Roinn Cosanta. Bureau of Military History, 1913-21
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ROINN COSANTA. BUREAU OF MILITARY HISTORY, 1913-21. STATEMENT BY WITNESS DOCUMENT NO. W.S. 667 Witness Patrick Lawson, 447 Mourne Road, North Crumlin, Dublin. Identity. 2nd Lieut. 1st Battalion, Dublin Brigade, 1917 Member of the Squad, Dublin, 1921. Subject. (a) National activities, Dublin, 1913-1921, and Liverpool, 1918. (b) The Squad, Dublin, 1921. Conditions, if any, Stipulated by Witness. Nil File No S.1581 Form BSM.2 CONTENTS. Page. 1. I.R.B. associations 1 2. Volunteer activities in England 2 3. Raids for arms 3 4. Rifles and ammunition seized at Collinstown Aerodrome 4 5. Planned raid on Anglo-American Oil Company Depot 4 6. Raid for powder on Marks of Capel St. 4 7. Documents removed from 44 Parnell Square. 5 8. Letter to Company O/C. suspected trap. 5 9. Fish-plates removed from railway line. 6 10. Armistice Parade, 1919 6 11. Bloody Sunday 7 12. Raid on Company Headquarters and arrest. 7 13. Ambush at Crossguns Bridge. 10 14. Raid on Hollybank Telephone Exchange. 11 15. The Squad 12 16. Detective Officer Coffey 13 17. Proposed derailment of train near Croke Park. 14. 18. Capture of armoured car 14 19. Burning of Custom House 16 STATEMENT BY PATRICK LAWSON, 447 Mourne Road, North Crumlin. Dublin. I joined the Irish Citizen Army in the year 1913 under Captain White, but did not remain long in that organisation. Captain White was attacked one evening by a number of policemen. His comrades made no attempt to come to his rescue, and when I saw the type they were I severed my connection with the Citizen Army. I was not a member of the Irish Volunteers in Easter Week, 1916, but, knowing that the rebellion was on, I reported to the G.P.O. of my own accord and was given the job of helping to erect barricades from the Imperial Hotel across the street to the Metropole. That was my only association with the rebellion. Following the reorganisation of the Volunteers in 1917 I joined B/ Company of the 3rd Battalion, Dublin Brigade. I remained with that unit for about six weeks when I was trans-ferredto F/ Company of the 1st Battalion. Liam archer was Coy. Captain at that period. I cannot recall the names of the other Company officers. During the years 1917 and 1918 nothing of importance took place other than drilling, attending lectures and collecting Funds. I remained with the company all the time, and in 1920 I was appointed 2nd Lieutenant. I.R.B. associations. About June 1919 I was sworn in as a member of the Irish Republican Brotherhood by Martin Conlon. I became a member of the Brothers Sheares Circle, of which Martin Conlon was Centre. Nothing of importance transpired during my association with the I.R.B. I attended all the meetings and listened to discussions 2. Some of these discussions concerned the military policy of the Volunteer organisation aid the progress that was being made in Volunteer circles. Nothing of a controversial nature came up for discussion. Volunteer activities in England. In the early months of 1918 I crossed over to Liverpool to take up employment on the erection of a military aerodrome at Aintree. When I arrived there I discovered a number of Irishmen who had served in the Volunteers, and, like myself, had taken up employment in England. These included Frank Gascoigne of Blackrock, Sean Hynes of Lusk, Hughie Early of Dublin, Jack Early, a 1916 man, Jimmy Green of Dublin, and Mick Murphy of Dublin, another 1916 man. After about a fortnight's residence in England we organised ourselves into a Volunteer company with Frank Gascoigne as captain, myself as 1st Lieutenant, and Mick Murphy 2nd Lieutenant. I should mention that before we organise ourselves we had to seek sanction from G.H.Q. in Dublin. This came through in a short time. We decided that we would not ally ourselves with the prominent I.R.B. men in England, but that we would act on our own initiative concerning the activities of our company. The first operation we planned was a raid on an Officers' Training Corps camp in the vicinity of Everton football ground. In this raid we captured 13 service rifles and military or rounds of .22 ammunition equip-ment,including about 10,000 15,000 and some telescopes. There was only one watchman guarding the place and we succeeded in getting over the wall. We took the stuff away and had it conveyed to Bootle where it was stored in the houses of Miss McNance and Sheila Brown. It was later transferred to Dublin by Neil Kerr. The raid was given a lot of publicity in the English papers, and Scotland Yard officers were brought in to 3. investigate the matter. Inquiries led them to the lodgings of some of our men, Messrs. Early, Green and Jackson. These Volunteers were not in their lodgings when the two Scotland Yard men called, but their landlady was told that when the three men returned that evening she was to tell them that they were not to go out again until the Scotland Yard men had a chat with them. When the Volunteers returned and were told by their landlady that two gentlemen had called and wanted/ to have a chat with them they became suspicious and crossed over to Dublin that very night. When the Scotland Yard men learned of their departure suspicion became general on the remainder of us. We saw then that we could be of very little use and become disorganised. In my own case, on returning to my digs one evening, I was told by my landlady that two gentlemen who appeared to be police detectives had called and wanted to see me. As a result of this I took the boat to Dublin that night. Raids for arms. During the month of January 1919, we raided many private houses in our area for arms and ammunition. The majority of the guns taken were obsolete; some of them were merely souvenirs which were of no value to us, although of some sentimental value to the owners. In one case my Company O/C. of Paddy Holohan, instructed me to return three or four theso souvenir guns to an ex-British army major from whom we had taken them. The major was delighted to get them back and, in fact, invited us into his house to partake of his hospitality. This we declined, and he said to me "I know that you are Volunteers, and if you want my assistance, I will be only too glad to give it at any time". I should mention that at least four to six revolvers and ammunition were always stored in my house. When they were 4. for required company operations I took them to the appointed rendezvous and distributed them to the men taking part. Rifles and anmunitjon seized at Collinstown Aerodrome. Rifles and ammunition seized at Collinstown Aerodrome in March 1919, were packed by myself and others in the basement of 41 Parnell Square and dispatched to the Cork Volunteers. Planned raid on Anglo-American Oil Co. Depot. The Anglo-American Oil Company depot at the North Wall was guarded by a. party of from 16 to 20 British soldiers. It was decided to disarm this guard and seize their rifles and ammunition. The plan was that about 18 of us under Commandant Paddy Holohan would carry out this raid. Our instructions were to steal up to the sentry at dusk on a given evening and disarm him. By taking him by surprise it was felt that it would be easy to seize the remainder of the rifles lying on the ship. This, however, was conditional on the clear understanding that no attempt was to be made should an armoured car arrive on the scene. It was customary for such an armoured vehicle to be in the vicinity of that place practically all the time. We assembled as instructed, but when we got near the depot and were getting into position we discovered that the armoured car had arrived, We considered the idea of taking control of the armoured car if the crew left it, but Paddy Holohan said that his instructions were very definite that no action should be taken if the armoured car was there. Accordingly the raid was called off. Raid for powder on Marks of Capel St. In the autumn of 1920 a raid was carried out by my company on Marks of Capel St. for a quantity of black powder which was required by headquarters. The manager refused us admission, and said that he had no black powder on the premises. We told him that we could not accept his word and that we would have to 5. raid the place. The result of our search was that we confiscated one and a half kegs of the powder, which we took with us and stored in Tom Merrigan's in Church St. We later transferred it to our dump in Glasnevin Cemetery. Documents removed from 44 Parnell Souare. One evening early in 1920, while attending a signalling class at 41 Parnell Square, a messenger arrived and instructed me to report to 44 Parnell Square. On arriving at No. 44 I met Dick McKee, Peadar Clancy and Sean Treacy. Dick McKee told me that he had a lot of documents in a house in Dorset St. and that he had been tipped off that a raid was going to be made on the premises. He asked me to have these documents removed straight away and placed in safe keeping.