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Dear Prof. Yongqiang ZHANG, Thank You Very Much for Your Valuable Comments

Dear Prof. Yongqiang ZHANG, Thank You Very Much for Your Valuable Comments

Dear Prof. Yongqiang ZHANG, Thank you very much for your valuable comments. These helpful suggestions will help us improve this manuscript significantly. Following is the point to point reply.

This manuscript comprehensively reviews hydrological modelling conducted in glacierized catchments in Central . It is a very interesting synthesis focusing on the current limits, challenges and directions of hydrological modelling. The authors point it out that it is lack of glacier submodel and points directions for future hydrological modelling in those . The manuscript reads well. I recommend the manuscript to be accepted by HESS after a moderate to major revision is conduced. Following are my critical suggestions/comments for improving its quality. 1. Glacierized catchments in should be delineated. I cannot find spatial distribution of each catchment. Response: The boundary of each catchment included in our study was added in the revised Figure 1 based on the DEM derived flow direction. Glacier information was obtained from RGI (Randolph Glacier Inventory).

Figure 1: Map of Central Asian headwaters with main river basins hydrological regions, namely the Basin, the watersheds in the northern slope of the Tienshan Mountains, the Lake Basin, the River Basin, the and the Basins. Lake outlines are from Natural Earth (http://www.naturalearthdata.com/). River system is derived based on elevations of SRTM 90 m data. Glacier information was obtained from RGI (Randolph Glacier Inventory).

2. Need a table summarising attributes of the major catchments (i.e. Ili River, the Amu Darya, the Syr Darya, Tarim River, etc), including climate, soil, vegetation and glacier ratio, etc. Response: Thank you for your advice. We added Table 1 summarizing the attributes of the major catchments. Table 1: Summary of climatic and underlying conditions of the basins. The topography is based on SRTM data, glacier data is from RGI (Randolph glacier inventory), and climate is based on the world map of the Koppen-Geiger climate classification. Vegetation is from the land use data from institute of Ecology and Geography. Catchments in Syr Issyk Lake Amu Darya Catchment Tarim River Basin northern TS Ili River Basin Darya Basin Basin Basin Surrounded by the Western Western Northern Western Western Location Tienshan Mountains and Tienshan Tienshan and Tienshan Tienshan Tienshan the Mountains Valley Pamir Topography Basin area (km2) 868,811 126,463 102,396 429,183 674,848 442,476 Percentage of elevation > 28.00% 13.80% 14.50% 4.60% 20.50% 9.50% 3000m (%) Glaciation area (km2) 15789 1795 994 2170 9080 1850 Climate Arid cold; Arid cold; Arid cold; Arid Dominant climate Arid cold Arid cold continental continental snow cold Vegetation Forest percent (%) 0.7 10.4 6.4 4.1 10.9 2.5 Pasture percent (%) 16.7 14.5 31.2 28.6 19.4 17.3 Percent of water, snow, ice (%) 5.4 3.9 7.8 5.3 5.3 2.8

3. Table 1 should be more explicit. Please separate catchments to hydrological model. This table needs to match the table I recommend in point 2. Reviewers can then easily find catchments where how many hydrological modeling studies have been carried out in literature. Response: Thank you for your valuable suggestions. We separated the models for each catchment (including each sub-catchment) in Table 2. Table 2: Summary of hydrological modeling in glacierized central Asian catchments Catchments Models Major conclusions Innovations and Limitations References Tarim River Modified Improved the original two-parameter monthly two-parameter water balance model by incorporating the semi- distributed topographic indexes and could get comparable water balance results with the TOPMODEL model and model Xin‘anjiang model. (Peng and TOPMODEL In the River, runoff was more closely Less input data are required; Xu, 2010; related to precipitation, while in the Lack of glacier and snowmelt model Chen et al., River, it was more closely related to processes. 2006) temperature. Runoffs of the Aksu, Yarkand and Xin‘anjiang model exhibited increasing tendencies in 2010 and 2020 under different scenarios generated from

the reference years. Tarim River Basin River Tarim Projection Pursuit If temperature rises 0.5-2.0 °C, runoff will ( et al., Regression (PPR) increase with temperature for the Aksu, Lack of physical basis. 2003) model Yarkand and Hotan River. For the Tarim River, runoff will decrease (Liu et al., VIC slightly in 2020-2025 based on HadCM3 under Lack of glacier module. 2010) A2 and B2 when not considering glacier melt. Modified degree-day model Glacier runoff increases linearly with including potential temperature over these ranges whether or not clear sky direct Considered the effect of solar the debris layer is taken into consideration. The (Zhang et solar radiation radiation and quantified the glacier runoff is less sensitive to temperature al., 2007b) coupled with a debris effect. change in the debris covered area than the

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Runoff contribution is varying in a broad range The glacier melt runoff depending on the degree of glacierization in the (Dikich and Degree-day fraction at the catchment particular sub-catchment. All rivers showed a Hagg, 2003) approach outlet can be considerably relative increase in annual river runoff ranging

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runoff (–26.6% to –1.0%), snow melt (–21.4% Use the glacier dynamics and to +1.1%) and streamflow (–27.7% to assessed the model (Ma et al., SWAT-RSG model –6.6%); Peak streamflow will be put forward performance based on both 2015)

Chu River for one month. streamflow and glacier area.

Ili River Basin For the runoff is sensitive to snow cover area and temperature. (Ma and If temperature increases 4°C, the runoff will SRM is capable to model the

SRM model Cheng, decrease by 9.7% with snow coverage and snowmelt runoff. 2003)

runoff shifting forward. River Gongnaisi Gongnaisi Glaciers retreated about 22% since 1970s, which was considerably higher than the Using two land use data and Tianshan average (4.7%) and China average two Chinese glacier (Xu et al., SWAT model (11.5%), resulting in a decrease of proportion inventories, the model could 2015) of precipitation recharged runoff from 9.8% in well reproduce streamflow. Tekes River Tekes 1966-1975 to 7.8% in 2000-2008.

This method reduced Daily runoff correlated closely with snowmelt, dependence on conventional MS-DTVGM (Cai et al., suggesting a snowmelt module is observation, and was applied model 2014) indispensable. to the Ili River basin where traditional data are scarce. (Kezer and Ili River Ili Water decrease in 1911-1986 in the middle and Matsuyama, Water Balance lower reaches of the is due to — 2006; Guo decreased rainfall and reservoirs storage. et al., 2011) Amu Darya and Syr Darya Basin The runoff of the Syr Darya declined considerably over the last 9000 years. For the Amu Darya and Syr Darya Basin, the glacier covered areas have decrease 21% and 22% in 2001-2010 compared to the baseline Simulated long term discharge (Aerts et al., (1960-1990). for the Holocene and future 2006; The runoff of the Syr Darya is not so sensitive period. Savoskul et to future warming compared to the past 9000 The model includes the al., 2003;

years. STREAM calculation of rainwater, Savoskul et For the Amu River Basin, 20-25% of the snowmelt water and glacier al., 2004;

Basin glaciers will retain under a temperature runoff (based on the glacier Savoskul et increment being 4-5°C and precipitation altitude and equilibrium lime al., 2013) increase rate being 3%/°C. altitude). For the Syr Darya, runoff under the A2 and B2 scenarios will increase 3%-8% in 2010-2039, with sharpened spring peak and a slight lowered runoff from late June to August.

For the Amu Darya, glacier melt and snowmelt contribute to 38% and 26.9% of runoff, while for the Syr Darya, the proportions are 10.7% Amu Darya and Syr Darya Darya Syr and Darya Amu and 35.2%. Glacier retreat by 46.4% - 59.5% depending on (Immerzeel AralMountain selected GCM. For the Syr Darya, average Fully simulated the et al., model water supply to the downstream will decrease hydrological processes. 2012a) by 15% for 2021-2030 and 25% for 2041-2050. For the Amu Darya the expected decreases are 13% (2021-2030) and 31% (2041-2050).

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achieved with the maximum discrepancy of It considered geographical, simulated and observed monthly runoff within topographical and 20 mm. hydrometeorological features General enhanced snowmelt during spring and of test sites, and reduced “Oigaing” HBV-ETH and a higher flood risk in summer are predicted (Hagg et al., modeling uncertainties. OEZ model under a doubling atmospheric CO 2007) 2 This procedure requires a lot concentration with greatest runoff increases meteorological and land occurring in August for the highly glaciated surface data and knowledge of catchments and in June for the Nival the modeler.

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‖ hydrologists to validate their models, or even calibrate the models (Fekete et al., 2006). The overall idea here is to build and integrate more comprehensive datasets in order to improve hydrological modeling. An example of this approach can be found in Naegeli et al. (2013), who attempted to construct a worldwide dataset of glacier thickness observations compiled entirely from a literature review.

4.3 Multi-objective calibration and validation

A hydrological model should not just ‖mimic‖ observed discharge but also reproduce snow accumulation and melt dynamics or the glacier mass change (e.g. Konz and Seibert, 2010). As discussed previously, hydrological models that are calibrated based on discharge alone may be of high uncertainty and even ―equifinality‖ for different parameters or inputs. This could happen especially when one or several modules are missing. For example, one might overestimate the mountainous precipitation or underestimate the evapotranspiration if the glacier melt module is missing. Therefore, it is suggested to account for each hydrological component as much as possible. We strongly suggest the use of multi-objective functions and multi-metrics to calibrate and evaluate hydrological models. Compared to single objective calibration, which was dependent on the initial starting location, multi-objective calibration provides more insight into parameter sensitivity and helps to understand the conflicting characteristics of these objective functions (Yang et al., 2014). Therefore, use different kinds of data and objective functions could improve a hydrological model and provide more realistic results. For the data-scarce Tienshan Mountains, however, we do not recommend an over-complex or physicalized modelling of each component as lack of validation data which may result in equifinality discussed previously when the climate system stays stable. The more empirical models (enhanced temperature index approaches) could reproduce comparable results with the sophisticated, fully-physical based models (Hock, 2005). What worth mentioning is that, the physically-based glacier models are more advancing when quantify future dynamics of glaciers and glacier/snow redistribution when the climatic and hydrologic systems are not stable (Hock, 2005). The physical models should be further developed and used in glacier modelling as long as there is enough input and validation data

6. Line 270. Semicolon should be after ‗ text‘. Response: We have corrected it.