Joseph Farman Interviewed by Paul Merchant
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IN PARTNERSHIP WITH NATIONAL LIFE STORIES AN ORAL HISTORY OF BRITISH SCIENCE Joseph Farman Interviewed by Paul Merchant C1379/07 © The British Library Board http://sounds.bl.uk This interview and transcript is accessible via http://sounds.bl.uk . IMPORTANT Every effort is made to ensure the accuracy of this transcript, however no transcript is an exact translation of the spoken word, and this document is intended to be a guide to the original recording, not replace it. Should you find any errors please inform the Oral History curators. © The British Library Board. Please refer to the Oral History curators at the British Library prior to any publication or broadcast from this document. Oral History The British Library 96 Euston Road London NW1 2DB United Kingdom +44 (0)20 7412 7404 [email protected] © The British Library Board http://sounds.bl.uk National Life Stories would like to thank Bob Wells for his comments and corrections to this transcript. © The British Library Board http://sounds.bl.uk The British Library National Life Stories Interview Summary Sheet Title Page Ref no: C1379/07 Collection title: An Oral History of British Science Interviewee’s Farman Title: Mr surname: Interviewee’s Joseph Sex: Male forename: Occupation: Atmospheric Date and place of 1930, Norwich, scientist birth: Norfolk Mother’s occupation: Nurse Father’s occupation: Builder/engineer Dates of recording, Compact flash cards used, tracks (from – to): 19/2/10 (track 1-3), 2/3/10 (track 4-6), 12/3/10 (track 7-9), 26/3/10 (track 10-14), 13/12/10 (track 15-16), 1/4/11 (track 17) Location of Department of Chemistry, University of Cambridge interview: Name of interviewer: Dr Paul Merchant Type of recorder: Marantz PMD661 with lapel mics Recording format : WAV 24 bit 48kHz Total no. of tracks: 17 Mono or stereo: Stereo Total Duration: 13 hr. 38 min. 21 sec. Additional material: Copyright/ Open, © assigned to The British Library Clearance: Interviewer’s comments: © The British Library Board http://sounds.bl.uk Joseph Farman Page 1 C1379/07 Track 1 [Track 1] Could I start by asking you when and where you were born? Oh, I don’t really know but I was told in Norwich and Norfolk [laughs]. And do you remember having a sort of earliest memory that –? The earliest memory? Oh, dear. Er, nothing very interesting except my elder – my sister who is a few years old than me did once put a clockwork train on my head [both laugh] and it wound up the hair and my mother had to teach her not to do such things and rubbed a rather red curious ointment over my head – Oh, really. Which my sister obviously thought it was blood [laughs]. I suppose that’s the one, I must have been about five I suppose but I don’t really remember very much then, thereafter, hmmm … Thank you. Could we talk about your parents? I’ll take them in turn. Your father, could you –? Well, he fought in the ‘14 – ‘18 war and was a prisoner of war with the Germans. Joined the Home Guard in 1939 [laughs] – Right, yeah. By the time I really knew him he was a self-employed builder – Right. And he’d done many things before that. He’d worked for Bolton & Pole’s [ph] and very nearly died on the R101 because he was working – due to work on that at the time it crashed, but luckily he didn’t go or I wouldn’t be here. © The British Library Board http://sounds.bl.uk Joseph Farman Page 2 C1379/07 Track 1 And your mother? Oh, just a very nice woman [laughs]. She was a nurse at one stage while father was fighting in the war and then when she got married she just looked after the children and the home. How did they meet? Oh, long before the war I think when they lived together in south Norfolk, hmmm, I never really heard very much about that [laughs]. Did you –? I’m going to ask you about your grandparents, and I’ll do that systematically as well, I mean I realise some of them you may not have known or some you may not have had much contact with but if the – if you didn’t, if there were any stories about them in the family that are significant then that would be interesting as well. So if we could start with your paternal grandfather. Well, he was the – those two grandparents I did actually meet. My mother’s grandparents I never met although we have sort of quite a big family, many aunts and uncles on both sides. They were very old by the time I knew them, my gosh, he must have been seventy-odd, you know, given the war and various things which happened. My parents married fairly late in life and I guess – yeah, so there were people in a sense I never – you know, you were taken to see them and they were friendly enough but I don’t think one could say one ever had a sort of rapport with them, no … Would you be able to say whether they had any influence over you in terms of your interests? I should say no really, I mean it was a different world. Oh, my parents’ world was a different world in a sense and, erm,yeah. And the grandparents that you didn’t meet – © The British Library Board http://sounds.bl.uk Joseph Farman Page 3 C1379/07 Track 1 Yes. [03:40] I wondered whether there were any stories of them in the family about what they did or who they were. No, not – I’m ashamed to say I couldn’t even tell you what his trade was. The other grandfather was very interesting actually because my sister lived for many years with her husband in Salhouse and the biggish house and when they – their children were grown up they wanted a smaller house so they bought the house next door. And you’ll never guess what they were handed with the deeds, it was my grandfather’s apprenticeship certificate. That’s where he’d served his apprenticeship [laughs]. Gosh, small county. That’s what his apprenticeship was from, yes. Sorry, his apprenticeship was for –? As a wheelwright but he was a carpenter and a thatcher and all sorts of things. Did he work across Norfolk? He – yes, I suppose so, fairly – but mainly in the Broads district which was where reeds were cut and so on but they were all – oh, it was the Norfolk reed in those days, now it’s Spanish reed [laughs] or Turkish or something. So he was involved in, not in the cutting, but in the thatching of the – Well, I think they did everything, you know, in the firm I think they sort of started life as collecting – you know, cutting the reeds and bringing them into the place and trimming them and all the rest of it, then gradually progressed to being a person who could actually do it. © The British Library Board http://sounds.bl.uk Joseph Farman Page 4 C1379/07 Track 1 Yes. And it was wonderful trade to watch actually, I can remember as a child sort of watching these people with their curved hazel twigs and just sort of putting them in to hold the thing down, and it looked as though it would blow apart immediately but it seemed to be very [laughs] – Yes. Very windproof in fact. [05:22] Do you remember your family home in – presumably in Norfolk? Yes, just outside Norwich in Hellesdon in north Norwich. Yes, I suppose so, because in those days it was long before buses had penetrated out that far, so we walked into school and I guess we just roamed in those days, no-one sort of thought there were nasty men standing in the street [laughs]. You had the complete freedom of Norfolk more or less if you climbed on your bicycle, that was – yeah, as I say, it’s a shame the world has changed in all these ways, which … Which is better [ph]. Could you –? I don’t know whether you remember it well enough, but if you can could you take me on a tour of your family home? So imagine you’ve gone into the front door, room by room, if you could describe it. [laughs] Room by room, well, that’s very curious, I’ll try. It was – I think father built it actually [laughs]. It was a bungalow, the back door opened onto, I suppose you would call it a parlour, and then it had an oven and a fire in it, and that fire drove the boiler for the main hot water supply. Just to the right of that there was a washroom with a boiler, you know, one of these fantastic old fashioned boilers, and beyond that there was a small bedroom. Then the other way, there were two bedrooms front and © The British Library Board http://sounds.bl.uk Joseph Farman Page 5 C1379/07 Track 1 back at the end, and then a big sitting room and a bay window in the front with a hall, L-shaped hall, through from the back door to the front door. I see. And do you remember how each room was decorated? Oh [laughs]. Well, I did – I suppose I did decorate some of those actually – no, I can’t really remember very much detail about it I’m afraid. Thank you.