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TO9INoF coLoNIE I ttlE "ttoatPLANNING BOARD rr*r*;rifi* ll*lrrt' 1

In thc Matter I -o!- { the !leeting to consider a Public tnEor[ation Inpact o"tttii" invironnental Airport Area Draf,t 6 Sta!enent ' lt * t I r ir I I tl l* r tt I I *l* r r I t t* *l *li t llr

HcEor ia I Town HalI I noute 9 lork clltonv i l1e, Neu 9 October 2, 1990 l0 7r00 P.B.

PRESIDtNG: t2 Chairnan PETER E' PLI?T' Board---- ro!'n of iranninq 13 ""iiii! l4 PLANNING BOARDI

bII LLI AI.I TIERIIAN if CEORGE NOAINSON LO ITOLLIND L1 GEORGE HASSIUILLIAN 18 DOI.IINIC S gEEIIAN 19 'I1.IES O'BRIEN 20 DANIEL

CON 5T' Lt ANTS ' uo$;rEl*:3i[^'33ii^lFii'* ""o ^i NOODS LANRY CTLLANDER 23 LARNY PETER FI tTIt

PaULtsE F-. litLt.lx^-l Rtto''tli C zfrtlrrEo srroi'tr'^!'D 1 PR OCEE DINGS

2 MR' PLAT! r ne would I ike to

to thank everYone f or co[in9. I trould Iike

{ describe briefly to peoPIe hor the !ornat is

f, beinE run '

5 George Holland has to read tuo

LcgaI notices that ec have to 9ct into the

I record. After that, Peter conray and his staff give a fron clough, Harbour & As3ociatcs sill

briet pres entati on conccrning thc DEIS

docunent. Af ter that, the board rill cone bacL

L2 up herc. and re'Il cntertai n gucstions f rotr ue 13 anyone and everyone in the aud i€ncc and hopc

can ansrer thcI to yout !atisf action ' l5 HR. HOLLAND| "Public Inlorration to eating Notice, Planning Borrd, Torn o! Col'oni.e'

is AIbany County, NGiJ tork . Publ ic noticc ls hcr.by givcn that thc Torn of colonie Planning

19 Board tfilI conduct a Public lnfot[ation'l

20 recting on the 2nd of Octobcr 199 0 at 7r00 9,r. Nectonville' at thc Melorial Toun tlall, Route 9'

Ner, Yotk, f,or th. purpore oe prasenting thc z3 rport Area Draft Gencric Environlcntal InPact

PAaiLt._ E E. wrlLtlar..i CEFarFrsD s|.orltra^-iD RltorrEa I Statenent. All parties of interest rnd citi2cns

2 uill be gi.vcn an opportunity to bc heard uith

3 rcspect to this docunent. Dated SePte!b.t 22,

4 1990, tot{n of colonie Pl.anning Boa!d, Peter E.

PIatt, chair!lan. - tni s notice apPGared as a

6 leqal. .dvertisnent in both the cazette and the

Ti nes Union on SePtenber 22.

I Thi3 one. 'PubIic In!orEational

9 Meati.ng Notic e, town of Colonic Planning Board,

:n on the tirport Area Ceneric Environrental I[pact

1t statetrent, The Tot{n of colonie Plannlng Board

iril. I conduct a public !ational Ieeting on

13 Tuesday, Octobcr ?, L990. at 7 !00 P'n' at

MeIoriaI Town tla1I, Route 9, Nerrtonville in thc

large hearing roon. The Purgo3e o! this PubI ic to intortrational recting is to praEcnt thc draft l7 cDvlrontcnta I lrpact ! tatcrcnt for the airPort t8 rrca aDd hcar any gucation3 or corrrntr that the ' 19 DubIic nay have r{ith rGJp€ct to this docur'nt

Colries of the docuuent are avaiLable !or rcvi cr,

at the Toen oC colonie li'brary, the tol,n of 22 Colonic lorrn Cl.erk's ofClce, the TotJn ot Colonia

23 Engine.ring end. Planning Scrvicat DcPartr'nt,

P^cLr--e E. Wtt.ult^s cErtr?l Eo s|.oll!r|.-rrD Rlloatlr I the Vitlage of Colonic Town tlalI, and the AIbany

County Planning Departnant, For Eurther

infor[ation, you 3ay contact thc To!|n of colonie

{ Enginecring and Planning Serviccs DePartnent at

{82-0248.' Thi3 aDDcar.i ." di s Play " advertlrnent in the Saturday, Septcnbct 22, rnd

7 niedne3day, scPtenber 26, editlons o€ the ei nc3 rt I Eig! and the Ej-l-y-g.L3.g!!g in schencctadv' oC ) al.so appear.d in thc S.PteEber 26th cdition

10 the sDotliqht. l1 tlr. ChairEan.

R. PLATT: Tith tha-t, r{e sl11

oE clough ' IJ turn the neeting ovcr to Petcr conuay

Harbour E l3sociatca.

15 MR. COlf9|AYr lhank you cood t5 cvcning t7 ls Chairran Plrtt indlcatcd, !y l8 nale ir Pctcr Conray stth Clough, tlarbour t to Associatca, an cngtnGaring and Planninq f ir!,

20 here in AlbanY, Ncu Iork ' ,'r Th. 9ur:pose of tonight's public j'3 'tt infor[.tional !ccting to Prcaent thc l!,banY

23 li rport lre a ccncric Envl.ronrcntal IIpac t

PArjLti- E E. WTLLIH^x Carrtrr!D Sr|orrr|rYD RlrortEl bo ur r ovGrview)

I State0ent.

2 Over the last ten years, the area

rjhich is being addres 3 cd in thc aeneric

4 cnvitonnental inpact statcnent has experienced

5 signif icant Prc s s urG for groeth and

6 developnenl. Real iz ing that cffortr had to be

1 nade to cvaluate this grouth and cstablishj'ng a

I plan to effectivcly nltigate the itrpactc

9 associated ttith thi3 grouth, a cooperativc t0 cffort batt{cen llbany County, thr Torn of lt Colonie and th. Uillaq€ of colonie sts T2 initiated.

13 the target rrea, ehich is on this

14 ovcrhcad exhibit here, i3 general Iy bordered by l5 thc l.loha!.k River, Nca Karncr Roed, thc village

16 and tosn truniciPal boundari.s, Srnd Crc'& Road,

lilert[an Lanc, thc llorthsay, and Forts Ferry lt Road, !t sas agrccd by alI the runicigalitias t9 -- bcing tlbany County, th. toen o! Colonie and zo thc village of colonic -- that r cotPrehenrivc zl approach in addrcasing thc Erotdth ln this area 22 through the prcparrtlon ot a draft gGnsric

23 cnvironrcntal irpact !taterent sar thc be!t and

P^rjr-ri..E E. wt!.ux^r ('!rrrFr!D sr|oFrrr^.YD FEtox?ti tcloudh, tlarbour r OvarvieH) 6 ! I proper a9proacn,

2 Thc three bencfit3 ol prcparing a

5 draft genaric environD€ntal ilPact staterent are

4 as f olloe! !

It al lour for culu liti v. anrlyris of

a nuFcrous projccts bGfore lunicipallties i'ithin

7 dcfincd arca ;

I It altous for tha rnalys i s oC undevelopcd

grouth; 9 land uithin an araa batcd on rcalonablc l0 and

It It also grovides a rechani3! for as3igning

LZ capital co3ts for ncedcd ilDrov.nent3 on a ba3i's '| 'r for currcnt and futute projects uithin a defined

here I'l arca, especially thc area !fc are di3cuasing

r5 tonight.

16 Brlclly, hor, did re gct to sher.

17 rc arc today?

IA Ondar the SEQRA procc!r, tha Toun l9 o! Colonie ra3 dcsignrt.d lcral aqrncy October

20 24, 1989. lftcr thrt, r rerica o! scoping -- of ?l 3cssions scrc held one r'ith thc Torn z2 colonie, thc vlllagc o! colonic and Albany

23 county; one eith thr lnvolvsd agencies ruch as

P^rju;...E E. wt!.ux^-s C!i?trt!D Sl|orlB^-rD RltoirEn 'I Ne!, lork State DOT, Environnental Conservation;

and thr qeneral public. A dralt cEIS |,as then

Prepared and accepted by the Planning Board on

Septetnber 4, f990. So, c-ssentially, ee. re at

5 this point right nou in thc process ehcre ue are

6 soliciting input fron th. publ ic on thr draf t

generic cnvironnen ta I iaPac t s tatcrcnt.

I the purpo3e of our pre!entation

9 tonight is to givc a btief overvlct of thc

l0 project. As you can !ee, it's a corprehcnsivc

tl docuBent. and uc'd like to highlight sorc of the t2 oa jor isruca in the docu[cnt as thcy relatc to

13 i n fras truc ture, traffic and capital

I4 inprovenents , tnd, basically, the staff tonight

15 eill, pr.scnt that in an overvlct{ !ornat.

lb I rould like to !trcss that uhat

L7 nill bc prcs cntcd herc tonight i ndi ca trs tho3.

'tc iIproverentr that uould be nacessary i! groeth

l9 sare to continue in thit arca of tha toun' So I

20 would like to strc!r that thir is a draft

2l gcncric envlronncntal i npact t tt tcrcnt. It's 22 not tha cnd of thc proccas. 9le'rc hcrc tonight

?3: to solicit cortentr on thc dralt g.n.rlc i

P^a:Lri-E E llit.!|x^x Caratr! ao srforl?n^.so RrrottEi ovFrvi 'Lr) F f el Frrgh Hr"'h^lrt' I ' and that the i I inPact statclent' "nuitonIental conients raised hcrc tonight t''ill be a'ldrcas'd irPect' 3 in a final gcneric cnvironlGntal

I statenent.

the !oriat for tonight's !ceting' is that each !eib€r o as Chair[an Platt indicated' uill' 7 of staff irho I uill introduce in a ninute gcn'rlc pre3ent their rection o! thc draft

9 environnental ilPact ttatcDent ' Larry IcEt' sill Pr'!ent 10 call,and€r, to !y i[!cdiatc

'lt land u3e and Qnv!ro$t€ntaI issucc' John Frazar uill uill prcsent utilitica ' Pcter Faith

11 presently transPortation and traffic rclated thc i33ucs' Irnd Larry noodr uill PreEcnt and acononlc itrPacts a3rociated iJith the Project rc do h'vc a nulbcr t5 givc a brIG! surrary' Ind l7 of cxhlbits through rlidc PrGtcntatloo and thc brcl' 18 ovc!hcadt as rrcll a! Gxhibits in

tq tnd rtth that, I rould llkc to

20 introducc Larry Callander' HR' CTLLANDER! lhank You, by th' eounty' thc z2 Pctcr. Bh.n r. r''cte rctrincd to Gvaluatc 23 vlllage and thc tosn, thcy eskcd u!

P^rt.ar.-.rl E. wtLl.lla^i- Ccrrrrr zD Sr|ottr^r.D Rttortti devel opnent o ver a 15-year Period. That througL 2 analysis bas ical ly carried u3 frotr 1990

J the year 2005. There ser e a nutbc! ol f actors arca. Next 4 contributing to Itosth in thc atudy

5 slidc.

5 There arr ovcr 60 Projects that Iage are currEntL y bcforc the tocn and vil

E plann tng bo.rds -- can anybody 9et this light

9 here, by anY chance?

10 I t ill love on anYrraY

11 Ersentially, thore groJGcts lncIudGd rGsidQntial t2 developtrent of ovcr 800 dHel L ing units and gquare of conne!cial l3 addi tional 2'3 !illion feet 14 developDent. This included lndustrlal, rctall, scveral 15 and ofticc dcvclo9rcnt. Also s' had to rcctlngs t,ith local d.vcloParE, and rc !eet 17 tderltiftcat an adalltional 1'9 rillion square

18 o! devcloplcnt.

l9 Did anyone g€t thc 1i9ht3 Yct? z0 The rc'tings sith dcveloPcrs

1L indicateat therc rould bc en additional 1.9

22 !llIion tguarc f.ct o! additionrl dGvcloprcnt

23 shich right occur bctracn thc years 1990 and

P^att.tlsE E. wl'.t.t!.as C!rrr"rEa s||ortt|^.'aD Rltotlla 1995. In additlon, there eerc ovcr 3300 acr€s

2 o! land ulthln the study area that sas

a undcvelopcd, and this corptis.d approxinately 39

4 pcrcent o! the total land area in the ttudy

f araa.

o Also the Cagi tal District

7 TransPortatlon Co[nittec undcrtook sGveral

I tran3portation studles ln the 9lolf, Road anal grorth 9 airport areas .nd idcnttCicd signiticant l0 that !|as likcly to occur and also idcntificd

transportation dcELciencic3 trithln this araa --

t{i thi n thosa tuo area!. r3 In addition, various !tudi.es and l4 rcports on the llbany County lirport indicat.d t5 that cnplaneIcnts ilould atouble by thc ycar 2005' l6 As a rarult of thi! lnitial l7 study, rc conductsd, !irtt, land-u3' analysis

IE ehlch r€ cell.d, 'fhc high grorth !uturc ' l9 davclop!€nt s cenario. Thlr r cenrrio cons idercd

bullal out of rort o! thc avai labls land nithin zoning 2r thc ttudy ar.a. ft rls barcd on Gxisting 22 but didn't lnclude ccrtain lands. ccrtain Irndg

23 lnclud.d a! conrider.d bGing rcadily

P^rusE E. wtLLtla^-- ('rrrrrrrD sr|oi.rBaYD Rttott!n 1 devel opabl e lands. That i nc I uded !|etlands, the

Ann Lee Pond Nature and Historic Presarve as

'l exanples, a3 srll as 3€veral active farnlands'

4 ceneteri es !rithin the s t::y area, Shaker Rldge

5 and tliII Road Gol! Courses. tlhat !rere includcd

6 in this high groHth analysis, hoeevcr, !|ere all

the current projects bcfore the toUn ind vi l Iagc

I planning boards as ueI I as the i nput obtalncd

9 fron Loca l developers and landouncr! uho hcld

10 over five acrer of property sithin the rtudy lt area.

In ad.alition, !re inclualcd the high

13 growth I and use futurc a3 outl ined by the

CaDi tal District frans gortation Cotrri ttee in

their 'Alrport and tlol f Rord" studies. t6 Basically, the connitt.c ot CDTC in coopcration t? rith the lles Iork Stat€ Dof attd thG CaPita.l

18 Di3trict transBortation Authorlty l! responsible

19 for carrying out tha contlnucd and co!prehcnsivc

20 transportation plannlnE process !or thc Crpital

2r District reqioni and thc aen.ral t tudica ehich 22 thry developed on thc nolf Roaal and thc rlrport

23 arca ecrc rclicd uPon, in Part, lot our grorth

Pa,r'lrse E. ra*t!!l:,.^N Cairttr ao Srroirr.r\D Rrroi?!r generi'e 1 I projections dcv€loped in the draft I environrcntal irpact statetrnt.

It t.e could go to the ncxt

{ s I lde.

Essentially, the hlgh grolrth

6 future Iookcd Iikc this. 9lc uere Iooking at the

7 developnent o€ over 2000 hous i ng units in the

I study area, an addi t ional 1.5 rlll'Ion

9 enplancIents at Albany County Airport, and total

co![erc ial develoP!cnt o! over l2'7 [tlIion l1 square fe.t. ls you cln 3ce !ror that anal'y!i!, t2 the bi9 contributor 1n collcrc la I dcveloptr'nt

Has !or o!!ice spacc uithln the ttudy area. j'dared This 3tualy ar:a ras cont but ras rcjectcd

as not belng realistlc rnd bcing too aggr.ssive

16 in terrs o! thc a!ount of cconoric dGveloprent

that Has t ikcly to occur throughout the crPital

18 Di!trict ovcr th. l5-yGrr Planning Dcrloal.

In light of that, se bcaan to

20 undertake a racond land urG analYtis !'hich 2L conr idcred I igniIicantly less devcl.opient dur i ng

2,2 thc planning p.!iod than the high grorth

z3 futurc. fle terEcd this the 'targct grouth

PArit.rri E E. wtLt.tla^'i- C!ttttr zD sHoRTrtrYD Rl?'oitrr nd Use t gnvironncnt)

developnent scenario.' If you go to the nex!

2 slide. Targct grosth sCenario looked at at a total anount o! re3 idential devclopncnt 1' 5 5 just under l6o0 dt cltlng units ' Again y the airPort ' But onl 6 nillion enplaneleIrts at

?,3 nillion !quar€ !eet oE colnercial Iess than the h igh tt dcveloPnent. significantly projected 9 grouth future. This analy!ir ras thc uhich all our irPacts 10 Icvcl of dcveloPrant in based on tt and Sugqested nltigation lcasutes sete

1't in the draft docunent ' I uould 13 Next' fhe next s'ction scction on deIograPhicr 14 like to discusr is thc poPulation l5 to givc you sore ialca ot rhat thc thc ttudy arca ln thc 16 lcv.l5 rrould look at in rc It tosn during that Petiod' Er!entl'lly' cstirated Population 18 catirated in 1989 the

19 sithin th. study alca $a! Just ovrr 8'000 ts that nurbcr of housing uni 20 Deopl e. The total i3 axist Hithi n the t tudy atea rt this tire Bated on tha targct grovth 22 approxinatcly 3100. gopulatloa in tht 23 future, ire'd bc lookinE at

P^ulrs-t E. wtt.t.tr^F cztrttlED sl.oLtl|rsD Rrloilr!n I yeat 2005 at over 12,000 pcople, a 50 percent

2 increase. The total nurbcr of d.sel!ing units

uould lncrcare up to about 4700 units. On a

4 tol{nridc lcvel, ee crtlnated thc population in

5 1989 to be approxllately ,r,OOO in the Toun of

6 col.onic, including the vilIages. gy the ycar

2005. that population rrould re.ch ncarly 100,000

people ln the toxn,

9 l|cxt rcctlon, .Vegetation, lu nildlife, and Aguatic Eco.l,ogy.' one ol thc

1l initial activltics i|e undertook eas an t2 eva luation o! thc existing vegetativc

13 coInunitics ln the study arca. ts you can see l4 fron this cxhibit. thcre arc aigni!icant areas

wlthin th. study arca that rtill conrirts of

15 !orcrtLand and alto r grc.t dcal o! opcn !iald3, t7 basically inrctive rglicultural fi.ldr rnal

18 actl.vr agrlcultural lendt cithin tha ttudY l9 area. Under thc target grosth d.cvcloprcnt

20 sccnarlo, ba3icatly thrt Projcctcd fcval uould

2I Icad to the dcv.Ioprcnt ot ovcr lI0O lcrcs of,

22 undevclopcd ltnd in thc atudy area, and that ' 23 consirtr of about 3,0 perccnt oE the retaining i

P^ct.rsE E. W!L!t!a^!- C!itrrrtD Sxorrl|rsD R!rorrGr. onlent

1 available opcn space Hithin that area ,

I nunber of ni!igation neas urcs

I have been suggested in the draft generic

cnvironrenta I i.pact 3 tatencnt to lrs r cn the

inpact of developIent. lhc rost significant

ncacure calls for th. cr tabl ia hlcnt o! green

7 belt arcas to !aintain cx i s ting vegetative

6 characteristict '

9 ?o give you soie idea oE shat l0 that looks I ikc, bas ically rre identificd three

prinary graen belt areas !or devcloPrcnt ' thir lz included the arcas surrounding lnn Lce Pond ovcr

13 to sturp Pond and carrying up through in the vly gracn l4 Road corridor. That tjould b. the largest

15 be 1t area proBoscd. DavGloprcnt of a 3rcond,

t6 green belt araa adJacent to thc l'lohark Rivcr,

t7 and anoth€r grcen bel,t arca .located ea3t of the

18 airport along a tributary o! shaker.cleck around

I9 the 9lade Road araa , 've 20 In addi tton, f also included

the cxisting tocn uatcr course Protcct ion araag 22 that are highl ightcd in blue. lhi! i3 in

z5 cxisting toun legi tlation rrhich protcc t3 100

P,rcr-rr- g E. llltl.l.tlaalr C"''tt tt aD srrorrr|AsD Rtloi?tt ronrent

I feet on ci ther tide of existj'ng uater cou!3cs

r{hera no di3 turbance i3 alloued to occur.

3 various techniques coul.d be

{ enploycd to establish thcac Erean brlts, on' of

l thrn belng the .3tabltshr.nt of a larlland and

6 ogen spacc conscrvation district. aDother neans

of catabli3hing these glcen belts could bc

oE tt through the outright Public acqui s i tion

, proPcrty. And a third such technique that ljas l0 suggc!tcd in the docu[rnt includcd the

I1 establishrcnt of a 'Transfer and DeveloPnent

1? Rights Progra[, ' rnfch rrouI d rncourage the ta prcacrvation of land by allorring landouners to

14 trans€er their dev€i'oPrGnt riqhts fro! l'nd l5 rJhich thcy orn in thc atudy atea to Potribly l6 othcr Patccls rithin the toun' 17 Ncxt tliilG. Noe, I uould lil.e to l8 take a !inutc to discutt thc hydrologY, : l9 drain.gc, and rat.r guality rection. this

shoer thc cxi3ting drrinagc 20 overhcad "cas 2L Hithin the airport study area. Thsy includc -- E0 2Z tha prirary area rrhich includaE about Pcrccnt z3 of the rtudy a!aa ls thc Shak€r Crc.k drainage

P.rclr-- E E. wt!!!!.^i- C E R.rrrrnD snoitra!{D Rrto}t!n nvironncnt

1 bas in, shlch includes Albany Airport anal

z prinarily the najority oE the !ands e'ithin the 3 study area. To quantify the anount oE runoff

4 fror projacted devclopf,e t under the target

5 grosth scenario, the U,s. oepartrent of

6 Aqriculture Soil Conscrvation Servicc conPutcl

nodcLs Here ulcd to calculate the Prc- and Post- !'ithin FI developnent runot f !or each drainage area

9 the study boundary, the !aior lnBact, of

course, sould be on the shaker Cre'k drainage

a!ea . It is, certainly, the Largcat rrithin the

ttudy area, and lort devcloPrcnt as a fesult

13 Uill. occur in that area. t{ l.{itlgation lncludca the continue'l t5 iIpIeIentation of !torr uattr ranagencnt the l6 guidclines shich have b!aD ca tabl ithed by

77 tosn. It eas also recollended that on-rita

IE dctention and retention of rtorlratcr bc

19 requircd on a 3l tc-by-! i te basls rathcr than an

storlrater 20 iopl€!cntation o! any ccntralizGd

ryster, Anal that Is prinarily duc to the

physical naturc of Shalcr Cr.ck and th' Iayout

23 o! thc drrinagc ba!in. Thlr eould rcln that all

P^r:Ll:aE E !ttlllv^:. CERTrrr?o sao'ir|.lYD Rttot,llf, tica

I stornuater ranage[ent llproveIents rould be

z undertakcn at the tirc an lndlvidual Droject rras

conrtructcd in order to !itlgate the j.lpact3 of

{ addl tional stornPAter lunof,!.

5 f could nou llke to turn ovcr at

6 this tloint to John Frazcr, rho rlll revLas thc 7 tection on utilitlcr.

I nn. FBAZER! Thank you, LarrY

9 Our cvaluati on of utiliticr

10 includ.d a rtudy of !ive difEerent utiliti€s

1t Next slide, plea3e. t2 Thcy include elcctric, gas,

t3 telephone, uater and 3anitary sescr. prov iding l4 these services to thc ttudy area includc! For

'E clcctrie, Niagara llohack Porer Corporation ; al!o t4 !or gas, Nlagara uoharL; talaphonc !crvlcc is

l', providcd by the Ncs lork lclcphona Corpany l8 t{atcr i! provialGd by tco .ntltl.cs. thc la jority

19 of the rtudy area r..t.r is provldcd by the

20 Lathar glater District, and a r!all Portion o! th. study-arca satar dcland is let by the

22 village of Colonir' Sanltary tGUcf is Providcd

In th. rajorlty of thc study arca by tha Tosn of

P^r.;Lr!.r E. wrr.t,tx^s- Caffi rraD S|rorrr|a.*D R!toit!i : Utilities 19

Colonie Pure lilaters Departnent ' Al so providing Dl s trict an'l servi ce is the f,lbany county s eset

3 the vi I lage o! colonie. first' a 4 our cvatuation i'nctudcd'

5 Ietter to .ach agency Oescribi'ng the Project in thc 6 not too nuch detail but enough to introduce

7 personnel revi.e!ring lt to thc atudy arca' ll!o r'hich 8 includ.ed uas a rcquest for infornation'

9 included any existing na99i ng, facilities a3 rcll as l0 oapping that thcy could Provide u3 t1 input as to the inProvcnGnts that roul'd be in thc ttudy t2 required a3 a rc!ult of the grouth

t1 area.

t{ Follouing that lettcr Uould' bc a

15 ncctl ng in rrhich ue di 3cu33 cd ei th spccl!ic

15 pcrtonnel tithin cach aqcncy thc cxt'stlng that t1 facllities and thG irPrcts lD ro!c dctail

t8 thc rtudy arca grosth eould hrvc on.ach

lcctlnq sar to t9 utility. the r.aI DurPo3c of thc

20 gct a corritrcnt fro! cach utillty cntity' 9lhat by 2l gc did i3, s. tooL thc infot'atlon Providcd 22 the gcrsonnel of aach agGncy and a!3crbl'ad that

into thc GEIS and Prasentcd it in the rtudy'

P^sltxE E wtlLl!'a^-- ct i,rttt !D s||oitra^-{D Rttotllt 'I N€xt s I ide, PIcase. Based

conversations t{lth each cntity, rrc cane up rith

3 the requircd iDprove|rents under cach. As re can

4 sce !ron the tllale, ttr't,t.. rlcctric, ga3, and . 5 teleDhone, no i.!trovelcnt3 are ragulred' aherc

t| agencies provide the nccassary caPacity to reet

any dcnand, and thG costs f,or thc!e ilProvcIents

I are siDply pas!cd on to the user base as i5

9 curtentlY the casc.

13 l,e IOVA On tO eater, ee can

see that thc ilProvclants ara subttantj'a1'

L2 Ifiprove cnts includc aupply trcrtrcnt and t3 !il.tration ltr9rovetrantr i pu[9ing inProvencnts i t4 storage, trans!is3ion, dist!ibution t< iIprovencnts' For cxarplc, looking at the !ap

15 herc, shich it a rap !houlng thc rxi!tiDE

!acilitica of thc Latha[ tsatGr Distrlct, re havc lo ldcntified -- and I'lI bc brict rith thcre -- a t9 !cu i!provcaantt.

?0 Pi rs t, undar JupDly, t!catrcnt and

fil,tration, ilProvcrcnts to thc l'lohark

Filtration Plant, including irprovercnts to the z7 intake ! truc turr thcrc '

P^r:Llsr E. wrt.ltlaai- C lirrrrrD sroFt!|^-sD Ratotr!n I AIso, punpi.ng inprovenents requirc, Cor

exarple, a punping s tation in the airport area

I aLong vIy Road to providc j.ncraa3ed greasure to

4 the higher portions of the torrn in this lrca,

llso storagc. In tho sarc area, a 5O0,oOO

5 9allon storage tank in the Vly Road area eest o!

7 Denison Road to provide storage to th€ 3ane high

I areas of the toun.

9 Transiission inprovarcnts include, lor l0 exanple, replacenent of a 10-inch .ain ai.ong old

!t r|olf Road eith a l5-inch rain t2 lnd roving on to distributj.on rhich

distribution/transt!it!ion. lilhen you cons idcr l4 distribution? it reans a lore specialized , tore t5 specific area shich is irprovcd, -- shlch l5 raalizca inproved scrvlca d,ue to thL3 l7 iIprovarent. Those arc sraller diarcter !ains.

18 And that sould include, for cxatpl., sand. C!ccL

19 Road, rcplaccr€nt o! the .xitting 6-inch rain

20 eith a l2-inch dlarct.r irin.

2l Movlng on to sanitary 3cecr. thc 22 loun o! Colonle Purc natcr! DeDertrant has

23 indicatcd that .ach projcct l'! r.viet,.d on an

P^clrsE E. \l r Ll-r!t^x cEttttt!D Il|oG||lrD Rlfortti inatividual basis, and that any ritigation that

2 is requircd is passcd on to the developer of

that portioni therc!orc, no iBProvclents ara

4 requircd, The llbany County Seirer District and

f, thG vi I lage of colonie currently havG suff icient

facllities tn the areas lnclud.d in the study

area to provlde satis!actory scrvl'ce through the

n pl.anning peri od.

9 lnd r,lth that, I uould Iike to l0 turn the pratcntation ovcr to Pet.r Falth, rho

I1 !.11I aliscuss tran!portation rcquircrents oC the

L2 study,

n. FlfTHr Thank you, John.

I'lI rovc the NicroPhonc doHn to ly I.veI . 6lhat l5 I rould like to do f,lrrt Ir briefly 3urrarize

16 lJhet re dld as Dart ol thc tranrgortation

t7 inalyris.

l8 Obviour ly, ehcn you trlk about

19 dcvcloplcnt o! thi s anount, grantPortation is a

!aJor iIpact on hofl ruch traftlc is going to bc a1 addcd to the roadr.ay3 in thc area' crn

zz everybody h.ar !e? It thir okay? cxt rIidc,

23 plcase.

P.rr;u.- a E. wtr.r.t!l^.- ('! i.lttr eD sxoEtrl^.sD REroR.ttta (lran 3portation Analvsisl 23 r ri r llhen conducting a study of this :

2 typc, ehich is basically an itrpact stuaty, the

3 first task is to ldentify the existing

{ conditions on thc roadi.ays sithin thc area that

5 you are looking at. The next tasL is to davelop

6 sone type of teasonab!c proj€ction of uhat the

7 traf!ic level! rill be oncs you identify the

I land use that you are dealing eith. Thc next

9 steD is lo conduct an analysis of the future

10 cond,itions ehich uill te11 you if thc cxlsting l1 roadfay netlrork can accoanodate the ProJrcted l2 traff ic volunes, and, utuaIIy, the rxisting

13 road!ray netrrork can not accorDodate the

14 projecfed traffic volu.es 3o you identify rhat

15 itprovatrents rriII be rcquircd.

16 N.xt slidc, plcarc. ts far at

L7 idcntifying the Gxisting ttudy-area roadray3, iC

tt, ue can go back to our rtudy-rl.a !ap, thc area l'c 19 is scrv€d by a lot o! road3 ' For cxarple'

20 got an lntcrstatc higheay. Can I havc the ncxt

2L sllde, PIca!e. That i3 a 3llde, uhich is a 22 little dark, of the Northrray rhich is a linitcd

Z3 accers intcrsta!c lacillty. Next rl!d€. thrt

Pe,rr.tr..c E. \a'tt.rrY^i- C!titttrD sr|oirHA.tD R|!t,ort!i I is a slide of, Routc 7 rhich is cla!stfi€d as

2 principal arterial. l|cxt.

(Laughter. )

takc rt rrord for it, t think

that's Sand crcsk Road ehlch i3 clartttled as a

5 ninor arterial. Naxt slid€, pIee3e. That is

7 Hadc Road tthich is cla!rifled rs a collcctor'

I tde go to the ncxt sllde. I.n

9 sorry. can you back uP? I .n getting ahead o!

I0 trysall. ll For thele arca rolduays, tc

12 collccted . teries o! traflic counls. t lot o!

13 there sere provided by llbany County, A tot of l4 then scre provided by thc CaDitaI Dlrtrict

15 Tranrportation Co![ittce. I don't knor lf you

15 can sec aII thesc nulbers, but chat this !19urQ

!7 iIIu3tlata! !3 1990 cxlrtiDg tlaf,!ic volules on

18 the araa loadrayt thrt s€ analyzcd. thcy

19 illurtrete both thc drll,y volu!. and the pc.k

hour volurc, bcing the a! ternoon rtr00 to 5r00 cornutcr peri od,.

22 Jutt to give You a briaf ovarvicr

23 of the typca of traf,€ic ire'rc dealing rith, tf

P.rcr-rr" c E l^'t !!t !a^i- Czi-rrrr ED 5noRrrra3D R!roFr!ra 1 you Iook at Route 7 in the 9ladc Road area, ue're

talking about daily volunes in e xce! r of 30,000,

Deak hour voLuras of al[o!t {, 000. fl you look

4 at Albany-Shaker Road in the vicinity of Exlt {, ' J !re re talking about, aga'in, daily volunca of

6 35,000, peak hour volures of jus t under 3,OOO.

on sotre of thc le33er traveled

8 roads such as Sand Creek Road, !re're talking

9 about alaily volules of 16,000, peak hour volunes

10 of 1500; noI f noad, daily volurer cxce.d.ing

1t 40.000 and perk hour voluncs aPProachlng 3,000'

L2 This overlay identlfles thc tl existing highnay dcficicncies that rerc

identified due to the studies done by thc

15 Capital Dittrict lransportation Corlltt€e. Ag l6 you can !ca, thcre arc a J,ot of ther. lha !ost l7 notabl. def ic icnci cs are in thc vicinity o! t8 Routc 7 in the Exit 6 oade Road area; llbany- tq Shaler Roail 1n the vicinlty o! the nolf Road

20 Exit 4 rreai gtatervl.ict-Shater Road betrecn the

2L Exit 4 and rovlng to !he ea3t; and the nol f Road z2 area itself .

23 tlor if I can havc thc next

Prr,'LtrE E !t'rLt-tu,\s" a'!r?rtrED sr|o||rttlrsD R!!o*?En slide, lilhen you dcvelop traffic volure

z projections, !rhich is the next 3 tep in this

procera, there .is really tlro key areas oncc you

4 identify your tatgct land use. one i3 trlp

9 ganerati on, ehich bri€fly is an esti!ate of thc

6 anount of traffic that cach indivialual project

uill add to the roadeay nettjork. the n€xt step

I is to idcntiEy shcre this ner,r trafflc ls going

9 to bc coning fro[. And the last stap in the l0 procc!s is to assign this nen tra€!ic to the

II indivldual roads that you Ecel are 9oi ng to be t2 traveled on. l3 Next slide, please. This is a

14 sunnary of the additlonal tralfic that ee feel

is going to be aalded to the roadsays baEed on t5 the lcvel o! dcvcloDlant that rras ld.ntiEical in

17 thc targct grosth rccnarlo. A3 you can scc, the l8 land usc on thc 1..!t sialc o! thc slicle is the l9 sarG aa Larry Callandcr prasented prcviously,

20 the colurn in thc liddle ld.nti!ica thc

2L additional traffic volure in the nutber o! trips

22 tha! se catlrate t ill br generated by cach onc

23 of th.3c land u!e corponcnts. lnd the last

PAsLtriE E. r*-rLr.rr^\ CtrittrtD :\t.ortSa\o Rrro-tEt 1 colunn is just a percentage o€ the total neu

traf,f ic for eae h of these land use categories 30

you can get a feel of shtch of thesc lr going to

4 bc adclinq the Ios t traffic.

l lr you can 3ee doun at thc botto[

6 of the triddle coluIn, ue f e.l that alEost 21,000

ner{ peak -hour trips uill bc rdded. on the studv

I area roadrays due to this target grot.th

9 scenario. The [ajority of that tr:ffic ic going

t0 to be added by the office rpac€, irhj.ch is going

II to b. adding alroEt 60 Bercent of that total.

glhat this overhcad idcntlfies i3

t'l th€ direction that rlc fecl ro3 t of these trlps

r{ uill, be taking. I'11 takc it around the horn

l5 here. on the llorthuay to th. north o! the study

t6 area, ue tee]- 27 parccnt of there nse trlPs t{ill

be orLcnted. 5 pcrcent on Routc 2 to the sast

l8 of thc atudy arca. 3 pcrccnt on

19 Hatcrvlict-Shaker Road, 7 D.rcant on AIbany-

20 Shakc! Road. 3 Pcrccnt on Sand Crcak Road' 25

2l percent on the Northuay to thc touth. 7 perccnt

z2 on Ccntral Avcnue. 3 !,crcent on

23 natrrvlict-Shakcr Ro.d !ror thG cast lnd 7

P^uLti- E E. li r !!t!a^i.. Crr?rrr rD s!|oraB^.{D Rltorrlt na I ris

1 percent on Route 7 fron the ues t. Nor{, if

z anyboaly aatit.d thls uP quickly, this adds uP to

3 95 perccnt. the rcason lor that 1r ur fecl 5

4 perccnt of thc ncs traffic rrill rcaain eithin

l the rtudy arca ana not travcf bcyond it.

6 Ncxt sIlale' lilhat all this reant

is that treffic volune i3 golng to incrcase

n significantly, Chat thi s slide in thi s ov'rhead

9 attcnpts to prercnt i!, in as conci se f a8hl.on as

possiblc, the alount of traCtic -- thc alount of

11 thc incrca3e ot tra!!1c. I can't tcall.y re. t2 cone o! these nutbcr! all th. rly on thc IeCt, l3 but that idcntifies thc total grouth ln traffic

I4 over the 199O exi!ting condi ti on3 that sill bc

cxpectcd duc to the Iand use in thc target

Lt| gro iath rccnario.

11 I rcc rorc of the bigger arcas

18 that arc going to bc irPact€d lr. Route 7 on t9 rhich ec c xpcc t tratflc to Lncrcrsc 107 pcrccnt,

20 rhich !ean3 r orc than double. On tlbanY-ShrkGr Roed,, deDcDding on shcrc you arc, traftic j,t

22 goln9 to incrcl3 c bctuecn 3 anat 4 tirca. Dosn z3 on Oolf Road, He axpact traffic to i nc rca r.

Par:Lti- s E. wtLl.rxAli cE*TrrrED Sr|o..rl|^-rD Rttoirri l, again to lore than double. You can look at sore

of those o ther nuEbera.

This overhead is basically a

4 prc!entation of the sare inforration in a little

l differcnt fornati and as: you can 3ee, the shaded.

area3, it's kind of a urlghtgd averag., lf you

HilI, of the anount ol traCfic increas e that's

tt expected on cach one of these roaduays ' You can

9 see th. Hidth of the rhading in the l0 tlbany-Shaker Rord corridor in rrhich tratfic is

tt golng to incrcasc, again. 325 pcrcent, 250

t2 perccni, dcpending on rrhere you are,

llbany-Shaker Road next to Exit 4, ag.ln, ha!

slgnificant increases. Route 7, lLo pcrcent

incrcase, and 3o on.

IO [ext sIide. lhc naxt rtcp in thc

procers is to sonduct an analysic of the luture

1B conditions. l!t.r sc havc tdcnti!ical chrt the

l9 future traffic volu!er .rc, tha analyrlr of z0 !uturc conditiona i3 rGally donc rrith hlqbuay

capacity analyr is tcchniquar, and our goal rras

to eaintain rrhrt rc idcntify as a trrget level

23 ol rcrvicc, and I'll cxplrln i.hat a lcvcl of i I

P.\rLtr..E E. hLLtHA,.r. carrrrt!o saoGr||AsD natoitri t service is in a ninute. i Next ! I lde, p!.ease. That'g eh.rei

I ue are nol, 0le're conducting analYsis o! Euturei

4 conditions

5 N.xt !liati, nhat this is, this

6 is just a shot of thc tliqhsav caltacity lilanuat

rrhich presants the Proccdures vhich ve uscd to

I do thcac traffic anatyscs. lt's nat,ionall.y

9 !ecognizcd and, actually, it'3 PubLirhcd bY the

Transportation Re!carch Board o! thc Federal

tlighsay Ad!ini3trrtton, and it's the say that

L2 you analyze transDortation nccd5. l3 nhat thls exhibi.t chorJs i3 th. for the L4 geak-hour tra!!ic volulrr that rer€ uscd

anaIysi3. A9ain, lt uar a corpilation o! the

16 tre!Cic DroJection ta!k. ln thc D.al hour.

!7 volurer ln thc vicinity o! Route 7 in 2005 bascal l8 on the target grorth ,canario have incr€ased to

19 ovcr 7,000. fhc tloLf Road area has tncrcated to Road over {,000 Pcek hour triPs ' llbany-shakGr 2L cxcccding 9,000 trips. So you can I ee, thare

has bccn s ignl f Icrnt traflic volunc increalGl

23 Next r I ide, p!.ea3e Lavel of

P^tiLtNE E. wll.l-txa:( cartt?t Go :illoFttt^-..D nltor|lzR rit 31

I servica. nhen you conduct rnalyses o! hight{ay

conditions, the result is a Level of scrvice '

Nou, depending on the tyPe of location that you of { are analyzing, there i3 dl f Cerent dcf initions

uhat a level of servlce is, I tlon't rcally uant j'nto o to go through this too closely' 9le can 9ct

it later if sonebody has sone cpecific to o questions. But. basically, rhat You attcnPt naintain in a guburban area such as this in a

10 pcak hour of opcration is a level of 3'rvicc D'

I1 fhat's genera I I y v i ercd as a good util'lzatlon of tz paveDcnt out thcre so you don't have too ruch

'| 'l paytrent that you don't reaIIy need, and it also

provides an acceptabte level oE delay to nost

notorlsts.

t6 Iaxt 31idc, Pf.ate. That on so!c ot 11 Providca a little lore inforration t8 the analysi3. That !pecifical,ly daal3 utth aj,d

l9 block sGgnents ' If there are tpecific

20 qucs tions, ee can get i nto that I ater.

Ncxt 3l idc. llou re're to a PoInt uhers sa ate iitcntifying rhat itptovctcnts sill

be rcqul!cd.

P^rr-ri_ E E. \^ | !Lt!ra-_ C!s?taru D 5$oatlt^.{D RlloftcB I Let nc s tar! off bY indicating

2 that if you read thc tltle block hcrc, tre sce 'Leve1 3 this is, of trProvenents €or the 2005

4 Targst Grouth Sccnario Option L' Te developcd

trro optionr to thc road{iy irProvalents in this

area. The rea!on being -- I'.lI 9.t into that

nhcn I talk about the ner artcrial roadway

o connecting the Northsay sith llatervtlct-Shaker

9 Road, that bcing one oE tha rajor

recor!endations th.t ue radc for this target ' II qrorrth scenario' The!e s a nead Eor

construction of a ner artcrlal roadsry rrhich

1t basically extends !ron the cons truction oE a nei' l4 Extt 3 of the Northray in the tlolf Roaal vicinity

15 bcing constructrd to artarial 3tandards

16 interrec tl ng ulth natervlirt-Shakcr noad,

17 Gxtcnatlng to the north to Route 7 rnd

18 terrtnating thcre irith a gradc-sePrratcd

1q intarchange. this roaduay sould con!ist 20 baslcally of a !lvc-1anc crors rcction r,hlch a rill provitlc ttro lanca in cach dir'ction and 22 center rcdian ehich pould be utilizcal !or

23 lcft-turn rtorage, ainilar to rhat rxists noe on

PacLt$E E, wt!!!!ati- Cti'irrt zo stroFf tt^.*D RrrorrrR I

Other najor i mprovesents inc lude

uidening of Route 7 uithin the study area

4 li!llts. A9ai n, l|e 're shouing rrithin the

5 study-area lirits ' obvlbusf!t :ce'rc aolng to

5 have to extend turthcr to provide a good

7 ter inus , But thQ !ridening ln that arca uou.Ld

A provide an addi ti ona I through lane in each

9 di recti on over and above the ttro that you aee

nos. So therr r|oqld be three thtough lanes in ll each d.ircction,

It also callr for the eidcn i ng of l3 n a t c r u Li e t - Sh ak er Road cast of the airDort to t{ provide a f iv6 lane section in the vicinitv of

'E Exit 5. lh. construction of a 3eri,es of t< aalditional scrvicc roads in thc t,olf Road

1.' vicinlty that eould providc a Parallel path to lq rotorists bctr,.en Sand Creck Road and Albany- r9 Shaker Road. ft aI3o includes the rcaligning o!

20 the Maxucl I Road-Albany Shakcr Foad

7r intcrtcction, niclcning of n a t er v 1i c t - Sh a k e r 22 Roed to Drovida a !ivc-lanc cror s !cction,

23 again, 3l!iIar to noll Road. nidenlnE oC

PAcLr.-E E- wtt.!t!l^:r C!lllttED sl.ortittlsD Rltortt|t I Albany-Shaker Road to P:.ovidE the liva-lane

z cros s !ecti,on, aga in.

3 Oncc rc cale uE) sith thc OPtion

4 I, ue recognizcd thet tha constructlon of the

f, artcrial roadsay betuccn"ixit 3 antt

6 $ a t c r v I i c t - Sh ak er Road eould havc an itpact on

the cnvironncntal ly tcnsitive arca just to the

I south of Ann Lee Pond. Ohat ue did tE developcd

9 a sccond i[Provrlcnt oDtion that tdoulil as luch

10 as po!3ibl,e avoid that .r.a. lhls 3€cond

inprovcncnt option is casentially vary siIilar

to the firrt onc, th. raJor di.ffcrcnce b.i ng

1? thete is no connecti on betrcen -- no dircct

14 connection batracn tha Exit 3 intcrchangc and

1q oatervl.ict-Shakcr Road' To accorrodatc the

15 ea!t-rcrt tra!fic flor in thc er6l, ee're

calling !or thc rcconttruction o! thr Exit { l8 intarchange to provialc diacct rcca!r to the l9 airport. nc also -- brsrd on thc lack oE cast-

20 ucst roaduays nou, re necdcd to tacgnnact

glatervliet-shaker Ro.d throuqh the airgort ' fhe

22 only uay ue can do that i8 to tunncl underncath

23 thc north-south runray. thc othcr lrprov€[cnts

PauL!*- E E. wt LLtx^i- cci'r!rr to sFoir ar.D Rltortlt (Transportation AnaIy3is ) 35

t on the OPtion lt Cor Routc 7, Albany-Shaker

2 Road, oaterv I iet-Shaker Road, are aMhe s anc

3 a3 Option I.

4 Next r I idc, please. Thc types o€

i.provcncnts regui.rcd ' Oe talk.d about the

6 tdidening of axistinq roaduayr, planning

7 additional accc33 to the Northuay, and

I constructlon of ne!, roadr{ay3, 9lhat rre haven't

9 talkeal about is denand !anage!ant or TsM or

transportation Sy I tcrs flanagcrcnt Prograns.

Ncxt rlide' BasicallY uhat l2 transBortation Sys tcrs l{anagGtcnt Progra!s .ra

13 -- and ric'ra haar ing lore and lorc about this

14 lately -- are

I5 Ride sharing progrars, r.hlch arc basically

Lo car Dooling, van Pooling, bur pooling.

L7 Varirblc eork hour progrrls, rhich is

l8 staggrred sork hours, in that, not .vrrybody

l9 ttlrtr at uork at 9t00 o.clocL or 0330, .t

20 portlon o! th. ttaff sill rta!t at, ! ay, 8:00

o'cIock, IIL5, II30. lhat rcduccs th. lnpact on the rordrays, Agaln, that's toIethlng that

23 .!ploycrr havc to initiatc.

P^s r"r--a E. wtr.!.tvan- CEirr?r aD saoirrrlaD Rl|Foittr transit Prograns -- cncourageient and

2 desiqned-for tlansit progtans, deslqned tor 1n

I tcrIs of neu devatoPtrcnt projects.

4 ?here ir also -- I'vc got a bullet there :rhich tcrlcd,'Ilpl.lentrtion,: rcans soncbody

o has to ensurc that thc!e types of prograas get

7 inplcnen!ed, and thcre has to be sole tyPc oE

at incentl ve fo! that to occur.

9 Naxt slide, Pl.a3a. The su[[arY

oE the transpo!tation analy!is i3 that the tt developo.nt includeal tn th. target grouth

It acenari o sill j,ncrca!c traffic volun.s, tralfic l3 loaals signi!icantly. tlrior inProvclentc riill be t4 reguired to accon|rodate the levcl o! dcvel6p||ant tq in thc targGt grorth rcena!io' And aIgo t'c

IO found that an aggrcttiva tStl Prograr lutt bc

L7 incluated in thc dcvcloPrGnt Plrnt !or this l8 arca. l9 Anal rlth that, I thlnL l'r going lJho i3 20 to turn lt back ovc! to Larry Caltand'r' golng to talk about eir quality.

22 R. CILLtt|DER 3 thank you,

23

P^ur.r.- E E. wtt.l.tlaa.ri csirrrtto 5roirn^.{D Rrtol.t!n I Aqain, t uould just like to

rei terate that our analys is of the3o iupacts ir

3 based on the target grorth acanario. It that

4 target growth sc.nario contlnuGs, if ilevelopnent

5 occurs at th. rate rhich is proJ.cted In that

5 scenario, then the3e ara the typcs of

LnproveIcnts that |fe'rc Iooking at in order to

F ttitigate, in Petcr. s ca3e, traffic lnpacts, and

9 that's true throughout our brief tevieu of

10 inBacts as soc iatcd rith thi s doculcnt. tt Thc scction I rroul'd, likc to talk t2 about nou a Iittl. bit is alr guality. the

13 Capital District gcneralfy neets federal and

state air quallty standards shich pr.sently l5 exist. Horrcvcr, thc raJot iopact on ai! quality l5 as a rcsul.t of developtcnt und.r th! trrget l'l g!orrth scenarlo, I think it'3 Prettt obviou3 to

18 evcryonc nolj, roul,d reault !ror vchiclc

19 cni!3ion3 rclatcd to vchicular trafCic on araa

20 roadprys, and t think pctcr Falth Iind o! zl highlightcd rhat thosc irpactr look lIke. 22 To evaluatr the iLpact on air

23 qualtty becaure o! thcs€ ealditional v.hlcular

PacLti-E E. lAtl.ux^N C!irrrrrD S|loirHr\D Rrror'.cr CAi. ouality) 38 r i! trips lrhich t ould be generrted, clough, Harbout ;

2 A lssociatca utcd an acceptcd coaPutcr Dodel

3 lrhich has bccn dcvatoPcd by !hc federal 4 governncnt to cstiDatc futuro carbon ronoxidc :

q Iavels at variout intcrtcctionr Uithin thc study'

6 arca -- carbon ronoxidG bcing the laJor

pol.lutant that i3 clittcd lroD vchicl€s'

a slide, fhc rodel ehich se used

9 is thc carbon llonoxidc Hot SPot v.ritication : t0 tlodel rhlch ls u3ed by the Nee Iork state

Departaent of transDottation' It's, as I lay' a

fedcral. nod.l, but lt's uscd by DOT ln NetJ lork t3 state to cvalulte air quality irPacts on t4 tra!fic. fh€ d!ta raquircDGnts Cor that are

15 highlightad on that slldr. t uon't go through l6 cach on.. But It'r gchclally a corPutcr lodcl. t7 Lcvel I ai! qualtty .nalytlt It a rodeL shich l8 gcncrally con!Idar3 rorrc crr. atao!Phcric t9 conditlonr, lrhat could bc thG r'orst clrbon 20 lonoxide lcvels that you r.ould !ce. lnd ee

thc atudy 2L evaluatcd variou! intrrtcctions t'ithin z2 araa.

4J thosa rrc thc lntc!!.ctionl on

P^cLrNe E. Wrt.l.tla^s CErrrrlED Srrortf ttlrtD RlForlat t the overhcaat i.hich erere evaluatcd, cenerally,

z the data requ irenent I lnc ludcs a Iocation s ketch

to shor., the roadvay geonetryf tra!fic voluIe,

{ vehict" speed and on dosn !hrough the ll3t. ?he

5 res ul ts of thc conputcr analysis for each

6 individual intcrsection lncorporatcr f uture

traffic flous to dcterIine rhat the itpacts

I related to vehicle enissions eould be' and the

result is the one-hour average concentration of

carbon !onoxide in garts Per !illion' lt Next sIidc. fhc intcrscctlons r2 r.rhich lJrrc evaluated, the result3 of the

conputer rodel on cach intersection arc shorn on

this s1!ate. And rhat it baricallY !hors ts that

I5 thc level L carbon nonoxi.de lcvcl of 14 parts

par !iIlion, that Icvcl. I thrcrhhold i3 .xcccdcd

'It for 6 out of thc 11 intar3cctions. llos, varioug

18 Iitigation neasurer are ruggrtt.d rhich could be

l9 i!plcrcnted to raducc this irprct. z0 thc first ilProvclcnt rhich right be I'ookcd

at uould bc inproved !lgnallzation, irproving

2Z the arount of vehiclc, uhich could !ove through

23 thc intrrsectlon.

P^r:Lti- E E. l,lrLltx-rs C'lr?rrtlo sfl oli|.!{D Rrror?ai 1 Anothcr ritigation i.asurc sould be sonc of

2 the actual roadsay inprove!ents shich Pcter

3 Faith discutted. that noulal rcduca thc alount

4 ot vchlcle dclryr and halp rcducr cerbon

5 nonoxlde Ievalt .t thct e intcrtectlons.

6 lnd the third one, again, onc o! those

neasures uhich Pctcr Faith nentioned, i3

8 actually to reduce thc arount of traffic throuEh

9 the inplercntation o! fran!portation Systetr l0 Managencnt techniqucc, uhich Peter har tt discusrcd. r2 Next tcction I uould llke to

13 discuss i3 the tcctlon on noise in thc draf,t t4 generic cnvironlcntrL l[pact rtatcrcnt. Perhaps

15 [ore accuratcly 3tatcd i3 airPort noira. the t5 intcnt of thi! rection rar to .vrluate thc

i!pacts o! eircra!t noitc at tlbrny county

16 lirDort bar.d on thc 'Alrport Noir. Control end

19 Land U3e capabiliticr study, n shich ral

20 corpl.ted by tl,bany County in l9gl, thl! !tudy

2l pro jccted the noisc l.vGlr of futurc flight opcrations at thc rlrport through 1995,

23 Th. dra!t gcnaric Gnvironrcntal

Pa(:!rr{ E E. wrt.Ltr^s C!i?rar!o sr|oFru^-r.o RttotrEi I inpact statenent conpared the ANCLUC, or the

noise capability study, projectionr against the

J actual fliqht operations for 1988 and 1989 to

4 deternine if thoBe ANCLUC pTojections rere on

5 target uith ait traf!ic gro!lth at th€ airgort,

6 lhis next !lide rhons a

conparison of the tuo s ets of alata,

I the !irst section of the cha"t shor{s the

9 total aircraCt operations Eor 1989, lhis coDes l0 faom an FAA publication. Thc aost rccent data tl that iras available rt the tine sas 1988, And it sholrs that based on thc ANCI;UCatudy th6rc rroulrt

13 be 171,000 opcratlons, tctual. op"rati on! in l4 19Ag according to the FAA rerc !66,000. So they

15 are roughly conparablc ln ter[3 of total nu!ber l5 o! op€rations. t7 Bccauac j.t opcratlons af lect noisr

18 pro jcctions to a grGat axtant, rc then took a

19 Iook at f989 daity tak.off ancl landings by ai,r 20 carri er jct aircraft, the air carricrs bci ng

2l USAir, Unitcd, rnd thc otherr t{hich opcratc jet

22 aircraft on a corlerclal baslt , And this shous z1 that thc tNCLUc crtllatc Cor I 989 r,ould hevc

P.,t:LtNE E. !a_tL!.tx s C!lttrt!D !iNoi"rttlsD RttorrEr bcen apProxi[atelY 92 jet otrcrrtlons Per daY

ActuaI oPcration3 for an average day in l9B9

J ljere actuallY 9{. so thote arc rouqhlY

4 corparable.

5 Anat thcn, flnally, i989 gencral rviation

aircraft operationt Cor jets. thc ANCLUC

7 es ti!ated about 4200 oP.rations ! 989, and on the

I basls of the inforration rc had availabl'e, it

9 shoHed that thcre rouId, bc roughly 1800 l0 opcratlon3.

1I All in aII t think You can lce t2 the biggcst alisPar!ty bGtu.cn the ANcLuc l3 estiDates and actual oParat i otrJ i3 in the ar.a

of the !ir taxi bu, i ncr r, up in the f irtt

!E !ection of that chart. It !horr3 that tor

13,000 Lo corlutcr atrlinc!, fNCf,UC cttirltcd l', opcretions. ft err rctu.llt, 68,000; houcvcr, et thc 18 th€y havc vcry littl. lrDlct on th! noisa t9 airport in tcrrs o! takco!!t rnd landingt. It'! lcvel! prisarily jet altcta!t that rff'ct noitc 21 to the grcatcst cxtcnt. And alr trxit, they are

22 prirarlly oPeratinq tvin cnginc turboprop

23 aircratt uhich gcn.rally havc thc stra nol

P.rsr.trie E. wtLLtra:s CERtr"r!D sFoi?i^xD RltortEi characterittics as thc general aviation te'in cnglne private ai rcraf t, the singIe cngi ne,

3 ai.rcraf t r|hich oPcrate, If you corPare thole l that, roughly' thcre {' tuo together, you tjill s'c

is the sare nurber of oPerations' to trY to 6 So, PrlIariIY'

sunDa!izc rhat re ilid in that rection i3 that aroun'l thc 8 the noise leveI3 t{il'1 incrcase

9 airport but not to a signlficant degree bccau3e bclng utcd' Prloaril'y' 10 oE thc tyPe of aircraft Aherc 11 agaln, I E)oint to the colrutcr aitcraft' indus try and has becn trananalou! grouth in that '

13 they do not affect noise at the a i rport as

luch'

t itigatlon rcatu!c3 to Iitigatc

could includ' to!c 16 potantl.l irPactt and nolte t.' of thc f oIIotring -- I rill just try to highlight

r8 sotc o! thrl3

t9 th. acguisitlon ot land. llbany county hes to acqulr' 20 an ongoing land acgui!ition Progra! that 2l rrsidcntial Propcrtics around thG airPor" grcat dcarac ' 2Z are noise ilPactrd to r

z7 Anothcr titlgation lcaturc rould bc to

P^t:Lt$g E la.l Lu !aA._ C!irrrreD stlolixlrD REroiitr 1 rczona land around thc aitPort to a land use

2 which it nore co!PatibIe t ith aircraft noise'

3 certainly, you'll agrec that residential gcncrally 4 developicnt around alrPorts is not

5 corpatibla becaute o! thc noise ganeratcd by

o thcn, and. that obviourly Boulal only a!Ccct

tuture dcvclogrsnt.

I Another !itigation uould be to restrict lhc

9 typ€s o! aircraft rrhich oPclate at the airPort

10 to the f€!3 significant tires of day ' Prinarily

thc- daylight hours, t2 lnothar ni tiqation lcasure ehich I !cel

1't significant to acntion i3 tuggcatcd that the t4 opcrator o! the airgort conduct an ongoing

15 ronitoring Brograr to establish the ba3cline t5 data so that tha TNCLUC r.Port can bc uPdatcd l7 and noise lrDacts c.n be clotaly trackcd to

18 dctcrlinc if thcy are gctting signi!icantly 19 l,orsc,

20 Ncxt 3IiilG, I eould noH Iike to

docuEcnt talk about a couple oC arca 3 in the '

both recraation and runiclBal s.rvicea Firrt, z3 I sould likc to highltght tole of thc

P^(:ati.. ! E. WILLIII^N Crffrrr rD sr|orr|rrxD RlroatEt 1 recreational resources that are rrithin the sludy

area and thcn talk about so!e o€ thos e

3 addi t ional recr.at ional rer ourcca ehi ch are

4 recortrcnded as a rcrult of thc targrt araa

5 devetoptrenl,

5 HighI ighted herc in the

7 orangei sh-yel lor, it 3hofls the existing

s recreational resoutccs that presantly axist

9 rithin the 3tudy arca, And sith th€ excePtion l0 of the tlbany-Colonie rports !acility and lnn

Lee Pond, these arc prl!arily Pock.t park3 t hich

currently exist rithin the stualy aret or are

13 located Just ad jacent to it,

1{ Nor, th. tecrrational t5 IrBrovarents that uill bc raquired in order to l6 rcet th. aaldltional derandr placcd on it by r7 rasidential dcvcloplcnt under thr tarqct grouth ta scanario could bc thc .rtabl ish!cDt ol pockct

19 parks located trithi.n tho!e gortions of th. study

20 arca ehere rigniflcant residcntial alcvcloptcnt

2l ls supposcd to occur. lnd thc onc I rill

22 hiqh!.i9ht -- right thcr. (indicating) is thc

crcation o! a pockat prrk around thc Sturp Pond

P^t'LtNE E wtt.t.t!a^-_ C!rtrtt!D s|.orttr^!iD nBForttt tor Eo 1 area and e t tabl i thi ng a green belt connec

the Ann Lce Pond llaturc and llistoric Prasatve'

soee of the other Patkr you can rqs are locatcd

arcar i.har. aalatitlonal 4 in .rcsidcntirl

5 devclop!cnt l3 projcctad to occur'

6 Ncxt tlidc' Just brief I'Y to

highlight the r.crcational irprovGlcnts and

I nunj.cipal tervicc iIitrovclants thrt are cxittin9 9 r.guired. In ordcr to rcat l0 deficiencics uhich hevc been id.ntifical and alto

'tt to accorrodate additional dcvcloprcnt in the

l2 area, fiv. neu PockGt Parks totaling be t't approxirately 27 acrca ar. racorrGndcd to

14 addcd to thc atca and also thc rxgansion of a not only l5 runicipal Eolf coursc as a result oC

15 davclopr€nt in this rrGa but alto rasidential ol colonlc' It davcloPront throughout th' torn

1g undcr luniciDal tcrviccr ' I'II

t9 highlight Jurt rorc ar.at t|herr additional 20 !arviccr siII bc rcguircil .

nee police t, tt'3 b.cn that eiqht "stirated 22 officars sould nccd to bc hircd ln ord.r to

23 providc thc cxisting lcvcl of tcrvic' that

P-\r: Lt..' E E. wtr.l.tlt^s ('E*Tr rt zD 5taoitta^-.sD RE oltEi I presently cxirts r|ithin the study arca; and

2 It would also bc neccssary to expand the

rleu crQrglncy Dcdical s crvi ce !|hich has becn

4 catablished ln the tosn of Colonie.

Under flrc Drot.ctlon, thcre are €ivc

6 di f fcrent fire dist!ict! th. t rerve the study

7 area. tuo oE tho3e flre dirtricts have

8 indicated a need tor addi ti ona I equiprcnt in

9 order to reet the additional deDands Placed on l0 it by thr tarqet grorth dcvaloprcnt; that is thc

shakar Road Loudonville Fir. DeDartncnt end the

It l,lidHay Firc Dcpart!cnt, And in rdditlon, it i3

iIportant to note that sincc flre dePartnents

are largcly volunt€ar organizations, thcae fire l5 dlstrictt al3 o indicatc the nce{ to continu€ to

15 attract adtlitional voluntcc!s to providc

17 adcquate firc cov.rage, l8 . Ncxt sIldc. Gcnrrally, publtc l9 schools arcn ' t conrldercd nuniclpal !crvicG!,

20 but thcy .rc lndecd public rcrvic.s, and thcle

2L r.il.I inal.cd br ilpacts as a rc!ult of 22 raridcntlel dcvcloprcnt in thir alaa. thcre arc

23 thr.r public tchool dittricts ehlch t.rvc th:

P^a:Lr!i E E. Wt!Lt!r^._ C!k"rttaD Strortta!..D RatortEE t s tudy arca, North CoLonie and south CoIoni

2 Central School s .nd th€ Niskayuna School

3 Dirtrict.

4 In North colonle, addi tiona I !csidential

d.cvclgDtant ri!1 creat€ a nccd for thc achool

6 district to accotrodatc approxitrately 347 nes

7 studcnts a3 a rcrult of devcloPrent. According

I to school di s trict offlcials, thl s rill

9 ncccagitate thc con! truction of a nG!' clelentary

10 rchool and al!o cxpantion of the iunior high and

'tI high 3choolr. It's inportant to notc, h or,ever, - t2 that orth colonic 1r bcing inpactcal by groeth

13 in a lot of other araar, na!ety, th€ Boght Roa'l l4 area, ehere thcrc i3 a targc a[ount ot bcing 15 rasidential devcloPrcnt. So thay arc

16 l[pacted aa r rcrult of othar arc.s, as rcl l. t7 thc south Colonic school Dirtrict cill be l8 lrpactcd thc lott by davcloD..nt ln thc atudy

19 arca. thare irill bG a nccd to accoarodate 650

20 ncs ttudcnt3. Thc !choo!. har ld.ntllical thc caPaci ty ' 2t !ac t that they ato hav. 3olc cxcG33 2Z gouevcr, it rill bc nccatsary to cxDend the

I 23 Lisha Kill fddlc SchooI i! thit target

P.rc!rr- g E. wrLLtY^-\ CEx.rr!rzD SrronrrrrsD Rltorrai ' I developrent ccenario co[es to fruition

2 Anal, f inally, a rnall portion

thc Niskayuna School Dj'strict ovcrlaDs into the

4 study area. 9le've pro jccteal that 65 ncs

s tudents rrould be going to school in NisLayuna '

5 As a re3uLt, th.re souldn't be any signi!icant

inpact in terBs of !acilitj.er. Hoi{cver, r do

n notc up here it's not that t.e'vc ignoreC

9 aaldittonrl costs associatcat uith th. district'

10 tle have also iatcntif icd, of coursc, cach one of

there r{lll lrpact the- 3chool in tcrrs of

stalfinq and !ateria l s and ruppl ies.

13 Sl lde, PIcase. l4 I sould nou like to lntroduce l5 Larry gloods, uho rlll discuss the scction on l6 cconoricr,

'1 7 l{R. 0OODSi Thanks, Lrrry.

18 It idcntlticat in th. DGIs, an'l t9 I'r ture that rort of you hav€ concludcal bascd

20 on our prcacntations thi3 cvcning, th.

devclop!cnt assoclatcd uith thc tarqct grotJth

22 scenario it cxDact€d to hevc toae !iEniaicant

23 cconoal.c iapacts crrricd along uith lt. thcrc

Par:LrsE E. l,StLLri^-\ CGi?t?taD S||olll|AsD Rtrol,lEr I econo!ic inpacts se realize !ron the de[and for

addltlonal caPital irprove||ents and rerviccs to l i 3 Icet the potcntial dcveloprcnt, I havr r fcu i

{ overhcads jurt to give rore llt u3 tlation on to[ei ' f o! thsse irpactr.

6 Thc flrst rllde you can aee ehat

ee'va d,one is sc'vc taLen total co3 t astociatcd

I trith trloJected dcvcloplent rnd tunlarized it in

9 this table, tla'v. brokcn it dosn into varioug l0 lnalividual itcrr ruch er irltcr srrvice, l1 transportatl on for thc trro oPtlons, rrcreation, t2 tirc, police, and so on. This includes all

13 costs, capltal ilprovcrrntr coats a3 rcII as

14 noncapi taI costs . The capi tal corts rould l5 rainly be r.!Icctivc of nes con3tructlon, l5 con!tructlon of, roadr.ay!, that typc of thlng;

shcre tha noncrDltal uould bG rerviccr tuch as

!8 3rlarlrs, !ino! cguiprcnt, th.t typc of thing. l9 A! you €an 3cc' !ror thc tot.lr !or

20 trrnsportation cotts, option nurber 1 !or total,

irprovarctrts is about 9106 Lillion; and for the zz option 2 trrnrgortation rcenarlo, it rould bc z3 about 9110 !i,!rion. I P^cl-ri-E E. wtt.!tY^... C !t?arrED sarottta^j{D Raroi7!i gc I The next tablc, rhat uc did is

broke dot{n costs further into capital

irprovcnent cos t vcrsus noncapital Inprovcoent

{ costs. And again, capital inprovcncnt costs

include c o n 3 t r u c t i o n - r c I r t e d activltiGs such as '

6 neu road,Hays, intet!cction itrprovaDcnts, ne!,

7 utilities, uaterlinc storage, nee racr€ational

facilitics, uajor aquipnent purchasca fcr !ire

9 conpanica such as fire trucks and ranovati on and l0 conr truc ti on of nci{ school buildings. A9ain,

II the noncapital costs includc salarics o! ncr

perBonnel and ninor equipnent purchasca. ts you

can !ce f ron thes. totals, the noncapital cotts

rea 1l y don't anount to !uch ehen you co[pare it

15 to the capi ta I cort5. t6 Thc lart tabla rtr ured to

dcvclop shat re calL our dcveloPl.nt rltigation

18 cos t table, This docu!cnt i! tncluded in the

19 EIs. glhat tjc hrve donc hcre rrlth this table it

20 uc'vc brokcn doen and d.arlgnated on I p.r

ZL reJidcntial unit and Per 3guara !oot of bui ldinql area for nonrrsidcntial and f,or totaL

23 cnplan.rcnt! at thr airPort Fa'vs broLcn dorn

P^('Ltsg E. l'f t !lt!.,|-\ (:Errtrr !D sxort!!so Rttottrr 1 cos ts individually for cach onc o€ those.

z These costs reElect only

3 inprovenents gcncrated a3 a result of the

4 developncnt i.ithin the study area. Corts

include dcaign and conrtruction. Horrcver, due

6 to variability of costs as3ociatcd sith

adIlnistration, Iegal assistance and bonding,

I these have not bcen includcd,, t r.ould llke to

stress that it 3hould be noted that this is a

first cut at catitating thc d€vcloplcnt l1 nitigation co3ts. lhe DGIS and PGIS Plannlng

12- stat€nent, a8 they ara progrcsscal, it is

13 expectad that devcloPrcnt nitigation co!ts rill

I{ be further rafined.

!5 Jutt in guick conc Iu3 ion, thc l6 calculation of developrent !itlEatl,on cort! is

an alfort by the vlllage and toun and county to

18 try to o!fset !ajor capltal itprovarcnt cortt l9 associatcd rlth the nes dcvcloPrcnt in th.3e

20 tiras ol shrlnking strtc rnd !ederal revGnucs.

ZL This Proc.sr attcIPts to insure that nee z2 dcveloprent contri butrr its !ti!-rhare z3 contribution to tuture capital irProv€lsnts.

P^cl.rs.. E E. Wtt.t.rr|\ (:artrtr ED srfol:l||AxD Rlrorr!t I And, finally, ldhat I'd like to do

is ju3t quickly conclude, elhere do re go f rorl

here? As Pcter Consay had Ientioned ear]'ier, t,e

4 are currently eithin this Dini[un -- it, s

actually a 45-day comnent Pcriod, The toon,

5 village and county -- actually, the torn, as the

7 lead agency, will be accePting coonents through

at october 19, oE this nonth, and they foul d like

9 to stress that thcy r.elco!e garticiFation by the

public. IE you're unablc to gct your cornents

11 across tonight verbally, they rrill be accePting t2 uri tten cottents. l3 llith that in nind, uhat I,d like

to do is turn the presentation back to Pcter

15 PIatt, eho rrill outl.ine the guidelines for the

16 public partic iPat i on Phase of thc prescntation

L7 thi! evcning.

18 Peter. l9 R, pLATtr Those 3ctts arc hard,

20 arcn't they? t couPtc rc.k! ago, thc Planning

2l board rra3 kicking around thi.s uhote DEIS and se 2Z co!e up uith a rathcr tonguc-ln-chcrk rlrpl. lstic

23 idca of horr to pay for thir 9190 rillion

P^trl.tn- E E. l^_tl.t.txalr Ctirrrrlo Staorrra^.so RltorlEn I iIprove[ents, If ue charged evcryone taking off

2 !ron Albany county AirBort 93 and rrhen thcy

I landed, bef,orc thcy could get off the Pl.rna,

4 they pay us lnothcr 93, se'd have 9!89 DiIIton

in 20 ycar3 and only le i:littion dol lars short that has b and be able to acco!!odatc cverything

b.en propored tonight.

I I think the for0at, ue'Il do t',hat

9 ue nornally do. 9le' l1 havc Gvaryonc that sants gle'd to sgeak leel free to do to' only atk that l1 you give u3 your nane, if you'rc rffili.ted sith t2 an organization, nith a holeowncr's grouF, l? lfhatcver it is, and thcn Circ ar.ray at us. I€ ve ataff t4 can't ansercr the quGstlont, I'n surc thc

.l< lron CIough, Hhich ir Larry, Lar!y, Peter, tohn, lo and Pcter.

L7 Okay. flc arc opcn nor lor

l8 corrcnts and gucations. 'al. 19 Yc! , f{!

20 HS. GHANDBt I cood cvcnlng. lty nale is CeciI j.a Ghandhi, and I'I the prcs ldcnt

of the Shaker Rldgc-vly noad Neighbo!hooat

ls3ocia tion. AII the r6!ber! of our at!ociation

P^c Lr-..E E. Wrluv,r.- CE|trrrreo s8oF't.r-{D REroitat I res idc uithl.n the ai rpolt cEIS arca, and ue live

2 not vcry Ear fron the airPort '

Oc uish to thank the toiJn,

a viLlaqe, and county Eor this opPortunity to

coaRent on the airport area draft GEIS, anat f '11

5 try to kcep thete rcnafks bri.f 3ince ue uill bc

7 subnitting nore rri tten co!nents very shortly.

I i r.roufa like to enPhasize, as I

q th j.nk Mr, Conuay did, that this is a draft

10 cEIS. fle !ut ly recogniz. the dang.rt o! l1 cconoDic rtaEnation. I think ire all do, ne tz rccogni 2 e that thi's area sill be subjact to l3 furthcr devclop[entn but ue arc alro crltical of

thc kind o! runaray develoP[ant t,e have seen in

15 Colonic during the last ten yaars ol lo. Te are

IO in fu11 3upDort of thi s GEIS .!fort to

1'l rationally definq the po!slblc uayr 1n rhlch

t8 that grouth uLt l or rill not occur. Anal, in

19 fact, this Ar!ociation of llo.cosne!3 Julrportcal to 20 that cE!ort evcn bc!ore ag!cet'n! r'lt rQachcd

2l drett thi.s cEIs, tn .cc€nt rrc.kr, l'v. hcard !anY

23 d.nigratlng tcrarkt about thi! dtalt DIann i ng

Pr,r.,'r|x E E. \i r!&rx^i- C!r?rt!!D s||orraf,rrD Rtloltar I docurent. I'n 3orry. Hor,ever, I believe that

nany of thosc colnents rre unJustifiaal anal that ot 3 the reason !or thls beliet is 3i.PlY a natter 4 persPectivc. If, ue vtcu thls docunent tor irhat

l it i3, r think sc all b€cdla a blt lore

6 charitable. It is a draft grnerlc ervlronDental

7 inpaci stateaent. It is not the final

e docunent.

9 ls a dra!t, it ha3 [erit. It is

lnterestinE and educational, and r.a recognize l1 that any f laus and oli3rions have yat to be t2 i{orkcd out, thc purDo3a of thc public conn'nt l3 periott is to helP inturc that th.y a.c. nith

14 that thought in rind, I uould I ike to surlarize t< sotrc of our arEociatioD't conclusions to date.

1. Bc rholchcartc'tlY agrcc ui th SeeApp. 14 ResDonseII.B,7. 1'' thc concLu!ion thrt thc high grorth tcanario ls

IA unacceptab.le. t alavaloPrGnt Projectlon rhich l9 uould ncccr r i tatc a l0-lana Route 7 lnd a

cxrrPle' 20 l6-Ianc Albany-shakcr Roed, !or deserves to be rcJcctcd.

22 2. For vrrious t'a3on9, and

uc'11 outline thGr ln our url'ttcn co!!Gnts' r.

PAuLt:. E E. \'{l!!tx^:s (:!i.ttrtrD saoattta\D R!tol?EE I find the targct grouth acenario cgually

2 unacceptablc, the threat to Prehistoric and

3 historic tites, the fresh ratcr rret lands, the

4 ua tcr 3hed, traffic and air and nol ss qualtty,

5 uhich it pres.nt! can ncvcr be su!!icicntly

6 nitiqated ' oc are not convlnccd oE the !ocial and econoni c ne.d for the hugc alount ol

o residantiaL and co.[|crcial developnent pre3ented

9 in the target growth sccnarl o, and it al so s ee[s

10 soreshat irpractical to us that 3o luch buildtng

tl could actual ly be acco:tlliJhcd in thc ahort

r2 sDacc ot ftttccn ycart' tre thcre thet lany

l3 construction sorkcrs ln th13 rrea? Arc therc

cnough building tca!ons in thc year to

l5 accorrodate the actualizrtion of thc!c

to projcctt. glc vcry rtrongly rQqucat that a rorc SeeApp. 14 ResponseII.8.1, 1'l rcasonablc lorr-grorth scanarlo ba docutcnted,

18 considercd, and advocatcd in thc cEIs.

19 3. f.lthcr ot thc tro oDtions SeeApp. 14 ResoonseILB.1. 20 gretcntcd for thc I,roPo!'d north-touth artcrial

2l are particula!ly attl.activc ot cconorical,. tl€ z2 nould Iikc to tce tavcral lora options

23 includcd

Prcr-rs-r E. \itr-t.tt.^!. CErtrtrlD s||o*tta^,|D Rrroti!r

? 1 4. Thc Eections r€qarding

and noise guality desarvc rore claborition.

3 Rclying on hypothaticel luture air rnd noita

4 quality rtudicr on a cerc-by-c.s a barir 3a.r!

E unrcalittic. It lr obvlour thet rott o! th.

6 tarEat grorrth rcenr!io propored projcctE sill

never bc !ubjcct! o! cnvironlcntal irgact

a staterent3, Gvan on r ruppl.encntrl ba9is. they

9 don'l rcct the crltrria in SEQRA' I|r, SeeApp. 14 ResponseII.I.I. 10 ther€€orc, requcrt that lcvel 2 and,/or lcvcl 3 tt analyrlr of air quality bc includcd in thiE

GEf5, ne also rcquc!t that projGctionr bc radc SeeApp. 14 ResponseII.J.8. 13 on the noise irpacts shlch irlll t.sult frol

I4 incrcared trrffic anal projcctad dcvaloprcnt. tq Liniting the con!ld.r.tion ol noisc to th!t l6 crlnating lror Lncraa!cd rilcra!t oprretions t7 frol llbany County tlrPort i3' rG lcel, l8 in.daquatc. tlhllc r.cognizing thrt our prcviour t9 rcqucs! to actuelly ronitor rirport noit. 1€vGlt

20 for the rtudy crr atul.y ignor.d, re r.ke that

2t raqucst again

22 tl,ro givcn rhort shrift iD thc

23 draft cEfs uas thc Drctrnce o! nlghttlre cnEi nG

Pacl.t*..a E. wtr.t"t!d^._ C trrrrrED Saoirx^-ro REtortca ra.intGnance noise. fhe GEIS sirPly statcs, and

I quote, "AIbany County Airport has cstablisheat

3 a poI icy shich Prohibi ts nighttine engine 3un uP3

4 at thc airport. ' The fact ir that tha policy

f !)rohibiting runups uet,gctii nidnight and 6:00

6 a.n, sas cstabll!hcd in 1985 and has nevcr been

7 snlorced or enforceable. the noise ke.ps

I qettlng Hor! e, and re! idents o! the .rea are

9 increaslngly rcacnting it. 9le had hoPcal that

thi.s alraf t GEIS uould hrve produccd data on this lt !roi sore tort of ronitoring Prograf.

L2 Obviously, tt didn't. tc again r.que3 t that Seeoo. I I-182 through I I -185. l3 this type of noirc fron the airPort bc lon i torcd t4 and the rcaulting data be includcd in this cEIS,

Fifth, and flnally, thi! draft

15 cEIS recornend.s devcloprrnt o! a dctril.ad lntcr-

L7 nunlcipal agrecrant aiong county, torn, and

1E vlll.agc for coordinttion of high|,iy irprovalcntt

19 and tran3!cr o! lundJ !ro. thc collcction o!

20 dcveloprcnt !i tigatl on co!ts ralatcd to tra!!ic,

2L eatcr, and rccreation ilprovGrcntt. ne rttongly SeeApp, 14 ResoonseI I. H.10. 22 rupport this rccortcnd,ation end rould go ro !!r

that dcvcloprcnt ln 23 i as to say no f,uturc thit

P^cLr.- E E \A tLLtxAr- Callrr"t zD siotrra.r.D Rltorlzr I area 3hould take PIacc rithout ruch flrr i ntrr-

2 runlclpa I conritlent. In addl tion, if any

tra ff lc LnDrovctcnts arc to bc rucc!!8ful1y

4 irpl crcnted, rtrong agr eeren t t tult rlso bc

5 congidered, not onty arong thc runiclpalttiG!

o involved in this CEIS proccr ! but al,ro cith

s urrounding auniciPal ltics.

a nhile this is probably outridc SeeApp. l4 ResponseII.H.10. 9 thc acopc of the CEIS. let's facc it, nclther

l0 Route 7 nor Route 155, for cxarpl., drop otf the

t1 facc of the earth rhcn the airPort bordlr cEIs

I2 i3 raachcd. Any Bidening o! road3 in this arca

l1 sill have to be continucd on lnto othar

nunicipaliticr, Egually inportant, corts to

15 thote runlcipalitist HilI hrve to b. contidcrcd'

l5 thank you.

lln. PLAtI r lh.nk you'

l8 RS. nEISr I hopc to Dut rort ol

l9 ry docunentatton in a stittcn account. If you

20 eant to gucrtion te on uh.rc ry liguras calc gct !ron, f 'll bc hapPy to giva that. IC I too

bad, tlr. Platt, Just rlgnal !c rnd I r.llI put

z3 of lt in rriting.

P^rjr.ts-e E. wrt.r.ti^:r CrltrtraD Stloi?r|!'rD Rlto*TEi I Fi.rst of all, I uant to

t conpllnent you on the cEIs rcport. I f inat tt

excellent, f found your taps e!peclally

4 hclDful, and your prer rntat i on tonight ra!r vc ry

uel. l don€. on your rcrilicn, I givc you a grade

b t. I teal iz e it Has ll!ltcd bccausc sore of

7 your inguiries didn't receive responses, but I

I thought you did aD excellrnt job in attetpting

9 to get the naterial you coulal ,

10 Honevcr, your f i:lal SeeApp.14 ResDonseI I.0.4. Invastigations j,n !ore of the traf!ic and in

3o!e' of the cnviionIental scctlons, particularly

13 on the ani.nals and the flora and fauna lnvolved

l{ nention field lnvcstigations, but I c oul d. noE

15 find then docut.ntcd in the tndlx, and f uould l6 bc Aratcful te in thc tin.l thtt you soutd add It thcr, cagccial.ly ln 'thc €nvlronrrntal !cctlon 18 rhich t think sas a !asterfut job, I alon,t

l9 think you hrd tirr tonlght to do !ul I Justicc to 20 it, and I hiqh!.y recorrcnd it to rnyonr !or

ZL rcading. ft sar a uondcrful rond.r!uI job, 22 Noc, the only thing t d I ! agr.a

.J si th rrc your conclurlons.

P^cLtNE E. Wrt"l.rx^r C!ttrttED Sl|oirH!\D Rlt'otrEtl (Laughter. )

lnd. I have strong digagrcenent,

3 tlorr, it alro colncldes rith irhat Mr5' Ghandhi I I has !aid. your bulld-out rccnario in the rargst I SeeApp.14 i ResponseI L B.1. l grouth ls uhcrc r diragrii, bccauta, if you'lI

6 forgive re, I beliavc it sas ba3ed on tuo !auIty

preliscs.

First, the !|ay you rct up thc study, you

9 asked the oencrr shrt thcy rrould llke to do. to

!y nind, it ras thair drca!3 vetsur the l1 rcalitias o! rhat aat Pottibla to do, and I

think that skeucd thc concl,usions.

13 Sccondly, f bclicva thcrc ircrc l4 Iisconceptlons about the ei rport and. thc area i

15 and, thcrc forc, that tha conclutions lor yoqr

IO 15-ycer Erouth !ccnario lra not ruDportqd by thc

1'l int€rna I d,ata, l8 Nou, hcr€.r rhcra f get tcillour,

19 and t'Il try not to, !o any slgnal and I rrill

20 just, you knos, rritc lt.

2L First of all, as sas doculcntcd SeeApp. 14 ResoonseI I.8.2. J'' by sore of the .xccllcnt ncr3t)eper reDortr, rc

23 arc no longcr contidcrcd a tejor hub, A! your

P^ulrrl! E. \a'l LLt !,t^s ( lrirtt cD saoi.lr|AsD Rrrorlrh orJn doculcnts prove, ue are nos a colIutcr

2 Your orrn grorth ttudles of the taxi farct. So

? i.a are not looklng at a najor hub any [ore. ts€,

4 afe a coalutcr a I rport .

fhe ANcLui c!ti[at.r eere

6 ovcroptl Di stic in cach rc!pect cxcept thc alr

taxis lrhich you havc r.ntioned. lir freight and

A nilitary traffic 1s €xpccted to be about the

9 saIe in thc Bravl ous airPort 3 tudy that Albany

10 County dl.d.

1l Nos, alro f fecl your proJcctionsi

are optiIistic in regard to thc rconoly. lhG t,l alrline conrol.idation. th. probl.r3 oE USAir,

planc occupancy hat only gro!,n fror {0 percent

to 50 percent. lhere is stiII a 1ot ot apacc l5 thcrc, 3o I don'g 3cc e11 that grouth. nc llght'

face cuts ln tral!ic controllcrs. llc a!r !rclng l8 expanding !ucl cort. ' t9 Alto, in thc airport rtudy -- and z0 not iGntioncat, I bclicvc, only teterrcd to ln

your rection on the rlrport -- thc Eajority,

al[ost 50 lrcrccnt, in our QrrliGr airDort study z5 ot th. lltght! cora in lugurt. And !o rore o!

PArLtsa E. $r Lltlt^s C a ai ar| Eo sraoirta&rD Ratottlt the grorth projcctions arc akcH.d bccause ol

2 that, I don't thinlc rc'r. alto consialcring the

3 itrpact that St.sart llrport ir having on our

I airport, and al,3o that Saratogr it axprnalinq

f and,, thercfor., rlll tati rolc o! that lugurr

o tra!!ic asay. So I thlnk thc rir9ort

7 pro j.ct l onr do not jurtify rll thc EroEth a roun d

I it.

9 ff you rill .l!o noticc in your

10 oun !igurcs, in 1989, the gen.ral avlatlon Jct

operationr rcr. only 1,E25 instc.d of the 4,171 l2 proJectcd,

13 Nou, ry rajor probler in thc SeeApp, 14 Response 14 cntirG study ls I tcGl tn dc!ograPhica. I rould II.A.I.

llke to !ee you .xpand that. Noe, !or lnstancc,

16 you proJectrat -- onc o! your tlial.r hrt th€ l7 proj.ctlon ot 81,000. the torn ittclt l3

18 prcdicting 80,000. Nov, se dtd an cxccltcnt to LUMIC !tudy and that Dr.dlctcd thc 75,000, Noe,

20 actuaIIy, !or our ccn!u!, eG'rc Eoing b'tH'Gn 75,000 and 77,000 pcople. So you rc. thar,

right aeay, ! think it Puts ln quGttion your

23 Hholc Drojcctlon for thc arorth lor thc ycar

P.Ir:t.lsE E. Wtt.uxa:l ( Errrrr ED srroFr|.A\D Rtroarrr t 2005 nc haven't gro!,n ar nuch. ) But, [ore inPo!tant, f uoulal Iike

Notc the kind oE 3 to see your denograPhic s tudy ' { grolrth that lre havc and holJ our arca differs

sirPly' lle arc 5 !roE the oth€rs. Let [c'put it

6 nor and this I 9ot -- there is an excellant Part paPcl' put out by the chaobcr in thi's Eorning's

I and I highly reconnend lt to you. t thlnk you your !inal 9 could us. a lot of that to Put into

study, Mostly ehat it short is that our young -- 11 adults coring uP rrs a ruch thcy arc l2 declinlrig, as you knos. Thc colLegca in thc

going to 13' area know tha dec l ining popuLation i5

1l affect our colleges. gut nainlY, as He have

15 leuer adul t3 cven 1n thia a!ca than nationuida

Ib -- you don't eant thc flquras, ato you?

17 MR. PLrTt ! Bo.

la s, $EtSs: llo, you doD't rrant

l9 t,h. ligur6s - z0 lnd it aflcctr 9!oirth. flI

edults 2L right. But, !ainty, ra hrvc !cYcr young tt co;ing nati,onHide, nationeldc dGclining' lfo$

23 thc anrollrcnt that ue Itc nou t"lng hl!

P^cLti..E E \^ r Lu!a^.- (:litrtrtD Srto|.t|.^.so Rltoltlh started about '84 in the gradcs. HeTe are Just

really hltting the kind.rgartcn pcak noH. So

lha t thi s n€xt littIe boorlctte rill only bc

4 buyingi crrr by thc cnd of your projcctlon. rDd

5 they ron't be buying nolti reellt' until

5 approxinately tcn year! aftcr that, rlth thc

7 avcraqe agc of aatrinony lncr€asing. In othcr

I sords, the booi isn't coning bccaure the

9 population thcrc, the dctograPhlca don't tuPport l0 it in this arra. t1 SGcondlY, ee arc an oldcr t? population, Th. pco5rla that are goin! to bc

13 taking DIancs and buying hoIct, a! our t{ popul.ation rgcs !ors rignlflcantly, th. aging ol

15 our DoPutatlon sith !onay hat bcrn l!aving thit

15 statc, anal tha on.3 coring back lnto thc rtat. t7 have lat! roncy. th.rG!or€, tha ncad lor aIl l8 thir ot!lcc !Drc., Drrtlcularly, Ir not

19 ncccssary, tlc arc alrcrdy ovGrbullt ln o!!icc z0 t9ace in thr arar. So th.'t'r rhy I rcan thc

drca! o! rhat thcy eould Iikc to tce built i3 2Z not ln reallty rlth thc derand.

23 nr ara allo t.rvlcc aconory --

P^ttlrsE E- wtr.t.tt^s Ctttrtr!D srorrraa{D RlrorTzn I that has bcen increartng 47 petcent locally

rathcr than aanufacturing uhich give! us less

3 noney to sp.nd. thercfore, that knocks out a

4 lot of the retail. BccauJe of thc increaslng 'aiUt, 5 dcbt aDd paying for the re're going Eo

have less dj,rporablc incole. tnd if thc nen

7 chanqes in l,{cdicarc go on, since 50 pcrccnt o€ I our older population have that [uch of thc

9 disposable lncote, r|e're going to havc r lot l0 Less incotre If rc're paying rorc lor liedlcaiil . tt So cven your otd people rill not b. abIG to gct

12 ii

13 tfor{, on the noise palt of thc t{ stualy, i.hcn thc AIiICLUCstudy sa! don. back ln l5 197{, your noncorpllancc in thc arca ecnt !rot

16 l7 parcent to 57 pcrcant. thcrc ere rcvatre t7 lirit,ationr !or grorth iD thc arca. f .ll t8 r.ntion a leu. t'lI givc you th. strtirtlcs

19 sorc othcr pirst tire, o! rIl, t'ou.vc aot tha

20 hcight o! builatingr bGcausc o! yout rDDrorchst

2r to thc rlrport. tou hrv. th. cost o! zz dcveloprcnt. You rrc proJccting that 95 pcrcant SeeApp. 14 ResponseI I. H.10. ?3 o! th. cort! for !uturc davGloplcnt rhould b.

P.rur.r...a E. w!!!tx^x C!F?rncD staoirr|.-ro Rtroirtr l

app I i cal to businGsg. I eish you luck. t'al Iova rilt go 2 to se€ it, but I don't think that they

3 for it, to tell you thc truth . I agrcc rith 't thlnk theY { you. lt'3 logical, but I don

5' rdi I I .

6 sccofidl Y, thcrc are catcl SeeApp. 14 ResponseII.E,2. your problcns at thc alrPort. But, lainly, oHn

I proJcctions rhoe that thc aleDth of tha r'atrr airFort 9 table in thc antire ataa rll eround thc

l0 except !or a rrall area touth ls lrol zeto to l4

',t you do' r'rrc 'I inchca' tn othar rord!' uhat'vcr

L2 httting ratcr in ths rrca enat that rakat lor

t'l expcn! ivc devcloPrcnt and, I think, alrott

t{ elininatcr your ProPorrl to build thc road undar

t5 thc airport runray . I fcal thc €nglneerinE

t5 corts l,ould bc trclandou! !ot davaloPlcnt ln th'

1? arca bccautc o! that hlgh srtrt trblc'

l8 scconatlY, It ea! 3uggctt.d that SeeApp. 14 ResDonseII.D.l. rutt bc L9 thc lrnd utc in llrgort ProPerty 20 corpatiblc rith thc go.Is of tha corrunlty. lnd lt grovGd the co!!unity rould likc arGcn sDlce in our l!ICLUC atualY.

-- z3 Norr, j,n tha cnvironrant thlt

P^s L!r- a E. l^'t L!tx^:s crrrr"tED srloatL^-'.D Rttortlr the is in thc index -- letter fron Clark frotr SeeAoo. 14 I ResponseII.0.5. z Departrent of Environ[ental Consarvation talked for 3 about thc atrindling oPen tPace and the need

4' pernanent open 3Pace, capecially in rel'ation to Dtt trict that the 5 thc tlbany Shaker Hi s torica I i I open apaces are just as ilportant as Prcrcrvln9 to the 7 the builatingr becausa that is iIPortant

I l,,hole anbiance of the llbany shaker '

A1! o in thc environncnta!', all of SeeApp, 14 ResponseII.F.3, the stor!ratcrs ln the airPort -- (trhisPcring) you point 11 aII of it -- eIptiG3 ev€ntua I Iy ' as

out, one nilc uest and uPstreao of the intrke to sords t? the Lathan Tater' Dis trict ' In other '

cverything 1n that Iand, uc'r€ golng to 9et back

15 in our erater ry3ten. lle don't !iLtet !or

15 chenicrls, !te ter t for cheticlls, but re don't out t7 Cilt"r Cor chcaical!. so evGrything co!ing

t8 of that airPort and develoPcd in that arca lr gater lt'l a l9 going to !find uD in our tyrten'

20 horri fying thought. Bor!if Ying. - t, .tll natcrshed. ,. __ Your ol,n

2Z quot.. -Al!. uatcrsh.ds alrain to clthcr clats I

21 drinklng uater tuPplics or to Gnvironrentally

P^u!t-_E E wtlLtlaai_ (l trirtr aD Stloi'!8r$o Rrroltli - rcnsi ti va !retlands ' Al3o, you rcfet to

2 tloodtng problen! in the area. I ron't lltt bc 3 thcn. You don't sant to hcar ther' I thould

I off hcrc toon.

Norr, trrntgortrtion. I hav G

6 rpokcn to thc CePi tal Dittrict Transportrtion

7 cof,[ittee on ly rccollandations tor thir rrhol'e

I transportation taction. this also sa!

9 cxccll.cntly done. I .rpccially appr€ciatcd all l0 thc statlttica and €tPacially you! rrp! '

1t Ba!Ically -- I nill jurt !urratizc. lz First of eIl, if I lry guotc l{r.

13 Clark again. 'It's unllk.lY that highueY

1{ in!,rovcnents tJiIl rithttand overcaPaclty vcry t5 long,' 9lhich, lr you knor, re'vc prov.n. lle'v€ 15 lltrrnatc 7 i! alrGrdy overcaDacity' t7 l.provcd our roeds, rnd thay go ovarcaprclty

1E ruch soon€r. So butlding road3 ttn't thc l9 anrecr, That ncr, art.rlal you arc Projecting

tcll you rhy' 20 i3n't thG antucr, and t rlll t! you look at you! ftgurcs on

to s ch' nGc tady 22 Route 7, shQre you .rc clotG3t

23 you arc foughly 35,000. As you rovc doun, rhcn

P^a:Lt--E E. liJt !L! !a^-\ CEirr rr!D sNoatt.drD RtroilEa I you get to Albany-Shaker -- no' it's 37.

2 Roughly, it's 37 up by ttiskayuna ' tlhen you get

3 doun to Albany-Shaker, you are doun to 35,000. you arc 4 Dorn near the and of your Study area,

5 only dovn to 34,000. In other eords, your

5 denand for traftic relici on 7 isn't up thcre '

Uost of the traffic is Jurt coning through. Anal

I if you sDcak to Mr. John Poorlan of th€ Capital

9 District lransportation Co![ltt€e, you el.II note l0 tha t he notca in hi3 analys I s of the arel, Dost tl of our tra!!ic is going through Coloni.. And going l2 nost o! our ProbI cIs are !or traf f ic l3 through Colonie. So, thorefore, that isn't SeeApp. l4 Response l4 nceded. Thc airport road isn't overcxtended. II.0.9. l5 Roughly, your ohrD couDt ir, I think. 14,700

15 trallic on that road. llor, Your ocn

transportrtion scctlon recotncndt thet thc t8 through tra!!ic -- thc carlicr airPort rtudy tq said 40 perccnt of the tralftc aent through.

20 your study -- and that ' r only a short tilc lgo

2r -- hea lt alrcady up to 45 pcrcent ot thc z2 tra!!ic isn't going to thc .ir9ort. ft'r 90ing

23 through 1t, fh.rcforc, your luEge!tlon, rhich t

P^crr._E E. \A!L!!r.^... ('!rrrtl aD S|loRttta\o Rltoitri 72

I find excellent, is that you cliIinate through SeeApp. 14 ResponseII.H.?1, traffic 2 traf!ic, and that !rilt takc care of your

3 !,roblen at the roail . other { I recon[end, also, 3cv"ral SeeApp. 14 ResponseII.H.10. things. First o€ all, ln your cxcellent rcport

5 i3 a shole 3u![arY of, I think, 36

rcco!trendations tron th. caPital Dlstrlct

ol Transportation ConBittce, I'nvolving a !inirur

9 [oney, !o!tly tJldcning o! s onc o! the Qxits and ioProva our l0 changing traCEic ar,9nelt. that slll tt trattic condltions- at vcry lIttle cort, and no that lz neH highuay! ar. rccollcndGd Drcrcntly ln

l3 prrticular 3cction.

give -- t4 I do think that s. should SeeApp. 14 ResoonseI I. H.10. l5 beforc i|e projact any nce roads giva thcsc luch thcn 16 Icat cxDcnrivc irProvcr€ntt a chlncc rnd

parheps rccount and r.study' t thlnk lf uc do

t8 that, i! se !toP thc through tra!f,ic in thc

19 airport -- and t hava onc othcr suEqa3tion o!.y Fi'rtt o! all' z0 osn, I o!!er it in good !aith' if you notic. your figures, Exit 5 of the

22 Northrray is luch undcrutll'izcd co'Parcd to Exit

23 4. Horcvar, thcrc i3 a groblcn I think therc

P.rcr-rs e E Wll.r.tvas c!rtrtt !D snottttatD Rltoaia|t Mr3. nci s 73

I that isn't Ientioned in your s tudy i and that is

uhere the r|cstern entrancc to Exit 5 coincides

sith the Exit { entrancc. Do you tol'Ios ne? Do

4 you knou uhere f an? lilh.cn you core of f the

f Northr{ay at Ex j.t { and therc l3 also traff lc offer to t| coting on fron 5' !totJ, Dy !uggcttion I SeeApp. 14 ResoonseII.H.16. 7 you. First of aI l, you clote that erestern exit,

that uestetn cntrance to 5' It isn't ruch ured'

o but it does conElict rith all thc tfaf€ic coDing

off 4. sccondly, t uould kc.P th.t Exit 4 crit tl coring out shere it co[c! to the airPort only tz for cars . I t{ould hava aIl trucks exit at Exlt

13 5. Exit 5 doccn't have anyrrhere neat the aIount

of tratfic. So i! you lorce the trucks to get

of! at Exit 5, bl.ock the $csteln oncoIing -- castcrn l5 trt!!ic th.rc at 5 you !tiI1 havG th' l7 lcccss but block thc ucrtcrn -- thcn you rdould

it t8 !r.e up thrt Exit { !o! all the traCfic, and

19 sould cl.irinatc a lot of thc plobIel! that you

nolf rn'l ln that 20 hrvc thcrc at Shakcr and Old

ehole configuration, because you atc li!itcd 22 thcre. iou arc a.v.r.ly llriteal thcrc by th.

23 bridge and by thc road conflgutrtlont, and I

P^rjlrr- E E. lNrr.t.rx^i- ('rrltrr!o S||oi?l|a\D R!to-i!r think this light t help you in that arca '

I !hould sit dorrn' t'lI 3it

3 do!rn.

a I ICE ! , No.

g|EIsr a l R5. tour noitc lcvcl

tcu quibbles, The nolsc lcveIs dialn't lnclude

7 heI icoptcrt. Noe, the pcoplc on Route 7 f ind

I the h.llcopters Partlcularly annoYlng .sp.ciaIly

9 on Sunday iorning rlh.n they Practicc thc l0 forrations thrcc in a ror,, So I l'ould, rccolrend

It rith tlr8. Ghandhi that you do nced, again, the SeeApp. 14 ResponseII.J.8. l2 !onitoring, and you alro rhould includc the

13 helico?tert '

14 I dialn't 3cc -- I tlght have r< nisr"d it. you dialn't havG thc irPacts tro! thc

IO tosn building!, rnd I do think thrt sill affect l7 it all, thGrc r€rc torc govarnrcnt r8 recorncndations ln gcncral I !ounal rxc€Ilcnt, hcre 19 and I eould I ikc to Ju!t hlqhl ight thetr 20 becautc I thinl your sta!f dId a linc job.

2L Pro tcction of oPcn l9acc' z2 lrcheological !urvcyr, This is Darticulatly

23 ilPortant. BGceu'G r3 I'ou rcntionrd in the

P,ruLrr- g E. wll.llxan- (.'!rtttt!D srortr^taD RttorrER ! lt historical sectlon bccau!e they don't ulnt

people, aIateurs diqging therc, ua don't havc a

3 nap of the archcological sensitlve areas ' I

4 understand that, but that !eanr ue don't knor ln

5. thi s araa -- and it's sald thcre are lany .teat

6 he!e that are archeol ogical ly Jensitive, lle

'l d,on't know rrhcre thcy are, go uc don't knou rhat

I any of this develop.ent Ii9ht turn up.

9 There!ore, 1t'r inPortant that se hav: an Seeo.II-207.

10 archeo!. ogi ca I r urvcy bcfore any dev.I oprcnt is

donc in thir ar.a .

You elso recorrcnd a rap of noi 9c t3 overlay zone3 . this is vcry iIPortant, and I t4 also endor3c lt!s, Chanalhi'3 suggcrtion lor r5 loni!oring, I'll tell you rhy' I rraa at a lo reetlnE on thc aitport sith to!. ot thc pcople

fro! thc clty of tlbany, and it uas Pointcd out t8 that !ore o! thc trafflc l,lDact, th. noi3c

19 lrpacts rcrc not a! accuratc baeausc th'y havc

20 changcd rore of thc !Iight Pattcrns; and,

thcrc!orc, 1t'3 vcry irPortrnt that a nau noi!e seeApp. 14 ResoonseII.J.8. 22 llpact study bc don. to toDitot tbr nee flight

that Dattcrn! bccau3e thcy ara l!!Qctlng rrcaa

Prrr-r--s E. la'lt.t.txr|x C!trrrr Gn sr|ofrau-t D Rttol?li they rarc not ruppoted to affcct. tnal also

? especiel ly in 3oIc of the devcloPicnt, the nca

3 hoces that uerc developed calt o! nolf Road in

I bctsccn Albany-Shakcr and.Sand C!ack. So agaln,

5 tf you could PLcatc do tore noitc lonitoring'

I eould llke to rention a quote

in that art!ctr !ro! t'l!. l'tichael P!cotte. Bc

I says, "Dcveloprcnt ln the'90s ulll be and 9 charactQrized by cautlon, colpro!ira t0 conc.rn. ' Undcr 'Caution" ha !entioned future 'CorProrisG" t1 dcrand, tinc and i tPac t !eca i r'ith tz the runlclpallticri and "Conccrn" for the

13 environrcn t. !|or, l{hrn you cons ldcr alI thcac l{ things, I think thc alcv.loDrcnt uiII ba sev.rcly l5 curtailcd.

16 Pirrt ot ell, tt you looL rt your l? anvironrantly tcntitlv€ lrcas in the rraa

I8 itrelt, you ' v. got thc ratcr problcrt aroufld thc l9 airport ittcl!. To tha north, You havc aGtlrndt

20 al ong thq rlvcr and, ega i n, cnvlronrcntally You're 2l gensitlvc ' You' vc aot uetcf uP thara'

2Z alrcady cons trri naal by the roads you havc to th. z3 !outh and the tr.!!ic Arobl:ls th.rc' to th'

P,rCr.rSe E. WtLLtrr'-\ CEitttt rD st|oFrl|l-YD Rltortci 1 cast. you have [ore !Iooding Probl'Is' So I

2 think rhen you cons lder the co!ts o! thc th'! tor drveloprent PIus you are going to ask

4 95 Derccnt of the iaDact. fcas. I rglec ulth

5 l,trs, Ghandhi . I don't think cven your targtt SeeApp. t4 ResDonseII.B.l. 6 grouth sccnario is realistic for thls area '

Thank you.

6 (lppl.use. )

9 MR' PLAT!T r. MitchcIl.

IO Mn. l,|ftcgELL: Bob MttcheIl,

1l reprcacnting th. Al.bany Arca Bulldarl

It lrsociation, and I uoulal ltke to aatatry thankr

11 !or the presentation tonight. t thought it ua3 l4 very rell done. And Iy cotlcnts rrally !evo].ve t< around the futurc arovth and the Phating and, of,

16 courr c, the cos ts, thc rl tigat ion !cG.

our lclbcr3 of our a3roclation

1E are hore bui ldcrr .nal o!ftce bui lder3, s h oppi ng at thc Itl ccntcrs and thingr I ikc that ' I looked

lrst nu&b€rr thrt eerc put ug at thr cnd, at thc tt aconotric cost Per tquar. !oot. on a col[crcill 22 butldlng, ! think uat aroutrd ttl ' A r€tidcntial

23 horc E45OO. Anal rtth thorc klnd o! nulbcrs

P^ct.rsE E. wtr.t.tx^s Crrrrrr!D strorrx^r.D RltortEi 1 being adated on, the last pcrson in l3 going to i 2 be paying th. big f,ee! to pay for thc!c thing3. I

3 And becausc th.!e !ee3 arc 3o large, cc are veryl See App. 14 I ResoonseI I .0.3. { concerncd that you ley turn of,t rore oC tha veryi

5 pcoplc you arr dcPenallng upon for th€ grorth end

6 to pey for !ore of thcrc irProvctcnts' ne l,ould likc to r eG, nurbcr l, a: SeeApp. 14 ResponseI L H.9. s phased inple'lentation of these proj ccts such ag and Resoonse rr.0.14. 9 trant portation inProvclents, the satcr l0 inprovcDcntr and thc trratrcnt plantr '

'|| obvious Iy, ! otre o! thcae things h.va to core t2 first. lt's a chickcn or cag type ol l3 situation' But ca fcel thrt thc laJor trunk t4 Iine8 for satrr havc to bc put in, Sole o! thc

15 road ayttar! havc to ba Put in.

16 lg lar ..s paylng tgr the!. thlngs SeeApp. 14 ResoonseI I.0. 11. t7 i3 concarn.d, rathc! than trying to collact 'll t8 thcaa l.cs up front e3 inalivlalurl ProJccts ars t9 aDprovcd and d€vclopcd, rc sould llkc to tGG a zo 3DccIaI a3rcrsncnt tyDc o! deal arrrngcd, r,hcrc t1 it 1! 3Draad ovcr thc total area to bc

22 alev.lopGd. lnd portibly in phar.r, bonds can bc

ove! a 2O-yaar of ti.rc, and thc 23 I i"to.d 9arlod i

Prcr-rs- e E. lsl Ll'l!|^.ts C rrrrrr ED Sxotttt!{D Rltor.rER I fees for thesa tpecial a33es3tentt

t.o pay for these bonds so the inprov"Bents can

3 be nade alI at onc tinc in rtegs so re gct the

4 uork don€ in phases 3o that the dcvclopient can

5 takc pIace. This !|lll also !i tigate thc

6 devel.oprant co3t so that bullders and d.eveloperg

when they coIe in, ingtead of having to pay 91I

a square foot for o!ficc rpacc on the cogt and

9 having to coBpete uith existinq otfice sPacc

that did not have to pay thls tlpact !ce, it

11 rlill bc aprcad ovcr a Long pcriod of ti!e. The

L2 cash irill not havc to be paid up faont by the t3 developer but over a i.onger pcri od of tite as a

tpccial asseasIcDt on the Iand, and the toen can 't< go ahead and 1!plenent thc i!9rovc[€nts

16 inrediately thrt th.y ne.d to 9ct the !irrt

1'' phasc aoing hcrc al,th thcsc rpecial bond! backcd l8 up by tha !peclal arserrlGDtr.

19 Fe think that thc torn ha3 ln 20 exc aptiona I plan hcre !o, future grorth. lle

2I f.c I tha t thc grolJth is goi ng to taka place. 22 !ay not takc pLacc ar fart as you anticipat.. z3 llter aII, sc knos lt telet lour or !ivc years

Par:Lt!{r E. Wt!!r!a^!s ('arrrrr;D Sr|ottta!{D Rltotr|'r to gct through thc Planning board on any

2 proJcct,

(t .uEhtcr. )

{ Scriourly, I think you have a lot SeeApp. 14 ResoonseI I.0. 11. herc. and thcy f, of concerns that eant ao in "on. 6 want to do developrcnt on a spot batit. lnil to

'l hit thetr rith thatc Iargc ritigation fecs,

I specitically if ihey rant to cote in rnd !ay bc lJho 9 conpeting slth torcbody rlght next doot r0 built four or fivc trcatt a9o' er jutt don't you ray ll think this tr going to !et right' and

f inat that sorc of, thcse pcoplc rill 90 to other

I3 pl a c.s to dcvcloP '

1{ And thc i!Provcaentt that are -- as l5 necerrary in the toun right fio!r b'clu3c' l6 you pointcd out, al.ro!t 50 to 60 pctccnt ot thc

pco9lG that lrc currqntly rorking in thi! area l8 go north or routh rt torctlrc alurinq thc alry and

rrc colifig ln t9 leava the larke!. Nor, truc, th'y 20 to tha tocn o! Colonic to ure the laclllticr,

rat'il ,1 thc cooDercia I !actlitiGs, thG 22 egtablishrants, end, thcn thcy arc lraving So,

23 thcrclore, it" tharG DcoDIe eho ar' going to

Paril.t!,a E wr!!!x^i- CEi-rrr zD Sr|oirra^xD Rllotren I have to bear the cos ts, and they arc going to

) havc to decide uhether it'3 econonically

3 fcaslble to go rlong and to continua thir.

I 9le need therc highHays. 9le need SeeApp. 14 ResoonseI I .0. 15. the lrprovencntt. 9lc arc going to have to ltay

for then, rnd se require tha devcl.optcnt to pay

for the[. tnd se uou],d scrlously and strongly

I rugge3t that you Look to an alt.rnate !ethod of

9 financing thcre iIprovc]entr that ara sorc tn rcalistlc and certain than Just rltigation fces.

11 thank you vcry ruch. t2 R. 9LAf? r .(rndiceting. ) l3 MR. SIMPSoN! Good avcning. y

1{ nanc i3 Bob 5i!pson, I I iva rt 6l Uill Roaat.

15 I'd ltkc to 3pcak to you tonlght

15 about noirr lrpact!. That'r thc only arca of t7 the daaft cnvi!onretrtal irpact ttaterent that f l6 havc had an opportunity to rcviee.

19 The golnt I uould like to !aka --

20 I lcan I don't cant to rpparr overly criti,cal.

2l 8ut f think the rtaa of noisc irPact l3 uoeEully 22 inadcguatc In thc irDact rtatcrcnt, I rould

23 ll.kc to polnt out lorc of thc arcar uhcrc I i

P^clrsz E. \|'t!!tx^s C!rtttt aD srroia||^-*o lLrol?!r 1 think llprovenents can be [ade i otherrrisc, you

r.on't have the lnfor[ation that you n€Gd to rakc

3 intorrcd dec I rions about planning and grosth in

I the to!rn

5 Ihe itpact 3tatcrcnt has a nuabcr

5 o! charts on exgcctcd noirc lcvGlri but as far

as I can deterDine, thcrc arG no reccnt Seepp.II-182 through II-185 6 rearureoents o! albient conditions, aIbi cnt andp. II-191. 9 noise levclr. you have to knoe thc barc.

10 !herc sas a study donc ln 1981, ' l1 but therc s nothing .ore r.cent. you nead a

L2 bareline frotr uhich to proj€ct irDacts, and t

don't think you hava that.

You have Dr.dictions of noise SeeApp. 14 ResponseI I. J.8. l5 lcvcls by aircraft but nothing rhoring the r6 nurb€! of lltghtE and noice lcvclt thGy gcncratc l'l by ti!e of day, thrt'! v.ry !.rportent bccaurc

18 slqep Lntcrlarance Ls onc of thq 9rilrry irPactr t9 !ro. aircraft noisc. lnd, frankly, thcrc is no

20 dlscuttion o! that. It't very lrDortent to hava that corr.lation of !l.tghts by tirc o! day. and

22 you don't have that in the irpact ttatclcnt.

23 fhcr. is r ltat.rGnt that thcre i i P^sLtliE E.lstr.r.tx^ls {.'EF!rrr!D staoFr|ta"laD R!roi?Eta I eill be a slight increase in Doire 1n the 1995 SeeApp. l4 ResponseII.J.8. 2 period. ?here i3 no discussion of the

? a3 s utrpti on s upport in9 that strtcrent. In fact,

4 it's counter lntuitive. Iou sas the f lgur.s

5 tonight on the nuDber of .etrplane[!nts,. they

6 call thED. It Jus t nakcr no tcnse to say that

noise Ievcls are going to rlightly inc!aas a, and,

R yet you are projecting all thi s additional

9 aircratt traffic. It !aker no rense to.c. I l0 thlnk thcre's s oncthing fundaacntal Iy i.rong eith

'tl the inpact stat![ent in rcgard, to that

72 asse.Es!ent. t'l you have no data on thc type of SeeApp. 14 Response l4 aircraft, thclr nunbcr of llights, correlatcd IL,1.8.

cith noise level and tilc of day. Iou nccd to l6 sra thc distribution ot llight! bctrccn day and l7 ni9ht. the .xpccted nol!e lcvels fro! those r8 tltght.! are nccer!ary to tcll thc irpacts. lhe

19 Idn's rhich are thc !tand,ard !ca!urancnt urcd in

20 an irpact strtGrcnt could 9ct ruch ior3c, and zr you rcally don't have rny uay of knorinE hor

27 ruch uors c thcy arr Eolng to bc aithout thrt

23 br.clinc end uithout that di!tributlon bctr..n

P^r'LrsE E. 1l'l t"Lr va!. C!irr rrrD sHoirrr^J.D Rttoarrr Ir day and nighttl ne noirc levels. I 2 PinallY, and rost inPortantlY, SeeApp. 14 ResponseII.J.9. 3 therc is no discus!ion o! irPacts on hurans'

4 You prc!cnt a lot of statistlcs. lircraft nol3c sleep 5 is Lnoun to crclt. !P.Gch int'rCercnc' rnd

6 interferenc., lts tro prlrary ei fcct3. It

intcrferes tJi th Pcoplc's convcrsation3 ' You

8 can't hear Tv in your hous c. It Ior.r3 ProPerty

9 vaIueg. You can't llstGn to thc radio ' lhesc l0 are things peopl€ angagc in in their .vcryday tl Iif€.

thera is no irDact analY313. ' slrep l3 that sIccP lnterfcrcncc is a big thlng l{ lnterfercncc has bccn astociatcd cith t< strerr-rctatcd di s ca!ca, hyPcricnsion, lo cardlovrscular dltcar€s' thare ls no dltcustion

It of that.

18 t aLro hcard a lot rbout tracfic l9 lonight, Nou, I havcn't r.vieccd th. tralSic

20 porlion, but, agaIn, I didn't hcar onc person about the tt talk tonight, in thc Pr€scnting body' j,apact on hu.lnr that I lve tlong thcte

z3 artcrials. tgain, thcrc PcoPl€ arc going to bc

P-rcr,rs-e E. wtLLtxaN (' EFlr tM srroFittlJaD Rllotlll't I cxp€tiencing incrersed noisl!. thera are going

to b€ violations of thc air qual.tty standards.

Those violations creatc additional resBiratory SeeApp, l4 ResponseI I. I.2. 4 ill.nesser, and things tike tha t. Therc is no

l !ention o! that in the itrpact state!ent.

6 lou a!e talking about ireoplc inpacting huf,ans J,ives hcre, and 3o[rbody has

8 got to coBa to grips rrith that and address it.

9 It's jus t not thcrc right nor.

Ragarding nitigation Icasure3. I SeeApp. l4 ResponseII.B.7 It knos ex9ansion i3 goinq to co.c, I at uilling

L2 to accept that. I think se have to participatc

tith you in trying to IiniIize IrDacts. But, l4 frankly, as Hts pointed out earlier, our l5 9overnnent is not support I ng us right not. 1n lo that regard. l7 the i!pact rtat.!cnt talks about t8 an cxiEting Albany qounty policy, -No .ngin. l9 ruDups iD th. !j.ddle ot thc night.. lnybody sho See pp. t I-r82 through II-185. 20 lives nGrr thc alrport knosr that that Ir a

2r !i s lerding 3tatetGnt to !ay that that. s a 22 rltlgation lGlBure, b.cause, frtnkly, it i3n't

23 enforccd.

P^r:LtsE E. wtl.t.rla^r- (:Er?rlrED Srro1r L^.\tD Rlrol?lr I Nou, t an a citizan ol this

2 tosn. I eaDt to be Cor as lar at I can proJect

into thc futurc, but I srnt to havc torc

4 conftdcnc. that thlr govcrnrent l! 9oin9 to

tr protect tc. Frankly, to tay ln thc i'lPrct

6 rtatercnt thrt that'3 r rltigation lGtsurc and

7 it's not en!orccd docrn't gIvc lc a lot of

I confidcncc that govcrnlant it out thcrc looking

9 out lor ry lntcrcrt. I havc a rlght a8

10 cvarybody ln thi3 torn har a rtght to live in a j't heal thy and rr!c cnvlronrcnt. And, lrankly'

L2 i3n't baing donc riqht noir. 5or6thin9 has to be t't done about that tl.tuation. t4 f thinl oncc that !ituation i3

15 rasolved, tho!e runuPt in the rlddla o! the

It, night, you ara going to dcvcloD e lot o! t7 conlidcnce on tha Part ol thc P€oPl€ thet llvc ls in thc corrunlty that you ara out thcrc to l9 protcct us. lnd rq'Il ruDPort rhat you rrc

20 doing, but you've got to shos uc thrt you carr

2L about us, capcc iaI ly cith rcsP'ct to tho!c 22 en9ine run upr .

23 lnothcr thing that I thtnk rould

P^tiLtNE E, la'tt.t.lxax (: citr"reo sxoi-rr^.tD RlroFrEi be vcry effective could bG a Prohibit ion on

2 nightti!re opcratlons. That'3 Ientioned in thc 3 itrpact statelrnt. f think lt, s an outrtanding SeeApp. 14 ResponseII.J.l0. 4 idca. PeopIG nc€d to be able to rleep. fle all 5 need to rechargc at nighi rnd you go to eork

6 du!ing the day. ff you go to rork tlrcd, you're

crabby. lou're crabby to your tanily. tou,re

I crabby to you! bos s, a lot o! confllct in tha 9 offic.s and ln !artliGs, And tJhat,s it 10 attributable to? Becaurc you didn.t gct a Eood lt ni9ht's !lcep. ft round, very rlrp.l.e but that, t2 in fact, Ir uhat happ.ns. Anal thcre are a Lot l3 j,llncrrer of causcd by rlcep interfcrence, ' 1{ There r a trerendous ilpact in tcr!s of hunan 15 illnesscs and Lort rages !ro[ pcogl e uho can. t l6 3l ccp at niqht.

Finally, t uant to crghrslze

1B aga i n, I al not hcra to oppo.c this thing. I l9 thlnl tha toen har rad,. r good cffort, but thcre

20 neads to ba a Iot o! irprovcr.nt in that irprct 2l atltcrant, and f hopc ue can rll uork togcth.r z2 and do that.

23 thank you v.ry tuch.

P^cLtNE E. Wrl,ur^.s Cr*?rrrzD S||oi?||rsD RrratrGi I l.tR. Pr,tff : (Indicating. ) gentlcaen 2 llR. CoNROY! Yca,

3 nanc 1s Ji,n Conroy, and I a! 6lPloyrd uith thc

I ccnter for Econoaic Grosth a! a corrunlty

d.eveloBncnt consultant. In thet caPaclty, I 'ejor lrn'l- 6 have barn rrorking rith a nulbcr of,

7 oen?rs rho have PtoPertics uithin thc airPolt dra!t cEIs' sc I cEIs arca' upon revicu of the 9 have a fe!,, !ajor collcntt,

rtacaslcnt of App. 14 10 Nulbcr l" the See ResponseII H.5. I1 ri tigat ion ! cca bercd on thc lact that 95 n'cdG't to l2 pcrccnt of roadl,ay ilProvencnt! t3 acconnodate groHth in the !l!Port arca, that nGe grouth alone' 14 thcy !houlal be attributcd to tq is absurd. This calculrtton doct not includc inlrrttructur' 16 ru!!icicnt allouancG !or cxirting problers anil ilc!ici.nct.r slthin thc arc.. thrt 'any ot 1E Thclc It Gvidencc

19 thc trenrportation irPtovcrcntt recolrcnd'd in

today to hrndl' cxisting 20 th. ctra!t are nccdcd tra!tic, In fact, visturlly cvcry !aJor

currGntly 2Z lnt.rrcctlon in thc ttudy rrea

23 opcratct at r !aiIcd lcvcl of tcrvlcc during

PasLls"E E wllulaax cE;tttt!D stroktllltD Rlto..tl't I peak hour3.

2 the Capital District stated' as $as 3 transportation Colnittee has { polnteal out carlier, that tuch of the tra! f ic ln or through f this area i3 background iia!fic

a trafEic, othet trafflc de!and is generatGd by County 7 i ncreas ed pas 3cnger loa't of the llbany

I airport. Stilt other tra!fic is caut ed by

lorc cars 9 social change uhich has resulted 1n tn per !ariIy and !ore drivcrs Per household' Non'

ucrc adcguat'ly addrcrt'd in l1 of thete influcnces

L' the draft plrn.

t? At thc outset of the rtudy, thc

that l4 consultantE rcc ogni z ed thit in saYing

'E dcvel opi ng f,cat ible iFproveIents at ce!ta i n

16 locationt could not bc accorDlithcd to Provi'le

1'' adeguatc l"vcl of scrv!,cc D. Exit 18 t ncw no!th-south art€tial, l9 3 off thc Northray, Route 7 exPanslor, and

20 inprovcrcnts to t lbany-shaket and tlbtny-

'natervlict Road3, and rany o€ th' othcr traffic zz lngrovcrents rcco!!cndcd in thc !tudy ate

?3 required today. tt'3 not Jutti!l'ablc to

P^tilti- D E. lTt LLI !a^i.. Cstrr"tao srtofttttrxo Rtto-a!l al locate 95 percent of thcs e cost3 to nelf

dev.lopl|ent.

thc !,robI.r !rill only gct rorse

4 lf thc county and torn do nothlng to tolva thcae

5 lonq3tanlting trattic p"oii."", cvcn 1f no n.u

6 buililing3 rrc avar conrtructcd in thc arra.

civcn thc cott of thrr e ritigrting te.s, the

a s tagnan t cconory anat thc atrount o! devGloPaent

9 proporcd undcr thc loderate grosth rccnario, it l0 is unllkely that tharc irProver.ntc slll evcr bc ll !adc througth tha trplcrcntatlon ol ruch an t2 unbalanced and unfrir !itigation Perccntage.

13 fhere is 3irpIy not cnough derand or absorption

1{ rate tor the Ievcl of dcvclop!€nt necetsery to

l5 pay thcac artronorical lGca. t6 Thc trcond Point' tha oriErlon SeeAgg.14 ResponseII.B.7, t7 of rccGnt d,!tcurtionr rbout orncr!hlD rnd l8 dcvclopaent o! thc airgott is anothcr raJor

l9 dcficl.ncy in th. dra!t cEIs. Th. trilurc o! o! a thc rtuaty to adcgurtcly avaluatc thG ilPtct 2L nu!bar of dlttcrcnt dcvaloprent rcanario3 and

22 optlons, includinE thc Aotentl.l .nlarqalGnt ol

23 D.rking lacj. litics, reallEnrent o! roadsays, the

P^cLr--E E. wl|.t.rla^s Crr,rttrtD saorlir^'. g RlrorrER I cxpansion of the terBinaI, l3 a serious !lar in

2 thc cntire Projcct, ehich !ay Deke its !indlngg

5 troot atter a final a irport construction plan l!

4 ilplcranted, !PeciflcallY, r,hen th.3e Proposal'E

inclualral a alraratic increase in the siza o!

6 progerties used !or airPort PurPoEcl.

7 Final1y, the settlelcnt upon seeApp. 14 ResDonseI I I.8.1. B three baric devel opr.nt sccnarioa iE too

9 sinpllrtlc for !uch a colDlex end i!Dortant l0 regional area . Littlc uork i3 Gvidcnt as to

tt reallstic absorption rate ol .ith.r ol thc

12 devaloD!cnt scGnlrios. the no-gtor.th oPtion,

t3 thc high-groHth optlon, rnd thG targct-grouth

1{ option do not provide 3ufClcicnt di3cutsion on

l5 thc potent iaI lix o! thcse 3 cenarior or on th.

l6 gossibiLity that c.rtain arca! !ay bc !ultcd foa

L7 high grouth shils oth.rr rre not. lhit rtudy

18 does not rdcgurtcly addrcts the varlad

l9 d€valoprcnt eltarnati,va3 rhich arc Doss!blq.

20 In closing, I rant to 3aY that SeeApp. 14 ResponseII.B.7 2l thc property ounart rrlth tho. f'v. collaboratcd 22 in thir cftott.ll rrnt thc alrport to bc

z3 iiprovcat to a !ir3t clr33 rcgl.onal frcility

P^cLr:{E E. wtlltx^la Ctr?rrrcD s|.otal|^"{o Rztort!i I support th. toun of Colonic in the cEIS

2 progran. lhe irprovc.ant ot thc airport uil!.

3 reguire conclderablc irprovatGnt to the cxisting

I road syttar, and thctc ProPerty osnars arG not

6 opposcd to particlpatirtg'in r !air allocatlon ot

5 th. irpr6vcr.nt cortr, but thc plan to allocete

these co!ts lncludcd 1n th! draft cEIS is

I unacseDtable.

9 Pl,aare acccgt thGra corlentr a!

10 prall!inary, ns rascrva the right to rubrit tl aalditionil crittcn .atcrlal in the brlancc of

L2 the corncnt Dcrioil .

13 thank you vcry ruch. l{ l.lR. PLltt: (Indlcating. )

15 Hn. t|OR]itAt{r l,ty n.r. is Craig

16 llorran. I'! rlth coopar, Erving, Sevrg€, f,olrn

!t end Ecllcr, attornayr ln tlbany, pc rcprcrGnt

18 rcvcral partiat cho orn dcvelopablc land ulthln l9 this arca. f'd likG to raLc a !.r €orrenEr.

20 Fit!t PoPulatlon' I thlnl Hrs. SeeApp. 14 ResponselI.A.1. 2l nela uas right ln raying that you ato not havc to

2Z predict a doorrday rccnarlo barcd on poPulatlon

23 hi3tory in thi! araa. the ccnsus !lgures are

P^c!!!rE E- wrrl.tr^i- C zitrtr Eo SBotrrri^-YD Rrrorttt ln. They shoiJ just 3 percent grosth in the ycars' z entire loun of Colonie over tha last ten uhich i.s a substantial, a vcry sub! tantial

d dccli nc over hi3torical grorrth in thc Toun oE

5 colonie.

You a lso havc to conaider that SeeApp. 14 ResponseI L8,1. Hith the dcvelopers 8ay be advancinq ProPosal3

a toun to sinply protect thcir intcrest, Frotcct to 9 thcir ri9ht3 in thc future |.lthout any tnt'nt t0 develop the proPcrty lrtcdiatcly. AIso uP' 11 dcvclopcrr aay bc advancing 9roPo3als to sign

!t le-rsces, ulth thc hoDe o! tignlng uP les!cc3 ln

13 order to take thc leater to thc bank end thcrcby t4 finance thcir dcvrlop!cnt3. ?hc lessees lay

15 never apPear; theretors, thotG d.valoPrcntt ray

I5 navcr happcn,

seconitly. thc lrprovrrentt to be SeeApp. 14 ResponseII.0.9. 18 radc in th.tc hlgheayt, shich It thc Prlrrry

19 caurc o! the llprct !cel or the rttlgatlon fec,

o! thc toltn a! rcll as 20 nill beneCit all citltcnt

zl .xitti.n9 bu!in€stos. cl.arty, this rill bcnef it to b' 22 tha nan butinca rc! ar rcl l, but thar' hrt

1J solc lharlng at bctscGn cxlrting burlncst.t,

Pac!t-_E E. wtl.t.tx^:s c?irr!r!D srroFta^xD natorlat existing rcaidencas aDd nar regldcnca! lnd ncu

2 businGttcs.

3 Ncxt, I don't think thc rtualy SeeApp. 14 ResoonseII.0.l. 4 tates lnto account tlx rcvanucs gGncratcd fof

5 thc rtatc and county in thc !or! o! salar and

6 payroll taxrr. Salcs taxa3, !ot cxaIDle, on

7 sone !acilitica rith j.n the toun ot people rrho! I

I aLrcady rcprcsint and rho alraady have r

o builaltng up irould gcnsrate 9{0 tilllon rorth of

ral.s. that could bc 92.8 lill'ion at 7 gerccnt

ralcs tax. that rlonc rould be ruffici€nt to t2, cover r largc portion ot the uotL to bc done on

!'l the!e h j^ghrays, Obvlously, ralGr taraes rr.

rcvanue! !or thc ttatc, county, tnd toyn, and

I5 thcy arc rharld anong thota thrcc taxlng

TO organiz.tions. thorc rhoul'd bc contlilercal Jult t7 as rny othcr trr, Peyroll trxcr !irllrrly. l8 thc rltig.tlon !c.3 ProPotcd -- I SeeApp. 14 ResoonseII.0.3. to thlnk a nurbcr o! pcolrlc hava said thir -- rould

20 hlv. N vcry tcrlous irDact on thG dcvrloPlcnt

2L prorpec!s. .dding bctec.n l5 end 2O prrc.nt oC

22 thr c03t o! .n o!Cicc bui lding in thi r arca.

23 Can our rrca afford to havc this tyDa o!

Prcr.rr- e E. l|tlLrx^x (:E*TrFrzD sfl orttr.^-rO Rltorrti I rastrlction tn th13 rec€3sionary'nvlroDrcnt? z think you havc to cons id€r that ' Next, uill !ull crcdit be givcn SeeApp. 14 ResponseII.0.5. edvancl ng thc intent for alI on-sitc devcloPrent

5 of the GEIS?

6 tatalitionaIIY, I thtnk You have SeeApp. 14 ResponseII'8.8. toun the Lcgal qucstion. Hor, rill the Procced

to collcct Ditigation ! ees on beh al f of the re to havc to 9 rtate and the county? Are 9oin9 l0 uait !or ! tatc lagis lation in ordcr to ellou the of attang'rcnt rlth 1',| state to accePt this tyPc the tovn or the county tf the !i tigation f.c8 t'l are golng to bc collsctcd on bchalf ol thc l4 strte, Frankly, I havcn't heard anybody 3ay ' llc IR that the stlte is in !avor of this ilroPotel to don't knoe rhcrc thc Cuoro tdlini3trrtlon or

rrha,tcver, thc state it!elf, stands on this tyPG

18 of concept. obvlourly, thcra are a nufbcr ot to clusG developrcnt to l9 progra!s in thQ 3trta 20 occur !rithln thc statc. I eondcr rhat thelt

rcaction rrould be to Proposalt rhlch, i'n z2 cssance, sould hava thc af!act of rcducing th'

ths rtatc' can 23 e!ount ot d.vclop!cnt uithln

ParLr:r E E.'!ttt.L!!a^-_ ('Ef,tt ttto sHort||lsD Ratoltlt that be i[9o!ed lerely tor the for{n of Colonic

2 or sill that bc iDpos€d rtatauide? It rccns to

3 re it'3 going to occat ion dclay ralting tor thc

I strte to take uD ltr rlnd. It do.sn't tcGtr I ik.

5 this is goirg to takc riEht off. Ilthough I

6 knor the tosn has thc BoEht Road !itigrtion fcc

sltuation already in cffcct.

ou, f thj.nk r.rith rcrpect to the

9 air gual ity, fj.nally, you EiEht uant to con3idcr t0 that thc rtate and, tha tGdcral Eovernrcnt arc in

thc procc!r ot at lcar t ItoPoting and in tola

12 car rr cnacting chang.s in alr gual i ty .ni r g ion

13 s tandards for auto[obiIca. obvlously, no onG l4 santE to bteathe pol.lutcd air. fhet's one of

I5 our big factors in our environncnt rlght not"' t6 Auto crlrrlonr arc Drobrbly thc nurbcr onc

pollutcr. But I thtnk th.t has to bG edd,rc!scd l8 and is being aaldr€srad vcry strcnuout ly tight l9 nou at thc rtatc and led,cral lavel.

20 I aton't knou that you can do very seeApp. 14 ResoonseII.t.3. 2r !uch at the local levcl oth.r th.n to Itop 22 dcvclopIents rnd stog traCfic to dcrl ei th

23 pollution fron autolobilca. i I PAcLt!-E E. l^tLLtv^i-- (_lFrtttED Saotrr|.^'llD Rtrort!& thank You I MR. PLltt: Ur' Burhaatter'

tlR' BURHUTSTER: I'n Ed I { Burlaster, tlbany County..Iegitlator' thc notth rnd of reprerent thc atea around a lot o! noise about the b airPort. oe've hcard uords spoken' The bigqcat 7 airport, a Iot oE pp.II-182 i5 the revving up of thcn airplanas See I probl cn is, throughII-185. 'en' of, Your they uork onto One 9 at night shen have co[!utsr Planes rathcr] l0 rtudies, it shous r€ the i increasc !'as to rore 6! than Jets ' The note that stu'ly ' but co!ruters, rhich f agrec tJlth of !'otking on the 't1 that brings thc Problen t"ork on the jets ' but II airplancs . Thcy couldn't that'5 the corluter planes' and 15 they can i|ork on rith the noi 3c ' the to uhcrc irc gct thc Problar planes' i'hcn re got the corlutrr 1? noise increasGd thcre' Thcy're don' l8 they neve! rork on the J'tt fhcy don't have the l9 at thc biEgcr rirgorts' 'c!' 20 !acilities herc to sork ooto

anybody rho'd taY that t! ts thcte grorth' I 'lon't 22 !re're not going to have this nc didn't have the grocth 23 knos. I'al hoPc rc

P^cL!-..E E. larl.!t!i^!r CEft t?lED 5toFtr|lrtD Rttoriln fEdsardd Eurhr!.st.') gg

have to plan lor it and that.s t{hat you pcople

are doing, 3o I congratulatc you on your 3tudy.

't lnd anybody tha t rays ue don't

4 ncad role uork oD the roads, ucll, Albany-shaker

5 noad, rrhrn thcy say thcy are EoLng through

6 ll bany-Shakcr noad, thcy. re not going to the

airi)ort. fIl you have to do ls drive ovcr there

I and !ee !rhich eay thcy are going at {!00 o,clock

at night. They'rc coning out of the airport,

coning off of AIbany-Shaker Road,, the bu3in.sscs

It cstablishcd thcre. Paul Cooney hcre, the county t2 rngincea, eill verify that, I'l surc. iou go

13 over therc at 4s00 o'clock and ju3t try to g.t l4 I out on Routc 7; anal iE you rc aoing the oth.r

t.ay ln thc Dorning, you ju3t try to 9o tha other l5 eay ' t? So as soon as that project is t8 under ray, ec nacd thc ioncy. llc ncad lolcone t9 to pay for it. Oho j,s golng to pay tor lt? f SeeApp. 14 ResponseI I.8.8. z0 don't knou, liittgrting fcca? The stet. and thc

ZL Cedera I govarnlcnt i3 not golng to do it.

22 Albany County? I suggcatcd that t! rc'rc going

to turn thc a irport ovar to !otconc, re tut.n

PAt'Lt.- E E. la'tLLt!t^s c!rtltt aD lltoF?lrND Rlroff!i !rardd gurhBaster

I that road over to airport, If ue can't take the

-- FAf says rre can't take thc noney out of the

3 airport. nel l. Iet's givc th. !oad to the

4 airport and then thc noney will not be a

5 profit. It tJill le a aetrirent. It will be

paying for Al bany-Shaker Road, and the peogle 7 tha! cause the probl.a HiII bc the users of the

at

So that's the lray re can pay for

10 Albany-Shaker Road. ?urn it over to the tlbany

tl County lirport. FAA rays ee can't take tne

'lt roney out and put it into the gcncral fund.

t1 9lell, the airport ouns the road. If He dialn.t ld have the airport, ee flouldn't havc the probieo ta on Al bany-Shakcr Road; and lf re dldn, t h.vc

16 Albany-Shaker Road, re gouldn,t hava an j,rport. l7 a So thrre'r hos re can ,olve onc r8 DrobJ,en, l9 lnd anybody that knorrs, se havc

20 noise around that airgort. tatkiDg about not zt having flights cote Ln after t0:00, 11r00 o'clock !aybe at niEht, rclI, if th.re'J an

23 airplana up therc, I,r rurc thc controt I cr isn,ti

Prr'r-tr-e E wtLt.tx^:r Ct?rl !r En stiorlrr:-rt D Btto*Tr i 100

: 'I'E I qoinq to 3ay, 3orry. llc're cloted lor the it's good night. Go onto the nex! airPolt" So

ldca, but I'n surc it docrn't uork' lt i3n

{ Practical. 'for 5 thank you Your tirs.

o (tpPlau!e')

7 R. ZADBINSKt3 l'lY narr ls l'like Drive' E' zadbinski I Iive at I LarksPur

9 I lron't belabor the polnt. I

sa'|t to addrcss the qucation o! nighttirc : 1t runups, siaPty bacaute t belicvc i-t uas totally drrft docuf,cn l ' t2 inadequa !cly addrc a r cd in thc

13 And t have rub! i ttad r oic urittcn correDts, but to everyone I4 I just ornt to lakc thcE rval'lablc

t5 here, pp.II-182 l6 lurbcr l, I thlnk carrier3 , See through II-fS5. l'int'nrnc' rork at the DCrforninE o!!-hour

l8 alrport thould be contact.d. and thclr P!erent for !uch eotk 19 and futurc necds and raquitc'cnts

20 .nat f acil.l.tl.s shoutd bc dcllnGd. pp. I r-182 2' Just uhich rcPtirr and See 2l throughI I-185. 22 scrvlc.s acturlly rGquirc that cnginGs be tun up

in ordcr to 23 !or tGrting 3hould b' deterlined

PAuLti_E E wll.t.li^t_ ('Efi tt!ED stloli'||^-'rD RllollER f Michael zadbinski l 101

avoid necdless and gratuitous runups '

3. Careful neasure.ent of the Seepp. II-182 through lI-185. noise generated by the various Iaintenance

4 practices shoul.d be undertaken. fhis

f inforuat i on in conjunction ei th nunber 2 above

o cou Id then bc used by planners as the basi3 for

1 preParing rational airport policies i'hich $ouId

at restrict or other!ri5e rcgulate proc edurrs 1.,hich

gcnerate unacceptabla noise leve.l t during qui et

hours , r{hile al lot{ing raintcnanc e gers onnel the

qreates-t Practical flay for cotrpI€ting their necessary !rork. r1 Nor i !JiIl. !ove into a !ection

that t .thi nk is of vital lEportance Particularly rE since we've I een that the pto j cc tion3 !or

propcller-drivcn airPlanca, that i9, thc air

L7 taxi operation, have been ray up and totally of f

1B basc. Projccted exPanslon of hangcr facilitica SeeApp. 14 ResponseII.J. t rq tor prop-driven plancr, their dc! ign,

20 consr,ructlon, Iocation and orirntation $i!hin

the airport, and th. Irpact of thcse variablca on noisc gcncration rrlthin tha! 3hould bc

d.iscursad.

PAa'LINE E. wtLt.rxa>- <'Errtrt?D saoF rr^.{ D RtrotiEi for I A discussion of gros Pects SeeApp. 14 ResoonseII.J.1. 2 nitigating noise by ProPGr design of traintenance

facilitics should bc undcrtrken '

4 CurrentlY,. runuPs arG Pcrf,oricd bc d'siqned l out ln th. oPen' could Cacifities

Hhich rould atlou raintenance to be Perforned

7 during the night hours shilc containing or

o attenuating thc noise in soDe say, i'c., farger tcsts 9 hangcr facilitica that r,ould alloe thete

10 to bc done indoors? Arc there any landE cape SeeApp. 14 ResponseII.J.2. of tcchniques , e,9., PIanting3 or Dodltication t2 terrain uhich could be crploycd to contain th.se that 13 nai ntenance areas and isolatc the noise

they gen.rata? l5 My ob3crvatton oE noi!c g.nerated SeeApp. 14 ResponseI I..r. 4. certain rt) by prog-drivcn Dlanes rcv'al'cd th't

It lodels of aircraft arc contiderably noi!icr than

I8 othcrs. In liEht of this' I lcel that tolc r9 diseustion of this fact be includcd -- in

to thc rix of Dl'an€3 20 particular, hor aatJurtlcnts 2r at th. alrport r.y be u3.d to !itig.tc nighttile for 22 noi!e 1n a tranner tiIilar to that dc!cribed

23 jct planes in section J.

PArLtsE E lal!-LIl'iAs ('t'|tr?rEo stroF trltd RttoriEa (Hichacl Zadbinst(i\ 103 APP.14 considerable re5 earch on See ( I Responserr I pro pe:1er des ign ai!led at increasing fuel

noise has bcen J ef f icicncy and reducing the undertaken and continue3' tlhat t'ould be tachnology on ) !npact oi adoPt!on ot this nei'' and f,uture airPort opcrati ons ? And do currcnt to adopt 7 tikely !uture carriets havc any Plans that t thie technoloqy? In a !|anner sinilar to

J regarding jets ' uha t 9 discussed in section for s teps can be takcn to provide incentive3

qu eter pl'ancs? l1 ca rr i ers to utili2c i 14 It has been nY obs arvation that SeeAPP' t2 Responserr.,1.6. signi ficant rol e 't1 atnospheric conditions Play a

in gropigating noice generated at the a:rport' in grcater tR This phenoDenon !houtd bc exaninad t6 detail and results and inPIic!tions discusred in' rt the report. j' pp. r I-182 l8 9l thout anY a!!cctivc DhYsical See through I I-185- ground-bascd nolsc' shet 19 control^5 to attenuate 20 could be done to snforcc currant regulatlons on L't !c glve th€ qcneration o! nighttilc nois€? cxP6ricnce sith 2Z you a tittlc brckglound on ty

-- o! the -- of the ZJ the ragulation of thc

P.rrurs a E l$t LLt:{^i- Cttl.itttED st|otalL^"tD Rltoitct ( i chrc.l zedbinski'l 104

I r.gulations that arc cur:.ently in place. There

ls no regulatlon. And the only relief , al though

it's bcen, at bca t, a gartial ralief, that t

4 have bccn able to obtain by cilling the upper _i.3

5 Ievel ranagcrcnt o! th€ offcnding airlincs and

ta lking to them alirectly. They have a probtc[,

though, in that the trin olEcnders arc both

hcadquartered out of toirn rnd they can't ua tch

9 r,hat j.s going on at the airPort day- j'n and

10 day-out.

It LateIy, f havc taken to golng

over 3r00, {rOO, 5!00 o'clock in th€ lorning tnd

taklng dot{n planc rcglstration nurbcrs and l4 providing that inforlation and tha tire of l5 runups to thc [anag€tcnt, lh.y havc be.D t4 rcrpon!lv€, but they can't stay on toD of it' t7 llc nccd to look lnto rhat crn bc dona to anlorce rQ thc rcaulatj,ont that ara currently in 9lace, rnd

I9 I think thrt that nccdr to be addrc!3ed. ln thc

dra f t docuncnt.

'tl f thi nk 1.r should .l,so rariously SeeApp. 14 ResoonseII.J.7. 22 considcr uhat tha ilDact of exPanding thc guict

23 hours at thr airport !ron the qurrQnt !idnight

P^c Lr!r E E. wt !!t!.^.- ('!ttttt !D sxoiTS^.rao R!aoitat| (Michael zadbin!ki) 105

I to 5r00 a.n. to say 11r00 p.n. to 7r00 a.n. --

2 what that inPact t,tould bc on airPort operations '

lrhat the econonic inpact uould be, et cctcra'

4 Nonc of thcse Points are

5 addrcsscd. th. only corrent, or the only

5 s ta ten€n t nade in the dra!t docuient about 7 propeller-driven a!rplanea is that they don't

8 nake as nuch nolse as jets. welI, I think tha'-

9 that is a totally inadequate handl ing of the l0 guestion of DroPel Icr airPLanc noise genera ted ll during quiet hours . I think you IuJ t be 9ettlng

1't that i dea tha t it'3 bothering a Iot of PeoPle

13 now, and it's soDething that really needs to be uelI as Looked at both by thc P! anning boatd as

the c I ough, Harbour. lo thank You. ' t7 fln. PLltT3 (IndicatIng. ) r8 MR. lloNfEIno: Thank You' tlY

naIe is John lilonteiro and f aH co-chairran of a

20 grouP in Colonie and t sork on caslc lor an ,) .| env ironncnta I srrvtcea Eroup, and I'd ba!ically 2Z Iike to give you torc !cGdback f 9u.st on thc

draft pi.ecc.

P.\ r: Lts- E E. W! Llt!a^r- C!rrr rr!D SfiorrrH^-ro nrtortEi First of all, let De sry that se

arc pleased to !ee thc tosn , thc county end thc

village undertalc this study. Cc think it'3 a

d great oDportunlty f,or u3,as rctldentt and also

!oIks rrho are conccrned about that haPPcn3 1n

6 our toun to look rt a lajor Itea io our toun and

have input in tcras o! erh.t rrill haPpen ln that

tt area versus a sort of pieccneal Procc!5 that sas cole in to thG 9 ongoinq ehere sol.body tJould Just

10 pl.anning board at any given tine and Brcrcnt

It their progosal. so for that, ec thank you vcry

nuch. the first thinq I uoul

14 not 3ure eho it tras, talkad about r lodarate

scenario' I don't think thcrG i3 a loderatc

l6 sccnario. f rctn I don't call ? rillion tqul!e

!eet o! o!!ic€ rPecc a :odGrltc sccntrlo'

l8 I think se llso 3tand elth tole SeeApp. 14 Response l9 of the othcr 39eakar3 todaY that, to ur, both .tI.B. 15. 20 tccnarl oE are llso not acccptable for a nur bc r alrcady bccn of reesong, a nurbet o! uhich havc

statcd. 9le !ecl thet the i!Dact thet cven the

target scenarlo !rould have in thc area,

PIt.Ltse E \a'tLLtYAr (-!r?rrt!D SNoit||!.{D Rltort!r espccially nou heati n9 the objection of the

folks that uould be building this regarding

3 nitigation fees, I think rrou 1d be potential ly 1l draDatic not only gn our Eaxes as res idenEs __

f, and ue are al,so concerned about that.

ts far as the inpact on the

environnent, iJe are ercouraged by the section that Has Drepared in the draft GEfS, Houever. I

9 quess this is both guestions and aLso

!n staterents, LUl.lACis refcrrcd to in the alaaf t

It docuaenl, ft llat a,Iso rcferled to in a presentation today, I nutber of thc SeeApp. 14 Response ieconnendation nade by LUuAC havc never been II. B..9. accepted ,n by the toun board, so f not ,urc hor.

I5 they are referred to ln ehat context, l6 fn addition, t h.y also spoke

1'' during the Drescntation about thc Hatershed 18 Iegislation that's in glace ln the torn. I tcl don't knou if you noticc or not, but that i3 no e0 gua rantee tha t devcloplent ri 1l not occu, sithin

2l 100 feat of a 3 trear . ncc.ntly, the toun uat

aPgroachcd,, and there is r cotElttce for

23 variaDce. tt sar agprorchcd by thc ichaalg

Prr: ur-_ e E ll'rLLt!.a:f ('ti'trrt ED s'|oFl8!t.D R!torttt to d€vel'op uell 1 Group, and they tdcre atlor{ed i3 not a 7 ei thi n 100 Eect o! a strcan. So that

quarantia that that land th.re Hill be

4 Protectcd, as ucl I ' I think tnat ttrc Iosr of oPen a 6 space in that arcr is ccrtainly detrlrlnta1 to has Iost toun uhich over the I'a3t ten ycars

B significant area3, and f think that se really SeeApp. 14 ResponseII.D' 1. sPacc in the toen t need to Look at an oPcn Plan you ' 10 vQrrus jutt the grccn bcl tt that rccorlend I have lhore arc baslcally buffer zon"' and to knou l2 been to anough Planning board ncctings on dcvelopcrs' that thore ucrc alsayt requir'd

14 to a cQrtaln extcnt' lle sould I lke to Ee' oe rould like to tonething bigEer than that'

l5 rca an rciual oPcn sDacc DIen' -- I 't7 sor€rhat conlut lng and rayba thc docure'lt' l8 just atlatn't Plck it uP in rE.allng job in Pointing out l9 but you did an cxccllcnt shat thc !itigation !c:! eould be on davcloPGrs ' tor'n I have no idea But as. reaid'nt of this ' in 22 shat the cost uilt be on l' as a taxpaycr

itProvcleDtt arc donc and 23 terlt of, oncc tn"c

P.rt: Lr-.. E E la't LLIrAr- cal?rrrED sraortx^-\D Rttorlca and they're deed.ed over to the toun, it noi.t

2 becoIles try responsibility out ot ny poctaet to

i|Iprove it and to [aintain it, anat t guess nore tl so the naintenance of these inpaovenents. gthat See App, 14 ResponseII'0'16' 5 is that going to do to rc as a taxpayer?

6 Bccause it is sy understanding that lr not going

7 to cotre out of the nitiqation fees, I r{ould I like to aee sone projection in tertrs oe shat

9 rould be thc cost oE naintaining this

l0 infrastructure over .aybe a pro jcctcat study

1l pcriod. I think that that'r ilportant, 12 especially given the kind ;! voluDc, you are

13 anticipating to travel thcse road,s.

14 f guess -- and f 'n going to be

15 bricf becau3c i,t'r gctting late. The cEfS, as I I5 undarstand, lt, is a tool. f rouLd, Jurt lGavc, I. l7 9uess, lir. PIatt and rcnbcr3 o! th. planning

I8 board Hith this in rlndi that once a final

19 d.ocutcnt is drveloped, and evarybody has had ZO thair ray and, hopef ul,ly, therc is a product

2l whlch is acceptable to cveryon. -- r,hcthcr it be 22 thc folks that arc hcre rrho are interagted !n

23 devcLoping, thc residcnts that are conccrned

P^r!.rse E. wtl-ulr^N ('tt,rttt!D Sl|otttt.|!D RltoitER the gaoPle 1 about uhat's hapPening to our tot'n,

that I ive near the airPort -- once that is done, the tosn ull'1 14 I hoPc that the ptanning board and SeeApp. Response end !tick to it. 4 adoBt it and loll,ord lt I I. B.7. '"'ve had 5 tn the 0." t, DI'rnning

tools and, untortunately, th.y havc not becn not hePPen uith 7 us cd, and I hoPc that that rJil I

I this.

9 lhanL You. (In'licating ' ) l0 r'ln. PLATTt l1 R. AEnGNER: l,lY nale is John

of the coalition 1') Bergnar. 1'! a PasE Dres id'nt l'l o€ Horeouners and Prcstdcnt ot Eattrrn League' and then tHo I4 I have tuo corlcntt

I5 qucs tions on the thing. ir i'c dctlnitalY 14 l5 uY fir3t cor!cnt SeeAPp. Response l7 do n€ed devcloPlGnt bacau!a onc o! th€ rcasons It.B.7.'l uP this !'I I it 12 t8 thc tosn tax lncraasr coring

l9 Derccnt i! thGre hltn't bGcn rnough colr'rcia:' that' rnd uc hav' alsayg 20 dcvatoplcnt to ovcrrldc 2L rcli€d on cxPandi ng grorth to L€cP the taxca arc going to start 2Z Io!r, and thet'3 thy th'y

z3 incrcas ing '

Prct r-..e E wll.r.tli^s t'zrtttt Eo StloFrt|lro Rttorilt i uY second conncnt i3 I agree t"ith SeeApp. 14 ResponseII.0.15. soneone f,roa thc Eusiness Counci L tha t a special

tax dis trict should probably be established in

that area becaus e that eay the na intenance of

thc roads and thc infras truc turc could a I3o be

6 handlcd through the special tax district lf it

lras established r{i th that c Iaus e and not just

I established to pay off the original. things. If

you did establish one' you eould have to f ind

10 3o e say that you could dran the Iine to exclude

1l the houses that are buried in thc !lddIe of that

area, bccause they could never afford to pay

t3 sorething like a special tax district on the

th i n9, or raybc thcrc's other uays of doing it.

l5 there are oany lrays that you can e3tablish a

l6 diEtrict.

'It f.ly teo qu€sti.ons rre on

l8 !ransportation rnd pollibty i! the angincer for

!q trans porta ti on could anseer thc! tonlght, that -- 20 uould bc good; and if h. couldn't, thcn

Onc rag on your 9latervl let-

22 shaker Road tunn.l., tunncl' und!r

23 llaterv!,ict-ShaLcr Roaat. I lookcd at thc study

Pe,t:r.rs-.a E l^'l!.t.tlaas ('arrrtreD sraoirr|^.\o RttoitEt t

I and the Like, and it seeBE to rc that the -- z Northuay at sonetin.r approach ing caPaci ty

and rany ot the geogle $ho uork uith ne no urc Routc { longer sould rid€ thc Northuay' thcy

5 9 because they can't rtand thc Northuay

anynore. I sork in dorntosn tlbany' It rae[s SeeApp. 14 ResponseIl.H.25' to re that if you Put a tunnel raconnacting that doca I glatarvliet-shaker Road, the tra!fic

9 not 9o onto the Northsay -- you are blocked to ' bound i 10 go to the ucst, un les s you re Schcncctady

1t !ost of the traf!ic is saratoga bound -- siLl bc hour t2 dutrpcd onto Route 9' Route 9 during rush

l3 is alrcady a lcs5. so lt tecns to re the tunnel

riould irprove traf!ic tn the airport arca and

15 jurt nove th8 Probla! ovcr to Routc 9. : tcchnical gu"tion 16 And thG sccond ' t7 f have is, you are racorl€naling e rl'x-lane Routc,

tce sh.re !ro! your Projections l8 7, tfhich t can , t9 thc traflic uould n€ad a six-lanG Routc 7, rnd i3 undcru!cd ' z0 you htve al3o statad that Exit 5 2l thc one qucation I havc is, if you look on thc the airport, Sicker Road e" cut in tso by

23 expansion of tha northsest runHeY Due to noice;

PAa:t-tsE E. wtlu!{^s c ! rtt tt ED sxoFi|ll"!D RElott!i aba tenent, all the bui ldings and all the land 'o around KeIly Road -- or is it Kel ly tvenue? f

not quite certain -- i3 ouned by thc county.

4 AII the Iand bctHeen the dead end of sick?r Road

and Kelly Avenue 1s ownc; by thc county, If you SeeApp. 14 ResoonseII.H.19. 6 uere to connect Sicker Road to KeIfy avenue,

1 Kel.Ly Avenue connects to old Nl s kayuna Road

uhich goes dolrn to Exit 5' you eould havc a tt{o-

lane service road south of Route 7' You ro uouldn't have to Pay the extraordinrry cotts of

tt land acquisltion for uidening Routc 7 to tix that ras Dever 1) tanes' And I uas curious r,hy

t? con s idered or appearr to have been lookcd into.

l,{R. COfltlAYr To be honest i'ith

tq you, ue have a rtenographar here and all the

t6 co!trants are being takcn dosn' I thi nk nc nccd'

L7 3ore tine lo take a look at that in order to

18 !uIIy adalrets -- to Eiva you a responsiblc

t

brought to our attcntion' tle sould likc to 2Z spcnd a littIe tire to look at it'

z5 I,IR. E ER6NER I I had !cntion.d it

PAr:!t*-E E wtLtt!als_ cE*?rrrED Srforrr|!{D R!tox?!n I at the original hearing irhen thcy !rer. doinql

2 the --

I l.lR, coN9llY 3 Scoping?

4 14R' BERGNERT ScoPinq session,

f yes. that'! rhy I sa3 curious about 1t. by Bccause ell thc land thcre ir already osncd

'l the county becausa of noisc abatelGnt, cvcn

I though therr are buil'atings thcre. And it sas 1n

9 the paper. f gucas thay arc lcated to county

cnploVGes or 3o!.thing, currGntly' they ate

11 ot,ned, all th. land, all tha houtes and thc

12 likc. so thcre !,ould bc no land tcqui!ition l1 cost, and thcn you r.ould hava a tro-lanc tcrvice to l4 road frol AIbrny-Shaker Road 'Il th' !'ay l5 Northsay Exit 5.

IO l|R. CONnrf! It's solGthing uc'rc

going to havc to look into. tl lhanL You '

19 l,lR. PLAtt I (tndtcating. )

20 l{R. CONDELLr y na.c i 3 Bob al!o CountY 2l Condcl l, Nctghborhood Association'

J) coalltion of Horcoencr! A!sociationr.

I'd jut t Iilc to taY thlt lhcre

Pat. Lt.- E E. \a_t!!t!{^r- c!itrrr rD srlotrrLL\tD Rttortll nen up here on the board are here every Tuesday

z night as 1{elI Mary BrizzcII, l{ho ls herc cvery

3 Tuesday, as uel:. as Kevin 5Di th, as Hetl as this

4 lady here, the stcnographer. AII I'n asking 1s

let's give then a gooa toune of aPPlause,

plcase.

7 (APPlause. )

I MR' PLIT?! (Indicating ' )

9 MR, tlESTCoTl: l.{y nanc i3 8i1l

10 nestcott, I'D the Exccutivc Vice Prcaidcnt o!

I1 the AIbany-Co t onlc Ragi onal chaIbcr of

!z Connerce. l3 ni th a fcu cxceptiona, itc haven't

done a very good job of arking qucs ti ons which t< is ehat chairnan Platt has sugqQstcd ee could do

at the outset hcre' I hevc a que!tion, but

L7 first I'd just Iikc to .ake a corrcnt.

18 t think that thr targct sccnario l9 that we hrve been ta:^king about ccrtainly i!

haart of 20 su!ficlent to rtrlte tcrror lnto the

,r any cnvironncntally eon3c.i.ou3 rcaldent ol thc 2Z Tosn of Colonic, anil it it not, rPP.rcntIy' a

23 rcaListic rcqnario upon uhi,ch to bulld all thcra

P^a:Lr... e E \i tlt t!t^i- C!rrr?rGD s||o;lta^-{D Rltoff lr I cal.culations '

Is thcrc conscnsu3 1.ithin Clough, SeeApp. 14 ResponseIILB.1. ttrat a 3 Harbour at this Point or t{ithin the boar't 'no..9roerth' 4 rc€nario betucen the and thc "target' cvaluat"d? 5 grorth' accnarlo nccds to be

MR. CONSIAYr I think th.t ui Me ' 7 lookcd at during thc 3O-day conrent Perio'l

It's one of those coonents that'3 s cvera I times it's 9 been raised during the night, and I believe

10 soDethlng that uc'L1 have to eva I ua te anA take a tl Iook at '

tilR. gIESTCOtT! OkaY. Thank You.

Thc t,l I certainly cncourage you to do that '

charbcr of conncrcc is in teres taal in grosth ' r,c atand for' but 15 tt's really onc ot thinqs that l5 ee'rc intere3ted in lod.ratc arouth, and uc're to tor interestcd in grouth shich can h'lP Eay l8 infra3tructu-c t hlch It neadcd, not a situation a degree of anxicty l9 uhich crcatcs a conc'rn and 20 'uhich nould Icvy !eGa thrt uould di scourage the to lor thc )1 vcry grorrth shich coutd hclp Pay needcd irprovalents. z3 Thank You.

P^ r'Lts- E E. \,$aLLlx^s C!rrtttzD Sroilrra!',tD RltorrEa (corrine tlillard) 117

I MR, CONtIAY: Thank You.

MR. PLAIT: Is therc anyone

else?

4 S. BILLARD! Cor!1nc Hil. lard

5 My gucstion ls to ltlr. callander. I3 it

6 "Larry"?

7 MR. CALLANDER: Ri9ht.

MS. HILLAnD: The land use raP SeeExhi bi t II-B-1 9 has us listed as open space and brush, and sc

10 have a farn on thc snd o! gloIf Road natervl iet- tt Shake!. lle hava bean thcre tor 65 years. So I

L2 don't know tJhcre youl. nen r{ere rh€n they sere l3 sapping. thcy ueren't doing a vcry good job.

tlR. CILLtNDER : glhercabouts is

tha t location?

MS. HILLARDT Ol

18 thc road.

19 I,iR. CALLANDER! ANd It'S

20 indicatcd as -- tt MS. gILLARDT It's indicated. as -bru3h' "open'and . It'! a !aro' It's bcQn

23 thera for 55 yaa!3. Alro tha cGction on old

P^r'Lrrs a E. ll rL!.t!a.ai- CErrrn rD SraoilraatD Rltoittt ' Ni s kayuna, part of lt i3 Iisted as 'C arn, but

it cxtends to tla t e r v l i'c t - Sh a k c r Road '

J Mn, COtlglAYr Thank you.

4 l'lR. PLA?Tr (Indicating. )

llR, IRIBB;;1 John fribbl..

Currently, f'tr Prcsidcnt oE the Toen o! Colonie

coalition of Hotreoxners l3!ociations. 9fe'rc

at going to rubIit our rctrarks in srltinq next

eeek. Tonigh t, ty cottcDts are pfitari Iy ly

orn,

I, Iikc a lot ol other PcoPle,

'| ', hava be.n troubled by thc tergct sccnario, t'l because it i!n't a targct. A3 you look at the

description o! hor it eas arriv'd at, it uas l< arrlv.d at by clirinattnq shat ucrc considercd t'hy tha t6 to bc apcculativc ptoJcctr' onc sond"rt 11 authors o! thc docurcnt dldn't rclar to it as 'l

thcy Lo rost Likcly tc.nario'' lnd the lact that 'ro!t - caIIcd lt 'target- rathcr thln likcly, it eas !akca nc uondcr. llaybe they 'fidn't think !ost Iikcly, nas it just a 'lilaly" scenario

ins!cad?

?3 t3 I 90 through th. doculent and

Pr,cur*..e E wll.Lr ^s C!rirarrD StrotattasD RllottEn I I look at hos rre are alepending on that target as

't a nea suring stick aqainst uhich !re are going to

neasure the various itrDacts, the question tha t I

4 cotre uP against ls, "Shouldn't re h.ve rtithin SeeApp. 14 Response the recornendrt ion s sore axplicit rI.B.r2. 5 r e c o!l tr e n da t i o ns as to hoe se are going to

'f achieve that ta!9et or that norm?-

I I think there nay be a tendcncy

9 to rrant to get on rith the Droccss to get rholal l0 of irhai re're go j.ng to do l|ith those aitigation

1l fees, and I think that'! prenaturc at this tine.

1A I thinL, lnstead., !re need to pay SeeApp. 14 Response a grea t dcal of attention to the na tcri a I in thc II.8.10. t5 report in Section 3, pagar lg to 24, that focu!

on hot sr control grouth rtthin thc rrGa. therc

are sone spcclfic cuggcstions thcre, th.y rre l8 given .s rugge! tionr rathcr than l9 r e c on n a nd a t i o n s , and thcrc rere soae of thcD

20 that I uould likc to see ur procccd ulth very

)l qulckly in tcrn s of tak i ng th.r as zz tecornendations -- in particuJ.ar, thc rczoning

23 of thc und.vclopcd land into. Largc-lot

P^t-ur-e E. \l r!Lt!a^s- C!iit?rro sraoi?B^xD R!rol?!r I residential kinil of zone and the i|lP].enentation i

z of the historic alistrict ordinance. Those ale things that I think the I 4 toirn should bc lovj'ng on vcry, vcry guiclly rnd

5 that, bctore thc Proccas ;rocccat! too luch !'ould b' congidcred a b further, ee arrive at i'hat

'rost likely- !cenario.

liR. PLAT?t Ye!'

9 MS. CO N R O Y - L AC t v I TA I MY nalc i3

10 Diane conroy-Lacivita, and t al dircctor o! the

shakcr Heritagc socictY.

1) I Just sant to rake a couPlc of tl conicnts, First of all, I rant to say that the plrnncd tl shaker Hcri tage Socicty looks uDon

devcloprcnt as bcing pos i tl vc, lnd se .re r6 uilling to go along rlth thi3 a!", but t sould' t7 like to rale I couple corlcntr on tha GEIS'

18 Flrst o! aIl, cc arc rcknorlcdgcd App. 14 ResponseII.K.2. 19 in thc beglnning tor our input. ll. uct€ nevcr

lnputi tor if zo arked orally or in rriting lor any ee scra arkcd or h.d baan contr.cted, you t oul,d

22 hava found out hotJ dcttir.ntal iha !roI'oscd

23 expanrion of Albrny-SheLcr and glatcrvl i.t-Shakcr

P^a: Lr-- E E - l,TlLLt x^i_ (:!n.rr"rrD Sr| orrrasD Rtltorrlt (Diane Co nr oY - L ac i v i t a ) l2l

1 Roads uould be to our site.

2 Our intcrprctation of the Shakers

is dcpcndent upon a contiguous tite, rnd that

4 bcing thc orchard, the graveyaral , the Ann Lee

l Pond, thc Aastures and the Tripp !arity sitc

b builalings. If thc proposed expansion is to 9o SeeApp. 14 ResponseII.K.l, 7 through Tatervl iet-Shaker Road and llbany-Shaker

I Road, it's in essence golng to cut our site in

9 haI f . l0 RIght noe, our prinary Iisglon is

educationa I, that being that ue havc ovcr 10, 000

people cone to our !ite annually, and sa lt lnterDret hoe the Shrkers once livcd. If !,e are l4 unablc to br j.ng people across the road to shorJ

I5 thcr the orchard, thc Ponal or thc graveyard, in

rstcncc, sc'rc cuttlng our progrerring lD half. l7 The Shatet tlerltaqc Socictt souJ'd

IE hopc thrt othcr options !or the c x pandcd t9 roadr.ys irould be lookcd at.

20 thank you,

,,1 l,lR. Pl,ltt ! Yes , Da'.! . l{Rs. Dtlll{En! y nrre i! Dcborah

23 Darrer. I llvc rt 3l vandenburg Lan.

P^r'!ri- ! E. Wrl,t'tlr^s c!*.rl?rED stroit||^.{D Rlrort!n lDcboiah Da!|n.?\ 17)

i First of aII, f apologizc that

z thit presentation this evening sas the f j.rst

J tire that I have h€ard .bout this rcgort, but I

4 didn't feel that I coutd rcall,y Lcava nithout

J laking at lcrst a coupte df cottcnts' And if

5 thcy arG naivc, I apologize.

First oE rll, uith rcrpcct to ihe

traffic IeveIg, the report indicatcs that the

9 level that you thoot for i3 lcvcl D, rnd I SeeApp. l4 Response l0 bel ievc thc rpcaker said that's gcncrrlly Hhat'g II.H.l7.

1l acccPtabl e to thc totoritt. The charts that you

shoued on the ual I indicateat that D ir thc

I3 cquivalcnt of long traffic d.Iay5. I an only

14 onc rotorj.st, but Lt doesn't sccn to re that r5 that'r at all acceDtablc' to Anoth.! cor!ant elth rerpect to

L1 tranrportation. Iou hrvc talked tDcclCically rtt about the nccd !or aggrarrlvc trrflic Syrtcrs l9 !,lanagcrrnt bccaugc o! the signiflcant tncraasc

20 ln vo!.ure o! trrflic that rlll occu! rr a rcrul t

2L of the i!Drovc.entst tnd I rondcr 3Peciflcally about the i,!ruc of variablc rork hour3.

23 I sork on the statc Oclico

Parr-r." R g. wrLLt!.t^s c!rrrrtto st|oi?rr!\D RlroitEi 1' Butlding caopus . tle have 1f ,000 €rPIoyccs

2 there, To th. best of By knosleatge, virtually

all of those espl.oyres en joy ! oEe lorn of

{ variable rrork houls already. If you cxPect to

5 rety on aggres3ive tSr'ls;'t think you need to SeeApp. 14 ResoonsetI .H.?6. knou shcthcr or not and to rfhat cxten t those

prograns are already 1n existcnce.

e The Iast is an isaue of specif ic

9 concern to ne glv€n shere I I'ive, and that is

10 Hith re!pect to nol8e. And I t ould aPpreciate tt it if at sote Point so[ebody could .xplaln to le

12 hoH it is that ny houre is no!, in'ehrt i8 zoncd SeeApp. 14 ResoonseII.J,9. 13 as inconpatible lanal ut e, and uhat the l4 inplicatj.ons of that arc !o! lry husband and th.

15 other pcople ttho livc on vandcnburg Lanc? tb Thank you. t7 !'lR. PLt?t r Ed ' to MR. SURHITISTERI ln that t tualy

19 ther!, th. !ira d.Part.Gnts are findlng out that

20 (inaudible). Oe had a rceting this rurier and SeeApp. 14 ResponseII.H.2. )'l they sas uondeling rhy thcy srrcn't contactcd' I crllGal clough, llarbour, and th€y 3ai.d that

23 s c|i.body tJould contact thcr ' Alrerdy covc! the

P.a,t:r.rr- e E. wlt.!l!'i...F ('Gi'rrtr!D sr|orrtf^t D Rrroat!r I biggest part oC that airPort area in !ire

a protection.

.' lbout the tunnel undar SeeApp, t4 ResponseI I. H.10. { natervliet-5hak.r Foad, uay back r,hen lJG !hut

5 that o! !, I think you eiii !ind a rcsolution to

o that lact -- it sat Put in by roleonc to

7 through-tunn.l that road. tt that tirc, thc

I enqin.ers Eald rc couldn't bccau3e of thc xater

probIcD, f can !ae that. But sincc thcn, f 'v. l0 b..n to o'Ilarc, and you can drivc out of, ths ; t1 parking lot and you can tce Planct goinE right

L7 over ybur hc4d on bridger. so the runray could t1 be bridged across and you uouJ'd bc running tha

I{ airplrne! uP so you uouldn't havc to go dorn in l5 the eater, and you could rtry rt thc ta.e t5 gradc, so lt i3 a Practical l'ttcr 'nd rhould bc done.

18 elhrt cr.rteal alt thc thc Problcrs

t9 around thc Shakcr Road and OIal nol! Road ar'a it

zo bacausc of pcople coting doun lroa thc nor the northect tGrn part o! our tosn, rhich it groeing part of thc toun. you hrvc to go dorrn

23 thcre to gct on thc Northuay, to go to

Prru--t E !$t!rlxas.. ('ErrrtlED sraokts^r.o Rltor?rti tEdsard Bu?hpr I ter ) 125

1 Tatcrvl i et or iE you'rc Aoi ng to the arsenal to

eorl or you I re going to troy, and 3o[e 9o to

? Cohocs to rork.

{ So it is a good idea to look at

5 tha! tunnel situation at' hatervIict-Shakcr noad

6 becaus e that should ncvcr have be€n cut apart,

and that s!l'I ju3t crcata . Brobler at both the

I intcrsections, OId 0loIf and !la t et v I i e t - 5 h a k e r

9 and Albany-sh.kcr anat old BoI f '

9e rcrlly could crcrte one of thc

II biggcst Problrrs that thc toun cver had' lhanL you. l3 R, PLA?!! Is that it? okaY' l4 ?hank you all lor coring. The board has been

grappling uith thls for allost a year nos' Be

r€re quitc lurDrit.d by thc lrlitia! ccnlu!

L7 ! igure3 that the torrn has only Erosn !olaehere

18 bctse.n 2 l/2, 3 gcrcQnt a ycat as far a! I 19 population 9oc3. It's aIso a lact that

20 bclleve thc auto!obiIe pogulation ir lncrcaring

roughly 3 to t Parcent a ycar, 30 i! you lultlply that ovcr tcn y.ars, you'vc aot 30 or

4O pcrcent trore cars than you had back in r960.

Prcr-rr-z E \l_t!!tx^s C!rrrrraD saottta!{D RltortEr I I havc bcen told that the

z Dop!lation of thc torJn on rny givcn burl.ncrs

.' hour of th€ day approachGs ePDtoxiratcly a

4 guartcr oC a rilllon peoplc. tf thG popul,ation

f, o! thc toun ir 75, OO0, 7i,'000, re h.vc tc

6 provide at lea!t basie rrrviccs of, policc and

paraDcdical Progcction rnd things likc that.

A ?he airport i.s ccttainly a big alrru in our

9 cootunity !ron the outlying lrcas, But I think

10 al,ro another factor is that thc av.ragc nuIbcr lt of peopJ.c llving in a dsclltng in toun is I

belicvc aoing undcr teo pcr drclling, if I an

'| 'l not rlstaken -- 1.7, l.B, !ayb. 2.1, or

t4 3oreth i ng Iikc that, l5 thcrc arc !anY' aanY f,rctors that

l6 givc us this pclceivcd groethi that l! rre'ac

L7 talking in tcrrs o! Just PoDuletion grolrth, it's

18 ju!t not th!r., taking Albany County at r rhole.

tcl !t's grosn !ubttentlal, ly in saratoga countyi

20 but, unCortunatal,y, garatoga County Ir barically

a bcdroon corlunity Ind cvQtybody gcts uD in the

z? norning and hcadt 3outh, goat horc ln the

23 evcnlng at 5r00 and hcad! north.

Pe,r'r.rr-n l! \t t l.Lr !t^N (-!rittt tD slroFttlf,\D Ratottt!i I I thi nk on both sides, there has

b€en soEe undue critici.sn of both deve 1oDc r s and

buildcrs and likeuise the develop.rs and

4 bu 1l dcrs have I earn.d to do thetr horeuork and

5 real.ize that they arc q6t;g to have to share in

5 Bl tiqat i ng fecs at prcscnt and in the future,

7 The balancing act is lt's just

not going to happcn that sorebody is going to

9 pay 911 a squarc toot to put uP an office tn building and ?ven thlnk that he ls going to be

11 conpcti tive tfith an oCtice bui Iding that'3

It alrcady up or is Locatcd in a di lfcrent area of t-l the couniy. the sarc thlng for paying 94500 !or l4 a res idential lot. I rcan that's the uorst care

't6 s cenari o that CIough, Harbour ha! qiven us, but

IO t think it's going to be thc Job o! this board l7 and r,orking uitlr thc county and villagc to bring l8 thcac f igu!cs dorJh to s orcth i ng that cvcryonc

19 can I ivc sith and sttll be corpctitive. I don't

20 think ue arc tooking to dcveloD I no-qrosth

sccnario herc. ?h.t i3 golng to be aD ?2 intcrc! ting challcngc, but --

23 (ADDlaur.. )

P^r'Lti.. E E- lAtLt.tr^s- ('!*?rrrrn srtof,rrr^-\D RlrorrEr. 1i -- but that's r oncth ing this

board i3 gotng to havc to face ' I don't think any 3 cc'ra looking for large-Iot ordinrncct i {' rore. Oc Jutt rrent to 16,000 tect' And to ray go the'acrc lots in thc Tosn f rrc'rc aoing to !o ' 5 of colonie, f lcan that s ju!t bcing ' I oCt'n 7 ridiculous. Bccause rJe're not in Knox

q ref.F tc hill totJns ' ?hat's not a 31an against

9 thc!, but they arc Just ruch norc let3-PoBuIatc'1 l0 than ra are. l1 Te do rant to keep youngcr PCoPIe qo, and hcre, too. llc don't i'ant th.n all to l3 l,lr!, 0elss raferred to th. eging of the hopc that't not l4 gopulation ln the to{n' I lc truc.

15 So, Pctar, Kcvin, eould You Jutt i corrcnt Dcrtod t7 bric!ty outllne hou this sritt'n l8 Hhcrc that f!llr lnto tha sholc rtructurr of the

l9 GEIS end rher€ uc ao frol hrrt? 20 R. CONnAt: Kcvln can atsist colrentr rlll be ?L ra, I belicvc thc rrlttGn 22 di rec ted to Engl necting and Planning DcPartDent,

riII reecivc alI 23 addrcared to tilatY Burka' [|c

P^r:Lt:r-r E \A_rr.Ltva." ('Ei?t?r aD srr(}klxl-rD REtortll 129

I sritten conrcnta uP to Oc tober 19, and .ach and

all connents !rill be addres s ed in thc final

3 gcneri c environFcntal j.nPact s tatelent.

4 As Chairran Platt indlcated., !|e

5 lJj.Il be rrorking closel'y e j.th the Tot,n of

6 colonie. the vi I lage of Colonie and tlbany

7 county to addrcas 6any of the i33ues that eare

rai.sed here tonlqht, 1t is a very conpl.ex

9 projcct. ft'3 a cotrprahcns ive ProJec t tha t se

put tog.ther hare ov.r the pest ycar and a half ,

and ue aDprcciate the colnen ts that sera raised

here tonight.

llR. Ptl?Tr tny other questions?

(Therc eas no re!ponse. )

9lj.th that, the r.cting sill be

ad.journcd.

17 (nhcrcupon, at 9!50 p,t,, the

18 h.arinE sar aaljourncd. ) l9

20

2l zz

23

Pel. r"rr- e E latLl..tvas- ('!i?t?tED \ltof!r|L{D REtol?Ek NaryYo.k StateOftlce ol ?arts, Recieatlonand Hlstorlc Prcservallon TheGovernor Netson A. Rod(elellerEtrEire Slale Plaza AgenryBuilding 1, Albany, 12238-0001

Jaruar':/ 3, 199f lts. l,tary BEke serrior PlanrEr Ictsrn of Colqde f.i::!'-.'i''l: 272 llarotell noad Latltan, N6f york 12:.10 N11$1',$m" Dear l.ts. Rrrke 3 Re: SMRA DEIS for Af-bany cutty firToft, Tqrn of @Idde, Nbany Cornty 90PR2570

Ihe el^rYork State Office of Parks, Recrcation ard Histori.c Eese5ration (OF5flP) has received tle sectidr of the D!'aft Ewircrrertal Iryacf Statssrt (DE:IS) r€gadjrg c.'l tur:al resource.s for the Aljrany Ccr..urtyAtport study arjea.

Based l{)on ttris nerriar, the ardteological ^.iFonent of the DEIS plorrides approprlate guidarEe. disorssim ard Ge corz.ectior is reeded, ltorrsre!', See regardjJq the erplanation of opRHP's arclreological sensitivity nap (F. If- p.II:200. 1.87). The ke$, to that nap is: circles ideDtify zones sensitized by t.}le Neh, York state nrseun file date; sguares iibntify zstes sensitized f!i:m oERHp sit€ fil.es; stipiled zcnes identify overlappirg sensitivity. The notion that cilcles are preldscoric zonas ard squaJres' are Nstoric zones of sensitivity is a taptete nisconceprtion. In lefer€rEe to hjstoric str,lrciures, it is the oPRllPrs qinim tj)at an elaellerlt, job ras present€d in j.dentifyjjg tcsfi! historiq/arddtectual structr€€ srdr as t}|e Natldta]' Regist€r list€d Tcflrt of Ool.crrie l4rltiple See Res.iltEe Area ard the WatervL j,et-Shaler Hjstoric Distrisi. Bd,Ever, there App. 14 are properties rtthjr specific project ar6a has rDt been pEofessidEUy Response surrreyed for historic ard alchitectral siqddficare. !'Ie reccnrerd that aJ,I It. K.3. hxildijgs or strucaFes ncre tian 50 yeats old withln or adjacent to tjlls alea be identified ard foraErd to cur office to be evaLuated for historic ardrlor ardrit€ciu:ial signiflcarrce. l{e have iJ|cluded qrr stJ.1rcturer/ErudjlE| Uwentory Fotlrtr ard lnscnretiqs to assiEt iJ| tlris identificati$. Please no'te that if an)r state agenqp is irr.rolved in thi.s r.rriertal<1r9, it is apprcprlate for that agerq/ to deterilrirE dretlrer stsrltatisr ehanld-take place witlr OPR'IPurder Sectiqr 14.09 of the t{6rr Yort State Parks, Re.reation See App. 14 ard Historic heservatim lan{. In addltidl, if tlEre is any federal aqenq'- - involvernnt, Adrrisdlf ccr:rrll on Historic lt€senratlqt's n{u}atians, Response irhgtecBlcn of Historlc ard C\rltt tiat FctEltiestr 36 CtR 80O reqrire tnat 11.K.4. agenq/ to inltiate corsrltation ulur ttle State Hlstoric Pneservation Off,lcer (SHFO).

Hiato.lc praaadatbo Frhl3..yira 8o'r . !l!.a71.0171 irrbar Csiu.rl prlr . stl-atl.ztt5

&r EqtralOgco.rtrlrt^e.ttrtiva Aclon Aeaocy l4E. !!aqr B|Jr|€ Jaruaqt 3, 1991 lbEe 2

Xf )'ql bave arry Elesticns or need additidEl qu€stirms, please.':11 HJda tlanrefQitec.lc of cr:r Pl.oject Re riar Ilnit at (518) 4744479. SlJEe!:ely

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BE: 50 EIue FoI:Ds BIue Fomlg Instructicns

t,. BF.{:t;rr: Jlll T 19el fiI.C$l [io*f'*lrlL;: t l|litt ti 61 Mil.I Road Lathan, NY l.21L0 october 18, 1990

To!,'n of Colonie Planning Board Engineering 6 planning Services 227 Maxvrel-I Road Loudonvil.Le, lly 12211

Gentlemen:

The follotJing represent rny comments on the Draft Environmenta] fmpact Statenent (DEIS) prepared by Clough Harbour and Associates for the airport irnpact ltudy area. These comnents reLate specifj-ca}ly to Section J on pages tI-reO-:-Zg of the DEIS and concern the j-mpact of aircraft noise on individuals within the study area and beyond.

The DEfS has charts on expected noise levels within the study area. These data were apparently developed during a noise survey taken alnost 9 years ago. There are no fecent neasurements reported that noul-d confirn that the data are valid for todayrs conditions. Considerable developnent has occurred in See App. L4 the area since t98L and the arnbient noise levels have undoubtedlv Response increased since then. There was an attempt at the public neetini TT T A before the Town Planning Board on October 2nd to delnonstrate thai, the L981 data are still valid by conparing data on predicted versus actual number of aircraft flights fron the 1981. study. The presenter focused on jet aircrafi stating that these wei.e lhe only source of concern, In fact, any resiClent of the area can j.rm conf that non-jet flyovers are a rnajor source of noise. "s

Additionally, several of the 1981 study's predictions versus actual result.s for nunber of fLights were exceedingly off. Moreover, it cannot be assuned that aircraft will necessari).y produce the sane sound Ievels today or tttat they are necessarily quieter today without specific study of the type of aircraft in use at th€ airport and their noise characteristics,

Accordingly, the only reliable method to ascertain ambient noise levels in the study area is to conduct a ner,.rnoise survey. Further. without knowing the distribution of f I j.ghts between day and night tine and correlating that with the neasuled noise levels frorn a new study, it is inpossible to reliably pred j.ct inpacts on residents.

There is a statenent in the DEIS that thele will be a sl.ight increase in noise in the impact area in the 1995 period. See App. t4 There is no discussion of the assumptions supporting that statenent. In fact, that conclusion is counter- intu it ive Response considering the addition of new sources of noise in the study II.J.8. area since 19e1, including increased air traffic vrhich is alleged by sone to support the need for airport expansion.

The DEIS Falls to Discuss Inpacts of Noise on Hurnans

It is well established that audibLe noise can cause sleep interference, speech interference as wel-I as contribute to See App. 14 stress v,'hich is related by medical authorities to ill.nesses such Response as hypertension, cardj-ovascular disease, etc. Sleep interference TT T O is probably the rnost severe inpact that can be expected from increased aircraft noise. sleep interference is known to begin at Levels in the neighborhood of 35 dB(a) or lower,

The DEIS inplies lhat an Ldn of, 65 is acceptable in the See App. 14 study area. There is absolutely no basis for this assumption, Response especially in view of the scientific data on sleep interference, TT T, O The DEIS sllould be revised to include a statement of the nunber of incidents of sleep interference that can be expected in the study area an on annual basis.

lihile some rnay scoff at the significance of sleep lntefference, one need onl.y to recollect how one feels after a night of interrupted sleep. Residents of the study area can be App. 14 expected to experience this on a continuing basis' Economically See in! itpu.t" f r-ornsleep interference can be measured in lost Response worker' productivity and ]ost wages attributable to absence frotn II.J.9. work. None of this is discussed in trte DEIS' Also, speech interference is ignored' It will occur uotn inside- - iiro iutsioe residences during aircraft takeoffs and i.",ii"dil spetcn interrerence occurs at levers of 50 dB(A) and higher at no-nna] conversation distances and this level h'ill be exferienced throuqhout the study area during aircraft flyover' The DEIS vrould also be inproved rnarkedl'y by co:nparrng anbient noise levels vrith the International standards organization's recomnendations on noise exposure for humans'

certain statements in the rnitigation neasures section of the DEIS are nisleading. For exatnPle, it is asserted that Albany pol which. prohibits night-tine. engine county has established-a icy , See p.II- 179. rutup!. If there is such a po]'icy, it nost certainly isnrt- For example, during this past week I r"'as al'akened tvJice""ioi"ea. by noise frorn engine ruiups at 2:oo an on one occasion and at 4:oo arn on another. Anyone who lives near the airport can verify engine runups continue notwithstanding the countyrs poficy. it is wrong to suggest that local government rs not iroteltj.nq - its citiiens toiliy when in fact, the policy is ;;;;;;, The credibility of local governnent could be enhanced See App. 14 considcrably if this Policy were enforced' I, therefore. , RespoDse reconmend that tbe DEIS be nodified to recotnmendthat the county T'T T 7 ind Town develop regulations prohibiting engine runups during night-tine hours between I0:0o pm and 7:00.am' I also recornnend a prohibition on night-tirne aircraft operatlons. People need to lleep to function effectively at home See App. 14 uia in work enviionnents. without a ban on aircraft flights, - Response in"f"a:."q jet and other type of aircraft' beth'een the hours of TT I IN 1o:oo pn a;d 7:oo an, peoi,ie in the study area are not given a iair opportunity to i:l"e in a reasonably acceptable environnent' FinaIIy, I would strongly encourage the Town to obtain the services of- an expert who cin provide advice for the conduct survey or tne i'npact arLa as welL as analyze the data "i " "oiie on should be obtained to deternine the expected impacts- See p.tt-186. that without this hunans attributable to-increaiea noise levels' governrnentil officials wiLl not be able to nake infornation, in the study inforxned deeisions t.iuiinq io rurther developrent area. be If clarification of these connents is needed' I can '186-0764. reached at comnenls' Thank you in advance for considering these sincerely, ft"t *.* A. S*-f.- Robert A' SitnPson IHE_IOWIv qf COLONTE @rnsnssqcrATroNs nLannycounrv, lrEwv€nx-

October 11 , L99O Itary Burke and plannins services :19.1"::tl"g'.Lor{n of Colonie 272 I'Iaxwel.L Road Lathan, Ny 12l-to

RE: Connents and Reconmendation for the Airport DGEfS itarget crovth RateI The concept ttarget of rate of growthtr in this report rnust See ii.f il.jlnl:$::,.i3oi= l:=*"e3i-:.iesirable rat6 wiricrr_ieApp. 14 iEi=1i""if, Response :!+:fe"*"m;lj"l:'i:'*"1f, iSli'3?'irlF3;:'il:" II.B.1. The nethodoloqv"described. sorneerernent=-6I_3 .rnost.Iiieiyi+l !h" reporr.refLects that it has of the 3l5i"r.o, but the authors See report unwil}inf. App. "::I.g to-ii. .n". terminotosy. l4 :"il*:l;':::l:ii:: Response iSl";:.*"::!!"iii"iIHi.*:il;ii5i;i.'"II.B.I. rt shoutd O. not"gL:nlt-the suggested mitigations do ::"::!ly. address the quesrion 6i-;;;i, not See .:" pp-III-ll !i:lliiii;t'.:l!:r-;;;.i:'#n:ti;::,i:il,ilt*E'E::"rf,specurarive through Droi ects- whicn-w.iJ Jiiiii.r.t.a j.n the "high grbwtE scenario,, tnoving from III-37 to tt"-;fiis"E growth scenario.,, Hitigation in the No_gEosth scenario $iFriii,l!:5ff:;j*r:"#iilt:*:.1:..oi:;3::3.n= See .= . App, l4 si:;i:ii, -iiiii iiiiiifioeve.Lophenrl!d:: an.""_ygr1.ro :;"jil: ;;!ff ;i:, :5:iu"if Response a_purchase. t. n. :. !'i,.rnor1,vi' source The alternative is-uiiJa! for such III.B.6. one viabre way'io but does point resrrict or controt ;|ff#, Sectj-on IIf suqoests_that one.possible gror.rth is the ;fuorrc rrray of controll.ind See App. 14 ar.ternative'inoilro acqurstion of Dr - receive carerul rhis Responsa "ar3l55llEil;. III . B. 6. Transportation Alternatives ffffiI: l:.lli.El"rrtion question the tnasnitudeof the overly.pifiG;;;: ";:iJ:: ::.Ifl:..;ii:":*!u*:1. fIE TOWN of COLONIE @NEnsnssoctATtoNs ALAANYCOUNTY. NCW VONX-

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for. the prop"=.9^l:I!!::outh. . arterial are partlcularLv See App. t4 aErracrLveor econornicat. inJ-c"iiI€i""-"-.;i;-iii;-il addttionaL options receive r." Response serious constqelation. TT tt tt An option f .:l.l::^ rn-erit is to-noui! scrap II.N.I7, Albany Shaker"" ^ the arteria], yiden sufficiehtly frorn 7 to the access, close Arbany_ -il..^fr;#^AirDort See App. r.l cetn-erary shaki:r-Eeiwlrii'in" ;,;, ina tne betweenand the s.ir piiil ;;ii;T ;: L'idthResponse tr'" s.-ti parr<-ano--€nE-""iriv^i3ir"fniirfSiis"t rr.H.l7. ;!::i:;':r'i;: Il?::5yrii;[.iiiix"i-ijJi..:f-.t: Bar] park. rhe i"a i.[,,ii"j..;.-ti:y"inil:rr:*;:"u cou]d the turned undei__ The coarition sq:olgly supports the that a detaired int,6riruniEifii-uil!"il1".DGErs reconnendation and_vilIage -iirl'"66lir,r,.rronamong county, tonn, See App. 14 be deveropedf 6i Response r'nprovenenrsand_tranifer-"i of hiqhwav iiina=-iilr tr,E-iioii.lili"'ir I I. B,8. d.evelopment_nitigation, costs relaiei rurure develoDment, io the DGEIS. No ir] ttris ar"i-ifi"ufO rake pLace without such firn intirrnunicipar itr!iii]-- ""rn If any traffic inprovetnentsare to be hp-Lemented, strong.agreements successfullv anong nust ufl"-[E-!=iiiii=n"a the tnuniciDalities. fne nJiioi-scoping cErs to the I,oob. of the AirDort acres sulrounainq-ihe airport excludes- considerarion l"oia.i-iiig-ioi.i..rr.nrporration-n""iE problens. "f -:lg -iii-o" EG. Rg::: z i"a nor See.App.14 or. the airporr .l:g{ end at the edqe '. rr.,(el.yexrend :I.u. 4"y-cniigEs rn road !/idths r.rorildResponse b"yolg_:t:. stuay, aiei.." lnportant rhe cost rhat these:inuiiJip.rrt:..s+:.rs to II.B.8. & ;g#-o"" woutd have to p. II-259 &rvironDeut - Ttte creen Be.lt _ and StuDp pond The creen BeIr is_a-vituf pran. -nE-rilr.iiil or,""ufI nitisation A determjnation neeai-'io"r"*Jit*It.-we-i"3irili. brought to fruition - on how it will be wif i gh" cutting of vegetation in these_areasr.!iIl-;;-iiJnrort-"e structures in the_areas; "frrilil"" the buitdinq_ of provide wi r r this land to for a Dernan"nt. prelErvJr--- iiii.ine sunmer the Vilraoe,ot piinniii^ the course of the coionie--Cdia - -iii. ao.rd exenpted one l.iIp"'. . iij",,.sutive d€blarat ::3*:;.r:'ilnll!-i"i;lii =.il1i'"Iiil,f""llil_i:';1":,ri:f";:*i*:i!1,ion See App. 14 ir,i" ---ri-el Response "rEhrough the area Ene green belt pubtic:{. :t$,b .poni. rectrvery bring off II.D.I. ta-na.acquisiiloi-r.y be a necessltv. .d TOWN of COLONTECOALITIqN of HoMEowNERS ASSOCTATTONS

ALIJANY COUN'Y, NEW YORX

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Noise The sections regarding air and noise guality deserve more elaboratibn."f.!l:_::p9rt rrypocnerrcaJ' See App. 14 aj.r and noise quality .Reiying"6n future studie;-ir;"i iise_uy_case basis Response unrealistic. since piol eJtJ-"iiiii.il is Ir-J-r exempted iil. =tuoy area nay be-- & from even.supplenent fnvironmentaf.fmpiEt"'-, pp.I I- 188- statemenrs, it is inporrant that thi; fuIlv . i;;;; 6i.iIJrt ,itn 191.

g:lliq"n. lecormends. that a LeveJ. 2 and,/or Tl:,analysj-s of air LeveL 3 gu:lily r" i"cr"Eid-in-tJ-ai""rutt trre aj.rport cErs. The rinitation inp-"ii See App. 14 not sufficient. -"r"f-l:l:i- operarions is Response i^pr.i.-"niiii iioise II.I.I projecteddevelopment.rI'l3Siii"H.;n?H::"*.1.*"f ----"--:-' ?i"*,e & II.J.1I Mitigation strategle: fo: r,guiet tine.r-i.Ei"r.r,."= to be enforceable-and noise manageDent need See etfecdivi. -ii.-r'ritirriiiii".in the Eo currenrrequration, which do noc-worx, reDort pp.I I- 185, rhe GErs shouid inctu6e prosran i"iiiui-auii f,!=.o on a honitorinq rr- 191. on which nore specific rtcornrnEnalti6n,lliir-i!'il3"a. Economics

The cEfS needs to cosrs include an accurate-a.iii!a assessment-pi"l of the and anticiDared.r"r.nu.= rro^ developnenr. civen trre tnli Jiji.a developnent na€uie-Ji-ii! comrnericiar in the-area tnere wiff ie-a sunst.antiaL See generation of sales. t_ax p. these _reverrrreJ.-iitir-r!r.n,.r"= A reasonable estimate of I I-251 should be included i i.ire -."ilroute and App. 5 property taxation. -tiiE fron neur _ - -However, shoul.d take account the fact.that nevr.r.ien"ts-iiiirrn into have been tne Study Area nay achi€ved_thlough. the ;;;e;;;; of study Area fron elseh'her6 business into th6 in ih;-i;ri'"na7o,. rhe countv. Ttrese neu r.r"rr::.-!:- tn" rhe Tor{n .slujv-aiIl"ui" not nerr, revenires to and/or.county ana-Jrroirrd-iE iltc.o tax revenue estinate. out of the sales op! ihar r€ver See l:li"yils-"?l'oDeullat iTarget of crosrh App, 14 Belou the Rater There tllay be a tendeney-ii Response fo",.,= on the $ associated hltrgation fees _- to w6rry h,ith - square ,ii"iiilr"ii.i" or nor S12 per I-I,..8.13t foot is a reasonabie "u"u[ worrres premature. "oJi. are The first questioned-to be addreEsecl qo He lrant is r.rhat level of grouth pases to achieve anA wniEfr-oi-ini- sussested rrr-16 to-irr -zr"wiit-# ;;pi;;.1;$:res on 4EI9ltN:I-sqLoNte coALrTtoN of HOU_EOIrNEns AssocrATrONS ALBANV COUNTY.NTW YONX

Airport cEfS page 4

A lower rate of rrilI nean that the be spread over r6wer-growth inpact -;--fees will."--- reassessnent Frojlit-J-iiel"iisr,er ie;;i; rdould.be- doie at-c;;i; tfris -iige to deiernJne vhich of the suggested nitigiiionJ il'eLihinared. The Coalition nake: the fol,Iowing recotnnenalations: r.. Esrabtish a.pubtic rt;d ;;il-GiliEi-ii:Jiru, r", the protection of historic'sites and- th5 estabLishment of the pernanent 2. greenbelt. gtralgg exisrj.ng zonini-wiiiiin-residentiti. the Historic------District to Laige tot rnptenenr trre nistoiic-ni;a;i;t-o;dinance. 4.?. zone alL the Undevetoped zoned 1;;d;--fi-;;cordance---- r,rith the Lt ttAc 1and u'se rEiornrnendationJ. s. consider arterniirveJ-i"-ii; tnirdifi-;i north_south arterial. a 6. Establish.an inteimunicipal agreernenr-r,iii"iv= for the coordinat_ion plannins anh iuiidin!-'."i-- _ inprovements in the irea. t. consider_ seriously all options for preserving green space in the area.

Sincerely yours,

John A. Tribble President Cenlerfor EconomicGrowth. Inc' lGnn€lh C \rtrogn€r Drgclol

Tcstimony on the Draft GEIS for the Airpon Arca Octoberl, 1990

Ladiesand Cen0enren, nt)'nanre is JanresConroy and I anremPloyed witlr the Centerlor EconomicGrowth as u Communitl DevelopmentConsulunt. In thatcapaciry,.l.have been *'orking with a numberof major lind ou'nCrs'who havepropenies located within lhc Airport GEIS study arat.

Upon rcview of the draft GEIS $'e havea few majorcomnrcnts: 9570of roadwayimprovements The asscssmentof ntitigation fees,baspd on thc fact that See App. 14 in the airpon arcashould be atu'rbutedto new.Stowth neededto accommodati-srowth Response alone,is absurd.This cal-culationdoes nol includesufficient allowance for existing infrastruCrureprOblems and deficiencies.There is evidencethat manyOf the transponiltion inrprovementsrcconrnrended in the drafr are neededtoday to hlndle existinguaffic. .lrt faci, vinually everynrajor inrersccrionin rhe studyarea currently operates at a "failed" level of serviceduring peak periods.

The CDTC hassnted that much of the raffic in tirisarca is "background"traffrc or through raffic. Othertraffic dcmandis generatedby rheincreased passenger load of rheAlbany CountyAirpon. Still orhcr trafic is causedby socialcharge which hasrcsultcd in more cars pir faririly and more drivers per household. Nonc of thesc influenceswere adequately addrisscdin tirednft plan. At thi outsetof thc studythe consultantrccogniled that "develoDincfeasible inrprovenrents at ccnain locationscould nol be accomPlishedto orovide'anicceonble level of serviceD".

R ne* nonh-southanerial, Exit 3 off the northway,Route 7 explnsionand improvenrents to Albany-shakerand Albany- Watervliet Roadsand many otheru-affic improvements recomm;ndedin rhe study arerequircd roday! It is norjusdfiable to allocate957o of $ese town do costsro new developmeni.The piobiem will only get wone -if thecounty and norhingto solvethele long standingnafhc problems;even if no newbuildings are ever consrrictedin the area. G'iventhe EoSrof rhesemitigarion fees. thc s6gnantecononty and rheamount of developmentproposed undcr rhemodCrate growth sccrario,it is unlikely thlrt thesenew improvenrdntswiit cver be made throughthc imPlementationof such an unbalanccdahd unfair mitigation pcrcenu'c. Theresimply isn'rth_c demand o_r absorption rarc for thc levelof develop-menti,eccssary to pay the aseonomicalfees included in the study. Theomission of recentdiscussions about the ownenhip and devclopment of theairpon is anothu majordeficiency in thedrafr GEIS. Thefailure of thesludy to adequalely_evaluate See App. 14 optionsincluding the potc ial enlargement Response $e imoactdf a numberdf differcnrdevelopment ' of oartincfacilities, reali^nment of roadwaysand-cxpansion of the terminal is a serious I I. B.14.,: . nail in rhi enrircprojecr ihich maymake iS findingsmoo! once a finalairpon consulction ptanis implcmenied.'Specifically, whcn rhese proposals include a dramaticincrcascs in the sizeof propenyused for airponpurposes. {g,'.,{,yl- ,&)' \-..

Keycorp Plozo, Suile 600 Albony. NY '12207 518tA65-A975 FA) An Afiiliote ot Albonv-Cotonie Regionol Chomber ot Commerce Ceder for EconomicGrorr'lh, Inc

Thesenlement upon three basic developmcnt sccnarios is to simplisticfor sucha complex i"J i-,jr"J*"i [ii"nal hub. Lirrleworic is evidencedas to thcrcalistic absorption rate of See App. 14 eirherdf thedevilopment scenfiios. The no'growth oprion, the high-growth oPtion and Response fie rareer-crowrhoition do not providesufficicnt discussion on $e potennalmtx oJthese TT? E I i.in-i?-i 5r 6n tn" possibiliryrliar ccnain uras maybe suiredfor highgrowth while others :U.enot. Thisstudy does nor adequateely address the varied development altematlvcs wnlcn arepossible. In closinsI wanrto saythat 0rc propeny owncrs with whomI collaboratedin thiseffon all ;;fi fi;;";..p, oitrti cels'ptogah Theywant the airpon to.be improved into a first See App. 14 clisi recionalfaciiiry and re;rlize rhe improvenrent of thearrpon wlll rcqutttconslocraDle Response improvlmcntto theexisdng road system Thescpropeny owners arc not oPpose{l to II.B.14. oifi.io-"*o in r fiirdtocaiion of r'heimprovemeirt iosti -but- theplan to allocatethosc iosrsiircludid in rhedraft GEIS is unaccepublc. Please acccpt this comment as a prelin:iniu_-vone. We rcscrvethe risht ro sibnritadditional *ritten nraterialin thebalancc ol thcconrrnent oeriod. VILLAGE OF COI,ONIE ALBANY COUNTY NEW YORI( 6'N:FAL OFFICES GE HALL uNolF aoao ANY N Y, I A2O! 5ta.669.7442

0ctober 18, i9-o0

LawrenceUoods, AICP Clough, Harbour& Associates 3 l.linners Circle Albany, NewYork 12205

Re: AirDort Area DGEIS Vil laqe 1.,Town of Colonie

DearMr. l,loods: to supplementthose in This letter contains an additional comnenton the 0GEI5 my letter of September?0' 1990' -ViIla-ge-'s pocKetpark jusi north of-the SunsetBoulevard ihe DGEISsu-ogests a Villaqehas no interest rleiqhborhood(see Exh'ibit fi-l-f uio pageII-205)' The See tle io not expeci.'residencesanv addiiional residential App. 14 i;':"il[;p;;i-ai lni.; roiaiion. are .in u""t=iiit't".i .iilii"e in the V'illage Response orowth the service maintenanceof sucha iLl"Ji jli"oiii,.i;-' t'G irlo i".r that-'il; accesi to'^and Ir.L,l. p"ooi".ti'?ot v;il;g"' 0n the other handwe would facility might raise buffer betweenthe welcomeany use of Wetr"no'i-iOu! p".tun"nt6pen space and virii"" ini conrnercial or highwaydevelopments' sincerelyYours ' ffi

Peter Platt, ChalrmanPlanning Board ' lt,I :.', r:Ju Robert''---'iri Hitchell, P.E. 0irector ioi""ie Engineering& Planning.services LaberdeEngineering & ConsultlngGroup LEo' CooPER.ERvtNc, SAVAGE NOLAN& HEI..LER l^res FEvxo|E Cao.lr t^Mr:s c if,.ll\\a\ ATTORNgYS& COUNSELIT'RSAT LA\I rar l|t \t'l\Rx I llni.Frt *Lu^|,| va\ RL\ssDLrlr ljlvNo l()\aAXt)c \olJ\\ 39 NORTHPEARL STREET lt! lxr) r\ EL\IR g JErx^r\ s^v^GE Ltc|l^lDll ALBAN'I" NE\T'YORK J::O; liRtsll\^ ^ lruR\5 lr!a lt!: rtlllrc li slonr (5lti)434-tl3l - (518)449-3lUr Ttto\t^s ^ c^LlAolus {518)432-31(xl Frcsitnilc MALx [ \r ATI(Dis TEL{A\CE P cltRISIENSO\ TIIOM S g IETERSOI \tlclr El. A lioR\Sm\.. Succt D^VID ^ DITIEIIL\T suJ^r CARROLLPICOTI! 515Mrdison Avcnuc 120Muhd '\A'AK};TlA\ DEl.t\'E titltRtoi x.ALll'M^\' TOIIERTG Atrr3tcrd|'n.N ) )2010 v^ ?8th Floot IILNRI C COUII{S cta^lc tl JioRVA\ (518) tic* York.N.Y. 100f,1 t4?'0:?o PAUL A I.EV1\E" DA\1DIt \AILDER (212)614-t?58 ,EFI.-nII L T!OERrcII' M^lll-YsJ RAMos' l(r^,\\l: L ll(A(ioill:\l 19, 1990 DOITALD . C^sPAEu- october '.r- @ad t ttdvr@ , .thtn.:rJ ' crn..ue: i,,,; lii!',J/lF\Qjiill Ms. Mary Burke " Tovrn of Colonie l2 272 Maxwell Road ocT i99[ Latham, New York 12110 HARBOIJR.1 ASSOCIATES Dear Ms. Burke: ?LOLgH

our flrm represents a number of cl'lents who hawe developable property $ithin the atea enconpassed by AlrPort Area Dtaft -tbe publlc hearing blnirrc- environmental lrnpact Study. t spoke at the n"fa atta, as a supplenei:t ttrereto, I wish to make the following cornments and observations: See App. 14 1. The study fail's to take into account tax Response and county in revenues generated-of for the state II.U.I. the forn payloll and sales taxes ftom the new developmen{. An auto mega dealetship could generate 4b tnlllion dollars ln sales, with 2'8 iriffion dotl.ars j.n sales tax. A few such projects would be more than sufficient to cower lhe-totat cost of all the lmprovements in this area without the necessLtY of the proposed nltigation fees.

The study fai.Is to digtinguish betneen office and retail develoPments. offlce devetoPments probably generate far nore peak hour traffic SeeApp. 14 lhan retail. Pellraps there should be some ResponseI I .0.2 dlfferentiation l.n the anount of nitigation fees it0posed ln these different categories.

Previoua proposaLs have lnvolved nitlgation fees based on trip generatlon. This creates SeeApp. 14 an lncentive for a developer to buLld I Project ResponseIL0,2 generatlng fewer trlps. The study proposes a iethod which would not do this. I think this sbould be considered. 4. The nltlgation feea propoeed rrould have a serlous lmpact on develoPment Prosgects, addlng betyreen 15 and 2O* of the cost of a bullatl.ng. SeeApFi l4 Glven the obvious recessionary environment, can Responselt I.3. our area afforal to have th1s type of resttiction? The econonic section of the repott deala strlctly with the econornLc effect on the nunLclpallties Lnvolved, without considerlng the €conornlc effect on the businesses, and, consequently, the poPulEce.

5. The study should also state $hether full credlt See App. 14 w111 be given for aIl on-slte develoPnents Response rr.0.5. advanclDg the lntent of the GEIS.

6. Ho$ w111 th€ Town colLect nitigatlon fees on behalf of the State and county? It does not appear tbat ensbll.ng leglslation is in effect' Therefore, If the Town adopts the study's proposals. a further noratorium rnay, l.n effect, be declared unt11 the State and County pass enabling legislation, which itself 1s doubtful.

7. Slnce the ro6ds 1n ttre area are alleady over capaclty in nany cases, an equallzation formula See App. L4 tnust be dev1sed to Lmpose some of the cost of Response II.H.1 new roads allewlat1ng an exlstlng troubfesome and Table Ll,-tt-2. situatlon upon those who created it, i.e., the current resldences and businesses.

8. Both the State and the Federal. Governnent have reeently imposed new air quality standards upon the manufacturers of This should )ee App' automobites. II I ? significantly a).l.eviate the aj.= quality Hesponse problems found at sltes Ln the area.

Finelly, one of our cl.ients has asked us to express his incredullty thet an area such as ours, with a Long hlstory of econonic probtems, would conslder lnstltutional1 zing lnPediments to devel.opment of this nagnitude, wheroas nany areas, such as the sunbelt, provLde incentlves. Nelther of us j-s sure that thj.s proposal is consistent with the needs of our State, ot area, or with public policy (at feast the explessed public policY).

Very truly yours,

cooPER, F,RVING, SAVAGE, NOLAN & ,FELLER

Craio H. Nornan CHN:sc cc: Cloughllalbor Associat e s 'ttoia rLfft

cltaFLES ? IALE, |lte. 'OTO TIOY TOAD acflEXEctlttt, r|.Y. t23oe IE6EIYED EflSP #.

october 72, 1990

Mary Burke Engineering & planning Services Dept. 272 Maxwefl Road Lathanr New york 12110

Re: Al.bany Area GEIS - Mitigatlon Fees

Dear Mary :

On- behalf of Charl.es T. Male, Inc., f attended informati-on meeting the at rown Halr on oci.'zno. without-crirsl-i derailed srudy more than r have had time io' ,e"i.ru rr.,e .9d:"ss rhe specifics and rnagnirude of varrous::i?:: cosrs or-,tf,. infrastructure- items. ltoweier, one impor!ani was shown very fr"t clearLy. The most e"pen"ive- an?--;.;;i; component is transportatLon._

appears from l:.::.t,iillv rhe sratistj.cs of traffic counls on maror highh'ays thaL a signifj.cant percentaje of t.raffic is pass-through t.raf f !c. Very high tounts a're entering the study areas from borh SchenictaO"y u"a-S".uiogu alnost counties and equat numbers are teairing ine- Reversirtg opposite sides. of t.his occurs at the end tlri-,f"y. "i In ny opj.nion it is not fair or eguitable to levy mitigation fees to pay costs of l-mprovement ior pass-through the high percentage of traffic. One ner,rspaper articie future says that the mitigation fee for homi3 i" tirl-"iroy range. area, could betrdeen S6,000 and $7,_5OOper housin! unrc. article gives Anorher the nurnber at Sq, SOO per unj.i.- I respectfully See App. 14 request rhaL rhe ohilosophy of miri-gation fees be cbnstderei to Look jncremental Response II . H. I . only at the costs of lnfrastructure r.mprovements reguired by the.Lncreased deveLopment. withi.n study area. Even the rhen ier-tai.n areas wtii probuory be charged a dl sproport ionale share of t'he cost. CHARLES'. TALE II{C, + IEdEIVED ItriI15 D$ october 12, t 990 Mary Burke rffi.i.n Page -2-

In any evenE the fees should not reach a magnitude wherein the future ohrners of these homes are penallzed unfairly and, in the best lnterest of the town, not stop oiaerly development of the Tor{n. itar F1r r *t!1!, !,^-,-- v-J !^v4t ivg-e,

Charfes T. Male, Inc.

KM:dsl COHHESPOi'JDENCE Loberge 8o"^lU,f;fillnt8*uttto ffi Septenber11, 1990 REcEIiV[n sEPi41990

AICP LawrenceCal l ander, CL()UGHHARB(}UA & ASSOCIiTTS Clough, Harbour a Associates 3 lti nners C'ircl e Albany, NewYork 12205 Re:$lli:il l'illTl'r.',",., *

Dear l,lr, Cal I ander: points DGEIS'we found the following During our rev'iewof the Alrport Area ,rrtiirr"yo,night nant to clarif-v or correct: Village PlanningConrni s- See' is no long Chairrnano-1 m3mbe1 o-f,the 1. RobertGraf J' Dennis'-Jr' References' sion: the nevrActing dfti*i^ ll thristopner as being in EahlbiE and *2 on t{ap-III--B-1-shouldbe shown See Z. Pro.iect#3 on MapI.I'B-4 il on r'lapIl-B-4 (moterrl-B-4, the Town,not urevril-i'sit":!!t, yliii-pioiec: expansion)not shoYJnon aD III-6-l ! (Tables See Apg ' 14 for 184 apaftnents' not 192 3- ShakerRun Apartnenls is now proposed Resitonse l1-3-2. 11's-3and III-B-i). II.D.J' Tounllatercourse on Area' along 4. l,laoII-D-S: you showan "Existing .Protectiis protectedby Seep. I I- 66 ... in the Yillaie;-iirJ portion in-th€ vi'llaoe strlkercreek sni[et Runi vou nay xant to App. 14 aqresnentbetreen the vtt'ri'g"1"'nr's-oei'*a discusslon' Respons'e lir".ii tt" rap andre'lated II.F.2. marqaretSchwarzisvillagePlanningcoordinator,notvillaEeclerk;theSee vitiage clert is CarolA. Hendrick' References. pp.II-6. villa-oe(p' II'6' bottdn)' See l,teare not awareof anyagricultural usein the zoning land uses- of incunpatlble 7 The ootentlal for-.ni- confllc+"ing "it' !9q1use. wh'rchacts as a See pP' II-7, ;l;;"J;'t;ii;s. io*n '"l'lta uv,u:t1111'.A'10 u-8. 'vlfftst;. lfiq:ti:iiii:iii: ::;,i::li'ai.!!ll..1.::i- be?nbrou-oht to tne ?t'ft::,irl:';',Fn'{l*:izoning ii"i-it" this-tas ed bv residential pionii madeto correct this (!4aD attention of Lt[,lACanO an"'t nil-rtat se Ir-B-2).

4 C0\,RJ|R oRvgA3A tY.MW vonK12205 51U4$-7112 September11, !990 LawrenceCal lander, AICP PageTwo

6. Uhyshould Village stom water nanagenent'Probablyplans confofinto Townoractices? See p. II-64 lri Vil'lage praciices inadequate? a moot point since virtually and App. 14 all the Vitiage's portion of the Shaker Creek rratershedis develoPed Response exceot Shakerdun which r.€nt through an intensive i{YS0ECreview. II.?.2

Sor,teof the "other costs' ln Table II-0-4 are annual costs and should not See App. 14 be addedinto the total wlthout capitalizing tha. ResDoose Ir.0. t2: See 10. t{itigation fees are uniforn for all types of dwelling.unlts; ls this based App. 14 Resoonse on riserrch or vrasthis adoptedfor the sake of simplicltv? r1 .0,8. 11. It seemsthrt Dart of the increased denandfor golf will cone fronr people See App. 14 whowork in the study area' not .iust residentsi the go'lf coursemi!igation Response fee - if it is retained - shouldreflect thls. II.0.l3

It appearsthat the water mitioation fee Hlll result in the subsldization See App. rates 14 of exist'lng custonersof the LathamIater Distnict. Presentwater Response are designidto cover operating costs as well as-the amortizationof the rr.0.l4 existing- systeai as proposedlnew custsners rould pay both for the- new systernihr6ugn riritigalton fe6s as well as contribute to the eost of the existing systemthrough regular v.ater rates' l? lThe is a fun.ction continuedgrorth of the Caplta] District economy ' -of-how See App. 14 Hell each rn"rnlilpality encourageseconootic devel oFtent..-. (p. III-ZB)' probably prinarily a reactive or Respouse should bi re-writteni nuntclpallties have II.8.7 :. negatlve rcle. If you haveany questions or comnents,ve hopeyou rill call. verv trul v vours. LABERGEEiIGII{EERING & COIISULTIIIG 6ROUP LTD.

by

RJH:bb c: Hon.Herbert 8. Kuhn,l{ayor I r-n["--.rrr /-\,2-,. L\-lL-if.jl v._; =l I .?ll\E:l(llt\r !:: -!4\)lJLill'.lL- L-,. -Ur - - n :..8 0ctober3, 1990 .,t.-&- /-* ' a"!sa*l Honorablellerbert B. Kuhn, Mayor U a) Village of Colonie Coloni e VilIage Plaza TwoThunder Road F{,-l/' Albany,Nev York 12205 1.,''i't'

Reviewof Airport Area0GEIS Reoorton PubIlc Heariao Dear MayorKuhn:

Attached ls a copy of my note to the flles reporting on the public hearing of 10/2/99. I ras assured by lhairaran Platt of the Torn Planning Eoard that your cflnents rould be carefully considered. The colnDentsat the hearing raised somebasic jssues about the whole report which rill require nore tlne to resolve than the thirty (30) days SEQRAal'lows, unless an extensionls given. You mayurge llr. Plalt to grant such an ertenslon if you happento see hio or talk to hin. lle havejdentifled an additlonal point that couid affect the Yillage and on whlch you olght rant to coonent before october 19, the offlcial .coment dead- I iner

The DGEISsuggests a poctet park off Sunset Boulevar{ nelghborhood. Other See resldentlal gro$th in the potential servlce area appearshanperad by the App. 14 eristence of the rctland, the proposedarterlal madr rnd proposedcfiuer- Response clal zonlng (se€ attached nap) as rcll as alrport nolsc. Becauseof the II.L.I. retland, it nay not be posslble to flnd a suitablc slte at all. lje rlso ronder yhethcr the Vlllage has rny lnterest in such a park, hol access rould be Drovided. and rho muld r!.lntain it. As part of our revl er of the Airport Area oGEIS. ye checkedon th. status of the smll plece of the Torn on SandCreel Road, iest of the ilortlrrqy (narked in blue on the map). This land ls nor zonedto prlrit comercial us€s. Thls ls a See pp.II-7, confllct with rh! Yillage xhlch ve pointed out at the Lrnd us€ l'lanrgenent II-8. Advisory (LUilAC)neetlngs. At the o€etingr r! tr?r€ prooised LUIiACmuld recoonendrasldentlal zoolng for this land. Apparcntly this fell through the cracks and no r.co rendat{on for zoning changeis contaplated.

, |Aalartt ttctt r\.:n/c Al o,iAv ^16r, \rr^rt 4,r,hc .?.9.*j' 0ctober3, 1990 4I';*'',_b HonorableHerbert I' Kuhn,l'layor PageTrro W&:,

If you wouldlike to pursuethis matter,we have.beenadvised you may t{ant to wriie to SupervisorField (sqpyto Hs. llary Burke.Engineerlng nnd Pl.anning Servlcesoeiartnent), askinghim to initirte the re'zoningto a residential ione ionrpatiUtewitti itre adi'oinlngdevelopnbirt in the Vlllage. l{e are of course, as always,ready to dlscussthis letter and its attachments with you at your convenience. Very truly yours, LABERGEENGIilEERIIIG &

RJIJ: wc c: Carol Hendricks,Vil'lage Clerk STATE OF NEW YORK OEPARTMENT oF TRANSPoRTA a4 HoLLANo AvENu€ /:.:eLI€t ALBANY' t't'v tezoaTz": JohN E. T^ylo. pE er-, I R€c|orr/r!orFEcroi E. wH|r€ october 1e, teeo i-t br'LUU 'l i'%-< i 't"''t"f 'n' '2. ;|,Lh: ''W Mr. Peter Platt, chairgan -o'r$t Town of colonie planning- Board \'. 272 Uaxnell Road \C,'iti; Lathar, NY 12210 1-l-!- . RE: ITRPOR! DGEIS Dear Ur. platt:

We have reviewed the Draft ceneric Environaental IDpact Staterent (DGEIS) f6r. the Airport, Area of Cotonie, New tor-k -ofprepareat by clough, Harbour & Associates. tfe coorend the town Cofoniel Al,bany County, and the vlllage of colonie for consid.€rt ng tfre ne-a! of one o! th€ f,astest gror{ng sections of th€ cipi!-f- of=trici, through a coordinated approach- that identlfLes the ienrices needed to sustain that growth. trte agree uith the overall preuise of the study that, even uith noderate grosth, the area uill experience severe inpacts to the transportation syiten which lust be aidressed rn_ a loglcal an(l phased Danner; however, ue also believe that the Eorrosrng coDnents should be addressed,

The -study correctly recognizes a llst of existing deficiencies and needs. previously iatentlfied by the Capital Oistrict Transportatlon See App. 14 connlttee i these should be addressed Lefore other ilprove-nents can Respooge be considered. Houeverr^ no- general consensus has bien reacnea ly the puniclpalities involved that these recounended iuprove.trriS II.E.5. should be constructed, or hou they are to b€ paid for. since ltresi rrE roveEents a_ra _precursors to future iDprovelents, a r.couDendation for how they could be funded sh6uld bav€ b€en Lncluded in the discussion.

It appears that th€ target Crorrth scenario forocast by th€ mEfS T"y P".on th€.hiEh sid6, and that this Day affect tne stale, or at reaaE Ene tt[1n9, prelhlnary ol needed tDprovelents. 1990 Consus See App. 14 tabulat,ions indicate that the grorth of population foi the Town of Responge colonLc is lorer than that assriued Uy tfri 3tuay. fn aaaftton, ttre grouth of Jobs in th€ target area is tw!,ce thaC proj ected by cDR"pc. II.A. I & II.B.I It lay be tbat the cDRpc forecasts are too conseivative ior this attractive er€a, but a loger grorth scenarlo couLd have been €xallned and alternatlre transportatlon luprovenent proposal6 d€veloped for that level of Erovdn.

AN EOUAL OPPOAIUNITY/AFFIRMATIVE ACf ION EMPLOYEN l{r. Peter Platt october 19, 1990 Page 2

We stronEly endorse the lnpletrentation of fSU strategies as an alternative to sone capital aonstructi,on, but ue letievitnat a zst See Apg. L4 reduccron p€ak rn hour -deDand llay be an overly optinistic esti[ate Response of what can b€ achieved by TsM sirategies. ftre ituay acknowledqes II.E.6. that the private autonobile currentlf is by far th;'p;i;t-;;;;; of transporlation in thE study area, ind thl capital bi=triit, ina yet the effectivenesr of the Study's rdconnended caiftii construction plan counts on .an aggresstiE TStt progral to acii."" a reduct,ion of 2St in (additlona!- piaX trour trlCfic dclrnal. lh; tsM. strategies are defined in onl| Lhe uost general tems, and "-no estiuate of rh€ costs for iuplereiring the! fras betn dat;io;;e. lo date, CD([Chas achi€ved only lodest success in its elforts proDote to rj,desharing. . Reports froD other areas of the country suggest that ridesharing Ls rtost likely to succeed when }arq'e enplolment centers are targeted. Increasld cransl! Eenrice to-iie See App. 14 :!ugJ are? is unlikel.y unless a. eray can be found to support genrice Response co Ehe TT TI A [a1or suburban eonoun_ities of euployees. eus !6ols and van p99l:__1fi r-elativE_ly unrrieal in thii irea, uut iney-agencv ana in aggressrv-e stagEered work hour prograD uould require an to Eaxe tn€ leaat to coordj.nate cheir overall eflectiveness; tiey ilso are unllkely to be effective t'irh sEaII eDployers. ourdr iii strategies need to be better 'we alefined and endoise-d Uy the afflciad nunicipalities. suggest that vithout a lore convinclnq assessnent of the chances of success for potential TSM ueasures] the capital luprovenent alternatl,v€s ldentl-fi€d by th€ DGEIS strouii also b€ evaluated agalnst reall,stic succesg rates for TSM strategles. l{e have technical conc€rns about the desiEm and spacl,ng-apparent of, the recoueended n€e lnterchanges on r-8?. tt, i-s not reidllv that the interchanges uould satiEfy aII applicatr" g""ieiii;-;J rnEercnanE€ spacing Etandardst sore furlhcr exanLna€lon o! thcse See App, 14 DaErers t3 uarranted. Furth€r, our recent experienee slth other Respouse Proposals suggasts that the FHTA rlay have conc-€rn! ahout crgatLnq II.E.7 E :€Y*1lr::Tgh_anges provlding only parrlal acc63a aa shoun ln opttoi II.E.8. z-(Exhtbit II-H-{), and that the86 concens vould also need Lo be acclresE€d. ws uould aleo lik€ to poj,nt out that sc have no plans to ttiden the l-gz naJ.nline, and so i widen!.ng should not be asiuula for the purposes of thc sd,udy

Both ot tion. 1. ard option 2 Lncl.ude provldlng three throuEh lanee on RouG€ 7 b€tueen th€ Norltlrway and th€ schenectady couniy line. we aT? cu-rrent-Iy in the final d:esign phas€ of a prolect ttrit wlii Provrc€ ttv€ Ianes (two through lanes ln 6ach dlrection and a conElnuoua left-turn D€dian) on Route Z b.tu€€n ttade lload and St. Dlvig:s F.le. This project, to ue let Ln February of :,egr, li thi resuE or thorough consideration of n€€ds and posslbillt,i€s ln thie Ur. Peter platt October 19, I99O Page 3

corrldor. Itrs irportant to acknowledge the slgnif,icant'"i -Route difficulties that $ould- b€ faced. by a;t iutule nfaenine 7 that which nif.! prov_iOda _beyond !e lV tfr" current p"oje"i;-'---- See App. wi.dening of this dorridor uo'uta-iequire 14 ,rr19di!i9l.I trri aisiocatton Response . T.ally. exlstlng resldences and businesies, and could b; prohibitively costly in riEht-of-way takings. It,tl..t. Extensive additional . alevelopuent in the study area could-;; s 19ni f icantly al ler existing. siriraJe qiiinige ctrara6teri-sll""; lusr be.aaeguitely proviOea i6r. In this rd;;A,-;; See navell::"_.1:"e"s a concern about the box culvert convcying shaker cre5X under pp. II-79,80 ,83 Route 7. rf furure devetopnene Juiiicilntiv condltions, -and d;;l;;;.i;;;; a Dajor redesign reconstru"i,ron or the curvert to acconnodate new drainage patterns and ,iior--rtor;-;;y- necessary, ;; Itte support the conceEt, ad,vanced in Section H, that a singl€ agency coordinate j,upl6nent the transportiiion' .rp"oreEent reconDended_and Dlan b-y the DGEIS. Howev6r, we nefiivj tfr"i- fnE"Stua" See App, 14 5.rerrrcr nave deveroE eat a. hpleuentation plan Response accounodare -phased designed ti ttre gr5wur idlntitied.' i;;;-;- pran eould provide a rr..E,9. f6r us and ror reviJ-- uy tne Duniclpalit.ies.-rogicar -guide other invorved

rre.strongly lil:lly support the recoEDendation of the DGEfS for th€ consideration of a Transportation Developnent ,iii. study oistri"i inool .- reconrends a nurbei of uajor fnprovelents shi.ch wiJ,I be. necessary not onry to attraci ana""pitii iiew rusirr"rse. but also anar resldents, to benefit existing residentiil Jnc toroer"i"l uses uithin the study area. Slnce funding sufficienf io totally See App. 14 reconnended iupreueni ttrt inprovenents wi1], very lj,kely not be Lvaifaufe trou Response Federar or state source€, a rransp6rriEit-ri olveropuent II.E.IO. herp. pay bi;*ici-;; .for th€se .inproveuen€s Dust be gl";;-';"ry--;;;i;: consid€ration. At this. liue, special stat; eiabling i's. required r6eisiirio. to estabrrsh a rooi'ce iie iviir.alr€ to di.scuss this Datter ulth you in Dore detall. Thrnk you for the opportunlty to corDent on the Airport Aroa DGEIS. rf you have any qulitions-ne c-olgerninj trr"". .o"""nt", prease Joanna call Brunso 5r ae 474-62Ls. wj look forsara to sorking sith you in th€ future on this hportant ;ii;r:- D.&-- RICHARD I{. CARI.SON, P.E. planninq Dlrector, - & Itrograr llanagelent R€gj,on 1

RBC/J!.B,/dah Mr. Peter Platt October 19, 1990 Page 4

cc: John laylor, RegLonal Director, Region 1 John Poorean, CDAC staff Director Frederick c. Fi€Id, Jr., Tor'n Supervisor, Toun of Colonie Janes J. Cotme, County Executive, Albany County Herbert Kuhn, vlllage l{ayor, VilIagE of Colonie CorporateOffices: TII PINNACLEPLACE . SUITE2OO MoKOWNROAD Off WESTERNAVENUE T-G ALBANY NEW YORK12203.3409 |lDr[EH€rncofuTRrnon conP 518-489-3276,TELEFAX 518.489-3553 A WOLANINCOMPANY

October 3, 1990

Mary Burke Town Of Colonie Planning & Engineering Dept. Max\relI Road Lathan, New York 12110

RE: DGEIS AirPort Area Mary:

It is our opinion that the propoeal uade ln the DGEIS for the airport area could result in the Tosn of colonie tieing itself into an rEcononic Stranglehold. n The issues as preseneed lust b€ evaluated on the facts uith some coDllon s€nse: 1. The DGEIS says that 95t of the higheay ilprove!€nts be attributed to new devel,opDent. FACT: Anyone can see if not one square foot addltlonal sere built that the present hlghlray lnfrastructure presently needs r$ajor updates just to get to IEs D, In fact, probably 50-75 nillion qollars right now!

coM oN SENSE: Bven soue of the antl-growth lrople in thE 14 audLence at the hearing realize that hlghray iuprovenents are See App. needed nou ulthout any grortb. l{e ar€ also in a developDent Respouaca recession that Dight last Eeveral y€ars. The roads need Dajor rr.0.4 e rr.0.9. fixing nor! 2. Inpact Fe€/Special Taxation suEgestlons that 95t be attributed to new construction:

FAcf: The iupact fee rates, €tc. as proposed if paid up front See App. 14 by De!, developuent uill render th€ airport area uncolp€titive Response to other capical District areas uhich don't bave Llproveuent assessnents. In fact, it b€cones rrcatch 22.r rr.0.3. COMI'IONSENSE: Special taxation Deasures such as an enplanerent tax paid by a1l using the airport rill raise the funds yet See APP. 14 still keep the area colFetitive. A list of our suggestions Reapoosc f,or taxes/fund sources i9 as follous: rI.0.11.

Builders. Developenio Consullants. Managers Ri1:4;4:;1 'l Enplanelent tax 2. wtu6 Yltli:::l:._of the.federat -airporr 8.0 bllrion .lotl :: i:f::y?'..:::?^::,. atr roade.around rhi ii"piitl--ii!=" il*rm, O *.fl : f l_ll,p:.i-i"iii.JliEii!',r,il!-LIiT!- llll.::Yl::i,Y::"1:l'-"is;;:--il;tr,i" piop6.iit.-i.qe-Iiit' ;;;il.s;I"i Bush:,::iT:"^::"11,1?I" on our behalf. ii!3ii,.". Sales tax.for purchases/ser:rrices in ColonLe 4. speclal digtrtlt rax s. Alrport feeltax 6, Hotel tax for tha area to visitorE orh6r periuirt C p"oi.Jill I_.*-:: "n tfroogn nor tn the area as users of the airport area sewice 8. rEoP€rEy taxes r€venue 9. State, Federal, County funding 10. Fuel/gaaoline,/;il 11 tax- Arrport parkinq fee tax as nost parking Colonie patrona u6e Is by non_ LZ. C+garette,/Alcohol surtax t'l fo! purchases nade in Linkase fee ro Colonie devElooers. for'hiEh;;-;"il;; ;r inrensiry other sources to b€ thentilied i;-;il-;"Ehi" to create a bas6 of sources 'irri"Ii"iJiii.crrs can b€, or _runis-so-&r" "todu _ coupteted Ln a rapid ana-cos-i Iitiji"it lanner an €qultable shared basLs on rt ls our firtus contenlign-tha! everyon€'-t"ofi. Dust pay thelr tair share. That inbludes new developr"ni, as. thev presenrrv .*ill:-1rl_1;;;;;;;.t;'i,n".", using the roads usrng the persons airport senrices frou out o-f oui should be done irea, etc. This chrouoh_taxatiJ, i"a ;;;i;g; nor inpacr Inpact fees-io;-iiJiii'in$*ir3l. generalli uncouP€titive fees. a'1"= a.. "t" ir- other l{€ feel that a fair Droposal eil,I. Eet cveryones coop€ration thls regard. The loira te;11 grouth-of in at stake uirh -ftrJ'iaiierthe-io,rn o! Colonie is rhe issies-inv6i".Jl in a proposat :t*"ii.fi:i"r,,airrv shar-a-rv-"".rv"ni"i"-il3unv, .icoiroiiE l:-:?!ld -"ppreeLate if our^courants Ln thi€ addressed in lctter ere th€ final cEIs. r}ri"t id"i'--

pc Fred Fleld Peter platt Su€ Tatro TOWN OF COLONIE MEMORIAL TOWN HALL

RS. IEAN S. OL?O}{ NEWTONVILLE N. Y. r2I28 Toir Hidori.r TlLphom ?8$1a35

October lg, lgg0

.Engineer_ing/PlanningDept., Tqm of Colonie l.lax"rell Road Neubrnrille, Ny I2l2B

Att : t'lary h.rke, planning Coordinator Re: Planning for tlre develognen! of lhe ALrport area. Dear l,lary:

,_.^_ry *rydJ" of Tourign and-Visiration ro Grltural Sites of Historic are being sLressed in all areas of our co.,niry etgnll::r::t counlries. a" ,r"tl as il-i;;: tlaving heard sqrn of the cdrtEnts at recent prblie.neetings reg-erding Drafr.Srudy, I r,rculdlike ro ,.-orffii"i-d" om!f nearby!EIS, lrpor* ot o* $sker Historic Distrj.c!, partieitarli-ttre segrEntor.lr€d by ll'bany county. rtris portion irrr'd6s' fte-Ann-t": Foi, *"r creek ard the *ertandi of the stnker surrounairg thenJ-th;'Sf_L;i;8ry i the Stak€r $*ura.aga lh".gg"" spaces,rrroufoing ;h"; ul!" Jr ,oi"i,"nd-*,"-ii".._ - j"tf,:":"*iiff;;: #lii;{,tr,*.*;;r-i*H'iii* t'linistry,idry. ctreold LaunAry,rhe Barn, rhe c.r;il;-;ni'f."*;-i;;;.-- h"g a_greet-d€al"*Jfld'apqr! rhe econqnie the_"- airport.F benefirc of develotrEnt aroud It nould be highfy derrinrentai io-(n*-urirar"["-;;;;;;;;i; di,*of" proj;;li rd; lj_rldinqs 31d.open space werE n6t p."s"n;. occupieddrich constitures a.,rery- pubricario* iccepabfe a&peive use). Ihrough orrr and other ear.rcationircrirtii& roi-6irt oirar.n .fi promted by the Sraker neritage-socieii ?!d th;-fu;;icai Seie;; "auit"rh.--- pubric is beccrnlnc*r. aia"ifi*;;ri*ug fornding "tore'of'he -r.r-;il;ty. *," sire of the of rhe sfiaker secr in rhe-oid;i-;a The Narional Registerof tEstoric places, as rcII as t}e St"t", of this Disrri6t, i*" recqgnizedthe iglt*tr ."i--tr,"rilri;;;i;;l*, their arcrreoros_

I tnuld ltke to co on record as requesting -rGtr#-protect th.a orT loca]. gorernrrn! App. pttt into effecr rhe eiauring iegislation--to See 14 site' rhG-*tuabiJ i!rroo". _ rr. K.4. p,*pdfuSlrcerely, ?* S. Otto.t cc: lled C..Ftelg, Jr. TotdnSupenrlsor rbry &izzerrr , Depty'goara Sr.peivisor lhnbers of the toln Dtane l^ac&rl ta, Shaker tleritage S@iery THE HrsroRtc^L Soctgrv oF THE TowN oF CoLoHtE

Hrr.oiIAL TowN HALL (a&M& NtwroNvlLLE, New YoFx t2t26.('508 5t8.783.1435

October 19, 1990 fli.r-i.J S..i.,t L-J.l rra

&tgineering/Planning Dept. Tormof Colonie Ita)GreII Road llevtonville, NY 12128 Atl: |txry h.Eke, Planning Coordir6tor Re: Planning for the dewelognent of the Airport Area. At our recent, regular rEeting, the T) slees and (snbers of lhe Hislorical Seiery of t}e Tor,n of Colonie voted rnaninously (50 persorur present) !o endorse presen atlon of the $raker ttisloric Distrlc! as a local historic larrnnark.

. He._nish to srpha.size the inportance of this site, ntriclr has been on the libti.onal and Slate Reglsrirs of tEs toric Sites'sirc.e 1973. It has also been recornnerdedin-the knd Use !|anageoEnt Sr-trrreyand plan which ms cocpleted allrEs! tro years ato, and is awaiting ietion by ttre TonrnCovermeirt.

yl* of the anphasis on derrclogrent of the areas nearest the Air- port In faciLiEies, h,e are especially correrned about the h,rildings, open' space and ueelards in the vicinify of the 6urch Farnily buildingi. Sirce r.re have srnh a urigue slte in our midst ard in the center destined for econqnic grouth,'it should be noted thac peopt- erm-aif See App, 14 orrer- the country and uorld cdtE lo visit Sraker Sites.' Thorsands of ResponseII.K,4. Ioca,l, school groups ard adults harre visited the site and others nearbry :n :rre Prt fes- years. - e{og . real effort ro Feserv,e ard protece ilre staker Site eorld only be of b$€fit to aII.

Sirr.e:ely, 4,r/*; /4-,1 Illtlisn Scheib llenbers of the tllstorical Society Tosn of Colonie Its,/k

CH^irlmo ry ?Ht lfiaax"! ot rHr Ut{yEt!t?? ot rrfl Sratr or Ht$, yott( AFICHTTECTI.FIE E|Y GRE_CIC]FIY nFearE J. SELEIV|AN. PC u,@ 4vE at_BANy^t/ €2il st€r4g4e5€ FAx:€ t.cig3

october lg, 1990

ils, llary Burke TOIINOF COLONIE PLAI{NI t{C OEPARTI,IET{T 272 llaxuelI Road Lethan,l{ex York l2tI0

Reference: cor'$tEilTsFoR THE oRAFT 6Er{ERIc EilvrRoNr,rEr{rAL Ir,rpAcT sTuDy

oearlls, Burke: Please accept the -folI orlng coments, lssues and ques ons to be conslderedand addressedas part of the GEIS. l) TheGEIS seensto be a very tiorolgh anarysisof-nl""ss."v proJected groyth, the inpacts of llg J"oj.gt.o --g-r-orth-and ttre rrfirove-ndnii to rilor the projecred groeth. The GEIS..lll*glr See App. 14 groyth' ,identifvrrg.nanvruethodi ani ollioirs-"io'regurate Response -does-no.t appearto be a t6or-to ioentiry or-estiurllir--iroyiri." maximud iiniru.o o" II.B.10 lever of future grorth, and or r iooilo c6nt-.or u-rti"iie" eels as a base of infornation, r-ho (hor and when)tto ttri'gidi-h'-cddr;s-' regula ons becomeintroduied? and/or

?', Theacceptance of. EEIS be interpreted as the frnal resorution tssuesaddressed (i..e. .shouldquanFitf-nqt ina i;ciii;; of the neasures -the -ogluiureffiur,-iir-" - niirg.tron requtre bjr^ future_.grorth, the establishmntof ner-iiiiig- rnoZo" SeeApp. 14 preservedrsrrrcts. etc.). Theresoiuilon -bodiii or ttresciitas il, iii Response of the.comu.nity and rhi ji r.-ldin:r$iiiiy assunstion sovernins ine coriunrti.- ii ii-in'"i..ur.t" II.B.8. that ruch ggle ror! gr4. ue qgp uv ilre iirniiriis o"'p-"tiien-io-iro, to resoluttonof tters rddrersedin the GEIS?itrrt ls ilre.pfli'uiTfiJ thesenert steps? iom tor 3) It see*. oddthet rlth Jr90 nfllion rorth of lrfigrfio' Easuresproposed rn the l!lg{, tlir nolhingis be-insproposec to ue oonirti, ro-pro"ii-rrflxiriiii:-rrnrtrry See App. l4 .s.e!gr-sysle! (or rack^of exfstfng stnrtr-ryierer-r* systeosrn .rels-uetn Respoose tolf Rord). rhv-hasn'tr coopreh6nJrv"piin 3uch-ri-dresseoas ord proiect san-rtary ,oier - I bv proiect aml.ysis.hrsnot udensucCessrui 1,r' ur-,i or,i'iJij-iiio .".. in the p.st, howuill lt 5esuccessful ln the iuturel ;s lls. llary Eurke TOT'IIOF COLONIE PLANIIING DEPARTI'IEI{T october19, 1990 Page2

See 4) yiexs - Regardingthe scenic identlfied in the 6EIS hor do the lnclusionof these App. ten (10) photographsrffect future developmenton the lands identified in the 14 photographs?lho offlcially acceptsthe viers to be classlfiedas scenic- what Respouse is the criteria of a scenlcyiex? II.B.1l. 5) tfho, hos andxhen rlll the 'rerl' target grorth b€ esttbllshed? See App. 14 3-*spo:rc.r Exec. Sur. 5. Thankyou for the opportunltyto subnit the abovequestions. BRITISHAMERICAN 198 BrilishAmo.ioan Soula/ard, Lath6m, Ny 121.t0 {518}78&6000 F8r (StO)78&! t34 rs

Octobcr17, t 990

Mr. PercrPlatt Chairman PlanningBoard Town of Colonic c/o EnginccrinSand plannin! ScrviccsDcDartmcnt 272Maxwcll Road Latham.Ncw york l2l l0 Dcar Mr. platt:

Amcrican ^appr€ciarcsrhc to commcnton thc Drafr rnvrronmcnrallmDact .opportunity Gcncric "-..,_lllith srudv prcparcdby Clough Hrruoui f", ,;; i;;;'A;;;;.;;; Villrgc. Our commcntsarc as follows:

I. Our calculatioIlsindicatc that th-cmitigition fccs,if implcmcntcdas sct forth tj:gJt.*i'l-ncgativclyurr.ct tr,i-"Lrp"t;;i;;;;, See App. 14 ourccli"ll: markct, or dcvcropcrsin the Response cffccrivcly pricing suchoffiic spaccour of thc.irtitpir... Bccausccconomic conditions Tt n 1 hav- changcd,i;;i;; iruoy _o, inirirtcd and thisarca of thc country is.ina n-cconomiiCo*ntuin, advantagcis nccdcd to sraycompctirivc, Erch_ "r"ry dollrr of implct fccs..ans a tS ccnipcr squaii foot incrcasein thc rcntal rttc. Suchin in"iinr"-"iuld flctor bc a dctcrminarivc in whcthcr a dcvclopcrobtrins a,"nurt or noi.' 'rhc 2. tiigct growth futurc.uscd.by thc srudy is uorcalistic-in in rhat it posirsr growth ratc not supportcd by abslrprion ,ni.s-r""i ifr" past. Whilc futurc dcvclopmcntin thc arcais to bccxpicrcd, it *ifilnorcit nn likcly nor bcar rhc rarc prcdicrcdby thc torgct gro*t'h futu.c. rt ir'i,npol,un, ro rcmcmbcrthar thc ncwspacc bcing builr piimarily See App. 14 is fo, t"n"rr,, .JJing wirhin thc drca,nor ncw busincsscscominr into Response the arca. tn_fact,tf,c"iiowth ratc in thc Capital Disrrict ovcr thc pasi rcn ycars-has II,A.1 & II.B. I only bccn t,-tC. naising thc costsof lfl!t;n! scagcttrr.ough rnitigirion fccs witt'furtlir-i.p"ir.ir"rt-, ;;r;;;;; Duslncss€sin to thc arca-

3. As thc Town of Colonic.has grown ovcr thc ycars, it has also chantcd cha.racrcrfrom primariry in a a8rlculturar.oro.uliii L'n suburb!nrcs.idcntial and officc markcr. As thc Town crrangcsi; cl;iacicr, diff*cnr stlndards gCI rll 1' rl. j^o,:-.ilTo.r.,a--' thcrc---.- is.. svruEgoing toru bcue morc congcstion I T:*:.tTown,s 1"T."ro.ll.roads. TL makc ti" on $'glrtron..rf jto ^, r

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ENGINEERING& PIANNING SERVICESDEPARTMA\T TELEPHONE '82.02{8

DruCTOR

october 9, L99g

l.arry Cal lander Clough, Ilarbour & Associates III l.linne!s Circle P,0. Box 5259 Albany, New York 12295-5269

Dear Larry,

EncLosed f or your infornation are comtnents h'hich I have received to date with legard to the Draft GEIS for the Ailport Aree,

fn addi t ion. please address the folioh,ing comnents from Robert Mitchel I and Mike Lyons of this office:

In the section If. - T!ansportation, page ll9, r.) See p. II-125. number 6. leference is nade to Route 7. This shoul.d be Route 5.

tl Map II-M-l, School District Boundaries. is See Exhiblt incor rect . II-M-I. If you shoutd have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me. incerely, tt.S -D / t\.t.,-1 I . 1)r1<-;- >-a- Mary Burke Senior Pl anner

Peter E. Platt Susan M. Tatro ;?E*Ert,[bi OCTl: 1S90

ILOUGH HARB!.riiJ ASSCCIAIES Aa E7ud Opportaniry EmPloyr NcwtorvillcNcirlrlorhood lrri*im I pII Ed 2Zt N;bdlL, &y, ljll'jDB

STATEMENT ON THE DRAFT dENERIC ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT

The draft statenent, gives the appearance of beinS I thorough studyr including nany interesting and infornative charts and naps and is comprehensive in scope, Those who h'orked on this project should be connended for their efforts and the thoroughness of thetr study.

?here are, however, some points in the docunent which are cause for misgiving. This docurnent wilL deal with what we regard to be sone serious shortconings,

Perhaps the nost inportant of these deaLs with the premise which underlies the analt'sis of the degree to which the area around ''i1igh the airport is to be developed, To describe the growth" in terns of elI of the current development proposals not| on the drawing board creates an entirely erroneous inpression. New proposals are Iikely to surface at ant' tine so that, within the period tiEe of the stud]-, See App. L4 there wi.Il- probably be additiona.l proposals for Response TTT R R developnent, Consequentl-y, "high Erowth developnent,, is a ni s-leading label at best.

Er.en more nlsleading is the tern "target growth deve.l-opment, " A target is a goal of sone sort and suggests a desirable point at which one seeks to arrive, To be rneaningful, there must be sone way in which it may be See App. t4 reached and it must have been deliberately seLected as Respoose II.D.I. ,'tar4et" somethlng which is in fact to be t{ished, This has been culled fron anong the developBent proposals by deleLj.ng those whi.ch have been deened "unrealistic", and there is no reconnendation for any neans by which this "tsrget" eay be achieved. As to its desirability, the study points to "inevitable" danage to transportation, air qual.ity, aninaL habitat, wetJ-ands, historic sites. as wel.L as the expenditure of hundreds of ni.llions of taxpayer dollars. This target hardly seems r.orth shooting at,

lfe also wonder whether the estinate of passenger gronth at Lhe airport took into consideration the effect of the opening of Stewart Airport. People living south of Albany nay find it an attractive alternative to Albany Airport. See App. L4 Indeed' there Day be nore Albanians lured to Steeart than Response II,B.6. ever were to 's other three airports in the past, We rea.lize that the developoent of the airport is not sub.lect to contro.L by the Town, but we wonder to what eriLent the figure given by the draft is realistic in the face of recent developnents.

The apparent onission of any way in which the Town nay influence the course and pace of developtsent to keep it within linits which residents can acceptr is particularly disturbing. We realize that the airport and County property are beyond the controL of the Town, but the SeeApp. 14 purpose of the study is to deal. with those things which +ha Respon se Town can control or, at least, influence. HopefulIy, the I I. B.12. Town will find the means to influence the developnent around the airport to avoid the danage projected in this srudy, "-j-:'

: uichael Zabinski !-' 8 Larkspur Drive Latham, Ner{ York (sr8) 783-7430 september 10, l9 90

Town of colonie Planning Board 2?2 Maxwell Road Latham, Nelt York 2110

: am H:i::ng fltih :egarci :o :he !ra:: Gen3ris Environmental Inpact Statemenl , prepared by ciough liarbou: -"he a$d Assocj.ales, which assesses impacl oi air?o:t e:{paasrc:: upon :he surrounding commu:lj.ty. }-s a res:de::: ci Latham :cr the last iive years, : w:sh io oiie: my conr0en:s ani experiences on ceriain asPecls o: a::po:: exPa:rs1c:-: believe :o be :nadequa!eiy adiressei ::r :le c;ai'" ciocu:::er:. SPecifi.cally, my co:lce:n is wl'-a nig:::ine no!se ar:si.::g irom iixed base ope:atloas anci mai:r'-enance of n-r'.a: : c:- dri van ai rcrai! a: t-he a::po:'-. !:',:.31a:te::::o: :5 lav:sbeC on *,he Probl.em of noise geee:aled ty ie:s upct :ai:eci i anC l.anc:ng, and w::: I e I share ::: ::::s 33nce::- a::c am ocaas:oially bo+,hered a'- :::9h: bi' ::c:se ::o: :h:s sou:ce, :: !s :or me and my iar.:ly o: :3sse: concer;: :jla:: :he 10:se generatsd by proeelle: a:.rc:a:: ;a::ienai:ce a: '-he :::gh:. This phenomenoc :s nci cons:.

FKS Y ' ic . a il.ll.l itt le "!?!i't;; over two years ago two new "'n Js&*..#'.:H::'i$ffiacfiro"tta l::,T".::'li:""::"B.::11:tt €ffi.rt"iitiitl ines besan-oPeration at the atrPgr!' ;;;;;;t'""-"itit:..ti of oelLa Airlines, and rrans vtorld f,iil;;i; in affiliate of rt{A. since thaL titne, we have been iffrost contioually bothered bv nighttime runups, even iirJ"eh such Praclices are specj'f,icallv Prohibited bv .iipoit reguiations (so notld in lhe draft docuneni)' ittiir".m.nl of the noise abatement Program as it re]ates to nighttime runuPs is non existent. Numerous conPlainr's to url uasko both- in Person and by Phone have been inaff,ective: he was evidently either unxilling or unable to correct the situatlon. His advi'se gras !o call the Hhenever I as bothered by runups' Numerous complainls"oee: to the tower itere net with the resPonse that it was Albany county's responsibili!y to correct the situation' In other wordsl all I got nas bureaucratic shullle. Letters to Lhe FAA nere simiiarly full of Platitudes, but lack:ng i:: anv resulLs. It was not until I began going to tne alrpor: at 3, 4, 5, 5 A!{, recording the registration nunbers o: '-he oif end:.ng aircraf!, and complaining to upper ievel managemenL of lhe offenCing carriers that I begalr to ge: some rel:ef. Nigh'-tirne runuPs ceased alnosi ::l:neCia:ely, anC we remaineC free from Cisturba::ce ior a cc';!!e ci r.ree!:s.G:aCuaiIy, howeve:, :he ::;::uPs iealpea:3i, :::::5 :-:rutes ea:1y ( 5 : 55 ) , :he!: :c , 2a , 45 r:.:::ules early, e:c, T:::s, oi lou:se, r.las iolloned by :no:e cornpla:::f,s, r.r:-arir:alre:ur::. ani, so o::, : be:ieve :ha: ,Tasageme-: oi :ne oiiendi:rg ca::ie:s, both o: which a:e hea

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-!: 'r (hcrn:n 5 1,.4 '( (fi SHAKERHERITAGE SOCIETY ShakerMeeting House, Albany-Shaler Road, Albany, N.Y., UA1 (n8) 4567890 .\ w 0ctober ttary Burke Engi.neer ing & Planning 0ffice Town of Colonie 272 MaxwelI Road Mn Latham, Nev York 12110 @; Dear Ms Burke:

The Shaker Herj.laBe Sociely's llission Statemenc is as folLovs:

Founded in 1977, the Shaker l{eritaSe Sociely is dedicated to lhe-education of the public abouE the Shakers and their i.nfluence on,the region' preserving the integrlty of the Shaker Historic District and rehabilitatlng lhe 1848 Shaker Meeting House as an interpretive cenEer.

Preserva!ion of the integrity of rhe Shaker Historic District is crucial to our mission of educating the Connunity abouc the

Shakers and their culture; wiEhou! an intact historic district

it sould be difficult for us to neaningfully interpret the

site, or for the public co understand and appreciale it.

[,Ieare concerned that borh of the developnen! alternatives for

roadway lnprovenen!s studied in the GEIS destroy the integrity

of the hlstoric district and the Church family site by splitting

it nith najor roadvays. These lrill nake lt hazardous to tour See App. 14 Response II.K. lhe site and dj.fficult if noL inpossible !o undersEand the siEe

and irs buildlngs in their hisrorlc context.

thi.s is the sile of lhe first Shaker Seullenenl in ADeEica,

as rell as the burial place of the founder, Ann Lee. As such

America's fil'i,t Shaker*ttlement GEIS pg. 2

il is of, great significance fron bofh historj.cal and archirecturaJ vie$points, and it has been listed on rhe National Regj.sEer of iiistori.c places by rhe DeparEment of the rnteri.or. fhis signifi.cance is lrelL docur0enEedin the historic section of the GEISl. It j.s of interest to many historians and scholars both natj.onally and internationally. Among lhe over 10,000 visitors to lour the site this past yeAr rdere a crerr fltming a speci.al on lhe Shakers for the BBC, and Frilers fron the See App. t4 Nati'onal Geographic society, II.K.4. vhich feacured rhe site in an articreResponse in their Journal.

The Shaker Herilage Socj.ety consid,ers !hat preservation of lhe Church fanily sir,e consistinS of Shaker buildings; fields, the orchard, Ann Lee pond, and the Shaker ceneIery is of prirnary importance; a nap showing rhis pura or rhe hi.storic disrrict in noredetail is enclosed. The inpact of roads through the site is a negaf,ive one, since they tend to split the contiguous site into isolated elenents, and Lhe hisLorie See App. 14 disErict sourd be best preserved ResponseII.K.l. if traffic can be directed around the site, not through ic.

The critlcal segnents of roadvays rre are taLking about are (1) on Albany Shaker Road where lt passes by Ann Lee pond, then turns north toirards the Albany CounEy Nursing Hone (shown on rhe a!rached nap) and (2)Ilatervliet Shaker Road _.::l_:l:_l:::::::::::_.,"ar Ann Lee pond ro lhe shaker cenerery. 1. rhecErs, r. i;_i;;:ia;-;;;;;;-;;;;-il;;;;;;;;-;;-;;;;;;;""",-inu"ncr.on, :l,t!9 ?r:1: of archirecru"",_corr"i-e, relision, ig", f,B" l"* {l"'ilifit, aIi""g;ta i:;"1#";er:;ii:;tir:iiilgl,,.. llli: :'."the openspace,,.have "'',";fa uis""f r,o;rc;;;";;"" rernaining s truc tures.,, "ru"i"i GEIS pg. 3

These roads cut up rhe Historic DisErict now, but traffic usually flows sIowly, as it did historically, because there are several hazardous incersections, and the roads are not vid.e, Both al!ernatives exanined by the GEIS enlarge these roads and, (aIso 8reat1y, as nored in the cEIS irself) will have a significant and adverse impact on the integrj.ty of the Historic si.te. This impact rrill not ,,mitiga_ be improye.d by che suggested. See App. 14 tive measures,,. Response II. K. l.

An alternative: we note that the airport access road. bypaSses both dangerous inrersections 3135!the historic districE, and connecEs the sections of Albany Shaker Road above and belos (n & s) rhe Hisroric Districr. Enlarging lhis road has all the benefits of enlarging Albany Shaker Road lrithour hurting rhe historic distrj.ct at a1l. It vould even help to alleviate an existing bad condi.tion. Sinj.larly, a bypass fron I{atervlier shaker Rd. park behi.nd Heritage vhich connecred to the nor!hern end of the airport access road would. alr.eviafe more traffic See App. 14 pressure on the Response II. K. L hazardous inlersectj.ons, and woulcl easily connect lhe easI and west sectlons, irnproving traffj.c flow, and red.ucing the bad effects of the traffic on the hi.storic d.istrict.

This alternative nould inprove the bad inpact of roadcays on the hisroric digtrictr rarher than destroying the histori.c disrrict, would seen !o be a lot less expenslve than the alter- naEtves studied, and irould dranatically inprove access to Heritage Park as wel1,

We are upset rhat the sections of the GEIS seen to have been GEIS pg

done in i.solation. A major concern of h j.ghsay inprovenen t s ought to be to eliminate any bad irnpact on vaLuab1e his toric resources, yet here none of the obvious a1!ernaEives which would avoid the problerns have been studied. Far fron improving the situation vith respect !o the historic disEricE, both alterna- tives exacerbate existing problerns, and vould have a devasEating effect on lhe Historic Dis!rict.

Sj.ncerely,

Shaker Heri tage Society, Si te Comrnir tee RR: amh I Ftr 9nr\|n

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WIOENNEW KARNERROAD TO FOUR t.^^iES WITH .\_

REALIGNI, OPPSITEA EXTENSION

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I rF:!4n? PURE WATERS DEPARTMENT IOAWADEROAO I-ATHAM. N.Y. 12IIO

JOSEPHJ CI-II€FARI OIRECTOF 785-3102 785.3716 OavroC McMoRRts ASSISTANTDIRECTOR

MEMORANDUM

TO: Mary Burke, Sr. planner. EPSD

FROI'I: David McMorris, pure Waters Dept. DATE: 19 October 1990

SUBJECT: Albany County Airport Area _ Draft GEIS

The Pure Waters Department has reviewed the above subject report and find it to be acceptable as drafted. 9e

DCMrUgh .*v to Draft Bneiromental Arrportl::!:::., Area rrpact statelent subritted by Rita fleis

To-facilitate review mX_goTTgnt9_sec;i;""_;iilvritl folloh, the specif ic fortnat of the :;.i.j::"::,.;:,::5y, reconmendationsand Sumtl|a?y

The overall inpression rs one of excel.J.ence. outstanding. The graphics are Research rs Grade r| concise. ano the writing clear and

:l:":i:':;"';31i!-:;:".::i"-i: lv'! to ambitious-rorthe sane (a) cost See App. 24 .runor.n9(b) geotosicar"?:*T:]:9:"d: . . and oi"' Response enviroimeniai-;;;;;;;'".rrmrtations (c) lesa1 restrictions"our"" (d) II.A.

Misconceptions can reexamin-atio;.;-;";; be ::.i;:.::":l.lr3!i:3rjii;"rininl rnu"*. AirDort

i:::'Jr.:;Hffi"l";"::r._geveroped as a majorhub but-is a reeder fif.:;.iit?;;;;i";;;';::iiil,lli."?l!'ffi;U leacheo ::i:;:.!.";;:="=' i;;;;;;."::;i:::l;""ii_:rmost:u:, ;ll:;u:ii"riji.i:i;,';;";;uv'in" acruar.fisure jri;;, or i*U:l*:tilii:;;iil.expected.cenerat ;,fi eviation i.t oieiatioir-Jlr" onry r.nstead of 4 ,IZL. [ ].1 r.ezs

Airport expansion has p::?u":,_trr decrine more Jrne. U.S. Air[3]"i,iinI-.;l::ilj:lr:lu,li'11"":"" (3) r ii:,ll3; B:;:J:1",1r,,3*r*r.,sii;:;::Iruf:*":lii"*ti,5;{.*",.":,.ll u, u,' cut, ;i ;.':.::l::?li"'" a decline in passenserboardins wi.ll

Depogtalhics

Table Ir-A-2 predicred popurarion of AI growins 99,677 in 200s,l6l?-go-t9li"- 'tn. ,Z5g in I989 r'ggo .;;;;; prerininary report llly!9 ]9:r?z_peoprein.the. t"rn-u,ij ;;:-il" virrases,,.[7] Even i!!l"lnii"rfl;r;:'il::-;; in the^cirail;";;;;;; popurition'i; - estirnaie. r;i' i"';;i".'i 3;l?i"1"il:.ir:r5:;1ff:":"::i:., ";iii tot 200s. "rn" i""ir;;'"fiil. See App. 14 nousrn9:l:_pI?j""!i"nunj.t dropped . or personsDer "r'- in the pasr dec;de;;;;-2:s i.-zl.si,ii^sr ResponseII.A. I An important omission in the study is the itnptication makeupof the population. of the rn the rrorking .Natiorriffy tn.r""hu" o""n slor, growth boomers age population Jo"-io, ttl-;iu, baby "no-iiriiir'Ii rn" uunybust eeneratilltliiIror Page 2 ComnentslA irpor t GEfS Rita t{eis

nIn the Capital District the proportion of the population age I8 is even loeer-than. under the niiii.ui".Jirug.. A1so, the 9:!i:"1-District's popurationi;-;ie;; inln .n" average". [ ].11 narional 'AIbany C9!!!y is growing older, the year and is expected to age th(ouah zuls and beyondl--rn risg tr.,i-ei6!"v cor"iy-i.pui"Iilii aged 60 years and ou:I ,iJl ."rpii"."iurii'rg.s* of rhe enrire countv popur.ation' rhe erderly; p"iti.uiirrv are. rncreasingly tn" ord"i ;iil;;",, , Iiving arone,,.tr)l it.reioi., ir,"- ratro may continue to decline. ".."p"."i. in the birth T!!-i:"::"": rate. nol, occurring, has begun to the Lower- 9rades. sourh coloni--nis erementary:Tl::1. openeo two schools in trro years. t13l In ten years thev mav.be.impacting economic home purchases, Aroh,th and in 29; 6euond the tirne fiame then population toi-itris study. until fiiures srlouLd be stable. The econonic effect of these figures are direct. groh'th in The slow the rdorkino age.populition ,."uit"o economic tro,i in a decline in srol,th, z,i t; i;;-i9;;,]-il'i* in the .t9s0 ,s now to only .6t becauseof: fewer and residential.,construction r,ou="norit".rulion"-uni i!""" and its resu.tts, .Less furniture, equipneni; "".J..ii".t neans!:T:id-for ;;;.--il;"otder population Less demandfor consunergoods. Il4i other economic forces which affect the real ity of the l119loe..1t. ProPosedare: (l) oeut uuioen] public and priuate. consumerdebt crinbed fron gzz.s savings uiriioi--Lo' tgs.e uiiri.i'Jnii" See App. L4 dectined from 7.5r to r.et-iiom"fi6r to rgaz. rnstartmenr debt rose.16s. rh; ;;v;;;; Response II.A.2. 5.f8.[15] (2) ,ii. i" recoveringto The shift to a service 6.onJrv-''-"'' lnstead of a manufacturing one means Lower incorner. The EneironEent The executive sunnary on page 3 nentions that 3,320 acres of the o,5eg or 39t acres in *re-siuay Jtirr-r".ting, unaeveropea. Mr. Peter-Coneay, at the pub.lic iniorr"iiJ"if";;;-;;; that nentioned 34t woul.d be developed feavint o"iy-Si-ot the area green bel.t areas, fof Such developnent eould be directly opposed to the goals of the peopre of colonie as defined in tfre i br,uc proieci"ina siuay: lit See App. 14 conserve Historical Sites (2) Conserve key open env spaces and Response lronmentally sensitive areas. (3) Mainiain actrve agricul. tur aL J.ands. I I. B.15. In regard to the latter, -the study mentioned four $ays this-'ippe could be accompl.ished. I16] _ OnIy preferential asses sien i ar" to be presently practical it tha feefing expressed by the Page 3 Cotnnents,/Airpor t GEIS Rita lteis

farmers are to be considered. [17] Insufficient research has been conducted on rale plant anima] species. ',gased and The report states: on correspondence :::l^BlI.:tl Buffington of Dec and'tieiJ-i"Jestr.eations. no state or federal rare o! endangered ,"rraiiun species inhabit rhe study area". Il8] Not exactl.y. What Mr.. Buffington,s Letter said was: nsite specific or conprehensive sunJeys i"i-pii.t-"rd aninal occurrences have not been conduLtea...ie-cunnot prov j.de a definitive statenent on..the_presen". habitats oa-"O"unce of species. See p.II-40,II-55 or conrnunities.. tlgl The field investigations.mentioned have not consideration' been documented and See App. 14 ii""t5'il"ili|iirl"' i""lu.ion in the rin;t oiait n."po,,serr.D.4 The mitigation neasures.on pp. 4j to 49 are atso well out, strict site clearing, thought ir"" pi.""iuliion, inspections and the tlro for one tree ieplacenrlnt "rt" ecotosical tofJ-irorr."". specific studies noro proirise-;;;-r;;;;.8-iJ!'iona need for a municiDa-I tegistation, rhe pta; fo; in.-1"" is point cooperatioi between. a L,eIl ::I:li. the affected nunr.crpalities is In.regard ro the pond, it" rrere.-.l3lt3!_i::: nentioned iirr.,r"9 possibirities in the,text but-disieguiaeJ-i" in; ;pp""iii-i, FuIl Environnental. Assessnent Forrn. The section on Aquatic Ecology rras fascinating. of legal possibiiities_raises The delineation envr.ronmental nee hopes for protection of areas. The Section agi ot-itte-Federal Cf;;n Act (p9. 52) as to the tiater responsibility of properry owners to the of Engineers would seen u'majoi-nurole ot!:t:^9:rp: most of to devetopnent the area invo_lved, rne no--a";i'oi'"rr nli-foss pot icy (p9. wourd furrher inhibit 53) devetopmenl- is the statement on page 54 "In order to protest the conmunities existing ecological in the study-Area it-is i;;;;;;;t rhat contiguous undevelopedparcels be preserved".

This was underscored in the lette! Mary clark, to Bulke from eJillian J. D.E.c, [29] His.poj.nt is that th" 6o=t of devel.opnent outeergh the ,,open may benefit since / riIu.u, areas are a rapidly dwindl inq resource in'coroirie,"p^".-- pailicurarry Airport wotf .iornJ tn. / n6ad area. This nakes tie eitau:.i.snmentand nalntenance of permanentopen space greenbeJ.raleas Y!ca-a q e i i-r,rl a vital

vrould inctude: Ann Lee pond. glatervlj.et Historic Dist!ict,:i:-iycleus several. hundred acres of freshwatJr wettands associated with Ann Lee and Stunp ponds as rdeLl as the Shaker Creek j.ts and Headwaters. the Sh;ker Creii corridor. Mohah,k River t{etlands, Shaker Creek tributary on the east ;ide ot ttre Page 4 Conments/Airport GEIS Ri.ta tieis

Airport and See Avis Drive, the Shaker Ridge Country porrion of the t0o yeai troo-fi;;;."'-," "- Club and a App-,.l4 Response This doesnrt Leave much to develop. II.D.5.

Section B cround gfater

s:verg .::::-"gi:l inpacts shoutd hinder deeelopnenr. A depth g seasonal. Y?::l_:ab]e of inches conpletej.y surrounds 1|rrport except -to.I4 the--- south of the .unriy'io-ti,i noiitrit. ",.=t All of the area rlest to Sand Creek ( inctuding stutnp pond Linit) and north to Roure to its t5s i" ;;;;;;;; areai east of sand creek (sourh Famitv to.enn iee-p.rai-JnA-'iI..h" shaker Roadto rhe- jair of 155 on Atbanv Jie u"tn-'r.!nli:i""Xr"u" Exhibir rr E_2: II page nthe ::::i:1 60 Stornwater Flows entrre shaker orarnage area is creek aDDroximately 7,60g i"i"s-'ot which 6,I00 Iie h,ithin the Stuiy Are3',. acres .stornwater run_off l:?:-!2 resulti.ng fro' rain and snorrmel.t dralns off paved surfaces at the airiort, varlous points shaker creek at and eventually enters' itre'Uoirasx"nt"r" nive. approxinatery one ni.r.ewest lnd upstre;n oi''an i.ntake structure to the Latham iiater Disrrict,s tiitriiion-pfunt,,. drain to "eiatersheds CIass A drinking water supp]i"" oi .o envtronnentalLy senslt ive lands',. (p9. g) Given these facts any building in the area should be identify areas reguired to that iilt. r"quire the v,,ater tabte and the land use nhicli coufa"*.uuuiion-oeJ.ol, trive-ii" poa"ntiuf to store contarninantson site.. 1pg. 5G) The cost protectinq of the erater tabte should be an development anticipated :9.t 9{ ii the entir" ur"u una-.ay makea project unprofitabl.e. rf not,.tl-" :9r.!l!.V ,iir-r,iu" ro pick up damage controL costs hrhich I find an unacciptable airernative. Page 82 arso identifies frooding areas i,hich nake building rnpr act i caL:

1. Old 9io1f and watervliet Shaker Road t 01d [{olf and A]bany Shaker Road Albany shaker Road near Ann Lee pond See App. 14 Shaker Creek fron the Airport to Route 7 ResponseII. E.2. It also nakes road improvements more expensive. Sone reconrnendations in the environnentaJ. section are practical nore -than others. but al.l are worthy of consideration. Sone.would require legislation. the sugiestrons to involve aLl reveis governnent o! has special merit. The Ann Lee pond area ras mentioned but the same argunents could be maale for tbe entire Airport area. An enviionrnental committee for that Page 5 Connent s,/Airport GEIS xlEa rJels

sueeestion' others ::'!l::t:i'l:,?: :1":t'"t in the cErs report

1. 0verlay Distr ict 2. creenbelt sej,ective purchase noney from alevelopers ? Conservation easetnents Strict site clearing and tree preservation (already in pr09ress j.n Col onie ) T"o f9i one tree reptacement 6.) >pecr t rc ecological studies neouce densities aLl.owabl.enear greenbeLt major_ reconnendations areas to protect tne enviionm"nt ,ould ef f ect i pI:"lyde any furtirer oeveiopmeni-i;"i;; u tct y:"ly ot the Airport. im,nediate

0n page II-53: Net t"11-Oo]icy which ,,!equires obtain a wetJ.and a developer to disturbance -pernit to .i""t" a conparabl.e arnount of new wetland area,,. 0n page II-54 connection ,,In of wetlands: order protect ecologicat to tbe :Il:t:n9 conmunj.ties in ir," iIuJv Area. it rmportant that contiouous-undeveioi:d-p_iIJi" is oe preserved.o Histo!y supports thi; idea as tire SrrirEi=-pip"e vrater Pond and all are fron stunp connected ut ti," ,ut"i-Iu5ie r"u"r once lost, never recovered. The help availabte-couurnr.nt from the USDA soiL conservation Service - See App. I4 of the Fedlrii at no should be obt a ined . cost Response I1.D.5. t til it i es

The total cost of suoolying rrater as outl ined in Section fI. page 61-of $25,s24,3b-g.wouid make tn" .oif-'i". dwetting unit square foot of commerciaJ or space i,igi, lut-it-rrould be fair assessit to newdeveroprneni. New-sewate-u"o to being applied . ,ai"i-cipiiiii ur" to Roure7 and should-n.-iipoi.roned to any nee devel.opment in the area. Niaga!a Moharrk's clain, of capacity available is suspect. company-aLready The See App. l4 cuts the resl.dential .Jpiciiv at busy esPecially times Response the Cbristnas Season. Secona, ifr"y pursuing timed rate a II.G.I, service to stretch the capacity they "r.already Any have. new expenses should be assi.gned io exiurrli6r, prop.itiJ".' Transportat rion

Exit 3 dever.opnent and the arterial from Route 7 to !io.r.f Road ale unaccePtable on these counts:

I No sol.ution to traffic problems ) Env ironnental lv dev ast al I ,l cosi ".' Page 6 Comnents,/A irport GEIS Rita Weis

Ner.roads do not solve traffic problems. Alternate 7 is at capacity at peak hours,_Route ?- is being wiJenea not neet the anA ,iif-stlff demand. "Route Z improvemEnlsl..wiff not Ue sufficient to acconmodatean addiiionui-[tlougnfane.. (Transporration, rr-133) vet ttris-iii.oujii-irattic is shat should be acconmodated.. consider tfr. tiiific count (Map If H_L "L990 Existing Traf f ic,'):

l.l Foute 7 vrest of Albany Shake! Road Dail.y - 35,719 ?.! Route 7 east of o1d rliskayuni n"uJ Dafly - 3.) 34,47 7 Route 7 east of tlladeRoad- DaiJ. y - 33.179 OnIy 2I/2 thousand cars are leaving Route through. 7, most are 9oin9 liade Road only carries :,irz ciis so the ra,idenins arteria] and T:::-I:?9 are botn 3 is likervise r.mpractlcal.. It rrould ".r"..i"iiyl-'ixit bring traffic t; the busiest of wolf Road. (41,74I Map rr H-r "1690 eii"ii"g ,i.Itri."l "r.a Soad Much of r{olf traffic is serf generated., 3r,65i trorn noute h,est of 5 and 35.719 Atbanv Shaker Road. rni i"ieictraiii ua-n;;-";;.;iil;; etolf shakerRoads iorks we1rJii.pi-ioi"*,!"iili,lEri and Atbanv tbe ptanned service road rniglt i.r.oi,-t-nill-'5 rnsteio-ii..;;;;-i; have a]l truck traffic exit-at fxit inJ-.fo". the yestern See App. 14 ranp at 5 ro facilitate-this. on Exit 5 i"-uii", uti.tized and this ResponseII.H.l6. woul.d move car traffic faster.

reason against the arterial and Exir envlronmental:!:.::::19. 3 is the danaqe to Ann Lee pond, the rratershed shaker area and creek "it i; in clear conflict krith Freshwater 's the state,s t'eetland Lah,' . [2g] Third is the cost in terms and ]and and noney (II p9. I47,t LS: acres RO9{$ I25 .59 9,0 99 Recommended is the suggestion to "linit traffic on Road the Airport 1::::: to Airpori related traffic oniv-"s:.nce aer of rrarrtc is through traf f ic,,. [21] The study {Transportation), p9. I19, includes a list of lmproeements to inprove traffic fr.o' at nuch less construction. prudence cost than Dew'-if would dictate that they Ue tinislea. See App. 14 problernsrrere still unsolved, neh,const;;ation-would better have a ResponseII. H.20. understanding of which n,ouiO-UesuUiect io neiuV t ransportat ion asEessnents. "rea"

I endorsed all the reconrnendationsbut feel #3,4 and g[21] involving watervliet shaker Road.shou.l.dbe given prio.ili' because the nerdtot n buildings will severefi impai:t Another tfris'area. idea is that British American strouii pa! for ttre iwo inprovenents at their road. These have been LoirveyeA to CptC. Ai? Oual i ty

Page 163. The carbon monoxidelevels (l4ppn) are exceedealat six Page 7 Comtnents,/Ai rpor t GEIS Rita Weis

intersections already rrith the worst 24.Ippm Central Avenue. at '{olf Road and

Besides traffic mitigation measures, of hrhich varied mass work hours, transportation u3n" for employees are prontsing; Lorrer inq traf f ic volurnes_by119 cur tail ing- the prol ected devel opnent may be our sore oo.ill:,t!; . like and depression conditions ,niy a.rso drop"ouring-oir-fir.." tratfic counts, Noise

Noise restrictions aLso.r:9:":, the possibitrty the Airport of development in Area. On If-166 these areas are: Buhrnaster River Roads to and rhe north, wateivri.i'iil"t.1, Karner Road east of tllotf Road and between Sand Creei inJ"ii,ur"r noaO. Residential construction would be difficult, deed restrictions mentionj.ng the damaging noj.se Leuels r,rould be nandato!y, Business or retail buildings h,ould require extensive and expensive insul at ing techniques.

Nen noise-testing should be done before any nore concrusions be reached since plane can patterns vary, the iyp." or pJ.anes changed and have See App. 14 hel i.copters h,ere not iniluded in rne previous study' [22] citizen ResponseII. J.8, ingut should u" incruo"a. Any notification testing wasbeins aon"-rouio-"Ig.I! th" p.II- 184y II- 185, l:"ifl. accuracyof such TT- I Or'

neasures nentioned on pps. 174, exceLlent:t-!^.^ll:::".lon (a) L76and 178 are Noise overlay iu)'5ijiiun." for buyers homesin 6s1dn(r wourapreiei "on" i;rd;'";;;;;.ar-r"i-""i,viJ"i. of coupLes since infants.are especially susceptrore) h,rth noise inpacts- in the deeds (c) proiriuii ;i9;i-;;:.u.rons and especially (d) an ongoing moniroring'p;";;;;. Tiro unfortunate factors make this Iast item eEpecj.al.ly rnportant: (1) plane overloading whicb keep th- plane. lower noisier over residential and areas i:l nog..-piLots or J.ost ones uho fly unacceptable routes at tow al.titu6es,'especi"ifV-i,i;i;;- "-- sunner over swinming pool s. Eistoric and Cultural

This section eras outstanding for its depth and cooperation of all contacted part ies.

Tto comnents deselve special emphasis as again seeerely development. liniting

(a) II-L87: nthe entire Study Area is considered a bighly sensi t ive archaeoJ.ogical arean. Page I ;?TI"l:i("t'Port cErs

(b) .survev II-195: bv archaeologists-si;;;-;. should be developmenr pr reguired for aLl 6po-sars wi ttrin' ttre " . "u Two mitigation rneasures (pg, lg9) require Torrn action inmedi atel v:

].) Refine boundaries of t{atervliet shaker uistoric See App. District (nap shows differences) . t4 Response z.t .E;nactmentof an ordinance for a Town preservation II.K.4. Cotnnit tee . Piscal llpacts

Besides the declining economy, the study itself proees that lega] environnentaL i.stri.tio's; 9;;;;i ,-aier, nearth risks. traffic overroad, noise inpedinenti and concerns nake even the rimited target development scenailo"uiiurar ,ou.n too anbitious. The_conclusiol -ol applying 95t of costs to future developnent sound but eould is be difficult to inplemeni-"io-'" ,"*" profitability See App. alnost impossible t4 for any devetole;:---"' Responserr.0.11 ff overlays are deveLoped for green space. aquifers, traffic overroads, noi.se areas-and See App. L4 hisioric ;;;;;; ;;" rruth of my conclusions would be apparent. p]ease pui Response oratt. tir", rn the final II.8.16. Footnotes

r.) gPJE Section rr, Noise p9. 2.1 189 lable 2. Tigg?,u"log,.lred., Aueusrr.s, tee0 uecrron B-3 by Bill 1l Schackner. *l{9#nie*._ rues. , septenrber4, 1990 Reprinr lrom ;ffii::.:-tr, trre'wusiiigton post by Martha 4.) l+e-ft+dr, s;.t ion sla-!E-Ti-- *+49+_ll!+cir, Friday, september 7, Lsgo l:::i9" B-r by siri schicrner. 6. sectron 'l sE+!. II page 3 Table II A_2. septenber ;ff:f-H*"r**, 26, Lsss votumerr {22 paee a

LS Times Union, rThe Chanber.,.October Z, Igg0 page 6 John quorine fron Blue chip i;;;;n;; H. 11 lord.9:::n" i;;icarors. l2 Albany County oepartrnent tor the Agin9 page 2. and Handicapped, 1.3 south . r**\trY::*' coronie Board of Education, !,!ay r4.) 10, paee 1s,) ?;iof"".no." 8. 15. ) .qPJ,5.,Section rr, page t4. 17. ) :r'rmes[Jnion, Sundav, October r8.) 7, Iggg Section C page 5. €€{S. secrion rr. iiqe rq. lq \ GEIS, tndsx. lettei [o.L. Ca]Iander from B. Wild Life Resource Buffington, 29. CenEer. ff};rlllt-'corresponaence fron ei. ctark. DEc. Decenber t1 gg6f GEIS , ien 11, page 133 CDTC GEIg, Studies. Sect ion II, Noise Page 169. New YorkStale D€partmentof EnyironmontalConsorralion 217 6 Guilderland 'relephone Aven schenectady' NY l'2306 turrl ,rr-oEEt - - - October 23, :. Thomrr C. Jorllng Commlsrionct

Mr. Peter platt Chairnan ff,,f*, Colonie Town planninq Board 272 Maxwell Road Latham, Ny 12110 w&v

Re: Albany A r./ide cEIs Dear Mr. platt:

prepared_for this rnportant.,__- Th".GEIS study area represents a verv and significanr step to loik r""*iit-iIi.Jir-tiE'i.rt,.." order to ptan for it as rrett i. =t""Ji"iill =oro" ,key developnent !::I?:i31.:. such as"= ;t"rrij"i"i-"Jntro:., -pi.JJruution eros ron/ sedimentation"tandards I and natural _contro tir. of mature and trees. As r stated. in ny oecefibui-zr, stakes trere are rges Letter the high: wrrat is tr.rl that v,r-shes to maintain for "r.,.ii.i.r the cornmunity the future. il;;-;; n""nr;-.;";11;-!i.*ii=ion this section of the Tolrn of colonie.t;-i.;; beyond? I have rJ.Ke J.n 15 years and See App. I4 specific concerns with the cEfS ennunciate below, but,a lrhich I r./itl Response more. generar aonaarn is.that, while support the effort made? r rina r fur-lyl II.B.I. tir"-sii;;-;;" rinitecl irsel-f to ::::::13rly.onry. a coupi. oi-ei""t'h ;;;;;"[ ^l arrernatives. unrorrunater'y, the two scenario" And r""i.J--Ii higrr growth and do nore to react to devel-prnen[ tarqet $:N:t, [i"ia= rather than contiol continued - growth is certainly inevitabre oesrreabre. However. and \{ithin rinits even no low gi""in-;".i.ii"-conc"i""iii^i.r" aleveloped cErs which night have rouna in the DeEueen a "u.appropriate balance deveLopnent needs- and ."rr"""iiy-lnuiu"a.rTr,ua.rral needs, For resource exanpre, the_highway il;;#"#;; projecrs under the target srowth sceiaril discussed coral cost stagerring in terms (over a $roo.rnir.r-ionr ila";;-;;a-;;iy ;;;.;i of in c"itiin o, tn" improvernents ;::1.":rTff.i:g ;:,Ii"us ;;;i;;.. teruanv!nix",_i"ia i" Exit 3 opciontJoii"Ii.l'"li!..:.$:fi*"jg':l;i:::li"iir;:i];-th"-- comnunity character cost proposed as.,"fi. i"-.iiiiu"" ao nany highway improvement proiecis,-iiiJ-irpu"". of the cnese severar hiqh imoact associated r.rith profound rrieillrai-i"&;e;; pioj.JII -;":"-i""ra be significanr and unfortunitery trii= and depth nor describe in all of their inpacts nor make enough n". qi,,"-"I'serious . .o.o"i. jusriry arlernatj.ves.!l:i:_l::a, i;;i ;.-;$:;':ll":iffr:o For exanple, insieiJ .i Jp"iai"g north-south arteriar 52s nillion on a or- Szi mi:.ii;; i;";:;.;"'tii'ltiategies an rr lhose nonies were progranned. airport tunnel rdhaE int" so that as one -2-

possibirity viabre 10w cost mass transit arternatives could and a systen or incentive=--iiJ be naale SeeApp. 14 illri::}. i""":.ties set up to pronore Response II.B.1. The difficult" in.nerely reacting-tne to developnent trends, essentialli thei:_tl?t connunity a"i.pi.-ii-iJ'err.t" proposition that is no linit on qroith in eici, there and-ana imp:.eneiiiig-irilr"=.E,rve rikrev that given the peoprel::I.?t-g"r.l"pi"s -in.i ways of uovins around the hiqhway inprovem6ni= proposed g:::-Iirt becone under the ous6ret-e ;e-;";;;;i;.i"-.oaitional""" costlv rmprovementsin the ruture. rnus noi-oniv-"i.-rJiil-iiiiiil"t foresone_.f".-pr"i""ti"; ?!!?*:liti"s ;;: or tlre town,s nore rmportant rernainino naturar resont""'ur"niti"", See App. 14 few resource aneniiies uni-i., !ri!l[ are not affected Uy-tfrasa proposed plans"nrt Response are rikety to be devourea. :.n III.B.3. addj.tionar,,necessary" ttre-iuil;; ;i qeveropment ana puuric-i"rii;;;.;i"" rmprovenents. r can appreciate. th:l_.?_ Io: tne preparation of .tine and effort has gone into of this docunent, and that v/as hord nany one of the key guestions aLternat:_g"9$t a"""i"i.!nt. scenarios docunent look at. tn:r:_::: ""a shouLd the a nur0ber.oi-q"oa ideas in the document ror protecting naturar-areas, strengthenirif qeveropnent perfornance an€t standaralizing standards a! werl is neetr.ng needs which r can suDoort--wholeheaii"Jiy-.io infrastructure unfortunately, hrill d.iscuss belolr. by li;iting sone of the iption" (for opcrons 1 or 2) exanple, highway this has ou""r.r"a-.or; ;;il rnporcant possibilities ror effectively dealing_witn ttrelompJtiiito.r.r,ds and envrronmental protection. between growth uy splciiii comments are as follohrs: l-' r strongry suggest. aarding consideration. scenario of a low grorrth for the stuaty a;ea. i-"ii."-ini= that it is suggestion knowing crui-te r.ikeiy rro'o ti"-=iiiapoint of deveropers that rhe tiig.i-;r.;in'Ji!ii.i".urready rand ohrners and Iow growth .""..".ig:, n6wev6r, represenrs a scenario uy noi-'ioo*rng ar a lou growth and evaluating its pio.. urrA-"orrsand inpacrs of the rriqn inpacts vs. the gr6wih-uio-tn!"iuliet-Ji=,n"trrer growth scenarios discussion has been itrort ciicui["a nrght finCl the conmunitv such low.grohrth to be nore desirabl,e both Iess cost for^ii_f"i=Cr""tii.*iiirl.r"r.rr." in terDs of as wert as preservation of the open space nore .na "i-io"ra,riirraf amenities which nake See App. I4 cotonie a desirable. piu"" [o-ii""]-it-iaii gror./th suggest a tow RespouseII.B.1. scenar'o that roorcs ti"-o".,r"IopDent the target growth scenario. levels of

2. fn addition to the analysis shourd of a low growth scenario the cEfS so one step r"rti,"i-aii i.;;"":i, concept of seriousry at the mandarory elustering inJ ii_rrrr developnent secElons of the study in the area wtri,in aireaay constitute the urblnizei^cor"d;i;i ;il7oi Ene_essentialry communitv (for - res:.oential centers of exanple woff noady . of deveropneirt'is -tncreasing the density olvioi;iy";-;;;i:i,,'i, as current trends we assume a reacrion ro ttrat-g""rii;-"-ind iftordaUie anO"9.r.r, convenient Dass transportation is_out.of trr" therfore ee have to 1.1:l_:'gry!fi"g uT:ulg on rrte particutarry at key,""" ".rr'iJlJ-i..-p"r.o. road ;I;:.* "r".iiri-""i,gested rihes of rhe -3-

Yet the experience in-urban_cities clenonstrates people can be that far nore accomnodated in-ii"-rlJl-=iu". tr i.nfrastructure needs are atEernatives119- !l.n:O".tation net in .-rii-trrut fosters-"u"_i"ofing such as hass.transj,t,-biii";;-"il: car_plorinf, transit), warxing, more-rntensivelyi:l:",13== worr Road courd. be developea wittr i"_ij.ri-J.""Iopnent exrstl-ng buildinqs betlreen tacconplishect of develophent riqhis irorn, tle "iifr-tfr"-trunsfer wourd c.".nl-ii7c"!"r,r.y areas (Lrhich be preserved,t ro these i;;iit-a;;I1 a_substantiat portion_of it coupted r{rith: trr. p."iJlla-illt-.iiiiuining irp.o*,enenr are progranmed towards nonies acquiring' ."a nass transit y:l,r"l"= and facitities.lfor ;;;di;,-;-;Jnri.nation both buses and vans fleer of srmJ.Iar to the S.T.A.R. flexible prckup/dropoff svsten geared to tn.- a"=t-i"utions of riders their density in-the sohe and parking of the outfyinq areas), on_site car is. reduced, parking r."" i".iljlEa rares are - ana mass transit held low through subsidj.;s ;;-a;ey-".r. affordable and would be extrenlv cornDetj.t"" strategies as these would offir a "iirr-aiiii"i-g sucil development yery real possibifity or focusing on the Tohrn,s-i'rim" crearins "iii""-i-ia^ center appears:::l9yr srid-_tock'""-'w"ii-iJja-iit:."n"o*"r.i.al is h,here it, to be headed based upon current the highsay improvements. trends-ilrs uith or without pr"i,o=.J-ii-li. and wou] of.preservinq lhe I d trave :::-:9y1":lSer.rrepl-acable, op." =pi""L which are coupied tnli'Eil.ili.ffi::':??;.Ili.ili':i*=T:;t;:l:..unicue trans itlnurripl"iir" e See trinsit_ artetnative;;;;i; provide tbe crrrrcaL mass necessary.to-entice; App- 14 i; ;;;r force peopre out of Ill_i-I_:l"= and get ,".9yt of the vicious clrcle Response nrsnways, nore cars of nore III.B-.2 .= ".1:l_l? 5.31 r9"gi"r, irternative solurion l:":i:':1":i:';3,ilir:r";;p;ili'^i;;;i:-"i service""a-hi;;;; In Exhibit Ir-B-s ("Tg-i"!:r: proposaLs rand. use) the rezonins would not as fa! as I can tel],acfrreve gf:":h scenario (nor a tow qrorrth;"-Jii=i!. the target developments/infil I scenario. I an puzzled n3s a very far siqhted- why Colonie, which r,ana con!e has not yet cnosen to expand it outside .f "[;;;-;;n", to ah; i;;;;k-irver Flood plain, enconpass additional .,r.ry .rrr-iui-"ii"iipo."unr areas such as, for natural associated i"n r-.-F""J7siiurp eonctand their wetlands "":l!1"anong other .re"=l-, rfri tool discussed such ott., d,evelopnent as. tlie farn ii"a-i"a-"i"n space overlay drstrict, setective ouuic a-gui;ili.;:; rrtes ;;;;.;;;-;.;;i;;;;". and conservatiin easenerits r stroirgiy courd be support and agree very effective tooli ;;r-;;-;;;{ervation-""i"ilying hplenented. Horrrever, if they are as tong .= ttr. zoning ror developnent of a allows certain iyp" aensity there an inherent conflict between il-i"a-"InIi'lnvrronnrentar"iin-ljliiain is protection requirenents overlying it"-""""-1i.e. Freshwater I::1":9: resurations). rhus ;r;;ua;;r-;;i ririt.a srEe 'oay be for deveropnent, the actuat Landonner is createo that a is entitled to get hi!".pi.""ritiJi ,"t.,irr-li="o See pemltted uses and upon the property ""1iyl^u:l=itv-iii"fi-iire zoning ordLnance. App. 14 assesnent-is naiea uoie Response !nat,Iillh:tl potenrial naxinum Jiten trrat not uDon buitdout i"""a-ii-til eonino. II. B. 4 -4-

I an pteased ao ."" a.proposect greenbett 9o. aJonS :L_nl! puttinsIr:p:s rhat r ran'e:::l_"?I]d -13y_to in prace a cunutative rono approach to ooen s'ace ser-t.-.Jiitiu isioe!-on-inaiJiiili'pl.illi= and nore importantli r'ouio rr"tf functioning eco-svsiern a vrabte presently or r.rircii"i! .-ii"Ji"r, rn Novenber or 1e8e r sussest6d . g.r":n!;i;-;; rhis and ;;; iilg.. "p".".proportions than arn enclosing that letter ."a-rii. again in the:- hoDe ;:3iu"":":::L5i:tni= -r ;at_G-qi;;-;;;-"315,,"io.i.!'i"; iiiii" tit - open space""e"-i-;;;:ilI';,;pdiii'iF:T:}""*ilnfi ":.:'"::i";: clraracter, tithout. pubii" iIiir.,."ron properties that's an inpglsipiiitt.-. of ar.L thes€ greenbeLt ;;;;;"", by havins a zone, this. *,oira. .fior-i". llili.r"g be clustered in a manner developnent to tt"t -ri; -;r;;i;""!fi.-",.". of these properties but arso allows for "irii! sreenbelr than rdhat of a far larqe! as l1s_!een O"pi"t"i-ii-irre -"nitcrrs to be individual projects cone up ior 6reated exanpre, based uoon decisions. For agreenent-s reactrea-ii"".ri"* the approval one buirding for- Ashfie.d .l="".iiiJ=7Eoii.Lr. of the at Airrine Deveropnent corp. Drive, a portion-of trre oben-Sace green - Deen creared which i;,gf- a_t"r bert has Sinilarry, .iiigJl-."i5". than is shown on I]:I!.-, the setlands i,i ir,illr.inity are rarger than is deDected-on ttre_uaf far westbury woods wiili .*t.na onto the ani the__forner ina..=triul park These wetlands will have an _Tri:ci[iJ. sites. anount effect ir,-.!.,r!rry limiting the of deveroDable,_property u"ln-Jiil.. puzzrins that rh! a;.;!il"" rt is also cenetary are Ei,il ."a Menorycardens Dot inclucted"n"Iii::ilg": as part of tn"-qr""nbelt desj'rabiritv fron a nunbet-"r-=iJnIio;;;"t;o given the properties in an narntain those oDen_spaeecharaJi";-l;;; exanpre, :H":i:sli:{ifi-*:;r"*H=::";*1,"....the golf SeeApp 14 iii{i:$"i=t"iffnot only ror rhat reason, lut spaceanenrities arso"ror il"1:1":::i:.:1"::::". open Response tnii rr provides to the .rfilt"uatota] ii.o.r. On Page If-Lo it t= =:3a:g that Lrrll reDain sone of the farns in the area undevelobed over the ,r.xt-is-y!.rs. or rand, deveropnent' presgy:g: civen the cost See App. 14 und-iJ"i-oi=.and use protection Responserr.8.5 :ff* thit-i"-in" .rs.n.e-oi-iJ---.' ::"i,:iy.l"i*"P9:s$ilitientives these properties be aleveroped. courd very well

On Page ff-13 the Dro.j ection of. the Ioss of 32t space and 4ot of tire ictive. of the open acres ug.iditiiii iino. over of exisrinq wirdrife n.6iiiii-".-jd;; to. looo sr,gnificant and profound ro be a nerps to nitisate. "a"..="-iirlJtriil"n a greenbetr H?":y:I, i" qreenrert ecologicalLy viable it -"ra"i-i"i"ihe to be a.bove clogs-199d to l.-"rrfi-rgecl as discussed (and in ny letter of LL/.L2/s;rl- or lrrghway inprovenents in-iooition the desiqn so i" going' i",-irr"-jiii.l.n. i..ioi"-!*trenety irrportint they do not isorate,and ,ip greenbelt. (For exar'ple, iy.- parts of the wirAf iie-cio;;il;." 4_rane Inedran highway is urucir:nore. fl.ush oirricuii-iiir,"..o"srng a 2_rane"',= tiSltiil;,Hi.!.#"ii""f;#a^i*:::;l!.ii,:; r:;:li,' -5-

I'solated, ancr ultinately degraded so it continues to function as an ecologically viable wf,ole. habitar, in aadition, on the issue of we suogelt trrat nxrriuii ri_o_l Habitats) is ii-tact leotentiat wildlife u" nap and tool See App. 14 should be iaentiryine-ii.-Ii".=""t1"*.iy-i=!ror $rhich creatrng "="u f:: or opportunities for Response II. D. I or adding on to tie ,i.".nb"f t. 5. Exhibit rf-C-4 anal_table II_C_L-toi-i!"".ng should identify aI1 soils shich have. the potentiif hyalric See App. 14 federatty a definition for regulateat wltfanas-wrri.t iiiir place ResponseII.D.2 restrictions on devel-opment. add.itional 7. The discussion on the airport developnent plans needs hore detair. For_ examprel a lot rr-B-5 tn" irr,pr"iernents discussed in rabre shoulu t":l:9-:-:-tip iJ""ii-rii.ts tne plgposed inprovement!, r.ocati.onor ar.1 llresermpossj.ble as it ii a:.rricutr if nor to evaluate (nor'aoes-i Eits attempt env-rronnental irnpacts.of to) the these imlrovlr"rrt.. I agree with sEatehent that nore site specifi.-iiqR the deterninations analysis and are 9oin9 ti pro1ects as thev._come_up "".J-t"-i. 9ol" to. the specific lpage rf:ifli r nave a alifficult tine i,"i- u!""-!uiiiii"o_".,.n at the i:i:i=ff::.i;.l:,..r"o" are presented seneric ai=c,.r==ior, ;;";;. l.Or""ements as givens ,iiifr-"" !:::i:iarlv-;rillll:ll:":*i.ll"if;li; r:"i.oi:i;;$ rmpactrng i"c"rofii=t i:"=--' addition, "aa"r"::1y::-t" ii"po"t irnprovenents. rn the statenent on page- i_iJ tnut alrport are excluded-rrorn tands rrithin the aiy'Joi=ii"iu.r.on as habitat be reconsidered. with propel shoulal ;;;;;;il;r r,: it as See App. 14 possible the airport f ai.ras' :ee entirer.y specres c""il"i!'rin.q"a for short grass Responses and habitat while stiLi ,""tini andrequirern"ni!' n""..".ry-;;;-"i;;iil: .II.8.14. :ffi.::f ;:t.::j i::iffi. . & App.12 8. Exhibit Ir-D-4 - entirg parceL as _t.l,re, of shaker Run is identif an area of low potentiaL iaUitit.- ied be. justifi.ed trra. oo"= not appear to See Exhibit since sone 60 acres of it wetl.ands ana irre-rana freshwater L L-U-4 or ur"nq-shii.i'c;;":t:-yo:ded openrarm rina ana neae6row=--."ir'J"Iai::":t'":ihcharacrer Developnent corD- property. The lretranal J.ylng between Brvd. and rnter;tate bz sunset rri. onitted and shoutd be considereo .rrl::^1r.-qil; ;iliil'foi"n.rar"ir:.riiiv-i"en_ In addition, the areas habtat as welt. porentia.t r,rheretwo -;;";-;;;; 6otbnies of Blue Lupine Karner slue__hatiiat ;""ra-ii-til"Jii.n.r' edge of the westbury. wooos r.ncorrectely piop!.fy-i!',u..=o rn ny estination classified as i:alltit,oi-oi -t should be upgraded low potential. ?his to med,iun igi^pit"nti.r , 9. Exhibit II-D-3 may be. in- error. For exanple, I find thar.bedr6ck is ress-irran'i'rElt it hard Eo See Exhibit ffil::: beLo$ the surface of r r-c-3 10. we agree with the stringent guidelines regulating developnent on steep sl6pes. fitL and See App. 14 Response IT T 7 -6-

LL. gl^::g:? rr-56, 57 rhere is basicalty no discussion Frotecting the about town,s. inportant .Jq"it". resources. Recharqe areas are the Dtaces to focus on ro-r prote.ti"i-""i.fil;::." other coununities have inappropriate 9;;;-;o-;";'i.otcontro] what they :9":idgl rises iiil',rr" or an Aquifer overray protection""""-."i.,iii.;;-iir;;; 2"n".--i rr""" schenectady countt-r Iiiv-"t s- regurations--i" ti". regard.""ci6=eJ--I civen- continuins vulnerabiritv t" the water itt"-u"ii.ii' ni""i-ina trr" i]tiir District intake. t6 spirii u"a--"in". contanination such as-Albany Airport aleiiing, events seriously . ;i;; T;;" of colonie should consider takinq sigiiti;ini-rt"p.-This to protect See vitally inportant resource. this ADD. l4 vulnernability nay enal up restricting future- growth unless Respon€e sources r.ii.U.r." supptenental water are available for use ,tre" ne"aea. 'T F I 72. Exhibit fr-D-t tvegetative_ Connunities) _ The wetlands lyina sunser ritv6. ana tn" n"iln".i See Exhibit ?:.y:."rn lould not be considerEd any sense al:-"9l9-Oevef opea ilnOs. II.D,I that if "f AIso, I Lrould arque nothinq else another calegory nay be shaker Ridge c;lf "which needed since the course, r.r-.iliiii, is consid.ered be a wildlife habatit or'pot-niiiiii-i.aiu, to vatue, should not isrjlrln;"iil: ;:ii:"* .i ;;;;i;;i il,a. .=-ioi'.;;;;i;,'"' 13. On Page II-36 in the statenent _regarding freshwater setLands :19-.!:it- regutation, it shout.r # iJJ"a that arso regulates activities the state Iaw hrithin tt.-i6o foot aatjacent area See pp. II- we]l. In addition, sone_consideriiion-snoufd as 42, r.rhether or be given as to rr-58, not colonie -ri"ifrY-." regurating smalter than 12 t12_1:I:.:"n""io-.Ji!ii!r vetlands Ioss policy z_53 the fealeral no neE See p. is not-guite a"cur.t"Iiy stated. government has The federal I I- 59. to follow u pro".aui! lJafuatinq projects a. project sponsor :l:I:b{ his to J.n oi.i".t. that. he has avorded the wetlandl., If.he conprererv, the vetlands he nusr rnininize rri!'"." .iJ.Ji"ment".l-.i"id ln those circumstances into then. onrv -nhere tt" into the wetlanis i.s both unavoi.lable, ano,wiii ;;;";';;i.tively"n"ioi"nnent discussion or nititiiioi uinor inpacr Deconell:l-i"^!n. appropriate. ii'r.pra".Denr of wEtlands

9l_l-19:?rr-so, 51 as-wett as rr_Bz we asree or.scussion on the vith rhe conrrols l":d .fol. stringent"Jtlr, ,ut". runnoff and standar.l: po:h ;;;-';;i; arrport doesn,t !J.tn"t froodins at the worsen.but also to i"oi..t the shaker creek, and Al" p"na-"ni water quality of rrater source 1." in!-iot- awx-niver 1J ariniing for colonje- ."a--conol, ire ro require. i. reet the only chanq! ::_l::g"d at. mininum a sir'yeir, 24 See reEentlon standard which. hour storn lre fr.".-r"quiild-ffr"-oaparthent on two recent App. I4 pro]ects that have coDe.before Environmental of Response conservaii;;-h;; s-iia.iii.="r. in considering a Loo year rrhich is II,F.5. retentioi stanAaras. we are unclear or rrhen they lrilr !._put i"io-.irl"i.'--in". lf reer at this point so year standarar ue is a reasonable conpiornrse unless proposes to fi]I in substanti"t-;;";;-;; a project werrands i.n which case -7-

even though the groject.nay. not ultinately b€ approvable, g:M""= of proj ect design- for the aeveioper r,rould have to rncorporate u r09^y:"" siandard in tri!- apptication. AIt these retention basins- sfroula of Ue-ot-'if," c"=ign of rhat ale called lrerrand ;;p;;;-.;;rr.ery of wetrand habitar which have ttre iffect"::l:-"li.h or. acti.iri-is poltutants i.iu..r treatnent basins for and setrling uusin='tJi =!iir.ro"n.- 14. on page If-199 there is discussion abouE protecting and archeological resources. historic r -aror.,ia that we have successful j.n one recent proiects "ouia-ioc been getting arrn i".-p"ii-oi==., one deveroper to i,rorf-i--=ir"Iiiil'"nar i"-."ipJr.tion Hisroric societv tb aesiqn with the shaker compatible wi.rr be far more uith the strat<6r l"ifai"g.-J" App. l4 nodern designs. the area than nore ResponseI1. K.4. 15. Section H tabLe fI_H_2 lists a nunber of short term ''iiti;;-transportationg;;# #o;:":Tiii-::li:.!n..Xl"lffin. to implenenting :i;$;:..:;;::." real . inprovenents-io" in" area and 2 hrhich I v/il] aliscuss than options 1 these proposut= (:19 later. ti i" based upon ii'ti. "a""r, thar should be on intersection._-aT".-a"iJi"i irnp.orr6r.ntJ, rhe focus of sisnalizaat"" particularlly"r".) in terns 1:1.::rli;s-i.r;l""il, *o"" that anyrhino See :*r."",!hgr.. intersection impiovenents-iir"-"""ept wJulo proviae App, T4 rrnmediate benefits_as^we]L^ nore Response rnprovenents as -i"--in" j.on of 16 and. ra ,rot ,.=rrii"itil rr.H.20. environment or sisn_ificara severe impacts to the ;;;;; iij iiil ,,r..".r scenic ana_characterreis il"F+i.iil"3li;n."In!;5:;ffiof thesi Erees particularlv. ::.l.rHiiliffi";.i:," those in-l'y-ii"'pJ"o'iil iro"i-ir"iii Lee pond. the highwav at th;t p"int wi.denino Ene CDTCstudv uDon_which. the nanner depicted on iroutd tfiis GEii-.i.lo*Itr"noation is based conpletirv' cqg199.ttre cnariciei-Ji some care and sensitivity-is .rrut ur.., Therefore needeJ-ioi-tn"-"na.iIi"ncl inprovenents at that intersection. I d9 nade off -iraffic.the desire to close the airport access.road to"ot tnrougtr anythins erse has p.oviaeo'-trr! It nore than See App. 14 arong ;;;;;;^,";r". to allow traffic Response ll:y=r.i"n ALbanyshaker n"io-il ulpu"= rdhatuourd oEnenrrse be an extrenefy. crowa"a-iileiiection II.H.2r. My sussestion'is in front of Ann Ene.arrport*: lg$. . *rai-w"".Iii" arrord to access road continu; nor have Road. tr," niqr,""v tnere ;; ;-;", configure is-iou-; i;r;="iffi.;"t:I.l*f:"loshaker it Jo tirat arr traiiii ii.-io-r"n terminal hroul-dnor.only pasr the nain transportation l"sui;;-"i-!*i!rroiture of scarce rnonies.ir"t .'."i= rir!^ii..l""rd even bisser botrreneck be pronotinq an u"a of traffic congestion in front.of tir" t..rinJr:-;i:",""ii.ii'iriir., an alternatir. ,"rT]l?_""",rrption-ifrat. r.strongry suggest ir..r, elrher a low growth ii|llltln!'j"S"i:*"ry. cruiterfif-iiri' =c.,,.rio as discussed See App. 14 or ther;;s-;;; Response ;:il i*f:il:*:li'",::;:u":",:ii: "iii"rv-iJli- III.B.2. -8-

16. transportation .T:?.r:lg: options 1 and z contain elenents wnLcn maJ(e a Lot of sense and could. be substantial. buil.t withou;-th;--i"rrr." frrro".?r. sl.oo miltio;* r".g., wiaenint Road) but also i., unfortulltefy contain piopo=.ts which are :I:::i:ly_:.stly. an.l uirl bi to [rr.-- envlronDent and the. character "*trern-r|-a-arnasinsof the encouraged iornnunity. I an that another atternativt nai'teen ior.nC-tfr. See App. I4 efficiently move io uor" traffic netween tfre- Nortfrway urrd iiiiort Response which has been identifiecl as u p.ir. liansportation quite a lrhile now. need. for rr.H.22. No cliscussitr, qi*r.ir it."qh, ;;; ili= would atso severety irnpact active "asagiiEuftur;i-iil,i.:.-;";;:" from-the standpoint of-the staie;s-ietiino-iiternati;;. tav this- clearlvv--E--' would be the perferred and approvatie I an troubled bv the overall -analysis of transportation needs and how best to neet then under tirese optrons. rhe-necessity ror the.north_south For exanDle. explained iii"ii"r riirr-r,i"-ii;';;:" adequatel.yin the cmc other than to suggest, "iinei-iii.-6iii'"" report in effeet, trtii-recause ue have thro easr-Lrest arterials- central Avenue-i. anil-lie' need Route Z ,. tfr."eioi. tlro north-south art"riaf= e. tortnway north-south arterial and the and tti; i=-tfr.-"ify r.ay to Deet an unquestj.oned desj.rect level of ,.ri".- shaker Road .pfgsunlng that Al.bany is Lridened betrreen noule-z-ino the Airport, quite frankly have not s:r:l I any- conpelJ.ing justification -;ni;;r-;:-#"for addinq anorher four Lane arteriil in'trrii reporr iaire vicinitt states Iater on the intent is io set crossing of ttre- siige-io;-.;;r, the Mohalrk nivei as--in-"*iJrrr.o' of the arterial. Such a r north_south r]:"s th" $:lu.::I:';:I-""""-UecaDe i:";::j$::-'"tii"j= this location";;;;k-d;::':13 if in fact the i""A. aval,Iable for expensive project to be buiit. De:1"!^:l nore ',, adatition, there---v- L nayus, See App. 14 environnentarry acceptabre ana r"=s for novini p.opi"-u.i"".i e"p"nsiie Response :]ffil:::""= 3.."tos" and Atbany rr.H.17.

As is the case uith.Ioany traffic substantial . inprovenents putting in a new highway- (i.e. an uri""iiir rn one sinply transfer thi rocation nav tririic uoiir"n""i-iron one location to another. rn this case, the uotttenecis-are beconinsRoute 7, Rour; increasinqrv 5, .il-i;t;;;;t!-e2."-ii!-ii?iitt"" See App. 14 assunption I tnust assune is that urtinatery sotnehov fnterstate 87 wilL Response be widened to 4 r;;;; i;-;;; direction the explicit reconrnendation coupred rrith II.H.7, that R;"t;-t wiII be wiaenea tron I to 6 ranes. euire frankiv,- ii-i.-'"iJi"., Route 7 to 6 to re hou wideninq ranes cou:.a ie ;;.;;pii;;; wirhour substanriai rr.H.23. inpact to businesses, honeowners il;l;; highuay wirh envirorulent along that a rix"ry ."In u project. highway, Route s-centrar ""i""y-'isliiJi l sinirar Avenue,,which has r'ore traffic than Route 7 is not to ny knot leqS"'n""nos"a Lanes. .rhe -be;iOir-l.ine to be rdidened to 6 r/idening of I_8? trenendouslv expensive,wourd involv..p"t."ii"iii =iiiiiriiiri..iiiiii" werr.as residintial ." X;:iilg:.:: ".ilr,roiii"oo, .r,a-.6.rJi.iir -9-

The point nade is.that.several rnprovements of the cEfS transportation in option -tf,"-g,i"=tlo.r.b1ei z (e.g, Exit 3 N-s arterial)"q?g*:d 6 tane Route 7 _r"fy irpo.,- ""J assurnDtions See App. 14 that environtnenrar, ri."ir lndzi"*pii=i.ar overcome constraint3 can be Response not onry_for ttrese sfL-i tlc' ruture proje..= iro; ect= but also for tlre tL.H.24 . I.-..?:_Ii-h";i-;;$;iin, n." lroharrkRiver ;:"::il3'"ffi1:i.:-Y'9:ri19r:i I'tricii-";,,:.ar. J"",La'i"Ii",".y 1environmeni;i;'::*":iif;l"ri:::i;":i-i;" are staggerinq it ii iliii=i*-#li";i;:: ti,ut they are only prerude to rar s1;3t31_.g-!!"quiiLy.i".i rhe rmprovenents i;-;"};.ure as transportarion simply react to .ii=ii"i-t..ncls reach the ever receeding in an effort to goal of "i-ii""f"""r service (LOs) D. Some other specific concerns under. that I have are that the tunnel the aj.rport ror option i"iiii".,l totarry u"n"-i==.=y, r.r appears to be whywoutd east_wes! ner./exir 4 ino:::lt:lt, traffic n""J-to il.rffi: il"::i.:x:;",J:;" See App. 14 couLdcone uor" Response Atbany shaker Roaat:1",I?Iti,"iv-'or-oii ilr.. *ouo an.l ger onro shake;Road? ii:::f (via exii-t-v -.ii,i"Itii|..il't"ii:ln":ffi"ilii:;. a) ;il il, II.H.17. L and.2 are conprable^in:":, cist. rr-o-4 ii".il"ntry, on page tI_c_o tne ror option i-if-o=.,""=tutedby See Table fiiiitil.itote sornes5 r r-0. 4. since the short term transportation inprovenents wirl aLready been comDLeteaana- infrJrlijt"il have be considereu r suggest an option 3 scenario "ni:I, or cluster/inf lrould cons.ist":uot.a br ".tir,-.-"..iJJ,g.o,u.n-ttrrlJiii'trul=.iii il1 access road renaining op"n"xii-c to "or,=.ructed, the airport r ri", Albany shakei ':"$.:'ilg"::";::3j*ni=;S.::*, 13-1'1"'.= ;;;;-;ii.'^''port north ro Route *,i. *:.iiiiiliconpleted.i$ii::'I.:T*j This wirr ::l* ;i$t efJ.ihination of t.o.rr9envlronmentalry .ir""_i".. irrl north-south inpacting east_westarter?1, il;"no,rnn.-e=;i"y ;;il;;;:^' Il:r5":::.::y transportation See App. 14 "i;;;;i'li,iirl"tini!niojects on optioi-r-;;-; under.i]B:o":I9n.gso niiri6n_ano arrrw-ior-ti; ;to"to" Response S50 nrillion (assuning ;.ffii:,ff1':l"li: I:i:i"ii" III.B,I. ttrat ttre-sa-lrI illlnr.. transportation hpact mitigation-fee is Ievied nade avairabt.) ;;-oil;"-ini -ti.n=port"ti.on fiscal resources are .:_ iea. io - --. nanagementnass transit-!:, :np:. tecrrniques. systeros L7. In section O an" deveropnent 1:1ll:is-regar,rLng costs and levenues is a decent stari. urrioilirrut.ry of the caveat that l:,"::i::i,till:;::T:l::.l.!fi "'"-i".r"J!i'ii' tn. sovernnenrarcosrs eo.,.',,^",,iiri:::'i.:ii!i!ili.If, .i,.:Tj: ;;-;i";;i; Unless they have bg11 .c"ourrtia.fo"-"ir."n"r.iffi anatysis, it is cruite. possible, else in the costs couLd . that develoDnent outw"igh tir" """n'iii..f',J."!ii.o ""*r"rr,l.J baseat upon current -10-

tax rates and state or See -fecleral aid forDulas. In addition, the foruula eorksheers. need nore App- 14 one can follor./ iE t" rhe "xlii"iir."".r"ir"iii F.esporis e aqequate:*f.yp "!"p_:,!:fore are presente.l withour expJ.anation. TT.O-7 18. On page II-21 f agree with the statenent that actions wi1I have-to future specific ue suuj-ct-io-Ji." =p""r.fic sEeR dereminarions of signifi;;;;-.;; iJ"ritr. environmental impacr statenents- aefenai;;";; iiilil-".op. section page and irpacr. rn 7 7_1 future saOi i.ii"". :.n tle uould caution th1: study area, I the key t" fuiure--"erern:.nations on rndividual_p."j":::_i:^!h; sidi;i;;nce rnpacts. of their environeenral r say this because in sone ;;":= ;;;:'-:l:^::.j::: projects, ror lxanpre optj.ont'r;il;;ffi:T:*":i*.speciric havL a sisniriJant.environnental inpact and such;Ti::":il:::=i="l"toas ex* 4 j":;Iil.;l:il.ii:",:$".:.::;:iH,.:ff.:liji; leasonable aLternatives we Lrould ="" u =arppf"hental. environnental inpact statenent t a"i"g'to be prepared for prolect. The sane cou]d that be true foi-ar-rporE rr0provenents fact there are ones_ proposed if rn environmenrat wtrictr noufa. have significant inglg!; it';;;;;';;;'"". evaruare Ihpacts nor cons "; their throughl.ripori nii"-7;;_';;;."1l i:?:;,ff1ilT":*:,"*t"Ti.i;;l!.n",," See App. 14 the Ers process). r"" iii".pJrtutlon-;;;;E;.= ) projects or airport inprovenent Response irnpi"rrero.nt which rdould srgnrficant imnacts, ror not have III.B.6. sahd creek "xarpie-iiiii"r"g tlre intersection of an.r- ware;vt i"t-s-rrii"i i;I;:.". rebuilding substantial exoansion tfre without ;fiairport-'Mrrr.r, 5;i: these nay not have ;:?'i$:ll:""U: l:lHl jlil . if;iin "";ra tn",,-q,iul'i iv"ir,.' I feel the GErs is an inportant effort and the conhunity to define a critical one for qgr"^i!-!J-s;;;;^i, rhe future. comrents, both critical and positive-hav6 Mv ngf olty ro nake [ee1 y9e construltively consrructively::_::I thi=^;-;;ii;."i"!.ri.n. bur arso ro raise .l: u.ii"-tili-the-cioss Town Ar,'a'y county coronie is.at3]"* an and village/and rnaoe_resarding inportani -";;ercial/residenriarroacs. The deci,sions how th;, G;;i6; -neeas oeverophent is controlled.,f 1rry.i transportation space habitat areas are handleal and open are. protectei to" io.tl-'wlll deternine ruture of this area' rnl the jurisdiction oepirinetii- oi-iiitr"rulentar conservation,s over this i=- ii-ii.i-tr"",.r"n "r"" areas of jurisdiction-i"a ano_w'i-i!i;:;;::: ::i:*lr:il'i;:':l::lry_=""'iii".-i.Jlsl',inins, wateii"ppiv nave il:;"ii"i="ln!"ilili"l;".:*:;f:Ti.t":!;llik:.. to have the rt""'.:.:11.. ;;-r;;;;;"i;iii.y luture of their conmuni_!i.:". ro" determininq ihe probably .r r."oini""-ihe target grou,th scenar:.o represents in your view anO-itre-oiii"r srann'ng Board an important nerters of the ).nterests. r would "orp""*i.""io-iry ao dear lrith competlng 1r"13.g1"t. rn ny estination. egually effective scenarios whichff;"rl,-ii"-Jtilr, can ic.orJA.t" the variety of interests in the connunity and protect jn the"il.r, ctraracter and anenities :-f_? which tit""r""5"-iii.,-h.;;;;;, through.".o*"llty The choices "ii! recreate anartraver. are hard, are high. "r"x." Sincerely, -rt./t U,y'A-" /G..'?-e- HiIIiam t. Clarke RegionaL pernit Administrator Region 4 cc: J. Magee F. FiEId H. Kuhn M. Fitzimmons p, Cooney M. Schwarz 18wc9/ti1 .t. rfff,fsDH "Ii\!..'.

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Tlic DGEIS i rriliu.rLls ttr,rL thr* sLeruly. .rr e,.. r"riI I ej{pe.r"i enErj :"t-tL:,t.rrrt-ial er,vir"r-i),,,s,11-al iijrlri*!rLB. ENlll.J ticl i*res Lh"rt, Llru. Tar-rlcLr.d See Gr lwLir 3r-r.,rrer i,-J v,ri. 1l l,.r!/ry s{l'vdr E .i,nprcL, irr U-ri. ecr,.rluqic"rlly App. r.u.,r'-itivL- ii.L:a. Irr .rdd:iti,rr t(., Lh* i,lrlrJ,a(:t o., Ure var-ious plcnt *nd qrrirrrgl 1i f t f r,,tn:,, wr: b*'l ievc ttra !fiu- str_rdy i> (:,verIy crpLirristic il Res terirrs of llie inrpcruI on air- qltality, qiverr t"lrrr {;rct that cEirtai.fl II. /o.rdw.ry5 in Llru :Lrrr-ly nr,_ad lrctvc. beu*n !.trr.:wlrrrot l-a rirtlet air qr"ralilT liLdftdaf'ds ilrot --priL.l) il irrore tlra{l.t trnH ocrcriji.ul.

A. COI.'1I,1EI-ITSON ENV I RONI.IENTALSECT I ON

1 . L,F.DATETFIE NETLANDE f"lAF.FOR THE TOI^,NOF COLONI F

Tlre ;lr-rdy sh,:r-r1di.rir:1r-r,:JL. c\ gurvey of pr'uper Lies in the stucly .rrr_. Lu du'Lerrr,i.rru' i{ l^1-.1-I irrrJr; erLigt ir thib are.r. Giverr the Iuw $r!rter- Li\irl.* '5r'e.tr iir t-!ri5 .itrd cr r-Jrcii l_u,r utrderr-:iL"rrrdi|rg r..rf wetlar-rtJ; a LJ l-lreir pP.Ir-58'' ithg.rotL.rrrc.e Lo ,--[r,:jyriLldrrr" tf'E tl',: Tr.rwrr's o{fiti.rl t,Jetl;rrrcl-- ['|,.rr..rslrould ti e, rr-59. . .. t-rpnr.J.:LLu irrclr-ttlr' .trry aJLJ.il-iuri;iI a|.erdli uurr:iiLl,jr *.J Lo Lre t,{:L1.,rr,,'|>wiLlrirr Lf's 1'LLrily ",r'e;.

?. I I4FACT OhI I{UNIC I F'AL SDL-ID !.]ASTE S'/STEHS

0ne' r,.,f L.fri+f or-erriorii prrbrt.nrl {;icirrg rrrr.rnicipdlitieE is hr;rw Lu Lrucrl wi Lfr sr.rl ir.l w,rste. Ther ,rbiliLy to rldt,cr,t1E{rirrriripal >r"rli LJ L.icisLe !:i critir:.rI LLr .r citrlrrrr'.r.itilj'!i *LU.eflric r,;ru*l_lr, eu*lity urf lif r:, nrrrl 'irvir ur,',Etrl.' G-iv..r' Lt',: i,rtl.,r Lnrr{.i o{ Ll';. it s.r., iL, i:i >erpr-i*i.r,$ tlr.rL l-tt* DGEIiii iJnly sL(pdr{iLi..l y "irldrEis*,; tfrir:; .irei1. The DGEIS indii,rIs.:, l-lroL appr uAi,r.tLul y :1ri3O torrv trf sel,i..l wqgLrl wjll b*.l ,.1elrr:raLer_i ariirurrlly by Llre v!,rd'r :or:i'-1, |,Jr" f inrl L.lri'- r,::;L.irrr;rLelo br: e;

0r'r-r,:Ltrsr poj.rrL Lll.rL wlr beIiu,vr.' Lo be c,ri [.ir._dt i> rreerl to c{:rqrd.ii,dL.L-jl.lrri llrr: 0FIll wi Llr Llir,- $ot i.d l.l.rc,le lldi Iaqt.]irrbill rt Fl"rrr Le:irrr_; '"1r.:v"rl rr1.rt-Jt.r7 t-tru Tuw| i,f ouI.,r rie sJ'(,1..i'-li-l,.,f ., F l,rr,rrirr4 Llrir:, i,l Llr.,r(.11r both plarrs ctrver Lfre rarne pl;rnnirrq per-iu(J, ttrer plarrs havt:. not g**r., See App' Iiriker-l Lugcttir:r i.i eiLttEr- d'.J{L{n*nl. is Lr rrly glirrq o be a pldr''t' jr0 ResPonse Lool . II.M.I.

;. FEFEREIIC€ TO LUT4AC AND WATERCCJURsELEGISLATION

We be1 ieve ttr,i{t l'lEi''Lion o+ ,,rr1yL|JHAC rFcorhtftrrldatiurr irr thi: GEIg wlrieli ha; rrr)t bL:en dd'rpted by Coloitie'> Towrr Br:rard c(!i dl-r €rrvirorr tBrtt.rl 5af e'.Jlrar'd is irrappropri,rtr.r grrd rtri-ilE,!Ldiltg, There+ore, we respect{ul l y s,qbrri t that ar'ry 5Lrl:h ref L-|-e ce be r-trrnoved .rt)rj not b€ irrclr-Lrjc"d irr tlrc

In .rrlrliLiurt, eelj[Je] ierve LlraL iL i: *qu..lly i dppr-epr"idte Lo s..grurx LtrirL borlies of wat*r- (i,e. strL.aniE, EtE.) wi Lhir, the study ..irea |{ill rrul- be. JisLlu-bed rJue t..r the r eueriLly pdcsE',J Ul"(Lerr:uur'eri LeqislaLion, AtLf'suglr tfris pic.ci- crf leqialatiurr is,r sigiri.{icdnL sitep forward, it {JLrE. nd,L g(r,rrdrrteL, Ltr.rL bL]dj.es o.f |aakEr' r^ri Lhin the study area wi I I be i:r'L:itected. As a flral.ter c,f {,:.icL, the Town of Cololrie has L.stdbl i:i!rtlo .i ',:orrxnj.Lt*!r l.o hear' dnd i:;:;Lrn vul j,ances lo Llris legisl;Lion. To thc tr,=st of o'Jr hr'owleLlga thsi ro flrtil_L!.e fras yet Lo deny .a request 4or. a v"rr-icr'r{s pe. n'i LLlr'g r-Dr!iLruction ni. Llritr 1Ot)" of a br.;dy d+ $rdter. See Tlie/ef or'e, the any f iif criritcc t,hat ttr; trer-H exisLance c,f thiE tq leqisl

tII, BOCI OECOIII]T4IC IHFACTS

Ttre DGEIS pL,i 'rts out tfr".rt the 'Jl:ltnc,rriic i rnpacts o.f the Tdl g!.tc.d See GrowLli scerrerio ,lr-e nrirrirtral. f t t,Ec.oirrrenJ:5tftdt thtr r'iece::ary roduv{6ry App. 14 . i rttprovcrrtrr L s t,e f inci'r':cd by imp.rcL fF.,tj5, Tlie. DGETg gu'--j ur, Lu ule.rr ly idt rrti{y Llrr: f ir:ic"rI i'Irpd!:L uf Ltra.s* {L-!--s un developer-s. HQwever", t.tre Response DGEIS {sri l:' Lr"r ir.ltrlrLif y tlrr: irrpact r,,rr La;r r'.rLes ({^i'ELl'tjr tr,-r;itive r;r rr.0.7 r'Eg.ri;ivi.) for the 'rr|-rfticip.rlitir:l irrvcilved. This type o{ ;,rralysis slror-rld bd .learly rLatr-,d, NilI rn,-rnicipa}i !:ies drtd ts;r p.r7r,:r.sb r_. Lu LlrL- t'iII u.f f rrt-ur "rL1u tJi(y "" ir,{r .rsl"r L.r!-Lurr: I L:lr.rir s aniJ irnpr irr.e:l,tltrIl.? A. C0i1t1et{Ts oi.J50c r oEcnNor4Ic$ sEcTr 0N

Tlr," DGEIS sl-,c.rr-t I ,l itrclr-rdE €i c{r-talysis rf Llre irnpacL un Lax r-orLe.-. Al Llrr.:ru,1lr'-i.:ve1 oplt* L l-r,rs ..rL Lirrrcl; beerr vi.,rwe,l db q! rBvt3f rut. pr.oJLlL:irrU See itrLilcholr|i!r,, lr:carl itie's dr L- quisl.:ly f indir,q ouL l-li;rt it rrriqht nl:)t rilw.rys App. 14 l-r€ l-l'r,* p.rr,.ree.r t-lr-rt Llr::y Llre.ruglr,. W.i.tlr dev;rI,rp tefrt trlJrnlls d(ddiLiu .il Response derlrerlrd.-"{or ,.;risLirrq Fer vi.i:es artd irtlw e r-.irvj,i-c:j. The DGEIIj Jid ;rr, rr.o.7. ,gitctc]lerrt- jr-ili ,:f irJr.rrLi{yirig .rrrr"1 c1u:.ir-Iy -pellirrq or-rL Llrtj Llru, ir''p.,icl- f r,-c.$ 1-l'.,L cJc,vEl {.r!:JEr* rrriglrl trave l-r-r 1.r.,y. I[ :,l.r"ir-rld do Elfr eqlrdlLy gi:,t,,1 j Lri-r ur"rL th,-.: L*,1 t-,-r:.L: ,,::,ir-lrrr!s "rl. 1rr..rir,L.Ltr13 L..r llrr.. r ui Llie irvr,.r1 v,":rl nrLlli ,::.i u..rl i [..i*,r..

i V. TF{AFFI C

Tl,c: C.DtiiS r,.,rv,=,"1sf .,, (rnui iL. ,:'-i L, t,r,rl,,ri.,,r i.,i,r-riri!!-:r ir, l.,.i:-ii.-.. In soine areas of the study, tra{{ic is projected to increase by as ,nLtcfr as .1OO2. Giverr that somr. of tlre f-oads irr th* study are.r are currentl y operatinq at an E arrd F Level during peak periods, the accurracy o{ trre atl;rly5is, in this area is t-.xtremenly irnportant, We are tro bled by wl'rat appearE to brl arr asisumpti on that that tr.;r{{ i c r^liI I si rnpl y qD .rw.ry See onc rii h redches cer-Lain poinLs j.n th€. stLrdy are.r. What if notoiiEts decide rrot t|f tal.:e the Northway and dewcide to usts other Arterials? Wh.rL ther? Wi 11 ttre curerit roadways f or wlrich Llr* sl-lrr"Jy,Ju:es rrL:t TT Tt I rLacofllrrEridexp"{ndit)q be able to handle tlre Lr--ffic?

1. RE-EXANINE PROJECTIONS FOF TI.IE EASTERN FART OF ALEANY SHAlrlER ROAD BETWEEN WOLF ROAD AND UERTHAN LAiIE

Thr. DEEIS i'),Ji.i.rLe:t th.t Altrany Shd!:er- (betweerr R'dil t^,olf RDaU .{nd See l'Jrir-tn-.rrLare) will r:nly see a relatively sarall incrrease irr Lrilf f ir ^,': App. 14 Eo,lpared Eo tfre otlrer .rrtcrials i.r] l-hE rit,ucly ared. HlJwever, the second Response larqEEt project pla.'ed i.; wittrin tfris dr'..a (And"'rs'rr FIJD). 6iven tfrE rT H ') utrr-tr:rrL lpvel i.rf srgr-vice trrr this segrr'rerit of *lb,iny Shal,:er Road, the DGEI6 co rlr-rsicrns oppear tc, tje inconsistent with the facts.

:. DEVELOF A MORE 0oN9ISTENT ANALYSIS nF TFAFFIi !:}TiDJFeTIOrue .,iir Tra+tj.c im;r"rut:, r":urld inclnd* t.lr': 1:rolr-,nti;tl inipact uf cclr,tirrued Lr*"elli,rr3 p.rLl*r rrts o{ trotor-i=;t: *ho sirirpl y will not Lravel n.liw rorrr.*s App. L4^ : or ExpandEd r-oadway:l. Wf,ere will these motorists end up? Ulhat are tl,c Response rnost loqii-dl ruutes LlraL the!r"r ,not-orisLs wi ll Lrsc? II. H. 1 .,, J. IT.IFACTON AIR TIUALITY '

Ar prevL.usl y ritl:'Lionsd, [h€ DOEIS inlliuates th.lit {ae.will see, .{rr i'np.1ct on air qru"1ity Nitlrin Lhe l5tLrdy ,arEin. gpeuif icatly. car-borr See rtturtu;tiLlr. level s 'r .r L!^pL,(l-eJ f ,l inirer;rse r-eg.irtJlc,ss o{ irrtpi.o"*rnerilr Lr,.: App. r4 tht-' sturJv ar-ea- Tl''e FGEIs .'ihoL(ld Elearly poi.rrl out potr:nIi.al i*pi\cls Resoonse un Lhrr heal Llr o{ *ur:fr ir'divid,r.iI5 .r'i yourrg ,:h.i1.Jr€n and s*n:i.or-s. Thr:s*r TT T ? pcrt:rulations terrd Lo be hiqhly ,l{.fected by high levels o{ r:.rr-bsrr rLrns;{ide d.nd tenJ Lo be nrort3 },rt]r'ttj L.] re-jpir-t,ory ,rilrrrerrt; arrLj t:']r'rJ.iti LJr|s.

v. CD DLL'5I AN

Irr clot.i.r,q;. I r.r=,it lu l-lr,:ullr yuu lrr helfi;rlf -f Cl^,OtJ{or. Llrel j.s tr[:rpoftLinr Ly to coirrrrrer,L{Jrr Lli very irrrpor-i:.ir-rtitrJ(ul.lejiit. shr-ru]rJ vi.r,-r lidvL: e\rly que$l:i.ii'r)- ur r *quir e rr..rr'i f ic"rtiurr r.rf Llrq. p.,if,L- -=rJd|ess*.-, r,l i-lri: 1et-Lr--r, pl r:,isr.r f sql. f r t'te to ,:Dn1-crct rre, r.:rr 48?-6:71. o.,$,:ffi,,, \11lclrair CLrlL)rt i !-, Wor-h ort Wa:lte P MosrERT GAFY 312 WoLF Ro^o L^IHAM.NEwYORX EowARo H WRGFT l2llo PHofl€(5lA) 7a3- 275O

MEMORANDUM

TO: Mary Burke, Senior planner Engineering & planning Service Dept.

FROM: Gary P. Mostert. Superintendent Latham Water Di-strict ?.v"' DATE: October 15, 1990

SUBJECT: AIRPORT GEIS

The Latham Water District has reviewed the DGEIS for the Airport area and have only a few commenls.

r. Section II, page 22 - paragraph 2: 474r above mean sea leveL should be 500'1, See p.II-26 2. secti.on rr, page 92 - Exhibit No. rr-c-4 see Exhibit rr-c-4 a. Add Mohar,rk View Well Complex and WeII #9 to tne exhj.bit. b' Paragraph 1: 3) Mohawk vi.ew wer-r compr-ex - 4 MGD shourd see - rr-qq be 5 MGD. c. Paragraph 3: Is incorrect - There are four well pumping statlons - Iocated in-the study area. A11-T6ur curieniiy' See produce a totaf of 2.j5 MGD, not 5 MGD. lielI *9 on Buhrrnaster Road should be included. Also should be noted that WelI #1 and welt r h. h^^^ #2 will be See p.II-100 Any questions, p. contact Gary Mostert at Latham Water. 3. Section If, page 93 - paragraph 2: The second storage tank Located 600r to the south should by north. Jee p. -rr- IU0

If you have any guestions. please do not hesitate to calI. GPM:bh cc: Larry Call-ander, Clough, Harbour I Associates {s October L9, 1990

Ms. Mary Burke To$rn of Colonie Engineering & planning 272 MaxweII Road Lathan, Ny 12110

Dear Ms. Burke:

I have several conrnents regarding the Draft Generic Environmental- Impact Statement.

My nain picotte concern is that the Conpanies r.rere not contacted regarding.the study. we have. severar pit"er= lrj.thin the ;i;;t-- area and it does not appear that they ave been rncLuded as future projects. rn aadition. u= orrl if.r" areas Largest developers, we lrould have a sense of trends"i in tne ieii-estate business that would be helpful ,nen co"=iJ"rl.ng qrowth. I an concerned as to how the projected anount of new space cornnercj.aL See was deternined to be 7 nillj.on sguare feet. What anount-ijnai- of App. 14 square footage exists today compared with the projectj.o"=i h?Fpens if_only Response several niition- square reei is deieloped? now t{i]l that. inpact these projectionj? II.B.1 In general, I feeL that the Town, village and County are to be See conmended for their efforts, Hotrever. i do not feel that this App. 14 process is an]rvhere near conpletion. Response What is tr.D.o. the next step? How are these plans going to be inpletnented? -wni6n who wiit oversee and detlrrnine miiiqating See App. L4 neasures will be utilized? Response The Town II.B.8.& of Colonie has very successful in handling the growth that _been II.B.10 has occurred over th! last d.ecade. rn order to the success, this document n..J"-"i."fur sciuiiny See App. I4 howS?ltll": it is as to used. The fear is that it lviLl result in -".n lornpf." Response that. no growrh wilt- take pra-- in-tn" area. be::"lull"" a disappollting rnis iuorriA II.B.7. failure to the d-evelopmentinalustry as welf is the nunicipal ities. PICOTTE COHPANIES 120Woshirrgton Ave., PO. tl-rx 219, AlLrany; Ny 122}l-0219 (5lS)q65-4747 l,!s. l{ary Burke October 19, 1990

If the report is to be accepted it should be done only with strong statement and plan as to how it wiII be utilized.

I appreciate the opportunity to coln|nent. sincerely,

PICgSTE COr,tPtttrES-, --X/ d /2.- c-,,1/L-ttz--,t ( \ \y/ .r "atu-.i /./----\ Ndncy E. carey U Director of Developnent

NEc/nj b J8192

rECI'YED tf,f 19U0

'ffirtn{tr !-,! iul; 't'owN oI cot_oNIE ZT2ItAXWELLROAD

I,AT}IAM, NE\V YORK I2I I O

ENGII,]IlLRINGt. PI,ANNINCsT.RvIc[S DEPARTMENT TElrpllONE aE2.0!.t8 lD) IEIEIENfI,--- T,il " D ttc'I (rn |J\ rrEc06 1990 Decernber 5, 19 90

It0lt';l.l HARB0UR& ASS0CIAIIS

I'1r, Peter Convray C1ou9h, Harbour & Assoc, 3l'iinners Circle P. O. Box 5269 AIbany, NY L220 5

RE: Airport Area G.E.I.S

Dear Mr Conway:

In fol low-uF to our discussion on December 4, LggO, this is to conf i rrn a request for rev ision of the content of the Draft c.E.I.S. h,ith respect to traffic impact. Specifically, the current draft does not appear to address the Northwav-Exit 6 interchange vlith Tro:l- Scherectady noad. As this interseciion is rlnc .1f rho nr i-rrv quceSSrn, p! r,,,u!r potnts to the study area, analysis of the inrpacts of projected development and the need for lnitigation is critical . t^te request that this analysis be cornpleted and a See riumnrarybe prov idecl to us for rev ievr as soon as possible. App, 14 Response Should you I)ave any questions, please contacr us TT H ]R

Verl' truly YOUr5, ,/) i)'. 1,,,'\ l(ev in DeLaughter I Senior Planner

I( D,/a s1l

Paul Cooney, County of A.Lbany Ilerbert Xuhn, ViIlage of Colonie

i\r Equol Op2ortnntty Enployer SHAXER NIDGE . VLY ROAD NEICHBOBIIOODASSOCIATION

i!----' October I9, 199U + RECEillI0 in STIglm ., Ms. Mary Burke r:^ Senior Planner rffiL. FJrdl {.- Torrn of Col oni e Engineering & Planning Serl'rces Dept. 2?2 Maxwell Road LaLhan NY 12110

Re: Connents on Airport Area Draft cEIS Dear Ms, Burke:

In Iieu of subniLtinq the several hundred pages of connents and suggestions we have anassed i.n regard to the Airport Area Draft Generic Environnental- Inpact Statenent, we have opted insteed to refer you to the connents we nade at the Publ.ic Hearing of October 2 (encl.osed), end to express our support of the comments transnitted to you this week by our umbrel-La association. the Colonie Coalition of Homeowners Associations,

After much serious study of the GEIS, we have concluded that it is not trult- our responsibility to dot every "i" and cross every "t" in the draft docunent, lie are also conpelled t.o Dention, wi.th sone chagrin, that after the publi.c hearing and painstaking subnission of written comments fron nany sources on the draft scoping docunent for this GEIS. the final scopj.ng document reflected on]y one niniscule change fron Lhe original.

We fee-I it is our responsibi-lity, however, as residents of CoJ-onie, to stale generalfl- our expectations of the GEIS and of the Town Planning Board, as Lead Agenc]', in overseeing the conpletion of the final docunent and its Findi.ngs Statenent.

We offer the following general synthesis of our views on this draft document and what it represents to usi our future. we thi.nk that the peop]-e of this area have nade it sufficientl,y clear to the elected and appointed officials r.'ho are sponsoring this GEIS that whiLe they expect their public officials to do al.l in their power to encourage econonic soundness here in CoLonie. they a.lso expect those officials to guard and protect what is left of our natura.l environnent, to act to maintain Lhose qualities of our Town whi.ch drew us here in the first p.Lace and nhich, thus far, have .kept us here, and to always act with an awareness of this goaL: a suitable and tranqui.l bal.ance of :: residenLj,al . agrrcul-tural , comuercial,, recreatron.I , B1' ".orro,ri]. 'l envrronDenLal , and even spiri:tual harnont.. SC'l : - oif;.r Overseeing the successful conpletion of this Ds"l,;x,r,n GEIS nay be th'$2 '' gravest responsibility and greatest opportunj.tl' the Town plantri.ng Board has ever enbraced. tre Iook Lo the Town planning Board b6i|-",- craft this docuDent with more wisdon and foresight than it has ever been asked to exercise before, Yes. h.e expect it, he all have sone apprehension about holi the wave of recession washing over our country wiI-l inevitablv affect this area. l{e are concerned about our economic future as nuch as, mavbe lore than, the respective p.lanning boards are. We live here, we riork here, and I.-e attend schoo.l here. This is our hone,

Wj.t,h these thoughts in nind, we feel that I.'e must, noli ask Lhe Town Planning Board to re-eva.l-uate precisell' its notivation for conpiling this GEIS. tre. quite naturallt-, inj.tialll- Lhought its purpose was to preserve our quality of lj.fe in the fa,ce of seeningly rapaclous ove r-deve I opDenL , It has becone increasing_Ly apparenL, fron Lhe docunent itself and fron certain recent public statenenls, that the purpose ot' the sponsoring nunicipalities nat not quite natch our hopes, lihatever Lhe initial rnotivation to coLlaborate on this docunent r.,as, an overridtng notivation seems to ha1'e energed which is nost di.sturbing to us, "How to dea,I tiith developnent pressures." we submit, is not synonynous Hith "How to pror.ide a legal, tool to squeeze noney out of developers so that nider roads nay be built to acconnodaLe yet nore deve.lopment,'

Asking nrong questions rnvariabLy produces idrong anslrers. Instead of asking, "How FiI.l we pay for the road construction the "TargeL Growth" deve-Lopnent scenario in the drat't GEIS sat's wi.i.I be necessarl'?" perhaps the ri.ght question shouLd be, "Is this deveLopment scenario the one tre want for Co-Lonie?"

Instead of askinB. "Which roads should we -ri1clenand where shall we build neli ones?" perhaps tbe right questron is, "Horr can better land use nanagemenL plannrng and bui-Iding and zonrng regu-Lations guide developnent Ln a hea-Ith\- and beneficial uanner for al-I those who live in or use the AirporL area?" we do not be.l.j-eve that ,l-l-l devel-opers are created evif . l{e are not the eneni-. We seek and support a healthy economy and healthy growth in Co]onie. Yet, neither do we believe that every proposed deve].opnent project deserves appror-al-, sinply because it is proposed, as is inplied in the draft GEIS ill-naned Target Growth scenario, he do not believe that the proposed "green bel-t", proJected on the naps Iike a rJiIted, shriveLed, green string-bean, represents a sign of healthl- groh-th.

What the GEIS s,hould ref .Iect, we belj.eve, is a birds-eye view of hoii lie want the Airport Area to look fifteen years from now, and beyond. The Town Board, as Lead Agenct, has the ultinate respons j.bj.Iit-v, we think, to look at the area, to look at where t{e are headi.ng, to plot a "best of aII possible worlds" scenario, and to find out how to achieve it, Our expectati.ons of the GEfS h'ere that a brave new plan would energe, and our expectations of the Board were that the-Y, f inall.y, cou-Id proud-ty stand up and sal', "Yes: This j.s the wa1' j.t shou_ld be! And we'11 do it:"

Instead, we fear the current prevarling attitude is, "Mr- God, hor. wi.l} we cope?" Cannot we residents expect just a fittle nore f rorn our public pl,anners? Cannot r1'e expect t.he inagj.nation, foresight and courage it takes to set responsible goals -- and Lhen go after thern ?

we suggest that the Town Planning goard i.s expending disportionate amounts of tine and energr on tr]'ing to determrne who wi-t] pal- for highway expansion. We cautlon you agaj.nst this at the cost of losing sight of a nore i.nportanL task. It was stated i{el-L in the fine 1,9813Traff ic..lssess/rent for the AfbanJ- CountJ- Airport Area (Draft Sunmar!' Reporxl prepared by the Capital District Transport'ation Comrnittee:

"In tien' of these findJ.ngs, )oca) p)anning efforts shoufd be directed at advancing fand use nanaqenent guidelines tor the stud:. area to ensu.e thax the L!.pe and extent of expecxed future development does not resuLt in future peak lrour traffic -leve-ls which exceed standards estabJ,ished undet thas study ( and CDTC's Wolf Foad area stud!', ) " tp.{11

A buifd-spend-panic cycle has been establ.ished j.n Co.lonie srhich lre believe nust be dealt with and broken. and a new planning See philosophy established in its place. 81- neans of this cElS and App. I4 its Fi.nd j,ngs Statemenl, we rna.'-nori have a chance to do this. Response There nay never be another chance, Please don't fail us. II.B.7. S ince re -ty l i ': ,- 4 L:j" -/'Lr,"1,,- Cecilia M, Ghandhi President SIIAKER RIDGE - VLY ROAD NEiGHBORHOODASSOCIATION

7 Linda Lane Schenectady, NY 12309 (518 ) 869-06 71

C: Peter PIatt Enc

l, -^ .\wi' 't t\' -v (Publ.ic llearing; Alrport Area DGEIS: October 2, 199O)

MY NAME IS CECILIA GHANDHI AND I AM I{ITH THE SHAKER RIDGE - VLY ROAD NEIGHBORHOODASSOCIATION. ALL THE IIEMBERS OF THE ASSOCIATION RESIDE WITHIN THE AIRPORT GEIS AREA, AND WE LIVE NOT VER\' FAR FROM THg AIRPORT.

I IIISH TO THAN}, TIIE TOWN, VILLAGE AND COUIiTY FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO COI'IMENTON THE AIRPORT AREA DRAFT GEIS. MT REMARKS?ONIGHT I./ILL BE BRIEF, SINCE WE WILL BE SUBMITTING MORE COI'IPLE?EWRITTEN COMMENTSSHORTL\.

I WOULD LIKE TO EMPHASIZE THAT WE RECOGNIZE THf] DANCERSOF ECONOM,TCSTAGNAT-ION. $E RECOGNIZL THAT TH1S AREA WILL BE SUtsJECT 1O !'URTHER DEVELOPMENT, BUT WE ARE ALSO CRITICAL OF THE IiIND OF' RUNAWAYDEVELOPMENI' WE HAVE SEEN IN COLONIE DURING THIi LAST 10 YEARS OR SO. hE ARE I\ !'ULL SUPPORT OI' THIS GEIS EFFORT TO IIATIOIALLI DEFlNtr Ttlli POSSIBLE I{AYS IN liHlCH THAT GROhTH hILL Ofr Ii-[LL J\OT OCCUR. IN FACT. TItl5 ASSOCIATIoi\ oF HoMEowNERs SUPPORTEIJ THAT EFFOIiI' EVEN BEFORE ACREEMENT WAS REACHEI] To DRAFT 1'1iI.S GFll S .

l lr RICENT t\;EEliS, I HAVE HEARD MAN\ DENEGRATING REI,IARKSAtsOUT THIS DRAFT PLANNING DOCUHENT. HOWEVER, T BELIEVE THAT MAN\ Of THOSIi COMMENTSAR!] UNJUSTIFIED. THE REASON FOR THIS BELIEF IS SIYPLI' A IIATTEfI OF PERSPECTIVE, IF WE \'IEI4 THIS DOCUMENTFOR tvHAT IT IS, I THINK wE ALL BECOMEA BIT M(]RE CHARITABLE. IT IS A DITAFT GENER1C ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT. IT IS NO1' TIiE I'INAL DOCUMENT. AS A DRAFT, IT HAS MERIT. IT IS INTERESTING AND EDUCATIONAL -- AN'D WE RECOGNIZL THAT ITS FLAWS AND OMISSIONS HA\,E YET TO BE WORKEDOUT, THE PURPOSE OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTPERIOD IS TO HELP ENSURE THAT THE\ AI.'!.

I4ITH THAT THOUGHT IN MIND. I WOULDLIKE TO SU|IMARIZE SO|IE O! OUR CONCLUSlO\S TO DATE.

I. WE WHOLEHEARTEDLYAGREE WITH THE CONCLUSToNTHAT THE H1GH see GROI{THSCENARIO IS UNACCEPTABL]T. A DEVELOPMENTPROJECTION lrHrCH Aoo. 14 WOULDNECESSITATE A IO-LANE ROUTE ? AND A lti-LANE ALBANY SHAKER nesponse ROAIJ, FoR EXAMPLE, DESERVES TO BE REJECTETi. LI.B.1

2, lOR VAITIOUS REASONS, IlE FIND THE TARGEI' GROWTHSCENARIO EQUALLI UNACCEFTABLE. THE THREAT TO PREHISTORIC AND HISTORIC SITES, THE FRESHWATERWETLANDS, THE WATERSHED, TRAFFIC. AND AIR DCE AND NoIsE QUALITY wHIcH IT PRESENTS cAN NEVER BE SUFFICIENTL\ App. 14 MI1'IGA?ED. WE ARE NOT CONVINCED OF THE SOCIAL AND ECONOMICNEED RESPONSE FOR THE HUGE AMOUNT OF RESIDENT1AL AND COMMERCIALDEVELOPMENT II.B.I PRESENTED IN THE TARGET GROWTHSCENARIO. IT ALSO SEEYS SOMEWHAT IMPR.ACTICAL TO r-S THAI' So MUCH BUILDING CAN ACTUALL! BE ACCOIIPLISHED 1}' THE SHORT SP.ICE OF 15 YEARS: ARE THERE THAT MANT CONSTRUCTIONh'ORKERS IN THIS .4REA? ARE THERE ENOUGH tsUILDING SEASOT'*S.tN THE YL:AR TO ACCOII|IODATEACTUALIZATION I

UE STRONGL\ REQUEST TH.{T A MORE REASONABLE LOW-GROI,ITH SCLNARIU BE DOCUMENTED,CONSIDERED, AND ADVOCATEDIN THE GEIS.'-"ti 't?' tt : u$'*ot-.i 9f'"c*ritsr 1 d*iiit"e. 3. NEITHER OF THE 2 OPTIONS PRESENTED FOR THE PROPOSED NON,TH- SOUTH ARTERIAL ARE PABTICULARLY ATTRACTIVE OR ECONOMICAL. $E WOULD LIKE TO SEE SEVERAL !..IOREOPTIONS INCLUDED.

4, THE SECTIONS REGARDINCAIR AND NOISE QUALITY DESEF,VEIIORE See RELYING ELABORATION. ON HYPOTHETICAL FUTURE AIR AND NOISE App. I4 STUDTES ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS SEEI'TSUNREALISTIC. QUALI?T IT IS Response OBVIOUS ?HA? MOST OF THE TARGET GROWTH SCENARIO PROPOSED PROJECTS WILL NEVER BE SUBJECTS OF ENVIRONMENTALIMPACT STATEHENTS, II.I.1 & '' EVEN ON A SUPPLEMENTAL" BAS1S, II.J.8.

WE, THEREFORE, REQUEST THAT A LEVEL 2 AND/OR LEVEL 3 See App. 14 ANALYSIS OF AIR QUALITT BE INCLUDED IN TI{IS GEIS. Response II . I. 1

t\IE ALSO REQUEST THAT PROJECTIONS BE t'tADE ON THE NOISE IMPACTS WHICH WILL RESULT FROII INCREASED TRAFFIC AND PROJECTED DEVELOPMENT. LI!4ITING THE CONSIDERATION OF NOISE TO THAT EMANATING FROY INCEEASED AIITCRAFT OPERATIONS FROM THE ALBANY COUNTY AIRPORT IS, WE FEEL, INADEQUATE. WHILE RECOGNIZING THAT OUR PREVIOUS REQUEST TO ACTUALLY MONITOR AIRPORT NOISE LEVELS FOR THIS STUDY WAS DULY IGNORED, WE MAKE THAT REQUEST AGAIN, ALSO GIVEN SHORT SHRIFT IN THE DRAFT GEIS WAS THE PRESENCEOF' NIGH?TIME ENGINE M.{INTENANCENOISE. THE GEIS SIMPLY STATES: ''ALBANY COUNTY AIRPORT HAS ESTABLISHED A POLICY WHICH PROHIBI?S NIGHT TII'IE ENGINE RUN UPS AT THE AIRPORT.'' T}IE FACT IS THAI' THE POLICY PROHIBITING RUNUPS BETT{.EENMIDNIGHT AND 6 A.M, WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1985, AND HAS NEVER BEEN ENFORCEDOR ENFORCEABLE. See pp. II- 182 THE NOISE KEEPS GETTING WORSE, AND RESIDENTS OF THE AREA ARE through II- 186; INCREASINGLY RESENTING 1T. WE H.{D HOPED THIS DRAFT GEIS WOULD HAVE PRODUCED DATA ON THIS FROM SOME SOR? OF MONITORINC PROGRAM; OBVIOUSLY, IT DIDN'T. lIE AGAIN REQUESTTHAT THIS TYPE OF NOISE FROM THE AIRPORT BE MONITOREDAND THE RESULTING DATA BE INCLUDEI) ]N THIS GEIS.

5. THIS DRAF? GEIS RECOMMENDSDEVELOPMENT OF A DETAILEI) INTERMUNICIPAL AGREEIfETiTAMONG COUNTT, TOWN AND VILLAGE FOR COORDINATION OF HIGHWA\' IMPROVEMENTSAND TRANSFER OT FUNDS FROM See App. 14 THE COLLECTION OF DEVELOPMENTMITIGATION COSTS RELATED TO Response TRAFFIC, WATER AND RECREATION IMPROVEI.IENTS. WE STRONGLYSUPPORT rr.tt. ru. THIS RECOMMENDATIO]\,AND WOULD GO SO FAR AS TO SAT THAT NO FUTURE DI'VELOPMENT IN THIS AREA SHOULD TAKE PLACE WITHOUT SUCH FIRM INTERMUNICIPAL COMMITMENT.

IF ANT TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTSARE TO BE SUCCESSFULLY IMPLEMENTED, STRONG AGREEMENTS I'IUST ALSO BE CONSIDERED NOT ONLI See AMONG THE MUNICIPALITIES INVOLVED IN THIS GEIS PROCESS, BUT ALSO App. 14 WITH SURROUNDING WHILE IIUNICIPALITIES. THIS IS PROBABLYOUTSIDE Response TIIE SCOPE OF THE GEIS, LET'S FACE IT; NEITHER RoUTE 7 NOR ROUTE II. H .IO 15', FOR EXA}IFLE. DROP OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH I{HET THE AIRPORT GEIS BORDER IS REACHED. A}iY WIDENING OF ROADS IN THIS AREA WILL TIAVE TO BE CONTINUED O}i INTO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES. EoUALLY IMPORTANT, COSTS TO THOSE MUNICIPALITIES WILL HAVE TO BE CONSIDEREIJ. 199i ^.31","Ttls$"1c, [r,{blgTHE-SitSTFitl[T il;;ilull5Poilr' T'ili$li! 5 COMPUTERDR|VE WEsT PJ-BANY,N Y 12205 5 j e-456-2161

October L7, L99O

Ms. Mary Burke, Senior planner Town of Colonie Engineering & planning Services 272 Maxwell Road Lathan, New york t2l t,0

Re: Al'4rort Alea Dlaft ceneric EnviroMentat Inpact Btat6uett, August 1990

Dear Mary:

Thank you for the opportunity to comnent on this document. The to!'rn, vi'llage and county are cominended on thi.s effort to comDretrerr- sively investigate developnent inpacts in this key j.nportance area. tnl of the effort has been recently reaffilmed by CDTC,S current lrork on a ten-year regional capacity and mobil-ily plan. The -wolf Road/ Albany Shaker Road/ WatervLi6t Snaker noadT- Wade Road area has been identified once again as one of the capital Dis- trj.ct's critical corridors on the baiis of current and projected traffic congestion.

The cEIs effort is aLso conmended for examining the transportation issues affecting aI1 units of governnent (statt, county, 1ocal and transit systens). In this regard, the final- GEIS should serve as a valuable reference document toward addressing existing and energing transportation probLens in the area.

There are several, observations that the cDTc staff hrould like to offer tor,rard improving the usefulness of the final GEIS and the re- sulting findings.

1. As discussed at our october 16 neeting, the usefulness of the "T.rg:!" . deveLopnent scenario coul.d be inproved through inclusion See of additional explanation and qualificatj.ons in the t;xt. The tar- App. 14 get.scenarlo rcunulative rnay be better terned a Developmentr sce- Response narlo to nore acculately describe its nature as an accurnulation of II.H.12. developer,s proposaLs and intentions, rather than to inply that the scenario is a desjred target or even the nost likely deieiopnent Ievel to expect over the next fifteen years. Mary Burke Page 2

The anount of development shown should be gualified in termE of the See fact that it represents a pace of developnent that significantly App. 14 exceeds regional forecasts of population and enployroent growth ior Response the study area. II.A. I . 2. The docunent does not attenpt nuch evaluation of the advantages and disadvantages of alternative nitigating actions beyond statel See nents of the actions, general effects. For exatnple, typical trans- App. 14 portat,ion studies attenpt to identify the relative nerj.is of a Response range of actions vrith respect to social, environnental and economic II.H.I3 goals. Measures of effectiveness are generally identified for the following: Iand consumption; connunitt disruplion, encroachnent on environrnental ly sensitive Lands and hiitoric lites; and transDorta- tion. system adequacy (in terms of arterial spacing, expected vehi- c1e hours of delay, user accident and operating coit, lystem levels-of-service and reserve capacity). AIso; it i-s typical to evaluate aLternative actions on a benefit-cost basj.s, choosing the most appropriate set of actions with knowledge of an expected B/C ratro or net present value for each set of actions.

If it.is.not possible or appropriate to include this type of analy- sis within the GEIS docunent for the ',ato nothing", build' (Options rintemediate'r "fuil L and 2) and some level-of highway con- See struction. then the town, village and county rnay uish to iualify App, 14 any coNnitnent to highway improvenents made in Lhe resulting stite- ment Response of findings as conditional, pending further environnenlal, rr.H.t3 engineering and econornic analysis. It ;hould be recognized that such further analysis night result in a final set of highuay rmprovenents that differs significantly from the sketch plan suggested in the GEIS.

Further, the docunent should attempt to suggest a staging plan for See the_ ldentified highway inprovenents. Even i rough stiging-plan App. l4 would provide users of the document a general unaerstanding of the conditions under which certain i.nprovements are needed and provide Response a basis for monitoring the need to advance each inprovement-. II R A

3. .A najor aspect of the transportat,ion nitigation neasures iden- tified in the DGEIS is travel darnand nanagernent. The inportance of thj.s nitigat.ion neasure should be enphasiied in the reoo-rt so as not to appear to be an r a fterthoughtir . AIso, the cost and degree of conmj.tnent required to accomplish the necessary 25? trip reduc- tion.should be clearly stated. The level of demaird nanageirent inplied rdould have to be sufficient to eli:ninate 5,ooo d;ily peak hour trips from the study area. This represents an extremeiy- Mary Burke Page 3

highly successful progran. Nationwide, experience indicates that such a high.Level of denand reduction is possible only through aale- quate staffing and support for rideshare natching, encouragenent, and adninistration of vanpool and transit progra;s and through direct econornic incentives to enployees. bemina reauction g6ing nuch beyond 8-10t appears to be likely only r,rhen transit and cai- pool users are given noticeable f j.nancial incentives (such as See through a nonthly transportation al.Iowance coupled wi.th parking App. fees), The aggregate cost of a dernand management prograrn suffi- l4 cient to elininate 5,OOO peak hour trips could easily exceed a rnil- Respoose lion doLlars annually, if both staffing costs, transit support and II.H.6 economic incentives are counted.

4. Some discussion is required in the GEIS to highLight the need for carefuL coordination of site development and arterial nanage- nent. The scale of development shown in the target scenario calls for development of new coll.ector and distributor roads in coniunc- tion uith the arterial irnprovements cited in the report. The arte- rials should be developed to serve through traffic ind provide access to colLector/distributor roads -- new driver.rays and curb See cuts should be avoided and exisli-ng ones consolidated where possi- App, 14 ble. while the report nay not be proscribe able to tbe details of Response an access nanagenent plan for Ny 7, ALbany-Shaker Road, Watervliet- TT TT 'R Shaker Road and other facilities, it should clearly docunent the need to develop such a p1an. Without careful access control, mobility in the study area will be jeopardized.

5: Certain aspects of highway inadequacy should perhaps be identi- See fied as inpacts on the residentiaL comrnunity. wnite tne nagnitude App. 14 of existing and future traffic j.s identified, its affect on the safety, accessibility and livabiLity of those living a1on9 the Response affected highways such as Sand Creek Road, f.till Road, and Albany II.H.14. Shaker Road should also be cited.

6. The use of a special district (a ',transportation developnent districtrr) should be considered as a possible alternative to imDact fees to raise the non-public share of desired highway irnproveneirts. The advantages are several: first, annual, assessments tnay be more See acceptable to property owners than Iarge one-time j-mpact fees; App. 14 second, assessments could include owners of existing development as well as ner., devel.opnent, further spreading out the burden; third, Response assessnents could be used to raise sone portion of the revenue rr.H.10. needed to rnitigate existing traffic problensi and fourth, assess- nents would be levied only if and lrhen inprovenents are to be undertaken.

7. EditoriaL conments are surnnarized in Attachnent 1 to this EECEIVED Uary Burke Page 4

Thanks again for the opportunity to conment on the trafflc-related issues of the Airport Area DGEIS. I{e are looking foryard to answering any questions you may have regarding our conrnents at the scheduled October 3i. neeting. In the meantirue, if we can be of assistance in any way please 1et ne know.

Sincerely,

n P. Poonnan Staff Director cc: l.tr. Pauf Cooney, Albany County Department of Public Works Mr. Larry CalLander. Clough, Harbour & Associates ^ IECEryED 0BT19 Eeo AltEchlcDa I o|foxtE tmNfoarrr6I tutr$$ Edlaorial Commctrts REgardt[g the Airport A|ti DCEIS

[:, poorman T * 9f-ryt:* cooracte4John (#23 on the lisr) is itrconccrryidesrfied asstalf Direao]ii the capital See Disttict RcgionalPlanning Commission. John Poormanis sralf birector of the CapiralDistrict TraosportationCommittee. References

Even when recetrt growth -considering traffic in tbe area, averagea-o.ouar daily tralfic vorumescitcd on Exn,Dr(lt.H-l See sccmsomewhar high when compared to irafftc couniscompiled by ACDPW in 19g?aod 1E)0..Most notably, Exhibit while rhe DGEts rcporrsrhat wou Road carriedmoie thau10,000 bcrwccnsard creek Road wd II.H.1. and Ajbany shaker Road in 1989,a seven-daycount ratcr ia Aprir 1990by e'corw points to roughly31,700 vpd norrh of SandCreek Road (afrer rhe openingof Witrdso;pbza).

we .understandrhat l'rYDSoTs designof rhe Roure?/Arbany shakcr Roadintcrsccrion has reccnrly been moorlrcd. I he - currentdesign callsfora left turnand right turn lanc eastbound;double lcft turn lanes Seg westbound;ard-a single.ight-turnlane and doublelefa turn lanesnorrhboun,l. we suggestconfir6iog this p. Ii-140 changewlrh NYSDOT a.odreflecting the changein the GEIS reporr,

4' he' 6 on Exhibit II-H-2 inco.rectryreads New Karncr Road/NyS ?. It shouldread Ncw Karner See Table Road/NYS5. II.H.2

5 Exhibts II-H-4 and II-H-5 cite "serviceRoads Reco'mendcd by CDTA'. Thc recommendingagency is See E::hibits CDTC. II.H.4 and II.11.5. 6 It may.bcweful if transportationimprovement costs cited h sectior H of the documentwere reportcd by See generalizedimprovcment typc (intersection, highwaywidening, ocw highway,srrucrures); cost c{tcgory App. 14 (construclion,righr.of-way, design, contingenciis); and time-Iiamc (shorcterm and long-term). Response ILH.29. '1. section vI of the reFort, "Unavoidable Adlerse Fnvi.ronmeata.lImpacls', could be a lirrle more descriptive- See In this regard, the transportarioa section should identify highway sigmcnts and highwayiatersectioos that App. 14 would opcrate at unacceptablclcvels-of-scrvice evcn iI a.lrmitigadn! actionswereluccessfulry implc- ment€d. Ths B,esponse ene that adequate ard safe accessibilityto resident-ialareas a jaccar to major roadwap ia vr.c. I ard elnetrdiDgouisidc the study area cannot bs assuredshould be discussetl,

we agrec .No with Richard wengraf that some addirionar discussionof the ioplicarioos of the Acrion. See alternativewould mak€this ssctionof the rcport morc meaningful.From a transpoltatioopcrspcctive, a pieccmeal App. l4 approachto tralfic mitigalionthaicould bc cxpecteiundcr thisaltcrnarivc may not bc sufficient to Response Prcvcntwrdcspread congestion in thc area. The trarsportationimplications of taling little or no action to m'itigate 1II.8.9. trallic impactsshourd bc describedin somc ditair il rermsof traffic0oq iaicrsectiondelay, air quality,public safety,land ard airport accessibiliry,rate of trallie groMb" andpace ofdevelopment. Y. oyr-ltvl: aTTVILLAGD Of COLONID ALBANY COUNTY NEW YORK

AGE HALL GE'IERAL OFFICES

a^NY. N Y | 2tO! t8.459.7362 September20, 1990

Lawrencel.,oods, AICP BEcnrv[il,stP21 1990 Clough, Harbour & Associates 3 l,linners Ci rc l e - .c-..\!.i_ Albany, New York 12205 :.L0lJ0l' H,1tif'ii:r a lrsvi,L'q r --

Villaqe & Townof Co'lonie OearMr, Woods:

TheVillage of Coloniehas reviewedthe referencedreport and we would'l Iike to submit the following commentsat this time. 0ur review has been imited and concentratedon the points whichare of concernto the viIIage. lle appreciatethe effort that has goneinto the DreDarationof this document, especiallysince I, andother Village officials also wererecentlv involvedin the preparationof a GenericEnvironmental ImDact Statement of considerable complexity.

0ur commentsare :

A. 1. l,lebelieve that the mostimDortant issue to be settled is exactl-vwhat the Village's obligations wouldbe towardsthe imolementati on of the Final GenericEnvironmen!al lmpact Statement (FGEIS) , whowill makedecisions on imDlementati on andwhat the Vi1 l age' s rol e i n the decisionmakino process will be. Thesematters should be aqreeduDon beforethe FGEISis accepted anda FindingsStatement issued, Specifica'l1y: it be o The programof improvements'less should be flexible so that can adjusted as more or growth occurs than is anticipated in the "2005Target GrowthScenarjo". o The programshould be designedand nonitoredto makesure that at the end of each stage of construction of improvementsa reasonably completesysten is in p)acewhich can function for an jndefinite time without any additi ons. o The NY State Dept. of Transportationshou'ld be fu11y involvedand committedin the planningand imp'lementation,and approvethe program andfi nancing p1an. o The financing plan shou'1d provide sufficient funds and safeguards that the spoisoringagencies - County,Town, Vjllage and, if possi- ble, NYSDOT- are protectedfrom any unexpectedliability to makeup defjciencies if mitigation fees do not cover improvementswhjch have See App. 14 been cormitted or bu-ilt. It should be understoodby al1 concerned Response that the Village will not contribute any moneyfrom its generalfund. rr.8.8.8 pp.I I-25e Ll-260. September20, L990 Lawrencelloods ' AIcP PageTwo

See App. l4 o Theremust be clear provisions for projects, whjchare beingapproved Rebponse while the EIS is being prepared,as to cut-off dates and credit for II.B.7. mitjgatjon fees alreadypa id, ar II.U. ). a. Considering the above points and apparent slow down in the pace of See App. 14 development,a low-growthalternative shouldbe workedout in moredetail, Response inciuding a programof improvementsto serve this lowergrowth scenario. ? rrJeprefer the option II H'ighwayImprovements as having less of an effect on the Village. If OptionI is chosen,the II. B. I awayfromtheSunset8oulevardneighborhood.@. 4, |'{e reconmendconsideration of s'idewalksas mitigating measures,for See App,I4 instance, on SandCreek Road where the Deakhour traffic is expectedto KesDonse doubie. Thereis ampleprecedent and justification for mitiqationoutside tr-'H. 32. the studyarea of an EIS. q The concept of a relief road south from Sand Creek Roadnext to the 5"" Northway,agrees with the Village's plans; we are currently studyinq the $pp. 14 location and alignment.of-this road. it:R918: 6. Further research on the 1ega1problerns of transferrinq mitigition fees il^'' from the Vil'lage to the Toin RecreationCommjssion is needectthis coes ifii. ta not.mean-that at this time. the Villagewould consent to sucha transfer Ii:A:ft: 7. Technica'lPoints that shouldbe corrected/c'leared-up: a. t.lhatare proposednitiqation fees for hotels andmotels? 9"' b. An "Archeologica'l0veilay District" (p. II-195) in the \ti11age3e"s App. I4 not appearnecessary since the on1.vsignificant undevelopedoarcel - Kesponse ShakerP.un Apartments - has been coveredby an archeologicalinves- II.0. I7 tigation. Seep.II-2

Cther Cormentsof a l{ore GeneralNature See App.l4 1. "2005 Tarqet GrownScenario" and Response the I ow-irowthscenario should be eva'luatedto maie sure they are not so Ir.0.3 & high as to makedeveiopment uneconom'ical . III, B. I , To finance transportation improvements,the creation of a Transportation DevelopmentDistrict (TDD)appears to be a promisingsolution and the See App.14 discussionshould reflect this. A TDDmight be the appropriatevehicle to Response insure NYSDoTpartjcipation; the formula to determinecontributions from II.H.10. benefitted property can be adjustedto fjt the requirementsof the TDDiit maycause NYSDoT to movestate highwaypro.jects up on the prjority 1ist. ,l Theauthors of the DGEISshould clarif,y the followingDoints: a. Concerningthe excise tax on development:Is there an precedentfor See App. 14 this in NewYork? ARethere an_vstatutory referenced? Response b. Are there any precedentsfor requiring mitigating fees for expansionrr.0,18 of a municipa'lgolf course?See App.14 Response II.o.i3. in discussingpositive impacts(p. IV-i) the authorsmay want to considerSee App.I4 that successful implementationof the proposedmitigation measureswould Response contribute to the creat'ionof a commercialand enploytnent focus for the rr.0.ll. Capital District, in effect, a newdowntovrn. Septernber20, 1990 Lawrencel,loods, Al CP PageThree we may submit additional commentsafter the public hearing. If you want discussthe comnentsin this letter further, pieasefeel frei to cail us,

Sincere'ly yours ,

/- / dr--L. -'r'4i Kl<-lt--- il--nerDert 5. Kuhn, l'1ayor

FredField, Supervisor,Town of Colonie Paul F, Coonev,P.E. AIbanyCount-y Engineer PeterPlatt, Chairman,Town of Colonjeplann.inq Board RobertMitchel l , P.E., Director Townof ColonieEngr. & p1ng.Services ChristopherDennis, Acting Chr. Vi1'lageplanninq Conm. JohnA. [1artin,Village PlanningCornm. Davidflarinucci, Eso., Villa0e Attorney l.iarkFitzsinmons, Environmental l4anagernent Director Albany Coun t_y LabergeEngineerinq & ConsultingGroun Ltd. CH^.ITI{AN Btrr E D6riA Jr. IST YICE CHATRI|AX Job 8. li&oni 2ND V|CE CH.{ttltNt Tnraut€n

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October 12. 7990

ocT' 18 19e0 Mr. Peter E. P1att, Chaiman O(oMr Tonn o|Er€r{trC6g of Col.onie Planning Board Fllti*$ 272 Haxwell Rdad Lathao, Nev York 12110

Dear Mr. Platt:

lle had tbe opportulity to revieE the Draft Generic EnviroD.oental fEpacr StateDent for the Albsny County Airport area. I.Je!,ant to coll[eDd the Torm Council and the PlanniDg Board for the leadershi.p i:r carrying out such at i.Dportant ta6k of regional aignificance. The follovirlg are our oD the DCEIS: "o.o.rrts I. Executive Suomary, Paee 3: nEnplaaeurents at A1b8ny County Aj.rport vere projected to Eore thaa double by the end of plannirg period (2005).r

is _ft aecessary to irdicate the be6e yee.r ot the projecrion. It l99O ie used- rEnplaDeqelts _as the ba6e year. then. the nore ploper atatenent oould be. at Albany County Airport eere projected to alEost double beteeen 1990 and

lecent ___A study of scheduled Eetilrj.ce deDend at the Albany County Airport by SeeApp. 14 CDRPCstaff has indicated that enplane.Dents at the Airgori are shovini signs Response of elowiag since 1988. Given the6e re6ulta, l,e suggest u6ing tbe TI.8.2. vative lov forecast of the Air Service Study (Cree6) shj.ch a"or. grosth "oo"e._ rate of approxi-lrately 721 berween 1990 arrd 2005. "horre

nstudy A copy of the CDRPC reporr, of Scheduled Service Deaand - Upper Hud6on Regional Aviation SysteE plan. June, 1990r. is encl.oaed for your reference.

ALBANY COUNTY RENSSELAEIICOUNTY SAN.f,:ITrcA COUNTY SCHENDCTADY COUNTY

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X.dn C. Pltltr|||.r. Jr. M. Wn&n, |ll 2. Chepter ff, Section A: DenogrEphic6

T8b1e ff-A-2: Existing and Projecred Torncide popularioa

1980 1989 2005 Toezl Outside Village e1 11a 6EFo 83;66-e Vi.llage of Colonie 8.859 9,700 10,972 Seepg. Ii-3 Villege of Meoande 4.o72. 5,236 Total 75.593 99,667 t Tbe correct totel is 74,593, I,le believe tbat the e6tjaated 1989 population and projected ZOO5 popula- tion preaented fut the DGEIS for both the Town and the Study Area are too bigh and unrealietic.. The fcllowing sbowe the 1990 prelioiaary Census countE a;d 2005 proj eetions Eade by Cn.'rJC.

Prelioi'rary 2005 -6m?1-1990 Census CDRPCProi ectiou Towa outside Village 65,094 Village of Colonie 9.594 Village of HenaDds 4,216 4, 189 Total 78.87 7

The DGEIS 1989 esti-aated population for the entire Tonn is 4.959 or 10..4I Dore than the Prelioi:rary 1990 Census figures and ir6 Z0O5 projectioo is 20.790, or 26.42 nore than the 1eve1 projected by CDRpC. the OCefS projected ttet gEoarth i! rhe Town by 2005 sould gccount for nearly 39U of the CDRPC projected total net glo!'th for tbe entile 4-county C8pit81 District. please keep ia lrird that the entiEe toun grev by only about 1,700 duriag tbe last decade and it accounted for less than 8Z of, the total populatiou gai! of the Region. There is no evideoce to indicate that a qajoE shift i! the grouth trend aDd developeeot partern of the Region is forthcooing aad tbat the Town of Colonie rri.ll becooe the oagneric center for residential growth.

We ceEtairly cannot support the 1evel of population groeth as presmted in SeeApp. 14 the DGEIS end seriously queation the assuDptiona based upon shich the projec- Response tions vere Bade for the Tolrn and the study Areg. lre .uggest tbat the plsnni'g IT A I Soard and the Conaultant carefully reassesa the probability of actual i-aple- Bentstion of those proposed ner residential projects uithi! the Study Area for the next fifteen years. He doubt that those additional units suggested by the DGEfS could be abeorbed by short- and loDg-teEn housirg denand expected iI the Tot'n ald the Region.

3. Chapter ff. Section B: Land U6e and Zonire

fbe DGEIS gave reference to CDRPC| 6 population and eoployoelr projectiooe and has recoooended the rrTarBet Grorth DevelopDent Scenarion. ft projected tbat up to 1.600 ner housiag unita and an additional 7.4 qillion souare feet of colaerqia! 6pece could be builr within the Study Area by tbe year 2005.

Tbe 7.4 nillion square feet of nes counercial and uaaufacturiag spece could aupport up to 23.000 netr jobe. We believe that the nusber Ls far iron Eeality. The total Dutober of jobe (by reeidency) in the eBtire toro of Coloaie is projected to Blou froo 48,270 in 1990 t; 59,146 i! 2005. a gaia of 10.876..

Ageirt. se Eugge8t that tbe pl8nning Board aad tbe Coraultant carefully SeeApp. 14 ressaea€ the reality of tho6e proposed developaent projectai Uodoubtediy, Respon se nany projects aEe apeculative in neture and irould trot be built becaqse of li.qited oarket deraad. II.B.1.

lle also auggest that the CoDgultant provide an analyeis of tleoographic aad eopl.olEent dara of the Study Area by TAZ . for the plannirg period . The results sbould be conpared lrith tho6e relati,ve data available flod @RpC aod be ircluded in the fiJ|al GEIS for leference Dumo6es.

4. Chapter ff. section H: Transportation

lle suggegt that Dee trip generation for the ts,rget year end rraffic SeeApp. t4 i.Dpacts Ehould be recalculated baeed on the adjuEted deDographic and laad Respon se u6e/eDployoeot data. II.H.1. The application of Tran6portatioo Syste! Manageoett (TSl|) neasuree. including ride-shari-ag prograls. vari,able nork hour ptograos, and rran6it SeeApp. t4 prograEsr all are i.uportant alterDativea to Eitigate traffic iapact6. llot ev- Response er. tbe effecti.veqeEa of tbese Deasure6 is que6tionable if they are goiDg to II.H.1. be i-upleDented and enfoEced oaly vithin tbe Study Area.

lle 6ugge6t tbat tbe fiJlal GEIS should clarify and elaborare the jurisdictioDal See App. 14 aad i.nplenentation issues associated eith TsMEeaaureE, Respoirie TT U T1 Ia cloBing, we tbank you for tbe opportunity to revien rhe DGEIS and hope tbat ou! coEDenta vil1 be ueeful to the TorJn aad the County in carryiag out the taak.

Sincerely your6. / - 2/ 4)r?? l_ t 2--<> huny'chin Chen E:rdutive Director ccl r[:. Enclosure

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