Family Group Sheet for John Belcher
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Family Group Sheet for John Belcher Husband: John Belcher Birth: Abt. 1620 in Unknown Marriage: 19 May 1651 in East Lockinge, Berkshire, England Death: Aft. 1653 in Unknown Father: Mother: Wife: Mary Acers Birth: Abt. 1626 in Unknown Death: Aft. 1653 in Unknown Father: Mother: Children: 1 Name: Joseph Belcher M Birth: Abt. 1653 in Unknown Marriage: 20 May 1678 in North Hinksey, Berkshire, England Death: Abt. 1729 in Kingston Bagpuize, Berkshire, England Burial: 18 Aug 1729 in Kingston Bagpuize, Berkshire, England Spouse: Dorothy Holder Notes: John Belcher This might be his death record - Name: John Belcher Gender: Male Burial Date: 20 Sep 1688 Burial Place: Berkshire, England The place given on the result page is Tubney Fact Notes for John Belcher Name: Forename form Joseph's pobable baptism record. Death: There is this record from Ancestry, which is not conclusive - Name: John Belcher Gender:Male Burial Date: 20 Sep 1688 Burial Place: Berkshire, England FHL Film Number: 1279458 The age at death would have been about 68 Marriage: This is not conclusive but fits with Joseph's baptism date - Fact Notes for Mary Acers Birth: There is this England and Wales Christening Record - Name: John Belcher Gender: Male Christening Date: 5 Jun 1616 Christening Place: Childrey, Berkshire, England Father's Name: Richard Belcher Mother's name: Elizabeth Joseph Belcher The Belcher line is secure up to and including Joseph Belcher and Dorothie Holder. There are two interesting birth entries on the Family Search site - ThereNotes: are (con't) two interesting birth entries on the Family Search site - Joseph Belcher baptised on 7 Jul 1653 in West Hanney by John Belcher and Dorrithie Alder baptised on 25 Feb 1635 in Denchworth by Thomas and Elizabeth. Denchworth and West Hanney are only about two miles apart and they are about five miles south of Kingston Bagpuize. At the time of Joseph and Dorothy's marriage on 20 May 1678, the West Hanney Joseph would have been about 24 years old. On 19 May 1651, ie two years before the baptism of the West Hanney Joseph, the Family Search site states that a John Belcher married a Mary Acers in East Lockinge, which is about four miles from West Hanney. I would say that it is a fair bet that Joseph's parents were John Belcher and Mary Acers. Dorothy's surname of Alder is slightly different from Holder, but could be confused. At the time of Joseph and Dorothy's marriage on 20 May 1678, the 'West Hanney' Joseph would have been about 24 years old, but the 'Denchworth Dorothie' would have been about 45 years old and, furthermore, she would have been about 57 years of age at the birth of their last child, which seems pretty unlikely. However, there is the possibility that the baptism date is incorrect, and if the last two digits are transposed it gives the same year as for Joseph. Recently, though, an England, Select Marriages Record has come to light on Ancestry.co.uk for a Dorothie Alder's marriage on 14 October 1677 in West Challow to a Richard Bonner. West Challow is about two miles from Denchworth. The 'Denchworth Dorothie' would have been about 42 years old at that time. There is an England, Select Births and Christening Record on Ancestry.co.uk for the baptism of a Richard Bonner in Bright-Walton (aka Brightwalton, or Brickleton) on 11 September 1654 by Richard and Jane Bonner. Bright-Walton is about six miles from West Challow. This Richard Bonner would have been about 23 years old at that time of the marriage, ie about 19 year younger than 'Denchworth Dorothie'. There are five children shown on Family Search baptised by Richard and Dorothy Bonner in Bright-Waltham, from 1679 to 1694. However, the 'Denchworth Dorothie' would have been 59 at the time of the last baptism. To complicate matters further, in Family Search there is a marriage of a Dorothy Alder to William Holdway on 21 November 1659 in Wantage , which is about 3 miles from Denchworth. 'Denchworth Dorothie' would have been about 24, which is much more likely than the other marriages. It is impossible to draw any firm conclusions from the information we have, but I would guess that 'Denchworth Dorothie' is not our ancestor. Relationship Notes for Joseph Belcher and Dorothy Holder Marriage record of North Hinksey has name as Holder Fact Notes for Joseph Belcher Burial: Age at burial not shown..