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Tobias Saunders, From Amersham, , Don’t Shortcut Your Made His Mark on Westerly, Family Research; The following article, dated 21 April of the Puritan faith, apparently, as they 2008, was submitted by Paul A. continually ran afoul of the Puritan laws Utilize All Tools Saunders, 1600 Leeland Way, Knoxville, of Massachusetts, mostly involving Robert Tilman, CEO of TN 37919-2604, . swearing or drink. One of these cases RootsWeb, has said, “Only a small featured Tobias in a rather wild and rib- fraction of genealogy-related infor- of Westerly, R.I. ald incident involving sexually tainted mation is on the Web.” by Paul A. Saunders horseplay with two married women at the home of Lawrence Turner, where he Computers have done a fantastic My immigrant ancestor, Tobias 7 job of making more genealogy mate- Saunders, was an interesting and color- was a boarder. One of the participants rial available to researchers and con- ful man. I am not absolutely certain as in this episode was Turner’s wife, who necting even more people than we to when and where he was born, started things off by dumping a pail of would have ever thought possible. although at one time I believed him to water on Tobias from her kitchen win- RootsWeb and Ancestry.com are be the Tobias Saunders born in dow. However, this did not seem to probably the best places on the Web Amersham, have adversely affect- to get help, or receive help. I have Buckinghamshire, ed his relationship heard from individuals who were England in 1629/30.1 with Lawrence Turner, related to me on two different lines [See the April 2001 who was also a worker for which I had nearly given up issue of Sanders at Hammersmith and hope. They saw my posting on the Siftings for an article later moved with RootsWeb Surname list that had on the Saunders at Tobias to the new been there several years. Amersham.] He first colony of Rhode However, you can’t just sit at that appears in American Island. It is thus iron- computer and expect to do all your records as a member of ic that Tobias later genealogy work. I am afraid that we the militia in Taunton, became a respected are getting away from some of the Massachusetts, in official in his future traditional tasks related to sound August of 16432 and is state. family research. Subscribers to sur- thought to have been Dr. John Clarke, his name newsletters are also declining. 70 to 75 years old future wife’s uncle, Newsletters are still a very good when he died in had come to in place to find other researchers and Westerly, Rhode Island, 1637 and began information not available elsewhere. in July or Aug. 1695.3 preaching as a Baptist You need to get out to those This would make his A statue of Chief , a sachem minister in that libraries, court houses, cemeteries, birth between 1620 of the Niatis tribe, in Watch Hill, R.I. Puritan state. He was and Family History Centers. You and 1625 and he had later forced out of still need to write letters to many to have been at least 16 years old in Massachusetts and by 1638 had moved relatives and friends who may have 1643 to be in the militia. One source to Aquidneck, an island in the information you need. gives his arrival in New England as (renamed Rhode Use all the tools you can. The 1638,4 but as yet I have been unable to Island in 1644). The next year, he computer is a great one! And it is confirm that. moved to Newport and established the one of the best tools that you can He is known to have been employed first Baptist church there. By 1643, have to help write those letters. as a worker at Hammersmith, the had obtained a grant In our busy, busy world we all Saugus Ironworks in Saugus, from the Earl of Warwick to form the want shortcuts and time savers. Massachusetts (now a National Park), a “Colony of Providence Plantations in Don’t shortcut your family research venture begun by John Winthrop Jr., son Narragansett Bay in New England” by looking for the easy way out. of the Governor of Massachusetts.5 In which was open to all religious faiths. Keep up the traditional research. 1649 and 1650 Tobias appeared as a wit- There were continuing disputes with ness in two cases at Salem Court6 Massachusetts over this territory, so in Don Schaefer, editor involving some of the Hammersmith 1651 Clarke went to England with ironworkers. They were not members (Continued on page two) SANDERSSiftings No. 54 Jul/2008 Page 2 Can You Help Bill Browder Get Past His Brick Tobias Saunders Wall and Learn More About Lemuel Saunders? (Continued from page one) Roger Williams to obtain a new charter This was received from long-time Monthly Meeting, Baltimore County, for Rhode Island, where he remained for subscriber Bill Browder, 221 Steadman Maryland, “Richard Belt, son of John 12 years negotiating slowly as this was Road, Selmer, TN 38375. Belt, of Gunpowder in Baltimore County during the Commonwealth period, I have been a subscriber to Sanders married Keturah Price, daughter of John before Charles II was restored to the Siftings for several years now and have Price of Gunpowder in Baltimore County throne 29 May 1660. Williams had seen numerous queries on various on 24th day of first month called January returned to the colony in 1654 and it Saunders/Sanders lines from most of the 1760.” Among those in attendance was wasn’t until 9 July 1663 that Clarke’s U.S. and, I think, some foreign coun- a Lemuel Saunders. new charter was finally signed by the tries. In all those queries I have never Deer Creek Monthly Meeting, Harford king, establishing a “State where no con- found anything that proved any part of County, Maryland: “On third day of third straint could ever be put upon the my line. It seems as if there are hun- month, 1761 Thomas Saunders, son of human conscience and no limit to free- dreds of different lines. Surely some of Edward, hath by keeping unprofitable dom of human thought.” There could them join somewhere in the distant past. company been induced to dance.” (note: be no Royal veto of this charter. In light of that I want to lay out a theory Baltimore County and Harford County When the Saugus ironworks venture on my line and invite anyone to prove or are adjoining counties in Maryland) began to fail in the early 1650s, Tobias disprove any part of it, with theory being Was the above Thomas Saunders, son Saunders and Lawrence Turner relocated a formulation of underlying principles of of Edward, the same Thomas Saunders, to Newport, where they bought land certain observed phenomena which has son of Edward, who married Judith in together from William Jeffrey on 22 been verified to some degree. 1742, sold land in 1755 and moved to March 1653/4.8 The next year Tobias This first part is taken from records Maryland? Saunders was listed as a free man of 9 found in the book Early Settlers of North Was the Lemuel Saunders who Newport , which meant that he owned Alabama by James Edmond Saunders attended the Price/Belt wedding in land and could vote. In 1657 he and (1806-1899) but contains no proof, in Baltimore County, Maryland the same Tu rner joined with others to buy itself, connecting it to my line. Lemuel Saunders who witnessed a deed Conanicut Island (where Jamestown is 10 Edward Saunders came to the Colony in Mecklenburg County, North Carolina now located). of Virginia in 1635 on the ship “Safety” in 1767? This section of North Carolina On 29 June 1660 Tobias joined a along with his sons Thomas (13) and later became Lincoln County. Lemuel company of 76 men to buy Misquamicut Edward (9). Edward who was 9 in 1635 Saunders died there in 1795 (without a (includes present-day Westerly, later married Mary who was the widow will) and his estate settlement papers list Hopkinton, Charlestown and Rich- of John Hudnal. Mary was born Mary all his sons who were of age but none of mond) from the Indian chief Sosoa (or Elizabeth Webb. Edward and Mary had his daughters. (Note: Lemuel’s known Ninigret as he was also named).11 In two sons, Edward and Ebenezer. sons were: Thomas, Edward, Lemuel, September 1661, three members of the Ebenezer Saunders married Elizabeth Samuel and Jessee). company — Tobias Saunders, Joseph Phillips and they had at least one son Lemuel Saunders was my first known Clarke and Robert Burdick — went in Saunders/Sanders ancestor. Any help on and settled their land, which was a com- who was named Edward. Edward 12 Saunders married Winifred who was this will be appreciated. plete wilderness at the time. In that probably a Presley, Conway or Ball and same year, Tobias married Mary they had sons William, Thomas and Peckham, daughter of Mary Clarke and Edward. What Happened to Willis Sanders? John Peckham. It must have been a real struggle to survive, but they were helped Thomas Saunders married Judith (last Ed Sanders, PO Box 7219, Surprise by the friendly natives. Tobias was name unknown) in 1742. In 1755 they AZ 85374, . known to be a friend to the Indians, as sold the land left to them by his father, Willis Perry Sanders III, born 22 Aug described by Nelson B. Vars in his book, Edward, in Northumberland County, 1873 in Leake Co., Mississippi. Parents Records of Tobias Saunders and His Virginia and moved to Maryland. were Willis Perry II and Sarah Virginia Descendants: Nothing else, for sure, is known about “Sallie” (Horton) Sanders. Willis Perry this family but (in theory) the next few “Whenever there was any distur- III was the first child born, he had eight bance or contention among the listings could connect him to my line. siblings—John Wesley, Lawrence Tax records of Richmond County, Indians they came to Tobias with Edward, Ethel Melonie, Albert their complaints who summonsed Virginia for 1710 list a Lem (Lemuel ?) Theodore, Robert Lacey, Emily Alama, Cox. I found this while researching my the delinquents by sending a Burley Wright, and Mary Exar. The smooth stick with three notches cut Cox line in the Browder family. I also family moved to Texas about 1884- found that “Judith” was a common name in it, a warrant which was always 1885, around Brown county. Willis respected.” in the Cox family. Richmond County Perry III had an argument with his joins Northumberland County therefore father and left home. This was around “In 1703 an Indian Chief gave Thomas 1890-1894; no trace can be found of John Saunders fifty acres of land, for Saunders’ wife Judith may have been him. Any information would be very the love he had for his father; and descended from Lem/Lemuel Cox. helpful in filling out the Sanders family there were a number of Indians who From Quaker records: Gunpowder record. (Continued on page three) Page 3 No. 54 Jul/2008 SANDERSSiftings

(Continued from page two) who fled either to the Iroquois in the Siftings Back Issues Available 18 named their children ‘Toba’ after him. west or the Abenakis to the north. One later was ‘Toba Ross,’ for many Back issues of SANDERS Siftings Tobias Saunders was elected seven years the head of the tribe.” are available at $3.00 each. They are: times as Deputy to the Rhode Island No. 2, July 1995 through No. 53, General Assembly and on 4 July 1695 he On 1 Nov 1661 Tobias Saunders, April 2008. If you order eight issues or presided as Moderator of the Westerly Robert Burdick and Joseph Clarke were more, the price will be $2.00 per issue. town meeting, but by the following arrested for trespass by , A copy of issue No. 1, April, 1995, meeting on 23 August he was already a Massachusetts constable, in a contin- 19 will be included free with any order deceased. uing dispute between Massachusetts, for back issues. Rhode Island and over this References (endnotes): land. On 14 November Tobias and 1. “The English Origins of Tobias Burdick were put on trial in Boston, Saunders of Westerly, Rhode Island”, by Paul convicted, fined £40 and kept in jail for A. Saunders, The Connecticut Nutmegger, over a year.13 They were released in taining a famous quote: vol.29, no.4, pp.583-588. 1663 and returned to Rhode Island As for your advice to agree with 2. Peirce’s Colonial Lists, by Ebenezer W. while the two governments squabbled those our neighbours of Stonington & Peirce, 1881, p.75. over payment of the fine, which was the other gentlemen we hope that 3. Records of Tobias Saunders and His finally resolved in Rhode Island’s favor your colony & ours will in the first Descendants, by Nelson B. Vars, 1880-1902, after the new charter was granted. In place lovingly agree and then we unpub. Ms. at Westerly Public Library, p.51. 1669 Tobias was made a Conservator of question not but there will be an 4. The Founders of the Massachusetts Bay the Peace for Westerly.14 During his agreement between us and our neigh- Colony, by Sarah Saunders Smith, 1897, tenure as Conservator an amusing inci- bours of Stonington and the rest of pp.39-40. dent occurred, as recorded by Vars in the gentlemen.16 5. Ironworks on the Saugus, by E. N. Records of Tobias Saunders and His Hartley, 1957, p.130. Tobias wrote to Governor Winthrop Descendants: 6. Records and Files of the Quarterly Courts again on 2 May 1673 concerning “At that time people were not in of Essex County, Massachusetts, vol.1, pp.174, Connecticut’s fines against Westerly and 198 & 199. the habit of salting meat for winter on 3 July of that year he wrote to use, but subsisted mostly on wild 7. “Those Hammersmith Rowdies”, by Winthrop’s son, Fitz John Winthrop, on Paul A. Saunders, The Essex Genealogist, v.6, game which was very abundant. behalf of Chief Ninigret concerning the no.3, August 1986, pp.121-122. Consequently when a pig was killed actions of the Indian chief, “King 8. Rhode Island Land Evidences, 1648-1696 most of it would be lent to the Philip.” On 7 July 1675 he wrote for Abstracts, vol. I, pp. 28 & 29. neighbours who would pay in the Chief Ninigret to Major General 9. Records of the Colony of R.I. & same way when convenient. A Wait[still] Winthrop, brother of Fitz Providence Plantations in New England, ed. by neighbour of Tobias — notorious for John Winthrop, to arrange a meeting John R. Bartlett, 1856, vol. I, p.301. his indolence — came to him at one the next day between them and request- 10. New England Historical and time to know what he should do, for ing that Chief not be invited to Genealogical Register, vol. 123, pp.35 & 36. he had killed his pig and if he attend. I have copies of all the original 11. Narragansett Historical Register, II should pay what he had borrowed letters.17 (1883), pp.36 & 37. he should have none left. Tobias Ninigret proved to be a loyal friend to 12. Westerly and Its Witnesses, by Frederic told him to hang it up in an open the English during King Philip’s War Denison, 1878, p.50. shed and say in the morning that it (1673 to 1677), and was honored in 13. Records of the Governor and Company was stolen, and perhaps they would 1914 with a bronze statue overlooking of the Massachusetts Bay in New England, ed. not exact the pig. He did according- the sea at Watch Hill near Westerly. by Nathaniel B. Shurtleff, v. IV, pp.44, 45 & ly and in the morning found the pig During the war, Westerly families fled to 101. was gone. Tobias went in the night, Newport and Connecticut and during 14. Civil and Military List of Rhode Island, took the meat and salted it by itself, these years there are no town records, as by Joseph Jencks Smith, 1900, p. 6. and during the next summer lent it town business ceased for that period. In 15. Public Records of the Colony of piece by piece to its owner until it 1676 the refugees began to return to Connecticut, by J. Hammond Trumbull, v.2 was all gone. The man on being told Westerly. (1852), pp.138, 160, 188, 537, 550, 553; v.3 that he had been borrowing his own (1859), p.39. As a percentage of the English popu- meat, was highly exasperated.” 16. “Colonial Boundaries 1662-1827”, lation killed, King Philip’s War was far Connecticut State Archives, Series 1, Vol.1, Between 1670 and 1679, there were a more devastating to America than any Doc.45. series of arrests between Rhode Island war since that time. World War II cost 17. Winthrop Family Papers, Massachu- and Connecticut over jurisdiction of us about 1% of American adult men, the 15 setts Historical Society Collection, vol. 41, p. this land. These were not resolved Civil War between 4% & 5%, but King 426. until long after Tobias died in 1695. On Philip’s War close to 8% in Plymouth 18. Mayflower, A Story of Courage, 11 March 1669/70, and Colony. The Indians, however, fared Community and War, by Nathaniel Philbrick, Tobias wrote to John Winthrop Jr., then much worse, losing between 60% and 2006, p. 332. Governor of Connecticut, concerning 80% in Southern New England due to 19. “Westerly Settlers, No.7,” by Charles the dispute between Westerly and injuries, sickness, starvation, and those Denison, The Narragansett Weekly, Feb.13, Stonington over land jurisdiction, con- shipped out of the country as slaves or 1862. SANDERSSiftings No. 54 Jul/2008 Page 4

Elva Hoge Dixon Traces Her Early Saunders Genealogy and Life - Part II This is a continuation and conclusion families. I was graduated from the week, each. I loved the school and we of an article by Elva Dixon started in the eighth grade in Edwardsville, Ill., with had the same principal as he transferred April issue (No. 53) of Sanders Siftings. all the graduates from the county. I was there, too. I graduated in May 1941. Elva was one of the original sub- 47th out of 247 students and made an The middle of May I was on crutches. I scribers to Sanders Siftings. I visited her average of 92.8. Ruby made higher threw my knee out of place one night in Chesapeake, Va. in March 2001. That grades than me and Dolores moved while sleeping. I was teased terrible is when she gave me the handwritten away several years earlier. about that and it took 12 heat treat- material for this article. Elva passed After my graduation I started to ments before I could walk again. Just away in June of 2007. Alhambra High School. My brother before graduation my Aunt Minnie died I (Elva Ruth Hoge) was born 12 May Arthur bought me a bicycle to ride the and Aunt Bert and Uncle Guy from 1923 at the farm home three miles south three miles to the school. I was not Nebraska came for the funeral. They of Alhambra. My doctor was Dr. Charles allowed to ride on the highway; had to stayed on for my graduation. Hornsburger and they paid $12 for me. I stay on the back streets. I left my bicy- After graduation I had to wait for my was a breech baby but was in good cle at Aunt Minnie’s (Pop’s sister), knee to heal, then went back to a baby health except for the normal childhood parked under a big tree and walked the sitting job and living with another diseases. We all had colds each winter quarter mile to school. If the weather wealthy family in Wilmette, Ill. I was and were treated with Vicks Vapo-Rub was bad, she put my bicycle in her trying to save enough money for a secre- and Pinex cough syrup. I was born with garage. I had to ride in sunshine, rain, tary course. I was making $14.00 a a large strawberry birthmark on the back snow, or any kind of weather. In the week but World War II erupted and of my neck. It was red and stood out. winter I wore a ski suit over my dress to changed my life. I went to Long Beach, The doctor wanted to cut it off but Mom keep warm. There were very few days I Calif., where Fern worked at Douglas wouldn’t let him. It was treated with got a ride with Pop. It was a very cold Aircraft, intending to get a job there. castor oil every day and I used that ride at times as it got below zero many Instead I got a job as a telephone opera- myself when I was six years old. It even- days and I rode against the north wind, tor with Pacific Bell. I stayed with the tually dried up with only a faint scar. but I never missed a day in three years. telephone company 12 years and worked Years ago Mom sent a clipping from the Times were still hard and I did good to in several cities-Long Beach, Calif., paper that said that if it had been cut off even get to go to school. Many of my Chicago, Ill., Fort Worth, Texas, Los I probably would not have lived. classmates had to quit and help on the Angeles, Calif., and Brockton, Mass. I started to school in 1929 at Wider farm. Fern had to walk the three miles After those 12 years I quit and married Range School #32. It was the same to school each day. I played the trumpet James Thompson Dixon of Newport, school Mom went to and taught but was (which Arthur bought me) in the band N.C. We lived in the Broad Creek area a new building, the first one burned. It the last two years and carried it on the of Newport where we ran his family gro- was a quarter of a mile west of our rear carrier of my bike. My books were cery store. After two years we left on a house. Sometimes I went home for in the front basket. vacation to Norfolk, Va., and decided to lunch, but most of the time I took my I graduated in May 1940 and in June stay. James got a job as a painting con- lunch in a tin pail that sorghum had I went to Chicago alone to do house- tractor and I worked for a TV repair come in. Most of the time it was a piece work for a very wealthy family, to save shop. After a few months James got a job of chicken or ham and bread and an money for school clothes. Cousin as a grocery store manager. He stayed 14 apple. I didn’t want to go home for Adella got me the job and Mom thought years then went into his own seafood lunch as I would miss playing with my it was very good training. Adella had and produce company. In 1958 I got a schoolmates. I loved school and always gone to California along with my sister job with civil service in communications made good grades. Fern. I was met by Fern’s friend, Rose, at the Norfolk Naval Station and who I had never met. I had never been Cinclant Fleet. I stayed there 25 years, My first teacher was Rosalie retiring in 1983. James retired on a McKelvey of St. Louis and I had her one in a big city alone or taken a bus alone. It was quite an experience for me but I medical in 1980. In July 1999 James year and Leona Suessen the second year. died after being in the hospital 2 1/2 There were two other girls in my first had no trouble. Rose was at the station to meet me. I stayed with the Wooden months. He had a colostomy and he grade class. Ruby Long and Dolores never recovered. I was in the hospital Kombrink. The first week Ruby fol- family in Winnetka, Ill., and was paid $7.00 a week. I stayed till the end of and nursing home for six months with lowed the teacher everywhere she went vascular problems and surgery. I didn’t and Dolores cried all week. I wouldn’t August then came back home. Our school at Alhambra was only a three- get to the funeral. He is buried here at talk to anyone but the teacher and my Chesapeake Memorial Gardens. Now I sister Fern. From my third grade on I year high school, so I had to find anoth- er for my fourth year. spend my time with the church, genealo- had Mildred Payne as a teacher. She was gy, walking, and playing my organ. from Greenville, Ill., and still lives there. I had a choice of Highland, St. We had from 8 to 20 in the whole Jacob, or Edwardsville. The county From Billy Sanders . My g-g-g-grandfather was families were. When a family moved it own transportation. Mom had made Burrell Sanders. He married Nancy made a big difference in the school arrangements for me to go to St. Jacob. Lindsay in Warren County, Georgia attendance. Our school district took in One of my former classmates drove and January 3, 1814. I am searching for one square mile. Some had very large picked up five of us every day for 50¢ a Burwell/Burrell's parents. Page 5 No. 54 Jul/2008 SANDERSSiftings

Gen. John C. C. Sanders Here Are the Sanders Buried in the Mt. Horeb From Tuscaloosa, Ala. Cemetery in Orange County, Indiana Was Confederate Hero Mt. Horeb Missionary Baptist Aug 27, 1875, age 1y/8m/1d. Church, two miles west of Orleans in Sanders, Hester E.; daut. of S.M. & M.J., JOHN CALDWELL CALHOUN SANDERS, Orange County, Indiana, was organized d. Mar l3, 1878. age 6y/8m/1d. soldier, was born in Tuscaloosa county, in 1839. Near the church is a well kept Sanders, Samuel S.; son of Joseph & Ala., April 4, 1840; son of Dr. Charles community cemetery, in which the old- Liza, d. Mar 6, 1887. age 25y/9m/2d. Peak and Elizabeth Ann (Thompson) est marked stone is that of the wife of Sanders, Joseph G.; d. Feb 23, 1875, age Sanders of Charleston, S.C.; grandson of Nathaniel Sanders, who died in 1864. 45y/lm/13d. William and Martha (Ditmore) Sanders The site of the first church house is west Sanders, Eliza; Aug 1, 1830 - June 23, and of Dr. Matthew and Arabella (Keys) of the present one, about one mile. It 1916. Mother Thompson. His parental grandfather, a was used for about 13 years and a clus- Sanders, Levi Sr.; d. Apr 27, 1873, age native of England, emigrated to ter of trees on a hill marks the site of old 59y/4m/29d, Charleston, S.C. His maternal ancestors Mt. Horeb Cemetery where it is known Sanders, Sally P.; wife of Levi Sr., d. May resided in Anderson district, S.C. that members of the Burton and Sanders 9, 1873, age 57y/5m/29d. He was a cadet in the University of families were buried but no markers Sanders, Joseph Ray; Mar 12, 1850 - Nov Alabama, and was the first member of were found. Here are the Sanders who 29, 1881. the student body to leave that institu- are listed as buried in this cemetery: on one stone: tion in 1861 to join the Confederate on one stone: Sanders, Joseph; Oct 29, 1830 - Jan 3, States army. He at once volunteered as a Sanders, Nathan Sr.; Dec 18, 1815 - Sept 1865. private in a military company raised in 13, 1896 Sanders, Elizabeth; wife of Joseph, Jan Greene county, and on the reorganiza- Sanders, Jane; his wife Apr 26, l814 - 24, 1844 - Mar., l870. tion of this command was elected its Feb 2l, 1904 Sanders, Nancy E.; daut. of L. & S., Nov captain, assigned to the 11th Alabama 2, 1844 - -July 10, 1880. regiment, and he was with his company on one stone: at Seven Pines, Gaines’s Mill, and Sanders, Nathan Jr.; Oct 10, 1853 - Nov on one stone: Frayser's Farm. In the last-named battle 17, 192_ Sanders, Sarah; Nov 1, 1841 - Mar 29, he was severely wounded. Promoted to Sanders, Sarah D.; Feb 17, 1856 - May 1906 the colonelcy of his regiment, he led it 18, 1911 Sanders, Joseph; Sept 8, 1837 - at Fredericksburg, and was conspicu- Sanders, George A.; Mar 7, l874 - Feb Sanders, Clementine; d. Feb 24, 1937, ously gallant at Salem Church. 25, 1940. age 74y/7m/7d. At Gettysburg he was wounded, and Sanders, David F.; Nov 16, 1875 - Mar Sanders, Samuel; d. Jan 10, 1869, age in the winter of 1863-64, he was presi- l4, 1906 59y/11m/9d. dent of the division court-martial. At Sanders, Manley E.; May 11, 1879 - Aug 13, 1901 on one stone: the Wilderness he commanded his regi- Sanders, Jesse M.; Nov l1, 1836 - Mar 6, ment, and after General Perrin fell, he Sanders, Angeline; wife of J.A. Oct 18, 1852 - July 1, 1887. 1882. led the brigade to the assault of the Sanders, Thurzy; wife of Jesse M. d. Dec horse-shoe salient, recapturing a part of on one stone: 30, 1899, age 68y/l5d. (buried at the lost works. For his gallantry here on Sanders, Rev. Wright; May 10, 1835 - South Haven, Kansas as wife of M. May 31, 1864, he was made a brigadier- Jan 4, l905. Riggs) general. His brigade consisted of the Sanders, C. Ellen; his wife June l7, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, and 14th Alabama 1828- - June 9, 1903. Sanders, Fannie E.; dau. of J. & S., Sept 4, 1860 - 0ct. 24, 1874. regiments. In an assault on the enemy’s Sanders, Lewis Albert; son of Wright & lines, June 22, 1864, near Petersburg, Sanders, Milton M.; son of N. & S. J., d. C.E. Aug 9, 1861 - May 18, 1878 July 16, 1871, age 5m/25d. General Sanders was the first to mount Sanders, Edward B.; 1870 - - 1933 the breastworks, and the brigade cap- Sanders, Effie E.; dau. of H. wife & C., tured more men than it numbered. The on one stone: d. Oct 29, 1882, 4m/7d, brigade fought, June 23, 25, 29, and 30, Sanders, Ross E.; 1870 - 1902 Sanders, Nathaniel; d. Feb 12, 1875, age the last being the battle of the Crater, Sanders, Emma; 186l - l937 43y/26d. Sanders, ...;wife of N. d. Apr 1, 1864, age when it retook the lost position. At Sanders, J. Grant; May 8, 1865 - Nov 7, 30y/3m/5d. (stone broken) Deep Bottom, Aug. 16, he again distin- 1941. guished himself while commanding his Sanders, Joel R; son of S. M. & M. J., d. Sanders Marker with 4 names: own and a North Carolina brigade. On Samuel P., d. Dec 3, 1902, age Aug. 21, he led the brigade against the 63y/5m./23d. heavy force of the enemy which had advanced on foot, was struck by a minie Louisa; wife, of S., d. Apr l5, 1896, age seized the Weldon railroad. The ball which passed through both thighs, 55y/1m/4d. Confederates drove back two lines of severing the femoral arteries. His death Sons of S. P. & L. Sanders: battle, but upon emerging from the occurred on the following day, Aug. 22, Levi B.; d. Nov 2, 1880 , age woods, they were confronted by a line of 1864. View full context in The Twentieth 16y/9m/12d. defences and were obliged to seek shelter Century Biographical Dictionary of Walter; d. Sept 19, 1894, age in the woods. General Sanders, who had Notable Americans: Volume IX. l4y/9m/20d. SANDERSSiftings No. 54 Jul/2008 Page 6

their children down for the family once. ASSORTED QUERIES . . . Mattie Saunders/Sanders Stewert, E. Lee Hoover, 544 Twomey Road, will share a report of this line to those Thomas Jefferson Saunders/Sanders, Centerville, TN 37033-5212, who wish to compare notes. William Franklin Saunders/Sanders (he died in WWII), James Saunders/ is seeking veri- ______fication of the children and grand chil- Sanders, Lena Susie Sanders/Saunders dren of Thomas Saunders b. ca.1720 and Chisum, George Alexander Saunders/ wife Judith. Her records may not be From Tina Ferrel . There is a Greer County, have been working on this for eight months and hoping that someone can Thos. Saunders m. Mary Perry Russel Cemetery in Oklahoma that my help. So please help. William Saunders m. Sarah Ragan gggrandpa was buried in. He is a Benjamin wife unk. Saunders/Sanders. Matter a fact it is a Here is my first ever on Ancestry.com Nahum wife unk Saunders/Sanders Cemetery. There G.A. it has a little more of the dates than the Sanders, Kichin Sanders, Mary Sanders, one above: Thos. killed in action at Guilford S. S. Sanders buried there. Don’t know George Alexander Sanders was born Courthouse in Revolutionary War. death 1820, etc.. etc.. G. A. is George Nathaniel Perry, father of Mary, left in Chester Mound, Tennessee on Alexander Saunders/Sanders he was August 20, 1846. He died January 30, grandson Nathaniel Saunders property born in “Chester Mound,” Tennessee in in his will. Was Nathaniel the only 1933 in Greer County, Russell, 1837-1848. He died in Oklahoma in Oklahoma. George’s parents were child of Thos. and Mary? Was Mathilda 1933, but he spent a lot of his life in Saunders, who m. Daniel Tubbs a Samuel S. Saunders and Pamela J. Texas. 1900 census shows him living in Morris, m. 15 Oct. 1830 Mecklenburg. daughter or granddaughter of Wm. Erath County, Texas with all his children Saunders and Sarah Ragan? Who was He was married to Cynthia Parlee (not his wife because she died in 1899). Joslin; do not know when yet. Cynthia Benjamin’s wife? Where did they go Plus there are many stories about him from Dickson Co., Tenn.? was born May 31, 1858 in Cherokee doing so. Also there is a 1930 census Co., Rusk, Texas. She died on May 24, ______with him and some of his grandchildren. 1899 and was buried in Erath County, George’s wife’s name was Cynthia Parlee Huckabay, Texas. Cynthia’s mom’s Kathleen (Sisson) Boyd, . I would love to hear from either in Cherokee Co., Texas like her childern: Mattie Sanders who later mar- anyone who is related to this line of family said or she was born in Van ried a Richard Stewert. Their children Sanders from Kershaw District, South Zandt, Texas like her daughter was. She were: Linnie, Naomi, Rick, David and Carolina. My information at this time is was born in 1858. Then when she died Clara Mae; James (Jim) Sanders born limited to descendants of Martha and she was buried in Huckabay, Texas in Feburary 22; Edreth her/his children James D. Bird her husband, but I suspect Huckabay Cemetery in 1899. were Fern, June, Wanda, Cumille, Gale; Martha’s grandfather may have been Except for a few census records I can- William (Will) Sanders died in World George Sanders after recently finding a not find anything on George anywhere. War I or II; George Alexander Sanders copy of his will in the S.C. Archives on I found her whole family before in a Jr (Alex) was married to Belvie their line. It is also possible that a family by family tree on rootsweb.com. Her par- children were Loraine, Clemuel (Clem), the name Drakford maybe somehow ents’ names were James Sanford Joslin Jimmy, Clovis, and Donald, Billy; related. Thank you in advance and I and Mary R Thorp. My g-aunt wrote Mosley Sanders.

The Central Georgia Genealogical Quarterly Has Early Indiana Settlers The following was sent in by Mary Apr 1823 (1) Jinson Jessup (issue four William Sanders for poll tax. Owen Co. Ann Machonkin, 19 Cupania Ct., children) and m. 25 Mar 1833 (2) marriages were: John Sanders, Jr. and Homosassa, FL 34446, . It is taken from page 26 of Sanders, b. c1808, N.C., m. 25 Mar Richard Sanders and Mary Hasting on the Central Georgia Genealogical 1833, Mary Ann Jessup, b. c1814 22 Oct 1844. Henry Sanders, b. c1790, Quarterly, Vol. 8, No. 4, and was sub- Stokes Co., N.C. (issue seven children). S.C., and w. Susanna, b. c1806, Tenn., mitted by William H. Henry of Warner Note: the 1879 Atlas of Greene County settled Van Buren Township of Monroe Robins, Georgia. (More than Greene shows a cemetery on property of Mary Co. An early settler in Indiana County Sanders appear in this very “dis- Sanders, one mile north of mouth of Territory was Jacob Sanders, who voted jointed” listing.) Eel River. Prisellia Sanders, b. c1798, on 8 Feb 1812 in Beach Creek N.C., m. c1819, Evan Owen, b. c1786, Township of Knox County. Early Settlers of Greene County, Va. Rachel Sanders m. 1 Feb 1824, Indiana (from Southern States) William Maxwell. William Sanders, b. Nova Savage, 41/b Uxbridge Road, 1817 [from] North Carolina: John c1796, N.C., and w. Martha, b. c1805, Howick, Auckland 1705, New Zealand, Sanders, b. c1772, N.C., and w. Mary, Va., settled Owen County prior 1833. . Does anyone have with sons Harbard, John & Charles set- The 1843 Owen Co. Tax List shows: information on Violet Belle Saunders, tled early in Eel River Township. heirs of Wright Sanders owned 160 born 1908 to Rosetta and Charles Obed Harbard Sanders, b. c1800, N.C., m. 20 acres; Henry Sanders with 80 acres; and Saunders, please? Page 7 No. 54 Jul/2008 SANDERSSiftings

Linda Sheill Tells About Her Genealogy Search Odyssey The following article about Gustave The one word list that I found doesn’t I got lucky with the film from the Sanders was written by Linda Sheill, have words on it that would pertain to Oakland Press newspaper at my local 2760 N. Lake Angelus Road, W., genealogy such as days of the week, library, I found the death notice I was Waterford, MI 48329-2531, . It shows quite clearly find in birth, marriage and death only daughter of my relative did not that all Sanders and Saunders did not reports. marry, so there is no descendants to look come from England, Scotland, or Ireland. The entrants on the micro-film for for. I did finally find where he and his I am a great granddaughter of the marriage, births, and deaths have a wife were buried and called the cemetery Gustave Sanders born 1860, his daugh- wealth of information just waiting to be for her death date. ter, (my grandmother) died young and translated. All the Belgium websites are Christmas is here so I am going to the family lost contact with the Sanders in Dutch and I can‘t get Google to trans- have to take a break for a few weeks. side of the family. I cannot find any late them. The one thing I have learned, is no mat- other descendants from this Sanders ter how insignificant a source may seem I just found a Kortemark, Belgium family. There must be some relatives it still has to be recorded, because soon- genealogy site and e-mailed them for around but I cannot find them. I have er or later you or someone you share help, now I get to wait for an answer. I been to Pontiac, Michigan where they your information with is going to ask hope someone there can read English. lived, checking the historical society where you came up with what you have. They e-mailed me the next day and will while there I found the cemetery where So each fact I record from the microfilm help me, I am sending a birth record for he is buried, and to Lansing, Michigan has a year or page number and the film my great grandfather. One day later I checking the city directories at the number, sometime it takes longer to have my translation!!! I have never had University library. From the city direc- record what I find than it takes to go such good results before. tories I know the spouses of his chil- through the film. dren, but the trail ends there. I am really having good luck this The microfilm that I rented at the I have purchased his death certificate week, I found a genealogy society for Family History Center is proving to be and marriage certificate so I now have the West Flanders area in Belgium, excellent, now I am going back a genera- his and his wife‘s parents names. which is where Kortemark is, and it is a tion at a time. The records list everyone short distance from my home with a My g grandfather immigrated from present when recording births, their ages library of family trees and censuses. Belgium to Michigan. When I obtained occupation, place of birth and present They are only open two Saturdays a the name of the ship he arrived on in residence. The wedding records list the month, I can‘t wait for the second 1888 and the city in Belgium he had same plus parents of the couple and Saturday of the month so I can go lived in (Kortmark), I went to the Latter dates of death when they are deceased. check out their documents. Another Day Saints’ “Family History Center.” It makes it a lot easier to find each previ- plus is someone at the library will They have two reels of microfilm in ous generation. The death records list translate documents for $4.00, a very Utah for Kortmark, Belgium beginning parents of the deceased person plus reasonable sum for so much informa- in 1847 and continuing on to 1870. I spouse and also whether parents and tion to be gained. paid them $11.50 and waited two weeks spouse are alive. The reporting person is for my films to arrive. I also found six Sanders listed on a listed as relative or friend. I still have not mastered the language but am The volunteers at the library didn‘t Kortemark, Belgium white-pages web- amazed at what I am able to dig out of think I would have any success finding site and sent them all letters with my the records. A big help is the fact that Gustave’s parents’ marriage since cou- family tree hoping someone is related to the records are very orderly and there is ples usually get married in the brides’ my great-great grandfather. Somehow an index for each year, otherwise I am parish. Well there they were, married in all this seems too good to be true. sure there would be a lot I would over- 1857 in Kortmark. With the marriage Saturday I went to the Genealogy look. It is very hard on the eyes the record I got back one more generation Society of Flemish Americans and met writing is calligraphy and words run as the bride and groom’s parents were the nice people that are members there together. It is hard to look-up a word listed. After the marriage, every year or including one gentleman who was born when you can‘t determine the first letter. two there were babies born, so I was in Belgium, and patiently sat and helped able to find all of Gustave’s siblings, and me translate my great-great grandfather’s It has been at least two months since their birth dates. The problem I am marriage document from the court I mailed letters to Sanders families in having now is translating the records, records of Kortemark, Belgium. There Belgium and have no responses, I really they seem to be in Flemish, according to are a lot of books there but they are didn‘t expect to get a response but I had the library workers. One volunteer is almost all in Dutch, I think I will have to try. doing German research and could make to rely mostly on the Family History 28 February 2008 I waited eight out a few of the words for me. I have Center microfilms for my information weeks for a microfilm to come in at the been on the internet trying to find a for now. Somehow I am going to have Family History Center and it is the word list for Flemish but the only thing to make time to go to the Library, they wrong one. I made a one digit mistake that I can find is German or Dutch called to inform me I have three films in when ordering and now I have to suffer translations, so I am using the Dutch and with Christmas two weeks away this the consequences. In checking the map with pretty good success. Flemish is going to be difficult. I also have a on the internet I find the city on the seems to be a non-existent language. microfilm in at my local library. (Continued on page eight) SANDERSSiftings No. 54 Jul/2008 Page 8

(Continued from page seven) out of reach. About This Issue wrong microfilm is very close to the city I sent a letter to Barbara Sanders We still need more readers send- my ancestors are from so I checked it through the school board and am impa- ing in material, especially queries. I out anyway. It was worth a shot, but I tiently waiting for a reply, it has been will now accept queries that have didn‘t find any ancestors in the film. five days, if I don‘t get a reply, I am going only an e-mail address. There is less Now I get to wait at least three more to wait a couple of weeks, and send chance of a response, though. weeks for the correct film. another letter. Some of you have mentioned your My latest film is in at the Family My letter came back, the school lack of progress. Get to work! History Center in West Bloomfield, board had sent it to the same address I had for Barbara’s mother and father. I still need good stories about Mich. and I am going to have to renew Now I know I have the correct person Sanders or Saunders people such as my memory of this family since I have anyway. Back at the Pontiac City articles from family histories, biogra- been off researching another branch of Library looking through yearbooks for phies from county histories and bio- my tree and need a complete review of my teacher relative. I found her in graphical directories, and obits. the ancestors I will be searching for. This film is just as good as the rest, nice- 1988-1993 in the teachers section of the I do not have very many articles ly indexed and clearly written. I am yearbooks, now I know what she looks left over to be used in succeeding really rusty on this family and am just like. Finally I found her phone number issues. I prefer to have a good back copying entries that I am sure are of the on the internet searching through all the log. Especially needed are shorter family. The Family Center is really busy people finding sites. I am so excited I stories or longer queries. today and I would like help reading called her right away, it took some I need more stories of various some of the records but the lady that explaining as to who I am before she lengths, wills, your genealogy could help me is not going to be able to warmed up to the conversation, but I odyssey, old letters, great research get to me before her shift is over. On my persisted. Barbara didn’t marry and has ideas, obituaries, etc. Keep sending own at home I find that I have gotten a no heirs to be interested in the family in products of your research, but I few more birth dates and death dates, tree so I am going slow. She lives about need quite a few short items. Also, the marriage of one of my gggrandfa- three hours drive from where I live and I more good pictures are needed to ther’s brother supplied his father’s death am going to try to see her this summer support stories. Think about the and a new birth region, according to my whether she likes it or not. kind of things you like to read here, map the city is very close to Kortemarck. and send similar material. I need help translating again. Back at It will be very much appreciated if the Flemish Genealogy society I hit the James W. Sanders and you send me your queries and other jack-pot, they have a booklet with exam- material via e-mail. Send it to me at ples of birth, marriage and death records Gertrude Manson . If you can’t e- with the exact wording as the ones I Married in Cab mail, send cleanly typed copy. I can have. Finally I will get somewhere with This appeared in The Ravia Herald 23 scan it with OCR software and a this translating. May 1908, Ravia, Johnston County, scanner to save time. Whichever is I have been also trying to track family Oklahoma. okay for you—but send me something! members that are still living. Using a San Antonio, Texas, May 19 - If you are reading this in a library death notice, I found a cemetery where Matrimony is keeping with his swiftly or from another person’s copy and an uncle of my father is buried. I went moving age was accomplished in this you are not a subscriber and have there and took pictures of the monu- city today by James Wilson Sanders and never received a complimentary copy, ment and headstone. While there I Miss Gertrude Manson of Kervill, who send me a query, with your U.S. mail found out his daughter has a grave wait- were married by Justice Umshoid while address. I will send you a free sample ing for her plus the lady helping me making a thrilling drive from the court copy that includes your query. remembered a teacher with the daugh- house to the train. These lovers were to E-mail addresses of contributors ter’s name. I called the school and was meet by appointment in San Antonio but are listed right after their regular referred to the school board office. The by some mistake missed each other until mailing address in these signs < >, if school board confirmed there was a by mental telepathy each one reached the person has an e-mail address. teacher by that name, now I am going to the conclusion that the other would This newsletter was done in write a letter to her for them to forward, probably be at the courthouse. Here QuarkXPress 5.01 on a PowerMac So many times information I need is just they met just fifteen minutes before the G4 computer and output is on a train left that was to take the groom to Hewlett-Packard LaserJet 2200D. an important business engagement. Text type is 10 pt. Berkeley Medium Is This Your Last Issue? They rushed madly to the clerk’s office, on 11 pt. line spacing. Display type If the address on the envelope in snatched a license before he had it hard- is Berkeley and Opine Heavy. which your newsletter was mailed has ly filled out, unceremoniously hustled Scanning is done with a Microtek this—Jul 08, your subscription ex- the justice of the peace into a hack. The ScanMaker IIHR using ScanWizard, pires with this issue. Renew now if groom ordered the cabby to drive at a PhotoShop, and OmniPage Pro. this is your last issue, by sending $12 gallop and the justice to get buys with The envelopes are addressed on for another year’s subscription. Please the marriage ceremony. They were mar- the HP LaserJet 2200D printer. include your current e-mail address. ried in time, made their train also and it is presumed will live happy ever after. Sanders Siftings

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