CRAMBA 2020 Trail User Survey
Q1 How do you use trails?
Answered: 209 Skipped: 0
Biking (All 9999...5522%% Types) 9999..5522%%
Walking / 4488...3333%% Hiking 4488..3333%%
Trail Running 11177...2222%%
Cross-Country 11166...7755%% Skiing 1166..7755%%
Snowshoeing 11144...3355%%
Other (please 111...99111%% specify) 11..9911%%
Horseback Riding
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ANSWER CHOICES RESPONSES
Biking (All Types) 99.52% 208
Walking / Hiking 48.33% 101
Trail Running 17.22% 36
Cross-Country Skiing 16.75% 35
Snowshoeing 14.35% 30
Other (please specify) 1.91% 4
Horseback Riding 0.00% 0 Total Respondents: 209
# OTHER (PLEASE SPECIFY) DATE 1 Bird watching 2/2/2020 8:51 PM
2 Mountain biking 1/31/2020 3:02 PM
3 Inline Skating 1/30/2020 7:58 PM
4 Hunting and snowmobiling 1/30/2020 12:58 PM
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Q2 What kinds of trails do you use?
Answered: 209 Skipped: 0
Single Track 9999...5522%%
Two Track / 88111...8822%% Double Track... 8811..8822%%
Multi-Use 8833...7733%% Paths (Rail... 8833..7733%%
Bike Parks 3366...8844%% (Ray's MTB... 3366..8844%%
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ANSWER CHOICES RESPONSES
Single Track 99.52% 208
Two Track / Double Track / Fire Roads 81.82% 171
Multi-Use Paths (Rail Trails, Bike Paths) 83.73% 175
Bike Parks (Ray's MTB Park, Dirt Jumps, Skills Areas, Skate/Bike Parks) 36.84% 77 Total Respondents: 209
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Q3 Which Southeast Michigan trails have you visited within the last year?
Answered: 208 Skipped: 1
Addison Oaks 8899...4422%%
Stony Creek 8877...5500%% Metropark 8877..5500%%
River Bends 88111...2255%% Park 8811..2255%%
Bald Mountain 7766...4444%% North 7766..4444%%
Clinton River 7744...0044%% Trail 7744..0044%%
Paint Creek 7733...0088%% Trail 7733..0088%%
Bloomer Park 7700...6677%%
Pontiac Lake 6644...4422%% Recreation Area 6644..4422%%
Macomb Orchard 6644...4422%% Trail 6644..4422%%
Clinton River 66111...5544%% Park Trails 6611..5544%%
DTE Energy 66111...5544%% Foundation... 6611..5544%%
Bald Mountain 5544...3333%% South 5544..3333%%
Island Lake 5522...4400%% Recreation Area 5522..4400%%
Polly Ann Trail 44111...3355%%
Lakeshore Park 3399...4422%% (Tree Farm) 3399..4422%%
Holdridge 3388...4466%% (Holly... 3388..4466%%
Highland 3377...5500%% Recreation Area 3377..5500%%
Potawatomi 3344...6622%%
Maybury State 33111...7733%% P k 3311..7733%%
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3 . 3% Park 3311..7733%%
Brighton 3300...7777%%
Metro Parkway 2233...5566%% Trail 2233..5566%%
Milford Trail 2200...6677%%
Orion Oaks 11188...7755%% County Park 1188..7755%%
Hickory Glen 11155...3388%% Park 1155..3388%%
Wilderness 11133...4466%% Loop (Holly... 1133..4466%%
Kensington to 11133...4466%% Proud Lake... 1133..4466%%
West 11122...9988%% Bloomfield... 1122..9988%%
Proud Lake 11122...0022%% Recreation Area 1122..0022%%
Hines Park 11100...5588%%
Lake Orion 99...11133%% High School 99..1133%%
The Foundation 88...11177%% Trail at Hol... 88..1177%%
Seven Lakes 55...7777%% State Park 55..7777%%
Heritage Park 44...88111%%
Settlers Park 44...3333%%
Wadhams to 44...3333%% Avoca Trail 44..3333%%
Lapeer Oakdale 33...3377%% Trails 33..3377%%
Rouge Park 22...8888%%
Ruby 111...9922%% Campground 11..9922%%
Hewen’s Creek 111...9922%%
Columbus
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Columbus 111...4444%% County Park 11..4444%%
Rolling Hills 111...4444%%
Sharon Mills 00...4488%%
Olson Park
Morton-Tayloy
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ANSWER CHOICES RESPONSES
Addison Oaks 89.42% 186
Stony Creek Metropark 87.50% 182
River Bends Park 81.25% 169
Bald Mountain North 76.44% 159
Clinton River Trail 74.04% 154
Paint Creek Trail 73.08% 152
Bloomer Park 70.67% 147
Pontiac Lake Recreation Area 64.42% 134
Macomb Orchard Trail 64.42% 134
Clinton River Park Trails 61.54% 128
DTE Energy Foundation Trail 61.54% 128
Bald Mountain South 54.33% 113
Island Lake Recreation Area 52.40% 109
Polly Ann Trail 41.35% 86
Lakeshore Park (Tree Farm) 39.42% 82
Holdridge (Holly Recreation Area) 38.46% 80
Highland Recreation Area 37.50% 78
Potawatomi 34.62% 72
Maybury State Park 31.73% 66
Brighton 30.77% 64
Metro Parkway Trail 23.56% 49
Milford Trail 20.67% 43
Orion Oaks County Park 18.75% 39
Hickory Glen Park 15.38% 32
Wilderness Loop (Holly Recreation Area) 13.46% 28
Kensington to Proud Lake Connector 13.46% 28
West Bloomfield Trail 12.98% 27
Proud Lake Recreation Area 12.02% 25
Hines Park 10.58% 22
Lake Orion High School 9.13% 19
The Foundation Trail at Holly High School 8.17% 17
Seven Lakes State Park 5.77% 12
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Heritage Park 4.81% 10 Settlers Park 4.33% 9
Wadhams to Avoca Trail 4.33% 9
Lapeer Oakdale Trails 3.37% 7
Rouge Park 2.88% 6
Ruby Campground 1.92% 4
Hewen’s Creek 1.92% 4
Columbus County Park 1.44% 3
Rolling Hills 1.44% 3
Sharon Mills 0.48% 1
Olson Park 0.00% 0
Morton-Tayloy 0.00% 0
Total Respondents: 208
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Q4 Of all the Southeast Michigan trails you visited within the last year, which is your favorite?
Answered: 202 Skipped: 7
DTE Energy 33111...11199%% Foundation... 3311..1199%%
Addison Oaks 11199...33111%%
Stony Creek 11155...3355%% Metropark 1155..3355%%
Pontiac Lake 77...4433%% Recreation Area 77..4433%%
River Bends 55...9944%% Park 55..9944%%
Island Lake 33...4477%% Recreation Area 33..4477%%
Potawatomi 33...4477%%
Highland 22...9977%% Recreation Area 22..9977%%
Bald Mountain 22...4488%% North 22..4488%%
Holdridge 22...4488%% (Holly... 22..4488%%
Bloomer Park 00...9999%%
Milford Trail 00...9999%%
Brighton 00...9999%%
Hickory Glen 00...5500%% Park 00..5500%%
Macomb Orchard 00...5500%% Trail 00..5500%%
Paint Creek 00...5500%% Trail 00..5500%%
Clinton River 00...5500%% Trail 00..5500%%
Wadhams to 00...5500%% Avoca Trail 00..5500%%
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Other (please 00...5500%% specify) 00..5500%%
Bald Mountain South
Clinton River Park Trails
Columbus County Park
Wilderness Loop (Holly...
Orion Oaks County Park
Ruby Campground
Seven Lakes State Park
The Foundation Trail at Hol...
Lapeer Oakdale Trails
Hines Park
Kensington to Proud Lake...
Lakeshore Park (Tree Farm)
Maybury State Park
Proud Lake Recreation Area
Rouge Park
Settlers Park
Heritage Park
Hewen’s Creek
Olson Park
Morton-Tayloy
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Rolling Hills
Sharon Mills
Polly Ann Trail
West Bloomfield...
Metro Parkway Trail
Lake Orion High School
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ANSWER CHOICES RESPONSES
DTE Energy Foundation Trail 31.19% 63
Addison Oaks 19.31% 39
Stony Creek Metropark 15.35% 31
Pontiac Lake Recreation Area 7.43% 15
River Bends Park 5.94% 12
Island Lake Recreation Area 3.47% 7
Potawatomi 3.47% 7
Highland Recreation Area 2.97% 6
Bald Mountain North 2.48% 5
Holdridge (Holly Recreation Area) 2.48% 5
Bloomer Park 0.99% 2
Milford Trail 0.99% 2
Brighton 0.99% 2
Hickory Glen Park 0.50% 1
Macomb Orchard Trail 0.50% 1
Paint Creek Trail 0.50% 1
Clinton River Trail 0.50% 1
Wadhams to Avoca Trail 0.50% 1
Other (please specify) 0.50% 1
Bald Mountain South 0.00% 0
Clinton River Park Trails 0.00% 0
Columbus County Park 0.00% 0
Wilderness Loop (Holly Recreation Area) 0.00% 0
Orion Oaks County Park 0.00% 0
Ruby Campground 0.00% 0
Seven Lakes State Park 0.00% 0
The Foundation Trail at Holly High School 0.00% 0
Lapeer Oakdale Trails 0.00% 0
Hines Park 0.00% 0
Kensington to Proud Lake Connector 0.00% 0
Lakeshore Park (Tree Farm) 0.00% 0
Maybury State Park 0.00% 0
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Proud Lake Recreation Area 0.00% 0 Rouge Park 0.00% 0
Settlers Park 0.00% 0
Heritage Park 0.00% 0
Hewen’s Creek 0.00% 0
Olson Park 0.00% 0
Morton-Tayloy 0.00% 0
Rolling Hills 0.00% 0
Sharon Mills 0.00% 0
Polly Ann Trail 0.00% 0
West Bloomfield Trail 0.00% 0
Metro Parkway Trail 0.00% 0
Lake Orion High School 0.00% 0 TOTAL 202
# OTHER (PLEASE SPECIFY) DATE 1 The next one 2/7/2020 8:40 AM
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Q5 Which Southeast Michigan trail do you use the most?
Answered: 206 Skipped: 3
Stony Creek 3366...8899%% Metropark 3366..8899%%
River Bends 11188...9933%% Park 1188..9933%%
Addison Oaks 88...2255%%
Pontiac Lake 66...33111%% Recreation Area 66..3311%%
Bloomer Park 55...3344%%
Holdridge 44...3377%% (Holly... 44..3377%%
Island Lake 33...8888%% Recreation Area 33..8888%%
Paint Creek 22...4433%% Trail 22..4433%%
Clinton River 111...9944%% Park Trails 11..9944%%
Bald Mountain 111...4466%% North 11..4466%%
Highland 111...4466%% Recreation Area 11..4466%%
Polly Ann Trail 111...4466%%
Brighton 00...9977%%
Clinton River 00...9977%% Trail 00..9977%%
Metro Parkway 00...9977%% Trail 00..9977%%
Bald Mountain 00...4499%% South 00..4499%%
Orion Oaks 00...4499%% County Park 00..4499%%
Seven Lakes 00...4499%% State Park 00..4499%%
Lapeer Oakdale 00...4499%% T il 00..4499%%
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0. 9% Trails 00..4499%%
Lakeshore Park 00...4499%% (Tree Farm) 00..4499%%
DTE Energy 00...4499%% Foundation... 00..4499%%
Rolling Hills 00...4499%%
Macomb Orchard 00...4499%% Trail 00..4499%%
Wadhams to 00...4499%% Avoca Trail 00..4499%%
Columbus County Park
Wilderness Loop (Holly...
Ruby Campground
The Foundation Trail at Hol...
Hickory Glen Park
Hines Park
Kensington to Proud Lake...
Maybury State Park
Milford Trail
Proud Lake Recreation Area
Rouge Park
Settlers Park
Heritage Park
Hewen’s Creek
Olson Park
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Potawatomi
Morton-Tayloy
Sharon Mills
West Bloomfield...
Lake Orion High School
Other (please specify)
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ANSWER CHOICES RESPONSES
Stony Creek Metropark 36.89% 76
River Bends Park 18.93% 39
Addison Oaks 8.25% 17
Pontiac Lake Recreation Area 6.31% 13
Bloomer Park 5.34% 11
Holdridge (Holly Recreation Area) 4.37% 9
Island Lake Recreation Area 3.88% 8
Paint Creek Trail 2.43% 5
Clinton River Park Trails 1.94% 4
Bald Mountain North 1.46% 3
Highland Recreation Area 1.46% 3
Polly Ann Trail 1.46% 3
Brighton 0.97% 2
Clinton River Trail 0.97% 2
Metro Parkway Trail 0.97% 2
Bald Mountain South 0.49% 1
Orion Oaks County Park 0.49% 1
Seven Lakes State Park 0.49% 1
Lapeer Oakdale Trails 0.49% 1
Lakeshore Park (Tree Farm) 0.49% 1
DTE Energy Foundation Trail 0.49% 1
Rolling Hills 0.49% 1
Macomb Orchard Trail 0.49% 1
Wadhams to Avoca Trail 0.49% 1
Columbus County Park 0.00% 0
Wilderness Loop (Holly Recreation Area) 0.00% 0
Ruby Campground 0.00% 0
The Foundation Trail at Holly High School 0.00% 0
Hickory Glen Park 0.00% 0
Hines Park 0.00% 0
Kensington to Proud Lake Connector 0.00% 0
Maybury State Park 0.00% 0
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Milford Trail 0.00% 0
Proud Lake Recreation Area 0.00% 0
Rouge Park 0.00% 0
Settlers Park 0.00% 0
Heritage Park 0.00% 0
Hewen’s Creek 0.00% 0
Olson Park 0.00% 0
Potawatomi 0.00% 0
Morton-Tayloy 0.00% 0
Sharon Mills 0.00% 0
West Bloomfield Trail 0.00% 0
Lake Orion High School 0.00% 0
Other (please specify) 0.00% 0 TOTAL 206
# OTHER (PLEASE SPECIFY) DATE There are no responses.
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Q6 How do you get information on what new trails to visit in Southeast Michigan?
Answered: 208 Skipped: 1
Chapter 6655...8877%% Websites... 6655..8877%%
Friends / Word 6644...4422%% of Mouth 6644..4422%%
Social Media 6622...0022%% (Facebook,... 6622..0022%%
Strava 33111...7733%%
Trailforks 2266...4444%%
Bike Shops / 2255...0000%% Running Shops 2255..0000%%
Park / Trail 2244...5522%% Websites 2244..5522%%
MTB Project 2244...0044%%
I don't need 22...8888%% more info. 22..8888%%
Other (please 22...4400%% specify) 22..4400%%
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ANSWER CHOICES RESPONSES
Chapter Websites (CRAMBA, MCMBA, PotoMBA, etc) 65.87% 137
Friends / Word of Mouth 64.42% 134
Social Media (Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, etc.) 62.02% 129
Strava 31.73% 66
Trailforks 26.44% 55
Bike Shops / Running Shops 25.00% 52
Park / Trail Websites 24.52% 51
MTB Project 24.04% 50
I don't need more info. 2.88% 6
Other (please specify) 2.40% 5 Total Respondents: 208
# OTHER (PLEASE SPECIFY) DATE 1 I don't... I need a good source 2/7/2020 12:23 PM
2 My husband 2/1/2020 1:21 PM
3 Guinness Bikers 1/31/2020 10:55 PM
4 MMBA website 1/30/2020 9:38 PM
5 Singletracks 1/30/2020 1:37 PM
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Q7 How do you get information on trail conditions (muddy, icy, etc) in Southeast Michigan?
Answered: 207 Skipped: 2
Social Media 6622...3322%% (Facebook,... 6622..3322%%
SE Michigan 6622...3322%% Trail... 6622..3322%%
Friends / Word 4488...7799%% of Mouth 4488..7799%%
I go to the 33111...4400%% trail and se... 3311..4400%%
Other (please 77...7733%% specify) 77..7733%%
Trailforks 55...33111%%
MTB Project 44...8833%%
Bike Shops / 33...3388%% Running Shops 33..3388%%
Contact the 22...9900%% park where t... 22..9900%%
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ANSWER CHOICES RESPONSES
Social Media (Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, etc.) 62.32% 129
SE Michigan Trail Conditions Facebook Group 62.32% 129
Friends / Word of Mouth 48.79% 101
I go to the trail and see for myself. 31.40% 65
Other (please specify) 7.73% 16
Trailforks 5.31% 11
MTB Project 4.83% 10
Bike Shops / Running Shops 3.38% 7
Contact the park where the trail is located. 2.90% 6 Total Respondents: 207
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# OTHER (PLEASE SPECIFY) DATE 1 Again I don't... I need a good source 2/7/2020 12:23 PM
2 Mmba trail info thread 2/7/2020 8:09 AM
3 Strava 2/6/2020 3:34 PM
4 gauge the weather 2/1/2020 11:38 AM
5 mmba: http://chat.mmba.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=20 1/31/2020 11:23 AM
6 MMBA website 1/31/2020 4:13 AM
7 Calculated prediction based on the condition of my yard and how trails typically are in relation. 1/30/2020 10:35 PM
8 Use 25+ years of riding and weather watching experience to predict for myself. 1/30/2020 10:00 PM
9 looking on Strava to see people that have ridden there, then asking for conditions in the 1/30/2020 9:38 PM comments.
10 Mmba forums 1/30/2020 9:35 PM
11 MMBA forum 1/30/2020 7:53 PM
12 Dte website 1/30/2020 6:35 PM
13 Strava 1/30/2020 6:33 PM
14 Weather forecast 1/30/2020 2:25 PM
15 Step in my garden and backyard - it it's firm, Stoney Creek is probably good to go. 1/30/2020 12:43 PM
16 MMBA Tail conditions forum 1/30/2020 12:22 PM
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Q8 What types of changes would you like to see to CRAMBA-supported trails?These include: Addison Oaks County Park Bald Mountain Recreation Area Bloomer Park Clinton River Park Trails (CRPT) Columbus County Park Holly-Holdridge Recreation Area Lapeer Oakdale Trails Pontiac Lake Recreation Area River Bends Park Stony Creek Metropark The Foundation Trail at Holly High School
Answered: 208 Skipped: 1
More Mileage
Improved Connectivity...
Better Signage
More Natural Surface...
Rerouting to Avoid Fall...
More Groomed Trails for... More Man- Made Technical...
More Opportunitie...
Fewer Roots in the Trail...
Wider Trail Corridors /...
Fewer Rocks in the Trail...
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No Yes
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NO YES TOTAL WEIGHTED AVERAGE More Mileage 0.57% 99.43% 1 175 176 2.99
Improved Connectivity Between Parks 0.58% 99.42% 1 171 172 2.99
Better Signage 4.70% 95.30% 7 142 149 2.91
More Natural Surface Technical Features (Rock, Rollers) 4.70% 95.30% 7 142 149 2.91
Rerouting to Avoid Fall Lines and Erosion 7.91% 92.09% 11 128 139 2.84
More Groomed Trails for Fatbiking 15.13% 84.87% 18 101 119 2.70
More Man-Made Technical Features (eg: Skinnies, Drops, Benches, Walls) 27.20% 72.80% 34 91 125 2.46
More Opportunities for Jumping 37.61% 62.39% 44 73 117 2.25
Fewer Roots in the Trail Surface 68.64% 31.36% 81 37 118 1.63
Wider Trail Corridors / Better Sight Lines 64.76% 35.24% 68 37 105 1.70
Fewer Rocks in the Trail Surface 77.98% 22.02% 85 24 109 1.44
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# OTHER (PLEASE SPECIFY) DATE 1 CRPT, trails in a single direction, less chance of hitting someone with so many blind turns. 2/9/2020 6:27 PM
2 We have good beginner to intermediate trails (except signage/clarity for those riders) we don't 2/9/2020 10:23 AM have ANY challenging technical terrain or enough new flow/jump trails
3 Bald Mtn has potential to be a great trail system but the trail route needs to be redesigned and 2/7/2020 11:41 AM the "always wet spots" need to be improved.
4 Fix erosion issues- make safer 2/7/2020 9:24 AM
5 More education of riders as to courtesies of Different user group interactions, poor trail 2/7/2020 8:45 AM conditions, and overall safety.
6 The trend seems to be toward fast flowy, perfectly groomed, machine built trails (ala Copper 2/7/2020 8:17 AM Harbor). These are great, but I think it is important to have a variety. The current work to take every root out of Addison Oaks is making that trail very boring. Some trails need to be kept natural and not flowy.
7 Don’t nerf the trails!!! Please don’t remove rocks and roots unless it’s erosion control. Don’t 2/7/2020 8:11 AM tailor to the lowest denominator of rider. Keep some trails harder please.
8 switch backs, twisty trails like Highland, and some more flow. 2/2/2020 8:58 PM
9 Specific Kids progression area, skills area, pump tracks 1/31/2020 1:53 PM
10 Bike Path on paved section of Lake George near Stoney Creek Road. The shoulder is narrow 1/31/2020 8:59 AM there, and there are few options connecting the upper trails and roads to the Paint.
11 Better trail maintenance for improving sight lines. 1/31/2020 4:15 AM
12 In favor of more banking around curves (like DTE). Drainage improvement is never done 1/30/2020 10:02 PM
13 on signage would be great to have directions for runners (against cyclists...) 1/30/2020 9:40 PM
14 More single-track and more tech 1/30/2020 9:36 PM
15 JUMPS, high-speed jumps. Less switchbacks that kill speed on absolutely mega downhill 1/30/2020 8:40 PM sections
16 Less sand! 1/30/2020 2:19 PM
17 dont redo the stoney creek trail system 1/30/2020 1:59 PM
18 DTE but closer :) 1/30/2020 1:48 PM
19 Roots are not evil, they just need to fill in the erosion from weather and use . 1/30/2020 1:03 PM
20 Better sight lines to avoid negative interactions with hikers, but not necessarily wider trail 1/30/2020 12:45 PM corridors
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Q9 How does CRAMBA do at these things?
Answered: 208 Skipped: 1
Provide information ...
Host group rides.
Host trail work days. Communicate to members abou... Build fun trails. Work with Land Managers to...
Host events (¡Ay CRAMBA...
Make the membership...
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Needs Improvement Doing Well
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NEEDS DOING TOTAL WEIGHTED IMPROVEMENT WELL AVERAGE Provide information on local riding opportunities. 34.41% 65.59% 64 122 186 1.66
Host group rides. 33.33% 66.67% 56 112 168 1.67
Host trail work days. 24.35% 75.65% 47 146 193 1.76
Communicate to members about what's going on. 19.80% 80.20% 39 158 197 1.80
Build fun trails. 14.93% 85.07% 30 171 201 1.85
Work with Land Managers to Develop Trail Access and 13.50% 86.50% Opportunities. 22 141 163 1.87
Provide money for trail improvements. 11.04% 88.96% 17 137 154 1.89
Host events (¡Ay CRAMBA It's Cold Out!, Addison Oaks Fall Classic, 7.22% 92.78% Massive Fallout). 14 180 194 1.93
Make the membership sign-up and renewal easy. 6.15% 93.85% 12 183 195 1.94
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Q10 Is there anything you'd like to see CRAMBA do more of?
Answered: 93 Skipped: 116
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# RESPONSES DATE 1 Do my job for me so I can ride more. I don't get involved in a lot, but I'm always aware of the 2/9/2020 8:43 PM opportunities to do so, mainly via CRAMBA emails.
2 Get more members involved in trail work including adding more challenging and/or new school 2/9/2020 10:28 AM trails
3 I'd like to see some real mtb trails in Genesee County. This organization has taken on more 2/9/2020 9:20 AM trails close to this area but this area doesn't get the true attention of CRAMBA and many people in Genesee county ride the trails you club sponsors. It would be great to have a flow trail on this side of the state that is similar to DTE.
4 better messaging. 2/8/2020 6:46 PM
5 Implement more acceptance of fat bikes on trails. 2/8/2020 4:09 AM
6 Daily trail condition reporting 2/7/2020 8:17 PM
7 Nothing comes to mind 2/7/2020 7:02 PM
8 build better trails, more advanced trails. focus on parks other than riverbends & stony 2/7/2020 6:44 PM
9 Build more trails, longer trails. 2/7/2020 12:31 PM
10 Improve Bald Mtn trail system 2/7/2020 11:43 AM
11 Communicate to members more regularly 2/7/2020 11:33 AM
12 Express to riders the need to have a Bell on Bikes to alert other Trail users. 2/7/2020 10:46 AM
13 The change to an out and back for Massive is good, maybe an over-night or weekend event (ie, 2/7/2020 8:46 AM camping weekend at Addison race)
14 I'd love to see more trails, but I know that CRAMBA is working it and I know that in order to do 2/7/2020 8:19 AM things correctly there are a number of groups to interact with and plan.
15 Provide beginner support. Also spread positivity. 2/7/2020 8:19 AM
16 Host more events such as Ay Cramba. Non race events that draw a large number of people. 2/7/2020 8:13 AM
17 I think our trails are good, but after riding once or twice they tend to get boring because of: 1. 2/5/2020 1:46 PM single direction, could enhance the trails by doing clockwise and counter clock days. 2. lack of features. We get some naturally formed featured, a few berms here and there, but there isn't a focus on fun features. We even had the jump at the bottom of RB steep grade torn down after like a month. And that was a really cool feature. Make it a better jump and landing and just offer and alternate paths for people that don't want to jump it. Don't remove the few fun things we get. Also I think communicate trail conditions better. Either post on the site more frequently or just better/more channels. People are destroying the trails on the first muddy day, and then it's ruined for weeks. Especially in winter time when we have more mud than snow. Only using facebook is a bad way, no everyone wants facebook. Could do a feed and allow public input on the website, and also use twitter in addition to FB.
18 Paved pump track at riverbends. More trail more dirt features, berms, rollers that can be 2/5/2020 11:45 AM doubled.
19 Love all the local trails but would love to have more! Humans are never satisfied haha. It would 2/4/2020 12:45 PM also be great to have more events but I also realize the time and resource commitment involved.
20 Keep up the good work! 2/4/2020 12:09 PM
21 What’s going on with Sheldon trails redevelopment? 2/3/2020 12:30 PM
22 I would like some skills coaching. I want to improve my cornering and bike handling. Get our 2/2/2020 9:01 PM name or logo on the trails that we manage to let other users know who takes care of the trails.. The hikers may appreciate us more.
23 Better communication of trail work days 2/1/2020 5:16 PM
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25 weekend group rides/trips to other areas 2/1/2020 3:20 PM
26 Na 2/1/2020 1:23 PM
27 More events to get kids and younger riders involved. 1/31/2020 1:54 PM
28 More group rides or better advertising of them. 1/31/2020 12:29 PM
29 Educate themselves on E-bikes, and allow on trails. They actually put out them same or less 1/31/2020 10:40 AM watts than a regular biker can pedal up a hill. Class 1e-bikes do not have a throttle. Over all it gets more people on bikes.
30 I work crazy hours and would like to participate more but I need at least a month’s notice to get 1/31/2020 10:26 AM time off. More communication. I’m not on social media
31 Only thing I can think of is more education on trail courtesy, etiquette, and when people should 1/31/2020 9:38 AM ride/conditions. I am a member of SE trail conditions and I have noticed when new people try to help- a portion of the community bashes them if they dont know and people can really put people down. It can get rather toxic in that group to the point I barely check it --again most are great but there are a select few that really can get down on people if they post a condition they rode on- or someone will post ruts just to bash people that rode it-
32 No 1/31/2020 9:08 AM
33 Hmmm.. We are all different. I am a woman, ride year round (fat bike), and I am not of the 1/31/2020 9:01 AM youthful variety. I would like to see more women cyclists overall. It has improved, but we are still seriously outnumbered.
34 keep up the good work 1/31/2020 8:59 AM
35 I love the selection of trails available to us. If CRAMBA can continue to assist with trails in the 1/31/2020 8:48 AM Lapeer area, that would be fantastic.
36 Cramba is doing as good as possible with resources at hand. 1/31/2020 6:57 AM
37 No 1/31/2020 6:47 AM
38 Creating more centralized community. 1/31/2020 4:20 AM
39 Build more old school technical trails with more rocks, roots, logs etc. I feel that within the last 1/30/2020 11:03 PM 30 years of riding that trails have been dumbed down somewhat.
40 N/A - seems pretty good to me. 1/30/2020 10:38 PM
41 Weekday trail day, building optional jumps, drops and rock/root/steep 1/30/2020 10:28 PM
42 Connect Bloomer and River Bends park 1/30/2020 9:51 PM
43 larger group rides like mass fallout 1/30/2020 9:41 PM
44 Build more advanced singletrack 1/30/2020 9:38 PM
45 Be more approachable and receptive to feedback at chapter meetings. 1/30/2020 9:20 PM
46 Build more challenging trails and features 1/30/2020 9:18 PM
47 CRAMBA is doing awesome. Would appreciate some more Skills Park 1/30/2020 9:05 PM
48 Keep doing gods work!! We love and appreciate every local trail builder that sacrifices time, 1/30/2020 8:43 PM effort, and money into letting us get out and enjoy the biking opportunities in this region. <3
49 I would like more love to go to Bloomer. Last year every time tree fell over trail they made 1/30/2020 8:35 PM another log pile. Disappointing. Would love to see some of the erosion areas fixed. Such a natural beautiful trail
50 Child engagement. Maybe some clinics at Elementary, Middle School, and High schools? 1/30/2020 8:23 PM
51 New to the group, but seems good. 1/30/2020 8:22 PM
52 Build pump track and/or dirt jumps 1/30/2020 8:05 PM
53 No 1/30/2020 7:55 PM
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54 Na 1/30/2020 7:25 PM
55 You are doing great Cramba ! More tech trail development please. 1/30/2020 6:46 PM
56 E bikes, I want to ride them. I think they are not allowed but It is not clear to me. 1/30/2020 6:36 PM
57 N/A 1/30/2020 6:25 PM
58 Scholarships for members, students that ride/race or volunteer for CRAMBA 1/30/2020 6:17 PM
59 More public awareness about organization. 1/30/2020 6:09 PM
60 Nothing comes immediately to mind. 1/30/2020 5:37 PM
61 The board is doing a great job! Thank you. 1/30/2020 5:18 PM
62 Keep people apprised of current and future projects 1/30/2020 4:59 PM
63 Encourage more girls AND women to mountain bike and race 1/30/2020 4:41 PM
64 no 1/30/2020 4:05 PM
65 More trails 1/30/2020 3:09 PM
66 Pump tracks and dirt jumps 1/30/2020 3:08 PM
67 Market more to get more riders involved. Open the barrier of entry somehow. 1/30/2020 2:58 PM
68 I think a CRAMBA travel group ride once or twice a month were we all meet up at a non 1/30/2020 2:47 PM CRAMBA trail would be awesome. Maybe even take a page from the KLM guys and have a pick-nick afterwords.
69 Keep up the great job! Trails and biking in general has never been better! 1/30/2020 2:44 PM
70 I think signage could be improved at some of the trails, including maps at every sign post. More 1/30/2020 2:08 PM ways to connect trails together would be awesome too. A lot of the connections between trails I see being crowd-sourced/explained on the SE Trails Facebook. Maybe some sort of resource that documents directions to connect trails and what the total mileage would be.
71 Honestly I'm not really sure what they do besides trail maintenance, which I appreciate 1/30/2020 1:57 PM
72 Honestly I hear a bunch of talk about new trails and money going towards them but I never see 1/30/2020 1:52 PM them and never hear anything. It’s disheartening
73 Not that I can think 1/30/2020 1:49 PM
74 Technical features. Jumps. Rollers. Rockgardens. Progressive skills areas. 1/30/2020 1:47 PM
75 Build more high speed flow trails like DTE. If we can secure a large sponsor to hire a trail 1/30/2020 1:39 PM building company that could be a big boon. (plus I'd just love it a lot)
76 Do some outreach and get people who do city biking/commuting or who are looking for a new 1/30/2020 1:38 PM exercise activity, and get them to try mountain biking. It could be combined with a couple of shops and people could either ride their own bikes with CRAMBA guides, or they could try out new bikes that have features v]better suited to the trails.
77 No 1/30/2020 1:33 PM
78 Bike demo event at Pontiac state rec. Jumps, rock rollers, drops at Pontiac please 1/30/2020 1:32 PM
79 Faster development of talked about projects like new Stony creek trails 1/30/2020 1:29 PM
80 Communication/updates on Stoney Creek rebuild. 1/30/2020 1:15 PM
81 can't think of anything 1/30/2020 1:04 PM
82 CRAMBA could be a leading force in the area pushing for new and creative trail use. 1/30/2020 12:58 PM Experimenting with new ideas of trail management and types of use. Allowing E-bikes on a trail (just one to start) as an experiment would be a great start because it will be legal someday and we can be proactive with learning what parameters we may need in place. There are so many other ideas like small easy to build pump tracks at trailheads (think Noquemanon South Trails Trailhead) to capture interest in Mountain Biking from people passing by, simple flow lines in existing trails (I'm not talking huge doubles, I mean simple) to give riders ways to improve skills
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and maybe have some fun and clear signage for hard or easy routes with definition that is universal like ski hill designation. I LOVE CRAMBA and want to see it be more true to the cause of more Mountain biking! To do that we can find ways to get more people on the trails not more rules to create segregation.
83 Re: group rides - consider adding some weekend rides and vary the locations. Answered n/a on 1/30/2020 12:48 PM the money question because I don't know how much goes to trail improvements.
84 More trail please, connectivity would be awesome 1/30/2020 12:46 PM
85 With the Stony redevelopment, increased grooming, the Addison Race, and other efforts, I'd 1/30/2020 12:44 PM say the volunteer CRAMBA group is kicking ass! The board supports trails all over a large region. I'd like to see some modernization/reroutes/fixes of some of the heritage trails (Holdridge, Seven Lakes, others), but that's unlikely to go over with some TCs and the idiotic "dumbing down" wannabee hardcore riders. If anything, we're missing opportunities to add technical features and more challenge to trails because people think trails are static.
86 Nothing comes to mind. 1/30/2020 12:36 PM
87 More bike lanes. 1/30/2020 12:31 PM
88 Not at this time 1/30/2020 12:27 PM
89 Large events like MFO 1/30/2020 12:27 PM
90 N/A 1/30/2020 12:25 PM
91 Not really 1/30/2020 12:23 PM
92 New trail 1/30/2020 12:17 PM
93 Group rides, more grooming for winter fatbiking 1/30/2020 12:15 PM
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Q11 Is there anything you'd like to see CRAMBA do less of?
Answered: 58 Skipped: 151
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# RESPONSES DATE 1 No 2/9/2020 8:43 PM
2 No 2/9/2020 10:28 AM
3 no 2/8/2020 6:46 PM
4 No 2/7/2020 7:02 PM
5 less fatbike, in this climate is is a waste of time and money. 2/7/2020 6:44 PM
6 Don't neuter the trails... don't remove dangerous aspects 2/7/2020 12:31 PM
7 No 2/7/2020 10:46 AM
8 . 2/7/2020 8:19 AM
9 The trail stewardship at Riverbends has been phenomenal. However, half of the new canal loop 2/7/2020 8:17 AM trail really is not great. It’s not an issue of the trail wearing in... it just sucks. Quantity over quality... Ultimately its the decision of the volunteers, whom I appreciate deeply, but the effort should be put elsewhere into the trail than in a slow, twisty, not fun trail in a grass field
10 No. 2/7/2020 8:13 AM
11 No 2/4/2020 12:09 PM
12 No 2/3/2020 12:30 PM
13 I'm good 2/1/2020 5:16 PM
14 . 2/1/2020 3:50 PM
15 N/A 2/1/2020 3:20 PM
16 Na 2/1/2020 1:23 PM
17 Nope! 1/31/2020 12:29 PM
18 No 1/31/2020 10:26 AM
19 No 1/31/2020 9:38 AM
20 No 1/31/2020 9:08 AM
21 No. Keep up the great work. 1/31/2020 8:48 AM
22 No 1/31/2020 6:47 AM
23 No 1/30/2020 11:03 PM
24 N/A - seems pretty good to me. 1/30/2020 10:38 PM
25 Removing roots and rocks 1/30/2020 10:28 PM
26 n/a 1/30/2020 9:41 PM
27 No 1/30/2020 9:38 PM
28 NA 1/30/2020 9:20 PM
29 Building XC trails and catering to the lcd. 1/30/2020 9:18 PM
30 Switchbacks on downhill sections 1/30/2020 8:43 PM
31 No 1/30/2020 8:23 PM
32 N-A 1/30/2020 8:22 PM
33 N/A 1/30/2020 8:05 PM
34 N/A 1/30/2020 6:25 PM
35 N/a 1/30/2020 6:17 PM
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36 Nope. 1/30/2020 6:09 PM
37 Nothing 1/30/2020 5:37 PM
38 no 1/30/2020 4:59 PM
39 no 1/30/2020 4:05 PM
40 Flat boring trails 1/30/2020 3:08 PM
41 Surveys....just kidding. 1/30/2020 2:44 PM
42 No. 1/30/2020 2:08 PM
43 Less watering down of trails. Make it fun and Challenging. 1/30/2020 1:52 PM
44 Nope - appreciate all that CRAMBA does 1/30/2020 1:49 PM
45 nothing comes to mind, great work for a small local chapter!! 1/30/2020 1:39 PM
46 No, the volunteers who are running things are doing great work! 1/30/2020 1:38 PM
47 No 1/30/2020 1:33 PM
48 No 1/30/2020 1:32 PM
49 Losing skills parks line Stony creek 1/30/2020 1:29 PM
50 No 1/30/2020 1:15 PM
51 n/a 1/30/2020 1:04 PM
52 No, I like what CRAMBA is doing. 1/30/2020 12:48 PM
53 I really can't fault CRAMBA at all. 1/30/2020 12:44 PM
54 Nothing comes to mind. 1/30/2020 12:36 PM
55 Not at this time 1/30/2020 12:27 PM
56 N/A 1/30/2020 12:25 PM
57 No 1/30/2020 12:17 PM
58 No 1/30/2020 12:15 PM
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Q12 Have you interacted with our National Mountain Bike Patrol?
Answered: 208 Skipped: 1
III'''mm ppaarrtt oofff tthhee YYeess,,, tthheeyy'''vvee NNaattiiioonnaalll MMoouunnttaaiiinn hheelllppeedd mmee oouutt!!! BBiiikkee PPaattrroolll... 88...11177%% (((11177))) 77...22111%% (((11155)))
NNoo,,, III hhaavveenn'''tt nnoottiiicceedd tthheemm...
2288...3377%% (((5599)))
III'''vvee sseeeenn tthheemm oonn tthhee ttrraaiiilllss aanndd//oorr aatt eevveennttss...
ANSWER CHOICES RESPONSES
Yes, they've helped me out! 8.17% 17
I've seen them on the trails and/or at events. 56.25% 117
No, I haven't noticed them. 28.37% 59
I'm part of the National Mountain Bike Patrol. 7.21% 15
TOTAL 208
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Q13 Do you bring a dog with you when using trails?
Answered: 209 Skipped: 0
YYeess 111...4444%% (((33))) SSoommeettiiimmeess 11155...33111%% (((3322)))
NNoo 8833...2255%% (((1117744)))
ANSWER CHOICES RESPONSES
Yes 1.44% 3
Sometimes 15.31% 32
No 83.25% 174
TOTAL 209
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Q14 How do you feel about other trail users having dogs?
Answered: 208 Skipped: 1
III'''dd rraatthheerr nnoott hhaavvee ddooggss aarroouunndd...
2233...0088%% (((4488)))
JJuusstt fifinnee wwiiitthh mmee!!! 4488...0088%% (((1110000)))
III'''mm iiinnddiiiffffeerreenntt... 2288...8855%% (((6600)))
ANSWER CHOICES RESPONSES
Just fine with me! 48.08% 100
I'm indifferent. 28.85% 60
I'd rather not have dogs around. 23.08% 48
TOTAL 208
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Q15 How do you feel about unleashed dogs?
Answered: 209 Skipped: 0
DDooggss aarree mmeeaanntt ttoo rruunn fffrreeee...
77...6666%% (((11166)))
FFiiinnee iiinn tthhee rriiigghhtt III'''dd pprreefffeerr aallllll sseettttiiinngg... ddooggss ttoo bbee llleeaasshheedd...
5522...6633%% (((11111100))) 3399...77111%% (((8833)))
ANSWER CHOICES RESPONSES
Fine in the right setting. 52.63% 110
I'd prefer all dogs to be leashed. 39.71% 83
Dogs are meant to run free. 7.66% 16
TOTAL 209
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Q16 Are you a CRAMBA member?
Answered: 209 Skipped: 0
Yes! 1110000...0000%%
I was but my membership h...
No.
0% 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100%
ANSWER CHOICES RESPONSES
Yes! 100.00% 209
I was but my membership has expired. 0.00% 0
No. 0.00% 0 TOTAL 209
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Q17 How did you hear about this survey?
Answered: 209 Skipped: 0
Social Media 3333...4499%% (Facebook,... 3333..4499%%
Email from 5577...4422%% CRAMBA 5577..4422%%
A friend sent 33...8833%% it to me 33..8833%%
Bike Club or 33...3355%% Team 33..3355%%
Other (please 111...99111%% specify) 11..9911%%
0% 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100%
ANSWER CHOICES RESPONSES
Social Media (Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, etc) 33.49% 70
Email from CRAMBA 57.42% 120
A friend sent it to me 3.83% 8
Bike Club or Team 3.35% 7
Other (please specify) 1.91% 4
TOTAL 209
# OTHER (PLEASE SPECIFY) DATE 1 Husband 2/1/2020 1:24 PM
2 went on the website 2/1/2020 11:42 AM
3 Went for a ride and met members 1/30/2020 8:26 PM
4 CRAMBA Board member 1/30/2020 3:20 PM
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Q18 Are you a member of another mountain biking or cycling advocacy group?
Answered: 92 Skipped: 117
Metro Detroit 3300...4433%% Mountain Bik... 3300..4433%%
Guinness Bikers 2299...3355%%
Other (please 11188...4488%% specify) 1188..4488%%
League of 11155...2222%% Michigan... 1155..2222%%
Girlbike 111111...9966%%
Motor City 99...7788%% Mountain Bik... 99..7788%%
Copper Harbor 66...5522%% Trails Club... 66..5522%%
Mid-Michigan 55...4433%% Mountain Bik... 55..4433%%
Northern 44...3355%% Michigan... 44..3355%%
Potawatomi 44...3355%% Mountain Bik... 44..3355%%
Noquemanon 44...3355%% Trails Netwo... 44..3355%%
RAMBA 22...11177%%
Central 111...0099%% Michigan... 11..0099%%
Thunder Bay 111...0099%% Trails... 11..0099%%
Western 111...0099%% Michigan... 11..0099%%
Michigan's Edge Mountai...
Shoreline Cycling Club...
Southwest Michigan...
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Top of Michigan...
Sault Cycling Club
0% 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100%
ANSWER CHOICES RESPONSES
Metro Detroit Mountain Bikers (MDMB) 30.43% 28
Guinness Bikers 29.35% 27
Other (please specify) 18.48% 17
League of Michigan Bicyclists (LMB) 15.22% 14
Girlbike 11.96% 11
Motor City Mountain Bike Association (MCMBA) 9.78% 9
Copper Harbor Trails Club (CHTC) 6.52% 6
Mid-Michigan Mountain Bike Association (MMMBA) 5.43% 5
Northern Michigan Mountain Bike Association (NMMBA) 4.35% 4
Potawatomi Mountain Bike Association (PotoMBA) 4.35% 4
Noquemanon Trails Network (NTN) 4.35% 4
RAMBA 2.17% 2
Central Michigan Mountain Bike Association (CMMBA) 1.09% 1
Thunder Bay Trails Association (TBTA) 1.09% 1
Western Michigan Mountain Bike Alliance (WMMBA) 1.09% 1
Michigan's Edge Mountain Bike Association (MEMBA) 0.00% 0
Shoreline Cycling Club (SCC) 0.00% 0
Southwest Michigan Mountain Bike Association (SWMMBA) 0.00% 0
Top of Michigan Mountain Bike Association (TOMMBA) 0.00% 0
Sault Cycling Club 0.00% 0 Total Respondents: 92
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# OTHER (PLEASE SPECIFY) DATE 1 Team O2 2/7/2020 11:43 AM
2 Imba 2/7/2020 8:36 AM
3 No 1/31/2020 10:28 AM
4 informal - stony creek gravel grinders 1/31/2020 9:02 AM
5 EPIC Mountain Bike, HAMBSTERS 1/31/2020 8:49 AM
6 No. And daaaaang that's a lot of groups. :) 1/30/2020 10:39 PM
7 KLM, High Gear Racing 1/30/2020 10:29 PM
8 World Bicycle Relief 1/30/2020 9:44 PM
9 MDMB 1/30/2020 6:37 PM
10 MISCA, Lake Orion Cycling Team Coach 1/30/2020 6:19 PM
11 People for Bikes 1/30/2020 4:42 PM
12 Clinton River Riders 1/30/2020 3:20 PM
13 HVUR-Huron Valley United Racing: Coach 1/30/2020 2:46 PM
14 Cadillac Pathway 1/30/2020 2:36 PM
15 Guinness Bikers 1/30/2020 1:51 PM
16 Gearheads 1/30/2020 1:34 PM
17 No 1/30/2020 1:16 PM
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Q19 Have you ridden an asphalt pump track?
Answered: 202 Skipped: 7
Yes, and I 11122...8877%% liked it! 1122..8877%%
Yes, but it's 44...4466%% not for me. 44..4466%%
No, but I want 5500...0000%% to! 5500..0000%%
No, I'm not 3322...6677%% interested. 3322..6677%%
0% 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100%
ANSWER CHOICES RESPONSES
Yes, and I liked it! 12.87% 26
Yes, but it's not for me. 4.46% 9
No, but I want to! 50.00% 101
No, I'm not interested. 32.67% 66 TOTAL 202
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Q20 Please share your opinion on asphalt pump tracks.
Answered: 200 Skipped: 9
Good for kids and adults...
Would help develop ridi...
An easy way for parents ...
Will attract new riders.
Similar to playground...
I would ride it.
CRAMBA should investigate...
0% 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100%
Disagree No Opinion Agree
DISAGREE NO AGREE TOTAL WEIGHTED OPINION AVERAGE Good for kids and adults alike. 2.50% 25.50% 72.00% 5 51 144 200 2.69
Would help develop riding skills. 4.50% 24.50% 71.00% 9 49 142 200 2.67
An easy way for parents to let young kids ride. 4.00% 34.00% 62.00% 8 68 124 200 2.58
Will attract new riders. 5.50% 33.50% 61.00% 11 67 122 200 2.56
Similar to playground equipment, but for bikes. 5.03% 35.18% 59.80% 10 70 119 199 2.55
I would ride it. 11.50% 23.00% 65.50% 23 46 131 200 2.54
CRAMBA should investigate building an asphalt pump track at a 13.50% 31.00% 55.50% local trail. 27 62 111 200 2.42
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Q21 Have you ridden an eBike on mountain bike trails (in any state/country)?
Answered: 204 Skipped: 5
YYeess 88...8822%% (((11188)))
NNoo 99111...11188%% (((1118866)))
ANSWER CHOICES RESPONSES
Yes 8.82% 18
No 91.18% 186 TOTAL 204
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Q22 How do you feel about eBikes being allowed on mountain bike trails?
Answered: 204 Skipped: 5
I don't think 3333...8822%% it should be... 3333..8822%%
I'm open to 4499...0022%% it, with som... 4499..0022%%
I think all 55...8888%% types of eBi... 55..8888%%
I don't have 111111...2277%% an opinion. ... 1111..2277%%
0% 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100%
ANSWER CHOICES RESPONSES
I don't think it should be allowed. 33.82% 69
I'm open to it, with some restrictions (eg: types of eBikes, speed, pedal assist, power output). 49.02% 100
I think all types of eBikes should be allowed. 5.88% 12
I don't have an opinion. / I don't care. 11.27% 23 TOTAL 204
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Q23 If a new trail was built, and designated open to both eBikes and traditional mountain bikes, would you ride it?
Answered: 204 Skipped: 5
NNoo 11144...2222%% (((2299)))
YYeess 8855...7788%% (((1117755)))
ANSWER CHOICES RESPONSES
Yes 85.78% 175
No 14.22% 29 TOTAL 204
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Q24 Do you feel eBike riders have appropriate advocacy support? (From clubs, shops, manufacturers.)
Answered: 202 Skipped: 7
NNoo 4477...5522%% (((9966))) YYeess 5522...4488%% (((1110066)))
ANSWER CHOICES RESPONSES
Yes 52.48% 106
No 47.52% 96 TOTAL 202
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Q25 Should CRAMBA advocate for eBike access to mountain bike trails?
Answered: 202 Skipped: 7
YYeess 2200...3300%% (((44111)))
NNoo 3388...66111%% (((7788)))
III'''mm iiinnddiiiffffeerreenntt... 44111...0099%% (((8833)))
ANSWER CHOICES RESPONSES
Yes 20.30% 41
I'm indifferent. 41.09% 83
No 38.61% 78 TOTAL 202
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Q26 Should eBike riders have their own trail access and advocacy group?
Answered: 202 Skipped: 7
NNoo 22111...7788%% (((4444))) YYeess 3300...6699%% (((6622)))
III'''mm iiinnddiiiffffeerreenntt... 4477...5522%% (((9966)))
ANSWER CHOICES RESPONSES
Yes 30.69% 62
I'm indifferent. 47.52% 96
No 21.78% 44 TOTAL 202
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Q27 Is there anything else you would like to share with CRAMBA? Suggestions, comments, complaints... Good, bad, or whichever?
Answered: 72 Skipped: 137
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# RESPONSES DATE 1 The survey is a good thing to do to get a feel of users needs, thanks! 2/9/2020 10:33 AM
2 If you allow assisted bicycles on a trail you are opening up a can of worms that could lead to 2/9/2020 9:27 AM motorcycles and other motorized vehicles entering the trail system.
3 Nice survey! 2/7/2020 8:21 PM
4 Asphalt pumptracks are a waste of money. Poorly designed and it's a total waste. I've ridden 2/7/2020 7:17 PM them, it's not a plus. Not to mention they are tire specific, dirt tires DO NOT perform well on asphalt tracks. Given the PROPER TOOLS and MATERIALS a dirt pumptrack is the way to go, can be reshaped and fixed as needed. Same goes for wood, your not Rays. If you want help building a pumptrack call me, would love to see a real effort put into one. Unlike the halfassed efforts in the past. Ebikes are only getting bigger and faster. Shops are sending inexperienced riders out to the trails on what is becoming a motorcycle. They don't belong in our setting, maybe out in the open deserts or on the road but not on our type of trails or busy bikepaths. And the whole disabled excuse is absolute bullshit, one out of a thousand ebikers might be disabled, have yet to meet one.
5 Keep up the good work! 2/7/2020 12:38 PM
6 no go on the pump track, yes on ebikes on the same trails. build more single tracks, invest in 2/7/2020 11:38 AM existing single and double tracks, better signage/directions in all parks
7 Thank you for your service 2/7/2020 10:57 AM
8 Love that you are involved up in Lapeer County with trail development. Wish they could build 2/7/2020 10:15 AM single track through the state game area.
9 I dislike the attitude mountain bikers have towards runners, hikers, beginner riders. The 2/7/2020 9:31 AM comments they leave on social media is so arrogant and not enough is said to disparage them. We need to all share the trails and not feel like anyone is superior to anyone else.
10 I appreciate all the hard work, volunteer hours and patience put in by all the CRAMBA staff. 2/7/2020 8:27 AM Thank you! As for ebikes - I have motocross bikes and have ridden them my entire life. Things with motors the manufacturers and riders always want them to go faster, be more capable. This will be true for ebikes as well. It's a slippery slope to allow them now and try to ban them later as they progress. It also seems a contradiction to worry so much about trail erosion and damage and allow motorized vehicles on the trails. All that said, I do think it is fun to see someone with a disability who could not normally ride a trail have a true "mountain bike experience" and watch their joy. Tricky topic to be sure.
11 The ebike questions need more options for answers. I am aware that most trails are non- 2/7/2020 8:27 AM motorized, but with the ebike wave coming think it would be good to talk to landowners. Not just one sided talks but the real opinions based on the fact people will most likely be out there. What to do for reporting and other things. Potentially a large issue and it is not clear at all at this point.
12 No. 2/7/2020 8:15 AM
13 On the dog issue. Our dogs are very well trained. They sit and dont move until released - 2/7/2020 8:08 AM therefore leash is not an issue. Dog's that are not well trained should be on a leash or not allowed on the trail.
14 we as bikers have a lot of responsibility to share the trails, be nice and welcoming to everyone 2/5/2020 1:53 PM else. And I hope at least most of us do that. However I think some education for hikers, and ESPECIALLY joggers/runners that use the trail is required. These are all shared trails and we all need to understand how to use them properly no matter the mode of use. Perhaps some foot traffic specific signage and "rules" posted would be nice as well. Same for biking. Grand rapids does this well on their trails, very visible and breaks down the use type and how to behave.
15 Loose dogs on the trail is a problem. I have nearly ran over dogs multiple times. Dog shit on the 2/5/2020 11:52 AM trail is a problem! I have never seen someone pick up dog shit when they are in the trails. They assume it disappears overnight? Health hazard to have it around and danger to hit an unleashed dog is real.
16 THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HARD WORK AND THOUGHTFULNESS!!! 2/4/2020 12:50 PM
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17 Get Sheldon trails done ASAP. That trail system is horrible right now as needs love 2/3/2020 12:33 PM
18 E-bikes would allow even more people to access the trails and would detract from many of the 2/1/2020 9:17 PM reasons I ride the trails. I ride to get away from modern lifestyles. I think e bikes are destructive to trails. Although they can be made to be acceptable for trail use there always ends up being abuse.
19 Regarding eBikes This adds speed. People get beyond their skill level when human powered. 2/1/2020 5:21 PM Human powered mountain biking has the advantage of slowing people down, preventing unnecessary damage to the trail and injury on the trail.
20 More hats! 2/1/2020 3:26 PM
21 Na 2/1/2020 1:25 PM
22 good people, forward leaning, growing and active organization 2/1/2020 11:04 AM
23 I really appreciate the work that goes into the trails and love helping out when I have a chance. 1/31/2020 12:32 PM It is an excellent group to be a part of!
24 We really need better signage on trails when they are a one way! I’ve almost had head-on 1/31/2020 10:31 AM collisions a couple times
25 As far as E-bikes go- i think it is great for people that are unable to ride a regular bike enjoy the 1/31/2020 9:42 AM trails-
26 On dogs. I only take mine went on the Muni and Fat tire (snow Ice) when my speeds are lower 1/31/2020 9:36 AM and during low volume times (retired so during workdays/times). She runs in front of me and knows the basic musher (dog sled) commands so I can always see her and is 100% under control so not chasing animals, getting in others way etc. This is how an unleashed dog should be in case another rider comes along. Love all what you guys do and want to help with trail maintenance at the parks near me now that I am retired and have the time. But other members say go on line to volunteer however your link to the +show up to work calendar" does not go thru. But thanks for all you do!!!!!!
27 No 1/31/2020 9:12 AM
28 thank you! 1/31/2020 9:04 AM
29 No 1/31/2020 8:51 AM
30 No 1/31/2020 6:50 AM
31 Keep up the good work. Thank you for all you do! 1/31/2020 4:24 AM
32 Keep it up! I'm looking forward to trail days this year, Massive Fallout, and hope to make it into 1/30/2020 10:42 PM the Classic this year.
33 I encourage cycling, and feel e-Bikes will bring in a larger audience that would otherwise not be 1/30/2020 10:13 PM accessible due to issues such as age or surgery. If they do well, maybe such users will convert into a conventional cyclist over time as their strength and conditioning improve.
34 Re: eBikes - I had a very good experience at Outerbike in NWA with eBikes. They are part of 1/30/2020 9:49 PM the community and embraced. The biggest problem I see with eBikes is that because they are new to SE MI, other riders aren't familiar with proper etiquette. There's also a bit of ignorance which leads to fear which leads to hate with eBikes. eBikes allow people keep up with their friends, spouses, and enjoy the ride. I don't think I will be purchasing an eBike anytime soon, but I fully support eBikes provided that the riders on them are courteous and have proper trail etiquette.
35 Keep up the good work - much appreciated 1/30/2020 9:40 PM
36 Thanks CRAMBA! 1/30/2020 9:34 PM
37 No evokes on mtb trails 1/30/2020 9:21 PM
38 DOING AN AWESOME JOB! Loving all the trails you guys maintain. 1/30/2020 8:19 PM
39 Pump track .... Hells yeah 1/30/2020 8:07 PM
40 Great job Cramba! 1/30/2020 6:53 PM
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41 Holly Wildnerness is awesome when groomed for Fat Bikes! Thanks! 1/30/2020 6:42 PM
42 eBikes for people with disabilities that would normally not be on the trails is a good thing for 1/30/2020 6:40 PM people.
43 Keep up the great work! 1/30/2020 6:34 PM
44 N/A 1/30/2020 6:28 PM
45 Love the pump track idea!!! 1/30/2020 6:21 PM
46 Nope. 1/30/2020 6:16 PM
47 I don't have a problem with e-bikes on gravel roads or paved paths, but they don't belong on 1/30/2020 4:45 PM mountain biking and hiking trails. That's crossing the line between non-motorized and motorized transport.
48 There are plenty of trails available for Motorized bikes. Do not let the non-motorized trails 1/30/2020 3:30 PM become motorized trails.
49 Congrats to Brian on being a new dad! 1/30/2020 3:24 PM
50 I just need more dirt jumps and pump tracks 1/30/2020 3:11 PM
51 Get more people riding. Get bike shops to partner up to generate interest. Better ways to share 1/30/2020 3:01 PM and communicate group rides (via social media)
52 It would be nice to not have chapter meetings on group ride nights. For myself if I have to 1/30/2020 2:56 PM choose between riding and sitting in a meeting i'm going to go ride. I think a lot of other riders might feel the same way.
53 need faster movement with all projects 1/30/2020 2:47 PM
54 I'm very conflicted on e-bikes. I think they provide great accessibility to everything we love 1/30/2020 2:13 PM about trail riding to people who may not be capable of riding a regular bike for some reason, but the speeds concern me. I think if they're allowed on trails with other users, they should be tightly regulate on speed to max out at ~15mph with the motor.
55 I think EBikes will be an interesting topic in the upcoming years. As a SCI survivor, I understand 1/30/2020 1:56 PM the need for some to have the assist provided. I would hate to see trails damaged, however, by healthy people simply wanting to 'go faster' than their abilities allow.
56 Be more open to the public on trails you are building and what’s goin on with projects. Haven’t 1/30/2020 1:55 PM heard shit about the stony creek improvement stuff
57 The more options the better! If there are options further north you might have more local 1/30/2020 1:44 PM supporters (myself included) to start volunteering for new trails/parks. Flow trail would be amazing. E-bikes allow access to the sport, and the more people in the sport, the more people will appreciate the out doors. Some trails can't handle them but we should absolutely not ban them outright.
58 I don't think ebikes are that different from regular mountain bikes, so I don't see why they need 1/30/2020 1:42 PM a separate group. I think what we need is education among both groups of our shared goals and how we can more effectively reach our goals as a united front.
59 No 1/30/2020 1:36 PM
60 Some newer trails seem to be built very tight. Without elevation or features these trails can 1/30/2020 1:36 PM seem to drag on. If you keep them fast and flowy I think it would make things more interesting. I'd love to see some more advanced tech trails. I think Stony and its revamp could be a great spot for that. Also thanks for everything and I hope to get more involved in the future. Unfortunately the job I currently have doesnt allow me much free time.
61 n/a 1/30/2020 1:06 PM
62 Thank you for all you do CRAMBA! I really appreciate you 1/30/2020 1:00 PM
63 Great survey! 1/30/2020 12:54 PM
64 Keep up with the good work, especially in engaging land managers so that our trails stay in 1/30/2020 12:52 PM good repair, are rerouted and restored when needed, and are expanded where possible.
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65 As far as the pump track goes, it is a pretty big investment, so putting it in the most densely 1/30/2020 12:51 PM populated area with the highest-use park seems appropriate (something connected to Paint Creek complex?). I don't see it being as important as developing new, professionally built single track, but both can happen (with funding, of course).
66 Nothing comes to mind. 1/30/2020 12:38 PM
67 More membership input asked for during quarterly meetings vs board meetings. The 1/30/2020 12:31 PM Membership is no longer as involved since the board structure has been in place.
68 No 1/30/2020 12:29 PM
69 N/A 1/30/2020 12:28 PM
70 In regards to previous question and eBike advocacy, Class 1 should just be considered another 1/30/2020 12:22 PM type of bicycle and be included in traditional advocacy efforts.
71 Keep up the good work and no “E” bikes allowed on our trails! 1/30/2020 12:22 PM
72 No 1/30/2020 12:21 PM
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Q28 Would you like to share your contact information in case we'd like to respond to you?
Answered: 198 Skipped: 11
Yes 4433...9944%%
No 5566...0066%%
0% 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100%
ANSWER CHOICES RESPONSES
Yes 43.94% 87
No 56.06% 111 TOTAL 198
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Q29 What kind of biking do you do on trails?
Answered: 208 Skipped: 1
Mountain Biking 9999...5522%%
Road / Gravel 6633...4466%% / Path Biking 6633..4466%%
Commuting 11100...11100%%
0% 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100%
ANSWER CHOICES RESPONSES
Mountain Biking 99.52% 207
Road / Gravel / Path Biking 63.46% 132
Commuting 10.10% 21 Total Respondents: 208
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Q30 What types of mountain biking do you do?
Answered: 207 Skipped: 2
XC (Cross 9933...2244%% Country) /... 9933..2244%%
Fatbiking 5544...5599%%
Freeride 2200...2299%%
Downhill 11166...99111%%
Bikepacking 11144...9988%%
Dirt Jumping 11122...0088%%
BMX 33...8866%%
Mountain 111...4455%% Unicycle (MUNI) 11..4455%%
0% 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100%
ANSWER CHOICES RESPONSES
XC (Cross Country) / Trail 93.24% 193
Fatbiking 54.59% 113
Freeride 20.29% 42
Downhill 16.91% 35
Bikepacking 14.98% 31
Dirt Jumping 12.08% 25
BMX 3.86% 8
Mountain Unicycle (MUNI) 1.45% 3 Total Respondents: 207
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Q31 For how many years have you been riding bikes?
Answered: 207 Skipped: 2
AA YYeeaarr oorr LLeessss 00...9977%% (((22))) 22---55 YYeeaarrss 11166...99111%% (((3355)))
55---11100 YYeeaarrss 11144...9988%% (((33111)))
MMoorree tthhaann 11100 YYeeaarrss 6677...11155%% (((1113399)))
ANSWER CHOICES RESPONSES
A Year or Less 0.97% 2
2-5 Years 16.91% 35
5-10 Years 14.98% 31
More than 10 Years 67.15% 139 TOTAL 207
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Q32 Do you race?
Answered: 207 Skipped: 2
I'm on a team! 111111...111111%%
Frequently 55...8800%%
Sometimes 2288...9999%%
No 3388...6655%%
I used to, but 11155...4466%% not anymore 1155..4466%%
0% 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100%
ANSWER CHOICES RESPONSES
I'm on a team! 11.11% 23
Frequently 5.80% 12
Sometimes 28.99% 60
No 38.65% 80
I used to, but not anymore 15.46% 32 TOTAL 207
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Q33 What level rider do you consider yourself?
Answered: 207 Skipped: 2
BBeeggiiinnnneerr 44...8833%% (((11100)))
PPrreettttyy GGoooodd,,, aanndd GGeettttiiinngg BBeetttteerr EExxppeerriiieenncceedd EExxppeerriieenncceedd 5555...5566%% (((11111155))) 3399...66111%% (((8822))) 5555..5566%% ((111155))
ANSWER CHOICES RESPONSES
Experienced 55.56% 115
Pretty Good, and Getting Better 39.61% 82
Beginner 4.83% 10 TOTAL 207
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Q34 What kind of trails do you like to ride?
Answered: 207 Skipped: 2
Natural Surface
Along Rivers and Lakes
Remote / Isolated
Steep Descending
Man-Made Technical...
Steep Climbing
Smooth
Rocky
Rooty
Near Towns / Cities
Flat
Water Crossings
Sandy
Muddy / Wet
0% 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100%
I Don't Like Them They Are Just Fine I Love Them!
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I DON'T LIKE THEY ARE JUST I LOVE TOTAL WEIGHTED THEM FINE THEM! AVERAGE Natural Surface 0.49% 15.53% 83.98% 1 32 173 206 2.83
Along Rivers and Lakes 0.00% 22.33% 77.67% 0 46 160 206 2.78
Remote / Isolated 0.97% 29.61% 69.42% 2 61 143 206 2.68
Steep Descending 6.80% 30.58% 62.62% 14 63 129 206 2.56
Man-Made Technical 6.83% 35.12% 58.05% Features 14 72 119 205 2.51
Steep Climbing 10.14% 39.61% 50.24% 21 82 104 207 2.40
Smooth 4.41% 58.33% 37.25% 9 119 76 204 2.33
Rocky 13.24% 45.10% 41.67% 27 92 85 204 2.28
Rooty 13.17% 47.32% 39.51% 27 97 81 205 2.26
Near Towns / Cities 8.29% 58.54% 33.17% 17 120 68 205 2.25
Flat 10.78% 66.67% 22.55% 22 136 46 204 2.12
Water Crossings 24.15% 46.86% 28.99% 50 97 60 207 2.05
Sandy 45.37% 43.90% 10.73% 93 90 22 205 1.65
Muddy / Wet 73.17% 21.46% 5.37% 150 44 11 205 1.32
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Q35 How does your dog accompany you on the trails?
Answered: 35 Skipped: 174
While on Foot 9977...11144%%
While Biking 33111...4433%%
0% 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100%
ANSWER CHOICES RESPONSES
While on Foot 97.14% 34
While Biking 31.43% 11 Total Respondents: 35
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Q36 Do you leash your dog on trails?
Answered: 35 Skipped: 174
77...6699%%
3300...7777%% When Biking 3388...4466%%
2233...0088%%
3388...77111%%
2255...88111%% When On Foot 2299...0033%%
66...4455%%
0% 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100%
Always Sometimes / Depends On The Trail Only When Others Are Around Rarely / Never
ALWAYS SOMETIMES / DEPENDS ON THE ONLY WHEN OTHERS ARE RARELY / TOTAL TRAIL AROUND NEVER When Biking 7.69% 30.77% 38.46% 23.08% 1 4 5 3 13
When On 38.71% 25.81% 29.03% 6.45% Foot 12 8 9 2 31
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Q37 Do you plan to join CRAMBA or renew your membership?
Answered: 0 Skipped: 209
! No matching responses.
ANSWER CHOICES RESPONSES
Yes 0.00% 0
No 0.00% 0
TOTAL 0
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Q38 Why don't you plan to join CRAMBA or renew your membership?
Answered: 0 Skipped: 209
! No matching responses.
ANSWER CHOICES RESPONSES
It's too expensive. 0.00% 0
I'm not a mountain biker. 0.00% 0
I'm a member of another mountain biking group. 0.00% 0
I don't agree with CRAMBA's mission. 0.00% 0
I don't support IMBA. 0.00% 0
I don't like the work CRAMBA has been doing. 0.00% 0
Other (please specify) 0.00% 0
Total Respondents: 0
# OTHER (PLEASE SPECIFY) DATE There are no responses.
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