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Derek Trucks and turned heads when they both put their successful solo projects on hold to pursue the new, 11-person Tedeschi Trucks Band in the middle of an economic recession. Now, two studio and hundreds of dates later, their new family band has grown into much more than a short-term side-project.

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JANUARY_FEBRUARY 2014 | WWW.RELIX.COM 50 | Tedeschi Trucks Band “ Nice.You can’t go wrong with Hendrix.” shares his enthusiasm at the outset of an impromptu listening connection he had with Phil party on the second floor of Swamp Raga Studios. Nestled comfortably and [Bill] Kreutzmann—that trio especially—when you listen within a plush chair while his wife Susan Tedeschi settles in on an adjoining to the tapes, it’s like a band couch, the pair salute the selection of longtime crew member and studio within a band. When these engineer Bobby Tis, who carefully removes Axis: Bold As Love from its dust three guys lined up, it was like jacket and dutifully cleans the . Tis proceeds deliberately—a sonic this little sports car inside of this really loose Salvador Dali cleric preparing an offering for the turntable. painting.” At the close of his Phil and He cues it up and the results place. It was like jumping into eventually accepted a two-week Friends run, Trucks, who was are nothing short of a revelation. warm water.” stint of Phil and Friends dates, still living with his parents, A true Jimi Hendrix Experience Yet while Swamp Raga offers stepping in for guitarist Steve returned home to find a check delivered as originally intended, a familiar, comfortable setting Kimock, who had departed in the mail for his efforts. with exquisite clarity and for Tedeschi Trucks Band, a mid-tour. (Trucks originally However, upon opening the separation. place to call their own, it is not indicated that he would need envelope, he was reluctant to Though they have heard this just a home studio.Rather, to postpone his involvement cash it, fearing that there may album many times before, situated 40 yards from the by a few days to honor prior have been an error. Trucks Tedeschi, Trucks and Tis soon house where the group’s commitments with The Derek had agreed to a salary that he chatter excitedly about their married namesakes first settled Trucks Band, but two Deadhead believed was a lump sum for discoveries from this go-round. in together and are now raising club owners agreed to the entire tour, yet the check They marvel at the interview their two children, it truly is a postponements as personal was 12 times that score. After segment that opens the record, home studio. favors to Phil.) Phil’s office validated the as Mitch Mitchell’s voice drifts “Those two weeks on that amount of the unexpected to the right side of the room **** Phil gig were pretty amazing, windfall, confirming that the before abruptly careening in the SWAMP RAGA WOULD NOT going in pretty green to the agreed-on compensation had opposite direction with a hard exist but for the largesse of two whole thing,” Trucks remembers. been for each gig and not the left. Eyes open and ears wide, renowned benefactors. “Every day, I would get a tour in total, Derek decided to they exhibit the animation and In late October 1999, a cassette tape of the Dead doing go house-hunting. Trucks and energy of like-minded music 20-year-old Trucks had just versions of tunes we would play Tedeschi were dating at the buffs. walked offstage following a that night, so I would sit down time and he invited her to Of course, they’re much performance with his own with headphones, make crude join him in the pursuit, which more than that because the self-titled group at The Attic charts and then, I’d just wing it. resulted in the purchase of floor below is where Tedeschi in Greensboro, N.C., when he No one plays like Phil. You’d the house along Jacksonville’s Trucks Band have recorded two noticed a few missed calls from know where he was going—he Julington Creek where they heralded studio albums, most a 415 area code. would spell it out—but it’s all still reside today. recently , the “I didn’t know anybody from improv and it’s all him taking it Their studio was a product follow-up to the group’s 2011 415, but my number was the to different places. It was a lot of Trucks’ period on the road debut. community phone for of fun just following him. with in 2006 and “Every night, when we’d get so everybody’s family would “Learning that material, 2007. Eager to spend more done tracking, we’d come up call if it was an emergency. you get a quick appreciation time at home, he envisioned here and listen to it on this There was a message from for what’s great about it. I creating a rehearsal space in his system,” Trucks explains. “That , and I recognized the think people underestimate backyard for The Derek Trucks way, we’d know we were not name but I couldn’t fully place how unique the songwriting Band. So he grabbed a legal pad bullshitting ourselves. These it. I knew there was a Grateful was with the band. It’s pretty and a measuring tape, jotting things are relentless.” Dead connection there but I advanced stuff harmonically; down a rough outline of a small “If you come up here with a didn’t know that stuff at all.” there’s a lot going on. And building that could replace his half-assed mix…” Tis remarks. Trucks returned the call and Garcia was one of a kind. The fishing shack in the backyard. “It exaggerates the wrong,” “I remember showing this to Trucks adds with a laugh. Bobby and he said, ‘Let me By all accounts, these wrongs show these to my dad,’ because were few and far between his dad [Bob Tis] builds studios, during the creation of Made Up “ We usually paint a pretty picture but it’s not and I got back these proper Mind. As vocalist perfect all of the time. It’s hard. Derek’s used to drawings for a room. The timing recalls, “The first time everybody being a leader and having things flow smoothly. was great. The Clapton tour was getting used to how this I’m sort of like a big stick in the wheel and he has had just happened and I said, would work—finding a routine to deal with me on top of it. I have to deal with him. ‘We’re going to pretend this and finding a method—but with We’ve been really lucky that we’ve been able to didn’t happen and we’re building this record, that was already in communicate.” SUSAN TEDESCHI a studio.’ No new car, every check

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Derek and Susan “Bound For Glory” at Lockn’

would go to David [his brother, for the world of sports, this 2000s, the musicians and crew precursor to Tedeschi Trucks the second of four Trucks mantra from the 1989 baseball took a detour one afternoon to Band. It drew together members children—Derek is the eldest fantasy film Field Of Dreams is local batting cages. With the of the couple’s respective followed by David, Duane and altogether apropos when pitching machine set to fast, touring groups. On one hand, Lindsey], who was overseeing describing the genesis of the Tedeschi was the only one to it was an attempt by the family the project. We had a lot of Tedeschi Trucks Band and their make contact with every pitch. to be together while the couple’s friends and people cutting us debut recording at Swamp Raga. “I’ve got good hand-eye son Charlie and his younger deals on anything they could Back when she was growing coordination but I’m not a sister Sophia were out of school but it was still expensive. We up outside , Susan power hitter—I’m more like an during summer vacation. Beyond cut corners without cutting Tedeschi attended a basketball Ichiro [Suzuki, who celebrated that, Trucks acknowledges, quality. My dad and brothers camp run by former Celtics his 4,000th professional hit in “In the back of my mind, it was did the roof.” center Dave Cowens. She is 2013].” an unspoken audition for us— “I soldered most of the stuff still a tenacious defender when In July 2008, while touring to see if it made sense, if we in this place myself,” Bobby drawn into the “musicians with the Derek Trucks & Susan enjoyed it, if it was something attests, “because I had spent all ball” games that the group Tedeschi Soul Stew Revival, we wanted to do.” the other money. We all went occasionally initiates on the the pair traveled with enough Ultimately, they decided it for it because that’s what it took road. (“We only play with other people to field two full-on was indeed something that they and it’s been real rewarding.” musicians and we try not to hurt baseball teams. “We bought a wished to pursue but rather “Everyone went beyond the ourselves,” Trucks explains. bunch of gear,” Trucks recalls. than continue Soul Stew, they call,” Trucks affirms. “Rebounding is 20 percent less “So on days off, we’d load up aspired to form something aggressive and if somebody beats the bus, go to a field and play new. While contemplating **** you, you let them finish it.”) nine on nine.” their approach, the pair looked If you build it they will come. During an Allman Brothers Soul Stew was the collective to such antecedents as Delaney

Stuart Levine Stuart Given Derek and Susan’s gusto Band summer tour in the early project that served as the & Bonnie, James Brown and

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Bobby “Blue” Bland. Another “I’ve seen a lot of moments at the Beacon. I think I’ve reason, she wasn’t in it—maybe turning point was a viewing of been there for 170 shows and that one had a unique because it’s easy to get pigeon- Mad Dogs & Englishmen, which feel because it was pretty unexpected. When Clapton holed in a rocker thing inspired them to contemplate a played with the Allman Brothers, everyone already but there’s just so much more horn section. The logistics of to it than that. I feel there are a managing so many personalities knew—the word had gotten out. It was still an amazing handful of timeless songs that and musical elements gave the moment when he stepped out onstage; however, it her voice deserves. We’re still pair pause, but then, on New wasn’t a shock. But when Dickey came out, you could trying to write songs for that. Year’s Eve 2008, the tell it meant something.” DEREK TRUCKS ‘Midnight In Harlem’ is a great Arkestra opened for Soul Stew example of a timeless song and a at the in . timeless voice and those things “I remember seeing these don’t happen much anymore.” guys pushing their 70s and 80s, ambitious from a practical point and sees a lot of these kids rolling up in a 15-passenger of view.” struggling to eat. So what does **** Ford Econoline to the show One of Derek and Susan’s he do? He goes to a bank on WHILE REVELATOR W O U L D G O and I was like, ‘Wow, that is early decisions was to create an off day on tour and gets a on to win the Grammy for Best hardcore.’ Those guys were an a role for Mattison, who had $15,000 loan to buy a little piece Blues Album eight months after inspiration, having the balls to been the lead singer in The of land in their neighborhood its June 2011 release, it took a even do it,” Trucks discloses. Derek Trucks Band. She and start a community garden. little while for Tedeschi Trucks “Then, if you think about the explains, “Mike is really one of He did this for his neighborhood Band to gain momentum. This big bands, those guys did it in my favorite singers doing it out kids so they could eat organic was partially by design, given cars, trains, and they did it for there today. He’s a great talent and take pride in growing it the bandleaders’ particular no money, especially later on. and right on the same page with themselves. Kebbi is the real deal.” commitment to artistic integrity Early on, it was popular music Derek and myself. It’s hard to By the time the band and an unwillingness to pander, but toward the end, it was not. have two lead vocalists, but he convened at Swamp Raga in almost to a fault. In an effort to It was for the love of the game.” was really into the idea of doing late 2010 to record Revelator, allow the new group to flourish the Gladys Knight & the Pips Maurice Brown (trumpet) and on its own terms, they pushed **** kind of thing—having the guys Saunders Sermons (trombone) away from familiar back-catalog SUSAN TEDESCHI AND DEREK back up the girl. That’s not real joined the brass section. The material, fearing that audiences Trucks cast conventional popular. You usually have girls drumming tandem of Tyler would view TTB as a brief, economic wisdom aside in backing up a guy or girls backing “Falcon” Greenwell and J.J. indulgent interlude before its selecting their new band. The up a girl.” While Ryan Shaw Johnson, along with the namesakes resumed their prior couple enlisted two drummers, initially joined Mattison, after Burbridge brothers, Oteil (bass) projects and that this might two backing vocalists and a some scheduling conflicts arose, and Kofi (keyboards/flute), impact the music in some way. three-piece horn section, with Shaw recommended Mark completed the lineup. “Every- “Although they might not the complete group topping Rivers, who became Mattison’s body was getting their sea legs admit it,” Trucks elaborates, out at 11 players. This was the fellow Pip. in terms of how this was going “every musician, every band, collective they decided to Just as the background to work technically, getting finds certain things that work, bring on tour in the midst of vocalists started with Mattison, used to the studio space and whether you’re inspired or not an economic recession, trusting the horn section began with just figuring out how to be in or whether you’re having a their creative vision and Kebbi Williams, the man who that environment,” Mattison great night or not. There are enthusiasm to hold sway with Tedeschi describes as “the Jimi recounts. “There’s a studio certain songs that people will audiences. Hendrix of the .” out there but there’s also their respond to; there are certain “I remember when we first Trucks offers, “He’s such a free home and when you get 15, 16 grooves and solo sections where started talking about it, our spirit, personally and musically. people milling around, there you can get a crowd to roar management asked us if we He is just one of the guys where aren’t many places to go, so every time. We didn’t want any were thinking clearly,” Trucks you never know what is going you’re kind of in somebody’s safe bets, any cheap shots—we chuckles. “I get it, I can do math. to happen. Every time he picks house. I think it’s a testament really wanted to do it new and Then, there were other people up an instrument, every time to Derek and Susan that fresh, finding different ways to we knew who were convinced he takes a solo, it can go in everybody felt at home. It’s not make it happen.” that we were selling out by doing any direction; there is no like, ‘Hey, you guys are crossing Part of Derek’s approach it. I was like, ‘I don’t think you’ve preconceived notion. We were a line,’ or ‘We need some private has been to keep the band on thought this argument through playing the Montreux time.’ It could get a little cramped its collective toes, as with a very well because we are Festival, and I was walking but everybody was welcome in nod of his head, he might call playing the same venues with down the street when I heard every sense of the word.” an audible assigning one of twice as many people onstage.’” this avant-garde trombone. It Trucks produced the album his regular solos to another “It’s an unwieldy beast,” Mike was Kebbi playing some other with Jim Scott, and Derek member of the group. This Mattison attests. “There are a dude’s trombone. He’ll grab any approached the sessions with a tactic has been met with lot of personalities, musically instrument at any time. He just particular objective regarding resounding success even if it and otherwise. It’s never easy does not care. He’s fearless. Susan. “One of the reasons I has occasionally flustered one having a group of musicians There’s something to that.” wanted to put this band together member of the TTB. together. Musicians, for the most There’s something else to and do a record is I think she’s “Derek and Falcon some- part, are idiot savants. They’re Williams as well, which one of the great singers of this times push my buttons to get not the most well-adjusted Tedeschi notes, with deep generation,” Trucks contends. me mad,” Susan acknowledges, people on earth, so to have 11 admiration. “He lives in a pretty “And I felt like whenever that citing a night when her husband of them together is pretty rough neighborhood in Atlanta conversation came up, for some was trying to get her to solo on

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“Get What You Deserve,” where will laugh about it when it’s like raising good kids. When “Which is good,” she he typically takes the honors. over. It’s never mean-spirited. your kids do something you’re continues, “because it gives us “I was like, ‘No, I am not playing We never go too far.” proud of, it makes you feel better some time to think about it. on it; you play on it.’ I was being Still, while it’s one thing to about each other. Plus, for us, it And playing is the best healing bratty and he just sat there and playfully antagonize a co-worker, hasn’t been like we were ever anyway. If you have something wouldn’t play.” things could become a bit more home together, hanging out and that is frustrating you, there’s Derek affirms, “I was like, complicated when that person having a normal life. One of the no better way to let it out than ‘I will wait you out. We will all is one’s spouse. There are many reasons we waited this long to music.” just stand up here mid-tune.’ loving couples who would find do it was to make sure we knew I told her, ‘You can pout but you the experience of working each other well enough and had **** better play.’” together on a daily basis while matured as people enough. THE NINE-MINUTE VERSION “They were right,” she now sharing a leadership role to be That’s what the Soul Stew thing of “Midnight In Harlem” that laughs. “I was pouty and bratty somewhat trying. was a little bit—trying to feel Tedeschi Trucks Band performed about it that night, and I was “We usually paint a pretty that out. I think one of the on the afternoon of Sunday, like, ‘Grrrrrr.’ Afterward, they picture,” Susan offers, “but it’s things we’ve been really good September 8, 2013 at Virginia’s told me, ‘Yay, Sue, awesome not perfect all of the time. It’s about is—other than needling Lockn’ Festival was sublime. solo,’ I was like, ‘Shut up.’” hard. Derek’s used to being a each other—we don’t bring it to Derek sounded the call at the Her husband acknowledges, leader and having things flow the stage. When we hit the outset with a shimmering, “It was a great solo. There are smoothly. I’m sort of like a big stage, all bets are off, no matter yearning solo. The audience certain songs that I know that stick in the wheel and he has to what we’re going through. We then offered a hearty applause of if she’s a little mad, she’ll play deal with me on top of it. I have have enough respect for the recognition as Kofi Burbridge’s better —she just takes it to deal with him. We’ve been band and for the work we’re familiar organ lines spelled out out on the guitar. So there are really lucky that we’ve been doing. We hold ourselves to a the Revelator tune. It was one of times that I’ll needle her a little able to communicate.” high standard. Even if we’re many songs that received such a bit onstage right before a solo “I can honestly say that our going through some shit, it response at the festival on what and Falcon will look back at me relationship has been better doesn’t hit the stage.” served as family reunion day for and say, “Yeah!” He’s known her since we’ve been doing this,” “We’ll actually talk about it,” the TTB. long enough; he’s played in her Derek asserts. “When I think Susan affirms, “and say, ‘OK, Among the musicians band. He knows that when she’s about it, it’s always in context. whatever we’re dealing with, guesting with the group was in certain moods, she’ll play Relationships are work but it’s we’ll talk about it later.’” , who a year better. When you have family been so much better doing this “Talk to you in four hours,” earlier, had announced that he that’s this tight musically, where together because we’re doing her husband adds. “I’ll meet would be leaving Tedeschi

John Patrick Gatta Patrick John you can do stuff like that, people something we love to do. It’s you in room 417.” Trucks Band to focus on starting a family with his wife . That decision was not altogether unexpected. Derek explains, “When we first talked about putting a band together with Oteil, he was a little road-worn but the chance for all of us to work together was too much to pass up. From the beginning, I knew it wouldn’t be a 20-year thing with Oteil, or 15, 10 or even five but the chemistry out of the gate was so strong that we just did it. But when you’re trying to start a young family, not everyone’s OK with you being gone all the time. Our band is so big that not everyone is privy to every conversation. Not everyone knew Oteil’s backstory and it was hard for everyone to make sense of it all, especially when things were rolling so well.” To keep things in motion, the group opted to record Made Up Mind, the rich, soulful follow-up to Revelator, with multiple bass players. This decision proved conducive to the material as contributions by Chris Robinson and Susan share a moment Continued on page 75

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Pino Palladino, Bakithi Kumalo, George With Lefebvre firmly in place at Lockn’, and I would turn around, and there was Reiff and Dave Monsey added variety and the TTB concluded their set with a double Chris on a drum case going, ‘Do that shit! nuance to the recording. Jim Scott returned dose of Sly & the Family Stone, moving from Do all that shit! Do it!’ He was just enjoying to Swamp Raga to share production duties “Sing a Simple Song” into “I Want to Take himself and it was really fun.” with Trucks, and the result sounded both You Higher.” As they slid into the second That kind of infectious energy emanated timeless and of the moment. tune, unbeknownst to the musicians up from both sides of the stage in late September The following eight months saw a front, , Chris Robinson and Jackie over three evenings at ’s Beacon variety of bassists on something of a Greene joined the formation at the rear of Theatre. Each show took on its own catch-as-catch-can basis with the group, the stage, wielding tambourines and singing character, reflecting the band’s versatility including Palladino, George Porter Jr. and harmonies. After discovering the trio, Susan and aplomb. Night one showcased the longtime friend Eric Krasno, who moved beckoned Weir to the front and he ambled group’s freer more exploratory side. The from his familiar role on guitar. However, up to her mic, joining the explosive fray. concluding performance had much more this period began to take its toll on the One of the remarkable things about the of classic soul feel with special guests Lee band, as the musicians essentially needed Tedeschi-Trucks union is that Derek isn’t Fields, Doyle Bramhall, Neal Evans and to relearn the material for each new bass the only one to have earned his Grateful Eric Krasno. Still, it was the middle gig that player. Dead bona fides. In 2002, Susan Tedeschi many cherish, as the group brought Dickey By Lockn’, this era had just ended with embarked on a fall run with The Other Betts back to the stage—where he had once the addition of , who finally Ones [soon to be redubbed The Dead]. performed so many dates with The Allman liberated the group from its Groundhog Day “Being out with Bobby, I quickly came to Brothers Band—for “In Memory of Elizabeth cycle. Lefebvre—who had recorded and realize how quirky and original his thing Reed,” “Blue Sky” and “The Sky Is Crying.” performed with , is. He plays some really intricate rhythm “I’ve seen a lot of moments at the and Mark Giuliana—first raised eyebrows parts and does some really cool things that Beacon,” Trucks reflects. “I think I’ve during his initial rehearsal with the group you don’t necessarily notice. And he’s just a been there for 170 shows and that one and by the second night of the TTB’s late sweetheart. He’s absolutely down to earth had a unique feel because it was pretty summer tour had won them over, leading and sweet as pie. Phil, too—they’re really unexpected. When Clapton played with Kebbi Williams to observe, “I feel like the just loving guys.” the Allman Brothers, everyone already band formed again.” Tedeschi and her group maintain a knew—the word had gotten out. It was still Tedeschi has high praise for everyone similar collective sentiment for Chris an amazing moment when he stepped out who filled the bass role, noting that each Robinson and , who had onstage, however, it wasn’t a shock. But player highlighted the group’s many hues. invited TTB to share a bill and then the when Dickey came out, you could tell it However, she also observes that Lefebvre stage throughout a summer tour that meant something. The thing I enjoyed propelled the group in a singular manner: concluded three weeks earlier. (The about it is that it wasn’t lost on anybody. “The energy really changed with him. My Crowes’ lineup now includes Greene, who It was some sort of bridge, some kind of brother Jamie, who used to play bass, had a once opened a few tours for Tedeschi.) minor healing to the whole saga. That, really good description of Tim. He said, ‘Sue, Robinson indicates that a communal to me, was the point of it.” this is the first bass player I’ve seen play spirit took hold from the start. “Day one up The decision for Tedeschi Trucks Band with you guys that has driven the band.’” there in Nashville, it was like, ‘Should we to perform Allman Brothers Band material “He’s coming from a place that I’m not jam?’ ‘Yeah, what do you guys want to do?’ also says something about the development fully aware of, which is nice,” Trucks adds. So it was everyone in the pool right away of the TTB. Where Derek was once adamant “It’s fresh music, fresh ideas, fresh blood. and it just took off from there.” about circumscribing the group’s The fact that a lot of us haven’t played with Where it ultimately landed, beyond repertoire, he was now prepared to cast him and don’t know him is kind of exciting. steady sit-ins over a month of shows, was a aside these earlier dictates. He’s unafraid, progressive and he approaches climactic final evening outside of Detroit “We’re at a point where we feel like things differently than I have ever in which 20 musicians—both groups along we’re established enough that we can play approached them. I never really played with the openers London Souls—packed whatever we want to play. If we want to do with someone that has the angle he has.” the stage for a six-song encore. a song from Susan’s record, we’ll do it The collaborative sequences led without thinking about it. If we want to do Tedeschi Trucks Band to learn new songs a song from one of my old records that Mike daily at the beginning of the tour. This sings on, we’ll just do it. We’re not worried effort, in conjunction with the infusion about confusing anyone with what this is of energy that Lefebvre brought to bear, anymore. I think, as time goes on, the proved liberating to Derek in particular, parameters get wider and the lid comes off.” who was willing to break from his group’s Chris Robinson, who has had a hand in more regimented recent past to suggest, this development and certainly observed it “Let’s throw in a new song tonight and if from a unique vantage point, is over the it tanks, we’ve got 12 others.” moon about the group’s future. Chris Robinson was on hand to watch all “In a world of contrived, corporate, of this develop from a steady perch at the shallow status-seeking nothingness, there’s rear of the stage. Mike Mattison still marvels a whole lot of love right there—and a whole at the fact that the Crowes frontman would lot of organic music and a whole lot of seemingly forgo dinner to watch many of cosmic consciousness. I couldn’t be more their sets throughout the tour. “Mark and impressed. I don’t know where excellence I would be back there and the first song begins and tremendous stops. It’s all one would end, there would be some applause big scoop of joy.”

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