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Moore College Foord consecration looks to healed rift Chin, Moses Su Hyun Second Class Honours Crew, Grahame Anthony Moore College Blower, Peter Douglas Moore College Mosconi, Keith Andrew Moore College I im, Shek Eng Malaysia Bible Seminary Ireland, leffrey Cohn Sydney Mosionanalltble McKay, Robert William Private In the opening words of his address, the College Stoneman, Jacqueline Edna Moore College Robertson, tinrlsay George Moore College former Archbishop of Sydney, Sir Marcus Curtis, Brian Alec Ridley College SecoorECIass Honours Divinity Al Davies, Colin Philip St Francis' College, Milton Loane, stated that, "A service for the Bible College of Victoria Chamber, David Eric Paso consecration of a Bishop, in the Church Burke, Gregory Allan Moore College Overton, William Henry Private inn. Geoffrey Douglas Ridley College of God, is always solemn and significant. Who Millet Untie Peter Moore College Arthur, Gary John Kuring.gar College This particular service has an historic Carmichael, Ian Ridley College lohnson, Why Fay Lindsay Anglican Bd of Christian interest and strategic importance of the Short, Christopher Stephen College of Minntry Educ. Brawn "Flat, lohn Stanley k idky College Dan Peek Scott Wesley greatest moment. Here, in the oldest Vassallo, Raymond Michael Moore College Second Class Honours (Divtsion BI Patrick Cathedral of the Church in Australia, we

Harris, Timothy James Moore College Curtis, Thomas Cooper G.B.RE. "Ws not often we can experience two top Scott travels regularly, performing more are to set apart a Bishop for the Church Baptist College ot N.SW Letchford, Roderick Ronald Private Wortley, Francis Michael overseatGospel artists, in the one than 100 concerts each year. He is a of England in South Africa". !Swaney, Keith Andrew Moore College Lamont Philip Murray Private G.B.RE. Quek, Mary Bible College of New Atfield, Raymond programme," said Rev, Graham Barker of favorite on college campuses, where Fraser, Andrew Thomas G.B.RE. The Consecration Service of the Zealand singalongs, humor and storytelling are as Moore College the Youth for Christ/CAMPUS LIFE. likkerdike, Brute Norman Ridley College Davies, Owen Mervyn Reverend Canon Dudley T. Foord M.Sc., Moore College much a part of Scott Wesley Brown Trainor, Robert Charles Ridley College Fry, Robyn Frances The artists referred to are Dan Peek and B.D., Th.Schol, D.Min., as a Bishop, was Cranny, Michael Edward Bible College of N.S.W. Campbell, Geoffrey Ross Ridley College Concert as his performance. He has Baptist College of NSW. Scott Wesley Brown. They will be in held in a packed St. Andrew's Cathedral, Morrison, lohn Lawrence appeared on national television and with Hale, Stephen John Moore College DIPLOMA IN THEOLOGY Australia, early in February, to perform at Sydney, Sunday, February 12th, 1984. This Storrie, William Bennie Baptist College of NSW. fin alphabetical order) such artists as fff Thomas, Ray Stevens, three concerts for Youth for Christ. Service would result in Bishop Foord Blanch, Phillip David Baptist College of NSW. Pass Kenny Rogers and Pat Boone. Percival, Inc Arnold Moore College Archer, Christopher lohn Private The concerts will be held at the Kew becoming the Presiding Bishop of the Betts. Robert Paul Presbyterian Theological Battersby, Ian William Ridley College Tickets for the Australian concerts, will Church of England in South Africa. Hall Civic Centre, Melbourne (February 15th); Brownscombe, Timothy Rod Ridley College be available through the Christian Ralston, Alexander Bruce Moore College Clancey, Winton. Michael Private the Church of Christ, Wollongong Special guests at the service included Bible College of New Koh, Ngiang Cheh Peter Cozens, Ronald lames Ridley College Booksellers and Youth for Christ offices in Zealand (February 16th) and the Ryde Civic the Bishop of Kimberley and Kuruman, Collodi, Ian Walter St John's College, Morpeth each area. Wins, Graham Keith hnore College Hill, lam Mabel G.B.RE. Centre, Sydney (February 17th). the Right Reverend George Swartz, Tan, Patrick Poh-Seng Bible College of New G.B.RE. Hill, Rowland Alfred representing the Church of the Province Zealand Ridley College Dan Peek was an integral part of one of Lamont Murray lames Bones, Graham John Baptist College of N.S.W. Mansell, Cary Stuart St John's College, Morpeth the foremost rock groups of the of Southern Africa; the Registrar of the Trebino, Brian Peter Bible College of New Milne, Donald Martin 0.6.1LE. evenites, named "AMERICA". He is now Church of England in South Africa, Mr Zealand Morse, Antony Richard Private Baptist College of NSW. Bible Herbert Hammond; the Chairman of the Driver, Phillip Allred Paschke, Ronald john St. Francis' College, Milton on his own and spends much of his time Moore Cotten Orr, Graeme Bruce • Christopher Miles Private Anglican Consultative Council, Mr John Tart, Siew Choo Bible College of New preparing material for record albums, as Ray, William lames Private Denton and the Primate of the Anglican Zealand Sunnier, David Ian Ridley College well as producing albums for other distribution Moore College Beckman, Raymond Vincent Stokes, Gordon Stewart Kuring-gat CnIlege/Bible artists. He has appeared on such Church of Australia, the Most Reverend Coppins, Michael Leslie Bible College of New Studies Sir John Grindrod, KBE. Zealand Thornton, Edwin McKellar St Fronds' College, Milton television programmes as "700", "PTL facing Trouse, Philip Gregory Ridley College Pass CLUBS" and Robert Schuller's "HOUR OF The reading, Jeremiah 17:5-8 was Wieckhardt Ian Geoffrey Ridley College Kendall, leff fey Thomas Presbyterian Theological POWER". presented by Mrs Dorothy White, a Hall DIPLOMA IN MINISTRY difficulties Church Warden from Canon Foord's Ridley College Ridley, Roger Kenneth lin order of merit) Scott Wesley Brown is described as one Streatfield, Margaret Louise College of Ministry parish of St Ives; the Right Reverend Barry of the few "who successfully A recent traveler revealed that in the Johnstone, Ian Douglas Presbyterian Theological Second Class H0110111. Hunter BA., Th.L., Bishop of Riverina read Baptist College of N.S.W. communicate with entertaining genius". commencing a new phase in their lives, Hall Hall, Douglas Alan Customs Office in Amony (Xiamen), a Sir Marcus Loane told of Canon consecrating Canon Foord on this Baptist College of NSW. Stoodley, Cohn Ross Salvation Army training the Epistle, I Corinthians 15:12-22; the Thow, Lyn Howard occasion. Bishop Foord's vast experience of Moore College College large sign is posted stating that Bibles and Foord's background experiences which Robinson, Ramon Gospel, Luke 6:17-28, was read by the how, Kong Tow Bible College of New Eastment Kevin Charles Baptist College of N.S.W. Pangendahen, Richard Baptist College 01 N SW. religious literature are forbidden items. fitted him for his new and formidable church life, theological attainments and Zealand Agent, Boyden f ric Bible College of New Right Reverend George Swartz, Bishop of The testings and trials will not cease, Daniel F. However, this is not found in ports of task. Sir Marcus also presented a resume popularity as a teacher, conference Aow, Meow Kiang Bible College of New Zealand Rade, William Senior House of the Epirhany, Kimberley and Kuruman. commented Sir Marcus in addressing Zealand Dawkins, Andrew Mark Baptist College of N.S.W. entry located near Hong Kong, according speaker and university worker will all be Malaysia of the background to the division of the Canon Foord personally, but the fulness Salvation Army Training The presenting Bishops were the Asplin, Alan Moore College Loughrey, Glenn William Splinter, David Ian Ridley College to the Chinese Church Research Centre. used to the full in his new role. The new Moore College College Church of England in South Africa and of Christ would see him through every Irvin, John Richard Splitt David Iliptist College of NSW. Bishop of Armidale, the Right Reverend Moore College the Anglican Church of Australia. Bishop will leave Australia towards the Roberts, Leigh Gilbert PM fin alphabetical order) Storrie, William Bennie Baptist College of N.S.W. A traveller to Inner Mongolia reported difficulty and circumstance. lohnson, Alvin Harley Bible College of Victoria Moore College Peter Chiswell and Bishop Neville end of March and will be installed soon Ahmed, Zahir Baptist College of N.S.W. Straney, Mark Desmond that as he gave a Bible to a friend, who Powell, Brian William Bible College of Victoria lupou, Slone Tavake Bible College of New Langford-Smith, former Bishop of Although both had started similarly, as Boland, Christopher Donald Baptist College of N.S.W. For Bishop Dudley Foord, his wife after his arrival in South Africa. Powter, Stephen Leslie Presbyterian Theological • Zealand • was once a house church leader and has Bones, Graham John Baptist College of NSW churches in a colonial setting, personal Hall Nakuru. The Archbishop of Sydney, The House of the Epiphany, Unggin, Jackson Drat House of the Epiphany, since joined the TPSM, he was asked Elizabeth and their four children, the RAMON WILLIAMS BLIMeng, Stanley ak Most Reverend Donald Robinson differences resulted in a rift which was Malaysia Malaysia service held a special sense of SCHOLAR IN THEOLOGY Walght, Thomas Andrew Bible College of New where the Bibles came from, a question seen to be "healed" through the act of Butterworth, Christopher St lohn's College, Morpeth consecrated Canon Foord. (in order of merit) Zealand Edmund seldom asked before. Second Cleat Honours Curtis, Brian Alec Ridley College Moreover, in Hunan, some house Driver, Jeffrey William Private CutImk, Ian Walter St John's College, Morpeth Prizes: Driver, Phillip Alfred Baptist College of NSW The W. Hey Sharp Prize Gerd Aren Van Klinken church leaders' homes were searched Pan Dutton, Bruce Baptist College of N.S.W. 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Book Reviews ... page 10 In the evening, one group started 45 minutes ahead of the other, so that (Photo-story next page) I Sir Marcus Loane, who visited South Alon, AUSTRAL AN CHURCH RECORD, FEBRUARY 20, 1584 —1 12 — AUSTRALIAN CHURCH RECORD, FEBRUARY 8, 1984 Litt 31.1 attend, stay either at the established which I think Christians can be convention accomodation, at nearby underhanded, and practise cunning, is to create an artificially high emotional Women Deacons Permanent Diaconate—Deaconesses. camping grounds, or at houseparty sites in Katoomba. atmosphere, which makes people think An edited version of a paper presented to the Australian Anglican Deaconess Conference— February 1984 by Deaconess Margaret Rodgers things they don't really think, and do our time are really prepared to eschew previously changed its canons to allow whose ministry is oversight of the Tent headache thngs they don't really want to do. In our Anglican Church of Australia, the possibility of climbing up the ladder, for a diaconate "which would be congregation. This year, more than any other, was an Instead says Paul, we, by the open within the last twelve months, there have of ascendency to the top of the regarded as a permanent vocation!' (Does this mean that no deacon should organiser's nightmare. The convention statement of the truth can commend been a number of moves to bring to hierarchy? ourselves of everyman's conscience. If fruition the possibility of women be made a priest until he is placed in had outgrown a 1500 seat auditorium, Not so the Anglican Church in The permanent deacon would and it was planned to have seating for that's the attitude of the people leading, becoming deacons. In some cases, this is Australia! charge of a congregation? It seems to me as it is here, I don't think emotions are seen as quite a separate matter from the that there is a strong case for this continually model to the whole people of three and a half thousand, in a giant, God the essential nature of christian rented circus tent. But, several days anything to fear. It would be very difficult move to achieve the ordination of The big questions practice). to get so many Christians together in the women priests. In other cases, the making ministry. One does wonder if we should before the conference was to start, As we ponder upon the restoration or It is not inconsistent with any scriptural of women deacons is viewed as a return to the one practice of the early organisers were advised that they would one place, listening 'to the gospel, without renewal of the diaconate to a permanent teaching that women should exercise the them getting emotional at some point, preliminary step, or an achievable step, church. If we have a body of permanent have to make do with a tent which only order of ministry, to which women can be ministry outlined above, and indeed it is about some things. But it has to be the before the ordination of women priests. deacons, should the archdeacon, who is seated two thousand. Thus the decision admitted, we should perhaps reflect upon true that deaconesses already exercise Word that generates the emotions, not in fact the bishop's man, come from their was taken to run separate meetings in the In 1983 the Synods of two metropolitan questions such as the following: this deaconal ministry. It is therefore the speaker, the song leader, or whatever ranks? auditorium and then the tent, to allow all Sees, Sydney and Melbourne, voted to appropriate that there should be women 1. What is a deacon? What is the , three and a half thousand convention begin moves to allow women to be made deacons, and that deaconesses should be 3. Should the permanent deacon goers, the opportunity to see the speakers But what do the convention organisers deacons. In the same year the diocese of ministry of a deacon? comprehended by the diaconate. be non-stipendiary? live, rather than relayed to an overflow do once they have the thousands of Grafton carried a resolution which asked This question was asked of the writer 2. Permanent or Distinctive One hears occasionally of a lay area by Public address systems. young people seated, out of the the Standing Committee of General by a number of Synod persons after the Katoomba mist and rain, and ready to Synod to introduce into the next sitting of Diaconate. diaconate. Your present writer was for "It was a difficult decision;" said General Synod legislation giving effect to Sydney Synod debate in October 1983. some time tempted by this concept Chairman of the Youth Convention listen? Making women deacons does raise the Resolution 20 of the Lambeth Conference under the influence of a paper presented Committee, Graham Conway, "because "It's always the two-fold message of question of permanent diaconate — of a to the Conference Mission and Ministry 1978. New Testament return to a practice of the early church. In held in Canberra in August 1971. I now There are therefore now, diocesan The New Testament speaks of the our contemporary scene many questions understand that the term lay diaconate is committees on the diaconate (and presence of persons called deacons in flow from this. a solecism. There are two mutually women deacons) in Melbourne and some of the congregations — see What would be the relationship exclusive concepts brought together in 3,500 at Katoomba Youth Convention Sydney. The Standing Committee of Philippians 1:1, 1 Timothy 3:8f, possibly between the permanent deacon and the that term. General Synod has set up a committee to Romans 16:1, and a much more remote apprentice priest deacon? Can they exist making sure they are in relationship with monitor the work of the diocesan bodies, We do need to note however that there "The great tendency for all of us, is to possibility Acts 6:1-7. The function of the happily side by side in the same God, and making sure they are going on and to co-ordinate the legislative are many permanent deacons who are forget that a new generation coming up with that relationship" says Phillip deacon is not mentioned, though we diaconate' Earlier your writer would not employed in secular occupations. preparation for the General Synod. have agreed that this was possible (see Sk has not been taught what I've been Jensen," so it is always evengelism and note that the deacon is referred to Lambeth 1968 and ACC 1976 All of this indicates that there is a wide Mark's Review, December 1980). Evidence taught We assume they know it, but in holiness that we'll be speaking about ..." alongside the elder/bishops (except for recommended that the diaconate be fact they don't know it We assume they consensus on the idea of women the incidental reference to Phoebe). The from Episcopalian and American Catholic extended to "men and women remaining Evangelism deacons in the Church in this country. sources indicates that there are tensions are doing what we were taught, only to qualifications in the Pastoral Epistles in secular occupations." One must ask, discover they are not doing it. So what we This year, John Chapman spoke for the One can say with a fair degree of closely parallel those of the elder. Does experienced, and also between however, is there any need to being into musn't do, is forget about those usual Saturday night evangelistic meeting. certainty that it is only a matter of time this imply that the two offices are related permanent deacons and priests. an order of ministry an active laity? What (keeping in mind the slowness of our fundamentals ..." "One of the nights has normally been and involved in somewhat similar duties? Lambeth 19t8 envisaged a diaconate purpose is served? Is anything extra Constitutional procedures) before The deacons receive less references than That statement from the Director of the devoted to evangelism, on the basis that which would include both diaconal added to their ministry? bishops are making women deacons. elders, and where they are connected department of Evangelism, for the a lot of the kids who will come up will models, and there seems no reason why ACC 1976 asked this question in their they are mentioned second. Does this Anglican diocese of Syndey, Canon John simply be a cross section of the In some provinces in the Anglican this should not be possible. Indeed, one Report. What is added by the diaconate to imply they are the elders' assistants? Chapman, sums up what the organisers fellowship groups. Some of those wil be Communion there are already women can foresee that the permanent deacon, the essential call to the lay person to serve of the Katoomba youth convention unbelievers, if the fellowship is really deacons — either as the step before the Certainly the term diakonis carries its who has entered into a ministry of service God by meeting the needs and hungers of sought to do in their tenth year. doing its work!' John says the nights women are ordained priest — or because root meaning of service or servant. If the of life, would serve as a model and a men in the world? when the Gospel is preached also give the province has accepted the notion of incident in Acts 6 tells us anything, it is reminder to the transitory deacon that The proferred reply to that question "Getting to know God" incentive to the young Christians. "They permanent diaconate. There have been that the church early experienced the the essense of christian ministry is service was this: women deacons in the Church of the (Mark 10:45),It would also serve as a The convention is held every Australia see me doing it, and they say to need for a ministry of service, of christian It may be claimed that, wherever it was day long weekend, at Katoomba in the themselves, Evangelism is important. He's Province of Wales since 1980, and the caring for the material needs of others. It reminder for those in the priestly and publicly known that, for example, a Blue Mountains, West of Sydney. The doing it. So every time you do it, its got Church of England is moving in its shows a model of diaconal ministry as episcopal ranks. It is true indeed that psychiatrist, a lawyer, an accountant or the General Synod to that end. theme of the 1984 convention was spin off value, as well as the fact that you ministry of service. permanent deacons, accepting for life a headmistress of a school, were deacons, are directly evangelising their friends!' Making women deacons in provinces ministry of assistance and service would "Getting to know God". Speaking this It is fair to say too the New Testament Continued next page year, were john Chapman, Allan Chapple, The 1985 Katoomba Youth Convention of the Anglican Communion in which indicates a development of a ministry of be very special people. For how many in a Uniting Church Minister from Perth, is scheduled to feature Dr. Helen women cannot be priests inevitably raises assistance and service. and regular conference Chairman, Phillip Rosevere, a missionary speaker from the questions in relation to the nature of the Were there women deacons? The Jensen, the Anglican Chaplain to the World Evangelisation Crusade, and Dick diaconate. For some centuries in the evidence is not conclusive but it does not Lucas, the minister at St. Helens Church, Catholic and Anglican traditions, while University of New South Wales. Guest Speaker, Canon John Chapman (left), Director of the Anglican Department of seem inconsistent with the references in the traditional three-fold order of The thousands of young people who evangelism in Sydney, with the Chairman of the Convention Council, Rev. Phillip Jensen Bishopsgate, in London. Romans 16:1 or 1 Timothy 3:11 to assume ministry (bishop/priest/deacon) has travel from all parts of New South Wales their presence in the early church. could still find something to laugh about — in spite of the weather. photo Ramon Williams Encouraging responses been retained, the deacon has merely and the Australian Capital territory, to For many, the weekend spent in been an apprentice priest Clergy can Later Developments we were really asking the speakers to hardly wait for their new curate — a Katoomba is a one-off occasion, which The ministry of the deacon developed douple up. They responded well, and in deacon — to be made a priest, so he will has little impact on them. But, for others, alongside that of bishop and elder in the fact in some ways it worked out better the convention has marked a new be more useful in the parish. post-Apostolic church. The diaconate than in previous years." direction in their lives. Phillip Jensen In my view this transitory apprentice— does not seem to have become a CHRISTIAN ANALYST/PROGRAMMER Growth believes the ministry is having an priest diaconate which we now stepping-stone to priesthood until the important impact on the ongoing youth experience has led to the debasement of fourth century. Prior to then it seems to It certainly worked out better, work in New South Wales. He cites the the diaconate as a traditional order of have been a permanent ministry. numerically, than in previous years. The example of a youth leader from a church ministry, and of the concept of diaconal Ignatius wrote that the ministry of the conference started with an annual crowd in the central west of the state, who ministry. deacon is "the ministry of Jesus Christ, of five to six hundred, and has been originally came alone to the convention, who was with the Father before all ages steadily growing during the past ten the next year brought two more, and this Anglican conferences and has been manifested in the final years. Chairman, Phillip Jensen, believes year, was there with his youth group of DBA PTY LTD., At the Lambeth Conference of 1958 the time" (Magnesian 6:1). He urged that "the the standard of the speakers, brings thirty people. Bishops adopted Resolution 88 "The one thing to do is deacons too, who are ministers of the people back "We contribute to that work" says have high quality speakers all the time. The Conference recommends that each mysteries of Jesus Christ, should please all Reverend Jensen "but in other cases, province of the Anglican Commission shall The ministry is cumulative, as people in every way; for they are not servants of individuals have been touched by the consider whether the office of Deacon shall food and drink, but ministers of the ICE come and hear it, and value it, they will work. Six years ago, an Italian man be restored to its primitive place as a come and bring their friends back the church of God" (Trallians 2,3). Polycarp responded at the evangelistic meeting distinct order of the Church, instead of next year, or will mention it to people, emphasised their ministry of service — WITH being regarded as a probationary period for A committed Christian with a minimum of four years and became a Christian. Since then, we MOM E LEPR and the word spreads ..." the priesthood. "Likewise the deacons should be us haven't seen him, but just now we heard blameless before his righteousness, as programming/analysis background is required. Experience in The 1968 Lambeth Conference also THAOSY SUFFERERS Emotionalism he is about to go to Italy as a missionary!' servants of God and Christ and not of development of commercial software on mini and micro considered the Diaconate. W EVER BEFORE But, with increasing numbers, comes While such stories may not be typical men; not slanderers, or double-tongued, systems is essential. Background in COBAL BASIC, fourth The final text of Resolution 32 from th,m.o,„ARE . one or ON • TREATMENT the tendency towards emotionalism. of young people's responses to the not lovers of money, temperate in all Lambeth 1968 said: and thousands like hio.. generation languages, and PICK operating system is Allan Chapple believes the attitude of the weekend, organisers are well aware of the matters, compassionate, careful, living according to the truth of the Lord, who ):: saying prefered. Experience in the insurance industry would also be organisers overcomes that;" I find myself value of starting the year off with a time (a) That the diaconate, combining service of hesupport is on treatment.In our ministry. But He is one of the more"Thank fortunate ries others with liturgical functions be open to: became 'a servant of all"' (Philippians The You' 1. your coming back to second Corinthians, of intensive, clear biblical teaching, and challenge is But "the an advantage. The successful applicant will be working they have no intention of letting the tenth (i) men and women remaining in secular 5:2). "there remains yet much land to be possessed" chapter four; that is, we renounce occupations. closely with clients, developing and modifying systems, and anniversary, year he their last at Later the deacon is seen closely message and medicine of hope.to reach AT LEAST out into 10 MILLIONnew areas LEPROSY with the disgraceful, underhanded ways, we refuse (ii) full-time church workers. Katoomba. SUFFERERS ARE STILL WITHOUT TREATMENT. taking responsibility for software generated by the to practise cunning. One of the ways in (iii) those selected for the priesthood. connected to the bishop — in fact his They need all the help we can give. development team (b) That Ordinals should, where necessary, be man —"the bishop's ear, mouth, heart STOP PRESS! revised: and soul" (Didascalia 3:13). has been grantedThe Leprosytax deductibility Mission (Australia) Negotiable, depending on experience. (i) To take account of the new role The third century appears to have been ALL DOIVATIONs TO OUR OVERSEAS WORK Salary: envisaged for the diaconate. the "heyday" of the deacon. Later after a ARE NOW TAX DEDUCTIBLE (ii) by the removal of the reference to the DBA is a Sydney based consulting and software development diaconate as "an inferior office." struggle vis a vis roles with the presbyter in its Ministry of hope. the diaconate became a preliminary step LOT011y MISSi011 group. Each member of the team is a committed Christian, (iii) by emphasis upon the continuing The element of diakonia in the ministry of to priesthood. Prior to that diaconate was I would like to join serving the Lord in daily work. Please find enclosed donation of: for the general bishops and priests. a permanent ministry. $ ..... for ..... weeks' overseas work (c) That those made deaconesses by laying on $...„ for runntng a salary for a a The Leprosy of hands, with appropriate prayers, be paramedical Mission. typical leprosy declared to be within the diaconate, Anglican Prayer Book control worker at $25

(c) The appropriate cannonical legislation be The Ordinal requires that no-one program at a week. enacted by provinces and regional should be a deacon before 23 years, and gee a day. Churches to provide for those already that before being made a deacon the ordained deaconesses. Contact: candidate should be tested and examined name David Bates I Please tisk If reeelPt ssaslssd Rob Brennan as to their 'call' — this to fulfil the (02) 630 8966 (02) 799 4400 Some immediate changes requirements of Article 23. if mailed to. No postage stamp required Following upon the Lambeth The ministry envisaged comprehends Freepost No- 71. Box Hillp .o. Box 293. Box Hill,Victoria 3128 Conference of 1968, provinces of the the New Testament notes of assistance to Mission, Associates Pty. Lid., Leprosy David Sates & Commission responded to these the priest and of pastoral care (service). The Sox 49, Carlingford. 2118. clil P.O. resolutions in various ways. The Episcopal The deacon does not have the oversight Church of America had quite some time of the congregation, but assists the Priest AUSTRALIAN CHURCH RECORD. FEBRUARY 20, 1984 —3 2— AUSTRALIAN CHURCH RECORD, FEBRUARY 20, 1904 Melbourne Report: "Adolescents Ausnav Publications Launched Coming Into Welfare"

Youth unemployment and peer group "Teenagers in Residential Care". pressure to enjoy an affluent lifestyle are Elizabeth Bradshaw wrote: "It is very bringing an increasing number of sad to watch a 16 year old shattered after Pop Goes the adolescents to the attention of welfare being told she it too far into pregnancy "I Don't Want services. for an abortion. To watch the fear on the Gospel This is the view of the Mission of St. face of a 15 year old when she gets her to Write this James and St. John in a review of their first labour pains. What an incredible programs prepared for the Anglican responsibility for a teenager to have to Diocese of Melbourne's Commission on make a decision about the life and future Column!" Youth Affairs. of another human being." She wrote of the consequences of the Three workers for the Mission of St. young man involved, the lack of his legal James and St John prepared submissions rights, the fact that he has little say in the for the diocesan commission — Peter Allan Craddock child's future. Lesley Hicks Leech, youth worker with Peninsula Family Services on "Delinquency and its Miss Bradshaw questioned whether Treatment"; Miss Elizabeth Bradshaw, Co- youth services in churches are doing I have been writing this series of columns formula is still appropriate. Your job of catering to adolescents. Some typical Our teenage son at the beginning of ordinator of Pregnancy and Parent much to help young people understand for some time now (since 2/7/79) and work is to get the ingredients right and to statements by exponents and critics: their own sexuality, peer pressure for December was saying that Narara '84, to Support Service, on "Unwanted haven't really suffered very seriously from apply it correctly. Seen in this light the "Rock music is sex and you have to hit be held over the Australia Day long Pregnancy of Teenagers"; and Dirk Van sexual activity, physical maturity "writer's block" during that time. But task is manageable if you're prepared to them (teenagers) in the face with it" weekend, was an absolute must for him. Neuren, social worker in charge of questions, relationships and today is different! My wife jokingly make some changes and to ease off the (Richard Oldham, manager of the Rolling Any Christmas money he got would have Blackburn residential child care, on responsibility. suggested that I write about not knowing tension somewhat You'll get there in the Stones, quoted p.33) and "Songs, in shoe to be saved to enable him to pay for the what to write about. My reaction was that end, after all I didn't want to write this have become the new pornography" privilege of slumming it outdoors this is too corny and surely there's a column, but I did, and I enjoyed letting listening to non-stop rock music for the (Herbert Kretzmer, TV critic, p.35). Permanent Diaconate cont. better way to resolve the problem. off some steam! I'll be back to "normal" duration of the festival. next column. Satanic Links However, as you can see I have followed To our profound relief, something not only would there be the assurance that her advice. Another association, related to the to the life lived at risk — when the Teow Li Sim, Bill Petterson (Director) and their financial consultant, Ken Anderson, with one happened in the following month or so to each would bring Christian values to their parochial income is suddenly reduced, message of sexual permissiveness of the new additions to the range, a suitably screen-printed T shirt. But I can't just leave it at that Why change his priorities. He's been part of an professional relationships; but also the who is the first to lose their job from the photo Ramon Williams embodied in both the driving beat and can't I get going? This is a feeling and excellent Bible study group. The specific acceptance that in etch of them is a parish staff? Will the situation be the question state which comes to us all from the lyrics of much of the music, is that or particular grace and calling from God, and Appeals subject of rock music and the dominant same for permanent deacons? If this is a time to time. It can be very hard to get on portion it took of his time and money and rebellion against parental authority, and the proper authority of one upheld by the On February 1st, "AUSNAV The wide variety of literature and Bible HOME OF PEACE HOSPITAL collegiality of being a member of a team valued ministry, this diaconal service, it with the job when you don't really feel listening energy had not come up, but he all rightful authority — above all, God's. PUBLICATIONS" was officially launched, study programs available through (Deaconess Institution) ministry in a responsible and worshipping will require a greater degree of like it. What of the clergyman who has to It's scarcely surprising then that a third under the leadership of Bill Petterson. "AusNav" can meet most of those needs. came to realise that it was standing in the community. commitment of care and finance than has take a service and preach when a whole EVERSLEIGH clear trend in the rock music scene is that This department, of THE AUSTRALIAN "Many of the books are the type where way of Jesus being Lord of all of his life. heretofore usually been the case. host of troubles and feelings are making 274 Addison Road, Petersham of Satanism, blasphemy and the occult. It is difficult to accept such a reply NAVIGATORS LTD., will be responsible for you have to have your Bible open NERINGAH • Boys of fifteen don't do things by that task unusually burdensome? Blanchard itemises direct claims by such which posits that there is then a This problem appears to be one alongside," said Bill. "What a thrill it is to Neringah Avenue, Wahroonga halves. He sold most of his collection of the distribution of all Navigator groups as AC/DC, the Beach Boys, the 'particular grace' available to such a contributing factor to the upheaval with work with and supply such helpful Dare I confess it? There are rare GREENWICH records, gave others away to an older publications. Bee Gees, David Bowie, Alice Cooper, deacon which is not available under the regard to women deacons in Wales material". occasions when I go to my counselling River Road, Greenwich According to the Navigators official Christian guy (who presumably wasn't Fleetwood Mac, Kiss, Led Zeppelin, Meat hand of God through the empowering of through 1983, which was duly reported in interviews knowing I'm not looking newsletter "THE COMPASS", the Already the AusNav workers are These hospitals 1320 beds) undertake special- bothered by them) and gave one of them Loaf, the Rolling Stones and dozens more, the Holy Spirit to a deeply committed lay the church press. forward to it, and I really have to work objectives of AusNav Publications are to committed to supplying a bookstall at the ised medical and nursing care of chronically the full treatment down the backyard — acknowledging quite openly and person who serves Christ in the world. In hard on maintaining concentration. 6. Deaconesses and the ensure that publications will be forthcoming Sam Workman Crusades in ill patients of any age, nationality or religious smashed it up and tore up the sleeve. boasting of their involvement in occult my view there is no need for such an act Strangely enough, those sessions go constantly available to the field staff and Sydney. Nearby will be another stall faith. "Was it that bad?" I asked. practices. Many of the record sleeves of clericalisation of the laity. It inevitably Diaconate. extremely well, almost as if the extra ministries; to achieve maximum selling Bibles! "The two go together," These hospitals are co-operating with certain feature Satanic and occult symbols. Some removes such a person into a different The 1983 debate in Sydney Synod on effort required produces some extra "Yes, Mum — really offensive." distribution and promotion for the claimed Bill Petterson. general hospitals in the retraining of eligible groups even insert subversive subliminal relationship with those whom they seek the diaconate last October saw a few outcome as well. I was both astounded and thankful at benefit of the Christian public and finally, patients to return to their normal environment messages into their recordings by means to serve. They are regarded as belonging speakers ask questions about the making Follow-up material is already available his determination to clean up this aspect to have a viable operation that will one Different people react in different kinds (home, etc.). of "backward masking" and other to the clerical ranks, and therefore, of women deacons and deaconesses. and would be helpful to any series of of his life. He even sold his small/stereo/ day be able to help financially support of ways when faced by these sorts of Your help is urgently needed for our immedi- techniques (Ch.4). different There are some who argue that How would such a step effect evangelistic meetings or crusades. tape/radio. the Navigator ministry. problems. A common reaction is self- ate and future needs, including the rehabili- Drug-taking, psychological such deacons, employed in secular deaconesses, that fine body of women There are no plans for new retail directed annoyance, even anger, which tation units at each hospital. It was after his decision to act that his occupations, are on the frontier of who have contributed so much? The Bill Petterson is no stranger to sales and outlets, but those with bookshops or manipulation, perverted sex and violence results in locating blame in oneself. You PLEASE REMEMBER THE Bible study leader gave him a copy of Pop promotion. He has given up a well paid are other trends linked with rock, ministry 'in the world' and serve as a attendance at this Conference speaks for student work would be adequately feel like giving yourself a kick in order to HOSPITAL IN YOUR WILL the Gospel by John Blanchard, with position, in order to lead this new Goes according to Blanchard's documentation, model and energising agent of the laity in the interest which deaconesses have in catered for by simply requesting a get going. Sometimes this works, but All donations over $2 are allowable Peter Anderson and Derek Cleave department Already he has remodelled and not lightly to be dismissed. mission. One may argue in reply that they the subject of the diaconate, and women catologue or making a phone call. generally it is counter-productive deductions for income tax purposes. (Evangelical Press, 1983). He read it avidly, the area allocated to him and built his are in fact, a denial of the burgeoning deacons. Experience from overseas shows Bill Petterson is obviously excited about because it begins a process which can get Eiir further information phone or and said it seemed well-researched and own storage shelves for the stock. growth of lay ministry, since they remove that many deaconesses become deacons the AUSNAV PUBLICATIONS Department out of control. The process is one of write to: informed about the various groups and Suitable for Gospel? active laity into the so-called clerical as soon as it is possible, and that they are Mr Petterson has also been joined by a and is available for advice and escalating self-deprecation and which Box 124, Poet Office Petersham bands it dealt with. He wasn't sure that he The crux of all this in Blanchard's "state." usually in the forefront of moves to very eager and proficient worker, named counselling on the range of material reaches its climax with feelings of N.S.W., 2049 Telephone: 560 3866 agreed with it all. thesis is to question the suitability of any We may learn something from achieve that possibility. Teow Li Sim. While Bill was seeing to the suitable for every need. helplessness, worthlessness and total music that could be classified in the rock- experiments in non-stipendiary When women deacons are made in the stock, Li was busily coding and marking Perils of Rock "Perhaps one day we might even see personal responsibility for this situation. pop genre for use in evangelism, as a the price on every item. priesthood. In 1983; a report prepared in Anglican Church of Australia (the this range of material on the supermarket In actuality it is likely that a whole Half the book is devoted to analysing vehicle for the gospel. He does not England for the Advisory Council for the theological consensus indicates that this For Bill and his wife Jocelyn, the shelves," said one very keen and far- range of factors, personal and situational, the pop-rock scene as it has developed accept the argument that the music itself Church's Ministry (ACCM) by social' is probable) will the deaconess order no commitment to this work was considered sighted Director of AUSNAV are combining to force you into this kind over the past thirty years or so. Much of is neutral, made good or bad by the use anthropologist Dr. Mark Hodge (Non- longer exist here? We must watch events "carefully and prayerfully". There are so PUBLICATIONS, Bill Petterson. of troublesome state. There is no useful the information is in the form of direct to which it is put Apart from its sleazy Stipendiary Ministry in the Church of in England. We remind ourselves of the many young peole who need help, place for blame here, it is better to look quotation from record sleeves or the associations, he maintains that gospel RAMON WILLIAMS England) stated that this form of ministry comment from Women of the Cloth (op. spiritually, commented Bill, and then at these factors and how they operate in Continuing the popular public statements of the musicians or pop is entertainment and that this aim sits has not yet achieved its hoped for cit. p. 35) "The office of deaconess no need to grow as Christians. influencing your frame of mind. In other their managers as to their aims or uneasily with a full-orbed presentation of series contribution to expending the mission of longer exists." words concentrate on understanding philosophy. the good news about Jesus, together with the church outside the parochial what is happening to you and realize that the bad news about our sin. Conclusion Blanchard has little trouble exposing structure. your reactions are normal and the potential threat in much of the pop Some may ask do we really need a Keith Green Let us by all means restore and renew 1984 N.S.W. Election Crusade understandable given those scene for those who wish to hold to the diaconate — let us have permanent body of permanent deacons, either of circumstances. Biblical standards of sexual and But having got rid of most of his deacons, as in the early centuries of the men only or of men and women. Is such legal, moral, family and education issues For me right now, I can see why I'm ideological purity, not to mention the secular collection, our son bought several church, and women deacons too—but a diaconate really necessary? Some may Two prominent members of the New on behalf of the Festival of Light and having difficulty concentrating. My mere detail of the hearing of its devotees. of Keith Green's records, and persuaded let them be full-time, professional say let us find the answer to this question South Wales Parliament, Rev Fred Nile "Women for the Family". writing agenda includes a chapter of a The sheer shattering volume of live music me to listen to them and read the words servants of the church and the world, on and all of the questions mentioned above ED., M.L.C. and Mr Jim Cameron LL.M, of his songs (thoughtfully provided). I M.P., will be conducting campaign rallies book I've been invited to submit, an can cause in young musicians or their the frontiers of mission, evangelism and before we move into establishing a Number 3:— Dr. Graham Mclennan — could see how vitally they expressed a , throughout New South Wales during entire book on pre-marital counselling i fans deafness typical of seventy-year- pastoral care. permanent diaconate and making women Dental Surgeon, Graham is married with young and vibrant faith, in the idiom of February 1984. want to write, and two research papers olds. deacons. three children. He is the Foundation youth music. Keith Green is dead now — which will be out-of-date if I don't get a 4. How should permanent It is more necessary, in my view, to They will be visiting thirty eight country Chairman of the Orange Christian Parent The New Porn killed in a small plane crash with two of move on! deacons be trained? allow these questions to be solved centres during February for campaign Controlled School and concerned about his children at the age of 28 — but the Furthermore, in three weeks' time the The association between sex and rock In certain provinces of the Anglican through the creating and operation of a rallies as part of their 1984 election the loss of freedom in education. Last Days Ministry he established lives on. students return to University and I need is obvious, and is exploited to the full in Communion where there are permanent permanent or distinctive diaconate. The crusade. He is one of many young musicians who to have three series of lectures and doing will show whether there is need or Rumours of an early State Election have seek to glorify God in their music. deacons, and similarly in the Roman seminars ready for them. Tonight I have Catholic Church there are many diaconal not. The deacon serving the church will led these experienced campaigners to LENTEN STUDY BOOK Pop Goes the Gospel raises questions soon demonstrate what is the role and four hours of counselling scheduled and training units. It seems to be the trend for take the initiative rather than wait for Mr I've just been discussing the need to pave 1984 ORGANIST/ about the pop scene that Christians can function of a deacon. Bishops will very Wran to announce the election date, deacons to be trained separately from part of our yard as soon as possible. "More than anything else, Jesus CHOIRMASTER not afford to ignore. Even if it overstates soon know how many are needed to which must be held before October 1984. candidates for ordination to the There just isn't enough time! called us to simply follow him the case, and questions the very serve in their diocese. priesthod. One gathers that this is not the In a Press Release details were given and to do it day after day." foundations of the music ministry or However, on reflection there is enough case however with the women deacons We need to have in the ministry and about the five members of the team FOR ST. NICOLAS', COOGEE tastes of some Christians, none could fail time. There won't be if I panic and feel In SIMPLY FOLLOWING Bishop in Wales, and will not be in England. structures of our church today that standing for the legislative Council. They to benefit from an honest, unprejudiced despondent. I won't get far if I blame Muston takes us to the New One can only hope that this will not be fluidity and flexibility of ministry which are: examination of their record collection we observe early in the church a climate myself, editors, publishers, clients, Testament and the implications of Ring Rector: 665 5409 a developement of permanent diaconal Mr Jim Cameron, received unanimous and concert-going. Blanchard concludes: where ministries can develop and be students or my family. I need to following Jesus. training in Australia, for we must never be support from the Co-ordinators as leader "You have a right to your own judgment shaped as a result of response to understand the pressures and from that The book is ideal for personal and on the issue, but as a Christian you have in a situation where we have persons who of the N.S.W. Upper House Group for the understanding get the priorities in order. contemporary need in church and world, group study. are not fully biblically literate or 1984 N.S.W. State Election. One thing at a time and time to relax in a responsibility to base that judgment and they are not just shaped by a theologically equipped engaged in Fred Nile and lim Cameron $1.95 HOLIDAY ACCOMMODATION solely on the commands and principles of previously determined structure. Mr Cameron was admitted to the between. It's a simple formula and one Scripture — 'The will of God — nothing ministry in our denomination. In my view which in its simplicity seems to evade Howral N.S.W. Bar in 1961 and has served as a Number 4:— Dr. Kevin Hume, M.B., from your less — nothing more — nothing else'. On deacons should be trained alongside This paper has attempted to outline the many Christians who are seeking to serve part-time Lecturer in Jurisprudence and B.S., F.R.A.C.P., Dr. Hume is married with Annesley-Westwood Guest the issue of entertainment evangelism, candidates for priesthood. context of debate about permanent their Lord in their various ways. CHRISTIAN BOOKSHOP diaconate and women deacons. It has not Public International Law at the University seven children and is a General Of House that should be all you want to know and 5. Permanent deacons — how will One final comment If this formula attempted to provide all the necessary of Sydney Law School. Practitioner at Randwick. ANGLICAN MAIL ORDER Aitken Road all you want to do." appears not to work for you, could it be they be deployed? answers, but rather to raise some of the Mr Cameron, an independent member of Number 5:— Mrs. Elaine Nile, married ST ANDREW'S HOUSE Telephone (9481 61 2154 I would recommend the book not so that you have too many items to put in questions which appear pertinent to the the N.S.W. Legislative Assembly has to Rev. Fred Nile in 1958, mother of four SYDNEY SQUARE 2000 Gracious old building 6 acres park-like much to those of my square generation This is an urgent question which must order? Could it be that you are uncertain subject served in Parliament since 1968, giving adult children; organiser "Australian grounds, close town, golf courses, own tennis who would most likely want to agree be given due attention by the relevant about what your priorities should be? strong leadership on all moral issues. He Christian Solidarity" newspaper, ex-Court ANOTHER courts, new disabled facilities. whole-heartedly with it, as to those of the diocesan committees and bishops. Will (Copies of the full text of Margaret Could it be that relaxation doesn't come served as Speaker of the N.SNAf. Legislative Matron, N.S.W. Police Department; younger pop-loving generation who need these deacons have any "security of Rodgers paper are available from easily to you and in fact you're working Moderate tariff, special rates for groups, may Assembly from 1973 to 1976. Speaker at women's groups; home duties also do own catering if required. to think through the arguments tenure", and how will they be placed in Deaconess House, Carillon Ave, too hard on relaxing? aio Newtown N.S.W 2042) Number 2:— Mrs. Marie Bignold, and convenor of "Women For the thoughtfully. employment? All deaconesses will testify If this is the case remember that the l'UBLICATION qualified legal practitioner, wife and family", etc. 4 — AUSTRALIAN CHURCH RECORD, FEBRUARY 20, 1984 mother. Marie has been a lecturer on AUSTRALIAN CHURCH RECORD, FEBRUARY 20. 1984-5 "Male domination" A report on the Anglican Welfare Manifesto Jensen: You're now assuming we do have In August last year, for the first time every, 54 Anglican welfare agencies met at Gilbulla in Sydney to draw up an agreed statement a commitment to all sorts of social action. of policy. The resultant Manifesto was agreed on by all the delegates at the session. Because it is seen to be a foundational document for Anglican thinking and parish education, and the first of its kind, the ACR invited 3 people to discuss the Manifesto It may well be that something here is following out of the Christian gospel. I for our readers benefit. don't mean not being willing to help with Continuing the of abortion at all is to my mind a very it to be self supporting, and mutually child abuse! serious weakness. supporting. A good, stable, fair and Nichols: One reason the agencies don't discussion from reasonably equal, peaceful society is the have spiritual resources is that they can't "Inequality" desired result Secondary services are last week: find Christians to do particular jobs. Even ACR: One of the big concepts the addressed to fragile families; family if you could improve the situation what Manifesto has, and is a very popular counselling, marriage counselling, etc. are the'spiritual resources necessary? This "Male domination" concept elsewhere, is "inequality". When Tertiary services, sometimes called is where the agencies need to come "bandaide" are long term residential closer to the church and the church Forsyth: "Certain attitudes of male the conference thought about inequality, child care adoptions, whole alternatives; needs to provide more insight into this domination", I am sure "is a contributive did it not question it theologically? When prisons, corrective services, probation, area and help us to work out how the factor to crises in families" but that's the we read the Bible it's not inequality that parole. The welfare agencies have been gospel does apply to the very damaged only factor I read here; whereas I would is condemned, it's the way people misuse largely funded by the government, and people. We for example have many GO, DUDLEY, GO think that the Christian faith has a great their resources and don't meet their by the failure of the church to provide children who have never had a caring deal more to say about the causes of responsibilities. If you accept inequality funding to do anything innovative, have male in their whole experience of life. So family'breakdown. For example, people as unjust, when does inequality become been locked into the tertiary area of the to project God as a father is not a helpful trying to find from family life what only a injustice? The fact that you may earn one bottom Icy.' of residential care; the very image for them. We have many young relationship with God would find, a thousand dollars more than I, or the expensive, slow, lonetei m, lifetime women who are pregnant and are the significance and security. People serving other way around, is that an injustice? services. They have deliberately moved victims of incest Those very damaged consumerism, selfishness, people not Would you like to say something about into the secondary area, family people find it very hard to understand believing that they should keep their the use, of "inequality" by the manifesto? counselling and those supportive areas. what we are talking about when we promises. Other things come to mind. Nichols: I think we have more thinking to They would love to also be in primary mention the gospel because it seems to So Dudley Foord has been consecrated as Bishop in the Church of England ritualism and superstition. Every effort is being made to join in with the World Therefore, as regards specific action to do in this area. I think that what was areas and see the local parishes helping be the opposite of their whole in South Africa. Sydney's St. Andrew's Cathedral was not blown up; no-one Ccluncil of Churches which insists on burying the Gospel under an umbrella "call upon the church to change attitudes being addressed reflects the problems of there. experience with human beings. Now a lot was assassinated. Not that we really expected either to happen, but such of political action. Links are being forged with groups whose whole to women", and "prevent their our welfare clients. It's the inequality of of thinking needs to be done, and maybe actions would have been in character with some of the things that have been background is in every way alien to the historic Anglican position. And yet devaluation as humans", as the Manifesto opportunity from the beginning that is Jensen: It tells us also we have a lot more the church broadly can help us to do written about the situation of the Church of England in South Africa in recent the Church of England in South Africa, which by every possible Biblical test does, is not merely inadequate, but is the problem being addressed. It may not thinking to do. one could apply has remained true to the Bible and to the historical Anglican that, to show how the gospel applies in weeks. Some of the articles in both the Church Press and the secular Press positively misleading. As if once we got be expressed in the manifesto. Revival Needed purporting to give background on the relationship between the "official" formularies of the Reformation, is left on the outer. those areas. that right we can continue down our Forsyth: Is the problem not in inequality, . church have been written in a style Forsyth: Let's talk about the church. Is the church and the "rebel" or "breakaway' What this tells us is that the Anglican Communion as a whole is more merry materialist, self satisfied, whatever, as such, but inequality where the people Blue-print for Society? that would be fitting in a popular spy novel. They have talked of intrigue and church just simply reflecting Australian interested in playing Church politics than in expanding the cause of the way. I think that is one example where without are actually below what we backroom dealings; of diplomacy and behind the scenes manouevres. They society, and therefore in a sense is just as Jensen: That's fine as long as you are not Gospel. There can be NO legitimate reason for the Church of England in the selectiveness of the Manifesto is regard as adequate. It's not just that you unequal and as has much the same going to assume that we are committed have been interesting — but sad; sad because they reflect the problems South Africa not to be fully accepted as a member of the Anglican shown up glaringly, and it is a weakness. have more than I have, but that what I problems of living for themselves, and to challenging the Govt. with all sorts of which the Anglican Communion has. communion. It is a Church which faithfully proclaims the Gospel. Nichols: Three church commissions have have is not enough to properly live. not concerned for others? theories and schemes about how society We are not naive enough to think that the whole problem in South Africa What is happening, and this issue shows it clearly, is that Anglicanism tried to grapple with those wider Nichols: The problem is social stratas. ought to be run. There was an interesting revolves around churchmanship. There are obviously other factors as well I wonder whether there's a need for a throughout the world has moved right away from its roots. The Reformation questions, 'irresponsibility', etc. But Some people start off well behind. There comment in the Catholic Renewal book and some may not be at all clear to those of us who view the issue from a much more spiritual, theological, gospel has been forgotten; the Bible has been replaced; the Prayer Book and the 39 regarding the Manifesto you are certainly is in Australia a subculture of about Christians who seem very short on distance. But churchmanship does enter into it. The so called "rebel" Church revival among Christians for them not Articles are paid no more than lip service and the Church is moving further absolutely right The really stunning thing people in a poverty cycle. confidence when it comes to the Gospel, of England in South Africa — the Church into which Dudley Foord has been and further from the New Testament ideal of the Church. It is time Evangelical hang on to what they have. Just speaking at this conference was that for most all but very confident when it comes to consecrated — has a strong evangelical and reformed tradition. The Church It's lack of opportunity from the to them at the level of the Manifesto will Anglicans took a stand. our agencies the client is the single ethical comments on very complex of the Province of Southern Africa has a tradition going back to the Tractarian beginning, in education, health, in, not effect them in the slightest. It must As for Dudley Foord — our hope and our prayer is that Dudley's obvious woman with dependent children. We issues, politically and economically. You movement and the liberal theology of the late 19th Century. therefore, access to reasonable living and come from a much more gospel gifts will not be dissipated by too much time spent on Church politics. Bishop have done an analysis of our own agency are not leading us in that direction are access to opportunity to improve foundation. I heard Bill Burnett from This all reflects on modern Anglicanism. The Church of England in South Foord is well known to us in Australia as a preacher and as a man who is in Melbourne. We have 600 families you? Are you saying that the church is themselves that is seen as being the main South Africa talking about the fight Africa is not accepted as a member of the Anglican Communion. Isn't it passionately devoted to Evangelism. As the Chief Pastor of the Church of dependent upon us this week, and 500 of failing because it is not coming up with a problem. against apartheid. He used to issue long strange that at a time when huge amounts of time and money are spent on England in South Africa he has much to offer to that Church and to the wider those are supporting parents and their critique r4 Australian society and a blue Bishop-type statments about how evil it ecumenism this situation should exist. There is every effort being made by the Anglican Communion (if it will accept him). Go, Dudley, go —with our dependent children. Some of these are I'll give one small anecdote, from the was, go to church committees and tell print for what Australian society should Anglican communion to improve relationships with the Roman Catholic prayers and good wishes that God will use you to build a truly Biblical Church widows, but on the whole they are Government enquiry I was on last year. them to let the blacks in. It was all be, etc.? Church which has not radically altered its formularies since the time of the in South Africa, and anathema to all those in the Anglican Communion who deserted wives. Very few are long term We had a public access hearing in a small Nichols: I don't know what the answers Reformation and which insists still on burying the Gospel under a mass of want to play politics instead of having a true concern for the Gospel. defactos. Very few are deliberate teenage church hall in the middle of a housing disastrous, then he had some kind of mothers. The vast majority are deserted estate outside Wangaratta. This housing growth in his relationship with God and are. I think there are political social wives. estate consists of 85% of single parents began to preach how God set people free responsibility areas where the church can and their children, because that's where to care for each other. Anyone want to work through to some valid comments. Husbands are not supporting the family the housing commission puts them. comment? The Church would have to do a lot of and the state is not giving adequate Members of parliament came into this homework on particular areas. For support through the income security public access hearing to see how it was example, the social responsibilities system. Public housing and other things Personnel going. We had been going for a couple of commission intervention in the family law discriminate against them. They lock of hours and a member of parliament, male, Alan Nichols, director of the Mission act amendment debates in the last few them up in either high rise flats, or far walked in and before he heard anyone St. James and St John, Melbourne. weeks in the Senate and in the House of away housing estates in the outback of speak he said, "Of course if they only Robert Forsyth, Rector of St. Barnabas Representatives, came as a result of 10 the country in Victoria (to use a Victorian church in knew how to manage their money better Broadway, an inner-city years of work on the family law act, going example). everything would be all right". It set the Sydney. back to before it was introduced by So this was debated very hotly. There whole hall into a fury. One woman stood Peter Jensen, a lecturer at Moore Senator Murphy in 1974. So with a lot of were women present Eighty percent of up and said "Here is my budget, if I had Theological College. homework, a detailed and authentic welfare services are delivered by women. more money to manage, things would be analysis has been drawn up of the family Women were not eighty percent of our different". It's that sense of the Nichols: Because many of the Anglican law act and how it effects families. That conference because most welfare consumers themselves talking, not only agencies are run by clergy, or at least analysis comes from the experience of agencies are headed up by males. We welfare families, in the church's welfare REMOVALS STAINED GLASS WINDOWS advocates for them, saying. "Life is very chaired by clergy, there was at the found the clash within our conference. unequal from the beginning for many of agencies. It also comes out of a MOORE THEOLOGICAL Small or Large K. J. 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Chronicle Someone once suggested that "God is Think of it! God is prepared to forgive us According to Guillermo Galindo, it has WORLD like a policeman, only interested in you for our sins, even though He knows all been the Evangelicals who have shown when you're doing something wrong." about them. This is not a 'sweep them Protestant the light to the people. "We are respected under the carpet, hope they will go away' for that" Let's be sure of one thing, God is job. No, it's real cleansing, real pardon for RAB complains English interested in wrong. A policeman is really And if there was co-operation between all who turn back to God and trust in only interested in the wrong things we Growth in Protestants and Catholics that would be Jesus' death as the way of forgiveness. do, but God is interested in wrong things, of church Churchmen seen as ecumenism. "Being ecumenical;' wrong thoughts and wrong words. A Then He will begin to help us to says Mr. Galindo, "is seen as bad as being Guatemala policeman often catches a person who overcome our sin. Don't get me wrong, growth defy Synod a Communist" no Christian is ever perfect whilst on Florence Nightingale By Peter Philp, Media Director, World does wrong things. God always knows earth, but God the Holy Spirit comes to Vision of Australia Recently a pastor condemned when we do any wrong or fail to do what Most of the increase in the number of help us change. To change us from self- recognized Protestants in the city was over women ecumenism as being like Satanism. we know is right The Evangelical Church is doing fine in However, despite this, Protestants and centred people to people who care for due to the work of itinerant preachers. But thankfully it's simply not true to say Guatemala. After 100 years of missionary Catholics have come together to pray for God and others more than ourselves. God is only interested when we do This has been alleged at a meeting in priests activity it boasts today of having 26% of the nation. During a special week of something wrong. If that were true the Any good policeman is interested in Xian run by the Religious Affairs Burearu the population. No other Latin American prayer, leading Protestants and Catholics A GROUP OF 200 Church of England chances are God would have destroyed positive growth and development of a Few persons today would be unaware of the impact of the new wave of feminism on of mainland China, according to the church has that percentage of Protestant met together in prayer and dialogue and clergymen have thrown down the the human race straight after Adam and community. A policeman however is community attitudes and thought This movement began to make its mark in the 1960's. Chinese Church Research Center. adherents. That is a rise of four percent in some prominent Evangelicals met the gauntlet to the General Synod over the Eve rebelled against Him. If it were true dependent on the goodwill of people to We now notice in this decade a process of rethink or re-assessment of former views by Protestants were numbered at 3,300-an two years. Pope during last year's Papal visit. question of the ordination of women. there would have been no Christmas, no co-operate and change. some leading feminists, most notably perhaps Betty Friedan and Germaine Greer. To some increase of 1,800 over 1977 figures. These Last year as part of its centenary They say they will "actively encourage" An issue that all Evangelicals I met did Easter and no Pentecost God on the other hand is not only extent a moderation of former beliefs is occurring. Many areas of study have felt the figures were not inclusive of those my nen ordained abroad to celebrate celebrations, tens of thousands of agree on was the positive Christian The truth of the matter is that God rs so interested in our growth as individuals impact of the modern feminist movement One such area is that of women's history. involved in the house churches. Holy Communion in this country. Guatemalans turned out to see a massive leadership from President Rios Montt interested in us that He had done and is and society, but also able to change the Quite correctly, feminist historians point out how neglected women and women's One of the RAB officials complained of parade organized by the Presbyterian This announcement made in a letter to Most were pleased to have had a doing something about our sins. He raw materials. He can and is changing interests have been by historians. Now women of former times engage their interest. One the large numbers coming to the open Church, through the capital city. Guest of the Times on Tuesday, coincides with the Protestant president. Montt, they say, was wants to forgive us for our wrongs. That people and through His Spirit helping who demands attention for many reasons is Florence Nightingale. Her writing indicates church and blamed itinerant preachers honour was Guatemala's first Protestant 40th anniversary celebrations of the first open about his faith. They asked no is why God the Son came. "God many to live the way he wants which is that she was a leading feminist in her time, though she would not have known that name. for the phenomenon. He mentioned one president, Efrain Rios Montt. woman ordained in the Anglican favours and he gave none. Montt brought demonstrates His love for us in that while best and most fulfilling for us. Born in 1820, she died in 1910. She was awarded the Order of Merit by King Edward VII, interent preacher who had converted 800 Following the revolution in 1871 a communion. peace to the capital and disciplined his we were still sinners Christ died for us!' Peter Brain the first woman to be so honoured. people from a work unit of 12,500, the liberal president, lusto Rufino Barrios, The letter is signed by six clergymen, army and police to respect people, In an age when the popular belief was that the essence of femininity was to live for CCRC added. determined to introduce some balance to headed by the Rev. Ian Ainsworth-Smith, something that the Guatemalan military others, Florence Nightingale was revered for her Sacrifices for the sick and wounded — counteract the powerful Catholic Church, CAT W chaplain at St George's Hospital in South had not been noted for. Welfare Manifesto continued. though she only nursed for a very few years. In truth, as one writer has said, "the real invited the United States' Presbyterian London. He claims to have more than 200 self-sacrifice for her would have been to stay home, marry, and lead the life of a wealthy Church to send missionaries to Evangelicals claim that there was no was one of our chief problems, sure at a signatures of clergymen "who are Guatemala. The North Americans wholesale killing of Indians under Montt quite rightly has to deal with social woman". symptom level, but nonetheless the strongly in favour of the ordination of debated the issue and appeared to They say that was leftist and North questions. In the Manifesto there almost • Florence and her sister Parthenope (each named after the European city in which she abuse of alcohol is one of the chief women to the priesthood". hesitate. President Rutin°, determined to American propaganda. Rios Montt, they seems to be an Anabaptist view, the was born) were the daughters of a cultured, wealthy Englishman William Edward Australian social problems with massive The reluctant It is still illegal for women ordained introduce new Christian blood into his claim, protected the Indian population. church here and the Govt over there. Nightingale. Their mother Fanny enjoyed all the pleasures of the social life. financial consequences. It's undoubtedly abroad to celebrate communion in country, told the United States' An Evangelical theologican denies that Was that question addressed? true that a spiritual gospel, if received, Victorian England worshipped the woman in the home. She was, to use Coventry England, following a procedural Presbyterian Church that he would it was the Pope and the Catholics that Nichols: It wasn't addressed. American will help people bring their alcohol Patmore's words, 'the angel in the house! Women were viewed as wives and mothers, manoeuvre at last November's meeting of recruit the European Protestant Church brought down Rios Montt potentially or actually. The unmarried woman was viewed as 'a redundant woman' or 'a PUNCH-DRUNK from a succession of Forsyth: I don't think anybody has a blue problem under control. the General Synod which delayed yet instead. There was an immediate "The president was removed by the print for society anymore. Look at the surplus woman'. Life was divided into two spheres — the home (the place of the woman) short interviews and still suffering from I would have thought that the church's again a decision on this issue. response from the United States and two United States because he refused to Labour Party at the moment. There is and the world (the place of the man). Husbands had complete economic power over the cold he'd caught at the zoo, Dr Billy main social thrust was the preaching of The letter refers to "questionable missionaries were despatched submit to the U.S. He would not be increasing discontent with "the big their wives. Unless there was a private agreement, a wife's assets (money, property, her Graham was still on form at a press the gospel of redemption. I'm not saying tactics" used by "those who are opposed immediately. manipulated. plan". No one has any one plan anymore. children) were legally at the disposal of her husband. The law exemplified what social and conference at the Waldegrave Hall in that's all you have to do, by any means, to the ordinaiton of women at any price" Much of the recent growth within the We're all pragmatic and this may be good cultural tradition prescribed. London on Monday. "At the swearing in as president, Rios but I would have thought that was a very which have "perplexed and angered" Guatemalan Protestant ranks results from or may be bad, but I don't think anybody "A little more restrained, hopefully, a Montt told his people that it was not significant thing we do in societal terms. In her early years, Florence conformed outwardly to what was expected of her. She many in the light of Synod's 1975 mushrooming of Pentecostal Churches. It anymore believes that "here" is the bit more thoughtful, hopefully; a bit more important what the United States travelled, attended parties and the social life of her family — but eventually grew restless. declaration that there were no is estimated that of the 26% of answer. No one believes in revolution Nichols: There has been too little Her mother gave her housekeeping responsibilities but they were not enough. She wrote content to the message, though I'm not thought He said that he was leading a fundamental objections to women Evangelicals, 18% are Pentecostal. The nation that had its own flag and anthem." anymore. exposition of the ethical implications of A profession, a trade, a necessary occupation, sure about that either" was how the 65 accepting the gospel. Many clergy are priests. Central American Church and the Nichols: Yes, but I think the welfare something to fill and employ all my faculties, year old evangelist described himself, The president had not asked for help, very uncertain t' emselves about the way "The ordinary member of the Church Presbyterian are next largest agencies are concerned to do better I have always felt essential to me, compared with the Billy Graham Britain only respect in which the ethical content of the gospel of England still waits in vain for the denomination. Baptists are not analysis of what is going on in society so I have always longed for consciously or not saw in the 1950s and '60s. "We don't need the hammer and sickle- opportunity to experience the widespread but there is a host of that they can make a contribution applies to them and to their Coming to the end of his two week or the bars and stars," said Montt. Florence refused to marry, though her family had an acceptable suitor. She rebelled sacramental ministry of a woman priest," independent churches. towards a better kind of society. What congregation. visit to this country to prepare for the against the conventional life of women — in her view a waste of time and abilities. In 1852 says the letter. The Rev. Guillermo Galindo is The theologian, who asked not to be people are distinguishing, and certainly Also, on the alcohol example, there is she wrote an essay Cassandra which was an outcry against the enforced idleness of Summer 'Mission England' crusades, Dr "There are people who are so president of the co-ordination committee named, said Rios Montt was brought to the social responsibilities commission is, only one agency in the whole of Australia women (that is, the women of her class) and their frivolous, mindless life. Graham was in a reflective mood and frustrated with the present state of affairs of Evangelical Churches of Guatemala, power by younger officers who were fed between the kingdom of God ethic for that is actually running a alcohol and Why have women passion, intellect, moral activity — these three — and a place in displayed his now well-known that celebrations of Holy Communion by which represents 112 denominations. He up with the corruption and abuse of the Christian and a creation ethic for a drug counselling programme. I find it society where no one of the three can be exercized? .... Suffering, sad, female preoccupation with the state of the world women legally ordained abroad are is also president of the Guatemalan power. hardened world. e.g. the S.R.C. has very curious that areas in which the humanity! What are these feelings which they are taught to consider as disgraceful, to and in particular, with the arms race. already beginning to take place in Evangelical Alliance, representing 50 The theologian claims there was recently done that on artificial church has been very vocal over the deny themselves? ... In recent years, be said, he had become England, and in future we shall actively missionary bodies. widespread removal of dishonest officials insemination and invitro, debates. On the years in talking about the costs to society Women dream till they have no longer the strength to dream; those dreams against tremendously interested in peace, encourage such celebrations." Despite the state's determination to in the public service by Montt as he A.I.D. one for example, the commission and the irresponsibility, it is not followed which they so struggle, so honestly, vigorously, conscientiously, and so in vain, yet stemming from the realisation "that we C.E.N. bring Protestantism to Guatemala, the springcleaned. cannot recommend it for Christians. We with any commitment to running service which are their life, without which they could not have lived; those dreams go at last. could wipe each other out in a matter of don't think artificial insemination by in that area. It is now probably the Evangelicals have always been Claims by human rights groups, All their plans and visions seem vanished, and they know not where; gone and they an hour. donor is appropriate for Christians for principle social symptom in Australian marginalized. But, says Guillermo churches and governments that Montt cannot recall them. They do not even rememeber them. And they are left without the many reasons. But nevertheless the Govt society, but my agency in Melbourne is "If Christian doesn't have anything to Galindo, things are changing. "As we allowed his army to massacre anyone food either of reality or of hope. Later in life, they neither desire nor dream, neither has approved it, they are considering the only one running an alcohol and drug say about that, then no-one has". Tibet religious grow, the government listens to us!' suspected of being a subversive has been of activity, nor of love, nor of intellect The last often survives the longest legislation, therefore, here are some programme. He was not a pacifist or a unilateralist And the extraordinary growth of the strongly denied by many Guatemalan In the same year in which she wrote Cassandra, Florence spent a short time training suggested guidelines, ethical guidelines, though, he stressed, and any activities Evangelical Church? "It has resulted from Protestants. Jensen: You are agreeing I think, from the at the Kaiserwerth Deaconess Institution in Germany — her first nursing training. From or limits which will express accountability first thing you said, that one of the disarmament would have to be mutual long and hard work;' continued Mr. They say one of his faults was he was 1854-1856 she was in the Crimea, from which time she achieved her powerful grip on the of govts, accountability of people in important things is at least to preach in and verifiable. But as things stand, "we Galindo. too demanding on his soldiers and too public imagination. She was 'The angel of mercy'. reviving laboratories, accountability of hospital such a way that societal evils are are on the edge of Armageddon". A Presbyterian minister, Rev. Edmundo soft on guerillas and this allowed the In 1860 the Nightingale School and Home for Nurses was opened at St. Thomas staff and accountability of people taking confronted in peoples lives. Thus, the Dr Graham talked of other social and All religious activity in fervently Buddhist Madrid, told me that Guatemala has rebels a chance to rebuild their forces. part in the programme. In a hard and Hospital, London, and in 1861, the Training School for Midwives at King's College Hospital, Tibet was banned during the Cultural emphasis on the social side is not severed political ills contributing to this state, practised greater freedom than some But just how Protestant was Rios tough world, here are some ethical London. Revolution, but monasteries started to from personal ethics, which in among them the hoarding of the world's other Latin American nations. Montt? A friend of the ex-president and a guidelines so that we might live in a less themselves have a massive social content For the rest of her life Florence in truth "took to her bed". She regarded herself as an accept lamas again three years ago, wealth in private bank accounts and "More freedom of thought and more member of his church told me that Rios violent, less harsh, less unequal society. invalid. Yet this did not preclude her from engaging in all manner of interests. She became unemployment. The Church must do all Reuter reported from Lhasa recently. freedom of movement;' says Madrid. Montt's current curriculum vitae lists him The S.R.C. is seeing a distribution, but I Closing Statements a leading figure in the campaign for ret, Ty of sanitation and drainage, especially in India. in its power to provide jobs, he said. Drepung monastery was once the One of the less encouraging signs in as a charismatic Catholic. The late don't think the church welfare agencies Forsyth: The local congregation at Though she never visited the country she was always consulted in any official work in largest monastery in Tibet, with 10,000 All this was far removed from the fiery Guatemala is the frequency that cardinal, Mario Casaereigo, was god- can properly address themselves to these present is often so busy on internal health conditions there. lamas, but many were expelled after the evangelist who made such an impact at Evangelicals divide themselves up. father to one of his sons and Montt was problems because of the time matters that it is hard to look beyond the Florence had an intensely religious nature. She wrote "On February 7th, 1837, God Chinese takeover in 1951 and yet more Haringey in the 50s and Earls Court in the Churches splitting up and going their one of the pall-bearers at the cardinal's commitment they have to practical horizon of immediate family and personal spoke to me and called me to His service." She talked of four such calls at climactic points were forced out after the 1959 anti- 60s. Apart from growing older and own way is common all over Latin funeral. welfare work. needs. I'm not sure what the answers are in her life. Chinese uprising which caused the Dalai bringing up a family, Dr Graham said his America, but each break brings its own to that I think in a sense we've let welfare Lama to flee his homeland. Viewed from the distance of our time we see her as a woman who rejected the life views had been changed by travelling hurt and bitterness. Spiritual and Social Gospels be done "by them out there" just like we which her family and society demanded of her. She refused to submit. Was she wrong? round the world and witnessing some of There are now only 233 monks left at The charismatic and Pentecostal 'Peace Initiative' Jensen: My comment is related to the let the welfare state handle it We've let As we observed the impact of her life on the development of modern nursing, and indeed its suffering. He used to have a tendency Drepung, almost half of them young men influences are a principle cause of church-welfare tension. In some books the welfare church handle it As a parish on the growth of professional life in the public arena for women, we say NO! Indeed it "to paint the Kingdom of God in terms of who took vows since the end of the ban division. In recent days six Anglican we read about the "spiritual gospel" as minister I feel the great need to be is a foolish question to ask. America". on organised religion in 1980, when in Uganda challenged on the narrowness of my Churches have been dismissed by the opposed to the "social gospel"; and the extreme leftist regional leaders were Christians in violence-torn Uganda vision, let alone that of my congregation. And yet, in the terms in which many Christians today outline the biblical notions of Turning to the Mission England Bishop of Guatemala, and the two must be preached together. It seems purged and replaced with moderates. have come up with a unique "peace I suppose what I'm looking for in the 'headship' and 'submission', they would have to say she was wrong. She refused to be crusades, beginning in Bristol on May 12 Presbyterian Church is asking for a to me however that it's a misunderstand- plan" to combat the terror that has been the dutiful submissive daughter which a Christian young woman was expected to be in and ending in Ipswich on July 27, Dr There has been a spectacular religious special presbytery for its charismatic ing, that if you simply preach the so coming years is the development of this Manifesto much further, to enlarge on the the cultural, social and religious tradition of her time, She rejected a life of marriage and Graham revealed that 'they may not be revival in Tibet in the last three years and wing. If this is refused by the synod, then sweeping the country. called spiritual gospel and it is accepted, family for herself. ending then. He was considering further 45 monasteries with about 1,400 lamas separation might result They have decided to evangelize it will have vast social implications. relationship between my love for the invitations and could well return in 1985 are now open. soldiers and policemen, some of whom gospel and caring for people in need. I A film which has been on show lately Educating Rita makes some similar points, The biggest gap in Guatemalan If people accept it and become to "cities like Sheffield". said to be engaged in the brutal feel we all have a lot to learn, and it is though indeed Rita is no Florence! Yet she too rejects the life demanded of her by her But this is minimal compared with the Christianity is between Evangelical, at , Christians, you then begin to have a truth every roadblock in the country. very personally challenging. husband and family. She knows there is something better for her. It is a film which should He also stressed that he was merely a part 2,100 monasteries before the Cultural Anglican and Catholic Churches. There is killings, at commitment You begin to bring into not be missed, and ought to be the focus of study and discussion by all our women's of a British three-year plan of evangelism, Revolution, the majority of which were no co-operation by the larger part of the They also plan to target prisoners in the bear certain moral factors which actually Jensen: I've become more dissatisfied groups. the feature that had attracted him to badly damagkl or destroyed by Red Protestant community with either country's jails in what is being called "The help families to grow and prosper. Robert with the statement, because I have not There is biblical teaching about headship and submission within marriage and outside Mission England when he had first been Guards. Catholics or Anglicans. Good News Project!' mentioned, in talking about the thought about it enough. This statement approached. Manifesto's section on the family, the lack makes me agitated, nervous, and I want of marriage; and there is clear biblical teaching about duty towards one's neighbouis Most of these temples are gone forever, "Our division with the Catholic Church Open Doors, an international ministry of truthfulness in the way the male to challenge it at a number of points, but How is a Christian to proceed in these kinds of difficult circumstances? He went as far as to agree that it was a although one of Tibet's most famous is our Christian witness;' says Edmundo which supplies Bibles and Christian operates. I would have thought the I keep saying that to myself. handicap being an American, and said he monasteries, Gandan near Lhasa, which Madrid. "The Catholic Church is the literature to believers in restricted and scriptures do set out a very good pattern was praying that there would emerge was razed during the Cultural Revolution, establishment, and the Protestants have threatened countries, is providing many Nichols: I think there's a mutual benefit among the British evangelists "a strong is being rebuilt denominations of the Ugandan church for family, if followed it would make a coming up. The church has the benefit in cut themselves off from that. Catholics great deal of difference. evangelist who can preach the Gospel". A new Buddhist seminary is to open in are too much part of the local culture. with some 50,000 St John's Gospels and that the welfare agencies give practical He added that he was sorry to hear of the Lhasa soon to set up training of lamas. Evangelicals are now seen as an option. 300,000 salvation tracts to give away to I know this is very unfashionable to say, insights into the relationship between illness of David Watson, whom he About 200 aspiring lamas and devout Protestants are more credible." the police and soldiers. but I would have thought that alcohol Continued page 11 considered "one of the foremost laymen recently took an examination to evangelists". RT.A.JAN CHURCH RECORD, FEBRUARY 20, 1984-9 C.E.N. enter the institute.

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Classified advert ,— nay be left at the office or phoned THE GOOD READ LETTERS to 264 AN g i, id days before date of noblication about it, viz "Let Him (her) that is ignorant be Doctor of Ministry Mr. Foster certainly makes a valid point when ignorant". Church Services The Bible & I appreciation of the New Testament, (He anonymous, voluntary, personally Turner's early poems are adolescent in he speaks of medical people, dentists and the involved. "Authentic servanthood calls like being given the title "Doctor" when they (Rev.) Neil Baker sought to interweave classical linguistics their cynicism and striving after Dear Sir, r fdreei et, E. M. Blaiklock Bethany House Publishers: are not academically entitled to it But lets face NEM:0.Sn, SI Andrews Mayfield &Sufi and literature, history, and geography; for people with a passion for giving cleverness. There is no sublety in the J. Foster (Letters 23/1/84) claims to be a Maitland Road) Sunday. — Holy Communion I and 9 312 it, for most people a "Doctor" is someone they . 128 pp. $3.50 and he sought to apply to the Bible a whatever without recognition, without rejection of a world that man's "Christian academic." Would he please explain m., Evening Service 115 p.m. Visitors welcome Rector visit when they are not well. Some so called The Bible and 1 finds its centre as the late rigorous academic scrutiny, while always reservation, without reluctance, and to your readers what a "new innovation" is? Penfriends Paul Watkins. technological inventiveness has made "academics" should leave their lofty perches E. M. Blaiklock describes his scholarly remaining aware that his understanding mechanical and artificial, neither in the I can disabuse his mind on a few small MEU3OURNE St Jude s Carlton Near city cootie on, Lytton and mix with the ordinary man and woman and Palmerston Streets Sundays 10 a m Holy Communion, 7 companionship with the Bible, and his of the Scriptures must be capable of details. I know only three Sydney clergy who Dear Sir, expose of relationships as fake, dull, who could not care less about such silly p Evening Worship Minister. Peter Adam V16110. personal indebtedness to the Book that being able to be convincingly preached: empty, and time-wasting. There is no have completed a doctorate of ministry. debates of overgrown schoolboys. We are Ghanaian correspondents and we COMO Bishop Dudley Foord compled one from Fuller are really interested in your country, so sir or gave his faith "a word to lean on" for over the test of the pulpit was decisive.) affirmation. He is attracted to that which I wonder what Our Lord makes of all this Theological Seminary, U.S.A. He had a master madam we are applying to your firm so that COORPAROO. St. Step,. If ristaine Cavenish and fifty years. is depressing in life 10 am and 9 am Holy Blaiklock's approach to Biblical study is of science and a bachelor of divinity degree business of being concerned about what you will try and publish our name and address Chatsworth Roads Viso, human qualifications a man or woman has, Communion 7 pie • • Ili- for Rev Ken Baker mapped oat in the chapters in the book "These are your first lessons in living. among other academic qualifications. The in your daily newspaper or magazine for us so personally I fear that some in the Church have which are given over to his particular To begin we drag you head-first from Revs. David Duchesne and Barry Thiering that we can get penfriends in your country become more concerned with degrees and intimacies with Luke-Acts, John, and your shelter, completed the same degree of master of San either male or female. doctorates than they have with preaching the Psalms. How freshly he writes of his Francisco Theological Seminary. Both had the Accommodation away from food and warmth. "Good News". One is left to wonder whether NAME: Miss Christina L. Dadzie I degree of arts and other academic personal encounter with these books! We cut you apart from your only perhaps it is not true that, for some, salvation ADDRESS: P.O. Box 1145, Cape Coast, qualifications. I hope to begin the San Written in smart prose, with the known friend ... is by "degrees." Ghana. 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ChfiSlian Female. offered canidate must go to the U.S.A. for a summer NAME: Miss Betty Brown accommodation in modern home Turreinurra Own room with informative. Here is a book for the person There is the same street imagery, the The ACR moves from strength to strength, study facilities. nominal rental, references required term at the Seminary, a properly accredited ADDRESS: P.O. Box 1005, Cape Coast, who has an interest in the careful reading same free verse and 'pop' patterning, and attracting a full page of interesting letters. REPLY. "Student Ary onefeelation' PO Box 20e NoftM1 Hyde degree-granting institution. That done, the Surprise, surprise! We are now in the firing line Ghana. NSW 2113 of the Bible in which a scholar describes without restriction. And those types are the same knife. But now the knife, which candidate gets to work on a long dissertation, of the Anti-Discrimination Boa:d which SEX: Female his personal encounter with the Word of rare indeed. "Swindoll challenges, cuts apart humanism and stabs those also under supervision. It is a long, difficult and AGE: 24 Years requires "further editorial comment, articles or Life, how he learned to read it dissects the implications of true Position Vac ant who see man as no more than atoms, is costly process. The course fee alone is 52700. correspondence on the subject of the Board!' HOBBIES: Music, Swimming, Baseball, intellingently, and of its impact upon servanthood so that it can be pursued, wielded with more finese as it slices away I know at least one who has failed after all this. Are we a to enter into a dialectical discussion Photos, Travel with Movies. I I heart and mind. and inspires: "We are never more God- those layers which conceal Not all students are fortunate enough to be of the pros and cons of what is already Thanks in advance and hope this my humble REQUIRED ORGANIST to pNy Electric Organ (2 keyboards) like than we give." 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Personal and David Fry's letter (23/1/84) could not have Christ: accredited doctorate of ministry are simply been more timely, reminding us that it is the snatches of autobiography, of insight into anecdotal, conversational with a neat turn keeping in touch with student needs without duty of Christians to understand the twentieth century Christian personalities, of phrase, humorous and quotable — "If Jesus was thirty-two today we'd FREE AD Improving Your Serve lowering standards. implications of government policies, and that of excited comment on particular books such is Swindoll's style. He writes as a have to end it all. Heretic, The turorials, I am told, may be held, as they we should "as responsible members of this Thls WMce to readers is e form or free advertising A person of the Bible, and of description of Charles Swindoll Hodder and Stoughton man challenged by his message. 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