Eighth Series, Vol. XXI No. 7 Wednesday, November 12,1986 Kartika 21, 1908 (Saka) LOK SABHA DEBATES (English Version) Seventh Session (Eighth Lok Sabha) ' (Vol. X X I contains Nos. 1 to 10) LOK SABHA SECRETARIAT NEW DELHI Price : R s. 6,00 •» ' It I . i ,*J f * r [Original English proceedings included in English Version and Original Hindi proceedings included in Hindi Version will be treated as authoritative and not the translation thereof.] CONTENTS No. 7, Wednesday, November 12, 1986/Kartika 21, 1908 {Saka) Columns Oral Answers to Questions— 1— 29 ^Starred Questions Nos. 121 to 125 and 128 * Written Answers to Questions— 29— 204 Starred Questions Nos. 126 to 127 and 129 to 140 29— 42 Unstarred Questions Nos. 1258 to 1321 and 1323 to 1397 42— 204 Papers Laid on the Table 212*—221 Message from Rajya Sabha 222 Dock Workers (Safety, Health and. Welfare) Bill—As Amended by 223 Rajya Sabha Committee on Private Members' Bills and Resolution 223 Twenty-fifth Report Election to Committee 223 Central Advisory Committee for National Cadet Cnrps... Business Advisory Committee „ 224 Twenty-Ninth Report Calling Attention to matter of urgent public importance 224 236 Reported fire in Sahar terminal of Bombay airport Shri Sharad Dighe ' 224 Shri Jagdish Tytler 225 Shri Haris Rawat 228 Dr. G. S. Rajhans 229 ^ Shri Jagdish Awasthi Shri Banwari Lai Purohit ’ 2^2 ♦The Sign + marked above the name of a Member indicates that the question was actually asked on the floor of the House by that Member, (ii) Columna Matters Under Rule 377 236— 240 (i) Need to start a new train from Kota or Ratlam to Delhi and to re-start Dehradun Express Shri Shanti Dbariwal 236 (ii) Need to declare the people of Ladakh region as Scheduled Tribe Sliri P. Namgyal 236 (iii) Preventive steps needed to save Lakshadweep from the menace of sea erosion Shri P. M. Sayeed 237 . (iv) Demand for T. V. Relay Centres at Damoh and Panna districts of Madhya Pradesh Shri Dal Chancier Jain 238 (v) Need to take immediate steps for the development of Paradeep Port. * Shri Brajamohan Mohanty 238 (vi) Need for organising voluntary consumer efforts to protect them from unhealthy trade practices Shri Satyendra Narayan Sinha 239 (vii) Need to release grants by University Grants Commissions to Vidyasagar University, Midnapur in West Bengal Shri Sudhir Roy 239 (viii) Need to help the State of Tamil Nadu to augument the generation of Thermal Power Shri P. Kolandaivelu 240 Delhi Fire Prevention and fire safety Bill— Contd. 240__292 Motion to consider Shri Somnath Rath 240 Shri Raj Kumar Rai 243 Shri V. S. Krishna Iyer 246 Shri Shanti DhariwaJ 249 (Hi) * Columns Shri Ataur Rehman 251 i Shri Mool Chand Daga v 253 Shri Indrajit Gupta 259 Shri Vijay N. Patil 264 Shri Matilal Hansda 267 Shri Dharam Pal Singh Malik 268 Shri Mohd. Mahfooz Ali Khan 272 Shri K. S. Rao , 273 Shri Piyus Tiraky 276 Shri Shaotaram Naik 277 Shri V. Sobhanadreeswara Rao 280 Shri Chintamani Panlgrahi 282 Clauses 2 to 16 and 1 Motion to Pass Shri Chintamani Panigrahi 291 Supplementary Demands for Grants (Railways), 1986-87 292— 315 Shri Bhattam Srirama Murty 293 Shri Uma Kant Mishra 300 Shri Vakkom Purushethaman 303 Shri V. S. Krishna Iyer 307 Shri Jujhar Singh 310 Shri M. Mahalingam 312 Half-an-hour Discussion * 315 332 Loss incurred by Hindustan Paper Corporation Ltd. Shri Suresh Kurup 315 Prof. K. K. Tewary 319 Shri Virdhi Chander Jain 327 Shri V. Sobhanadreeswara Rao 327 Shri Harish Rawat 328 Dr. G. S. Rajhans 329 LOK SABHA DEBATES i LOK SABHA DR. G. S. RAJHANS : Mr. Speaker, Sir, the reply is incomplete. We want to know the complete details of the Agreement. Besides, we also want to know whether such Wednesday, November, 12, 1986/Kartika agreements have been signed with other 21, 1908 (Saka) countries also and if so, the details thereof ? The Lok Sabha met at Eleven o f the Clock. SHRI BHAJAN LAL : Agreement with Federal Republic of Germany was signed in [MR. SPEAKER in the Chair) March, 1985. Under that Agreement, they supplied us instruments worth Rs. 162 lakhs. [English] Besides, the personnel in the batches of 8 persons each go there for training for a period Agreement with F. R. G. to augment of six months. These 8 people include 4 anti-pollution facilities scientists and 4 other personnel. The entire expenditure on their training is borne by that *121. DR. G. S. RAJHANS : country. 20 officers also go for training for SHRI MATI PRABHAWATI a period of 15 days. At the same time, one GUPTA : of their officers, who is an eminent expert will also come to India for three years. He Will the Minister of ENVIRONMENT is already here. They give us complete AND FORESTS be pleased to state : information and tell us how to control pollu- tion. In addition to this, officers in small (a) whether any agreement has been batches will go for training for a short period reached with the Federal Republic of Ger- during the next five jears, i.e. for sixty many for augmenting the existing water and month§ so as to gain complete knowledge air pollution monitoring facilities in the there. country; The Hon. Member has also asked the (b) if so, the details of the agreement; names of the other countries with which such and agreements have been signed. An agreement was signed with the countries of E. E. C.t (c) the methods to be adopted to control i.e., the European Economic Community in water and air pollution ? 1 983. Similarly, an agreement was also signed with Britain in 1 983 so that they [Translation] could be helpful to us in controlling air pollution and could also give us the training THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT programme. Since this problem is worldwise, AND FORESTS (SHRI BHAJAN LAL) : U. S. A. and Norway have also shown (a) Yes, Sir. interest in it. This is not a question of any single country Thus, these are the countries (b) The Agreement provides for import with which we have signed agreements. of sophisticated instruments and training of personnel to strengthen the capabilities of DR. G. S. RAJHANS : Mr. Speaker, Sir, Pollution Control Boards. the Hon. Minister might have read recently that there has been dangerous pollution in (c) The methods include monitoring, Rhine ri\er as a result of which fhousands of persuasion, incentives and legal action, fish were killed. They could not control that. 3 Oral Answers NOVEMBER 12, 1986 Oral Answers 4 . Such pollution lakes place daily between about 40 to 50 per cent pollution is caused Patna and Bhagaljmr. I would like to know by them. The vehicles which play on the whether we have signed agreements to control roads, such as buses, trucks and other pollution with other countries of western vehicles emit heavy smoke. If a silencer Europe also ? measuring 8 to 10 feet is attached to a vehicle of the same height, at least smoke will go upwards. We are thinking in terms SHRI BHAJAN LAL : It is true that of introducing battery —run vehicles so as to there are 14 such rivers in our country, the minimise pollution, waters of which are polluted and it does affect the health of the people. Right now, we have started with Ganga and we are SHRI V. TULSIRAM : I would like to going to draw up a project after formally know from the Hon. Minister as to which of surveying all the rivers. You know, as and the States of the Indian Union shall be when funds are made ava-lable, we shall covered under the agreement that has been implement that project. It will require an signed and whether the name of Andhra amount of Rs. 3000 crores to clean all the Pradesh is also there ? If so, how much rivers. money have you earmarked for that State ? MR. SPEAKER : Are you satisfied Secondly, I would like to say that felling now ? of trees also adds to pollution. I would like to know as to how much funds have been SHRIMATI PRABHAWATI GUPTA: provided in the Seventh Five Year Plan for Mr. Speaker, Sir, the Hon. Minister has tree plantation in the country and what is given a detailed reply and has also reFerred Andhra Pradesh’s share in it ? to a long-term plan, but is he aware that besides air pollution and water pollution, SHRI BHAJAN LAL : This is a separate foodgrains are also being polluted due to question. But so far as the question of tree excessive use of pesticides which is a health plantation is concerned, the policy of the hazard ? Air pollution has reached such a Central Government is very clear, that as level that mosquitoes have established mono- long as we do not plant trees, the environ- lithic empire right from the country’s ment will not be clean. An amount of Rs. capital, Delhi, upto the towns and villages 1900 crores has been provided in the and virus borne diseases are spreading, the Seventh Plan for various such items which people are sick in every home. I would like include rural development, wild life as also to know as to what steps the Government tree plantation, are taking to check this pollution and are there some short-term schemes with the Govern- ment besides the long-term plan ? I would [English) also like to know as to what work the Ganga Pollution Control Board has done to clean Vienna conference of IAEA this river ? * 122. SHRI AN AND SINGH: Will SHRI BHAJAN LAL : What the Hon.