Hour Minute Second Name Message Is Harry's Lap TImer (Grand Prrix Edition) a reliable data collection tool? Can I actually use the data off it 0 16 34 Rob to help improve my driving as a amatuer? 0 16 59 Daniel VBOX 0 17 11 Bill got it 0 17 20 Jim Mike McM, we use Race Technology 0 17 25 Eric Can you pkic more than one? 0 17 29 Tim Still using traqmate 0 17 30 RICKY video and sound still work fine 0 17 31 tomtom traqmate 0 17 36 David aim! 0 17 37 Michael Many of us use several. I tend to use what my client has, or what the team has. 0 17 39 James AIM as well 0 17 40 Arnie traqmate 0 17 42 Cherie AIM Solo - I have an E30, so have Speed, Long/Lat traces 0 17 45 Danna Van Noy Track Addict 0 17 47 Cam Abernethy traqmate 0 17 47 Tim SoloStorm, coming from Track Addict 0 17 50 Dave AIM-SOLO DL 0 17 51 Les CDS 0 17 52 Matthew Old Traqmate 0 17 54 Luther Lloyd III I use RaceCapture, because I can't buy MoTec yet 0 17 56 Brian AiM 0 17 59 Eric MoTeC Aim Race-T, TraQ-m 0 18 0 Brad Aim/Motec/Cosworth 0 18 0 RICKY SoloStorm for autocross 0 18 8 Rob May want to offer option to select multiple 0 18 10 Peter Owen Motec 0 18 10 Karl Re-connect fixed it 0 18 12 Andrew MoTec + APEX Pro ! @Luther Lloyd, what's up! 0 18 13 Gordon AIM 0 18 19 John Traqmate 0 18 33 Angus AiM 0 18 48 Luther Lloyd III Sup @Andrew Rains 0 18 49 bill corvette PDR-Cosworth Toolbox 0 18 50 JD Garmin VIRB Action Camera with GPS 0 19 4 Mike Traqmate, Harry's 0 19 47 edward Can not get this thing at all. Video file not found 0 20 15 Michael LRP! 0 20 31 robin everything is behind and still no audio 0 20 36 Larry Lime Rock 0 20 43 David Vasecka Fast times at LRP 0 20 48 Guangming Looks like left foot braking? 0 20 51 Bill audio fine Does the AiM Solo with datalogging have throttle position, brake pressure, steering angle and engine 0 20 52 Jason RPM available? 0 21 29 Matt The Solo DL provides info based on what the car share with it. 0 21 39 Eric Thats a smoking fast lap! 0 21 55 Roger Caddell Jason, Yes, the SoloDL model can connect to most ECU's and give you that data 0 22 34 Jason Roger: Thank you!! 0 22 42 robin Can everyone else hear what ross is saying. I have now audio 0 22 51 Shawn I can hear 0 22 56 Roger Caddell Yes Robin, it is working well 0 23 1 Jon I can hear him fine 0 23 4 Chris Dilluvio sound is great How about starting with narrowing down relevant laps? i.e. taking the longer laps, realizing traffic, out 0 23 32 Michael lap, in lap, etc. were a contributing factor to excluding them. Just a reminder: If you need a "crowd-sourced" answer to your question OR if you need clarification on something Ross is saying, please type in the Chat mode. If you want Ross to answer your question in the Q & A session, please type it in the "Ask a Question" mode. (Accessible by clicking on the 3 dots next to 0 23 36 Robin the word chat in the bottom right hand corner. 0 23 53 Robin Thank you! 0 25 30 Michael where is the chat stream? If you write a message here, that's the Chat stream. When you click on "Ask a Question" your question 0 27 0 Robin will be highlighted for me to make a note of. Clear as mud? :-) 0 27 1 Matt I do the same thing. I look straight to the throttle/brake change then to the trailbrake portion Also, you can make the slide larger by clicking on the red tab to the left of the Chat stream. You can get 0 29 51 Robin back to Chat by clicking it again. 0 30 21 Jason mind.blown.gif Michael: Narrowing down laps. Suppose you have 10 laps in a session. Look for the few laps that are fastest. If you display speed vs. distance on those few laps, you will get a general picture of what a lap 0 30 36 Mark should look like. Traffic, in/out laps will have very distinct differences. 0 31 28 Michael Thanks, Mark. I'm aware. =-) I was hoping Ross would address it to the audience. 0 32 5 Robin Michael, do you want Ross to clarify this now, or can it wait until the Q & A? You'd want to validate the trail-brake speed ebb with other measures, for sure. gSum, lat G, to make sure 0 32 13 Peter K you're not just coasting under the available grip. 0 32 30 Michael It's too late to be helpful now. In the Q&A at the end will be better. 0 32 50 Robin Okay, thanks! 0 33 30 Peter K Great point 0 34 0 Jason In this example, the driver is performing the throttle blip poorly? 0 34 1 kasra sooo basically how I brake 0 34 38 Matt Jason - you are correct. 0 36 6 Cary rev limiter? 0 36 17 kasra soooo basically how i approach a brake point I wonder if this could be a confidence issue for the turn and they are coasting right before the braking 0 36 46 Jason zone. 0 36 55 Andrew Bingo 0 36 59 Jason driver, not turn. 0 37 0 Brent Takeaway so far - first use data to show bad habits or good habits? 0 37 12 kasra @brent I'd have to agree 0 37 24 kasra this is a good way to find stuff you were doing that you didn't know you were doing 0 37 54 Michael Robin, I think that comment covers what I was mentioning. 0 38 3 Brent I know I'm pretty inconsistent. Data box is going to show it 0 38 42 Peter K kasra, bingo! 0 39 14 kasra "slow" 0 39 16 Brent @kasra - good point. I have no idea what I do poorly 0 39 40 Chris Dilluvio I can provide plenty of sloppy footwork traces Ross if you ever need some 0 39 40 Brent Specifically that is 0 39 41 kasra I have to see if my AIM Solo - NON DL has all this redaout 0 39 44 kasra readout 0 39 46 Robin Okay, got it, Michael! 0 39 53 Peter K kasra, it does 0 40 13 kasra @peter K glad to hear it. I should have ponied up for the DL so I could have TPS and Brakes 0 40 21 Arnie Isthat real? could it be a data issue? 0 40 43 Richard Basford data doesnt lie :P 0 41 19 daniel where do I download this software? Could that much of a difference, 10 mph, be a data error? GPS was correlating the different signals 0 41 28 Michael incorrectly? 0 41 43 Robin Daniel, there will be resource links at the end. 0 41 43 Jim How many laps should be overlaid Sometimes a fast sector happen by accident, or fluke. And that's the one really worth looking into and 0 41 51 Guangming figure out. 0 41 53 Peter K daniel, your software will do all this. 0 41 55 daniel software = track attack... 0 42 10 Gama trackattack.io 0 42 29 daniel thanks 0 42 31 Peter K Jim, maximum of three, usually 0 44 15 Peter K Thanks, Gama If you don't have throttle position, you can use the speed trace to see where it increases then decreases 0 44 45 Matt to see the throttle lift on the downhill example 0 44 50 Roy Hey all, Sorry Im late. I was shoveling snow off the drive way 0 44 51 Pucky Loucks could #3 also show that they turned in too early? 0 44 58 Tom some newer street cars ca't brake hard like that initially . ABS ice mode. 0 45 42 Peter K Hey, Roy! 0 46 2 kasra @Matt trying to understand what you're saying 0 46 10 kasra re: SPeed trace vs tps Jim: When looking for "general consistency" I may use a shit ton of laps. But no real analysis can happen 0 46 27 Mark there. As Peter K says, about 3 is a good number to avoid clutter. if the tps increases, so does speed. Then when the person lifted, speed decreases. If you don't have tps, 0 46 58 Matt you can look at the speed trace to see what the person is doing with the throttle 0 47 11 Kevin rain lap? 0 47 35 Eric traffic, fluids on track, tires going away... 0 47 38 John D I keep hoping AIM will make it easy to sync SmartyCam video and data 0 47 49 kasra yesss!!! 0 47 52 kasra thunderhill baby! 0 48 2 kasra @matt thank you! 0 48 8 Eric lat g will show low grip like junk on track or tires going away 0 48 8 Peter K Someday, John D I run old Chasecam, which is Auto On when driving. Video quality is now inferior to GoPro, but still great 0 48 12 Matthew for Auto On, Auto Record. 0 48 23 Karl *2 on vidio overlay with data on AIM 0 48 28 Dave and compatible with MAC (AIM) Webinar Tech Tip - Using two screens, open the webinar in two browser tabs. One full size video with chat minimised, one smaller with chat window open - mute sound in second tab. Better screen resolution 0 49 0 Brent on the slides, but still have chat. 0 49 13 Gama @john - in Track Attack, you can sync video from any camera source 0 49 22 Roy Hey Peter K 0 49 30 Peter K Hay, Roy 0 50 50 kasra not at all how I do that corner lol. this would have been helpful at nationals! 0 51 51 Kevin yes 0 51 55 Ryan Rich YES! 0 52 0 kasra aazing What are the top 3 things you recommend looking for in a data export file after coming off track? As an instructor, my time to interpret data immediately getting off track is limited on many weekends. Most of the time, I have to study the data at night, but would prefer to have a fresh approach every session from 0 52 21 Shane what I've learned from data. 0 52 29 Bill awesome info. When comparing driver’s lap times, sometimes traces seem to spread out away from each other toward the end of a lap, as if one car is driving more distance than the other. Is there a way to compare 0 52 37 Hank distances traveled between 2 different cars on the same lap? 0 53 19 Jason @Shane, that is interesting. I wonder about that too 0 53 54 Peter K Gama, did you develop this app 0 54 12 Eric Make sure you are using the distance not time measurement 0 54 12 Gama Yes - well, our team did. :) 0 54 19 Matthew Hank you can often set the X axis as Distance vs time, that will put them on the same scale. 0 54 32 Peter K Gama, of course. Love to talk to you sometime. Great stuff! 0 54 47 Gama Absolutely! Assuming there is a little difference in laps how would you approach the biggest change part of 0 54 49 gil improvement the lap? 0 54 54 Ian Korf Gama, just downloaded it and tried to upload an endurance race. Only sees one driver session 0 55 51 Gama @ian - make can you email me at [email protected]? 0 56 32 Peter K Sphincter sensor! 0 56 33 Brent Overteer? 0 56 43 Eric Pucker Factor 0 56 50 Shane All God's children are early apexers 0 56 55 Shane Except us ;-) 0 57 28 Peter K Shane, hahahaha! 0 57 39 Andrew The best sensor there is @Peter K: The Sphincter Sensor! 0 58 32 Eric Andrew, Peter, can be recalibrated with experieince 0 58 47 Zack ew 0 59 1 Andrew hahaha 0 59 15 Guangming So if the driver brake less (like blue) but early (like red), he would not run out of room? 1 1 20 Peter K You SHOULD brag! 1 1 20 Julian Those "time lost" graphs... gaining time "in" the corner, losing it immediately afterwards! 1 1 43 Peter K Yep, Delta-t or variance is the best 1 2 14 kasra Ross this is great 1 2 18 kasra so glad i took this course 1 2 45 Robin Guangming, I'll ask Ross to refer to the appropriate slide in the Q & A, as he's moved on. :-) 1 2 49 Peter K Doesn't really cost them time, though 1 2 59 Guangming Robin, thanks! 1 3 6 Ian Korf Shows Yeah, neat how it doesn't cost time 1 3 27 Michael Commitment requires patience! 1 3 30 kasra mind blown 1 3 34 Michael Patience, Grasshopper. in the corner n, but you have to look at the time gap at the end of the following straight - its usually slight, 1 3 45 Eric but almost always there. 1 4 59 Andrew turn 5 rewards patience for sure! 1 5 13 Peter K Add gSum and you can see if you're using all the tire during the null time between throttle and brake. 1 5 13 Eric agreed. low grip, track falls away. 1 5 50 Peter K Visualization! 1 5 59 Brent Peter K - gSum = full area of the traction circle? 1 5 59 Michael Without comparative data, how could you make the same notes from single source> 1 6 24 Guangming Brent, g-sum is linear representation of the friction circle 1 6 39 Brent got it! 1 7 22 Eric looks slow through T10/fast left Great point peter, add in G-sum and you know a lot more. Doesnt really help to be patient if the tire's 1 7 22 Andrew not at the limit Brent, Guanging nailed it. the numerical value of how far out from the center axis the friction circle ball is, 1 7 35 Peter K over the distance of a lap. For reference - I'm a club racer with one season of race behind me. Reading a bit beyond my level here, 1 7 52 Brent but keeping up so far. 1 8 20 Peter K Listen to Ross, not us! < grin> 1 8 26 Brent lol 1 9 44 Eric now T10 looks better! 1 9 51 Eric and T1 1 10 13 Andrew Gotta run, this was great Ross! Thanks! 1 10 30 Peter K Much better into T6 1 10 59 Peter K And into t11 1 11 6 Brent Key word - awareness. I can see data forcing me to be much more intentional 1 11 6 Julian Holy crap, picked up over 3 seconds? 1 11 16 Peter K Almost 3.5 1 11 38 Eric look at the setp ups in the time gap, a little bit in each corner adds up to a lot over a whole lap. 1 11 46 Richard Basford basically told him to nut up? :P 1 12 5 Jason @Brent, my thoughts exactly. I do get the feeling this will make drivers more aware. 1 12 23 Bill can you see the % on gas 1 12 49 Peter K Bbill, that's a calcualted value. Some systems can do this, some cannot. 1 13 12 Bill solodl 1 13 13 gil This is GOLD! when will the advance webinar will be?

@ Jason - data systems just record what the driver did. Many times (almost all?) our memory under the 1 13 14 Matt stress of driving is not correct. Just seeing what you really did is often enough to make someone fix things 1 13 37 Peter K Yes, Bill. You can do that. 1 13 39 Matt @ Bill - you can do it with a math channel 1 13 48 Brent @Matt - data doesn't lie, doesn;t forget 1 13 53 Eric V This. Drivers often think they were flat. data shows otherwise. 1 14 2 Peter K Roger Caddell LearnFast seminars near you! 1 14 24 Bill pegasus but conflict with nasa races 1 14 30 Peter K Eric, data is a tool, not a tattletale... 1 14 41 Mark Bill: There may be a Roger Caddell video explaining how to do a % full throttle calculation. 1 14 41 Michael Question for Q&A - What are some telltale signs of a car/setup problem instead of a driver problem? 1 15 6 Bill great, talked to roger at pri 1 15 15 Peter K Bill, Matt can help. Trailbrake.net 1 15 18 John Ewald Should target lateral and longitudinal g-force by the same? 1 15 25 Bill perfect 1 15 25 Eric right, get srivers to realize, oh, i wasnt actually flat. ok, next time i will be! 1 15 40 Guangming Michael, if you have steering angle, there is a way to create math channel for oversteer/understeer. 1 16 26 Ian Korf I put a heel stop in my car 1 16 43 Matt I've seen similar from seat/pedal box flex causing the driver to lose full throttle! 1 17 25 Peter K Great job, Ross! Is there anything like this online webinar for Aim Solo lap timers w/dl? Maybe like a more advanced or 1 17 42 Jason just specific to that device? For Q and A - Driver gets first data system. Driver knows he lacks consistancy. What should happen first - 1 17 51 Brent comparing laps, using data to find inconsistancies, or other? 1 18 11 Jeff Mckague Process really helps 1 18 20 Peter K Jason, those resources will be on a slide at the end. 1 18 28 Jason Thanks Peter 1 18 43 Eric For Q&A...at what point is TMI/Info overload counterproductive for drivers? Jason, email me at [email protected] and I can point you to the AiM Sports YouTube page, some 1 18 58 Roger Caddell videos there that will answer your question 1 19 8 Ian Korf https://www.youtube.com/user/aimdata Eric - I watch for body language. When a driver starts turning away from the screen, folding arms, looking 1 19 33 Michael away often, etc. Awesome Roger, thank you. I will do that. Thank you Ian, another link for me to check out and hyper 1 20 12 Jason focus on! @Eric I try and focus on the three biggest things on track for time gain and then the rest gets called "clean 1 20 14 James Colborn up' 1 20 15 Jim assuming very consistent lap times and traces best place to find time, low speed or high speed corners 1 20 21 James Colborn Avoids overload. 1 20 57 Bill james and aim videos are awesome 1 21 21 James Colborn Thanks! 1 21 24 Guangming What Bill said! 1 21 24 Peter K Roger will be at my facility at VIR this weekend and May 5-6 does the value for lateral g or longitudinal g value change for different types of corner? i think yes so how 1 21 28 mahaveer can we compare? 1 21 44 Peter K 1993 1 21 47 Bill what are the major differances between track attack and Aim Studio 1 21 51 Ian Korf haahahaha 1 22 2 Zack +1 recomendation for Colborn videos 1 22 4 Eric Making Sense is Great! 1 22 14 Michael Can you compare sim data and real life data with Track Attack? 1 22 30 Ian Korf Michael, what sim are you using? 1 22 35 Frank Colborn, you are awesome - a data geek and excellent communicator. Keep it up. 1 22 59 Guangming Michael, iRacing data can be converted to MoTec. Maybe then use Track Attack? For Q&A, What G load differential should there be between longitudnal and latitudnal? Braking vs left vs 1 23 3 Adam right. Should braking be higher or lower than lateral loading? 1 23 5 John D I have a couple screens in AIM I review quickly after each session. 1 23 13 Ian Korf Assetto Corsa exports to AiM 1 23 26 John D One is to check on the driver performance the other is to check on vehicle health 1 23 28 Michael Ian - iRacing, Project Cars 2, rFactor, etc. 1 23 33 Bill sign me up 1 23 33 Eric oddball question - does doing cross crawls before a data analysis session help retention? 1 23 36 John Does predictive lap feedback have value. 1 23 50 Ian Korf The iRacing exporter is called "mu" 1 23 55 James Colborn @John, predictive does in the car. I find that the theoretical fast lap is much faster and it appears to be because the AIM software 1 24 3 Hank doesn’t always choose the same starting or ending point for a corner. Can you speak to that issue? 1 24 8 John Ewald Adam asks the question properly. Use his! 1 24 11 Bill lets see Robin! 1 24 14 John D you mentioned a heel stop for braking. any images of that? 1 24 39 Matt @hank - you have to make sure you disable in and out laps. The segment areas do not change 1 24 42 Anton van Deth Awesome - thank you! 1 25 2 Peter K John, huge value. But have a prime and option approach that you're trying to evaluate. The more consistent you are, the more benefit you get from predictive time by trying something slight 1 26 8 Guangming different and learn effect (faster/slower) immediately. Hi Ross, Can you talk about where to start analyzing complex corners (180 degrees +) or compromise corners where the line matters and the highest average speed is not necessarily the fastest route through 1 26 35 Tim the corner? Thanks Tim @Hank. My recommendation for theoretical is to build your own segments, dividing on a straight only and never go more then 5 or so segments. Makes it easier understand exactly where you can find 1 26 47 James Colborn improvment. I have found that through many years of crunching data that in a lower powered formula car there are situations where coasting is more beneficial then braking which goes against what most of us were 1 27 51 Scott originally taught. Your thoughts? 1 27 53 Peter K To add to what James says, make sure the segments DO NOT start in or near a brake zone. 1 27 54 Pucky Loucks this is so cool 1 28 23 Ian Korf Scott, shh 1 28 59 Scott Your thoughts on predictive lap data while driving? Scott - just change your thought on brake to speed adjustment. Then a lift and/or coast is a speed 1 29 2 Matt adjustment 1 29 2 Peter K Thank you, Ross! 1 29 4 Guangming Scott, that's what aliens on iRacing Skip Barber Formula 2000 says, too. 1 29 39 Zack I bet Robin is back there thinking "you better pick up those cards whene we're done" 1 29 48 edward what happened? Just lost the whole video feed. 1 29 54 Matthew Tachometer can generally take place for Throttle input. 1 29 56 Karl What about RPM vrs Speed? I use RPM, not speed most of the time 1 30 22 Cary @tim -- often the fastest way around is the minimum distance travelled. @Scott, it's useful for many reasons. If you try something different (line etc.) you can see if it improves or doesn't. If you are qualifying and you've bombed a lap, you can cool down your tires and have another go 1 30 34 James Colborn the next lap around (vs. chasing a lap time you'll never get). So many great applications. 1 30 39 Pucky Loucks can you give us an example of how to find out when a driver could brake later? To determine if light braking/coast vs heavy braking, you need to look at the area under the curve; ie 1 30 48 Eldon Zacek distance traveled vs time taken. You said something about looking for "light and long' braking" I've not heard braking described as light 1 30 52 Cherie and long before this. Please clarify light and long vs the usual hard initial brake followed by trail braking. 1 30 55 Michael HLT is good when used with an external GPS. 1Hz isn't good enough. 1 31 26 Tim Thanks Cary. I get that. Just wondering how to narrow down the fastest line for any given car. I have seen speed differences, mainly in the corners, when comparing GPS speed to wheel speed. Why is 1 32 35 Scott this? 1 32 51 Guangming Pucky, g-sum! 1 33 8 Tim Comparing Delta-T for the segment and the the next for exit speed 1 33 11 Peter K Hahaha 1 33 13 Ian Korf Ross is funny 1 33 49 Roger Caddell 3 to 4 laps max is best for me to see the detail I want @Scott - tire growth. As you go faster, the tires roll out increases and will show a difference to gps. You 1 33 55 Matt can also have slip on the tire which will create a difference to the GPS speed @scott, you have two things that can be happening. Tire speeds will changed because rolling diameter is changing due to compression of the time. GPS will change because it is being computed based on vector 1 34 12 Eldon Zacek direction. @Scott, good question for the engineers. For me, I like to think about the fact the car might be moving faster than the wheels. For example, if you brake on ice, the wheels lock but you'd still be moving. GPS 1 34 37 James Colborn would register the speed in movement, wheel speed would be far less. 1 35 18 Monte Could you repeat what software you used tonight to read the data? 1 35 33 James Colborn Track Attack. 1 35 41 Ian Korf https://trackattack.io/downloads 1 35 44 Scott Matt, butthe speed is similar down the straights so why would it vary in the corners Lot of good conversation in the chat tonight as well as the actual webinar. Will the chat log be made 1 35 53 Julian available as well? Scott - there's also a difficulty determining speed at a changing angle in a Doppler system like GPS. The 1 36 7 Michael technical name escapes me at the moment. 1 36 11 Roger Caddell Feedback from the driver also helps focus on where to look beyond a normal process @scott, could be slip, diff action, inside tire versus outside, and still could be a change in roll out after the 1 36 38 Matt tire compresses. I would need more info to figure it all out 1 36 41 Ian Korf chat is half the reason to tune in to these webinars, good questions are as important as good answers 1 37 6 Alan At what stage in driver development do you recommend using data? @Scott -- how is the wheel speed measured. Front/rear/inside/outside of corner. Could be a difference 1 37 14 Cary in distance compared to GPS Thanks Ross i have got a lot from this. I am at Phillip Island (Australia) tomorrow and plan to pay greater 1 37 15 Peter Owen attention to the brake and throttle traces. 1 37 20 Robin Ian, good point! 1 37 32 Tim Thanks Ross and Robin, as well as your chat helpers: Peter K, Ian, James C, and Roger! 1 37 40 Roger Caddell Great Peter Owen... have fun! 1 37 40 James Colborn @Alan, immediately. 1 37 46 Robin Peter, say hello to the penguins for us! 1 37 54 Matthew Can you quickly review the U vs V shape in corners? 1 38 3 Matt In AiM you can get lap distance in the channel report quickly 1 38 9 Cary The penguins say hello to the tourests :-) 1 38 42 Peter Owen 100deg tomorrow if they are smart they will stay in the watter @Alan, when you start out, you find yourself going faster (or slower) for reasons unknown. Seeing speed, 1 38 52 James Colborn your inputs, etc. will help you figure out what you might have done differently. Then repeat. 1 38 52 Matthew Can you quickly review the U vs V Shape in corners? 1 39 6 Robin True that, Cary! 1 39 42 Peter K Exit of West Bend 1 40 36 Guangming Thanks, Ross! 1 41 4 Michael This question was specific to the example he was showing. 1 41 29 Chuck Great !!! well done, thanks. 1 41 40 Bill Micheal, I have found that most if asked with share data if you share 1 41 50 Michael I don't recall specifically, but it was right at the beginning of the section on comparative data. 1 41 55 Bill will share Ross - Thanks for all of the work you put in to this webinar. The variety in the examples, from so many 1 43 19 Tim different tracks and cars shows us that you can learn from the data in every case. 1 44 43 kasra is the q and A part of what we get a link to after this webinar ends? Question for the group - for your first budget data system in a dedicated club level race car, what system 1 44 52 Brent and why? email to oconnor.brent@gmail.com if you like 1 45 17 Ian Korf Brent, I think everyone wants to know this! 1 45 20 Scott AIM Solo 1 45 25 Larry Brent I use AIM SOLO 1 45 30 James Colborn Brent, I don't mind saying in public. An AiM Solo. 1 45 36 Robin Kasra, I'll check to see if we can include the Q & A. 1 45 40 Eric AiM Solo is tough to beat. 1 45 44 Bill solo dl Brent, in the days pre Time Attack, you'd won't to use a system that have the most users so that you can 1 46 13 Guangming share and compare data. 1 46 14 Ian Korf Brent, what's the car? 1 46 20 Michael will the chat transcript be available? Almost all of the hardware is the same. The best approach is to evaluate the software. The easier it is to 1 46 21 Eldon Zacek use, the more likely you are going to use it. 1 46 22 tomtom I've been using traqmate for 9 yrs .. harder to setup and share data , but works for me 1 46 25 kasra @robin thank you 1 46 30 Peter K The new Solo 2 and Solo 2 DL will be out shortly. 1 46 31 Guangming 'want', I mean. 1 47 1 tomtom Definately it is the software and ease of use that is the key 1 47 1 Peter K Eldon is correct. They all measure similar things with similar accuracy Aim is great because soooo moany people use it, lots of reference laps to be had via sharing. 1 47 9 Eric TraqMate...arent they out of business? Brent, I would recommend using the same system the majority of your friends have. Then you have local 1 47 17 Matthew knowledge/tech support. 1 47 19 Brent @Ian Korf - Pro Challenge motorcycle powered 3/4 tube frame. Normally a circle track pavement car 1 47 23 Peter K Traqmate ceased production in 2014 Kasra, this part where Ross is speaking is included. Did you want to know if a transcript of the Chat stream 1 47 28 Robin will be included? VBOX Sport, AiM Solo, both great. I like the VBOX a little better, but it's personal choice at that point. 1 47 54 Michael After that, MoTeC all the way. 1 47 56 tomtom stopped production but do maintain support. and pretty good at that 1 48 15 Julian Robin, a log of the chat would be incredibly valuable @Matthew... great point. Track Attack helps with seeing all data but my recommendation to all is to approach data with a friend or friends. 2-3 at the track with a Solo. A WiFi hotspot to watch reference 1 48 17 James Colborn videos and you'll all start seeing things and improving. 1 48 37 Robin Julian, I'll see what can be done. :-) 1 48 46 Julian Thanks Robin :) 1 48 48 Matt I completely agree with James! Wifi hotspot for video share is terrific to help people A fair number of people who find AiM a steep learning curve enjoy and find ease of use benefits in VBOX 1 49 0 Peter K Video. 1 49 29 MIKE I have a 4 year old traqmate, what its worth used?..Traqdash is included I felt like Traqmate software was stuck in Windows95. AiM software looks like Windows 2000. Track 1 49 41 Ian Korf Attack looks a bit more modern. MoTec is quite nice but pricey James, Joe Hullett was the one who turned me on to a central media server for multiple drivers. good 1 49 44 Peter K stuff The secret to AIM is to take a few webinars and then use the software a lot. Then it becomes muscle 1 50 23 Cary memory. The last eliteration of Traqmate software is freindly, but sharing is a challange with so many AIM units in 1 50 48 tomtom texas 1 51 19 kasra i think using aim without video will be hard to sync the turns with the info 1 51 21 Peter K tomtom, did you know that the AiM software will import Traqmate session files? 1 51 24 Tim Peter K - What do you use a central media server for? Expensive? 1 51 27 kasra i had no idea aim was so powerful though. 1 51 28 John D Also work on corners leading into straights - the faster you exit the faster you can be on the straight 1 51 42 tomtom Peter K I did not know cooolll 1 52 1 Peter K I liked Traqmate a lot. Sold nearly a thousand over ten years. 1 52 27 Peter K But time has moved on... @Tim - you can do it with a simple router that has a memory card input or USB input. It's great to put the videos on, let people log into it, then grab the videos everyone put on. Let's you share videos through a 1 52 31 Matt bunch of people very easily 1 52 47 tomtom Doing a Ecotec miata and will be leaving traqmate for a AIM this spring 1 52 49 Ian Korf It's called "mu" 1 52 50 Tim Having trouble importing traqmate data into trackattack? Am I missing something? 1 52 50 Guangming Mu 1 52 52 Michael It's called mu. 1 53 0 Peter K Yes it can 1 53 1 Tim asstto corsa goes into AIM as well 1 53 23 Ian Korf I use Aim more for Assetto Corsa than real life! 1 53 28 Cary Kinoveo is a nice piece of software for measuring competitor videos 1 53 42 gil To what software Assetto Corsa goes into? 1 53 53 Tim AIM RS2 1 53 59 Guangming Also depends on whether you have ABS ;) 1 54 0 Peter K JAiM RSA 1 54 1 tomtom Thanks yall...Ross great clarity and ballance 1 54 7 gil Only Aim RS2? 1 54 28 kasra hahah Cross Crawls! 1 54 34 Peter K Race Studio Analysis is the software AIM uses. Assetto Corsa can import AiM data Does the lateral and longitudinal graphs change for different corner example slow, fast? Light , heavy 1 54 34 mahaveer braking. I think yes, so how do we know which figure is the limit? Have very early Racepack G2X with dash. Works great, lost memory stick the other day. Just ordered 1 54 47 Matthew new memory card while on this webinar. 1 55 0 Tim No, Assetto Corsa goes to Motec as well with a 3rd party app. 1 55 10 Roger Caddell James had a great answer to that earlier in the chat 1 55 32 gil @Tim, Can you share the link to the 3rd party app? 1 55 40 Guangming Yes, James said you should recreate the segment to be less, and starts before brake point. 1 55 53 Peter K Sorry, AiM RSA can import NetKar Pro and AC files. 1 56 15 James Colborn https://youtu.be/a4afWdJf3g4 1 56 44 James Colborn Shameless (I know) but easier to show than to type. This video shows breaking into segments. 1 56 50 Tim @gil http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/acti-assetto-corsa-telemetry-interface.3948/ 1 57 3 Peter K ACTI RaceDepartment can export AC files to i2 1 57 11 Matt Great video James! 1 57 13 gil @Tom, Thanks a lot. 1 57 17 Peter K Thanks, James 1 57 17 Pucky Loucks rolling lap seems to be better, I think. e.g. turn 5 back to turn 5 1 57 49 kasra I have to run. Robin please do make this Q/A available in the link if you can! so mmuch good info 1 57 57 kasra thhank you Ross!!!! 1 58 12 Peter K Pucky, so few drivers do their BEST individual corners all in one lap, or in a rolling lap... 1 58 14 Arnie theoretical fast laps can be very dependent on how the segments are laid out. @Pucky. If you get it wright, you can see both rolling and theoretical. What gets really fun is taking more 1 58 20 James Colborn than one driver in the same car and seeing how fast the car could go by seeing who drove it best where. 1 58 27 Robin Kasra, I'll see what I can do! 1 58 34 James Colborn wright??? I really need to learn to spell! 1 58 49 Pucky Loucks good point Peter! 1 58 51 Michael eye no, wright 1 58 55 Michael LOL 1 58 56 Brent I'll be adding a heel stop real soon. Rough track and flat steel floor = bouncing feet on the pedal 1 58 56 Gary Chat transcript would very handy 1 59 13 John D Thanks, makes sense. I'll have to add a heel stop 1 59 38 Guangming @Pucky, smaller gap between best rolling lap and theoretical is a good goal to have. 2 0 50 kasra anyone else watch this and want to just quit your day job and become a race car driver for a living? 2 1 2 Peter K Hahaha! 2 1 10 Michael Kasra, I did that 5 years ago. 2 1 12 Peter K Thompson, CT 2 1 28 kasra @michael what series are you running in? 2 1 44 Jack Be careful telling a GTR, Turbo S or Z-06 driver to spend more time at full throttle! 2 1 48 Michael PWC TC and IMSA CTSC 2 2 4 kasra @michael did you find sponsorship? 2 2 13 kasra what team, I'll follow your racing! 2 2 34 Robert Pendleton got to go . Thanks Ross !! 2 2 55 Michael Kasra - The distillery I was going to put into PWC GT just went radio silent, so looking for a new contact. @Kasra - left the military 8 years ago, spend 20 week days and 5 weekends a summer at the track now. 2 3 6 Brent We are the only road course within a ten hour drive. Small and bumpy, but best place to be 2 3 32 Jack An Apex Pro will tell you when you can brake later. 2 3 35 kasra @brent @michael love it fellas. Living our dreams 2 3 36 Peter K Good explanation, Ross! 2 3 49 Peter K That is true, Jack 2 4 11 Ian Korf What is an Apex Pro? 2 4 18 Jason @Michael did you go to a racing school? 2 4 36 Peter K https://www.apextrackcoach.com/ 2 4 41 Michael Jason - no, but I've taught a few. =-) 2 5 0 Michael Started in karting when I was 8. 2 5 5 Peter K It's a terrific end-result measuring tool. 2 5 5 Mark Love my APEX Pro 2 5 7 Brad @Michael how many PWC races did you do last year :) 2 5 19 Peter K I've sold a lot of them, for sure. 2 5 26 Pucky Loucks so cool 2 5 28 Michael Brad - Sadly only one. Sponsor bailed. 2 5 51 Peter K Can't wait to see this, Ross! 2 6 3 Gary Thanks Ross, I have to go 2 6 13 Peter K Turn 10 VIR 2 6 19 Guangming Yes! 2 6 26 Cary Thanks Ross! Have to go. 2 6 32 Jeff Mckague 2 at Mosport 2 6 38 Peter K Yes! 2 6 42 Cherie Road Atlanta? 2 6 43 tomtom t16 cota 2 6 58 Peter K T16 should not require brake at COTA 2 7 7 Cherie Road Atlanta example please 2 7 14 Eric T2 at Le Circuit Mont Tremblant 2 7 22 Guangming Wherever the brake's primary goal is to turn the car. 2 7 25 kasra gotta run. GF is staring at me like "hurry up". Shiny side up everyone. 2 7 34 Willis What tracings would show understeer-oversteer ? 2 7 43 Jeff Mckague Eric Paradise? 2 7 44 Cherie I get it..... Thank you Peter - Getting the client to believe the Tower Turn doesn't need braking is a challenge. i often have to 2 7 50 Michael show them. =-) 2 7 53 Roger Caddell Wxcellent Ross! 2 7 54 Eric Yes, Le Circuit is IMHO 2 7 59 Pucky Loucks Robin I think we all should come over for dinner every night. :) 2 8 36 Peter K Hahaha, Michael! Do as I say... 2 8 43 Peter K And do! 2 8 49 Brad @pucky.. his reference to light and long? should be practiced in your car.. 2 8 50 Robin Pucky, that is a fabulous idea! 2 9 7 Robin Not sure you all would fit around the table, though. ;-) 2 9 26 Pucky Loucks Bradley is that you? 2 9 37 Brad yes Puck 2 9 40 Pucky Loucks lol 2 9 53 Brad and Michael is from Austin TX 2 10 0 Matthew Thanks, makes sense, was distracted at the time. 2 10 9 Peter K Aero... 2 10 24 Michael And I now know which Brad you are. LOL 2 10 39 Brad Family reunion 2 10 55 Les Excellent session. Thanks. Can't wait to put it to work.Race season is 4 months away. 2 11 8 Guangming Peter and Ross reads each other's mind LOL 2 11 12 Brad @Les .. you should move 2 11 25 Bill g force, what about the camber/banking of the corner? 2 11 54 Eric Bill, Paul Frere's book has a great section on the effect of banking agnle on cornering grip. 2 12 1 Peter K Guangming, we spend a lot of time together... ;) 2 12 9 Pucky Loucks Night all, my running partner won't wait any longer. this was awesome!!! 2 12 14 Bill eric, thanks Commercial. San Diego BMWCCA is hosting event at Buttonwillow in March. We will have a hands on 2 12 25 Matthew Data Class, with supplied Aim Solo and Video. 2 12 53 Peter K Center of pressure... 2 12 58 Will Kogan? 2 13 8 Matthew Will, Yes. 2 13 11 James Colborn Bill are you in the PNW? 2 13 33 Matthew Will, who? 2 13 45 Will Koneval 2 13 49 Bill nasa greatlakes spece46 2 13 52 mahaveer Thankyou Ross 2 14 7 Eric Matt Kogan? 2 14 19 James Colborn Ah. Hi Bill! Thought you were someone else. Don't know the tracks up there well. 2 14 25 Matthew Yes, Matthew Kogan, not sure who "Matt" on here is. 2 14 40 Michael Chat log has been both informative and hilarious. 2 14 41 Bill come out sometime and drive my car 2 14 42 Eric Hi from Boston 2 14 43 Matt Matt Romanowski (Trailbrake.net) 2 15 2 James Colborn Would love to one day. Be tons of fun. 2 15 17 Ian Korf THANKS ROSS AND ROBIN 2 15 25 Shawn Thanks for having us 2 15 26 Julian Awesome webinar, great job Ross and Robin! 2 15 27 Guangming Thanks, Ross! Great seminar! 2 15 29 Eric Matt K, do you have an Aim or Motec Sonoma lap I can review?