Volume IV Wednesday, No. 15 28th November, 1962

PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES

DEWAN RA'AYAT (HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES)

OFFICIAL REPORT

CONTENTS

ADMINISTRATION OF OATH [Col. 1563] ANNOUNCEMENTS BY MR SPEAKER: Message from the Senate [Col. 1563] Assent to Bills Passed [Col. 1564] ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS [Col. 1565] STATEMENT BY PRIME MINISTER: Sino-Indian Border Dispute [Col. 1567] EARLIER RESUMPTION (Motion) [Col. 1580] BILLS PRESENTED [Col. 1580] MOTION: Waktu Persidangan Meshuarat [Col. 1582] BILLS: The National Land Code (Penang and Malacca Titles) Bill [Col. 1583] The Rubber Industry (Anti-Inflationary Cess) Fund (Winding Up) Bill [Col. 1598] MOTION: Standing Orders Committee (Fourth Session)-Second Report [Col. 1601] BILL: The Supply Bill, 1963 [Col. 1614] WRITTEN ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS [Col. 1653]

Dl-CHETAK Dl-JABATAN CHETAK KERAJAAN OLEH THOR BENG CHONG, A.M.N., PENCHETAK KERAJAAN PERSEKUTUAN TANAH MELAYU 1963

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FEDERATION OF MALAYA DEWAN RA'AYAT (HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES) Official Report

Fourth Session of the First Dewan Ra'ayat

Wednesday, 28th November., 1962 The House met at Ten o'clock a.m. PRESENT: The Honourable Mr Speaker, DATO' HAJ1 MOHAMED NOAH BIN OMAR, s.P.M.J., D.P.M.B., P.I.S., J.P. the Prime Minister, Minister of External Affairs and Minister of Information and Broadcasting, Y.T.M. TuNKU ABDUL RAHMAN PUTRA AL-HAJ, K.O.M. (Kuala Kedah). the Deputy Prime Minister, Minister of Defence and Minister of Rural Development, TuN HAJ1 ABDUL RAZAK BIN DATO' HUSSAIN, S.M.N. (Pekan). the Minister of Internal Security and Minister of the Interior, DATO' DR ISMAIL BIN DATO' HAJI ABDUL RAHMAN, P.M.N. (Johore Timor). the Minister of Finance, ENCHE' TAN Srnw SIN, J.P. (Malacca Tengah). the Minister of Works, Posts and Telecommunications, DATO' v. T. SAMBANTHAN, P.M.N. (Sungei Siput). the Minister of Transport, DATO' HAJI SARDON BIN HAJI JUBIR, P.M.N. (Pontian Utara). the Minister of Agriculture and Co-operatives, ENCHE' MOHAMED KHIR BIN JOHAR! (Kedah Tengah). the Minister of Health, ENCHE' ABDUL RAHMAN BIN HAJI TALIB (Kuantan). the Minister of Commerce and Industry, DR LIM SWEE AUN, J.P. (Larut Selatan). the Minister of Education, TUAN HAJI ABDUL HAMID KHAN BIN HAJI SAKHAWAT ALI KHAN, J.M.N., J.P. (Batang Padang). the Minister without Portfolio, ENCHE' ABDUL AZIZ BIN ISHAK (Kuala Langat). the Assistant Minister of the Interior, ENCHE' CHEAH THEAM SWEE (Bukit Bintang). the Assistant Minister of Labour, ENCHE' v. MANICKAVASAGAM, J.M.N., P.J.K. (Klang). the Assistant Minister of Information and Broadcasting, ENCHE' MOHAMED ISMAIL BIN MOHAMED YusoF (Jerai). ENCHE' ABDUL GHANI BIN ISHAK, A.M.N. (Malacca Utara). "'A'l

1559 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1560 The Honourable ENCHE' ABDUL RAUF BIN A. RAHMAN, P.J.K. (Krian Laut). ENCHE' ABDUL RAzAK BIN HAJI RUSSIN (Lipis). ENCHE' ABDUL SAMAD BIN OSMAN (Sungei Patani). TOH MUDA HAJI ABDULLAH BIN HAJI ABDUL RAOF (Kuala Kangsar). TUAN HAJI ABDULLAH BIN HAJI MoHD. SALLER, A.M.N., P.1.s. (Segamat Utara). TUAN HAJI AHMAD BIN ABDULLAH (Kata Bharu Hilir). ENCHE' AHMAD BIN ARSHAD, A.M.N. (Muar Utara). ENCHE' AHMAD BOESTAMAM (Setapak). ENCHE' AHMAD BIN MOHAMED SHAH, S.M.J. (Johore Bahru Barat). TUAN HAJI AHMAD BIN SAAID (Seberang Utara). ENCHE' AHMAD BIN RAH YusoF, P.J.K. (Krian Darat). TUAN HAJI AZAHAR! BIN HAJI IBRAHIM (Kubang Pasu Barat). ENCHE' AZIZ BIN ISHAK (Muar Dalam). DR BURHANUDDIN BIN MOHD. NOOR (Besut). ENCHE' CHAN CHONG WEN, A.M.N. (Kluang Selatan). ENCHE' CHAN SIANG SUN (Bentong). ENCHE' CHAN SWEE Ho (Ulu Kinta). ENCHE' CHAN YOON ONN (Kampar). ENCHE' CHIN SEE YIN (Seremban Timor). ENCHE' v. DAVID (Bungsar). DATIN FATIMAH BINTI HAJI HASHIM, P.M.N. (Jitra-Padang Terap). ENCHE' HAMZAH BIN ALANG, A.M.N. (Kapar). ENCHE' HANAFI BIN MOHD. YUNUS, A.M.N. (Kulim Utara). ENCHE' HARUN BIN ABDULLAH, A.M.N. (Baling). ENCHE' HARUN BIN PILUS (Trengganu Tengah). TUAN HAJI HASAN ADLI BIN HAJI ARSHAD (Kuala Trengganu Utara). TUAN HAJI HASSAN BIN HAJI AHMAD (Tumpat). ENCHE' HASSAN BIN MANSOR (Malacca Selatan). ENCHE' HUSSEIN BIN To' MUDA HASSAN (Raub). TUAN HAJI HUSSAIN RAHIMI BIN HAJI SAMAN (Kata Bharu Hulu). ENCHE' IBRAHIM BIN ABDUL RAHMAN (Seberang Tengah). ENCHE' ISMAIL BIN IDRIS (Penang Selatan). ENCHE' ISMAIL BIN HAn KASSIM (Kuala Trengganu Selatan). ENCHE' K. KARAM SINGH (Damansara). CHE' KHADIJAH BINTI MoHD. SIDEK (Dungun). ENCHE' KHONG KOK y AT (Batu Gajah). " ENCHE' LEE SAN CHOON (Kluang Utara). ENCHE' LEE SECK FUN (Tanjong Malim). ENCHE' LIM Joo KONG, J.P. (Alar Star). '""" ·.~

1561 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1562 The Honourable ENCHE' LIM KEAN SIEW (Dato Kramat). ENCHE' LIU YOONG PENG (Rawang). ENCHE' T. MAHIMA SINGH, J.P. (Port Dickson). ENCHE' MOHAMED BIN UJANG (Jelebu-Jempol). ENCHE' MOHAMED ABBAS BIN AHMAD (Hilir Perak). ENCHE' MOHAMED ASRI BIN HAJI MUDA (Pasir Puteh). ENCHE' MOHAMED DAHARI BIN HAJI MOHD. ALI (Kuala Selangor). ENCHE' MOHAMED NOR BIN MOHD. DAHAN (Ulu Perak). DATO' MOHAMED HANIFAH BIN HAJI ABDUL GHANI, P.J.K. (Pasir Mas Hulu). ENCHE' MOHAMED YusoF BIN MAHMUD, A.M.N. (Temerloh). NIK MAN BIN NIK MOHAMED (Pasir Mas Hilir). ENCHE' NG ANN TECK (Batu). ENCHE' OTHMAN BIN ABDULLAH (Tanah Merah). ENCHE' OTHMAN BIN ABDULLAH, A.M.N. (Perlis Utara). TUAN HAJI REDZA BIN HAJI MOHD. SAID (Rembau-Tampin). ENCHE' SEAH TENG NGIAB (Muar Pantai). ENCHE' D. R. SEENIVASAGAM (lpoh). ENCHE' s. P. SEENIVASAGAM (Menglembu). TUAN SYED EsA BIN ALWEE, J.M.N., s.M.J., P.1.s. (Batu Pahat Dalam). ENCHE' TAJUDIN BIN ALI, P.J.K. (Larut Utara). ENCHE' TAN CHENG BEE, J.P. (Bagan). ENCHE' TAN PHOCK KIN (Tanjong). ENCHE' TAN TYE CHEK (Kulim-Bandar Bahru). TENGKU BESAR INDERA RAJA IBNI AL-MARHUM SULTAN IBRAHIM, D.K., P.M.N. (Ulu Kelantan). DATO' TEOH CHZE CHONG, D.P.M.J., J.P. (Segamat Selatan). ENCHE' Too JooN HING (Teluk Anson). ENCHE' v. VEERAPPEN (Seberang Selatan). WAN SuLAIMAN BIN WAN TAM, P.J.K. (Kota Star Selatan). WAN YAHYA BIN HAJI WAN MOHAMED (Kemaman). ENCHE' YAHYA BIN HAJI AHMAD (Bagan Datoh). ENCHE' YONG Woo MING (Sitiawan). PUAN HAJJAH ZAIN BINTI SULAIMAN, J.M.N., P.I.S. (Pontian Selatan). TUAN HAJI ZAKARIA BIN HAJI MOHD. TAIB (Langat). ENCHE' ZULKIFLEE BIN MUHAMMAD (Bachok).

ABSENT: The Honourable the Minister without Portfolio, DATO' SULEIMAN BIN DATO' HAJI ABDUL RAHMAN, P.M.N. (Muar Selatan) (On leave). the Minister without Portfolio, DATO' ONG YOKE LIN, P.M.N. (Ulu Selangor) (On leave). the Minister of Labour and Social Welfare, ENCHE' BAHAMAN BIN SAMSUDIN (Kuala Pilah). 1563 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1564 The Honourable the Assistant Minister of Commerce and Industry. TUAN HAJI ABDUL KHALID BIN AWANG OSMAN (Kota Star Utara). ENCHE' GEH CHONG KEAT (Penang Utara). ENCHE' HUSSEIN BIN MOHD. NooRDIN, A.M.N., P.J.K. (Parit). ENCHE' KANG KOCK SENG (Batu Pahat). ENCHE' LEE SIOK YEW' A.M.N. (Sepang). TUAN HAJI MOKHTAR BIN HAJI ISMAIL (Perlis Selatan). ENCHE' QuEK KAI Do,NG, J.P. (Seremban Barat). TUAN SYED HASHIM BIN SYED AJAM, A.M.N., P.J.K. (Sabak Bernam). TUAN SYED JA'AFAR BIN HASAN ALBAR, J.M.N. (Johore Tenggara). ENCHE' TAN KEE GAK (Bandar Malacca). WAN MUSTAPHA BIN HAJI ALI (Kelantan Hilir). ENCHE' YEOH TAT BENG (Bruas).

IN ATTENDANCE: The Honourable the Minister of Justice, TUN LEONG YEW KOH, S.M.N. PRAYERS Mines Rehabilitation Fund, to prohibit the making of further (Mr Speaker in the Chair) loans from that fund, and to provide for matters incidental ADMINISTRATION thereto; OF OATH (2) to apply sums out of the Con­ The following Member made and solidated Fund for additional subscribed the Affirmation required by expenditure for the service of the Law: Enche' Abdul Razak bin Haji years 1961 and 1962 and to Russin, for Lipis. appropriate such sums for certain purposes; ANNOUNCEMENTS BY (3) to apply a sum out of the Con­ solidated Fund to the service MR SPEAKER of the year ending on the MESSAGE FROM THE SENATE thirty-first day of December, 1963; and Mr Speaker: Ahli2 Yang Berhormat, saya hendak mema'alumkan ia-itu saya (4~ to make further provision as to telah menerima satu perutusan yang the appointment of the Judges bertarikh 16 haribulan October, 1962, of Appeal. daripada Yang di-Pertua Dewan (Sgd.) DATO' ABDUL RAHMAN BIN Negara berkenaan dengan perkara2 MOHD. YASIN, yang tertentu yang telah di-hantar oleh President." Majlis ini minta di-persetujukan oleh Dewan Negara. Sekarang saya jemput Setia Usaha Majlis membachakan per­ ASSENT TO BILLS PASSED utusan itu kapada Majlis ini. Mr Speaker: Honourable Members, I (Whereupon the Clerk reads the wish to inform the House that His Message) Majesty the Yang di-Pertuan Agong "Mr Speaker, has assented to the following Bills The Senate has agreed to the which were passed recently by both following Bills without amendment: Houses of Parliament: (1) to provide for the control and (1) The Chinese Tin Mines (Re­ management of the Chinese Tin habilitation Loans) Bill, 1962. 1565 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1566 (2) The Supplementary Supply (1961 ngemaskan lagi ranchangan melateh and 1962) (No. 2) Bill, 1962. kaki2 tangan. (3) The Consolidated Fund (Ex­ Tuan Haji Azahari bin Haji Ibrahim penditure on Account) Bill, (Kubang Pasu Barat): Tuan Yang di­ 1963. Pertua, soalan tambahan. Ada-kah (4) The Judges of Appeal Bill, Yang Berhormat Menteri Kesihatan 1962. ketahui: ia-itu bidan2 di-negeri Kedah ini sangat kekurangan untok hendak di-tempatkan di-klinik2 yang hendak ORAL ANSWERS TO di-bena itu. QUESTIONS Encbe' Abdul Rahman bin Haji Talib: Mengikut keterangan yang di­ KEKURANGAN BIDAN DI­ berikan kapada saya bahawa apabila KLINIK2 KERAJAAN DI-DAERAH tamat sahaja 30 orang penuntut2 dalam KUBANG PASU, JITRA bulan March tahun 1963, keluaran bidan2 akan menchukupi untok semua 1. Datin Fatimah binti Haji Hashim 2 bertanya kapada Menteri Kesihatan klinik yang di-bena itu. ada-kah beliau sedar di-Daerah Ku­ bang Pasu, Jitra, ada beberapa buah LAPORAN JAWATAN-KUASA MENYIASAT GAJI SAMA BAGI bangunan klinik yang telah di-siapkan 2 oleh Kerajaan dalam Ranchangan Ke­ LAKI DAN PEREMPUAN majuan Luar Bandar tetapi kekura­ 2. Datin Fatimah binti Haji Hashim ngan bidan; jika beliau sedar akan hal bertanya kapada Perdana Menteri ini maka apa-kah tindakan yang akan sudah-kah Kerajaan menerima laporan di-ambil oleh Kerajaan untok menye­ daripada Jawatan-Kuasa yang di­ lesaikan masaalah kekurangan bidan tugaskan untok menyiasat gaji sama di-Daerah Kubang Pasu, Jitra. dengan kaum laki2 oleh kaum perern­ The Minister of Health (Enche' puan dalam Jawatan Kerajaan; jika Abdul Rahman bin Haji Talib): Tuan sudah, bila-kah boleh Kerajaan mem­ Yang di-Pertua, di-kawasan Kubang beri keputusan atas tuntutan yang ter­ Pasu, Jitra, ada tiga buah rumah klinik sebut. telah pun di-bena di-bawah Rancha­ The Prime Minister: Tuan Yang di­ ngan Pembangunan Luar Bandar. Sa­ Pertua, Kerajaan telah pun melantek buah daripada-nya ia-itu di-Jerlun Jawatan-Kuasa untok memereksa atas telah pun siap di-bena. Tetapi yang gaji2 kenaikkan daripada pekerja2 dua buah lagi ia-itu di-Telok Malik kaum perempuan tetapi belum lagi dan Megat Dewa maseh belum lagi di­ dapat di-sediakan laporan-nya. Sunggoh serahkan kapada Jabatan Perubatan pun bagitu saya dapat tahu bahawa oleh kerana mustahak di-adakan Jawatan-Kuasa itu telah hampir siap sadikit perubahan bagi-nya. Bidan2 menjalankan tugas-nya itu, dan tidak akan di-tempatkan di-klinik2 di-Telok berapa lama lagi saya fikir laporan itu Malik dan Megat Dewa itu apabila akan di-terima. sahaja di-sempurnakan penyerahan klinik2 itu kapada Kementerian Kesi­ DIPLOMATIC RELATIONS Wim hatan. Sa-orang bidan akan di-tem­ CUBA patkan di-klinik Jerlun dalam bulan 3. Enche' V. David asks the Prime April, 1963. Minister to state the policy of the 30 orang pelajar2 bidan akan mena­ Government on Cuba and whether the matkan latehan mereka dalam bulan Federation of Malaya intends to March tahun 1963. Bilangan ini akan establish diplomatic relations with menchukupi untok semua klinik2 yang Cuba. sedang di-bena dalam tahun 1962 di­ The Prime Minister: Mr Speaker. bawah Ranchangan Kesihatan Luar Sir, the Government doe$ recognise the Bandar bagi negeri Kedah. Langkah2 Government of Cuba, but it has very yang tegas ada-lah juga sedang di­ little diplomatic or commercial rela­ ambil untok memperluas dan me- tions with Cuba. There is no proposal ~

1567 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1568 at this moment, therefore, of estab­ to you about my very pleasant and lishing diplomatic relations with Cuba enjoyable visit to Pakistan and India. because of lack of personnel in the It would have given me the greatest Ministry. delight to convey to you my impres­ sions of those two countries, their MALAYSIA-DISCUSSION WITH warm hospitality and genuine affection PRESIDENT OF INDONESIA they have for our country and our 4. Enche' V. l>avid asks the Prime people. However, certain events of a Minister whether he intends to discuss very serious nature developed during the question of the formation of my visit to India which have far Malaysia with the President of Indo­ reaching effects, and indeed are fraught nesia. with dangers to the very existence of men and nations in Asia. I refer to the The Prime Minister: No. There is no act of aggression committed by Com­ intention of discussing the formation munist China against India. of Malaysia with the President of Indonesia. Personally, I do not think he Ever since the Communist regime would be interested in it apart from called the Peoples' Republic of China the fact that he would like to see the was proclaimed, India was amongst the end of British rule in Borneo. first country to recognise that Govern­ ment and she did so on 30th December, Enche' V. David: In case at a later 1949, with the declared objective that stage if Indonesia claims ownership of the recognition would further strengthen the Borneo territories, what will be what the Indians regarded as the Malaya's stand? immortal friendship, and would assist The Prime Minister: Well, it is really in bringing stability in Asia and the difficult to answer all these theoretical peace of the world. Very consistently questions but I dare say, if we are in India supported Communist China's possession of those territories, any entry into the United Nations. legitimate claimant to matters con­ It was evident that the Indian nected with the territories will be Government led by Mr Nehru, faithful considered by us. to his principles of Pancha Sila which advocate peaceful co-existence, CLAIM OVER SARAH-TALKS was extremely eager to embrace China WITH PRESIDENT OF as a friend. Even when Chinese troops PIDLIPPINES entered Tibet in October 1950, India 5. Enche' V. David asks the Prime very mildly remarked that such an Minister whether he will hold talks action would have adverse effects on with the President of the Philippines China's prospect of entry into the on her claim over Sabah. United Nations. The Prime Minister: Mr Speaker, In June 1954, Mr Chou En Lai Sir, the Philippines' claim over Sabah went to India on a State visit. The is a matter, as I have repeated time streets of Delhi were packed by millions and again, between the British Govern­ of people chanting a welcome to Chou ment and the Philippines Government. "China-India Bhai ! Bhai ! "-in Hindi If desired by the President while I am "China and India are brothers." Soon in the Philippines for the ASA talks, after, signs began to appear that Com­ I will be only too happy to discuss the munist China was interested in claiming matter with the President, but it must certain Indian territories. Mr Nehru be understood that if I do so, I will do visited Communist China in October it in my own personal capacity. the same year and raised the matter of maps being published in Communist STATEMENT BY PRIME China showing Chinese boundary MINISTER which included approximately 50,000 Sino-Indian Border Dispute square miles of Indian territory. Mr The Prime Minister: Mr Speaker, Sir, Chou En Lai dismissed the matter as when I stand up before you today it trivial and attributed it to Kuomin­ would have been my preference to talk tang's old maps being reproduced "" '~·,,. .. < : ~ . \;,.

1569 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1570 without revision and without their accordingly." India was not conditioned knowledge. to the kind of double dealing-that is After that a systematic intrusion into according to the Indians-and sincerely Indian territories took place. The believed that she had no quarrel with Indian Government made the usual China. Chou's departure from India demarche but of no avail. Sporadic had drawn Indian cheers, "India-China incursions took place to the extent that Bhai, Bhai ! " roads were actually constructed on the We, too, in Malaya thought that Indian soil. In January 1959, the Com­ Communist China was India's friend. munist Chinese Government officially You can well imagine the surprise and laid claim to 50,000 square miles as shock which we share with the Indians, shown in the map which was supposed when the Chinese Communists launched to have been drawn up by the their attacks against India on October Kuomintang-and that, as you will 20th. realise, is exactly the size of our own Mr Speaker, Sir, as I said just now, country. I was in India when this shameful The Chinese duplicity in the matter aggression took place. There was a became more pronounced. The Dalai sense of bewilderment in India. The Lama was driven out of Tibet and was general public was at first confused but given political asylum in India. The later gathered themselves and took Chinese raised serious objections. stock of the whole situation. The line Chinese military action against India began to veer from that of friendly began to be intensified and members disposition towards a feeling of bitter of the Indian armed forces in the disappointment and frustration. There frontiers were taken prisoners by the was much soul-searching, and I could , Chinese. At this stage in November feel the sense of hopeless indecision 1959, the Indian Government offered to at that time. The newspapers' reactioft withdraw their troops in the Western was one of caution in the hope that sector to the line which Communist matters might yet be patched up. The Chjna claimed, provided Communist Government was still hopeful that ill China would withdraw to the line of spite of such gross attack India was their traditional boundary, and that a still prepared to retain friendly rela­ peaceful solution should be sought to tions and that this border clash might settle the question of the difference in be localised, and that it would end in regard to the boundary. This was a round table talk. The border clash objected to by Communist China which had developed into almost a war, but even moved still further and built roads diplomatic relations had not ruptured and army posts in the Indian territory. and there was still hope that it might In April 1960, Mr Chou En Lai be settled. But I saw India unprepared. visited New Delhi. Mr Nehru was She was not ready militarily and unable to thaw Chou's obduracy on psychologically for a large scale war the border claims. But the Indian or invasion. Her best army was con­ people were still hopeful that the centrated in the lndo-Pakistan border. so-called traditional friendship could be She never expected that she was going preserved. Indian newspapers comment­ to be the victims of aggression from ing after the Nehru-Chou meeting China. She was watching out for almost in one voice said, "China and Pakistan. Least of all, she never India have every reason to remain thought that Pancha Sila, which Com­ friendly for tens of thousands of years" munist China had acclaimed and ad­ and "it is not impossible to find hered to in Bandung, would be common point or points of proximity debauched. Peaceful co-existence was over the border question." Chou En a principle to be respected by Com­ Lai in following his policy of dissimu­ munist China only according to lation had the audacity to say at that Communist conception of it. time that "Friendly countries should Let us now ask ourselves as to why negotiate for a final delineation of their Communist China should behave the boundaries and revise their maps way she did. I think the main reason "

1571 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1572 is that Communist China, an ardent do not believe that Communism and follower of Stalinism, cannot afford to democracy can co-exist peacefully. see India succeed in her effort to because it is contrary to the tenets of advance politically in the path of demo­ communism. It is the avowed aim of cracy and establishing herself as leader communism to destroy democracy. It is of Asia. According to Communist the avowed aim of communism to China, India co.uld be tolerated so long expand and control not only nations as she does not usurp the position but lives and souls of men in an of being top Asian country. That must imperialism more terrible and sinister belong to Communist China with her than any which history has ever vast fighting resources. But India was recorded. I told Chin Peng so when he showing progress. Democracy was met me in Baling, and he was honest after all becoming more than an experi­ enough to admit it-and now we know. ment. Admittedly, progress has been Mr Speaker, Sir, having been able slow but in the light of her gigantic to gauge the feelings of the people of problems India had made large strides India, I told them in one of my since her Independence in 1947. If the speeches that the communist attack was Indian experiment succeeded, other a glaring red signal of danger to non­ countries in Asia would adopt the communist Asia. I told the Indians, Indian model of democracy instead of and I shall repeat here-and others may the Communist China's totalitarian differ from me-that to my mind the regime. India must, therefore, be cut Chinese communists are out to capture down to size and humiliated. In this the hearts and minds and imagination way wavering countries can be brought of the whole of Asia with the hope into the fold of communism. Anti­ that in a show of strength all Asia will communist countries can be brought to look up to Communist China through their senses and subdued, and beaten fear. As I said, China can no longer Communist forces in these latter coun­ tolerate the existence of a great rival. tries can take courage for fresh They intend to topple democratic rebellion, for ardent followers of governments wherever they are found Marxism believe only in revolution. It and to replace them with communist is a well-known fact that relations regimes completely subservient to between China and Russia are none Peking. There is no need to mince too well at this stage. Krushchev, words about the seriousness of their having debunked Stalin, accepted the thought and intention. This attack on principle of co-existence. Mao Tse­ India is not just a border clash. The Tung, on the other hand, only paid lip picture is ghastly serious. Countries big service but did not consider it a good or small must sit up and take notice. policy. Like Stalin, Mao would prefer They must prepare for worse things to a show of strength rather than the come. method of quiet infiltration through the myopia of peaceful co-existence. I was tremendously impressed with Furthermore, Russia must be proved what I saw in India during her hour wrong in the belief that India was of trials and tribulations. The ardent neutral. With this attack, and the quick patriotism of the people in every walk response made by the Western powers of life, rallying to the call of their to come to the aid of India, Commu­ President and their Prime Minister, nist China, according to them, have convinced me that India will. face this ample proof that India was not so grim struggle with determination. If neutral after all, and that there was no she knuckles under, the fate of other such thing as neutrality in the bigger non-communist countries in Asia is conflict between communism and de­ doomed. mocracy. In this case, India became At that early stage of my visit all the guinea pig in the search for truth that I could give India was Malaya's between Russia and China. warmest and strongest sympathy for India. But half an hour before my We, in Malaya, at least agree with speech in the State banquet, given in Communist China in this respect. We my honour in Delhi, I received a '~ ....

1573 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1574 message from Kuala Lumpur to the where the second most populous com­ effect that the Government of the Fede­ munity was Chinese, it was of great ration of Malaya was in full sympathy significance. To this my reply was that with the Indian cause, but our Govern­ our decision to uphold the Indian cause ment reiterated its hope that the has no reference whatsoever to any of present trouble might be resolved by the communal groups in Malaya. I negotiations and peaceful means on have regarded the people of Malaya as terms acceptable to India. It was Malayans. Therefore, the only signifi­ accepted that India was the victim. cance of our action is not because there Indeed Tun Abdul Razak, acting for is a large Chinese community or me in Kuala. Lumpur, on behalf of the Indian community in Malaya, but that Government, said that "We will cer­ the Malayans are quick to perceive the tainly offer to India something much communist challenge tQI democracy and more than sympathy in this her gravest to our way of life, and our duty was hour." I assured them at the banquet therefore to respond to India's call for that Malaya is a small country but in help. whatever form or in whatever way we I left India with a very heavy heart, can help India in her most trying because I had just witnessed a country moment, the moment she was faced being stabbed in the back by a so­ with defence of her national honour, called friend and neighbour, whose we will be only too happy to do so. cause she had espoused everywhere and for the sake of peace and amity. Our forthright stand and our unhesi­ India, as I left it, was being over-run tating support for India received very by hordes of people, who have no wide publicity and favourable reaction respect for or belief in God or man. It in India. When, referring to my various is her curious fate that India must speeches, newspapers commented that suffer this unjustified and naked aggres­ no words of encouragement could be sion from one whom she has always. timelier. One leading newspaper said, regarded as a friend. "India owes him a lasting debt of gratitude for his forcefully expressed In retrospect I felt grateful that I sympathy." Another commented that was in India at a momentous time, there was a profound truth in my when she was faced with a grave and warning as our Malayan Government serious danger. I need not have to had to deal with a violent communist imagine the effect of the communist activity for many years before it could action which had stirred the whole be suppressed. They remarked that I nation to its depths. I am convinced did not suffer from an imaginary that India is determined to redeem her communist phobia and that according honour and prestige. to them our analysis is the more We, sitting in the cool comfort of relevant, because we as a small nation this Parliament, might feel that the of Asia can see better what a com­ Sino-Indian affair is remote and that munist Chinese success would mean in it has nothing to do with us. To those a conflict of ideologies. I was parti­ who subscribe to that view or to that cularly struck by the comment made idea, I say that they are not aware of by one Indian newspaper which said the true nature of the Communist that if I had made a similar speech menace. Any success of the Com­ some years ago about the Chinese munists in the Indian border warfare motives it would have been sceptically would only tempt the communists in received in India. "Much has. happened our country to start trouble afresh. We since then. Much experience has been must, therefore, be vigilant. Any out­ packed in the last few weeks", says break of communist trouble here would the same paper. One Indian newspaper, throw us back many, many years. All welcoming the support given by Malaya the progress we have made so far or to India, commented that the forthright since Independence would suffer a stand taken by us on Chinese aggres­ serious set-back. A war in India would sion was so heart-warming. It further bring about a serious repercussion in stated that coming from a country all the Asian countries which, since t;1t.

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Independence, have been trying to set kilometres north of the "illegal" their houses in order. The crisis in McMahon Line, which means 20 India is also a challenge to the entire kilometres north of the North East free world. Frontier Agency. They will set up also So, when I returned to Kuala "check posts on its side of the Line of Lumpur, I at once consulted my col­ actual control with a certain number leagues on the initial help which we of civil police assigned tQ each check­ might be able to give India at this post", i.e. within the 20 kilometre wide stage, rememberin~ that this is a. battle zone between the McMahon Line and between democracy and communist the main Chinese forces. If India ag,rees totalitarianism. If India, the biggest to take parallel action, Indian troops democratic country in Asia, were will find themselves 20 kilometres humiliated and at the same time given South of the McMahon Line, which the cold shoulder by her friends in her has always been the Sino-Indian hour of need, democracy in Asia would boundary. Moreover, in the middle and suffer a heavy and, perhaps, a mortal western sectors, a 20 kilometre with­ blow; and we will see the end of demo­ drawal by the Chinese from the cracy in this part of the world. The November 7, 1959 line of actual smaller Asian countries by not support­ control will mean that the Chinese will ing democracy would not save them­ still be within the Indian frontier, selves-on the contrary, 'their efforts to particularly in Ladakh, where the appease the communist dragon would Communist Chinese have occupied a only help to seal their own fate more vast area and where they have built a certainly. Like Hitlerite Germany in long military road. the 1930s, Communist China would Mr Speaker, Sir, you will have swallow up the smaller countries one observed that this recent action by the by one. As I see it, therefore, it is Communist Government is a political Malaya's duty to stand by democratic offensive aimed at isolating India from India since this would not only be Afro-Asian sympathy and support, morally correct but also a sound prac­ since Communist China must have tical measure, and one in keeping with realised that it would be extremely our policy. difficult, if not impossible, for India to On the 21st November, Peking fall in with this typical communist issued a. statement announcing a cease­ tactic, commonly referred to as a fire which would be carried out by the "peace offensive". In this respect Chinese Communist forces with effect Peking can be expected to seize upon from zero hours on the 22nd Novem­ any sympathy for the Chinese plan and ber, "along the entire Sino-Indian interpret it as support for Communist border". The statement also announced China against India. Such sympathy, that beginning from the 1st December, even if motivated by a genuine desire 1962, the Chinese Communists would for peace, is likely to play into the "withdraw to positions 20. kilometres hands of Communist imperialism. behind the line of actual control which By launching a peace offensive existed between China and India on immediately after a succession of the 7th November, 1959". I am circula­ Communist Chinese military victories, ting a copy of the official New China China has forced India to a Robson's News Agency English translation of choice. If India falls in line with the the Chinese text of the statement. peace offensive she would have to The unilateral Chinese Communist surrender a large part of India-her decision to effect a cease-fire and a humiliation will be complete ; if she "withdrawal" does not appear to be a rejects it, she will be faced with the clean bill, since it enables the Com­ charges that she wants to make a pact munists to retain large chunks of Indian with Imperialist West for a war against territory, particularly in the Ladakh another great Asian nation. She will be area in the Western sector. branded "tool of Western imperialism". The Communist Chinese claim that It is therefore with a deep sense of they are prepared to withdraw 20 gloom that I see the immediate future 1577 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1578 of the situation. I must confess that result of this attack on India. I am I am not at all optimistic with the happy to say that the Save Democracy prospect of India accepting the Chinese Fund has met with good response. The offer although we cannot deny that it money comes from all the right is a matter for India alone to decide. thinking citizens of this country. In Personally, I feel that a small sacrifice this conflict between two great nations for the sake of peace is perhaps a good of the world, our only hope and prayer thing. is that it must be settled by peaceful means. If the conflict were to develop Malaya's policy is that there should into a war, that will be the end of be peace and there must be peace, and Asian civilisation. It would then not we have all along taken this line in be just a question of a war between the United Nations and elsewhere. China and India. You can call this But our first desire is that there trouble a dispute, but to the best of must be peace on terms favourable to my knowledge some thousands of lives India, who must be considered as the have already been sacrificed on both victim of aggression. As I stand up in sides. Many millions of dollars of this Parliament so many things are property have already been destroyed. happening between the two countries. Many hundreds of schools in the Events are moving so swiftly and so troubled spots have been closed and fast that it is difficult to keep pace thousands of school children have been with them. Any message from our driven out, and are now trudging their High Commissioner becomes stale news way across the mountainous ridges for when it gets here. India is still con­ safety-not only that, but in some sidering the peace move by China. cases they have had to be separated American and British missions are from their families, from fathers and already in India. An Indian Minister mothers. These people will get the has already made a statement which money collected here. So, the more we you might have already read in the can do for all these people, the less papers. I, therefore, cannot give you they will suffer. any report on developments, for if I were to do so I would find myself I call the money collected here the behind with the news. India has "Save Democracy Fund" just for want received the sympathy of the free world of a better name. The reason for and Malaya is no exception, because Malaya's involvement is our love for to us it is not just India that has been Democracy and our sympathies for attacked but democracy is endangered. those thousands of human beings, who are suffering as a result of the aggres­ There are not many countries in this sion. It is my hope and prayer that the part of the world which practise Malayan people should not consider democracy, and the form of democracy themselves involved in this affair on practised in India is identical with that any other ground than humane, and which is practised in Malaya. If India's our love for the democratic way of democracy is toppled, it will only be a life. The last thing I would like is to question of time before Malaya herself see the Malayan people taking sides by will go under. This is the only way of reason of the fact that they originated life that we in Malaya understand and from India or from China. Malaya's cherish; and it is our intention to live solidarity and happiness depend entirely this life. In our humble way we must on the loyalty of all her people, no respond to India's call for help. We are matter where they came from ; and any a country which is ill-equipped to fight, trouble between one race and another either by means of force or by giving would only hamper Malaya's progress military aid. So, the only way which and disturb the harmony which we we can help India is to help her with have enjoyed so well and for so long. money. Money which we are assured If the people of Malaya feel, as I do, will be used for peaceful humane that this aggression is a threat to purposes, such as feeding and clothing democracy and a challenge to our way the thousands of refugees, who have of life, then I ask them to contribute been driven from their homes as a towards this Fund-but under no 1579 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1580 circumstances must anybody impute the Statement was made. You can only any motive to what I am doing now, do that the next day at the next sitting for if they do so it is they who are of the House. trying to confuse the issue thereby causing trouble among the peaceful Now, I think this is the best time to citizens in this country. Some irrespon­ suspend the sitting of the House for sible politicians have already started 15 minutes. to make wild accusations against me Sitting suspended at 11.00 a.m. with no other objective than to put me up to hatred and contempt. I pin my Sitting resumed at 11.15 a.m. faith on the people, whom it is my privilege to lead these number of years, (Mr. Speaker in the Chair) to believe in me and to know that what I am doing is the right thing. You must EARLIBR RESUMPTION share with me our deepest sympathies (MOTION) for India and her determination to The Deputy Prime Minister (Tun Haji uphold the democratic way of life in Abdul Razak): Mr Speaker, Sir, I beg which India and ourselves have so to move- much in common. At the same time That, notwithstanding the provision of let us pray for peace (Applause). Standing Order 12 (1), this House at its rising at 1.00 p.m. today shall stand suspended and Enche' D. R. Seenivasagam (lpoh): shall resume at 2.45 p.m. and continue until Mr Speaker, Sir, I rise under Standing 4.45 p.m. Order 100 to ask the guidance of the This motion, Sir, is merely to enable Chair whether on this very important the Minister of Finance to move his statement of international importance Budget Speech this afternoon. and of local public interest this House will be given the opportunity to debate The Minister of Finance (Encbe' Tan it. Siew Sin): Sir, I beg to second the motion. Mr Speaker: What Standing Order is that? Question put, and agreed to. Enche' D. R. Seenivasagam: Standing Resolved, Order 100. It is an all-embracing Order That, notwithstanding the provision of which states that where no specific Standing Order 12 (1), this House at its rising provisions are made, you, Mr Speaker, at 1.00 p.m. today shall stand suspended and shall resume at 2.45 p.m. and continue until Sir, may make some observations. I 4.45 p.m. would like to appeal to the Govern­ ment Bench to move a motion under BILLS PRESENTED the appropriate Standing Order to allow a debate on this matter of public THE NATIONAL LANGUAGE importance. BILL Mr Speaker: I have already ruled Bill to provide for the script of the that in the first instance this does not national language and for the form of apply-Standing Order 100 does not numerals of the national language and apply. You can always move the for purposes incidental thereto; pre­ adjournment of the House under sented by the Prime Minister; read the Standing Order. first time; to be read a second time at a subsequent meeting of the House. Encbe' D. R. Seenivasagam: I cannot. It was amended to say that THE MERDEKA STADIUM only a Minister can do so under CORPORATION BILL Standing Order 14. Bill to establish the Merdeka Stadium Mr Speaker: Under Standing Order Corporation and to provide for pur­ 14 there is provision for request for poses incidental thereto ; presented by leave to move the adjournment of the the Prime Minister; read the first time ; House on matters of urgent public to be read a second time at a . sub­ importance. That should be done before sequent meeting of the House. 1581 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1582 THE SUPPLY BILL read the first time ; to be read a second time at a subsequent sitting of the Bill to apply a sum out of the Conso­ House. lidated Fund to the service of the year 1963 and to appropriate that sum and such other sums as have been autho­ THE FISHERIES BILL rised to be issued for the service of Bill to consolidate and amend the law that year; presented by the Minister relating to fisheries and to make provi­ of Finance; read the first time ; to be sions for matters incidental thereto; read a second time this afternoon. presented by the Minister of Agricul • ture and Co-operatives ; read the first time; to be read a second time at a THE INSURANCE BILL subsequent sitting of the House. Bill to provide for the regulation of insurance business in the Federation and for other purposes relating to or MOTION connected with insurance ; presented by the Minister of Finance ; read the first WAKTU PERSIDANGAN time; to be read a second time at a MESHUARAT subsequent sitting of the House. The Deputy Prime Minister (Tun Haji Abdul Razak): Tuan Yang di-Pertua, THE KIDNAPPING BILL saya menchadangkan: Bahawa menurut shara:t2 dalam Bill to make further provision for the perenggan (1) dalam Peratoran Meshua­ choosing of assessors in trials under rat 12, Majlis ini memerentahkan section 3 (2) of the Kidnapping Act, ia-itu dalam meshuarat sekarang ini 1961; presented by the Minister of the sharat2- Interior ; read the first time ; to be read a second time at a subsequent sitting (a) perenggan-kechil (a) dalam pe­ of the House. renggan (1) hendak-lah di-faham­ kan sa-ola:h2 perkataan "atau hari Khamis" itu ma'ana-nya THE ADVOCATES AND "hari Khamis atau hari Sabtu" ; SOLICITORS (AMENDMENT) (b) perenggan (3) hendak-lah di­ BILL fahamkan sa-olah2 perkataan "hari Juma'at" itu ma'ana-nya Bill to amend the .Advocates and "hari Sabtu". Solicitors Ordinance, 1947; presented by the Minister of the Interior ; read Tuan Yang di-Pertua, menurut pe­ the first time ; to be read a second time renggan 12 (3) dalam Peratoran Meshua­ at a subsequent sitting of the House. rat apabila Dewan ini tamat persi­ dangan pada hari Juma'at, maka Dewan ini di-tanggohkan sa-hingga THE CRIMINAL PROCEDURE hari Ithnin. Akan tetapi, oleh sebab CODES(AMENDMENT)BILL dalam persidangan ini ada beberapa perkara yang mustahak hendak di­ Bill to amend the Criminal Procedure binchangkan yang akan mengambil Codes; presented by the Minister of masa yang lanjut, terutama sa:-kali the Interior ; read the first time ; to be berkenaan dengan Rang Undang2 read a second time at a subsequent Perbekalan dan Development Esti­ sitting of the House. mates, maka telah di-fikirkan mustahak Dewan ini bersidang pada hari Sabtu juga. Oleh sebab itu, saya menchadang­ THE POST OFFICE kan usu! ini. (AMENDMEN1) BILL The Minilter of Internal Security Bill to amend the Post Office Ordinance, (Dato' Dr Ismail bin Dato' Haji Abdul 1947; presented by the Minister of Rahman): Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya Woi;ks, Posts and Telecommunications; mohon menyokong usul ini. 1583 . :~ 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1584 ~Jj! Question put, and agreed to. also because ultimately it is designed to enable that law to be assimilated Resolved: into a single system applicable to all Bahawa menurut sharat2 dalam perenggan eleven States in the Federation of (1) dalam Peratoran Meshuarat 12, Majlis ini memerentahkan ia-itu dalam meshuarat seka­ Malaya. rang ini sharat2- This is the end and clearly an end (a) perenggan-kechil (a) dalam perenggan (1) hendak-lah di-fahamkan sa-olah2 of the greatest moment to this House. perkataan "atau hari Khamis" itu It is the declared policy of this Govern­ ma'ana-nya "hari Khamis atau hari ment to enact a National Land Code Sabtu"; and it is only reasonable that it should (b) perenggan (3) hendak-lah di-fahamkan accept the responsibility for this earlier sa-olah2 perkataan "hari Juma'at" itu measure which-even if it cannot pro­ ma'ana-nya "hari Sabtu". perly be termed as a first instalment of a National Code-is nevertheless an essential preliminary to its introduction. THE NATIONAL LAND CODE (PENANG AND MALACCA Honourable Members will no doubt TITLES) BILL have observed that this Bill is of considerable length and complexity. Second Reading This complexity results from the intricacies of the existing land laws in Tun Haji Abdul Razak: Mr Speaker, this country and for the assistance of Sir, I beg to move that a Bill intituled this House I propose to give a very the National Land Code (Penang and brief summary of the present position Malacca Titles) Act be read a second as regards land laws in this country. time. Sir, this morning this House had the Within the Federation of Malaya opportunity of listening to the Honour­ there are at present two separate land able Prime Minister on a very serious systems entirely different in form and and grave matter of vital international conflicting in effect. These I trust I importance and this afternoon the may be allowed, for simplicity of House will be able to listen to the reference, to all the Federated Malay Honourable Minister of Finance on a States or "F.M.S. System" and the very important domestic matter. But Straits Settlements or "S.S. System" as the matter that I propose to introduce these are the terms commonly used in to this House, though of not such vital the Land Offices. As Honourable importance and such urgency, but Members are aware, these two political nevertheless is one that affects the lives units have now disappeared from our of our people and one of great import­ scene. ance to the people now living in Penang A majority of members will, I expect, and Malacca. have sollle acquaintance with the This Bill applies to the States of F.M.S. system since substantially it is Penang and Malacca alone and at first followed in all the nine Malay States. sight it might be considered to deal The F.M.S. Land Code is a clear and with domestic matters which could concise statement, in a convenient quite well be left to the Legislatures of fornt, of the entire law relating to land, the States concerned. Indeed, even that is: though it may be enacted Federally the law relating to land tenure-the this Bill will still need to be approved conditions on which title is held by those Legislatures before it can from Government; come into operation. However, the Governments of both the States of the law relating to dealing in land­ Penang and Malacca have agreed to the transactions which can be the introduction of the Bill into this effected, leases, charges, etc; and House not merely because it is a finally measure which will promote uniformity the law relating to registration­ in the land law of those two States but both of the title and of tho dealings. .'

1585 28 NOVEMBER 1962 ~ '*\ ., 1586 ·~ The last item from the public stand­ Although, in the S.S. as in tho former point is perhaps the most important of F.M.S, the basis of land title is a grant the three; it provides : by the State, in the S.S. the document of (i) that a document of title clearly title has never been used as a register of defining the land is filed in the subsequent dealings and the only infor­ Registry, and mation to be obtained from it is the (ii) that upon that title all sub­ name of the original owner-who may, sequent sales and other by now, have been dead for a century­ transactions in the land are and-a-half. registered. Further, in the S.S. system, the process of conveyancing, by which At any moment therefore inspection change of ownership-or other dealing in the Registry shows not only every in land-is effected, is, to my mind, the detail of the terms and conditions of reverse of simple. the original title but the names of the At the time of a sale the purchaser present proprietor and of all other receives from the vendor a deed of persons who have interests in the land conveyance, which is in fact the only such as leases or charges. record that a sale has taken place and Now by contrast the S.S. system­ the only proof ·that the new purchaser still current in Penang and Malacca­ is now the owner. For every subsequent is lacking in clarity and definition and sale the same process is repeated so is not embodied in any single statute that, after a number of transactions, nor indeed completely embodied even there will be a whole chain of such in the existing series of statutes. It conveyances-or title deeds as they are derives partly from the English called-by which successive owners common law-and to that extent, as have received title from their immediate Honourable and learned Members of predecessors. To be sure that a current this House are aware, is unwritten­ owner of land has a good title every and partly also from statutes and link in this chain must be checked; a practices which have been enacted or search back from vendor to vendor­ have grown up over the centuries in which in law must be taken back England. 30 years or more-requires the services Admittedly the "Straits Settlements" of a qualified conveyancing lawyer but have never copied the latest English only after it is done is there satisfactory statutes of the year 1926 by which the proof that any owner has a good title. law there was radically revised but the In short, in Penang and Malacca, advantage of doing so would in any all connection between present owner­ case have been doubtful. The fact ship and the original title issued by the remains that, whether amended or not, State has been completely obscured the peculiarities of the English Law and, currently, proof of title rests, of Property do not make it a body of neither in a document of title issued by law at all suitable for application to the State nor in an official register of Malayan conditions. dealings but solely on the evidence of a series of private documents. Its weaknesses-and correspondingly Further, before any purchaser can the weaknesses of the Straits Settle­ be satisfied that he is buying a good ments system-are particularly marked title, this series of private documents in the very fields in which the F.M.S. requires expert scrutiny, and since this system is strong, viz. simplicity of scrutiny must be repeated for each dealing and clarity of record. successive transaction the practice of A clear running record of title and conveyancing entails a formidable of interests in land, such as exists in expenditure of time, labour and money. the F.M.S., may seem so obvious a Therefore, the whole S.S. system must requirement that Honourable Members be regarded as cumbersome and may be surprised to learn that there is outmoded. absolutely no corresponding method of Therefore, Mr Speaker, Sir, having registration in Penang and Malacca. agreed that these defects did exist in 1587 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1588 the S.S. system of law, what should This then is the guiding principle of be done to put right these defects? the Bill. All that is old or dubious or The remedy is to convert the S.S. redundant is extinguished and, in re­ system to one of the F .M.S. type, and placement, new, clear and simple to do this we need to do two things : documents and procedures are brought (1) To restore the basic value of into being, This double process will the State document of title. take place automatically by operation of the provisions of the Bill on the day (2) To use that document as a that they are brought into force. register for subsequent transac­ tions. Accordingly, on that appointed day, new "replacement" titles will come into To restore the value of the original existence confirming to present land­ documents of title in Penang and owners the rights they enjoyed under Malacca is however not a simple their title deeds immediately before matter. In the past two centuries the that day, and from the appointed day forms of title issued have been many onwards all further transactions in and varied-in Dutch and in English, such land will be done not by con­ printed and manuscript, legible and veyance but by memoranda of dealing illegible. Many of the oldest titles are substantially in the former F.M.S. form. lost, many more are badly preserved, stained and decayed, many more, again, Mr Speaker, Sir, I hope I have not do not correspond with any present­ unduly tried the patience of this House day boundaries. As I have already said, by giving this somewhat technical des­ the original State documents bear little cription of the basic defects of the relatiQil to present-day realities. present system, of the difficulties which have to be overcome, and of the solu­ Since we are faced with the position tions we propose. that (i) it is impossible to adopt the original State documents of title as the I have tried to deal with all these basis of a Register, and (ii) that the matters in the very broadest terms and true legal title is proved not by such Honourable Members will no doubt be State document but by a packet of releived to hear that I do not intend private conveyances-the title deeds, it to take them step by step through the has been decided that the only reason­ Bill to study the detailed provisions able way to proceed now is to which give effect to these broad prin­ extinguish the original State documents ciples. These actual provisions are, as of title and to replace them by new I have said, highly complex and the documents embodying the legal title method of conversion from one system as proved by those title deeds. to another is not always easy to follow. These new documents will confirm However, every effort has been made not only the legal title of the landowner to explain these complexities in the but also all other rights or interests, e.g. very full Explanatory Statement which leases, charges, etc., appearing in the has been added to the Bill, and those deeds. The title deeds themselves will Members who have a special interest thus become redundant in their tum on this subject will, I know, have and they also will be extinguished. already made a study of that Statement. In one respect only do I wish to Sir, I would add that the new re­ enlarge upon a specific provision of the placement documents of title will not Bill and that because it relates to an relate to the original land-boundaries entirely original measure for which I but will be issued with respect to the parcels as now surveyed, since it is consider it only right that we should according to these parcels or holdings claim credit. This measure is the actual that dealings in lands have been effected procedure by which the problem of by conveyance over the last 30 years or introducing a system of registration of more. Subsequent dealings, according title has been solved. to normal F.M.S. practice, will be Registration of title in some form registered on the replacement titles. has been introduced into almost all 1589 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1590 countries in which the land system, as This Interim Register is indeed the in Penang and Malacca, is derived cardinal feature of the whole Bill. from the English law-for example, Not only will it provide a permanent the Australian States, New Zealand record of the state of title on the and other Commonwealth countries. In appointed day-a photograph, as it all these countries, however, conversion were, of the situation established by the to the system of registration of title old system of conveyancing immediately has been on a piecemeal basis-that before that system was extinguished­ is, title by title-and lands which the and a record of subsequent dealings, Registrar has not yet investigated but it will also be the foundation on remain unregistered and continue to be which the new documents of titles will conveyed according to the old system. ultimately be issued. Such a method of conversion has two great disadvantages : The initial entries in the Interim Register will evidence a title no better (i) It is extremely slow-in some and no worse than that appearing in countries even after 70 years' the title deeds but the final documents, work conversion is still far from issued after investigation, will be being completed, and guaranteed by Government and will be (ii) it is necessary to retain two indefeasible to the same extent as are entirely different land systems all National Land Code titles. side by side; this is a cause of Now, Sir, since investigation of title inconvenience, . confusion and requires meticulous care, and may expense. well prove a slow process, we have For these reasons we have, in this further made the novel provision that Bill, ignored all precedent and, instead, entries in the Interim Register, if not have devised a method of conversion investigated earlier, become indefeas­ which is entirely new and original. ible by operation of this Bill on the expiration of 12 years-the period after In discussing the guiding principle which the making of adverse claims is of the Bill I made it clear that replace­ barred by the Limitations Ordinance. ment titles will come into operation on In other words, the conversion from the appointed day and that from then the old title to new will be completed on all dealings will be registered upon in 12 years-and I think Honourable these titles. Members will agree that this is a most The new and original feature of this notable reduction of the period of 70 conversion lies in the form which or 80 years found necessary elsewhere. the replacement titles will take. However, in one case investigation Obviously, it is not possible to issue is to be mandatory. Where sub-division overnight new documents of title for a is proposed, it is considered desirable hundred thousand holdings, but it is in the public interest that title should possible to compile instead as we are be proved before, for example, a doing now a special register of known developer sub-divides into a hundred "title" to land. small parcels. Prior investigation is This special register, created by the required not only to reduce adminis­ Bill, is to be known as the Interim trative work-it is clearly easier to Register, and in it, folio by folio, there examine one original title than hundreds will be entered details of the ownership of sub-divisional titles arising from it­ of every piece of land and all known but also to facilitate the whole process interests therein as these appeared in of sale and purchase. It is considered official records and in title deeds imme­ that the "small man" making his first diately prior to the appointed day. entry into land-ownership in order, Each folio of the Interim Register will probably, to build a small family house be the statutory replacement title to the should from the first receive a piece of land entered thereon and on guaranteed title. it will be registered all dealings with Now, Sir, above I have given the the land after the appointed day. merest outline of the novel system of 1591 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1592 conversion embodied in the Bill, and need for complicated and expensive Honourable Members who require search through prior documents. greater elaboration must, I am afraid, Thirdly, the title to the land the turn to the Explanatory Statement. Be­ rights of all persons holding leases or cause I have not detailed all the circum­ charges will be indefeasible. stances for which provision has been made, I do not wish it to be thought that Finally, and this is a matter of major the Bill ignores difficulties or fails to importance, registration and all admi­ provide every proper safeguard for the nistration with regard to rural small­ rights of land-owners and other interes­ holdings will ultimately be decentralised ted parties. Here, I can only sum up by to the districts and the people will no saying that the method to be adopted longer require tQ travel to the State is not only original and without prece­ Capital and engage legal assistance dent but it is, I claim, imaginative and before they can effect any dealing. simple. It is also most convenient for However, lest Honourable Members the land-owners affected, since it calls and members of the public obtain too for no action on their part unless they optimistic a view of the immediate ad­ themselves conceive that their titles are vantages of this Bill, I must stress that dubious. No man will need to make these full benefits cannot be achieved any formal application for a new title in a day. To convert, after approxi­ and no man will need to postpone even mately a century-and-a-half of separate for a day the normal processes of life, the titles and the system of tenure purchase and sale, leasing and mort­ and of dealing found in Penang and gaging. Malacca to those current in the To this general rule there is only remainder of the Federation is clearly one exception-that of mandatory in­ a formidable task and the introduction vestigation of title in cases of sub­ of the Interim Register takes us only division. I have already explained that half of the way to the final goal. the reason for this provision is to However, immediately upon the facilitate development, not obstruct it, appointed day, notable advances are and I assure this House that in imple­ made. Although prior title will still menting that provision we shall hold need to be examined before dealings firmly to the spirit and to the intention. are effected, the method of dealing will Mr Speaker, Sir, before I move to henceforth be by simple registration of my conclusion, I should like to refer memoranda. Further, although a final again to the remarks I made at the guaranteed document of title cannot be beginning, because in them I stressed issued at once, nevertheless, every land­ our desire for uniformity, and I had owner by being recorded in the Interim better make it clear that this does not Register will from the appointed day proceed from any mere doctrinaire be protected against the loss of his land preference. Uniformity as secured by by adverse possession. this Bill will bring many solid advan­ Finally, the ultimate goal of com­ tages to everyone owning or dealing in plete conversion must inevitably be land in Penang and Malacca. reached in 12 years and no more. First, once the work of conversion Now, Mr Speaker, Sir, there is one to the new system is completed, every final matter which I touched on in my man owning land will hold a single opening remarks and which l feel I clear document of title, guaranteed by should elaborate. This Bill, as its title Government, setting out both for his implies, anticipates the enacting of a information and for the information National Land Code and, indeed, in the of all people concerned all the condi­ whole form of its drafting, it is implicit tions and other interests affecting the that its provisions need to be comple­ land. mented by those of such a Code: Secondly, every person will be able Honourable Members will have noted to deal in land by a simple registration the various references made to the of stereotyped memoranda without the National Code in the text of the Bill. 1593 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1594 Nevertheless, if necessary, it would still arrangements contemplated by the Bill be possible to implement this Bill and that, if found necessary, this Bill independently by means of the special will be amended in the light of provisions that if the National Land experience gained in its administration. Code has not been enacted, then the F.M.S. Land Code, modified as may As Honourable Members will ob­ be necessary, may bei substituted for it. serve, clauses 117 and 119 of the Bill enable the Minister, in consulta­ Such a device is somewhat inelegant tion with the Governor, to make orders and cumbersome and will be avoided, dealing with these transitional provi­ if it is at all possible to enact a National sions, and I would now like to give Land Code early. Work upon a prelimi­ an assurance to this House that I nary draft is already well advanced, shall certainly not exercise these but since a Code affects all the eleven powers except after consultation with States of the Federation, and since land the respective Bar Committees. That is essentially a State matter, and so many of the members of these not a Federal matter, it is neces­ Committees have been prepared to sary to have prior consultations study and to accept the principles of with all the States before a Bill is this Bill. and shown their willingness introduced into this House. However, to carry its principles into practice is, I can assure Honourable Members that I think, a tribute to the vitality and I will do my best to ensure the early public spirit of the Bar. completion of such a Code, for the Government regards such a measure as Last but not least, I wish to pay a essential to the orderly development of tribute to certain residents in the the country. Indeed, without a uniform neighbouring State of Singapore-I land law and a vigorous land refer to the Registrar of Titles and to administration, plami for rural and the Members ofi the University Faculty urban development cannot be vigo­ of Law of that State. Their, comments rously implemented. In collaboration and suggestions on the draft Bill have with the State Government, we have been most helpful and stimulating-a already done much but, with a uniform fitting demonstration of the close land law, administration and policy, and increasingly co-operative relations we can do even more for the benefit of which exist between our two States. the people. This measure, therefore, Sir, as I have said, this Bill is represents an important step toward introduced after considerable consulta­ such uniformity and to the promul­ tion with all the interested persons and gation of a common code of land I, therefore, commend this Bill to the law for the Federation as a whole. House as a novel and important means Sir, now in conclusion, I wish to for the improvement of our land law thank the Bar Committee of the two and our land administration for the States of Penang and Malacca and, in benefit and convenience of our people. particular, their respective Chairmen Mr Lim Huck Aik and Mr Goh Tiow Sir, I beg to move. Wan, for their assistance in the pre­ The Assistant Minister of the Interior paration of this Bill. As I have (Enche' Cheah Theam Swee): Sir, I beg explained, this measure makes radical to second the motion. changes in the existing law, and also deals with the problem posed by the Enche' D. R. Seenivasagam (lpoh): introduction of the system of registra­ Mr Speaker, Sir, I rise to give full tion of title in a novel and original support to this Bill, and indeed I am manner. In so complex a measure, grateful to the Honourable Deputy exactly how all the changes proposed Prime Minister for giving us such a will operate cannot necessarily be fore­ clear explanation of the intentions and seen at this stage, and I would purposes of this Bill. I! have no doubt therefore like to assure the Bar that whatever that members of the legal full weight will be accorded to their profession will wholeheartedly welcome views in the detailed transitional this Bill, because I think that 1595 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1596 unanimity is essential and of vital to Clause 58 as in the Amendment importance to the profession itself. Slip which has been circulated to Honourable Members, reading as The system which now exists in the follows: Settlements, as we used to call them, is indeed cumbersome and it causes (i) Delete paragraph (a) thereof. considerable headache not only to (ii) Re-letter paragraph (b) thereof members of the legal profession but as paragraph (a), and insert after also to persons who want to deal in the words "pre-existing ease­ land. In fact, the headache is so much ment" a comma and the words that I feel that members of the profes­ "restrictive covenant". sion, who practise in those territories, (iii) Re-letter paragraphs (c) and (d) have to take out insurance to cover as (b) and (c) respectively. themselves against possible errors in their dealings. I certainly most wel­ The purpose of these amendments is come the Bill. I do not intend to as stated in the Amendment Slip. comment on it, because it is a new Amendment put, and agreed to. measure. There might be defects, and here again we have the assurance that Clause 58, as amended, ordered to the defects will be put right after stand part of the Bill. consultation· with the Bar Committee Clause 59 to 70 inclusive ordered to and the Bar Council of the Federation. stand part of the Bill. Question put, and agreed to. Clause 71- Bill accordingly read a second time Tun Haji Abdul Razak:: Sir, I and committed to a Committee of the propose deletion of sub-section (3) of whole House. Clause 71. This provision is unneces­ House immediately resolved itself sary in view of the provisions of the into a Committee on the Bill. preceding sub-section. Bill considered in Committee. Amendment put, and agreed to. Clause 71, as amended, ordered to (Mr Speaker in the Chair) stand part of the Bill. Clauses 1 to 18 inclusive ordered to Clause 72 ordered to stand part of stand part of the Bill. the Bill. Clause 19- Clause 73- Tun Haji Abdul Razak: Mr Chair­ Tun Haji Abdul Razak: Mr Chair­ man, Sir, I propose an amendment to man, Sir, I propose an amendment to Clause 19 as in the Amendment Slip Clause 73, as per Amendment Slip, which has been circulated to Honour­ reading as follows : able Members, reading as follows : In sub-section (1), the words "the Commis­ In sub-section (2), the words "six weeks to" sioner shall" to be substituted for the words be substituted for the words "fourteen days". " , other than a covenant contained in a mortgage, charge or lease, the Commissioner Sir, this amendment is merely to may". extend the period of appeal from two Amendment put, and agreed to. weeks to six weeks. Clause 73, as amended, ordered to Amendment put, and agreed to. stand part of" the Bill. Clause 19, as amended, ordered to Clauses 7 4 to 123 ordered to stand stand part of the Bill. part of the Bill. Clauses 20 to 57 inclusive ordered New Clause 124- to stand part of the Bill. Clause 58- Tun Haji Abdul Razak: Mr Chair­ man, Sir, I beg to move that a new Tun Haji Abdul Razak:: Mr Chair­ Clause, Clause 124, as in the Amend­ man, Sir, I propose three amend~ents ment Slip which has been circulated 1597 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1598 to Honourable Members, be inserted lay-out plans of proposed subdivisions in this Bill. The new Clause reads as without first surrendering their title and follows: obtaining a re-grant of the subdivided "Tr":~itional 124. (1) Where any holding con­ parcels as required in Clause 4 of the ~~~l:'~o ~isting _of land held in fee si~ple Bill. sub-division of immediately before the appointed certain lands. day, has, prior to sµch day, been Sir, I beg to move that this new subdivided, and such subdivi­ Clause 124, bearing the title "Transi­ sion has not on the appointed tional provision relating to subdivision day been delineated on a plan certified by or on behalf of the of certain lands" be read a second time. Chief Surveyor as a lot delimited Question put, and agreed to. (except as otherwise provided in sections 29 and 30) by rectilinear New Clause 124 accordingly read a boundaries, then the Commis­ second time and ordered to be added sioner may, if he is satisfied- to the Bill. (a) that a plan of such sub­ division has been deposited First Schedule ordered to stand part with the Registrar of Deeds of the Bill. before the appointed day, or with the Commissioner Second Schedule- on or within one month after the appointed day; Tun Haji Abdul Razak: Mr Chair­ and man, Sir, I propose an amendment to (b) that such subdivision has the Second Schedule as per Amend­ been approved by any ment Slip which has been circulated State or local authority charged with responsibility to Honourable Members, reading as for the approval of any follows: such subdivision for the In paragraph 5, delete the words "by the purposes of any law relat­ proprietor for the time being, notwithstanding ing to local government or that some other person may be found in town and country planning. occupation thereof, or of any part thereof". open a folio of the Interim Register in respect of any such Amendment put, and agreed to. subdivision, and every such sub­ Second Schedule, as amended, division shall, subject to the provisions of this section, there­ ordered to stand part of the Bill. upon be deemed to be a single Third Schedule ordered to stand part holding for the purposes of this Act. of the Bill. (2) Whenever any folio of the Fourth Schedule ordered to stand Interim Register is opened pur­ part of the Bill. suant to the provisions of sub­ section (1) the Commissioner Fifth Schedule ordered to stand part shall endorse such folio with the of the Bill. words "Subdivision under sec­ tion 124'', and every such en­ Sixth Schedule ordered to stand part dorsement shall be deemed to of the Bill. constitute notice that the area and boundaries of the holding Seventh Schedule ordered to stand comprised therein have not been part of the Bill. surveyed for the purposes of this Act. Preamble ordered to stand part of the (3) The Commissioner shall, Bill. upon being satisfied that the holding comprised in any folio Bill reported with amendments : read referred to in sub-section (2) has the third time and passed. been duly surveyed for the pur­ poses of this Act, cancel the THE RUBBER INDUSTRY (ANTI­ endorsement made upon such folio under the provisions of the INFLATIONARY CESS) FUND said sub-section." (WINDING UP) BILL Sir, this as is explained in the Second· Reading Explanatory Note, is a concession to The Minister of Commerce and owners of lands who wish to sub­ Industry (Dr Lim Swee Aun): Mr divide their lands prior to the appointed Speaker, Sir, I beg to move that a Bill day, in order to enable them to deposit intituled "an Act to make provision • 1599 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1600 for the dissolution of the Rubber Cess Fund Board will have to write to Industry (Anti-Inflationary Cess) Board, all persons whose claims are payable the payment of claims made to the under the Ordinance but who have not Rubber Industry (Anti-Inflationary yet been paid, to submit their claims Cess) Fund Ordinance, 1956, and the before the 30th of April, 1965, on disposal of the monies remaining in which date the Fund will be wound up the Fund after the payments of such and no further claims will be met. claims and for matters connected there­ The Fund is to be audited by the with" be read a second time. Auditor-General as soon as possible Mr Speaker, Sir, the purpose of the after the 30th day of April, 1965, and Bill is to provide for the winding up the balance standing in the Fund on of the Rubber Industry (Anti­ this date will be divided into two parts. Inflationary Cess) Fund. The anti­ One part is called the claimed fund, inflationary cess was levied on exports i.e., the amount that has been claimed of rubber when the price of rubber but has not yet been paid because of went above $1.00 per lb. The monies legal and other technical difficulties. so collected were paid into the Anti­ This claimed fund will be transferred Inflationary Cess Fund, which was then to the Public Trustee who will until refunded to the rubber industry when the 30th day of April, 1985, be res­ the price of rubber fell below $1.00 ponsible for the settlement of such per lb for a period of eight successive claims to the participants of the Fund. weeks. Since the scheme came into Any monies remaining in the hands of operation, there were five periods when the Public Trustee after 30th April, the cess became leviable and the total 1985, will be disposed of in accordance cess collected during these five periods with the direction of the Minister of was about $115.5 million. As at 31st Commerce and Industry then. The Decemebr, 1961, all the monies other part consisting of the remainder collected from estates of I 00 acres and of the Fund is called the unclaimed over have been refunded with the fund which will be paid into Fund "A" exception of $542,211.67 which have of the Rubber Industry (Replanting) not been refunded for technical reasons, Board to be applied for the purposes viz. the non-production of letters of of the said Fund "A" as the money administration or probate or clean remaining in the hands of the Board is titles. But the whole amount of the that share of the cess belonging to smallholders' share of the Fund has estates of 100 acres and over. been paid into Fund "B" of the Rubber The Rubber Industry (Anti- Industry (Replanting) Board to lnfiationary Cess) Fund Board is to be augment the funds available for small­ dissolved after the accounts have been holders replanting. As from 1st audited by the Auditor-General as soon January, 1961, any further anti­ as possible after the 30th of April, inflationary cess collected when the 1965. price of rubber went above $1.00 per lb would be paid direct into the Mr Speaker, Sir, I beg to move that general revenues of the Federation. As the Bill intituled the Rubber Industry this cess is no longer refundable to the (Anti-Inflationary Cess) Fund (Winding industry, it is necessary to wind up the Up) Bill be read a second time. Fund and dissolve the Board. Inciden­ The Minister of Agriculture and tally, Sir, the hopes of the Minister of Co-operatives (Enche' Mohamed Khir Finance to fill the Treasury coffers bin Johari): Sir, I beg to second the with money from the anti-inflationary motion. cess are still hopes and not reality since the price of rubber has never been able Question put, and agreed to. to creep the $1.00 level since 1st Bill accordingly read a second time January, 1961. and committed to a Committee of the Coming back to the Bill, it provides whole House. that on or before the 30th day of House immediately resolved itself October, 1964, the Anti-Inflationary into a Committee on the Bill. ·1!f"

~ 1601 28 NOVEMBER 1962 .. 1602 Bill considered in Committee. that the present harmony amongst our multi-racial communities should be (Mr Speaker in the Chair) fostered and maintained, and nothing Clauses I to I 0 inclusive ordered to should be allowed--even under the stand part of the Bill. guise of freedom of speech-which will destroy or likely to destroy the Bill reported without amendment: peace and goodwill among our people. read the third time and passed. Sir, I beg to move. MOTIONS The Assistant Minister of Informa­ tion and Broadcasting (Enche' Moha­ STANDING ORDERS COMMITTEE med Ismail bin Mohamed Yusof): Sir, (FOURTH SESSION) I beg to second the motion. Second Report Tuan Haji Ahmad bin Abdullah (Kota Bharu Hilir): Tuan Speaker, saya The Minister of Internal Security bangun membangkang ka-atas usul ini. (Dato' Dr Ismail): Mr Speaker, Sir, Tuan Speaker, di-dalam Report ini I beg to move, ada mengandongi bahawasa-nya saya That the Second Report of the Standing sa-bagai sa-orang anggota bagi Standing Orders Committee (Fourth Session) which has been presented to the House as paper Orders Committee telah membangkang­ No. DR. 5 of 1962, be adopted with effect kan di-atas usul yang ada di-hadapan from the end of this meeting. kita ini. Sebab2-nya maka saya Honourable Members will recall the membangkangkan usul ini ia-lah kita long and interesting debate which took manakala menchapaikan kemerdekaan place in this House on the 9th di-dalam tahun 1957, kita telah December, 1959, when Standing Order menerima satu chorak Kerajaan yang 36 (10) was discussed and eventually berparlimentari demokrasi yang mem­ adopted. During the course of that beri hak lebeh2 lagi kapada anggota debate, all the arguments for and Dewan Ra'ayat, memberi kebebasan against the principle embodied in S. 0. yang penoh untok berchakap di-dalam 36 (10) were fully and often forcibly Rumah ini. Dan sekarang ini sa-telah put forward from every side of the Standing Orders telah berjalan dari­ House, and I shall not weary Honour­ pada sejak 1959 sa-hingga sampai able Members by going over these sekarang ini kita telah mengalami arguments once again. bermacham2 motion yang telah di­ kemukakan di-dalam Dewan ini. Sa­ The proposed amendments to our tengah daripada motion yang kita Standing Orders now before the House telah bahath itu ia-lah satu motion merely extend the same principle to yang di-kemukakan oleh allahyarham motions, amendments and questions Dato' Onn bin Ja'afar ia-itu motion put to Ministers. The reasons for these yang hendak menjadikan rupa bangsa amendments are clearly and succinctly negara ini ia-lah Melayu. Motion itu stated in the Report of the Committee. telah berjalan dan telah pun di-bahath­ If, during the course of a debate in this kan berbulan2 lama-nya di-dalam House, it shall be out of order to use Rumah ini dan motion itu di-pandang "words which are likely to promote boleh menimbulkan huru hara atau feelings of ill-will or hostility between pun perkelahian di-antara kaum2 yang communities in the Federation" surely dudok di-dalam Tanah Melayu ini, it follows that such words should also tetapi motion itu dapat di-tamatkan be out of order when uttered in the dan huru hara yang di-takut2kan itu course of other proceedings of Parlia­ tidak juga timbul. Sekarang ini nampak­ ment. nya pehak Kerajaan telah membuat I would like to stress once again, satu usul yang ada di-kemukakan di­ and it cannot be stressed too often, hadapan kita ini untok menyekat that in this critical stage of our history, kebebasan wakil2 ra'ayat membuat inter-communal ill-will is our greatest chadangan2 dan berchakap serta ber­ enemy. It is of paramount importance bahath di-dalam Dewan ini. 1603 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1604 Saya, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, ada-lah to you, Sir, to reject at the very outset sebab bangkangan saya di-atas usul any motion or any question, which in ini ia-lah dua perkara. Pertama-nya your opinion is calculated to give rise usul ini akan menghalangi dan tidak to breaches of this Order. Therefore, akan membenarkan lagi wakil2 ra'ayat the first objection to this motion is that dalam Dewan in membuat chadangan2 this House does not trust its own yang berbau perkauman. Yang kedua­ Members. because one of the amend­ nya, dengan di-majukan usul ini maka ments says this, "If Mr Speaker is of ada-lah chadangan yang telah kita opinion that any motion or amendment bahathkan pada Persidangan Dewan or the continuance of the debate ini pada bulan October yang lalu yang thereon is calculated to give rise to telah di-kemukakan oleh Ahli Yang breaches of this Order . . . ". Therefore, Berhormat dari Kuala Trengganu Mr Speaker, Sir, before you would Utara tidak dapat lagi membahathkan be justified in rejecting a motion, you usul-nya itu dengan sa-penoh2-nya may come to the conclusion that an kerana mengikut usul yang ada di­ Honourable Member-whoever he is­ hadapan kita ini bahawa usul itu akan is calculated in his own mind with an di-hentikan, akan di-tamatkan sama evil intent to violate the Standing ada perbahathan itu selesai atau tidak Orders of this House. I say that it is di-akhir Persidangan kita ini. Oleh an insult to each and every Member of sebab yang demikian, saya bangkang this House for this motion to have di-atas usul yang ada di-hadapan kita. come to this House, because no Member of this House, whatever his Enche' D. R. Seenivasagam: Mr political beliefs, whatever his political Speaker, Sir, I rise to oppose the theories may be. should be suspect of motion in the strongest possible terms. being a dishonest person : and if this The Honourable the Minister of Inter­ is the intention of Government, then nal Security in moving the motion has certainly it is a wrong intention, and told this House that the principle of the sooner the Government clears that the motion itself, in fact, had been intention and deal with the Members of debated at some great length when an this House as Honourable Members, amendment, or proposed amendment, then I say the sooner will Honourable was introduced in respect of Standing Members of this House be prepared to Order 36. I disagree with that state­ reciprocate the Government in power ment. because the principle involved in all dealings in this House. But if it in the present motion is entirely is intended to say that Members of different from the principle involved in this House are to be suspect and you, the last amendment made to Standing Mr Speaker, Sir, will have to make up Order 36. your mind that a particular Member is In the case of the last amendment, calculated with an evil mind and with when sub-section (10) was added to evil intent to break the Standing Standing Order 36. the principle Orders, then I say that it is wrong involved there was whether an indivi­ on principle; and on that very ground dual Member of this House should be itself this motion is most offensive to cautioned to restrain his language to the Members of this House-and, the extent of not using language which indeed, to the people of this country. is likely to cause feelings of ill-will or hostility between different communities Now, Sir, the second ground on in the Federation when a motion is which this motion can be properly being debated. Mr Speaker, Sir, the attacked is this : when a motion is distinction between that and the introduced in this House, it will be present amendment is this: this amend­ impossible for you, Mr Speaker, Sir, ment if it gets through will not be an to say that there will be a possibility amendment which will control or lay, of words being spoken which would perhaps, a reasonable restriction on the offend sub-sectiOn (10) of Standing language to be used by Members of Order 36 until a Member has started this House, but it will give ·an open speaking. May I ask, Sir, what is the ticket, uncontrolled from any source, necessity for this House to delegate this 1605 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1606 power, if I may use the word, purposes in this House. However, I do to Mr Speaker? Let a motion, what­ not think that is the intention. I agree ever its form may be, so long that it would be better to refer this as it complies with Standing Orders, back to the Standing Orders Com­ come before this House; let it mittee, so that it can be more specific, •be debated; and Standing Order 36 because if other countries read our more than amply provides for Mr Standing Orders, I do not want them Speaker to stop any Member from to laugh at us and to say, "What kind speaking if he chooses to violate sub­ of Parliament is this, why have a section (10) after warnings have been Standing Order of this kind?". given by the Chair. Therefore, Sir, The next point is this : we do not what is the intention, what is the want to be like the ostrich burying motive? its head in the sand. If there are Then, again, Sir, I think the Com­ matters which require to be spoken in mittee that dealt with this matter dealt this House and debated in this House, with it in a most haphazard manner. then I say that it is in the interests of The Committee did not know what it the country that they should be put on was saying when it asked that sub­ the Order Paper and debated in a section (11) be added to Standing reasonable atmosphere of sense and Order 36. What does sub-section (11) understanding. We gain nothing by say? It says: shutting our eyes to what is obvious. "If Mr Speaker is of opinion that any It is true that matters which may come motion or amendment or the continuance of under sub-section (10) of Standing the debate thereon is calculated to give rise Order 36 are matters of a delicate to breaches of this Order .. · ." nature. I appreciate that language used "This Order" means Standing Order by Members of this House should be 36. Therefore, under Standing Order used with caution and restraint. But I 36, if Mr Speaker thinks that in the can never agree with the principle that course of a motion offensive language just because something is delicate and or insulting language will be used, Mr something is of a peculiar nature, that Speaker can reject it-if Mr Speaker matter should be shut out of this thinks that a Member may refer to House. That is dictatorship and not another Member by name, he may democracy, and how dare the Govern­ reject it; if Mr Speaker thinks that an ment speak of being democratic! If improper motive may be imputed, he Members of this House, outside this may reject it. Then, what is the use of House, can even use the Sino-Indian Standing Order 36, what is the inten­ border clash for propaganda purposes, tion? If you say that reference shall then I say that Members of this House not be made to any matter which is shall have more liberty to speak in this sub judice, if Mr Speaker thinks that House with the control of Mr Speaker. in the course of a motion reference will I say that if Members of this House be made to a matter which is sub outside have the freedom to incite judice, the motion can be rejected-is malfeeling between Chinese and Indians that the intention? Is that sense or is on the Sino-Indian border clash, then that nonsense? I say that it is nonsense. they shall have more privilege in this If you want to say that Mr Speaker can House and not outside this House. reject a motion which may violate sub-section (10) then say so, but why Mr Speaker, Sir, I say that the motive make it so ridiculous and so fantastic of the Government in introducing this that for each and every matter, which is not bona fide-it is mala fide­ is provided for by Standing Order 36, because it knows that as time goes on to be controlled in this House? You more and more motions of a nature can say that Mr Speaker can reject it important to the people of this country arbitrarily in that manner. I say it is will be brought up-for example the not logic. You might as well say that last motion by the Honourable Member Standing Order 36 is removed and of the P.M.I.P. is important to this replaced by this Order-sub-section country; and under this Order it will (11}-which will be sufficient for all never be allowed to be debated in this 1607 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1608 House, I have no doubt-with great amend the Standing Orders. But, Sir, respect to you, Mr Speaker, Sir. Is that a case in point was referred to you by what we want? We do not want the Honourable Member for Kota dictatorship. We want freedom, free­ Bharu Hilir-the motion by the late dom to speak within the laws of this Dato' Onn bin Ja'afar; and recently country and within the normal we have also debated a motion by th' Standing Orders of a democratic. Parlia­ P.M.1.P. In debating these motions ment. I have yet to see a democratic there was a lot of controversy and no Government which would have an trouble had arisen for the simple reason Order as proposed in this amendment. that though this country is made up of Sir, for those reasons I oppose most multi-races, everybody understands strongly the proposed amendments, one another. Sir, the thing that really because they are made in bad faith in matters is the "rights and interests" of an attempt to muzzle Members of this the people. So long as in the Federal House-I would not say Opposition­ Constitution there exists ·an Article from bringing matters which are legiti­ which affords special rights and privi­ mately within the purview of demo­ leges to a certain community, there will cratic Parliaments known throughout always be in this House, and even the world. And I would say that you outside, matters spoken which we today can bring in a proper Order, but you term as communal. How can you can only bring in a proper Order if avoid this? The only way to avoid you consider it properly and bring in this is to remove that Article from the a sensible one and not an all-embracing Constlitution. Now, for me to make one such as sub-section (11), which is that suggestion, a member of a com­ ridiculous, and it is against all com­ munity or a representative of a com­ monsense and democratic principles. munity will no doubt say, "Here you are, that man is trying to take away Enche' Chin See Yin (Seremban our rights." Don't you think that it Timor): Mr Speaker, Sir, I rise to would be better if we come out to the suggest that this be referred back to open to discuss our rights and the Committee. The reasons are very interests and come to a certain com­ simple. Even in this House we have promise? I think it would be a great an assembly made up of all races­ deal better than to go about keeping and in the governing Party we have the things in one's heart, otherwise one day UMNO, the MCA and the MIC. there will be an eruption like that of Also, in the Federal Constitution there a volcano. When we practise demo­ is an Article which gives certain rights cracy, we should allow matters to be and special privileges to a certain discussed openly. Let everybody know community. Therefore, in this House, what is in the mind of each other, and whenever we should discuss matters let us come to a sort of agreement in concerning the affairs of the country, order to live peacefully and' harmo­ it is very likely, in the interests of the niously. country, for one to speak of the rights for which. he has to stand up for the As has been suggested by the people. For instance, let us take the Honourable Member for Ipoh, a certain case of the: MIC. They will have to matter can be made highly communal, speak for the Indians, because they even though it is only a matter of a propose to represent the Indians. The claim, and you call it a battle between MCA will have to speak for the democracy and communism. Here, . in Chinese because they propose to stand this case, you make use of words of for the Chinese. Therefore, under the convenience by calling the fund "Save Constitution, if certain rights are given Democracy Fund". To whom are you to one community, naturally the going to give this money to save representatives of the other communi­ democracy? In fact, Nationalist China ties will speak about them. was fighting Communist China for a Here, it is suggested that in order to long time, and why should not this avoid misunderstandings, the Govern­ money be given to Nationalist China? ment is introducing this motion to (Laughter). These are words of con- ''~°l'!lc·;;:'. 4t!t.C.· _ ..,.. ,; '\ ~ 1609 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1610 venience which can be used for the ini, dan akan berlaku di-luar Dewan, purpose. Since we all live for and are maka ini-lah yang kita bimbangkan practising democracy, let us allow yang kita tidak ingin berlaku di-luar freedom of speech. You, Mr Speaker, Dewan ini soal2 yang boleh menyentoh Sir, have a lot of experience-you have perhubongan berbaik2 di-antara kaum always guided us in the right way­ di-luar Dewan. Maka dengan kita me­ and when we go out of the way, you ngenakan satu sekatan yang perkara have just to say ·that we are out of itu di-bahathkan dalam Dewan ini, order and ask us to stop. Therefore, di-mana-kah kita boleh memperdebat what is the need for this amendment atau mempertimbangkan masaalah itu when for so long up to now you have bagi di-binchangkan. guided us through very carefully and Sa-lain daripada itu, bagi saya, apa very happily? yang saya khuatirkan ia-lah bahawa I, therefore, suggest that either this sadikit masa lagi akan timbul satu be referred back to the Committee or pindaan menyekat hatta soal2 yang let us throw it out. boleh di-fikirkan bahawa usul itu boleh Tuan Haji Hasan Adli bin Haji mengusek atau pun menyakiti hati sa­ Arshad (Kuala Trengganu Utara): suatu kaum dalam negeri ini. Jadi Tuan Yang di-Pertua, sa-sudah tiga kalau sampai ini di-lakukan besok tahun Dewan ini di-tubohkan dan dalam Peratoran Meshuarat ini, maka Ahli2 dalam Dewan ini sentiasa ber­ amat-lah kita kesalkan oleh kerana debat dengan baik, maka amat-lah sa-bagaimana yang telah di-terangkan mena'ajubkan saya apabila pindaan oleh Ahli2 Yang Berhormat di-Dewan sa-rupa ini baharu di-chadangkan sa­ ini baharu sa-bentar tadi, maka akan sudah Dewan Ra'ayat bersidang. Saya makin bertambah kurang kebebasan tidak-lah berchadang hendak menim­ berbahath yang kita harus memileki bulkan usul saya ini, kerana saya yakin oleh Ahli2 Dewan Ra'ayat ini. bahawa Tuan Speaker yang ada ini dan Itu-lah sahaja apa yang saya hendak yang sudah2 ada-lah bertimbang rasa, katakan, walau bagaimana pun saya dan oleh yang demikian tidak akan yakin bahawa . Tuan Yang di-Pertua menyusahkan saya dalam pindaan tidak akan melibatkan usul saya dalam undang2 ini. Saya yakin yang beliau pindaan ini. ini akan membenarkan usul yang saya kemukakan dalam bulan October, Dr Burhanuddin bin Mohd. Noor 1962 itu, dan saya akan kemukakan (Besot): Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya terus supaya boleh di-perdebat sampai bangun membangkang usul yang ada bila2 masa sa-lagi usul itu tidak sele­ di-hadapan kita ini. Saya membangkang sai. bukan-lah dengan niat atau tujuan tidak menghormati undang2 atau per­ Tetapi, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, walau atoran atau bukan pula sukakan per­ bagaimana pun, saya tidak-lah ber­ kauman. Pada zahir-nya tujuan usul setuju dengan usul ini yang men­ ini ia-lah hendak menjaga peratoran chadangkan satu pindaan daripada dan hendak mengelakkan perkauman. Standing Order yang ada ini. Saya Maka tidak-lah bererti tentangan yang faham bahawa maksud pindaan ini saya maksudkan di-sini bersetuju me­ ia-lah kerana mengelakkan Dewan ini langgar peratoran dan sukakan kapada daripada menjadi satu gelanggang per­ perkauman. Sebab pindaan ini akan tikaman lidah atau perang lidah yang merupakan satu tekanan kapada ke­ boleh mengakibatkan sa-suatu yang bebasan untok melahirkan perasaan tidak baik dalam negeri ini, tetapi (conscience) yang ada terperap dalam walau bagaimana pun saya yakin jiwa Ahli2 Dewan Ra'ayat ini. bahawa hakikat-nya sangat nyata ba­ hawa apa2 kekhuatiran itu sa-kali pun Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya perchaya tidak akan di-bahathkan dalam Dewan timbul-nya usul ini ia-lah kerana pehak ini; tetapi tidak-lah dengan memutus­ PAS selalu mengemukakan usu! di­ kan bagi membuat satu peratoran da­ katakan yang merupakan perkauman, lam Dewan ini akan dapat menyekat yang mungkin membangkitkan pera­ perkara itu berbangkit di-luar Dewan saan perkauman, permusohan atau 1611 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1612

persangkitaan. Saya suka menegaska~ jadi yang di-punyai oleh bumi putera di-sini bahawa PAS ini jauh sa-kalt negeri ini. daripada perkauman. Satu perkara yang Ini-lah perkara yang dari pehak saya harus di-ingat bahawa dasar per­ membangkang ini supaya dapat-lah juangan yang berjalan pada hari ini membedza benar2 dalam gerakan ke­ telah mengambil sikap dan pendirian bangsaan bumi putera, walau pun yang berlain2. Dengan sebab berlainan Melayu dengan nama Melayu itu tidak ini-lah menimbulkan ta'arif atau pe­ 2 ada · sama sa-kali boleh melibatkan ngertian perkauman itu berlain . dalam perkataan perkauman· atau di­ Pada pendirian PAS tentang yang masokkan dalam ta'arif perkauman. di-katakan perkauman ini ada satu Jadi, itu-lah perkara yang pokok dalam perkara yang penting sa-kali ia-itu soal erti kata perkembangan kebangsaan kebangsaan bumi putera. Soal kebang­ yang tidak berma'ana perkauman. saan bumi putera yang saya maksudkan Sebab itu-lah saya membangkang usul di-sini soal kebangkitan ra'ayat negeri yang di-kemukakan di-hadapan kita ini daripada gulongan bumi putera sekarang ini. yang sudah bergerak pada satu chita2 kebangsaan yang kita sebut nama Dato' Dr Ismail bin Dato' Haji kebangsaan Melayu. Hal ini sudah Abdul Rahman: Mr Speaker, Sir, as I pun di-rakamkan dalam mana2 per­ said in moving this motion, I do not gerakan kebangsaan negeri ini yang intend to repeat the arguments which wujud pada masa sekarang, dan yang have been used by this side of the wujud pada masa yang silam. Timbul­ House on a similar occasion in the nya pergerakan kebangsaan bumi past. I just like to answer some of the putera ia-lah kerana orang dagang observations made which I consider to datang ka-negeri ini di-bawa oleh pen­ be new. jajah bagi muslihat dan kepentingan Atas bangkangan yang di-bawa oleh penjajah dalam bermacham2 bahagian. Ahli Yang Berhormat dari Kota Bharu Kedatangan mereka itu merupakan Hilir, yang pertama dia kata ia-it1,1 di­ "communities" dalam negeri ini. dalam masa Legislative Council yang Mereka yang datang itu sudah tentu dahulu allahyarham Dato' Onn telah ada mempunyai: bahasa dan kebuda­ membuat satu chadangan yang sa­ yaan-nya sendiri. Oleh sebab penjajah chara perkauman ia-itu supaya me­ menjaga kepentingan-nya, maka bumi ngadakan rupa bangsa dalam negeri putera negeri ini bangkit dengan nama ini dengan nama Melayu. Ini saya kebangsaan Melayu itu. suka-lah nyatakan ia-itu apa yang Mr Speaker: Ada-kah itu mustahak? boleh di-perbuat di-bawah penjajah Masaalah yang ada di-hadapan Majlis dahulu ta' usah-lah kita hendak buat ini ia-lah sama ada usul ini hendak pada masa kita sudah merdeka, sebab di-terima atau tidak. Jadi kalau tuan di-bawah penjajah dahulu satu hendak bcrchakap perkara itu boleh­ perkara ... lah di-chakapkan dalam usul No. 6 Tuan Haji Ahmad bin Abdullah: baharu-lah kena pada tempat-nya. Tuan Yang di-Pertua, on a point of Kalau berchakap pendek, saya benar­ explanation-not in the Legislative kan. Council but in Parliament. Dr Burhanuddin: Jadi usul ini ada­ lah satu tekanan bagi kebebasan Mr Speaker: I think he is right dalam membangkitkan perasaan bumi about Dato' Onn's motion-the motion putera yang sedang berjalan sekarang was brought into this Parliament and ini yang hendak membela bangsa not in the Federal Legislative Council. Melayu. Maka usul ini, Tuan Yang di­ I remember what he said. Pertua, ada-lah sa-laras, sa-jalan dan Dato' Dr Ismail: Baik-lab, Tuan sa-jajar dengan penekanan bagi ke­ Yang di-Pertua, chadangan yang di­ bangkitan perasaan kebangsaan bumi bawa oleh Dato' Onn bin Ja'afar dalam putera itu. Dan tidak-lah boleh di­ Parlimen ini. Bagi pendapat Kerajaan ma'anakan perkara itu perkauman. Itu Perikatan bahawa sejarah kaum2 yang ada-lah nature atau tabi'at sa-mula dudok di-dalam negeri ini telah ~~,. ~'i!i'tf,,;:1"'.': .....,~

1613 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1614 berjalan lama. Ini ada~Iah menjadi of national importance to the country, satu panduan dan tujuan Kerajaan for the good of the country, for the Perikatan, kita hendak menjadikan good of the people of this country. negeri ini dengan satu ra·ayat-nya we will continue to do it in spite of yang kokoh dan ta'at setia kapada the Opposition. (Applause) Sir, as I negeri ini. Atas soal menghadkan said,. I will not try to repeat the freedom of speech, di-sini Ahli2 arguments which this side of the House Yang Berhormat parti PAS tentu-lah has said on a past occasion. tahu ia-itu di-dalam dunia ini tiap2 Sir, I beg to move. satu benda itu tentu-lah ada had-nya tidak ada satu kebebasan dengan tidak Question put, and agreed to. ada had-nya. Dalam Parlimen ini pun Resolved, kita ada freedom of speech, kita ada That the Second Report of the Standing mempunyai Standing Rules and Orders Orders Committee (Fourth Session) whic..h sa-bagaimana dalam mana Tuan Spea­ has been presented to the House as Paper ker boleh menegor dan boleh menahan No. DR. 5 of 1962, be adopted with effect sa-saorang itu berchakap dengan me­ from the end of this meeting. lampau2. Sitting suspended at 1 p.m. Now, Sir, I come to the Honourable Sitting resumed at 2.45 p.m. Member for Seremban Timor. The only observation I would like to make is THE SUPPLY BILL, 1963 that I never knew that he represented Second Reading the Chinese in this Parliament. I thought when he stood for election he The Minister of Finance (Enche' Tan stood as the Member for Seremban Siew Sin): Mr Speaker, Sir, I beg to Timor, and I thought he represented move that a Bill intituled "An Act to all communities there. apply a sum out of the Consolidated Fund to the service of the year 1963 Enche' Chin See Yin: On a point of and to appropriate that sum and such explanation, Sir. other sums as have been authorised to be issued for the service of that year" Dato' Dr Ismail: I will not give way, be read a second time. Sir. In accordance with my usual prac­ Enche' Chin See Yin: That means tice, I intend to begin this address by he does not want me to explain. presenting a brief survey of economic (Laughter). conditions in the major industrial coun­ Dato' Dr Ismail: Now, Sir, as tries since conditions in these countries regards the Member for lpoh, I cannot have a significant bearing on the stop him from making observations on quantum of our export earnings. I what he thought the Government's stated last year that the year 1961 saw intention is. All I can say is that the a recovery in the United States, a Government's intention has already slower rate of advance in Western been put forward by me when I moved Europe and a weakening in primary this motion. As regards his observation commodity prices. The broad conclu­ about Government wanting the co­ sion which I drew from these facts was operation of the Opposition, I would that an economic upsurge on a global say that the Government never expect scale was not likely to occur in 1962. 100 per cent co-operation from the It may, of course, be too early to make Opposition, because if that were so, an assessment for 1963. but the indi­ then there would be no opposition in cations at present are that the general this House. However, what we would pattern for next year will not be very like is that on a matter of national dissimilar from that for 1962, though importance-if the Opposition could there might be differences in detail here come with us-we will let them co­ and there. operate with us; but even if the A review of the international econo­ Opposition would not co-operate with mic situation shows that world indus­ us, and if we think that the matter is trial production continued to expand 1615 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1616 during 1962 though possibly at a slower what because of the strain placed on rate than that for the previous year. the balance of payments by heavy 1962 brought further expansion in the investment. On the other hand, many United States though not as much as primary producing countries in Asia was widely expected at the beginning are faced with falling incomes owing of the year, and a fairly general to the continuation of their unfavour­ levelling off of production in some able terms of trade, and with diminish­ major continental European countries. ing foreign exchange receipts are less able to pay for imports. The down­ In the United States the rate of turn in Japanese industrial production unemployment fell from a high point could be attributed partly to the of 7 per cent in mid-1961, but up to difficulty of maintaining the existing July 1962 still remained in excess of volume of exports to Asian countries 5 per cent of the labour force. whose imports from Japan have had to Although the indices of industrial be curtailed as a result of rising production and Gross National Product expenditure on development projects. continue to reach new peaks, and are expected to register further advances As far as international liquidity is until the end of the year, the picture concerned, the deficit in the U.S. as a whole is blurred, showing no balance of payments this year is esti­ definite tendency either way. A variety mated to approximate US $1-! billion, of measures, particularly in the field a considerable improvement over last of taxation, have however been mooted year's US $2-! billion, and even as a means of providing a stimulus for larger deficits in previous years. continued growth, should such a need Britain too has achieved a welcome arise in 1963. improvement in her balance of pay­ Industrial output figures in the ments situation. In the first half of E.E.C. countries did not alter signi­ this year, there was a surplus of £96 ficantly for the first nine months of million on current account compared 1961 but rose again in October of with £60 million for the corresponding that year and continued to rise until period of 1961. On the other hand, January 1962. Since then production West Germany's balance of payments, on the whole seemed to have reached a which has been favourable during the plateau. In West Germany, where there last 10 years or so, is beginning to appears to be a slackening of activity, deteriorate. It has been running a the spectacular rate of expansion which deficit on current and long term capital has been a feature of that country's account in 1962 and its reserves are post-war economic recovery appears to now at about the same level at which be giving way to a more normal rate they stood at the beginning of this year. of growth. Increasing attention is being Generally speaking, it appears that focussed there on the problem of wage there is a more equitable distribution increases vis-a-vis productivity and of of international reserves today than has the resultant inflation, should this been the case for some time past. It can problem fail to be solved. certainly be said that the world's two reserve currencies, viz., the dollar and In the United Kingdom, industrial the pound sterling are in better shape production was slightly higher in 1961 now than they were in 1961, and there than it was in 1960. During the first is no evidence of a shortage of inter­ half of 1962 there was some increase national liquidity. This is indeed an in output, and the rest of the year encouraging development, for Hon'ble might see a further but modest rise. Members will recall that in my Budget The restraints on bank lending are to speech last year I expressed particular come to an end and it appears that the anxiety about the pound. British Government is trying to stimu­ late a moderate growth of the economy. A rather disturbing event during the year under review was the sharp fall in In Japan economic expansion which share prices which took place on the was more marked earlier in the year New York Stock Exchange in May and has recently tended to decline some- June of this year and which had its -~,,

1617 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1618 repercussions on nearly every stock issued by the Federal Republic of exchange in the Western world. Con-· Western Germany. Although we have trary to some earlier expectations, this since invested $7.5 million in 3!% 1963 development, has not, so far, produced Kassenobligationen der Bundesrepub­ a recession in the industrial countries. lik Deutschland, our total of $24.7 It appears that this was more in the million in non-sterling investments still nature of a somewhat painful adjust­ falls far short of the $75 million ment of share values which were too allowed. At a time like this, when we high in relation to earnings. One con­ intend to venture into the non-sterling sequence of this adjustment is a depres­ capital markets of the Western world sion in the capital markets of the for the first time in our history, and I Western bloc which in turn would shall have more to say on this subject make it more difficult for outside in a later part of my address, it is countries to float loans there on reason­ essential that this particular portfolio able terms. · should be greatly enlarged. This may present something of a problem. how­ Summing up, it looks as if in almost. ever, for as Hon'ble Members . will all the industralised countries of the learn later, we are now starting to run free world business activity appears to down our external reserves more rapidly have levelled off though on a fairly than was originally anticipated. high plateau. This levelling off does not necessarily mean the beginning of a In case the United Kingdom joins recession but rather that economic the European Common Market, it is growth is falling well below the rate clear that we should try to secure the which might have been achieved if the best terms we can for those of our economic potential of the countries products which are likely to be affected. concerned had been fully utilised. "It We have succeeded in securing duty­ is the disappointment in unfulfilled free entry for tea and it appears that expectations which is at the root of the tropical hard woods will also enter free. widespread discussions of ways and In regard to our remaining products means-not as much to avoid another which are affected, our best plan would recession as to develop higher rates of probably be to negotiate a trade treaty utilisation of productive resources". direct with the Six, and we requested This quotation from the September the British Government, in the course 1962 Economic Letter of the First of the recent Commonwealth Prime National City Bank of New York, in Ministers' Conference in London to my view, applies not only to the United urge this course upon them. States but to almost every industrial country of the free world. It may well One of the surest indicators of be that the plateau which has now economic growth or the lack of it is been reached by the industrialised the trend of Gross Domestic Product. countries will, sooner or later, prove to In 1955 our own Gross Domestic Pro­ duct at factor cost (at constant 1959 be t~ starting point for a new upward curve but, at the moment, no signs of prices) amounted to $4,281 million; such a trend are apparent. by 1961 it had risen to $5,458 million. and in 1962 it is expected to reach I stated last year that a total of only about $5,700 million. Gross Domestic about $16 million had been invested in Product has thus been increasing at U.S. Treasury Bills, in time deposits roughly 4 per cent a year since 1955. and in U.S. dollar stock issued by the However, the population has also been International Bank, out of the $75 increasing rapidly at just over 3 per million which Parliament had fixed as cent a year. This fact, together with a ceiling for investment in non-sterling some deterioration in the terms of government securities or the securities trade, has meant that "real" per capita of international institutions, like the Gross National Product has not greatly World Bank. I stated then that active changed between 1955 and now. In 1960 consideration was also being given to Gross National Product (at factor cost) the desirability of making investments at current market prices was equivalent in short-term Deutsche Mark securities to just over $700 per capita per annum. .,,""•f1··"';.:';4fJI~

1619 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1620 International comparisons of national Therein lies the very great importance income are inconclusive owing to of expanding the manufacturing sector, differences in method of compilation apart from other reasons, for ultimately and depending on the exchange rate this expansion will lead to a substitu­ used. At best they are only rough. Per tion of domestic products for imports. capita Gross National Product of the In spite of the undeniable progress Federation of Malaya is approximately which has been made in the manufac­ one-tenth that of America, one-fifth turing sector, it is still small, by any that of the United Kingdom, two-thirds standards. It contributes less than 6 that of Japan, one-third higher than per cent of Gross Domestic Product, that of Thailand, and three or four though I should interpose here that times as high as that of India, manufacturing activities on rubber Pakistan or Burma. Thus the Federa­ estates are included under "Agricul­ tion of Malaya stands somewhere in ture". Even then, it is well to remember the middle-richer than most S.E. that rather more than one-third of the Asian countries but not as rich as net output of the entire manufacturing ''Western" countries. sector is accounted for by primary processing activities, such as rubber re­ The steady fall in rubber prices milling, rubber latex processing, coco­ since 1960 and the decline which has nut oil mills, sawmills and rice mills. set in even in the price of tin this year A further one-third is accounted for by has resulted in a steady deterioration a group of 10 large industries, each of in the terms of trade. Whereas in 1960 which employs over 1,000 workers. the favourable trade balance on mer­ This group consists of firms producing chandise account was $905 million, the biscuits, soft drinks, tobacco products, figure for 1961 was $524 million, and furniture, structural clay products, and for 1962 it is expected to be only $350 of establishments undertaking job million. The worsening of the terms of printing and book-binding, foundry trade in 1962, and the direct and in­ and general machine repair work, and direct effects of the substantial increase motor vehicle repairs. The remaining in Government expenditure under the industries and their products are very Second Five-Year Plan, seem likelv diverse. Two large groups consist of to cause a major swing in our balance establishments making chemical and of payments. The current deficit in 1961 metal products. Other industries that was about $30 million, and in 1962 it make a significant, if not large contri­ is expected to rise to over $200 million. bution to the net output of the manu­ To a small extent the balance of pay­ facturing sector, are factories making ments deficit on current account will be ice, ice-cream and dairy products, joinery offset by a net inflow of funds from products and wooden boxes, cement abroad into the private sector. Never­ and pottery products, etc. theless, a substantial loss of foreign For the whole of the manufacturing exchange reserves in 1962 is in pros­ sector full-time paid employment in­ pect. In 1963, the current balance of creased 10 per cent in 1960, as com­ payments deficit, unless remedial mea­ pared with 1959, and a further 5 per sures are taken, will very likely be cent in 1961. The experience of different higher still-perhaps around the $300 industries varied. In the primary pro­ million mark. The basic and inescapable cessing industries paid employment fact is that the value of our exports has increased 10 per cent in 1960 but not been increasing fast enough. Indeed, decreased 3 per cent in 1961, again since 1960 the value of exports has taking 1959 as a basis year. In all the declined. If the domestic sectors of the economy are expanding faster than remaining industries full-time paid the value of exports, mounting current employment increased by 9 per cent in balance of payments deficits are in­ 1960 and 11 per cent in 1961. evitable, unless there is a progressive Rather better progress was made by decline in the propensity to import, firms with pioneer status. The number and this is unlikely if we maintain our of such establishments increased from present policy of unrestricted imports. 18 in 1959 to 31 in 1960 and 43 in ''fW·~­;.,,-,·''.i'~'?'>',k4K ··-~

1621 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1622 1961. The number of full-time paid private individuals. The entire capital employees very nearly trebled, rising has been fully committed and, in any from 1,255 to 3,060, but even so, the case, it is clear that it is grossly in­ full-time paid employees of pioneer adequate if the Company is to play a companies constituted only some 6 per really significant role in the financing cent of those in the manufacturing of private industry. At the request of sector. Generally speaking, therefore, the Government, the World Bank and it can be said that progress in this its affiliate, the International Finance sector has been steady but not Corporation, sent out a team recently spectacular. to advise us on its re-organisation and During the Second Five-Year Plan, future structure. The capital of the gross capital formation in the private Company has lately been increased sector will, in all probability, be below from $15 million to $17.5 miliion as the target, although in thy public the result of a subscription of $2.5 mil­ sector it seems that it will be higher lion from Bank Negara. Broadly, the than that originally planned. This is plan is to increase the capital further causing us some concern, in fact it to $25 million. It is intended to obtain would have been better if it had been an additional $3 to $3.5 million from the other way round. It should be domestic investors, $1-$1.5 million remembered that investment by the from new foreign sources and the private sector is of prime importance balance of between $2.5-$3.5 million in several ways-in diversifying the from the International Finance Cor­ economy, in expanding the manufactur­ poration. The Government's share will ing sector, in providing employment remain the same. This is a matter of opportunities for our rapidly increasing some importance as it will ensure an population, and so on. Let us take a organisation which would be free of look at our record in this field in recent political pressure. At the same time it years. In 1956 gross capital formation is also essential to ensure that no in the private sector totalled $289 particular individual or interests or million. It rose to $326 million in 1957, group of individuals or interests hold fell during the next two years, but too many shares that they are in a reached a figure of $442 million in position to dominate this institution. 1960. Estimates have been made of the probable level of gross capital forma­ In addition, the Government, subject tion in this sector during the period of to Parliamentary approval, has agreed the current Plan, i.e., 1961 to 1965. to grant a long-term interest-free loan Even on the most optimistic assump­ of $37.5 million to the Company in tions the total seems unlikely to exceed consideration of which the Company $2,500 million compared with the tar­ will allocate to smaller businesses a get figure of $2,900 million. Measures substantial share of its total investment to stimulate investment by the private programme. The Government loan will sector are under consideration. These also be subordinated to share capital include a revision of the tariff structure, for the purpose of meeting the Com­ new industrial estates, and additional pany's debts and liabilities in the event loans to, and re-organisation of of its liquidation. $22.5 million will the Malayan Industrial Development be payable early in 1963 and the Finance Limited about which I shall balance as and when the additional capital is called up. It is not expected, now speak. however, that any loan will be less At the moment, as Hon'ble Members than $50,000. Government has agreed are aware, M.I.D.F.L., if I may be to do this, having regard to the repre­ permitted to use the initial letters of sentations made that the financing of this development finance company small businesses is largely uneconomic instead of its full name, had an original by virtue of the greater amount of work capital of only $15 million. The involved, proportionately speaking, and Government has subscribed $2! million the greater likelihood of losses in case while the bulk of the remainder comes the monetary security is inadequate. It from banks, insurance companies and wilf be noted that the enhanced capital F' u;x2 ~-~'".'C'l.~..,.,,.;q-f . ··~·

1623 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1624 of $25 million plus the $37 .S million however with the average price for Government loan will come to $62.S 1961. which was 84 cents per pound. million. This sum of $62.5 million The year 1962 opened with the would be regarded as equity by the Singapore price of R.S.S. No. 1 at World Bank for the purpose of calcu­ 80 cents per pound but it fell to as lating the Company's loanworthiness. low as 72 cents towards the end of The World Bank normally restricts its May at the time of the Wall Street loans to three times the borrower's stock market shake-up. or perhaps paid up capital and reserves. The "shake down" would be a more appro­ World Bank has indicated its willing­ priate term. Although the rubber price ness to consider lines of credit to the recovered soon thereafter. it was Company which would therefore pro­ hovering at about the 75-cent level vide a potential source of loan funds until the Cuban crisis when it went to amounting to $187.5 million. The total as high as 86 cents. and it is now at potential resources of the Company the 80-cent level. The depressing effect after re-organisation will therefore be on prices of U.S. strategic stockpile $250 million as compared with the $17 .S releases has been largely dispelled by million it now has. It will therefore be the assurances given by the American seen that this re-organisation will Government that she would consult provide M.l.D.F.L. with about 14 times producing countries before making any its present capital and should go a long changes in her stockpile disposal pro­ way towards meeting its needs in this gramme, and it is felt that as long as direction. that pledge is upheld, which we do One of the most valuable features of not doubt, stockpile releases should no this reorganisation is that the Interna­ longer be one of the disturbing tional Finance Corporation itself will be imponderables of the rubber market. intimately associated with the Com­ There remains. however, the factor of pany's future policies and direction. and the direct off-take of rubber by Eastern will have the right to nominate a European countries which might con­ director to the Board. Furthermore, the tinue to have a significant bearing on World Bank as a condition of any loan the market for the next few years and to the Company. which would have to which so far has had a bullish effect be guaranteed by the Federation on it. In this connection. it is interesting Government. would insist that the to note that the level of pan-Malayan Company be run in accordance with exports to those countries has. with principles which have been accepted the exception of 1960, been rising elsewhere and found to be successful steadily. in practice. It may be necessary also In recent years Eastern European for M.l.D.F.L. in future to have a countries and an increasing number of department which could provide tech­ the larger Western European buyers nical and managerial know-how for have been making direct purchases small enterprises lacking in them. from the Malayan market. In both the Government and the I.F.C. have also London and New York markets, tprn­ agreed that once it is felt that this over has been declining and these two concern is economically viable and has markets are now operating on a much been put on a sound and enduring smaller scale than they used to in the foundation. they would both sell out past. This change in the pattern of their shares to the public. Nevertheless, trade brings with it not only increasing so long as any loans to Government are activity in Malayan markets but also outstanding, it would be represented on the challenge that some of the tradi­ the Board of the Company. tional techniques of the marketing The rubber price for the first nine system in Malaya need to be looked months of the year averaged nearly into and ,overhauled. 78 cents per pound which compares The prospect for 1963 appears favourably with the figure of 75 cents reasonable although any optimism must on which the 1962 Estimates were be tempered with realism. There is no based. It does not compare favourably doubt that synthetic rubber prices will w:~ ~

1625 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1626 continue to exert their downward Rubber production for 1963 is esti­ pressure on natural rubber prices, and mated at 760,000 tons. if natural rubber is to retain its fair share of an expanding world market, The Singapore tin price for the first it must be sold at prices competitive nine months of 1962 was about $455 with that of synthetic rubber, and in per picul and assuming the price will particular, the stereo-regular synthetic be about $425. per picul for the rest of rubbers. There have been slight down­ the year, the average price for the ward adjustments of synthetic rubber year will be about $446 per picul. The prices in 1962 consequent on falling average price for 1961 was $448. natural rubber prices. It is not known The air of uncertainty in the tin what further downward revisions in the market caused by the U.S. Govern­ prices of synthetic will take place in ment announcement of its intention to the course of the next year or two, but release its surplus stockpile tin and · this eventuality cannot be lightly dis­ the actual releases themselves, com­ missed, knowing as we do the rapid bined with the lag in industrial technological advances made in this activity, particularly in America, have field in the last few years. If, there­ depressed the price of tin during the fore, the new year does not bring with year to a level which caused the it any further downward revision in the International Tin Council Buffer Stock price levels at which the older SBRs Manager to intervene for a period to and the new stereo-regular synthetic support the price at £850 per ton in rubbers are being marketed, it is safe London with a substantial part of his to assume that natural will continue to resources. Now that the uncertainty is hold its own at a competitive price largely removed by the appreciable level. restraint exercised by the U.S. Govern­ ment in its releases of tin and now Although for budgetting purposes, it that it is clear that U.S. stockpile tin is better to err on the side of conser­ would not be made available cheaply vatism, and a figure of 70 cents has to the market, the price has maintained been taken for the 1963 Estimates, itself at the L.M.E. price of £850 per optimists are of the view that the level ton. Assuming that the U.S. Govern­ of 75 cents should continue to hold ment will continue to exercise a good for the first half of 1963. Whether similar restraint and assuming that the for the whole of 1963 the price of level of world industrial activity will natural will average out at 15 cents not drop sharply, there is reason to will depend to a large extent on whether hope that the tin price will hold at a the 1962 level of purchases by the level of £850 per ton for next year. Communist bloc countries can be maintained. Production for the first nine months of 1962 came to 43,715 tons as com­ Federation rubber production during pared with 42,750 tons estimated for the first nine months of the year was the period. The total production for 546;419 tons as compared with 541,897 the whole year is now expected to tons during the corresponding period come to 51 ,965 tons. In 1963 produc­ of 1961, an increase of 4,582 tons or tion may be somewhat less, and a less than 1 per cent. This rate of reduction in the output of tin during increase, although for only a nine­ the coming years appears to be month period is rather below that for unavoidable. A recent survey of the the previous year, which was 3 per dredging section of the industry reveals cent per annum. This is due mainly that there will be a reduction in pro­ to the poor output during the months ductive capacity caused by the closure of July and August (the production for of dredges through lack of mining each of these months being about 2,500 land. It is difficult to predict accurately tons less than the corresponding months the remaining lives of Asian mines, of last year) and possibly even in but there are strong grounds for September and October on account of believing that the general trend of their the heavy rains throughout the country. productive capacity must be down- 1627 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1628 . ------~----- wards due to low grade land and hence per cent of this growth was accounted declining yields. It will take time to for by an increase in fixed deposits. develop off-shore mining and mining At the same time, commercial bank in Malay reservations and, at the most, advances have risen by about the same it is expected that they would only amount and stood at $697 million at serve to maintain existing capacity. the end of September as compared with $646 million at the beginning of this The immediate future of the tin year. industry will depend largely on releases from the U.S. Government's strategic The banking system has a function stockpile and the level of world and indeed a duty to play a major industrial activity. The Federation role in the well-being and growth of Government has pressed and will the national economy. In furtherance continue to do so, through its member­ of this objective, the Central Bank has ship of the International Tin Council continued to urge banks to reduce their . and through direct consultations with advances for speculative purposes and the U.S. Government jointly with other to increase their financing of productive producing countries, for orderly dis­ enterprises in the private sector. In the posals of such surplus tin so that any public sector, Honourable Members are adverse effects of such disposals on the aware that the financing of the Second market will be minimised to the Five-Year Development Plan will be greatest extent possible. met partly from domestic loans. While In the field of commercial banking, all the Government loans floated for the year 1962 saw steady progress in this purpose during the past two years various directions. Although no new have been fully subscribed, it is only banks were established during the year, in regard to the current loan that a the number of banking offices increased significant contribution has been from 143 at the end of 1961 to 180 received from the commercial banks. at the end of October, 1962. Of the The issue of loans with maturities of 37 new bank branches that were two and five years is designed to established, 18 were opened in 16 provide Government securities which towns which had not been served by a are suitable investments for banks. As bank before, while the majority of the the implementation of the Second remainder were in towns where few Five-Year Development Plan gains banks had representation. It is en­ momentum and the need for funds to couraging to note that much of this finance the various projects increases, development was accounted for by I look forward to greater support for Federation-incorporated banks. Government loans from the banking system, among others. As a result of the large increase in the number of branches, banking Honourable Members will note from services have been made available to the Order Paper that the Insurance a larger section of the population and, Act has been put down for its First with the consequent growth in the Reading-in fact, it was read the first banking habit, the banking system will time this morning. I shall of course become an increasingly important elaborate in much greater detail when means of mobilising what would other­ introducing it for its second reading. wise be idle funds in outlying areas, For the moment, it is sufficient to say which can now be channelled into that this is the comprehensive legisla­ productive investment and thus con­ tion about which the Government has tribute towards the implementation of spoken in the past, and it is hoped the Second Five-Year Plan. that this Bill will pass through all stages during the present session of Deposits in Federation commercial Parliament so that it can take effect as banks have continued to grow and at from the beginning of next year. the end of September, 1962, stood at $1,100 million which is nearly $50 Let us now turn to the accounts of million higher than the figure at the the Federal Government. In my speech beginning of the year. More than 50 last year I forecast that the revenue "'!<~·

1629 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1630 for 1961 would be $1,071 miUion. The record our grateful appreciation of the actual receipts proved to be $1,081 efforts of the officers concerned in a million, a figure which broke the pre­ field of Government activity which is vious year's record total by $12 million. of paramount importance to our future (Applause). Ordinary budget expendi­ financial stability. (Applause). ture in 1961 amounted to $939 million, so that on current account there was In this connection, too, I would like a surplus of $142 million. (Applause). to pay a special tribute to the work Development expenditure reached $264 of the team of expatriate officers in million, and allowing for the contribu­ this field. Some of them have been tion of $45 million from revenue to recruited on contract and others have the Development Fund and $7 million been generously supplied by the British to other statutory funds, the total of Government on Colombo Plan terms. ordinary and capital expenditure in One of the main reasons for employing 1961 amounted to $1,151 million. this team was to train Malayan officers There was thus an overall deficit of in anti-evasion work and they have $70 million on the 1961 accounts, not been content merely to sit at a against an overall surplus of $98 million desk and advise others what to do. for 1960. They have worked on the basis that practice is the best form of precept and For 1962 it seems likely that revenue have fearlessly tackled some serious will reach a figure in the region of cases of tax evasion. This has involved $1,070 million. This is $81 million taking part in raids on premises and above the original printed estimate, in lengthy Court proceedings. but lower than last year's record by Honourable Members will have seen $11 million, being approximately the some reference to the actual results of same as the receipts for 1960. There is this work in the newspapers but com­ a drop of over $22 million in the yield from export duty on rubber due to paratively few cases are taken to the lower prices for the commodity, but a Courts. Most cases are settled out of drop of only $4 million in income tax Court and in compounding them very revenue, which is expected to be large sums are collected as penalties. $228 million as against the $232 million By way of example, of the cases collected in 1961. In fact, during the settled this year there was one of a last 24 hours the estimate for income motor company involving $200,000, and tax collection has been put at $235 two cases involving professional men million which actually would be produced $100,000 and $150,000 res­ $3,000,000 above that for 1961. This is pectively. A company where some of particularly gratifying, as 1962 is a the takings went direct to the directors' decidedly less prosperous year than pockets had to pay $300,000, a tin 1961, and yet the yield from income tax mine case produced $250,000, one case will probably be only $4 million less- involving rubber estates produced . but as I said a few minutes ago this nearly half a million dollars, and figure was given to me some time ago, another concerning rubber and real and it now appears that the 1962 yield estate accounted for $1.7 million. will actually be above that of 1961. It is clear that the satisfactory result is The receipts from the duty on tin are largely due to the increasing success of now expected to be $1 million more our anti-evasion drive, which has been than last year, as a result of increased pushed forward with great energy and production. The Federation's share of devotion by the officers responsible the Currency Surplus Fund distribution for this work in the Department of will be $9 million higher at $31 million. Inland Revenue. This work is not only A new item, the revenue from com­ arduous and unspectacular, it does not mercial broadcasting, will bring in add to the public popularity of the $2.3 million for the year, but against officers concerned, to put it very this must be set an increase of $1.8 mildly. I am sure the House will wish million in the recurrent expenditure me, on behalf of the Government, to of the Broadcasting Department, as 1632 1631 28 NOVEMBER 1962 compared with 1961. A new item of ground (Applause). As envisaged in $4 million from the Social and Welfare the Second Five-Year Plan, however, Services Lotteries Board is balanced this rate of expenditure would be by expenditure of a similar amount on possible only by the use of borrowed Grants for Social and Welfare Services funds and by a substantial drawing as a result of the recent legislation. down of our reserves. Subtracting the There is a rise of $4 million in the current account surplus of $89 million revenue from Telecommunications. The there will, if the figure of $420 million import duty on tobacco, cigars and for development expenditure turns out cigarettes on the other hand shows a to be correct, be an overall deficit for drop of $5 million resulting from the 1962 of no less than $331 million of increase in consumption of home manu­ which $212 million will have been met factured cigarettes. Petrol, fuel oils by borrowing and $119 million by the and motor car licence and registration use of surplus balances accumulated fees all showed increases, but a number in past years. of categories of revenue showed slight Turning now to the future, it will be decreases in line with general world noted that total expenditure for 1963 economic conditions. will be about $1,088 million, a rise Ordinary expenditure for 1962 is of $49 million over the original printed expected to reach $1, 102 million, as estimate of $1,039 million for 1962. against the $1,039 million originally The 1963 figure also includes a con­ authorised in the Budget, and $1,122 tribution of $50 million to the Develop­ million if the first two Supplementary ment Fund. Disregarding such capital Supply Bills are included. In giving contributions in both cases, the estimate this forecast I may perhaps be forgiven for 1963 represents a rise of $56 for mentioning that my forecast last million over the latest estimate of year of $944 million as the final actual expenditure for 1962. This expenditure figure for 1961 was only compares with the increase of $94 $5 million off the actual figure of million which took place in recurrent $939 million, as against an error of expenditure (excluding contributions $19 million for the previous year. On to the Development Fund) between the basis of present indications there 1961 and 1962. The House will appre­ should be a deficit of $32 million on ciate that, in order to achieve such a current account for 1962. This includes relatively small increase in the recurrent expenditure of $120 million represent­ estimates for 1963, all Departments ing transfers from revenue to the have been required to exercise the Development Fund, without which greatest restraint in making their there would have been a current expenditure plans for the coming year. account surplus of $89 million. The 1963 revenue, at existing rates of It is now expected that development taxation, is estimated at $1,000 million. expenditure in 1962 will reach a total This would result in an estimated in the region of $420 million as current account deficit of $88 million .. opposed to the figure of $264 million The 1963 Development budget, how­ spent in 1961. This increase, substantial ever, provides for an expenditure of though it is, does no more than con­ $493 million, though actual develop­ firm the forecast made in Command ment expenditure might not exceed Paper No. 52 of 1961 which was tabled $420 million, which is the estimated in this House last December. In that level for this year. Even if we go on Paper the following passage appears: the lower figure, the overall deficit for 1963 would be of the oraer of "It is confidently expected that actual Federal Government investment will surpass $458 million, which is not a figure one the $400 million mark for 1962, ....." can dismiss lightly. The fulfilment of this promise reflects The principal increases and reduc­ great credit both on those responsible tions of expenditure as compared with for the organisation of our efforts under 1962 are set out in paragraphs 4 and the Development Plan and also on those 5 o{ the Treasury Memorandum tabled officers who carried out the work on the as Command Paper No. 42 of 1962. 1633 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1634 Some of the larger items, however, do this calculated risk than to provide too not in fact have such an effect on the lavishly and thus give scope for con­ Federation's finances as might appear tinued increases in the rate of to be the case on paper. I refer parti­ expenditure. In saying this, I wish to cularly to the sum of $12.5 million make it quite clear that I have no under Head Cll, Treasury, which is intention of denying the Ministry of required to meet assignments of iron Education the funds necessary to carry ore duty to State Governments under out all the commitments which have the legislation passed by the House been imposed upon it. The Govern· earlier this year. This is of course ment is fully aware that investment in balanced by a corresponding revenue the education of our people is one of item and represents revenue which had the most important factors in the previously been paid direct to the economic growth of our nation, taking State Governments instead of being the long view. passed through the Federal accounts. I should like to take this opportunity Similarly, the provision of $7.5 million to mention an apparent anomaly in under Head Sl2, Grants for Social the estimates under Head Cl2, Charges and Welfare Services, is balanced by on Account of Public Debt. Honourable equivalent receipts from the Social and Members would naturally expect this Welfare Services Lotteries Board. figure to rise from year to year with Leaving aside these items, the largest the extra loan commitments incurred increase is attributable once again to for the purpose of financing our the Ministry of Education. The increase development plan. In spite of this, under this Head, however, had this however, the figure of $121 million year been held back to the compara­ estimated for 1963 is almost the same tively modest figure of $6.5 million as as the expenditure on this account for against the increase of $34 million 1962. The reason for this is that in which was budgeted for last year. 1962 we made a final payment of $10 Honourable Members will recall that, million to Singapore in respect of the in my speech last December, I stated $30 million loan which was made by that it was obvious that this rate of the Singapore Government to the Fede­ growth in the cost of our education ration in 1954. There is therefore an services could not be permitted to actual rise of $10 million in Public continue unchecked since it was far Debt Charges for 1963. · in excess of the growth of both I referred last year to the introduc­ national income and population. I also tion of a new policy whereby a ceiling stated then that I was assured by the is put on the recurrent expenditure of Ministry of Education that the 1962 each Department within which each increase represented a temporary bulge Head of the Estimates had to be and once the main recommendations framed. As I explained then the , of the Rahman Talib Report had been purpose of this policy was to enable put into effect the annual expenditure recurrent expenditure to be contained would drop to a more acceptable within the projection in the Five-Year figure. It is my firm intention to ensure Plan which allows the recurrent budget that this end is assured and for 1963 to rise to approximately $1,000 million we have therefore allotted to the by 1965. Leaving aside debt repay­ Ministry of Education no more than ments, transfers to the Development the absolute minimum required to Fund and other statutory funds, meet essential commitments. remaining expenditure on current It is possible that the figure of $230 account by the end of 1962 will million which we have allotted for 1963 already have crept up to about $931 may prove inadequate in which case million. In the light of this, the House the House will be asked towards the will appreciate why I have taken such end of the year to approve any supple­ care to limit the increase in the mentary provision which may be recurrent budget for 1963. The required. We have taken the view, "ceiling" policy has again been however, that it is preferable to run followed and, with very minor excep- 1636 1635 28 NOVEMBER 1962 tions, all Ministries and Departments will have to be repaid out of future have kept within the ceilings imposed, taxation. in framing their estimates. The 1963 Development Estimates There has been no change in the provide for an allocation of $493 volume of external loans during 1962 million. In fixing the size of the 1963 other than additional drawings on the Development Estimates, the Govern­ loans from the U.S. Development Loan ment has taken into account the Fund and the United Kingdom credit findings, with respect to 1963, of the for telecommunications. The total of review of the Second Five-Year Plan, funded domestic debt has risen from by the National Development Planning $962.6 million to $1,032.6 million, an Committee in conjunction with experts increase of $70 million which excludes from the World Bank. The provision the sum likely to be received from the recommended will enable the Govern­ loan now in issue. This may total about ment to make further headway towards $138 million and the debt charges on meeting the objects of the Plan, utilise this sum will be about $5.1 million in to the full existing administrative and 1963 thus raising the total cost of the technical capacity, and at the same time public debt to about $126.l million in set the rate of expenditure at a level 1963 which represents 12.3 per cent of which is not in excess of the availability estimated revenue. of funds. The level of public debt charges has The extent to which it is possible risen steadily in recent years and will to accelerate economic development continue to rise in the future as the depends not only on capital investment Second Five-Year Plan envisages but also on making effective use of continuous borrowing throughout the available skilled, professional and period to finance a substantial propor­ administrative manpower. In this tion of the investment required. When context, the contribution of external considering the impact of the debt technical assistance in this respect charges on the Federation's finances it should not be overlooked. Capital aid must be remembered that a con­ and technical assistance provided under siderable sum has been relent to States the auspices of the U.N .• the Colombo and statutory authorities on varying Plan and the U.S. Peace Corps have terms and conditions. At 1st November, helped to fill some of the gaps in 1962, the sum relent was $335 million national manpower resources and and in 1963 it is estimated that $12.1 speeded up progress in the past year. million will be received as interest and $2.3 million as repayment of principal. About 100 U.N. and Colombo Plan The net burden of public debt charges experts are now serving in the Federa­ is therefore $111.7 million. tion in various technical fields includ­ I do not regard the present level of ing engineering, medicine, agriculture, the public debt as unduly excessive as industrial productivity and education, external debt liabilities are acceptable while 116 Peace Corps volunteers in in relation to export earnings. Never­ supplementing greatly needed middle theless, the steady and continued level manpower in the country have growth of the public debt makes it taken up assignments and perform a necessary for me to emphasize, once wide variety of tasks in the social and again, that it is vitally necessary to economic fields. ensure that the bulk of funds raised Apart from technical assistance in by way of loan are spent on projects the form of experts, the Federation which either produce additional income Government has received grants for themselves sufficient to service the scientific, technical and medical equip­ capital involved or else contribute ment from Australia, Canada, New adequately to the growth of national Zealand and the United Kingdom to income. To finance non-income pro­ the value of over $5.7 million during ducing projects from loans, however 1961-62. The number of foreign experts desirable they may be, is to impose an and the volume of capital aid are only unfair burden on posterity as the loans indicators of the immense development 1637 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1638 activity now in progress and much of thing totally unexpected happens in the what is being done will yield full meantime, will throw greatly increased returns in the years to come. financial burdens on our economy. Honourable Members will note that The Government is happy to state the Government has not provided for that it has also become a donor country Malaysia even in the field of economic in making available awards for training development, viz. capital expenditure, in the Federation; in the last 12 months because such a development plan it has provided 24 training places for entails a considerable amount of pre­ officers from abroad. liminary research and groundwork and, The House might have noted that at the moment, we have insufficient the Government has allowed the data on w~ich to· proceed. There is Employees Provident Fund Board to little doubt, however, that the economic lend $5 million to the Borneo Housing development of the territories of the Development Company Limited, subject new Federation will call for greatly to such loan being guaranteed by the increased sacrifices from all if the Sarawak and North Borneo Govern­ promise of accelerated economic growth ments. It was represented to us that consequent on the attainment of these two territories were in urgent Malaysia is to be largely fulfilled. need of this assistance as failing such Foreseeable needs are clearly much assistance they would have to suspend greater than existing financial resources operations almost immediately. In the and the gap will have to be bridged circumstances, it was felt that this either by increased taxation or internal would be a good gesture to make on and external borrowing or most pro­ the eve of Malaysia. Further, the bably by a combination of both. Government, subject to Parliamentary approval, and subject to the successful In this connection, the appointment outcome of the current negotiations, of the World Bank Malaysia Economic has decided to guarantee, and this Mission headed by Monsieur Jacques announcement has been made in the Rueff to inquire into the feasibility of current talks in the Inter-Governmental closer economic co-ordination among Committee, an allocation of $10 million the territories of the new Federation per annum to each of the two territories has come none too soon. It will be for the time being for the purpose of recalled that this Mission is really a economic development. (Applause). It development of the original proposal should be made clear that this amount of the Singapore Government that is not intended to represent either the Common Market arrangements should minimum or the maximum amount be instituted between that territory and which will eventually be made avail­ ourselves. With the advent of Malaysia, able. Whether it would be one or the it was decided, and I think Honour­ other would necessarily depend on the able Members will agree rightly, that situation reached after marrying needs the scope of this enquiry should be to available resources. This is rather extended to include the Borneo terri­ meant to be an earnest of our good tories as well. Monsieur Rueff is not intentions towards our new partners. only an economist of international These two items are indeed a foretaste standing whose name is a household of future requirements in these two word in the capitals of the Western territories which, incidentally, do not world, he is the man who has been possess substantial financial reserves regarded as largely responsible for the though they have a great deal of leeway spectacular economic recovery of to make up in the fields of social and France in recent years. The results of economic development, in comparison his work could have far-reaching effects with the Federation of Malaya. on the economic future of the new Federation, entrusted as he has been It is clear that the creation of with the task of advising the Govern­ Malaysia, which will become a reality ment on fundamental questions, such some time in 1963 but not .later than as Common Market arrangements, 31st August next year, unless some- tariffs and trade, industrial develop- 1640 1639 28 NOVEMBER 1962 ment. the maintenance of the entrepot modest start initially. and provided trade of Singapore and Penang, and we maintain our present financial other economic questions. I am sure policies. In particular, it is essential, the House will wish me to place on for obvious reasons, that we do not run record the Government's sincere grati­ down our reserves . to such an extent tude to the World Bank for placing that our creditworthiness is impaired. his services at our disposal for the Other factors which would have a purpose of undertaking this monu­ significant bearing on our creditworthi­ mental task. (Applause). ness would be the amount of our internal and external public debt. and Apart from economic development, the trend of our balance of payments. Malaysia will also entail additional and how these figures will be affected defence commitments. Malaya itself by the establishment of Malaysia. I has a coast line of about 1,200 miles have used the term '"modest start and we are separated from the Borneo initially" because when you are new to territories by something like 1,000 miles a market it would be quite unrealistic of water. There will therefore be the to expect a large loan. You must put problem of vastly extended communica­ tions to cope with. This might mean yourself on the financial map, so to that the mobility of our Armed Forces speak, and make yourself known to would be a primary consideration in potential investors or lenders first. future defence planning. Preliminary Only when this step has been com­ studies of this subject have already pleted, would it be possible to float been made by a working party. and the sizable loans with reasonable prospects probable level of costs, both recurrent of success. and capital. submitted. It is the inten­ I now turn to the taxation proposals tion to seek aid from at least the for 1963 (Laughter). A number of United Kingdom on this score, in view adjustments are being made to the of the fact that the absorption of this Customs tariff. The Customs Duties burden by the new Federation will Order implementing these changes lighten the load of the United Kingdom takes effect from 4 p.m. today and correspondingly in the future. It is well copies of it should be or will be before to remember, however, that money Hon'ble Members. The majority of spent on defence will mean that much these changes are designed to rectify less spent on economic and social deve­ anomalies or to improve the method lopment, and we in Malaya have been of classification where this has been able to proceed more rapidly with the shown to be necessary in the light of latter chiefly because we have chosen experience gained in operating the new to spend the minimum on the former tariff structure introduced by the consistent with safety. Hitherto, defence Customs Duties Order, 1961. Certain expenditure has not exceeded 10 per changes have been made to assist cent of our ordinary budget and we domestic producers and manufacturers should strive, for the reason I have but two major changes have been made given above, to keep such expenditure with a view to bringing in more revenue. to this level. No major changes have been made in the tariff as regards duties on exports. During my recent trip overseas in As regards imports, I propose to deal connection with the annual meetings with concessions first. and increases of the World Bank and the Interna­ thereafter (Laughter). As far as possible tional Monetary Fund, I took the I will follow the order in which the opportunity to discuss with Government authorities and commercial bankers in items appear in the tariff. Bonn, London and New York the The duty on fish-paste and similar possibility of our raising commercial preparations. such as otak udang, but loans in the capital markets of those excluding blachan, is being reduced three countries. These discussions have from 25 per cent ad valorem to nil in led me to believe that we might be order to assist small producers on able to make a start in this field in the Penang I~land who export a large new year though it will have to be a proportion of their production to the 1641 28 NOVEMBER 1962 .1642 Principal Customs Area, that is the 1962 is likely to be of the order of mainland of the Federation of Malaya. $148,000. This will cost the revenue about $5,000 a year. It is estimated that these concessions will cost the revenue a total of $97 ,000 ~ The duty on white lead in oil and per annum. aluminium paste is being reduced from 20 per cent ad valorem to nil in order I now tum to the increases in import to encourage our domestic paint indus­ duty which are being imposed. try to use these commodities, rather A new duty of 12 cents per lb full, than the more toxic and dangerous and 10 cents per lb preferential is being alternatives which at present enter free imposed on essences and concentrates of duty, thus helping to improve of tea in order to check unfair competi· working conditions in this industry. tion to our domestic tea growing This concession will, however, mean a industry from new, imported products revenue loss of $50,000 a year. such as "Instant Tea". This is expected The duty on medicinal preparations to bring in $20,000 a year. for veterinary use, at present 25 per The duty on charcoal is being raised cent ad valorem, is being reduced to nil from $5 to $10 per ton in order to in order to encourage the domestic assist domestic industry which is poultry and livestock industries to use having great difficulty in competing modem drugs with a view not only with low-priced imports. This is ex­ to improving the quality of the live­ pected to bring in $10,000 a year. stock but also in order to increase productivity. This concession will cost A new duty on expanded metal of us $25,000 a year. iron and steel is being imposed at the rate of $70 per ton as these products The duty on wood flour has been compete with iron and steel grills and reduced from 20 per cent ad valorem to reinforcing fabric which at present pay nil in order to assist domestic manu­ duty at $70 per ton by virtue of Tariff facturers of joss sticks to compete with Item No. 693 313. This again is a the imported finished products which protective measure asked for by domes­ are at present allowed duty-free entry. tic industry and should bring in $35,000 This concession will cost us $10,000 a a year. year. The duty on fountain and ball point We are imposing an additional pens attd propelling pencils is being duty of $1 per lb on unmanufactured reduced from 25 per cent to 10 per cent tobacco, cigarettes and manufactured ad valorem. There are indications that, tobacco, at both full and preferential owing to the ease with which these rates. They will, therefore, now be as articles can be hidden, fair quantities follows: are being smuggled into the Federation, Unmanufactured $ 8.60 per lb full tobacco and I hope that this reduction in duty 8.40 per lb preferen· will lead to a sharp decline in smugg­ tial ling without affecting the revenue Cigarettes . . . H.50 per lb full unduly. Last year, as Honourable 11.00 per lb preferen· Members may recall, we reduced the tial duty on watches and I am glad to say Manufactured 9.00 per lb full and that this reduction has not resulted in tobacco preferential a significant decline in revenue and I Recently, there has been a substantial hope that a smilarly satisfactory result increase in the domestic manufacture will be obtained from this reduction. I of cigarettes, with a consequent decline say this, because although the duty on in imports, and the Government wishes watches was slashed by more than half to encourage this developm(;!nt. Never­ at the last Budget meeting, the loss in theless, as the rate of duty on tobacco, revenue will probably be less than both manufactured and unmanufac­ 10 per cent. While we collected tured, is less than that on cigarettes $161,000 in 1961, the estimated yield for there has been a substantial decline in 1644 1643 28 NOVEMBER 1962 the revenue from tobacco generally rise in graduated stages according to despite an increase in consumption. the horse power of the vehicle. This There is no valid reason why the increase should bring in an additional domestic manufacture of cigarettes $3.5 million a year. Where licences should lead to a reduction in revenue have already been issued at the old and the Government is, therefore, rates, it is not proposed to enforce raising the duty on both tobacco and payment of the additional amounts due cigarettes by an equal amount, thus under the new Gazette Notification. retaining the incentive for the domestic I should add that the Singapore manufacture of cigarettes, which arises Government has agreed to fall in line from the difference between the duty with the Federation in regard to the applicable to tobacco as compared with increase in the import duty on petrol that on cigarettes. We are not at present and the annual licence fees for motor raising the rate of excise payable on vehicles. It has agreed to do so as home produced tobacco, but if the wide these are Federal taxes. This would difference between the excise and the also reduce the temptation on the part import duty gives rise to an increase in of owners of vehicles from registering the consumption of domestic tobacco them or filling them up with petrol in at the expense of imports, we may Singapore in order to avoid paying have to consider an increase in the higher levies in the Federation. I am excise, which is at the very low rate of sure the House would like me to say 25 cents per lb. It is estimated that that we appreciate this co-operation on these higher duties on tobacco and the part of the Government of cigarettes will yield an additional Singapore. I should also add that in revenue of about $10.5 million per both the Federation and in Singapore, annum and its effect on the price of buses will be exempted from the pro­ cigarettes will be about 5 cents per posed increase in motor vehicle annual packet of 20 which should be bearable. licence fees. This will mean that that The duty on petrol will go up by a section of the population which has to further 10 cents per gallon from its rely on public transport, and they are present level of $1.20 per gallon. The largely in the lower income groups, Government thinks that this is a fair will not be affected by this additional imposition as it will be paid by those levy. who can best afford to pay, and the amount of the payment should be in As I stated previously, several minor proportion to one's ability to pay. This amendments to the tariff are being higher levy should bring in an addi­ made in the light of experience gained tional $6 million per annum. since the new tariff structure was brought into force by Customs Duties The new and additional duties pro­ Order, 1961; the items concerned are posed under the Customs tariff should rusks, thymol, phenol, certain inorganic benefit the revenue by $16.6 million a chemicals classified under Item No. 514 year. Taking into account the conces­ 109, plant hormones, glues, certain cast sions on the other side, i.e. the abolition iron products, chairs, certain types of or reduction of existing duties, the net footwear and sugar. gain to the revenue should be of the order of $16.5 million per annum. The amendments to the tariff dealing Further, it is also intended to with sugar are not for the purpose of increase annual licence fees on motor increasing revenue but are designed to facilitate classification, and thus over­ vehicles by 10 per cent. The Gazette come difficulties experienced in the Notification implementing this decision past in connection with unrefined sugars is being published today and will take which had been subjected to certain effect as from 1st December this year. a The effect of this imposition should degree of processing and blending in also be proportionate to one's means order to raise their sucrose content. for, as Honourable Members are Two minor amendments are being already aware, these fees are lowest made to the schedule of export duties in the case of the smallest cars and whereby ores and concentrates of 1645 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1646 thorium including monazite, and ores which, although it will cost something and concentrates of uranium will be in tax revenue, is designed to help the classified separately and not under the economy in another respect. item "other ores" as at present. I shall be introducing legislation, At present, duty on iron ore is effective from the first of January next, charged on the value of each shipment to exempt from tax the annual value as shown in the final sales documents. of residential property which is occu­ This system involves a considerable pied by the owner. (Applause). amount of detailed work by Customs The Alliance Government has on and also provides opportunities for many occasions declared itself in under-declaration of value. I propose favour of any reasonable steps which therefore from 1963 to gazette a value could promote the development in for iron ore for payment .of duty pur­ this country of true and responsible poses as is the present practice for democracy. To this end the Govern­ rubber, tin, palm oil and copra. I am ment wishes to encourage the growth aware that the value of shipments of home ownership. In this way more varies mainly in accordance with the and more people will have a stake in Fe content, but after extensive enquiry the country. I am satisfied that the imposition of a uniform value for duty purposes will The encouragement of home owner­ not cause hardship to the industry and ship will incidentally help to promote will greatly facilitate the task of house building by private enterprise. collection. Apart from creating additional activity and employment in the building The actual value to be used for diity industry the ultimate effect should be purposes will be gazetted when further to increase the total supply of living details of 1963 contract prices have accommodation for the community as been ascertained. a whole and supplement the efforts of It may be necessary in the course Government in this direction. of next year to make further changes The income tax relief I have just in the tariff. These changes will how­ referred to will mean that where an ever be made solely for the purpose of individual has bought or built himself protecting the pioneer and other manu­ a house in which to make his home the facturing industries which have asked income tax man will no longer regard for various measures of protection. the ownership of his residence as a Their examination has however not source of income. The exemption will been completed and hence it has not however extend to one such property been possible to dispose of them in only. If you retain a residence in Kuala this Budget. Lumpur, a beach house in Port I turn now to the question of income Dickson, and a hill station bungalow tax and once again I have good news in Cameron Highlands, only one for taxpayers. You will recall that in of these will qualify for exemption. last year's Budget I maintained the (Laughter). status quo as far as rates of tax and As I have said, I shall be giving up reliefs were concerned. At the same a certain amount of revenue, about time I announced increased rates of $700,000 a year under existing circums­ depreciation in respect of planting tances, but I consider the objective to and tin mining to encourage the fur­ be well worth the cost. ther development of those industries which are still the main props of the The second point on which I wish nation's economy. to deal concerns a rather complicated feature of our income tax legislation, This year I am again in the happy that is the provisions regarding the position of announcing that there will basis of assessment on commencement be no changes in tax rates and reliefs. and cessation of a source of income. (Applause). Once again however I am I would like to see some simplication making a proposal for a new tax relief of these provisions and have instructed 1647 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1648 that the matter be thoroughly inves­ burden the weight of the burden is tigated. I am informed that there mitigated if it can be spread, by means would be substantial administrative of instalments, over the whole of the difficulties involved in making a change tax year. · · and that not the least problem would To limit the administrative work for be to maintain equity while closing all the first year the deduction scheme will, possible loop-holes for tax avoidance as I have said, apply compulsorily only during the transition to a new system. to those whose tax exceeds $50 per I am however anxious that something month. Other employees whose tax bill should be done in this direction and is smaller will be permitted to · apply have asked that a start should be made voluntarily to have the scheme applied with salaried employment. I want to to them. In addition, where voluntary see some form of Pay As You Earn arrangements have already been made system inaugurated so that an for monthly deductions from 1963 employee's income tax can be deducted salaries, those will normally be allowed in instalments from each payment of to stand. his monthly salary. In future years it is intended to bring This system of monthly payments, all employees into the scheme and which is sometimes optimistically transform it into a full-scale P.A.Y.E. referred to by hire purchase traders as system whereby monthly deduction the "Easy Payments" system, is in my corresponds as closely as possible to view preferable to the annual issue of the actual tax liability on the salary in a bill for a full year's tax. To instal question. As far as next year is con­ a full-scale P.A.Y.E. system in one cerned, it is recognised that there may operation " would impose a major be certain teething troubles, even with administrative burden on the Income a limited scheme. Any employee whose Tax Department which is already tax exceeds $600 and who considers heavily committed to the anti-evasion that, because of circumstances peculiar drive. I have therefore decided that a to his case, the compulsory deduction P.A.Y.E. system should be introduced scheme may cause him hardship in stages, the first of which will should write to the Income Tax commence in January, 1963. From Departmentl at Suleiman Building, January, a system of monthly deduc­ Kuala Lumpur, if possible before 31st tions will be inaugurated so that all December, making his own proposals salary earners whose income tax for tax payment. His representations amounts to $600 per year (that is will be sympathetically considered and $50 per month) or more will have their I have asked that the position generally tax deducted from their salaries by be closely watched so as to ensure that their employers. any difficulties or anomalies connected The deductions in the first instance with the new procedure can be quickly will be a provisional figure, based on dealt with. approximately 1/12 of the tax payable There is one further point I wish to for 1962, and will commence in mention. Income tax is regarded all January. As soon as the 1963 assess­ over the world as a somewhat com­ ment has been determined however the plicated subject and the Federation deductions will be adjusted so that system is no exception. The staff of the the total deductions for the year will Income Tax Department are of course be equal to the total tax for the year. always ready to explain points to The advantage of this change will taxpayers either by letter or interview be obvious. It will enable employees to but in many other countries an keep up to date with their tax liabili­ explanatory booklet is available and I ties. No longer will they feel unduly have asked that a booklet on prosperous in the early part of the year Federation Income Tax should be only to feel impoverished in the latter prepared for the use of taxpayers in part of the year after the income tax this country. This booklet is in an bill has arrived. Government recognises advanced state of preparation and will that while income tax is a necessary 1Je p:.iblished shortly. 1649 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1650 When the Betting and Sweepstake social measure. Owing to the pressure Duties (Amendment) Bill, 1957, was on the Parliamentary Draftsman's time moved in the then Legislative Council it has not been possible for the Govern­ in November, 1957, it was stated that ment to carry out its original plan to the percentage of duty on sweepstakes effect a complete revision of the law, would be reduced from the 20 per cent though it is still hoped to do so in due rate then prevailing to 15 per cent as course. from 1st December, 1957. It was, however, also made clear at the same Nevertheless, we propose to make a time that should circumstanceS; change. major change at the beginning1 of next it should be possible to increase the year by amending the Schedule to the rate of duty again. It is now proposed present Ordinance in such a manner that the rate of duty on sweepstakes as to provide that employers employ­ should be restored to the original ing 3 or more persons would be figure of 20 per cent as from 1st required to contribute to the Fund December, 1962, although a maximum together with their employees and to rate of 30 per cent is allowed under proceed thereafter as rapidly as is the Betting and Sweepstake Duties practicable to include all employers Ordinance, 1948. It is estimated that at and employees. At the moment, the this higher rate, it will be possible to Ordinance does not cover firms or collect an additional duty of approxi­ organisations employing less than mately $300,000 a year. 5 persons. It is expected that contribu­ tions in respect of employers employing At the same time it is proposed to 3 or more persons will become payable increase the duty on bets from the in May next on the April wages from present long standing rate of 10 per cent which employers will be pl!tmitted to to 15 per cent. It is estimated that on make the necessary deductions. this new basis, the total duty on bets and "3 digits" would amount to some Further, it is the view of the $7 million a year. The overall effect of Government that the present arrange­ these increases in the rate of duty on ment whereby persons earning over sweepstakes and bets would be an $400 per month are in certain additional income of some $2.6 million circumstances exempted from the per annum. The present income from provisions of the Ordinance excludes these sources is about $5.5 ·million. a number of persons who should be I stated earlier that the net result of entitled to its benefits and it is intended the proposed tariff changes will be to raise this limit from $400 to $500 a gain of $16.5 million per annum to per month. the revenue. Additional annual licence Powers will be given to the Emplo­ fees on motor vehicles will bring in a yees' Providen.t Fund Board to require further $3.5 million a year. Income tax employers to register with. them in changes will cost the Government anticipation of the eayments. to be $700,000 a year. The increases in the made in May and while it will not be percentage of duty on sweepstakes, possible to legislate for this power bets and ''3 digits" will bring in earlier than January, 1963, all em­ another $2.6 million per annum. The ployers, however few the number of total net gain to the revenue from all employees they have, are asked to the changes proposed in this Budget co-operate by registering as early as will therefore be of the order of $22 possible after 1st January, 1963, even million per annum. The estimated total though the necessary legislation may revenue for 1963 is thus increased from not be in force then. The Board of $1,000 million to $1,022 million. the Fund is arranging for a simple The House will recaU that in 1960 I registration document to be available at stated that it was our intention to all post offices and offices of the Minis­ extend the coverage of the Employees' try of Labour on 1st January, 1963, Provident Fund Ordinance so as even­ and the fullest possible publicity will tually to bring all employed persons be given so that employers will know under the umbrella of this valuable exactly what to do. 1651 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1652 If I may put it as briefty as possible, partly by drawing on accumulated our financial position must compel us reserves and partly by fresh loans, both to exercise the greatest restraint and internal and external. This is a sobering care in regard to expenditure. Although prospect. our surplus on current account in 1960 As I have said already, such a pros­ was $239 million, our overall surplus pect can only be faced with equanimity i.e. after deducting capital or develop­ if the development projects financed ment budget expenditure was only in this way lead to an increase of $98 million, and it should be remem­ national income, i.e., are of economic bered that this was the kind of boom value. To accept any other course year which we are not likely to see would lay us open, and rightly so, to again. Rubber prices then reached the a charge of grave financial irresponsi­ $1.40 mark, and tin fetched an average bility, the adverse consequences of price of £797 per ton in that year. which would ultimately be felt in the Where rubber is concerned, the threat political sphere, because financial and of synthetic, and progressive releases economic instability inevitably leads to from the U.S. strategic stockpile will political instability eventually. It is ensure that this sort of level is not also equally important that all measures likely to be reached again in our life­ should be taken to accelerate capital time, and it is unnecessary to add that investment in the private sector of our rubber plays bY' far the most important economy. Investment in the public role in our economy. sector is only a means to an end. The It should also be remembered that end must be to stimulate adequate in that ye¥ we spent only $141 million investment in the private sector upon on capital account. Future expenditure which must depend our ability to on this account will be at least twice, maintain our present level of prosperity, if not three times this amount. If, for let alone increase it. example, we had spent in 1960 the Sir, I beg to move. (Applause). sum of $400 million, which is the approximate annual average envisaged The Deputy Prime Minister (Tun for the Second Five-Year Plan, we Haji Abdul Razak): Sir, I beg to second would be in the red by $161 million, the motion. and, as I have stated already, that was an exceptionally good year. Last year Mr Speaker: Honourable Members, after providing only $264 million for in accordance wi.th the provisions of capital expenditure our overall deficit Standing Order 66 (2), the debate on was $70 million. This year, after pro­ the motion for the Second Reading of viding $420 million for capital expen­ the Supply Bill will be adjourned for diture our overall deficit will be $331 two days till Saturday, 1st December, million. Next year's deficit would be 1962. about $436 million. Assuming rates of The House will now adjourn till taxation remain unchanged in the ten o'clock tomorrow. future, it will be seen that this shortfall in revenue will have to be made up Adjourned at 4.30 p.m. 1653 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1654 WRITTEN ANSWERS TO dan Sharikat2 Kerjasama berapa QUESTIONS bilangan Sharikat2 Kerjasama Jual Menjual (Co-operative Marketing MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE Societies) untok menjuaJ kelapa kering, getah dan kopi yang telah di-dirikan AND CO-OPERATIVES dalam tahun 1960, 1961 dan 1962 dan 2 Difficulties of Fishermen at Kuala Kedah berapa buah daripada Sharikat ini and Kuala Perils yang telah tutup. 1. Tuan Haji Hasan Adli bin Haji Enche' Mohamed Khir bin Johari: Arshad bertanya kapada Menteri Per­ Bilangan Sharikat2 Kerjasama Jual tanian dan Sharikat2 Kerjasama ada­ Menjual (Co-operative Marketing kah Kerajaan sedar atas kesusahan2 Societies) untok menjual kelapa kering, yang di-alami oleh nelayan2 di-Kuala getah dan kopi yang telah di-dirikan Kedah dan Kuala Perlis akibat dari­ dalam tahun 1960, 1961 dan 1962 ada­ pada belat2 pok yang di-pasang oleh lah saperti berikut: taukeh2 China dan jika ya, terangkan apa tindakan2 yang telah di-jalankan Jenis Sharikat2 Pendaftaran bagi mengatasi kesusahan2 tersebut. 1960 1961 1962 Sharikat2 Kelapa Kering ... 1 1 1 2 Menteri Pertanian dan Sharikat Sharikat2 Kopi 1 Kerjasama (Enche' Mohamed Khir bin Persatuan Menjual Kopi Johari): Kerajaan memang sedar betul2 akan kesusahan2 yang di-alami oleh ka-Pasar I kaum nelayan di-Kedah dan di-Perlis. Sharikat2 Getah ... 21 25 31 Hasil daripada lawatan Menteri Per­ 2 Di-antara sharikat2 yang tersebut di­ tanian ka-Kedah dan Perlis baharu atas hanya sa-buah sahaja~ Sharikat ini, sa-buah Surohanjaya Penyiasat Getah telah di-tutup dalam tahun 1961. sudah pun di-tubohkan sekarang untok membuat shor2 yang kemudian akan di-pertimbangkan oleh Kerajaan. Co-operative Societies for production of Coconut Oil and Coffee Beans Legislation for Control and Regulation of Fishing 4. Tuan Haji Ahmad bin Abdullah bertanya kapada Menteri Pertanian 2. Tuan Haji Hasan Adli bin Haji dan Sharikat2 Kerjasama ada-kah Arshad bertanya kapada Menteri Per­ Kerajaan telah mendirikan kilang2 tanian dan Sharikat2 Kerjasama ada­ Sharikat Kerjasama untok mengeluar­ kah Kerajaan boleh menimbangkan kan minyak kelapa, dan kilang satu Undang2 mengawal dan mengator 2 (processing plants) untok mengeluarkan perusahaan menangkap ikan supaya kopi No. 1 dan 2 dari biji2 kopi ·yang dapat melindongi kepentingan nelayan2 yang menjalankan perusahaan2 ber­ di-tanam dalam Tanah Melayu. sendirian yang kechil2; jika boleh, bila Enche' Mohamed Khir bin Johari: Undang2 saperti itu akan di-adakan. Sa-hingga masa ini, belum ada. Enche' Mohamed Khir bin Johari: Suatu rang undang2 baharu. Rang Undang2 Perikanan akan di-bawa dan MINISTRY OF COMMERCE AND di-timbangkan dalam Meshuarat INDUSTRY Dewan Ra'ayat yang akan bersidang dalam penggal sekarang ini. Dalam Assistance under the Rubber Replanting Rang Undang2 ini ada terkandong Scheme sharat2 bagi mengadakan peratoran2 2 2 S•. Tuan Haji Hassan bin Haji Ahmad dan menetapkan jalan menjaga chara bertanya kapada Menteri Perdagangan menangkap ikan. dan Perusahaan ada-kah Kerajaan sedar bahawa sa-bahagian daripada pekebun Co-operative Marketing Societies kechil yang telah mendapat bantuan 3. Tuan Haji Ahmad bin Abdullah menanam getah sa-mula itu tidak dapat bertanya kapada Menteri Pertanian menjayakan kerja-nya dengan sa-penoh- 1656 1655 28 NOVEMBER 1962 nya, dan jika demikian tidak-kah dapat Dr Lim Swee Aun: Berapa sa-benar­ pehak Kerajaan mengkaji sa-mula nya jumlah luas kebun2 kechil, yan~ supaya dapat di-adakan satu kaedah tiap2 satu-nya 5 ekar dan kurang dan yang lebeh menasabah dan memberi S ekar luas-nya tidak di-ketahui. Jum­ lebeh munafaat kapada pekebun2 kechil lah luas kebun2 kechil yang telah di­ itu sendiri. terima untok di-tanam sa-mula di-bawah Ranchangan Kumpulan Wang "B" Menteri Perdagangan dan Perusahaan (Ranchangan Menanam Sa-mula bagi (Dr Lim Swee Aun): Bantuan wang Pekebun2 Kechi!) saperti pada 31hb kapada semua pekebun2 kechil yang December, 1961, ia-lah 154,690 ekar. masok Ranchangan No. 3 bagi Pen­ tadbiran Kumpulan Wang "B" (di-sebut Daripada jumlah ini, (a) 8,669 buah juga Ranchangan Menanam Sa-mula kebun2 yang jumlah luas-nya ia-lah bagi Pekebun2 Kechil) telah di-tambah 25,304 ekar, ada-lah pechahan2 dari­ baharu2 ini sa-banyak $50 bagi tiap2 pada kebun2 besar yang tiap2 satu satu ekar, jadi $750 bagi tiap2 satu ada-lah lebeh daripada 100 ekar luas­ ekar, bagi pekebun2 yang mempunyai nya; dan (b) 23,144 buah kebun2 yang tanah kurang daripada 5 ekar luas~nya. jumlah luas-nya ia-lah 54,189 ekar Dengan sebab itu pada timbangan telah menerima oantuan yang ke-5 Kerajaan bantuan yang di-beri itu menurut Ranchangan Menanam Sa­ memadai-lah bagi pekebun2 kechil mula. dapat menjayakan usaha menanam sa­ mula tanah-nya. MINISTRY OF EDUCATION

Acreage of Rubber Small-holdinp and Area Religious Teachers in Secondary .Schools Replanted 8. Tuan Haji Hasan Adli bin Haji 6. Dato' Mohamed Hanifah bin Haji Anhad bertanya kapada Menteri Pela­ Abdul Ghani bertanya kapada Menteri jaran: Perdagangan dan Perusahaan berapa jumlah luas kebun getah kechil dalam (a) berapa jumlah Guru2 Ugama Persekutuan Tanah Melayu dan berapa Sekolah Menengah yang ber­ jumlah luas yang telah di-tanam sa­ jawatan tetap ; mula. (b) berapa yang berjawatan semen­ Dr Lim Swee Aun: Menurut Buku tara, yang· berkhidmat pada Kechil Angka2 Kebun Getah Tahun masa ini di-Sekolah2 Menengah. 1961, jumlah luas kebun2 kechil dalam Persekutuan ia-lah 1,986,000 ekar. Menteri Pelajaran (Haji Abdul Hamid Khan bin Haji Sakhawat Ali Jumlah luas kebun2 kechil yang Khan): Bilangan guru2 ugama Sekolah sudah di-tanam sa-mula di-bawah Ran­ Menengah yang mengajar di-tiap2 changan Kumpulan Wang "B" hingga Negeri ada-lah saperti berikut: 31hb October, 1962, ia-lah 522,483 ekar. Perlis ...... 5 Kedah ...... 22 7. Dato' Mohamed Hanifah bin Haji Abdul Ghani bertanya kapada Menteri Penang ...... 14 Perdagangan dan Perusahaan berapa Perak ...... 48 luas kebun getah kechil yang lima ekar Selangor ...... 4 ka-bawah, berapa luas yang telah di­ Negeri Sembilan . . . 12 tanam sa-mula dan daripada yang telah Malacca ...... IO tertanam sa-mula itu: Johor ...... 6 (a) berapa ekar jumlah semua tanah2 Pahang ...... 6 yang telah di-pechah2kan (frag­ mentation) yang berasal dari Trengganu ...... 7 kebun2 besar; Kelantan ...... 25 (b) berapa luas-nya yang telah ber­ Kuala Lumpur . . . Tidak ada jaya hingga dapat bantuan yang Semua guru2 yang di-atas ini tidak kelima. dalam jawatan tetap. 1657 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1658 9. Tuan Haji Hasan Adli bin Haji jaran apa sharat2 yang di-kehendaki Arsflad bertanya kapada Menteri Pela­ jika ada, bagi penuntut2 Sekolah jaran berapa anggaran bilangan Guru2 Menengah Melayu di-Singapura, mana­ Ugama Sekolah Menengah, tetap atau kala mereka hendak masok Peperek­ sementara, yang di-jangka akan di­ saan Sijil Persekutuan Tanah Melayu. ambil dalam tahun 1963 akan datang bagi tiap2 Negeri. Tuan Haji Abdul Hamid Khan bin Haji Sakhawat Ali Khan: Sharat2-nya Tuan Haji Abdul Hamid Khan bin ada-lah saperti dalam peratoran2 ber­ Haji Sakhawat Ali Khan: Sa-bagai­ chap bagi Pepereksaan Sijil Perseku­ mana yang di-terangkan dalam jawapan tuan, ia-itu chalun2 di-terima sa-bagai saya bagi soalan yang dahulu, guru2 chalun2 sekolah jikalau mereka di­ ugama yang akan di-ambil dalam hantar oleh sa-sabuah sekolah yang tahun 1963 tidak akan di-masokkan di-sahkan sa-bagai Sekolah Menengah sa-bagai guru2 yang berjawatan tetap. Melayu. Yang lain2-nya akan di­ A.nggaran bilangan guru2 ugama yang masokkan sa-bagai chalun2 bersendirian akan di-ambil dalam tahun 1963 ada­ (private) jika mereka lulus dalam lah saperti berikut: Pereksa Duga. Perlis ...... 2 12. Tuan Haji Hasan Adli bin Haji Kedah ...... 4 Arshad bertanya kapada Menteri Pela­ Penang ...... 4 jaran ada-kah Kerajaan telah menerima Perak ...... 4 daripada Kerajaan Singapura sukatan pelajaran Sekolah Menengah Geylang Selangor ...... 12 Craft Centre, Singapura, jika ada, ada­ Negeri Sembilan ... 6 kah sukatan pelajaran itu chukup Malacca ...... 3 taraf-nya bagi membolehkan penuntut2 sekolah itu masok Pepereksaan Sijil Johor ...... 45 Persekutuan dengan tidak payah di-uji Pa hang ...... 20 terlebeh dahulu . Trengganu ...... 5 Tuan Haji Abdul Hamid Khan bin Kelantan ...... 2 Haji Sakhawat Ali Khan: Sukatan2 Kuala Lumpur ... 15 Pelajaran itu tidak ada di-terima oleh Kementerian ini. Peratoran ini tidak-lah GEYLANG CRAFT CENTRE SECON· di-kehendaki, memandang kapada DARY SCHOOL, SINGAPORE jawapan yang sudah.

Students to sit for Federation of Malaya Certificate Examination Batu Pabat English School 10. Tuan Haji Hasan Adli bin Haji 13. Tuan Syed Esa bin Alwee bertanya Arshad bertanya kapada Menteri Pela­ kapada Menteri Pelajaran bila jaran ada-kah Kerajaan telah mene­ bangunan atap dalam kawasan Sekolah rima permohonan daripada Kerajaan Inggeris Batu Pahat itu akan di-roboh­ Singapura meminta supaya penuntut2 kan dan di-ganti dengan suatu Melayu tahun empat Sekolah Mene­ bangunan yang lebeh besar mengikut ngah Geylang Craft Centre, Singapura, jumlah bilangan kanak2• di-benarkan masok Pepereksaan Sijil Tuan Haji Abdul Hamid Khan bin Persekutuan Tanah Melayu, dan jika Haji Sakhawat Ali Khan: A.da lima ada, bila-kah permohonan itu di-terima. buah bangunan bagi sekolah ini. Dari­ 2 Tuan Haji Abdul Hamid Khan bin pada lima buah bangunan ini hanya Haji Sakhawat Ali J{han: Permohonan sa-buah sahaja yang beratap dan ada yang demikian telah di-terima oleh 4 bilek darjah. Bangunan ini maseh Kementerian ini pada 27hb A.pril, baik lagi keadaan-nya serta boleh di­ 1962. pakai beberapa tahun lagi. Tidak terang apa yang di-maksudkan oleh A.hli Yang 11. Tuan Haji Hasan Adli bin Haji Berhormat akan perkataan "to accom­ Arshad bertanya kapada Menteri Pela- modate all the pupils" dalam per- 1660 1659 28 NOVEMBER 1962 tanyaan-nya. Jika maksud-nya supaya sekolah itu dapat menambah pelajaran­ semua murid2 sekolah itu di-tempatkan nya lagi. dalam sa-buah bangunan tetap yang lebeh besar lagi maka harus-lah lama Tuan· Haji Abdul Hamid Khan bin lagi baharu di-robohkan semua bangu­ Haji Sakhawat Ali Khan: Kerajaan memang sedar benar2 akan keadaan nan2 ini yang maseh terlalu baik lagi 2 keadaan-nya, dan di-gantikan dengan ini dan telah siap membuat ranchangan hendak memberi pelajaran kapada sa-buah bangunan tetap yang lebeh 2 besar lagi. Jika ramai kanak2 masok murid2 dalam kelas menengah lanjutan. sekolah boleh-lah sekolah itu di­ Boleh-kah kira-nya saya menarek perbesarkan. perhatian Ahli Yang Berhormat itu kapada ranchangan2 Kerajaan dalam Bab IV dalam Penyata Jawatan-Kuasa National Language Teachers Penyemak Pelajaran, 1960. 14. Tuan Syed Esa bin Alwee bertanya kapada Menteri Pelajaran berapa orang Classes in Schools on Fridays in Johore guru daripada bangsa China dan Tamil 16. Tuan Syed Esa bin Alwee bertanya yang mengajar Bahasa Kebangsaan kapada Menteri Pelajaran apa sebab­ dalam Sekolah2 Kebangsaan dan berapa nya ada beberapa buah Sekolah J enis orang Guru Melayu yang mengajar Kebangsaan di-buka pada hari Juma'at dalam Sekolah2 Jenis Kebangsaan dalam negeri J ohor pada hal hari hingga akhir bulan September tahun Juma'at itu kelepasan 'am. ini. Tuan Haji Abdul Hamid Khan bin Tuan Haji Abdul Hamid Khan bin Haji Sakhawat Ali Khan: Sa-tengah2 Haji Sakhawat Ali Khan: Ada sembilan Sekolah J enis Kebangsaan dalam negeri orang guru2 China dan India yang Johor sa-belum Merdeka telah di-benar mengajar bahasa Melayu dalam Se­ mengadakan kelas2 pada hari Juma'at kolah2 Kebangsaan. Bilangan Guru2 dan pada masa itu Kerajaan J ohor Melayu yang mengajar sa-penoh masa sendiri yang bertanggong-jawab dalam dalam Sekolah2 Jenis Kebangsaan hal pelajaran. Atoran ini maseh di­ hingga bulan September tahun ini ia­ ikut hingga sekarang. lah sa-ramai 3,209 orang. Graduates from Technical College Further Education for Rural Primary School 17. Tuan Haji Ahmad bin Abdullah Leavers bertanya kapada Menteri Pelajaran 2 15. Tuan Syed Esa bin Alwee bertanya berapa bilangan penuntut yang telah kapada Menteri Pelajaran ada-kah lulus pepereksaan akhir Kolej Teknik dalam tahun 1961 dan 1962 dan apa Kementerian Pelajaran sedar beribu2 2 kanak2 yang tidak dapat masok Sekolah pelajaran yang mereka lulus dan siapa Menengah itu terbiar dengan meng­ nama penuntut2 itu. habiskan masa-nya bermain2 sahaja. Tuan Haji Abdul Hamid Khan bin Ada-kah apa2 langkah yang hendak di­ Haji Sakhawat Ali Khan: Keterangan jalankan supaya kanak2 yang maseh yang di-kehendaki ada-lah saperti di­ kechil dan yang patut di-bangku bawah ini: NAMA PENUNTUT2-1961

CIVIL ENGINEERING Lim Yong Keat Lim Khooi Khye Tan Jin Tun Teh Hong Kia Kamarul Zaman bin Md. Ali Ong Tit Hin M. Sundarajah Seow Siak Yong David Stephen Fernandez Gurkishen Kumar Bangah Joseph Lau Yuen Patt Wong Yoon Min Khoo Theam Hooi Yoon Yuen Wah Lam Wah Thong S. Selvanayagam 1661 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1662

CIVIL ENGINEERING-(cont.) Hong Tat lee Ng Yoke Seng Lee Beng Seong Cheng Kam Yuen Lim Chin Tian S. Sivananthan Sarjit Singh Sandhu T. Sivaganabalan Thomas Ng Tan Chin Aik Foong Lee Chee Cheam Tat Hong Dominic Soosay Leong Wei Kok Lim Choong Kong Wong Chee Seng Tang Yew Pong Cheong Kwai Hin S. Bhaskaran Loe Weng Wah Ernest Yoong Veerappen Krishna Subrayam Subramaniam Chong Yuk Tshung Colin Bondville Yee Shin Lok Khew Khoon Mun Lim Siew Kwan Micheal Lie le Hoei

MECHANICAL ENGINEERING Leong Chiew Kum Loy Hai Kee Ong Eng Kim Avatar Singh Joseph Terrance Gomez Huah Beng Ann

ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING (POWER) Foo Kee Tam Tai Kam Hon Ng Heng Liat Tan Kim Thian Seow Chan Hean Francis Maniam Low Yong Nguan Chee Peng Choy Ajaib Singh Foong Peng Kuan Harbans Singh Wong Yee Choong Thean Siong Khee

ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING (RADIO) Ooi Beng Huat Lee Seng Suan Chee Ah Chye Francis Gabriel Teo Goh Teik Bian Koh Yang Chon Koh Teo Khoon Cho Chor Siong Lee Khuen Suan

SURVEYING Leong Teng Boon Teoh Cheng Piau Chong Yin Wah J. Bajan Singh Joseph Lim Eng Pitt Lee Mun Poh

QUANTITY SURVEYING Ch'ng Kim Leong Lim Teik Hock

BUILDING DESIGN Syed Husin bin Abu Bakar Chuah Teik Poh Wong Wing Yew Teh Teik Seng Chiang Joo Keong Chew Cheang Kar Andrew Tan Kam Pak Cheong Chow Ah Chi Sng You Thiam Fam Bow Cheong Gan Ching Hock

TOWN AND CoUNI'RY PLANNING Chong Sun Yit Tsen Tsat Moi (Miss) 1664 1663 28 NOVEMBER 1962 NAMA PENUNTUf2-1962 CIVIL ENGINEERING Sek Hong Yeong Chan Yoke Fun Ho Fatt Cheah Soong Yeng Wong Kok Sing Wong Yew Chan lnderjeet Singh Eng Jee Wan Chan Pak Chuan Hamn bin Ahmad -Saruji Hector Durairatnam M. Subramaniam Cheong Yik Keong Lam Kok Wai Siah Peng Poh Chen Seong Yun Wong Soon Huat Abd. Halim bin Haji Mohd. Don Leong Sai Hoh Tan Young Khoon Thum Kok Hong Tan Ewe San Lam Sit Chi Yap Huan Ju Kong Fatt Ho Foot Oon Ng Chee Tuck Tan Tiang Chuan Cheah Karn Loong Lim Kaing Siang Tham Soon Yoon MECHANICAL ENGINEERING Wong Hon Kwong Leong Ah Chee Hor Tuck On Leong Ah Kin Mahadevan s/o Thiagarajah V. Thiagarajah Wong Sook Ming Lam Kam Hoong ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING (POWER) Cheong Wan Chin Chang Chin Ming alias Cheong Chan Low Yok Choy Ming Lee Sin Hian Ong Kim Tong Chan Cham Hoy Soo Moon Sow Goh Thean Soo Yap Boon Gan Seow Foo Sang Siow Yit Sing ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING (RADIO) Kong Siew Chuan Siow Keng Cheng Tan Jok Kee Wong Yau Liong Sardul Singh s/o Sadhu Singh Chang Meng Teng Chew Lip Soon Seah Cheng Huat Tan Ewe Cheng Lo Loke Yee Abd. Razak bin Abd. Wahab Albert J. Anthony Chow Kwok Sen Hoo Yuen Chong Tan Wah Thong Chong Fook Choy Chan Fook Cheong Poon Hong Cheng

LAND SURVEYING Khoo Boo Khean Lee Kok Kiat Kuan Toh Cheong Bertie Everet Fernandez Ching Hin Sian Abd. Latiff Midai bin Hj. Zakaria Choo Keng Joon Joseph Liew Hon Boon Tham Kok Kee Teo Jit Min Wong Yuen Pow Wong Meng Koy K. Sathyanathan Nair Tan Choong Leong Mohd. Yusof bin Abdul Rahman John Tan Chin Kon Hoi Khong Yew Weng

QUANTITY SURVEYING Adolf Felix Alfenso Fong Weng Choon

CIVn. ENGINEERING/SURVEYING Koh Weng Sun Chan Yow Yee, Patrick

BUILDING DESIGN Tan Siew Wah Ch'ng Kong Chan Lee Loy alias Lee Yin Yoke (Miss) Hwang Yang Kee Nik Yusoff bin Wan Omar Ng Kim Kang Lee Wee Kee Micheal Song Hoi Kin Joseph Lee Hock Lip Yoke Keng Lee Mong Har (Miss) Yoon Pooi Seng Lee Swan Sim (Miss) 1665 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1666 Colombo Plan Scholarship Students 1962, dan siapa nama mereka itu. 18. Tuan Haji Ahmad bin Abdullah bertanya kapada Menteri Pelajaran Tuan Haji Abdul Hamid Khan bin berapa orang penuntut2 dari Tanah Haji Sakhawat Ali Khan: Bilangan dan Melayu yang sedang belajar di-luar nama2 penuntut2 Malaya yang men­ negeri dan juga yang telah lulus dengan dapat Biasiswa Ranchangan Colombo mendapat Biasiswa Ranchangan sekarang belajar di-luar negeri ada-lah Colombo bagi tabun 1960, 1961 dan saperti di-bawah ini: DAFTAR PENUNTUT2 TANAH MELAYU YANG BELAJAR DI-SEBERANG LAUT MENGIKUT RANCHANGAN COLOMBO, PADA 13HB NOVEMBER, 1962

Pelajaran Tahun berapa T ahun berapa dapat Biasiswa balek AUSTRALIA: ARTS 1. Aloyah binti Abdul B.A. (Hons.) & Dip. Ed. . .. 1961 ...... Dec., 1965 Rahman 2. Nur Hayati binti 1961 ...... Dec., 1965 Mohamed 3. Khadijah binti Abd. 1961 ...... Dec., 1965 Karim 4. Endon binti Johari .. . 1962 ...... Dec., 1966 5. Jayos bin Piwaro .. . 1962 ...... Dec., 1966 6. Salleh bin Mohd. 1962 ...... Dec., 1966 Joned 7. Sharifah Mariam binti 1962 ...... Dec., 1966 Syed Mansor 8. Sharifah Naama binti 1962 ...... Dec., 1966 Syed Mansor

SCIENCE · 1. Yip Sow Har B.Sc. (Hons.) & Dip. Ed .... 1957 Dec., 1961 2. Lim Khaik Leang 1956" Dec., 1961 Kera'~a Ph.D. 1961 Jan., 1963 3. Huang Su Eng 1955 Dec., 1961 4. Low Beng See 1955 Dec., 1961 5. Arnold Samy 1957 Dec., 1962 6. Oii Boon Teck 1957 Dec., 1962 7. Soh Bee Koon 1957 Dec., 1962 8. Oh Yow Lan 1959 Dec., 1963 9. Christie Teo Cheng Im 1959 Dec., 1963 10. Asiah binti Ariffin ... 1960 Dec., 1964 11. Chin Long Fay alias 1960 Dec., 1964 Tan Leng 12. Chong Kheng Chow 1960 Dec., 1964 13. Chow Peng Wai 1960 Dec,, 1964 14. Cheong Choon Kong 1960 Dec., 1964 15. Chye Toh Cehong 1960 Dec., 1964 alias Tshoi To 16. Goh Tong Hong 1960 Dec., 1964 17. Helen Hew Tong Moy 1960 Dec., 1964 18. Khoo Phon Sai 1960 Dec., 1964 19. Lim Kee Taing 1960 Dec., 1964 20. Lim Teong Poh 1960 Dec., 1964 21. Lee Seng Teik, 1960 Dec., 1964 22. Mac Yin Cheng 1960 Dec., 1964 23. Tye Wan Pin 1960 Dec., 1964 24. Ong Bee Jing alias 1960 Dec., 1964 Ong Chew Cheng 25. Leong Koon Chew ... 1960 Dec., 1964 26. Ooi Earn Beng 1960 Dec., 1964 27. Cheam Aik Seong .. . 1961 Dec., 1965 28. Cheng Mee Chooi .. . 1961 Dec., 1965 29. Cheong Hock Aun .. . 1961 Dec., 1965 30. Choo Kok Wai 1961 Dec., 1965 1667 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1668 Pelajaran Tahun berapa T ahun berapa dapat Biasiswa balek AUSTRALIA-(cont.) SCIENCE-(cont.) 31. Chun Chee Keong ... Kerana Ph.D. 1961 Dec., 1965 32. Hui Kok Huang 1961 Dec., 1965 33. Ivy Goh Kim Kee .. . 1961 Dec., 1965 34. V. G. Kumar Das .. . 1961 Dec., 1965 35. Leong Weng Fatt .. . 1961 Dec., 1965 36. Liew Nyok Kheng .. . 1961 Dec., 1965 37. Lim Chin Teik 1961 Dec., 1965 '38. Lim Teck Kah 1961 Dec., 1965 39. Lim Wee Keat alias 1961 Dec., 1965 Lee Wee Keat 40. Lim Yew Meng 1961 Dec., 1965 41. Ling Ai Mee 1961 Dec., 1965 42. Mak Kok Fee 1961 Dec., 1965 43. Mui Siew Lian 1961 Dec., 1965 44. Sheila Sodhy 1961 Dec., 1965 45. Tan Yim Toon 1961 Dec., 1965 46. Thong Kar Lum 1961 Dec., 1965 47. Chia Ah Bah ... 1961 Dec., 1965 48. Tan Teng Nam 1960 1965 49. Leong Wah Hing 1961 1966 50. Loke Kum Mun 1962 1967 51. Abdul Razak bin 1962 1967 Mohd. Shariff 52. Aminah binti Abdul 1962 1967 Rahim 53. Chin Shin Ping 1962 1967

1. Ch'ng Cheng Kim Mengajar orang pekak 1960 Dec., 1962 2. Goon Swee Suen 1960 Dec., 1962 3. Ranee Roshanara 1961 Dec., 1965 4. Khadijah binti E. K. 1961 Dec., 1965 Ganny 5. Au Siew Kin 1961 Dec., 1965

1. Sulaiman bin Haji A. Teachers for the Blind Feb., 1961 Jan., 1965 Wah ab 1. J. D. Cardosa Teaching of English as a Feb., 1962 Nov. 1962 Sec. Language 2. L. A. H. Moreira Feb., 1962 Nov. 1962

1. Ong Kong Ghee Bach. Education Feb., 1962 Dec., 1962 2. D. S. B. Malaypillay Feb., 1962 Nov. 1962

1. Chu Than Seng B.Sc. Engineering (Mee.) Mar. 1962 1965 2. Lee Yuk Yan B.Sc. Engr. (Elect.) ... Mar. 1962 1965 3. Lim Yun Yao B.Sc. Engr. (Mech.) Mar. 1962 1965 4. Mohd. Nawawi bin B.Sc. Engr. (Elect.) Mar. 1962 1965 Mohd.Zain 5. Mohd. Radzuan bin Mar. 1962 1965 Haji Mohd. Salleh 6. Ong Aye Ho ... B.Sc. Engr. (Mech.) Mar. 1962 1965 7. Loke Kum Mun B.Sc. Engr. (Mining) Mar. 1961 1967 Now transferred: B.Sc. 8. Soo Bee Hoon B.Sc. Civil Engr. . .. 1957 1963 9. Ooi Boon Teik B.Sc. Engr. (Elect.) ... 1957 1963

CANADA: 1. Chong Lai Aim . . . B.Sc. (Hons.) & Dip. Edu. 1962 1967 2. Khoo Teng Lek .. . 1962 1967 3. Lee Yeong Chyang .. . 1962 1967 4. Swaminathan s/ o Hari 1962 1967 Hara Iyer 1669 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1670

Pelajaran Tahun berapa T ahun berapa dapat Biasiswa balek

I. Harcharan Singh s / o Industrial Training ...... July, 1962 ... July, 1963 Gill 2. Toh Kheng Teik July, 1962 ... July, 1963 1. Tan Choong Leong ... Tech. Teacher Training ... Sept., 1962 ... Aug., 1963 1. Sarojini Menon Bach. Education ...... 1960 ...... July, 1962

UNITED KINGDOM: 1. Gerald Basil Rozario Teacher Training for the Oct., 1962 Sept., 1963 Deaf 2. Lee Soo Foong Oct., 1962 Sept., 1963

NEW ZEALAND: 1. Maznah binti Ismail B.A. (Hons.) & Dip. Edu. ... 1961 Dec., 1965 2. Mohd. Yunus bin M. ,, ,, . . . 1961 Dec., 1965 Noor 3. Junid bin Abu Sahau ,, ,, ... 1961 Dec., 1965 4. Yusof bin Ngah ... ,, ,, . . . 1962 1966 5. Zainab binti Moham- ,, ,, . . . 1962 1966 med 6. Zabidah binti Hassan ,, ,, . . . 1962 1966 1. Cecilia Pereira . .. Teacher Training for the 1961 1965 Deaf 2. Fatimah binti Kadir 1961 1965 Ghani 3. Saadiah binti Ahmad 1962 1963 1. Boey Chee Kiew B.Sc. (Hons.) & Dip. Edu. 1956 Dec., 1961 2. Cheong Lean Eng 1957 Dec., 1961 3. Hoo Cheong Seng M. S~. (Maths) ... 1957 Dec., 1961 Now doing Ph.D. in U.S.A. 1961 1964 4. Lim Lum Leng .. . B.Sc. (Hons.) & Dip. Edu. 1956 Dec., 1961 5. M. Ratnasabapathy .. . M.Sc. 1958 Dec., 1963 6. Wahidullah Khan .. . 1958 Dec., 1963 7. Zahariah binti Yaacob Olp. D.Sc.... 1957 Dec., 1962 8. N. K. Nair ... B.Sc. (Hons.) & Dip. Edu. 1957 Dec., 1962 9. Thomas T. Ooman ... M.Sc. . 1958 Dec., 1962 10. Ang Thoon Seng M.Sc. (Maths) 1959 1963 11. Ng See Ngean 1959 1963 12. Oo Khiak Cheang ... M'.Sc. 1959 1963 13. Khoo Kean Huat 1959 1963 14. Chung Chee Min ... 1960 1964 15. J o.sephine Chin Sin 1960 1964 Sim 16. Parkash Kaur 1960 1964 17. A. L. Chandrasegaram 1961 1965 18. Hoh Bean San 1961 1965 19. Lee Hok Leng 1961 1965 20. Yin Hong Kee 1961 1965 21. Siew Yow Cheong 1956 1960 N~~ doing Ph.D. in U.K. 1960 July, 1963 1. Muslimah binti Nairn Teachers of the Blind Jan., 1962 1965 2. Noraini binti Md. Jan., 1962 1965 Yusuf MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL Melayu yang telah menyem­ AFFAIRS purnakan rukun haji-nya pada tahun 1961; Pilgrimage to Mecca (b) ada-kah Kerajaan hendak me­ 19. Tuan Syed Esa bin Alwee bertanya ngambil langkah membuat ke­ kapada Menteri Hal Ehwal Luar tentuan dengan Kompeni Kapal Negeri: Terbang supaya menyenangkan (a) berapa orang Islam dalam tiap2 perjalanan bakal2 haji ka-Mekah Negeri dalam Persekutuan Tanah pada tiap2 tahun. 1671 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1672 Perdana Menteri: Perdana Menteri: (a) Bilangan Permit2 untok Kedah 1.272 dudok tetap yang telah 50 di-keluarkan ...... 1961 .. . 2,576 Perlis January-October ... 1962 ... 2,292 Perak 829 Bilangan Permit2 dan Visa Selangor 635 untok dudok sementara Trengganu 265 yang telah di-keluarkan 1961 ... 6,697 Pahang 210 January-October . .. 1962 ... 6,138 Kelantan 973 Penang 308 Islamic Commonwealth Negeri Sembilan 233 22. Enche' Zulkiftee bin Muhammad Malacca 259 bertanya kapada Perdana Menteri apa­ Joh or 767 kah chara, bentok dan tujuan satu Singapura 214 persatu Commonwealth Islam yang di­ Borneo 50 chadangkan oleh Perdana Menteri Brunei 79 baharu2 ini. Sarawak 294 Perdana Menteri: Chadangan hendak Cambodia 39 menubohkan sa-buah negara Common­ Thailand 21 wealth Islam telah di-keluarkan oleh saya dalam lawatan saya baharu2 ini 6,498 ka-Pakistan. Bagaimana bentok-nya dan apa tujuan-nya tidak dapat di-tentukan (b) Tidak. bagian2 pada masa ini sa-hingga ada chukup bilangan negeri2 Islam dan Malayan Embassy Building in Japan orang2 Islam telah memutuskan-nya. 20. Tuan Syed Esa bin Alwee bertanya Tujuan pangkal-nya ia-lah hendak kapada Menteri Hal Ehwal Luar mendapat persefahaman rapat antara Negeri bila-kah Pejabat Duta Besar negeri2 Islam dan umat2 Islam sa-elok2- Malaya di-negeri Jepun itu akan di­ nya di-seluroh dunia. Ada-nya Com­ bangunkan pada hal tanah tapak monwealth Islam saperti yang di­ bangunan itu sudah di-beli. chadangkan ini akan menyenangkan 2 Perdana Menteri: Persiapan sedang orang Islam mengadakan perjumpaan di-jalankan bagi membuat pelan2 sama sendiri dari satu masa ka-satu masa bagi merundingkan dan barang­ Bangunan Tempat Tinggal Rasmi Duta 2 2 Persekutuan di-Tokyo. Tidak dapat di­ kali memutuskan masaalah yang sama 2 2 tentukan tarikh yang betul2-nya kerja mengenai negeri dan orang Islam mendirikan-nya itu akan di-mulakan, dalam lapangan ugama. kerana pelan2 itu hendak di-pereksa dahulu sama ada sesuai atau tidak Kashmir sesuai dan boleh di-terima atau tidak 23. Enche' Zulkiftee bin Muhammad boleh di-terima. Tetapi di-harapkan bertanya kapada Perdana Menteri apa kerja2 mendirikan-nya itu akan di­ sikap Persekutuan Tanah Melayu mulakan entah2 dalam tahun hadapan tentang pertikaian antara Pakistan ini. dengan India dalam masaalah Kashmir? Dan sudah-kah di-ma'alumkan oleh Perdana Menteri akan sikap itu kapada Immigrants into the Federation of Malaya Kerajaan Pakistan dan India pada masa 2 21. Tuan Haji Ahmad bin Abdullah beliau melawat kedua negeri itu. bertanya kapada Menteri Hal Ehwal Perdana Menteri: Kerajaan Perseku­ Luar Negeri berapa ramai-nya orang2 tuan mensifatkan pertelingkahan antara asing yang telah masok ka-Persekutuan Pakistan dengan India berkenaan Tanah Melayu dalam tahun 1961 dan dengan Kashmir itu sa-bagai perteling­ 1962 dan berapa banyak daripada kahan yang sa-baik2-nya boleh di­ mereka itu yang telah mendapat (a) ke­ selesaikan oleh kedua buah negeri itu benaran dudok sa-lama2-nya dalam dengan jalan berunding sa-chara ber­ Tanah Melayu dan (b) kebenaran baik2. Kedua2 negeri itu, Pakistan dan dudok buat sementara. India, .ia-lah ahli Commonwealth dan 1673 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1674 berbaik2 dengan Persekutuan Tanah (c) Sa-bagaimana yang di-terangkan Melayu. Saya tidak ada menyebutkan dalam bahagian (a) di-atas, sa-panjang apa2 jua-sa-chara rasmi-berkenaan tahun 1962 ini, Kerajaan tidak ada dengan pertelingkahan ini, baik kapada mengambil apa2 pinjaman wang dari Kerajaan Pakistan atau kapada Kera­ negeri luar. Kenyataan penoh ber­ jaan India dalam lawatan saya baharu2 kenaan dengan pinjaman2 wang dari ini ka-India dan Pakistan. luar negeri dalam tahun2 yang dahulu daripada tahun 1962 boleh di-dapati MINISTRY OF FINANCE dalam Anggaran Hasil dan Per­ belanjaan Kerajaan Persekutuan bagi Local and Foreign Loans tahun 1962. 24. Tuan Haji Ahmad bin Abdullah bertanya kapada Menteri Kewangan : MINISTRY OF HEALTH (a) berapa banyak-nya pinjaman yang telah di-ambil oleh Kerajaan Per­ Recruitment of Doctors from Overseas sekutuan dari luar negeri dan 25. Tuan Syed Esa bin Alwee bertanya dari dalam negeri bagi tahun kapada Menteri Kesihatan ada-kah 1960, 1961 dan 1962; Kerajaan berchadang hendak mengam­ (b) berapa banyak-nya bunga yang bil doktor2 dari negeri Jepun, Pilipina di-bayar bagi tiap2 tahun yang (Philippines) dan Republik Arab tersebut di-atas; dan Bersatu dengan sebab sangat ke­ (c) negeri2 mana yang memberi kurangan doktor dalam negeri ini. hutang itu dan berapa banyak-nya bunga yang di-bayar kapada-nya. Menteri Kesihatan (Enche' Abdul Rahman bin Haji Talib): Kementerian Menteri Kewangan (Enche' Tan Siew saya sentiasa mengkaji soal hendak Sin): (a) Butir2 berkenaan dengan mengambil doktor2 dari luar negeri segala hutang2 Kerajaan (dari dalam bagi mengatasi kekurangan doktor negeri atau luar negeri) hingga akhir dalam perkhidmatan Kerajaan. Sa­ tahun 1961, boleh di-dapati kalau tidak bagai suatu langkah yang akan di-jalan­ dalam Anggaran Tahunan Hasil dan kan dengan serta-merta, 60 orang Perbelanjaan Kerajaan Persekutuan, doktor akan di-ambil dari Pilipina sa­ dalam Perjanjian2 Pinjaman Wang yang chara "dengan perjanjian" (on contract). telah di-bentangkan dalam Majlis ini. 2 Dalam tahun 1962 tidak ada pinjaman Klang General Hospital baharu telah di-buat. 26. Enche' V. David asks the Minister (b) Jumlah faedah yang di-bayar ka­ 2 of Health to state the number pada tiap satu pinjaman wang, sama of out-patients monthly from 1st July, ada pinjaman dari dalam negeri atau 1962 to 31st October, 1962 at the luar negeri, bagi tiap2 tahun ada juga Klang General Hospital. di-tunjokkan dalam Anggaran Tahunan Hasil dan Perbelanjaan Kerajaan Per­ Enche' Abdul Rahman bin Haji sekutuan. Sa-lain daripada pinjaman Talib: The hospital at Klang is a wang dari dalam negeri sa-bagaimana District Hospital, not a General Hos­ yang boleh di-dapati dalam Anggaran pital. The number of out-patients for Tahunan Hasil dan Perbelanjaan Ke­ the months of July to October, 1962, rajaan Persekutuan bagi tahun 1962 was as under: itu, ada juga lain2 piiljaman wang dari July, 1962 11,171 dalam negeri yang telah di-ambil dalam August, 1962 10,858 tahun 1962 sa-hingga 7hb November, ia-itu saperti yang berikut ini: September 1962 11,034 Bayaran October, 1962 ... 11,154 Tarikh tempoh Banyak-nya Faedah faedah bayar balek Tahunan 27. Enche' V. David asks the Minister 1967 ... $12.000,000 s % $ 600,000 1978/80 ... 58,000,000 St% 3,190,000 of Health to state the number of 1964 ... 13,52S,600 4t% doctors attending to out-patients from 1967 ... 3,432,700 s % Maseh 1st July, 1962, to date at the Klang 1978/80 ... 70,753,600 St% Terbuka General Hospital. 1675 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1676 Enche' Abdul Rahman bin Haji Average Talib: It is presumed that the question Place Collection refers to the "general" out-patients per month Sabak Bernam ...... $ 17,414.00 department. Except on Sundays and Kuala Kurau ...... 7,579.35 public holidays, at least, one full-time Kuala Lumpur ...... 140,759.42 and one part-time medical officers Kuala Lumpur-Batu Road 99,541.16 attend to patients daily in the general Klang ...... 58,601.71 Kajang ...... 17,013.81 out-patients department of the District Rawang ...... 31,514.29 Hospital, Klang, from 1st July, 1962 Banting ...... 39,465.71 to-date. On Sundays and public holi­ Kuala Kubu Bharu ...... 21,375.30 days there is a full-time medical officer Batang Berjuntai ...... 24,051.77 Tanjong Karang ...... 16,712.94 on duty who attends to all medical and Jinjang ...... 15,741.78 surgical out-patients and admissions. Salak South ...... 24,306.00 A surgeon is available at all times to Petaling Jaya ...... 27,824.40 attend to surgical emergencies. Serdang Bharu ...... 6,628.87 Rasa ...... 14,311.75 Seremban ...... 182,994.79 28. Enche' V. David asks the Minister Kuala Pilah ...... 43,036.77 of Health the number of beds as Malacca ...... 42,719.08 at 1st January, 1960, and the num­ Sungei Pelek ...... 16,522.00 Segamat ...... 9,339.00 ber of beds as at 31st October, 1962, Johore Bahru ...... 29,194.73 in the Klang General Hospital. Muar ...... 7,878.50 Batu Pahat ...... 6,490.00 Enche' Abdul Rahman bin Haji Penang ...... 90,222.27 Talib: The number of beds as at 1st Ayer ltam ...... 16,397.72 January, 1960, and 31st October, 1962, Butterworth ...... 32,041.62 Bukit Mertajam ...... 40,491.61 in the District Hospital, Klang, were Kepala Batas ...... 6,498.70 272 and 282 respectively. Sungei Patani ...... 48,492.17 Kulim ...... 18,930.34 Padang Serai ...... 9,543.47 MINISTRY OF THE INTERIOR Baling ...... 8,260.47 Guar Chempadak ...... 2,072.00 3-Digit-Betting Agencies and Total Collections Kodiang ...... 1,544.00 29. Enche' Chin See Yin asks the There are no agents appointed by Minister of the Interior to state the the Turf Clubs, operations being names of all agents appointed by the carried on by branches of the Turf Turf Clubs for the 3-digit-betting and Clubs, which employ their own hands. against each name to state : 30. Enche' Chin See Yin asks the (a) the place in which the 3-digit­ Minister of the Interior to state the betting is being carried on; total collections on the 3-digit-betting (b) the average collections per made by each Turf Club in the Federa­ month. tion of Malaya up to the end of The Minister of the Interior (Dato' October, 1962, and against the name of Dr Ismail bin Dato' Haji Abdul Rah­ each club to state the following : man): Details of places where 3 digits (a) taxes paid into the Federal branches have been opened: Treasury; Average (b) prizes paid for winning tickets; Place Collection per month (c) commissions paid to appointed lpoh ... $400,144.82 agents. Kampar 100,007.95 Tai ping 93,686.63 Dato' Dr Ismail: Figures in respect of Teluk Anson ... 73,375.32 period 1st April, 1961 to 31st October, Kuala Kangsar 33,228.61 1962: Sitiawan 17,499.43 Name of Total Tapah 27,738.73 Clubs Collections Taxes Paid Prizes Paid Grik ... 11.635.33 Penang .. $ 4,683,849.00 $ 468,384.90 $ 2,841,192.50 Bagan Serai ... 17,291.70 Perak . . 16,800,082.00 1,680,008.20 10,690,932.50 Tanjong Malim 8,523.04 Selangor . . 11,641,985,50 1,164,198.55 7,361,580.00 Sungei Siput ... 7,711.80 Alor Star 78~97.13 There being no agents, no commis­ Kangar 26,887.69 sions are paid. 1677 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1678 Acquisition of Federal Citizenship by Aliens jaga tanam-tanaman, dan 33,959 puchok 31. Tuan Haji Ahmad bin Abdullah untok menjaga tanam-tanaman, ber­ bertanya kapada Menteri Dalam buru dan sa-bagai-nya. Kebanyakan Negeri berapa bilangan orang2 asing daripada senjata2 api ini ada-lah dalam yang telah menjadi Warga Negara pegangan pendudok2 di-kawasan luar Persekutuan dalam tahun 1960, 1961 bandar. dan 1962. Dato' Dr Ismail: MINISTRY OF RURAL 1960 . .. 79,791 orang DEVELOPMENT 1961 ... 57,187 Rural Development Projects 1962 ... 112,177 ,, (January sampai October). 33. Tuan Haji Ahmad bin Abdullah bertanya kapada Menteri Pembangunan Private Firearms in Police Custody Luar Bandar : • (a) berapa ranchangan luar bandar 32. Tuan Syed ~sa bm Alwee bertanya yang telah di-jalankan dan siap kapad~ Menten ~eselam~tan Dalam baai tahun 1960 1961 dan 1962; Negen ada-kah sen1ata2 ap1 kepunyaan ° '. sendiri yang telah di-ambil oleh pehak (b) berapa perbelan1aan-nya; dan polis itu akan di-kembalikan kapada (c) berapa ranchangan yang sedang tuan punya masing2 supaya memboleh- di-buat bagi tiap2 Negeri di- kan mereka menjaga tanaman2 dari- Persekutuan Tanah Melayu. 2 pada serangan binatang buas. T"1m b a 1an p er dana M en t en· (T un Menteri Keselamatan Dalam Negeri Haji Abdul Razak): (a) Hendak me­ (Dato' Dr Ismail bin Dato' Haji Abdul nerangkan semua hal satu-persatu Rahman): Kebanyakan daripada sen- · berkenaan dengan tiap2 satu Ran­ jata2 api yang telah di-ambit oleh changan Pembangunan Luar Bandar pehak polis daripada tuan2 empunya- yang di-lanchar dan di-siapkan dalam nya ada-lah dengan sebab2 menjaga tahun 1960, 1961, 1962 ta' dapat tiada keselamatan pada masa Dharurat akan memakan masa dan berkehendak­ dahulu, atau dengan sebab tuan2 kan di-siasat dalam2 kerana ran­ empunya-nya sudah tidak layak me- changan2 demikian itu banyak sangat miliki-nya. Apabila di-ishtiharkan dan bermacham2 jenis-nya dan terpaksa tamat Dharurat pada 31hb July, 1960 bertanya fikiran hampir2 semua sa-kali dahulu, semua tuan2 punya senjata2 api Kementerian dan Jabatan2, baik Jaba­ ini telah di-benarkan meminta balek tan Negeri atau Jabatan Persekutuan senjata2 api-nya dengan mengambil di-seluroh Persekutuan. 2 2 lesen baharu, ~an ora~g yang layak Dan juga, bidang Ranchangan Pem­ dan mempunyai . se~ab .yang .mena- bangunan Luar Bandar ini luas sangat s~bah untok me~deki sen1ata ap1 telah hingga termasok ranchangan2 dalam d~-luluskan permmtaan-nya. Dalall! me: Senarai Kuasa Kerajaan Persekutuan, mmbangka.n ada~k~h. P!lt~t di-ben Senarai Kuasa Kerajaan Negeri dan ~alek sen1ata ~P1 101 di-tlmbangkan Senarai Kuasa Bersama dalam Jadual Juga untok men1aga tanam-tanaman. Kesembilan dalam Perlembagaan Per- Kerajaan sedang menimbangkan juga sekutuan dan haF yang betul-nya hendak mengeluarkan senapang2 yang saperti berapa bilangan-nya, apa jenis­ sedang dalam simpanan polis kapada nya dan sa-bagai-nya hanya boleh balai2 polis yang berhampiran dengan di-dapati sa-telah bertanya fikiran atas tempat2 Ranchangan Tanah Baharu serba-serbi perkara dengan tiap2 Kera­ atau kapada Pengurus2 Ranchangan jaan Negeri. Tanah Baharu. dengan tujuan hendak (b) Banyak-nya perbelanjaan yang mengadakan simpanai;i senapang sa- telah di-belanjakan ada di-sebutkan kumpul yang boleh d1-gunakan untok dengan terang dalam Anggaran Per­ men1aga tanam-tanaman. belanjaan Pembangunan Kerajaan Per- Pada masa ini ada 16,727 puchok sekutuan dan Kerajaan Negeri bagi senjata2 api yang berlesen untok men- tahun2 yang di-sebutkan itu. 1679 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1680 (c) Pada masa sudah akhir tahun PELATEH2 TEKNIK YANG DI-AMBIL saperti sekarang, sadikit sahaja di­ DALAM TAHUN 1962 mulakan ranchangan2 baharu~ keba­ nyakan ranchangan2 baharu ada-lah 1. S. Thilagalingam di-jalan pada awal tahun sa-lepas di­ 2. Lim Chan Guan 2 3. Chong Swee Kong luluskan Anggaran Perbelanjaan Pem­ 4. Looi Eng Lam bangunan. 5. Ng Aik Peng 6. Jaafar bin Ismail Social Welfare Services Lotteries Board 7. Abbas bin Osman Grant to Political Parties 8. Chan Kok Wah 9. Zainal Abidin bin Md. Jani 34. Enche' V. David asks the Minister 10. Ng Nen Leong of Rural Development to state whether 11. N. Thirunavukarasu it is a fact that the Social and Welfare 12. Tan Aik Sun Services Lotteries Board grants money 13. Goh Tiam Hey only to social organisations whose 14. Sulaiman bin Ishak officials belong to a particular party, 15. Tan Seng Cheong and if so, which political party. 16. Ooi Tee Ming.

Ton Haji Abdul Razak: Tiada. Transport Companies owned by Malays and Non-Malays MINISTRY OF TRANSPORT 36. Tuan Haji Ahmad bin Abdullah bertanya kapada Menteri Pengangkutan Recruitment of Trainees under the Special berapa bilangan sharikat2 pengang­ Technical Apprenticeship kutan bus, lorry dan taxi yang di­ 35. Tuan Haji Ahmad bin Abdullah punyai oleh bangsa Melayu dan bukan bertanya kapada Menteri Pengangkutan Melayu dalam tahun 1960, 1961 dan berapa bilangan orang2 baharu yang di­ 1962. ambil oleh Jabatan Keretapi dalam Dato' Haji Sardon bin Haji Jubir: tahun 1961 dan 1962 untok berlateh Bilangan Sharikat2 Kenderaan (bas2, dalam bahagian Pelateh Teknik Khas lori2 dan teksi2) yang di-punyai' oleh (Special Technical Apprenticeship) dan orang2 Melayu dan orang2 yang bukan siapa nama2 mereka itu. Melayu dalam tahun 1960, 1961 dan 1962 ada-lah saperti berikut: Menteri Pengangkutan (Dato' Haji Sardon bin Haji Jubir): Nama2 Pelateh2 100% Orang2 Melayu Teknik yang di-ambil oleh Pentadbiran 1960 1961 1962 Keretapi Tanah Melayu dalam tahun Bas2 18 25 28 1961 1962 Lori2* 1 3 s clan ada-lah saperti berikut: Teksi2 3 5 7 PELATEH2 TEKNIK YANG DI-AMBIL Orang2 Bukan Melayu DALAM TAHUN 1961 1960 1961 1962 Bas2 73 66 66 1.. Mohd. Kamar bin Mohamed Lori2* 145 145 145 2. A. Ramachandran Teksi2 73 73 73 3. How Say Koon • Menunjokkan Sharikat' yana di-jalankan baai sewa 4. Lee Kong dan upah sahaja. 5. Chong Chee Eng Permiis for Hire-cars and Taxis 6. Majid bin Adam 7. Yeong Hoong On 37. Tuan Haji Hassan bin Haji Ahmad 8. Hamzah bin Ismail bertanya kapada Menteri Pengang­ kutan berapa banyak-nya mereka2 yang 9. Tan Kim Leong memileki permit teksi lebeh daripada 10. Law Kong Huat satu buah baik yang berupa Hire Car 11. Gan Eng Kim atau Taxi Cabs, dan apa-kah dasar 12. Ng Kee Meng Kerajaan dalam meluluskan pemberian 13. Khor Soon Seng permit itu lebeh dari satu kapada satu 14. Meor Izazi bin Meor Yahaya. orang dan tidak-kah Kerajaan berfikir 1681 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1682 bahawa mustahak di-kaji sa-mula Menteri Kerja Raya, Pos dan Tali- supaya dapat permit itu di-ratakan kom (Dato' V. T. Sambanthan): kapada mereka2 yang benar2 berkaitan Bilangan Tempat2 Talipon tambahan dengan pekerjaan tersebut. yang di-dirikan di-kawasan Bandar dan kawasan Luar Bandar dalam tiap2 Dato' Baji Sardon bin Baji Jobir: 2 negeri ada-lah saperti di-bawah ini: (a) Bilangan orang yang ada lesen 1962 hingga lebeh daripada sa-buah hire car atau 1960 1961 30hb Sept. '62 Negeri1 Bandar Luar Bandar Luar Bandar Luar taxi ia-lah saperti berikut: Bandar Bandar Bandar Melayu ...... 119 Perlis - 3 - 3 - 3 Lain2 bangsa ...... 229 Kedah 3 14 2 16 s 32 2 Penang 12 14 8 5 18 (b) Tiap permohonan hendakkan Perak 2 45 6 34 11 18 sa-buah lesen taxi atau hire car me­ Selansor 6 13 3 23 IS 13 menohkan lesen kosong di-timbangkan Negeri Sembilan 0 19 3 13 I 15 oleh Lembaga Pelesen Tempatan Malacca 0 10 5 8 8 . 9 mengikut patut tidak-nya di-luluskan Joh or 7 28 9 24 6 23 permohonan2 itu. Memilelt satu2 per­ Pahang l 5 5 28 I 11 mohonan memenohkan lesen kosong Kelantan 0 0 1 0 0 0 itu, Lembaga Pelesen mesti-lah me­ Trengganu .. 0 0 I 9 7 13 ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ - muas hati sendiri bahawa pemohon itu Jumlah .. 31 151 43 163 72 138 ada sharat2 yang di-kehendaki saperti tempat tinggal, ada lesen pemandu Belanja hetong panjang bagi meng­ kereta atau lesen vocational, khid­ 2 matan2-nya yang lepas sa-bagai anggota adakan tiap satu daripada-nya ada-lah Pasokan Bersenjata atau sa-bagai-nya, lebeh kurang $3,000 dan jumlah per­ wang untok membeli sa-buah kereta belanjaan semua sa-kali lebeh kurang dan juga pemohon itu mesti-lah sa­ $1.75 juta. orang yang di-dapati layak sa-kali 2 2 Kebanyakan daripada Tempat Tali­ daripada pemohon yang lain. pon di-kawasan Luar Bandar telah di­ Jika sa-saorang pemohon itu memang adakan daripada belanja dalam sudah ada lesen taxi atau hire car dan Bahagian Kepala 53, Tempat2 Talipon telah menunjokkan kelakuan yang me­ di-kawasan Luar Bandar, dan jumlah muaskan hati sa-bagai sa-orang tuan perbelanjaan-nya mengikut tahun2 ada­ taxi atau hire car dan sa-kira-nya dia­ lah saperti di-bawah ini: lah sahaja yang meminta, maka tidak 1960 ... $210,463 ada jalan lain lagi bagi Lembaga Pelesen melainkan meluluskan permin­ 1961 .. . 288,575 taan-nya itu. Undang2 tidak menyekat 1962 . . . 325,810 (hingga 30hb Sep­ sa-saorang itu daripada mempunyai tember, 1962) dua atau lebeh daripada dua lesen sama ada lesen2 itu bagi satu jenis Tempat2 Talipon di-kawasan Bandar kenderaan atau bagi lain2 jenis dan bagi Tempat2 Talipon di-kawasan kenderaan. Luar Bandar telah di-adakan belanja­ nya dalam Bahagian Kepala 67, Exten­ MINISTRY OF WORKS, POSTS sion of Subscriber Network. AND TELECOMMUNICATIONS Telephone Booths Bridges over Muar and Batu Pahat Rivers 38. Toan Baji Ahmad bin Abdullah 39. Tuan Syed Esa bin Alwee bertanya bertanya kapada Menteri Kerja Raya, kapada Menteri Kerja Raya, Pos dan Pos dan Talikom berapa bilangan Talikom bila-kah pekerjaan membuat talipon booth yang telah di-buat di­ jambatan menyeberangi Sungai Batu dalam kawasan bandar dan kawasan Pahat dan Muar itu akan di-mulakan. luar bandar bagi tiap2 Negeri di­ Berapa chadangan belanja pada tiap2 Persekutuan Tanah Melayu bagi tahun sa-buah jambatan itu dan bila anggaran 1960, 1961 dan 1962 dan berapa kedua2 jambatan itu akan siap boleh perbelanjaan-nya. di-gunakan oleh orang ramai. 1683 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1684 Dato' V. T. Sambanthan: Chadangan pertolongan kapada kaki tangan Kera­ hendak membuat Jambatan Muar dan jaan membuatkan rumah dengan J ambatan Batu Pahat itu telah di­ bayaran beransor pada tiap2 bulan. masokkan dalam Ranchangan Lima Tahun dan sekarang sedang di-buat Perdana Menteri: Memang sudah pelan-nya. Kerja membuat jambatan2 ada satu sharat dalam Peratoran2 'Am itu boleh di-mulakan sa-baik2 ada wang Kewangan (Financial General Orders) belanja-nya. Kedua2 jambatan itu agak2 yang membolehkan pegawai2 Kerajaan dua tahun lama-nya hendak menyudah­ meminjam wang kerana hendak men­ kan termasok kerja membuat jalan di­ dirikan rumah. seberang menyeberang sungai. Parliament House, National Mosque and Jambatan Muar itu di-anggarkan Museum $4,000,000 belanja-nya termasok belanja membuat jalan raya di-seberang me­ 42. Tuan Syed Esa bin Alwee bertanya nyeberang sungai. J ambatan Batu Pahat kapada Perdana Menteri : di-anggarkan $3,200,000 termasok (a) bila bangunan Parlimen baharu belanja membuat jalan raya di-seberang itu akan siap dan berapa menyeberang sungai. belanja-nya, Ada-kah hendak di-mulakan dalam (b) bila bangunan Masjid Negara tahun 1963 akan di-putuskan tidak itu akan siap dan berapa lama lagi. belanja-nya, (c) bila bangunan Muzium Negara itu akan siap dan berapa PRIME MINISTER'S belanja-nya. DEPARTMENT Perdana Menteri: Tarikh siap dan Recognition of Foreign Degrees in Language harga-nya ada-lah saperti di-bawah ini: and Literature (a) Bulan July, 1963; $16,520,000. 40. Tuan Haji Hasan Adli bin Haji (b) Tarikh siap-nya bergantong ka­ Arshad bertanya kapada Perdana pada bila kontrek di-terima bagi Menteri apa nama Universiti2 luar kerja2 yang besar-nya. Kerja ini negeri, termasok Indonesia, yang di­ di-jangka akan siap 25 bulan akui oleh Kerajaan Persekutuan Tanah 2 dari tarikh di-terima kontrek. Melayu ijazah -nya dalam jurusan 2 sastera dan bahasa pada masa ·ihi. Tender sedang di-timbangkan sekarang dan harga-nya akan Perdana Menteri: Tidak dapat di­ mengikut tender yang sa-habis sebutkan semua sa-kali universiti2 yang rendah sa-kali tetapi harga-nya di-akui oleh Kerajaan Persekutuan tidak-lah boleh di-beritahu pada degree2-nya dalam jurusan Bahasa dan masa ini. 2 Sastra. Degree daripada universiti2 (c) Bulan February, 1963; $1,650,000. yang lain sama ada dalam jurusan Bahasa dan Sastra atau dalam perkara2 yang lain ada-lah di-timbang mengikut India and China Border Conftict patut tidak-nya di-akui dan pada 43. Tuan Haji Hasan Adli bin Haji menimbangkan darjah-nya kita ban­ Arshad bertanya kapada Perdana Men­ dingkan dengan darjah degree2 di­ teri: universiti kita sendiri. Kebanyakan 2 (a) Sudah-kah Kerajaan menerima degree daripada universiti2 di-United permintaan daripada Kerajaan Kingdom dan Australia telah di-akui India untok membantu-nya tetapi degree2 di-universiti Indonesia dengan angkatan bersenjata bagi tidak di-akui". menentang Kominis China dalam pertikaian sempadan India-China Building Loans to Government Employees itu. 41. Tuan Syed Esa bin Alwee bertanya (b) Jika sudah, ada-kah Kerajaan kapada Perdana Menteri ada-kah sudah menimbangkan untok me­ Kerajaan berchadang hendak memberi menohi permintaan itu, dan 1685 28 NOVEMBER 1962 1686 berapa ramai-kah bilangan Pakistan Flood Relief Fund tentera2 Persekutuan yang akan di-hantar kerana bantuan itu. 44. Enche' V. David asks the Prime Minister whether he had sought the (c) Ada-kah Kerajaan akan menim­ approval of the Parliament before bangkan, ia-itu akan di-hantar making the donation of $28,000 to the tentera2 Persekutuan Tanah Mela­ Pakistan flood relief fund. yu yang terdiri daripada kaum China sahaja untok membantu Prime Minister: The amount donated India menentang Kominis China by the Prime Minister to the East itu. Pakistan Relief Fund was $30,000 and Perdana Menteri: not $28,000. This donation was paid (a) Tidak ada. out of provision under Head 66 Sub­ (b)}Soalan2 ini tidak-lah ber­ head 1. (c) bangkit.