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Admiral Nimitz Historic Site National Museum of the Pacific War Center Admiral Nimitz Historic Site National Museum of the Pacific War Center for Pacific War Studies Oral History Program Fredericksburg, Texas An Interview with Mr. Carl I. Duncan United States Navy Served on USS Cotten DD669 Post War Japan Date of Interview: September 28, 2002 Admiral Nimitz Historic Site National Museum of the Pacific War Interview with Mr. Carl I. Duncan September 28, 2002 Mr. Metzler: This is Ed Metzler. Today is September 28, 2002. I am interviewing Mr. Carl Duncan. This interview is taking place in Fredericksburg, Texas, in support of the Center for Pacific War Studies, Archives for the National Museum of the Pacific War, Texas Parks and Wildlife, for the preservation of historical information related to this site. Mr. Duncan, let me first thank you for spending the time to give us your experiences during the Pacific War. I would like to start out by having you give us just a little bit of background information, when and where you were born, the name of your parents and brothers and sisters, and how you came to enter the armed services. Mr. Duncan: I was born in Marshall, Missouri, but grew up in Tulsa, Oklahoma. My parent’s names are Carl and Marguerite Duncan, I am Carl, Jr. Growing up in Tulsa, Oklahoma, I first had the exposure to World War II on December 7, 1941, when I was a sophomore in High School. I was in the living room with my parents listening to H. V. Kaltenborn on the radio and the news came across. We didn’t know what to think. Everybody in the room was kind of flabbergasted and not knowing where this all was going to lead. As for myself, being a sophomore in high school, I knew I had two more years there and I was not old enough or able to join but I was ready to go anyway. But never the less I had to wait until I graduated and then immediately entered the University of Tulsa and got actually two semesters in before I was eighteen years old and volunteered for the Navy, what was called the V-5 program at the time. I had ambitions of being a pilot flying off of an aircraft carrier after hearing all the news that was taking place in the Pacific, I thought that was for me. I was ordered to Central Missouri State University, Central Missouri State Teachers College, at that time, but they changed the name since, in Warrensburg, Missouri. I needed more college credits to qualif’ for aviation cadet. That was 1944, and the first part of ‘45. 1 was ready to go to flight school but they closed it down. They could visualize the war coming to an end, so they closed down the flight school and said we would get orders to go to the Midshipman’s School. One year later in February, 1945, 1 went to Columbia University Midshipman’s School in New York City. And that was where they produced all of us, what they called, “ninety-day wonders”. In my case, I countered by saying it was a wonder that I made it in ninety days. It was a pretty rigorous experience there both academic and physical, but I never will give anything for my experience. I will treasure that the rest of my life I guess, and I still do, to reflect back on the lessons that were pounded into me during that first exposure of a strict military assignment. The graduation when I got my commission, was July 5, 1945, and I was scheduled to go to PT boat school in Miami, Florida. They were about to close that too, and they really didn’t know what they wanted me to do. There had been quite a few of us in that category, and they sent us to Ft. Skyler, out in the Bronx to wait until they knew where to send us. But during my time at Columbia and shortly thereafter, I ended up right in the middle of the two biggest battles of the entire war, this is the story I always like to tell about my war experiences. Both battles took place, Times Square, V-E Day and V-J Day, both times. All my battle scars I can say came from Times Square. Those first experiences were memorable to say the least. Times Square was of course roped off. They had police and vehicles blocking every street that entered into Times Square. And it was just a mob of people all the way 42nd 51st from Street to And people just milling about, going in and out of the hotel bars and just generally partying, and celebrating. And that was pretty much the same on both occasions, V-E Day and V-J Day. Well right after that we were told that the PT Boat school that I was supposed to go to, was closing, so that option was out. The decision was made to send us out into the Pacific to replace some of the veterans who had been through the war and allow them to come home. They had enough points to get out, so off we went and my assignment was to the USS Cotten DD669, one of the Fletcher Class destroyers assigned to Admiral Bull Halsey’s Task Force. It was commissioned in 1943 and served the remainder of World War II and also the Korean conflict. My assignment was as assistant communication officer to replace one who had been through the war and allow him to come home. There were two ensigns actually, one other fellow besides me and we were flown out to Pearl Harbor to find out where the ship was. There was a lot of confusion because we couldn’t get a straight story about where it was. But it was finally located in Tokyo Bay. They had just signed the armistice so they put us on a merchant ship to go to Japan to join the ship. We went to 4th Maui to load some Marine Division supplies, to take to them. We got to Maui and 2 those orders changed. They decided they didn’t need all this equipment anymore. So they flew us back to Pearl and put us on another ship that was going to Japan. We finally got there right at the end of September, 1945. And we both went aboard, the fellows name was Roberts, Ensign Roberts, I don’t recall the first name. And there we were, brand new ensigns, bright shiny gold stripe on our sleeve, and all these old salts who had been through all the baffles since ‘43 anyway. I’ll never forget one little short Coxswain’s mate. He was a cocky little character, but everybody liked him. He called me a raw ass recruit (which I was) and I called him the boot, so we got along great. Mr. Metzler: What was his name? Mr. Duncan: Shorty Adkins. Mr. Mctzler: So this was in Tokyo harbor? Mr. Duncan: We were anchored off of Yokosuka at the time, and it was about a seven mile boat ride from where we anchored to get in. And of course being new, young and adventurous I wanted to see what was there. So I wanted to be on the first boat that went in after I got settled on board the Cotten. I will never forget, after the long ride in rough water, and I think everyone got seasick by the time we got in, but the Yokosuka Naval Base was all torn up, bombed, rubble. The piers and the docks were all gone and the boat we were on pulled up to a rocky destroyed dock and they let us out. And when we got up on the street level there was a whole bunch of eight or ten Japanese kids there with their hands out yelling.. Hubba, hubba, hubba. They learned that much English. They wanted candy of course, and we didn’t think to bring any in, so we didn’t have any to give them. That was the first word we heard entering Japan. Mr. Metzler: Hubba, hubba, hubba. Mr. Duncan: That was a saying back then. It was very commonly used. But here were all these Japanese soldiers sitting around the destroyed buildings and rubble. They were waiting, I guess waiting for orders to go home or something. They had been disarmed. I guess there were two or three thousand of them, just sitting around all over. 3 Mr. Metzler: What did they look like? What was their state? Mr. Duncan: The ones that were there were happy. They had their dark brown and green uniforms and typical Japanese Army uniforms and hats. They were curious watching us come in and walk ashore, and walk into what was left of the town. It wasn’t much. And we didn’t have a coimection or contact with them. They were just there, arid we walked on. But walking around, it was just amazing the destruction that there was. The whole town was just in rubble. Nothing, it was all gone. Mr. Metzler: When you say the town, you mean Yokosuka not Tokyo? Mr. Duncan: Yokosuka. So we just walked around then went on back to the ship in the harbor. But the next time in they were beginning to give us liberty, a little time off. And again, I like to sightsee and tour and so I did catch a train to Tokyo. They had some trains running, very primitive by our standards, but they were commuter trains and they were just mobbed with Japanese people coming and going.
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