H3934 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE June 19, 1997 Hastings (WA) McHugh Sanford PROPOSED CHANGES TO RULE ON end of the rule and then make the Hayworth McInnis Sawyer Hefley McIntosh Saxton DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION unanimous-consent request again. If it Hefner McIntyre Scarborough (Mr. BONIOR asked and was given is objected to, I will move that unani- Herger McKeon Schaefer, Dan permission to address the House for 1 mous-consent request before the vote Hill McKinney Schaffer, Bob Hilleary Meehan Schumer minute.) on the rule. Hilliard Meek Scott Mr. BONIOR. Mr. Speaker, I wish to Mr. BONIOR. Mr. Speaker, I thank Hinojosa Menendez Sensenbrenner inquire of the distinguished chairman Hobson Metcalf Serrano the gentleman. Hoekstra Mica Sessions of the Committee on Rules, the gen- Holden Miller (FL) Shadegg tleman from New York [Mr. SOLOMON], f Hooley Minge Shaw what proposed changes he may have to Horn Moakley Shays offer with respect to the rule. Hostettler Molinari Sherman Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, will the PROVIDING FOR CONSIDERATION Houghton Mollohan Shimkus OF H.R. 1119, NATIONAL DEFENSE Hoyer Moran (KS) Shuster gentleman yield? Hulshof Morella Sisisky Mr. BONIOR. I yield to the gen- AUTHORIZATION ACT FOR FIS- Hunter Murtha Skaggs tleman from New York. CAL YEAR 1998 Hutchinson Myrick Skeen Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, I would Hyde Nadler Skelton Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, by di- say to the minority whip that out of Inglis Neal Slaughter rection of the Committee on Rules, I Jackson (IL) Nethercutt Smith (MI) consideration for the ranking member call up House Resolution 169 and ask Jackson-Lee Neumann Smith (NJ) of the Committee on National Secu- (TX) Ney Smith (OR) for its immediate consideration. Jefferson Northup Smith (TX) rity, the gentleman from California Jenkins Norwood Smith, Linda [Mr. DELLUMS], who we have the great- The Clerk read the resolution, as fol- Johnson (CT) Nussle Snowbarger est respect for, I have said that many lows: Johnson (WI) Olver Snyder times and will say it over and over Johnson, E. B. Ortiz Solomon H. RES. 169 Johnson, Sam Owens Souder again. He and I come from different Jones Oxley Spence philosophical persuasions, but he is one Resolved, That at any time after the adop- Kanjorski Packard Spratt of the true gentlemen and sincere tion of this resolution, the Speaker may, Kaptur Pallone Stabenow Members of this body. pursuant to clause 1(b) of rule XXIII, declare Kasich Pappas Stearns the House resolved into the Committee of Kelly Parker Stenholm Because of that, we are going to Kennedy (MA) Pascrell Strickland change this rule and we are going to re- the Whole House on the state of the Union for consideration of the bill (H.R. 1119) to au- Kennedy (RI) Paul Stump move an amendment that would be a Kennelly Paxon Stupak thorize appropriations for fiscal years 1998 Kildee Payne Sununu striking amendment on the B–2 bomb- and 1999 for military activities of the Depart- Kilpatrick Pease Talent er, remove that from the rule, having ment of Defense, to prescribe military per- Kim Pelosi Tanner made it in order. And we will make in sonnel strengths for fiscal years 1998 and Kind (WI) Peterson (MN) Tauscher Kingston Peterson (PA) Tauzin order the original Dellums amendment 1999, and for other purposes. The first read- Kleczka Petri Taylor (MS) No. 104, which is a striking amendment ing of the bill shall be dispensed with. All Knollenberg Pickering Taylor (NC) and the transfer of those funds. That points of order against consideration of the Kolbe Pickett Thomas will be one change in the rule that I bill are waived. General debate shall be con- Kucinich Pitts Thompson will propose in a few minutes. fined to the bill and the amendments made LaHood Porter Thornberry in order by this resolution and shall not ex- Lampson Portman Thune Second, we will make in order an Ev- Lantos Poshard Thurman erett amendment No. 77 dealing with ceed two hours equally divided and con- trolled by the chairman and ranking minor- Largent Price (NC) Tiahrt the depots around this country with a Latham Pryce (OH) Tierney ity member of the Committee on National LaTourette Quinn Torres 1-hour debate. Security. After general debate the bill shall Lazio Radanovich Traficant We will substitute a Frank amend- be considered for amendment under the five- Leach Rahall Turner ment; we will make in order a Frank minute rule. Levin Ramstad Upton amendment No. 85 instead of the Frank Lewis (CA) Rangel Velazquez SEC. 2. (a) It shall be in order to consider Lewis (GA) Redmond Vento amendment No. 83. In addition to that, as an original bill for the purpose of amend- Lewis (KY) Regula Visclosky we will make a Traficant amendment ment under the five-minute rule the amend- Linder Reyes Walsh No. 3 authorizing the use of the defense Livingston Riggs Wamp ment in the nature of a substitute rec- LoBiondo Rivers Waters personnel to assist border patrols to ommended by the Committee on National Lofgren Rodriguez Watkins stop illegal immigration coming into Security now printed in the bill. The com- Lowey Roemer Watt (NC) this country. And we will make in mittee amendment in the nature of a sub- Lucas Rogan Watts (OK) order a Weldon amendment No. 110 stitute shall be considered as read. All points Luther Rogers Weldon (FL) of order against the committee amendment Maloney (CT) Rohrabacher Weldon (PA) which is a sense of Congress on the Maloney (NY) Ros-Lehtinen Weller need for Russian transparency on the in the nature of a substitute are waived. Manzullo Rothman Wexler Yamantau Mountain project. That is (b) No amendment to the committee Martinez Roukema Weygand amendment in the nature of a substitute Mascara Roybal-Allard White somewhat classified information, but Matsui Royce Whitfield most of the Members understand what shall be in order except the amendments McCarthy (MO) Rush Wicker that is all about. printed in the report of the Committee on McCollum Ryun Wolf Mr. BONIOR. Mr. Speaker, is the gen- Rules accompanying this resolution and McCrery Sabo Woolsey amendments en bloc described in section 3 of McDade Salmon Wynn tleman anticipating any additional this resolution. McDermott Sanchez Yates time on any of these amendments? McGovern Sanders Young (AK) Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, if the (c) Except as specified in section 5 of this McHale Sandlin Young (FL) gentleman will continue to yield, we resolution, each amendment printed in the report of the Committee on Rules shall be NOT VOTING—18 will include on the B–2 issue, we will considered only in the order printed in the 1 extend that to 1 ⁄2 hours by agreement. report, may be offered only by a Member des- b 1223 And, of course, the Everett amendment ignated in the report, shall be considered as has an hour of debate based on the read, and shall not be subject to a demand Messrs. BOB SCHAFFER of Colorado, agreement we just discussed. for division of the question in the House or WYNN, and WELDON of Florida, Ms. Mr. BONIOR. Mr. Speaker, I thank in the Committee of the Whole. Unless other- DANNER, Mr. NEAL of Massachusetts, the gentleman. I thank him and the wise specified in the report, each amendment Mr. JEFFERSON, Ms. KAPTUR, and gentleman from Texas [Mr. ARMEY] and printed in the report shall be debatable for Messrs. LARGENT, LEVIN, and THOMAS, others for signing off on this agree- ten minutes equally divided and controlled and Ms. SANCHEZ, Mr. MCDERMOTT, and ment. by the proponent and an opponent and shall not be subject to amendment (except that Mr. OWENS changed their vote from Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, if the ‘‘yea’’ to ‘‘nay.’’ the chairman and ranking minority member gentleman will continue to yield, I will of the Committee on National Security each So the motion was not agreed to. call up the rule in just a moment. I will may offer one pro forma amendment for the The result of the vote was announced make this unanimous-consent request. purpose of further debate on any pending as above recorded. If it is objected to, I will wait until the amendment). June 19, 1997 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H3935 (d) All points of order against amendments House Resolution 169, it may be in move it and there would be a recorded printed in the report of the Committee on order: vote taken at that time. Rules and amendments en bloc described in To offer the amendment numbered 7 Having said that, Mr. Speaker, this is section 3 of this resolution are waived. (e) Consideration of the first two amend- in part 1 of House Report 105–137 in the the traditional structured rule that the ments in part 1 of the report of the Commit- modified form that I have placed at the Committee on Rules has provided in tee on Rules shall begin with an additional desk, to debate it for 90 minutes equal- past years for defense authorization period of general debate, which shall be con- ly divided and controlled by the gen- bills. fined to the subject of United States forces tleman from California [Mr. DELLUMS] First, this rule provides 2 hours of in Bosnia and shall not exceed one hour or his designee and an opponent, and general debate. The committee amend- equally divided and controlled by the chair- otherwise to consider it as though ment in the nature of a substitute is man and ranking minority member of the printed in House Report 105–137; made in order as the original text. Committee on National Security. To offer the amendment numbered 15 Next, the rule provides that no SEC. 3. It shall be in order at any time for the chairman of the Committee on National in part 2 of House Report 105–137 in the amendment will be in order except Security or his designee to offer amend- modified form that I have placed at the those in the report accompanying this ments en bloc consisting of amendments desk, and to debate it for 20 minutes rule. Each amendment will be debat- printed in part 2 of the report of the Com- equally divided and controlled by the able for the amount of time provided in mittee on Rules not earlier disposed of or gentleman from Massachusetts [Mr. the Committee on Rules report. germane modifications of any such amend- FRANK] or his designee and an oppo- The amendment will not be subject ment. Amendments en bloc offered pursuant nent, and otherwise to consider it as to amendment except as specified in to this section shall be considered as read the Committee on Rules report. How- (except that modifications shall be reported), though printed in House Report 105–137; shall be debatable for twenty minutes equal- To offer an amendment by the gen- ever, the chairman and ranking minor- ly divided and controlled by the chairman tleman from Alabama [Mr. EVERETT] or ity member of the Committee on Na- and ranking minority member of the Com- his designee in the form that I have tional Security may each offer one pro mittee on National Security or their des- placed at the desk, and to debate it for forma amendment for the purpose of ignees, shall not be subject to amendment, 1 hour equally divided and controlled further debate on any pending amend- and shall not be subject to a demand for divi- by the gentleman from Alabama [Mr. ment. sion of the question in the House or in the EVERETT] or his designee and an oppo- The rule provides that before the Committee of the Whole. For the purpose of House considers the two amendments inclusion in such amendments en bloc, an nent, and otherwise to consider it as amendment printed in the form of a motion though printed in House Report 105–137; dealing with the subject of United to strike may be modified to the form of a To offer an amendment offered by the States forces in Bosnia, there will be germane perfecting amendment to the text gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. an extra hour and a half of general de- originally proposed to be stricken. The origi- WELDON] or his designee in the form bate, if the unanimous-consent request nal proponent of an amendment included in that I have placed at the desk, which goes through, controlled by the chair- such amendments en bloc may insert a state- shall be in order as though printed as man and ranking minority member of ment in the Congressional record imme- amendment numbered 42 in part 2 of the Committee on National Security. diately before the disposition of the amend- House Report 105–137; Next, the rule provides at any time ment en bloc. the chairman of the Committee on Na- SEC. 4. The Chairman of the Committee of And to offer an amendment by the the Whole may: (1) postpone until a time gentleman from Ohio [Mr. TRAFICANT] tional Security or his designee may during further consideration in the Commit- or his designee in the form that I have offer en bloc amendments consisting of tee of the Whole a request for a recorded placed at the desk, which shall be in amendments printed in part 2 of the vote on any amendment; and (2) reduce to order as though printed as amendment Committee on Rules report or germane five minutes the minimum time for elec- numbered 43 in part 2 of House Report modifications of those amendments. tronic voting on any postponed question that 105–137; These en bloc packages of amend- follows another electronic vote without in- And, finally, the additional period of ments will be debatable for 20 minutes tervening business, provided that the mini- mum time for electronic voting on the first general debate on the subject of United and will not be subject to amendment. in any series of questions shall be fifteen States forces in Bosnia, described in This rule provides authority for the minutes. section 2(e) of House Resolution 169, chairman of the Committee of the SEC. 5. The Chairman of the Committee of shall precede the offering of amend- Whole to roll votes in order to make the Whole may recognize for consideration of ments numbered 8 and 9 in part 1 of the more efficient use of Members’ time. any amendment printed in the report of the report of the Committee on Rules rath- That means we can cluster votes to try Committee on Rules out of the order printed, er than the amendments numbered 1 to save the Members’ time running but not sooner than one hour after the chair- back and forth. man of the Committee on National Security and 2 in that part. or a designee announces from the floor a re- And, Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous Amendments may be considered in an quest to that effect. consent to dispense with the reading of order different from that in the Com- SEC. 6. At the conclusion of consideration the amendments. mittee on Rules report if the chairman of the bill for amendment the Committee The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there of the Committee on National Security shall rise and report the bill to the House objection to the request of the gen- or his designee gives at least 1 hour’s with such amendments as may have been tleman from New York? notice on the floor of the House. adopted. Any Member may demand a sepa- Mr. RILEY. Mr. Speaker, I object. The rule also provides for a motion rate vote in the House on any amendment to recommit with or without instruc- adopted in the Committee of the Whole to The SPEAKER pro tempore. Objec- the bill or to the committee amendment in tion is heard. tions. the nature of a substitute. The previous The gentleman from New York [Mr. The very last section of this rule, Mr. question shall be considered as ordered on SOLOMON] is recognized for 1 hour. Speaker, provides for laying on the the bill and amendments thereto to final Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, for pur- table three rules which were originally passage without intervening motion except poses of debate only, I yield 30 minutes reported in order to provide for the one motion to recommit with or without in- to the gentleman from Texas [Mr. consideration of supplemental appro- structions. FROST], pending which I yield myself priation bills. Then the rules became SEC. 7. House Resolutions 161, 162, and 165 are laid on the table. such time as I may consume. During unnecessary when the supplemental ap- consideration of the resolution, all propriation bill was taken up by unani- b 1230 time yielded is for the purpose of de- mous consent. The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. CAL- bate only. Mr. Speaker, of the approximately VERT). The gentleman from New York Mr. Speaker, let me explain again 130-odd amendments submitted to the [Mr. SOLOMON] is recognized for 1 hour. what will happen here. The unanimous- Committee on Rules, there have been REQUEST FOR MODIFICATION TO HOUSE consent request making these changes 56 made in order by the rule. Nineteen RESOLUTION 169 to the rule has been objected to, so at of these, and now 20, are offered by Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, I ask the end of this debate I would propound Democrats and 29 are offered by Repub- unanimous consent that during the the unanimous-consent request again. licans and 5 have bipartisan sponsor- consideration of H.R. 1119, pursuant to If that is objected to, I would then ship. This means that 40 percent of the H3936 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE June 19, 1997 amendments submitted to the Commit- H.R. 1119 contains, Mr. Speaker, a 2.8- are heading toward 9. What are we tee on Rules are made in order by this percent pay raise for every soldier and going to do if we have to put another rule. Given the time constraints for sailor and marine and air force man seven divisions back in a place called consideration of this bill on the floor, serving in our military today, and adds Desert Storm or in the gulf, when this rule represents a very fair balance significant funding increases for bar- China is selling and giving Iran mis- between the majority and the minor- racks, family housing, and child care siles that are going to create an inci- ity. centers. dent over there that is sure as heck Mr. Speaker, on the bill itself, let me I say to my colleagues, if Members going to draw us back into it? Where just again congratulate the gentleman have not visited these military instal- will we get those seven divisions if we from South Carolina [Mr. SPENCE], lations around our own country and only have nine altogether? That means chairman of the Committee on Na- overseas, they really should do it, be- we will have to pull troops from all tional Security, for once again putting cause much of the housing, both in over the world, put them in one place, together an excellent piece of legisla- America and overseas, is inadequate. It and then what would we do if there was tion under very difficult cir- is an embarrassment to put our fami- an outbreak in North Korea? We would cumstances. And again let me com- lies of military personnel today in be in serious trouble. mend the ranking minority member, them. Mr. Speaker, as former Secretary of the gentleman from California [Mr. When I served in the Marine Corps, Defense William Perry said, a Clinton DELLUMS], for his outstanding work. more than 45 years ago, 90 percent of us appointee, we are already at the mini- Again, this is a very controversial were single. We did not have to worry mum force structure level we need in issue. We all come from different philo- so much about housing. Today, 70 per- order to retain our role as a global sophical persuasions, but the gen- cent of our military people are mar- power. We should think about that. Of tleman from California has certainly ried, both men and women that serve course, this is not the fault of the Com- done all he could do to cooperate in in our military, and they deserve de- mittee on National Security, as I said this matter. cent quarters to live in. before. They have operated under very Mr. Speaker, it is absolutely impera- The bill also sets up a commission to severe constraints, and those con- tive this bill contain adequate funding resolve the complex and very troubling straints are the repeated unwillingness for our military personnel who are problems of gender integrated training, of our President to pay adequate atten- right now out in the field standing while requiring psychological screen- tion to this Nation’s defense. vigilant on behalf of all Americans, ing for all drill instructors. b 1245 particularly in a place called Bosnia This bill does not have, Mr. Speaker, Despite his State of the Union pledge right now, and up in the border be- a provision which would separate the tween North and South Korea. years ago, President Clinton continues basic training of men and women in to cut national defense funding in his It is imperative that this bill contain our military, and I worry about that. enough quality of life incentives to re- budget he presents to this body and has In the Marine Corps, we do not do that. fought our defense levels tooth and tain and recruit the best people we can We separate them, and we do not have from all walks of life across this coun- nail. some of these problems that have Mr. Speaker, that to me is a scandal, try. cropped up. I really do hope we will It is imperative that this bill contain but it is one we can overcome by vot- study this issue and try to resolve it. enough funding for operations and ing for this rule and voting for this bill We want to be as fair as we can to ev- maintenance so that our troops can be today and then working together to eryone, but we want to try and solve as highly trained as possible in case find additional moneys for the No. 1 the problems that have cropped up in they are called into battle. constitutional duty of this House. We, It is imperative that this bill contain recent months and years. as representatives of our people, are adequate funding for weapons procure- Despite all these excellent provisions primarily here to provide for national ment and research and development so in this bill, Mr. Speaker, let me go on defense for all Americans adequate to that our troops can fight and defend the record right here and now. We con- protect our strategic interest in and themselves with only the very best tinue to provide inadequate, yes, inad- around the globe and, in doing so, give equipment and technology available. equate funds for this Nation’s defenses. our young men and women in uniform Mr. Speaker, it is imperative that This bill will represent the 13th the best state-of-the-art equipment this bill set out policies which are con- straight year of inflation-adjusted cuts that we can give them to carry out sistent with and seek to maintain the to this budget. No other account in the their mission should, God forbid, they unique warrior culture of the military, Federal budget has been cut so much. ever be called into harm’s way. for without that, we cannot win wars, Weapons procurements, which have So I would ask my colleagues at the and that is what our military is there been cut by nearly 70 percent since appropriate time to come over here and for, God forbid they ever be needed. 1985, remain at least $14 billion below vote for this rule and then let us de- Mr. Speaker, to the best extent pos- what the Joint Chiefs of Staff say we bate the bill and let us pass it. sible, this bill, I think, does all of that. need to be in order to retain our tech- Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of At $268 billion, the bill adds nearly $3 nological advantage over potential ad- my time. billion to President Clinton’s wholly versaries. Mr. FROST. Mr. Speaker, I have an inadequate request. The bill adds $3.7 Let us turn that around and compare opening statement. However, at this billion to the President’s request for it to the People’s Republic of Com- time, prior to my opening statement, I procurement and $1.5 billion for re- munist China, where in the last 4 years yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from search and development over and above their budget has almost doubled. In the California [Mr. FAZIO] because of a the original request. 1990’s alone they have increased more scheduling conflict; and then, with the These accounts contain adequate than 50 percent, and in the last year concurrence of the majority, I would funding for the weapon systems of to- alone 15 percent. We have to think like to proceed to my opening state- morrow, such as the F–22 stealth fight- about that. ment as soon as the gentleman from er, the B–2 bomber, the Marine Corps Our military is vastly smaller and California [Mr. FAZIO] is through. V–22 troop carrier, and the next gen- older than just 6 years ago during Mr. FAZIO of California. Mr. Speak- eration of aircraft carriers and sub- Desert Storm. Most experts agree that er, I would like to thank my colleague, marines which are so vital to the stra- such a mission would simply be impos- the gentleman from Texas [Mr. FROST] tegic interests of our country around sible today. One great example of that for yielding me this time at this point the world. are the bombers that we fly today. and for many other courtesies that he These accounts also contain funding Some of them, many of them, are more has rendered, particularly in reference to bring us one step closer to develop- than 40 years old, even much older to this particular piece of legislation. ing and deploying defenses against bal- than the pilots flying them. I rise in opposition to this restrictive listic missiles, something for which, In 1991 we had 18 army divisions and rule as it currently stands. This is a and I can guarantee my colleagues, we used 7 of them in Desert Storm. Today rule, as reported last night, that is out- will all be grateful for some day. we have only 10 divisions, not 18, and rageous, restrictive, undemocratic, and June 19, 1997 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H3937 unprincipled. And if it cannot be re- this bill which never was heard in the those who stood in the well of this paired before we vote on it, and I cer- full committee, but which does terrible House, in this Chamber this morning tainly hope it will be, it ought to be de- detriment to our defense establish- who were supportive of my right to see feated. ment. to it that the process had integrity and Regrettably, the Everett-Sabo-Klug- Mr. FROST. Mr. Speaker, I yield my- had dignity, that they would support Fazio amendment was not made in self such time as I may consume. this amendment. order last night despite overwhelming Let me at the outset kind of review I know that there are other con- evidence that Members of this House where we are. I think it is very impor- troversies here because other matters wanted an opportunity to voice their tant. This may be a little confusing for were brought into it. I would simply position on the issue of using competi- Members. It may be a little confusing say that at the end of the day, we all tion as a means to make DOD dollars for the public watching this proceed- ought to be about transparency and ac- more efficient and save hundreds of ing. countability and, in the marketplace of millions of dollars for the taxpayer. It The gentleman from New York [Mr. ideas, let us have a free and open de- is incredible that the Speaker would SOLOMON] is going to renew his unani- bate. not let the House vote on this highly mous-consent request at the end of this I have never been a person that said important public policy, one that could hour. If there is objection, then he will that I had to guarantee that I win. I lead, I might add, directly to a veto of move this matter, move to amend the probably lost since 1971 more times this entire defense authorization bill. rule. And, of course, the components than any one Member in this Chamber, In my view, lately we have had all that will be in both his unanimous-con- and I try to learn how to lose with too many votes here on the floor to sent request and his motion are the pride and dignity. But what I always support restrictive and undemocratic Dellums-Kasich-Foley amendment, the demand is the right to have a free and rules that muscle Members of this Everett amendment, the Frank Amend- honest debate in the marketplace, and House. Without our amendment, this ment No. 85, Traficant No. 3, and let us have an honest and open ex- bill undermines the military’s effort to Weldon No. 110. change. modernize and prepare for the 21st cen- I will support the effort of the gen- tury by effectively eliminating com- tleman from New York to amend this The amendment of the gentleman petition for depot maintenance work- rule. And assuming that is successful, I from New York provides us with this load. And without competition, we lose will support the rule. And I think I opportunity, and I appreciate that. I crucial cost savings and value for the speak for a number of Members on my urge my colleagues who are supportive American taxpayer. side of the aisle. If his effort is not suc- of those principles to support that This, I might add, was a bipartisan cessful to amend this rule, there are a amendment and let us move on. amendment. It crossed the political very large number of Members on this Mr. FROST. Mr. Speaker, if I may spectrum in this House. And still, the side of the aisle who will vote against continue my remarks at this point, it Speaker, as of last night, has inter- the rule. is my intention to support H.R. 1119, vened to make sure that it would not Let me be clear. Some of my col- the Department of Defense authoriza- go forward. For a while, it looked as leagues, on the merits, when we get to tion bill for fiscal year 1998. though the parochial interests of a few it will not support the Dellums amend- This legislation is one of the most had won out on this amendment. But ment when it is offered tomorrow or important bills this House will con- now the unanimous-consent request, if tonight, but we support right of the sider this year. It authorizes a total of agreed to, would restore this and other gentleman from California [Mr. DEL- $268 billion in spending for our national important amendments. LUMS] to offer his amendment, and that defense, an amount which will ensure If that were to succeed, I would sup- is a very, very important distinction the military superiority of the United port the rule and hope others would, as and a very, very important point. States in the next year and in the well. Because then we would have So I would urge this House, on both years to come. ample time and a breadth of issues that sides of the aisle, to support the This funding level will ensure that we could consider, in the full belief amendment of the gentleman from New production of important weapon sys- that we have given the defense author- York [Mr. SOLOMON] so that we will tems continues, will ensure that the ization bill due consideration. then be able to pass this rule. Should Congress’ efforts to improve quality of I have always supported defense bills the amendment not pass, there is a real life for our men and women in uniform on this floor. However, I cannot, in chance this rule will not pass and we and their families continues, and will good conscience, support this rule if will not be able to proceed to the con- ensure that our commitments around the request of the gentleman from New sideration of this bill today and the re- the world are met. York [Mr. SOLOMON], his unanimous- mainder of this week. consent request, is not agreed to, ei- Mr. Speaker, I yield to the gentleman H.R. 1119, the National Security ther through lack of objection or, more from California [Mr. DELLUMS], and Committee has provided $2.1 billion for likely, as a result of a vote that he will then I want to continue my statement. research and development for the F–22, ask for. Mr. DELLUMS. Mr. Speaker, I thank the next-generation air superiority For those who have not quite figured the gentleman from Texas for yielding. fighter which is designed to replace the it out yet, we are in serious jeopardy of Mr. Speaker, I just want to say that F–16. The Committee has also provided not having a defense bill this year. The I appreciate the fact that we have re- for a total of $1.3 billion for production President will veto this bill in its cur- solved what clearly was about to be a and continued research and develop- rent form. I oppose this bill in its cur- major injustice, and I am appreciative ment for the V–22 Osprey. The addition rent form, and I urge the House to de- that I have been given the opportunity of this aircraft to the Marine Corps and feat this undemocratic and unprinci- to offer the amendment on the B–2 that Special Forces arsenal will ensure that pled rule unless we first vote to amend I drafted. There have been other con- our soldiers and marines can be quick- by supporting the motion of the gen- cessions that the gentleman from New ly and safely delivered into combat. tleman from New York [Mr. SOLOMON]. York [Mr. SOLOMON] has offered as an The Committee has provided funding It needs to be repaired or it needs to amendment to the rule. to restart those parts of the B–2 be defeated. And there is far more on I simply rise to say, first of all, I am Stealth production line which have the table here than the simple paro- appreciative of the fact that we have been shut down. The B–2 is a vital com- chial issues that some think we are sat down to negotiate these matters ponent in our national security system fighting about. This is about preserva- out in good faith. They have been nego- and will continue to serve the Air tion of the American defense industrial tiated to this gentleman’s satisfaction. Force well into the next century. H.R. base. I hope Members will support the I thank my colleague for his kind and 1119 not only restarts production lines, motion to be made and then the rule generous remarks. it provides adequate funding for ad- and, more importantly, listen carefully I would simply underscore for empha- vance procurement to ensure that pro- to the Everett-Sabo amendment when sis the remarks of my distinguished duction of this effective weapons sys- it is offered later to strike language in colleague from Texas, Mr. FROST, that tem continues in future years. H3938 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE June 19, 1997 Mr. Speaker, the Committee on Na- chairman. I think that the gentleman best way to serve them is to maintain tional Security has provided the Presi- from Texas [Mr. FROST] and the gen- our strong commitment to them and to dent’s request for a 2.8-percent pay in- tleman from New York [Mr. SOLOMON] their families and to ensure that they crease for military personnel, has pro- have clearly laid out what is before us have the resources and the training vided a new special duty pay for service in terms of how this is going to unfold. they need when they move on to the at hardship posts, and has increased While we could not possibly make battlefield. This legislation gets us on the family separation allowance. The each of the 120, actually I think it was the right path. I support it. I urge my men and women who make up our more than 130-plus, amendments in colleagues to do the same. armed forces today are being asked to order, I believe that this rule allows for Mr. FROST. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 make enormous sacrifices while in- debate on amendments in all of the minutes to the gentleman from Vir- creasing their workload because of in- major policy areas. Providing for the ginia [Mr. MORAN]. creased operations worldwide and per- national defense is arguably one of the Mr. MORAN of Virginia. Mr. Speak- sonnel drawdown. only 100-percent legitimate, constitu- er, I oppose this rule, because the Com- I think the Committee has rightly fo- tionally mandated functions of the mittee on Rules had an opportunity to cused much of its attention on quality- Federal Government. And that is the rectify an injustice. By choosing not to of-life issues for our soldiers, sailors, business today. rectify it, it perpetuated it. airmen, and marines and their fami- Unlike some of my colleagues and The gentleman who just spoke said lies, for they are the foundation that some of the folks in the administra- that those who defend our country are ensures that our national security is tion, I have never been able to share entitled to the respect that they de- indeed secure. the unrelenting optimism of those who serve. But what about after they have Mr. Speaker, I would ask if I may di- greeted the end of the cold war as the served our country? Mr. Speaker, the rect one question to the gentleman time to set aside all of our national de- Pentagon, the Department of Defense from New York [Mr. SOLOMON]. It was fense systems. is the only large organization in Amer- not clear to me during his explanation, b 1300 ica that once its employees reach the on the question of the Everett amend- I happen to believe that the world is age of 65, they become ineligible for ment, as to where that would appear, that employer’s health care. They be- assuming his amendment is adopted still a very dangerous place. What this means is that we must come ineligible for CHAMPUS, they be- and the Everett amendment is made in come ineligible for TRICARE, and they order. place a premium on good intelligence and highly trained and responsive are told that the only thing they can I would ask the gentleman from New do is go to a military treatment facil- York, do I understand that would ap- armed services. While we have been very successful at cutting spending in ity and wait at the end of the line until pear in part A of the attachment to the everyone else has been served, and only rule? And if so, where in part A will it some areas since the 1980’s, I cannot support further massive defense cuts, if there is no one else waiting for appear? Would it be at the end of part health care can they then be served. It A? cuts which would undermine our long- term security for the sake of some is wrong. It is unfair. We have a solu- Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, will the tion to it. gentleman yield? short-term gain. The chairman of the Committee on Mr. FROST. I yield to the gentleman H.R. 1119 ups the funding in key read- Rules is a sponsor of my legislation from New York. iness accounts and halts reductions in that allows Medicare military retirees Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, I will active duty military personnel. It gives to join the FEHBP. I thought he under- say to the gentleman, it would appear our soldiers and their families long stood the situation. Apparently he does at the end of part A, which means it overdue assistance and improved qual- not understand the situation because if could be brought up at any time. As my ity of life by closing pay gaps, improv- he did, he would want to rectify it, I colleague knows, that is flexible. ing military housing and bolstering the Mr. FROST. I just want to be clear defense health care system, all matters am sure. But the Committee on Rules, that it was in part A and not part B. that we have heard spoken to so far in reporting out this rule, chose not to Mr. SOLOMON. At the end of part A. today. address it in the way that makes the Mr. FROST. That is my assumption. H.R. 1119 will also put modernization most sense, which is to make military I appreciate the gentleman for clarify- programs back on track by giving pri- retirees eligible for the Federal Em- ing that. ority to unfunded requirements, en- ployees Health Benefits Plan. There is I just want to repeat before I yield couraging technological innovation, no other way that military retirees can time to other speakers what I said at and there are many that are very get decent, affordable, accessible the outset. The adoption of the Solo- promising, and ensuring that the Re- health care. All we wanted to do was to mon amendment to the rule later in serve Forces that are more and more demonstrate how it can be done in the this hour is critical. I intend to support often being called to duty have the most efficient manner. It would not that. If the Solomon amendment fails, training and the equipment they need have cost any money. It was the right this rule is in jeopardy and the rule when they are in harm’s way. thing to do. It should have been done. may not pass. So I will support the Sol- This is all designed to ensure one I urge a vote against the rule. omon amendment and, assuming the thing, that we are up to the national Mr. FROST. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 Solomon amendment is in order, I will security challenge, whatever that chal- minutes to the gentleman from Ohio support the rule. lenge is, when it comes: The next Pearl [Mr. TRAFICANT]. Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of Harbor, the next Desert Storm, what- (Mr. TRAFICANT asked and was my time. ever the form, wherever the place, given permission to revise and extend Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, I yield whenever the time. his remarks.) such time as he may consume to the Of course, in today’s budgetary cli- Mr. TRAFICANT. Mr. Speaker, we gentleman from Florida [Mr. GOSS], mate we also recognize that no depart- have one Border Patrol agent for every chairman of the Permanent Select ment can or should escape scrutiny or 2.5 miles of border as I speak. In the Committee on Intelligence and a mem- reform. This legislation does include last 6 weeks Border Patrol agents have ber of the Committee on Rules as well. measures to downsize unnecessary and been shot, one almost killed. Eighty (Mr. GOSS asked and was given per- low priority bureaucracies in the De- percent of certain narcotics are coming mission to revise and extend his re- fense Department and to improve busi- across the border. Illegal immigration marks.) ness practices in the Defense Depart- is running rampant and the American Mr. GOSS. Mr. Speaker, I thank my ment. people have been asking, look, if Con- friend, the gentleman from Glen Falls, And the rule before us makes a bipar- gress has declared war on illegal immi- NY [Mr. SOLOMON], the chairman of the tisan manager’s amendment in order gration, if Congress has declared war Committee on Rules, for yielding the that is going to take further strides in on drugs, then when is Congress going time, and I rise in support of this fair this area. Those who serve their coun- to engage in the battle? When is Con- structured rule as outlined by the try deserve our honor and respect. The gress going to fight? June 19, 1997 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H3939

I want to thank the gentleman from of them was the Davis-Bacon Act that from Florida [Mr. GOSS] did not think New York [Mr. SOLOMON], the chair- is costing enormous sums more than it was worth voting on. The gentleman man; the gentleman from Florida [Mr. we ought to be paying. In fact, the esti- from Georgia [Mr. LINDER], the gentle- GOSS], the gentleman from Massachu- mates are in the billions of dollars of woman from Ohio [Ms. PRYCE], the gen- setts [Mr. MOAKLEY] and everyone who savings if we could simply remove the tleman from Florida [Mr. DIAZ- has helped to make my amendment in Davis-Bacon, the Depression era Davis- BALART], the gentleman from Colorado order. Bacon, archaic law from the books [Mr. MCINNIS], the gentleman from The Traficant amendment says that where military construction is con- Washington [Mr. HASTINGS] and the our military, that right now many of cerned. gentlewoman from North Carolina them are falling out of chairs without If we want the most for the money, [Mrs. MYRICK] did not even think it arm rests overseas, can be transferred Mr. Speaker, this is something that was worth voting on. Are they going to to our border in the Southwest, not to needs to be done and we need to con- tell me in those States there is not a make arrests but to detain and hold il- sider it in the future even though it is drug problem, that we do not need to legal immigrants and people running not considered in this particular bill. know whether or not the guys who are across the border with backpacks full Mr. FROST. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 supposed to be on our side being paid of narcotics and cocaine for the Border minutes to the gentleman from Mis- by our country are on drugs? Patrol. sissippi [Mr. TAYLOR]. Ronald Reagan back in 1986 when he Mr. Speaker, let me say this. The Mr. TAYLOR of Mississippi. Mr. was the President of the United States taxpayers of this country are financing Speaker, I want to thank the gen- called for a drug testing policy, but it chaos literally on our border. It is time tleman for yielding me this time. I am was not mandatory. I think we need to to fight. Our troops are cashing their going to oppose this rule for a number know if the people who work for you checks overseas, going to the theater of reasons. But first and foremost, this and me are on drugs. It is a shame that in Rome, for dinner in Frankfurt, and is supposed to be a democracy. This is the Committee on Rules does not feel we have narcotics corrupting our supposed to be the place where the the same way. I urge my colleagues to cities, our government, and destroying Members who were sent here by about vote against this rule. the lives of our children. I say it is 550,000 people, citizens of this country, Mr. FROST. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 time, Congress, to wage war. have the opportunity to make things minutes to the gentleman from Ver- I want to thank those who are trying better. Unfortunately the Committee mont [Mr. SANDERS]. and attempting to make this amend- on Rules in many instances decided Mr. SANDERS. I thank the gen- ment in order. I will debate this that those people do not count, that we tleman for yielding me this time. Mr. Speaker, while the recent amendment when it comes. The debate cannot make things better, that we do changes in the rule announced by the on this amendment is necessary. That not even have the chance to make gentleman from New York [Mr. SOLO- is where the debate should take place, things better. MON] certainly improve the bill, and I not on the streets but in the halls of One of the things that I would have will strongly be supporting the Del- Congress. very much liked to addressed and Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 asked the Committee on Rules yester- lums amendment, among others, it is my view that when we are dealing with minutes to the gentleman from Colo- day to address involves the war on a $268 billion authorization, an author- rado [Mr. HEFLEY], one of the most re- drugs. Our Nation spends about $12 bil- ization which ultimately determines spected Members of this body. lion on the war on drugs. As I speak we Mr. HEFLEY. Mr. Speaker, I support have AWAC’s flying over Central and the priorities of this country, that every Member of this body who has this rule. No, it does not have every- South America. We have what is called thought about this issue has a right to thing in it that I would like. I think E–3’s and P–3’s flying over Central and have their amendment offered on the the gentleman from Virginia men- South America. We have troops on the floor of the House and debated on the tioned an area that we all ought to be ground in Colombia in at least 3 dif- floor of the House. concerned about when we talk about ferent locations. At one of those loca- In a fundamental way, today we are military retirees, but I think basically tions about 80 miles away, the Colom- discussing the priorities of this Nation. it is a good rule. But there is one item bia guerrillas overran a Colombian We are talking about spending tens and that I wish we had made in order that army base and either killed or captured tens of billions of dollars on weapons I had requested, and that is we are re- everyone there in the month of Feb- systems that many experts think we do quired in the area of defense to do more ruary. It is a real war, with real deaths. not need while at the same time Mem- with less now. And so we want every Just a few years ago in Peru, one of our bers of Congress want to cut back on single dollar to be spent in the most ef- C–130’s on a reconnaissance patrol was Medicare, want to cut back on Medic- fective way possible. I wish the gen- shot up by Peruvian aircraft. We do not aid, while we continue to have the tleman had made my Davis-Bacon know whether he did it by mistake or highest rate of childhood poverty in amendment in order so that we could on purpose. We do know that an Amer- the industrialized world, while people discuss the amount of savings that ican airman fell 11,000 feet to his death. are sleeping on the street, while mil- could come if we exempted from the It is a real war, with real money, and lions of families cannot afford to send Davis-Bacon Act military construc- real American lives being lost. their kids to college. tion. One amendment that I wanted to Mr. Speaker, what we are talking We are over 70 years behind in our in- offer that the Committee on Rules cow- about today are national priorities. Do frastructure capitalization in our ardly did not even vote on would have we put more money into B–2 bombers armed services. In housing alone, de- said we need to test those civilians who and less money into health care for our pending on the service, we are 10 to 40 work for the Department of Defense to senior citizens? More money into sub- years behind. There simply is not see whether or not they are on drugs, marines and not adequately fund edu- enough money in MILCON to get from particularly those involved in the cation or health care for the people? here to there under the present cir- counternarcotics effort. What good Those are issues of enormous con- cumstances. does it do to spend all of this money sequence. Every Member of this body And so we went to Secretary Perry and put people’s lives on the line if the should have a right to participate in and sat down with him when he was people who are manning the aircraft, that debate. Secretary of Defense and we said, how who are making them work, people Mr. FROST. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 can we do better? One of the things we who know where the missions are going minute to the gentlewoman from New did was to set up some privatization of to go, are on drugs? What if they are in York [Mrs. MALONEY]. housing on military bases. I think that cahoots with the drug dealers? Mrs. MALONEY of New York. I helped some. But we also said, what are The gentleman from New York [Mr. thank the gentleman for yielding me the impediments to getting the most SOLOMON] did not even think it was this time. bang for the buck? And they gave us a worth voting on. The gentleman from Mr. Speaker, this Congress is looking list of those impediments and we have California [Mr. DREIER] did not think it at the biggest peacetime military scan- been trying to deal with those. But one was worth voting on. The gentleman dal in recent history. Too often women H3940 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE June 19, 1997 enter the military to serve their coun- rest of our military budget as far as op- of other committees, it would allow try, yet end up having to defend them- eration and maintenance is concerned. them to sink ships laden with PCB’s selves. We have seen cases of rape, sex- So I commend the gentleman, and we and other toxins in our oceans. ual assault and harassment at every will do everything we can to make sure What we are doing here is reopening level. Military standards of courage, there is going to be a vote. the ocean dumping ban, and that is honor, and valor have given way to This cuts off the troops as of Decem- something which I know that I cannot sexism, favoritism and power. ber 31. If the President wants to ask for stomach, and I really think that the another 6 months, then we need to de- majority of my colleagues on both b 1315 bate it on this floor. It is a good sides of the aisle share my view. And this Congress is willing to only amendment, and I support the gen- For these reasons, Mr. Speaker, and make minimal efforts toward reform. tleman. many others that I have not stated I More than 2 months ago, I introduced Mr. HILLEARY. Mr. Speaker, I ap- would urge my colleagues to vote a bill asking for a commission to re- preciate it, and I think it is a good against this rule. view the entire military justice sys- rule, and I strongly urge my colleagues Mr. FROST. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 tem. My efforts toward adding the to support it. minutes to the gentleman from Mary- commission to the DOD bill were re- Mr. FROST. Mr. Speaker, I would in- land [Mr. HOYER]. jected. I congratulate the Committee quire how much time is remaining on (Mr. HOYER asked and was given on National Security for at least in- each side. permission to revise and extend his re- cluding part of my proposal in their The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. CAL- marks.) Mr. HOYER. Mr. Speaker, I thank bill, but it falls far too short of what is VERT). The gentleman from Texas [Mr. the gentleman for yielding this time to needed. FROST] has 9 minutes remaining, and We have seen enough scandals, the the gentleman from New York [Mr. me. Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to military does not need another soap SOLOMON] has 12 minutes. opera, and crisis management is not this rule. Mr. FROST. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 Unfortunately the chairman of the going to solve the problem. I urge a no minutes to the gentleman from New Committee on Rules was not present vote on the rule. Jersey [Mr. PALLONE]. when I testified before the Committee Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 Mr. PALLONE. Mr. Speaker, I also on Rules, but immediately preceding minutes to the gentleman from Ten- rise in opposition to the rule. me was a gentleman from Alabama nessee [Mr. HILLEARY]. I had an amendment, as I know many talking about the McVeigh trial and Mr. HILLEARY. Mr. Speaker, would others did, which was germane and, I that 168 Americans, innocent children, the chairman of the Committee on think, important which was denied by women, Government workers, law en- Rules enter into a colloquy with me for the committee for consideration, and I forcement officials, people seeking a couple of minutes? do believe very strongly that there services were murdered by a violent Mr. SOLOMON. I would be glad to should have been more amendments al- criminal heinous act. All of us believe enter into a colloquy with the gen- lowed including the one that I pro- tleman, Mr. Speaker. that justice is being done in that case. posed. Mr. Speaker, 1,000 times that num- Mr. HILLEARY. Mr. Speaker, I want My amendment would strike section ber, yes, 10,000 times that number, have to thank the gentleman for making the 1021 of the bill. That section exempts been murdered, raped, driven from amendment regarding pulling troops the Navy and MARAD from the provi- their homes, subjected to genocide. out of Bosnia in order. As my colleague sions of section 6 of the Toxic Sub- There is no one on this floor for geno- knows, it calls for bringing our troops stances Control Act which governed cide. Everyone on this floor would say home from Bosnia at the end of this disposal of PCB’s and other hazardous that in a civil world international year. It also allows the President to materials on vessels which are being genocide, as we said in Nuremberg, make a written request to extend that exported for scrap or sunk in ocean wa- needs to be acted against collectively date for 6 months. We want to show our ters during tests of operational readi- by the international community and colleagues that the President will, in ness. This section also exempts the hold accountable international crimi- fact, get that vote should he request in Navy and MARAD from related provi- nals. written form to extend for 6 months sions in the Resource Recovery and I sought to offer an amendment to the time for pulling them out. We pro- Conservation Act and the Marine Pro- carry forward the Dayton Peace ac- vided in the amendment for the Senate tection Research and Sanctuaries Act. cords which said that all of the sig- expediated procedures that guaranteed Under these regulations export of natories to that accord and all the na- such a vote, and the House, taking the PCB’s for disposal is banned. While the tions of the United Nations would hold gentleman’s advice, we did not provide Navy and MARAD may wish to export accountable the criminals in Bosnia. that, but I know that in consultation ships for scrap, they have been barred Now I understand that there are de- with the gentleman he wants to assure from doing so because the vessels con- bates about what does that expose us our colleagues that they would get tain PCB’s which are highly toxic, to, how far should we go with our that vote. persistant and mobile, and I think that troops? I understand those are legiti- Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, will the is a pretty good reason to put the mate questions. What I do not under- gentleman yield? brakes on these sales, at least in the stand, Mr. Speaker, is why we could Mr. HILLEARY. I yield to the gen- short run. not debate that on the floor of this, the tleman from New York. Overseas scrapping of PCB contain- people’s House. Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, I most ing vessels poses real threat to foreign Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 certainly do, and I want to, above all workers in the environment. Section minutes to the gentleman from New else I want to bring those troops home. 1021 allows the Navy and MARAD to be York [Mr. FORBES], a very distin- Those troops never should have been treated in a more privileged manner guished member of the New York dele- there in the first place. than private ship owners, and let me gation. As my colleagues know, American add there is no national security rea- Mr. FORBES. Mr. Speaker, I thank foreign policy has always been under son to treat them differently. the gentleman for yielding me the both Democrat and Republican leader- Section 1021 is opposed by the EPA time, and I appreciate the opportunity. ships up until this President has been for these reasons, it is opposed by the I am extremely concerned because to help to defend our treaty allies administration, and finally I do not small businesses across this country against outside military aggression. think this Congress wants to go on the will be ill-served because we have been There is no outside military aggression record in support of allowing ocean denied the opportunity to extend the in this place called Bosnia, the troops dumping of toxic materials. Yet that is very important program that this Con- never should have been there, and we just what section 1021 would allow. By gress enacted back in 1994 to help all need to get them home as soon as we exempting the Navy and MARAD from those small businesses who during the can. Not only is it a terrible expense to the Marine Protection Act, which by cold war kept their lines open, pur- have them there, but it is draining the the way is also under the jurisdiction chased their specialized equipment to June 19, 1997 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H3941 provide for the national security and men and women and those who are offi- at all timely. We have some reviews al- the defense of this Nation. cers. ready as an amendment in the bill it- Back in 1994 this program allowed We should not deny the rights of self, and I commend the chairman for businesses that were suffering because those who have given or offered their not including this commission. of the 13 years, as the good chairman life in the U.S. military. Let us have a On the issue with regard to Bosnia, I mentioned, 13 years of downsizing of fair system to review this military want to commend the chairman for defense; these small businesses have code of justice so that we can treat permitting my base amendment with suffered, and to allow them to convert men and women in the military fairly regard to Bosnia. As I understand, that from defense businesses to commercial and we can promote the men and in the rule we have my colleague has applications, this delta program is crit- women who deserve to be promoted, permitted a perfecting amendment to ical and something very unique in and that they do not need to be denied my base bill. My base amendment is Washington. those opportunities because of infrac- that I want the President’s date of Mr. Speaker, we were not asking for tions that neither one of us would con- June 30, 1998 to be the cut-off date, no any more money. The money is already sider detrimental. more funding for the troops, we bring there. All we were asking was for the It is important to have had that com- the troops back, we have a reporting simple opportunity to extend a pro- mission. I am sorry that we would not mechanism. We want the President to gram that helps small businesses in de- have to debate it today. Vote ‘‘no’’ on report to the Congress his plans for fense-dependent areas like New York this rule. withdrawal, and we also want him to and California and Massachusetts and Mr. Speaker, I rise in vehement opposition report to us on his plans post-June 30 many of the States across the country. to this rule for H.R. 1119, the National De- date on how we cooperate with our al- This program is expiring, and I am fense Authorization. The rule is far too restric- lies because we also, as Republicans, deeply disappointed that the Commit- tive. and every Member of this House wants to insure that it is, in fact, a durable tee on Rules denied America’s small Yesterday, Representative CAROLYN peace in the Balkans. businesses the opportunity to continue MALONEY and I came before the Rules Com- By the Committee on Rules having to partake in this program as we leave mittee to offer an amendment that would have permitted a perfecting amendment, the cold war and look for new opportu- created a bipartisan independent Commission does that mean that the Republican nities to help this Nation. to examine systemic problems in the military leadership supports the Van Hilleary Mr. FROST. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 justice system. The Commission would be re- position over my position? minutes to the gentlewoman from quired to submit their recommendations re- Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, will the Texas [Ms. JACKSON-LEE]. garding any changes the Commission finds gentleman yield? (Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas asked necessary in the judicial, law enforcement, Mr. BUYER. I yield to the gentleman and was given permission to revise and punishment, and data collection areas, to the from New York. extend her remarks.) President and to the Congress. Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, the an- Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas. Mr. Not since 1983, in the Military Justice Act swer is no. There is no Republican lead- Speaker, I thank the gentleman from Advisory Commission Report, has a com- ership position on this issue. The gen- Texas very much for yielding. prehensive review of the military justice sys- tleman’s amendment was made in The men and women of the military tem been undertaken. A new review of the order first as base text for the amend- are some of our most precious re- now antiquated military justice system is criti- ment because of his seniority and his sources. Each and every day when they cal in light of recent media reports of sexual chairmanship of the subcommittee. volunteer for us, they protect this flag misconduct in the military and scandals such The gentleman has a excellent amend- and the United States of America. How as those at Aberdeen and the cases of Ser- ment. We both and, I think, the spon- unfortunate, however, that the Com- geant Major McKinney, Lieutenant Flinn, and sors of the other amendment as well, mittee on Rules decided that a com- General Ralston. These cases highlight the want those troops out of there. mission to study military justice was fact that there is a clear lack of uniformity in b 1330 not appropriate. Not since 1983 have we sentencing in the military, particularly when it decided to review the idea of how mili- comes to sexual misconduct and assault We want to do it in the most expedi- tary justice is rendered. I think it was crimes. tious way that we can. The gentleman’s approach is good in very important. This Commission is also necessary to ad- that it agrees with the President, and The amendment offered by my col- dress the disparity between the treatment of yet 6 months before that cutoff date of league, the gentlewoman from New men and women in the military, as well as the June 30, the gentleman requires the York [Mrs. MALONEY], along with my- targeting of African-Americans and minorities President to give us a policy of how we self was to establish a Commission on in the military justice system. will get out of there, so that our allies Military Justice so that we could un- This rule is outrageously restrictive, Mr. in Europe, because it is a European derstand in this climate of sexual har- Speaker. I urge my colleagues to vote against problem, it is a regional problem in assment and misconduct accusations the rule and in so doing signal their support of that part of the world, can plan on against the men and women in the a Commission to assist us in creating a just service, for once and for all we could America’s intent. and equitable military justice system. So the gentleman’s amendment is ex- understand what the processes are, Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 cellent. To tell the gentleman the what the court martialing process is, minutes to the very distinguished gen- truth, I do not know how I am going to whether or not we have an antiquated tleman from Indiana [Mr. BUYER], sub- vote, because both gentlemen have system that does not respond to the committee chairman of the Committee good amendments. good of the military system that we on National Security. Mr. BUYER. Mr. Speaker, reclaiming need to have. Mr. BUYER. Mr. Speaker, I would my time, I want to thank the gen- I am very disappointed that we did first like to begin by responding to my tleman for allowing so many different not understand that there is an in- good friend, the gentlewoman from opinions to shine on the issue in equity in treatment between men and Texas [Ms. JACKSON-LEE]. As certainly Bosnia. This is very important to our women in the military. There is a ques- chairman having direct oversight of Nation and that of our allies. tion about past adulterous acts as they the military judicial system, the sub- Mr. FROST. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 may relate to one’s promotion. There committee is moving systematically minute to the gentleman from New is a question about one particular eth- and methodically in its reviews of York [Mr. NADLER]. nic or racial group is targeted over an- many of the issues regarding sexual (Mr. NADLER asked and was given other. We do not need to speculate. We misconduct, fraternization, and sexual permission to revise and extend his re- do not need to make accusations. We harassment, and I believe that she is marks.) needed a commission in order to under- jumping to incredible conclusions by Mr. NADLER. Mr. Speaker, I rise to stand, and the American people could saying inequities with regard to race or oppose this restrictive rule. The bill understand, where almost 70 percent of gender which called a racial target authorizes $3.7 billion more on procure- them said they thought it was an un- group, group targets. We are moving ment alone than the administration re- equal justice system between enlisted methodically. This commission was not quests. We should not spend billions of H3942 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE June 19, 1997 dollars that the American people do deal of respect for the chairman of the consideration as many Democrat Mem- not have to buy weapons we do not Committee on Rules, but I want those bers as we could, as many Republican have to fight enemies that do not exist. of my colleagues who can hear me, who Members as we could. It is a fair bal- Mr. Speaker, I offered an amendment can hear the sound of my voice to lis- ance, which I think the manager of the that would have reduced the spending ten to the amendment that was turned bill on that side of the aisle has spoken for the F–22 fighter plane to the level down by the Committee on Rules yes- to. approved by the Senate Committee on terday. Here we are talking about the But I think the important thing is Armed Services. We should not be fund- military, we are talking about equip- that, Mr. Speaker, we do not ever want ing the development of three compet- ment, we are talking about facilities. to look at the defense authorization as ing fighter planes for the same mission, I had an amendment that said we a jobs program. But I am going to tell but the rule does not permit my have to honor, we have to honor our my colleagues something, it is one of amendment even to be discussed on the commitment to the men and women the best jobs programs we have in floor of the House. Is it perhaps be- who serve in the military. If we tell America. Because when you look at the cause the contractor, the prime con- them we are going to provide certain young men and women that are serving tractor is based in Marietta, GA? benefits to them when they retire, they in our military today, we can be so It is a disservice to the American are entitled to them and we ought to proud of those people. They come from people that this amendment and scores keep the promise. That is the simple all walks of life, they are a real cross- of others that would have allowed for amendment. section of this country. Whether they the discussion of the size and scope of I tell my colleagues, it does not make serve 20 years in the military or just 4 this budget, were barred from the floor any difference how many pieces of years like I think the acting speaker of the House. If we had a proper rule, equipment we build, what kind of fa- did, or 2 years, they learn something as we could discuss cost overruns, its pro- cilities we build. If we do not have good citizens. They may have come out of an gram delays, its fuel leaks, its proto- men and women serving in the mili- inner city perhaps, and maybe they did types that crash and burn, brought to tary, it makes no difference. All I was not have a father. you by the hard-earned dollars of the asking is that we honor our commit- Mr. Speaker, when I grew up, my dad American taxpayer, and we could vote ment. walked out on me and my mom at the on that funding. The U.S. military, when it makes a very height of the Depression. We But the rule will not permit that. A commitment to a young person who never saw him again. We had tough rule that prevents such debate and pre- comes in and signs up and says they times. But, Mr. Speaker, these young vents the House from voting on wheth- are going to get health benefits, they men growing up, when they go in the er to waste billions of dollars on three are going to get certain benefits when military, they learn words like pride separate duplicative programs should they retire, all of us know, we have and patriotism and voluntarism. They not be approved. I urge my colleagues casework. We know. they have a prob- learn what good citizenship is. When to defeat it. lem getting those benefits. they get out, whether it is 20 years Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 Mr. Speaker, we are asking the Unit- later or 2 years later, they go back to minute to the gentlewoman from Flor- ed States to honor their commitment, where they came from and they become ida [Mrs. FOWLER], another very out- to honor it. good, upstanding citizens in that com- standing Member of this body from Mr. FROST. Mr. Speaker, I yield my- munity. Florida and a member of the commit- self the balance of my time. That is why this bill is so important; that is why this level of funding is so tee. Mr. Speaker, as I stated at the out- Mrs. FOWLER. Mr. Speaker, I thank set, it is my intention to support the important. Mr. SKELTON. Mr. Speaker, will the the Chairman and I appreciate all of amendment about to be offered by the gentleman yield? his support. However, I do have to gentleman from New York [Mr. SOLO- Mr. SOLOMON. I yield to the gen- stand and oppose this rule if the MON] to the rule. It is a balanced tleman from Missouri. amendment to the rule is adopted. amendment which provides balance to Mr. SKELTON. Mr. Speaker, I would The House committee on National this rule. I hope it is successful. If it is like to associate myself with the gen- Security carefully crafted the language successful, I will support the rule. If it tleman’s recent remarks about the in this bill in order to overturn an ef- is not successful, a number of Members young men and women in uniform. I fort by this President to politicize the on my side of the aisle will vote no on am convinced, after being on the com- BRAC process. The Everett amend- the rule. I urge adoption of the Solo- mittee on which I serve, formerly ment, which is an attempt to amend mon amendment, and if the Solomon known as the Armed Services Commit- the rule with the Everett amendment, amendment is adopted, I urge adoption tee and now the Committee on Na- would overturn the carefully crafted of the rule. tional Security, and meeting with language in the House committee bill Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance them in all parts of this country and and put privatization in place back in of my time. other countries where they are lit- the bill. Now they call it public-private Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, I yield erally on the edge in representing the competition, but make no mistake myself the balance of my time. American interests, that they are the about it. The way they have structured Mr. Speaker, it is necessary to apolo- finest military we have ever had. They this public-private competition, it is gize to Members when we have a bill are truly a national treasure, and it is privatization in place. like this that deals with $260 billion, up to us in this Congress under the The BRAC process will remain politi- $270 billion of the Federal budget. I Constitution to take care of them, to cized if the Everett amendment is would like to bring this bill on the make sure that we have them properly passed today. It should not be a part of floor as an open rule and let all 435 equipped, properly trained, and that we this rule. We need to ensure that the Members work their will, but, Mr. keep the good people in, encourage integrity of the BRAC process is main- Speaker, we just cannot do that. We them so that the days and years ahead, tained. Many of us, I have a business in have never done it, even when the when those troubles come, and sure as my district that is being closed, 8,000 Democrats had control of the House. the Lord made little green apples, jobs lost. But we did not go and say let We have to have a structured rule in those troubles will come, whether they us politicize the process, let us keep it order to finish this bill in 4 or 5 or 6 can either deter or stop aggression. open. The BRAC process was set up to days. We struggled with all of these I appreciate the gentleman’s kind re- keep politics out of it. Defeat the Ever- amendments. We tried to be fair. We marks about the people in the mili- ett amendment, and if it is in the rule, tried to give those amendments that tary, and that is why I think this bill defeat the rule. are agreed to by both sides, to put is worthwhile. Mr. FROST. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 them on the floor for reasonable de- Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, re- minute to the gentleman from Califor- bate, but it just is not possible to do claiming my time, the gentleman has nia [Mr. CONDIT]. that. some good amendments made in order Mr. CONDIT. Mr. Speaker, I stand Mr. Speaker, what we do have is a and I will be supporting every one of today to oppose the rule. I have a great fair rule that has certainly taken into them. June 19, 1997 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H3943 Mr. Speaker, in closing, let me say share of the total cost of expanding the (D) Then Commander-in-Chief of the Stra- that not only do they learn these words North Atlantic Treaty Organization exceeds tegic Rocket Forces General Igor Sergeyev and actions of good citizenship, they 10 percent, no further United States funds denied that the facility was associated with may be expended for the cost of such expan- nuclear forces. even get a little religion. They learn sion until that percentage is reduced to (E) R. Zhukov, a Deputy in the State As- how not to use drugs. When they go below 10 percent. sembly, in 1996 claimed that the Yamantau back into their communities, they be- (c) The following amendment may be of- Mountain facility belonged to ‘‘atomic sci- come forces in that community, and fered by Representative EVERETT of Alabama entists’’ and posed a serious environmental that is why we absolutely must give or his designee, shall be debatable for one hazard. them the best that money can buy as hour equally divided and controlled by Rep- (F) Russia’s 1997 federal budget lists the far as state of the art technology for resentative EVERETT or his designee and an project as a closed territory containing in- opponent, and shall be in order as though stallations of the Ministry of Defense, while weapons, if, God forbid, they ever printed as the last amendment in part 1 of First Deputy Defense Minister Audrey should be called into harm’s way. House Report 105–137: Kokoshin recently stated that the Ministry That is why I would now, Mr. Speak- Strike out sections 332 through 335 (page of Defense has nothing to do with the er, offer an amendment to the rule, 68, line 10 through page 77, line 21). project. which is at the desk. (d) The following amendment may be of- (7) Continued cooperation and progress on fered by Representative WELDON of Penn- AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MR. SOLOMON forging a new strategic relationship between sylvania or his designee and shall be in order Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, I offer the United States and Russia requires that as though printed as the penultimate amend- both nations make transparent to one an- an amendment. ment in part 2 of House Report 105–137: other major projects underway or plans The Clerk read as follows: At the end of title XII (page 379, after line under consideration that could alter the Amendment offered by Mr. SOLOMON: 19), insert the following new section: strategic balance sought in arms control Strike section 7 and insert in lieu thereof SEC. . SENSE OF CONGRESS ON NEED FOR RUS- agreements or otherwise be construed by the the following: SIAN OPENNESS ON THE YAMANTAU other side as an important new potential MOUNTAIN PROJECT. SEC. 7. House Resolutions 161, 162, and 165 threat. are laid on the table. (a) FINDINGS.—Congress finds as follows: (1) The United States and Russia have been (8) The United States has allowed senior SEC. 8. (a) Notwithstanding any other pro- Russian military and government officials to vision of this resolution, the amendment working in the post-Cold War era to estab- lish a new strategic relationship based on co- have access to key strategic facilities of the numbered 7 in part 1 of House Report 105–137 United States by providing tours of the may be offered in the following modified operation and openness between the two na- tions. North American Air Defense (NORAD) com- form, shall be debatable for 90 minutes mand at Cheyenne Mountain and the United equally divided and controlled by Represent- (2) This effort to establish a new strategic relationship has resulted in the conclusion States Strategic Command (STRACOM) ative DELLUMS of California or his designee headquarters in Omaha, Nebraska, among and an opponent, and shall otherwise be con- or agreement in principle on a number of far- reaching agreements, including START I, II, other sites, and by providing extensive brief- sidered as though printed in House Report ings on the operations of those facilities. 105–137: and III, a revision in the Conventional Forces in Europe Treaty, and a series of (b) SENSE OF CONGRESS.—In light of the At the end of title I (page 23, before line 7), findings in subsection (a), it is the sense of insert the following new sections: other agreements (such as the Comprehen- sive Test Ban Treaty and the Chemical Congress that— SEC. 123. B–2 AIRCRAFT PROGRAM. (1) the Russian government should provide Weapons Convention), designed to further re- (a) PROHIBITION OF ADDITIONAL AIRCRAFT.— to the United States a written explanation duce bilateral threats and limit the pro- None of the amount appropriated pursuant on the principal and secondary purposes of liferation of weapons of mass destruction. to the authorization of appropriations in sec- (3) These far-reaching agreement were the Yamantau Mountain project, specifically tion 103(1) may be obligated for advanced based on the understanding between the identifying the intended end user and ex- procurement of B–2 aircraft beyond the 21 United States and Russia that there would plaining the heavy investment in that deployable aircraft authorized by law before be a good faith effort on both sides to comply project; (2) the Russian government should allow a the date of the enactment of this Act. with the letter and spirit of the agreements, (b) PRODUCTION LINE CURTAILMENT.—None United States delegation, including officials that both sides would end their Cold War of the amount appropriated pursuant to the of the executive branch, Members of Con- competition, and that neither side would authorization of appropriations in section gress, and United States experts on under- seek to gain unilateral strategic advantage 103(1) may be obligated for reestablishment ground facilities, to have full access to the over the other. of the production line for B–2 aircraft. The (4) Reports indicate that Russia has been Yamantau Mountain project to inspect the Secretary of the Air Force may use up to pursuing construction of a massive under- facility and all rail-served buildings in the $21,800,000 of funds available for the B–2 air- ground facility of unknown purpose at southern and northern settlements located craft program for curtailment of the B–2 pro- Yamantau Mountain and the city of near Yamantau; and duction line. Mezhgorye (formerly the settlements of (3) the Russian government should direct (c) FUNDING REDUCTION.—The amount pro- Beloretsk–15 and Beloretsk–16) that is de- senior officials responsible for the Yamantau vided in section 103(1) for procurement of air- signed to survive a nuclear war and appears Mountain project to explain to such a United craft for the Air Force is hereby reduced by to exceed reasonable defense requirements. States delegation the purpose and oper- $331,200,000. (5) The Yamantau Mountain project does ational concept of all completed and planned SEC. 124. INCREASE IN AMOUNT FOR GUARD AND not appear to be consistent with the lower- underground facilities at Yamantau Moun- RESERVE EQUIPMENT. ing of strategic threats, openness, and co- tain in sufficient detail (including through The amount provided in section 105 for pro- operation that is the basis of the post-Cold the use of drawings and diagrams) to support curement of equipment for the reserve com- War strategic partnership between the Unit- a high-confidence judgment by the United ponents is hereby increased by $331,200,000. ed States and Russia. States delegation that the design is consist- (b) Notwithstanding any other provision of (6) Russia appears to have engaged in a ent with the official explanations. this resolution, the amendment numbered 15 campaign to deliberately conceal and mis- (e) The following amendment may be of- in part 2 of House Report 105–137 may be of- lead the United States about the purpose of fered by Representative TRAFICANT of Ohio fered in the following modified form, shall be the Yamantau Mountain project, as shown or his designee and shall be in order as debatable for 20 minutes equally divided and by the following: though printed as the last amendment in controlled by Representative FRANK of Mas- (A) General and Bashkortostan, People’s part 2 of House Report 105–137: sachusetts or his designee and an opponent, Deputy Leonid Akimovich Tsirkunov, com- At the end of subtitle C of title X (page 326, and shall otherwise be considered as though mandant of Beloretsk–15 and Beloretsk–16, after line 6), insert the following new sec- printed in House Report 105–137: stated in 1991 and 1992 that the purpose of tion: At the end of title XII (page 379, after line the construction there was to build a mining SEC. 1032. ASSIGNMENT OF DEPARTMENT OF DE- 19), insert the following new section: and ore-processing complex, but later FENSE PERSONNEL TO ASSIST IMMI- SEC.1205. LIMITATION ON PAYMENTS FOR COST claimed that it was an underground ware- GRATION AND NATURALIZATION SERVICE AND CUSTOMS SERVICE. OF NATO EXPANSION. house for food and clothing. (a) ASSIGNMENT AUTHORITY OF SECRETARY (a) The amount spent by the United States (B) M.Z. Shakiorov, a former communist OF DEFENSE.—Chapter 18 of title 10, United as its share of the total cost to North Atlan- official in the region, alleged in 1992 that the States Code, is amended by inserting after tic Treaty Organization member nations of Yamantau Mountain facility was to become section 374 the following new section: the admission of new member nations to the a shelter for the Russian national leadership North American Treaty Organization may in case of nulcear war. ‘‘§ 374a. Assignment of personnel to assist not exceed 10 percent of the cost of expan- (C) Sources of the Segodnya newspaper in border patrol and control sion or a total of $2,000,000,000, whichever is 1996 claimed that the Yamantau Mountain ‘‘(a) ASSIGNMENT AUTHORIZED.—The Sec- less, for fiscal years 1998 through 2010. project was associated with the so-called retary of Defense may assign up to 10,000 De- (b) If at any time during the period speci- ‘‘Dead Hand’’ nuclear retaliatory command partment of Defense personnel at any one fied in subsection (a), the United States’ and control system for strategic missiles. time to assist— H3944 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE June 19, 1997 ‘‘(1) the Immigration and Naturalization its government is a threat to the national secu- The vote was taken by electronic de- Service is preventing the entry of terrorists, rity of the United States. vice, and there were—yeas 329, nays 94, drug traffickers, and illegal aliens into the The amendment maintained the integrity of not voting 11, as follows: United States; and the base realignment and closure process by ‘‘(2) the United States Customs Service in [Roll No. 212] the inspection of cargo, vehicles, and aircraft allowing the decisions for reuse to remain in at points of entry into the United States. the control of the local government. It was not YEAS—329 ‘‘(b) REQUEST FOR ASSIGNMENT.—The as- made in order and I urge my colleagues to op- Abercrombie Everett Lewis (KY) signment of Department of Defense person- pose the ruleÐand I yield back the balance of Ackerman Farr Linder nel under subsection (a) may only occur— my time. Allen Fattah Livingston ‘‘(1) at the request of the Attorney Gen- Mr. MATSUI. Mr. Speaker, I rise in support Andrews Fawell LoBiondo eral, in the case of an assignment to the Im- of the Solomon amendment to this rule, House Archer Fazio Lofgren Armey Flake Lowey migration and Naturalization Service; and Resolution 169. ‘‘(2) at the request of the Secretary of the Baesler Foglietta Luther I am outraged and astonished that the rule Baker Foley Maloney (CT) Treasury, in the case of an assignment to the passed by the committee would deny the Baldacci Ford Maloney (NY) United States Customs Service.’’. House an opportunity to speak about the criti- Ballenger Fox Manton ‘‘(c) REIMBURSEMENT REQUIREMENT.—Sec- Barcia Frank (MA) Manzullo tion 377 of this title shall apply in the case cal issue of depot maintenance and repair. Barr Franks (NJ) Markey of Department of Defense personnel assigned In its current form, H.R. 1119 contains provi- Barrett (NE) Frelinghuysen Martinez under subsection (a).’’. sions that would severely impact the ability of Barrett (WI) Frost Mascara (b) CLERICAL AMENDMENT.—The table of the Department of Defense to conduct com- Barton Furse Matsui sections at the beginning of such chapter is Bass Gallegly McCarthy (MO) petitions for its depot maintenance and repair Bateman Ganske McCollum amended by inserting after the item relating work. The Air Force has designed a model Becerra Gejdenson McCrery to section 374 the following new item: competitive process for repair and mainte- Bentsen Gephardt McDade ‘‘374a. Assignment of personnel to assist bor- nance activities now performed at McClellan Bereuter Gilchrest McDermott der patrol and control’’. Berman Gillmor McGovern and Kelly Air Force bases. Through these Berry Gilman McHale SEC. 9. Notwithstanding section 2(e) of this competitions, the Air Force will be able to ac- Blagojevich Gonzalez McInnis resolution, the additional period of general curately determine whether public depots or Bliley Goode McIntosh debate on the subject of United States forces Blumenauer Goodlatte McKinney in Bosnia shall precede the offering of private contractors can provide the best value Boehlert Gordon McNulty amendments numbered 8 and 9 in part 1 of to the taxpayer in the performance of this Boehner Goss Meehan the report of the Committee on Rules rather work. Bonilla Graham Meek than the amendments numbered 1 and 2 in Yet a component of this bill would prevent Bonior Granger Menendez part 1 of the report. these competitions from moving forward. That Bono Greenwood Metcalf Borski Gutierrez Mica Mr. SOLOMON (during the reading). proposal has implications far beyond the issue Boswell Hall (OH) Millender- Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent of whether Air Force maintenance work is per- Boucher Hall (TX) McDonald formed in Sacramento, Texas, Utah, or else- Boyd Hamilton Minge that the amendment be considered as Brady Harman Mink read and printed in the RECORD. where in the Nation. Brown (CA) Hastert Moakley The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Through these anticompetition provisions, Brown (OH) Hastings (WA) Molinari GILCHREST). Is there objection to the this bill would insert the Congress for the first Bryant Hayworth Mollohan request of the gentleman from New time into the Pentagon's implementation of a Burton Hefner Moran (VA) base realignment and closure commission de- Buyer Herger Morella York? Callahan Hill Murtha There was no objection. cision. Further, it would put the Congress in Calvert Hilleary Nadler Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, this the position of dictating to the Pentagon how Camp Hilliard Neal to manage its maintenance and repair activi- Campbell Hinchey Nethercutt amendment is the exact unanimous Capps Hinojosa Neumann consent request that I propounded ties, regardless of what is sound security or Cardin Hobson Northup early on in the beginning of this de- fiscal policy. Carson Hoekstra Nussle bate. This amendment, which has been That is why my colleagues, Representatives Castle Holden Oberstar EVERETT, SABO, KLUG and FAZIO have sought Chabot Hooley Obey approved by the other side of the aisle, Clay Horn Olver I would say to the gentleman from an amendment to strike the anticompetition Clayton Houghton Ortiz Texas [Mr. FROST], is acceptable to provisions from the bill. Yet House Resolution Clement Hoyer Owens both sides. 169 would not allow the House to consider Clyburn Hulshof Oxley Coble Hutchinson Packard Ms. MILLENDER-MCDONALD. Mr. Speaker, that important amendment. The depot maintenance and repair proposal Combest Hyde Pallone I rise in opposition to the rule. I offered an Conyers Inglis Parker amendment to the Rules Committee yesterday in this bill represents a significant, and abso- Cooksey Jackson (IL) Pascrell lutely unwise, new direction in defense policy. Costello Jackson-Lee Pastor and like many of my colleagues did not have Coyne (TX) Paul my amendment made in order. The chairman The House ought to have an opportunity to debate this matter. We must ensure that the Cramer Jenkins Paxon of the committee was present when I testified Crane John Payne and said that he both read and understood the Solomon amendment to the rule is approved Crapo Johnson (WI) Pelosi Cummings Johnson, E. B. Peterson (MN) nature of my amendment. If he understood the so that this important debate can occur. I urge my colleagues to support the Solomon amend- Davis (IL) Johnson, Sam Peterson (PA) nature of my amendment then it only stands to Davis (VA) Kanjorski Petri reason that it would have been made in order. ment and to oppose the rule if the amendment DeFazio Kaptur Pickett My amendment was simple. It would have does not pass. Delahunt Kasich Pitts Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, I move DeLauro Kelly Porter simply clarified the vague and blanket terms the previous question on the amend- DeLay Kennedy (MA) Portman currently found in section 6822 of the existing Dellums Kennedy (RI) Poshard ment and on the resolution. bill. It would have stricken the term ``prohibited Diaz-Balart Kennelly Price (NC) The previous question was ordered. Dickey Kildee Pryce (OH) state-owned shipping companies and inserted The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Dicks Kilpatrick Quinn ``prohibited state-owned companies.'' The question is on the amendment offered Dingell Kim Radanovich amendment further defined and clarified the by the gentleman from New York [Mr. Dixon Kind (WI) Rahall term ``prohibited state-owned companies'' as a Doggett Kleczka Ramstad SOLOMON]. Dooley Klug Rangel corporation, partnership, or other entity that is The question was taken; and the Doolittle Knollenberg Riggs owned or controlled by a foreign government Speaker pro tempore announced that Doyle Kolbe Rivers or foreign state as defined in section 1603 of Dreier Kucinich Rodriguez the ayes appeared to have it. Duncan LaFalce Rogan title 28, United States CodeÐThe Foreign Mr. RILEY. Mr. Speaker, I object to Dunn LaHood Rohrabacher Sovereign Immunities Act. the vote on the ground that a quorum Edwards Lampson Ros-Lehtinen The amendment would have further re- is not present and make the point of Ehlers Lantos Rothman moved the blanket prohibition against convey- Ehrlich Latham Roukema order that a quorum is not present. Emerson LaTourette Roybal-Allard ance of Department of Defense owned prop- The SPEAKER pro tempore. Evi- Engel Lazio Rush erties to all foreign or state owned companies dently a quorum is not present. Ensign Leach Sabo by requiring the President to certify that the The Sergeant at Arms will notify ab- Eshoo Levin Sanchez prohibited foreign or state-owned company or sent Members. Etheridge Lewis (GA) Sanders June 19, 1997 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H3945 Sandlin Snyder Upton [Roll No.213] Spratt Thornberry Waxman Sanford Solomon Velazquez Stabenow Thune Weldon (FL) Sawyer Spence Vento AYES—322 Stark Tierney Weldon (PA) Saxton Spratt Visclosky Stenholm Torres Wexler Abercrombie Frelinghuysen McHugh Schaefer, Dan Stabenow Wamp Strickland Traficant Weygand Ackerman Frost McInnis Schumer Stark Waters Stump Turner Wicker Allen Gallegly McIntosh Scott Stenholm Watt (NC) Stupak Upton Wise Andrews Ganske McKinney Serrano Strickland Waxman Tanner Vela´ zquez Wolf Archer Gejdenson McNulty Sessions Stump Weldon (PA) Tauscher Visclosky Woolsey Armey Gekas Meehan Shays Stupak Wexler Tauzin Walsh Young (FL) Baker Gephardt Meek Sherman Tanner Weygand Taylor (NC) Wamp Baldacci Gilchrest Menendez Shuster Tauscher White Thomas Watt (NC) Ballenger Gillmor Sisisky Taylor (NC) Wicker Metcalf Skaggs Thompson Wise Barcia Gilman Mica NOES—101 Barr Gonzalez Miller (FL) Skeen Thornberry Wolf Aderholt Fowler Pallone Barrett (NE) Goode Minge Skelton Thune Woolsey Bachus Furse Payne Barton Goodlatte Mink Slaughter Tierney Wynn Baesler Gibbons Pickett Bass Gordon Moakley Smith (OR) Torres Yates Barrett (WI) Goodling Rangel Bateman Goss Molinari Smith (TX) Towns Young (FL) Bartlett Green Riley Becerra Graham Mollohan Smith, Adam Traficant Bishop Hall (TX) Roemer Bentsen Granger Morella Smith, Linda Turner Blumenauer Hansen Rohrabacher Bereuter Greenwood Murtha Blunt Hastings (FL) Rush Berman Gutierrez NAYS—94 Neal Brown (FL) Hefner Salmon Berry Gutknecht Nethercutt Aderholt Gibbons Riley Cannon Hilliard Sanders Bilbray Hall (OH) Neumann Bachus Goodling Roemer Cardin Hostettler Sandlin Bilirakis Hamilton Ney Bartlett Green Rogers Chambliss Hoyer Sensenbrenner Blagojevich Harman Northup Bilbray Gutknecht Royce Chenoweth Jackson-Lee Shaw Bliley Hastert Nussle Bilirakis Hansen Ryun Christensen (TX) Shimkus Boehlert Hastings (WA) Oberstar Bishop Hastings (FL) Salmon Clay Johnson (CT) Sisisky Boehner Hayworth Obey Blunt Hefley Scarborough Clayton Jones Snowbarger Bonilla Hefley Olver Brown (FL) Hostettler Schaffer, Bob Clyburn Klug Stearns Bonior Herger Owens Bunning Hunter Sensenbrenner Coburn Largent Sununu Bono Hill Oxley Burr Jefferson Shadegg Collins Lewis (GA) Talent Borski Hilleary Packard Canady Johnson (CT) Shaw Condit Lofgren Taylor (MS) Boswell Hinchey Pappas Cannon Jones Shimkus Conyers Lucas Thompson Boucher Hinojosa Parker Chambliss King (NY) Smith (MI) Cook Maloney (NY) Thurman Boyd Hobson Pascrell Chenoweth Kingston Smith (NJ) Cooksey Markey Tiahrt Brady Hoekstra Pastor Christensen Klink Snowbarger Cox McCarthy (NY) Towns Brown (CA) Holden Paul Coburn Largent Souder Crapo McDermott Vento Brown (OH) Hooley Paxon Collins Lewis (CA) Stearns Davis (FL) McIntyre Waters Bryant Horn Pease Condit Lucas Sununu Davis (IL) McKeon Watkins Bunning Houghton Pelosi Cook McCarthy (NY) Talent Deal Millender- Watts (OK) Burr Hulshof Peterson (MN) Cox McHugh Tauzin DeFazio McDonald Weller Burton Hunter Peterson (PA) Cubin McIntyre Taylor (MS) Deutsch Moran (KS) White Buyer Hutchinson Petri Cunningham McKeon Thomas Dingell Moran (VA) Wynn Callahan Hyde Pickering Danner Miller (FL) Thurman Etheridge Myrick Yates Calvert Inglis Pitts Davis (FL) Moran (KS) Tiahrt Evans Nadler Young (AK) Camp Jackson (IL) Porter Deal Myrick Walsh Filner Norwood Campbell Jefferson Portman Deutsch Ney Watkins Forbes Ortiz Canady Jenkins Poshard Evans Norwood Watts (OK) Capps John Price (NC) Ewing Pappas Weldon (FL) NOT VOTING—11 Carson Johnson (WI) Pryce (OH) Filner Pease Weller DeGette Lipinski Schiff Castle Johnson, E.B. Quinn Forbes Pickering Young (AK) English Miller (CA) Stokes Chabot Johnson, Sam Radanovich Fowler Redmond Foglietta Pombo Whitfield Clement Kanjorski Rahall Gekas Regula Istook Pomeroy Coble Kaptur Ramstad NOT VOTING—11 Combest Kasich Redmond b 1421 Costello Kelly Regula DeGette Miller (CA) Schiff Coyne Kennedy (MA) Reyes Ms. MILLENDER-MCDONALD, Mr. English Pombo Stokes Cramer Kennedy (RI) Riggs HALL of Texas and Mr. SISISKY Istook Pomeroy Whitfield Crane Kennelly Rivers Lipinski Reyes Cubin Kildee Rodriguez changed their vote from ‘‘aye’’ to ‘‘no.’’ Cummings Kilpatrick Rogan So the resolution, as amended, was Cunningham Kim Rogers b 1402 agreed to. Danner Kind (WI) Ros-Lehtinen The result of the vote was announced Davis (VA) King (NY) Rothman Mr. GREEN, Mr. LARGENT, Mrs. Delahunt Kingston Roukema as above recorded. CHENOWETH, Mr. WELDON of Flor- DeLauro Kleczka Roybal-Allard A motion to reconsider was laid on ida, and Mr. SHADEGG changed their DeLay Klink Royce the table. vote from ‘‘yea’’ to ‘‘nay.’’ Dellums Knollenberg Ryun Diaz-Balart Kolbe Sabo The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Mr. LINDER, Mrs. CLAYTON, Mrs. Dickey Kucinich Sanchez GILCHREST). Pursuant to House Resolu- MEEK of Florida, Ms. EDDIE BER- Dicks LaFalce Sanford tion 169, House Resolutions 161, 162 and NICE JOHNSON of Texas, and Messrs. Dixon LaHood Sawyer 165 are laid on the table. Doggett Lampson Saxton KOLBE, FOLEY, THOMPSON, and Dooley Lantos Scarborough f BAESLER changed their vote from Doolittle Latham Schaefer, Dan ‘‘nay’’ to ‘‘yea.’’ Doyle LaTourette Schaffer, Bob GENERAL LEAVE Dreier Lazio Schumer So the amendment was agreed to. Duncan Leach Scott Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, I ask The result of the vote was announced Dunn Levin Serrano unanimous consent that all Members as above recorded. Edwards Lewis (CA) Sessions may have 5 legislative days within Ehlers Lewis (KY) Shadegg which to revise and extend their re- The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Ehrlich Linder Shays GILCHREST). The question is on the res- Emerson Livingston Sherman marks and include extraneous material olution, as amended. Engel LoBiondo Shuster on H.R. 169, the resolution just adopt- Ensign Lowey Skaggs ed. The question was taken; and the Eshoo Luther Skeen Speaker pro tempore announced that Everett Maloney (CT) Skelton The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there the ayes appeared to have it. Ewing Manton Slaughter objection to the request of the gen- Farr Manzullo Smith (MI) tleman from New York? RECORDED VOTE Fattah Martinez Smith (NJ) There was no objection. Mrs. FOWLER. Mr. Speaker, I de- Fawell Mascara Smith (OR) Fazio Matsui Smith (TX) f mand a recorded vote. Flake McCarthy (MO) Smith, Adam A recorded vote was ordered. Foley McCollum Smith, Linda NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZA- The vote was taken by electronic de- Ford McCrery Snyder TION ACT FOR FISCAL YEAR 1998 Fox McDade Solomon vice, and there were—ayes 322, noes 101, Frank (MA) McGovern Souder The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- not voting 11, as follows: Franks (NJ) McHale Spence ant to House Resolution 169 and rule