471. SHRI MANPHOOL SINGH the Congress were given legal shape CHAUDHARY: Will the Minister of to be adopted in judicial process; IRRIGATION be pleased to state: (c) what ig the result of the matter (a) whether the Central Govern- on ‘Judicial Process’ in this country; ment have under consideration a and proposal to channelize the Ganga and (d) whether Government will lay Yamuna mrf rwnwr «ffnn«rvr): and (d). The question of creating (v( w ) \ *7 ^pcpTadditional ^ facility for the manufacture q”T vta wft «r$i% vV *rr«r of caprolactum including its location sftarr faro % f« *?sfi Sr is still under consideration of Jhe qfftrar **rf §r Commercial Non-corr mt rcia 1 Year Coal Oil Electricity Firr\ cod Agricu’- Cov lurp 109 tural Kwh. '■ ^ste (MT) (MT) (MT) (MT) (MT) 1953 "~54 • . 28 7 3‘7 7-6 863 26-4 46 4 1960—61 . • 404 6-7 16 9 30-6 54 1970-71 . • 51 4 150 48-7 ”7-9 36-3 *64-6 I975-76 • ■ 71 c 178 66 0 133-1 41 0 73 0 2978—79 . . 68-8 21 -7 84-4 267 Written Art *iwers JULY 8, 1980 Written Avswws 26B A detailed review of the energy Conservation of energy and measures situation was undertaken in 1975 with to reduce dependence on petroleum a view* to formulate a comprehensive products require long gestation acti- national energy policy. Since 1976 vity and imping on planning strate- when the energy policy was adopted gies for growth as well as specific by the Government there had been policy measures to contain demand* significant developments in the energy This is a continuous process. scene both within the country and outside. In the background of having Proposal of Recycling of Lube Oil made discoveries of substantial off- shore gas and the progress made in the production of ^il from off-shore 3479. DR. VASANT KUMAR PAN- fields and also the uncertainty about DIT: Will the Minister of PETRO- the prices and availability of oil in the LEUM AND CHEMICALS be pleased international market, a Working to state: Group under th© chairmanship of -he (a) whether Prof. B. V. A. Rao, c- then Secretary (Power) was constiiu- the Department of Applied Mechanics ted to carry out a comprehensive re- UT, Madras, has suggested recycling view of the energy situation, to deve- and Rerefining of Lube oil to yield lop a perspective for the development production of byproducts; of the energy sector and to recommend proper policy meausres for optimal (b) have Government studied this utilisation of available energv *e- aspect; and sources. The Working Group submit- (c> whether Railways, power uni’s ted its reoort in November, 1979. A and Publ.c sector undertakings do not number of measures to guide 4 he recycle the oil, if so, the amount of energy demand along the optimal such used lube oil in the country per level and policy prescriptions for year? development of the energy resources in the country t0 ensure adequate THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, supplies for meeting the anticipated CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS demands are contained in the report (SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL): (a) Amon? such measures mention may Yes. Sir. be made of the following: — (b) Government have studied this (i) Maximising domestic produc- aspect. A registration scheme for re- tion (coal, hydro nuclear etc.) and refiner s with the Ministry of Petroleum greater reliance of renewable energy has been worked out and is in opera- resouces. tion with the main intention of popu- larising re-refining of lube oils in a (ii) Restraining growth of oil disciplined manner. consumption by substituting by other sources of energy. (c) Some units are recycling partly the lube oil they use at present. Pre- (iii) Conservation of the use of cise information regarding quantity of energy by increasing efficiency of used oils re-refined by theip. is not its utilisation; and available. (iv) developing new sources of Oil Supply a Cheaper Rates front energy. Iran A Cabinet Committee of Energy was 3480. SHRI NAVIN RAVANI: Will set uf* in February, 1980 supported by the Minister 0f PETROLEUM AND a Committee of Secretaries (also set CHEMICALS be pleased to state: u d in February 1980) for examination of all issues arising out of the recom- (a) whether a high levle Iranian mendations of the Working Group, trade delegation visited India for trade 269 Re. Misreporting ASADHA 17, 1902 (SAKA) Re. Atrocities on 270 of L.S. proceedings weaker sections by an wrdu daily of society exchanges recently, led by Iran’s that have taken place during the last Commerce Minister; and few days*.** (b) whether India will get further MR. SPEAKER: I have to make oil supply at cheaper rates from Iran an announcement regarding this. You after trade embargo on Iran imposed please sit down. by USA and some European countries? SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: You THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, listen to me. CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS * (SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL): (a) MR. SPEAKER: You cannot dictatc Yes, Sir. terms to me. You first listen to me. I have two announcements to mr»lce. (b) This did not specifically figure in the discussions held with the dele- On 30th June, 1980, Shri Mani Ram gation. Bagri made a complaint in the House that the Hind Samachar, an Urdu Daily of Jullundur, in its issue dated 29 June, 1980, while reporting about the Baghpat incident had misreported 32 hrs. him. I had then observed that the RE. ALLEGED MISREPORTING OF PTI had correctly reported the pro- LOK SABHA PROCEEDINGS ON ceedings but the newspaper had not THE BAGHPAT INCIDENT BY AN carried it correctly and that the news- URDU DAILY OF JULLUNDUR paper would be asked to explain as to why Shri Bagri had been mis. SEVERAL HON'BLE MEMBERS reported. Roes (Interruptions). I have received a reply from the MR. SPEAKER: Without getting Editor of the Hind Samachar in which my permission nobody can take the he has expressed regret for the mis- Floor of the House. First you have take. to seek m y permission. The regret expressed by the Editor SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU (Dia- of the Hind Samachar may be accep- mond Harbour). Sir, I seek your ted and the matter may be treated permission. as closed. (Interruptions). MR. SPEAKER: Yes, now you speak. 12.05 hrs. SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO (Mor- RE. MOTIONS FOR ADJOURNMENT mugao): Under which rule are you allowing? G o v e r n m e n t s F a il u r e t o P r o t e c t L i f e AND HONOUR o f MEN AND WOMEN OF MR. SPEAKER: You don’t ask me W e a k e r Se c t io n s that question. I have allowed him* SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU (Dia- SIHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO: This mond Harbour): •• will be a precedent for all of us. MR. SPEAKER: No, not allowed. MR. SPEAKER: X have allowed (Interruptions) I have received num- him under the rules. He has given ber of notices of Adjournment Mo- a notice. So, I have allowed him. tions. (Interruptions) Please sit down. I have received number of SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: Sir, my notices of Adjournment motions. They submission is about the four incidents are from Shri Harikesh Bahadur, Shri ••Not recorded. 27 1 He. Atrocities on JULY 8, 1980 weaker sections of society [Mr. Speaker] SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: No. Sir, Are you accepting the Adjourn- Ram Vilas Paswan, Shri Neelalohitha. ment Motion or not? dasan Nadar, Shri Jyotirmoy Bosu, Shri Atal Bih&ri Vajpayee, Shri Mani (Interruptions) Ram Bagri, Shri Chitta Basu, Shri Niren Ghosh, Shri Basudeb Acharya* MR. SPEAKER: Why do you go Shri Mukunda Mandal, Shri Ajit to conclusions? I have still to say Kumar Saha, Shri Rup Chand Pal and something. Mr. Bosu, you cannot Dtinen Bhattacharya. All these gen- threaten like this.. tlemen and other hon. Members will SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: I don’t listen please. accept to be threatened neither by you nor by them. I have received a number of notices of Adjournment Motions on the su b - SHRI NIREN GHOSH (Dum Dum): ject of Government failure to protect May I make a submission? (Interrup- the life and honour 0f men and women tions). belonging to weaker sections of so- ciety particularly of Harijans, repor- MR. SPEAKER; Order please. I ted rape of tribal women and of know the implications. I know the police excesses and atrocities perpet- mind of the whole ^ouse. We are rated on some women. These repor- all agitated about this..These things ted atrocities have exercised the should not at all happen. (Interrup- minds of a}l the members here as well tions) Please order; why do you in- as the public outside. Though the terrupt? This is not the way.. (7n- subject of law and order is primarily terruptions) You are again interrup- the responsibility 0f the State Govern- ting; I am not allowing you . (In- ments, the cases reported involve terruptions). atrocities against Harijans and weaker sections of society and have occurred SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR in a number of States. I agree that (Ballia): If you are so agitated and th ere should be an early occasion for if the whole House is concerned about the House to discuss these matters. why should the Home Minister not agree for discussion of this Adjourn- We have already agreed to discuss ment Motion? Why should he not the Demands of the M in istry of Home agree? What is the harm? (Inter- Affairs for 10 hours and these are ruptions). scheduled to come up fiiom 15th to 17th July, 1980. MR. SPEAKER: Please sit down. You were not here. Mr. Chandra (Interruptions) Shekhar, you were not here. We had discussed on three or four occasions MR. SPEAKER: I would request only this. We have already done it the Members kindly to utilise, that And again we are doing it.... opportunity to fully discuss this mat- ter. SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR: Have you consulted the Home Minister on SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: No, this issue and has he not agreed on S ir.. this issue? Did you ask the Govern- ment to give time for this? MR. SPEAKER: Therefore, I am MR. SPEAKER: I can do one thing. withholding my consent in the cir- Please listen. If you are so eager to cumstances, to these matters being discuse this, I can shift discussion of raised tyf way of Adjournment Mo- the Demands of the Home Ministry tions. (Interruptions) earlier. Would you like that? 2 / 3 Re* Atrocities on ASADHA 17, 1902 (SAKA) weaker sections 374 of society SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: No, MR. SPEAKER: Let him discuss S ir.. the matter first. (Interruptions) SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR: Hea- vens are not going to fall if you allot SHRI CHANDRAJIT YADAV: The 2 hours t°r discussion of such an im- Home Minister assured this House portant matter, that actions are being taken. Now, will he tell us what is being done in MR. SPEAKER: We have 10 hours. this regard? SHRI CHANDRAJIT YADAV xm fastis qnw^ : (Azamgarh): Will you please listen MR. SPEAKER: This is wrong. Not to me for one minute? (Interruptions) allowed. MR. SPEAKER; Mr. Yadav is on (Interruptions) his legs. Please listen, I have allowed him. MR. SPEAKER: I cannot take cognisance of telegram without any proof. I, cannot allow it on hearsay. SHRI CHANDRAJIT YADAV: Mr. Speaker, Sir, you have rightly said (Interruptions) *• that the whole House is concerned and I a^n "l"i\ Sir, that you are v&rm sTm forfer t fa appreciating the concern of the whole House. Sir, I will just remind you that ten days back I met you in your fa*. & , vt aptftnr t fa vs r to tw ^ fff 1 ^fa*r Chamber. I have requested you to 3T^?|T^ fawJT % ftrff | take an initiative and call for a meet- st ir ing of leaders of all the political k w * # (wHfOTR) I ^ TOTTT STC# SRSTfcnP parties, with the Home Minister if necessary with the Prime Minister, m ^cTT | wrfa-5*m«rr wrr sft because our women are being subjec- | 31? TT35T ’TWtf I I («qW«TWr) ted to great indignity. It is a shame for our nation. Kindly see the riports which are pouring in from all over SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA (Basir- the country about the atrocities done hat): Your suggestion that this mat- to our women. (Interruptions) It ter may be discussed during the dis- is not a question of one person or the cussion on the Demands for Grants other being subjected to atrocities. of the Ministry of Home Affairs will Sir, the worst and barbaric kind of not serve the purpose for the simple things are happening in the country. reason that, you will kindly bear with m e---- «fV jwftrro wnrfi (f^rn;) : snarer ..,.(«w t h ) ..... * srt arm ^ t ^ \ *n*T*r ^ ^ t flWT : *TPT ^TcT ^ srfar *r 1 sfofrfa *ftvsrorir Irs rnrarqfi jpr Om^-qT aFT^rf I spnr s^cTT* Wt?HX ..... («RCcrm ...... ^ f^TT ft WT 7FTT I I ^ SPRT^ sfr ftp* ^ SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR: Why ^ eft 3T? TRTcT ^ only this side?... (Interruptions). arfr sfo: ^ sfr i trtft *TjfV % fa sftTtf ?p znx WWW : STTT fatfr eTt'rT *TcT ^TTt WfT t ...... (s*WITn)...... ( w a r * ).... ^ Tfyrrrf^fr CTT STcm^ |tr t, ^ 37 *?T $ ....^?* rsrr sfr, afr w h ir ^ tt i % srfH *pr*n*r f n ^ r rmsr 3fr«rr?r ¥%$.... frftfararBrsr ^ ir ^ stt ^ ir&rz \ SHRI V. KI.SHORE CHANDRA S. ^?RT ?rr^ m ^ w* DEO (Parvathipuraro): Sir, normally .... That is what I asked the Home these things are discussed separately. Minister to do it. So, don’t take it As already pointed out, clubbing it that I am differentiating with any- together with the Demands for Grants body, not the least. X am giving the of the Ministry of Home Affairs will fullest possible opportunity to every- completely defeat the purpose of this body to speak. I will try to treat discussion. It is highly proper to everybody at par, equal without any allow a discussion on the subject.. . distinction in this House. (Interruptions) (Interruptions) SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO (Mor- mugao): I think, the Members would MR. SPEAKER: That is improper like and you more than all, that this House should run according to the *n tor*: stsetw sft, $ vrcrt fki*rm rules and precedents.,.. (Interrup- fV^TcTT fa ^rnft %ftr ^ xtW $ WTff tions)., It has been the practice of % artf ^tft 1 3fa?r ^ ^ f^ T r this Hous«» that when Demands for 5TTTT ^T^TT I % 2TT Grants of the concerned Ministry are trap f^- q^- ^ rr^r discussed, this type of discussion ....(w w om ).... under Rule 184 or 192 is not allowed. The practice and the principle is this MR. SPEAKER:__ When I have al- that when this House has an oppor- lowed him ___no___ tunity to discuss a matter, another opportunity is not given for the same w*k t o t : : *r\r far vjq % purpose. The Demands for Grants of fsm *T vx%rx fa in ...... the Ministay of Home Affairs are going to be discussed and °s this ....(mwi).... »77 Atvroc'ties on ASADHA 17, 1902 (SAKA) weaker sections 278- of society wmm : t o $ frrq wtr * m ^ sr t 5 %*vm *r w ta ir ^ tt5tt| i »rar?r f 1 nr ntf *vft j «ftr »Rfr t ( » ro n ?f) «rtT«RTHT «ft t o t o t : Tt Tnfar# *rrafr- snM **Expunged as ordered by the Chair. Re. Atrociite* on JULY 8, 1980 Papers laid 280 «rt r*nr : it sPT'Ttr irt t o vt 12.13 hrs. g 1 *nr»r ^ i v *pt ^Tcfr^rr PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE m #nr, ^ «ft arr?R f 1 qT?fcfrpsr «rr^f^r w i ^ 3r t ^ifrfr tft N otification u n d e r Co a l Mi n e s HT?RT g I tftTcT ^ * ? 3R V t # P T P r o v i d e n t F u n d a n d M iscellaneous *pt3 §T«T t *TR *TCT tft w m T# £ 1 $ P t o v i s i o n s A ct , 1948 S * m «r> ^t f r t t f 1 w«nr jsft ssft st t * * Co m p a n i e s (A e c c pt a n c e o f D e p o s i t s ) SWR «Pt TT »r\T 3 I ^faR $ FT^t T h i r d A m d t . 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FT *Rt*f£ ^ faR ^T^R o f e x pe r t c o m m i t t e e t o r e v i e w *p$ *pt % ^ f^tT.Tnr^ft# ff«r st ?r ^ f?R c o m p a n l e s a c t , 1956 a n d MRTP A c t , WI^ST *ft VtaTftgR SR ap faR FT STrft apt fRVTT ^9IT *p f5R g^T ^7-R ^ 1969. ^ t* irsp q^r *ft f^RTT | cRT*T 3TT^ft^ TOTTfr *ftr ^R ^Ft qtfeJT | I THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUSTICE fWrT ^TTrf I ?R7 ^Tn AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. ^ t eft ^trr firfrwfl *ftr ^tq> ftrftrefl SHIV SHANKAR): I beg to lay on *pt jftfiR *ft ^TT^ft ^TTTTjft ?pftT STttfaT9R *p the Table: — ^TT*ff tft 3TR *TT sft ifrtnft | W r $t*ft i nfaR f Frft ^TcT sp^rr ^r^rr (1) A copy of the Companies g fa? 7TFT f^RT ^rrf^TT I pr ^Tcff (Acceptance of Deposits) Third *Ft ift ^ r t ^rrf^r, ?ftx mq^Pt ttt^ t $>tt Amendment Rules, 1980 (Hindi and far %f^TR if w ^ft 5tT#' ^t?ft Tit $. fa: English versions) published i D e t a il e d D e m a n d s f o r G r a n t s , 1980- 81 o f M in is t r y o f I n f o r m a t io n a n d 12.33 hrs. B roadcasting CALLING ATTENTION TO MATTER OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION R e po r t e d in d e f in it e s t r ik e b y J u n io r AND BROADCASTING (SHRIMATI D o c t o r s i n m a j o r h o s p it a l s i n D e l h i RAM DULARI SINHA): I beg to lay on the Table a copy of the Detailed MR. SPEAKER: Shri Bapusaheb Demands for Grants (Hindi and Eng- Parulekar. The lion. Member is not lish versions) of Ministry of Infor- present Shri Ramavatar Shastri. The ••Not recorded. 283 Strike by Junior JULY 8, 1080 Doctors in Delhi 284 Hospitals (CA) [Mr. Speaker] what their counterparts receive in lion. Member is not present. Dr. Sara- many other parts of the country. dish Roy. The hon. Member is not The current agitation of these present. junior doctors is largely related to SHRI K. LAKKAPPA (Tumkur) : the demand for their being treated ft I call the attention of the Minister of par with regular Government Ser- Health to the following matter of vants when they are not, ki any sense urgent public importance and I ie- of the term, regular employees of quest that he may make a statement the Government. As the House is aware, Government doctors are re- thereon: cruited on regular basis, under estab- The reported indefinite strike by lished procedures through the Union Junior Doctors in major hospitals Public Service Commission. Such a in Delhi disrupting essential services method of broad-based competitive in many city-hospitals. selection does not apply to the admis- sion of the junior doctors for their 12.33-1/2 hrs. practical training specially when &n £Mr. Deputy-Speaker in the Chair] overwhelmingly large percentage of them in Delhi are inducted on a re- THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION served basis. These doctors cannot, AND HEALTH AND SOCIAL WEL- therefore, (untfer any circumstances, FARE (SHRI B. SHANKARA- be treated as regularly employed Gov- NAND) : Sir, during the last about ernment servants. one year, the junior doctors working The strike resorted to by the Junior in the various hospitals in Delhi re- doctors in Delhi with effect from 5th sorted to strikes nearly a dozen times July, 1980 has also been joined in by on one pretext or the other. Only most of the Interns. This has result- recently, the junior doctors in the All ed in the public being deprived of India Institute of Medical Sciences the services of about 1500 persons in were on strike for 54 days. The In- the Hospitals, for patient care, lead- terns had also joined a number of ing to avoidable inconvenience and these strikes. suffering. In this situation, though These so-called junior doctors it is not possible to fully operate all working in the hospitals are in fact the hospital services. Government Junior and Senior Residents. The have taken planned steps to ensure Junior Residents are M.B.B.S. gradu- that emergency and such other essen- ates who are undergoing education tia] patient care services including -and training to secure post-graduate out-patient services are run without degrees. Similarly, the Senior Resi- serious disruption. Steps have also dents are post-graduates who are un- been taken to recruit doctors to meet dergoing education and training to the Isituation. To minimise inconve- obtain second level specialisation and/ nience, emergency medical services or Qualifications. The Interns tre have been organised for the public, those who are [undergoing compul- within easy reach. Public have been sory practical training before con- informed of these arrangements. ferment of M.B.B.S. degrees. It I have given the essentials of the would thus be apparent that the In- situation for the appreciation of the terns and these junior doctors are Hon’ble Members. The suffering pub- basically students and trainees. Des- lic expects the doctors to keep patient pite this fact, these junior doctors care and removal of suffering above are paid remuneration ranging from all considerations. I hope that these Bs. 800 to Rs. 1400 per month and doctors shall call off their strike in most of them also get free accommo- the interest of the ailing public and dation, which is mitah more than in their own career interest. 285 Strike by Junior ASADHA 17, 1902 (SAKA ) Doctors in Delhi 286 Hospitals (CA) SHRI K. LAKKAPPA: Mr. Depu- SHRI RAMAVATAR SHASTRI: ty-Speaker, S>ir, while.... Or you say that we should not speak now. You should give a clear ruling DR. SARADISH ROY (Bolpur): that these people will not be allowed, What has happened to my name. It to speak. You give a ruling on this. appears third on the serial. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I will MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: When give the ruling after a little while. the hon. Speaker called you, you were not present in your seat. SHRI RAMAVATAR SHASTRI: You give the ruling now so that we SHRI RAMAVATAR SHASTRI : may go out. (Patna): This is a wrong procedure. I was here. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: You want a ruling on the point of order? MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : When I will give my ruling. the hon. Speaker called you, you were not present in your seat. There- SHRI RAMAVATAR SHASTRI: fore, he called Mr, Lakkappa. Sir, we would have our say now. DR. SARADISH ROY: I was here in this House. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I have not said that you will not be allowed. I will give my ruling now. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: As a spe- cial case, you will be called. SHRI RAMAVATAR SHASTRI: My n . :? is the second. The first DR. SARADISH ROY: I was here name was absent. Then the Papers in this House but my name was not were laid 0n the Table and there was called. a walk-out. vh q** ito : (ttct) MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Already Mr. Lakkappa has initiated the Call- i i ffr ^ 1 $ ing Attention and he is now in 1he middle. Let him complete it. I will ^tt^t # r ;tt 5ft # give my ruling with regard to your WX I 4^1 ^TT request. 3 ot | JfTTTO T$T I fa 1ft MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Mr. ^r^TUT 3TTflT JPTT *7, I Ramavatar Shastri, are you making ?fft ^rr f?PTT srrm I f**»T staTrr V d a request that since you were not mrar | » t f t t* present at that time you should be f l i W t •*rriRrr g* f a ; *r t m < r a n n i allowed to be called now? ^ «T>T $fa£*T *r> cft^TT «*T^ £ 3 R T ^ *1*7: apt l^F * c T T * $ SHRI RAMAVATAR SHASTRI: ^n?, xtwK ^ ^ ^ «ttt *rr Vtctt | Of course. ?ft w r s u p f t tftetTT ^r^rr irr^rr ? MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Th*t is \ a request to the Chair? MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I will look into the matter. Meanwhile, Mr. SHRI RAMAVATAR SHASTRI: Lakkappa will speak. Yes. • 287 Strike by Junior JULY 8, 1980 Doctors in Delhi 288 H o s p i t a l s (CA) MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: That will on a point of order. Mr. Niren Ghosh be considered. Now, Mr. Lakkappa. came inside the House after walk-out and threatened Shri Saradish Roy SHRI RAMAVATAR SHASTRI: and Shri Ramavatar Shastri to walk There is no question of considering out of tne House. Mr. Shastri refused that. Tne question is that I should be to go out in spite of the threats and allowed first. This is my request. Mr. Saradish Roy, one of his Party members walked out of the House. I MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Mr. raise this point of order as to whe- Shastri, in your absence I have al- ther any Member who has already ready called Mr. Lakkappa and he is walked out can come inside the House in the middle and the Minister ha& to threaten other Members who have already replied. You have come into not walked out. the House now and you are making (Interruptions) a request to the Chair. As a prodigal son you have come into the House MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Please again and you are making a request. sit down. Mr. Lakkappa. (Irkterruptions). You want to dis- charge your public responsibility a«d SHRI RAMAVATAR SHASTRI I appreciate. Though you walked out, rose— I appreciate it because you want to discharge your public responsibility MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Don’t to the people. I understand and res- insist. I cannot ask you in the middle. pect that position. Therefore, let Mr. Lakkappa speak. I will decide about (Interruptions) your request. Now, Mr. Lakkappa. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: You DR. SARADISH ROY: I was pre- can have your own opinion, but I sent in this House, though not on my have to conduct the House on the seat. My name is there in the Paper basis of the rules a-nd regulations to circulated. But you have not called which you and myself are parties. my name and so you have not allow- ed me. SHRI K. LAKKAPPA: I have care- fully gone through the statement vft HTflTW S* WSmT: ^qTKTST made by the hon. Health Minister. St# VZ far WTWIVZ ^ *TT I MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Mr. We find that in the last few days Saradish Roy, I think you were also the hospitals in the city have been called and you were not present in completely paralysed. The people of the House. this country should feel ashamed at what is happening. Because of the DR. SARADISH ROY: I was pre- negligence of the persons who are sent in the House, but I was not call- working in the hospitals, there have ed. As a protest I leave the House been V deaths of patients. We should now. consider whether so far as certain essential services are concerned, such MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: You as those serving ailing humanity, we were also called^ but you were not should allow an organised effort to present. paralyse the hospitals. Dr. ySaradish Roy and another hon. I have a lot of sympathy for the Member then left the House). doctors and their demands for more salaries, facilities and amenities, but SHRI ANANDA GOPAL MUKHO- I do not believe that they should be PADHYAYA (Asaftsol): Sir, I am allowed to paralyse the working of 289 Strike by Junior ASADHA 17, 1902 (SAKA) Doctors in Delhi $ 9 0 Hospitals (CA) the hospitals because of their de- see that the Government is involved mands. The statement of the hon. in this affairs and that there is muds- Minister has also referred to the faci- linging against the Government. lities they need. They have a legiti- mate right to press their demand, but This has to be examined thoroughly can they be allowed to paralyse the because there are people in the hos- hospitals, not allow patients to be pital authorities and there are people admitted and allow the admitted in the administration who are at patients to die without rendering any loggerhead with one another. There service? This is the situation today. are rivalries and these rival groups are instigating young doctors and these young doctors are allowing The people are time and again re- themselves to be trapped in this minding their representatives that the game, in this conspiracy. That is how administration of the hospitals should this leftist political parties are creating be streamlined. So, it is high time that the situation and want to see that the hon. Minister took a serious view the entire hospital functioning is of the situation. paralysed. • Unfortunately, in the last two years Is it allowed in a democratic coun- the Health Ministry had gone into try? The people of this country are the hands of a person who had no suffering; they are asking for more imagination and no understanding. medical facilities, more medical aid, Hr was running the hospitals like more medicines and more hospitals. dharamshalas. People of their choice But, unfortunately, even the medical were brought into the hospitals and facilities available in the hospitals the administration, and the major are not being given to them. The hospitals are still full of them. I people are not getting the required brought this to the notice of the treatment by the doctors or the au- Health Minister and pointed out how thorities concerned in the hospitals. chaotic conditions had been created throughout the country and in the Many negotiations have taken place Health Ministry. Fortunately, the in the last several years so far as people have given their verdict and a the problems of doctors are concern- dynamic young man is now in charge ed, about the junior doctors who of the Health Ministry. I would like w h ile taking training are also attend- to know whether he is going to take ing the duty in the hospitals and an over-all view of the running of the also doing service in the hospitals. hospitals and to streamline their ad- The entire situation has created a ministration. gloomy picture in the country. Seve- ral negotiations failed during the time There is a lot of indiscipline in the of the earlier Government. It may hospitals and a lot of discrimination in be on account of lack of understand- service matters so far as the run- ing in regard to the situation and ning of hospitals is concerned. If about the genuine grievances and de- the doctors have got genuine griev- mands of the doctors. We have ab- ances, there is a method of approa- solutely no objection to giving all fa- ching the Ministry or the hospitals! cilities to them within the limits and authorities concerned to look into resources available in the country. them. But what they have done is not proper. What I feel is that I would like to know whether the the political parties are indulging hon Minister will1 take stock* of the thpmselves in this affair and they entire situation which has been are instigating the doctors to orga- created by the earlier Government, nise strikes, to gee that not only in- in the last 2-3 years, in the running discipline is introduced but also to of the hospital# and the administra- 1205 LS—10. 29 x Strike by Junior JULY 8, 1980 Doctors in Delhi 292 Hospitals (CA) [Shri K. Lakappa] money at the cost of the labourer or tion and whether he would overhaul employee. But here there is nothing the entire administration and see that like a profit earning motive. If at a better atmosphere is created in the all a motive is there, it is service to hospitals and no such strikes take society. Service to the suffering huma- place in the essential services, like, nity is the motto of the hospitals. I the health services. I would request am sorry the doctors are rating them- the hon. Minister to meet the situa- selves and bringing themselves on tion not on the basis of confrontation par with the labourers in factories. but on the basis of mutual under- The very motto of a doctor is service standing. I would also request him to to the suffering humanity and that make an appeal to the doctors not to should be uppermost in his mind. go on strike affecting the essential That is the reason why I have said in Services, so far as the health services my statement that this consideration are concerned, and to create a heal- —the noble consideration—of service thy atmosphere and to create confi- to the people should weigh in the dence between the administration minds of the doctors, and that they and the people. I want to know what should come back to work. exactly the steps the hon. Minister has taken and what steps he proposes I have told you that these doctor-s to take to meet the situation and to are not regular Government servants. create an atmosphere of understand- The House knows they are not rec- ing and confidence between the strik- ruited through the Union Public Ser- ing doctors and the administration and vice Commission, but others who are also to overhaul and clean the entire recruited through the UPSC are not administration of the Health Depart- given free accommodation. Let the ment and the hospitals. This will only House point out to me if there is create confidence in the minds of pub- any case where an employee who lic who are suffering today. is recruited through the UPSC get free accommodation. No, there is none. But, in this case, we are giving SHEI B. SHANKARANAND: Mr. free accomodation, free water, free Deputy-Speaker, Sir, I am happy electricity to junior residents, and that through this Calling Attention we are paying them a considerably notice, the problem that is faced by good amount because we nre getting the patients and the sufferings of the some service from them during the people of Delhi are brought to the period of their training. The Houj-e notice of the House. may please see what the demands of the doctors are and whv tb°y have I am happy that Mr. Lakkappa is gone on strike. The first demand is very much agitated about the well- that they should be treated as regu- being of the suffering public and also lar Government servants, that ave- about the grievances of the doctors. nues of employment and promotion The country is passing through many should be open to them as they are difficulties. Unless we are all con- available to regular Government ser- cerned with the welfare of the peo- vants and that all service conditions ple and unless we aim at service to that are applicable to regular Gov- the people, things are not going to ernment servants should be made ap- be smooth. Doctors and hospitals are plicable to them also. The second taken on the plane of service to socie- demand i>* about working hours and ty. Hospitals are not profit earning the third is about the accommoda- ihstdltutioins: /they ai SHRI B. SHANKARANAND: I am t ir«p gTcT n¥t % Tf^TT ^T^fT ^ fT willing to extend it but it is for ^ faren ft^ fq ?ft ?ti5t ?nqr w f t Tt them to come and take it. f^VIHd'l TT I f T ^IrT TT^TT %fT*T 2 0 ^T, cTT TT«fefT So, in these circumstances, I am srrrT^Tti t |fT ^n ft srm ?ft willing to look into the grievances of 5(7 q | ^ ^TfcFt ^TcT ’gr tf& Z T ^HRvT the doctors. I only desire that they I. ^ trfw ^r ^r^rcvr ^r?rr ^ r r t should call off their strike and then 3RTT Ttf 5f^t ^RTT | » 48 ^ T i^ come to me. %% I .... 13 hrs. «ft ittto ipro ito ^r! : q? WIT ( The House may recall that at that (Interruptions) time the Resident Doctors of the All India Institute of Medical Sciences ^rcT'Tr^r Ttf farer | .... were on strike and we were all busy in sorting out their problems and MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: You d u rin g that period this came and, need not reply to the interruptions unfortunately, it was not brought to during the call attention, my notice and that is what has hap- pened, as the House well knows. But MRI B. SHANKARANAND: The the very fact that the Resident Doc- hon. Member wanted to know whe- tors of the All India Institute of ther I could promise. Sir, I can only Medical Sciences have called off their promise my sympathy to the doctors. strike shows that they found sympa- I am open and I will consider their th y in the Health Minister and in the grievances as the rules permit. S t rike by Junior ASADHA 17, 1902 (SAKA) Doctors in Delhi 298 Hospitals (CA) MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: This is ft £*rr | 1 *rmx fa^ft *&nix on the request of Mr. Ramavatar spt «rt «ftW ^ TOrar( 1 v**< Shas-tri. vrartf tit 5*^1 ?r tit swrcr «pvt ft faftft sfev mcit vt tit titTm f*rR Shri Ramavatar Shastri and Dr. ft $ 1 tft ^ Saradish Roy have raised a point that ft Scf-Tr $t ^Tfcrr g 1 ... (vmra ).. they should have been called to ini- ?Er?Fr snr^ wfcr ft sta tiate the call attention. I have al- I 1 ready informed them that when the Speaker had earlier called them, MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Shastri they were not present in the House Ji, don’t reply to any interruption- and as such, Shri K. Lakkappa, whose This is a calling attention. name was fourth in the list was cal- led. Tnmmncj is % sre ft ^ f 1 I do not recollect any such case W* t o (snfftr) : 5TS!f $fstr [. . where the members who were earlier (mmm) .... absent were called to ask questions later when they had come to the «ft w tcm k : fax m t s-Wr. House. Shri Ramavatar Shastri has VTTX Sfft cTCf ft *THT ^ TifT 1 made a special request to me and the Speaker. I am allowing him to ask questions as a very special case. This 5TR I would not be a precedent for the future. *ft Tnn«wrn jrraft: ft f^et w i n ST^T % TtfWT ft afM TfT g I ^ Shri Ramavatar Shastri. (Interrup- |f I tions). MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: You go AN HON. MEMBER: Is he prepar- on. ed not to stage a walk out? SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER JAIN; Special questions must be asked. i 2 j t , 5T$r eft ?r 1 ' TWWTTT ^ ti\% ^ l»0 srt : ?T5®T | i v* ^ ft si 35*1 w #5fp, sfartt^ 5R | 1 tit tft ^rr KiR q^t *RT5lrT 'f I qs^rr 1 You are here, we are also here. Is tramm* vr&ft : *rWr ?rinnr, it all right? c r srtft fft 1 . . (swift ).. v m % tht jf, eft w r tit xm MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Shastri | f tfk % sfr*r i 1 soft wr ffarr 1 1 Ji, you please address the Chair. J P W T O f c f ) : t f t SHRI RAMAVATAR SHASTRI; tit ?rVr f^^ir 1 You please control the House. MR DEPUTY-SPEAKER: There MR DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The is some understanding between us. point is this. You do not understand this. They may try to divert y©in- «rt vimim* inwrt: *n^r, attention Please keep up your time. zr$ gft ^t tit ft $ rm You kindly go on. (Interruptions%» t» *ft \ft tit tto ft ft \ ^ Order, order. ^ 9 9 Strike by Junior JULY 8, 1980 Doctors in Delhi Hospitals (CA) *ft f*Ksrrct wmi ) : wrrr ^rft^c ^ w rcsnr imrcmr ^ ^ % **%%■ TO I I ?fiT w % ^rnr f^rr t o i x m m tx i m f t : $ *r%^ •ft *nranr l^r : wszr^ » r^ r, ^ ^Cf & i «rc *ft are | tt g i *RT n r t 1 (WW9IW ) I sft mrsR *r^w\ stt't Trm^ffnc nrwft : ^qr^sr aft, p m r^t ^nrr^TR: srrssfl- % fat* faforcr ^T^TT ^ fr W&ZVFH ^TFT'Tr^T, ^TTT^ ^fspr i fa?rct «tr % *rsrfcr % =3% *1% *rerarr?r, Trwft^c mmnx, g%?rr J i fWrr CTfJT ^ afiraffi1 .. (w o t ) .. f^r^TRr swerrar, +HKdV 9n^r ir^cfr^r, tct % ^rm ^ ^ r f f MR. RAMAVATAR SHASTRI: If ^ f% 5fr^r^tg,ciTT| 1 yrotfr^r wtcW -you do not want to hear me, that is Jr «ft 9r^f?fr-^T f?r^ t r *r% 1 ^f-Pt ^ftf *11 right. ^T?nr ?nff fw r 1 ( w ^ r ) ^n? »ff TO7R ^ ?Tfwrff ^PT 2FTT n | ? MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The Mi- 5 ^ % I W«rTTf ^r Wrf nister is here. Why do you worry? ^r T^r 1 1 sfriff ^ ^TRsff ^r m jffoFf ofr | fr 5i^ I I ^T ^nr ^i-^r ^nrr ^r|t *ft WTWWnC TTTfeft : ff ITS ^T^TT t I =^TT^r| I ?TF’T TO ;TOT1T STJR^f aft wff *rV I don’t know with reference to f¥*!> ^frST spT SPT2PT n^TT whom he spoke. He thought Govern- taTfor ifr ^ gpFT< ment ... f t jtr tfk *k+k f t qifr, spp: ^ 5TRT W f % ’EPPTTT q^fT ^TT & fr ’TT7® [Shri Eduardo Falerio] I have said that this is not a mere speculation, American Military Com- the lovo of the countries they aimed? manders themselves have said this. It It was not. These countries including is they who have exposed and ex- our neighbour were supposed to be pressed their idea on Diego Garcia. surrogate policemen, were supposed to indirectly and on behalf of the United In 1974, Admiral Elmo Russell States patrol these areas and contain ZumwaJt, Jr. Chief of Naval Opera- and restrain the role this country tions speaking before the Committee on trying to play and is destined to Foreign Relations of the U. S. Senate play. had this to say. These weie the briefings on Diego Garcia and Patrol Brigade. Mr. Zumwalt said this— In the sixties military naval exercises in tihe Indian Ocean began. There was “I think we have a vital national throughout, as 1 have said, a simmering interest in the preservation of animosity on the part of the United legimes which are friendly to the States against this country. But never Uni bad States through encouraging it became so blatant, so dear, so open them by our presence. Tho absence as at the time of Bangla Dcsh crisis of U.S. forces here, I think, makes when the American Government it likelier that they would succumb spokesmen came out openly against or be replaced by regimes loss tihis country and showed their friendly in nature.” animosity and its Navy started cruising these waters without any attempt to This is the purpose of Ameiican bases cover themselves. all over the Indian Ocean. This is the reason why Diego Garcia is there to threaten ail these countries and par- ticularly to threaten this great country. The latest step of the United States The United States is jealous and con- in this area is 'the fortificaion and cerned about the greatness of thi> strengthening of Diego Garcia. United country. States are no more confident rf in- direct patrolling of this area. United I am happy to share with the House States ar?2 trying to assert and have the r*ews tHs mornir"r that M a u ritm s already asserted their physical pre- has formally asked the United King- sence there. Diego Garcia which dom to return Diego Garcia. It is not started as a support base or some such only Mauritius and Mr. Ram Goolam thing is now the most powerful that aie important. The entire Orga- American base or subjesct matter of nisation of the African Unity has any country’s military base in this backed this demand. I call upon our entire area of the Indian ocean. Why Goveinment to come out strongly in have the Americans this base? Any favour of this demand and make in this amount of reasons can be adduced. House a categorical statement that they But the reason which comes forth are supporting this demand. The from their own statements in that they British Prime Minister has come vvith want to have here a military presence a renrtion which is neither here nor strong enough to put a warning and a there She is not refusing to examine trap to regimes which are not favour- it. But she lias said a curious tl ing able to them. They want a military that the British Government would be base and military power strong enough examining this demand in the context to prop up regimes which they trust of the treaty obligaions. Which treaty but which are not trusted by the obiligations? The treaty was entered people where th°se regimes exist. into by the United Kingdom with the Thai is wthy they are there :n Diego United States at the time when Garcia and Diego Garcia is sought to Mauritius wag to become independent. be strengthened. This is an atrocious legal proposition D.G. 1980-81— M i n . ASADHA 17, 1902 (SAKA) of Ext Affairs 314 that when a Government is going to be, that the policy of Janata Party grant independence or is compelled to Government as far as the United grant independence to another coun- States is concerned, was throughout a try, it enters into a treaty with a third policy of appeasement, of giving every- country and make some territorial con- thing and taking nothing in return. cessions on behalf of the country which This is shown not only in the case of is to ba independent. [t is obvious Diego Garcia but it is shown in that in these circumstances, the coun- several other cases. try which is granting independence is in a fiduciary capacity, holds thh The United States Administration territory in trust for the countiy had entered into a formcijl agreement which is going to attain independence. with this country to supply the much- No clause can come in the way of needed nuclear fuel to our Tarapur depriving the newly independent coun- try of its territory. I hope that the power plant. A large part of western India depends for its industrialisation British Prime Minister and the British Government would re-considev the on the Tarapur Station. In spite of entire position and forget about the the formal agreement, the United so-called treaty obligations which are States again and again, during the not obligations at all because the previous regime, committed breach of treaty i> no treaty at all as far as it its obligation:. What did the Janata is in violation of the territorial inte- Government do? The Janata Party grity of Mauritius. Diego Garcia is ex- Government invited one Mr. Joseph tremely important to us. Therefore, Nye, who was the Secretary of S+ate we mast also applaud the repoit that for Science and Technology. He came the French spokesman on behalf of the here. He had consultations with the French Government has informed that Director of Atomic Energy Commis- France is interested in holding a con- sion. Mr. Sethna. He visited all our ference of all the countrivs [Shri Eduardo Faleiro] international relations. Though we need no certificates from Mr. Kissinger, We know that when President Carter Mr. Kissinger was compelled to ack- came to India, he “advised’’—that is nowledge the acumen and the political how it is reported—the Prime Minister genius of Mrs. Indira Gandhi. We Morarji Desai to have diplomatic re- have also a Foreign Minister whose lations with Israel or at least improve abilities no one has challenged ard diplomatic relations with Israel. So, they are obvious to all. the secret meeting took place. I should think, and all of us do think here, that Shri Vajpayee and Shri Morarji Now, Sir, it is important that we Desai owe an obligation to this Par- revert back, that we forget the sad liament, Shri Vajpayee to this Parlia- chapter of weak-kneed policies that ment and Shri Morarji Desai to this existed from March 197f to January country, to tell as to what actually 1980 and go back to the position, lo transpired in the so-called secret talks the stance which we held. they had with the Israeli Foreign Minister. They must tell us what 14 hrs. actually happened, what were the reasons for the meeting and what actually transpired there. Sir, in We have been accused, this G o v ern - the absence of any valid expla- ment has been accused, time and again nation, several explanations have of a tilt towards the Soviet Union. been adduced in this country. One rea- Well, I do not see any evidence of anv son is that the Janata Government in- tilt or undue inclination towards the tended really to improve its 1 eiation^ Soviet Union. There has been, rather, or even to establish diplomatic rela- a tilt from the Soviet Union towards tions with Israel but it could not, at India, a tilt for which we cannot be that stage, make it public because the blamed. It is not the fault of thio Janata Party (had come to power most- country, and we cannot be expected to ly on the basis of Northern India’s have adverse reactions, if the Soviet vote which has a large Muslim popula- Union has helped us in our industrial- tion and the Muslim population would ization plans. We cannot complain ii be antagonised by strengthening of re- they have helped us on the issue of lations with Israel or giving disploma- Kashmir or Goa and later on our di- tic recognition to Israel. The second fferences with China, One cannot, how- reason which is advanced is that we ever, torget that the Soviet Union is depended on the Arab countries for also subject to the compulsions of a oil supplies and Arab countries would Super Power, and these compulsions mot and actually they did not, take are incompatible with our own interests kindly to any of this type of dialogue. or, for that matter * with the interests These are the reasons which aopear to of the non-aligned countries. It is a fact be plausible unless and until Mr. Vaj- that the Soviet naval forces have beeTi payee or Mr. Morarji Desai come for- cruising in the Indian Ocean. It is a ward with the true facts. fact that the Soviet naval forces cruis- ing now and again in the Indian Ocean We have today a Government which on a large scale constitutes a cause of is euphemistically described as a str- tension in this area. The Soviets make ong Government. It is in fact a Gov- a distinction, which is valid to a poicjt vernment which i$ not only strong, but between a naval base and a naval also has the backing of th»a large num- presence saying that they have no bers and large sections and almost all naval base in this area, but only a sections of people in this country, it is naval presence. Though it may be Jess the Government that knows its respon- dangerousf the difference is merely of sibilities, it is the Government that has degree and not of kind. It makes no the firmness and determination and difference in affecting vitally the In- has the political will with a Prime terests of the people and nations of Minister who has proved her mettle in this area. 317 E.G. 1980-81—Min. ASADHA 17, 1902 (SAKA) of Ext. Affairs 318 The whole issue of the Indian Ocean concerning the talks Hhat are going on is projected to be discussed by ihe with the Republic of China regarding United Nations in 1981 in Colombo, but settlement of our outstanding, ditfer- there are already moves afoot to sabo- ances. He has told us that China has tage this conference. The Western suggested that both countries should Powers, and the United States make concessions, China in the eastern in particular, are advancing rea- sector and India in the western sector, sons, spurious. I think, for not attend- on the basis of actually controlled ing this conference. It is in the inteiests border line so as to solve the Sino- of tlhis country, and I would request Indian boundary question in a package and plead with the Government, to . ee plan. ■> that this conference is held and to ral- ly international opinion in favour of The border dispute is not the main this conference. thing, to my mind. To my mind, the main thing is to restore confidence Jn Events in Afghanistan are a cause of the Chinese leadership. We have been concern to all of us, and by events in betrayed again and again. In a later Afghanistan I mean the Soviet inter- incident, but by no means the only vention there, the large number of So- incident, when Mr. Vajpayee, in aU viet troops which are present in Afg- good faith, in all simplicity, visited hanistan. The Soviets have adduced China—even then we thought that it some reasons for this. They have ex- was wrong; it was not a timely visit plained that there is a treaty of amity, —he was rebuffed. When he was re- friendship and mutual assistance en- bufted? all of us were rebuffed. China tered into a couple of years ago which invaded Vietnam while he was there, requires the Soviet Union, if request- without taking him into confidence. ed by the Government of Afghanistan, to offer military assistance. They say I would say that apart from the that it was not Mr. Karmal, but Mr. border dispute, more important th. Amin, who had requested that troops the border dispute is the restoration of be sent. The Soviets have apparently confidence in the leadership of China. given some assuiances to our Govern- We are here living not in a regimented ment that they are prepared to with- society. We have to convince our peo- draw their troops if only Pakistan does ple that China has changed. I would not send armed rebels to that country like to say that the steps the Govern- This may be a very good reason, but then ment are taking are definitely welcome. the fact remains that the Soviet troops Definitely, we must to the extent pos- in Afghanistan are a cause of tension sible make all efforts to restore good to the whole area. The Government of relations not only with China but with India should make all efforts, take posi- other countries, with neighbouring tive steps, to see that the Soviet troops countries in particular, because we withdraw from Afghanistan as early cannot afford to spend the amount as possible. They have done it, meet- which we are spending on military arms ings have been going on, our high offi- when our country and other countries cials have been visiting that area and like China need mote and more money many other countries. They have been for their own economic development. successful to a point, but we cannot slacken in these efforts and we have to go forward because, I must repeat There are some more outstanding it again and again, countries by and differences between India and China of which the Government should not large of this world are looking for- ward to our leadership to bring this lose sight. What is the stand of China imbroglio, this impasse, to an end by so far as Kashmir is concerned?., China finding a solution. has been speaking about the so-called right of self-determination for Kashmir. A few days back the hon. Foreign It is none of her business. It :s an Minister, replying to a calling atten- internal domestic ^problem of this coun- tion made a statement in this House try. China has nothing to do with it. 319 D.G . 1980-81—Ay in. JU LY 8, 1980 of Ext. Affairs 320 [Shri Eduardo Faleiro] I welcome the decision to set up a mission in Seychelles. It is a right step. Again, so far as Sikkim is concerned, I know and you may be knowing that some days ago, one American map most ef the people in those areas a'*e shewed Sikkim as an independent keen on having our friendship. I country. It is the same position of should say, they want to have the China. It is a coincidence only. But leadership of this country in their own it cannot be very much of a coincidence. joint and common interest. I am con- It is both America and China who fident that this Government is not have declared that Sikkim is an inde- going to deviate from the policies of pendent nation. Pandit Nehru and Krishna Menon who have raised the country to pinnacles China has a border question with of glory in international forums. Bhutan. A few thousands of miles of its territory are in China's illegal occu- With these word, I thank you for pation. Bhutan is an independent giving me this opportunity to speaking country. It can take care of itself. on the demands relating to the Minis- However, this matter is also our con- try of External Affairs. cern because Bhutan is our neighbour- ing country. It requires a dialogue SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA with the Chinese leadership. Whilst (Guna): Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, of we welcome this dialogue with China, all spheres, it is probably the inter- we hope, the response of the Govern- national sphere which sometimes sees ment of India will be a graduated res- the most rapid and far-reaching ponse, a response couched caution in changes. Like earthquakes, tremors view of our previous experience. radiate from new epicentres causing imbalances and shifts in the balance Lastly, I would like to mention two of power. To resist these shock-waves issues which are not altogether unrelat- which are emitted from time to time, ed here. We never had a Foreign it is essential that we remain strong Minister before Mr. Vajpayee, who internally. I would like to quote the visited so many countries abroad and late Shri San jay Gandhi who, a few so often. days before his tragic death, in his last press interview said: AN HON. MEMBER: Voyage-paye^l “People have reason to took at us if we are strong. As long as we are SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO: To ray v/eak and shattered, regardless of ‘‘Voyage-payee” will be adequate. In what we preach nobody is going to spite of that, I would like to point out respect us”. here that Mr. Vajpayee never found time to visit any country in Africa except Tanzania. He went to United unfortunately, three years of Janata States at least twice, but he never Party’s jamboree have left us in a sony visited any country of Latin America. state. We were not only weak internally I should like to plead here that in but we pursued a weak foreign oolicy. view of our compulsions and in view Even in the early days of the now of the need to give an ethical content government in 1977, I had pointed out to international relations and maintain the hazards that lay ahead to Mr. / ta l peace all around the world, we should Bihari Vajpayee, and I quote from my keep our relations with the ruper speech then. 1 had said: powers—I would include China on a minimum level and concentrate in “Mr. Vajpayee has done well in. strengthening our relations with not his first two months in office. But I only other countries of Asia but also Would like to point out that he is countries of Africa and iSouth America a bachelor—and for a bachelor the Avhich we have neglected to a large process of wooing and courting is extent. second nature. 321 D.G. 1080*81—Min. ASADHA 17, 1802 (SAKA) of Ext. Affairs 322 I cannot but quote myself at great with their respect and credibility intact personal risk because I think my wife and the second is some sort of a is within ear-short; guarantee that Afghanistan will not, in future, have an anti-Soviet Government “However, as a married man I even if the Government installed there would like to advise him that it is as a result of the settlement is not only after the honeymoon is over formally a pro-Soviet, Communist one. that the real test of a long-term re- These are the two things we must be lationship begins”. able to offer in any settlement. And the best the West can hope for from a And this is where Mr. Vajpayee and realistic point of view, is that Afghanis- the Janata Party completely failed. tan does net remain part oi the Soviet bloc in the same sense as the Warsaw As I mentioned earlier, epicentres Pact countries are and that the Soviet occur through which shock waves Union begins to move out of Afghanis- emanate. One such epicentre has be- tan immediately; and that, though at come Afghanistan and because of the present the Kabul Government may continuing fragility of the Karmal have Soviet leaning, there would be a regime and because of the intensifi- possibility in future of Afghan nationa- cation cf guerilla activities, it is becom- lism asserting itself and forcing the ing extremely difficult for the Soviet country again into a non-aligned pos- Union to pull out. I feel our Govern- ture. This is the best that the West ment has done the best that was Dossi- should hope for and the only way we ble from th 2 short-term angle and the could solve the issue is if this realistic long-term angle. From the short-term attitude is taken. Otherwise, I cannot angle, we had to concentrate on seeing, see light at the end of the Afghan first, that the problem is contained, tunnel. tnat it does, not escalate, that it does not spill over—because a spill-over The Government must continue to could have very dangerous portents, dissuade other Powers from vitiating for the entire sub-continent, and Af- the atmosphere. Rearming Pakistan ghanistan can become the fore-runner is one such step; it would trigger oft cf an intern ational holocaust. an arms race in the sub-continent. Pakistan would do well to accept the The second important thing that our movement towards a no-war pact in Government has done, in regard to the the Simla spirit, and if any Powers short-term aspect, is that it has man- want to help Pakistan because of any aged to retain the posture by which il Russo-Atghan threat, they should do can still act as a real mediator. Even so by bolstering up Pakistan’s defence when the Mon. Foreign Minister went infrastructure on its western border to the Soviet Union, he was extremely by way of roads, bridges and electri- careful and exteremely guarded in his city to which India could have no ob- statements, and I congratulate him for jection. Pakistan must also stop al- that. It is this position of inter- lowing its territory to be used as a national respect which will enable us base for insurgency into Afghanistan to play a pivotal role in resolving this and the flow of Chinese and American arms must ston. Otherwise; the whole tangle. From the lone-term angle, I can only say that we have to view situation may boomerang on Pakistan things realistically. What is the situa- itself because if at any point the Soviets tion today? We cannot expect the enter the Pakistan territory in chase of Soviet Union to unconditionally with- those insurgents; it may serve as the draw, in the present circumstances, final detonator to a situation pregnant without first eliminating the risk they with the possibilities of an international run of a permanently soft under-belly. calamity. Therefore, any offer that is made to To sum up, three steps, as I said, the Soviet Union must contain two must be taken, first, the rebel move- points. The first is a way to pull out ments must stop;* secondly * Moscow D.G. 1960-81—Min. JULY 8, 1980 of Ext Affairs 3* 4 [Shri Madhavrao Scindia] would try and stop us. But I welcome the Government's stand on the Chinese must be persuaded to have a phased offer. withdrawal from Afghanistan; and the third suggestion which could be exa- As far as our relations with the mined is that further super-power inter- Super Powers are concerned, 1 do not ference may be prevented by setting auite understand the Janata Party’# up supervisory facilities on the and Mr Vajpayee’s phrase, 0f ‘genuine borders under the United Nations’ non-alignment’. What is genuine ‘non- auspices. alignment’ and what is non-alignment? It is like a husband telling his wife to Afghanistan definitely poses the dan- be ‘genuinely faithful’. What is the ger of becoming a permanent focus meaning of that? We have to recognise for regional instability and super that our world today has transgressed power interference. from a bi-Dolar to a multi-uclar one. In this context, the Chinese offer of The traditional super powers, the Uni- solving the Sino-Indian dispute in a ted States and the USSR, are two dis- spirit of cordiaiity and mutual respect tinct power poles. But the emergence has been rightly welcomed by our Gov- of China and Western Europe, as a ernment. Mr. Faleiro is absolutely power pole distinct from the United right in saying that it has to be a gra- States, does not now allow for a situa- duated movement, and various other tion conducive to bi-polar monopoly. matters which may be vitiating the Therefore, the Government would do atmosphere between us, the Chinese well by maintaining a bilateral rela- should stop doing. We must not merely tionship w’ith each of these power view this question in terms of an poles, of course, not at the neglect of explicit offer ou the Part of the Chinese the African continent, Asia or South Vice-Premier Deng Xiao Ping to freeze America. the situation in the north-easi and It is natural that because of our north-west. It is not merely a question geographical situation and because we of how much land India loses or how are mutually beneficial to each other much land China gains. It is the atti- that we lean more towards the Soviet tude that is reflected in this offer that Union. We cannot forget the su p p o rt we must reciprocate, and this is what they gave us in 1971 « to see that this does not become a projected aims is once again becoming major East of Suez Sprinbboard. We a policy of initiation and not mere res- must resist this process of making the ponse, action and not mere reaction, Indian Ocean into a cockpit of super- realpolitike and not more dogma. The power rivalry. As our leader, Shrimati whole world is once again looking to- Indira Gandhi said, 'We are neither pro- wards us for counsel and for initiatives America nor pro-Russia. We are only to calm troubled waters and I have no pro-India.* and I am glad that our gov- doubt that under our Prime Minister’s ernment is fttaiSlating this into action. leadership we will once again play an influential and constructive rPle in the Finally, with regard to Nepal, we international arena. have old historical and cultural ties. They are an essential part of the Sub- SHRI SATYASADHAN • CHAKRA- continent, south of the Himalayas and, BORTY (Calcutta South): Mr. Deputy- therefore, there will always be a natu- Speaker, Sir, first of all, I would like ral bias towards us. At the same time, to congratulate our Foreign Minister on a long common border with Nepal offers his announcement in this House yester- many points of potential friction and, day recognising the Kamcuchean Gov- therefore, a major steps towards streng- ernment. But, I fail to understand why thening relations would be a greater the Government of India took so much understanding on harnessing liver of time to come to a decision which the waters. For example, the i£arnali and Government should have taken earlier. Kosi projects are capable of producing The people of the whole world, particul- 4,500 MWs and 3,500 MWs of electri- arly, the people who are struggling city. But, in spite of our government's against Imperiai#7i, neo-colonialism, offer, no appreciable progress has been are watching us closely. That is whv made on this issue. It ig unfortunate this unnecessary delay has caused a because it would prevent the fl^od suspicion in a section of the people. havoc caused on the Indian side and it Most probably, the Indian Government would give us a massive power source was trying to appease certain forces, which we will be needing during the which the Government should not. have next decade. At the same time, it done. So, a right step, though belated, would help Nepal eliminate the ne,<:ative has been taken by the Government of trade balance with us as it would give India for which I extend my whole- them a very large fund of foreign ex- hearted congratulations to the 'Govern- change. The Nepalese Finance Minister ment of India. in his budget mentioned about the fleteriorating trade gap between India Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, in the world and Nepal from the Nepalese point of of to-day the foreign policy of a counti y view. Therefore, a greater effort is is important. We are living in a world required to convince Nepal about the where the nations are not isolated. benfits to both sides from harnessing Gone are the days of national isolation. these river waters. A great deal of Because of technological, economic, maintenance effort is required to en- commercial and scientific progress, the sure this friendly relationship with world has come very close and so the Nepal and progress on river waters foreign policy of a particular country is would symbolise a major break- very important. That is why I say our through. foreign policy is important. Now, how to judge our foreign policy? I hear Mrs. Gandhi’s leadership and the sea- some of my friends talking about super- soned and balanced stewardship of our power rivalry. I hear interpretations Foreign Minister, Mr. Narasimha Rao of world politics as if the world politics has restored the dynamism that was has been dominated by the two super- lacking in our external affairs policy. powers who are in possession of arma- Our policy which should be one of ments, particularly that the nuclear enlightened self-interest based on our weapons dominate the world. But, is it D.G. 1980-81—Min. JULY 8, 1980 of £xt. Affairs 328 [Shri Satya Sadhan Chakraborty] United States of America. It was Mr. a fact or is it not that what we are John Foster Dulls who in the name of watching to-day is the struggle against containment of communism actually Imperialism and colonialism? Is it not established and Expanded American a fact that to-day, the main struggle is military bases all over the world. Any against imperialism, colonialism and underdeveloped country trying to stand neo-colonialism? If we look at uie on its own legs was stamped as com- Latin American countries, the African munist. Even during his life-time this countries, the Asian countries, we will policy of containment was extended find that even to-day, the vast resources to liberation. They were spending of these countries are exploited by the billions of dollars in the name of imperialists- The majority of the guaranteeing “freedom** but actually people of the world are still in hunger, to enslave the newly liberated un er~ poverty ana ill-health. That is because developed countries and to destroy of the exploitation by the imperialist liberated East-European countries. countries. Now what we find is that from 1950 to 1965, in the U.S.A.. there Today the imperialist oowers are was a net inflow of capital to the planning directly or indirectly to main- extent of 16,000 millions dollars. tain their hold over the economic re- Although old types of exploitation sources of these develonea anc* under- have gone, a new type of exploita- developed countries. I would like the tion in the shape of neo-colonialism Government of India—particularly our could be seen. Whatever aid these Foreign Minister—10 determine our role imperialist countries like the U.S.A. in this context. Where do we stand? etc. can give us, that does not help us. Who are our friends? Who are our T h ey give us aid so that we remsin a enemies? I remember aftei achieving perpetual dependent on them. This will independence we rightly decided that t>e clear if we analyse the word econo- for our own independence economic my. The economy of the .-West Ger- development we must have non-align- many, U.S.A., England and France is ment Non-alignment should not mean, based on the exploitation of these un- as some of my friends want it to mean, developed and developing countries of that we must eauate the two powers. the world. In this context we are to Non-alignment should not mean balanc- analyse our own foreign policy where ing. Non-alignment should mean that do vve stand in the struggle against we must take a stand against imperia- colonialism, against imperialism? lism and colonialism. Ttm we a'd in Bandung Conference. But I am In this light also, our ooiicy of non- pained to see that because of the clas^, alignment has to be examined. After position of the Government of India and all, as I have already mentioned, the because of the dependance of our econo- most important factor to-day is th? my on the western countries that we economic and political development of are not in a position to stres® and em- all the countries of the world. Gone phasise this anti-colonial and anti- are the days of the Ovist gun-boat imperialist role. Once you give conces- diplomacy. The Imperialist powers sion to the imperialist powers in the know that they cannot exploit the economic field you are bound to give human and other natural resources of them concession in political fi*>ld Think these undeveloped and developing of Tarapore! USA is commilton. But countries through direct method. That see what is happening there. Hnw they is why they want to have a puppet are trying to put pressure on us. So. regime. That is why they want to it is dangerous that we depend economi- have armed bases and that is dangerous cally on any country, nartioularlv the for the newly liberated countries of imperialist countries. That is whv 1 Asia, Africa and Latin America. As a must emphasise that if we want to have matter of fact right after the second real non-alignment we must also have world war this has been the policy of this economic strength to sustain that the impuralist powers mainly the non-aginment otherwise the danger of D.G. 1980-81—Min. ASADHA 17, 1902 (SAKA) of Zxt. Affairs 330 giving political concessions to imperia- gling people of the world. Can you lists will be there. cite any instance, when the Soviet veto went against the struggling peo- Now, in this context 1 must say that ple of the world? No. My friends in it is dangerous—it has been discussed this House have been talking about in this House—that the previous Gov- the Soviet military presence in Af- ernment had some dialogue with Moshe ghanistan. Why is that the Soviet Dayan. Who was this Moshe Dayan? Army had to be sent to Afghanistan? Was he not responsible for all those Is it because of the fact of the pre- imperialist intrigues in the Middle East? sence of the Soviet Armf that there Is it not a fact that Israel is the base ol is tension there? No. The fact is this: the American imperialists in the A rab The moment there was a change ot world? Is it not a fact trat Israel has Government—a Government commit- been used against Arab people and how ted to certain drastic socio-economic the people of the world will judge us reforms—the USA took upon itself when we have dialogue with a person the responsibility of going back to the like Moshe Dayan? That we are to status quo. They have given arms to think about. Pakistan. Pakistan area was used to Sir, I must say that th?re are some train counter-revolutionary forces. friends who arc taiking about Soviet More than 3.50 lakhs of counter-revo- military presence. Is is nor a fact lutionaries were armed and many of that whenever we tried to take any them were sent to Afghanistan. This anti-imperialist stand the United Sta- situation was created by the U.S.A. tes of America came in the way. Who with the help of Pakistan. That is was beside us in the Kashmir pro- why the Soviet Army had to be there. blem? It was the Soviet Union. My friends asked about the Soviet To equate Soviet Union v/ith United Military presence there. May I ask States of America or to pquate the them about this? Since 1950, in South socialist bloc with western countries Korea there has been the presence of is dangerous. After all, we have to the American military forces. In the judge countries by what they do,— beginning of this year, a joint exer- whether actually they are for the cise was made and that armed pre- struggling people, whether they are sence was used to terrorise the stu- really for freedom, whether they are dents and the people there who were with us in our struggle against anti- struggling against Imperialism. (In- colonialism and anti-imperialism. terruption) We are very much against Now, Sir, j might cite an incident the stationing of forengn military in Bangla Desh liberation struggle. forces in any country. My party has Some people are talking about the said it. I say it also emphatically— Soviet military presence in the Indian we are against the stationing of for- Ocean. Sir, when Bangla Desh was eign army in any country. But, re- fighting for freedom, India Govern- garding Afghanistan, the western ment was standing by her side. It block has raised this ballyhoo that was the American 7th Fleet which ap- Soviet Union has committed aggres- peared there to protect the hated re- sion on Afghanistan. The people are gime in Bangla Desh. It was only coming to see, despite thick smoke- the presence of the Soviet fleet which screen created by the imperialists, saved the situation. So, we should the facts about the armed interven- not equate these two powers. If we tion outside on the part of Pakistan equate these two powers in this way, backed by U.S.A. it will be dangerous for Us also. We should not do it. Now, the simple thing ip this. The Soviet Union is demanding this. Let In the UNO, on all occasions the there be a guarantee that there will Socialist States stood by the strug- be no outside interference. Let the 331 D.G. 1980-81—Min. JULY 8, 1980 of £xt. Affairs 332 (Shri Satyasadhan Chakraborty) aueady built naval and air-base there. For what purpose? Some friends Afghan people decide their own destiny. talk that the Soviet Union wants The Soviet Union does not want to entry into warm waters. Is it neces- decide the destiny of the Afghan sary that with the advancement of people. Hut at the same time, science and technology, they require the U. S. A. aipo has to guaran- warm waters? It is the Western pro- tee that it will not interfere pagandists who are telling that they through Pakistan. It is a very reason- require warm waters. No, Sir, it is able demand. When the Soviet Union the USA which is trying to use Diego proposed t'nat there should be a Garcia as its base. What is happen- guarantee, that there should not be ing in the Middle East? There was a any outside interference, and they resolution of the United Nations for should pull out their army, there the withdrawal of Israel forces. Now, should be a talk with the Karmel Gov- the United Staves of America enti- ernment, initially Washington declar- ced the Sadat Government to enter ed that there w as some substance into bilateral agreement with Israel. in the offer. But later on, they.chang- Now, they are interfering in Arab ed their mind and their spokesman bloc with one aim and it has been said: We are not going to consider amply made clear by the U.S.A. that it. Now what happens? Today, USA they are interested in that part of the is trying to intensify the co ld war. world because of oil. And that is USA is trying to strengthen its mili- why they are using Israel. Now, they tary presence everywhere. T his is are using Egypt. That is their policy. a real danger for all of us. Indian Government will h ave to be vigilant It is good anc* we are happy that and take a stern stand against the the Chinese Government has expres- latest moves of the U.S.A. T hey are sed its desire to have normal rela- trying to intensify and to w iden the tions with us and it is also hearten- areas of conflict. ing to know that our Government is also responding to it favourably. Sir, detente wag achieved through, Whatever may be the differences bet- the long preservance of the socialist ween the two countries, we should not countries and also due to som e sort forget for a moment that w e have of favourable attitude shown bv the vast border areas with China. We U.S.A. But all those agreements are cannot remain perpetually in animasi- shattered. Now, about the SALT-II ty with China. It is not possible. I agreement, the U S A has refused to am not going into the merits but the sign it. That 13 the real danger. India cold facts will dictate that we must is a vast country, a very great coun- have good relations with the People’s try and our foreign p olicy will have Republic of China. This will help us tremendous effect on world politics. in two ways. First, it will reduce our That is why our non-alignment is defence burdens. I would al3o sug- very important. Our party has sup- gest that we must maintain good re“ ported the stand taken by the Gov- lations with China, as it would defuse ernment of India. Whenever it took the tension in the vast areas of the a stand against imperialism and colo- world. I think we can sort out things, nialism, we supported it. We suppor- talk to them across the table and set- ted non-alignment. But the danger is tle the matter. My party always stood this that because of certain weakness for one thing, it stands for One thing you irmy give concessions to the im- —friendly relations with all our nei- perialist powers, which will be very ghbours. dangerous. Now, Sir, I come %to the Indian AN HON. MEMBER: Which is vour Ocean. You know Americans have party? 333 D G' 1W0-81-^Min. ASADHA 17, 1902 (SAKA) of Ext. Affairs SHRI SATYASADHAN CHAKRA- by those people and we must tell the BORTY: It is Marxist Communist imperialists that they should not in- Party. I am sorry you don’t know terfere in that politics of Latin Ame- this. Now, we cannot remain in per- rican countries. petual animosity with China. And that is why my party, Marxist Com- Only the other day there was the munist Party, has stood always lor Islamic Conference in Islamabad. I one thing, that is, let there be good have nothing to say against Islam; relations with all our neighbours in- they are entitled to have a conference. cluding Pakistan, and that is what the What they were telling was: “There Government of India is now going to has been an aggression in Afghanis- do. tan; pull out.” I would iike to ask how many of them have democratic Why is the United States of America form of Government in their own arming Pakistan? It is just be- countries. Those Heads of States who cause of the fact that Pakistan has are suppressing their own people are Allowed its military bases to be used coming out as defenders of the people against India and it has now taken a of Afghanistan. This is a very sorry stand as against the struggling peo- state of affairs. ple of Asia and Africa. Even then, I would beseech our Government to We find today that the Indian Gov- have good relations and also to see ernment has taken certain positive that the Simla agreement is imple- steps towards the unity of the non- mented. aligned countries and a conference of Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, it is also these countries. We believe that this important to note what is happening attitude of the Government of India in Africa. The Zimbabwe Govern- will have a certain positive influence ment has come into existence after on the world events, and also what is a long struggle, but the imperialist necessary from the Indian point of powers are using South Africa as view is that we require peace. We their base. It is really astonishing to require peace of our own economic, find how the South African Govern- social and political development. Any ment is continuing its apartheid poli- power which endangers peace is cy. In the United Nations, all agree an enemy of the Indian people. As I that they are against it, but how can have already said, if you go deep in- a small country defy the world opi- to the matter, you will see that the nion until and unless it is backed by recent moves of the United Stales of the imperialist powers? The imperial- America are such as to endanger the ist powers speak something else to peace of the world. They are openly hoodwink the world opinion, but they saying today that they should have defend this apartheid regime in South some sort of a rigid policy; they Africa. We must clearly understand should be very assertive and they this and we must say to the impe- are trying to isolate the Soviet Union rialists and neo-colonialists: “Hands and also the socialist countries. This off Africa”. The Africans have strug- is a real danger of which our Gov- gled an(* suffered for a long time be- ernment should be aware. cause of ruthless exploitation by these Finally, I would say that while people. We must stand by the side broadly supporting the non-alignment of these struggling people of Africa. policy o# the Government of India, I There are other regions of the world must also point out the weakn^&es like Latin America. Except Cuba, that exhibited by the GoMfaAjhnt this region is used by the imperialist of tn$ift, particularly the tff^fetous United States of America as a sup- trend of equaling the two witter po- plier of raw material. We must stand wers, the United States of America D.G. 1980-01—Min. JULY 8, 1980 of Ext. Afiaiis 336 [Shri Satyasadhan Chakraborty] with the desires of the people in India. The Congress manifesto issued at the and the Soviet Union, and for that time of general elections to the Seventh matter the socialist countries. Tne Lok Sabha specifically stated that whole socialist bloc stands for peace, Kampuchea would be recognised. The freedom and independent develop- recognition given by this government ment of all the countries of the world. is a step to fulfil the promises given It is dangerous to equate all these in the manifesto; and from that Tjoint with the United States of America and of view also what the government has the imperialist bloc. I would re- done is welcome. The incident in quest our Foreign Minister to re-exa- Afghanistan has caused some unrest mine it. I have seen in the Report that in our minds, but I must congratu- has been presented to us that today late the government on this point and the danger is viewed in this way also for having dealt with it in a very that the two super powers are lock- adroit manner: it would not be neces- ed up in a battle for global suprema- sary for me to say as to what xvere cy. This is not the correct way of the points involved in it, how it seeing things. I once again empha- was dangerous and all those things. sise that this should be treated as a It is too early for me to make ony struggle of the oeople of the world, commentary cn that. I would not against imperialism, against colonial- say much on that point except that ism, against neo-colonialism, against the government has dealt with tr,at military build-up, against the danger issue in a very careful, cautions and of returning to the days of the cold diplomatic manner. We had an op- war, against the danger of nuclear portunity to hear in this House the holocaust where the whole human views given by our government on a race will be exterminated. So, we proposal made by the Chinese govern- are to examine who stands for what. ment. China is our immediate nei- If the whole socialist bloc, if the So- ghbour. Pakistan is also our imme- viet Union stands for peace, libera- diate neighbour. We do not want to tion, anti-imperialism and anti-colo- see that they are on enemical terms nialism we should be more close to with us. Unfortunately for us we them and seek their coooeration. We had to cross swords with each othei must defeat the forces of imperialism and there was some bad blood bet- and colonialism. With thrse words 1 ween our countries. We do want to conclude. normalise our relations with our im- mediate neighbours. There is no SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL (Latur): doubt about that. We would like to Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, after my see Pakistan prosper. We would like speech, I would be required to occu- to see China doing well. But at the py the Chair which your goodself is same time it would not be possible occupying now. I will speak until for us to forget our history. We have the bell is rung. We have heard to be careful about their proposals. three very scintillating speeches just Foreign poli:ies are formulated not on now, and in those speeches, the most the basis of proposals made every now important topics of the day are dis- and then. There are so many other cussed at great length. Therefore, it things which would be taken into would not be necessary for me to give account: the geographical situation, my views on those topics at a very hitorical developments, the philosophy great length. The Government of or the policy that the countries India granted a full diplomatic sta- follow and their approach towards tus to PLO .and has recognised Heng world problems. All those things are Samar'wri Government in Kampuchea. to be taken into account and then we And I think these steps are in line have to formulate our policies and we 337 D.O. 1980-81—Min. ASADHA 17, 1902 (SAKA) of Ext. Affairs 338 have to adopt our approach towards have invented, not because they have those problems. We do want good re- been able to find out new things and lations with China and that would be develop them alone. the desire of the Indian people also. At the same time I should urge upon our government to consider the pro- 15 hrs. posals in a dispassionate manner, in Of course, these elements are there. a manner which would protect the But they have been rich and they interests of our country. There is the have been fortunate (by exploiting eastern border. There is the western other countries also. So, to-day the border. There are so many countries world is divided into two factions— surrounding the western sector of our one which is rich and the ofher which country which is in dispute. We have is not rich. The United Nations is to take into account all those as- trynig to create a new international pects. Then we have to come forward economic order. I do not know how and accept what they say or reject we shall have to move in this direc- what they say. Of course our policy tion, how we would be able to should be to negotiate, not out of fear create a new international economic but at the same time not to fear to ne- order, but I think unless we create gotiate. Our policy would be to nego- a new international econmic order, tiation but we would not negotiate an order in which there would not because we are dominated by any fear be ay exploitation, an order in which psychosis. That should be our policy there would be justice done to all the with respect to this problem. Of countries, an order in which the course we shall have to be very care- poor countries will have their own ful with respect to the proposals that say, they would not be able to use have come from China and then we their own raw material and they have to formulate our policy. would not get the assistance from other countries also and their finish- The world today is facing a very ed goods also will not be able to great danger. As rightly pointed out find markets in the developed coun- by one of the hon. -Members in this tries unless a situation of that kind House, there are countries which want is created, it would not be possible to perpetuate their hegemony over to have a world which would be terrotries in this world. There are free from danger of world conflag- countries which do not want to £ive ration. What is important at this away the advantages that were avail- time is to see that all the developing able to them. In the present day countries come together. Their unity world it is not possible to have a ter- is the only strength that they have ritory under one’s sovereignty and to at their disposal. If they are united, rule over that territory but new me- they can stand. But if they are not thods are invented to exploit territo- united, they may not be able to stand ries. New methods are invented to see against the developed countries. Theii’ that raw material is purchased at a unity is ncessary. The point is how cheap price and finished goods are to bring about this unity in this sent to those countries at a high price. respect. If wg are able to create Today the philosophy that should be unity between the developing coun- accepted by all countries, should be: tries, it would be possible to develop if you want to be happy, see that their economy, it would be p-ossible others are also happy. But unfortu- to give them strength # It would be nately for this world, that is not the possible to make them equal to the philosophy that is generally accepted. developed countries in the world also. That is why in the world today we So, that is one of the most important points wfcich has to be kept in view. have rich countries and we have poor countries. The rich countries are rich In my opinion, in olden days,, not because they have worked or they countries fought 9 for pieces of land^ D.G. >980-01—Min. JULY 8, 1980 of Ext. Affairs 340 [Shri Shivraj V. Patil] would be necessary for us to formu- late our policy and to have the world for territories. But now there would opinion formulated in such a manner be fighting not or territories but as to see that what we find in the fighting for domination over the open ocean, open sea, what we find in the sea. The open sea is becoming more space and outer space, remains the and more important. Now people common heritage of mankind. There have come to realise that the sea are countries which want to exploit bed is capable of giving us food, mi- it. But the stand of the developing nerals, oil and so many other thmgs countries is that this is a common and the sea beds and the open sea is heritage of mankind and th^t has to not dominated by any countries at be used in such a fashion as to give present. So, the developed countries, strength to the developing countries. the rich countries are trying to esta- These points are to be borne in mind. blish military bases in certain parts of the world and are trying to dominate the open sea and the sea bed also. It would be necssary for us to see that the battle ground does In my opinion, the United Nations not shift from land to water. It was created to see that the wars are would be necessary to see that the not fought in this world. There were open sea is not dominated by any big powers which were responsible developed countries. for the creation of the United Na- tions. There is no doubt about it. But now in the United Nations there So much has been said about Diego are small countries sitting who are Garcia and the base having been es- expressing their views very boldly. tablished by the Americans. That Those views are not liked by some may be for political reasons, for poli- of the big powers. Today, unfortu- tical reasons tc control the littoral nately, a position has developed States, to control the oil rutes and when some of the big powers do not to control so many countries which want that the United Nations should are not toeing their line. There is continue as it is and should have no doubt about that. One more point that power which was available to which has to be borne in mind with it in the olden days. These people respect to that is that they want to are saying that the United Nations dominate this part of the world also, has become out of date and it would the world which is covered by water. not be necessary to help the United They want to dominate that also and Nations. If justice is to be done, for that reason they are establishing if the developing and poor countries these bases over there. are to be helped, if economic equali- ty is to be established in the world, the United Nations is the only organi- The space, outer space, these are sation which can help in this respect. also the spheres in which people That is why, it would be necessary are trying to establish hegemony and for us to help the United Nations in their sovereignty. In olden days we all respects, to see that its prestige did not bother ourselves about the goes up, that it becomes more and space and the outer space. Now we more strong, that it becomes more have realised that one of the most and more effective and to see that important sources of energy is the the designs which are coming forth sun and we would be getting energy to •cuttle its powers and strength are from the sun. We have started send- thwarted. It would be necessary to ing satellites which would be orbit- see that the United Nations is given ing our earth and which would be the strength and power so that it going through this universe and space turns into an organisation which will is also becoming a sphere where con- help all the developing countries of flicts between nations can arise. It the world. 3 4 1 D.G. 1930-81—Min. ASADHA 17, 1902 (SAKA) of Ext, Affairs 343 I had an opportunity of going to apnrnfr w r*m & t * fat? f^$- some foreign countries and visiting wfarrf tit our embassies over there. I may be *cTT jj STtfrT % qTiTifta ffss* allowed to say that the conditions sRpafcr *rcw tftr sntf that I had seen in those embassies srrsr fRr* fHTfr TOT«§r-*flrRT % $ were not very happy. The furniture T^ &T ift ZFZTWT? &TT £ I ^ that was available there, the other ^ f ^ r w&w % s# facilities and amenities that were &&T % fk^TT v r t | f *** ^ ^ cTO cPTTsff ^ irsp spasrr afs available there, were such that I W\ ft f t 1 1 % *rrrf could not feel happy. I thought that cTO T3TT ? I ^TT| qrwr trftpn it was necessary for us to give them ^ t| sfsr>T$af rrfm\ gpt 3r, w tt- more facilities, to provide them with vt Sr srw some minimum so that they could % % *t pt TPP^rnr ferzrr, 5r> I am thanking to you, Sir, that you % aft «rrsrm]PT FcrwT srrsTT- have not rung the bell. I have promis- r^T3TRT «f, ^ f^rfcTcT ft ^ ?^T ed to you that I would finish before fk*n i 'hrefta ^ f w ?^t FTOT 3fr fjRTSTrT ^ the second bell is rung. I thank you SHTTTT ^ very much that you have not rung ^?r ^ t s^rerr t a r i the bell at all. ftwi?f¥ 8fft aPT^TT ^Tcf ^ riw srrt?fT i ? ^ ^ ^ irf «rrart5fnff % snf)*^ | %ftx v i tnm : (itwV*t) : t o w s rc r v w qw * t t m *r ^ fwTRm J i % *mT*fcr fafcr tfrft aft f*rrm % ^TPRr qr yw W ?r 343 D-G. 1980-01—Min. JULY 8, 1980 of Ext. Atfairs 344 tit tiff ^ f?rr i ^*r ’“mrrr tii vt |, ?ft 1976 t $*T VK tft fr $T JPTTttft, f& gm m fa&ft «irnTfT 4 ^ rT t:o ?r«rr r t f W f t t *0 ^ $<■ ^ \ *PT «TTf 1977 3 ^ 5 f^TTT ^t aft ^ $, $iftrr $*rrtt ^PTT ?^T 1979, ^ t ^ ®TnTTT %*W * ^ m r tit «ft ^ rt «rfas*ra ^ ^ i 6 prrT ^Ttf £r w i ^ ^ *£fc- f & m % fp-w ^ &f ?ft 8 ^rT ^rt? 1977 % sre *rt |*rr* Wst 3% ^t irr^rr «rr i ^ ^t ^^tt ^Tts * %$* jn^prr, fT^% 'frt-^r ^rrn % i t ^ t % ^mr Trwr-^tg H^'Vrn' TTTTc f % hW t t ?rrt | i # frtTT W , 5T^rr^TSpTT «ftr ^ fr I f S f r % 30 W ^t f^^ft HTTTTT % W % %, ^*FPT 5«Tfr^TT m n tit, ^tt ^rrar ^ tfwrowM wt ^TT^ ^T tit ^W^TT T¥T, ^r vt fr^nrr ?rnr f^rr ? ^ ^rT^rm ^ «rrsr vft w m Ttt tit «r^rfwr t t ^ i fr r r f ^ r qrrarr % flfjrw # f w TT T^T I I ^T ^ S fw b r tii § ?ft jjwrr ^ n r , #fr^r f^ W T ? r * m r srfrr tt^ «fk fr «rr% % f ^ D.G. 1980-8t*~Min. ASADHA 17, 1902 (SAKA) of Ext. Affairs 346 $Tfom w Trq 1 v rfw * v x srr?*rr t^ t tf, m & ^ r v t 5 ^ r n v n vt iff tv?rr tfhc w inr^?r vrr^rr t, far ?r f^^rrjr % *fr frr^r ^ 1% : 1 tfr fOrcrr ?!f wfprr 1 1 «m rT T O r^ % ^ n r ^r art ^f?r ^r ^ ^^rrf, ** HtfroT t f st t t , $rnrr ft ?jdH 5 not, of another war. This is the situa- t o [eft fa? trot] tion that we see today in 1980. The «7rt ( «#h flnmra* % situation has worsened not only in % sstr wxt % vw $rrr w W % wtfrfar our part of the world. Because of ^ fFTTTT T^»T *TT, SST TT the situation in the neighbourhood, fa rff fvm \ v x % f m $ m Tt WTf naturally in our region there is ten- ’arr^rr g i sion, there is an extremely grave situation and. as somebody had said qn^JTTT, Tt *Ti$ ^PTT Tt^TT far the cold war has reached our door- 3ft ^tr^T ftrsfa |, % TT#’ 5f step. I think that description is w farr *rrfar S*rr^ wfanfr - world situation, and whatever is hap- Janata regime; then, Mr. Foreign- pening in our part of the world also Minister, you have carried the same will have to be considered in the message forward and tried to improve context of what is happening in the the relations with Pakistan. This* is world and its repercussions on our what we have to do. We do not part of the world and in other parts want Pakistan to be in trouble. I pray of the world. that Pakistan remains stable and powerful. But looking to the basic conflict between the people of Pakis- tan and its military rulers, one shivers If we come to the crescent of the to think what is in store for Pakistan crisis, we see that the problems of in future. And this i£ something the Middle East are stili unsolved. On very serious. It is not a matter for the contrary I would say that, des- satisfaction to India at all. pite the Camp David Agreement and It is a matter of great concern many talks between Israel and Egypt, to us. In a neighbouring country if the Middle East still continues to be there is some sort of instability being an explosive problem; not only an built up, what happens to India explosive problem, but an explosive the next question; therefore, we have area. The question of Palestine is to worry ourselves. So, this is the still alive; not only alive but un- picture of the Middle East, solved; and there are not even re- Iran going this way and Pakistan mote chances of its being solved in that way. So, in this background the near future. Turkey is in diffi- we have to consider some of the culty. If we see Iran, the whole his- questions that 1980 has confronted tory of Iran is a history that should us with. open the eyes of all developing coun- tries. The U.S.A. adopted it as a fri- end and tried to give it strength and base—some sort of strength—m Asia. The first problem is the problem of But what did they do? They tried Afghanistan and I can say with satis- to build up a structure of modern faction that the position we have power on the basis of a feudal system taken, this government has taken and and, therefore, the entire modern this country has taken is basically a power structure collapsed under its balanced position. Of course, we have own weight when the future of the taken a position that we cannot jus- feudal system became dark. The tify sending of an army by one Shah-en-Shah—I am sorry for him— sovereign country into another sove- had to leave. He is not well todav. I reign country. We have said that we am not criticising anybody. But that cannot justify. This is the position we is the difference between the policy have taken and I think this was ap- of an imperialist power and the policy preciated by many countries in the of any developing country trying to world. At the same time, there is get itself involved in the net of a big- another aspect about which we have ger power, imperialist power. This is taken a position that the conditions the fate that they will ultimately in Afganistan—Afghanistan is a fri- meet with. When we are consider- endly country and non-aligned ing the neighbourhood of India, we country, a sovereign country—are such will have to consider these problems that somebody from outside, reaction- more carefully. What has happened ary forces from outside tried to in- J in Pakistan is causing us concern I terfere with its internal affairs. Th.it am ^ glad that we have taken many also is a matter which cannot he initiatives and tried to improve our supported. Here again, J must say relations in the last four or five years that we will have to see the percep- --not only by one administration; I tion by the USSR of the other forces. thmk it was done during the previ- I think our Prime Minister was say- ous administration, then during the ing-—-and it is very correct—that So- D.G. 1980-81—Min. JULY 8, 1980 of Ext. Affairs 352 [Shri Yashwantrao Chavan] In the last 25—30 years, since, I think, Khrushchev visited India in viet Russia gets a feeling of being 1955, nearly 25 years or more than encircled. If President Carter feels that have passed we have found 1hat that his national interest gets threat- in every difficult time and in every ened if something happen to the Gulf, crisis and in every process of develop- should not USSR feel threatened ment, Soviet Russia has stood by In- if something happens to just its next- dia, and that is what is more door neighbour, Afghanistan? This is important. Whether one is a super exactly what happened there. They power or not a super power is not feel that they are being encircled. the problem. That is the difficulty Therefore, there is no necessity to of USA. go far to seek the reasons and the compulsions which ultimately led So- They are a super power and we viet Russia to send its forces in Af- are not grudging it. But how they ghanistan. are using their capacity of influenc- ing the world situation—that is more important. And it is very interesting But, I am glad that they have to see how they do that. They have taken a position—we have also made not got in their policy frame-work our own contribution by putting up anything which will look into the pro- these problems in a very correct way blems of political and social changes to Soviet Russia—that the Army will in the world. have to be withdrawn and they have conceded this point that the Army Therefore, if you see from Vietnam will have to b? withdrawn. And the onwards, all along, whether it may be Army will be withdrawn when the in South America, whether it may be causes for which they were sent, in South Africa or whether it may be ceased to exist. Sometimes we had in South East A sia or in the Middle- ourselves also sent our Army across East, the U.S.A., its forces, its power the borders. But, fortunateiy the and its wealth and its prestige have causes for which we sent our Army always gone to the help of the reac- were removed within a few weeks tionaries and to keep the status quo:. and, therefore, our Army could come This is the difference. Normally they back very soon. are called i?uper-powers looking to their structure, their military capabi- lities, their wealth and their capacity I agree that Soviet Russia on the etc. to influence the world. They arc one side and the USA on the other super-powers in that sense. But, I side are super powers. They are glo- won’t put them in one bracket. I bal powers but like Mr. C handrajit would only weigh it in the light of Yadav, I would not like to put them • our own experience of the national in one bracket. It is a fact of politi- interests. As to how one country be- cal reality that they are super powers haves with the other countries and and global powers. They have a glo- how the other countries behave with bal strategy and global interests. But us is the test; we cannot afford to one thing which is more imp-ortant forget the tilt of the U.S.A. against is: what is our experience of these India in 1971 when India was passing super powers? We should go by the through a most diffiicult period. experience that we have of the super powers. What is our experience of Mr. Chairman, Sir, I would give my the super power called, the United compliments to our country. Tt is States of America? And what is our not a question of giving a compliment experience of the super power called, to Shri Rao or to the Prime Minister the Union of Soviet Socialist Repub- individually. It is rea lly a matter lics—tbt USSR? of pride for our country that our D.G. 1980-81—Min. ASADHA 17, 1902 (SAKA) of Ext. Affairs 354 country has taken the correct position. the very next day, they gave this Why we have been able to do that is proposal to a journalist. That is what the most important point to which I th e y ca ll ‘diplomacy through people’. am coming to. That is because basi- This is their technique-not to directly cally our approach has been in the recognise the Government bat to interests of world peace. Our interest talk 0ver the head of the Government is not on the side of one super-power to the people and to say, ‘Look, or th e other because we are wedded how friendly we are. We are pre- to non-alignment. This is one key pared to solve the problem. Now f policy that India has accepted and, as the ball is in your court. See what long as we stick to the key policy of you can do. If you can d^a, it is non-alignment, our answer will be good. Otherwise...... ’ absolutely correct—whatever may be Here I would like to say one thing. the issue or problem that comes up. The problem will have to be tackled So, in this difficult situation, what in a more basic manner, in a more *do we do? In the recent months, we fundamental manner. If at all we have got another problem, that is, the have to see China, we will have to problem of China, because China has see what China’s world perception is. Naturally, as far as bilateral rela- made a move for solving the problem of the boundary question. We rather tionship between India and China is concerned—I was in the External talk too much of the boundary pro- blem between India and China. Well, Affairs Ministry when the Govern- certainly, this is the most important ment of India decided to improve re- problem that will have to be solved. lations with China—I am entirely for But, how and in what manner is the improving th e relations between most important question. According India and China. Bilateral relations, b y all means, let us tr y to improve to me, the most important problem them. But the real test of improve- between China and India is to restore the position of friendship and trust ment of relations ultimately lies on that we enjoyed before 1962. The how th e y look at the world. My fear is : their basic concept of the worst thing that happened between China and India is not only the com- world is that a third world war is inevitable. They do not believe in ing of the army across the borders, but it is the shaking of the faith in detente. May be, there is a conflct of policy and ideology between the the friendship that is what has hap- U.S.S.R. and China. May be, be- pened, and that has done an irrepar- able harm to India-China relationship. cause there are conflicts of national That will have to be restored first. interest between the two countries. Unless that is done, how can you solve I do not know. It is possibly true. the border problem? But, looking to the basic problems, in recent times, we have seen good Shri Rao has made a very balanced, words used by the Chinese for the tactful, statement about the offer of non-aligned movement. But at one Chinia for solving the issue. It is time they were very critical of the quite all right as far as it goes. But, non-aligned movement... we have to look at China’s relations They wanted a third bloc, but from a fundamental point of view. I changed their attitude when they have my own doubts about the bona- found it is not possible for them to do fides of the Chinese. But I dont make that. After Dr. Henry Kissinger that an issue. Even this offer, it is made a secret visit to Peking, Chinese very interesting to see, has corne and Americans started coming to- through a journalist, and that too gether and I would say that is a when? When one of the Secretaries moment since when the world situa- of the External Affairs Ministry was tion started worsening. If I may going to be in Peking to start con- put it that way, b^th of them are sultations and discussions with them, clever partners because Americans. 355 DO- i98#*81t-JMin. JULY 8, 1880 of Ext. Affairs 3 5 * [Shri Yeswanirao ChavanJ ger will have to be kept in mind* think of using the Chinese card and They have always done that. It is Chinese think of using the American not for the first time that they wift card in their own interest. I do not do it—now. But in years to comer know ultimately who uses whom. particularly in thi^ decade-take the That is a different matter. Naturally, question of Afghanistan, for example— there is an atmosphere in the country they will try to divide the countries and I do not want to say anything in- on the basia of, Islamic and non- consistent with, that, that is, improve- Islamic countries. They will try to ment of relations between India and divide the countries on the basis o{ China is necessary because she is one small countries and,, big countries. of 0ur next door neighbours, she is India has got one problem* Unfortu- a bijg country and our relations with nately, India baa been misunderatco# her are ancient. because it is a country o t a very big, size and it is not our fault that we Sir, we have taken a very correct are a big country. But we never trie£ position from the very beginning. to behave like, a big brother. We Even, when they were non-friendly with us, we had not changed our posi- tried to understand the difficulties and problems of the negh- tion. Pandit Nehru made the assess- bouring countries though they may. be. ment of the relationship of China small, viz.,Sri Lanka, Burma, Nepel* and,* I think, basically he was right Bangladesh, Bhutan and Pakistan* but he got the shock of his life when Thtese are all countries, we never they sent their armies across the considered them srnaH countries; They border. That was the worst dis- are equally big countries foe us thou^ appointment Pandit Nehru faced gh geographically, in terms of pop- in his life. We do want to ulation and economy we may be as improve the relations but we do little stronger and we will continue to not want to take any wrong step or be stronger. There is nothing any hasty step. Any type of eupho- wrong about it. It is a ques- ria must not be allowed to envelope tion not of strength but of the attitude® us while assessing the issues invol- and philosophies that ultimately move* ved. Assess .the isstfes in the correct one to act. That is more important. perspective-and deal with the same And it is the philosophy of Pandit objectively an^ correctly. As far as Nehru, philosophy of non-alignment China is concerned, I think, X have and philosophy of Mahatma Gandhi made my point. that guides us. This non-alignment Sir, what is the policy that we have approach, really speaking was to follow ultimately. It comes back inherent in a form, before, and again to the same thing-non-align- during the says of freedom ment. We are pioneers of the non- struggle. It is a gift coming from the aligned movements andvit is a good independence movement. Has it grown thing that we have made very valua- out of nothing? No. It has grown out ble contributions in the course of the of a very long history of freedom last 25 to 30 years in the development struggle. When the Cold War was in of that movement . But I would like its intense fcrm this present formula to warn the government that in days was worked out. So, we have to ul- to come there are going to be very timately come to this and try to work- heavy pressures on the non-aligned creatively. It is not enough to talk in movement and there would he efforts terms of catchy phrases about non- to disunite this movement. There alignment and things like that. It is would be efforts to wean away people now not a question of formulating tha on some theoretical grounds here :iid theory of non-alignment, but, applying there and say that this is what is to it to a given situation. And that is done, this is what will have to be what is more important. Application of rejected and accepted. Some theoreti- theory of non-alignment in the com- cal points may be raised and that dan- ing days, in the coming d«acade, is 557 D.Q. W8-81—Mill. ASAOHA 17, 1902 (SAKA) of E$t Affairs 358 going to be more important. And about Indian ocean as a peace zone therefore, $ would like to say, it is with some of the western diplomats goip# to be a ohallenge to the policy they feel this is from my experience makers and diplomats of India. Irjdia I have learnt we are uttering it as a should be aware of this situation, that mantram. It is not being taken very th$re will be measures on the nou- seriously. That is main difficulty attgnmwt wvepient, to divide us and about it. They feei that India's Fore- io on, and we will have to work creati- ign Minister, when he talks about India vely to see tfcat we do not get our- as a peace aone, hae to put up tttts selves divided, but, at the tame timo, point of view as a routfeg thing. B ig we should npt lose our initiative in this powers don’t go by advgpes. Having a P'*rUcui*z‘ field. Aw arding to |ne, the base in Diego Garcia is one of UKi maul strength h e b m d nan-*li$nm#vt wottt sins that USA has committed as is self-reliaiKMi. far as our part of the * o*!d Is cence*- aod. This win few* to he challeng'd. Yesterday, I think Shri Chandrajit I. toink Mr* Qhandrajit Yadav said Yadav made that point, that this man- about the aed to give an ultimatum. I tram of non-alignment by itself is net ctyiVt know how you can give ultima- going to help unless you build your tum. I don't kaow how you can 4a & non-alignment on a strong se£f-reUa$t You will have t o work through Intemar economy. Non-alignment part of the tionai diplomacy, through the fegortt* foreign policy is also a ooJcy of mentality q* W , You should WQatfc self reliance. Ifor that matter ultimately out dynamic uaty among the ttttor# you cannot divorce foreign ooMcy countries, o< the Indian ocean. Thgl from internal policies. We wifi have alone wift fcety. to tnrild India on a more equitable basis, on a more strong basis. Now a- In this matter, I would like to *ayr days w© heard less from the Govern- though it is not Bxtemal ment about socialism. I hope they Affairs problem, that the problem re* have not forgotten about it. We .have quires some projection in the Defence made amendment of the Constitution policy also. We stiH continue to allow and we have accepted it as one of our our Navy to play a junior oarlnerfs objectives. role in our Defence forces, ft is a long term thing because from my experi- SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: (Basir- ence of the Defence Ministry, I can hat): The less we hear the better, that say that we can build our army with- also has become a mantram. in 3 or 4 years, we can build our SHRI YESIIWANTRAO CHAVAN : air-force within half a decade, but Even as a mantram that way at least we cannot build our Navy within we should hear from responsible peo- this period unless you consen- ple, it will be much better if we hear trate on it for a decade or so. more and more of it. j am not sc pes- It takes a longer tim© to do that, That simistic as Mr. Indrajit Gupta is. 1 is why in the last 15 or 16 years, we have had some experience of this have done a lot. My argument is that party’s Government functioning We are not going to meet the challenge of Diego Garcia with our Navy. But Now I come to the question of Indian ocean as a zone of peace. This has whei>a a danger is growing in the sea, at least we should be able to guard become another mantram. I quite agree our coast and defend our coast, parti- that we do want Indian ocean to be a cularly in the context of the changed peaceful zone. I am not going to situation. Therefore, I am just making compromise on this or trying to with- a mention. I think if you can pass it » draw from it. The demand will have on to the persons concerned or the to be much more organised and its authority concerned, they can act content will have to be a little more accordingly. aggressive. Unless it is more aggres- sive nothing is going tb happen. But Now, the main line of argument that I can tell you, that when we talk I was making is that the world situa- 359 D.G. 1980-81—Min. JULY 8, 1980 of Ext. Affairs 360 [Shri Yeshvantrao Chavan] gned world. So you will have to be tion is not easy today but it is a chan- more careful. How you do that, you ged situation, extremely grave and in will have to ir-lan and for that matter this grave situation, if you have to I will have to make additional sugges- carry on the foreign policy of India, tion. Better look to the Policy Planning you will have to be very alert. You Cell in the Ministry. That is more im- Will have to be very conscious of portant. Whether it is diplomatic side your fundamental policies, you will or area-wise side, it is quite el) right. have to be more creative in your ap- It is working normally quite £ood. But proaches. If ^ou do that, it will be a I think what we have neglected so far good thing. I want to make 3 or 4 soe- is the policy planning, the intellectual cific suggestions and after having done input in framing out the options for that, I will conclude. the Foreign Minister. Ihe Foreign Minister should have half a dozen The network of the bilateral re- options and he should be able to lations both in the political and econo- choose one of them; he should be able mic field is more important for India. to anticipate things. And naturally we are doing our work even today also. But this network will have to be built up more properly. 16 hrs. Yesterday, Mr. Yadav made a sug- gestion about the Helesinki type con- Mr. Yadav, in your absence, I had ference, j 3m not ambitious to think made a suggestion about taking initia- in terms of Helesinki conference, I tive for calling a conference not of the would say, if 1 am permitted ,that it Helesinki type, but for developing is unrealistic because the Helsinki collective self-reliance, j just made a type conference is quite different pro- comment on that; 1 thought I would position. But 1 certainly would like the repeat it for your information. Government to take initiative in call- ing a conference to develop some sort of collective self-reliance among the Sir, I was just talking about the non-aligned countries. This is a new policy planning cell of the Ministry form of non-aligned movement. It is of External Affairs which is very much inot enough to have some sort of un- neglected. You should carefully con- derstanding of non-aligned principles sider how it could be done. I know it in the political field, but there will is not very easily done, merely re- have to be a growing economic co- cruiting so-called intellectuals and operation for strengthening this self- asking them to sit in the Ministry of reliance of all the non-aligned coun- External Affairs does not mean any- tries. This is the first priority in the thing. Foreign Policy planning will non-aligned world today and in order have to be carefully planned and con- to achieve that, 1 would suggest if sidered. 1 would suggest that you go at all you are considering or talk- deeply into this matter and then carry ing of any conference or taking any on. initiative, you had better start, to ^tart with, an Asian non-aligned conference excepting a few countries like China, SHRI R. L. BHATIA (Amritsar): Japan, South Korea and one or two Mr. Chairman, Sir, Shri Chakraborty other countries. Most of the other said in his speech some time back Asian countries are non-aligned coun- that the Government of Kampuchea tries. This is one of the advantages as was recognised by India at a belated far as we are concerned. Therefore, we stage. When so far we had not re- can certainly show some creative state- cognised Kampuchea, they were smanship in doing this thing. 1 would clamouring for its recognition. Now like to make one more suggestion. that we have done it, they say that it was done at a belated stage. Sir, I said already that there will be a Kampuchea has been recognised at a pressure on the unity of the ncn-ali- proper time because had we recog- D.G. 1080-81—Min. ASADHA 17, 1902 (SAKA) of Ext. Affairs 362 nised it at an earlier stage, it would all—by friends and also those peoole have harmed Kampuchea and no bene- who have not been agreeing with us fit would have been derived out of it. in the matter of foreign policy. They I congratulate the Minister for recog- are also satisfied with our role. So, nising the Government o f Heng I, am glad to say that our new Gov- Samrin at a proper time, ernment has played its part in a man- ner which is befitting our nation, I have to make another point. Our which is according to our policy of respectable leader, Shri Chavan and non-alignment; and it has raised our Mr. Chairman, you yourself in your position roof-high in the world. speech practically endorsed the policy of thijg Government. But somehow Coming to Pakistan, that country is or the other, there is some kind of facing a serious situation, internally complex on those who sit on the other as well as externally. Pakistan is in side. They want to deviate and say shambles at present economically, and some thing to show that they have is facing the Russian forces at its bor- some kind of originality in them. ders. And the Pakistanis are feeling very uneasy. Sir, it was said that Xndia has given up the Nehru line or given an impres- According to me, Pakistanis have 3 sion that India is dilly-dallying and options before them. Before I say India is losing its position because we anything about their options, I would are not following the Nehru line. That like to suggest to our Foreign Minis- is wrong, About Afghanistan crises We ter that we should help Pakistan, we •aid that we do not want the forces of should give them a feeling of friend- any country in Afghanistan. WM it ship at this juncture when they are not a bold statement that we made? feeling so weak and miserable, But there were certain developments which compelled the USSR to send Their options are: firstly if they’ their forces. *That was a bold state- develop relations with USA, they will ment. We are following the same have many problems before them. The policy which we had since 1947 and people of Pakistan would not like it it is being carried out. It is, of course, because, in the year 1971 when Pakis- a different matter that some of our tan was engaged in the Bangladesh friends who were sitting on this side crisis, USA did not come to its help, are now sitting on the other side. although Pakistan was a part of the SEATO. Secondly, Pakistan’s endea- Sir, the year 1979-80 has witnessed vour to develop a nuclear device has major changes inside the country and always been strongly opposed by outside. Inside the country there was USA.,So, in the eyes of the peo- a change of Government and outside ple of Pakistan, USA has lost credibi- the country what we find is that the lity. So far as the Government of role of the major powers has shifted. Pakistan is concerned they are afraid Formerly, they had been following the of USSR, because the latter’s forces policy of detente,, now they have are in Afghanistan. If Pakistan does shifted to confrontation. Xt is a very anything, or develops close relations serious situation, not only for t$hri R. L. Bhatia] doing this, we have to keep in mind the Relationship between China and aaot tolerate the development of their Pakistan. The Chinese have always relationship with USSR. The rulers of been arming Pakistan. Xn spite of Pakistan know very well the policy of our protest, the Pakistanis were being destabilization which can be in store armed by Chinese, because we don’t for them, should they go towards have g*>od relations with them, and USSR. China has been arming Pakistan to such an extent, for creating tension. Then there is the third option be- Has China changed its attitude? fore Pakistani and that option is to develop relations with India. It is China has also been supporting self* here that I would like to emphasize determination for Kashmir. Have they that Indian Government should play changed that policy? You have to Us part. I am very happy that sens- examine that. Similarly, what is the ing the situation, the new Government urgency in the Chinese statement of India took certain initiatives; and that we see—followed up by the our Secretary Mr. Sathe was sent to second statement? Trade with Tibet Islamabad. Later, Sardar Swaran has also been offered. Sing ifr was sent as the personal envoy of the Prime Minister. Although we For 18 years they have been silent, don’t have the results of those talks— because you never rgaVe tis an oppor- and all those 18 years many friendly tunity of having a discussion in Parlia- countries were trying to bring about ment, and knowing their details—all a settlement between us, but nothing came out except the reaction, on the the information that we have through the foreign Press indicates that the advice of friends, that since India meeting of the President of Pakistan withdrew the Ambassador first—it was With our Prime Minister at Salisbury suggested to us—if India would send was very cardial—which improved back its Ambassador, normalcy will our relations. I am sure that if this come .about, and talks will start. But path is pursued, we will have better what do we see? It appears that fx- relations with Pakistan. And I may cept that, nothing came out. Now tell you that a stable Pakistan will be suddenly, the Chinese want to come a great asset to us, and a weak Pakis- near to us. What is the reason? You tan will never be an asset to us. must examine this in detail, because this is very important. Coming to China, it is a good augury Again, has China changed its basic that when the new Government as- policy of the inevitability of war, and sumed power in India a proposal has is there a change of outlook in the come to us. After having a frozen Chinese? Are they looking at the ^relationship with the Chinese Govern- world the same wa^v as we do? We ment for sUch a long time this new have seen that they were supporting development has taken place. We the anti-liberation forces in Mozambi- welcome this development, but I que, Angola and South Africa, as also would like the Foreign Minister to be in the Middle ®ast. PLQ are oyr Wtneful’in examining this offer, and friends, to whom we have given re- «ll the issues concerned, because at cognition. What is their attitude to- present it is not only the boundary wards PLO? Similarly, what is their question which is there. Much water attitude towards other countries in hsts flown through the bridges. South-East Asia? There has been a good deal of change in the world situation. So, when we We also have t0 see what they are examine this question Of relationship doing in the countries Which are at With China, Wp Will have to see, very *ftie fcerif>h#ry of India i.e. Bhutan, iffrotfefly, the picture alf around. Whjle Pakistan, Nepal Bunm $nd Bao&gia- 365 D.G.1IB0-81—vMbi. ASADHA 10, 1002 (SAKA) of Ext. Affairs 366 «desh. Are they not encouraging anti- any discussion with them, the interes- Indian elements there? They have of India with regard to this region always been doing it. Is there any cannot be ignored. This should be -change in their attitude? It will have thought of. Just at this juncture, wnen to be examined. there is an offer and we a /e consi- dering it and we are considering this Apart from this, China has been problem, all of a sudden, China re- supplying arms always to our north- cognises CPI(M) of India, it has some eastern region. They have been sub- relevance with this talk at least. You plying arms t0 the guerillas there, cannot ignore this, this is a meaning- training them in their country and ful attitude of China which they have pending them back. This is going on raised here. So, kin d ly take care of for many years. Mr. Vajpayee went this aspect also. (Interruptions) t0 China and he also raised that issue, w h y should they give credibility to but they tried to divert his attention you at this stage? They could .^o it from that problem, and nothing came earlier. out of it. We have to see what is their attitude to the merger of Sikkim SHRI SAMAR MUKHERJEE (How- with us. What is their relation to rah): China has mentioned so many Bhutan, and what is their attitude to- changes. They have said that Kashmir wards countries with which we have question should be settled between ,good relations? India and Pakistan. Then they have One other important development said about rehabilitation of their former has taken place, Which We cannot Chairman Liu Shao Chi and so on. ignore. Afod that is the Sino—U.S. cooperation In this region. These two SHRI R. L. BHATIA: What I am countries have come together in spite requesting my Foreign Minister is (hat of their different way of thinking, in he m ust find out whether there is iea lly sp ite of the fact that they are having a change in their heart. Now it has a different philosophy, there is no been mentioned that there is bilateral commonness^ in them except a com- question between India and that count- mon enemy. T h ey have come nearer ry. We welcome it, if that is so. But to each other and that is why this let us see whether there is a change of combination is a great danger to this heart or they are simply saying it. It region. Therefore, since they have the will be seen when our Foreign Minister -cooperation, they are in agreement will have a talk with them. I wanted with that, is it part of their global to bring this to his kind notice. Taking strategy that they want to talk to us into consideration what all I have or really China has changed, their said. I consider it a soider's web. Do mental attitude has changed or really not fall into it till you have taken into their heart has changed that they consideration all the points which have want to talk to us? This is a very been raised bv me and mv friends in important factor which you may not this House. This is very important. ignore. Secondly, this friendship should not There is another factor which we be achieved at the cost of other friends cannot ignore and that is the respec- with whom We have got mature rela- tive xole of both the countries in this tionship; we have got a stable relation- region. China wants to dominate this ship with our friend* indeed at all region, Asia, South East Asia and they our difficult times, whether it is USSR, have their interest: So have we, we maybe Pakistan or any other country. are also a big country, We also want I do not say only one country, but this to have our interest. What will be friendship should not be at the cost of the role of the respective two coun- other friends. tries in thig region is a matter which requires a discussion and before you Now 1 will say somethin* about our enter into any parleys with them or role as a non-alig»ed country. We are 367 D.G. 19JJ0-81—Min. JULY 8, 1980 of Ext. Affairs 368 [Shri R. L. Bhatia] loped, they said: something has to be a leader, this country Is y leader of the done, otherwise we will be completely non-aligned world. It has been rightly isolated from that area. That is why said by Mr. Chavan and other friends they were opposing this policy. r When that there is a great'constraint on ihis we took it up, it was a challenge to our' non-aligned movement and we have government. Our Foreign Minister was the capacity to make this movement just then appointed, as Foreign Minis- more strong^ viable and workable, and ter he had to take up that challenge. in this direction, your effort It was really confusion. Almost all should be diverted, because in this parties except CPM and CPI were in cold w§r which has started and confusion. That policy was condemned the global war which may start by Lokdal and almost all other parties. tomorrow, I da) not know how But later on they realised that that was much part we can play. One thing is the correct policy and that is w h y they very certain that n9n->aligned area appreciate it. Most of the other count* which is an area of peace, if we ries also appreciated it. I am happy. I improved that area, if we increase congratulate our Foreign Minister and that area, that means we bring peace our Government for this pragmatic aneW to this region and to the world. correct policy. J SHRI M. SATYANARAYAN RAO Now I will come to non alignment. (Karimnagar): Mr. Chairman, x am The whole nation is grateful" to our verv happy that this House is unanim- great Panditji but for whom we would ous in accepting our foreign policy. 1 not have adopted this policy. Chavanji think this is the only policy where also correctly said about this policy. there seems to be no difference of opi- Even before Independence it was for- nion. I still remember that when mulated. During freedom struggle our party came into power in when this Question of foreign relation- 1980. I thought there would be ship was discussed then Nehru was the differences of opinions regarding person who could imagine at that time Afghanistan. In the beginning that that after achievement of independance policy was misunderstood not only what should be our policy with regard by our political parties in India to this. There was no other way except but also many countries in the world non-alignment; that was the o n ly policy particularly US and other countries. which would solve problems in the Later on, when they realised that world. After Independence, just no\^" there was no other alt amative to a Chavanji said there was a decade of ^political settlement to this problem, detente and there was the decade of they appreciated. When they saw that confrontation. During Nehru’s time, by military power the problem cannot after Independence I for two or three be solved th e y began to appreciate/ years confrontation was there and we Russia had to send their army. As you were also thinking that there was bound said correctly yesterday, there was a to be a third world war. That was th- situation which invited them to send situation prevailing at that time. John their army. That is a fact which can- Foster Dulles was there, he was a very not be denied by anybody. There are hopeless man and he was creating a ll circumstances. As Chavanji said we sorts of problems. Nehru was the per- also sent our army t0 Bangla Desh when son who gave leadership not ony to we had to liberate that country. Cir- non-alignment fmTto^fie world. Wher- "j cumstances will be there. The United ever there was a problem in the world, States was worried very much about they used to come to him, whether from Iran when something happened in Iran America of from Russia or an y other before that. The United States was country. They used to come to him for agitated, it was worried about Iran. guidance and advice and he used to Suddenly when Afghan situation deve- give then advice and guidance. Because 369 D &- 1930-81—Min. ASADHA 17, 1902 (SAKA) of Ext. Affairs 37a of his leadership and pragmatism he one. in 1980, there seemed to be a succeeded in averting^ the world war. grave situation in the world, whether That is why we are grateful to that We see in South East Asia, Cambodia, great leader. During the pre-indepen- Thailand, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran dence days, I do not know whether the or Iraq. Iran and Iraq are fighting. United States supported us, they used There is a war between them, Like to give lip sympathy to us but after wise there has been war between independence they thought that our Iraq and Iran as also in Africa. country would be on their side. But when Panditji formulated non alignment policy, they were very much disappoint- I find one thing—that these big. ed. They became enemies and they countries, the so-caUec^ super powers said: w© should teach them a lesson are clever enough. USA and USSR, I because this country is behaving like must say that they have chosen Asia an independent country without any and Africa for settling their issues. economic development. That is why They are not fighting in their region. they were opposing everything we did, They are not fighting in Europe. They they were encouraging neighbours are fighting in Asia or Africa. particularly Pakistan and they were supplying arms and ammunitions. In We are only concerned with this— those days Nehru was the person who whether it is Pakistan, whether it is used to take up the cause of China, Afghanistan, Indian Ocean, or Diego whether it was a question of admission Garcia, the military base has been to United Nations or any other matter, established by America. I am very he was championing the cause of China. happy that this cause is being taken At that time America used to say: you up by the Organisation of African aze supporting China, the greatest ene- my of the world, not only a communist Union. Yesterday, we read in the country. That was the situation. newspaper that th e y have demanded Even then this government said: we that it should be restored to Mauri- are supporting them, whether they are tius—this Mauritius and not that on friends or n°t, that is immaterial, it is which the British were ruling when on principle. Even after the 1962 they gave it to USA for some purpose, border trouble, the United States and later on it was used as a military thought that in the changed situation base by America. Now Mauritius is our country would have to change the demanding that it should be restored non-alignment policy and it would have to their country. That has also been to depend not only upon America but supported by African countries. I am also on the western countries., In very happy to see the news that spite of that crisis, he did not think France also has come out in support it proper. He said, principle is prin- of it that the Indian Ocean must be ciple. People will face the situation, a zone of peace. We should avail of come what may. We will not change this opportunity. It is a good thing our fundamental policy. He stood hy that in Western Europe, country like that. France is also supporting it and in this respect I would like our Foreign That is the current policy. It has Minister to taRe an initiative. This stood in) good stead so far as our opportunity is a very good opportu- country is concerned. I am very happy nity and that he should avail of it. that that policy has not only been adopted by India but by the majority of the countries in this world. Be- I will deal with our neighbours. cause of this policy the Third World First of all I will take Pakistan. Pak- War has been averted. istan is very near to us. It was a part and parcel of India in those days. Of Chavanji has said correctly that the course, because of unfortunate deve- decade has not been a comfortable lopments, partition took place. After 3 7 ^ D.G. I03C-C1—Afin. JULY 8, 1980 of Kvt. Adairs 372 [Shri M. Satyanarayan Rao] So far as Afghanistan is concern- that they were thinking that that ed, we have adopted a very correct partition was not a permanent thing. policy and that is appreciated by everybody. I am happy that during India one day would attack them &nd invade them. Tnat was the fear. our Foreign Minister’s visit to USSR, There must be some genuine fear in he impressed upon them to withdraw the army or some withdrawal shotfld the beginning after the partition. But Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru and Indiraji be there. I am happy that as soon as he can^ back home, they decided have been saying, there is no question to withdraw some forces. I hope, of attack. That was told to them. It Russia will withdraw its forces when was told thqt we recognise them as a sovereign independent country. We they are no longer required there. want to help them economically and politically and in every manner. That I had an opportunity to visit Nepal is why inspite of so many develop- four or five years back along Wtth ments in that county we are not some of my colleagues. I found that interrering. We must assure them the people of Nepal were very mufeh that we are not going to harm them. interested to have friendship with We want to see them economically our country. The leaders of Nepal independent and economically strong. were telling us that India was neg- If stability is there, stability is in lecting ua. There was lot of diffe- India. rence between India and China. They were giving lot of aid for constructing roads, industries, projects and other things. But India was spehdfong i/tery If there is no stability there, the very less. They told us: if you want to stability is in jeopardy in our country. have strong relationship with Nepal, We have been taking the situation you please impress upon your Govern- ■consistently like this. Whenever our ment to increase the economic aid to Foreign Minister goes, I do not know Nepal. Some other hon. Members also when he goes there, but whenever he mentioned about it I am happy that goes there he must emphasise this we have got joint irrigation projects point that there is no threat from our with Nepal. We are constructing roads side. Please tell them that we are also in future also, we should extend your friends and brothers. When Pak- aid for more projects so that we will istan realised that India had no bad have good relationship with Nepal. intentions, since then, unfortunately, China and USA are not quiet. They Bhutan is a small country and it is again started supplying arms to Pak- depending upon us We slhould ^ive istan. From tiie perusal of their more economic aid to Bhutan also. Budget it will be seen that this year 45 per cent of their Budget w as being spent on Defence. We are spending We are having very good relation- 17 per cent of our Budget on defence ship with Srilanka. There was a time although ours is a vast country and we when we were only thinking of big are facing threat not only from Pak- powers like Western Europe, USSR, istan but China also. Pakistan is USA, and China. At that time, nobody spending 45 per cent of its Budget on thought of improving relations with defence apart from the aid which is our neighbours. Later on we realised befrig given by the USA, China and that unless we had good relationship other countries. This is a very very with our own neighbours it would not serious situation. Something has to be be possible for us to face the situation, done -about it We should take up this if it arises. That is why, we are im- matter "wtth* the countries which are proving our relationship with our nei- ‘supplying arms to ghboring countries. 373 DJCx. i $80*4*1-—Jtftn. ASADHA 17, 1902 (SAKA) of Ext. Affairs 374 I must congratulate our Foreign Regarding South-East Asia, I am Minister that soon after he took over sorry that nobody has mentioned abut the office, he sent his officers to all tha South-East Asia, particularly the neighbouring countries to improve our ASEAN countries. lelaticns. I would impress upon him that he should also go to those coun- AN. HON. MEMBER: What about tries so that we can improve our Kampuchea? b relations further. SHRI M. SATYANARAYAN RAO: Regarding«gulf countires, PandUji We have recognised Kampuchea. Fhe was really a sagacious man in this ASEAN countries consist of Indonesia, respect. Jaosangh people were con- Singapore, Malayasia, Philipines ?nd demning that we were neglecting Israel Thailand. Unfortunately, last month and we were only making friendship our Foreign Minister was to go there with Arab countries and that !hey to attend some conference. But since were not willing to have friendship his mother was ill, suddenly he had with us. In those days, Pandit ji visu- to, go to his village. But they misunder- alised that friendship with the stood him completely. They thought Arab world would be impor- that it is on the pretext of the illness tant so far as this country is concern- of his mother that he avoided going ed. That is why, he adopted that policy. to the Conference and instead, he went Now, everybody appreciates that poli- to his village. Unfortunately that is the cy including Mr. Vajpayee though he impression that is created. So, I re- belongs to Jansangh. quest the Foreign Minister tc remove that impression if at all there is suth Mr. Morarji Desai is a great free- an impression, because some editorials dom fighter and he was with us till re- in the newspapers pointed out about cently. He used to tell the people that this stating that \ serious, misunder- he did not have any secret deal with standing is goring on. We should not anybody. In spite of that, he invited neglect ASEAN countries I had occa- Moshe Dayan and held a secret meeting sion to visit Singapore, Malayasia and with him. This has created a great other countries. At that time they w ere suspicion in the countries of the Arao telling that India is completely neglect- world. I am happy that when chere ing these countries. About 40 per cent was a question on this in the House, of the population there are from India, our Foreign Minister made it nlear particularly from South India. They that we had nothing to do with that have settled there and that is why the meeting. That we were really ^orry cultural link and all other links axe that such a thing happened 'during that there. In spite of that we are gning time. 1 would impress upon the Minis- an impression that we are neglecting ter to make it clear to the Arab coun- those countries. That impression sho- tries whenever he visits those uld be removed by the Foreign Minis- countries. We must build up ter. our relationship with the gulf coun- tries because we are exporting so many About Kampuchea, I am very happy, things to them and we are getting oil and of course the whole House was Jrom them. appreciating the Foreign Minister when he made the statement that ^e are reco- There is a war going on between gnising Kampuchea. Of course, the re- Iran, and Iraq. I ajn sorry to say :hat cognition was delayed, but whatever it the Foreign Minister should have said maybe, now It is recognised and so something on this. Perhaps, during his everybody is satisfied. Intervention, lie may say something on this. They are also our neighbouring Regarding airlifting of arms to Thai- countries. If something happens there, land, it is dear the USA is supplying it would definitely affect our country. some arms to Thailand. Some w ar "is Bo, we Should take steps ini this res- going on between TkaH&nd and Kam- pect. puchea and Vietnam. If it continues or D.G. 1930-81—Min. JULY 8, 1980 of Ext. Affairs 376 [Shri M. Satyanarayan Rao] completely isolated and then there aggravates, a very grave situation will was a threat of the Seventh Fleet. prevail in South-East Asia. In this res- America threatened that they would pect also India should take the initia- send the Seventh Fleet. In that connec- tive. It should be nipped in the bud. I tion there was a meeting of the Op- know in this respect not only the USA, position Parties with the Prime Minis- but also, China is supporting them. In ter. Mr. Indrajit Gupta was there, and spite of ideological differences between I was also there in the Opposition* the USA and China, they became fri- Then I put a question to the Prime ends. Wherever their common interests Minister: ‘Madam, the Seventh Fleet is are there, they are doing all sorts of coming. How are you going to face it? things. China is opposing Vietnam and She said: ‘Don’t worry*. What a cour- Kampuchea; it is also supplying arms ageous lady she is! The Seventh Fleet to the opposing forces and the is coming and y e t she says, ‘Don't wor- USA is also supplying arms ry.’ Later on we came to know that it to them. This situation should be rec- was because of the assurance of Russia. tified very soon and you should lake It is only because of the promised help < the initiative in this respect also. of Russia that we could save the situa- tion. They supported us on the issues About Japan, I would say that we of Goa and Kashmir, as also during have also neglected Japan. Of late we the Chinese aggression. It is the only have got good relations with Jaoan. country which has consistently sup- But in the beginning we thought that it ported us on the basis of foundament- is not important for us. But it is very al principles, though they had mis- important because it is economically understandings sofnetimes whether w* a very advanced country. Friendship were going to change our policy for- with Japan is very necessary for our wards them. So, let us not be ungrate- country. Our Petroleum Minister is ful to them. We should not equate them here and he will agree with me that for with the USA. oil drilling purposes we need some The test of U.S. friendship with machinery. I am told that we are im- India is two-fold: whether they will porting some machinery from Japan. So stop military aid to Pakistan, and whe- we must have good relations with ther they are going to supply enriched Japan because they can give some uranium for our Tarapur plant, as they economic aid to us. seem to be unwilling in spite of an * About African countries also, al- agreement Of course, on the Kashmir though we do not have any problem and other issues, th e y never supported with them, we have always supported us. We will forget that, but if they are their cause particularly in South Africa really interested in friendship with our ever since the time of Mahatma Gan- country, they will have to attend to dhi. Unfortunately, that is the only these two things. country which could not at independ- Regarding China, there is talk about ence till now. The minority regime, the improving our relations with them. racial regime, is still ruling in South Chavanji was correct in saying that Africa and it is oppressing the majori- they had sent a message through jour- ty people and we have to take initia- nalists. They want to give an impres- tive in this respect also so that the peo- sion that although they are prepared ple there are liberated. to have a settlement, it is our Govern- ment which is not prepared. We sho- Coming to the Big Powers, most of uld not fall into this trap. So, we sho- the Members have touched upon this uld'take some action. There was a time point as to whether we should equate of Hindi Chini bhai bhai, but we know Russia with America. I still remem. what happend. Nobody could anticipate ber that in 1971—I was also here at the aggression of 1962, not even a *reat that time—when was broke out regard- person like Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru, ing Bangladesh, liberation, we were although Sardar Patel had warned him D.G. 1980-81—Min. ASADHA 17, 1902 (SAKA) of Ext. Affairs 378 to be careful about China’s aggressive Council. I request the Foreign Minister designs. He believed in Panch Sheel to try for this and that he must fight peaceful eo-existance, non-interference it out. Otherwise, nobody will give it. and all that, but they slabbed us in the back, and that is the reason why Pan- Lastly, about the passport, many un- ditji 'died. He could not recover from scruplous agents are working and they- lnat shock. As a matter of fact, it is are looting and plundering the common China which killed him. Thio we can- people. I have received so many com- not forget. Not only that. They are plaints. Recently, when the hon. Minis- prepared so far as the border problem ter came to our area—we belong to the is concerned, but what about other same district-—many complaints were things? They are supporting our ene- made by the people saying, “llhese 30- mies. As I said in the beginning, Pakis- called agents are looting us.” He must tan wanted to have good relations with take some steps in this respect. Other- us, but it was China which provoked wise, these activities will go on and tne them by giving them military aid. They people will continue to be plundered never gave them economic aid. It and deceived by those unscrupulous means that their intentions towards us agents. He will have to give some as- are not good. Further, wherever there surance in this regard. has been a liberation movement, we have to see whether they supported the Once again, I thank the other hon. imperialists and colonialists or the members also who have participated countries fighting for their freedom in this debate that they were all un- along with the non-aligned countries. animous in supporting the foreign Keeping these things in view, you can policy. There is no difference of opi- have talks with them, because, after nion at least on this policy. We ' re all, China has come to stay. As Pandit- all unanimous on that. I thank you £or ji used to say, they may be our ene- the patient hearing given to me. mies, but we will have to live with them as they are our neighbours. If SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA (Basir- this Government is not willing to talk hat): Mr. Chairman, Sir, I should also and solve this problem, our people and add my voice of congratulations to the the people of China will have to settle Government for its extension of it one day. That is why I say you may diplomatic relations to the Heng Sam- have talks, but you must keep in view rin Government of Kampuchea. Of the points I have mentioned. course, we would all have been happy if it had come earlier. But, for that The membership of UNO has increas- reason, I do not propose to pick up a x ed to about 150. As the Report of the quarrel with the hen. Minister at this Ministry mentions, India along with stage. Better late than never, lt is a other countries tried for, we also oass- good thing that has been done and ed a resolution recommending, increas- further delay in the matter might have es of membership of the Security Coun- compromised our position considera- cil from 15 to 19, but the Permanent bly. Members, including Russia, did not agree. Not only that. Ours is a big coun- I would also like to congratulate the try after China on population basis. Government, perhaps, not directly, the Still we are not having a permanent Ministry of External Affairs for our membership in the Security Council. A bold decision, a decision without any great injustice is being done to our hesitation, not to participate in Presi- country. I am sorry our Government dent Carter’s boycott of the Olympic is not at all taking up this issue. Ours Games. This has also become a big In- is a democratic country. Ours is the ternational event. The countries axe biggest country next to China, not only being asked to stand up and be count- in Asia but in the whole world. We ed who are on which side. Though we are the biggest democratic country. In m a y not be one of the leading sports spite of that we are not given* a per- countries 9f the world—I hope, we will manent membership in the Security be some day—and Are have not reach- 379'. 1980*81—Min. JULY 8k 1980 » of Ext. Affairs .38 ^ [Shri ^Indrajit Gupta] Garcia is equated with the passage of ed that status yet, nevertheless, it is some Soviet vessels—Soviet naval ves- being made into a political issue. The sels, sometimes—through the Indian two neighbouring countries of ours Ocean. That, and the permanent, fixed about whom much of the discussion military base, aerial base, naval base, has taken place today, the Peoples submarine base which is being built up> Republic of China on one side and under our eyes with an expenditure of Pakistan , on the other, neither of them, billions of dollars in Diego Garcia, are is agoing , to participate in the Olympic equated, After all, the Soviet Union is Games. They have fallen in line with not only a European power but is an President Carters call for boycott I Asian power also. It extends from think* it .is a m atter of great gratifi- Europe, right into Asia. That is not it* cation___ fapft;, it is an accident of geography. So* a naval vessel, or any vessel-—car- AN,,HON. MEMBER; Full gratifica- go. vessel or a commercial vessel—of tion,. the Soyiet fleet has to travel from the SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: It is a Black ,{3ea ports to the far eastern ports matter of full gratification. I am very in Vladivostok,-How can the^ go except happy about it. In fact, no voice ap- through the Indian Ocean? It: cannot parently , was raised in this country hope {Over the Indian Ocean; the only n^, even Mr. Subramaniam Swamy’s way is throu^x the Indian Ocean. It voice, advising us not to- go to Moscow is on$ [Shri Indrajit Gupta] it will seem to you that the only and of 30th January. Between that posi- the sole factor responsible for this tion that she took at that time and the tension which has developed on our position which you are taking now, north-western border is this, presence there is a difference; there is a slide- of Soviet troops in Afghanistan. back there is a shift; and I am chang- There is no other factor. But then, ing you with that, that you are shifting what is this? Are we joining the back. You must answer that question chorus of the Americans? Or what? when you reply. When the Prime That is what the Prime Minister said. Minister spolfe in January—and that She said » ‘We must take the whole was very soon after the Soviets had situation into account. We cannot intervened in Afghanistan—she made take an one-sided view.' She also four points. I am summarising them; said, ‘We have no reason *o disbelieve I do not want to read out all these. the Soviet assurance that once the se- She made three or four points. The curity of their borders is assured, first thing, of course, was that she they will withdraw their troops from stated—and it has been stated by the Afghanistan. She said that r,he has Government over and over again— no reason "to disbelieve it. Now,( it is that we are opposed to the entry of unfortunately a Soviet border there. foreign troops into the territory of any And it is from Pakistan some years other country. We are all agreed on ago that the American spy plane, the that, although here also Members have U-2 plane with Gary Powers piloting it, pointed out that circumstances some- was shot down over the Soviet Union times arise—we ar© living in a world at the time of Mr. Khurshchev's of real politicse; we are not living in regime. They cannot forget these a vacuum—as arose once in 1971 for things. That took off from near us also, when in the interest of your Peshawar. Pakistan provided the own national security, in the interest base for the U-2 spy plane and Pakis- of defending your own national sove* tan was a Member of the CENTO reignty, it becomes necessary to take military pact and the border of the some action which the other people do Soviet Union is there. This is not the not like or may accuse you of. We border of USA. USA is thousands of were accused in 1971 of committing miles away. This is not the border of aggression. But did we accept that? China. It is the border USSR. And, Did we agree with that? therefore, maybe we can afo on argu- There was a certain set of ing whether they were justified in sending their troops or not, whether circumstances. Now, th e Prime they should have waited and whether Minister has said in January that we are opposed to the entry of they were in a hurry or not. I leave foreign forces into any other country. that question open. But the point But, she said she was dealing with is that even the Prime Minister has Afghanistan; that in this case, we can- admitted that there were other factors, not take a one-sided view, we have to that there was a background, that take into account the whole back- there were circumstances and that we ground, the circumstances, what was must see the thing in its totality. happening before the Soviet troops Nowaways I find that in the recent moved; we cannot ignore that. I do statement and the position of the gov- not find any such reference now in the ernment this kind of a balanced view reports or in the speeches made or in is not there at all. The only thing that the statement which was made by the is being mentioned is that the Soviet Minister himself on the floor of the troops are there and therefore, there House on the 7th June. If you go is the tension. What do you want, Mr. Narasimha Rao? Tell me honestly. 17 hits. Would you like the Soviet troops just through all these documents and all to pull out tomorrow? Will you gua- the statements of the government now, rantee that Afghanistan will survive? D-G. lOW-ai—Min. ASADHA 17, 1902 (SAKA) of Ext. Affairs 386 Will you guarantee that the Americans military uniform. It can also be and the Pakistanis will not take over carried out in a different guise. Afghanistan? Is it such a simple thing now? Do you admit or do you If it is your stand point —No, the deny that armed insurgents are there, Soviet troops are there and there *s being trained across the borders and no other complication of armed insur- being sent into Afghanistan, to kill cat- gents coming there across the Pakis- tle and bum the schools, to chop oiJ the tan border, there is no such thing and hands of teachers in the new schools it is only a Soviet propaganda, then wiiick have been opened for please say so. And if you think that teaching unfortunately women also, that is not so^ that is whaP is also which is not liked very much there there, then you must say so. But vou that women should be given educa- do not say a single word anywhere. tion? They were never eduucated, Not a single word is mentioned about but, nowadays those people who used any factor except the oresence of to auction women in the market place Soviet troops. If you want to play the and where women were cut up for role of an honest broker and if we are sale—those things have been done to be respected as a major non-aligned away w'\th by the Saur Resolution. country which position certainly, we Some people do not like it. It is were enjoying and we were very close nothing strange. The bi* jagirdars to the Soviet Union which you have whoso lands have been tiken and very many times pointed out—If you distributed among the landless people want to play the role of an honest used to treat their women as chattel. broker in trying to find a solution to We are shouting here everday about this imbroglio, a solution which we the state of women in our country certainly want very much, then some- and quite correctly. But in Afghanis- how try to defuse the tension then tan, prior to the Saur Resolution you have to earn your credibility with women were sold fri the market place, both sides to the dispute. Otherwise put up for sale like cattle. That thing you won't be accepted as an honest has been done away with. A whole borker. Our credibility is very high network of schools has been opened in with the Soviet Union no doubt, des- the countryside and the Mullahs and pite differences sometimes as you the Maulvis are saying that these have said in your statement on the schools should be burnt anr] destroy- 7th of June, we may have differences ed. here and there, We may have a diffe- rent way of looking at things. It never comes in the way of mutual friendship and trust. But about the Sir, these are not things that the other side? government d0 not know. Have we not got our people there? Our Em- The dispute involves two sides, and bassy is there. Do we not remember to play the role of an honest broker, that in 1965 when aggression started you must earn the credibility of both across the Kashmir border, it was not sides. But this is not the way of do- the Pakistani army which first crossed ing that. We know it very well that the border? For weeks and weeks Ihere this is a complicated situation in were armed tribesmen dressed not in which so many factors are operating. the military uniform but Iresscd in We should mention all these things mufti, tribesmen who infiltrated and and not take a one-sided view. That who were sent to infiltrate across the is all that j want to say on this issue. border and who came jight into Kash- mir when we woke up and realise Then, gir, two' developments have what was happening. Then there was taken place recently. Why is the a large-scale attack by the Pakistani Government of India sayinsf nothing army. So, aggression is not commit- about it? One is: thev Afghan Gov- ted necessarily always by solider in ernment has ma [Shri Indiraj it Gupta] We want to be more forthright and out spoken. Surely, the flow of arms That peace proposal has not been from U.S.A. or from Pakistan or from accepted so far either by Pakistan China has some bearing 0n the Afghan President Shri Zia-ul-Haq or by Iran. issue. It is as a result of the Aghan But they have made the proposal. crisis. That has been made an excuse Does the Government o£ India have for turning Pakistan into a big arsenal any reaction to that? Do they think of modern arms. Some have.-express- thac this is a good or bad proposal or a ed here that these arms will not be bogus proposals? • They should say used against us. I ask; if they will something at>out it. The second deve- not be used against us, then against lopment which has taken place is what whom they will be used. Surely Pakis- is mentioned just now? that is that tan is not going to fight the Soviet some partial withdrawal of iorces has Union with the arms. It is meant for taken place. Now the whole world is some other purpose. If they do it trying to interpret it—some peoule are then nothing is going to be left of shouting everyday this 1* nothing. Pakistan. So, these things a**e surely This is a lake withdrawal; this is just inter-connected. trying to throw dust in people's eyes. They are pulling out some tvoops and Therefore, about China, 1 would then they are putting in more troops. like to say that only a lunatic or a So^ we are not going to be hoodwink- mad an has a doubt about the desir- ed? Is that the view of the Govern- ability oi re-establishing of normal ment of India? Then please say so. relations between India and Pakistan If you think that it is a bogus with- and between India and. China. About drawal, please say so. Even though it the desirability of this there could be is a very limited and partial withdra- n0 two opinions on the subject. wal of some hundred tanks and one Normalisation of relations as neigh- division do you think that it is a posi- bouring States between us and Pakis- tive thing? At least say so. But, tan and us andii China is a must. It you do not say so. Not a sing e word is a normal thing to try for normali- you have said about it anywhere. sation. I am not so keen on harping You see the book which deals with at on the fact that China attacked us great length the joint communique or once. Pakistan has attacked us three a joint declaration which was signed times. But because Pakistan attack- by the Prime Minister, Smt. IncLra ed us three times we do not say that Gandhi and President, Mr. Valery we are not going to talk mission. Nobody knew about it. It what I am saying. Don’t be gullible was kept a well-guarded secret and We should talk to them. We should that also through the agency of Pakis- certainly try to restore normal State- tan. He went from Pakistan as every- to-State relations. We should en- body now knows. It was Pakistan courage more trade, more commerce, which helped him to reach China cultural relations but please remem- because be had to go secretly ber that there is a move and a motive keeping his visit confidential. From behind all this and the lobby in this that date onwards the biggest thing country which w as th e most fanatical which has taken place in international anti-Chinese lobby at that time in politics is the collusion betw een 1962, which was foaming at*the mouth Chinese People’s Republic and the at the sound of China are the very United States of America. people who are now the strongest advocates of friendship with China. This is the new factor in the situa- W hy? It is not because of China. I,t tion. It is no longer so new either. is because °* United States of A m erica The collusion between China and w hich has come into the picture. America is the main thing which has It is the U.SA. which is now fully to be taken into account when we are in collusion with China. And there- opening up new avenues of talks and fore a trap is being laid. They want discussions with them. Certainly we to take us, or bring us, into this should talk and discuss. Hua-ng Hua global kind of political and strategic is coming here to Delhi for talks. We moves which they are making. No should certainly have talks. But we doubt we will earn China’s displea- cannot miss out this background. sure, Sir, by the recognition which There is a new global strategy being you have extended t'0 the Heng Sam- worked out in which America and rin Government. But I am glad you China who were once deadly enemies had the courage to do that. Yes, I of each other are now partners. Ame- congratulate you for that. I don’t rican Generals talk about China as mind admitting to you that I was being NATO of the East—4he ad hoc beginning to have apprehensions that fifteenth member of NATO. The in your anxiety to make up with Chinese Government which goes on China you might ditch poor old Hen saying that thev want NATO in Samrin for some time. That you did Western Europe to be strengthened not do so, I suppose, is the result also further and have welcomed 1hat it of the latest reports and assessment should be strengthened and built up which you got from your Foreign against the Soviet Union:—a China Secretary When he returned from his which maintains full relations even trip abroad re c e n tly he must have with the racist regime of South giv^n you some report, some assess- Africa, which sends help and support ment, of his prolonged talks in Peking to Pinochet dictatorship in Chile, and all that. And therefore on that which deals with the Israelis, which basis you took a decision, verv cor- not only built that Karakoram road rect decision, very wise decision,—I across our territory but repeatedly am glad. whenever opportunity permits assures Pakistan that it will stand four snuares S'o, I would only say that, whatever behind Pakistan over the Kashmir any country may do, whatever its issue against India, that China which policy mny be, particularly if they launched aggression against Vietnam, are our neighbours, we must try to that China, as reports have it, is have normal relations with them. cer+ainly—from behind the scenes— But, if it is a question of restoring helping to arm and train some in- the oM friendship, we will have to surgents on our North Eastern fron- think ten times because the whole ba- tiers. You have got the whole list. lance of Power has changed, the whtrte So, please don’t be gullible. That is partnership whifh has emerged bet- D.G. 1980-51—Min. JULY 8, 1980 of Ext Affairs 392 [Shri Indiraj it Gupta] But, by repeatedly alleging in ween China and USA is something writing that his Finance Minister was entirely new, which was not there 10 a ‘Russian agent*, Mr. Charan Singh years ago, much less 15 years ago, made India a laughing-stock of the much less 20 years ago. This is a new world. His Lieutenant Mr. Raj Narain, thing. And as somebody has jaid it the incarnation of buffoonery was here, the sole purpose of it is to making pronouncements on delicate isolate the Soviet Union, because they issues like Tibet a-nd India-China regard the Soviet Union as their main Borders, with such a non-chalance enemy, and we regard the Soviet hard to find. Mr. Charan Singh’s Fin- Union as rone of our main friends. ance Minister, Mr. S. N Mishra’s Everybody here admits it. Even Mr. performance at the Commonwealth Vajpayee and Mr. Advani, when they Meet in Lusaka last year, when he were in power, when they visited proposed our Foreign Secretary’s can- Moscow the first time, made public didature, against the consensus of the statements saying that whenever we whole Commonwealth, without even have been in crisis in India, whenever caring for our prestige, left India we have been in difficuJty, whenever utterly humiliated. Nor could the we have been facing any attacks, you Janata Government headed by Mr. are the only people who have stood Morarji Desai and his Foreign Minis- consistently with us—the Soviet ter, Mr. Vajpayee, open a creditable Union. They have made such state- account in the international affairs In ments also. What other statement 1978, in the Consultative Committee could they make? attached to the External Affairs Minis- try, Mr. Vajpayee, was taken to task by his own partymen for the non- Now I conclude. Therefore, Sir, on performance of his office. Sir, in Feb- the whole, of course, we hope you ruary, 1979 before embarking upon will stick consistently to this oolicy the ro-c^\'3 exploratory m.ssion to of peace and non-alignment and anti- C i ’a M’\ Vajpayee h'id identified colonialism, anti-imperialism, help h;^ -if irfor- an rminf'nt journalist, to all countries who are still a- c-e fi 'bo forces of peace and fighting for their independence boasted that the forces of peace are like South Africa and other strong enough to defeat the machina- places. But at least try to be a little tion of those who want war. When more forthright and what shall I say— Mr Vaipavep entered China, China consistent in your stand and that will nt*a^ked Vietnam under Mr Vajpa- help to restore India’s image In 1he v'-'p’s very nose stripping him of all counsels of the world to a position bis pretentions of a great diplomat. which we once occupied. Mr. Vajpayee who rushed to China against the advice of some of his SHRI, AJITSINH DABHI (Kaira): officers in the Foreign Office by his Sir, if we look to our country’s foreign partymen and by the Russian Embassy affairs in retrospect, barring a few and by the Press, that the time had periods during which there was a not ripened for a diplomatic tour of coalition government headed by Mr. China, had returned crest-fallen from Charan Singh, and 2 l|2 years during his pilgrimage to Pekin?. This also which the Janata P a r ty Government, revealed one thing at that time that headed b y Mr. Morarji Desai was during the Janata regime, the Exter- there, India, during the last 30 years nal Affairs Ministry was run from the first undpr the Primo Ministership of ba^k-seat bv RSS brand, Mr Subra- Pandit Jawaharlal N eh ru a n d then mfiniim Swamy, who was a self- under the Primp Ministership of p^nointed Amba^sa^or tn China and Shrimufi Indira Gandhi, has always who renorted that China had taken n olaved a significant role in interna- favourable stance and also accused tional f flairs with dignity. some of our officials in External 393 1900-81—Min. ASADHA 17, 1902 (SAKA) of Ext. Affairs Affairs Ministry of having sabotaged ernment made India tilt towards Indo-China de tente in favour of America. The concept of non-align- Soviet Russia. The Janata Gov- ment was originally mooted by Pandit ernment adopted a policy that Jawahanal Nehru and was sponsored, India will wot resort to nuclear ex- supported and sustained by him jointly plosion for harmful purpose. The with President Nasser of Egypt and declaration of such a national policy President Tito of Yugoslavia. These by a sovereign country like ours ought people never thought that the nor- to have been made from New Delhi, alignment could be fake. The Janata the capital of our country. Instead, Government’s foreign policy was the Janata Government’s Prime Minis- neither ‘non-aligned’ nor ‘genuine’. If ter, Mr. Morarji Desai feared that we think of non-alignment, non-align- India might not get the much-needed ment is net a negative name for a nega- enriched uranium and other economic tive idea; it is not simply a ne nralit/. aid, went to Washington and made Non-alignment has come to connote a the declaration of this national policy definite independent thought and ac- from Washington which is a capital tion. For example, India-had opposed of a foreign country. This was nothing the colonialism and neo-colonialism in less than giving up the sovereignty of Africa and Asia. India had supported our nation in favour of another coun- the cause of Asian and African coun- try, which, for the last 30 years, has tries which were reeling under the been doing its worst to make India foreign rule and which were trying to fall in line with its global supremacy. win their freedom. India also espoused There could be nothing more shameful the Communist China’s entry in the for our country than this act of dec- United Nations despite the fact lhat laration of our country’s national China had waged a war against India. policy in a foreign capital. Russia is our great friend and they proved to be a friend in need during the Bangladesh war, yet our Prime The Janata Government which was Minister, Shrimati Indira Gandhi did conducting its foreign affairs with not endorse President Brezhnev’s con- such gross inadvcrtanco and weakness cept of Asian collective security and had inflicted blows upon the honour exchanged Ambassadors with Com- and prestige of India which had been munist China though Russia was much held by other countries during the displeased Take the recent example Prims Ministership of Pandit Jawa- oT Afghanistan. When the Russian harlal Nehru atM Shrimati Indira military troops entered Afghanistan, Gandhi. We still remember and can immediately our Prime Minister, Shri- hardly forget those days when in the mati Indira Gandhi with firm convic- United Nations Assembly a rousincj tion and fearlessly declared that India standing ovation, clapping for full is against the presence of foreign trooos five minutes, was given by the United in any country. Now we learn lhit Nations Assembly tx> the historic Russia has declared that their troops speech made by Shrimati Indira in Afghanistan are being withdrawn. Gandhi. Those were the days when This is the success of non-alignment our foreign policy was at the highest policy which our country is following. peak. If we look to our neighbours, the quixotic manner in which the Janata I am sure, despite the rhetoric of Government had treated some of our Janata Party that it gave second neighbours, has created uncalled for freedom to the people of India, the peo- discord in their relations with us. The ple of India will not pardon the Janata Janata Government Prime Minister, Party for having brought such a slur Shri Morarji Desai’s statement meaning on th*» sovereignty of India. Under the that the annexation cf Sikkim was im- camouflage o: the phrase ‘genuine non- moral or unfair h ^ caused much harm alignment’, which had been coined by to our country’s interests. As if taking Shri Vajpayee, the Janata Party Gov- the cue from this, Bhutan declared D.G. 1980-81—Min. JULY 8, 1980 of Ktt. Again 396 [Shri Ajitsinh Dabhi] Considering that India’s role as a medi- ator in non-aligned forums has brought that it wanted to revise its treaty ol credit to India, it is just possible that 1949 which obliged it to be guided by ASEAN invited India not onlv to feel India’s advice in its conduct of foreign India’s pulse regarding recognition of affairs. Bhutan wanted to open direct Kampuchea, but also to seek India’s and bilateral negotiations with China. advice for defusing the crisis in South Fortunately, King Jigme WangchuK East Asia, which has been created bv disavowed of any such intention to pet the armed conflict between China and the treaty revised. But Bhutan’s insist- Vietnam, and between Vietnam and ence that (in the proposed Bhutanese Thailand. The Asian knows the im- •Airlines, Paro should be linked jv'th partiality with which India had dealt Calcutta should never be conceded, be- with the problems of Korea and had cause that will make Bhutan the cock- succeeded in solving it. Therefore, to pit of international intrigues. my mind, India ought not to have shunned its rule as a leader of the In the Farakka agreement, the tas\ third-world and should have attended preparing a long term plan for the it but, unfortunately, that could not augmentation of of Ganga’s flow be so. is assigned to Indo-Bangladesh Com - mission. But the exposure that one of the Janata Party Governments After the momentous elections of Ministers, Mr. Jagjivan Ram has sign- Indian Parliament in 1977 and then ed a letter to the effect that Nepal is again in 1980, the supremacy of the also to be involved in that plan, calls people of India has been established. for caution particularly in the back- Thereafter cne question is often being ground of the fact that Nepal has p ro - asked in the international arena: Wh> posed that it should be made a zone is it that though America and India of peace, guaranteed by two Super are the biggest working democracies Powers, and also by India and China. o£ the world, the relationship between This is nothing but directly and deli- the two countries for the last 30 years berately inviting Big Power interven- has been <>* most tenuous kind? The tion in India’s relations with Nepal. answer is that America, despite its rhetoric about democracy, does net res- This sudden desire on the part of our poet democracy. This is evident fnm neighbours to invite Super Power inter- the fact that they prefer to sunport vention in India’s relations with +herr, the military dictatorship in China, in appears to be a part cf some big inter- Pakistan, in Bangladesh. It is because national game. Therefore, our country India hos followed the path of demo- should be very cautious, and the non. cracy, India has become capable cf Foreign Minister should take note of maintaining certain freedom of action this. which America could not make or found it verv difficult to make India to con- The Association of South East As»en form to its global interests and suDre- Nations originally appeared on the macy. Many countries have succumbed international arena as a tool o!! to the political and economic pressure America’s policy to consolidate and to cf America, but India has not given protect the interests of the West ;n tl,e in despite the pressure of aid discon- Far East. Now it has ceased to be so. tinuance, as it happened in 1965 and It is no more acting as such a tool. 1 9 7 1 after the conflict with Pakistan. The ASEAN has ceased to act at the1 Pakistan is nothing but a pawn in the behest of the Chinese. So, the ASEAN international strategy of America to invitation to us to attend its "et serve its global interest. This is the together in Kuala Lumpur this year, reason why the Salal Agreement, with was highly welcomed. But our Foreign Pakistan has not been able to make a Minister Mr. Narasimha Rao has can. break-through in bilateral relations celled his programme to attend that between India and Pakistan. Pakistan’s ASEAN meeting at *Kuala Lumpur. demand that India should agre^ the 397 k.<5. 1980-81—Min. ASADHA It, 1902 (SAKA) of Ext. Affairs 398 strength of armed forces which each foreign missions and also regarding country can maintain is nothing but the most discourteous behaviour of the reflection of American policy. the reception staff, mostly girls, to- wards Indians who are not so good- China has made a suggestion; it ?s looking or wbo are not so well-to-do not still a proposal; it is a suggestion looking. Stern action should be taken that Indo-China border dispute can be against such staff irrespective of solved by treating the actual line of whether the person is a woman or a control as a border between the two girl; they should be made to know countries. This proposal is such that that they receive their salaries from it could be neither accepted nor reject- the Indian exchequer to which People ed; it is just as in the game of cncket of India, rich and poor, contribute. I where a crafty bowler sends down a am sure that so far as Indian Missions Ohina-man which can make you out abroad are concerned, the hon. Minis- even though you do not play it. There- ter who ig capable, will give a new fore, our Foreign Minister should be look to our missions abroad. With very cautious before opening any nego- these words, I support the demands. tiations in this respect, because China has been always adept at double deal- «ft frn fas STJT : (tot) : ing. It unashamedly can blow hot anc* far srerrfa cold. At the same time, when China Sfrr O T ^ ftr, q* ft «T^fr *TcT is going on with a good smile negotiat- s t t t ] T?T I t ^ vf^r ^ wrft | : kfo ^ d T ffff’NpRr wft *npr $t*rt f, qfr*t$ fww v w ,*m $ mk mxr TJfrt> ffim # * m t & sr. f t *ffff ff fftfrjrf ^ ^»r % iw ^ rftt- tin t ^ tfr«**fa 3r t ^ ^ ^ *r* ,«pt • n p r j w t %r jgftrr \ *?ffww f tit* fRTTSPgT ] by Shri indrajit Gupta regarding delay in declaration of results of Assembly I, w p tm t *r immvr Elections in Bihar had been fixed for i finw *rbt flrwr v ^n?w tomorrow, the 9th July, 1980. At the * t w ?t wrr* *n v im rw request of the Minister who is to go qmft ^ *mppr v, w t * *n: m%4\» SHRI CHITTA BASU (Barasat) : Mr. Chairman, at the outset, 1 join wr^rfw tor fa** 2f, f»?r s s.’Tt, my other friends in the Hou'fe to con- gratulate the hon. Minister for accor- ?ft, ?rft wrf, ?T% *nrt ?r ^rr i ding recognition to Kammiche'-i. MR. CHAIRMAN: You nny con- tinue tomorrow. 17.58 hrs. 18.00 hrs. 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