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Tuesday Volume 616 1 November 2016 No. 54 HOUSE OF COMMONS OFFICIAL REPORT PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES (HANSARD) Tuesday 1 November 2016 © Parliamentary Copyright House of Commons 2016 This publication may be reproduced under the terms of the Open Parliament licence, which is published at www.parliament.uk/site-information/copyright/. 759 1 NOVEMBER 2016 760 that the first 24 hours are absolutely vital, and we are House of Commons already taking steps to provide vulnerable prisoners with immediate mental health support. Next year, we Tuesday 1 November 2016 will bring out a strategy on women offenders. Maria Caulfield: Given the level of violence in Lewes The House met at half-past Eleven o’clock prison over the weekend, will the Secretary of State update the House on what progress has been made to PRAYERS secure the prison, and what steps are being taken to increase staffing levels to prevent this from happening again? [MR SPEAKER in the Chair] Elizabeth Truss: The incident at HMP Lewes has been resolved and the prison remains secure with no threat to the public. The prisons Minister, my hon. Oral Answers to Questions Friend the Member for East Surrey (Mr Gyimah), spoke to the governor, Jim Bourke, offering support for him and all his staff. We are going to make sure that we JUSTICE have sufficient staff in that prison. I shall have more to say about staffing when we launch the White Paper. The Secretary of State was asked— Helen Jones: The number of front-line prison officers has fallen by over 30% under this Government, and the Prison Safety Secretary of State’s own Department’s statistics show a correlation between those cuts and increased levels of 1. Victoria Prentis (Banbury) (Con): What steps her violence in prisons. Does the right hon. Lady now Department is taking to improve safety in prisons. accept that what she has announced goes no way towards [906937] solving these problems and that there needs to be a thorough investigation so that we can have the safe 12. Maria Caulfield (Lewes) (Con): What steps her levels of staffing required in our prisons? Department is taking to improve safety in prisons. [906949] Elizabeth Truss: I have acknowledged that we have a serious issue. I think we have to recognise that there 16. Helen Jones (Warrington North) (Lab): What have been a number of causes. The prison and probation steps her Department is taking to improve safety in ombudsman said that the emergence of dangerous prisons. [906954] psychoactive substances was a game changer for prison security. We are taking measures to put in place proper The Lord Chancellor and Secretary of State for Justice testing for that, which we announced in September. I (Elizabeth Truss): Last week’s violence statistics show acknowledge that there is an issue with staffing, which the very serious issues we have in our prisons, including is why I have already taken steps in 10 of the most a 43% rise in the number of attacks on officers. This is challenging prisons to increase staffing levels, and why unacceptable, and I am determined to tackle it. I have we are due to do more in the White Paper. already announced an investment of £14 million in 10 of our most challenging prisons, and I shall say more Mr David Hanson (Delyn) (Lab): In addition to the with the launch of our White Paper shortly. staffing cuts mentioned by my hon. Friend the Member for Warrington North (Helen Jones), there is the problem Several hon. Members rose— of prison officer retention. The 400 by which the right hon. Lady has said she is going to increase staff numbers Mr Speaker: Order. Just before we take the question, are being lost because of the number of people who are I am very pleased to announce that today we are joined leaving. Experienced staff are leaving, and experienced by Lobsang Sangay, the Sikyong or Prime Minister of prisoners are now running prisons. the Tibetan Government in exile. It is a pleasure and a privilege, Sir, to welcome you to the House of Commons. Elizabeth Truss: The right hon. Gentleman is right that we need to make sure that, as well as recruiting Victoria Prentis: What an honour that is, Mr Speaker. prison officers, we are also retaining our fantastic prison We welcome the Secretary of State’s commitment to officers. At every prison I visit, I meet fantastic people prison reform, but those sitting on the Justice Select who have come into the service to turn people’s lives Committee are very concerned about the recent statistics around. I want to encourage more people to become that she mentioned, not just in relation to the safety of prison officers, which is why we launched a programme prison workers, but in respect of vulnerable prisoners. to bring former armed service personnel into the service. What steps is she going to take to improve assessment We will announce more about recruitment shortly. and screening, so that those people can be identified at the beginning of their sentence? Robert Neill (Bromley and Chislehurst) (Con): As part of taking those important steps, will the Secretary Elizabeth Truss: My hon. Friend is absolutely right. I of State revisit and act upon the Select Committee’s am extremely concerned about the level of self-harm, recommendation that we should be able transparently which is particularly high in the women’s estate. We know to measure the performance of the National Offender 761 Oral Answers 1 NOVEMBER 2016 Oral Answers 762 Management Service by publishing and making available Mr Speaker: I am extremely grateful to the Secretary the key data on indicators of disorder; staffing and of State. I call Fiona Mactaggart. turnover, and the reasons for turnover; its performance ratings, including those for individual prisons; and Deaths in Custody Suites activity—the amount of time each prisoner is out of cell or in cell, and what they are doing? 2. Fiona Mactaggart (Slough) (Lab): How many deaths have occurred in (a) custody suites operated by G4S and Elizabeth Truss: The Select Committee Chairman is (b) other custody suites in the last three years. [906938] absolutely right that we need clear and transparent data and metrics to be able to understand what is happening The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Justice in our prison system. I will outline more detail on that (Mr Sam Gyimah): G4S has not operated court custody issue when we launch the White Paper. suites in England and Wales since 2011. Yasmin Qureshi (Bolton South East) (Lab): Suicides Fiona Mactaggart: Very vulnerable people are held in in prisons are at record levels, and self-harm and violence custody suites, and many have committed suicide. That are soaring. The situation in women’s prisons is worse translates into the presence of such people in prisons, than it was a decade ago. The Government’s own statistics where, as the Secretary of State has just acknowledged, show that the rate of deaths in England and Wales has there have been more deaths in custody than there have risen to almost one a day—a record high of 324 in the been for many years. More women are killing themselves last 12 months. Does the Secretary of State recognise than at any time since the Corston report. When we that cutting staff and prison budgets while the number know what has gone wrong from the reports of coroners’ of people behind bars grows unchecked has created a courts or the Corston report, which have given us real toxic mix of violence, death and human misery? advice on what ought to happen, why is it not happening? Has the Minister read those coroners’ reports? Elizabeth Truss: I agree with the hon. Lady that we need to act on those very problematic statistics, and in Mr Speaker: Order. Wereally do need to make progress. particular to deal with the high levels of self-harm and This is very slow. suicide. One of the 10 prisons to which we have given additional money for staffing is a women’s prison. We Mr Gyimah: All deaths in custody are a tragedy. They are looking more widely at how we can ensure that are fully investigated by the independent prisons and women offenders are given the support that they need, probation ombudsman and are subject to coroners’ because many come into prison with mental health inquests. As the Secretary of State pointed out, a number issues and many have suffered abuse in the past. I want of women in prison have been victims of crime themselves to ensure that those offenders have the support that will and are incredibly vulnerable members of society. As enable them to turn their lives around. well as modernising the women’s prison estate, we are looking into diversion tactics to ensure that those women do not end up in the criminal justice system in the first Yasmin Qureshi: I hear what the Secretary of State place. has to say about funding for the 10 prisons, but Pentonville, where only last week there was a stabbing and two Mr Philip Hollobone (Kettering) (Con): Which country people were injured, is not one of them, and the events in the world has the fewest deaths in custody, and what that took place at Lewes prison at the weekend also lessons are we learning from that country? underlined the problem of prison understaffing. John Attard, of the Prison Governors Association, has written that we need Mr Gyimah: I am afraid I cannot name the country with the fewest deaths in custody, but what I can say is “more than the….400 extra officers in just 10 prisons.” that we in this country work to create decent and Will the Secretary of State listen to what is being said by humane prisons, and we are a signatory to the relevant that association, and by the Prison Officers Association, United Nations protocols.