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EUROPEAN UNION COMMITTEE HOME AFFAIRS, HEALTH AND EDUCATION SUB- COMMITTEE Future Justice and Home Affairs Programme (2015-2019) Oral and Written Evidence Contents Association of Chief Police Officers, Europol and National Crime Agency—Oral evidence (QQ52-72) .................................................................................................................................................... 3 Professor Estella Baker, Mike Kennedy, Law Society of England and Wales—Oral evidence (QQ15-28) ................................................................................................................................................. 45 Bar Council—Written evidence ........................................................................................................... 73 British Red Cross, European Commission, Lincolnshire County Council—Oral evidence (QQ85-101) .............................................................................................................................................. 83 European Asylum Support Office—Written evidence .................................................................. 121 European Commission (DG Home Affairs)—Oral evidence (QQ102-112) ............................ 127 European Commission (DG Justice)—Oral evidence (QQ113-121) ......................................... 144 European Commission (DG Justice)—Supplementary written evidence .................................. 157 European Commission, British Red Cross, Lincolnshire County Council—Oral evidence (QQ85-101) ............................................................................................................................................ 175 European Parliament (Juan Fernando López Aguilar MEP, Judith Sargentini MEP)—Oral evidence (QQ145-151) ......................................................................................................................... 176 European Union Agency for Network and Information Security (ENISA), Professor Douwe Korff, London Metropolitan University and Charlie McMurdie—Oral evidence (QQ73-85) .................................................................................................................................................................... 193 Europol—Written evidence ................................................................................................................ 227 Europol, Association of Chief Police Officers, and National Crime Agency—Oral evidence (QQ52-72) ............................................................................................................................................... 235 Fair Trials International—Written evidence .................................................................................... 236 Professor Elspeth Guild, Professor Steve Peers, Professor John Spencer—Oral evidence (QQ1-14) ................................................................................................................................................. 238 Matthew Heenan—Written evidence ............................................................................................... 268 Immigration Law Practitioners’ Association—Written evidence ................................................ 269 Sajjad Karim MEP and Timothy Kirkhope MEP—Oral evidence (QQ136-144) ...................... 273 Association of Chief Police Officers, Europol and National Crime Agency—Oral evidence (QQ52-72) Mike Kennedy, Professor Estella Baker, Law Society of England and Wales—Oral evidence (QQ15-28) ............................................................................................................................................... 292 Timothy Kirkhope MEP and Sajjad Karim MEP—Oral evidence (QQ136-144) ...................... 293 Professor Douwe Korff, London Metropolitan University, European Union Agency for Network and Information Security (ENISA) and Charlie McMurdie—Oral evidence (QQ73- 85) .............................................................................................................................................................. 294 Law Society of England and Wales—Written evidence ................................................................ 295 Law Society of England and Wales, Mike Kennedy, Professor Estella Baker—Oral evidence (QQ15-28) ............................................................................................................................................... 303 Law Society of England and Wales—Supplementary written evidence ..................................... 304 Law Society of Northern Ireland—Written evidence ................................................................... 309 Law Society of Scotland—Written evidence ................................................................................... 312 Lincolnshire County Council, European Commission, British Red Cross—Oral evidence (QQ85-101) ............................................................................................................................................ 313 Claudio Matera, Asser Institute—Written evidence ..................................................................... 314 Charlie McMurdie, Professor Douwe Korff, London Metropolitan University and European Union Agency for Network and Information Security (ENISA)—Oral evidence (QQ73-85) .................................................................................................................................................................... 321 Meijers Committee—Written evidence ........................................................................................... 322 Morten Messerschmidt MEP—Oral evidence (QQ152-160) ...................................................... 327 Migration Policy Centre, Migration Policy Institute Europe—Oral evidence (QQ29-51) .... 346 Migration Policy Institute Europe—Written evidence .................................................................. 386 Migration Policy Institute Europe, Migration Policy Centre—Oral evidence (QQ29-51) .... 395 National Crime Agency, Association of Chief Police Officers and Europol—Oral evidence (QQ52-72) ............................................................................................................................................... 396 Northern Ireland Executive—Written evidence ............................................................................ 397 Dr Roderick Parkes, Dr Yves Pascouau and Professor Peter van Krieken—Oral evidence (QQ122-135) .......................................................................................................................................... 398 Professor Steve Peers, Professor John Spencer, Professor Elspeth Guild—Oral evidence (QQ1-14) ................................................................................................................................................. 432 Scottish Government—Written evidence ....................................................................................... 433 Professor John Spencer, Professor Elspeth Guild, Professor Steve Peers—Oral evidence (QQ1-14) ................................................................................................................................................. 435 UK Government—Written evidence ................................................................................................ 436 UK Government—Oral evidence (QQ161-178) ........................................................................... 443 UK Government—Supplementary written evidence ..................................................................... 475 Professor Peter van Krieken, Dr Roderick Parkes and Dr Yves Pascouau—Oral evidence (QQ122-135) .......................................................................................................................................... 480 Professor Helen Xanthaki—Written evidence ............................................................................... 481 2 of 485 Association of Chief Police Officers, Europol and National Crime Agency—Oral evidence (QQ52-72) Association of Chief Police Officers, Europol and National Crime Agency—Oral evidence (QQ52-72) Evidence Session No. 4 Heard in Public Questions 52 - 72 WEDNESDAY 18 DECEMBER 2013 Members present Lord Hannay of Chiswick (Chairman) Lord Anderson of Swansea Baroness Benjamin Lord Blencathra Baroness Corston Lord Dykes Baroness Eccles of Moulton Viscount Eccles Lord Faulkner of Worcester Lord Judd Lord Morris of Handsworth Lord Rowlands Lord Sharkey Lord Tomlinson Lord Wasserman ________________ Examination of Witnesses Rob Wainwright, Europol Director, Keith Bristow, Head of the National Crime Agency, and Sir Hugh Orde, President of the Association of Chief Police Officers Q52 The Chairman: Good morning to the panel, who are here today to help us in the inquiry that we are conducting at the moment, which is, as you know, about the future justice and home affairs programme for the European Union from 2015 to 2019, it thus being the successor to the various Tampere, Hague and Stockholm programmes. It is likely to be adopted by the Council towards the end of next year under the Italian presidency, and the debate on it is already beginning. 3 of 485 Association of Chief Police Officers, Europol and National Crime Agency—Oral evidence (QQ52-72) We are trying to do something that is slightly innovative, which is to get involved in the formulation of policy in the European Union upstream—that is to say before it gets set in concrete