© Aroha Knits LLC Fibre Muse Podcast Season 2, Episode 3 Yoriko: Yeah

Frenchie: Kia ora and welcome to the Fibre Muse Podcast. This is your host Frenchie. Knitwear designer and design coach behind Aroha Knits where I empower fibre artists to transform their yarn so they can manifest more joy, healing, connection, and creativity into their lives one stitch at a time.

Frenchie: My work as a knitwear designer focuses on exploring the intersection of the four aspects of making; self-care, self-discovery, self-expression, and selflessness with my journey of making sense of my multicultural identity.

Frenchie: And on this podcast I'll be documenting this journey through interviews with crafters of color, members of the LGBTQ community, and other underrepresented communities in the industry to highlight their stories and learn how they're making intersects with their identity.

Frenchie: Hello there, Fibre Muses and welcome back to the Fibre Muse Podcast. This is your host, Frenchie, and I am so excited to be bringing you this brand new episode this week. But, before we dive in and before I introduce this week's guest I just want to give a huge thank you to all of our new Patreon supporters. We've had quite a large influx of new people signing up to support us on Patreon. So I just wanted to give you a thank you for that.

Frenchie: Your Patreon pledges go towards things such as helping pay my team for the work that they do. Aroha Knits is not just a one person brand. I have a team of people helping. Answering emails, getting things set up and all that good step. And also helping me with the podcast as well. And that wouldn't be possible without your support and contribution, because trying to pay people fairly for the work that they do can be really tough. But, your support really helps make that possible.

Frenchie: Additionally, the pledges also go towards helping pay for services such as grading. I've been able to find a new grader to help me with my garment designs to get them graded from sizes 0 and 2 all the way up to 32 to 34, which has been really exciting. Hopefully, making my patterns more size inclusive.

Frenchie: And then, also, another thing that these pledges help pay for are the transcripts for these podcast episodes. Just thinking about ways I can be more inclusive and ways that I can practice better allyship in the community, because I have seen such really great examples of allyship over these past few weeks. So it's definitely gotten me thinking, "How can I be a better ally in the areas where I have privilege?" So, that I just wanted to really say thank you to all of our Patreon supporters and this is where the money is going through.

Frenchie: So, before my voice gives out I'm going to introduce this week's guest. And this week we have Yoriko Oki from the Fibre Art Studio. Yoriko is an Indie Yarn dyer and passionate knitter based out of Vancouver. She is one of the owners of the Fibre Art Studio. Working alongside four other women, Yoriko is responsible for managing the Etsy shop. With a background of training in architecture and fashion design, Yoriko approaches her art from both aesthetic and technical standpoints. And, so, without further ado, here is Yoriko.

Frenchie: Hello there, Yoriko. How are you today?

Yoriko: I'm good. How are you?

Frenchie: I'm doing well. Thank you. So, just for a little bit of background for those listening. For our listeners. So, Yoriko and I, we've known each other for over a year now. I think. Is that right? Or longer?

Yoriko: It's hard to say.

Frenchie: Yeah.

Frenchie: Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Yoriko: And then I checked your account. That was probably about two years ago.

Frenchie: Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Yoriko: And then I joined your Initiate Knit Design challenge.

Frenchie: Oh. Okay.

Yoriko: And then I join your Swatch Studio.

Frenchie: Oh, you're a student in that? Oh Gosh.

Yoriko: You didn't know that, did you? Because I don't do anything.

Frenchie: Yeah. Well, you're a yarn dyer as well. You're a yarn dyer. But, I definitely know you really well from Chelsea's Fiber Boss elite mastermind that you're in.

Yoriko: Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Frenchie: That's the only way I got to really know you. And then, also, I help you with your ... well, I don't really help you with your Colour Way's, but I take photos of your Colour Way bases for your shop updates. Whenever you have a new Colour Way or a set of Colour Way's to do you send them over to me and I take photos of them.

Yoriko: Yes, you do. Beautiful pictures. Thank you so much.

Frenchie: Well, thank you. It's been really awesome being able to work with you in that capacity, 'cause I get to see all the beautiful colors before everybody else does. It's so exciting. It's just like Christmas every month. It's just like, "Oh my gosh. What has she done?" Like, "What beautiful colors has she come up with this time?" And it's just always such a treat to see them.

Frenchie: So, anyway, that's a little bit about how we've been working together for quite a while. Now I feel bad that I didn't know that you're in the Swatch Studio.

Yoriko: That's okay. We have many students in the class, so that's okay.

Frenchie: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What was I gonna say? Sorry. There's a bunch of noises going on around me. I forgot what I was gonna say. But, I guess, let's just go into introducing you to our listeners now. So, maybe if you could introduce yourself, what you do, where you are in the world, and all that good stuff?

Yoriko: Okay. My name is Yoriko Oki. I'm a Japanese living in Canada near Vancouver, British Columbia. I'm a dyer, a weaver, knitter. I like pretty much all aspects of fiber arts.

Frenchie: Mm-hmm (affirmative)

Yoriko: So, I like to bring joy to my customers life through fiber arts. That's what I'm trying to do.

Frenchie: Yeah. So, you and ... is it a group of other people, but you're the main person who runs a studio in Vancouver? Yeah. Sorry, I had to remember that. In Vancouver called The Fibre Art Studio, is that correct?

Frenchie: Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Yoriko: We are each unique. Very different. So, sometimes marketing part of it, it's kinda hard to market us, because we do so many different things. But, we are very unique, individual. But, we work together sometimes, too. And I am one of them. In terms of hand-dyed yarn, I am the main person who's leading the business.

Frenchie: Okay. Yeah, okay. Thank you for explaining that. So, because I've been working with you I know the type of yarn that you do. The yarn you like to dye, I should say. And it's a lot of color and a lot of variegated type of yarn. So, would you like to talk a little bit more about that? Like, your style?

Yoriko: My style. Variegated color is very much fun, because you ... in the way, like, you don't have to think too much about the pattern.

Frenchie: Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Yoriko: Like, you just do the [inaudible 00:07:42]. And you have beautiful piece. And it's very meditative, too. The color changes constantly, so you kinda look forward to the next color showing up, right?

Frenchie: Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Yoriko: I actually like ... interesting you mentioned that, yes. I am known to have a variegated colors, but I'm trying to introduce more semi-solid colors, because it's very interesting to me, the industry ... How shall I say industry?

Frenchie: Yeah.

Yoriko: It's hand-dyed yarn business changed so much in the last ten years or so. I started selling my yarn about fifteen years ago, but then nobody wanted to buy hand- dyed semi-solid color. And everybody says, "Well, I wish it was solid color. I just go to yarn store and buy the [inaudible 00:08:38]." So that was usually their response, so I did try to, you know ... I did dye some semi-solid, but they really didn't sell much.

Yoriko: But, recent years I start noticing more people want to support yarn-dyers and ... But, they want to support pattern designers or knitwear designers who is creating beautiful sketches and patterns. Variegated yarn doesn't really show that beautiful design very well sometimes.

Frenchie: Yeah.

Yoriko: So, yeah. It's changing a lot, in my eyes. Yeah.

Frenchie: Interesting. Yeah. Like you said, you've been in this industry for over fifteen years now. That's quite a long career. I definitely wanted to ...

Yoriko: I think so. Well, I started dying ... all my friends started dying yarn, because there weren't too many yarn stores back then. There weren't any online shops like we do nowadays. We are so fortunate now. You can buy anything from all over the world.

Frenchie: Mm-hmm (affirmative). Yeah. That's really true.

Yoriko: Yeah. Yeah. So, we had to dye yarn to make colors we wanted. So that's how we got started.

Yoriko: I kind of started doing that last year. Probably, well, I had few before, too. But I started more consciously last November or so. But, of course, developing colors takes long time for me. I am not a quick person.

Frenchie: Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Yoriko: I tend to think too much in the way. To decide on, say[inaudible 00:10:25] I probably dye maybe twenty and pick the one I really like.

Frenchie: Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Yoriko: So, yeah. So it took time, but I am more conscious about introducing the semi- solid colors this year starting in January.

Frenchie: Do you find the process of dying semi-solid yarns ... I guess it is different, but is there any challenges to dying semi-solid yarns compared to variegated yarns?

Yoriko: Semi-solid yarns, believe it or not, takes more time to dye. Because, variegated colors I can set up the pot and I can be doing something else. But, semi-solid colors ... people should want some consistency in colors, right?

Frenchie: Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Yoriko: They don't want blotchy skein of yarn where it looks like ... just like regular colors in one [inaudible 00:11:23] color. That's boring in a way. It could be interesting. Okay. Let's not go there. So, it needs a lot of babysitting at the dye pot. So, if you're the listeners thinking, "Oh, like, it must be easy to dye the semi-solid and, you know, the dyers must be just cooking them up really quick." It's just not true, so. Yeah. I like people to know that.

Frenchie: Oh. Okay. That's actually really good for people to know. What are other misconceptions about yarn dying that you want people to know?

Yoriko: Well I get this quite often, "Oh, you must be making a lot of money with this expensive yarn." I like to say people, "Like, you know. Base yarn is very expensive." I wouldn't say any yarn dyer is making a huge amount of money and it's a bit hard work.

Frenchie: Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Yoriko: So, yeah. That's something I like to say.

Frenchie: Yeah, I would imagine that the profit margins wouldn't be super wide for yarn dyers, because you have to buy the blank skeins of yarn and that's capital that you have to invest in and all that stuff. And then also buying the dye pots and stuff like that. And also you have to deal with limited space, so there's only a certain amount of yarn that you can dye by a certain time. Et cetera. Et cetera.

Frenchie: So, yeah. It's very challenging and a good reason why hand dyed yarn is priced the way that it is, because there's a lot of hard work that goes into it.

Yoriko: Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Frenchie: Yeah. Yeah, for sure. But, it's definitely more than just sitting around all day next to dye pots and doing nothing. It's a really hard, intensive work.

Yoriko: Yeah. It is. Yeah.

© Aroha Knits LLC Fibre Muse Podcast Season 2, Episode 3 Frenchie: Same thing for knitwear design. We're not just sitting around knitting all day. There's a lot of other work that goes into it as well.

Yoriko: Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Frenchie: But, anyways, That's a topic for another time.

Yoriko: Okay.

Frenchie: So, you didn't mention this in your intro, but when I was doing a little bit of research about you. I had to do a little bit for this episode, you have a bit of training in architecture and fashion design, is that right?

Yoriko: Yes.

Frenchie: Yeah. So, how do you feel that this particular training plays into your work in the fiber industry? If it does?

Yoriko: Well, being architect prepare me to manage projects. I think that's the best skill I learned, among other things. One of the best life skills I learned being an architect, because there's so many elements to design and build a building and there's so many things to be managed, quite often some things don't go well. Like, sometimes you have to go with plan B.

Yoriko: And, yeah. There's lots of stories. Like, architects don't like plan B and they just go nuts when something goes wrong, but to be realistic you have to accept that I think important thing is if the plan B is good. It may not be the perfect ... the way you imagined, but is this your good proper decision or solution.

Frenchie: Mm-hmm (affirmative). And how about fashion design? How do you see that playing ...

Yoriko: Fashion design. The design skill, or the design method. I started design collection of our colors last year and I having a lot of fun with it. And that is something I learned in design school. Quite often we feel like we have to start something we know, but something really good comes out if you just start with something totally different.

Yoriko: So, yeah, that's ... well, I really miss my design school days. It was so much fun.

Frenchie: Yeah. It's just really interesting talking to people who have started a career, have a career in the fiber industry, but they come from different ... not sure what the word is. Like, different paths?

Yoriko: Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Frenchie: Like, for example, in college I studies international relations and french and sometimes I think, "Oh my gosh. My degree is completely useless, because I'm doing something completely different." But then I start to really think about, "Okay. What are these other skills that I learned in my degree." Such as, learning how to write and writing. Doing a lot of writing.

Yoriko: Right.

Frenchie: Time management, and all that stuff. There's so many other skills that may not seem, on the surface, applicable to what we're doing as fiber artists. But, if you dig down under the surface a little bit ... like, with you and architecture, learning how to manage multiple projects and learning how to ... you know, plan A doesn't work, let's go to plan B. I think that's so important and really good skills to bring over into the fiber industry.

Frenchie: Yeah, for sure. Yeah. So, if whoever's listening and you're wanting to jump into the ... whether it's knitwear design or yarn dying or whatever it is that you want to do and you're just like, "I don't have a degree in this ... " You don't need to have a degree. This stuff can be learned and the things that you learn in your other careers and other degrees can be applied to the work that we do here.

Frenchie: 'Cause being business owners requires us to wear lots of hats and so we have to have lots of skills in order to do this.

Yoriko: Right. And being Japanese I believe that everything you go through has some meaning for your life. So, I did a lot of different things, but I have collected the skills I needed to do this along the way. So, I don't think anything was wasted.

Frenchie: I agree. Yeah, for sure. I'm totally along those same lines. Otherwise, if I think that things were wasted then it's just like I waste a lot of money on my college degree.

Yoriko: No. I don't think so.

Frenchie: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, let's shift gears a little bit and go back to your yarn dying.

Yoriko: Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Frenchie: So, let's talk a little bit about where you draw your color inspiration from.

Yoriko: You know what, Chelsea asked me the same question. You know, I get inspired by color, actually. Color, itself. Sometimes looking at the color, I find stories there. Like, "Hey, this color looks like that." Okay. I give you example. I haven't talk about this in [inaudible 00:18:36] yet. So this is the first time I talk about it.

Yoriko: The next collection with be peacock collection.

Frenchie: Peacock?

Yoriko: Peacock.

Frenchie: Oh my gosh. I cannot wait.

Yoriko: 'Cause, if you remember, I have two peacocks color in the January update.

Frenchie: Yes.

Yoriko: I have Midnight Peacock, which is a dark teal color. Peacock Queen which is a really bright teal color.

Frenchie: Yes.

Yoriko: And I think I still have one or two skein's in the shop. I have another one called Dusty Peacock, which is a gray, teal ... very light gray, teal color. So, anyways, looking at these peacock colors, I really liked it. And then I started searching for the images of peacocks on Pinterest, and then this memory came back to me.

Yoriko: My uncle, who used to work for city of Yokohama. He was a director of Yokohama Zoo for a few years. When I was in elementary school. And one year, he gave my sister and me this gift of peacock feathers. And they were just so beautiful. I'd never seen anything like that before, so I was so fascinated. And I say, "Well, I'd like to dye those colors." So, that's something I'll be working on next.

© Aroha Knits LLC Fibre Muse Podcast Season 2, Episode 3 Frenchie: Oh, that's really cool. Your inspiration for your Colour Ways come from color itself. Sometimes, some of my designs follow along that same line. Like, when somebody gives me a skein of yarn to work with, usually my source of inspiration comes from the skein of yarn, itself. Like, what colors are popping up, if it's variegated or semi-solid, I usually start playing a word associated game around that particular color and just see where it takes me. So, it's really interesting to know that you, as a yarn dyer, you also have the same concept. Or, at least, along the similar lines. The color, itself, inspires you.

Yoriko: Mm-hmm (affirmative). It does. And just, like, the colors have so many stories themselves.

Frenchie: Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Yoriko: And then I usually start that way and then I collect images. That's something quite often taught in fashion design school.

Frenchie: Oh. Like, mood boards?

Yoriko: Mood boards. Like, you collect images. Has to be images, cannot be words. That was the rule I had at the school. Yes. Like, mood boards making is so much easier now with internet.

Frenchie: With Pinterest, especially.

Yoriko: Yeah.

Frenchie: You can just make your own.

Yoriko: Like, when I was at the fashion design school there was no internet. We have to rip magazines for all the images.

Frenchie: Yeah.

Yoriko: Yeah. So, what was I talking about? So, I collect images.

Frenchie: Yeah. Mood boards. That's what we were talking about.

Yoriko: Right. And then I started building Colour Ways. Some will probably be variegated colors. And then those two peacock colors will go with them and I may introduce few more semi-solid colors to go along with them.

Frenchie: Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Yoriko: That's my plan.

Frenchie: Okay. Really cool. So, quick ... well, I guess, another question. I'm not sure they're actually quick. But, so, the yarns that you send to me ... for example, last year you sent me the Halloween collection and then you sent me the Lake collection, are those exclusive one-time Colour Ways or are they ... you plan on making them permanent in the shop? Do you know what I'm asking?

Yoriko: Yes.

Frenchie: Okay.

Yoriko: That's a good question. Should I?

Frenchie: I don't know.

Frenchie: Yeah.

Yoriko: But, what I'm thinking is, like, a Halloween set will be available only around Halloween.

Frenchie: Yeah.

Yoriko: Yeah. So, the selection of my shop is changing all the time as I feel like it.

Frenchie: Yeah.

Yoriko: So, yes. If you see something you like, buy it. [crosstalk 00:23:06]

Frenchie: Yeah. 'Cause it might never come back.

Yoriko: They may never come back.

Frenchie: Yeah. Because, for example, that Halloween Colour Way that you sent over to me ... when I handed it over to the yarn shop in here in Osaka, like, that thing sold out fast.

Yoriko: Yes. Overnight.

Frenchie: I was just like, "Wow."

Yoriko: Yeah. One night and then it's gone.

Frenchie: Wow. Yeah. Yeah. People, I think they're just really excited for what you have to offer. And, also, since you're a Japanese yarn dyer. I know of a few Japanese yarn dyer's ... I was gonna say Japanese yarn dyer's in Japan, but, I know of some yarn dyer's from Japan, here, but ... do you mind if we talk a little bit about the knitting community in Japan?

Yoriko: No. Go ahead.

Frenchie: Yeah. So, my experience with the knitting community in Japan's really limited due to my language skills, which are really bad. But you said ... obviously, you grew up in Japan. What was your experience with knitting in Japan like?

Yoriko: There was no community when I grew up. I learn how to crochet from my mom. And then I learn ... I taught myself how to knit from books. There was no community whatsoever appeared. Which is kinda sad. It's totally different now, right?

Frenchie: Yeah, there's definitely is a community in Japan, it's just that I'm not really well connected to it. But, there definitely is one now.

Yoriko: So, yeah. Well, I never had a ... well, maybe I could have gone to take classes. But, classes are not cheap in Japan. Especially when I was student. You know, it was quite expensive, right?

Frenchie: Yeah.

Yoriko: Yeah. I really don't have any memory of connecting with anybody through fiber arts in Japan, unfortunately.

Frenchie: It was mostly in Canada?

Frenchie: When you've made the trip back to Japan to visit your family have you tried reaching out to the knitting community there? Or do you just really focus your efforts on Canadian customers and US customers?

Yoriko: I like to reach out, but the things is, when I go back, my mother is getting old. Don't tell my mom. She's, oh, sorry. I'm sorry.

Frenchie: It's okay.

Yoriko: I got too excited. My mom is over eighty years old. She's still mobile, but she's getting a little tired and so when I go back I usually try to help her what she couldn't do by herself.

Frenchie: Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Yoriko: And she usually have a quite long list of them now. So, just, you know, taking care of things one by one. Usually, consumes my time so I really don't have time to go out and meet anybody. I don't even go visit my friends from high school or university anymore, either. So, going to Osaka to see you is pretty much the highlight of my trip to Japan, usually.

Frenchie: Oh, well thank you. Yes. Always so nice to be able to meet you in person when you come to visit. And you always bring a big bag of yarn, either for me to take photos or as a gift. And maple syrup.

Yoriko: And maple syrup, yes. How was the cookies?

Frenchie: Oh, it was really yummy, actually.

Yoriko: Good. Good. Thank you.

Frenchie: So, I guess, whenever I bring your yarn over to the yarn shop here, that's making that small connection happen for you in the Japanese knitting community, because I definitely think people here should know of your work as well and everybody else on a international scale. I think everybody should know of your work.

Yoriko: Right.

Frenchie: Touching a little bit more about the fiber community, but maybe on a more general scale, what is something that you love about it?

Yoriko: Fiber community?

Frenchie: Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Yoriko: People more caring. Like, a gift comes from the fact that we have to take care of details and then we care about work. We like to make it nice. So I feel that all the people I met through fiber arts is generally more caring about people as well.

Frenchie: Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Yoriko: And, you know, we get so excited about so silly things. Like, I was joking the other day, like, you know, it's [inaudible 00:27:58] in the room and we can talk about the breed of sheep for hours.

Frenchie: Yeah.

Frenchie: Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Yoriko: Yeah.

Frenchie: Yeah. I definitely find that to be very much ... like, in general, very much the case, too. We're very passionate about the things that we do.

Yoriko: Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Frenchie: However, in January, and if you're comfortable about talking about this ... if you're not then we can cut this out and stuff like that. But, definitely in January the whole topic of racism and discrimination popped up and stuff like that.

Yoriko: Yes.

Frenchie: What was your take on it, I guess?

Yoriko: Well, the first thing ... like, before I knew about it. Few people messaged me and like, "I hope you feel comfortable where you are." And I kinda felt like I'm a fraud, because all the [inaudible 00:28:56] or the heart wrenching stories I encounter on Instagram, like, I had nothing, pretty much.

Yoriko: Like, it's probably the fact is the reason is because I came to Canada as a grown up adult, so I didn't spend tender years against discrimination. And another thing is, the city I live in Canada is more than half Chinese. So the white people are minority here. Yes.

Yoriko: I know lots of white families avoid to live in city of Richmond where I am, because they don't want their kids around or by a Chinese kid. I know that for a fact. So, it doesn't mean that there is no discrimination, but it's not one sided. It's discussed on the internet more now. It's more multidimensional and it's more multifaceted.

Frenchie: It's very complex and nuanced.

Yoriko: It's very complex. I know in Japan the discrimination against foreigners are terrible sometimes.

Frenchie: Yeah.

Yoriko: It really, really ... like, my heart aches when I see those stories.

Frenchie: Yeah.

Yoriko: Because, bottom line, we are all humans, right?

Frenchie: Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Yoriko: You just try to make both ends meet every day. Why do we have to do that?

Frenchie: Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Yoriko: Can't we just understand each other? So, anyways, I never felt discriminated or got any racial comment inside the community in Vancouver. I feel very comfortable.

Frenchie: Good.

© Aroha Knits LLC Fibre Muse Podcast Season 2, Episode 3 Yoriko: Yes. But, if you feel like it doesn't exist, it does. So, just please open your heart. Because, it's not comfortable to talk about. But, I feel like learning is an opportunity to grow, personally. And I was, like, blamed in the past, several times as a Japanese ... just because I'm Japanese I'm a racist by other asian people. It was not a good feeling, so I understand that, too.

Yoriko: My worst experience ... I went to car dealership and wanted to buy a new car. I had enough money in the bank account, but they denied me to do test drive. And, I believe that's a racial motivated thing, because I can't really think of any other reason. It's strange [inaudible 00:31:53] for me, because I told them, "I'm looking for new car. I'd like to test drive this car." And what they said is, "You cannot test drive unless you have decided to buy."

Frenchie: But isn't test driving helping you decide to buy it or not?

Yoriko: Yeah, I know. That's what I thought, but I went to different place, so problem solved. Was okay.

Frenchie: And you got your car?

Yoriko: Yeah, I got my car. [inaudible 00:32:22].

Frenchie: Well, and let's start winding this down with one last question and that is ... what is one thing you hope your customers know about Fibre Art Studio?

Yoriko: What do they want ... what I want them to know about Fibre Art Studio? We are very friendly people. So, somehow, I don't know. Somehow, we don't feel like we are connected enough with [inaudible 00:32:55] customers. The reason, maybe being, we are at the tourist destination. And lot of people tend to avoid it, because they believe that parking is bad, which is not true as much as people think.

Frenchie: Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Yoriko: But, anyways, we practice fiber arts with a lot of fun. And we inspire each other, we encourage each other, and we like our customer to be part of our family.

Frenchie: I love that. Well, thank you so much, Yoriko, for coming on today to do this interview with me. I really appreciate it.

Yoriko: Oh, thank you so much, Frenchie, for having me.

Frenchie: Yeah. It's been great. Like I said, I just want people to know of your work and hopefully ... If this podcast is able to get people interested in your work then, "Yay." That would make me happy.

Yoriko: Oh, thank you.

Frenchie: So, where can people find you online? On social medias?

Yoriko: Okay. Our Etsy shop is probably easiest to find. That's Fiber Art Studio on Etsy. Fiber is spelled in British or Canadian way. So, instead of E-R, it's R-E at the end.

Frenchie: Yeah.

Yoriko: Fibre Art Studio. And all the links to our social media is on our webpage.

Frenchie: Cool. Awesome. Thank you so much, Yoriko.

Yoriko: Thank you, Frenchie.

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