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EC/S4/13/20/A EDUCATION AND CULTURE COMMITTEE AGENDA 20th Meeting, 2013 (Session 4) Tuesday 25 June 2013 The Committee will meet at 10.00 am in Committee Room 6. 1. Inquiry into decision making on whether to take children into care: The Committee will take evidence from— Aileen Campbell, Minister for Children and Young People, David Blair, Head of Looked After Children Policy, and Phil Raines, Head of Child Protection, Scottish Government. 2. Inquiry into decision making on whether to take children into care: The Committee will consider a note from the clerk. 3. Children and Young People (Scotland) Bill: The Committee will take evidence on the Bill at Stage 1 from— Elisabeth Campbell, Children's Legislation Team Leader, Gordon McNicoll, Divisional Solicitor/Deputy Director, Communities and Education Division, Scott Wood, Lead Policy Adviser, Children's Rights, Boyd McAdam, Head of Better Life Chances Unit, Lynn Townsend, Implementation Manager, Better Life Chances Unit, and Stuart Robb, Head of Early Years Policy Delivery Unit, Scottish Government; and then from— Elisabeth Campbell, Children's Legislation Team Leader, Ruth Inglis, Solicitor, Scottish Government Legal Directorate, Susan Bolt, Early Learning and Childcare Team Leader, David Blair, Head of Looked After Children Policy, and Clare Morley, School Infrastructure Unit Team Leader, Scottish Government. 4. Subordinate legislation: The Committee will consider the following negative instruments— EC/S4/13/20/A National Library of Scotland Act 2012 (Consequential Modifications) Order 2013 (SSI 2013/169); Equality Act 2010 (Specification of Public Authorities) (Scotland) Order 2013 (SSI 2013/170); Requirements for Community Learning and Development (Scotland) Regulations 2013 (SSI 2013/175); Adam Smith College, Fife (Transfer and Closure) Order 2013 (SSI 2013/179); Anniesland College and Langside College (Transfer and Closure) (Scotland) Order 2013 (SSI 2013/180); James Watt College (Transfer and Closure) (Scotland) Order 2013 (SSI 2013/181); Kilmarnock College (Transfer and Closure) (Scotland) Order 2013 (SSI 2013/182); Reid Kerr College (Transfer and Closure) (Scotland) Order 2013 (SSI 2013/183). 5. Inquiry into decision making on whether to take children into care (in private): The Committee will consider the main themes arising from evidence received during the inquiry. Terry Shevlin Clerk to the Education and Culture Committee Room T3.60 The Scottish Parliament Edinburgh Tel: 0131 348 5204 Email: [email protected] EC/S4/13/20/A The papers for this meeting are as follows— Agenda Item 1 Written Evidence EC/S4/13/20/1 Agenda Item 2 Note by the clerk EC/S4/13/20/2 Agenda Item 3 Written Evidence EC/S4/13/20/3 PRIVATE PAPER EC/S4/13/20/4 (P) Agenda Item 4 Subordinate Legislation EC/S4/13/20/5 Agenda item 1 EC/S4/13/20/1 Education and Culture Committee 20th Meeting, 2013 (Session 4), Tuesday 25 June 2013 Inquiry into decision making on whether to take children into care Purpose 1. This paper aims to inform the Committee’s questioning of the Minister for children and young people. This will be the final evidence-taking session before the Committee reports on its inquiry. Event 2. The Committee held an event on 17 June, which included a wide range of individuals and groups with an interest in the inquiry. As part of the event, breakout discussions were held in which participants considered four key questions identified by the Committee. On the basis of these questions, each breakout group identified two or three points that the Committee could raise with the minister, or consider in its final report. Annexe A, page 3, sets out all the points that were made in the breakout groups. 3. Annexe B, page 5, contains— some other key questions identified by the Committee that, because of time constraints, were not discussed at the event; information on participants’ responses to three questions asked by the convener at the start of the event; and further comments and questions emailed to the Committee after the event, following a request from the convener. Interim report 4. Annexe C, page 7, contains the Scottish Government’s response to the Committee’s interim report, in case members wish to discuss any points from that report in more detail. For example, Members may wish to ask for further information on Scottish Government work mentioned in the response that appears to have some overlap with the Committee’s inquiry— “… we are refreshing the national child protection guidance, taking full account of the importance of providing a clearer fit with children’s hearings and other looked after children processes.” “We are also reviewing our approach to Looked After Children and child protection more generally, over the long term, to take full advantage of the statutory embedding of Named Persons and the Child’s Plan.” “We are also working on a mapping process for the interaction between these complex child support processes and the court system. We will consider how best to communicate how these 1 Agenda item 1 EC/S4/13/20/1 systems fit together, to those children and families who are involved.” “The Scottish Government worked with the previous LACSIG Commissioning Activity Hub to promote strategic commissioning and has funded the Regional Child Care Commissioning Initiative based at Renfrewshire Council. We are now considering how best to build on the learning we have from this work to further support local authorities who wish to undertake strategic commissioning. While any support would be offered to partnerships on a voluntary basis, we believe that providing support and access to suitable tools will help to encourage a level of consistency in approach and allow learning to be shared with other areas.” Discussion 5. Following the evidence session with the Minister, the Committee will take evidence from Scottish Government officials on the Children and Young People (Scotland) Bill, which seeks to address some of the issues that have arisen over the course of the inquiry. The Committee will then discuss in private the areas that it wishes to cover in the final inquiry report. 2 Agenda item 1 EC/S4/13/20/1 ANNEXE A This annexe sets out— the four questions that were discussed in breakout groups at the event; the points that each breakout group asked the Committee to raise with the minister or in its final report. If we know what works best in seeking to return a child to the family home, why are outcomes for such children often so poor? 1. Importance of loving relationships May involve breaking taboos (especially with professionals) May be messy Helping parents 2. Importance of continuity of care All ages – from parents, foster carers, other professionals. To go beyond 16 Residential units could have “open beds” Link with new Bill “Shared care” (professionals ready to step in and support where an issue arises but not substitute parents) 3. Importance of robust assessment Current structures can mitigate against this Will involve working with parents to help them to address issues that led to children being taken into care Not enough good assessment with analysis Currently good at collecting information but not using it 4. Importance of good quality research and training for professionals This could be improved 3 Agenda item 1 EC/S4/13/20/1 What are the best means of seeking to reduce neglect for those children who are not formally on the child protection register? What guidance is planned for children supervised at home to clarify: a. the purpose of supervision, and b. expected outcomes? Does the Scottish Government have any plans to prepare guidance requiring all who interact with a child to be aware of and have training in the milestones of a child’s development and the importance of attachment? How can we ensure that children and young people are better informed and included in the decision making processes before, during and after leaving care? The Hearings system must be more open, better at communicating, honest and always put children and young people at the centre. Children should always have a right to advocacy and to be heard on their own (not just in theory). There are too many people involved. Training for panel members needs to improve and be on-going: some young people and children seem to feel powerless. Not just about hearings – there are other meetings that make decisions about children, which are often less inclusive; contain too many people, who often don’t know the child; and focus on the system not children and young people. We do not always know the outcomes for young people who have left care – no systematic data is available. Do we need to question the concept of leaving care anyway? Good care relationships with children and young people makes the system work. Does the “rule of optimism” within social work create a reluctance to remove children from the family home, even though this may have been the preferred option for some children who are now in care? What needs to be done at a national level to improve practice around contact? Is there a contradiction between the policy objectives in ‘Getting our priorities right’ and GIRFEC? E.G. does the rule of optimism working with adults on recovery clash with early intervention with children? How do you ensure that the courts have better understanding of children’s needs? 4 Agenda item 1 EC/S4/13/20/1 ANNEXE B This annexe sets out other questions and issues arising from the event that the Committee may wish to discuss with the minister. Questions not selected The following questions were highlighted by the Committee and briefly considered at the event, but were not selected for in-depth discussion in the breakout groups— 1.