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1 1 CITY OF NEW YORK 2 2012-2013 DISTRICTING COMMISSION 3 PUBLIC MEETING 4 Queens Public Library 5 41-17 Main Street 6 Flushing, New York 11355 7 August 21, 2012 8 5:10 P.M. 9 10 IN ATTENDANCE: 11 JUSTIN YU 12 JOHN ROBERT 13 ROXANNE J. PERSAUD 14 GLORIA CARVAJAL WOLFE 15 MADELINE PROVENZANO 16 LINDA LIN 17 BENITO ROMANO, Chair 18 JAMILA PONTON BRAGG 19 OSCAR ODOM, III 20 FRANK PADAVAN 21 SCOTT CERULLO 22 KAMILLAH M. HANKS 23 THOMAS V. OGNIBENE 24 25 DIAMOND REPORTING (718) 624-7200 [email protected] 1 2 DISTRICTING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING 1 MR. ROMANO: Good evening, everyone. My 2 name is Benito Romano. I am the chair of the New 3 York City Districting Commission. Thank you for 4 coming tonight and welcome to the New York City 5 Districting Commission's public hearing. 6 A special thanks to Tom Galante who is the 7 president and CEO of this beautiful library, and 8 Donna Ciampa, who is its manager. I think we are 9 going to hear from Donna for a moment. She wants 10 to say a word or two, and then we will hear from 11 Hugh Weinberg, counsel to Borough President Helen 12 Marshall. 13 MS. CIAMPA-LAURIA: Good evening, everyone. 14 My name is Donna Ciampa-Lauria and I am the 15 director of the Queens Library of Flushing. 16 Queens Library serves over two million people at 17 62 locations and circulates among the highest 18 number of books and other library materials in 19 the country. 20 Libraries have long played an important role 21 in the civic life of their communities and 22 organizations, and the Queens Library is no 23 exception. As a representative of the Queens 24 Library, I am pleased to host an event of such 25 civic importance. I would like to welcome all of DIAMOND REPORTING (718) 624-7200 [email protected] 2 3 DISTRICTING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING 1 and you invite you, when you have some time, to 2 take a look around at some of the great 3 resources, programs and services that we have 4 available. Thank you, welcome. Welcome 5 (applause). 6 MR. WEINBERG: Good evening. I am Hugh 7 Weinberg. I am counsel of Queens Borough 8 President Helen Marshall. She regrets very much 9 not being able to be here tonight. But she has 10 asked me to come and deliver her testimony for 11 her. 12 First of all, we would just like to thank 13 Tom Galante, the head of the Queens Library 14 system, and Donna Ciampa-Lauria for making this 15 beautiful library available for this important 16 event. And now, I would just like to, if I may, 17 just read as written the Borough President's 18 testimony. 19 So, when I refer to "myself" in the first 20 person as Borough President, you don't mistakenly 21 think I am the Borough President (laughter). I 22 got a little laugh, anyway (laughter). 23 (Reading): "Good evening, and welcome 24 Mr. Chairman and all of your colleagues from the 25 New York City Districting Commission to the great DIAMOND REPORTING (718) 624-7200 [email protected] 3 4 DISTRICTING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING 1 Borough of Queens. Of course, several Commission 2 Members come from Queens, including former State 3 Senator Frank Padavan and former Councilman Tom 4 Ognibene. It's good to know that our borough is 5 well represented in the districting process. 6 As the Queens Borough President, I am 7 grateful for the opportunity to address the 8 Commission as it embarks on its important mission 9 to determine the proper configuration of New York 10 City's City Council districts. 11 As we all know, fairly drawn representative 12 election districts are an essential component to 13 ensuring that our right to vote, one of our most 14 precious constitutional rights, actually means 15 something. I trust that this commission will 16 give in-depth and detailed consideration to the 17 drawing of new legislative districts for the 18 City, while of course, taking account the needs 19 of our residents. 20 I have to admit that, after seeing the 21 ordeal that the people of the State of New York 22 went through during the State legislative 23 redistricting process, I am a little concerned 24 about how this process will turn out. However, 25 the Mayor and the City Council have convened an DIAMOND REPORTING (718) 624-7200 [email protected] 4 5 DISTRICTING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING 1 impressive group of individuals to serve on this 2 commission. 3 I look forward to its proposals for new 4 districts. In coming up with your proposes, I 5 ask that you keep a number of factors in mind. 6 As you know, Queens has the second-largest and 7 most diverse population of any county in the 8 state, in terms of nationalities, ethnicities and 9 religions represented. We have more than 10 2.2 million people here. 11 For the record, however, we believe that the 12 Census Bureau undercounted the population of 13 Queens by more than 100,000 people during the 14 2010 Census. Queens is, of course, a borough of 15 many separate and district neighborhoods. Our 16 people live in dozens of communities. And when 17 you ask where we come from, we of course say we 18 are from Queens. 19 However, we also make sure to tell you what 20 communities we are from. In fact, Queens is the 21 only borough where, when we receive mail, it's 22 addressed to us in our individual neighborhood. 23 So, when we receive mail, rather than being 24 addresses to "Queens," it's addressed to "Long 25 Island City," "Glendale," "Bayside," "Little DIAMOND REPORTING (718) 624-7200 [email protected] 5 6 DISTRICTING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING 1 Neck," "Forest Hills," "Jamaica" or any one of 2 dozens of other communities. 3 We proudly identify ourselves with 4 neighborhoods and rich cultures and history. In 5 light of the unique nature of Queens and its 6 communities, it is especially important that when 7 any entity is charged with redrawing legislation 8 districts, special care must be taken. 9 We need to ensure that communities remain 10 intact and that every vote counts. As this 11 redistricting process begins, we expect that any 12 proposed new legislative districts will respect 13 the integrity of our communities and protect the 14 voting rights of our minority populations. 15 I ask that, as you undertake this task, you 16 learn from and therefore avoid some of the 17 mistakes made by the State's legislative 18 redistricting LATFOR in its initial proposals. 19 Let me take just a few minutes to remind you, for 20 example, in some cases, the proposed lines seemed 21 arbitrarily drawn. In other cases, it looked as 22 though someone was trying to solve a jigsaw 23 puzzle by jamming pieces into places they didn't 24 belong. 25 While I am sure you are aware of many of the DIAMOND REPORTING (718) 624-7200 [email protected] 6 7 DISTRICTING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING 1 criticisms expressed during the State districting 2 process, they reflect the valid concerns and are 3 worth repeating here. I remind you that black, 4 Latino and Asian-American natives and groups have 5 expressed concerns about underrepresentation in 6 many parts of the city, including, of course, in 7 Queens. 8 The initial State restricting proposals 9 showed a clear lack of respect for community 10 lines and they would have divided communities by, 11 among other things, crossing natural boundaries, 12 including major roads and highways. In fact, the 13 new districts would have divided communities in 14 Elmhurst, Woodhaven, Astoria and many others, and 15 would have jeopardized the legislation they 16 deserve. 17 For examples, in Woodhaven, some of its 18 residents would have been in the same district as 19 Astoria, which is nearly on the other side of the 20 borough. Other Woodhaven residents would have 21 been in a district that stretches to Green Acres 22 Mall and Nassau County. Under those plans, parts 23 of Woodhaven would have been represented by three 24 different state senators rather than one senator, 25 for whom the communities would no doubt be a DIAMOND REPORTING (718) 624-7200 [email protected] 7 8 DISTRICTING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING 1 bigger priority. 2 The proposed district map even appear to 3 show, and I really found this hard to believe, 4 that part of LeFrak City would have been carved 5 out and put in a separate district. Also 6 disturbing was the proposed mutilation of the 7 venerable Astoria neighborhood. The new line 8 would have cut off District 12 several blocks 9 south of the old boundary at 20th Avenue and 10 would put one side of Ditmars in one district and 11 the other side in another." 12 Again, these are examples from the State 13 redistricting process and by are no means, in no 14 way meant to imply that this commission would be 15 subject to the same problems. 16 (Reading): "I was alarmed because that 17 seemingly arbitrary and illogically redrawing of 18 district lines could have only led to diminished 19 representation for Queens communities. 20 Redistricting should protect our neighborhoods by 21 ensuring cohesive representation. That is the 22 most effective way to guarantee that lawmakers 23 will respond to communities' needs.