Beyond Payne's Armorial

Beyond Payne’s Armorial: Some Poindexter Ancestors Of George Poindexter Of Criss Cross Plantation, Virginia

Part I Major Sources Used

© 2010 Robert de Berardinis I, 3—Major Sources Used • Jersey Archives Sacramental & other church records > Sacramental Registers (Baptisms, Marriages, and Funerals) of the Parishes of St. Saviour and St. Hélier > Treasurer’s book of St. Saviour Parish Court Records (Jersey Greffe or Clerk) > Cour de Samedi > Cour Royale > Cour de Catel > Cour d’Héritage Marrett transcriptions/translations

• Société Jersiase Annual Bulletins (BSJ) Independent Publications (Assizes…1309) Original manuscripts The volumes of Thomas Le Maître

© 2010 Robert de Berardinis I, 5—Major Sources Used, Continued Thomas Le Maître • 2 vols. of certified copies of documents lost by 1760, mostly protocols of acts of sale • Each copy is certified by the Lieutenant-Bailiff and several jurats of Jersey

1774 certification to sale of Fief es-Poingdestres, 1419. Translation: The present copy was accurately rendered from the original document, authen- ticated under the seal of the Bailiff … of Jersey, & this is proven to have conformed word for word to the original document…[May 28, 1774]. © 2010 Robert de Berardinis I, 6—Major Sources Used, Continued

• British Library, London

• The National Archives of the United Kingdom, Kew Assize Rolls

© 2010 Robert de Berardinis II, 7—Payne’s Armorial—From George to George Part II From immigrant George Poindexter Of Criss Cross, Virginia To his ancestor George Poindexter Who died in 1543 As shown in Payne’s Armorial F Some Evidence E

© 2010 Robert de Berardinis II, 8—Payne’s Armorial—From George to George Payne’s Armorial is: J. Bertrand Payne, An Armorial of Jersey, Being an Account, Heraldic and Antiquarian, of Its Chief Native Families, with Pedigrees, Biographical Notices, and Illustrative Data; to Which Are Added A Brief History of Heraldry and Remarks on the Mediæval Antiquities of the Island (Jersey, 1860) • Mostly correct about the ancestral line, although some relationships incorrect as well as parents of wives and children • No evidence of relationships offered © 2010 Robert de Berardinis II, 9—Payne’s Armorial—From George to George Payne’s Armorial begins with George Poindexter who died in 1543:

= Ancestral line of George of Virginia © 2010 Robert de Berardinis II, 10—Payne’s Armorial—From George to George Burial act of George Poingdestre, 11 November 1543, G/C/09/A1/1, St. Saviour’s Parish Registers, Composite Register 1, Baptisms, 16/10/1540– 12/10/1684, Marriages, 28/16/1542–20/09/1684, and Burials, 29/08/1541–28/04/1683, p. 237, from Jersey Archives.

[Year 1543] Original (French): George Poingdestre le 11 de Nov~[em]b[re] : Translation: George Poingdestre [buried] the 11[th] of November © 2010 Robert de Berardinis II, 11—Payne’s Armorial—From George to George Additional Charter 37,995 (British Library) Ancestral lineage of George Poindexter of Virginia

Additional Charter 37,995 (British Library) [Sale by] Edward Poingdestre son of John Poingdestre son of George to Francis Amy…in the parish of [St Saviour]…[for a cabot of corn rent and a rent of a capon]…St Helier December 22, 1599. Before George Poulet, Esq., Bailiff, with Peter de Soulemont and Philip Rommorill [sic] Jurats © 2010 Robert de Berardinis II, 12—Payne’s Armorial—From George to George

Detail – Additional Charter 37,995 (British Library)

Original (French): Edouard poingdestre filz [fils] de John poingdestre filz [de] george Translation: Edouard Poindestre son of John Poingdestre son [of] George

© 2010 Robert de Berardinis II, 13—Payne’s Armorial—From George to George Baptism of George Poingdestre, 23 December 1627, G/C/09/A1/1, St. Saviour’s Parish Registers, Composite Register 1, Baptisms, 16/10/1540–12/10/1684, Marriages, 28/16/1542–20/09/1684, and Burials, 29/08/1541– 28/04/1683, p. 49

Original (French): George filz [fils] de Thomas Poingdestre filz [d’] Edouard le 23 de Sept[embr]e Translation: George son of Thomas Poingdestre son [of] Edouard [baptized on] the 23rd of September [1627] © 2010 Robert de Berardinis II, 14—Payne’s Armorial—From George to George Understanding the Evidence: Additional Charter 37,995 (British Library) • Meets evidence tests of Noel Stevenson and Elizabeth Mills • Ancestral line from Edouard Poindexter (grandfather of George of Virginia) to George who died in 1543 is not contradicted Baptismal act of George Poindexter (St. Saviour’s) • Meets Stevenson and Mills evidence tests • Written by his grandfather Nicolas Effard • Ancestral line from George of Virginia to his grandfather Edouard is not contradicted © 2010 Robert de Berardinis III, 15—Ancestors of George who died in 1543

Part III The ancestors of George Poindexter Who died in 1543 F Some Evidence E

1. Jean, fils (IV) — father of George, d. 1543 • Constable (Connétable) of St. Saviour in 1462 (BSJ, 5: 329) • Civil Judge (Jugé-Justicier) 1481–1500 (BSJ, 4: 219) • Lieutenant-Bailiff (Lieutenant-Bailli) 1485–1493 (BSJ, 4: 94)

Translation: 1486-1493. Clément Le Hardy. In 1486, and 1492-3, John Poingdestre was his Lieutenant.

© 2010 Robert de Berardinis III, 18—Ancestors of George who died in 1543 2. Jean (III), father of John (IV) (arms shown on Jersey stamp) • Wife was Hélène Morin, daughter of Nicolas Morin • Justice of the Peace (Jurat) in 1446 (Le Maître II, pp. 90–91) • Civil Judge (Jugé-Justicier) in 1450, 1461, 1463, 1465 (BSJ, 4: 218–9) • Lieutenant-Bailiff (Lieutenant-Bailli) in 1465 (Le Maître II, pp. 87–88) © 2010 Robert de Berardinis III, 19—Ancestors of George who died in 1543 Jean (III), Justice of the Peace (Le Maître II, p. 90)

Translation: Copy To All Those who by these very presents will see or listen, Clément Le Hardy, Bailiff of our Sire the King of England, on the island of Jersey greetings to God that all may know in the year of his grace [1446], the 17th day of the month of February, this being a legal copy… © 2010 Robert de Berardinis III, 20—Ancestors of George who died in 1543 Jean (III), Justice of the Peace (Le Maître II, p. 91), Continued

Translation: present to this were Philipot Pain, John Poyngdestre, & William Hamptonne, Jurats of the King, who signed this copy below.

2. Jean (III), Continued • Bailiff (Bailli) in 1452 Le Maître II, pp. 246–247 • Bailiff (Bailli) in 1457 Le Maître II, pp. 250–251, 395–397 • Bailiff (Bailli) in 1459–1461 Le Maître II, pp. 253–254, 262–263 • Bailiff (Bailli) in 1470–1476 Le Maître II, pp. 60–61, 89–90, 123–124, 200–201, 254–261, 263–264, 338–340, 397–403; BSJ, 4: 93–4

Translation: To All Those who by these very presents will see or listen, Drouet Le Hardy, Lieutenant of John Poyndestre, Bailiff of our Sire the King of England on the island of Jersey, greeting to God that all may know in the year of his grace [1452], the Saturday before the feast of the Epiphany of our Lord were legally present… © 2010 Robert de Berardinis III, 23—Ancestors of George who died in 1543

3. Jean (II) • Wife was Jeanne, parentage unknown • Co-seigneur of the Fief ès Diélamont (No. 4, Contrat de 1413, BSJ, 4: 418–19) • Lieutenant-Bailiff (Lieutenant-Bailli) in 1424–1425 (Le Maître II, pp. 59–60) • Purchased Fief ès Poingdestres (in Parish of St. John) on September 1, 1419 from Colette de St-Hélier, widow Augrés (Le Maître II, pp. 149–150) © 2010 Robert de Berardinis III, 24—Purchase of Fief ès-Poingdestres, 1419 (Le Maître II, pp. 149–150)

Translation: To All Those who by these very presents will see or listen, Thomas Danyel, Bailiff on the island of Jersey under the very noble & powerful Prince Monseigneur the Duke of Bedford, Earl of Richmond and of Kendal, Constable of England & Seigneur of the Channel Islands greetings to God that all may know in the year… © 2010 Robert de Berardinis III, 26—Purchase of Fief ès-Poingdestres, p. 150

Translation: of his Grace [1419] Saturday immediately after the feast of St. William were present in judgment before us

© 2010 Robert de Berardinis III, 27—Purchase of Fief ès-Poingdestres, p. 150 Translation: Continued …at St. Hélier that is to wit John Poingdestre of the first party and Collette de St. Hélier from Guernsey [widow of] Pierre des Augrés of the second party in which Collette sold, ceded, and relinquished voluntarily so as to convey to his estate and to its heirs to the said Poingdestre & to Jeanne his wife both alive and afterwards to the estate and heirs of the said Poingdestre the Fief of Moustier in St. John’s Parish, which Fief is held primarily by our Sire the King that is to wit, the Law Court, the franchise, the tax collection, and the writ of whichever Royal Provost who will show himself… © 2010 Robert de Berardinis III, 28—Ancestors of George Poindexter, died in 1543

4. Jean (I) • Justice of the Peace (Jurat) in 1385 (Chancery, pp.84–5) • Chief Collector of Feudal Dues and Taxes of Jersey (Récéveur-Général) in 1363 (BSJ, 7: 52 citing Receveur d’Edmond de Cheny, Warwick Castle Deeds, No. 1163B) • Civil Judge (Jugé-Justicier) in 1367–1368, 1370, 1377, 1379, 1382, 1384, 1388–1389 (1368: Le Maître II, pp. 23–24) (BSJ, 4: 214–5)

Part IV Some Early Poindexters In Jersey (Before 1400) F Some Evidence E

Randolph and Geoffrey Poingdestre, 1381 (Parish of St. Clement) • Cartulaire de Jersey : Recueil des documents concernant l’histoire de l’île conservés dans les Archives du département de La Manche (Jersey, 1918), pp. 76 and 77

Peter Poingdestre, wife Frances, and sister Joan • Rolls of the Assizes Held in the Channel Islands in the Second Year of the Reign of King Edward II, AD 1309 (Jersey, 1903), p. 209 • JUST 1/1166, 5 Edward III, Rotulet 18 [Parish of St. Saviour], July 31, 1331, The National Archives, Kew, London, U.K. • JUST 1/1169, membrane 6, Articles of the Eyre, Veredicta, 1323, TNA, U.K.

© 2010 Robert de Berardinis IV, 34—Early Poindexters in Jersey Assizes … AD 1309, p. 209 Understanding the evidence Assize shows: • Peter had a sister Joan • Peter was a troublemaker • Peter had rights under the University of Paris This means: • Almost certainly not a native of Jersey, due to financial requirements for student attendance at the University of Paris (founded mid-11th century) • Had received a license to teach at the University of Paris in order to receive ―rights‖ © 2010 Robert de Berardinis IV, 35—Early Poindexters in Jersey JUST 1/1166, 5 Edward III, Rotulet 18, (July 31, 1331)

Underlined in red: (Latin) F[ran]ce[s] uxis Petre Poyndestre Translation: Rotulet 18 [Parish of Saint Saviour] ...Likewise the jurors present that the lord king has in this parish...And of Peter Ugon 4 cabots of wheat for two virgates 10 perches (60-1/16 acres) of land from F[ran]ce[s] wife of Peter Poyndester [flourish]… © 2010 Robert de Berardinis IV, 36—Early Poindexters in Jersey JUST 1/1169, membrane 6, Eyre, Veredicta, 1323

Translation: Item the jurors say that a certain piece of land situated in the parish of Saint Saviour’s by forfeiture formerly of the wife of Peter Poingdestre with whom she was married who were hanged on the gallows and valued at four cabots of wheat by the king’s minister which land is now held by Peter Ugon.

© 2010 Robert de Berardinis IV, 37—Early Poindexters in Jersey No Poindexter names appear on any document concerning Jersey residents before 1309 • Mont Orgueil Castle basement wall –List of Jersey men who defended their island in 1290 from French attack –Absent means probably that no living adult male Poindexter on Jersey in 1290 –Possibility exists that Poindexters were living on Jersey at that time

Part V Poindexter Origins: Future Research In Normandy

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© 2010 Robert de Berardinis V, 40—Poindexters in Normandy Remaining research plan: • Jersey Archives As of 2009, Ecclesiastical Court (Probates) • The National Archives of the United Kingdom Assize Rolls (More) Bailiff Rolls of Jersey • Archives départementales de La Manche Records of the Dioceses of Coutances, Caen, Bayeux, Avranches, and St-Lo (Successions) Greffe (clerk) records Many medieval Bailiff and Seneschal records • Bibliothèque Nationale • Archives Nationales de France Normandy head of household rolls (cadâtres) © 2010 Robert de Berardinis Beyond Payne’s Armorial: Some Poindexter Ancestors Of George Poindexter Of Criss Cross Plantation, Virginia THE END APPLAUSE WILDLY © 2010 Robert de Berardinis