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Wednesday Volume 662 26 June 2019 No. 320 HOUSE OF COMMONS OFFICIAL REPORT PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES (HANSARD) Wednesday 26 June 2019 © Parliamentary Copyright House of Commons 2019 This publication may be reproduced under the terms of the Open Parliament licence, which is published at www.parliament.uk/site-information/copyright/. 639 26 JUNE 2019 640 Hywel Williams (Arfon) (PC): How many Welsh House of Commons exporting manufacturers are moving workers to the EU27 to set up front offices, distribution centres and so forth, and what help are the Government giving them to Wednesday 26 June 2019 export Welsh jobs? The House met at half-past Eleven o’clock Alun Cairns: I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for providing me with the opportunity to highlight the Welsh economy’s export record. Exports are now at PRAYERS £17.7 billion—that is a 7.5% increase, which highlights how the Welsh economy is exporting strongly and at record levels. [MR SPEAKER in the Chair] Jeremy Lefroy (Stafford) (Con): As someone who started his working life at Ford in Bridgend, may I ask the Secretary of State what he is doing to ensure that Oral Answers to Questions high-quality, high-value manufacturing jobs are going to continue at that excellent site, which has such good rail and road connections? WALES Alun Cairns: I am grateful to my hon. Friend; with his local knowledge, having worked at the plant, he The Secretary of State was asked— truly understands the value of the skills that the people there bring. Those skills are a real incentive to attract Leaving the EU: Manufacturing further investment. Along with the Welsh Government, we have set up a joint taskforce that will be led by 1. Stephen Doughty (Cardiff South and Penarth) Richard Parry-Jones, an industry expert who is best (Lab/Co-op): What recent assessment he has made of placed to make recommendations to the Government. the potential effect on manufacturing in Wales of the We look forward to receiving that report shortly. UK leaving the EU without a deal. [911489] Christina Rees (Neath) (Lab/Co-op): Given the almost The Secretary of State for Wales (Alun Cairns): The daily news of business closures in Wales as a result of manufacturing sector is of vital importance to the Brexit uncertainty, and the real prospect of no deal, Welsh economy. The UK’s modern industrial strategy how can the Secretary of State justify his support for a plays a key part in supporting industry. We want to get candidate to be Prime Minister who is prepared to a deal with the European Union to give a smooth and sacrifice thousands of manufacturing jobs in Wales to orderly exit. further his own personal ambition? Does the Secretary of State think it is a “do or die” Brexit? Stephen Doughty: The Secretary of State says that he wants to get a deal, yet he is backing a candidate for the Conservative leadership who advocates no deal. With Alun Cairns: I am disappointed that the hon. Lady the news from Ford, Airbus, Honda and Nissan, and looks to undermine the Welsh economy. She needs to from so much of Welsh manufacturing industry and the recognise that unemployment is at record low levels, steel industry, how on earth can he, as Secretary of economic activity is at record high levels, exports are State, justify that position? Or is he simply trying to growing and manufacturing is prospering. When it comes keep his job? to Brexit, she also needs to recognise that when she voted against the deal on 29 March, she was the one Alun Cairns: The hon. Gentleman is highly selective who increased the prospect of no deal. in what he cites. If he heeds the calls of some of the employers he mentioned, he will know that they supported Christina Rees: The last thing I would do is undermine the deal that came before Parliament and urged him to Wales. I am proud of my country and I am proud to vote for a deal. By definition, his voting against the deal have represented Wales many times. When you pull on made no deal far more likely. that red jersey, Mr Speaker, there is nothing like it. Bob Blackman (Harrow East) (Con): Does my right I will try again: given the Secretary of State’s apparent hon. Friend agree that the opportunities for manufacturing support for a no-deal Brexit as a price worth paying to in Wales when we leave the European Union will be to keep his own job, what can he possibly say to people in supply the rest of the United Kingdom with goods and Wales who stand to lose their manufacturing jobs as a services? result of his Government’s catastrophic mishandling of the Brexit negotiations? Alun Cairns: My hon. Friend is absolutely right. Manufacturing in Wales is more productive than the Alun Cairns: I highlight the fact that manufacturing UK average, so is well placed to take the new opportunities is doing well in the Welsh economy, with 12,000 more both in the UK and globally that will arise as a result of manufacturing jobs in the economy now than there our leaving the European Union. Like both leadership were in 2010. There are now 4,000 more manufacturing candidates, I would prefer to have a deal than not to jobs in the Welsh economy than there were last year. have one. Manufacturing employers would like to see a deal with 641 Oral Answers 26 JUNE 2019 Oral Answers 642 the European Union; perhaps the hon. Lady should saying that we needed a deal. Now he has said recently explain why she has voted against a deal with the that we need to prepare for no deal. I must tell him that European Union. Furthermore, she needs to explain his comments have deeply concerned that chief why she is rejecting the will of the Welsh people, who executive officer. If we do end up with a no deal, what voted in stronger numbers than the UK average to leave would he say to him? the European Union. Alun Cairns: I want a deal with the European Union. EU Withdrawal Agreement: Welsh Economy I have voted for a deal with the European Union on three separate occasions. I suspect that the employer to 2. Geraint Davies (Swansea West) (Lab/Co-op): What whom the hon. Gentleman has spoken would have recent assessment he has made of the potential effect on supported a deal with the European Union. Perhaps he the Welsh economy of the withdrawal agreement on should have explained why he voted against that, because the future relationship between the UK and the EU. that has clearly increased the uncertainty, which is not [911490] good for anyone. He needs to look at himself and his colleagues and consider why they voted to block the deal. The Secretary of State for Wales (Alun Cairns): The Government are clear that the best outcome for Wales Glyn Davies (Montgomeryshire) (Con): Along with and the Welsh economy is that the UK leaves the the Secretary of State,I supported the withdrawal agreement European Union in an orderly manner with a deal. the three times it came before Parliament because of the That is why I voted for one on three separate occasions. impact that it will have on my constituency,and particularly on the sheep farming industry. Will the Secretary of Geraint Davies: The Secretary of State knows that, if State go to the Royal Welsh show and explain to the we stay within the EU, British people will get a 20% uplift farming unions that he, I and both of the candidates in structural funding to £440 per person. Will he ensure who might be Prime Minister are very supportive of that, in the event of our leaving with a deal, that money reaching a deal with the European Union that will is sustained completely with a new UK prosperity fund? protect the future of my constituency and the sheep If we have a no-deal outcome, there will, quite simply, farming industry in particular? be no structural funding and we will hit a cliff edge, and more firms like Tata, Airbus and Ford will leave on his Alun Cairns: I pay tribute to my hon. Friend for his watch. strong record in this area. Yes, I am looking forward to my visit to the Royal Welsh show. That will give me an Alun Cairns: I do not recognise any of the hon. opportunity to continue my ongoing proactive dialogue Gentleman’s comments. Let me ask him this one question: with the agriculture sector and with the farming unions does he recognise that Swansea voted to leave the European in particular. I have spoken to both leadership candidates, Union in higher numbers than the national average, and both recognise the importance of agriculture to the and, if so, why does he reject the will of his constituents? UK economy and the significance of the agriculture sector in Wales. They believe that it is best to leave the Stephen Crabb (Preseli Pembrokeshire) (Con): Many European Union with a deal, but will take positive steps Welsh businesses will be able to cope with a no-deal to protect those industries in the absence of a deal. Brexit, but one sector that the Secretary of State and I know will not be able to cope is sheep farming. Will he confirm whether he has had any discussions with the 14. [911502] John Mc Nally (Falkirk) (SNP): Brexit has Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural serious implications for Welsh farmers, with an average Affairs about an income protection measure or a of 80% of a farmer’s income in Wales coming from compensation package for hill farmers when their industry direct payments received through the EU’s common gets decimated under a no-deal Brexit? agricultural policy.