NOTICE OF PUBLIC MEETING STATE ATHLETIC COMMISSION COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES November 14, 2018 1:00 PM Public attendance available at: Oregon State Police Academy 4190 Aumsville Hwy SE, Salem, OR 97317

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Roll Call: Chairman, Dave Bishop Commissioner, Frank Silva Commissioner, Mike Kay Commissioner, Patty Nevue Associate Member, Bob Gross Associate Member, Ted Molinari

APPROVED AGENDA:

1. Call to Order (1:00 p.m.) Dave Bishop, Commission Chair Roll Call of Commissioners Trista Robischon 2. Approval of Proposed Agenda Dave Bishop, Commission Chair 3. Public Session a. Approval of Proposed Minutes – Sept. 19, 2018 Dave Bishop, Commission Chair b. Training Update

4. New Business: a. Financial Report Jodi Knutson b. Proposed OAR Changes Trista Robischon c. Association of Ringside Physicians Conference Trista Robischon d. Event Calendar Update Josi McDaniel

5. Public Comment * 6. Next Meeting Scheduled 7. Adjourn Dave Bishop, Commission Chair

*Please identify yourself and speak up when making public comment.

Meeting called to order by Chairman Dave Bishop at 1:03pm Roll Call: Chairman Dave Bishop: Present Commissioner Frank Silva: Present via phone Commissioner Mike Kay: Present via phone Commissioner Patty Nevue: Present Associate Member Bob Gross: Present Associate Member Ted Molinari: Not present

Dave Bishop: I entertain a motion to approve the agenda as presented. Bob Gross: So moved Patty Nevue: Second Unanimous Ayes Dave Bishop: I entertain a motion to approval the minutes. Frank Silva: So moved Bob Gross: Second Unanimous Ayes Dave Bishop: Training update Trista Robischon: At the least meeting we had talked about training in October or November here in Salem. We have since pushed that back to March and doing more ABC training and having ABC certified officials come in and work with our officials and have it open to the public as well. Coaches, trainers and competitors can all come and participate and learn how our judges and referees are taught. It will give the opportunity for that transparency that we show everywhere else. We don’t have an exact date yet because we are waiting for the availability from the trainers but as soon as we have that determined we will make sure to let everyone know so they can get signed up and participate in those trainings. This will give our current officials the ability to get ABC certified. Up until now we have been using Ipro certification but this will give us the opportunity to have some diversity in training with different people presenting. We are planning on doing both MMA and Boxing on different dates because it would be different trainers coming in. Dave Bishop: Financial Report Jodi Knutson: We currently have our actuals through the end of September. October closes this coming Friday. Revenue is $163,397 and the total expenses are $450,469. We are projecting the end of the biennium revenue of $238,147 and total expenses of $724,911. The first page shows you monthly and the actuals are through September and the projections for the remaining months. We are projecting to spend $485,600 of our general fund to make up for the cost over the revenue for OSAC. Dave Bishop: How does this compare to last year? Jodi Knutson: Last year was close to million that we had to pick up from general fund due to more staff. Trista Robischon: Also, along with the statute change that we went through on January 1st that we receive more money for the officials fees from the promoter than we have in the past. Dave Bishop: Any further questions on the financial? Hearing none I motion to approve as presented. Patty Nevue: So moved. Bob Gross: Second Unanimous Ayes Dave Bishop: Proposed OAR Changes Trista Robischon: We have few OAR changes that we’ll be looking for your approval on. This will go through the normal rule making process where we will publish it on the Secretary of State bulletin on the 1st of December and then notification goes out to all interested parties and licensees and then there will be a public hearing scheduled and then once that is all done any changes that have been made along the way will be sent out to everyone before it becomes permanent. Minimum of 49 days is what it takes. It gives everyone the opportunity to have input into the process. (All proposed rule changes are attached at the end of the minutes) The first one is on Transgender Athletes. It is not something we’ve had before and is a brand new rule. We used a lot of the information from . We’re following some of those industry leaders. In an effort to make sure we are maintaining the integrity of the competition, you’ll see that there is a lot of steps that go into determining what gender they would compete as. We also have the Therapeutic Use Exemption (TUE). We have not had that policy in our past either. That one basically sets the standard for our process in approving someone to be able to use substances that are currently WADA prohibited. In there, we did put that testosterone replacement therapy is not an option for exemption unless under the transgender category. We have a medical advisory committee that would work on that and we’ve been offered assistance by the Association of Ringside Physicians to work on that as well if we would need additional information for any appeals that may come up. Tom Smarioo(public in attendance): So you that would cover therapy for testosterone? Trista Robischon: Yes, the testosterone replacement therapy. Tom Smarioo: You check for that? Trista Robischon: We currently do random testing and we’re looking at expanding that. Currently the tests we do are for the drug s of abuse and if it’s tests positive then we send it off for further testing but we’re also looking at having tests that go automatically to the lab for competitors. Tom Smarioo: The reason I ask is because in MMA, I saw that rampantly abused everywhere. Everyone needed testosterone therapy. In three months they’d have acne all over their back and muscles that they never even knew they had. I’m glad you’re doing that. Trista Robischon: This is the first step. In January would be the 2nd step where a more comprehensive drug prohibited with WADA standards would be put into effect. This is our addition to that to allow for competitors who can get an exemption for that if it’s medically necessary but not performance enhancing. Patty Nevue: And you said this has all been drafted through the standards. Trista Robischon: I’ve looked at California and ’s, primarily, and drafted it through that in correlation with some of our physicians who have experience in that. Dr. deWeber, who works for us and also works with Washington, he does the Olympic testing and works for that committee and has experience in that which will help us in making it possible in Oregon. The next one is a change in the equipment section. A competitor came to us in boxing and our rules did not state that shoes were required. It says it in the unified rules but ours did not so we added boxing shoes as a requirement. The last one is weight classes for MMA. An amendment was made for those and is an addition. Finally, there were some suggestions by DOJ regarding our enforcement policies. There’ snot a lot of content but mainly just wording and fine tuning to that. I’ll put these in as in and if there are any amendments that need to be made we’ll go through the rule making process to make those. Josi McDaniel: All of these rule changes have been emailed to all of the commission members. Dave Bishop: Physician’s Conference Trista Robischon: At the end of October I went to for an Association of Ringside Physicians conference along with Dr. deWeber. It gave us a good opportunity to listen to all the presentations and work on some of the things we wanted to bring forward. We were able to talk more about the Transgender and the TUE process and a lot of the conference was focused on the concussion protocols and brain injury. Oregon was complimented by one of the doctors from who said he was very impressed with how much we’ve done in protecting the health and safety of competitors. We’ve implemented the same standards to amateurs as what we require for professionals. My thinking in doing that, along with other standards is that the amateurs should be protected as equally as the professionals. I was very happy with that and it gave us a great opportunity to work through some of those issues and it offered a lot of great knowledge about what is going on in the industry. Dave Bishop: Event Calendar Update Josi McDaniel: I didn’t print up a calendar because we only have one more event in the year and that is the Rumble 100 in Portland on December 22nd. It’s a pretty historic event for that promotion. We have already gotten a couple event applications for 2019. Two right now are for March 2nd but approval has not been granted yet due to a double event. One event application is for White Delight down in Central Point and the other event is the FCFF in Portland. Trista Robischon: We had Dave Bishop and Bob Gross in attendance at the WWE event in October. We got a tour and observed how they run the event. Mike Kay joined us in Klamath Falls to observe the MMA event promoted by Rogue Promotions. Patty Nevue: Have there been many changes in the amount of events happening? Bob Gross: How does this year stack up to years past? Trista Robischon: We are a little bit lower than what we have been in previous years. There have been a couple cancellations so I think last year we had 23 events and this year we’re at 20. Josi McDaniel: There hasn’t been a whole lot of difference. One thing was markedly different from last year is that May and September are pretty busy as far as having an event every weekend and this year we had a few cancel in September that brought it down to 20. Patty Nevue: Have they been the same promoters? Trista Robischon: Yes. We haven’t added any new promotions this past year. We did finally have an event for Brian Halquist promotions. He has been licensed for a long time but hadn’t had any events. It was the first event held at Seven Feathers in four or five years. It was nice to be back there. We’ve had conversations with a few other promoters who are interested in coming and starting promoting in Oregon. It doesn’t always come to fruition. You have those conversations but you just don’t know where it will go. Tom Smarioo: How many MMA events did you have this year? Trista Robischon: it would be easier to tell you how many boxing events we had. There were 3 boxing events and the rest were MMA events. Tom Smarioo: So you had 17 MMA events. And the Roseland, that’s Chael Sonnen correct? I was his cut man. Trista Robischon: I don’t have a current count on the number of entertainment events that we’ve had. Josi McDaniel: We have a couple promotions that do weekly shows and we have a couple who have a couple shows a month. All of them are very consistent in their dates. Blue Collar has an event every Sunday and WCWC usually has a school/training event and will do entire weekend events. Tom Smarioo: Do the wrestlers have the same requirements and drug testing as MMA? Trista Robischon: With entertainment wrestling, it is regulated differently. The promoter signs a health and safety affidavit that says they are responsible for the health and safety of the wrestlers. They are entertainers. Josi McDaniel: We don’t license the wrestlers at all. The promotion is in charge of them. They aren’t required to have the medicals done. It’s for entertainment and not for competition. Patty Nevue: With them under the umbrella of this organization what pieces do you monitor? Trista Robischon: We go to a couple events a year. If we have calls for concerns that are being brought up then we’d go more frequently. If they are doing something that is really unsafe or outside the scope of what they should be doing then we work with them to bring them back into compliance. If there are promoters who aren’t licensed that are doing events then we try to put a stop to that because it is important that they follow the same rules as the people who are doing it right and getting licensed. It’s on a much more limited. The backgrounds we do for the promotions are the same for boxing and mma. Josi McDaniel: Often times when we hear of events where promoters aren’t getting licensed it will be venues that will bring someone in not understanding that the promoters need to be licensed. In those cases, we will call the venues and advise them that it is an illegal event. That helps a lot with educating the public. Trista Robischon: When that happens, they will either cancel the event or the promoter will get licensed. Patty Nevue: Is it just random local fundraising events? Trista Robischon: Usually, yes. Dave Bishop: Public Comment will be limited to pertain to items on the agenda. Do we have any public comment? Fred Ryan: Well, if I bring up the thing, like the water bottle, you say we’ve already covered that but I like to keep an eye on the bottle and it’s very important. Dave Bishop: Let’s keep it to what is on the agenda. Fred Ryan: Do I have the floor? You said it was open discussion time. Dave Bishop: It is for any items on the agenda. If you have other questions, you can get with staff at your convenience. Fred Ryan: Water bottles are an extremely important aspect of our sport. Keeping your boxer from being poisoned is everything. Those little winky bottles get scattered everywhere and you can’t keep an eye on them. People are coming and going with them. I keep a water bottle, I brought one last time, that I can keep an eye on that. I’ve had boxers poisoned and it’s a lot more common than you think. I’m not going to put any juice or anything in there. I use distilled water and I advise all of you to drink nothing but distilled water. Trista Robischon: I want to make a comment that I had mentioned prior to us going active on our call, that I’ll be attending a professional boxing event in California at the beginning of December and that will give me a good opportunity to shadow the commission and see how they are doing things so we are in alignment with what’s being done industry wide. Not having a lot of boxing in Oregon, it will be a great opportunity to improve how we are do things. I will make sure that I’m watching for those things and asking questions. Fred Ryan: There is also a lot of confusion with boxing gloves and I suspect there is no one on this commission who knows how to adequately inspect boxing gloves prior to use. We were issued some gloves and for some mysterious reason they were extracted from our possession and they were replaced with a very inferior glove I thought was badly made. Also, commissioners do not seem to be able to properly tape the laces on the glove. I would recommend that the corner people be allowed to do this instead of this very harsh duct tape they are using. It was extremely difficult, almost impossible, to remove and had to be cut off. One other question, when you have a boxer who has a predilection to losing his mouthpiece, something we’ve used for years and years is a dental adhesive. Sprinkle it on and stick it in and that mouthpiece is going nowhere. Is that legal? Will that cause you to get your boxer disqualified? Trista Robischon: I haven’t been asked that question before. It’s one we can bring up in California too. Fred Ryan: Some time I wouldn’t mind bringing a war bag. It’s what a corner man uses to carry his hand wraps and his tape, swabs and what not. I can also bring one in from the 1930s so you can see what was used then and what is used now. We’re kind of limited on what we can use now and the costs have gone up drastically. Adrenaline chloride is extremely expensive and we’re mandated to have it and every event it’s $200. We used to be able to get it over the counter but now you need a prescription. Tom Smarioo: That brings me to a point. You need a prescription to buy this. Perhaps you can ask the folks in California or Nevada how they do it. How does your everyday cornerman or cut man get a prescription to buy adrenaline? Unless you know a doctor who is willing to do this for you, it’s nearly impossible. Now UFC, they supply this adrenaline to the cut man because they work for the organization and boxing everyone is an independent contractor. Maybe, you might throw this out there and see if the doctors who work for the commission can write a prescription or help these guys get adrenaline because otherwise it’s nearly impossible to get for the average citizen. Trista Robischon: Let me check on that. I’ve made several calls to different commissions who do a lot of boxing and have asked the question about whether they allow other coagulants. Tom Smarioo: Avetine and Thormbin Trista Robischon: Right. And the only one that I’ve found that allows anything other than those is Nevada and they allow a powder. It’s still something I’m looking at adding to ours. Dave Bishop: These are all questions that should be written down and talked to them about outside of this meeting. You’re tying up a lot of people that don’t have the answers. The purpose of public comment is for items on the agenda. We can’t just open it up to everyone’s world problems. Do we have anyone else on the phone? Fred Ryan: I wanted to say what they use in Mexico to seal cuts is cactus. Here’s my report. Trista Robischon: If we’re keeping this to the agenda, how about afterwards, if you have time to sit and talk we can do that. Fred Ryan: Well we spent a lot of time getting here and I have to open the gym in a little while. Dave Bishop: Ok. The next meeting. Mike Kay: I just want to compliment the crew that was down in Klamath Falls. They did a great job for an interesting venue. I want to give them a shout out for a job well done for a venue that was a little cool and had people on edge. My compliments to the crew that was down there. Dave Bishop: January 23rd works for everyone. I’d entertain a motion to adjourn. Bob Gross: So moved. Patty Nevue: Second Unanimous Ayes Dave Bishop: Now you can have some time to jot down some notes and keep in mind that they will be going with best practice and how that works with other states.