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Eighth Series, Vol. IV, No. 19 Tuesday. April U, 1985 Valsaklla 3, lt07 (~) LOK SABHA DEBATES· (English Version) Second Session (Eighth Lok Sabha) (Yol.IV contains NOI_ 21 to 30) LOI SABHASECUTARIAT NEW DELJD Price: RI. 4.00 [OIuGlNAL ENGLISH PllOCBBDINGS lNCLODBD IN BNaum VBllSION AND ORIGINAL HINDI PllOCEBDtNOS lNCLUDID IN IIINDI VWION WILle BE ftBATBD AS AUnlO:tITATlVB AND NO! mB DANSLATION TBliRBOP.J CONTl.r:TS No. 28, Tuesday, April 23, 19851 Vaisakha 3, 1907 (Saka) COLUMNS Welcome tn the Delegation of the Forei~n Affairs Committee of Finnish Parliament 1-- ~ Oral Answers to Quesitons : *Starred Questions Nos. 547, 54R, 550, 552. 553 and 559 to 561 6- 33 Written Aswers to Questions: Starred Questions Nos. 549, 551, 554, 559 to .558 and 562 to 566 33-42 Unstlrn'd Questions Nos. 3996 to 4038, 4040 to 4044. 4046 to 4094, 4096 to 4107 4109,4111 to 4114 and 4116 to 4145 42-238 Papers Laid on the Table 243-245 Calling Attention to Matter of UrgeD Public Importance 251-280 Reported death of many Adivasis and injuries to others as a result of firing by Po ice in Sahebganj district, Bihar Sbri Harisb Rawat 251-1'9 *The sign + marked above the lI.lme of a Member indicates that tbe question was actually asked on tho floor of the House by that Member. ( i ) COLUMNS Shri S. B. Chavan 259-260 Shri Zainu1 Basher 260-265 Shri C. Madbav Reddy 268-272 Shri Dbaram Pal Singh Malik 272-274 Shri Piyus Tiraky 274-2i10 Business Advisory Comrnittee- Sixth RepNt 281 Matters Under Rule 377- 281-28 P (i) Need for construction of National Highway from Gopalpur to Orissa border near Kharien Road Railway Station cODnecting National High WilY No. 6 at Raipur in M.P. Shri Jagannath Pattnaik 281-=~2 (iii) Demand for construction of a railway bridge over the river Saryu and to convert the t-v'L:Dskpur- Ailahabad rail line into a main line Shri Nirmal Khatri 282-28~ (iii) Need to star: construction of the proposed Mat hura- Alwar Railw:'y line immediately and from the Alwu Town Shri Ram Singh Yadav 283-284 (iv) Need to launch a special drive to clear all pending ease!> for sane; ion of pension to certain waiting free- dom fighters Prof. Narain Chand Parashar (v) Need to set up a fishing harbour at Paradeep with. out further delay Sbrimati Jayanti Patnaik 284-285 ( ii ) COLUMNS (vi) Need -to declare birthday of Jaga Jyoti Basaveswara a Notional holiday and instal his statue in front of Parliament Heuse Sbri G. S. Basavaraj 285-286 (vii) Need to allocate more railway wagons for move- ment of steel material to Coimbatore daily Shri N. Soundararajan 286-287 (viii) Need to direct Archaeology Department to take over Shanti Grama Temples in r Hassan district of Karnataka Dr. V. Veokatesh 287-288 (ix) Need to arrange adequate l>UppJy of Diesel to Gorakbpur district for uSe of agriculturists Sbri Mahabir Prasad 288 Demands for Grants (Genera!), 1985-86-Contd, 289-370 Ministry of Comrnuoication- Shri Vijaya Rama Rao 293-297 Prof. Narain Chand Parashar 297-305 Shri Chintama i Panigrahi 305-31 J Shri P. Se)vendran 3Jl- 315 Sbri P. R. S. Venkatesh 315-318 Shri Narain Choubcy 318-322 Shri Ram Singh Yadav 322-327 Shrimati Oil Kumari Bhandari 327-329 Shri MooI Chand Daga 329-332 Shri Suresh Kurup 332-336 Sbri Girdbari LaI Vyas ... 336-339 ( iii ) Shr i D. N. Reddy 339-34j Shri T. V. Chandrasekhar&r .... 343-345 Shri V. S. Krishna Iyer 345-349 Shri R. S. Khirhar 349-3S0 Shri Ram Niwas Mirdba 351-370 Statement on Ahmedabad Riots 371-384 Demands for Grants (General), • 98S·86 - COflfd. 3~4-402 Ministry of Defence (Not concluded) Shri Ajay Musbaran 389-402 Sbri Sbantaram Naik 402 ( ... ) LOK SABRA DEBATES 1 2 LOK SABRA PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : Under rule 388, I have given a notice for the suspension of Question Hour • . Tuesday, April 23, 1985/Vaisakha MR. SPEAKER: I did not allow it. 3, 1907 (SAKA\ PROF. MADHU DANDAVAl'E The Lok Sabha met at Eleven of I will quote the precedents. the Clock. (Translation] MR. SPEAKER: If you Would have [MR. SPEAKER in the Chair] come yesterday. it would have auto- matically been suspended. WELCOME TO THE DELEGATiON [English] OF THE FOREIGN AFFAIRS COMMITTEE OF FINNISH PARLIA- PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE MENT I will quote. [English] MR. SPEAKER : I know, there are . certain precedents. But we are going to MR. SPEAKER: Honourable Mem- have after ...... bers, at the ou tset, I have to make an announcement. PROF. MADHU DANDA VA TE : Earlier when there was a massacre in On my own behalf and on behalf of Assam, you had allowed me to raise a the Hon'ble Members of the House, I discussion. have great pleasure ill welcoming Hon. Mr. Par Steoback, M. P., Vice-Chair- MR. SPEAKER Tbis is not a man of the Foreign Affairs Committee massacre. of Finnish Parliament and other Honour- able Members of their delegation who PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE are on a visi t to Ind ia. Earlier, you had suspended tbe question Hour and allowed a discussion under rule 193. (Interruptions). The situation They arrived here yesterday evening. in Abemadabad is serious and tbe Army They are now seated in the Special Box. bas taken over ... We wish them a happy and fruitful stay in our country. Through them we con- MR. SPEAKER: Look bere, Pro· vey our greetings and best wishes to the fes80r. On tbe agenda today, tbere is Parliament, Government and the a statement by tbe Hon. Home Minister. friendly people of Finland. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATB PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: For your information, it is not tbere. Mr. Speaker, Sir, please ...... MR. SPEAKER: What happened AN HON. MEMBER: We want to Sir ? have a discussion. 3 Welcome to De/egation APRIL 23; 1985 Welcome to Delegation 4 SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA (Basirhat): MR. SPEAKER: We will see. Yesterday, there was an indication that Whatever it is, we will dISCUSS. After the statement would be made. It has tbe statement is made, we will see what not been made. can be done. MR. SPEAKER: It will come. I PROF. MADHU DANDA VATE : have asked them to make a statement. I firmly stand for reservations; I am committed to reservations. But SHRIINDRAJIT GUPTA: It is a violence cannot be permitted. I am very serious matter. referring to the police violence. These are criminals in uniforms .. (/nterrup. lions). MR. SPEAKER: We shall consider it after the statement. MR. SPEAKER : Please don't try to deride anything. (Interruptions) SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: You shou ld a How a special discussio~ un~er adjournment-motion or somethlDg like SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: We appreciate very much the remarks you that. made yesterday from the. Chair regard- ing the need for everybody to abhor PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: violent methods. We would like to Yesterday, the Minister announced that know, how after the High Court has he would make a statement. On the ordered a probe into the excesses of the List of Business, there is no mention police, even after that, the police are of that at all. I carefully W601 through allowed to have a free CUD •• • (Interrup- I't . There is no mention at all. tions). THE MINISTER OF STATE IN MR. SPEAKER We shall see THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS after the statement is made. Shri (SHRIMATI RAM DULARI SINHA): K~mmodilal Jatav. He is going to make it today. PRqF. MADHU DANDAVA TE : At SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA At least at 12 O'clock, you consider what time? an adjournment motion to be moved in the House ..• (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: rt will be today. Don't worry. It)ViII com':!. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: We have given notices of adjournment PROF MADHN DANDAVATE: motions. Do you realise the seriousness of the situation? MR. SPEAKER I have got no promise3 to give. I will just listen MR. SPEAKER: ThJ.t is why I to the statement and decide. have asked bim to do it. We will discuss it later on. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE Even then, this becomes a subiect- PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: matter of an adjournment motion ... The Police Commissioner called the (Interruptions) Leader of the House in the legislature for a dicussion and his car was burnt MR. SPEAKER: Sbri Kamm9dilal by uniformed policemen. This is what Jatav. Is he there? is happening in Gujarat. Women are 'molested; arson is going on •.• PROF. K.K. TEWARY Sir. (I/Jterruptions) there was a similar situation in Tripura 5 Welcome to Delegation VAISAKHA 3, 1907 (SAKA) and we were demanding a discussion to what comes to my mind. I have to on it. Defence personnel were killed decide according to given situations. in Tripura. This was oot allowed. Whatever I decide is according 10 given Now, they are trying to disturb the situations •.•(/nterruptions) Question Hour .. ;(/nterruptlons) I know about Tripura; I know PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE): about West Bengal; I know every- Mr. Tewary. you yourself were for a thing ... (lflterruptions) Mr. Tewary. will discussion 00 21st February. 1983; you not allow the House to run? I it is on record ... (Interruptions) do not like this. (Interruptions) (Interruptions)" MR. SPEAKER: Not allowed. MR. SPEAKER: I do not allow (Interruptions)· anything 00 record. It is "my discre- tion whether I allow it or not. There MR. SPEAKER: All of you are precedents when I have done it. pkase bit down; please take your There are precedents when I have not seats. I have to judge it myself.