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This Show Is Brought to You by Audible. Audible Is the World's Leading Pr This show is brought to you by Audible. Audible is the world’s leading provider of audio books, with over 150,000 titles to choose from. They literally have everything. Now, you can get one free audio book just by going to Audiblepodcast.com/rupaul. That’s right. You get one free audio book and a 30 day free trial at Audiblepodcast.com/rupaul. Now go over there and support them, because they support us. RUPAUL: Hello, this is RuPaul and Michelle Visage, and this is What’s the Tee? – our funny, funny, fabulous podcast that we had to do. We had to do this. MICHELLE: And informative. RUPAUL: It’s informative. You will get takeaway, you will get life advice> Plus you’ll be entertained by our wackiness. MICHELLE: Our witty banter. RUPAUL: Our witty banter. MICHELLE: We’ve been friend for – we’ve been “friend”… RUPAUL: We been friend – she been my friend – no, actually, first she was my play cousin. MICHELLE: ’Den I was a friend. “We been friend” for a long time, 20 plus years, and through those years, I think we’ve experienced a lot, up and down and around, and I think that there’s a lot of knowledge here between the both of our heads to give out to everybody. We want you to be let in on our friendship. RUPAUL: Obviously, we’re entertained by it, but in between breaks on the TV show, RuPaul’s Drag Race, we’re talking, and we have guest stars who are on, and they’re fascinated by our banter. Because you know, we finish each other’s sentences and we’re just that – we’re those kids. So that’s why we’re doing the podcast, and I’m sure you will enjoy it. So keep joining us every other week, and I’m sure you’ll be entertained and… MICHELLE: Happy. Yeah, you can take it home, you can share it with your friends, tell everybody about it, but one thing is for sure: you will not be bored. RUPAUL: That’s right. MICHELLE: You’ll love it, you’ll be in on it, and thank you so much for joining us. RUPAUL: And don’t forget to subscribe on iTunes. MICHELLE: It’s easy; push the button. RUPAUL: Yeah! Now Michelle, we want to start this podcast off with RuPaul’s Drag Race information. MICHELLE: Yes, the insiders. RUPAUL: Because right now, we’re about to audition Season 7 girls. MICHELLE: Can you believe it? RUPAUL: It’s crazy. It really is crazy. But what’s interesting about the process of auditioning it – I know you’ve done auditions yourself in your life, in show business – is that everybody does the exact same thing. MICHELLE: Not knowing, by the way. This queen doesn’t know this queen, but the audition tapes are identical. It’s pretty amazing. RUPAUL: It’s like when people – they say that the cavemen discovered fire at the same time. It’s that sort of – what do they call it? Serendipitous so-and-so. MICHELLE: Let’s go with that. RUPAUL: Let’s go with that. But every queen ends up doing an audition that they think I want them to do, rather than doing themselves. MICHELLE: And then they come to me and they say, “Can you help me? What do you think I should do for this audition tape?” What they don’t understand – and kids, hear this now – I have nothing, literally zero – yes, Ru is my best friend and I have his ear, but I do not have anything to do with the audition process. So what I tell the kids is “Do what they tell you to do,” but the most important thing – and tell me if I’m wrong with any of this; tell me if I’m giving ill advice – the most important thing they can do is be true to who they are, and make that come out in their video. And show us that you’re human. RUPAUL: Right. Right, because what people don’t understand is that the show and the cast is an ensemble, and certain people are doing almost the same energy, and if one person does that exact same energy better than the other… MICHELLE: You’re going to go with that one. RUPAUL: We’re going to go with that one. But the truth is, some people have a certain energy to them that may not be good for this season, but will be better for next season. MICHELLE: And you do remember. RUPAUL: And I will remember. Because Alaska, she auditioned – MICHELLE: Five times. RUPAUL: Five times. MICHELLE: Every single one. And if you look at the casting special, you can find it – if it’s not on Logo, it’s on YouTube. It’s somewhere. You can find it. You will see baby Alaska in the casting special that you did; you can’t even see her in there. She is nowhere near the monster that she’s created for Season 5. Seriously. RUPAUL: In fact, what’s funny about that is because she couldn’t have done the show before Sharon Needles, and I’ve got to tell you why: Sharon Needles is doing what we call gender f-word. Obviously, we can cuss on this thing, but I’m not going to. MICHELLE: Always a lady. RUPAUL: Always a lady. It’s called “gender f-word,” and that’s a genre of drag that is as old as Methuselah. But we felt on the show that it wasn’t time to introduce the public to it until we eased them into… MICHELLE: Mainstream drag. RUPAUL: Exactly. MICHELLE: Yeah, yeah, yeah. RUPAUL: So by the time Sharon Needles came along, which was season what? MICHELLE: Four. RUPAUL: Season 4, she was such a personality – MICHELLE: Yes, Grandma. RUPAUL: She was such a likable personality, and so smart, that she could introduce the public to this style of drag without alienating people. MICHELLE: Because of the vulnerability factor. RUPAUL: Yes. MICHELLE: And the kids don’t get it. What we’re saying, if that word is too big for y’all – and I’m not trying to be shady – but if you’re not understanding what that means, that means we need to see the human side of you. We know that you’re a fierce queen, we know that you can death drop till your leg breaks like Shangela. But the bottom line is, if we don’t know who you are as a person – I know you. I know what you want. If you’re not going to see them, really see them, you’re not going to have any interest. RUPAUL: That’s right. You can’t root for someone that you don’t really fall in love with and you don’t see that vulnerability. Because in the interviews – I say this all the time- at its core, RuPaul’s Drag Race is about the tenacity of the human spirit and how everybody wants to be seen, they want to be heard, they want to be recognized. So all of these gorgeous, beautiful creatures on the show – MICHELLE: And you all are. RUPAUL: And they all are. They were these little disenfranchised boys from suburbs and small towns around the United States who have decided, “You know what? I’m going to do my thing no matter what. I’m going to be who I am in a masculine-dominated culture. I’m going to work with the feminine. I’m going to do it.” MICHELLE: And do it. RUPAUL: And do it well. So that’s what the show’s about. If the people in the auditions can’t show that vulnerability, or they’re copying or trying to be something that they think I want from them, it doesn’t read. It’s not true. MICHELLE: It’s not true. And the funny thing is, they don’t get that – and it’s a very big concept, so I understand why they don’t get it. But I will tell you guys a little story. Ru and I went to lunch one time at one of our favorite cheat meal restaurants called Mo’s in Burbank. RUPAUL: Oh, I love Mo’s. MICHELLE: Yes, we love their pasta. RUPAUL: It’s next to Bob’s Big Boy down in Toluca Lake. MICHELLE: And if you go, you get the pesto farfalle. RUPAUL: It’s the farfalle. It’s the pesto – I get it with chicken. It’s a bowtie chicken. It’s a bowtie pasta with chicken… MICHELLE: Sundried tomatoes. RUPAUL: Sundried tomatoes… MICHELLE: And parmesan toast. RUPAUL: And parmesan toast. Oh my God, the parmesan toast. It’s so delicious. My mouth is watering right now. MICHELLE: We get extra parmesan toast, but don’t tell anybody. RUPAUL: Don’t tell anybody. MICHELLE: It’s obvious in my tits this season. With that said, we had a waiter once – and I don’t know if you remember this moment, but we were sitting there, and I was amazed because this waiter – the server came over and was just so harried and in a rush, and the place wasn’t that crowded. But Ru and I were having our moment, as we always do. We don’t see each other every day, you guys, but when we do, to me, it’s glorious every time we’re together. I leave always feeling refreshed, always – honest to God.
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