00:00:00 Music Transition “Oh No, Ross and Carrie! Theme Song” by Brian Keith Dalton. A jaunty, upbeat instrumental. 00:00:09 Ross Host Hello, and welcome to Oh No, Ross and Carrie, the show where we don’t just report on fringe science, virtual reality, claims of the paranormal, but take part ourselves. 00:00:18 Carrie Host Yep. When they make the claims, we show up so you don’t have to. I’m Carrie Poppy. 00:00:21 Ross Host And I’m Ross Blocher, and we’re going back to the Conscious Life Expo. 00:00:26 Carrie Host Yay! 00:00:27 Ross Host We never left. We were there the whole time. 00:00:28 Carrie Host It was quite a weekend. 00:00:29 Ross Host Waiting for you to come back so we could lead you around some more of the show floor at the LAX Hilton. 00:00:34 Carrie Host Uh, before we get started, Ross, a little somber note. [Ross affirms.] There was a recent death in the flat Earth community. 00:00:42 Ross Host Mike Hughes, who went by the moniker “Mad Mike” Hughes, he had built a number of rockets to propel himself ever higher and he wanted to demonstrate the flatness of the Earth. He thought that was the shape of things. He’d had a few attempts. One had gone, I think, well enough. One he’d been pretty seriously hurt with a back injury. You had talked to him by email a couple of times. 00:01:06 Carrie Host Yeah, we really wanted to go and see one of the rocket launches and he was very nice to me. We didn’t actually get to meet him, but when I heard that he was gone I did have that feeling of someone I know being missing, you know? He was very sweet. 00:01:17 Ross Host Yeah, as I recall he would give you kind of partial information, you’d say, “Cool, well what time is it gonna be?” 00:01:23 Carrie Host That’s right. 00:01:24 Ross Host And he’d say like, “See you Thursday.” [Carrie laughs.] “Wait, where are we going?” 00:01:29 Carrie Host Some definite mad scientist energy. 00:01:31 Ross Host It’s interesting. We posted about this and kind of saluted his enterprising spirit, and it sparked quite a debate amongst even our listeners. And I know that—well with the death of anybody, you know, it’s a sad time, and it’s extra complicated when it’s somebody who’s kind of promoting something that, um, is either not right, or in some cases harmful. There’s a lot of emotions there, that come along with an event like that. 00:01:57 Carrie Host And, when someone does believe something a little askew, the thing I really want from them is to be willing to test and really look at it, right? [Ross affirms.] And I really can’t fault Mike on that axis. 00:02:09 Ross Host Yeah, he was willing to not just build a rocket, but get inside of it. Hopefully there’s no copy-cats out there. Hopefully the lesson has been made that that can very much be a fatal activity. Anyways, we liked his moxy. You know we wish all of his supporters well, and hope nobody else tries that. 00:02:28 Carrie Host Yeah. Here’s to Mike. 00:02:30 Ross Host To Mike. The Conscious Life Expo! 00:02:33 Carrie Host So, if you’re joining us for the first time, you’re gonna wanna go back an episode. 00:02:36 Ross Host Well, yeah, cause we talk about all these amazing vendors we were running into, but there’s more— 00:02:40 Carrie Host There’s more! 00:02:42 Ross Host We mentioned this before, we only scratched the surface of this conference, and we thought that, “Oh, this would be a fun kind of exploration to do, to see what’s there.” There are so many things that we did not see and would love to tell you about. One in particular that stood out to me was a talk by David Avocado Wolfe. 00:03:01 Carrie Host Ah, yes. We’ve heard about him for a long time. 00:03:03 Ross Host I don’t think I’ve ever actually heard him speak directly. 00:03:06 Carrie Host Me neither. 00:03:07 Ross Host But we’ve been at conferences with him there. 00:03:09 Carrie Host And I only ever remember that name. 00:03:11 Ross Host It’s such a memorable name. But, yeah, he deals in a lot of, I think, alternative medical advice that he gives people. Well, he had this keynote workshop on Saturday. He only went by the name David Wolfe there, maybe he’s losing the Avocado? I don’t know. 00:03:27 Carrie Host Hm, interesting. Maybe it got too expensive. 00:03:29 Ross Host He’s got a goatee and a lot of curly hair that’s split right down the middle. [Carrie affirms.] It’s a look! Alright, so, The title of his keynote workshop was Detoxification: More Important Than Nutrition. 00:03:44 Carrie Host Oh, wow. I guess there’s situations where that’s true. 00:03:48 Ross Host Oh, sure. 00:03:50 Carrie Host An overdose, for example. 00:03:51 Ross Host Some very rare situations that probably— 00:03:54 Carrie Host If someone’s overdosing, don’t give them a banana. 00:03:57 Ross Host Breakout points here are “the unmentioned longevity discoveries of science, the astonishing world of carbon charcoal, activated charcoal, and super charcoals.” [Carrie responds delightedly.] Super charcoals. “How to detoxify your body, step-by-step,” and “emerging strategies to double your lifespan.” Anybody wanna take bets on how long David Avocado Wolfe lives? 00:04:22 Carrie Host Oh, yeah, let’s see how old is he now? He’s 49. 00:04:25 Ross Host I’m gonna say he prolly lives into his 80s. 00:04:28 Carrie Host Yeah. I’m gonna say 86. 00:04:30 Ross Host So, uh, I don’t know if that would be doubling of the lifespan, but— 00:04:33 Carrie Host Wait, hold on. 1970 plus 86, cause he was born in ‘70, would be 2056—I’m just putting it on my calendar to check. 00:04:41 Ross Host Good idea. [Carrie affirms.] Hopefully—we’re a little younger than he is, hopefully we’ll be around to pay attention. You see so often, people like Deepak Chopra will talk about these tips to stay eternally youthful and, you know, he’s still looking good but he ages just like everybody else. 00:04:57 Carrie Host Yeah. I’m gonna have to write a note to myself cause it takes a long time to flip forward to 2056. 00:05:04 Ross Host Indeed. Yeah, I feel like this would be a fun endeavour to kinda go through and find all the—the gurus and teachers and, you know, thought leaders telling you secrets to eternal life and just keep a record of how long they live. 00:05:18 Carrie Host Yeah. It’s like Deepak Chopra kind of invited that when he wrote that book about not-aging and then aged, you know, like a normal person. 00:05:26 Ross Host Right now the batting average is the same for everybody. Pretty much. 00:05:30 Carrie Host Yeah. At least that upper end. 00:05:34 Ross Host Right, yeah, you know— 00:05:35 Carrie Host We haven’t figured out past about a hundred. 00:05:37 Ross Host The centenarians are very impressive. They are few and far between, and they don’t get much farther than like a hundred sixteen in extreme cases. [Carrie affirms.] So, uh, alright— 00:05:46 Carrie Host Which is weird cause Ella’s gonna live that long. 00:05:48 Ross Host Aren’t you, Ella? 00:05:49 Carrie Host [Speaking for dog] “Yes I am, I am asleep.” 00:05:51 Ross Host I don’t know, I’m just registering my prediction that David Avocado Wolfe does not double his lifespan. 00:05:56 Carrie Host Yeah, I guess no matter what year you live to, you could be like, “but I was supposed to live to 41.” 00:06:04 Ross Host In his byline it says he is “the Indiana Jones of the superfood and longevity multiverse.” 00:06:09 Carrie Host What does that mean? [Ross laughs.] He goes into those universes and takes things back to ours, like an archaeologist? 00:06:23 Ross Host They belong in a museum! Uh, “David’s innovative ideas and products have transformed health food stores, grocery departments, and kitchens worldwide. He’s the co-developer of the NutriBullet—” 00:06:35 Carrie Host Is that true? 00:06:36 Ross Host Yeah, that’s what it says! 00:06:37 Carrie Host I gave Drew a NutriBullet for his birthday! 00:06:39 Ross Host There we go. 00:06:41 Carrie Host Oh my goodness, it’s in the kitchen right now. 00:06:42 Ross Host Well, I bet the avocados taste great in it.