R4 Interviewee: Pravin Gordhan Interviewer: David Hausman Date of I
An initiative of the National Academy of Public Administration, and the Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs and the Bobst Center for Peace and Justice, Princeton University Oral History Program Series: Civil Service Interview no.: R4 Interviewee: Pravin Gordhan Interviewer: David Hausman Date of Interview: 26 February 2010 Location: Pretoria, South Africa Innovations for Successful Societies, Bobst Center for Peace and Justice Princeton University, 83 Prospect Avenue, Princeton, New Jersey, 08544, USA www.princeton.edu/successfulsocieties Use of this transcript is governed by ISS Terms of Use, available at www.princeton.edu/successfulsocieties Innovations for Successful Societies Series: Civil service Oral History Program Interview number: R-4 ______________________________________________________________________ HAUSMAN: This is David Hausman and I’m here in Pretoria with Minister of Finance, Pravin Gordhan on February 26, 2010. Mr. Gordhan, have you agreed to be recorded for this interview? GORDHAN: Yes, very willingly. HAUSMAN: Thanks so much. I wanted to start by asking you what you perceived as the largest and most pressing organizational problems when you first arrived in SARS, first as Deputy Commissioner and then as Commissioner? GORDHAN: Well, look at a bit of context, but maybe I’ll come to that. The largest was to make SARS (South Africa Revenue Service) into an effective and efficient organization and to help it move out of its then frame of operation into a more enterprising and activist-orientated organization. But in the first instance I had to learn—I wasn’t a tax man, so I had to learn the business. Secondly I had to take account of the political and sociological climate in South Africa.
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