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The Admiral Nimitz Historic Site THE ADMIRAL NIMITZ HISTORIC SITE - NATIONAL MUSEUM OF THE PACIFIC WAR Centerfor Paefic War Studies Fredericksburg, Texas Interview with Norman Dclisle U.S. Navy, USS Oakland & USS Benner Interview With Norman Delisle This is Chuck Nichols. It is March 15, 2001. I am sitting in the Nimitz Hotel with Norman Delisle, who is going to relate some of his experiences from World War II. Mr. Nichols: Mr. Delisle, would you tell us when and where you were born? Mr. Delisle: Fitchburg, Massachusetts, March 2, 1921. It’s in the northern-central part of Massachusetts. Mr. Nichols: Massachusetts isn’t that big, so you weren’t too far everything. Did you go to school there? Mr. Delisle: Yes, I graduated from high school. Mr. Nichols: And your parents were from that area? Mr. Delisle: They were. Mr. Nichols: After you graduated from high school, did you enlist in the Navy? Had the second World War begun yet? Mr. Delisle: I worked for a year, and right after December 7th of ‘41 my brother and myself and quite a few of my friends, we got together and went down to join the Navy. A week later they were going to send us to Newport, Rhode Island. We got down as far as Springfield, Mass., at the swearing in ceremony, and they sent us back home because there was no room in the training station. They called us all back January 5th of 1942. Mr. Nichols: And you had your basic training in Rhode Island, then? Mr. Delisle: Newport, Rhode Island. Mr. Nichols: And how long did your basic training last? Mr. Delisle: Three weeks. Mr. Nichols: What was it composed of? Just a little marching and drilling, or Mr. Delisle: It was a condensed course. It usually took up to three months, so it was just a few seamanship materials, and most of it was our injections. A little drill training, and that was about it. Mr. Nichols: What kind of quarters did you have there? Mr. Delisle: Just regular barracks. One on top of the other, bunk beds. Mr. Nichols: Two high, three high? Mr. Delisle: Oh, they were four high. Three and four. After awhile, I was assigned to the Boston Navy Yard to await assignment. Mr. Nichols: How long were you there? Mr. Delisle: While we were waiting there were a few of us they sent to Wentworth Institute for training on diesel engines and air conditioning. That took place in about two or three months. After that they transferred me down to Newport, Rhode island, again. They were just completing a training range for gunnery. They made instructors out of us, and we used to spend seven days a week instructing crews from different ships that were anywhere near the area: Boston, New York, Connecticut, anywhere. We used to train them individually for four days on 30 caliber, 50 caliber, 20 millimeter, one point one, and 40 millimeter guns. Mr. Nichols: Where did you get your initial training for gunnery? Mr. Delisle: Right then and there. On the job training. Mr. Nichols: You moved right into an instructor’s spot then. Mr. Delisle: Yes Mr. Nichols: How long did you spend there before you were assigned to a ship or to another station? Mr. Delisle: About eleven months. In the meantime I was requesting a transfer to combat. Because I had a brother that was on a ship, the USS San Diego, and I wanted to find out if I could get on a ship and somehow run across him. It took almost eight months to get out of that place. I finally got transferred to California, to Vallejo, and I was to pick up the USS Oakland, but just before I reported to the USS Oakland I was at the receiving station on Treasure Island, and I came down with—they diagnosed it as rheumatic fever. So I spent three months in the hospital. Mr. Nichols: In the Treasure Island hospital in San Francisco Bay? Mr. Delisle: Right. After that, I had six weeks down in Santa Cruz in California in a convalescent hospital, where they wanted to give me a disability pension and a disability discharge. But I requested to go back to active duty, and in order to do that, the captain in charge of the hospital had to write a letter or contact Washington, D.C., at the Bureau of Personnel, and get a special request for me to go back to active duty. Which I did. I reported to Vallejo, the Mare Island Ship Yard, to the USS Oakland. Mr. Nichols: So your final diagnosis wasn’t rheumatic fever, then. Delisle - Mr. Delisle: They found out four years ago it was ankylosing spondylitis, which was worse. But I also had applied for flight training, and I was approved for it. But when my orders came through to report to Squntum Naval Air Station, I was in the hospital on Treasure Island, so they had sent the orders back. So that was the end of the flight training. We left Mare Island in October and we went to Pearl Harbor to join the Pacific Fleet, on the Oakland. From there we sorteed to the Gilbert Islands as an initial bombardment of Tarawa in the Gilberts, and at the same time we were attacking islands in the Marshalls. After we got through through, after landing successfully, we went back to Pearl Harbor. Mr. Nichols: How long did you spend out there in the Gilberts? Mr. Delisle: About two or three months. While we were there, one of the ships with us, the USS Independence, was torpedoed by a torpedo that missed us by approximately 200 feet. It his the USS Independence and it crippled it, because it hit the after engine room. Mr. Nichols: How long were you off of Tarawa bombarding the island? Mr. Delisle: We used to strike the island one day and go back again the next day. In the meantime the airplanes were bombarding it, too. When the initial invasion started, we stood off to protect them because they were sending planes from Majuro to attack the fleet and the landing craft. Mr. Nichols: When did the initial invasion take place, do you recall? Mr. Delisle: The exact date, no. I think it was in December of ‘43. Mr. Nichols: And the whole landing operation lasted about three days? Mr. Delisle: Oh, it lasted a little longer than that. It lasted at least a week. Mr. Nichols: But most of the fatalities came during the first Mr. Delisle: The first three or five days. Mr. Nichols: Then you headed back to Pearl? Mr. Delisle: We went back to Pearl and that was the last time we saw Pearl Harbor or any land for six months. Mr. Nichols: Did you get a little R&R when you went back to Pearl? Did you get off the ship? Mr. Delisle: No, they sent me to a school for the Pacific Fleet. I was in Honolulu at an advanced training course to become an instructor, a little deeper than I used to be. After that we Ddisle - .1 went out with the fleet, Task Force 38. We crisscrossed and struck just about every island in the Pacific. So I was in every combat after Guadalcanal, all the way in to Japan. Mr. Nichols: You were at Guadalcanal also? Mr. Delisle: No, that one I missed. The Gilberts were the first, Tarawa was my first one. Then we island hopped to New Guinea, to Truk, Palalu, Eniwetok, we hit just about all of them. In fact, we did hit every one of them. We were going to invade Truk, the Japanese so- called “Pearl Harbor,” but we sank the ships in the harbor so we didn’t have to go in. Then after that, we got involved with Saipan, Tinian, Guam, and Chichijima, and Iwo Jima, and like I said, we hit every island in the Pacific. Mr. Nichols: When you were at Chi Chi Jima was the San Jacinto there with you when George Bush. Is this when he got shot down? Mr. Delisle: George Bush was off of, around Truk. I remember the radio communication between submarines and the planes that were keeping an observation for Bush. We knew just when the rescue was accomplished. Mr. Nichols: But you weren’t directly involved in this rescue, defending him from Japanese forces. Mr. Delisle: No, we weren’t. Sub crews had that under control. Mr. Nichols: Were you attacked by any other torpedo planes other than the one that missed you and hit one of your sister ships? Mr. Delisle: Oh, yes. We were attacked when the New Lexington came out, in one of the attacks on the Marshall Islands. they used us as a decoy to protect the rest of the task group. We were supposed to stand by the New Lexington at night, it was under a night attack. A plane came in a dropped a torpedo, and it missed us and it hit the New Lexington. They sent the New Lexington back to Pearl Harbor, and we stayed out there. Kwajalein, Majuro, Eniwetok, every one of the islands. Mr. Nichols: So the Oakland pretty well got around then. It never received any damage of any big consequence? Mr. Delisle: Not of any big consequence. We had shrapnel damage. Mr. Nichols: Ever struck by a kamikaze, or attacked by a kamikaze? Mr. Delisle: We were attacked by them, but we were never hit. Incidentally, my brother was on a ship which was identical to mine, and there were only three of them afloat at that time.
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