COUNCIL of the CITY of WINNIPEG Wednesday July 27, 2005
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COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WINNIPEG Wednesday July 27, 2005 The Council met at 9:36 a.m. I had a request which will be granted to reverse the time slots for a Greg Mandzuk The Clerk advised the Speaker that a and Kevin Rebeck on this issue, your first quorum was present. two delegations. So Mr. Mandzuk, I believe by agreement that you would take The Speaker called the meeting to order. the 10 minute slot, on opposition to item 1, the report of Alternate Service Delivery The opening prayer was read by of May 17th. Welcome, Greg. Councillor Clement. Mr. Greg Mandzuk: Thank you, Mr. ROLL CALL Chairperson. Good morning Your Worship, City Councillors. Very intimidating situation. Thank you for the Clerk: Mr. Speaker Councillor opportunity to present our views on the O'Shaughnessy, His Worship Mayor Katz, recommendation facing you today, Councillors Eadie, Lazarenko, Benham, regarding contracting out, manual and Clement, Gerbasi, Lubosch, Magnifico, autobin collection services. Pagtakhan, Smith, Steeves, Swandel, Thomas, Wyatt. First and foremost, I stand here in opposition to this recommendation. INTRODUCTION AND WELCOME OF CUPE believes that the current mix of GUESTS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS public and private collection serves the citizens of Winnipeg in the best way Mr. Speaker: We have a page with us possible and we urge you to keep this mix this morning. I would like to introduce intact. By voting in favour of this Alyssa Copeland of Glenlawn Collegiate recommendation you are indeed creating who resides in the St. Vital ward. a private sector monopoly by selling off Welcome. your assets. It is the union's opinion that you are putting the City at risk in the MINUTES future. In my presentation I will try to ask the appropriate questions and key in on Mr. Speaker: Councillor Smith moves the some of these points. minutes of the meeting held June 29, 2005 be taken as read and confirmed. In terms of differences and costs we have heard everything from $1.4 million dollars All in favour? Contrary? Carried. to $3 million dollars in savings if it was contracted out. The only real fact of this DELEGATIONS matter is your employees have offered up $1 million dollars worth of savings and Mr. Speaker: Councillor Gerbasi. even savings in 2005 if these internal improvements were enacted. Everything Councillor Gerbasi: Thank you Mr. else in the business plan is based on Speaker, I've received a request from one assumption that the private sector will delegation, a Mr. Al Mackling who would, deliver this service for low prices. and I’m requesting if Council would waive the rules for one more five minute slot to The union does not believe that the hear Mr. Mackling on the ASD issue. savings should be extended for a 10-year period of time. Your savings to contract Mr. Speaker: No further comment on it? out diminish when you make the The motion is that the rules be waived to comparison to a four year period in which hear one additional delegation in a five the private sector contract would be. minute slot on the opposition side I gather There are no guarantees that the private of contracting out of solid waste collection. sector prices will remain low but there are guarantees when your employees offer All in favour? Contrary? Carried. up such savings and you are managing those employees properly. COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WINNIPEG 391 July 27, 2005 During the business planning process the employees that you trust that the private administration stated they could not sector would never take advantage of the understand how the contractor can City in the future. provide the service for such a low cost. I ask you today, is the price right? Throughout this debate we have heard that the productivity of civic forces is less In a publication dated June 1, 2005, called than the private sector. These were 2002 Waste Age or Wastage, this is produced stats that were presented to you. Since by the private sector I quote, "waste 2002, and something that has been industry prices are looking up thanks to an forgotten by some, civic forces have improving economy and the resulting increased their productivity levels each increases in trash volume that have and every year. In addition, they voted in enabled firms to increase their service favour of implementing internal rates according to financial analysts. improvements, what's included in internal Roughly 50% of waste companies newly improvements is a modified work week. signed customers, which you will be, have What more can they do? rates priced higher than other clients according to the first quarter 2005 survey Well Council, Mr. Mayor, I’ll tell you what of 150 private waste firms in the States.” we will not do. This union will never, ever lower our wages and pay what the Hearing this news, do you still think that contractor pays their employees. We will contracting out is the right decision? Do never subsidize our membership, your you believe that the administration has a workforce, with agency labour and pay competitive bidding strategy that will substandard wages and give those ensure you receive the best deal possible employees substandard benefits to from the private sector? Do you know that perform this backbreaking work. one company now is delivering both contracts in the north side of the City? You are going to hear a presentation from One might say this can be construed as the Chamber of Commerce shortly and sort of a mini monopoly. Mr. Angus is no doubt going to be telling you what a great decision this would be to How can we believe the costs in autobin, contract out. Wage differentials between when not so recently or not so long ago, public and private employees have an the last set of numbers produced by impact on local businesses and social management, $463,000 in savings, providers, both. If you pay your disappeared into thin air. The private employees substandard wages the entire sector does not even do this work. How community loses including businesses. did management assume that the private Decent wages benefit the community at sector could do this work for less than large and this includes business. civic forces? That answer is easy. Management just went and knocked on Much has been said about how you as a one of these multinational firm's doors and City want to take care of your employees. asked if they could deliver the service for Tell your former Social Services people less than what we currently do, and these this. Since 1999, we have been trying to are our prices. Guess what the answer redeploy all of those people that the was. Province took over here in the City, and we still haven't completed that. There's There are a number of Councillors in this still people sitting in temporary positions. room today that took part in the debate To say that you will redeploy 30 when the Provincial Environmental permanent positions with any type of hearings took place on the proposed BFI ease is blatantly not true. Rosser landfill. Part of the City's position at that time was that there is enough In addition you have 31 temporary capacity in our own landfill to fulfill the employees that are working full-time, 12 needs of the area and that BFI was going months a year that will be laid off because to be taking money right out of the City's you do not have the same protection in pockets. Today you sit here and tell your 392 COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WINNIPEG July 27, 2005 place for those employees that you do for which takes work away from multinational permanent employees. companies, it is the union's opinion that you are placing this municipality at risk. This workforce has thrown tons and tons of garbage on these trucks for you over Your employees believe there's untapped the years. Their seniority ranges from one opportunities for dealing with solid waste. year to 15 years but all they and their What about exploring cities like Toronto families have to look forward to is and what they're doing? Currently the employment insurance benefits and civic workforce in Toronto is $3 per maybe two to three months of work here resident cheaper than Waste in the City. The stress you will place on Management. And the City of Toronto your staff and their families will be huge. pays their employees $19 an hour, more If you make the decision to contract out than you pay yours. They work four ten- this work, I hope it is City Council hour work weeks. But this idea was not delivering those lay-off notices. acceptable to management. The administration is wrong when they There are no controls when you manage say that these employees can use their through contract management. Contracts seniority to move into other departments. are only as good as the paper they're They do not have the right to move into written on and if you want something other departments until either they're different, you pay extra. When you have made permanent or every other seasonal a civic workforce, you do not pay for the is re-hired and engaged in work in the extras. As a City, you have much more to City. There is no plan, HR plan for gain when employing your own temporary employees and barely one for employees. Could you call WMI or BFI permanent employees. and ask them to fill sandbags like your employees just did a couple of weekends Numerous and significant.