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Committee Report REGULAR CALENDAR

January 16, 2018

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

REPORT OF COMMITTEE

The Majority of the Committee on Criminal Justice and

Public Safety to which was referred HB 1542,

AN ACT relative to carrying a pistol or revolver on university system and community college system property. Having considered the same, report the same with the following resolution: RESOLVED, that it is

INEXPEDIENT TO LEGISLATE.

p. Beth Rodd

FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMITTEE

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Committee: Criminal Justice and Public Safety Bill Number: HB 1542 Title: relative to carrying a pistol or revolver on university system and community college system property. Date: January 16, 2018 Consent Calendar: REGULAR Recommendation: INEXPEDIENT TO LEGISLATE

STATEMENT OF INTENT

Students carrying arms on college campuses presents issues of concern to college officials, security personnel, parents and students. In the event of an active shooter incident, it might be unclear who was the shooter and who was the defender. This could have fatal consequences for innocent bystanders. The youngest students on our campuses are adolescents who may be experimenting with alcohol and/or other mind altering substances that may have an effect on judgment and behavior. Providing youngsters with arms in a college environment is not in the bet interest of the college community.

Vote 15-5.

Rep. Beth Rodd FOR THE MAJORITY

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Criminal Justice and Public Safety HE 1542, relative to carrying a pistol or revolver on university system and community college system property. MAJORITY: INEXPEDIENT TO LEGISLATE. MINORITY: OUGHT TO PASS WITH AMENDMENT. Rep. Beth Rodd for the Majority of Criminal Justice and Public Safety. Students carrying arms on college campuses presents issues of concern to college officials, security personnel, parents and students. In the event of an active shooter incident, it might be unclear who was the shooter and who was the defender. This could have fatal consequences for innocent bystanders. The youngest students on our campuses are adolescents who may be experimenting with alcohol and/or other mind altering substances that may have an effect on judgment and behavior. Providing youngsters with arms in a college environment is not in the bet interest of the college community. Vote 15-5.

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The Minority of the Committee on Criminal Justice and

Public Safety to which was referred HB 1542,

AN ACT relative to carrying a pistol or revolver on university system and community college system property. Having considered the same, and being unable to agree with the Majority, report with the following amendment, and the recommendation that the bill OUGHT TO PASS WITH AMENDMENT.

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STATEMENT OF INTENT

The minority of the committee knows that the University System of New Hampshire and Community College System of New Hampshire are imposing a gun ban that is not authorized by statute. Even though we feel that this bill is not needed, we supported it because we felt that sometimes, unneeded legislation is just what is needed to force officials to back down from illegal policies which are prohibiting law abiding adults from making their own personal protection choices. Colleges in New Hampshire are not shielded from what happened at Virginia Polytech in Blacksburg, VA where 32 young people were murdered or Umpqua Community College in Roseburg, Oregon where 10 young people were murdered. The committee found many N.H. colleges do not have armed security. The right to protection of one's self is guaranteed in the Constitution and should be respected by college administration and the General Court.

Rep. John Burt FOR THE MINORITY

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Criminal Justice and Public Safety HB 1542, relative to carrying a pistol or revolver on university system and community college system property. OUGHT TO PASS WITH AMENDMENT, Rep. John Burt for the Minority of Criminal Justice and Public Safety. The minority of the committee knows that the University System of New Hampshire and Community College System of New Hampshire are imposing a gun ban that is not authorized by statute. Even though we feel that this bill is not needed, we supported it because we felt that sometimes, unneeded legislation is just what is needed to force officials to back down from illegal policies which are prohibiting law abiding adults from making their own personal protection choices. Colleges in New Hampshire are not shielded from what happened at Virginia Polytech in Blacksburg, VA where 32 young people were murdered or Umpqua Community College in Roseburg, Oregon where 10 young people were murdered. The committee found many N.H. colleges do not have armed security. The right to protection of one's self is guaranteed in the Constitution and should be respected by college administration and the General Court.

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The minority of the committee knows that the university system of New Hampshire and community college system of New Hampshire are imposing a gun ban that is not authorized by statute. Even though we feel HB 1542 is not needed, we supported it because we felt that sometimes, unneeded legislation is just what is needed to force officials to back down from illegal policies which are . prohibiting law abiding adults from making their own personal protection choices. Colleges in New Hampshire are not shielded from what happened at Virginia Polytech in Blacksburg, VA where 32 young people were murdered or Umpqua Community College in Roseburg, Oregon where 10 young people were murdered. The committee found many NH colleges do not have armed security. The right to protection of one's self is guaranteed in the Constitution and should be respected by college administration and the General Court.

Rep. John Burt FOR THE MINORITY

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Amendment to HB 1542

1 Amend the title of the bill by replacing it with the following: 2 • 3 AN ACT relative to carrying a concealed pistol or revolver indoors on campus and on 4 campus grounds of the university system and community college system of New 5 Hampshire. 6 7 Amend the bill by replacing sections 1 and 2 with the following:

9 1 New Section; State College and University System; Carrying a Concealed Pistol or Revolver. 10 Amend RSA 187-A by inserting after section 16-b the following new section: 11 187-A:16-c Carrying a Concealed Pistol or Revolver on University System Property. Any 12 person not otherwise prohibited by New Hampshire or federal law from possessing a firearm may 13 carry a concealed pistol or revolver indoors on any university system campus and on campus 14 grounds. Nothing in this section shall be construed to grant the university system of New 15 Hampshire any additional authority to regulate firearms on its property beyond what is contained 16 in state or federal statute. 17 2 New Section; Community College System of New Hampshire; Carrying a Concealed Pistol or 18 Revolver. Amend RSA 188-F by inserting after section 21-a the following new section: 19 188-F:21-b Carrying a Pistol or Revolver on Community College System Property. Any person 20 not otherwise prohibited by New Hampshire or federal law from possessing a firearm may carry a 21 concealed pistol or revolver indoors on any community college system campus and on campus 22 grounds. Nothing in this section shall be construed to grant the community college system of New 23 Hampshire any additional authority to regulate firearms on its property beyond what is contained 24 in state or federal statute. Amendment to HB 1542 - Page 2 -

2018-0044h AMENDED ANALYSIS This bill allows any person who is not otherwise prohibited by state or federal law to carry a concealed pistol or revolver indoors on campus and on the campus grounds of the university system of New Hampshire and the community college system of New Hampshire. Karwocki, Karen

From: [email protected] Sent: Friday, February 02, 2018 6:28 PM To: Karwocki, Karen Subject: RE: NEW Blurb HB 1542

Just getting home from work. Sorry for the late response. Yes it is OTP/A It is the Stone amendment 0044h. Allows students to carry in buildings.

Thanks for checking with me and keeping me on the correct side. John

Original Message Subject: RE: NEW Blurb HB 1542 From: "Karwocki, Karen" Date: Fri, February 02, 2018 8:59 am To: "lohn©burtnh.corn"

Hi John, what is the Minority motion? I had OTPA for some reason but in looking at the blurb and backup I am not sure why. The only amendment I have is 0044h by Rep. Stone

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 8:58 PM To: Karwocki, Karen; David Welch Subject: NEW Blurb HB 1542

Hi David and Karen,

Here is the new and improved blurb I would like to use on SB 1542. Please inform me if there are any issues which I see none.

Thank you, John Burt Blurb HB 1542 2018 Session 01/ 18/2018 AN ACT relative to carrying a pistol or revolver on university system and community college system property.

The minority of the committee knows that the university

1 system of New Hampshire and community college system of New Hampshire are imposing a gun ban that is not authorized by statute. Even though we feel HB 1542 is not needed, we supported it because we felt that sometimes, unneeded legislation is just what is needed to force officials to back down from illegal policies which are prohibiting law abiding adults from making their own personal protection choices. Colleges in New Hampshire are not shielded from what happened at Virginia Polytech in Blacksburg, VA where 32 young people were murdered or Umpqua Community College in Roseburg, Oregon where 10 young people were murdered. The committee found many NH colleges do not have armed security. The right to protection of one's self is guaranteed in the Constitution and should be respected by college administration and the General Court.

Rep John Burt for the minority of Criminal Justice and Public Safety:

Sincerely, NH Representative John A. Burt Goffstown

2 Karwocki, Karen

From: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 8:58 PM To: Karwocki, Karen; David Welch Subject: NEW Blurb HB 1542

Hi David and Karen,

Here is the new and improved blurb I would like to use on SB 1542. Please inform me if there are any issues which I see none.

Thank you, John Burt Blurb HB 1542 2018 Session 01/18/2018 AN ACT relative to carrying a pistol or revolver on university system and Community college system property.

The minority of the committee knows that the university system of New Hampshire and community college system of New Hampshire are imposing a gun ban that is not authorized by statute. Even though we feel HB 1542 is not needed, we supported it because we felt that sometimes, unneeded legislation is just what is needed to force officials to back down from illegal policies which are prohibiting law abiding adults from making their own personal protection choices. Colleges in New Hampshire are not shielded from what happened at Virginia Polytech in Blacksburg, VA where 32 young people were murdered or Umpqua Community College in Roseburg, Oregon where 10 young people were murdered. The committee found many NH colleges do not have armed security. The right to protection of one's self is guaranteed in the Constitution and should be respected by college administration and the General Court.

Rep John Burt for the minority of Criminal Justice and Public Safety: Sincerely, NH Representative John A. Burt Goffstown

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2018 Session 01/16/2018 AN ACT relative to carrying a pistol or revolver on university system and community college system property.

The minority of the committee knows that the university system of New Hampshire and community college system of New Hampshire is not shielded from what happened at Virginia Polytech in Blacksburg, VA where 32 young people were gunned down or Umpqua Community College in Roseburg, Oregon where 10 young people were gunned down. HB 1542 would have allowed adult college students to make the choice to carry a sidearm for protections that the above NH colleges cannot give. The committee found many NH colleges listed above do not have armed security. The right to protection of one's self is guaranteed in the Constitution.

Rep John Burt for the minority of Criminal Justice and Public Safety:

Sincerely, NH Representative John A. Burt Goffstown Voting Sheets HOUSE COMMITTEE ON CRIMINAL JUSTICE AND PUBLIC SAFETY

EXECUTIVE SESSION on HB 1542

BILL TITLE: relative to carrying a pistol or revolver on university system and community college system property.

DATE: January 16, 2018

LOB ROOM: 204

MOTIONS: INEXPEDIENT TO LEGISLATE

Moved by Rep. Rodd Seconded by Rep. Fields Vote: 15-5

CONSENT CALENDAR: NO

Statement of Intent: Refer to Committee Report

Respectfully submitted,

Rep Delmar Burridge, Clerk

HOUSE COMMITTEE ON CRIMINAL JUSTICE AND PUBLIC SAFETY

EXECUTIVE SESSION on HB 1542

BILL TITLE: relative to carrying a pistol or revolver on university system and community college system property.

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LOB ROOM: 204

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PUBLIC HEARING ON HB 1542

BILL TITLE: relative to carrying a pistol or revolver on university system and community college system property.

DATE: January 11, 2018

LOB ROOM: 204 Time Public Hearing Called to Order: 10:40

Time Adjourned:

Committee Members: Reps. Welch, Sapareto, Fields, Fesh, Gagne, Burt, Green, Gargasz, Ham, McNally, Testerman, Wallace, Chandley, Pantelakos, Berube, Cushing, Rodd, Murray, O'Leary, Opderbecke and Burridge

Bill Sponsors: Rep. Stone

TESTIMONY

Rep Stone-Amendment 2018-5044 H-Former Police Officer

*Anna Brown- Citizen's Count- Support of 2nd Ammendment

*Paul Dean-UNH -Oppose John Stevens-CCSNH-Oppose

*Valerie Fagin-Portsmouth- Oppose

*Deb Howard-North Hampton-Opposed/Dangerous Emma Fairholm-Support

Hon Joe Hannon-Support

Ralph Matthews-Support

Wayne Burton-

Ian Freeman-Keene-Support

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Rep. Delmar Burridge, Clerk HOUSE COMMITTEE ON CRIMINAL JUSTICE AND PUBLIC SAFETY

PUBLIC HEARING ON HB 1542

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My name is Deidre Reynolds. I have lived in Nashua New Hampshire for 25 years and I have a daughter that attends a local public university.

I oppose House Bill 1542 because it would put college students, faculty, and staff in danger, and force guns on to campuses and into high-risk situations where they have no place.

This bill would force the state's public universities and community colleges to allow guns on their campuses, allowing anyone who can legally possess firearms, including those without concealed carry permits and who haven't passed background checks or completed safety training, to carry handguns on the "exterior grounds," which could include open-air stadiums, quads and other places where students socialize.

I do not want my daughter put in a dangerous situation or to have to think about the consequences of walking back to her dorm at night or even during the day!

As a mom I send my children to school to receive an education, I send them there thinking they are safe. Allowing guns on campus would change that dramatically.

HB 1542 is not good for our state, our community and especially our students. I urge you to oppose this bill.

Thank you, Deidre Reynolds Nashua NH I I :Sseaftist University System. COMMUNITY COLLEGE of New Hampshire system of New Hampshire

January 10, 2018

Honorable David Welch, Chairman House Criminal Justice & Public Safety Committee Legislative Office Building, Rm. 204 Concord, NH 03301

Dear Chairman Welch and Members of the House Criminal Justice & Public Safety Committee:

As career law enforcement professionals whose expertise includes campus-based public safety and security, we write to express our opposition to HB 1542, relative to carrying a pistol or revolver on university system and community college system property. Such a law would jeopardize the safety of students, staff, and guests on the public college campuses in the state. Our opposition is on behalf of the University System of NH and the Community College System of NH and reflects our decades of service in law enforcement in New Hampshire.

Thousands of students who live and study on New Hampshire's public college campuses are young and continuing to mature. We also recognize that anxiety, depression, and substance abuse are concerns on college campuses across the country. Given the demographics of our campuses it is no surprise that impetuous behavior does occur. There is no credible evidence to suggest that students carrying firearms would reduce violence on our college campuses, but we can easily see how introducing firearms into this environment would unnecessarily jeopardize the lives of students, employees, visitors, and law enforcement.

We are proud of our record of ensuring these are safe places for our students to grow and for our faculty and staff to work. Shootings such as those that attract national attention are tragic. In the universe of gun violence, however, these events are very rare. In fact, America's colleges and universities are among the safest environments for students and visitors. The most recent U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics report on this issue found that 93% of violence against college students age 18-24 occurs off-campus. Locally, statistics from the FBI and the National Center for Education demonstrate the safety of our campuses. In fact, two recent national reports have ranked UNH as the safest college campus in the country, and the Town of Durham as the safest college town in the country. We believe this success, nationally and here in New Hampshire, is largely attributable to the fact that the vast majority of colleges and universities have policies that prohibit the possession of firearms on campus. In addition to safety concerns, we believe this law could negatively impact enrollment at our campuses with students and parents choosing campuses they believe to be safer because of prohibitions on firearms. We'd also expect the law to increase costs for our campuses related to the installation of gun safes in residence halls, higher liability insurance rates, and newfound litigation risk. The combined impact of both these effects could result in higher tuition rates for our students.

In consultation with our police and security forces and local law enforcement, and considering the safety interests of our students, faculty and staff members, our boards have enacted policies that prohibit firearms on our campuses. We believe these policies strike the appropriate balance for our communities, and experience has shown they have worked for our campuses. We would request that you defeat this bill and maintain the existing authority of our trustees to regulate this issue to ensure, to the greatest extent possible, the safety of our public institutions of higher education.

Sincerely,

Paul Dean John Stevens Chief of Police Board of Trustees/Chair, Safety Committee University of New Hampshire Community College System of New Hampshire Hi my name is Deb Howard and I live in North Hampton. I am here today to oppose bill #1542.

This bill should not pass because under current law New Hampshire colleges and universities can and do regulate where and if guns are allowed on their campuses. This bill would force the state's public universities, colleges, and community colleges (the University System of New Hampshire and the Community College System of New Hampshire) to allow anyone who can legally possess firearms to carry handguns on the "exterior grounds" of their campuses-- such as open air stadiums, quads, and other places where students socialize. We should continue to allow our colleges to make their own decisions regarding the safety of their employees and students.

HB 1542 is an extreme and dangerous policy that would make NH only the second state in the country to force colleges to allow people to carry guns on their grounds without first obtaining a concealed carry permit. Of the few states that force guns onto college campuses, most require permits to ensure that those who carry have passed a background check and, in some cases, undergone additional safety training.

Guns can turn risky behaviors on college campuses into deadly situations. Suicide is among the leading causes of death for college-age adults [American College Health Association], while binge drinking was reported by nearly half of NH college students and is above the national average [2011, National Survey on Drug Use and Health (NSDUH)].

Finally, New Hampshire universities, community colleges and law enforcement oppose this bill, including the University System of New Hampshire, the Community College System of New Hampshire, the Association of New Hampshire Police Chiefs, and the University of New Hampshire Police Chief, Paul Dean.

Vote no on HB1542

Deb Howard North Hampton NH Citizens Count NH Live Free or Die Alliance

Ilr\ Til GUNS ON CAMPUS? January 3, 20.18

A bill sponsored by state Rep. Brian Stone (R- Northwood) would prevent public colleges and universities in New Hampshire from passing restrictions on carrying firearms outdoors on campus grounds.

According to Rep. Stone, the bill is in the process of being amended to specifically ban prohibitions on concealed carrying of pistols and revolvers. The amended text will also prohibit restrictions on concealed carrying of pistols and revolvers indoors while on campus.

CONTENTS:

Citizen Voices® summary report 1

Full Facebook discussion 4

Citizen Voices® methodology 72

Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542

Citizen Voices® Summary Report:

"Should NH guarantee the right of gun owners to carry their weapons while outdoors.on state college or university campuses?" Discussion held on Citizens Count NH website and Facebook page January 3, 2018

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WHAT PARTICIPANTS SAID

Yes: 263 people were in favor of guaranteeing the rights of gun owners to carry their weapons while on campus.

• "Last I checked, the constitution says we the people have the right to keep and bear arms, and no government is allowed to infringe on that. Not being able to bear my arms at a college or university is an illegal infringement." • "Yes... students should have the right to protect themselves just like anyone else." • "They should be allowed to carry concealed anywhere on campus."

No: 52 people were against guaranteeing the right of gun owners to carry their weapons on campus.

• "This is up to the school. If a school wants no guns on their campus that is their right." • "Young adults, raging hormones, alcohol and guns are a disgracefully dangerous mix." • "Why on Earth would you allow guns on campuses when NH has no history of gun violence on college campuses? You're just increasing the risk of injury/death."

Other: 31 people commented on related questions and issues instead. These included:

• Carrying firearms: "I would rather people conceal carry than open carry."

• Education policy: "I maintain that there should be separation of education and state." Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 3

o Impacted population: "Since you need to be 21 to buy a pistol we're not talking about 15-16 year old kids."

*Editor selection of actual participant quotes. Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 4

The Live Free or Die Alliance January 3 at 2 00pm • Should NH guarantee the right of gun owners to carry their weapons while outdoors on state college or university campuses? *Note: according to the bill sponsor, this bill is being amended to specifically address concealed carrying of pistols and revolvers. The provisions will also be expanded to ban restrictions on concealed carrying indoors on campus. Vote #Yes or #No and tell us why. This discussion will be summarized and shared with legislators considering HB 1542. Only responses from New Hampshire residents are included in the summary. Please indicate in your response if you are from New Hampshire. Learn more at https://www.lfda.org/.../should-nh-guarantee-right-gun-owners...

Should NH guarantee the right of gun owners to carry their weapons while outdoors on state college or university campuses?

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John Young #Yes NH resident . Should be no different from anyplace else. WI January 3 at 2:01pm David Headley #YES, NH Resident. They should be allowed to carry concealed anywhere on campus. January 3 at 2:02pm David Conrad #yes nh resident January 3 at 2:03pm Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 5

Racquel Symkowicz ItYes. NH Resident. January 3 at 2:03pm Brandon Klardie Ryes NH resident January 3 at 2:04pm John Best Shall not be infringed is not open to interpretation. 7 • January 3 at 2:04pm a• d Bill Flanagan How do you interpret" well regulated" ? January 3 at 2:29pm John Best Keep the soldiers sober so they'll shoot at politicians and not each other. 1 • January 3 at 2;31prn Graham McKinnon Bill Flanagan Well regulated when written referred to being trained in the use and maintenance 4 • January 3 at 3:16pm

Kg ' Christopher Andrew Sanders #yes . itinhresident ftjustgiveconstituionalcarry. e j January 3 at 2:05pm Walt Costa itYES, NH resident U January 3 at 2.05pm 5A aic O'Hare tlYES Absolutely!!! IPadrJanuary 3 at 2:06pm David Peever Eyes - @nashua January 3 at 2 06pm ,,,,,Brian Breen Yesl Vt resident tho haha ,a January 3 at 2:06pm Franklin Ritter #YES NH RESIDENT. absolutely.. 1 • January 3 at 2:06pm e Michael Papps #yes. W January 3 at 2:07pm val Buddy Brazil Yes. 1,inhres tn, 1 January 3 at 2:07pm Edited Erik Makinen You can bring it into the State House.. why not college? 4 • January 3 at 2:07pm James Longfellow Yes. NH resident January 3 at 2:07pm Paul Boutin RYES Resident January 3 at 2:07pm Jen Rukstela Ryes NH resident January 3 at 2•08pm Scott Johnson If it is a state college, yes. 1 - January 3 at 2:08pm David Waterman ityes. NH resident. "Gun free zones" do not work. Rather, they're free fire zones. 1 • January 3 at 2:09pm Phil Hamel Why NOT.. nuary 3 at 2:10pm Patricia Spina Yes! NH resident... 1 • January 3 at 2:11pm Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on FIB 1542 6

Bob Alan Yes January 3 at 2:12pm Dick Fournier Of course, its a right January 3 at 2:12pm Mikey Savage Yes. January 3 at 2:12pm Elizabeth Arnold ffyes 1 • January 3 at 2:13pm Kevin Leandro ffyes NH Resident, collage campuses should support all constitutional rights, not just free speech! January 3 at 2:15pm • Edited Branka Markovic YES YES YES El January 3 at 2:15pm Cheryl Heymans ffNo-NH resident. Guns and college kids boozing it up don't mix. January 3 at 2:15pm

Phil Perry So I guess your opinion makes the 2nd amendment of the constitution null and void. How does it feel to be so important? 1 - January 3 at 3:23pm

Francis Vincent Santospago Guns kids and booze not good! January 3 at 2:15pm Ashley Adams 4s/es January 3 at 2:15pm Patrick Donald Binder There is no guarantee. State agents can respect the natural right or be criminals. #yes #nhresident 1 • January 3 at 2:16pm Stephen Noble #yes #NHResident the US constitution does say "shall not be infringed", which is pretty clear to me. 3 January 3 at 2:16pr1

Bob Robertson The NH Constitution is even less wishy-washy:

"All persons have the right to keep and bear arms in defense of themselves, their families, their property and the state." 1 • January 3 at 6:26pm

Patrick Hayden Russell Yes. January 3 at 2:16pm Lauren C Weinstock No. anuary 3 at 2:16pm Alex Kish #yes. Absolutely. NH resident. Evil people don't magically turn good in gun free zones. That I even have to state this, is disheartening. 1 • January 3 at 2:16pm Patrick Hayden Russell Different pic may be needed though nobody carries a desert eagle. 1 • January 3 at 2:16pm

Stevie Balint Well, unless you're "Bullet Tooth" Tony. January 3 at 2:53pm Bob Robertson But, but, this one LOOKS SCARY! January 3 at 6:26pm Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 7

Jeremy Lavers they couldn't have just used a Glock 26, LC9, Shield etc...had to be a mirror polished too pretty to shoot Desert Eagle? January 3 at 9:16pm

Gilles Montminy I believe as a state-run college or university or subsidy that cannot take away the right -4 for you to carry your firearm is a state law not subject to restriction 1 • January 3 at 2:17pm George Goodwin Yes January 3 at 2:17pm Anthony James //Yes NH resident 1 • January 3 at 2:17pm Bob Grogan Yes January 3 at 2:18pm Gilles Montminy And if I'm wrong how can a state law be compromised by state-run entity I can carry my gun in the State House on a college campus should be no different 2 • January 3 at 2:18pm Mike Ruff #Yes #NHresident

1. State Colleges/Universities, just as with towns and cities, are not allowed to make different rules under existing State Preemption of weapons laws--thus any such existing laws are null and void.

2. People do not give up their right to self defense merely because they step onto a different piece of public property. 4 • January 3 at 2:18pm Chris Fowler #YES 1 January 3 at 2:19pm Burt Janz /Nes - granted that booze and guns don't mix, but it doesn't matter whether we're talking about college kids or adults, in private homes or bars, concerts and/or sports venues. If a crime is perpetrated with a firearm, the person perpetrating the crime - whether drunk or sober - should pay the full cost of the crime. But let's not act like everyone is a criminal: some students are incredibly responsible -- and disarming female students plays directly into the "we won't let you defend yourself against a rapist" dialogue. Keep and bear - without infringement. 3 • January 3 at 2:19pm

Stevie Balint Any responsible gun owner knows they don't mix. El 1 • January 3 at 2:57pm Burt Janz Yes, and most (not all) responsible gun owners won't drink to excess while carrying. The rare exceptions prove the rule. January 3 at 5:12pm Edited

,.. Sara Ann Styes my rights shouldn't be negotiable 7 , n\:. 4 • January 3 at 2:19pm Barbara McClory ityes NH resident 1 January 3 at 2:20prn Gary Savage Yes 1 • January 3 at 2.21 pm Heather Nearing //yes! I side on campus as well. 2 • January 3 at 2:21pm Bernard Edgar Allard Dauphinais Mo. NH resident. 1 • January 3 at 2 22pm Mike Furbush # yes NH resident. IN 1 • January 3 at 2:22pm Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 8

Steven Dochtermann Yes.... They already have that right. Live free or die right? 3 i January 3 at 2:22pm Dustin Drew ffyes nh resident 1 ! January 3 at 2:22pm Patrick Dunaway dyes NH resident IN 1 ! January 3 at 2.23pm Jard Allanson I'm going to take issue with the following sentence in your summary.

"Currently, some state schools—such as the University of New Hampshire—do not allow firearms on campus, whether indoors or outdoors."

Use of the word "allow" here is entirely inappropriate. Carrying wherever you want, per the second amendment and the basic principles of human freedom, is the default state of things. In order for firearms to be permissible on campuses the school would have to simply do nothing. However this question implies that the schools have apparently gone out of their way to institute a ban. So the true question here should be, how or why does current law give schools authority to create exemptions to the 2nd amendment? Does it? If so then address the issue there and remove whatever unconstitutional law is already in place. If not, i.e. if there is in fact no such exemption per the law, then the school is violating the constitution and should be sued. What kind of enforcement mechanism is currently in place that would enable the school to enforce such a ban? 3 ! January 3 at 2:24pm Edited

Jeff Ramsey What they don't know could save lives January 3 at 2:28pm

Bill Flanagan ffno ,it should be up to the property administration. 2 ! January 3 at 2:25pm

Bob Robertson The schools are not private property. 1 ' January 3 at 6:28pin Bill Flanagan The are supervised and maintained by the schools administration ,who are also responsible for student safety and education. While owned by the State there are plenty of places on campus that you cannot gain entrance if you are not a student or staff. It is not a public park, they certainly can control who is alllowed on campus and who is not. January 3 at 10 02pm

Jay Doherty Leave it up to each business/University/land owner. 1 January 3 at 2:25pm Laurie M. Coppola You want a real answer to that, with the gun lobbies running the country through mentally defective elected officials. Why don't you just arm every moving thing, let them all kill each other, and let us know when it's over and safe to come out! 1 ! January 3 at 2:25pm

Steven Barrette Victim you will always be 4 ! January 3 at 2 26prn Bob Robertson Laurie, it's called America. Firearms are, and always have been, an integral part of the culture and society. While I would never tell you that you had to own a firearm, it is utterly false to call American culture a "gun lobbie". 2 January 3 at 3 56pm Roland Six Easily triggered, you are. January 5 at 11 llam

Jeff Ramsey INES! NH resident. My safety comes before others feelings! 1 January 3 at 2:26pm Alec Cahn Isn't it odd how conservatives scream for states' rights, except when it comes to guns. 1 ! January 3 at 2:26pm Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 9

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Stevie Balint How is this not about states rights when its a NH specific question? 1 January 3 at 2.55pm NJ Alec Cahn Stevie Balint did you notice all the conservatives are quoting the US Constitution and not the State of NH Constitution? January 3 at 3:29pm Bri Roy Thomas Alec Cahn Ilaal The United States Constitution is the Supreme Legal document in this country. It outlines our basic right and while states can expand on those they can't take them away. Pretty simple really. 1 • January 3 at 3 33pm Mf• Alec Cahn Roy Thomas you're missing my point. Re-read my post, before commenting, please. January 3 at 3:37pm Bob Robertson Not a conservative, and it shows. January 3 at 3 57pm E1.., Stevie Balint I agree with Roy about the US constitution being supreme law of the land. But I see what you mean, our state constitution is in favor of this by the way. 2 - January 3 at 4:03pm Alec Cahn My comment is not about the authority of either Constitution. My observation is how a people (in this case "states' rights conservatives") will change their core beliefs in order to suit a political stance. January 3 at 5:02pm Roy Thomas I'm all for states right they simply can't override the Constitution. So there is no a conflict here. January 3 at 7 06prn Sean Slattery The Tenth Amendment is still part of the Constitution... 2 • January 3 at 7 30pm Alec Cahn Roy Thomas not the point I was making nuary 3 at 8 21pm Alec Cahn Sean Slattery not the point I was making January 3 at 8 22pm Jeremy Lavers So the point you're trying to make is what exactly? 1 • January 3 at 9 21pm Steve Brogan I dont think he knows what his point is. Clearly he is looking for us to tell him lol. a 2 • January 4 at 2 29am Bob Robertson The problem with asserting the federal Constitution as implicitly (rather than explicitly) over-ruling state law, is that doing so is entirely based upon decisions of the Supreme Court.

Thus the old saying that the 2nd Amendment had not been "incorporated" into the Bill of Rights, since the Supreme Court had not openly asserted the 2nd against states' regulations as it had done with the 1st, 4th, 5th, etc.

With the Heller decision, this is no longer the case.

However, the Right to Keep and Bear Arms is even less ambiguous in the New Hampshire Constitution than in the federal Bill of Rights, so this is all moot anyway. January 4 at 5 49am ita Alec Cahn Bob Robertson you're still not getting my point. January 4 at 6 10am Ell Chris Hemmah You keep saying that, though there are plenty of valid statements here. Care to share your point, or did you just get derailed? Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 10

1 • January 4 at 8:11am Steve Brogan Chris Hemmah Hes just a troll with no valid point. Ignore him. 1 . January 4 at 8:20am

Jard Allanson #Yes to the sentiment, but see my conditions posted above. Why only outdoors? Someone who wants to shoot other people is not going to heed a law against carrying a firearm in a certain place, regardless of whether it is indoors or outdoors. A ban on firearms indoors only means that the murderer will choose to open fire indoors where presumably nobody else is armed. ft NH res. 3 January 3 at 2:28pm Jeff Ramsey Shall not be infringed! 2 • January 3 at 2:28pm Ellen Phillips # NO NH resident! 1 • January 3 at 2:28pm Michael Rogers #no NH resident. 1 January 3 at 2:28pm Bryan David Anthony Donofrio January 3 at 2:29pm Mark C. Richards INES - NH Resident - bad guys ignore laws. Is good guys should should have right to protect ourselves & love ones 6 January 3 at 2:30pm • Edited Carl Colburne Jr. Yes SI 1 January 3 at 2:30pm Shane Lemire #yes nh resident 2 January 3 at 2:30pm Steven Barrette ftyes - especially woman and training courses often 2 January 3 at 2:30pm

• Steven Barrette The FBI processed nearly 2.6 million applications through the National Instant Criminal Background Check System last month — the fourth busiest December since the agency began keeping track two decades ago.verielveveselivevevevesive 1 January 3 at 3:00pm

Bobby Shreenan ilyes! Never rely on police or government to save you. When seconds or minutes count, E rely on yourself! 6 January 3 at 2:31pm

• Bill Dery Ain't nobody got you. Like YOU !! January 4 at 6:24am

Thatcher B Perreault //yes 1 January 3 at 231pm Logan Gabriel ftyes resident...what part of "shall not be infringed " are you people not understanding? 3 January 3 at 2 33pin TB Bob Robertson The NH constitution has no such "flexible" language.

"All persons have the right to keep and bear arms in defense of themselves, their families, their property and the state." January 3 at 3 58pm

Keith Waite Yes it's a constitutional right 2 January 3 at 2:33pm William Doucette Yes I go concealed carry everywhere Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 11

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• Stevie Balint Well, now you don't lol. Jp January 3 at 2:53pm

P Craig Browning NO... no more guns! nuary 3 at 2:35pm

• Jack Daley You live in MA. You don't get a vote. 3 ! January 3 at 2:59pm P Craig Browning Jack Daley You wish. January 3 at 2:59pm Jack Daley You're from Ohio and live in MA. How do you possibly think you have a voice in this? It's a NH issue. Go home...you're drunk. January 4 at 7:23pm Edited

Jae Emes #yes shall not be infringed. 2 • January 3 at 2:35pm Mark Murphy Mies, NH resident. And remove the indoor restriction as well. Students shouldn't have to choose between safety and education, and gun free zones leave students less safe. 6 - January 3 at 2:36pm Donald Viel ilyes. NH resident. Refer to second amendment please. 1 . January 3 at 2:37pm Tim Forsyth Yes January 3 at 2:40pm Dennis Rose //yes from Nashua January 3 at 2:41pm Hondo Elwood Bravo Concealed? Sure why not? State land, is EVERYBODY'S land. January 3 at 2:44pm ' Edited

Jason Knapp We could get into a lot of problems if we mandate a gun must be hidden. I tend to carry this way but I don't feel I should have to just because others fear an inanimate object. 1 . January 3 at 2:50pm

Ralph Howard Yes January 3 at 2:44prn Jerry Galbraith Yes. We are not the problem. U January 3 at 2:46pm Jason Knapp #yes. January 3 at 2:48pm Paul Eschmann Yes January 3 at 248pm L--1, Tom Davis ayes 1 ' January 3 at 2:51pm Evelyn Logan Yes. Shouldn't Constitutional Carry mean that already? 4 . January 3 al 2:51 pm

• Stevie Balint Seriously. 2 - January 3 at 2:52pm

Seamus M Derby #yes when seconds count the authorities are minutes away 2 • January 3 at 2:51pm Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 12

Stevie Balint #Yes NH resident. January 3 at 2:52pm Noreen McNicholas-Callahan #yes NH resident. January 3 at 2:54pm Trish Herr ftno NH resident January 3 at 2:54pm Jason Paige #no guns are too cool for that. They're the best. January 3 at 2 55pm Martha Madsen No 1 • January 3 at 2 56pm Kate Jute Duh its in the constitution stop trying to change it! #yes January 3 at 2 58pm

• Sarah Rook the constitution has been changed a number of times for the better. January 3 at 3 07pm Sarah Rook I'm not talking about abolishing it, but maybe some better regulations and not letting them into our schools January 3 at 3 15prn ri Roy Thomas Sarah Rook 11la The are currently over 20,000 gun laws on the books. Your way hasn't worked. 2 • January 3 at 7 07pm Dan DiMare No guns in schools huh? Gee how has worked out for all the schools that have had mass shootings? Oh right January 3 at 820pm

Patrick Lozito YES nuary 3 al 2:58pm Bryan Batstone #Yes Nashua Resident January 3 at 2.53pm Keith Hoyt The 2nd ammendment does NOT say you only have the right to bear arms in certain places... January 3 at 2:59pm Gregory Berube ltyes nuary 3 at 3:00pm Deborah Jean Macie It's becoming more and more angry out there, no thanks to Trump so there will be people shot because they're the wrong color or they're suspected to be an immigrant or Muslim! Our S Melting Pot is boing over! January 3 at 3.03pm • Roswell Bob LaFrank It's a simple yes or no question Debbie. 2- January 3 at 3.05pm • Deborah Jean Macie whoops, so do you think they'll assume my answer is 'no'? January 3 at 3:23pm • Roswell Bob LaFrank Yea, I think you're good -14 1 January 3 at 5:40prn tr Mark Drake Deborah This division and hatred started under Obama.Obama praised the BLM protesters and told them to keep it going.. Then came his ANTIFA.ANTIFA is a Democrat hard left leaning organized bunch of protesters. There are NO groups who support Trump out there attacking anyone. You fear the wrong people... P.S. NOBODY is against LEGAL immigrants.. And people are just demanding our laws be followed.Hense secure our borders and let nobody without the legal right to be here come in.. Our country is only so big.lf they want a better life they need to fix the country they live in. PERIOD January 4 at 9:10am Edited Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 13

Scott Gagnon #YES IMHResident //Orford - We ought to be letting firearms into college and university buildings as well IMHO. 3 • January 3 at 3:03pm Roswell Bob LaFrank Anywhere they damn well want to. 1 • January 3 at 3:04prn Amanda Weeden liyes NH resident 1 - January 3 at 3:04pm Jan Marie Marcotte lino NH resident anuary 3 at 3:07pm gi Stephen Casano Why? 2 r January 3 at 3:20pm

Sarah Rook itNo An incredibly stressed out college student or professor or cafeteria worker doesn't need a firearm on college campuses. January 3 at 3:09pm James D. Jarvis What magic forcefield is keeping them out now? U 3 • January 3 at 3 11pm Sarah Rook Campus rules and regulations. We have campus police on site in the event of an incident, someone who's trained to respond to shootings if that were to happen. January 3 at 3:12pm James Fraser You will be dead before the campus police arrive. 1 • January 3 at 3 I 9prn Sarah Rook Depends on the situation, but since we have several on campus at all times it feels pretty safe. Instead of, say, every student in the room blindly firing at some mass shooter. January 3 at 3:20pm 1 Bob Robertson What makes college students or professors different, that they get homicidally violent when "stressed"? January 3 at 3:49pm Sarah Rook People snap under pressure, the difference would be training. They aren't trained to 1111.12 handle shootings and bomb threats and things like that. January 3 at 3 50pm Roy Thomas I can honestly say working in the firearms field and with law enforcement that police officers tend to be done of the worst shots I see. The fact that a piece of metal on a person's chest somehow makes people believe they're automatically competent is astounding. 1 January 3 at 7 10pm Mark Drake Sarah Rook Chicago has laws/rules and regs.. They still don't stop the criminal from carrying a gun and killing anyone.. When will you anti-gun people realize criminals follow NO laws???? Laws only keep the good people good.lts like a lock only the criminal will cut it.. January 4 at 9 13am Sarah Rook I'm not anti-gun, I'm anti untrained people trying to be heroes and making a situation worse January 4 at 9:14am

Lucy Pivonka #NO resident January 3 at 3:09pm Travis Kulak Ryes Shall Not Be Infringed. LIVE FREE OR DIE. 3 - January 3 at 3:09pm Justin McKinney I carry conceal. I do it where I want and when I want. Nobody is the wiser. Nor will they be UNLESS it becomes necessary to let people know. The gun free signs mean nothing to me and I don't believe they mean anything to most other law abiding citizens. They certainly don't mean anything to people who intend to commit a crime. Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 14

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Kenneth Masson Then you should lose your right to carry if you don't want to obey the laws. They apply to everyone. January 3 at 3:31pm Justin McKinney Kenneth Masson ok. How? As I said, nobody knows unless I need to tell them. It hasn't happened yet. But I'm listening to your ideas and thoughts. January 3 at 3 33pm n Roy Thomas Kenneth Masson gun free signs carry no force of law in NH. The only places legally the off limits are federal property and courts January 3 at 7:11pm Justin McKinney Roy Thomas clearly he has no idea as to how they would take away my rights. January 4 at 2 06am Mark Drake Justin McKinney The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled the police have "NO DUTY" to save your life. Only you can give yourself 100% chance of living. (unless you carry a cop in your pocket).. People legally carry around you everyday. And so do criminals. So tell me how a good citizen legally carrying is somehow taking away your rights???? If anyone is taking your rights away it's the criminal.Why because our government keeps making laws against criminals that only affect the good citizen that follows the laws to begin with. Pretty simple. January 4 at 9 21am ?re Justin McKinney Mark Drake huh? I didn't say anything indicating otherwise.... January 4 at 9 39am

Luke Sutton dyes live free or die remember? I won't be doing any of those lol anuary 3 at 3 11pm George Rogers Yes January 3 at 3 11pm James D. Jarvis ?EYES this NHresident thinks responsible adults should have the right to carry firearms in any public place. January 3 al 3 'I 2pm Wallace Stuart i/No anuary 3 at 3:12pm

Wallace Stuart NH Resident uary 3 at 3 -18pm Phil Perry So I guess your opinion makes he 2nd amendment of the constitution null and void. How does it feel to be so important? 1 i January 3 at 3 21pm or Mark Drake Phil Perry He can't speak he just gave up his 1st amendment.. January 4 at 9 22am

Brian Faucher #Yes nh res January 3 at 3.13pm Peter Gosselin Yes, then again i carry where i want E- January 3 at 3:14pm Sandra Brown No NH resident January 3 at 3:14pm

Phil Perry So I guess your opinion makes the 2nd amendment of the constitution null and void. How does it feel to be so important? January 3 at 3:22prn Sandra Brown I think the lives lost to senseless shootings are more important...you can have a gun, hunt and keep one in your home..just keep it away from me..that is my opinion and right to Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 15

speak it. 1 • January 4 al 12:16pm el. John L. Straw #yes NH resident. This is state "public" property. January 3 at 3.14pm Matt Shibles lkno nh resident. As a former security guard, armed students would terrify me 1 January 3 at 3:17pm Hide 11 Replies

Mike Burlingame Armed security guards terrify me 3 , January 3 at 3:22pm Sarah Rook Better than untrained armed students 11 1 January 3 at 3:26pm Matt Shibles I wouldnt trust my security dept armed so i agree Tr 1 January 3 at 4:41 pm Dan DiMare I love that Sarah Rook automatically assumes that anyone who isn't some kind of law enforcement is automatically to incompetent to carry a firearm 1 January 3 at 8:25pm Dan DiMare I'd trust my friends with guns over a cop any day January 3 at 8:25pm Matt Shibles If you and your friends were sober long enough to legally be able to hang onto a gun then you did college wrong. January 3 at 9 02pm Matt Shibles

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January 3 at 9:03pm Li Sarah Rook That's not what I'm implying. My concern is they don't offer a "What do to in a mass 1.353 shooting 101" when you go to pick up your hand gun 1 • January 4 at 4.4.1am Mr1 Mark Drake Sarah Rook mass shooting 101... Hide behind something till you figure out whats going on. Watch shooter and take a shot when its safe to do. Meaning don't shoot the innocent.. Apparently everyone in our country is incompetant untill you take a "sig gun safety class".. January 4 at 9:30am Matt Shibles Sounds good on paper. But i doubt a stressed college kid who is now terrified would have the composure to do anything productive. As securitywe had a law enforcement plan. Armed college kids would get in the way 1 January 4 at 10 02am • Edited Sarah Rook why are you so against people being better trained in situations where guns ate nvolved? Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 16

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Karen Dodge Yes 1/1 January 3 at 3 17pm John Bettano Yes January 3 at 3:19pm Sarah Courchaine Yes. #nhresident nuary 3 at 3:19pm Joey Gig yes January 3 at 3:22pm Phillip Dyer ityes State yes, private no January 3 at 3:22pm Jeff Swett private property or government property can post no firearms allowed. I may not like or always agree with it but there are good reasons for it. # no, NH resident January 3 at 3 22pm

Pr Mark Drake Places post no guns because they think that sign will keep out the bad guy. Hense STUPID SIGN. January 4 at 9 31am Jeff Swett Mark Drake agreed, Nothing like saying "don't worry no shooting back here" . Im".1 January 4 at 9:37am

James Smith Yes. This NH resident says that the bills if rights are unalienable. Not to be infringed. Period. January 3 at 3:23pm Ben Harrison #yes the second amendment does not stipulate borders. And what makes outdoors on college campus different than anywhere else? W Just more anti gun freedom hating drivel. 1 • January 3 at 3:24pm Ben Harrison Any legislators that makes these asinine bills should be removed from office for W wasting the state's time and resources. 1 - January 3 at 3-25prn

Mark Gangemi Ryes NH resident January 3 at 3:24pm David Ware Yes •January 3 at 3 25pm , Stephen Casano Yes NH resident January 3 at 3 23pm Roy Thomas #yes. Time and time again we have seen that attacks happen in gun free zones. Removing a person's right to lawfully defend themself makes no one safer but criminals. Aside from that the signs in NH have no force of law and the worst that can happen if you do carry and are noticed is they ask you to leave. Yes I am a New Hampshire resident and I'm growing increasingly tired of the failed liberal policies of other states being pushed here. 2 January 3 at 3 29pm Tim Navin Love how the picture just has a gun on a desk. Like someone is gonna walk in and just put their gun down next to their cell phone and red bull. 1 • January 3 at 3.29pm Jack Reilly And it's a friggin Desert Eagle haha January 3 at 5 05pm rx Todd L Holland Makes for great terrifying clickbait for silliness 1 • January 3 at 7 46pm Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 17

Vernon Brigham Yes January 3 at 3:29pm Craig Trombley Jr. #yes January 3 at 3:30pm Denis Ledoux YES YOUR 2ND AMENDMENT HAS NO BORDERS. January 3 at 3:30pm Joe Failla Yes. January 3 at 3:31pm Nathan Lambert /Ryes. January 3 at 3:32pm Brian Sullivan #yes January 3 at 3:33pm Scott Partridge #Yes NH resident. No brainer. January 3 at 3:33pm Bob Campagna YES January 3 at 3:34pm Carla Gericke #Yes NH resident (inside too!) 1 - January 3 at 335pm • Edited Elaine Swinford Yes... January 3 at 3:35pm Matt Lizzari It's not up to NH. Read the constitution! January 3 at 3:37pm Mark Drake Matt you do realize NHs Constitution supports gun rights even better than the BILL of RIGHTS.. j/s January 4 at 9 34am Matt Lizzari I do but the US constitution trumps the states for topics mentioned in the constitution. Everything else is supposed to be up to the states. January 4 at 9 55am

Alan Grant #yes State land state license 3 January 3 at 3:38pm Thomas Motyka #Yes #NHResident January 3 at 3:39pm Timothy Tigges Every state should have year's ago! January 3 at 3:40pm Kevin J. Rukstela dyes NH resident. January 3 at 3:41pm Debra Sanders Lawrence No way on College/University campuses !! 1 January 3 at 3:42pm

Jesse Garland But police can do it. 11 January 3 at 3:50pm Bob Robertson Are they not adults? Are they not human beings, with the right of self defense? 2 January 3 at 3:53pm

Kenny Scipione iltYes NH resident January 3 at 3:42pm Bill Waters Yes Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 18

January 3 at 3:42pm Michael V. Pelletier New Hampshire already does guarantee that right.Any state college or university that restricts firearms possession is in violation of RSA 159:26 and the New Hampshire Constitution. 6 - January 3 at 3:44pm Brian J. Stone Not according to case law. That RSA doesn't apply to them. Thus the legislation. January 4 at 8:00pm

John Wells Yed January 3 at 3:45pm Jeremiah Perkins YES January 3 at 3:45prn Laurie Benson Note to it-NH Residents: This was a two-part question. Very few of you have chosen to answer the second part. Reasoning is often important to evaluation of a survey. 2 - January 3 at 3:46pm

T'3 Mark Drake Everytime in the last 25yrs that a state made a Pro Carry BILL anti-gun people scream "if the BILL is passed they'll be blood running in the streets".. This has never happened. You seam to think any one with a gun can't have anykind of conversation without getting upset and just gunning down the other person. Thats just stupid. And when and if somebody kills someone arrest the shooter. Thats how laws work.. EVIL is everywhere no law will ever end people from getting hurt or killed period.. January 4 at 9:47am Laurie Benson Mark Drake I didn't take a side. I just mentioned that the survey asked for a yes or no AND a reason. January 4 at 10:10am Edited

Daniel Hebert ti-YES NH resident January 3 at 3:47pm Benjamin Lineberry -ayes ##nhresident nuary 3 at 3:47pm Bob Robertson ti-Yes tiNHResident This is done by ABOLISHING THE PROHIBITION, if any. My posts here are copy and paste, it seems, because it's always the same: Abolish the prohibitions, hold people accountable for their actions. 2 - January 3 at 3:47pm James Gleason ayes nh resident January 3 at 3i51 pm M Jesse Garland BYES- NH RESIDENT, E January 3 at 3:52pm Bill Rosser lino this should be expanded to dorms and all buildings ... nh students have a right to defend themselves January 3 at 3:52pm tim John Caldeira ItYes i#Mass January 3 at 3 52pm Geoff Paquette ttyes NH resident. nuary 3 at 3 53pm Ray Collins Yes January 3 at 3 54prin N', Patrick Sampson Yes. Nh resident. January 3 at 3 54pm Sofia Cunha-Vasconcelos ttno. NH resident. 1 - January 3 at 3 5'4unt

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Kevin Handley #yes. My resident January 3 at 3:55pm Jason Burk #yes NH res. As a Constitutional carry state one has the right to bare arms anywhere. 1 • January 3 at 3:55pm Brian Lumb #YES Shall not be infringed! January 3 at 3:55pm Phillip T Bleicher Yes why not it your right to protect yourself anuary 3 at 3:57pm Jim Fleming No 1 • January 3 at 3:58pm James Willett Yes January 3 at 3:59pm Richard Souza Of course January 3 at 4:00pm Suzanne Gagnon They can't hold onto a laptop nevermind a gun. 1 • January 3 at 4:01pm Don Merchand Ilyes NH citizen the job of the legislature is to protect the people's freedom and since New Hampshire has a second amendment that would be their responsibility anyone that wants to carry a gun on college campus that has the training and the permit oh wait we don't need a permit anymore in New Hampshire so really the question is moot 1 • January 3 at 4:03pm • Edited Darrin Stewart

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Constitutional rights don't stop just because they are on a campus. The only people you're disarming are the people you don't need you worry about 2 • January 3 at 4 08pm Diane Maynard #YES NH resident Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 20

January 3 at 4:11pm • Edited Mohammed Ali #Yes NH Resident. Laws don't prevent criminals from committing crimes. 2 • January 3 at 4:11pm Jonathan Doane Sure but, I want gun owners to be responsible. I would rather people conceal carry than open carry. If you open carry with the intent to make a scene, then you deserve to be hit with disturbing the peace if that's the result. January 3 at 4 12pm John Badeau I understand your concern, but think you need a permit to have it concealed I Id believe a lot of people open carry for that reason January 3 at 4.23pm Jonathan Doane John, law was passed earlier in 2017 that no longer requires a permit for II"I concealed carry. January 3 at 4:26pm Edited Cory Ayers You think someone should be charged criminally for exercising a constitutionally 4„far protected right?

I conceal carry 99% of the time but every now and then I choose to open carry. If someone doesn't like the fact that I'm wearing my gun, or thry take offense to it for whatever reason, is that my problem or theirs? 1 January 3 at 5,01pm • Edited

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John Badeau ilYes, of course N.H. Resident Live Free Or Die N 1 • January 3 at 4:13pm Francis X OMeara I#YES January 3 at 4:20pm Robert P. Graham Criminals don't care about gun free zones. 2 • January 3 at 4:20pm Ashley Taylor •llyes frnhresident Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 21

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William J. Safe Yes r 1 January 3 at 4-22pin Bruce Cory #yes nh resident last i checked the constitution says we the people have the RIGHT to keep and bear arms, and no government is allowed to infringe on that, not being able to bear my arms at a college or university is an ILLEGAL INFRINGEMENT !! 3 January 3 at 4:23pm James Okello #Yes resident...why should my rights end at a campus. U 1 January 3 at 4:23pm Linda Gourdeau Moore No. Why the hell for? To shoot someone who pisses them off? What, this the wild west??? Supposed to be a civilized society, oh wait Trump is president. LOL S 1 • January 3 at 4 25pm GA Sondra M Holmes My husband is a US combat veteran who served two tours in Iraq. He carried alsd on campus every day he attended. Wanna know why? Because the only person who can effectively stop a university shooter is someone who is already AT the university when the shooting happens and can shoot back. 1 January 3 at 4.36pm Linda Gourdeau Moore Well, he was trained to carry. But, the every day young student??? Scary. January 3 at 4 39prn Sti Sondra M Holmes Anyone can be trained to carry. My son has been shooting since he was 5 Idea; and if he decides to attend college I will encourage him to carry because I want my son to come home at the end of his day, not become a statistic. Being exposed to responsibility is the best way to get people to behave well. 1 • January 3 at 4 47pm • Linda Gourdeau Moore Well, I guess I just don't believe in guns. I January 3 at 4 47pm • Chris Hemmah And yet I guarantee you encounter people in NH carrying daily, and we have a severe lack of wild west shootouts. 1 • January 4 at 8 05am

Chip Hastings Yes 1 January 3 at 4:26pm Dawna Hebert #Yes nuary 3 at 4:26pm Leanne Maher Psiras //yes NH resident January 3 at 4:28pm Adrian Clayey #yes NH residents ONLY!! ry 3 at 4:29pm Edited Julio Franco We have the right to bare arms ! January 3 at 4:31pm David Howland it would be a good start at reducing crimes. January 3 at 4:32pm Quentin Michel Absofragginposolutetively anuary 3 at 4:33pm Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 22

Sondra M Holmes #yes NH resident Because the second amendment says "shall not be infringed." Live free or die. January 3 at 4:34pm Cat D Stan How amazingly idiotic...sure then watch the shoot out at the NH corral!!! My Native State is getting really DUMB! 1 January 3 at 4:37pm Quinn Martell Funny because there hasn't been one yet.. 1 January 3 at 5 11pm MI Brian Miller Then you must agree we need to ban fire extinguishers in schools too

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Cotten J. Smith #No (NH resident). Young adults, raging hormones, alcohol and guns are a disgracefully dangerous mix. And by the way, all rights can be reasonably regulated. So let universities decide. 1 January 3 at 4 39pm Joshua Salmonson Well since you need to be 21 to buy a pistol we're not talking about 15-16 year old kids. 3 January 3 at 4 54pm Dtpi Brian Miller You're right all of those are determining factors.

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Cotten J. Smith Dan DiMare Dan, I suggest you be more civil. My comment is based on the words of former SCOTUS justice Antony Scalia in DC v Heller, as well as on the writings of Enlightenment political philosophers such as John Locke, Thomas Hobbes, and John Milton. All rights can, and must be, reasonably regulated. Otherwise they conflict with other rights and civic obligations. January 4 at 6:02am

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Concealed carriers are background checked, statistically the most law-abiding, and statistically more accurate and discerning than law enforcement personnel. As well, there is absolutely no reason why a law-abiding citizen should be disarmed simply because they are on school/university grounds... 1 • January 3 at 4:42pm Neil Cronin You're a bunch of lunatics January 3 at 4:43pm Loren Scott Based on what line of reasoning? January 3 at 5:09pm • Neil Cronin Guns guns guns guns. You're all lunatics January 3 at 5:10pm • J Emily Watson Whatever! Count me in January 3 at 5:19pm Brian Miller How does being a firearms enthusiast and respecting the second amendment make one a lunatic?

I'd agree if the majority of gun owners were shooting up places, killing folks but this is not the case being that the majority of us are rather picky about firearms safety. January 3 at 6 14pm Ryan Christopher Grasso Neil Cronin why because it is not your opinion? That makes others lunatics? January 4 at 7.51am

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Joseph Brown lkyes itNHresident It's already the law that no political subdivision of the State can ban guns. Unfortunately, the administrators of these institutions are acting illegally. It's sad that /educators/ need the General Court to pass a new law to tell them to obey the existing law. 2 January 3 at 4.47pm Mark Alderson #YES #Absolutely January 3 at 4:47pm Anthony Sciap #yes. NH resident. This is New Hampshire! NOT Massachusetts, Live Free Or Diem 1 January 3 at 4A8pm Matthew Eggers #yes 1 January 3 at 4;50pm Dan Davis #Yes NH Resident.The Right of self protection shall not be infringed. January 3 at 4 51pm • J Emily Watson Unless your a felon? 1 January 3 at 5:20pm Dan Davis Depends on the felony. Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 24

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Grosvenor DeWitt Marcy II Yes. Bad guys will not follow non-carry laws. January 3 at 4:53pm Vern Hoover Is it obvious that our elected officials forget the Constitution and need a refresher course, or am I just being picky. January 3 at 4:59pm Chuck Becker i don't need no damn gaurantee i carry when i want January 3 at 5.01pm

s4 Stephen B. Larsen Of course. Good answer. January 3 at 5:34pm

Nachiste Seavey This is a homemade gun. Gun control does nothing but help the bad guys.

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' 4Andrew Scolaro Yeah. Think about how many lives can be saved if others are carrying. Maybe would be assailants will think twice unless they are on suicide mission. M 2 , January 3 at 5 06prn Lynda Gayle Hallock Yes..anywherel January 3 at 5 07pm Patrick Soutter Yes. Look what happened to the Ohio students who were attacked in the name of Islam. 2 January 3 at 5 08pm Bret Gillis I agree they should be able to 1 January 3 at 5 09pm 3 Tim Tompkins #no schools should be weapon free zones. Even state run, adult schools. 3 • January 3 at 5 10prn

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David Merchant ayes Mihres dent #unhstudent frveteran ivary 3 at 5:11pm J Emily Watson INES.. Everywhere or nowhere nuary 3 at 5:17pm Allan Pechner Jr. /YES :18pm Bonnie McDermott Yes. Durham, NH. SECOND AMENDMENT! 1 • January 3 at 5:19pm Sarah Chamberlain /Nes. There is nothing to keep guns off campuses now. School shooters are people who break the law. Gun-free zones endanger those who obey the law. #NHresident 1 January 3 at 5:19pm Joseph Robillard Yes January 3 at 5:22pm Albertus VanLubeeck I'm going to go with let each school decide on thier own for this one.

I bet if I gave everyone at MIT a minigun and 10000 rounds, nothing would happen. But if I gave a bunch of knives to everyone at Berkeley, a bunch of people would get stabbed. So I can't say that any and every school should be carrying, and I can't say any and every school shouldn't be carrying. January 3 at 5 23pm Chris Hemmah If they want to decide on their own they should turn private. January 4 at 8 02am

Bob Hallowell YES! NH resident. The most deadly city's and states in the country are the ones with strict gun control laws. You can chose to be a victim if you want. But don't dictate to the rest of us. 4 • January 3 at 5:25pm Caitlyn April #YES anuary 3 at 5:25pm Tyler Mahan Yes January 3 at 5:26pm Tyler Mahan Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 26

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JD Taft llyes Nh Resident. 1 • January 3 at 5:38pm Marianne Fleming Absolutly not,the wild,wild west was a 1 00yrs. Ago or sown January 3 at 5:40pm Brian Miller Why not? Honestly trying to see why some people think this would be a bad idea. January 3 at 6:10pm Anthony James The wild west had a lot of gun free zones. Look at the famous OK Coral shoot al out. That was law enforcement disarming/killing people that refused to comply with the gun free zone law. January 3 at 8 47pm ma Ron Melanson Are people really so stupid that they think the old west was like the tv movies. The ar‘alc type of people you could sell a ticket to Fantasy Island. January 4 at 2 53am

Joseph Hoshorian Yes January 3 at 5:43pm Alan Rosene Yep January 3 at 5:44pm Joseph Hoshorian My daughter has been scared to walk on campus at night so I agree with the right to bear arms all over 4 January 3 at 5:45pm Mindy Buxton ®yes nh resident January 3 at 5:52pm Scott Malone yes January 3 at 5:55pm Sabina Chen rTho #NHresident 1 - January 3 at 6:00pm Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on FIB 1542 28

Christina Fintonis Chigas //yes NH resident because it's our right!! A January 3 at 6:03pm Brian Miller //yes January 3 at 6:08pm Lorraine Bickford Vies //NH resident January 3 at 6:11pm Forrest Roark Yes NH res January 3 at 6:13pm Annette L Hicks ttNo liNHRESIDENT it 1 January 3 at 6:13pm Mark Wholley /ryes NH Resident E January 3 at 6:14pm Roland Bosse YES January 3 at 6:14pm Laurie Anderson Warnock I/No nh resident 1 . January 3 at 6 15pm Stephen Detsch I know NH doesn't require a permit anymore to carry, but still get one. I carried concealed everywhere regardless of whatever sign there was with my permit and no one ever knew. a Nothing ever happened but I felt protected. NH does not need anymore laws or regulations; Live Free is in the state motto right? 2 January 3 at 6 2.3nm

Alyssa King Didn't you know? The motto only applies to liquor sales/consumption and seatbelt pp laws. January 3 at 7:07pm Robin Bruedle Alyssa King except for people under the age of 18 re seatbelts am January 3 at 8 02pm

Harvey Robbins YES! January 3 at 6:25pm Vance Fillmore Jr. tlyes NH resident January 3 at 6:28pm Brandon Parent //yes #NHresident I'd like back some of the freedom our forefathers fought and died for, thank you very much. Seems to me and other logical people, universities would be a less attractive place for an evil person to try and shoot up if there were law abiding citizens with the ability to protect themselves and their fellow Americans residing in them. 3 January 3 at 6:36pm r Edited David Parent Yes ry 3 at 6:35pm Chad Osmer Well yea January 3 at 6:37pm Amy Em liNHresident ■ Studies show time and time again that the myth of the good guy with the gun is just that and only endangers everyone more 4 - January 3 at 6:40pm Hide 33 Replies

Jeff Long Playing the devil's advocate here.... I'm sitting in a movie theater and some knob w walks in and starts shooting. Your child is sitting next to me...I am armed and I neutralize the threat to your child. Think about that... 2 January 3 at 6:47pm Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 29

Eddie Cook Or, you're not as good a shot as you thought you were and you get dropped or even worse, you hit an innocent bystander. 2 • January 3 at 6:55pm • Amy Em Your argument is that some infinitesimal chance of my child being involved in a live shooter scenario is enough that we should turn a blind eye to the overwhelming evidence that guns make everyone less safe, not more? Your scenario of "neutralizing" anyone is nothing more than a fantasy - unlikely and actually endangers more people. Think about that. 1 January 3 at 6:55pm Jimmy Cunningham Jeff long I believe that you have been reading propaganda from the people who twist the truth to fit their own agenda. Just looking at the states with the toughest gun laws. They have the biggest problems with guns. 1 • January 3 at 6:57pm • Amy Em That is not true Jimmy. Here is a list of the states with strictest gun laws https://www.deseretnews.com/.../10-states-with-the... Here is a list of states with the most gun violence https://www.usatoday.com/.../24-7-wall-st.../71003050/ Notice what states are not on that second list? to states with the strictest gun laws I Deseret News

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1 January 3 at 7 03pm Alyssa King You want to talk about propaganda Jimmy Cunningham? The NRA is a propaganda Er machine, and it's incredibly effective in motivating profit by preying on society's most basic fears and weaknesses. " 1 January 3 at 7 04pin Cheryl Ann Nope... a good guy with a gun saves the day all the time ! Just because CNN doesn't La report it , doesn't mean it doesn't exist.... 2 January 3 at 7 09pm • Cheryl Ann Eddie Cook that never happens .... the odds are slim. Gun owners who would take the shot are trained to take it safely January 3 at 7:13pm Edited • Cheryl Ann Amy Em those sites are biased . If you want true facts use the FBI stats which clearly show those with strict laws are the most violent . Nh has the least strict laws and is in the top 2 of safest states . 1 January 3 at 7 17pm Cheryl Ann Alyssa King you apparently don't know that the NRA is a group of law abiding AMERICAN gun owners protecting their rights as a group . I am the NRA ! THOSE PREYING ON AMERICANS BY USING FEAR IS THE DEMOCRATS... that's why you have an irrational fear of firearms! They told you to fear it . 1 January 3 at 7 19pm • Amy Em You mean these kind of FBI stats? https://www.factchectorg/.../10/gun-laws-deaths-and-crimes/ "But what about robberies with a firearm, or aggravated assaults? We calculated firearm robbery rates for the states, using the FBI data for 2014, and the states with the highest rates are Nevada, Mississippi, Georgia, Maryland and Louisiana. Four out of five of those states received an "F" from the groups that advocate tougher gun laws. (We discounted Illinois, which reported limited data to the FBI.)

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states: Tennessee, South Carolina, Arkansas, Louisiana and Delaware. The last state was the only one not to receive an "F." Gun Laws, Deaths and Crimes - FactCheck.org

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1 January 3 at 7.20pm • Alyssa King Cheryl Ann living the high life, rollin in that infowars money (/s). 1 January 3 at 7.21pm Cheryl Ann Amy Em fact check ....fakenews January 3 at 7:22pm • Amy Em LOL, OK chary!, feel free to provide a source 2 January 3 at 7 23pm Cheryl Ann Amy Em good guys with guns ... Fa January 2, 2017—Kay Dickinson was attacked while entering her Wilmington, North Carolina, apartment. WWAY repoted that Dickinson had just gotten off work and was going into her apartment at Colonial Parke when she was attacked." The suspect held her at gunpoint, "beat her and then tied her up with a broken belt in her bedroom." She was able to work free, retrieve her gun, and kill the suspect.

January 12, 2017—An concealed carry permit holder saw an Arizona State Trooper being beaten on the side of Interstate 10. The permit holder pulled over, asked the Trooper if he needed help, then intervened when the Trooper answered in the affirmative. The permit holder ordered the attacker to stop, then shot him dead after he refused to comply. It turned out that the suspect had shot the Trooper before the permit holder arrived, then climbed on top of him in a rage and began beating him on the side of the road. The permit holder saved the Trooper's life.

January 20, 2017—Charlotte, North Carolina's Kim Badger was attacked in "broad daylight" by a home invasion suspect armed with a baseball bat. WCNC reported that the attacker struck Badger with the bat, then pursued her through the house. Throughout the attack Badger fought to deny the suspect control of a knife that was on a counter and, eventually, to deny him access to a sword. Badger's teenage son joined the fight to keep the suspect away from the sword. As the son fought, the mother retrieved her gun and shot the suspect dead.

January 29, 2017—Two masked suspects entered West Philadelphia's Eagele's Corner Chinese takeout and "announced a robbery." According to 6 ABC, police indicated that two store owners were present at the time and one of the owners pulled a gun and opened fire. The owner opened fire, causing both of the suspects to flee. One of the suspects was struck by the owner's gunfire and was arrested after his accomplice drove him to the hospital for treatment. 1 January 3 at 7 31pm

▪ Cheryl Ann Amy Em more good guys with guns February 9, 2017—A legally armed citizen in Holland, Michigan, shot and critically wounded a suspect who would not stop assaulting a woman inside a convenience store. Holland Police issued a press release recounting the incident by explaining that "the suspect violently punched the victim several times and threw her down to the ground, and it is at that point that the [armed] customer arrives and tries to intervene." The suspect then turned and attacked the customer who was trying to intervene, leading the customer to open fire. The suspect was shot twice and hospitalized in critical condition.

March 8, 2017—A home invasion suspect who approached a family was shot and killed by the father after refusing to accept food stamps in lieu of money. WBRZ quoted East Baton Rouge District Attorney Hillar Moore saying, "The [father] was at his own home with his family and was confronted by another individual who was armed. There was a scuffle which eventually led to shots being fired and the person who came to the home was shot and killed." The father offered the suspect food stamps prior to fighting and eventually killing him. Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 31

March 9, 2017—A Houston, Texas, smoke shop owner was shot multiple times yet managed to pull his own gun and kill one of two robbery suspects. ABC 13 reported that customers were in the store when the two suspects entered. Those customers called 911 and the dispatcher could hear the sound of gunshots in the background. The store owner was hospitalized in critical condition after the uninjured suspect fled the scene.

March 21, 2017—A 21-year-old suspect kicked in his ex-girlfriend's apartment door, then died after being shot multiple times. As it turns out, the ex-girlfriend's brother was in the Detroit apartment and opened fire on the suspect. Police responded to find the suspect had a gun and had left his car parked in the street with the engine running.

April 14, 2017—A homeowner in Pierce County, Washington, awoke to the sound of someone trying to enter his home around 3:30 a.m. The homeowner retrieved a gun and went to investigate, ultimately firing one shot and killing 28-year-old Viktor Starovevrov. The Pierce County Sheriff's Department responded to a call of shots fired and arrived to find Starovenrov beyond hope of survival. A 32-year-old woman and three-year-old girl were asleep in the house when the invasion was foiled.

April 23, 2017—A St. Louis 7-11 clerk was taking a smoke break around 3:50 a.m. when a robbery suspect approached and attempted to rob her. The clerk pulled her own gun and exchanged fire with the suspect, shooting him multiple times. The suspect's wounds proved fatal. The clerk was also wounded in the gunfight, yet was in stable condition following the incident. January 3 at 7:32pm Amy Em Those are not FBI stats Cheryl, and you don't even provide a source (7 1 January 3 at 7:32pm Amy Em Can someone explain what "anecdotal" means to Cheryl? 1 r January 3 at 7 33pm Cheryl Ann Amy Em more good guys with guns Lea:- May 3, 2017—An Arlington, Texas, man described by witnesses as an "active shooter" was shot and killed by a concealed carry permit holder in Zona Caliente Sports Bar around 6:15 p.m. WFAA reported that the armed suspect shot and killed the bar manager and was then was engaged by the permit holder, who shot the aggressor dead. Police explained that the permit holder intervened out of fear that inaction would lead to a further "loss of life."

May 12, 2017—A female homeowner shot and killed a suspect who allegedly brought his sevem- year-old son along for the home invasion. The San Antonio Express-News reported the suspect allegedly tried to break in through a window in the very room where the homeowner happened to be asleep. The woman heard the suspect trying to make entry into her home, armed herself, and fired at least two rounds. Police arrived in time to transport the alleged intruder to a hospital, where he was pronounced dead.

May 18, 2017—A home invasion suspect wearing only underwear was shot and killed after breaking into a pastor's home in Cypress, Texas. The suspect entered the home around 2:00 a.m. and attacked the pastor and his wife. As the intruder went room to room looking for other would- be victims, he came upon an extended family member who was armed. That family member shot and killed the intruder, saving others in the home from coming under attack.

May 29, 2017—An armed neighbor in Ada, Oklahoma, came to the rescue of three children who were being drowned by their father. Cash Freeman was alerted to the situation when a terrified 12-year-old ran to his house to say the estranged father had taken the children from the mother and was trying to drown them. Freeman arrived to find the father holding three-month-old twins under water. Freeman shot the father twice, killing him and saving the children.

June 7, 2017—An Indianapolis mother protected her children by opening fire and killing a home invasion suspect who struck in broad daylight. Fox 59 reports that the mother heard someone trying to get into the apartment, then came to face-to-fact with 19-year-old Michael Hawkins. She opened fire at that point and Hawkins dropped dead "inside the doorway." The mother and the children were not harmed. Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 32

June 17, 2017—A man was shot and killed by his ex-girlfriend after he allegedly threatened her and showed up to her house with an "assault rifle." The incident occurred in Florida's Pasco County around 10:30 pm. According to Fox 13 News, law enforcement officials said 45-year-old Frank Harrison had "previously threatened his ex-girlfriend." When she saw him approaching her home she opened the front door and shot him dead before he could enter. January 3 at 7:33prn Cheryl Ann Amy Em more good guys with guns La July 17, 2017—With a car thief on the lose near her family's home 17-year-old Kimber Wood called her dad and asked if she could retrieve one of his guns to keep close at hand for self-defense. Her father said yes, so Kimber retrieved the gun and was ready when the suspect entered the house. Kimber and the suspect came face to face, only to have to him flee when she pointed the gun at him and ordered him to leave the home. She chased him as he fled and fired a warning shot to assure him that she knew how to use the gun.

July 31, 2017—A Katy, Texas, grandma opened fire on two home invasion suspects, leaving one dead. According to ABC 13, Harris County Sheriff's deputies said the 60-year-old grandma was home alone when two suspects allegedly entered through the garage. Deputy Thomas Gilliland said, "Both were armed with pistols. She confronted both suspects, retrieved a handgun and fired several times at both subjects."

August 5, 2017—An elderly homeowner in Lakewood, Florida, shot and killed a home intruder. The homeowner was in the home with his wife when they heard the suspect make entry. He grabbed a gun, confronted the suspect, then killed him. Law enforcement officials did not report how many times the suspect was shot, only that he was dead when responding officers arrived.

September 6, 2017—Three Taco Bell employees opened fire and killed an armed robbery suspect in Cleveland, Ohio. According to Fox 8, police said two suspects entered the store "wearing masks and ordered the employees to the ground at gunpoint." There were multiple employees in the store at the time and three of them responded by opening fire. When officers arrived the suspect who had been fatally wounded was lying face down and a gun was still in his hand.

September 14, 2017—An Indianapolis father shot and killed an intruder who burst through the front door and rushed into the apartment. The father's two young children were home at the time of the foiled invasion. CBS 4 quoted Indianapolis Metropolitan Police officer Aaron Hamer, who said, "It appears [the suspect] was yelling to get into the residence because he believed his kids were in the house. It turns out the kids inside did not belong to him." The father and his two children were not harmed. January 3 at 7 34pm Amy Em again cheryl, not the FBI stats you claim. Try again January 3 at 7 34pm EIN Cheryl Ann Amy Em and more good guys with guns Fla- September 18, 2017—A female accountant shot and critically wounded a suspect who broke into her office as she was there typing alone. The suspect was fleeing police when he entered the office and the accountant asked to stop coming at her before she pulled the trigger and shot him in the neck. The suspect survived being shot, but has to undergo rehab to learn how to walk again.

September 24, 2017—Two home invasion suspects rushed into a Bridgeville, Maryland, home around 11:55 pm. Police indicated that at least one of the suspects was armed. The homeowner, home alone at the time off the invasion, wrestled with the armed suspect and shot was fired, killing the suspect. The suspect's body was lying in the kitchen when police arrived. The homeowner was not injured.

November 5, 2017—Stephen Willeford was in his home in Sutherland Springs, Texas, when his daughter rushed inside to let him know someone was shooting congregants at the First Baptist Church. Willeford grabbed his AR-15 and a handful of bullets and ran barefoot toward the church in order to confront the killer. Upon arriving, Willeford took a defensive position behind a truck and exchanged fire with the killer, shooting him twice. The killer fled the scene after Willeford shot him, driving roughly 11 miles before taking his own life. Willeford proved anew the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.

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confronted the father and his family in a Popeye's restaurant. According to Fox 29, the suspect pointed a gun at the father and "demanded his property." The father asked that his family be released, then pulled his own gun when the suspect became distracted by individuals walking out the restroom. The father shot the suspect multiple times, killing him on the spot.

The Second Amendment is not about duck hunting or plinking, but protecting our lives and liberty from threats as they arise. The top 25 defensive gun uses of 2017 show that law-abiding Americans understand this and are putting their guns to good use. 2 • January 3 at 7:35pm • Cheryl Ann Amy Em time women were a part of the linotme instead of #metoo

1 - January 3 at 7 37pm • Amy Em Still not FBI stats Cheryl. Obviously an unbiased source though, as we can see by the last paragraph January 3 at 7.37pm Robin Bruedle Cheryl Ann BS nI AM A trained democrat that carries daily Are you seriously thinking that every single soldier is a REPUBLICAN 1 • January 3 at 8:05pm Dan DiMare If stricter gun laws really do work to make us safer than why is Chicago the most violent city in the country? They have the toughest gun laws. What gives? ..a,a 2 January 3 at 8 45prn Scott Dean I'm just a scrolling, tried reading some of these back and forth, but biggest thing missed is that ..No matter what you post or try to convey as to why guns shouldn't be carried.... Guess what I'm still carrying and I do so to protect myself and my family. If your near by and it saves you, that's a plus. But I'm not hero for someone else...I'm a hero for myself if and when the time comes. Just like you have a fire extinguisher or smoke alarm that you've probably never had to use or evacuate over.... All this back and forth is irrelevant.... It's a constitutional right to carry and bear arms....enough said. 1 • January 3 at 8 48prn • Cheryl Ann Amy Em look them up yourself ... or are you that lazy ? I gave you 25 cases of a good guy with a gun, look each up to verify . They are all verifiable! January 3 at 9:10pm EN Amy Em So you admit that you are making statements that have no basis in fact and you have mill no source? I thought so January 3 at 9 16prn Amy Em Tell me about your well trained militia Scott Dean. Fact is, the 2nd amendment was never intended to be the perversion it has become. 1 January 3 at 9 17pm Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 34

Kevin G. Gagne Lol. "Studies' by sara Brady. :4, 1 • January 4 at 4:22pm er Kevin G. Gagne Amy Em Sure. It was the end of a bloody war for independence and our allal founding fathers had just overthrown a tyrannical government. They sat and penned the second amendment to the most important American document - with the intent to make sure only the government and its organized military wings would be able to bear arms forever more. That's plausible. 1 • January 4 at 4:27pm Danny Hann II Amy Em While I can see your point, in the last 3 years there have been 3 people killed in my neighborhood within 4 miles and two shootings at the local Walmart. I did one will not be a victim of something stupid like that. January 4 at 5:27pm

IX Patrick Fennell /ryes t January 3 at 6.44prn Pac- Shawn Walch Yes. NH resident January 3 at 6:50pm Jimmy Cunningham Yes. igh January 3 at 6- 52pm M Catherine Tymkowiche Yes 1 , January 3 at 6:5•1pm Joe Jancaitis Hell yes 1 - January 3 at 6:56pm Frank Garrapy Yes NH resident 1 - January 3 at 7:02pm Alyssa King /Nes, NH resident. I want to know who's clearly compensating for something. kp. ' January 3 at 7:02pm Cheryl Ann

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Chuck Hudson no 1 January 3 at 7:04pm Cheryl Ann #yes the constitution guarantees it 1 • January 3 at 7:10pm vow Ben Arthur I don't want to encourage it... but, #yes if someone crosses school property on their way back from the range... we should INSURE they can't get jammed up for it (if acting responsibly)(hopefully someone doing so would have the curtesy to conceal it)

NH Res (and parent of two starting collage next year) January 3 at 7 21pm Robin Bruedle I'm all for a right to carry, There are no shooting ranges in a school zone January 3 at 7 24pm Ben Arthur Robin Bruedle be If my kid goes shooting w/his buddies.. gets dropped off at his car on campus... he DOES NOT deserve to be hassled! (NOT that far fetched) January 3 at 7 31pin Kevin G. Gagne Robin Bruedle there is no reason that lawful carry shouldn't apply everywhere. None. 1 January 4 at 4 29pm

Robin Bruedle #yes NH resident Pathetic that only the people causing mass shootings are the ones who are carrying weapons. Safe zones create dead zones for the unarmed 2 January 3 at 7:25pm Edited Cindy Towle No...NH resident 1 • January 3 at 7:26pm Jose Luis Gonzales #yes January 3 al 7:39pm Arthur Bradbury Lee NH resident. I cannot imagine anything so stupid. A big no. 1 • January 3 at 7:50pm Kerry Anne Garnick #no. The Supreme Court has decided that public schools are allowed to prohibit certain speech that creates an environment in which learning becomes more difficult. This is up to the school. If a school wants no guns on their campus that is their right. NH resident. 1 • January 3 at 7:51pm Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 36

• Anthony James Public schools in NH wouldn't have the right to make said rules. Only the state government has the authority to do that in NH. It's in our laws. January 3 at 8:50pm n Kerry Anne Garnick Okay but your not getting it. The Supreme Court trumps the NH state a government. January 3 at 8:53pm Kerry Anne Garnick But more importantly I just want the administrators to be allowed to choose. a I don't think that the government should be taking that decision away from them. January 3 at 3.54pm 111. Chris Hemmah Actually the gun free school zone act allows for carry with training and/or certification, which anyone with a NH PRL already qualifies under. The school is not allowed to choose itself. You are incorrect. January 4 at 7 58am Brian J. Stone Kerry Anne Garnick The NH Supreme Court may say a school can do it (not that I know of)...in the absence of a law saying they can't. The Supreme Court would have to follow this bill were it to become law. January 4 at 3 20pm - Edited • Kerry Anne Garnick Yeah they are allowed to allow firearms and that's whatever but the state shouldn't be able to make that decision for the administrators. January 4 at 8 26pm • Brian J. Stone Kerry Anne Garnick It's State property. January 4 at 9 44pm Kerry Anne Garnick I recognize that. But so are public schools. You can't carry a gun in a school am zone. January 5 at 7 30am Jard Allanson Kerry Anne Garnick "You can't carry a gun in a school zone"? Sure you can, anyone CAN, including mass murderers. You/they might be breaking the law, but you/they sure can 100% carry a firearm into a school zone, law or no law. All it does is prevent good people from defending themselves and others. The bad people are still going to do what they're going to do. Passing a law against it doesn't change anything except the consequences afterward (assuming it's not a suicide attack). January 5 at 5 13pm UN Anthony James Kerry Anne Garnick You can carry a firearm in a public school. The Gun Free la Zone act has a provision that says anyone with a concealed carry license issued by a police department within the state can carry on school grounds if the state does not have a law prohibiting it. NH has no law prohibiting carrying a firearm on school grounds. State employees of a state school have no legal authority to make rules that circumvent law. January 5 at 7 38pm

Matt Anderson #Yes why should an imaginary line influence one's right to defend themselves and others 7 January 3 at 7:52pm Dan Mayo Jr. //yes...follow the consti ution January 3 at 8 05pm

• Kerry Anne Garnick The Constitution says that the right to bear arms shall not be infringed. It doesn't say anything about guns being allowed everywhere. It just means that the government won't be able to go after someone. If individual schools wish to make it a gun free zone that is their right. January 4 at 7:41am Dan Mayo Jr. Shall not be infringed inside this country. You're right, the founding fathers didn't include a clause saying that if people don't like guns they can infringe on your right, on public land outdoors at a university that gets tax payer dollars. Private schools is one thing, make all the rules you want. It's ridiculous that we even need to vote on a bill that does nothing but protect a right we already have. January 4 at 8:26am Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 37

Matt Thurlow Yes! January 3 at 8114pm Gordon Avery #YES. Gun Free Zones are not compatible with life expectancy, why the caveat? N. b H. Born and raised. 1 • January 3 at 8:19pm • Edited —4 Allen Campbell #YES anuary 3 at 8:22pm Kris Branch If we all had guns and had the right to use them on each other we would all be dead, it is ridiculous to think we should have guns on college campuses two things that does not need to be put together are young adults ( we hope) and guns because a humans brain isn't fully formed until 20-22 so college students still have problems being rational so they should not have guns on campus. 1 , January 3 at 3 25pni

r Tom Cody Your point makes no sense as you can only carry a handgun at 21 years old. By your stats the people this law would affect would be fully developed. January 3 at 8:30pm Jeff Stephanie Ballard LOL You do realize we have more guns in the US than people right?

I think you are right about some people's brains not being fully developed though, you are on to something there for sure! I fully agree, if you believe something so nonsensical like if we all had guns we'd all be dead, then clearly your brain needs to finish developing. January 3 at 8 33pm Scott Dean That rationality only works when you figure "the young adults" your speaking of. I'm 42 a registered conceal carry NH resident and I'm going back to college. Prior army and Armed security trained with a weapon, grew up on a farm and know the dangers.... Ya think I'm mature enough? 2 • January 3 at 8 52pin

*1- Aaron Carter Subtract gang violence and suicides and American gun violence is the same as w•c•-• most European countries where guns are illegal 2 • January 3 at 3 54pin Jeremiah Martel

January 3 at 11:37pm Chris Hemmah You are projecting January 4 at 7:55am Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 38

Bill Foote Doesn't the second amendment already note our ability to bear arms? 1 • January 3 at 8:28prn Don Schultz N00000000000!! 1 • January 3 at 8:45pm Don Schultz The second amendment isn't absolute its limited to time,and place.For a campus policemen it would be appropriate,but not for the student body. 2 • January 3 at 8:47pm

Cotten J. Smith Don -- I agree. Law enforcement officers are regularly trained and properly supervised. And even then, police sometimes make terrible mistakes. NH allows open and concealed carry of loaded guns with zero training in firearm safety, anger management, nonviolent conflict de-escalation; zero safe storage requirements; a possible history of alcohol abuse; and a history of domestic violence in the absence of either actual convictions or a permanent restraining order. More civilians carrying loaded firearms on campus not only increases the risk of death or Fife-altering injuries, but also stifles the free exchange of often-contentious ideas that are so essential to education. January 4 at 6:12am Kevin G. Gagne Cotten J. Smith Maine, Vermont, NH and many other states passed similar laws and the bloodshed liberals predict NEVER materializes. Yet Democrat-controlled cities with "liberal wish list" of gun laws ALREADY IN PLACE are the uber-violent, gun murder capitals of the country January 4 at 4:32pm

Tyler N Treme Yes 1/nh wary 3 at 3:51pm John Perry Yes. January 3 at 9:17pm Kyle Corriveau //yes Igo January 3 at 9 20pm Anthony Akillian That's your call, I unfortunately Live in MA. " The first shot heard in the revolution war?

January 3 at 9:21pm Brenda Dearborn Yes January 3 at 9:54pm Anastasia Rjevskaia Lmao what could go wrong 1 • January 3 at 9:55pm

Richard Angell Look up school shootings, and you'll see what could go wrong in a 'gun free zone' when one nutjob who breaks numerous laws has lots of defenseless targets at his mercy. 2 • January 4 at 7A2am

Max Andrews If more people,were able to protect themselves there would be less people wanting to take the risk of being crazY. 1 January 3 at 9 59pm Laura J Mendes i/yes - NH resident. A person has the right to protect themselves wherever they are 1 • January 3 at 10 07pm Linda Joyce Don Schultz did u really just imply that a wanna be cop should be allowed to carry a gun on college campus cause he/she wears a fake badge but a college student can't 4$.4,#,rcart4A.,Z*141.. let me be the first to say I'm twenty three years old and I fully support the second amendment right I don't think the federal government should have the right to tell me wether or not I can not carry a gun for self defense or protection thats my human right as an American citizen p.s Ito have a license to carry and im very educated on gun safety ftyes nh resident 2 January 3 at 10 18pm Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 39

• Richard Angell Keeping and bearing arms is a right, you say. And you have a licence to do it. Look up Right vs. Privilege, and the etymology and legal definition of licensure. January 4 at 7:48arn • Linda Joyce Richard Angell it is a right and not privilege the US Constitution says so and has been around since before u and I were even thought of and yea I do have a license to do so signed and dated by the chief of police from my town and i know damn well the legal definition of licensure it means that I can legally carry wich btw if u ask any nh cop they will tell u it's no longer required hope that sits well with u (44,4***** January 4 at 9:01am

Linda Joyce Don Schultz you should also no that there are not actual cops on college campus there called campus security January 3 at 10:19pm Hide 19 Replies

Knicole Elizabeth *know January 4 at 8:27am • Brian J. Stone While I did write this bill, UNH actually has its own real police department. January 4 at 8:02pm pi Linda Joyce Knicole Elizabeth I'm not an idiot no need to be the grammar police I'm fully aware thats how you spell know and Brian J. Stone u have campus security they do not have authority to charge someone with a crime and throw them in jail on a legal stand point they are not cops there wanna cops that were to lazy to go to the academy and graduate January 4 at 8 05pm • Brian J. Stone Linda Joyce UNH has a police department. They are real cops with real authority. January 4 at 8 17pm • Edited Linda Joyce Yea sure they are I live about ten minutes from the university of nh and last time I a checked I have not seen one cop car that says unh police so I beg to differ January 4 at 8:19pm Linda Joyce And again in order to be a real cop you have to take a civil service test which they lida hold once a year and you have two be twenty one to take the test and also u have to go to the police academy January 4 at 8:20pm Linda Joyce Oh Brian J. Stone your one of those , you worked for the a welfare office so u basically were in charge of helping people commit welfare fraud congratulations on taking away resources for mother's out there who need the assistants and if I was you just a little tip you might not want to be so open on facebook about your life cause u never no what could happen this world is sick and it's filled with fucked up people who do fucked up things just be careful January 4 at 8 27prn • Brian J. Stone Linda Joyce You don't know what I did there. It certainly wasn't that, but here is the authority of the UNH PD who have a lot of cop cars and are all over campus (I know because I went there for years unlike your unfounded bs): Legal Authority

Prior to taking the oath of office, each officer shall swear to faithfully and impartially discharge and perform all the duties incumbent on them as a University police officer to the best of their abilities, agreeable to the rules and regulations of the United States and State of New Hampshire Constitutions and the ordinances of the Town of Durham.

Upon taking the oath of office, pursuant to the provisions of Article 4, Section 4.8:B of the Charter of the Town of Durham, New Hampshire, you shall have the powers, to enforce all criminal laws, ordinances of the Town, serve criminal process and to make arrest as prescribed by law, and be subject to the liabilities of such office, until another person shall be chosen and qualified in your stead. January 4 at 8 37pm Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on FIB 1542 40

Brian J. Stone Don't worry, I'm used to dealing with stupid and insecure people like you .11.5 January 4 at 8 43pm pi Linda Joyce Brian J. Stone your a fucking joke kid and my unfounded bs legal authority s' a really The point of the article if you can fucking read is asking people there opinions about citizens being able to carry a concealed weapon on college campus I simply stated dumb fuck that just cause someone has a fake badge and walks around with a puffed out chest like you don't mean they are above the law January 4 at 8'43pm Linda Joyce And bitch please I'm fucking fabulous I'm far from insecure I'm very educated and know what I'm talking about January 4 at 8 44pm

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January 4 at 9:20pm Linda Joyce Point proven 4'4 someone's all butt hurt so they have to pull pictures off Google January 4 at 9:21pm

Laurie Williams #Yes, NH Resident January 3 at 10:22pm Cat Brooks It's live free or die not live free or die unless your on campus 4 - January 3 at 10:37pm Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 42

p , Paul Ross Absolutely yes! a January 3 at 10 57pm Reilly James Yes ar2v4 January 3 at 11:00pm 11/ Lawerance Jones yup January 3 at 11 04pin Kimberly J Tilley No. Guns do not need to be everywhere. In WA guns are, and they have gun violence and murders every single day, even on primary school grounds. Cops shoot first and then investigate when guns are very popular to have. 2 • January 3 at 11 38pm

•Richard Angell Sounds like a case for disarming the cops, to me. 1 • January 4 at 7 49am

Jeremiah Martel 'Yes. Side note nh colleges and universities aren't covered under school zones fed law. Leaving the specific University to be able to set policy. L 1 • January 3 at 11:39pm William A Perry MO.-- NH resident.--This isn't Texas in 1850-- I am a responsible gun owner but I don't feel the need to carry them everywhere.-- I should be able to go to a college campus or anywhere without seeing people toting guns except law enforcement.... That is my freedom.--- Freedom goes both ways. 2 • January 4 at 12:05am - Edited

• Richard Angell When the government is armed and the people aren't, that is the epitome of tyranny and slavery. Your cognitive dissonance is showing. 1 • January 4 at 7 51am Chris Hemmah No, your freedom ends when it is at the expense of others freedom. Individual lalla liberty is interesting in that way. Try minding your own business instead. 1 • January 4 at 7 52arn kli 0 i William A Perry Richard Angell --- Go see a therapist for your anti government paranoia.-- You li*L' and so many others need help. January 4 at 7 54am = Knicole Elizabeth It's worst than a Texas 1850! January 4 at 8 29arn pt William A Perry —CMG they are out there.— "4:1- January 4 at 8 37am

Jim Dwy ityes January 4 at 12:05am Janice Jean No ry 4 at 12:1 am Dana Snell Yes January 4 at 1224am Rob Daigle #YES Vnhresident 4). January 4 at 12:32am Jeff Goodreau ffYES NH Resident January 4 at 12:34am Mike Robertson #yes i want my daughters to be able to protect themselves 2 • January 4 at 12:49am Mary Hodgman MO, NH Resident. For decades no one carried a gun to community and school functions and no one's dick fell off. Pretty sure we could continue the practice of acting like civilized folk and not the Wild West with out anyone losing their masculinity. 3 • January 4 at 1:12am Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 43

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Nemi Jones Uh.

I was on my high school rifle team.

And what's that about my dick? 2 January 4 at 1:49am Mary Hodgman Nemi Jones And you feel the need to tote a gun to community functions and school functions? Some people don't need a dick to feel threatened by not being able to shoot people around them at the drop of a hat. So sorry your world view includes such a terrifying reality. January 4 at 2 16am rig Richard Angell Sometimes civilised folk carry a gun. If you think such a thing is uncivilised...you 1942 have been brainwashed. January 4 at 3 00am fla Patrick Brandzen It's almost as if Nemi wants to carry a firearm for self-defense.. Mill Insinuating carrying a gun is an uncivilized thing is proof of you being brainwashed. 3 January 4 at 3 51am thl James Mahoney Mary Hodgman the responsible Gun is not going to Shoot somebody at the Iam drop of a hat. You would be surprised how many people carry concealed and you have no idea.The terrifying reality Mary is we do have school Shootings. So it happens. If you want to be a Victim and wait for Law Enforcement that is your right. Funny though I'm willing to bet a years pay if you were involved in a situation like a School Shooting and you noticed a Citizen carrying a Gun you would want them to act and save you. January 4 at 4 37am Edited Mary Hodgman Holding onto them jewels and brandishing that piece LMAOI January 4 at 4 59am Jesse Kanter Mary, I think you have the wrong impression of lawful gun ownership. You need to ala talk to these people and figure out why people carry. You are misinformed... 1 January 4 at 7 03am Nemi Jones Mary, I have an inherent right to self-defense wherever I go, and generally choose "44 tools appropriate to the situation. Today, for example, it's a chainsaw and a shovel. Yesterday, it was a machete.

Yes, when I'm on-campus after dark or while walking alone, a sidearm is likely going to be one of my first choices.

Would you like to inquire after any circumstances under which I've drawn that (or other) weapons, or do you want to keep on with this awkward line of assumptions regarding male genetalia? January 4 at 7 41am Chris Hemmah Why is it that foolish anti gunners are always resorting to talking about other a people's genitalia. It's almost like an obsession. 1 January 4 at 7 51am In Richard Angell If I called anti gunners pussies I'd be called a misogynist. How familiar are you tall' with the term that serves as the masculine counterpart?

Look up misandrist. January 4 at 7 59am rt Nemi Jones ... is there a picture of my dick there, Richard? LMAO January 4 at 8 04am Knicole Elizabeth Classy January 4 at 8 30am Nemi Jones Just wait 'til I start wagglin' it at people. Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 44

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Becky Hudson #NO I wholeheartedly disagree with open/conceal carry for citizens January 4 ai 1:52am David A Blodgett You ever hear of inalienable rights if not look it up. You want to give away your Li rights that's your business but don't expect others to do the same 2 r January 4 at 2:57am Richard Angell Make that unalienable. FE January 4 at 3 02am Knicole Elizabeth an taw 4 at 8:30am

Charles John Merida frYes, but only concealed. People freak out when they see Firearms, but also People die when someone starts shooting at people. I don't want a Mass Shooting in New Hampshire, so yes - Allow Conceal Carry in New Hampshire. January 4 at 2:47am RE Richard Angell More exposure will eventually calm the freaks down once they get used to It. A security guard at UNH told some gun toting companions of mine, "No guns allowed... but if I don't see them, I won't ask." 1 January 4 al 8 05am

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• Brian J. Stone Others' alarm or discomfort doesn't supersede another's rights. They will get used to it. 1 • January 4 at 9;49pm

Jay Matukas /ryes anuary 4 at 2:48ain Amelia Dube No, drug free, smoke free zones and gun free should also be on schools grounds, campus. anuary 4 at 2:53am

• Richard Angell OK. You be the playground moderator. January 4 at 2:56am • Jesse Kanter Make sure you make the gun free zone sign really really big. We need to make sure that people with the intent to hurt others, see the sign and put their guns away before entering the school. 2 • January 4 at 7:05am

David A Blodgett Here is a better question. Why is the STATE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE even allowed to have any say when its a CORPORATION and not a Constitutional form of government. Along with every U COUNTY OF, CITY OF and TOWN OF they are all unconstitutional forms of government 2 • January 4 at 2:55am

tail Judith A. Gould Hell, no! Iiiir January 4 at 3 01am Richard Angell #abstain [nh resident] Trick question. The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. That much is clear, but what is the State doing involving itself in education in the first place? I maintain that there should be separation of Education and State. Let's start there. 2 January 4 at 3 07ain

Connie Ramsdell Your quote is taken out of context. In it's entirety it means something far different. And it is VERY clear. "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed" We now have a well regulated army, navy, air force, coast guard, marines, national guard, police, state police etc. January 4 at 9 59am Jillian Carleton Connie, our military was never originally intended to be standing army... Much less a standing army colonizing the world... But here we are.

Let everyone keep their guns. I trust the Hicks, (no offense, nothing but love,) more than people who are being trained with our tax dollars by foreign agents. 1 • January 4 at 7 51pm Edited • Brian J. Stone Connie Ramsdell You should brush up on your case law: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/.../District_of Columbia_v... District of Columbia v. Heller - Wikipedia EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG

1 January 4 at 9 51pm Jard Allanson Haha, good point Richard Angell. Fully agreed. Abolish state schools and this am question becomes moot! January 5 at 5 19pm

Jim DuBois No. January 4 at 3:09am John W Pare Jr. If their legal gunowners why not January 4 at 3:19am

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Lance Bennett ffyes January 4 at 3.20am

1 William Von Gillern NH resident- open carry NO! Concealed, perhaps. Bring back Wyatt Earp and check your guns in the "saloon," YES! January 4 at 3:44am

Richard Angell Another one who's been watching too many Westerns! Look up the truth about the Wld West and the origin of Western shootouts, and be amazed. January 4 at 8;10an1 William Von Gillern You miss my sarcasm sir. I am much more schooled than just you insinuate. Flal Plus growing in Chicago during the Black P-Stone Rangers and other gang affiliates( things are no different than they were 60 years ago) I abhor the gun culture that has permeated this nation. Though I live in a " guns are macho cool" State with many friends who are avid gun collectors, hunters, and/or recreational shooters, they respect my opinion as I respect their rights. I want present laws enforced, I want a ban on assault weapons and the stock modifications, and I want checks on every type of sale. Oh, and by the way, Mr. Angell, I do not watch westerns and have not since I was in grade school in the. 50's. January 4 at 8:24am • Edited

Patrick Brandzen #yes Gun free zones are bad 2 - January 4 at 3:52am Connie Ramsdell but a bunch of wannabe men with guns is okay? January 4 at 10:01am Patrick Brandzen Wannabe men? I think you mean men that want to have the best option for self-defense. 1 January 4 at 1.50pm

Timothy Shiner Absolutely January 4 at 3:55am Kimberly Groszswicz Yes liJanuary 4 at 3:55am Bruce Belanger Yes January 4 at 4:15am Will Sparklin yes January 4 at 4 32am Sam Case Nh resident. Ityes. 1 - January 4 at 4 43am Maria Andrews Yes! I'm a NH resident. January 4 at 4 45am Jon Samson NH resident. /ryes I think this would discourage any more college campus shootings. Not to mention New Hampshire's new concealed carry law would allow for for discretion without the need for a permit. I think if more people carried in this country these mass shootings would at least be squashed much sooner than they are with less casualties. January 4 at 4:46am Kevin Bryant The US Constitution already guarantees it. 3 , January 4 at 4 49am Eric B. Woodard //Yes. Reason being NH is quiet compared to other states. We enjoy a peace that others dream of, drug problem aside. A little citizen security would give even more peace of mind against 2 terrorist attacks, or mass shootings. 1 - January 4 at 4 49am Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 47

Austin Richard Still trying to figure out why we are restricted in the first place. 2nd amendment is pretty clear when it says, "shall not be infringed." 3 • January 4 at 4 53am

Mark Scheerhoorn Yeah, and if you had a brain you'd be dangerous January 4 at 4:59am Austin Richard Smart enough to read the constitution... 1 January 4 al 5.01 am Matt Wrightington I know right lol somehow the first amendment applies to everything including pretending to be a different gender but the second only applies to muskets 2 • January 4 at 5 54am MA Austin Richard Matt, liberals don't care about anyone else's freedoms. They only push what they 11.11 want while preaching tolerance and handing out needles to dope heads. January 4 at 5 55am MN Richard Angell Mark: "I have no valid argument, so... You're stupid!" ral January 4 at 8:13am

Fred Koster Austen quotes only the last part of a sentence, but he's the smart one? OK ;tit January 4 at 1:24pm

Mark Scheerhoorn ItNo a January 4 at 4:58am isa Cordwell ityes! Concealed or not. nuary 4 at 4:59am Nantalina Spina Yes 1111 January 4 at 5:04am Joel Folliard MO NH Resident 11January 4 at 5:04am Curtis Barrieault itYes p January 4 at 5:06am Edited Ty Thurston #yes ....it's the people who carry and conceal that will save the day before the cops do I I proven time and time again ....if people don't like the gun laws move to England -4- 4 • January 4 at 5:08am Jason Boulard Theres nowhere in the world where you don't have the RIGHT OF SELF DEFENSE SO YES!! January 4 at 5:11am Doug Dividio yes January 4 at 5:12am • Curtis Benoit Its called concealed ,you dont know,you dont see ,none of your business January 4 at 5:13am Jim Stejskal No nuary 4 at 5:14am Matt Jodoin The constitution does, so 1 • January 4 at 5:15am Dennis Francoeur Jr. Yes it is our right 1 • January 4 at 5:16am Ralph Cameron Shall not be infringed 1 January 4 at 5:16am Joey Boulanger ltno NH resident. Statistics prove that gun ownership increases the risk of gun injury. Why on Earth would you allow guns on campuses when NH has no history of gun violence on college Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 48

campuses? You're just increasing the risk of injury/death. January 4 at 5 23am

Matt Wrightington How about you look at the facts NH has one of the highest rates of gun ownership in the country had one of the highest rates of concealed weapons permit holders (when we required them ) and has never had an issue with gun violence or gun crime I will not disarm and make myself a potential victim in order to attain higher education. It is my right as an American citizen to be able to defend myself where and when ever I wish 4 ! January 4 at 5 59am Joey Boulanger Actually New Hampshire has one of the lowest gun ownership rates in the country, at 14.4% (cbsnews.com). That being said, a study posted in the American Journal of Medicine found that the US has a gun homicide rate 25.2 times higher than the 22 other high- income, developed countries it was compared to (http://www.amjmed.com/article/50002- 9343(15)01030-X/fulltext). The US also has a higher rate of gun ownership, and more lax laws, according to the study. It's plain to see that the US has a gun problem, and I think the information I provided shows a strong correlation between gun ownership and gun violence in the US. I think the issue is way more complicated than "it is my right as an American citizen to be able to defend myself where and whenever I wish", especially when people are dying at a disproportionate rate because of America's obsession with guns. SC135 CBS News: Breaking news, streaming live, 24x7

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Claire Petuck NO.. dangerous for others! January 4 at 524am Shawn McGrath Absolutely yes. There are no laws that will stop anyone from losing thier mind with a gun on any college campus. But allowing to legally carry will give you the chance to defend yourself and others. 1 ! January 4 at 5:25am Dave Stew yes nuary 4 at 5:26am Connie Rancourt Yes. The Constitution gives us that right ( 2nd Amendment) and well trained people can make a difference. 1 ! January 4 at 5:28am Dave Gardner no because the university's are for learning and are not dodge city. January 4 at 5:36am Stan Barker RPG's or nothing 1 ! January 4 at 5:40am Bill Marr ayes

Hell yes! January 4 at 5 41am Caine Steelwind #no January 4 at 5:44am Brian Boudreau Yes January 4 at 5:50am Gil Lambert ffno tired of ammosexuals 1 ! January 4 at 5:50am Matt Wrightington ffyes nh resident " The right of the people to keep and bare arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" is pretty clear on the matter

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Lucinda Hollingsworth Boutin LIVE FREE OR DIE January 4 at 6 01am Greg Root /Nes NH resident nuary 4 at 6:02am Edited Robert Oster If it pleases the crown the pheasants would like to carry their weapons....The gov does NOT grant Americans their rights FML January 4 at 6:02am Lucinda Hollingsworth Boutin You do realize the patriots in the United States are the last line defending the world from tyranny? If our firearms go, all freedoms will follow. 5 • January 4 at 6 04am Robert Oster Its sad Americans don't know the 2a is not about hunting or home defense It is a check and balance between We The People and the government...It is also a main reason we have never been 3 invaded. 4 • January 4 at 6 06am A Polite Society So it's in place to eliminate a bad president? January 4 at 7 15am WA Justin Crowder If you can make it that far, yes. Political figures are not exempt from being fought ma off if they are found tyrannical. Athens, tennessee 1946, I believe the year was. Prime example 1 • January 4 at 7:17am Robert Oster Yes Justin Crowder January 4 at 7 37arn L,- Robert Oster If you are trying to say Trump is tyrannical 1st off that is a lie and second she moronic 1 • January 4 at 7 Mani Ellen Oberkotter It is not there to eliminate a president one does not like or agree with. If anyone am thinks the current government is tyrannical, you are a poor student of history. Those of you who call the current president a Nazi are insulting the people who actually had to deal with Nazis. 1 • 6 hrs

Jett Terish Pretty sure secondary schools are covered under the nh ccl January 4 at 6:07am Robert Oster The Federal Reserve is not part of the government it is a private bank that loans our gov and banks fiat $$$ at interest Which is why in 1950 a gallon of gas was 25 cents etc Every dollar Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 50

they print becomes more worthless than the last further putting debt and enslaving our kids and grandkids It is the greatest theft ever on the American people 1 • January 4 at 6 09am Kirsten Rae I can't wait for Al to wipe the human race off the face of this earth. Bell January 4 at 6:10am Stan Miller No January 4 at 6 11am Keith Moulton YES IF properly trained, they are in a collage, that should be easy. January 4 at 6 16am Eli Heath Yes the right to protect yourself or your family should not end when you leave your house, it is a constitutional state. 1 • January 4 at 6:26am Gary Whitehouse Of course. January 4 at 6:26am David Dave Williams Gun Free Zones are shooting galleries for cowardly terrorists. 1 - January 4 at 6 30am James Matteuzzi The second amendment says, shall not infringe! No laws should be passed, ever, concerning gun ownership. It's unconstitutional. ayes, 2 January 4 at 6:31am Edited Jon Lajoie Its funny how they use a chromed out desert eagle in the picture lol most people dont 12 carry a $2,000 50 cal handgun 4.? I Mean I gotta sexy little SIG 45 compact but its no D.E 72) 1 , January 4 at 6 41am Edited

Glen Trammell keep right to carry! anuary 4 at 6:31am Frederic Chelminski Yes. Because a criminal who intends harm doesn't even care about those kind of laws. Homicide and mass shootings would decrease if your 2'nd amendment rights were respected. A disarmed society is a rich opportunity haven for violent crime. January 4 at 6:33am Steve Duncan We Americans have a Constitutional right to bare arms. Don't ever let a servant rouge government to ever offer you a choice between being free to decide and some other choice they have no business even asking. You are the master in this land so be free and ask not where your power is derived. January 5 at 5 49pm

Mike Paulin I don't really see the need for the law - while I support the right to carry and yes, even on a college campus. However, the wording of the law is not the best - 'outdoors' on state college or university campuses? Most folks don't go to a college or university to roam around outdoors - you go there with the intent to enter a building to attend a class, workshop, seminar, etc. Very rarely would go to just hangout outside January 4 at 6 37arn

Brian J. Stone What about a student leaving a firearm in their vehicle or going to events outdoors? There are various reasons that someone who isn't even a student could be on a campus ground. January 4 at 8 15pm

Jesse Kanter 1/yes who's to say I didn't Carry back in college.. my protection over your opinion. 2 January 4 at 7 06am A Polite Society What a bunch of pussies these gun owners are. M January 4 at 7:14am , Todd Hillebrecht Connie that is so true. There shouldn't be any restrictions m January 4 at 7:18am Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 51

Brett Megan ayes January 4 at 7:16am A Polite Society Shall not be infringed!

January 4 at 7:21am Chris Hemmah #yes NH Resident, public universities should follow state law in regards to this. And the reasons against in this article are the same tired old tripe offered by hoplophobes every time the topic of carry comes up. These places won't become shooting galleries, stop watching so many old western movies and join us in the real world.

Another note, why do we need a law for this. It's public, should it not already fall under existing statutes for NH state owned property, despite what the school administration says. January 4 at 7:40am Roy Fairfield YES! nuary 4 at 7:40aru Sherry Brennan-Bordalo No January 4 at 7:41am John McLarney /Nes! All or nearly all of New Hampshire's colleges and state universities have highly traveled public roads the pass through their campuses. Gun carriers shouldn't have to detour around these roads. January 4 at 7:59am Joel Shortlidge #yes January 4 at 8:15am Carolyn Grant YES. NH RESIDENT. January 4 at 8:16am Knicole Elizabeth :Ryes - NH resident. A person has the right to protect themselves wherever they are January 4 at 3:30am David Wright No. We all should be Armed with Liberal Rape Whistles. 3 January 4 at 8:35am William Montalvo YES January 4 at 8:45am Robert Bowie #yes January 4 at 8:53am Charles McKenney No guns on campus, enough pressure from peers and studies. 1 January 4 at 8:54am Mark Drake #YES NHres " January 4 at 9:01am Bill Healey Jr Absolutely no. School is for education and learning. Let the schools proved security. 1 January 4 at 9:14am Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 52

Anthony Robert Skarda What if the school is not allowed to have armed security? January 4 at 1 01pm kilig Bill Healey Jr Stud guns, code for quick call to police, or keeping the entrances (all) are locked. milm Also a check at all entrances like at air ports. Unfortunately times have changed. Or kids gave to be protect with out fear. January 4 at 3 21pm I I Adam Samuels Like Virginia Tech in 2007, right? 32 people didn't need to die in that gun free zone...

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Jimmy Hescock This shouldn't even be a question ! You have the right to protect yourself and criminals who wish to do harm don't follow laws so only makes sense that people who are trusted enough to have a a gun should be able to carry it anywhere January 4 at 9;20am Kerry Sapienza Should be able to carry ANYWHERE in the United States! Not limited to certain places! January 4 at 9:21am Lydia Cannata Carry on January 4 at 9 46am Connie Ramsdell gun advocates have gone too far January 4 at 10 01am

Adam Samuels How so? Do you realize that every time you go to the market, or buy gas, you are ill likely to be standing next to a person concealing a firearm? Maybe you should never leave the house... January 5 at 4A3am Connie Ramsdell See what I mean? I know that people are in public places. I also know that stores discourage them and they are watched if they do come in with it. Isn't that a great way to have to live our lives because some people think a gun makes them tough and manly (even the women who carry). One of the most ironic signs I see are no sunglasses, no hoodies, for our safety. They cannot say no guns. How stupid is that in a bank? Our country has less social responsibility every day. It is all about me, me, me. I look around every time I take my granddaughters out in public for these fools. It would be better for the majority of the country if you never left the house. A person who values his guns more than his family, his neighbors and coworkers has a screw loose in my opinion. Most Americans feel the same way, but the treasonous NRA has convinced you otherwise. Do you know what the 2nd Amendment says? It says you don't need guns anymore because we now have an army January 5 at 6 55am • Edited

Josh Hatchell Hell yes!!! uary 4 at 10 09am - Robert Akillian Yeah, that's all we need, shootout on campuses. The first responders wouldn't know m which ones are the bad guys. 2 . January 4 at 10 12am Jocelyn Blease can we stop with the guns? If you have them, fine but they have a time and a place - discernment is great. 2 January 4 at 10 14am Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 53

Jocelyn Blease You ASSume too much. I own but I don't carry every where I go - no need. DISCERNMENT look it up. January 4 at 10:26am ri Rhonda Pelletier I feel ppl should GET PERMITS , CARRY if you FEEL the need but I I" CERTAIN areas should be Gun free I dont even go to a Movie theater anymore ...not because theyre MAY be a guy w/ a gun but because their IS A MAN ( manyll) W/ a gun and MANY have TEMPER problems ....no thx ....i like No drama in my life 1 January 4 at 12:31pm Adam Samuels What time and which place? III January 5 at 4:41am Joseph Brown Rhonda Pelletier Yet, have you ever heard of one of these supposed dangerous gun owners shooting up a theater in NH? Or /any/ public shooting?

This is one of the safest places on the entire planet. If you are fearing for your safety in a place like this, that's paranoia, and you should literally seek out proper help for that. I'm not being sarcastic or cruel, there (I realize it can be hard to tell, in text) - it's very unhealthy to live in such constant fear, and there are psychologists who can help you. 16 hrs

Kolt Wellington-virgin #yes nuary 4 at 10:56am Marc Harlock Santosuosso styes nh resident January 4 at 10 59am David K Murotake Yes. I am a NH State Rep. However, the bill is more likely to pass if univarsities and community colleges were permitted to restrict it to CONCEALED CARRY (CC) only. CC is already permitted by Federal law if the Individual has a valid CC permit and carries the firearm concealed.

3 • January 4 at 11:01am Joseph Brown Concealed carry does not require a license in NH. Which does mean that requiting concealed carry is more palatable than if it meant only those with license would be able to carry.

I think that a stipulation that so long as no license is required for concealed carry, they can opt to prohibit open carry (as a matter of their code of conduct, not law) would be acceptable, so long as the penalty for failure to conceal is limited to a reprimand, not expulsion. 16 hrs a,, Michael Rush Yes , January 4 at 11:01am Paula Runyan Keep your guns to yourself El January 4 at 11:07am 1 II Adam Samuels It's called "concealed carry". And, yes, we do... Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 54

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Kay Reinold I don't think guns should be in schools or colleges But they should have special people with them to protect the students January 4 at 11:17am 4 Darren Holmes Hell yeah!! 7 6 a- January 4 at 11:42am ' Marvin Herzig ffyes.NH res. IIIJanuary 4 al 11:53am David Baker Yes! January 4 at 12:00pm Preston Weaver Yes, campus security can't be everywhere every second, it's your right not a privilege, and things usually happen when security isn't there. The right to defend/protect yourself should not be over shadowed by someone else's feelings, one's life is worth more than one's opinion 1 • January 4 at 12:12pm

Adam Samuels And campus security couldn't hit the broad side of a barn if they tried... I January 5 at 4:38am

Jack Turner Absolutely and grenades are optional nuary 4 at 12:12pm Pam Beaumont YES - if they do, and a nut job starts shooting - they will be neutralized. January 4 at 12.20pm Jacob Mailhot Open carry is the law, sb/12 is the law, unless it's posted you can carry E January 4 at 12:23pm Shawn Gailey Styes support the second. Live free or die!! anuary 4 at 12:31 pm Joe Capriotti There are no gun free zones! 1 - January 4 at 12:55pm Tammy Lesperance Crazy people are everywhere and need to be stopped Most people who have an Itc carry with care and intelligence if you have an Ito you should be able to carry everywhere you go Sometimes just knowing their might be someone that could fight back can prevent a predator from carrying out their whacked out thoughts 1 • January 4 at 12:58pm Anthony Robert Skarda Nh resident 1/yes , although, government shouldn't be involved in regulating fire arms. All the nayr's can move back to mass, go finish off your home state 1 • January 4 at 1:04pm Richard Boyd Yes I agree January 4 at 1:20pm Dan Williams Here's an idea: Since the NH legislature is in the midst of passing an education bill that - - skirts the law and our founding documents by a clever semantic twisting of the following language - "But no person shall ever be compelled to pay towards the support of the schools of any sect or denomination." Lets do the same with gun legislation. The 2nd amendment says "The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." "Keep" is defined as . .. "have or retain possession of', while "bear" is defined as ... "to carry." So - there's NOTHING in the 2nd amendment about restricting a person's right to PURCHASE firearms - which is an entirely different action than to "keep" or "bear" them. So, while we cannot pass any legislation that restricts people who already "keep and bear" firearms from doing so - we are certainly able to pass laws restricting the PURCHASE of firearms. 1 • January 4 at 1:31 pm Hide 20 Replies Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on FIB 1542 55

Dan Williams Walter Rosen Dude ... I've never lived in a dwelling without guns in it except for four years in college. I own several firearms. I use them all the time for hunting and target shooting ... ASSume MUCH911?r, January 4 at 3:36pm Dan Williams Walter Rosen Besides if I ever got sick of NH I sure as hell wouldn't move to MA - I'd probably go back to my home state of Vermont. January 4 at 3:43pm Adam Samuels Hmmm...which "founding documents" are you referring to Dan Williams? 'H January 5 at 4:35am Dan Williams Adam Samuels SB 193 is in direct opposition to the Bill of Rights: "... But no person shall ever be compelled to pay towards the support of the schools of any sect or denomination." [ Article 6] January 5 at 4:58am Dan Williams Adam Samuels That is why they had to create a "middle man" to give the funds to in between taking them from citizens and giving them to religious institutions. In other words, they chose the crime of money laundering over the crime of unConstitutionality. January 5 at 4:59am Adam Samuels Money laundering is hysterical. The money can be used for any school. There is Ill nothing wrong here. But we know you suck off the teat of public education (where you do most of your social media activity) so we're not surprised.. January 5 at 6:04am • Edited Dan Williams Adam Samuels Actually I don't do ANY of my social media activity at work. It would be impossible for me to do so - I'm only on one social media site and it's blocked during school hours. But feel free to spin another untrue yarn about me when you're not flushing what few morals/principals you had down the toilet in favor of selling your soul to the FSP. January 5 at 7:28am FM Bob Robertson Abolish all tax funding for schools. 1 January 5 at 10:23am 11111 Adam Samuels Dan Williams That has already been proven. You can't deny it. You can use your I I phone if the computer is blocked...oh, and I'm not affiliated, in any way, to the FSP. #WrongAgain 1 • January 5 at 'I 0i59am Dan Williams Adam Samuels VVTF are you talking about, "that has already been proven?". Proven how? By whom? SMH. January 5 at 12:42pm Dan Williams Bob Robertson Then how will schools operate? You hate Thomas Jefferson don't you? January 5 at 12A3prn Richard Angell ^They won't except for private funding. And we don't need schools, anyway. They (especially taxpayer funded ones) are brainwashing institutions.

As for hating Thomas Jefferson, what kind of joke is that? The founding fathers did not have school. They were educated at home or at the family work place.

Mass education got started after the War of Norther Agression so as to brainwash the populace into accepting the official narrative of what we now call the Civil War. When we talk about school districts, we're talking about military occupation zones from the Reconstruction era. 1 January 6 at 1:33am Dan Williams Richard Angell Are you an adam samuels having a contest to see who can be the biggest idiot? If so, then you win with this post. Let's recap: You believe ... 1) schools are evil 2) slavery is good. More specifically you believe that public education started as a northern plot during the Reconstruction era, and you wish the south should've won the Civil War. It's one thing to spout lines like "public schools indoctrinate kids" or "public schools foist a liberal agenda on kids" (neither of which are true btw.) It's quite another to be so mentally unhinged that you concoct elaborate fictions regarding one of the bedrock institutions of our country. I suggest you educate yourself. Read the following ... http://www.sfitoday.com/.../article_f05aa5b0-2fed-5c63... Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 56 Founding Fathers agreed: Funding public education is not a debate

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January 6 at 5:03am Bob Robertson Dan Williams If you don't know the difference between education and "schooling", you're likely a "graduate" of the government "schools".

http:llmhkeehn.tripod.com/ughoae.pdf January 6 at 7:50am Dan Williams Bob Robertson Please cite where I said I didn't know the difference, Glibertarian Ian' Bo b . . . January 6 at 7 51am Bob Robertson Adam Samuels Dan sure has a broad brush. He has a list of things to hate, and anyone who disagrees with him automatically is painted with that list. 1 • January 6 at 7 51am

Dan Williams Bob Robertson Sorry Bobby, I know you finally woke up and sobered up but I have a life ... good day sir. January 6 at 7:52am 11 Adam Samuels Bob Robertson He not only has been brainwashed, he's a card carying I "educator". So you can imagine him referencing DailyKos and having such Statist, Marxist views... gotta help keep the State as powerful as possible... January 6 at 11 19am Edited 111 Adam Samuels Dan Williams also follows the Liberal playbook of going to the bottom of Graham's hierarchy/pyramid as fast as possible...

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Leidy Rivas # yes ,nh resident 1 January 4 at 1:42pm Edward Billingsley Yes January 4 at 1:42pm

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Sarah Jessurun #Yes from NH but I think it would best be implemented through some kind of gun safety/defense certification that both students and staff members (or anyone, if it were to expand to other public areas) can take. It could carry roughly the same weight as being first aid/CPR certified. That way other students will feel more comfortable around those who are carrying (i.e. it would remove most of the stigma), and they might even feel more secure knowing they're present. And if there is an actual threat, the armed individuals will be prepared to the best of their ability. Win-win for everyone. 1 January 4 at 1.55pm

Sarah Jessurun It's not about "obstructing our rights," it's about respecting firearms and making g4 sure we're prepared to use them in the safest and smartest way. You hear about cops making dumb decisions with them all the time, and they have more training than joe schmo. For a sensitive area like a school campus, especially if there are already gun victims present, we could stand to be a little thoughtful about how to approach this matter. January 4 at 3-30pm Walter Rosen Cops usually have way less training than the average citizen. Cops usually shoot their guns 1 time a year. To qualify. That's it. They don't go to the range to practice like the average citizen January 4 at 3:34pm Sarah Jessurun Walter Rosen Totally get what you're saying, but I think you mean the average ea firearm owner - if the average citizen owned and carried I think there would be a lot less debate about guns in general. Either way, why would they mind a little extra training if it tells the general public that they're knowledgeable and responsible about firearms? Again, we don't trust lifeguards to do their job unless they're first aid and CPR certified. Guns arguably require more split-second decisions to be executed properly in a threatening situation, so why should we treat them with any less weight? January 4 at 3 43pm Adam Samuels The question is whether public colleges should be treated the same as other 111 public spaces (where no "training" is required), not whether we should mandate training for students only. It doesnt work that way. Some enterprising student can get trained and certified and make some good money training others... 1 January 5 at 4:33am Edited Adam Samuels No #YesButs III January 5 at 4:34am El Sarah Jessurun I was just sharing an idea that might make opponents more open to having ea firearms on campus (or other public buildings where they're banned if you go back and read the comment). The whole reason our country in general is having trouble passing legislation is exactly BECAUSE we're only looking at things from a "yes or no" perspective. Real life is a little bit more nuanced than that. January 5 at 7 16am peg Joseph Brown Sarah Jessurun Offering voluntary classes would be a good idea. Mandatory government classes are just an added cost on exercising a right; they serve the same purpose as a poll tax or literacy test in order to vote (ie, to restrict certain classes from exercising that right), and are illegal and unconstitutional, just like those poll taxes and literacy tests.

I'm all for offering classes for free to those who want them. As a firearms instructor, I would be happy to volunteer time for the purpose. January 5 at 10 04am

Bob Robertson Correct wording of the question is, "Should NH defend the right of gun owners to carry heir arms while outdoors on state college or university campuses?"

It's still a silly question, since the only legitimate purpose of a government is to defend rights and property, but at least this way it's silly and worded correctly. 1 January 4 at 2:05pm Edited Calvin Hahn IV 1/yes NH resident 1 January 4 at 3.04pm Kathy Lavigne Absolutely not. Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 58

January 4 at 3:06pm Kregg Boisvert 'merica! January 4 at 3:13pm Barbara Silva No nuary 4 at 3:17pm Juan Toledo Hell yes January 4 at 3:18pm Frank Evitts yes s January 4 at 3:21pm Walter Rosen ilyes. My Resident. January 4 at 3;32prn Serena Drunkle rtYes if people had guns they could defend themselves and others when something actually does happen. I think they should not only be allowed but be encouraged by the school. Guns=Safety 2 • January 4 at 3:37pm Jay Melcher ilyes Unewhampshireresident 1 January 4 at 4:09pm Robert E Algier Yes anuary 4 at 4:25pm Kevin Marshall Yes Londonderry NH 2 January 4 at 4:26pm Chris Muskus #Yes #NHResident 1 January 4 at 4:27pm Shaun Kelley Yes Bedford NH 1 January 4 at 4A4prn Raymond Mc Dougall Yes but not private schools. Freedom goes both ways. 2 January 4 at 4A5pm

Linda Gagnon Why not private schools that makes no sense as u say it goes both ways January 5 at 3:54am kJ Bill Rosser Linda Gagnon Private schools could never be enforced because it is private property and New Hampshire respects the right of a property owner to be able to decide who can bring what and do what on their own private property... Just like you could ask someone to leave your house for something is arbitrary as them not wearing a shirt and tie... Homes and places of business should always be guaranteed a reasonable rate to be able to refuseAccess to anyone at their discretion but also give law-abiding citizens a right to peacefully leave if the private place wishes to remain gun free 2 January 5 at 9:51am Bob Robertson Which is an excellent argument for abolish government schools entirely. January 5 al 10:22am Raymond Mc Dougall Bill Rosser well said. Freedom allows private schools weather we like it or not.W January 6 at 10.31am Raymond Mc Dougall Bob Robertson there is a balance between government and private. Freedom to disagree is fundamental January 6 at 10:33am

Ryan Carr Strip gun free zone laws. They are unconstitutional and create a "fish in a barrel" situation for active shooters. Look at the recent shootings over the last 10 years. Almost all in gun free zones. 6 January 4 at 4:59prn Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 59

Bob Scott Definitely bob from n.h. January 4 at 5 05pm Colin Fletcher #yes January 4 at 5 36pm John Reed Good gawd, all god's children gone insane! No, no, 100x no! January 4 at 6.58pm Hide 12 Replies

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M.1. John Reed Ask the police chief in Dallas what happens when you have a shooter situation in the n' middle of an "open carry" protest. Or recent events in Florida, where residents had to be told to NOT shoot at the hurricane! January 5 at 9:11am S'a Dan Davis Please, "had to tell people not to shoot at hurricane " John , with all due respect, you mill are incredibly gullible. January 5 at 9 56am John Reed No, that's a real thing. So is the number of people killed by toddlers finding unsecured weapons (More deadly than Islamic terrorists on US soil!) January 6 at 10 06am sid Caitlyn April John Reed, that's insane. January 6 at 4 57am mg John Reed You mean toddlers shooting Mommy in Wal-Mart? Google it! Or read the big sign °'-r• 2 beside the door at Rielly's in Hooksett. Nut

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January 6 at 6:05am Joseph Brown John Reed No, the "don't shoot at the hurricane" thing was a satirical article. It was decidedly untrue and not "a real thing."

If what you say about guns is true, then since NH is the most pro-gun place on the entire planet, the streets should be running with blood, right?

Oh, wait... NH is also one of the top safest places on the entire planet.

Science, therefore, says you're 100% wrong. January 6 at 6 22prn M.: John Reed Inductive logic in invalid in this case. NH NOT most pro-gun place in the world - more likely Somalia, Yemen, or the Afghan/Pakistan border. January 6 at 9 01pin Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 60

Joseph Brown John Reed Nope, its NH. Because facts.

And even /if/, just for the sake of argument, the actual top slot was edged out by one of those three, NH would still be so stratospherically high on the scale that it still disproves your assertion, with room to spare. 17 hrs MI John Reed You cannot make your own facts, and ideologes like you shouldn't even try. Here's a ra- table you'll find interesting: Murders (table at link, there are related ones as well) This is a list of the U.S. states and the District of Columbia. The population data is the official data from the U.S. Census Bureau[5]. The murder rates and gun murder rates were calculated based on the FBI reports[6]. The official population of each state for 2010 and gun ownership rates were added for context[7].

The official population data from the U.S. Census Bureau in 2010 is 309.3 million. The gun murders in 2010 from FBI reports is 8,374.

In 2010 the solved gun murder rate for the U.S. was 2.71 per 100,000, the overall estimated gun homicide rate is 3.5. The link:https://en.wikipedia.org/.../Firearm_death_rates_in_the... Firearm death rates in the United States by state - Wikipedia

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16 hrs Joseph Brown John Reed Um, did you have a point? I went to your link. I went to the murder section. I sorted by murder rate. NH was lowest. Urn, so thanks for providing evidence which proves me right, I guess? 16 hrs

Richard LeFrance #Yes NH resident. Get rid of all gun free zones. They're the only place mass shootings happen.. 6 January 4 at 7 'I Ipm Chris Walker #yes cuz let's be honest, we're doing it already. 3 • January 4 at 7:13pm Cliff Williams Life Free or Die Alliance - "Don't you want less freedom and more gub'ment to protect your from yourself?

I like how the profess to be a non-partisan think tank, proposing fair questions to collect response so they can testify during legislative hearings. 1 • January 4 at 7 22pm III Adam Samuels LFDA is def partisan...ffleftlean 1 • January 5 at 4:27am cone The Live Free or Die Alliance Cliff Williams, we're not advocating for the policies we ask about. LFDA These are actual bills being debated in the New Hampshire Legislature right now. As an organization, we don't take a position, except that we believe the public should have a stronger voice in these debates. 3 • January 5 at 6 50am Bob Robertson The wording of the questions exposes the extreme partisanship of the LFODA staff. 2 • January 5 al 10 21ain

Andy Crowley Only with psych eval anuary 4 at 11 32pm Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 61

Robert Tucker ityes. Because the only thing that will stop a bad guy with a gun effectively, is a good guy with a gun.

Also, the bill should get rid of the wording "while outdoors"

From Sunapee, NH 6 - January 5 at 1:50am • Edited Llessur Evol Only American citizens should be allowed to carry! Military weapon trained should be able to carry anywhere at anytime! #ARMYVET#PROUD #AMERICAN 3 • January 5 at 1 49am

Eddie Febonio U shouldnt havent to kill people overseas just to carry a gun outdoors. Its a right for all of us January 5 at 5:32am Llessur Evol That's not what I'm saying. If you're an American citizen pass the class to get your firearm. I'm saying that all military personnel have great training on firearms and shouldn't have to take a class to carry. concealed carry permit January 5 at 7 14am • Edited Matt Shibles If this guy is for gun safety course for non military im in. Military across the board are well trained, even the cooks in the coast guard. The accidents that usually happen are from untrained people. Im all for the 2nd amendment, but is it asking a lot to ask to have ppl take a cheap safety course one time in their lives? 1 • January 5 at 957am Matt Shibles They'll be trained on their local laws as well, and whatever else is necessary. That only makes safer and better gun owners 1 • January 5 at 9 57am Joseph Brown There's no training requirement in NH. This is one of the safest places on the planet. Apparently, while training is a good idea, lack of it does not actually have a significant impact on safety. January 5 at 10 01 am 211111, Jacob Mailhot I think in N.H. most gun owners are raised grow up around guns have hunting mar licenses, and my be more experience with guns then most military personnel using and practicing with their guns more often than just qualifying with a rifle once a year would make the New Hampshire Hunter more qualified to own a gun then say and military personnel. January 5 at 10 14am Llessur Evol There are hunters all over the US, so why would NH hunters be more qualified? I'm from Idaho so I must be more qualified than a NH hunters. January 5 at 5 55pm ma Joseph Brown Actually, more than half of all NH residents were not born here. Many moved from sal Mass, where guns are not common.

So, folks can move here, get no training, and still be safe. January 6 at 6:20pm

Christopher Grout New Hampshire resident

I'll be shocked if legislators actually listen to anything, but yes students should be allowed to carry their lawfully owned firearms on a campus that they have to foot the bill for.

How about this, legislators start realizing that they work for us. It's not the other way around people, shall not be infringed is about as simple and easy to understand as it gets, yet still we have legislation and elected representatives messing it all up.

Knock it off, or there are other solutions in the Declaration of Independence. Don't hear many legislators talking about that though do we? 3 • January 5 at 2:39am • Edited Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 62

Justin Gallant Yes it say it Everytime live free or die 2 • January 5 at 3:43am Harvey Baumann Never!!! anuary 5 at 4:05am Steven R. Roy Sr. /ryes nh resident. what part of "...shall not be infringed..." is not clear to you??? 5 . January 5 at 4:09am Adam Samuels Technically, since these are state funded or subsidized, we already should. So, yes...the natural right of self defense doesn't end at campus boundaries. 1 • January 5 at 4,25am

Dan Williams 2A says "The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." If you look up the definition of "keep" and "bear", you'll find that they don't mean the same thing as "purchase." So - is 2A saying that, while we can't prohibit existing gun owners from "keeping" and "bearing" arms - we CAN enact laws to restrict or screen potential "purchasers" of firearms before they actually have those weapons in their possession? I'd like to hear a Libertarian's point of view on this .. . January 5 at 5:23am Dan Williams crickets ... He can't answer because he knows if he answers the way he wants to it would expose himself as an opportunistic hypocrite. January 5 at 7:31am Joseph Brown Dan Williams Or, you know, some folks may not live on FB.

As to your question, no, that theory does not work. Imagine if someone suggested that "we won't ban speech, but we'll screen who is allowed to buy paper if we think they will write something offensive on it."

"Oh, we're not stopping them from cutting down trees and making their own paper, so we're not infringing their rights" would not cut it for free speech, would it?

Being able to exercise a right necessarily includes being able to obtain the materials fundamentally required to do so. January 5 at 9 59am I II Adam Samuels Dan Williams, I am not a teacher who can blog or troll on social media during a work time. Your "purchase" argument is a weak tanget, not even worth following. Back to my private sector (high paying) endeavors.. January 5 at 10:55am Dan Williams Adam Samuels Yup - that's all you care about. Money. You think you're somehow better than me because you chose a line of work that would make you richer. I chose a line of work that would allow me to inspire people and help people. Typical Libertarian. You're selfish and greedy - heck, you just admitted it! And by extension, you also admitted the true aim of all libertarian/FSPffea-party/hard-right Republicans in the year 2018 - to destroy the public sector completely and turn every institution into a money-making endeavor. How sad is must be to live a life where your only passion, your only concern, your only love - is money. It's ironic because I never considered myself to be one of those teachers who was always complaining about their salary. Sure I don't make as much as some people, but I love what I do, I make a decent living, have great healthcare benefits and lots of time off. I couldn't be happier or more fulfilled, actually. It's only when assholes like you come a long and - for no other reason than your hatred - bash the profession I love out of spite. That's the difference between your kind of person and my kind of person. I'm caring and thoughtful and think about others besides myself. You're a closed-minded, stingy, cheap-ass libertarian who pays lip service to things like "freedom" and "liberty" while you really only care about how much money adam samuels can make before he dies. It reminds me of one of my favorite Native American sayings: "When the last tree has been cut down, the last fish caught, the last river poisoned, only then will we realize that one cannot eat money." Oh and one more thing „ . NONE OF THE POSTS I MADE TODAY WERE MADE AT MY PLACE OF EMPLOYMENT. January 5 at 8 45pm

Mark Galvin The law should require that metal detectors and armed guards verify nobody enters a gun ree zone with a gun. Otherwise only criminals can bring guns into these zones as law abiding people Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 63

would not. There's no reasonable way to do this across a college campus, so guns should be allowed there. 2 - January 5 at 4:51an1 Diane Cote Landry yes, because: Second Amendment. The Second Amendment of the United States Constitution reads: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." 4 January 5 at 5:05am Eddie Febonio Yes 1 - January 5 at 5:30am James Stevens Yes 1 January 5 at 6:22am Gabe Buckley Yes we should Barrington nh 1 - January 5 at 6:23am Cory McPhillips Are those places somehow magically immune to criminal violence? January 5 at 6:52am Andy Dow I think only those who posses a concealed carry permit/license should be allowed to carry on school property. This due to schools being a favorite soft target of liberal douchebags that attend them. All kidding aside. I think if you have a concealed permit and attend a NRA/state police saftey course you should be able to carry on school grounds. Reasoning is the school would be less of a target and would- be attackers would know they wouldn't be able to slaughter Innocents without having to immediately face consequences. 1 - January 5 at 8:41am Jon Samson There is no longer a concealed carry permit in nh they passed that legislation last year January 5 at 9:53arn Andy Dow I think it was stupid to let everyone carry concealed. But I think our laws for background checks help counter some risk. It's the idiots carrying concealed who should never own one that worry me. January 5 at 9:54am no4 Chris Walker And you'll never be able to stop them, honestly. Felons buy illegal guns all the time. 117". January 5 at 10:31am psi Andy Dow I think that some people shouldn't own guns. This isn't the wild west. I applaud NH in lira that it respects the Constitution and limits regulation on owning guns. Conceal carry should be universal country wide under federal law. Buying a pistol should require a background check, which our state does already. I agree criminals will always find a way to get guns illegally. Hell they can make a zip gun from stuff at the local Home Depot. Anything that limits gun ownership rights violates the 2nd Amendment. Mentally ill people who are judged as incompetent and have been institutionalized shouldn't own a gun or certainly have concealed carry rights. I do feel certain conditions are treatable and people get sick sometimes. Mental illness is a big topic and has varying levels of severity. Schizophrenia it's a situation that would warrant having a lifetime ban on weapon ownership. Depression from like a family death, or suicide or a rape, something like that should not warrant a lifetime removal of gun ownership rights. People do get depressed and they can receive treatment and be better after. I served for the rights and every one. The second amendment is pretty clear. Shall not infringe not without a damn good reason. January 5 at 11:41am

Edward E Bouche Jr. Ityes #NHResident anuary 5 at 9:21am Garret Ean Of course people should be able to defend themselves, duh. Smart people already do, regardless of how good or bad the laws are. I am also NH inhabitant. 1 January 5 at 9:26am Kathy De Francesco ityesyesyes January 5 at 9:48am Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on 1-18 1542 64

CCNii The Live Free or Die Alliance Please note: we have heard from the sponsor of this bill, Rep. Brian LFDA Stone, who informs us that the bill is being amended to also guarantee the right to carry firearms while indoors on public university and college campuses. 43 - January 5 at 9 48am Hide 29 Replies

Jae Emes As it should be. Is it a right or not? Do we believe in "Live free or die" or not? 10 • January 5 at 9:51am L Jeffrey Smith I heard enough from the The Live Free or Die Alliance & NRA about gun rights. In" This is why I mail back the NRA's membership forms shredded. 3 January 5 at 9 52am • Matt Shibles As a former security guard who had two attempted suicides in a year, i think rep brian stone can kick rocks. This will go south fast. 3 • January 5 at 9:52am Patrick Donald Binder So, double 4s/es? 2 • January 5 at 9:54am Bruce Cory Excellent !!! a good person who can legally carry should have ZERO Restrictions on ma where they carry H The 2nd Amendment clearly say's the RIGHT of the People to keep (own) and Bear (Carry) Shall Not be Infringed Not Allowing firearms at public university and colleges is an ILLEGAL infringement H 7 • January 5 al 9 56am Lucy Pivonka Bruce Cory good idea Bruce, let's give every kid a gun. After all, there has never ever been a deadly mass shooting on a college campus, right? And everyone knows that college kids are the most mentally stable group of people around, especially the ones who need safe spaces because words hurt or they still have their mommies call the school when they don't like their grades. What could go wrong?? 2 • January 5 at 10:01 am •Jesse Garland Lucy is not smart dont be like lucy 6 • January 5 at 10 03am Joel Folliard Bruce Cory El No it doesn't actually 1 January 5 at 10 03am •Joel Folliard Jesse Garland

Why because someone disagrees with you? 2 • January 5 at 10:04am Richard LeFrance I don't think Jeffrey is even a NH resident. Pretty sure he lives in Malden Mass. 2 • January 5 at 10:04am Joseph Brown Matt Shibles That's what's said every time freedom is increased. Never happens. 2 • January 5 at 10 00am • Richard LeFrance Matt Shibles, you were a security guard on a college campus? I thought they had actual campus police. January 5 at 10 06arn Kerry Anne Garnick Oh for the love of God U January 5 at 10:17am k. Bob Robertson The prohibitionists cry that babies will die in the streets, and that never happens. Why do they continue to believe what is obviously false? 4 - January 5 at 10 20am in Joel Folliard Jeffrey Smith In• Well stated Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 65

January 5 at 10 20am Chris Hemmah Bob Robertson because they never learned to mind their own business and .4514- never got passed the infantile stage of needing to control everything. 1 • January 5 at 10 23am vi Cheryl Ann As it should be ! - January 5 at 10 29am ni Cheryl Ann Jeffrey Smith the NRA are law abiding gun owners who fight for our 2A rights ... we don't want anyone with us who isn't on board . We appreciate you weeding yourself out of the club... we only want those who want to fight for our rights on board . 3 • January 5 at 10:32am • Cheryl Ann Matt Shibles not at all ! These are our rights 1 • January 5 at 10 32am Connie Ramsdell Bruce Cory since some really nice guys have committed murder, I see your logic. Brucy wants his gun January 5 at 10 42am • Ellen Phillips Disgusting! January 5 at 11:05am FM Scott Gagnon itexcellent January 5 at 11 08am Robin Bruedle Cheryl Ann sorry I had to laugh. Trump is an nra member he's not a law abiding sa person 1 January 5 at 11:16am • Knicole Elizabeth I SO wish there was a response! Not just angry or laughing! January 5 at 11 32am Luke Sutton Jeffrey Smith is clearly a snowflake - January 5 at 12 35pm in Jesse Garland No Joel when you use stupid logic it speaks for itself lol - January 5 at 1 35pm Robert Tucker #yes again!! ltdoubleYes after being amended!!!! (Sunapee, NH) January 5 at 2:04pm Jard Allanson Thank you for the update! January 5 at 5 04pm Bill Flanagan B000 January 6 at 10 07am

Bob Campagna Yes 2 - January 5 at 9:50am Harvey Baumann Crazy!! anuary 5 at 9:53am Denise Noyes #no nh resident should be the school's decision. 1 • January 5 at 9:55am • Kate Jute First of all that is the weirdest answer I've ever seen it's illegal to have a gun anywhere near a school. Schools have no right to make a decision whether someone can carry a gun outside of school January 5 at 9 57am Dan Davis A private school, getting no funding from the government whatsoever, can certainly ban possession of fire arms. But town or state funded schools must abide by the Constitution. 3 • January 5 a110.03am Edged Darren Holmes Our fore fathers escorted their kids too school armed. Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 66

January 5 at 10:15am AiA i in Joel Folliard Darren Holmes

Please post sources that show your assertion is accurate.

I'll wait January 5 at 10 54am Vial Josh Hatchell Joel Folliard they used to have shoot for a class all over the USA used to have shot guns in the back windows of trucks parked at high schools 1 January 5 at 11:43am • Joseph Brown Joel Folliard Within my lifetime, we used to carry guns to school. Kids would go hunting on the way home. We're not even talking ancient history - we're talking things that happened within the past few /decades/. 10 hrs

'I Robert Akillian Well, when there is yet another campus shooting, when the cops and swat team show up, M I hope they don't shooting and kill the "innocent idiot" carrying his right to carry gun. 1 . January 5 at 9:58am Sofia Cunha-Vasconcelos Have any of you who carry weapons ever had occasion to use them? •January 5 at 9:58am Hide 45 Replies

Jesse Garland Thank god no M— January 5 at 10:04am • Dan Davis A completely irrelevant question. January 5 at 10:04am

▪ Sofia Cunha-Vasconcelos it occurs to me that if we live in a world where you need to carry a weapon to protect yourself... we're doing something very wrong as a society. 1 - January 5 at 10:05am • Sofia Cunha-Vasconcelos Dan Davis it's not irrelevant. If a weapon is necessary for your personal defense then surely someone has had to use theirs. 1 - January 5 at 10:06am Roy Thomas For me there was one time where having it prevented further issues. The sight of it a was enough to make the other individual realize the error of their ways. 1 , January 5 at 10:08am • Sofia Cunha-Vasconcelos Roy Thomas a mugging? January 5 at 10:09am Roy Thomas Nope a drunk threatening a woman with a weapon within reach. Bad things happen a in this world and always will which is why having the tools to defend yourself or others is important.

Personally I would likely just give up my wallet in a mugging as money isn't worth killing or being killed over. January 5 at 10 Hain -4V- Cindy Towle Sure,let's be stupid enough (like Texas) to allow them in bars also! a- January 5 at 10 13am n Roy Thomas Cindy Towle sia They are allowed in bars and guess what there haven't been any more problems here than in states that ban them. 1 , January Sat 10 26am • Brian J. Stone Have you ever heard of deterrence? January 5 at 10 41am Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 67

• Sofia Cunha-Vasconcelos Brian J. Stone yep, I have. Here's where Pm coming from: I've shot guns. I enjoy shooting guns. I find it a very zen activity, focusing on the target, and putting the projectile where I want it to go. But I have lived 36 years walking at night, going to bars and concerts in cities all over the country, and never EVER felt so threatened that I felt the need to carry a deadly, range weapon. I have felt intimidated by the body language of someone who was clearly not law enforcement who openly carried in my town. I also don't want someone who may or may not have good aim or be trained taking it upon themselves to defend anyone in my vicinity. We have police for that. January 5 at 10:50am • Buddy Brazil Use? Yes. Fire? No. Just the sight was enough to send the guy away.

And fyi, police are trained to save themselves first, even at everyone else's expense. Citizens are trained to use deadly force as an absolute, last option. That's why armed citizens have historically had far less "collateral damage" of bystanders than cops. January 5 at 10 58am Sofia Cunha-Vasconcelos Buddy Brazil there is no requirement that "citizens" aka civilians, be NM trained at all. January 5 at 11 10am Tim Navin Ever have to use the fire extinguisher in your kitchen? Sure hope not, but you still al have one don't you? 2 January 5 at 11:13am Robert Tucker Roy Thomas woah woah woah! Slow down with your facts there hotshot.

January 5 at 2 07pm ri Roy Thomas Sofia Cunha-Vasconcelos ••• After spending most of my adult life around the firearms industry and law enforcement I can say without question most officers can't shoot well and their training is sadly just liability management for the departments. Believing that someone is qualified or skilled based on profession is short sighted. January 5 at 2:22pm 54 Phillip Dyer Police aren't required to defend citizens in the US. They have a responsibility to provide security for the state but not individuals. The Courts have been clear on that. January 5 at 3 21prn Sofia Cunha-Vasconcelos Roy Thomas that doesn't change the fact that a civilian doesn't need ••• any training at all. All you are telling me is that there are more people running around with the capacity to accidentally shoot me and my loved ones while trying to "defend." January 5 at 6:39pm Sofia Cunha-Vasconcelos Tim Navin riiight. My fire extinguisher won't kill an innocent bystander. minm January 5 at 6 40pm n Roy Thomas So because you're afraid you think others shouldn't have the right to self defense? lam That makes zero sense though if you don't like guns there are states you can go to that restrict the 2nd Amendment, they have much higher crime rates but hey that's your choice. January 5 at 6 43pm IN Sofia Cunha-Vasconcelos Roy Thomas actually my point is the opposite: your fear of what ••• "might" happen in a statistically unlikely reality is potentially putting me and mine at risk. You're carrying around a deadly weapon that no one made sure you knew how and when to use before they gave it to you because you're afraid someone might one day try to attack you. Is your fear more valid than mine?? January 5 at 6 47pm Edited • Roy Thomas You realize that the statistics of your fear are even smaller by your own logic right? If your concern is someone missing and hitting out or yours when they need to defend their life then that would be an astronomically low risk. As for needing a gun I've already needed one so.... January 5 at 6 46prn n Roy Thomas Oh and for the record I don't carry because I fear anything. I carry because I have ••• the skill set and determination to protect myself and those I care about. Being prepared isn't Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 68

fearful its planning for potential problems. January 5 at 6:46pm Ma Sofia Cunha-Vasconcelos Roy Thomas actually statistics show that the presence of guns increase the likelihood of death by accidental firing, by suicide and by having your own weapon used on you, so genuinely, the risk to gun owners is probably higher than the risk to me. January 5 at 6:49pm n Roy Thomas Sofia Cunha-Vasconcelos 15444 The chances of dying in a car crash go up when you drive one that doesn't mean we stop driving. The chances of getting a divorce goes up by 100% when you get married so should people avoid that? Common sense says that anytime you introduce something the chance of something happens increases but that doesn't mean that it actually poses any realistic risk. As for suicide ask any first responder if you can prevent a suicide when a person decides to die and they'll tell you know the method doesn't matter. January 5 at 6 52pm Sofia Cunha-Vasconcelos Roy Thomas see... here's where it gets weird to me: the likelihood of so many other things happening are higher than the risk of being the victim of a violent crime in NH, and I wonder if people who carry a weapon are also prepared for those eventualities... January 5 at 6 52pm n Roy Thomas Additionally the statistics show that states like NH with nearly no gun control are "al safer than those with ridiculous restrictions. NH, ME and VT are in the top 5 safest states in the country all have Constitutional carry. January 5 at 6 54pm Sofia Cunha-Vasconcelos Roy Thomas they also have some of the lowest population densities in the country. Statistics show correlation, not causality. January 5 at 6 55pm n Roy Thomas Well I have a fire extinguisher, I carry medical supplies on my person and in my vehicle and I'm trained in first aid. So yes I choose to be prepared for many things. January 5 at 6:56pm al Sofia Cunha-Vasconcelos For example, statistically you are more likely to have your identity stolen then to be attacked. Do you have a subscription to an identity protection service? January 5 at 6:56pm Roy Thomas Ok so compare Huston to Chicago, similar population, similar density, similar racial diversity percentage and yet one you'll be safer in Afghanistan and the other is Huston. January 5 at 6 57pm n Roy Thomas Someone stealing my identity will be inconvenient it won't result in my death. I lidla monitor my credit accordingly. Big difference. January 5 at 6 58pm Mg Sofia Cunha-Vasconcelos Roy Thomas actually as I understand the statistics, sadly, there is a MR specific demographic that is at risk in Chicago. Also very specific geography to the deaths, AND it's being blamed on *an influx of guns.* January 5 at 7 00prn Roy Thomas Yeah and yet the states that they claim the guns are coming from don't have a gun problem. Lol go figure. January 5 at 7 Olpm Roy Thomas Gun control doesn't work and even the DOJ has acknowledged that with their statements regarding the failed assault weapons ban. January 5 at 7 02pm Sofia Cunha-Vasconcelos Roy Thomas https://vvww.google.com/.../did_gun_control_stop_mass,.. Did Gun Control Stop Mass Shootings in Australia? The Latest...

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January 5 at 7.04pm Ii Roy Thomas Oh and to be clear the demographic in Chicago that's at risk is in fact the criminal demographic. If you actually look at the stats UCR you'll find that the chances of being shot if you're not a criminal are astronomically small. January 5 at 7 04pm • Roy Thomas Except there have been mass shootings in Australia since and at much the same rate that they occurred before as they were exceedingly rare to begin with. What it did do was make rape, home invasions and other violent crimes go up. January 5 at 7 06pm Sofia Cunha-Vasconcelos Roy Thomas where are you getting that data? January 5 at 7 06prn re Roy Thomas Australia keeps their crime rates just like the United States does. Ours is the UCR hal and their is under the AIC. The media has agendas but you can look it up and see increases in the areas I indicated. January 5 at 7 09pm Roy Thomas Just like where the UCR showed violent crime increased during the Clinton Era assault weapons ban and decreased following its sunset. January 5 at 7:10pm rg Roy Thomas Disarming the public does nothing to make it safe and does everything to empower the government. 1 • January 5 at 7:10pm Sofia Cunha-Vasconcelos Roy Thomas See when you do a risk assessment you look at a combination of likelihood and impact. If either are high the over all attention that needs to be paid can be high. Ending up homeless or indeed chased by debt collectors (google what they've been doing to people with impunity lately) seems like it deserves much more attention then violent crime. This has been fun, but we're not actually addressing each others points, just sort of bouncing off them. Not really a discussion with any purpose, so I'm going to peace out. January 5 at 7 I1pm • Roy Thomas Yeah silly me for understanding that there is a difference between having something stolen and being killed. Lol 1 • January 5 at 7 12pm • Nate Lambert LOL. Slate says "probably" 15 his

Roland Six Yes. NH resident January 5 at 11 15am Cotten J. Smith Just some perspective here. There are approximately 138,000 schools in the U.S. according to the U.S. Dept of Education (K-12 and university). For most, there are either laws or policies prohibiting unauthorized civilians from carrying guns in or on the grounds. Each year there are approximately 50 shooting incidents; most are people known to their victims, such as relationship issues, and may involve suicide or homicide or, in a few cases, negligent discharges. That means that each year, 99.96% of schools have no shootings. Outside of the U.S., the rate is even lower. 1 January 5 at 11 40am Kay Reinold Schools and colleges student s no guns but they should have protection by someone 2 • January 5 at 12 47pm egg Richard Angell Right. Protection by someone with a gun. May as well be the ones who need the witim. protection. Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 70

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S Barbara W Jordan Yes M January 5 at 5:21pm Max Andrews Yes, If more responsible Gun owners carried there would be less of ANY chance of a Crazy person to go on a shooting spree this happens way to often. 2 - January 5 at 6:03pm • Christopher Slavit Technically the constitution covers us already... N January 5 at 7:19pm Julia Brisbane Yes, Constitutional right both state and Federal nuary 5 at 8:14pm Kayla Huesman Ayes from Spofford, NH January 5 at 8:46pm lo Pike ffno nuary 6 at 4:17am Kenny Valerio Yes from everywhere 1 - January 6 at 4:56am Heidi Sanderson Yes from Salem NH anuary 6 at 6:29am . Edited Pamela Ean YES! anuary 6 at 8:42arn Bonnie Getz NO!!! 1 • January 6 at 8:56am Wayne Robinson ((YES January 6 at 9:41am Steve Jette Hell yes January 6 at 10 57ain Nancy Kilker No 1 - January 6 at 11:04am M David Winchester No way 1 - January 6 at 2:59pm Lara Berry ttno NH resident 1 - January 6 al 6:31pin John Sylvester (tYes New Hampshire resident for over 20 years. YES....BUT(YOU NO VOTERS SHOULD READ): I am very stong for gun rights but I am even stronger for people who carry taking courses first! You can not buy a gun anf shoot 1 or 2 times a year and expect to efficiently and safely deal with a threat. Campus carry should be legal only to those who have passed a beginners introduction course and self defense course. Why? I bought my first handgun after me and my wife were asaulted coming home one new years night. Poliece were right arround the corner and did not even give chase. I spent 3 months just researching safety, laws, and disassembling it. A couple years later I was asked to do a photo shoot for a new training program that opened. It was their first class. Lasted for about 7 hrs! Now in this class they covered safety, laws (had a detective of 30 plus years there during class) cleaning, and even maintenance. I wish this was arround when I got my first handgun! One of the biggest things they brought up was if you do not plan on meeting a lethal threat with lethal force, a gun is not for you. And they went over non lethal equipment. Point is simply having a firearm is not protection. Its really a false sense of security. You HAVE TO GET RANGE TIME. If I dont shoot my rifle for over 2 months I go from shooting the x and 10 ring to hitting wide 10s to 8 or 9s. Its a perishable skill. If you just pick up a firarm after 2 years especially under extreme life threatening stress.... you are probably going to miss or forget somthing important like checking the area behind the threat. 2 January 6 at 9:29pm i Edited Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 71

Matt Wrightington llyes #yes #yes nh resident I want to keep the right to defend myself no matter where I am Yesterday at 4 50am Jenna Harrison Yes! The constitution is clear. Yesterday at 7 10am David-Anny Barnes I believe they should Yesterday at 7 34am David Riordan Better question: who is so insecure, in this lovely non-violent state, that bringing along an implement to kill another is what's on their mind when about to attend a state institution for higher learning? 1 Yesterday at 7:40am Joseph Brown This lovely non-violent state is the most pro-gun place on the planet. Hmmm... almost like the latter causes the former, maybe? 2 16 hrs In David Riordan Joseph Brown, I suppose, to the extent those insecure enough to always carry, will carry, we'll never know if nobody carrying is less safe, though it seems eerily logical it would. 1 hr IN John Reed Joseph Brown - still peddling that BS, I see. We are decidedly NOT the "most pro-gun state on the planet", especially when it comes to the "open carry" issue. Most of you scare the crap out of the hunters and marksmen that are the core of gun ownership here! 1 hr

t7 Robert L. Forsythe III Yes. An armed society is a polite society. 3`' Yesterday at 10:37am Citizen Voices® report of citizen testimony on HB 1542 72

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2018 SESSION 18-2099 04/03

HOUSE BILL 1542

AN ACT relative to carrying a pistol or revolver on university system and community college system property.

SPONSORS: Rep. Stone, Rock. 1

COMMITTEE: Criminal Justice and Public Safety

ANALYSIS

This bill allows any person who is not otherwise prohibited by state or federal law to carry a pistol or revolver on the exterior grounds of any university system of New Hampshire and community college system of New Hampshire property.

Explanation: Matter added to current law appears in bold italics. Matter removed from current law appears [in-lasaelset-s-ancl-strmek-tihr-ought] Matter which is either (a) all new or (b) repealed and reenacted appears in regular type.

HE 1542 - AS INTRODUCED 18-2099 04/03

STATE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE

In the Year of Our Lord Two Thousand Eighteen

AN ACT relative to carrying a pistol or revolver on university system and community college system property.

Be it Enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives in General Court convened:

1 1 New Section; State College and University System; Carrying a Pistol or Revolver. Amend 2 RSA 187-A by inserting after section 16-b the following new section: 3 187-A:16-c Carrying a Pistol or Revolver on University System Property. Any person not 4 otherwise prohibited by New Hampshire or federal law from possessing a firearm may carry a pistol 5 or revolver on his or her person while on the exterior grounds of any university system of New 6 Hampshire institution property. Nothing in this section shall be construed to grant the university 7 system of New Hampshire any additional authority to regulate firearms on its property beyond 8 what is contained in state or federal statute. 9 2 New Section; Community College System of New Hampshire; Carrying a Pistol or Revolver. 10 Amend RSA 188-F by inserting after section 21-a the following new section: 11 188-F:21-b Carrying a Pistol or Revolver on Community College System Property. Any person 12 not otherwise prohibited by New Hampshire or federal law from possessing a firearm may carry a 13 pistol or revolver on his or her person while on the exterior grounds of any community college 14 system of New Hampshire property. Nothing in this section shall be construed to grant the 15 community college system of New Hampshire any additional authority to regulate firearms on its 16 property beyond what is contained in state or federal statute. 17 3 Effective Date. This act shall take effect 180 days after its passage.