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MAY 2009 | Vol MAY 2009 | Vol. 27, No. 5 | baptiststoday.org $3.95 A conversation with Bill Hull page 4 MAY 2009 | Vol. 27, No. 5 John D. Pierce Executive Editor Baptists Today serves churches by providing a reliable source of [email protected] Jackie B. Riley unrestricted news coverage, thoughtful analysis and inspiring Managing Editor features focusing on issues of importance to Baptist Christians. [email protected] An autonomous national Keithen M. Tucker Baptist news journal Development and Marketing Director [email protected] Tony W. Cartledge P E R S P E C T I V E Contributing Editor [email protected] > Confessions of a mainstream liberal conservative ........7 8 Bruce T. Gourley Street Online Editor By John Pierce [email protected] Questions Vickie Frayne > On marriage, time to separate civil from ....................25 ‘Why are Baptists always Art Director ecclesiastical trying to save people?’ Jannie T. Lister Connie Pursiful By Jonathan Lindsey Office Assistant Office Assistant By Daniel Vestal Lauryn C. Dant Circulation Assistant Walker Knight Jack U. Harwell I N T H E N E W S Publisher Emeritus Editor Emeritus Board of Directors > Scripture in worship may be antidote to ....................11 Gary F. Eubanks, Marietta, Ga. (chairman) biblical illiteracy Kelly L. Belcher, Spartanburg, S.C. (vice chair) Z. Allen Abbott, Peachtree City, Ga. > Alliance adds Dempsey, reshapes staff ........................12 Jimmy R. Allen, Big Canoe, Ga. Nannette Avery, Signal Mountain, Tenn. Ann T. Beane, Richmond, Va. > Personal invitation most effective for churches............13 Thomas E. Boland, Alpharetta, Ga. Huey Bridgman, Columbus, Ga. > Southern Baptist activist organizes confab on ............13 Robert Cates, Rome, Ga. Anthony D. Clevenger, Pensacola, Fla. church and environment Kenny Crump, Ruston, La. David Currie, San Angelo, Texas > Kentucky seminary honors Glenn Hinson ....................26 James M. Dunn, Winston-Salem, N.C. James L. Evans, Auburn, Ala. W.M. Gilbert Jr., Lavonia, Ga. > Reconciliation, collaboration echoed at ......................27 R. Kirby Godsey, Macon, Ga. Cover photo of Dr. Bill Hull provided Baptist Border Crossing William B. Greenhaw, Macon, Ga. by Samford University. Leslie D. Hill, Lexington, Ky. Jimmy Little, Hartselle, Ala. Page 4 Michael M. Massar, Tyler, Texas J. Thomas McAfee, Macon, Ga. William T. Neal, Stone Mountain, Ga. Pick a project! Ella Wall Prichard, Corpus Christi, Texas 30 Michael G. Queen, Wilmington, N.C. Personalized ways to support Mary Etta Sanders, Dalton, Ga. Baptists Today abound welcome Macon Sheppard, Folly Beach, S.C. Walter B. Shurden, Macon, Ga. Charlotte Cook Smith, Raleigh, N.C. NEW GROUP David M. Smith, Houston, Texas SUBSCRIBERS Leo Thorne, Valley Forge, Pa. F E AT U R E S Sarah Timmerman, Cairo, Ga. Clement H. 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Subscription rates: 1 year, $20 2 years, $35 I N E V E R Y I S S U E 1 year groups of 25 or more, $18 1 year Canada, $35 1 year foreign, $50 Quotation Remarks 6 In the Know 23 Periodical postage paid Editorial 7 Readers’ Responses 24 at Macon, Ga. 31208 POSTMASTER: Resource Page 18 The Lighter Side 28 Send address corrections to: Baptists Today P.O. Box 6318 Formations Commentary 19 Reblog 29 Macon, GA 31208-6318 Classifieds 22 Media Shelf 36 © 2009 Baptists Today. All rights reserved. May 2009 • Baptists Today | 3 F E A T U R E BY JOHN PIERCE A conversation with Bill Hull One of Baptists’ brightest minds, William E. (Bill) Hull is research professor at Samford University and theologian in residence at Mountain Brook Baptist Church in Birmingham. IRMINGHAM, Ala. — Dr. Hull had pretty much ruled out the kind of paper that a long career at Southern Baptist sharpens the personal relevance of a biblical B Theological Seminary as New passage. You could talk [only] about it histori- Testament professor, department chair and cally and critically. dean of the School of Theology. At Samford And the American Academy of Religion he served as provost (1987-1996) and univer- just became avowedly secular in the sense that sity professor (1987-2000) before assuming his the papers were to be non-partisan. So I felt current role. the scholars reading the journals and going to His pastoral ministry includes serving the the meetings — it was hard not to fall into First Baptist Church of Shreveport, La., from that game plan. 1975-1987. He has given numerous lectures [The guilds] determine whose stuff gets and has preached at many Baptist gatherings. published. That’s how you get tenure. They His extensive writings include the books, determine who gets to read a paper at the Strategic Preaching: The Role of the Pulpit in annual meeting and who gets invited to do Pastoral Leadership (Chalice, 2006) and lectures. There is a power structure behind Harbingers of Hope: Claiming God’s Promise in this. Today’s World (Samford, 2007), and the book- So I wanted to build a bridge between let, The Meaning of the Baptist Experience As a young instructor, I was pastor in [academics and congregations] because other (Baptist History and Heritage Society, 2007). New Castle, Ky., and teaching at Southern people were chopping down the bridge. In October 2008, Dr. Hull preached a [Baptist Theological Seminary]. And then, for One other thing, the Association of sermon at Mountain Brook Baptist Church my many years at Southern, I was out every Theological Schools (ATS) moved from the titled, “The Darkness that is Light,” in which weekend in a church. B.D. to M.Div. and then moved to launch the he reflected on his diagnosis with ALS (Lou Then in Shreveport, when I was full time D.Min. In both of these cases, they tried to Gehrig’s disease). Video and text copies of the in a church, I was an adjunct professor at LSU emphasize the addition of congregational sermon are available at www.fbchsv.org. — both at the med school and the other. leadership. He and his wife, Wylodine, have two chil- Then I’d go to Southern and teach in their The B.D. was a British degree. You had dren: David Hull, pastor of First Baptist [January] term. this European tradition where you were born Church of Huntsville, Ala., and Susan Hull And at Samford I have been a university into the church. That doesn’t work in this Walker, a minister and master weaver in professor and research professor and theolo- country. We have to get our own every genera- Charleston, S.C. gian in residence — which is the teaching tion. We’re always one generation from dying. In mid-January, Baptists Today editor minister — at Mountain Brook Baptist I worked very hard on that when I was John Pierce visited with Dr. Hull in his Church. dean and provost at Southern. And I saw the Birmingham home. This conversation is So every week I would turn something tremendous pressure on faculty to so special- adapted from that interview. into either sermon or teaching, or take a ser- ize. mon idea and dig into its academic roots. I had some [professors] say, “Dean, I BT: You have been able to balance theological That’s the way I’ve lived for 50 years. It almost know all about the Hebrew language or scholarship and practical ministry better than makes you bi-vocational — or to have dual- archaeology or the medieval church, but I most. How and why? responsibility. don’t know how to guide a D.Min. student.” I think one of the great problems of my Some of them had never been pastors because WEH: I’ve done it by putting myself under generation was that religion began to go in its they had concentrated so much. the discipline of dual assignments. That is, academic expression away from congregational So I worked on what I thought was the since 1955 I have had both an academic relevance. The guilds, the Society of Biblical greatest single issue. That was, how to make responsibility — teaching or administrative — Literature, in order to make the Jewish mem- good Christian scholarship relevant to good and a congregational responsibility. bers feel at home and the Buddhist members, practice. 4 | Baptists Today • May 2009 I N F O RFMEAATTIUORNE The ATS called it: “To integrate the enormously strong moderate movement. schools. But they don’t make it a matter that knowledge of theology with the practice of When I go to non-Baptist churches, for exam- God is on their side. ministry.” So that became my theme song. ple, John Claypool used to have me at St. I think one of the great changes that Luke’s [Episcopal Church] right up the street hasn’t been recognized is … our [historic BT: That leads into — and maybe partially here. Southern Baptist colleges and universities] answers — my next question. You have wit- When I’d go for a Wednesday series or have grown more than any other facet of our nessed and participated in various shifts in something, I’d say, “OK, let’s see the alumni activity. Now they are rated tops in U.S. News Southern Baptist higher education and theo- club.
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