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CONFIRMED ACWM (15) 06 MINUTES OF AUDIENCE COUNCIL WALES MEETING Held on Friday 18 September 2015, BBC Broadcasting House, Cardiff. Present: Elan Closs Stephens (Chair) Trust Member for Wales Carol Adams Joni Ayn Alexander Louise Casella Rhian Connick Rhys Davies Ryan Davies Owen Derbyshire Andrew Jones Catrin Lewis Ian Stevens Ceri Stradling In attendance from the Trust Unit: Karl Davies Chief Adviser Wales Bronwen Roscoe Lead Adviser - Public Service Policy Governance Coordinator and Secretary to Siôn Brynach BBC Audience Council Wales Janet Davies Departmental Assistant From the BBC Wales Executive (agenda items 53-63): Rhodri Talfan Davies Director, BBC Cymru Wales Adrian Davies Head of Content, English Rhys Evans Head of Strategy and Digital Siân Gwynedd Head of Content, Welsh Mark O’Callaghan Head of News and Current Affairs Lowri Rhys Davies Project Lead Patagonia 150 (for item 63) Suzanne Hay Head of Partnerships and Learning, BBC National Orchestra of Wales(for item 63) Michael Garvey Director BBC National Orchestra of Wales (for item 63) 1 CONFIRMED ACWM (15) 06 54 APOLOGIES, ANNOUNCEMENTS AND DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST 54.1 There were no apologies or declarations of interest. 55 APPROVE MINUTES OF 3 JULY 2015 ACW MEETING AND ANY MATTERS ARISING 55.1 The minutes were agreed as a true and accurate record of the meeting. There were no matters arising. 56 DISCUSSION ON THE BBC CHARTER RENEWAL. 56.1 The Council discussion occurred with reference to five of the key questions asked by the UK Government in its consultation on the Green Paper it published in July: - How can the BBC’s public purposes be improved so there is more clarity about what the BBC should achieve? - How well is the BBC serving its domestic and international audiences? - Does the BBC have the right genre mix across its services? - Is the BBC’s content sufficiently high quality and distinctive from that of other broadcasters? What reforms could improve it? - How could the BBC improve engagement with licence fee payers and the industry, including through research, transparency and complaints handling? 56.2 The Council was updated on the developments thus far, following the publication of the UK Government Green Paper in July. Members emphasised that despite the paucity of details on Governance in that document, it was inconceivable that there should not be a representative body in Wales as a part of any future governance structure for the BBC. The Council emphasised that the current Ofcom model was not suitable for a variety of reasons. The Council also said that it was essential that any representatives or advisory body in Wales should continue to express views on the entire gamut of the BBC’s output in Wales – both the national Wales output and UK-wide Network output. It was also key that the advice given was not just heard but acted upon. It felt that it was essential that any successor body to the Audience Council Wales should continue to directly engage with audiences, but that an additional mechanism that would permit feed-back on how the BBC had responded to points raised by audience members should also be proposed. 2 CONFIRMED ACWM (15) 06 56.3 The Council felt strongly that the any ‘market failure model’ for the BBC during the next Charter period should be completely rejected. It was clear that while audiences in Wales continued to enjoy the wide range of output broadcast on the BBC’s radio and TV UK-wide network, a priority was a proper broad national TV service for Wales within the current channel provision. The current somewhat nebulous BBC proposals for the Nations should be strengthened, especially in the light of the concerns associated with the further budget cuts envisaged as a result of the Licence Fee settlement agreed for 2017-2022. 56.4 The Council supported the proposal to reword the BBC Public Purposes and said that the current BBC Trust process of reviewing services had worked well. However, it proposed that in addition to the current procedures a new mechanism should be established to measure the success or failure of the BBC in fulfilling those purposes, and in implementing the recommendations of Service Reviews. It proposed that a Service Licence for Wales should be introduced, so that the performance of the entire range of BBC output consumed in the nation could be considered. 56.5 The Council felt it important that the Licence Fee should be retained as the most effective means of funding the BBC but that the public should be made far more aware of the way in which that income was spent by the BBC – possibly through an e-mail, directly to Licence Fee payers, with a report along similar lines to those produced by Local Authorities outlining Council Tax spend. 56.6 The Council emphasised that what it heard from audiences time and again at its outreach events was that the public expected the BBC to provide something for everyone, but that it expected that content to be of a high quality including news, drama and coverage of international, UK-wide, national and local issues. Above all they wanted to see themselves portrayed and the good to be popular and the popular good. 56.7 The Council expressed its disappointment that the DCMS’ advisory group on the renewal of the BBC Charter had no representation from any of the UK’s nations other than England, and its disappointment that the licence fee settlement had taken place independently of the Charter renewal discussions. 56.8 It was agreed that BBC Trust staff would prepare a draft submission from ACTION: the Council, and would circulate this for comments via e-mail. Since the KD time before the submission deadline was so short, members were reminded of the need to respond with alacrity with any comments once the draft submission had reached them. 57 DISCUSSION ON THE TRUST SERVICE REVIEW OF THE NATIONS RADIO AND NEWS SERVICES WITH REFERENCE 3 CONFIRMED ACWM (15) 06 TO REPORTS FROM OUTREACH EVENTS HOSTED BY THE COUNCIL DURING JUNE, JULY AND EARLY SEPTEMBER. 57.1 The Council was informed that the formal launch of the Service Review was ACTION: SB now scheduled for November and the Council agreed that it would be helpful for comments relevant to scoping the Terms of Reference of this Service Review to be prepared as a report, agreed via e-mail by members and submitted to the Trust Unit’s Service Review Team. 58 DISCUSSION REGARDING BBC TRUST CONSULTATION REGARDING THE PVT PROVISIONAL CONCLUSIONS ON BBC THREE AND ASSOCIATED PROPOSALS 58.1 The BBC Trust’s Lead Adviser, Public Service Policy, reminded the Council of the provisional conclusions reached following the Public Value Test which included, for BBC Three, the imposition of conditions, including a requirement that all long-form programmes also air on BBC One or BBC Two, a commitment to nurturing new talent and programming as well as implementing a well-managed transition of BBC Three to the on-line sphere rather than a situation which saw the TV channel cease abruptly. 58.2 She informed members that while the BBC One+1 proposals had attracted support during the public consultation, the Trust had concluded provisionally that it could have a negative impact on the market (as per Ofcom’s MIA). Its provisional decision therefore was to reject the proposals. Technical issues also meant that around 24% of UK television households would have to purchase new equipment in order to access the service. Because of this, there was inadequate evidence that it would in fact benefit the target audience identified by the BBC in its proposals and the Trust therefore provisionally rejected the proposals. 58.3 The Trust had however agreed to the proposal to extend the hours of CBBC since it recognised the need to help manage the transition of young viewers from Cbeebies to CBBC and try and stem the general decline in their viewing. CBeebies’s schedule would remain unchanged. 58.4 In discussing its submission to the consultation – which closed at the end of September – the Council considered that the importance of BBC Three’s Sixty Second News should be re-emphasised since it regularly heard from younger audiences that it was often the only formal news output accessed by them, and was often a portal to further exploration on-line of particular news stories. 58.5 The Council also asked for its concerns that possible clashes could occur ACTION: SB between nations opts programmes, and the schedule slots proposed for content that was currently on BBC Three to be included in its submission. It was agreed that BBC Trust staff would prepare a draft submission from the Council, and would circulate this to members for comments via e-mail. 4 CONFIRMED ACWM (15) 06 59 NATIONAL TRUSTEE’S REPORT 59.1 The National Trustee informed Council members about some of the events and developments that had occurred since its last meeting in July. These included the publication of the UK Government’s Green Paper on BBC Charter renewal, the Licence Fee settlement and the publication, on 9th September, of the BBC management’s proposals for the next Charter period. During the past few days, the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport had also announced that a review would be undertaken by David Clementi of the BBC’s current governance structure. The Council agreed that there were clear opportunities as well as threats to broadcasting in Wales within the BBC Charter review process. 60 DIRECTOR WALES REPORT 60.1 Director Wales began by paying tribute to former Controller BBC Wales, Geraint Stanley Jones, who had died recently, and whom he said had been a source of regular encouragement to him.