Minutes of BBC Audience Council Wales Meeting
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CONFIRMED ACWM (15) 08 MINUTES OF AUDIENCE COUNCIL WALES MEETING Held on Friday 13 November 2015, BBC Broadcasting House, Cardiff. Present: Elan Closs Stephens (Chair) Trust Member for Wales Carol Adams Joni Ayn Alexander Louise Casella Rhian Connick Owen Derbyshire Rhys Davies Andrew Jones Catrin Lewis Ceri Stradling In attendance from the Trust Unit: Karl Davies Chief Adviser Wales Tristan Pedelty Head of Policy Governance Coordinator and Secretary to Siôn Brynach BBC Audience Council Wales Janet Davies Departmental Assistant Jennifer Spence Work Experience Placement From the BBC Wales Executive (agenda items 82-85): Rhodri Talfan Davies Director, Wales (items 82-84) Adrian Davies Head of Content, English Siân Gwynedd Head of Content, Welsh Head of News and Current Affairs Mark O’Callaghan (items 82-84) Rhys Evans Head of Strategy and Digital (items 82-84) Neil Land Chief Adviser & Business Manager, BBC Sport (for item 85) 78 APOLOGIES, ANNOUNCEMENTS AND DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST 1 CONFIRMED ACWM (15) 08 78.1 Apologies were received from Ryan Davies and Ian Stevens. There were no declarations of interest. 79 APPROVE MINUTES OF 16 OCTOBER 2015 ACW MEETING AND ANY MATTERS ARISING 79.1 The minutes were agreed as a true and accurate record of the meeting and members were updated on the action points in those minutes. 80 DISCUSSION ON THE BBC TRUST SERVICE REVIEW OF NATIONS RADIO, TV AND NEWS SERVICES. 80.1 Those members of the Council who had assisted with hosting the audience event in Aberystwyth the previous Monday evening updated other members on some of the key points that had arisen during the discussion. The two key points raised had been the paucity of attention to Wales in BBC Network News output and the lack of comparative pieces on policy positions in the UK’s different nations. The lack of portrayal of Wales on Network commissioned drama had also been raised, which was at odds with the excellent S4C/BBC Cymru Wales commissioned Y Gwyll/Hinterland, which participants felt had put Ceredigion on the map 80.2 In discussing the BBC’s national radio stations, it had become apparent that awareness of BBC Radio Wales as the national English language radio station for Wales was low, and the Council asked whether this inadequacy was one of the outcomes of the BBC’s continuous cost saving of recent years. Even those who were aware of the station felt on occasion that it fell between two stools in trying to be both a national station, but also encouraging a local feel. Some fans of the local commercial radio station, Radio Ceredigion, identified the station’s adverts for local businesses as being the key attraction of the station, alongside that station’s music output. 80.3 The Council also reflected on audience views about whether BBC Radio Wales had too many phone-ins in its output, with people saying that the same voices heard often in these programmes – and that they considered that those voices were ill-informed ones on the whole. 80.4 The Council resolved that it should discuss its draft submission to the current Service Review at its December meeting, and invite the Editors of Radio Cymru and Radio Wales to join members at that meeting for a discussion on the key challenges facing both radio stations. 81 DISCUSSION ON BBC CHARTER RENEWAL 81.1 Tristan Pedelty, BBC Trust Head of Policy, updated members on the BBC Charter renewal process thus far and informed them that the UK Government consultation on its BBC Charter Renewal Green Paper had attracted 180,000 responses. The Trust had undertaken its own consultation and the key insight from that research had been that audiences 2 CONFIRMED ACWM (15) 08 wanted the BBC to stay broadly the same – to continue informing, educating and entertaining audiences. 81.2 The remaining months of 2015 would be a period for continuing to gather the views of audiences while the spring of 2016 would see the focus move to specific proposals. 81.3 The Council expressed the view that governance and regulation were key issues in the Charter Review process and that it was vital that any future structure ensured the views and voices of audiences were heard, since it was the qualitative audience outreach activity of the Audience Councils that often informed the quantitative research work commissioned by the BBC Trust. It was also vital that each of the UK’s 4 nations was properly represented in any future governance structure. 81.4 The Council said that it appeared that there were four key issues that had begun to emerge – news, and the extent to which the BBC’s news services reflected local, national, UK-wide and international news; portrayal of the UK as a whole in commissioned content; indigenous minority language provision; and governance and regulation. While the remarkably strong response to the DCMS consultation demonstrated the importance of the BBC to the population, it was important to remind audiences that discussions remained on-going and that people should continue to contribute to the debate on the future of the BBC. 81.5 The Council was informed that the independent Clementi Review of the BBC’s Governance had been commissioned by the DCMS and was scheduled to report in February 2016. The Council said that it was important for the diversity of Audience Council membership to be retained, so as to reflect the diversity of audiences, while also acknowledging that the weakness of Audience Councils in the current model was the absence of direct ‘levers’ for the Council to influence change arising from audience outreach activity. It said that it would be good therefore if there could be a strengthening of governance arrangements within each of the four nations in the next Charter period. 82 NATIONAL TRUSTEE’S REPORT 82.1 The BBC National Trustee for Wales informed Council members that the previous month had been exceptionally busy and made reference to the Trust’s Charter Review Seminar in Wales on 20 October and the IWA Media Summit on 11 November. Her appearance alongside the BBC Chairman before the National Assembly’s Communities, Equalities and Local Government Committee on 12 November had been a useful occasion to answer questions and to discuss Charter Renewal with elected members. The portrayal of Wales on Network Drama and Comedy and English language programmes for audiences in Wales featured as major issues on all three occasions. 3 CONFIRMED ACWM (15) 08 82.2 She informed the Council that she would be meeting a group of the Lords from Wales at the House of Lords on November 25, which would be another opportunity to discuss Charter Renewal. 83 DIRECTOR WALES REPORT 83.1 Director Wales informed Council that he had been invited to appear before both National Assembly and UK Parliamentary committees during the coming months, and that through such discussions, the issues relating to Charter Review in relation to the nation was becoming clearer – including portrayal of Wales – but that work was still underway in terms both of identifying how the BBC should respond to them, and how those solutions could be funded. 83.2 The latest RAJAR figures had been published recently and work was continuing to identify how the listening figures for both Radio Cymru and Radio Wales could be improved, with the Council being promised further analysis of the data at its December meeting. 83.3 The coverage of the BBC National Orchestra of Wales tour in Patagonia had been superb and it was clear that the Orchestra’s tour was having a huge impact on the local population, with the concert in the Trelew wool warehouse, which the Council had heard about in its September meeting, having been particularly moving and memorable. 83.4 The Director paid tribute too to the BBC Wales Sport team, whose coverage both of the recent Rugby World Cup tournament and the Wales football team’s success in reaching the Euro 2016 tournament finals, had been fantastic, despite not having the broadcasting rights for either. The BBC Wales programme on Nigel Owens, the referee in the Rugby World Cup final between New Zealand and Australia, broadcast a few days before that match had attracted a consolidated audience of close to 800,000. 83.5 The Council was informed that it was BBC Children in Need day, and that the money distributed in Wales made a huge difference in terms of helping children in Wales. 84 TV PERFORMANCE REPORT 84.1 Director Wales began by making reference to the latest series of Doctor Who, whose early programmes had been scheduled at the same time as key Rugby World Cup matches and so had attracted lower than expected audiences. It remained the case that Doctor Who was amongst the most valuable of the BBC’s brands. 84.2 BBC Wales Today continued in excellent health and was clearly holding its own in audience terms. The weekly reach of BBC One and BBC Two in Wales had also remained consistent, as had the average reach of S4C. 4 CONFIRMED ACWM (15) 08 84.3 Turning to the future, the Council asked about the programmes currently in production or recently commissioned that would be broadcast during late 2015 and 2016. It was told that crime drama Hinterland was likely to be broadcast on BBC Wales around the Christmas and New Year period and that an education season was planned for early 2016, with a follow-up Young, Welsh and Skint planned later in the year. A number of programmes were planned to mark the centenary of the 1916 Battle of the Somme and a programme to mark the 50th anniversary of the Aberfan disaster.