1936 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 4323 By Mr. BROOKS: A bill

RELIEF AND CHARITY IN THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA shell-shocked. Why can he not get a job?H They said, The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Mississippi [Mr. "Congressman, 'we will get him a job within the next few DuNN], under special order, is recognized for 20 minutes. days." I have worked and fought day in and day out to get Mr. DUNN of Mississippi. Mr. Speaker, perhaps I am that man, by name, Everett Parker, a job, and today he is somewhat presumptuous in attacking the matter that I have without it, even though any number of people were put to in my mind and heart today. Perhaps it might somehow work during the flood period. But that is only part of it. become a matter of personality between myself and my natu­ I saw this man's wife, who is about 26 years old, with those ral, innate emotions and passions, and the unadulterated four little babies huddling close to her lap, living there in the lamplight of poverty. unfitness of some authorities in the District of Columbia so far as concerns the matter of charity. And, too, it might This man Parker of whom I speak, her husband, is not appear more like a freshman question, but, to say the least, a chap that could become an executive. He perhaps could it is one that bas encou..'1tered the depths of my soul for more not do ordinary clerical work which oftentimes we find men than 90 days. It is a matter that has caused me to respond can do under some circumstances. In fact, I found' that definitely, -almost daily, because of some people in the District he could not even read or write. I found further on day be­ who seem to discount the importance of a person looking for fore yesterday that this man from NewPort, Tenn., about bread. I ask that you follow ·me just for the next few mo­ whom I am speaking and .who served his time in the World ments and·I shall tell you about a place in the city of Wash­ War, went to an executive in the District of Columbia who ington and paint to you a picture so- appalling, so miserable, said, "You are from Tennessee and you ought to be back there on a farm." God. knows, when I beard that, I won­ so absolutely shameful, as it concerns our Nation in the dered how many other big executives in the city of Wash­ matter of charity, that I am sure you will forgive me if and ington ought to be back on the farm following a hard-tail in the event I have overindulged your patience. mule. [Applause.] - I have n·ot been boisterous since I became a freshman in Well, time passed. I spoke to them about the appropria­ this Congress. I have tried so much to be patient. I have tions we had made insofar as charities are concerned, hav­ been the recipient of so many kind and courteous favors ing at the same time the picture of this little woman and from my senior colleagues until it makes me feel fainty when her babies sleeping, if you please, in two smutty three­ I attack questions which, as a matter of fact, have been gone quarter beds in one little room, where there were no sani­ over from time to time in the House. tary facilities; no running water, all huddled there together. I want you to go with me to a place down at 311 D Street This family is living there today. That is the reason I NW. , in the city of Washington. I want you to keep that asked you to take the address. I found, as I say, that this address in your minds, if you will, please-311 D Street little woman was about to become a mother again. I imme­ NW.-and while I shall not in any way try to emulate any diately rushed down to the place where the man Everett masterful touch of the brush of an Angelo, I do want to fix Parker had told me they threw him out, the Public Health it, from a common-sense standpoint, in your minds, as one unit, because he came and dared ask tha-t his wife be taken who believes in pure, undefiled humanitarianism. And to from a manger into the comfort of the society supposed to those of you who believe that people in this country, native­ be civilized and there allowed to give birth to her own flesh. born, have a right to eat, have a right to go yonder to I found the man, Parker, had practically told me the truth, charitable institutions, the appropriations for which are fur­ except they did not run me out. They were nice to me. nished by this body, and there seek out, according to the law I got a permit for her to go to the hospital. In the mean­ and order of things, according to the mandates of a given time, however, there were some physical conditions which social compact, the right of a mother to have solace and arose which perhaps did not demand her immediate re­ comfort in the birth of her child I make this appeal. I said ception at the hospital; matters which, in fact, I know I wanted you to go with me to 311 D Street, Washington. I about personally, and which, of course, would not be proper am not going into detail on the appropriations that might to divulge here. She was told to go back home and there have gone to the District of Columbia in the matter of to repose herself as best she could until she came to that charities. I have no condemnation for any particular official particular period in her life which every woman who knows or any group of officials. I am only going to give you, as an motherhood must face, and then to come back. ex-service man who gave his time in the World War, the So day before yesterday, if you please, there in this facts about a situation which you will say, as a matter of manger, there in this place a baby girl was born. I took fact, does not exist here in Washington. three witnesses with me, and at the same time we saw four Seventy-two days ago a man came to my office . .He had other little babies looking out of iron bars begging Almighty­ read in the Congressional Directory that I was an ex-service God somehow to get them into the sunlight. They were man and had been twice post commander of T. C. Carter pallid and rat eaten, so to speak, and a further description Post, No. 21, of Meridi~n. Miss .. He came clad in overalls. of the synthetic maternity ward was beyond human de­ The look upon his face showed some sort of mental and scription. physical anguish. He told me he was without food. He told She had her baby, nobody attending her during hours of me that he gave 20 months of his life in the service of the labor; nobody by her side then except that man who walked World war, and was physically emaciated because of having yonder in the war valley where the poppies somehow give been shell-shocked. I noticed an impediment in his speech. off a new blood color to the taproot and make it redder by I also noticed that there was that something present which virtue of the selfsame blood that gave this country birth; I have too often seen in the faces of such men. and this morning she is there in that manger. Why, she I left my office, and I went with him to 311 D Street, Wash­ has been feeding all of her babies on oatmeal soup for a ington. D. C .. and there I found, in a little room some 10 week, please God, with the aid of her husband while she by 10 feet square, a little woman from New-port, Tenn., lies there without any sort of comfort whatever other than Mr. Speaker, and four babies, the youngest of which seemed the comfort provided by a private physician on yesterday to be about 15 months old. I saw the pallor on those faces. here in the great city of Washington. No doubt her hus­ I saw the emaciation that was written all over their bodies~ band was urging this mighty Natipn, with its billions for I saw everything that had to do with starvation and poverty. charitable purposes; to come and keep her away from the Perhaps some of you saw in the newspapers the condition of valley where the shadows of old Gethsemane never fade. this family, because I saw fit to have it published in order She lies there and her husband cannot get work. If she that they might have something to eat. I got busy, and my lives until tomorrow evening she will ' be a most fortunate friends provided them with something to eat. I went down woman. to the authorities and asked that the man be given a job. I Oh, perhaps many of you are not interested in this. Per­ phoned one of the Commissioners-from my home State, if haps you may think it is a personal thing I desire to say you please. I am Iriaking no apologies. I said, "Give him a in order to get in the RECORD; but, bless your souls, I do job. I have investigated his war record. I find that he is not have to get in the RECORD in this case, because it has LXXX-274 4328 CONGRESSIONAL- . - RECORD-HOUSE MARCH 25 been my life since I came out of the war, and it will con­ It is just a proposition of pure. unadulterated, and damn­ tinue to be my life so long as I am physically able to be able red tape that will let a man starve to death and a about and do these things. [Applause.] mother be crucified with her own flesh and blood at her Mr. RANDOLPH. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield? breast. [Applause.] Mr. DUNN of Mississippi. I yield. Mr. PEARSON. May I say to the gentleman, in order Mr. RANDOLPH. I want to say to the gentleman that that there may be no reflection on my own State, that the the House is interested. Very few Members have had such people of Tennessee make it one of their objectives in life to an attentive and sympathetic hearing as the gentleman is look after those in their midst who are unable to properly receiving. care for themselves. Mr. DUNN of Mississippi. I thank the gentleman. There Mr. DUNN of Mississippi. There is no doubt about that. is nothing I can do. I have been to every particular place Mr. PEARSON. I want to say further that there is not a I can go. I have sent the man Parker with every sign and single member of the Tennessee delegation in this House figure to these various charitable agencies for relief and who is not ready and willing to cooperate with the gentleman they all send him away and tell him, Mr. Speaker, to go and with any agency of this House for the purpose of seeing back to Newport, Tenn. Well, when did Washington cease that this man and his family are properly taken care of. to become a transient town? When did it cease to become Mr. DUNN of Mississippi. And then some. There is no a mecca for all those people who are entitled to come to the doubt in the world about that; and that is why I referred to National Capital? Perhaps some of my fellow men are the proposition of the authorities here saying that this man here from Mississippi, perhaps some are here from New York, ought to return to Newport, Tenn., and to the plow. I put Pennsylvania, and elsewhere; but I say to you, Mr. Speaker, my finger in the face of the man who made that statement, that whenever motherhood in this Nation is crucified on a and I said, "My dear brother, if I had my way about it you cross of poverty, God help all of us. There is a day coming would be under the plow. They would plow you under, and and we have got to reckon with it. y-ou would not have the opportunity to make that statement." I have not been able to get him a job, but I will say to Mr. MAY. Will the gentleman yield? you that I have investigated him from every possible angle. Mr. DUNN of Mississippi. I yield to the gentleman from I have not found him in any wise other than thoroughly Kentucky. amenable to everything they have told him to do. He is MI. MAY. I should like to suggest to the gentleman that I}.~t a sorehead. · the city of Washington has a welfare organization at the Mr. STUBB£. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman Yield? head of which is a man by the name of Elwood Street. He Mr. DUNN of Mississippi. I yield. is a former Kentuckian. having come from Louisville. During Mr. STUBBS. This may not be strictly in order, but if the World War he did a great deal of work among the vet­ there are 100 Congressmen here who feel as I do, I would erans. May I inquire if the gentleman has contacted Mr. like them to stand with me each to give $1 to this family. Street personally? Mr. DUNN of Mississippi. I thank the gentleman for his Mr. DUNN of Mississippi. No; I have not; but I have Interest. been to the public-health unit, I have been to Gallinger I am only one Congressman, and a freshman at that, but Hospital, and to every hospital. All I can say is that I hope : why is it with all the millions _we have voted to resuscitate, to somewhere. sometime this baby may have a chance. : rehabilitate, and to rebuild bodies which have become emaci­ [Here the gavel fell.] . ated because of this depression, how is it one cannot get an Mr. DUNN of Mississippi. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous attentive ear when one sends a man to these agencies, an consent to proceed for 3 additional minutes. ex-service man at that? I do not say that because of this The SPEAKER. Is there objection to the request of the he -should receive preferential treatment, but to say the gentleman from Mississippi? least he is .a man who offered his all on the battlefield for There was no objection. his country; yet now, he, his wife, and children have got to Mr. HAMLIN. Will the gentleman yield? live in something worse than a manger for the wife to give Mr. DUNN of Mississippi. I yield to the gentleman from birth to a child. No wonder Lincoln exclaimed, if I am Maine. :right in my recollection of the author's name, that God Mr. HAMLIN. I have heard with a great deal of interest made so many poor people because he knew he had ulti­ the able remarks, the sympathetic, kindly, and true remarks, mately to repose all of his faith in them. Surely this is a of the gentleman. If I can help in any way, I am willing fact. to do it, and I am also willing to subscribe any money that I am sorry I had to bring this matter to you. I know of may be necessary toward helping this man to whom the no remedial recourse I can take. I do not kn_ow where the gentleman from Mississippi has just referred. · t~:ouble is. I do not know w}lether it is the result of just Mr. DUNN of Mississippi. I wish the Members would pure unadulterated meanness on the part of officials, whether take this address. They are not so· big in this Congress that it is the result of lack of money, whether it is the result of they cannot become human. The address is 311 D Street red tape, or what; but whatever it may be it is the result of NW. I want you to behold that situation down there. Look somebody's carelessness, negligence, and lack of recognition at it, see how it is. and observe how we are letting this of fellowship, of kindness, and pure Christianity. family go into a period of disintegration. Mr. PEARSON. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield? Mr. RANDOLPH. Will the gentleman yield? Mr. DUNN of Mississippi. I yield. Mr. DUNN of Mississippi. I yield to the gentleman from Mr. PEARSON. I have been very much interested in West Virginia. what the gentleman has had to say in view of the fact I Mr. RANDOLPH. I should like to make the suggestion to happen to be a member of the Tennessee delegation. Does the Members of the House, and I know it will be productive the gentleman know from what section of Tennessee this of results, that those who are interested telephone Mr. Cleary, man and his family hail? in charge of W. P. A., at the District Building. I am certain Mr. DUNN of Mississippi. From Newport. Tenn. if that is done we will get results. MI. PEARSON. Did the gentleman make inquiry as to Mr. DUNN of Mississippi. I promise that I am not going to what effort this man and his family made to obtain relief stop until something is done. from the relief agencies which are operating in the vicinity Mr. MEAD. Will the gentleman yield? of Newport, Tenn.? Mr. DUNN of Mississippi. I yie1d to the gentleman from MI. DUNN of Mississippi. Yes; he tells me he has brought New York. himself within every particular category a human being Mr. MEAD. Is not some difficulty in the red tape which could bring himself in to get relief and work. It does not results from . the modernizing of some of these charitable matter that he comes from Newport, Tenn.; he could have agencies which spend a great deal of overhead doing what come from my state. is called "case work"? I remember one of them saying to 1936 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD.-HOUSE 4329 me at one time that ! would be surprised at the number of was talking. Here is one situation, a very personal and acute people they prevent getting relief. I agreed with that state­ one, so far as this father, this mother, and these children are ment, but I said I would rather be surprised if you told me concerned, that you .cannot lay to the Hoover administration, the number of people they were actually giving relief. can you? This is one little thing you cannot charge to it. Mr. DUNN. of Mississippi. I thank the gentleman for his Thank God for that, anyway. [Laughter.] observation. While no departmentr-legislative, executive, or judicial­ Mr. Speaker, may I say in conclusion that there is not any can safely be permitted to exercise the powers delegated by sinister feeling on my part in this matter, but I do know that the people to the other, all must work for the common good, I have been down to the District Building during the past 60 .the welfare of all. There must be coordination of all activi­ days. I have been with this man. I saw 250 people put to ties of all departments and, over and above everything else, work with this ·man standing in line, and by the grace of there must reign the spirit, the purpose, unalterable and all ·everything that is sacred, he was thrown aside simply because absorbing, to do those things, and those things only, which ·or the fact they had given him $40 some time back in Decem­ will permit this Government of ours to continue in its onward ber. I have no more to say at this time. and its upward course, encouraging by its e"ample the people [Here the gavel fell.] of all the world to seek and attain the fullest measure of PERMISSION TO ADDRESS THE HOUSE liberty, prosperity, and happiness. Air. HOFFMAN. Mr. Speaker, under a special order today Not only must our Government be efficient, but its purpose I have 15 minutes in which to address the House. I now ask must be righteous and its acts must follow its statements of "unanimous consent that my time may be extended 5 minutes, principle. • so that I may fully answer the gentleman who has just Criticism, when truthful, is the safeguard of a democratic spoken. government. When constructive, it points the way to ad­ ' The SPEAKER. Is there objection to the request of the vancement. When untruthful, when it arouses merely class gentleman from Michigan? hatred and prejudice, its only ultimate end is discord, revo­ . Mr. BANKHEAD. Mr. Speaker, reserving the right to ob­ lution, or anarchy. jectr-and. I shall not object to this time-we have a rather During the last 2 years of the Hoover administration the full program today, and I trust there will not be further brilliant, the vindictive, and the resourceful gutter-scraping, requests to speak out of order. mud-slinging publicity man of the Democratic organization Mr. SABATH. Mr. Speaker, how much time does the gen­ inaugurated and successfully carried out at enormous expense tleman have? and without regard to truth or common decency, a campaign The SPEAKER. The gentleman has 15 minutes, which to "smear Hoover." was granted by unanimous consent. The gentleman asks Smear Hoover? You did a dandy job of it and you elected unanimous consent to speak for an additional 5 minutes. Is a man on a platform which promised to wipe out all our there objection? trials and tribulations and all our suffering and to do away There was no objection. with this depression. The unemployment is still with us. Mr. HOFFMAN. Mr. Speaker, the statement made by the During the same and a subsequent period that outspoken gentleman who has. just preceded me appeals to everyone's exemplar of dirty, nasty, practical politics, with a masterful heart, and no one here can understand why a condition of demonstration of what has come to be known as the most that kind should exist. To be told, as we have just been reprehensible of Tammany tactics, adopting the role of . a told, that a World War veteran and his family, his wife saint, built up and pictured the Democratic candidate as the about to give birth to a child, are destitute, not only of the only exponent of the rights, as the champion, of the so-called comforts but of the necessities of life, and that the wife, at common man. least, is suffering in her extremity because of a lack of medi­ And what is the result, with this champion of the common cal care and aid, and that the gentleman from Mississippi man right on the scene, with more than $4,000,000,000 to [Mr. DUNN] has been unable to procure for a family here in spend? Here in Washington, with all of this money, after Washington those things which are necessary to prevent these 3 long years of effort, we have, by the statement of a hunger, suffering, and, perhaps, death, is almost unbelievable. Democrat whose word is unquestioned, whose information is Yet the gentleman undoubtedly is but givi..ng us the facts. undoubtedly accurate, a family suffering and starving, with · I hope to be able to point .out a way in which, perhaps, the a mother about to give birth to a child, and that without the gentleman can get relief by going back to the State of Ten­ necessary medical care. ·nessee, although I may be wrong. Perhaps if this World Here in Washington we are told by a Member on the War veteran would go back to Tennessee, his home State, Democratic side, this situation exists, and it exists not be­ and satisfactorily answer the questions put out by some local cause it is unknown, for the gentleman says he has appealed Democratic organizations, relief might be obtained. for aid, but apparently it exists because of red tape or indif­ · The statement of the gentleman, coming, as it does, from ference, and somewhere in the city Harry Hopkins sits and that side of the House, proves conclusively that there is smiles and smiles and authorizes the expenditure of hun­ absolutely no certainty that when you give money to the dreds of thousands of dollars for music, art, and amuse­ executive department it is going to r-elieve the conditions ment, while down at 311 D Street NW., in the city of Wash­ which today exist. If $4,880,000,000 will not take care of a ington, if the gentleman is accurate, a mother and children family right here in Washington, then there is no use de­ are suffering. Did Hopkins ever hear that charity begins at pending upon that particular branch of the Government any home? longer. Ah! if you had brought in someone who really had human­ This is a case right under their nose. It is right on their ity in his heart, instead of "Big" Jim Farley, to look after own doorstep. It is right in their own home. When this the political end of it, to build up a political machine, had condition is pointed out to them, they ought to be able to you brought in someone to distribute relief we would never take care of it. There should be coordination all through have the situation with which we are confronted today, and the departments, and the one purpose should be to serve our thankful I am that the story comes from a Democrat and country in every possible way. not from a Republican, because it is said by this adminis­ Mr. Speaker, if this Government of ours is to continue to tration that all Republicans are liars. be a government by and for the people, to fulfill its mission The Republican Party and its candidate were pictured as on this earth, then the various departments must be kept the tools of Wall Street, the servants of entrenched greed, within their respective spheres, each separate and inde­ the champions of special privilege. The rank and file of the pendent of the other, and each must retain to itself the Republican Party was charged with having neither honesty function which the Government has given it. of purpose nor patriotism. By campaign speeches over radio, I realize that criticism is of no account unless we offer some in print, and by picture the people were led to believe that remedy or suggestion that will be helpful. This is true, how­ the average Republican wa,s selfish, heartless, unsympathetic, ever, and I could not help thinking of it while the gentleman uncharitable, greedy, avaricious, politically dishonest, and 4330 CONGRESSIONAL- RECORD-HOUSE MARCH 2S: corrupt; that an of the virtue and all of the honesty, all of Mr. HOFFMAN. Not now; no. I am not talking about the the kindness, all of the sympathy, all of the charity, all of tariff. I am talking about how you transferred control and the desire to better humanity was possessed by the members the places to which the money was supposed to go to the of the Democratic Party, and that all of these virtues were South, and, Mr. Speaker, I refuse to yield. · personified in its candidate for the Presidency, He, and he Mr. HARLAN. Will the gentleman enlighten the House by alone, was supposed to be interested in the welfare of our saying what-- people, in the perpetuity of our Government. All others of Mr. MITLARD. Mr. Speaker, a point of order. opposite political faith, all those who failed to bend the knee, The SPEAKER. The gentleman will state it. . were outcasts and political degenerates. Mr. MITLARD. The gentleman from Ohio is questioning This doctrine he and his supporters preached without the gentleman when he has refused to yield. ceasing throughout the days, the weeks, and the months, and Mr. HARLAN. The gentleman addressed his remarks­ the people were told, until some actually came to believe, that The SPEAKER. Does the gentleman from Michigan yield the Democratic candidate, and he alone, could save this to the gentleman from Ohio? country of ours from revolution. No more egotistical, ab­ Mr. HOFFMAN. Mr. Speaker, I said a moment ago, ad .. surd, and vicious doctrine was ever preached except in those dressing the Chair, that I would not yield. countries where dictators have used it to establish them­ The SPEAKER. The gentleman declines to yield, and the selves in power. gentleman from Michigan has the floor. Up and down and across this land of ours Democratic Mr. HOFFMAN. Seventy-eight thousand six hundred and orators and the President himself went far and wide, telling thirty-eight dollars to another man. all that he stood upon the Democratic platform, that cor­ Now, a few dollars of that $219,000 or a few dollars of that ruption, waste and extravagance, and false theories of gov­ $168,000 might, I may say to my friend from Mississippi, ernment would go were he elected. No campaign with a have been taken down here to the outskirts of Washington higher announced purpose was ever inaugurated or carried and might have been used to relieve the condition there. to a successful conclusion. No greater fraud was ever per­ That is what is called practical applied charity. The Presi­ petrated upon a people, for, from the day when it was swept dent said you must judge men by the way they act rather than into power by the people's childlike faith in and reliance by what they say, What he was referring to was the old upon its oft-repeated promises of lofty purposes and high passage, ''By their fruits ye shall know them." That is what idealism down to the present moment no government within he was thinking about, I guess, but it was not followed out. the memory of living man has ever been so false to its The wickedness, the viciousness, the utter corruptness o! promises, so betrayed a trusting people, as has the Democratic this kind of a program is demonstrated when you on the Party. majority side refuse to permit the people to know who those This Government was to be rescued from the clutch of who receive these large benefit payments are; when you Wall Street and the international banker. Special privilege smother, as you did, the resolution of the gentleman from was to be ended. No longer were the money changers to sit New York [Mr. TABER], when he sought to incorporate in in the legislative halls or the executive offices at Washington. the last agricultural bill the provision that no more than In short, the "money changers" were to be driven out of the $2,000 should be paid to any one man. And when we ask temple. A noble purpose, high words of promise, but abso­ the Department of Agriculture to tell us who it is that is lutely and completely false. receiving more than $10,000 per year by virtue of his pay­ If such-and let us be charitable-was ever the purpose, ments, that information is denied to the Congress. the first grasp of hands upon the reins of power saw its That the dirty work exists is shown conclusively by the abandonment. Businessmen, merchants, factory owners, in­ fact that the. Department of Agriculture refuses to permit dustrialists of every nature_, those who made this country the taxpayers to know who it is that receives the money what it is, have been banished from the council table. paid in by the taxpayers. What excuse can there be for . Wall Street, the international bankers, the idle rich were denying to a. man who contributes to the sUpport of the to be thrown into outer. darkness, but we notice they are still Government the knowledge as ·to where and how and in holding forth at the same old place of business, and, in addi­ what amount his money is spent? Absolutely none, except tion, other high priests of greed, of selfishness, of special as that expenditure be illegal or for a corrupt purpose. privilege have been added, and they have come from the Flying the flag of humanity, preaching the doctrine of countryside, from the Southland, where votes might be har­ charity and of helpfulness, of kindliness, of justice and vested to continue this administration in power. equality, this administration's army of officeholders, march.. If the Wall Street bankers have been denied special privi­ ing under the black flag of piracy, has robbed one group leges-which they have not, as witness the speculators in of taxpayers to seduce another. silver under the Silver Purchase Act of 1934-then to their Under illegal laws, which were declared to be without number have been added others to receive the special favors validity by the Supreme Court, Government officials, by of Government. threat and by use of the Federal name, by virtue of their Under the guise of aiding agriculture, but for the real pur­ position as Federal officers, · have compelled citizens who pose of purchasing the farm vote, processing taxes were lacked the ability to defend themselves to pay unlawful levied. They were collected from the consumer, from thE3 and unjust taxes. Millions-yes; literally millions-of dol­ eater of meat and the wearer of clothing, from the· under­ lars have been collected illegally by the use of the threat that privileged and the undernourished. The pennies, the nickels, if those taxes were not paid citizens would be thrown into the dimes all flowed. into the coffers of this Government of jail or forced to stand trial beyond the jurisdiction of their ours, all, we are told, for the purpose of aiding the farmer. home courts. This is not idle talk. Not a man in this True, one class did benefit at the expense of another, but House but knows that such was the practice under the who were the real, the chief recipients? Who actually re­ Triple A and under theN. R. A. ceived these pennies, nickels, and dimes collected from the This is the only administration in the history of our poor, who could least afford to pay them? country which by the use of brute force and of threat of The junior Senator from Michigan said day before yester­ illegal imprisonment has ever held up and gone through day over in the Senate Chamber, that he knew of one in.. the pockets of the taxpayer, and this charge cannot be­ stance where more than $219,000 of this money in 2 years and even is not-denied. went to pay one beneficiary for not raising 14,587 hogs on 445 Under the guise of patriotism and Christianity, under the acres of land, $15 a hog for 14,587 of them. And he cited pretense of relieving our people from the conditions brought another instance where $168,000 was paid for not planting on by a depression, which the Democratic administration 7,000 acres to cotton. And again where, in 2 years, another charges to the preceding Republican administration, during farmer-"agriculturist" would be the more proper word-was the latter months of which the majority in this House paid $78,638. refused to lend its constructive aid, this administration has Mr. HARLAN. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield? demanded that the Congress abdicate its functions and turn 1936 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 4331 over to the President unheard of sums of money to be used Here is an acknowledgment of Harry Hopkins that the .at his discretion, and-to our shame and disgrace be it money paid by the taxpayer for the relief of a sufferer, of one said-that, forsaking its constitutional duty to make appro- who is dependent, paid to one who needs Government aid, priations and to direct the expenditures of the public funds, instead of being used for the purchase of food or clothing by a Congress characterized by the public as a "rubber-stamp the man so receiving it, may be used as a contribution to a Congress" obeyed that mandate. - political organization. Here is the evidence, conclusive and For what purpose was the money sought? For what pur- inescapable, that relief funds may be used to perpetuate men pose was it used? We know that it bas been used in ever- in office-an unthinkable proposition. increasing amounts, not for the purpose for which it was Why, oh why, should one taxpayer be forced to contribute given-to relieve suffering and distress-but to build up a so t:tiat another, not a taxpayer but a voter, may give a part .political machine, the sole purpose of which is to continue of that money so contributed to the party in power or to any .in office and increase in power- those .who ask for and ad- other party? minister the appropriation. Here .is music. The jingle of the taxpayers' coin, the work­ - We all recall how, under this promise of prosperity, under ers' earnings, as the Government official takes it from him, this banner whereon was painted "the more abundant life", drops it into the Government sack, then passes it out in the and greater · privileges to everyone, the promise of a pot of form of .a dole or payment for "made work", so that the public -gold at the rainbow's end, -the campaign was carried on and official may, and does, receive back a portion of that fund for won; and what -happened? Only more unemployment, -an his own interest-a triangle never completed, one where the ever-increasing public debt. In the history-of our country money does not go 'round and. 'round, but stops in the pocket did there ever before exist a time when the people were of the crooked politician. -forced by Government agents to give up money under laws Is there anything more vicious, anything more unfair to that were void, by way of taxes, as the officials of theN. R. A. collect from one group of taxpayers money to -buy bread, ·and of the Triple A went out in all our districts and made the fuel, and shelter and give it to another group to contribute ·farmers and the processors pay those taxes, which they had -to campaign funds? Oh, how vicious. no right to collect. Mr. BANKHEAD. · Will the gentleman yield? · Then what did they do with them? Here is the sad, sad Mr. HOFFMAN. Briefly. · thing about it. Here is the wicked thing, here is the vicious Mr. BANKHEAD. Does the gentleman remember that in- thing, and here is the· thing that this -administration never -stead of·giving th-e employees the opportunity to make volun­ ·can get away from. We all supposed this money was to be tary contributions in a former administration there was a ·used for relief. The money was taken from one group of compulsory-system requiring postmasters all over the coun­ taxpayers for what purpose? What right has this Govern- try to contribute to the campaign? [Applause.] The gen­ ment of ours to take your money or take anyone's money to tleman -better acquaint himself with the history of his own ·give to someone else? Only one right, and that is because party before he criticizes ours. ·the one who is receiving the money needs it or is suffering Mr. HOFFMAN. I know the history of the Republican and because it is necessary. The law of necessity. Is not ·Party in the State or-Michigan and no such ceturse was ever that right? We all agree that when that condition exists followed there while the Republicans were in power. I am and when it is necessary to prevent suffering, then the tax- not familiar with the history of the Democratic Party in the payer, whoever he may be and however little he may have, South and know nothing about it. should contribute his portion for the purpose of relieving Mr. BANKHEAD. Will the gentleman answer my ques- distress. To that doctrine we all subscribe. But this $4,000,- tion? 000,000 and these other sums were given, -contrary to our Mr. HOFFMAN. I have answered it. theory of government, to the President, instead of the dis- I will answer the gentleman further. Does it make any bursement thereof being directed by Congress. Well, let that difference if a party has been guilty of an offense in the past, ·pass. Presumably, he intended to use it for the purpose for is there any sense in your continuing it? You talk about the which it was appropriated. offenses of the Republican Party, and ·here you are deeper ~e charge that the pockets of the taxpayers are being and further in the mud than it ever was. picked and the money used for political purposes is a serious Mr. MICHENER. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield? one and should never be made could it not be shown beyond Mr. HOFFMAN. Yes. reasonable doubt to be true. Unfortunately it is all too true, Mr. MICHENER. Where is t!le gentleman's predecessor? - and the proof comes, not from some irresponsible, obscure Mr. HOFFMAN. Ob, for selling post offices he is in the official, for -whose actions the President is not responsible. penitentiary, sent there by a Federal court. ·On the contrary, it comes from a United States Democratic Mr. MICHENER. As a matter of fact, the gentleman's Senator; it comes from the administration's right-hand predecessor in Congress, a Democrat, is now serving time spender; the man entrusted by the President with the ex- because he compelled Democratic postmasters to contribute penditures of a large portion of this sum; the man against to-his campaign fund if they got the appointment. Is not whom the President has ~n warned time and time again, that true? furnishes the evidence. It comes from all quarters, from all Mr. HOFFMAN. Oh, that is neither here nor there. Sup- classes of people. pose he is there. Let us go back a moment. Four billion eight hundred and Mr. BLANTON. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield? eighty million dollars were appropriated. For.what purpose? Mr. HOFFMAN. No. I want to tell you something about To relieve suffering, to keep people from starving, from being the Democratic organization, not in Texas. - cold, to save homes, to rescue businesses, to lead us on the Mr. WHITE. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield? -way to prosperity, to give us the "more abundant life", Mr. HOFFMAN. I decline to yield until I have read some- whatever that may mean. That was the purpose. _ thing else. _ Did anyone in this House think for one moment that money The utter hYPocrisy of this administration is demonsb·ated was being taken from one taxpayer or one group of taxpay- by its actions. Long, long years ago it was written, "By ers so that it might be given to another group of citizens, their fruits ye shall know them"; and more recently the Presi­ citizens otherwise without funds, citizens otherwise in need, dent said that men's motives were to be judged not by what so that that group, the needy, the suffering, might contribute they said but by what they did. a part of the tax money of the first group to a political In the last paragraph of Mr. Hopkins' letter, over his signa- machine? ture, it is said: In a news release dated March 18 and headed "Hopkins No person shall be employed or discharged by the Works Progress Orders Posters Banning Political Contrtbutions" we find this Administration on the ground of his support or nonsupport of any paragraph referring to relief workers: candidate of any political orga.niza.tion. · The question of whether or not to contribute to any political That statement is_ for public consumption. Those are party is a matter entirely for the voluntary decision o! sa.id employee. words. The act~ are very different. The acts we get from 4332 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE MARCH 25 the political henchmen of "Big" Jim Farley. True, the Presi­ that if he voted a Republican ticket he would be less capable dent said that politics was to be divorced from government. of operating his truck, of filling his motor with oil, his tank What he meant was not that an absolute divorce was to be with gasoline? Lubricating oil, by the way, seems to be granted. What he should have said, and what he evidently the thing they are after; translated it means campaign intended, was that "Big" Jim Farley, the Democratic Tam­ funds. many politician, should have separate maintenance, but not You tax the people, all the people, Republicans as well as from bed and board; that he should continue as Postmaster Democrats, for the purpose, as announced by this adminis ... General, with all of the authority and power that goes with tration, of relieving suffering. Then when the man who, that office, but that, as a matter of fact, his chief duty should under the terms of the law, is entitled to aid goes to receive be to perpetuate the Democratic administration in power his share of that aid he cannot get it unless it appears that while acting as its national committee chairman. he is a good Democrat or will support the Democratic Party. Words and acts! Here is the example which has been Can anyone in this House conceive of a more corrupt, of followed by the practical workers all down the line. Many a more vicious, of a dirtier, more unprincipled manner of have had letters from constituents seeking welfare relief, purchasing votes, of undermining the Government than this? who have told us that in order to get that relief they must If he can. then he must be in direct communication with the announce their allegiance to the Democratic Party. These devil himself. . letters came from individuals, and, while they were many in Do not misunderstand me. To my mind it is not conceiva­ number and while we protested, they were only hearsay evi­ ble that any Member of this House would be guilty of a prac ... dence of what was being done. tice like this, or that any Member of this House is responsible Time, however, has given us the direct proof. Just re­ for this practice. In my judgment, it is the brain child of cently two local carpenters, working in the little village of "Big" Jim Farley and others who lack the sense of political Decatur, in Van Buren County, Mich., were discharged from decency and common honesty. a public job after it was learned that the county clerk's office One of the local papers yesterday stated that the Presi­ showed that they had committed the crime of voting the dent's publicity man had intimated rather broadly that pow .. Republican ticket in a primary election. ers from on high had advised the President of the -coming Still more recently a Decatur, Van Buren County, Mich., flood danger and that he had made preparation to meet it. truck driver, applying for temporary work with a road­ And so again the misery of the people was used to give repairing gang, was handed a blank to be filled. This blank publicity to a Presidential candidate. was headed "Application for endorsement by Van Buren Yet Republicans, when they oppose these appropriations, County Democratic committee", and contained 52 questions. are charged with a lack of humanity, with being unsympa .. Among them were the following: thetic, with being willing to let people starve, go hungry and Did you vote in the primary of September 1934? ------Demo­ cold, lose their homes and their property, because we are cratic ------· Republican ------· not willing to vote unlimited funds into the hands of men Have you ever run for elective office? ----- On what ticket? who administer them as these funds have been shown to be Ever held a political appointive position? ----- By whom ap- administered. pointed? ------I am complaining now, not of waste, not of extravagance, Did you vote in election of November 1934? ------but of corruption, the sole purpose of which is to under· Have you contributed to any Democratic organization in county? mine our form of government. To whom? ------How much since August 1, 1932? Never will I vote to give men the money of the people of And this is not an isolated instance. Beyond question, it the Fourth Congressional District, to put funds into the is the common practice of the present Democratic machine. custody of men like Harry Hopkins, when I know that a part I hold in my hand an application, form no. 100, received of it can only reach those on relief if they agree to support from Kalamazoo County yesterday. It is headed "Applica­ the r>emocratic organization. tion for endorsement by Kalamazoo County Democratic Republicans would be lacking, not in charity nor in sym ... Committee." This form is handed to those seeking not only pathy nor in the finer feelings of humanity, but in good sense political jobs but, in this particular instance, the blank was should they again vote to supply the Democratic Party treas ... given to a man who was seeking relief work, and he was ury with campaign funds, as apparently this Congress did asked: when it voted the $4,880,000,000 to the President last year. Mr. Speaker, the President has sent down a bill for relief; Are you a member of any Democratic organization or club? and when that comes up, in spite of the fact that he ha& ------VVhere? ------Did you vote in the election of November 1934? ------several billion dollars--one or two; I do not know how Have you contributed to any Democratic organization 1n Kala­ much-if any Republican on this side refuses to give him mazoo County? ------To whom? ------How much since more money, he will be charged with a lack of charity, with August 1, 1932? ------Are you now occupying the position for which you seek endorse­ a lack of kindliness, with being greedy, with being cruel, and ment of the Kalamazoo County ·Democratic committee? ------with being willing to let people starve and freeze and suffer We appropriated $4,880,000,000 for relief, and to get a part from every conceivable, imaginary thing that can afflict a of it, to get an opportunity to work, men are asked to declare human being. Just because we refuse to vote another bil·· · whether they voted the Democratic or the Republican ticket, lion or two so that it can be thrown into a canal in and how much, if anything, they have contributed to the Florida-twelve million of it-dump it on the coast of Democratic organization. Maine in the Passamaquoddy Dam, neither of which proj ... This application is one that came in from the Third Dis­ ects is of any practical value; waste it in thousands, hun ... trict of Michigan from Kalamazoo County. It is not put dreds of thousands-yes; in millions-of dollars; waste it in every conceivable way-just so that it brings a harvest of out by a Republican organization. It is addressed to the Kalamazoo County Democratic committee. votes--if we refuse that, we will be charged as obstruc ... Why do they want to know whether this truck driver voted tionists. Use it in pretended relief work, and get a part of at a primary election? Because at a primary election he that back-no one knows how much-by way of contribu ... must ask either for a Democratic or a Republican, or some tion from relief workers, to be used for campaign purposes. other party ballot, so by looking at the registration list they Oh, be fair; be a little charitable with us. Treat us just can ascertain his politics. half-way decent, somewhat as you would like to be treated, Why do they want to know .of what Democratic organiza­ and let it go at that, and we will be with you on all legiti... tion, if any, he was a member? Why do they ask. ''Have mate matters. you contributed to any Democratic organization?" and if he Mr. WHITE. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield? had, "How much since August 1, 1932?" Does his member­ Mr. HOFFMAN. No; my time has expired. [Applause.] ship in a Democratic organization or the amount of his con­ EMERGENCY RELIEF, DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA tribution assist in determining whether he is a competent Mr. BUCHANAN. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent

truck driver, or whether he needed the job? Is it possible for the present consideration of House Joint Resolution 5431 1936 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 4333 making an additional appropriation for the fiscal year 1936 The Clerk read as follows: for emergency relief of residents of the District of Columbia, Amendment offered by Mr. O'CoNNoR: Page 1, Une 6, strike out which I send to the desk and ask to have read. the period, insert a comma., and add the following: ."and all points The Clerk read as follows: of order against said bill are hereby waived." House Joint Resolution M3 Mr. O'CONNOR. Mr. Speaker, I might say that some Resolved, etc., That to provide an addition amount for the pur­ question has just arisen as to the possibility of a point of pose of affording relief to residents of the District of Columbia who order being made on page 2, to what might be a reappro­ are unemployed or otherwise in distress because of the existing priation. In order to save time I have offered this amend­ emergency, to be expended by the Board of Public Welfare of the District of Columbia by employment and direct relief, in the discre­ ~ent, which is very often included in a rule. tion of the Board of Commissioners and under rules and regula­ Mr. SNELL. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield for a tions to be prescribed by the Board and without regard to the question? · provisions of any other law, $350,000, to remain available until June 30, 1936, and to be payable from the revenues of the District Mr. O'CONNOR. Yes; I yield. of Columbia. Mr. SNELL. Is it not also a question of a point of order The SPEAKER. Is there objection to the immediate con­ whether this bill is rightfully on the calendar of the House? sideration of the resolution? Does this amendment which the gentleman has offered pre­ . Mr. TABER. Reserving the right to object, Mr. Speaker, clude any point of order against that? this is an item of $350,000, payable out of the District reve­ Mr. O'CO~OR. I believe it does. ;nues to carry the relief load along from now until the 1st Mr. SNELL. I do not know that I will make it, but I of July? think it is subject to a point of order. Mr. BUCHANAN. To partially carry it along. Mr. O'CONNOR. I know what the distinguished minority Mr. TABER. A deficiency item, entirely out of the Dis- leader is referring to. The Rules Committee went into that trict revenue? situation and came to the conclusion the bill was properly on the calendar of the House, or we would not have granted Mr. BUCHANAN. Entirely so. the rule. will Mr. RICH. Mr. Speaker, the gentleman yield? Mr. SNELL. But the gentleman will admit it is question­ Mr. BUCHANAN. I yield. able, in any event? Mr. RICH. Would it be possible to take care of that Mr. O'CONNOR. Not as to the bill or the report on the needy case that was spoken of by our colleague from Mis­ bill. The question arose as to the supplemental report, sissippi [Mr. DUNN] a few moments ago, if the $350,000 is which does not go to the status of the bill in the House. appropriated? The gentleman portrayed a picture that T'ne SPEAKER. The question is on the amendment ought to touch the heart of every Member of Congress, and offered by the gentleman from New York. our colleague says that. at 311 D Street is a family that needs The amendment was agreed to. every consideration. Might that be taken care of by this The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Georgia [Mr. Cox] fund? is recognized for 30 minutes. Mr. BUCHANAN. I think it is possible to take care of it Mr. COX. Mr. Speaker, the purpose of the bill, consid­ out of this fund, but I do not think the gentleman need be eration of which the pending rule is to make in order, is to uneasy about it. That case is going to be taken care of. extend the life of the Electric Home and Farm Authority Mr. RICH. It would be fine if we did it. until February 1, 1937. The SPEAKER. Is there objection? This corporation was created by virtue of an Executive There was no objection. order made under authority contained in the National In­ The SPEAKER. The question is on the engrossment and dustrial Recovery Act. The life of the corporation will ex­ third reading of the resolution. pire April 1. That creates an emergency, which is respon­ The resolution was ordered to be engrossed and read a sible for the measure coming here in this manner at this third time, and was read the third time. time. · . The SPEAKER. The question is on the passage of the The gentleman from Tennessee [Mr. McREYNOLDS] intro­ resolution. duced the House bill during the last session, at the request The resolution was passed. of the President. That bill was in the latter days of the On motion by Mr. BucHANAN, a motion to reconsider the session reported by the Committee on Banking and Cur­ vote by which the resolution was agreed to was laid on rency but not acted upon. The Senate has recently adopted the table. the bill for which this rule is granted, which is identical ELECTRIC HOME AND FARM AUTHORITY with the McReynolds bill. The Electric Home and Farm Authority is purely a finance Mr. COX. Mr. Speaker, by direction of the Committee on company, a credit, not a selling institution. It provides a Rules, I call up House Resolution 461. discount market for electrical appliance installment con­ The Clerk read as follows: tracts for dealers, utility companies, and municipal power House Resolution 461 and light departments. It does not, as some have under­ Resolved, That upon the adoption o! this resolution it shall be -stood, sell the appliances. The corporation has at no time, in order to move that the House resolve itself into the Committee of the Whole House on the state of the Union for the consideration nor does it expect, as far as we understand from the advice of s. 3424, a bill to continue Electric Home and Farm Authority given us by those in charge, to enter the-field of distribution. as an agency of the United States until February 1937, and for The operations of the corporation require no appropriation other purposes. That after general debate, which shall be confined ·and will be no drain whatever upon the Treasury. It is to the b111 and continue not to exceed 1 hour, to be equally divided and controlled by the chairman and ranking minority ·under the conservative and experienced control of the Re­ member of the Committee on Banking and Currency, the bill shall construction Finance Corporation, eight trustees furnished be read for amendment under the 5-minute rule. At the conclu­ by the Reconstruction Finance Corporation and one by the sion of the reading of the bill for amendment, the Committee shall rise and report the same to the House with such amendments as Rural Electrification Administration. may have been adopted, and the previous question shall be consid­ Mr. SNELL. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield? ered as ordered on the bill and amendments thereto to final pas­ Mr. COX. Yes; I yield. sage without intervening motion except one motion to recommit, Mr. SNELL. I do not see from examining the report of with or without tnstructions. the hearings published by the committee anything to carry Mr. COX. Mr. Speaker, of the 1 hour time allotted me, out the statement just made by the gentleman that there is I yield 30 minutes to the gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. no chance for a loss, or no chance of it being any cost to RANSLEY], to be by him yielded as he sees fit. the United States 'n'easury. In the statement for the month I now yield to the gentleman from New York [Mr. of February; if any ·allowance whatever was made for re­ O'CONNOR]. serves, .it had been running at a loss. There was only $201 ' Mr. O'CONNOR. Mr. Speaker, I offer an amendment to . profit in that month." without reserves; and· out of $9,v00 the resolution. total income, $6,000 was a matter of salaries. 4334 _COl;iGR_ESSIONAL . RECORD_-HOUSE MARCH 25. Mr. COX. The primary purpose of the corporation is not Mr. COX. There is nothing about this matter that I am profit, I may say to the gentleman. interested in concealing. As a matter of fact, I have sought Mr. SNELL. Looking over the statement and following it to be absolutely frank and give a true account of the $150,00() through, my honest judgment is that there is a big loss in representing the difference in the capitalization in the orig­ this company at the present time. inal corporation and the present corporation. Mr. COX. The new corporation, organized under the Mr. MICHENER. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield? laws of the District of Columbia, has not suffered a penny Mr. COX. I hope the gentleman will suffer me, please, to of loss. discuss just to a brief extent the bill and the corporation. Mr. SNELL. Right on this question, if the gentleman will Mr. Speaker, the corporation is earning its operating ex­ yield further-- penses and has, as I have stated, established very satisfactory Mr. COX. I yield to the gentleman. reserves. Its current operations are so favorable that it has not utilized its line of credit with the Reconstruction Finance Mr. SNELL. Why was the capital stock reduced from Corporation and does not owe this Corporation a dime. lt iS $1,000,000 to $850,000? able to borrow money from the commercial banks at the Mr. COX. I want to be very frank with the House. This rate for prime commercial paper. At the present time the corporation at the outset was largely within the control of corporation is getting its money at three-fourths of 1 percent. Mr. Lillienthal, of the Tennessee Valley Authority, and tre­ There is an actual need,for the type of service this corpora­ mendous expenditures were made in the way of promotional tion is rendering. It is making available this type of credit activities or in carrying on promotional work. - Of the total to people in areas where no such means of obtaining credit expenditures made by that agent of the Government in have heretofore existed. It originally operated in Georgia, charge of the .Tennessee Valley Authority $150,000 was Tennessee, Alabama, and, I believe, Mississippi; but the new charged to this corporation. Under the reorganization, un­ corporation has contracts with utility people, I believe the der the new corporation, this $150,000 has practically been hearings disclose, in 28 States and contemplate going into earned,_ and at the present time the corporation would liqui­ all States where like credit facilities are not available or date $964,000. existing facilities are not satisfactory. Mr. SNELL. As a matter of fact, the corporation is behind Let me now bring to your attention what I think is the today, is it not? most important service the corporation has rendered. Mr. COX. It approaches very closely the original sum of As I previously stated, it has a sufficient income to enable $1,000,000 which was turned over to it. it to meet all current expenses and to provide a reserve. It Mr. SNELL. From the gentleman's own statement, then, has not lost a dime. It has not been compelled to repossess to the present time the corporation is at least $40,000 behind. a single appliance. It has not had a single lawsuit or even Am I not correct? a threat of litigation. As satisfactory and as important as Mr. COX. The corporation has not su1Iered a penny of all this has been, the most important service it has rendered loss on any of its operations; not one penny. has been its influence upon interest charges heretofore main­ Mr. SNELL. That was not the question I asked, if the tained by credit institutions. gentleman cares to answer it. I said that according to the Mr. Speaker, it is a matter of common knowledge to every­ gentleman's own statement, according to the figures he has one that interest charges in connection with installment just given, this corporation is at least $40,000 behind. I do transactions have previously been criminally high. But this not know where the money went. corporation has through its activities been able to bring Mr. COX. I explained to the gentleman that at the outset about a readjustment of interest charges on practically all those in charge were rather extravagant in spending money similar transactions that result in savings to the extent of for promotional work. millions of dollars to the people who buy on the installment Mr. SNELL. Why was the capital stock of the company plan. For illustration, let me give you in figures the cost of reduced when it was reorganized in the District of Columbia? credit of this type as charged by the corporation and that Mr. COX. Because that was the money it had at its dis­ heretofore charged by similar private agencies. posal, and it recapitalized to the extent of the total amount. On a $50 credit for a term of 6 months the total charge of Mr. SNELL. Is it not a fact it was recapitalized at $850,000 this corporation is $3.22; whereas the General Motors Ac­ because $150,000 had been lost? ceptance Corporation had a fixed charge of $8, the General Mr. COX. The $150,000 was not lost. Security Co. a charge of $7 .12, and the Commercial Credit Mr. SNELL. We will say it was spent. Co. a charge of $8.26. On a short-term transaction the Mr. COX. The $150,000 was spent. charge of this corporation is all the way from 33% percent Mr. SNELL. I will accept the gentleman's interpretation. to 50 percent of the charge made by private financing com­ As a matter of fact, then, this corporation up to date has not panies. paid its expenses. . As I said, the setting up of this corporation was not in.. Mr. COX. The history of the new corporation is that, so tended for profit. It is simply set up for the purpose of far as its earnings are concerned, although incorporated with extending this service and making available to a class of a capital stock of $850,000, it will liquidate at $964,000, show­ people not heretofore having the privilege or the source of ing a very satisfactory earning. credit which would enable them to buy facilities of this char­ Mr. SNELL. I did not say "earned,; I referred to the acter. This corporation has done fine work, not in the whole proposition. profit it makes,' because the Government is not interested in Mr. COX. This is a new corporation; it is not the cor­ profit. It has reduced interest charges heretofore main­ poration originally set up; the original corporation trans­ tained by all finance companies, and this applies not only ferred all its assets to the new corporation incorporated under to Florida, Georgia, and Alabama, but to the New England the laws of the District of Columbia. States and every section of the country where people. poor Mr. SNELL. It is to do the same kind of work, is it not? people as a rule, have been imposed upon by the finance Mr. COX. Yes; and at the present time it has a very companies, if they were to enjoy these comforts and facili· satisfactory reserve. It has made a very remarkable record in ties and at the same time compelled to buy on time. Every­ the operations it has carried on. one knows how terrible they have been imposed upon by the Mr. SNELL. That is based on all its contracts for toasters, finance companies in the way of exorbitant interest charges. and so on, and so forth, being good at face value. Mr. CA VICCHIA. Will the gentleman yield? Mr. COX. I am very glad, of. course, to yield to the gen­ Mr. COX. I yield to the gentleman from New Jersey. tleman in the effort to answer· any questions he may pro­ Mr. CA VICCHIA. This corporation has done hardly any pound; but my time is limited, and I want to use just a bit business. Why does the gentleman say it bas caused interest of it in a discussion of the bill. rates to go down? Why not give credit to the Housing Cor­ Mr. SNELL. The gentleman has been generous. I thank poration, which has brought credit rates down, not this him. corporation? 1936 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 4335 Mr. COX. The influence of the Housing Corporation does of $7,132.67. The same report states that since that time not approach that of this particular corporation in negotiat­ they have had an operating deficit up to February 29, 1936, ing with these finance companies in the interest of decent of $4,452.36, and when they put in their reserve far losses interest rates. I want to say to the gentleman that of all they have an operating deficit since July 31 of $8,521.47. the agencies set up by the Government I believe, so far as That is the committee's own statement. the poor people are ·concerned, this one agency has done Mr. GIFFORD. Yes; he who runs may read. It is avail­ as much as any other. able to everybody, as is this remarkable claim of profit of Mr. Speake1·, I reserve the balance of my time. $97,000 unearned. Mr. RANSLEY. Mr. Speaker, I yield 15 minutes to the Now, how do they do it? When the dealer finally assures gentleman from Massachusetts [Mr. GIFFORDJ. these people that the refrigerators are the kind they ought Mr. GIFFORD. Mr. Speaker, some general statements to sell and within the pocketbook of the people in that vicin­ should be made as to how difficult it is to get rid of one of ity, then the dealer will sell it and will take the contract to these new activities which are being from time to time set up the power company. The power company collects every by this present Government. A remarkable example came month, not only for the power but for the appliances sold by up here a day or two ago in the matter of C. C. C. camps. the dealer. The power company takes these contracts to When the President himself tried to reduce them the Con­ this concern and discounts them at about 5 percent. The gress would not allow him to do it. A Democratic caucus E. H. F. A. boasts that it is borrowing the money at 1 percent. was insisted upon and the President capitulated. Now we There is the profit. Pay the salaries, and the rest is profit. have this set-up which they wish to continue for still an­ Fine business for the Government, is it not? It is like a lot other year. It is attractive. They want to love it a little of other things. We hire the money at 1 percent, because longer. It is very much like the man who wanted to say the concern is backed by the Government, and then we try good-bye to his wife who was going away on a certain train. to put out of business other finance companies all over the He asked the porter if he had time enough, and the porter United States, which, of course, have not any government simply said, "How long have you been married?" [Laughter.] back of them. With reference to the C. C. C. camps, and speaking on The E. H. F. A. can discount its paper at 1 percent, yet you behalf of New England, in my own congressional district ridicule General Motors because it has to charge 8 percent. even, the directors of the chamber of commerce in my county All over this vast cotmtry of ours people who need auto­ voted to allow two of these C. C. C. camps go without any mobiles have to go to these finance companies, and the com­ remonstrance whatever. We were glad to help the admin­ petition of the finance companies themselves bas really got istration reduce the expenses in connection with these set­ the rate down as low as they can make it in all probability, ups for relief purposes. but just because it is not a private or public utility, the man This E. H. F. A. was an organization set up by the use of who wants an automobile or many other similar useful a part of the $3,300,000,000, and the Congress had nothing things is not to be eligible for such privileges as are given to say about it. this T. V. A. class. Mr. Speaker, this is simply an offshoot of that remarkable You cannot long fool the public. The trouble over here is T.V. A. experiment, of which Norman Thomas said, "It is the that you have been trying to see eye to eye with the Presi­ only perfect socialistic experiment I know about." The ques­ dent of the United States so long that some of you have tion is, How long should we support private purchases on become cross-eyed, as someone ha.s said. [Laughter.] the installment plan by the use of the public credit? We The gentleman from New Jersey will talk about the entire knew little about the second Executive order covering up T.V. A., concerning which he is entirely familiar. However, the $150,000,000 which was lost in the formation of the new I have studied this set-up. We know it has probably been a corporation. good thing for you who are in this small favored area. We Mr. COX. Will the gentleman yield? There was no Ex­ know what this Government socialist experiment has done ecutive order covering up anything. for you and how pleased you are to be thus favored in these Mr. GIFFORD. All right. The President set up this Dela­ three or four States. Do not try to fool us over here by ware corporation. Finally another was set up here in Wash­ saying you are going greatly to broaden its sphere and apply ington as a different corporation. As the gentleman state~ it over the entire country. its capital was reduced because they only had $850,000 any­ Then, again, even some of you on this side of the House, how, $150,000 having been used up. while trying to go along with the administration, rather Mr. COX. The gentleman means $150,000, I am sure. doubt the wisdom of having high-pressure salesmen go to all Mr. GIFFORD. I thank the gentleman. We get so used these people,.even within the T.V. A. district, and urge them to talking about millions and billions of dollars that I cannot to go into debt; but this is the way this administration is get down to these low figures. trying to bring about prosperity-:-bY getting everybody to go If you are boastful of the remarkable results of this thing, into debt and making debtors of them all. Especially do you may I say that anyway you have only spent a million and a seem to care but little about adding to the indebtedness of half. You could not have brought about a very wonderful the Government itself. condition with the expenditure of that amount of money. Then they say, "We have not lost anything lately, and You will try to make it appear today that the activities of the there will be no drain on the Treasury." How shrewd they corporation will be greatly broadened. Today, however, you now are. They do not discount this note for the dealer until only have 20 contracts in Illinois and two in Ohio. All the they are sure they have recourse to the dealer, and the rest of the 8,000 contracts are within that little T.V. A. circle. dealer has to stand a pretty strict examination before they We are told indirectly that you will not help New England will lend him the money. They take very few chances, but unless you can come in there and force the power companies they have lent for only 3 or 4 years. However, this venture to come down in their rates to suit you. They will have to do is rather new, and repossessions have occurred in only 200 that before you will do business with them. Then you are cases. They have made 8,000 contracts and they have had going to say to our dealers, as you did to these other dealers: to repossess only 200, but before the 4 years are up they "CUt out these frills on refrigerators. Do not charge $300. may have to repossess a great many more. Also they have Charge only $150. Bring it down to that figure and we will to rely upon the dealer, and there may be some dealers who finance you." The statement is made that. this corporation will do a lot of business under high-pressure salesmanship has made $97,000. Well, deferred earnings are queer profits and may possibly fail. They may also have to take over the to me. They have the contracts, but let us see how this thing repossessed property of such dealers. They may have to works out. take over the washing machine that "has been injured by Mr. SNELL. Will the gentleman yield? so many suds being passed through it", as one of the com­ Mr. GIFFORD. I yield to the gentleman from New York. mittee expressed it. They may suffer some real losses. How­ Mr. SNELL. On page 18 of the report of the committee ever, that is not the particular point at issue--profit or loss. it is stated that on the 1st of July last there was a surplus Should this House continue to allow the public credit to be 4336 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE MARCH 25 constantly and continuously devoted to some particular sec­ Mr. RANKIN. Mr. Speaker, I move a call of the House. tion of the country? The niotion was agreed to. Private industry has resettlement schemes, slum clear­ The Clerk called the roll and the following Members failed ance, subsistence homesteads, and other things aided with to answer to their names: Government funds to combat. I am sure the gentleman [Roll No. 49] from Dlinois can tie the activities of this · organization up Adair Dear Kee Rogers, N. H. with the activities of other organizations, resulting in over­ Allen Doutrlch Kennedy, Md. Romjue lapping conditions. Amlie Driver Kocialkowski Rudd Andrews, N.Y. Duffy, N.Y. Kvale Sa bath Oh, how long, how long shall we continue to operate the Binderup Eckert Lewis, Md. Sanders, La. Government for the benefit of some private organizations Bland Eicher Luckey Schulte Brennan Englebrlght McGroarty Sisson or some people in certain particular localities? But, anyWay, Brooks Evans McReynolds Steagall do not today tell us, "Oh, it is going to spread all over the Buckbee Fish McSwain Sumners, Tex. United States." We do not want it. The principle is wrong. Buckley, N. Y. Flannagan Maas Sutphin Bulwinkle Fulmer Marshall Thomas I think you have had a long trial and that now private Burch Gray, Ind. Martin, Mass. Tobey business ought to be permitted to come back and take over Cannon, Wis. Greenway May Treadway Carmichael · Greever Montague Underwood these things. Let no more speeches from this side of the Cartwright Guyer Nichols Wilson, La. House portray the marvelous prosperity which you have been Claiborne Haines O'Day Wolcott painting lately as having been brought about by these Clark, Idaho Halleck Oliver Wood Collins Hartley Perkins Zioncheck alphabetical agencies. Connery · Hobbs Plumley I may remind you again that all this prosperity and all Cooper, Ohio Hoeppel Rabaut these schemes, like this E. H. F. A., are suspended from way Darden Hook Robsion, Ky. up here [indicating] by one alphabetical support-the The SPEAKER. Three hundred and forty-nine Members I 0 U-that and the public credit. are present, a quorum. They are all suspended from that one support, and all that Mr. COX. Mr. Speaker, I move to dispense with further is really going to remain is thirty-six million and a half proceedings under the call. dollars of debt at the end of the fiscal year 1937. The motion was agreed to. Mr. HANCOCK of North carolina. Will the gentlema.Il. Mr. RANSLEY. Mr. Speaker, I yield 15 minutes to the yield? gentleman from New Jersey [Mr. McLEAN]. Mr. GIFFORD. I yield. Mr. McLEAN. Mr. Speaker, I take it that, irrespective of Mr. HANCOCK of North Carolina. Is the gentleman op­ how meritorious or altruistic the ends to be attained may be, posed to this Electric Home and Farm Authority operating in we, as Members of the Congress of the United States, are his State? particularly interested in the legality of the method and the Mr. GIFFORD. Yes; I am opposed to any ·such thing. safety of the means by which those ends are to be attained. For instance, I read of one city in a neighboring State having Therefore I am not so much concerned at this time with the had an allotment of $800,000 for slum clearance, and there ~ object and purposes of this corporation as I am with the not a slum in it. [Laughter.] means which have been adopted for carrying on its activi­ Mr. CREAL. Will the gentleman yield? ties. The Electric Home and Farm Authority of the District Mr. GIFFORD. I will yield briefly. - of Columbia is a corporation organized under the laws of the Mr. CREAL. Can the gentleman suggest any remedy to District of Columbia, the successor of a private corporation bring about his suggestion? organized under the laws of the State of Delaware by those Mr. GIFFORD. Yes; the Democratic platform of 1932 who constituted the Tennessee Valley Authority. It is said [laughter l, the platform you had but never put into opera­ that in sections 1, 2, and 208 of the National Recovery Act tion-! should like to try it. [Laughter.J authority is vested in the President of the United States to Mr. KELLER. Is the gentleman in favor of that? authorize or command the incorporation of such an organi­ Mr. GIFFORD. Most of it. But you have spent all of our zation and constitute it an agency of the United States. I money, and when we come into power we will not have a shall not take the time now to read those sections but shall dollar to use for any new purposes; you have spent it all. incorporate them in my remarks so that gentlemen may You have built the new Government house, and we must refresh their memory. I venture to say that there is not a live in it and try to pay for it gradually by the sort of Member of this House who will say to me after having read economy and balanced budgets which you promised in that those sections that by any rule of statutory construction he platform. has the slightest idea that they confer upon the President Mr. MORAN rose. . of the United States the right to incorporate, under State Mr. GIFFORD. I will yield to the gentleman from Maine. law, corporations to carry on Federal activities. Mr. MORAN. Did the ·gentleman favor the platform of SECTION 1. A national emergency productive of widespread unem­ ployment and disorganization of industry, which burdens inter­ 1932? state and foreign commerce, affects the public welfare, and under­ Mr. GIFFORD. I have said here many times, although it mines the standards of living of the American people, is hereby would seem that the gentleman could not have been present, declared to exist. It is hereby declared to be the policy of Congress that I am for the platform of 1932, or much of it. But you to remove obstructions to the free fiow of interstate and foreign commerce which tend to diminish the amount thereof and to pro­ have thrown it wholly aside. It is still new, "having never vide for the general welfare by promoting the organization o:f been used." industry !or the purpose of cooperative action among trade groups. Mr. MORAN. I .asked if the gentleman favored the plat­ to induce and maintain united action of labor and management form in 1932? under adequate governmental sanctions and supervision. to eliml­ nate unfair competitive practices, to promote the fullest possible Mr. GIFFORD. I favor the most of it. I differ with a utilization of the present productive capacity of industries, to few of the principles. You said in it that you were going avoid undue restriction of production (except as may be tempo-­ to abolish useless bureaus. We were in favor of that. You rarily required) , to increase the consumption of industrial and agricultural products by increasing purchasing power, to reduce said you would balance the Budget, and we were in favor and relieve unemployment, to improve standards of labor, and of that. otherwise to rehabilitate industry and to conserve natural resources.. The SPEAKER pro tempore XRATIVE AGENCIES the gentleman from Massachusetts has expired. SEC. 2. (a) To effectuate the policy of this title, the President 1s Mr. SNELL. Mr. Speaker, this is a very important bill. hereby authorized to establish such agencies, to accept and utilize I such voluntary and uncompensated services, to appoint, without and very few Members are present. make the point of regard to the pr ovisions of the civil-service laws, such omcers and order that there is no quorum present. employees, and to u t ilize such Federal officers and employees, an~ The SPEAKER pro tempore

Morgan, Knoxville, Tenn.; David E. Lilienthal, Knoxville, Tenn. I WISe to change the corporation and put It mto different hands, Commodity Credit Corporation, incorporated October 17, 1933. and it is justified in the repart on the ground that it is an

Authorized capital, 30,000 share_s, par value ~1oo. Resident agent,_ I adjunct· of the Reconstruction Finance Corporation; that Corporation Trust Co., Industrial Trust Bllllding. Incorporators: . . . . te Henry A. Wallace, Washington. D. c.; Henry Morgenthau, Jr., they had ~he right to mcorporate It. Can a subor~ma washington, D. c.; Oscar Johnston, Washington, D. c. body of this Government create governmental agencies by Public works Emergency Leasing Corporation, incorporated Jan- organizing private corporations? Can the Reconstruction uary 3, 1934. Authorized capital, 3 shares, ~thout par value. Finance Corporation create agencies which to them seem Resident agent Corporation Trust Co., Industrial Trust Building. . · t• th ·t f th c Incorporators: Harold L. Ickes, Washington, D. c.; oscar L. Chap- proper Without any cons1dera IOn or au on Y rom e on- man, Washington, D. c.; Theodore A. Walters, Washington. D. c. gress? We might as well say that the Supreme Court of the All of the above-named companies are in existence and in good United States can establish inferior courts and outline their standing except the Public Works Emerg~ncy Leasing Corporation, jurisdiction as to adopt any such doctrine as that. [Ap- which filed surrender of corporate franchiSe on J~nuary 2, 1935. . ] Austin Homesteads, Inc., incorporated January 16, 1934. . Pause.1 . Duluth Subsistence Homesteads, Inc., incorporated March 17, The SPEAKER. The trme of the gentleman from New 1934. . Jersey LMr. McLEAN] has expired. 29~i~~~~n Homesteads of MlSsissippi, Inc.• incorporated December . Mr. COX. Mr. Speaker, I yield the remainder of my . Chancellorsvtlle Homestead Community, Inc., incorporated De- time to the gentleman from Alabama [Mr. HILL]. cember 12, 1933. · The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Alabama is recog- Jersey Homesteads, Inc., incorporated December 12, 1933. . d f minutes · Penderlea Homestea.d.s, Inc., incorporated December 13, 1933. ruze or 9 · . . . Tygart Valley Homesteads, Inc., incorporated December 12, 1933. Mr. IDLL of Alabama. Mr. Speaker, It 1S true that the Laurel Homesteads of Mississippi, Inc., incorporated December charter of this corporation, the Electric Home and Farm 29, 1933. Authority as a District of Columbia corporation, would not 19~~oning Garden Homesteads, Inc., inco_rporated December 20~ expire uz{til next August; but it is equally true that the J936 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 4339 corporation would cease to function as a governmental of the great problems of the utilities is to build up their agency on April 1 of this year, unless the bill is passed. The power load, and nothing builds up the load like the installa­ purpose of the bill is to extend the life of the corporation tion of electrical appliances. In 1934 the manufacturers as a governmental agency from April 1 for the period of 10 of electrical appliances in the United States gave quotas to months, until Februal\7 1, 1937. the different dealers throughout the country. In the State Mr. SNELL. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield? of Georgia, where the corporation was operating, the deal­ Mr. HILL of Alabama. I cannot yield at this point. I ers obtained the extraordinary high mark of 353.4 percent have only a few minutes. of the quota assigned to them in the sale of these appliances. Mr. Speaker; my good friend the gentleman from New In Tennessee the dealers attained 234 percent. In my State Jersey has spoken of the salaries of the officers of the cor­ of Alabama they attained 235 percent of their quota. The poration as though great salaries had been piled up and Tennessee Electric Power Co. last year was awarded the pay rolls had been padded. The truth about it is that the Edison Institute medal for showing the largest increase in corporation has today only 22 employees, and the salaries business of any power company in the country. This Cor­ paid these 22 employees are strictly in line with the salaries poration made it possible tor the people to buy the appli­ provided by the - Class~fication Act for the general ·employees ances that made the market for the power, and the Tennes­ , of the Government.. see Electric Power Co. won the medal. Under the Executive order of the President the books and What we wish to do now is to make it possible for the accounts of the corporation are audited and checked by the Farm Bureau Federation in Ohio to begin its program to Comptroller General just as are the accounts of the other electrify the farms in that State. The Ohio Farm Bureau departments of our Government. is today in negotiation with the Electric Home and Farm One reason for changing this corporation from a Delaware Authority, working out a plan to take these appliances and corporation to a District of ColUmbia corporation was to put blessings of · electricity to the farm people of Ohio. One it in-a better position to the end that its operations might not hundred and thirty-six different associations, companies, or be localized in the Tennessee Valley. The Delaware corpora­ plants in 36 ditierent States are in contact with the cor­ tion had as its directors the three directors of the Tennessee poration-all looking to the benefit of millions of people in Valley Authority. the country. The corporation and its operations are an Mr. SNELL. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield? integral and important part of the New Deal power pro­ Mr. HILL of Alabama. I am sorry I cannot yield; I have gram. The President wants this bill passed. The people no time to yield. want this bill passed. Let us do our part and pass it. In order that the corporation might not be localized in Mr. COX. Mr. Speaker, I move the previous question on its activities to the Tennessee Valley, that it might be in a the resolution. better position to extend its advantages and benefits through­ The SPEAKER. The question is on ordering the previous out the country, to all of the States, the District of Columbia question. corporation was organized. Eight of its trustees come from The previous question was ordered. the Reconstruction Finance Corporation and one from the The SPEAKER. The question is on the passage of the Rural Electrification Authority. We in the Tennessee Valley resolution. have in the past received the benefits to be derived from this The question was taken; and on a division (demanded by corporation. The benefits to follow the passage of this bill Mr. SNELL) there ~ere-ayes 106, noes 30. today should go in large measure to people in other sections Mr. SNELL. Mr. Speaker, I object to the vote on the of the country. ground there is not a quorum present. The corporation today is on a sound, businesslike, eco­ nomical basis. It is in no way attempting to subsidize the The SPEAKER. Evidently there is not a quorum present. sale or purchase of these electrical appliances, but it does The Doorkeeper will close the doors, the Sergeant at Arms provide a means whereby the consumers can purchase these will notify the absent Members, and the Clerk will call the roll. electrical appliances at fair and reasonable financing rates The question was taken; and there were-yeas 260, nays 71, and upon long terms of credit. not voting 99, as follows: Mr. MAY. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield? [Roll No. 50] Mr. HILL of Alabama. I am sorry, but I cannot yield; YEAS-260 I simply have not the time. Ashbrook Cox Fletcher Kennedy, N.Y. Ayers Cravens Ford, Cal1!. Kerr . Mr. Speaker, to show how sound this corporation is in its Bankhead Creal Ford, Miss. Kleberg . business affairs, it is today borrowing money from private Barden Crosby Frey Kloeb Barry Cross, Tex. Gambrill Knl.ffin . banks for three-fourths of 1 percent. It is today earning Beiter Crosser, Ohio Gassaway Kopplemann its operating expenses. It has not sustained a single credit Bell Crowe Gavagan Kramer .loss and it has not had to repossess a single electrical appli­ Berlin CUllen Gearhart Lambertson Biermann Curley Gehrmann Lambeth ance. The truth is that it is not going to sustain any real Bland Deen Gilchrist Lanham losses for the reason that whenever it finances the purchase Blanton Delaney Gildea Larrabee of electrical appliances the purchaser makes the contract Bloom Dempsey Gingery Lea, Call!. Boehne . DeRouen Goldsborough Lee, Okla. over to the dealer. The dealer in turn assigns the contract Boileau Dickstein Granfield Lemke to the corporation and also endorses the purchaser's note Boland Dies Gray,Pa. Lesinski Boykin Dietrich Green Lewis, Colo. and goes still further and signs a contract of repurchase, Boylan .Dingell Greenwood Lucas agreeing that in the event there should be any default he, Brown, Ga. Disney Gregory Ludlow ·the dealer, will repurchase the contract. The corporation Brown, Mich. Dobbins Griswold Lundeen Buchanan Dockweller Gwynne McAndrews has reduced the interest rates on the purchase price of these Buck Dorsey Hancock, N.C. McClellan electrical appliances on an average of from 12 percent to Buckler, Minn. Doughton Harlan McCormack between 6 percent and 7 percent. It has permitted the pri­ Caldwell Doxey Hart McFarlane cannon, Mo. Drewry Healey McGehee vate utilities to go into fields where private capital in the Cannon, Wis. Duffey, Ohio Higgins, Mass. McGrath past has been unwilling to venture. It is giving to the peo­ Carpenter Dutfy, N. Y. Hildebrandt McKeough in in Cartwright Duncan Hill, Ala. McLaughlin ple out on the farms, the small townships, the small Casey Dunn, Miss. Hill, Knute McMillan communities, as well as in the cities, the opportunity to have Castellow Dunn,Pa. Hook McSwain the benefits and blessings of these electrical appliances Chandler Eagle Houston Mahon Chapman Eckert Huddleston Marcantonio which they never had before. Through the financing of Citron Edmiston Hull Martin, Colo. this corporation the people in these places are able to get Clark, N.C. Eicher Jacobsen Mason these benefits. Cochran EkWall J enckes, Ind. Massingale Coffee Ellenbogen Johnson, Okla. Maverick This is a recovery measure. It raises the standard of Colden Faddis Johnson, Tex. Mead living of the purchasers. It provides business for the dealers Cole,Md. Farley Johnson, W.Va. Meeks Colmer Ferguson Jones Merritt, N.Y. . in electrical appliances, and it has done much to provide Cooley Fiesinger Keller Miller the utilities, the power companies, with a power l.Qad. One Cooper, Tenn. Fitzpatrick Kelly Mitchell, m. 4340 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD- HOUSE MARCH 25

.Mitchell, Tenn. Pey~ ~h~ Thomason Mr. Gray .of Indiana with Mr. Rogers .of New Hampshire.. Monaghan Pfeifer Schulte 'Thompson 'Mr. Adair with Mr. Celler. Moran Pierce Scott - Tolan Mr. Shannen with Mr. Kee. Moritz Polk ~am Tonry Mr. Daly with Mr. Luckey. Murdock ~ Sears Turner Mr. Thom with Mr. Evans. Nelson Ramsa""f Secrest Um-stead Mr. Montet wtth Mr. Zionchet:k. Nichols · Ra.mspeek Shanley Utterback Mr. Sisson with Mr. Clark of Idaho. Norton Randolph Smith, Conn. Vinson, Ga. Mr. Haines with Mr. Sanders of Louisiana. O'Brien Rankin Smith, Va. Vmson,Ky. Mr. Claiborne wtth Mr. Kennedy of Maryland. O'Connell Ra""fburn Smith, Wash. Wallgren Mr. Cummings with Mr. Snyder of Pennsylvania. O'Connor Reece Smith, W. Va. Walter Mr. Fernandez with Mr. Young. O'Day Reilly South Wearin Mr. .Maloney with Mr. Wood.- O'Leary Richards Spence Weaver Mr. Dear wtth Mr. Somers of New York. O'Malley Richardson Btack Welch Mr. Lewis of Maryland with Mr. .Imhoff. O'Neal Robertson Starnes Werner Mr. Brennan with Mr. SirGvich. Palmisano Robinson, Utah · Stefan West Mr. Gasque with Mr. Binderup: Parks Rogers, Qkla. Stubbs Whelchel Mr. Dard-en with Mr. Hobbs. Parsons Russell Sullivan White Mr. Greever With Mr. Gille-tte. Patman Ryan .Sutphin Whittington Mrs. Greenway with Mr- Buckley of New York. Patterson Sabath Sweeney Wilcox Mr. Koclalkowski With Mr. llennlngs. P~tton Sanders, Tex. Tarver Williams Mr. Hamlin wtth Mr. WilSGn of Louisiana. Pearson Sandlin Tayi"()r, Colo. Withrow Peterson, Fla. Sauthotr Taylor, s. C. Wolverton Mr. WOLVERTON changed his vote from "nay" to "yea." Peterson, Ga. Schaefer Taylor, Tenn. Woodrum The doors were opened. .Pettengill Schneider, Wis. Terry Zimmerman The result of the vote was· announced as above recorded. NAYB-71 Andresen Crowther Jenkins, Ohio Ransley RELIEF TO FLOOD SUFFERERS IN OHIO ltESUL'l'ING FROM FLOODS IN Andrew, Mass. Culkin Kahn Reed, Ill. THE OIDO VALLEY . Arends Darrow Kenney Rich Bacharach Dirksen Kinzer Rogers, Mass. Mr. JENKINS of Ohio. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous Bacon Ditter Knutson Seger eonsent to extend my remarks in the REoo:nn. B1ackney Dondero Lehlba.ch .Short Bolton Eaton McLee.n Sn-ell The SPEAKER. Is there objection? Brewster Engel McLeod Stewart There was no objection. Burnham Penerty Main Taber Carlson Focht Mapes Thurston Mr. JENKINS of Ohio. Mr. Speaker, ladies and gentle­ C&rter Goodwln Martin, Mass. Tobey men of the House, I have this day introduced the following Cavi.cehta Hancock, N. Y. May Turpin Christianson Hartley Merritt, Conn. Wadsworth House joint resolutio~: Church Hess Michener Wigglesworth Resolved, .etc., That there be hereby appropriated from any un­ Cole,N. Y. Higgtns, Conn. Millard Wllson, Pa. -allocated. -and unappropriated balances remaining from the appro­ Collins Hoffman Mott Wolfenden priation made available by reason of Public Resolution No. 11 of Costello Holmes Pittenger Woodrutf the Congress the sum of $.1,000,00(} to be used to Powers Seventy-f-ourth Crawford Hope relieve suffering and remove menaces to public health and rehabUl­ NOT VOTING-99 tate stricken families and business concerns in 'the State or Ohio Adair Doutrlch Holtister Robsion, Ky. resulting from the recent floods in the Ohio Rive-r Valley. Said Allen Driscoll Imhoff Rogers, N. H. moneys to be distributed immediately and under the direction of Amlie Driver Kee R-omjue the Adm.irustrator of the Works Progress Administration. · Andrews, N.Y. Englebright Kennedy, Md. Rudd Beam Evans Koci&lkowski Sa'dowsld The is for about 115 miles the southern bound- Binderup Fernandez Xvale Sanders, La. . ary .of the district which I have the honor to represent. It is Brennan Fish Lamneck Shannon Brooks Flannagan Lewis, Md. Siro'Vich a majestie river. It is ronsidered the m.ost beautiful river in Buckbee Fuller Lord Sisson America and is better equipped to carry river traffic than Buckley, N.Y. Fulmer Luckey SnYnt County, filed with Dr. Mr. Montague with Mr. Hoffman. Carl Watson, Ohio W. P. A. chief., by Edgar .R. Cochrun., steuben­ Mr. Steagall with Mr. Fish. Mr. Lam:neck with Mr. Buckbee. ville, representing the American Legion in Jefferson.. Belm.ont, and Mr. Rom.jue with Mr. Andrews of New York. Columbiana Counties. . Mr. Brooks with Mr.. .Englebright. The -cities ami towns covered by i:his report are Wellsville, Port Mr. Cary With Mr. Burdick. Romer, 'Stratton. Empire, Tor-onto, Costonia, Steubenville, .Mingo Mr. Rudd With Mr. Amlie. Junction. Brilliant, Warrenton, Martins Ferry. 'Bridgeport, Bellatre, Mr. Owen With Mr. Kvale. .and Powhatan. 1936 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 4341 In addition, there are in the total a large number of stricken ice and as a tribute to the First Lady of our land, Mrs. homes along this route that are not in any incorporated city or town. T11e total number of homes that were rendered uninhabit­ Franklin D. Roosevelt. able by the flood is conservatively estimated at 3,000. This poem, The Lady Eleanor, artistically engrossed within A great many of thEse are mill families of foreign extraction, and a beautiful frame, is this day being presented to Mrs. Roose­ the average per family runs high. The number of homeless people from Wellsville to Powhatan is not less than 15,000, and it may be velt at a banquet tendered in her honor at the Mayflower substantially higher. by the 73 Club, comprising the wives of the Senators and Saturday and Sunday we covered the entire area and inspected Representatives who entered upon their duties initially as many of the homes. Some had been wholly submerged for 6 to 18 Members of the Seventy-third Congress. hours. Others were inundated over the second story. The resi­ dential areas were clogged with sludge, silt, and debris, and the It is an honor and a privilege to include this poem in the dwelling-house floors were similarly atiected. The personal-prop­ records of this Congress: erty loss in clothing, furniture, and foodstutis cannot be calculated. Local agencies, with help from outside commun.lties, have met THE LADY ELEANOR the immediate emergency needs of food, medicine, and shelter. The The roads that stretch from east to west, refugees are crowded into school buildings, churches, and public The high roads and all the rest, and private halls. The health hazard is very great, as sanitation The roads that go facilities are wholly inadequate. These unfortunate people are Where all men know, _ chiefly workers without surplus resources and with small credit Where men have come and gone before-­ privileges. - rhey know the Lady Eleanor. The task of rehabilitating their houses, refurnishing their homes, They hear her footsteps. And the grass and caring for them until they can safely reoccupy their homes is Of fields and meadows sees her pass completely beyond the financial capacity of their local communi­ On tireless quests. Where rivers bend ties. A quarter of a million dollars made immediately available to And oceans wait and wide lands end; the municipal authorities of this area would probably sumce to The miles that wind from shore to shore-- · control the threat of pestilence, render habitable these homes, and They know the Lady Eleanor. · equip them with modest quotas of necessary furniture. The job is essentially one of local _rehabilitation, and our con­ What seeks the Lady Eleanor sidered judgment is that it could best be handled by the regularly In her wide quests fro~ shore to shore? constituted local authorities. If the task is not done promptly, She seeks the faltering heart, and they ·much worse conditions will certainly eventuate. Who bear the burden of the- day, The crisis calls for prompt action. If authority is lacking, the The steps that lag, the faiths that fail Congress is in session and should immediately enact emergency In the bleak hovels of travail, legislation not only for the area covered by this report but for all The eyes that sorrow dims with tears, of the districts which have sutiered in the recent floods. The soul that cringes in its fears, And all who in the shadows grope This disastrous flood in its irresistible course inundated a To find the vanished door of hope. large amount of territory in my district, beginning at Hock­ So fares she with a word of cheer ingport and ending at Haverhill. It maintained its repu­ To leave in places dark and drear, tation for causing damage, destruction, inconvenience, and And with a smile that leaves a light ill health. In the cities and towns thousands of people were Like sunlight through the gloom of night. Upon ~er quest from shore to shore ·forced to abandon their ground floors and move upstairs. So fares the Lady Eleanor. Hundreds of businesses, large and small, were forced to move -John Steven McGroarty. out and build against the floods approach. Now that the ELECTRIC HOME AND FARM AUTHORITY waters have receded in hundreds of stores and thousands of homes there is the unsightly mud and filth and debris which Mr. GOLDSBOROUGH. Mr. Speaker, I move that the 'brings such discouragement as would challenge the fortitude House resolve itself into the Committee of the Whole House of the most stalwart. These people have been heroic in the on the state of the Union for the consideration of the bill (S. past, and they will clean up again if they can. Financial 3424) to c;ontinue Electric Home and Farm Authority as an ·and business depression has already staggered many of them, agency of the United States until February 1937, and for ·and the damages caused by this flood will be an additional other purposes. · burden that many of them cannot bear. Government as­ The motion was agreed to. sistance that will help restore the homeless to their .homes Accordingly the House resolved itself into the Committee and to rehabilitate those whose hopes are crushed and whose of the Whole House on the state of the Union for the con­ personal belongings are practically destroyed would be real sideration of the bm s. 3424, with Mr. DEMPSEY in the chair. charity and would be money well spent. Many of the villages The Clerk read the title of the bill. and municipalities in the wake of this flood are so financially The first reading of the bill was dispensed with. depressed as to be unable to provide the necessary means Mr. DIRKSEN. Mr. Chairman, I yield ~0 minutes to the to clean the streets and alleys and thereby remove the· gentleman from New York [Mr. SNELL]. danger of an epidemic. It is my hope that the feet of those Mr. SNELL. Mr. Chairman, in considering a matter of in whose hands rests public charity will run readily to the this character, I think it is well, as far as we are able to 1·elief of these destitute, who are destitute without any fault do so, to have the absolute facts before the House. of their own but by reason of a great, natural, superhuman I had a little discussion earlier in the afternoon with the calamity. Now is the time that relief is needed. Two weeks gentleman from Georgia [Mr. CoxJ, when he stated there from now may be too late. were no losses up to the present time and that, as a matter Out of this great calamity I hope there will arise such a of fact, they were running at a profit and there was no public sentiment as will encourage the formation and com­ chance of loss to the Federal Government. pletion of relief programs that wi_ll ultimately put an end If I can understand statements, and I have the statement to these destructive annual calamities. that was filed with the committee, I presume by the corpo­ THE LADY ELEANOR ration itself, right here, I maintain that this organization Mr. KENNEY. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent to has lost money every single day since it started and is losing extend my remarks in the RECORD. money at the present time, and I will prove it by your own The SPEAKER. Is there objection? statement. There was no objection. This organization started out with $1,000,000 of capital. Mr. KENNEY. Mr. Speaker, my dear friend and colleague, When the assets were taken over by the new organization, Representative McGROARTY, poet laureate of the State of less than 2 years later incorporated in the District of Colum­ California, is firmly entrenched in and endeared to the hearts bia, there was $857,000 of assets or a loss up to that time of of his people. The Nation's Capital, no less than his own $143,000. At the time the new corporation set up for busi­ State, holds him in high esteem and affectionate regard. ner:3 on the 1st of August 1935, according to the statement His love and compassion for humanity are known full well here in your own hearings, their assets were $857,132. From throughout the length and breadth of our country. that date to February 29 the operating deficit was $4,452 Out of the broodings of his heart he has written his master­ and the reserve for losses was $4,060, or-an operating deficit piece--a precious poem-in recognition of her humane serv- of $8,512. 4342 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE MARCH 25 Notwithstanding this statement, which comes from your Mr. GOLDSBOROUGH. If the gentleman says that the own committee, gentlemen get up here on the floor and say statement shows a loss, I do not agree with him. it has been operating at· a profit. Mr. SNELL. If the gentleman is going to put in what he If I have made a mistake in my computation, or if any­ says they have saved the women of America, that is another body wants to refute these facts, I will yield to him to do so. thing, but from your own statement from your own com-­ Mr. HILL ·of Alabama. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman mittee you are losing money. yield? Mr. MAY. Will the gentleman yield? Mr. SNELL. I yield. Mr. SNELL. I will yield to the gentleman briefly. Mr. HTIL of Alabama. The gentleman is right to this Mr. MAY. Just to show that this report states that the extent-- thing is a losing proposition from the beginning, I call the Mr. SNELL. I am right as far as the actual figures are gentleman's attention to a few lines on page 3 of the com· concerned. mittee report: Mr. HILL of Alabama. 'Ib.ey are making their operating Private capital does not consider it profitable to do an install­ expenses today. ment lending business in such areas. Private ut111ty companies have indicated a willingness to cooperate 1n the rural-electrifica­ Mr. SNELL. The statement I gave was up to February 29, tion program by building new power lines to serve rural areas. and they had not made them up to that time. Have you a later statement? And so forth. Mr. HILL of Alabama. · No; they made them during the Mr. SNELL. I agree with the gentleman that that cannot month of February, but there were large expenditures in the be done. beginning amounting . to nearly $150,000. Mr. MAY. And they lost $165,000 the first year. Mr. SNELL. We have gone past that date. Mr. SNELL. I want now to refer to another statement made by the gentleman from Maryland [Mr. GoLDSBOROUGH], Mr. IllLL of Alabama. No; if you are going to get the and also by the gentleman from Alabama [Mr. HILLJ. Both entire picture you have got to go back to the beginning and tried to give the impression to the House that it was neces .. bring it up to date. sary to have a new corporation in order to expand this work Mr. SNELL. I have brought it to date, and it is a loss all through other States of the Union. Is not that correct? the way. I have your statement right here and you had Mr. HILL of Alabama. Yes; but I want to say-­ assets of $857,000 on the 1st of August of last year; and Mr. SNELL. Oh, is it not a fact? according this statement the operating deficit up to Feb­ to Mr. HILL of Alabama. If the gentleman wants me to an· ruary 29, the last statement before us, was over $4,000; and swer that question, I shall answer it in my own way. Under when you put up your reserve for losses of $4,000 or more the the old corporation the directors of the corporation were actual loss is $8,060. Does anyone deny that? the directors of the Tennessee Valley Authority, and what Mr. HilL of Alabama. These reserves are assets. they wanted to do was to have the members of the corpora· Mr. SNELL. No; they are not; they are reserves to offset­ tion general rather than localized in the Tennessee Valley, losses in their many contracts. You can see that from this and one reason for setting up a new corporation was to statement. Reserves are in the liability column always. get rid of the T.V. A. directors and set up some new direc· Mr. HILL of Alabama. It is true that they did expend tors named from the R. F. C. and the Rural Electrification $150,000 in the beginning under the Delaware corporation. Authority personnel. Mr. SNELL. I am talking now from the beginning-Au­ Mr. SNELL. But it was -not necessary to get a new cor .. gust 1935-when the new corporation took over the assets of poration to get rid of those directors. the old one. Mr. HTIL of Alabama. That was one reason they did it, Mr. is HILL of Alabama. It true that when they first took and another is that the power under the Delaware corpora­ over the assets they did not make all expenses, but they are tion was so wide that the Comptroller General was con­ making them now. - stantly calling attention to the fact that the corporation Mr. SNELL. You only had $201 credit for February and had too much power, and that it ought to be limited to the had did not make any allowance for reserves. You $875,000 specific purposes it is now limited to under the District in contracts spread over the whole country, with no reserves, incor.IX>ration. and you actually lost money. Mr. SNELL. Let me prove to the gentleman that the Mr. ~ere is HILL of Alabama. no corporation in the statement I made is correct, and I read from the testimony. world that can make money in the first months.- Mr. Hollister was interrogating Mr. Weaver, who is secretary Mr. SNELL. Then the gentleman agrees that they -lost and treasurer of this organization: money? Did the Executive order limit your operations to these three Mr. HILL of Alabama. I agree that we are making ex­ States? penses today and a little profit. Mr. WEAVER. It did not. We considered it as a subsidiary of the Mr. GOLDSBOROUGH. Will the gentleman from New T.V. A., an aid to help develop the Authority. York yield? Mr HoLLISTER. Was that in the Executive· order? Mr. SNELL. I yield. Mr: WEAVER. No, sir. Mr. GOLDSBOROUGH. I would say that there has been There was no ·order that it should be limited to that terri­ some losses in the past, but the corporation now is not losing tory anywhere. any money. I would say also that the operation of this cor­ Mr. HoLLISTER. They had full authority to operate in every State poration has saved the women of America hundreds of in the Union? thousands of .dollars. Mr. WEAVER. Yes. Mr. SNELL. '11lat is not an answer to the argument that So that proves from the testimony that it could operate in I presented. every State in the Union without this new organization. Mr. GOLDSBOROUGH. I am stating the facts. Mr. HilL of Alabama. As a practical proposition, it was Mr. SNELL. · I do not wish to yield for another speech; the not efficacious or wise to have the T.V. A. directors operat .. gentleman has already made that speech and I made no ing throughout the country. comment. The statement that the corporation ·is making Mr. SNELL. But that had nothing to do with the original money is not according to the facts. Has the gentleman any charter. statement later than February 29? The CHAffiMAN. The time of the gentleman from New Mr. GOLDSBOROUGH. The statement of February 29 York has expired. does not show a loss. Mr. DIRKSEN. Mr. Chairman, I yield the gentleman 3 Mr. SNELL. It does show a loss. It shows that they had additional minutes. $201, but you make no provision or allowance for reserves, Mr. HANCOCK of North Carolina. Will the gentleman and when you make the necessary reserves for bad accounts yield? there is a loss. Mr. SNELL. Yes. 1936. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 4343 Mr. HANCOCK of North Carolina. Is the distinguished MrJ DffiKSEN. I yield the gentleman 1 additional min- . gentleman from New York perturbed about the $200 deficit, ute, Mr. Chairman. . or is he just opposing the legislation on principle? Mr. BANKHEAD. If the people who would ordinarily com- Mr. SNELL. I am opposed to gentlemen making the state- plain -about competition agree that this is a good thing for ment on the 1loor that they are running at a profit when they their products and at the same time a good thing for the con­ are not, and I am opposed to any legislation that continues sumers of electricity in the homes where it is used, can the the Government in busmess~ especially the pawn brokerage gentleman find any legitimate objection to it? ·business. Does the gentleman understand my position now? Mr. SNELL. You can always get people who want the Mr. HANCOCK of North Carolina. I would say to the gen- Government to do something for them to temporarily agree tleman that this agency is not in business in competition to most anything, but still they are against the general prin­ with any private financing company or public utility. ciple as applied to the whole country. That is the question Mr. SNELL. Oh, yes, it is. There are thousands ot here today. Now, perhaps it is doing a little something for financing companies throughout the United States, and to you people down there, but as a general proposition, the gen­ show how efficient this Corporation is, it borrows its money tleman says himself he is opposed to it, and he ought to be at three-quarters of 1 percent, lending it at 5 percent, and opposed to it in his own country. I am opposed to it every­ still loses money. where, whether it is in my country or in the gentleman's Mr. HANCOCK of North Carolina. I repeat what I said a country or any other of the 48 States. moment ago, that this Authority is not in competition with Mr. BANKHEAD. As I understand, this is an exception any private business. This Authority is -designed to develnp to the principle which the gentleman is stating, because there business by cooperating with the utilities and without in- is not any competition. fringing upon their rights. It helps them and the borrower Mr. SNELL. Oh, there is nothing to that, and you know it. . on or purchaser of appliances. This is a happy arrangement. The CHAIRMAN. The time of the gentleman from New its purpose is to develop business in cooperation with the York [Mr. SNELL] has again expired. utilities that will assist in bringing down the interest rates Mr. GOLDSBOROUGH. Mr. Chairman, I yield 5 minutes and charges to the buying public. What could be more to the gentleman from California [Mr. FoRDJ. desirable? Mr. FORD of California. Mr. Chairman, the fiy in the Mr. SNELL. Now, the gentleman is making a speech, ointment this afternoon seems to be that the opposition is and I want to get to something else. afraid the loan sharks of the country-the finance com- Mr. HANCOCK of North Carolina. The gentleman is panies_:are going to have some of their teeth pulled by this gifted in speaking, so why not answer my statement, if he can? bill. I am rising in favor of this bill-S. 3424-and I hope Mr. SJ\TELL. Let us talk about the business before the it will pass. I am for the bill for a number of reasons, but House and not some imaginary situation. This whole ques- I want to say first that one of the reasons. I am particularly tion narrows down to whether you are in favor of continuing interested in it is that it is pulling the teeth of the loan the Government in competition with private business nr not. sharks-the finance companies-that heretofore have exacted Seven-eighths of the men on the Democratic· side of the anywhere from 16 to 25 percent interest from the purchasers House, if you talk to them confidentially and alone, will say of electrical appliances that people use in their homes. This that they are apposed to that sort of legislation. Here is the corporation provides a rate of about 7 percent, which is just opportunity to show whether they will stand up and vote as about 18 percent less than most of these loan-shark insti­ they think. There is no question before us except whether we tutions ·charge. want to do that. That is the whole question here today; and I am interested in the bill for other reasons. In the first as I told the -gentleman from North Carolina, I am absolutely place, the operations of this corporation were originally lim­ opposed to doing anything that continues the Federal Gov- ited to three States. Even in those three States it had the ernment in competition with pi"ivate business, and that is the general effect of drastically reducing financing rates not only question here, and that is why I am opposing this 1egislatio~ within that area but all over the country. Mr. BANKHEAD. Mr. ChairmanJ will the gentleman Yield? · Second, I wonder how many Members of this House will Mr. SNELL. Yes. have the hardihood to maintain that the placing of electrical Mr. BANKHEAD. Does the gentleman know of -any public- equipment in American homes does not reduce drudgery in utility company or manufacturers of any electrical appli- those homes? I am wondering if they will maintain that it ances who are opposed to this program? does not contribute to the beauty and convenience of the Mr. SNE!J:J. I am not entering into that proposition at American home? That is what the Electric Home and Farm all, because I do not know, and I am not making statements Authority has been doing, and that is why I am so heartey I do not know about. I am not interested in public utilities, in favor of extending its term of life. We want this corpo­ and I care nothing about them, so far as this is concerned. ration to be able to operate in all of the 48 States instead of I am talking about the proposition before us, and I say that only in 3 States. I am opposed to the Government's going into competition with It is making it possible for thousands of people who other- private business. Is the gentleman opposed to that? wise could not purchase electrical equipment to have it. Mr. BANKHEAD. In some mstances I am, and in some That has two effects. It builds up the power load on the I am not. power line, whether it is publicly owned or privately owned, Mr. SNELL. The gentleman -cannot be for it on one day and it creates a great backlog of employment in the areas and agamst it on the other. The gentleman would put them where the equipment is manufactured. For that reason it in business in his country, but not in mme. It is the prin- is a very sound bill. If this Authority is extended to April ciple I am opposing-whether temporarily it does help your 1, 1931, it will give the corporation an opportunity to spread part of the country. its activities all over the 48 StatesA There are requests from · Mr. BANKHEAD. Will the gentleman allow me to ask 38 states asking it to come in. Why are they asking them him another question? to do it? Private enterprises? The private loan sharks are Mr. SNELL. Yes; certainly. willing to go into that :field if they can get 22 to 30 percent, Mr. BANKHEAD. This is not m the spirit of controversy, but they are not willing to go in for 7 percent. As a result of course. of the activities of this corporation, many of those compa- Mr. SNELL. No. I want to get the facts out in regard nies have .had to reduce their rates, and that is something to this bill. . Congress should encourage. Of course, you on the Repub- Mr. BANKHEAD. We are -just trying to develop the pur- lican side have always stood for big power companies. If poses and the spirit of this bill. you want to do a favor far the big power companies, you Mr. SNELL. I am developing the facts, not -fancy. should vote for this bill, because it will build up their load The CHAIRMAN. The time of the gentleman from New and enable them to sell more appliances, and it will give York [Mr. SNELL] has again expired. them a market for more power. LXXX--275 .4344 .CONGRESSIONAL ·RECORD-HOUSE MARCH 25 Mr. CRAWFORD. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman I am not interested in loan sharks, utilities, or anything yield? else. My first objection to this bill is that the so-called board Mr. FORD of California. I yield. of trustees of the E. IL F. A. tell a utility whether or not it can Mr. CRAWFORD. The gentleman spoke of an average get the benefit of this, depending on whether its rates are low · of 7 or 8 percent. enough. [Applause.] If they are not low enough they can­ Mr. FORD of California. Yes. not get the benefit of it. Secondly, they say to the manu­ Mr. CRAWFORD. On page 4 of the report it mentions facturer of refrigerators, ~toves, ranges, pumps, cream sepa­ 4.66 percent interest per annum. rators, and so forth, that their products must pass inspec­ Mr. FORD of California. Yes. tion. For instance, let us consider the manufacturer who Mr. CRAWFORD. To what does that refer? produces an especially fine electric range-a beautiful range Mr. FORD of California. That is the face of the note. which retails for $200. They will say to him: "You have a · There are one or two little charges that bring it up to beautiful range which retails for $200. Take oft' that little · about 7 percent. oven thermometer, take some of the nickel off, and put on a lot of battleship gray instead of the ivory and green trimmings Mr. CRAWFORD. So a customer who purchases elec­ . trical equipment does not pay in excess of 7 percent? and get the price down to $140 and you can do some business with us." As a matter of fact, they are using the E. H. F. A. Mr. FORD of California. Not in excess of 7 percent. as a kind of bludgeon, as a kind of weapon, if you please, and The CHAIRMAN. The time of the gentleman from Cali­ only those manufacturers who will submit to such treatment fornia [Mr. FoRD] has expired. can get the benefit of the public's money and of the opera­ Mr. DIRKSEN. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself 15 minutes. tion of a public agency. It may be fine in theory to make Mr. Chairman, once and for all let us conclusively settle manufacturers build their wares down to a price instead of what the authority of E. H. F. A. was under its Delaware up to a standard, but usually you get what you pay for; and charter. First, it had a life of 7 years. Secondly, if you will it may be that the security of cheaper appliances over a read the charter, on page 5 you will note that it was author­ period of years will some day strike E. H. F. A. in the face. My ized to conduct its business or any part thereof in this State, objection goes far deeper, however; I am opposed to duplica­ in any State, the District of Columbia, the Territories and tion of effort among various .governmental instrumentalities colonies of the United States, and in foreign countries. That all operating in the same direction. They have set up a is from the Delaware charter, and that should settle once Rural Electrification Administration, also under a temporary and for all the field of operation in which E. H. F. A. could emergency order. What does it do? First of all it can lend work. the money over a period of 20 years at 4 percent for the pur­ The reason they worked only in the Tennessee Valley Au­ pose of wiring homes in the country. Then there is a Fed­ thority area was at the instance and direction of Harcow·t eral Housing Administration, which has authority to do a Morgan, Arthur Morgan, and David Lilienthal, who were the finance business on electrical appliances. Then we have our original directors of the T.V. A. That is the long and short little Eva, the E. H. F. A., which, if you please, does business of the matter. They were incorporated under the la.ws of on a finance basis down in the Tennessee Valley. Delaware. Touching this question of duplication, I am going to read Mr. RANKIN. Mr. will Chairman, the gentleman yield? from the hearings a statement made by the gentleman from Mr. DIRKSEN. Not just now, please. They were incor­ Michigan [Mr. BROWN], a distinguished and able member of porated under the laws of Delaware, pursuant to an Execu­ the Committee on Banking and Currency: tive order. If you will examine the Delaware charter, you I have tried to fight against legislation which brings about a will find that they are not responsible to the Congress of the duplication of Government activities. The committee knows I United States and do not have to make a report to us. made a fight on that, particularly with regard to the examination That was in January 1934. Now look at their new charter of banks, Reconstruction Finance Corporation, Federal Deposit In­ as of August 1935, and you will find they want to operate surance, the Comptroller's office, and the Federal reserve bank. We have four different authorities examining banks. until April of 1937 in all the States of the Union, which is We had a bill here a day or so ago in whlch we were asked to the right they had before, as a matter of fact, under a board extend the activities of the Electric Home and Farm Authority. of trustees carrying on precisely as they did under the Dela­ Now, having in mind that organization, of whlch you doubtless know something-and I give that as an example to you-are there ware charter. They were, however, incorporated for any other activities of the Government in addition to that one that $1,000,000 under the Delaware charter, but for only $850,000 are performing substantially the same functions that you are? under the District of Columbia charter. What happened to Perhaps I am wrong in implying that you do the same thing that . the $150,000? It was charged oft' as promotional expenses, the Electric Home and Farm Authority does, but lt seems to me they are financing the same way that you are to a certain extent. hence they dropped their capitalization. So much for this. I would like to have you tell us what, 1f any, overlapping there I am not opposed to the extension of electrification in the · is in the agencies of the Government with respect to financing - country; I am not opposed to seeing thousands and mil­ purchases. . Mr. McDoNALD. That is very interesting, because last fall we lions of families have the benefit of electric power, electric were having conversations with them. They are doing financing of ranges, refrigerators, and such things. electric utensils. Mr. MAPES. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman Yield Mr. BROWN of Michlgan. Stoves? before he leaves the question of the charters? Mr. McDoNALD. Yes; refrigerators and thlngs like that; but they confined their activities to the Tennessee Valley district, I think, at Mr. DffiKSEN. I yield. that time, and they wanted to reach out and found that their rate Mr. MAPES. What becomes of the Delaware corporation? was hlgher than ours; therefore, they receiving their money through Mr. DIRKSEN. The fact of the matter is the Delaware the Reconstruction Finance Corporation, we had some meetings . corporation is still alive. It is inactive, but its charter has with the Reconstruction Finance Corporation with the object or separating the territory, 1f we could, or in any way stopping the . not been surrendered. At the present time we have two conflict, because they had great difficulty in making progress against corporations under the E. H. F. A., one known as the Elec­ the Federal Housing Administration. Our volume of business was tric Farm and Home Authority and the other as the Electric many times greater than theirs, and we were under way, and in Farm and Home Authority, Inc. addition they required some provisions which we did not. Mr. MAPES. Does the gentleman know what it is con­ It appears to me that there you have a definite confession templated will be done with the Delaware corporation? of duplication of functions. Mr. DIRKSEN. I have no idea. It was stated they wanted The Interstate Commerce Committee of this House has re­ this to run until the 1st of April 1937, which would make it ported out a bill dealing with rural electrification, section 5 . coterminous with the end of the lending powers of the of which reads as follows: Reconstruction Finance Corporation, yet they come before SEc. 5. The · Administrator is authorized and empowered, from our committee and testify they never borrowed a dollar from the sums hereinbefore authorized, to make loans for the p-;.rrpose the R. F. C. So how far does this argument get? But let of financing the wiring of the premises of persons in rural areas and the acquisition and installation of electrical and plumbing ap­ me get to the real substance of this thing and to the reason pliances and equipment. Such loans may be made to any of the I am opposed to the bill. borrowers of funds loaned under the provisions of section 4, or to 193~ CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-· HOUSE. 4345 any person, flnn., or corporation supplying or installing the said Commerce, which bill deals ·with the sale, acquisition, and wiring, appliances, or equipment. Such loans shall be for such the financing of wiring, electrical equipment, fixtures, and terms subject to such conditions, and so secured as reasonably to assur~ repayment thereof, and shall be at a rate of interest not all of that sort of thing, he will find my statement is sub .. exceeding 3 percent per annum. stantiated. Why should we set up this temporary organiza.. They stated on this floor that the· E. H. F. A. could con­ tion when it can be incorporated under the R. E. A., if they tinue doing business on the basis of a discount of 5 percent. are going on with the rural electrification program, and have Here is a bill which they will soon present for action which it all localized in one central body? says they will finance all this for 3 percent. I am not going Mr. BANKHEAD. Will the gentleman yield? to vote for a bill to charge 5 percent when another bill is Mr. DffiKSEN. I yield to the gentleman from Alabama. being sponsored, perhaps by the administration, which will Mr. BANKHEAD. I would suggest to the gentleman that, make the charge 3 percent, the loan to run over a long period in the first place, even if the rural electrification bill passes, of which we have no assurance, although I think it will pass, of time. the gentleman must know it will take a good many months, It seems to me that we have gotten to the point where we propably a year or two, to set up the instrumentalities and have to stop this duplication of activities. I am in entire agencies for its operations under that bill. In the meantime, sympathy with an electrification program. While as a gen­ why deprive the people of the country of the benefits of eral thing I do not like to see the Federal Government go too existing law which is in nowise in competition with any.. far in competition with private business, yet I am not in­ body? sensible to the fact that there are 6,000,000 farm homes in [Here the gavel fell.] this country out of a total of 6,800,000 which do not have Mr. DmKSEN. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself 1 additional the benefit of central-station power today. Only 10 percent minute. of the farmers out in Tilinois have the benefit of central­ Mr. Chairman, I may say to the gentleman from Alabama station power. I am, therefore, in sympathy with that broad that this organization may run along some little time until program. But why do we have to have three independent a new set-up may be arranged or until some of these func .. set-ups in order to carry out such a program? For the pur­ tions may be transferred to the Federal Housing Adminis .. pose of financing the sale of appliances we have a Federal tration. The folks in the Tennessee Valley Authority area Housing Administration which has 3,832 people on the pay will not be deprived of financial services or assistance be­ roll. Their expenses for the last 9 months were something cause there is in existence already a governmental agency in the neighborhood of $12,000,000. The E. F. H. A. has only with almost unlimited money and unlimited authority to 29 on the pay roll. Their total business, however, for the carry on that program. 26 months in which they have been operating amounts to Mr. BANKHEAD. The gentleman is a member of the $1,400,000, but their expenses were $216,000, or 15 percent of Committee on Banking and Currency? their gross business. Mr. DffiKSEN. Yes. Finally, _we have the Rural Electrification Administration Mr. BANKHEAD. Does not the gentleman know that the ' with 242 people on the pay roll. They have done $9,000,000 R. E. A. bill, which it is assumed will be reported by that worth of business since being in existence, but they have committee, specifically abolishes the feature of the lending spent over $432,000. Is there any rhyme or reason, is there system to which the gentleman is objecting? any sense in the kind of a set-up where we have one gov­ Mr. DffiKSEN. No. ernmental agency which tells the farmer he can finance his Mr. GOLDSBOROUGH. Will the gentleman yield? plumbing through an office at 1020 Vermont Avenue, Wash­ Mr. DIRKSEN. I yield to the gentleman from Maryland. ington, D. C., and tells the same farmer that he can finance Mr. GOLDSBOROUGH. Does not the gentleman know a pressure bathroom system in his house through an office that the bill, which has not only been reported by the Com .. in the Tower Building, Washington, D. C., and finally that mittee on Banking and Currency but upon which the Rules he can finance the purchase of a vacuum sweeper, cleaner, Committee has allowed a rule, which bill extends the life of or washing machine through an office at 2000 Massachusetts the Federal Housing Commission until · December 31, ex .. Avenue in the city of Washington, D. C.? pressly.eli.minates electrical equipment? Mr. Chairman, it is high time these agencies were coordi­ Mr. DffiKSEN. Yes; but at the present time they have the nated. It is high time we take some of this personnel away. authority to go ahead on electrical equipment until it is It is high time we were giving attention to a promotion of changed by action of the Congress. efficiency and an elimination of bureaucracy in the efforts Following this same line of thought, only this week, the on the part of the ·Federal Government to finance the sale suggestion came from the President that he intended to ex .. and distribution of electrical appliances. If you want to amine into the matter of coordinating governmental activi .. do your constituents a favor you will defeat this bill and ties, and accordingly appointed a commission for that pur.. wait until the R. E. A. bill comes up for consideration, be­ pose. We might well give that commission a running start cause they are going to get the money for 3 percent instead by voting this measure down and doing a little coordinating of the 4.66 percent or 5 percent provided in this measure right now. and perform identical functions. The duplication of effort is an indefensible procedure which Mr. HARLAN. Will the gentleman answer a question? I only multiplies the number of people on the Government pay am sure he wants to be fair. roll and adds to the expense saddled on the taxpayer. To .. Mr. DffiKSEN. I yield to the gentleman from Ohio. day we have a Home Owners' Loan Corporation, which makes · Mr. HARLAN. The gentleman knows the extension of loans on homes and must maintain complete records and a clause l of the Federal Housing Administration Act is only huge collection agency; we have a Federal Housing Admin­ for a matter of a very few months. That is the 3-percent iStration dealing with home financing and with moderniza­ organization the gentleman is talking about. The bill which tion; little E. H. F. A. does with appliances; the F. H. A. also is to come before the House extends the life of that organi­ deals in appliances; the R. E. A. will soon get a long lease zation until December of this year. This is a matter that and a lot of money for rural electrification and appliance goes on until1937. So why bring that up? sales; the F. C. A. deals with loans on farms, livestock, feed, Mr. DffiKSEN. I may say to the gentleman that rural and seed; the Resettlement Administration deals with homes electrification is going to run on for 10 years. in satellite cities; the Suburban Resettlement Administration. Mr. HARLAN. The gentleman was making an issue of the deals with homes in so-called subsistence homestead projects difference in the interest rate of these two institutions. involving financing; maintenance, and even the purchase of One was created as an electrifica_,tion organization and equip­ furniture. Every one of these must maintain a staff, a sys­ ment was a side issue, while the Federal Housing Act is tem of records, a collection agency, when, as a matter of going to be for a very short time. common sense, every loan pertaining to the farm, whether Mr. DffiKSEN. May I say to the gentleman from Ohio, it be a land-bank loan, a loan to build a bathroom, wire his if he will read section 5 of the bill

England and Scotland, an of which are separated from the Baltic VESSEL SPEEDS Sea by the Jutland Peninsula, correspond to the American Atlantic 18. Contrary to statements made by numerous misinformed coast ports of Jacksonville, Savannah, Charleston, Baltimore, Phila­ writers, engineers, and others in Florida, a very considerable speed delphia, New York, Boston, and other ports in the United States can be maintained in the Florida canal. In the relatively narrow and in Canada, which are separated from the Gulf ports by the Kiel Canal a speed of 8.1 knots, or 9 miles, per hour is permitted, peninsula of Florida. and a speed of not less than 5.4 knots, or 6 miles, per hour must THE GREAT CIRCLE SAILING ROUTE be maintained by order of the management. If a vessel under her 7. In comparing the Klel Canal with the trans-Florida ship own power cannot make this speed, she must take a tug. Inci­ canal there is, however, one important feature tn favor of the latter dentally, "tug trains" are made up consisting of sailing vessels, project. This lies in the fact that trans-Atlantic vessels plying barges, and other craft. The number of such vessels is decreasing direct between any two ports in America and Europe try to follow with the improvement in Diesel engines. In 1912 some 34,804 the great circle route, after giving due regard to ocean currents, vessels were towed in 12,487 tug trains. The average running time hazards of icebergs, and other conditions which affect the safety for transit was 17% hours--a rate of 3Y:J miles per hour. In 1927 of navigation at sea. The advantage of the great circle route 1s only 2,864 vessels were towed in 1,650 tug trains. The average apparent on a globe, but it is not at all apparent on a fiat map, transit time was 19~ hours, or a rate of 6 miles per hour. This particularly if the latter is on the customary rectangular or Mer­ reduction in time 1s due to improvements made in the canal cator's projection. prism in recent years. For vessels moving under their own power 8. The British Isles lie athwart the great circle route between the the transit through the canal is made in 7 to 77':! hours, according westerly entrance to the Kiel Canal and the North American ports. to the draft of the vessels. Incidentally, this compares very favor­ Therefore vessels plying direct between New York, for instance, and ably with the transit of United States naval vessels through the the Baltic ports approximate the great circle route by going to Panama Canal under emergency conditions. The Panama Canal is Pentland Firth, north of Scotland, thence across the North Sea, and 50 miles long, and during the World War a United States Navy around the Skaw, to the east of Denmark, for the reason that this destroyer passed through in 4 hours and 10 minutes, but 8 hours route is somewhat shorter thail. that through the English Channd is a fair minimum time for transit, including lockages and other delays. In 1934 an entire fieet of 110 war vessels was passed in 48 and around the Skaw or through the canal. hours. Authorities estimate that the Florida canal will permit an 9. The corresponding condition does not apply to the Florida ship average speed of at least 7.5 knots, and that 25 hours will suffice canal. It will afford a very decided short cut for all shipping for the transit. · plying between Gulf ports and those on either side of the Atlantic Ocean, including ports in the Mediterranean and some ports on the DISTANCE AND TIME SAVINGS northwest coast of Africa. The Florida canal approximates more 19. From its tip to the median point on the Kiel Canal, the closely than the Florida Straits to the great-circle route between Jutland Peninsula measures about 250 miles, while the correspond­ . ports in the Gulf of Mexico and ports in Europe, including those on ing distance in the Florida Peninsula is 350 miles. The Kiel Canal the Baltic. For example, a vessel plying direct between Galveston, saves about 22 hours on a voyage from Rotterdam on the Atlantic on the Gulf of Mexico, and Gdynia, on the Baltic Sea, will find its to Stettin on the Baltic. The Florida canal will, however, save shortest distance by using the Florida canal rather than by going about 32 hours on a voyage from Mobile, on the Gulf, to Savannah on through the Florida Straits. This applies to all European and or other United States ports in the Atlantic. On return, from the Mediterranean pgrts and to all American ports north of Jackson­ Atlantic ports to Mobile, the time savings will be 48 hours. The ville. This advantage presented by the Florida canal 1s increased, differe~ce between the northbound and southbound savings is due on the whole, by reason of the Gulf Stream and certain other fac­ to the 1nfiuence of the Gulf Stream as affecting navigation through tors which affect in various ways round-trip navigation through the the straits and not affecting navigation through the canal. Florida Straits as compared with navigation through the proposed 20. The savings in time in all cases above are on the basis of a canal. vessel with a speed of 8.5 knots in the open ocean. On a trip 10. All the vessels engaged in the North Atlantic trade will profit from Gibraltar (the entrance to the Mediterranean) to Tampa, the by using the latter canal. However, because the Kiel Canal does canal would save about 12 hours on a 10-knot ship and from New not greatly shorten the North Atlantic great-circle route between York to Tampa the saving would be 32 hours. However, from Baltic and American ports, the latter tratfic does not pass through Tampa to New York the saving would be 20 hours, or a total of the Kiel Canal. 52 hours on a round trip. For an 8.5-knot ship, the round-trip saving between Tampa and New York would be 62 hours. In all 11. It follows, then, that since the latter canal does not afford these calculations due account has been taken of the effect of the the trans-Atlantic commerce the same degree of benefit being Gulf S~r~am and of the speed incident to navigation in the canal. offered by the Florida canal, the tratfic of the former may be The sailmg distances involved are those computed by the United conservatively taken as an index of the commercial possibi11ttes States Hydrographic Otfice, and conform to the approved sailing and benefits to accrue from the latter. lines. RELATIVE DIMENSIONS BRIDGES 12. The comparative dimensions are indicated in the figures on 21. It 1s interesting to observe that the Kiel Canal traverses a the plate. thickly populated country with numerous large cities in Denmark 13. The Kiel Canal has a bottom width of only 144 feet, while and in Germany, with a correspondingly heavy highway and railway . the Florida canal will have a minimum width of 250 feet for about tratfic. No bridges are allowed to interfere with the free continuous 60 miles and the rest will apparently be not less than 400 feet movement of vessels. Four main-line railways are conducted across wide. The Kiel Canal has a center depth of 36 feet, in order to the canal by high-level bridges, affording a vertical clearance of 42 accommodate vessels of the German Navy, but most of the mer­ meters, or over 140 feet above the water. There 1s one highway chant vessels using the canal have a draft of not over 21 feet, bridge at high level and there 1s one swing bridge at a somewhat and they may pass or meet other vessels without stopping. For lower level used as a combination railway and highway bridge. It . deeper draft vessels, bypasses, or lay-bys are provided after the is arranged for specially quick operation. Numerous other high­ manner of railway sidings. These are eqUipped with posts for ways are provided with ferries, of which there are 17 crossing the the mooring of vessels which must take the siding and come to canal. · a full stop. Of these bypasses, there are 11, the four largest of 22. It may be remarked here that the Cape Cod Canal is crossed which are each 3,600 feet long by 540 feet wide. by only two highway bridges, each with a vertical clearance of 135 14. The Florida canal will be sufficiently wide so that vessels feet, and one railway lift bridge, which 1s habitually in an open · may pass or meet without lay-bys and without any great reduction position high above the water. It 1s lowered on the approach of a in speed. It will have a depth of 32 feet or more and will accom­ train. This mode of operation 1s the reverse of the customary modate vessels having a loaded draft of 30 feet. This draft em­ arrangement whereby the bridges are usually closed and are opened braces all but a small percentage of vessels in the Gulf trade. only upon the approach of a vessel. 15. In 1929, out of a total of 1,487 ships entering the Gulf and TOLLS making 10,341 one-way voyages and which might have used. the 23. The Kiel Canal 1s operated as a toll canal. In 1931 the reve­ ship canal to advantage, there were only 11 ships, making 96 nues were 6,137,000 marks, and the average charge was 0.34 marks voyages, that exceeded 30 feet in draft. In general, 95 percent of per net registered ton. At the average rate of exchange this toll the commerce of the world is carried in vessels of 30 feet draft was equal to 8.0343 cents per net registered ton. or less. 24. At one time a corporation was formed by act of State legis­ 16. For strategic reasons American war vessels no longer operate lature with a view to constructing· and operating a Florida Ship in the Gulf, and there is no need for an excessively deep canal Canal. Application was made to the Reconstruction Finance Cor­ to accommodate them. However, the canal has a wartime advan­ poration for a loan and it was necessary to consider the canal as a tage in that it will facilitate the movement of supplies or muni­ self-liqUidating project. Under these circumstances it could only tions of war from the numerous ports ln the Gulf. Cotton, pe­ be liquidated by assessing tolls and this idea, long since aban­ troleum, grain, and other products produced in the great valley doned, is apparently the origin of the comment that the project of the United States are all "materials of war" and find their cannot be liquidated on a toll basis. There is, however, good rea­ natural outlet through the Gulf ports and hence through the son for stating that on the very low basis of 8-cent toll per ton, the trans-Florida canal, which can be defended against an enemy revenues would serve to maintain and operate the canal and amor­ with much greater ease than the channels between the Florida tize the principal in 80 years, or less-particularly if interest be Peninsula and Yucatan. computed at the low rates at which the Federal Government has 17. The Kiel Canal is 53.2 nautical or 58.5 statute miles in been able to obtain funds. Moreover, the benefits to accrue to length, while the Florida canal will be about 195 statute miles shipping would be such as to justify a toll considerably in excess long from the ends of the jetties in the Atlantic and the Gulf, of 8 cents per ton. On petroleum products the savings, conserva­ respectively. Notwithstanding this disparity in length, the tively figured, would exceed 14 cents per long ton o! cargo and Florida canal will afford greater total savings to shipping in point would exceed 19 cents per ton of ordinary dry cargo as carried on of time and distance than results from the Kiel Canal. treighters an.d combination freight and passenger vessels. How- 1936. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUS;E 4353 ever, since there are mOTe than a dozen kinds of tons, tt is im­ about 16 cents per ton. This figure might well have been consid­ portant to observe a proper distinction between a ton of cargo ered in determining tolls, for which 8 cents per ton has been sug­ which could be 2,000 or 2,240 pounds and a net registered ton which gested in some quarters. However, aside from these benefits, calcu­ has 100 cubic feet of space. Tolls are usually based on the net lated on operating costs and fixed charges, there are other collateral registered ton, but the Suez and Panama Canals have their own benefits amounting to mill1ons of dollars annually on which it rules for measuring the tonnage of vessels. would not be practicable to levy tolls or taxes for the operation of 25. However, with reference to tolls, it should be noted that 1n the waterway. 1796 Congress passed a resolution declaring navigable waters of THE PANAMA AND SUEZ CANALS the United States to be public highways forever free. This resolu­ 33. Various persons not familiar with commercial statistics have tion was reenacted 1n somewhat different language 1n 1884 and is sought to compare the Florida canal with the Panama Canal and a fixed policy of the Federal Government. Many mlllions of have asserted that the tratfic on the Florida canal cannot pos­ dollars have been spent by the Government 1n creating artificial sibly approximate one-half of the traffic of the Panama Canal. channels in Biscayne Bay for the benefit of Miami, ln improving They are grossly in error. Notwithstanding its great advantage, natural channels ln Tampa Bay for the benefit o! Tampa and the traffic in the latter is exceeded by the potential traffic on the other ports, and in improving St. Johns River channel for the former. benefit of Jacksonville. The Government has spent many other 34. As compared with the Cape Horn route, the Panama Canal mlllions for numerous other seaports and for the improvement of saves over 8,000 miles of distance between United States Pacific the Mississippi, Ohio, and other rivers, as well as for art1.flclal coast ports and such a typical port as Norfolk on the Atlantic inland waterways, such as the Atlantic Intracoastal and the Gulf coast. In the calendar year 1932 the Panama Canal transited Canals. It has never sought to levy tolls or port dues on vessels 4,367 vessels, carrying 18,909,938 long-tons of cargo. The net reg­ using these improvements. The expenditure of Federal funds has istered tonnage was 16,573,865 tons. For the "big year" of 1929 been predicated on general benefits to commerce, including such the figures were 6,430 ships and 31,450,493 long-tons of cargo. intangibles as '

' AllTHUR G. NEWMYER UNITED STATES NEWS On the editorial page of the Washington Times, published The United States News, which I mentioned is edited by ·by American Newspapers, Inc., which also publishes the Mr. David Lawrence, whose personal taxes I gave you awhile Herald, there is given the nrune of Arthur G. Newmyer, pub.­ ago, renders.its real estate at 2201 M Street NW., on lot 816, lisher; J. J. Fitzpatrick, managing editor; a1;1d William C. square 50, at an assessed value of _$115,274, upon which it Shelton, business ~anager. pays an annual real-estate tax of $1,729.12. Mr. Arthur G. Newmyer, the publisher of the Wa~h!ngton It renders tangible personal property of an assessed value Times, lives at the Mayflower Hotel. He renders tangible of $43,912, upon which it pays an annual tax of $658.58. personal property of the assessed value of $4,500, upon It renders intangible property of an assessed value of which he pays a tax of $67.50 per year. $39,328, upon which it pays an annual tax on intangibles of He renders intangible p~operty of an assessed value of $196.64. $664, upon which he pays a tax of $3.32. That _is all the For 280,000 cubic feet of water per annum, it pays .$148.31. tax that he pays in Washington. LABOR J. J. FITZPATRICK _ The week1y publication known as Labor, upon its o:ffic.e Mr. J. J. Fitzpatrick, the editor of the Washington Ti.mes, building and plant at First Street and Constitution Avenue who lives at 3415 Fulton Street NW., in another's property, NW., on lots 16 and 45, square 635; renders its real estate at renders tangible personal property of the value of $60, an assessed value of $189,019, upon which it pays an annual upon which he pays a tax of 90 cents. real-estate tax· of $2,835.28. · He renders intangible property of the assessed value ot It renders tangible personal property at an assessed value $108, upon which he pays a tax on intangibles of 54 cents. of $20,000, upon which it pays an annual tax of $300. He renders a family automobile, upon which he pays a It renders no intangible property. tax of $8.17, plus $1 for license tag. - For 88,600· cubic feet of water furnished it per annum, it He pays an annual water rent per annum of $7.80. pays $55.33. Thus the editor of the Washington Times, on his personal NATIONAL PRESS BUll.DING property, his intangibles, on his automobile, for his license­ The National Press Building Corporation, on its office build­ -number tags, and for water furnished him a whole year, pays ing at Fourteenth and F Streets NW., lot 826, square 254, in all a total of only $18.11 taxes per annum for living in renders its real estate at an assessed valuation of $5,830,084, the Nation's Capital. upon which. it pays an annual real-estate tax of $87,451.26. WILLIAM C. SHELTON It renders tangible personal property of the assessed value Mr. William C. Shelton, the manager of the Washington of $184, for which it pays an annual tax of $2.76. Times, on his residence at 3517 Rittenhouse Street NW., Its intangible property is rendered at an assessed value of which he renders at an assessed value of $16,898, pays an $431,056, upon which it pays an annual tax of $2,155.28. annual real-estate tax of $253.48. · For 4,798,600 cubic feet of water per year furnished its fine There is, concerning his personal tangible property and also office building, one of the finest in the city, it pays an annual his intangible property, a mandamus proceeding pending: water charge of $2,520.59. He renders two family automobiles, one a Dodge and one FRANK ARMSTRONG a Buick, upon which he pays an aggregate annual tax of Mr. Frank Armstrong, president of the National Fruit only $19.72, plus a dollar each for the license tags on the Products, who, the papers said recently, had a Sa.lary last year two cars. of $25,000, renders for real estate $11,'075, upon which he pays He pays an annual water rent of $15.76 on water for his an annual real-estate tax of $166.12. residence property per year. He renders · tangible personal property in the amount of WASHINGTON HERALD-WASHINGTON TIMES $1,000, upon which he pays an annual tax of $15. The Washington Herald and the Washington Times, He renders no intangibles. combined, assessed as the American Newspapers, Inc., on He renders one family automobile, a Buick, upon which he lots 39 and 803, in square 250, city of Washington, render pays an annual tax of $23.62, plus a dollar for license-tag real estate at an assessed value of $709,108, upon which is fee. _ paid an annual real-estate tax of $10,636.62. - · He pays an annual water rent of $6.56. It renders tangible personal property of an assessed value HENRY N. BRAWNER of $224,984, upon which it pays an annual tax on tangible Mr. Henry N. Brawner, who is president of the Chestnut personal property of $3,374.76. - · Farms-Chevy Chase Dairy, and who, the newspapers reported It renders intangible property at an assessed value of recently, drew a salary last year of $27,000 per year, renders $306,676, upon which it pays a tax on intangibles of real estate of an assessed value of $50,713, upon which he $1,533.38. pays an annual real-estate _tax of $760.70. It pays water rent on 4,039,500 cubic feet of water, per He renders tangible personal property of the assessed value annum, of $1,992.33. of $2,000, upon which he pays an annual tax on tangible The difference between its assessment on real estate in property of $30. _ 1933 and the present year is as follows: He renders intangible property of the assessed value of In 1933 its assessed value on real estate was $770,004. $265,860, upon which he pays an annual tax on intangibles Now it has been reduced to $709,108. Thus since 1933 it has of $1,329.30. been granted a decrease of $61,896 on the asses~ed value of He renders for taxes two family automobiles, being two its real estate. Pack~rds upon which he pays an aggregate tax of $30.92 per WASHINGTON NEWS annum.· The Washington News at Thirteenth Street NW., between His annual water rent is $28.45. K and L, square 284, lot 823, renders its real estate at an J. M. DORAN assessed value of $209,100 and pays an annual real-estate Mr. J. M. Doran, administrator of Distilled Spirits Insti­ tax of $3,136.50. tute, who, the newspapers recently said, drew a salary last It renders tangible personal property of the assessed value year of $30,000, renders real estate of the assessed. value of of $83,392, upon which it pays a tax upon tangible personal $9,008, upon which he pays an annual tax on real estate of property of $1,250.88. - $135.12. . It renders intangible property of an assessed value of There is a mandamus proceeding pending againct him $71,896, upon which it pays an annual tax on intangibles of now by the District to force him to render for taxes his $359.48. tangible perso~al property. For 598,000 cubic feet of water furnished it annually, it He renders for taxes one i'amily automobile, a Willys, pays $276.35 per year. upon which he pays an annual personal tax of $5.17. 193"6 - _- CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-- HOUSE 4359

His annual water rent on -his residence at 1231 Thirty­ JOHN I. HAAS -first Street NW., is $5.21. - Mr.-John I. Haas, who is president of John I. Haas, Inc., MORRIS CAFRITZ who, the newspapers recently reported, drew a salary last - Mr. Morris Cafritz, who lives at the Ambassador Hotel year of $30,000, and who lives at the Wardman Park Hotel, and who, the newspapers reported recently, drew a salary of rendered no real estate, but rendered tangible personal $20,000 last year, renders no real estate, no tangible personal property of the assessed value of $1,500, upon which he paid property, but renders intangible property of the assessed an annual tax on tangibles of $22.50. value of $656, upon which he pays an annual tax on He rendered intangible property of the assessed value of i:ttangibles of $3.28. _ $24,064, upon which he paid an annual tax on intangibles He renders a family automobile, which is a Cadillac, upon of $120.32. which he pays an annual tax of $4.50 plus $1 for the license FRED J. HAAS tax, making a total tax that he pays to the District of Mr. Fred J. Haas, who is vice president of John I. Haas, Columbia of $8.78. Inc., who, the newspapers recently reported, drew a salary JOHN H. DAVIS last year of $26,000, renders no real estate, but renders tan .. : Mr. John H. Davis; manager of Judd & Detweiler, one of gible personal property of the assessed value of $700, upon the leading printing and engraving firms in Washington, which he pays an annual tax of $10.50. and who, the newspapers reported recently, drew a salary He-renders intangibles of an assessed value of $2,776, upon last year of $27,520, renders real estate of the assessed value which he pays an annual tax on intangibies of $13.88. of $27-,101, upon which he pays an annual real-estate tax He renders two family automobiles, one a De Soto and the of $406.52. other a Chevrolet, upon the two of which he pays an aggre .. He renders no tangible property. gate tax of $15.60 per year. He renders intangible property of the assessed value of For his property he pays an annual water-rent of $6.56. $22,248, upon which he pays an annual tax on intangibles of $111.24. - WALTER RAUBER He renders two family automobiles, which are two Olds­ Mr. Walter Rauber, who is secretary of the John I. Haas, mobiles, upon which he pays an aggregate tax of $17.62, for Inc., and who, the papers recently reported, drew a salary last both. year of $26,000, has his residence in Maryland and pays no For water charges on his property he pays an annual tax to the District at all. water charge of $32.81. RANDALL H. HAGNER ROBERT V. FLEMING Mr. Randall H. Hagner, president of Hagner & Co., who, Mr. Robert V. Fleming who, by the way, is a magnificent the newspapers recently reported, drew a salary of $39,875 gentleman and my friend, and who is president of the Riggs last year, renders his property at 2339 S Street NW. for taxes National Bank, and who, the newspapers recently reported, at an assessed value of $65,087, upon which he pays an _drew a salary last year of $37,600, renders real estate, it annual real-estate tax of $976.32. being his home at 2200 Wyoming A venue NW ., at an assessed He re~qers tangible personal property of an assessed value value of $25,050, upon which he pays an annual real-estate of $3,009, upon w{lich he paid an annual tax on tangibles tax of $375.76. last year of $45. He renders tangible personal property of the assessed value He -renders intangibles at an assessed value of $220, upon of $2,500, upon which he pays an annual tax on tangible which he paid an annual tax last year on intangibles of $1.10. property of $37.50. He renders one family automobile, upon which he pays He renders intangible property of_ the assessed value of $6.82 per annum, plus a dollar for the automobile license tag. -$644, upon which he pays an annual tax on intangibles of He pays an annual water rent of $22.57. $3.22. A. BRI'I"l'ON BROWNE - He renders a family automobile, which is a Packard, upon Mr. A. Britton Browne, who is vice president of Hagner & which he pays an annual tax of $3.75 plus $1 for license-tax Co., Inc., and who, the newspapers recently reported, drew a registration. For his residence he pays an annual water charge of salary last year of $32,625, renders his property at 1917 Twenty-third Street NW. at an assessed value of $15,951, $12.33. upon which he pays an annual tax on real estate of $239.26. M. G. GmBS He rendered tangible personal property of an assessed Mr. M. G. Gibbs, president of the Peoples Drug Stores, valce of $2,000, upon which he pays an annual tax of $30. -who, the newspapers recently reported, drew a salary last year of $50,000, renders no real estate, but renders tangible He rendered intangible property of the assessed value of $88, 44 personal property of the value of $1,500 upon which he pays upon which he pays an annual tax of cents. an annual tax of $22.50 on tangibles. · He renders two family automobiles, one Packard and one He renders intangible- property of the assessed value of Ford, upon which he pays an aggregate tax of $21.45 per $129,464, upon which he pays an annual tax on intangibles annum, plus $2 for the registration fee, $1 for each car. of $647.32. He pays an annual water rent of $8.25 for the water h~ He renders two family automobiles, one a Lincoln and one uses on his property. a Packard, upon which he pays an aggregate tax of $24.22 HENSE HAMILTON per annum plus $1 each for license tags. Mr. Hense Hamilton, who is the assistant vice president of E. C. GRAHAM the Chesapeake & Potomac Telephone Co., and who, the Mr. E. C. Graham, president of the National Electric Sup­ newspapers recently 1·eported, drew a salary last year of ply Co., who, the papers recently reported, drew a salary last $18,333, renders his property at 3700 Huntington Street NW. year of $22,569, rendered real estate of the assessed value at the assessed value of $25,279, upon which he paid an of $27,900, upon which he pays an annual tax of $418.50. annual tax of $379.10. He renders tangible personal property of the value of He rendered tangible property of the assessed value of $500, $400, upon which he pays a tax on tangible property of $6 upon which he paid a tax of $7.50 last year. per year. He rendered intangible property of an assessed value of He renders intangible property of the assessed value of $18,472, upon which he paid last year a tax on intangibles of $6,596, upon which he paid a tax last year of $32.98. $92.36. He renders for taxes three family automobiles, one a He rendered two family automobiles, one Cadillac and one Packard, one a Pontiac, and one an Oldsmobile, upon which Buick, upon the two of which he paid an aggTegate annual he pays a combined aggregate tax of $27.97 per annum, plus tax of $24.45, plus $2 for the license tags. $3 covering the license-tag charges, $1 for each car. For his property he pays an annual water rent of $12.91 The water charge for his residence is annually $18.53. per year. LXXX--276 4860 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE MARCH 25

3-oHN H. HANNA WILLIA.M :M'CLELLAK Mr. John H. Hanna, who is the president of the Capital Mr. William McClellan, president of the Potomac Electric Transit Co.~ and who, the newspapers reported recently, drew Power Co., who, the newspapers reported, drew a salary of a salary last year of $20,000, pays no real-estate taxes, but $30,062 last year and who lives at the Shoreham Hotel, ren­ renders tangible personal property of the value of $1,200, ders no real estate, renders no personal property returns, upon which he pays an annual tax of $18. He renders in­ and no intangible property, pays nothing on automobiles, tangible property of the value of $2,916, upon which he pays and pays nothing for water. But there is a mandamus a tax on intangibles of $14.58. proceeding pending against him in the District now to com­ He renders a family automobile, which is a Studebaker, pel him to render property for taxation. upon which he pays an annual tax of $13.87, plus $1 for 0. STEDMAN HILL license-tag registration. Mr. 0. Stedman Hill. treasurer of the Public Utilities Re­ He pays an annual water rent of $6.56 per year. · ports, who, the newspapers recently reported, drew a salary P.J.HABMAN last year of $39,950, renders no real estate; no personal Mr. P. J. Harman, who is the principal of Strayer's Business property; no intangible property, and there is a mandamus College, who, the newspapers recently reported, drew a salary suit pending against him now, to force him to pay taxes on of $28,980 last year, rendered real estate of an assessed value his property. of $28,311, upon which he pays an annual tax of $424.68. E. G. BUCKLAND . He renders tangible personal property of the value of $1,644 Mr. E. G. Buckland, president of the Railroad Credit upon which he pays an annual tax of $24.66. Corporation, who, the newspapers recently reported, drew He renders intangible property of the assessed value of a salary last year of $39,000, renders no real estate, no $3,644,. upon which he pays an annual tax of $18.22. He ren­ tangible personal property, no intangible, and there 1s a ders two family automobiles, one Packard and one Plymouth, mandamus suit pending against him now, to force him to upon the two of which he pays an aggregate tax of $22.05 per pay taxes on his property. annum. HARRY G. MEEM He ·pays an annual water rent of $14.81. Mr. Harry G. Meem, who is president of the Washing­ W. M. KIPLINGER ton Loan & Trust Co., who, the newspapers reported, last Mr. w. M. Kiplinger, who is president of Kiplinger & Bab­ year drew a salary of $25,840, renders his residence at 2730 son, Inc., who, the newspapers recently reported, drew a Thirty-fourth Place, NW., at an assessed value of $21,370, salary last year of $20,333, pays no real-estate tax; but he upon which he pays a real-estate tax of $320.56. renders tangible personal property of the assessed value of He rendered tangible personal property of an assessed $400, upon which he pays an annual tax of $6. value of $1,100, and upon which he paid an annual tax on He rendered intangible property of the assessed value of tangibles last year of $16.50. $48,968, upon which he pays an annual tax on intangibles He renders intangible property of an assessed value of of $244.84. · $19,164, upon which he pays an annual tax on intangibles of He renders a family automobile, a Nash, upon which he $95.82. pays an annual tax of $10.50, plus $1 for J?.cense tax. He renders a family automobile, which ls a LaSalle, on WILLIAM H. LIPSCOMB which he paid an annual tax of $14.40 plus $1 for license tag. ·Mr. William H. Lipscomb, who is president of B. & R., Inc. He pays an annual water rent of $18.53. The newspapers recently reported that he drew a salary last GEORGE MILL!:R year of $24,000. He renders his residence as 2324 Massa­ Mr. George Miller, president of the Union Beauty & Barber chusetts Avenue for real-estate-tax purposes at an assessed Supply Co., who, the newspapers recently reported, drew a value of $53,550, upon which he pays an annual real-estate salary of $20,000 last year, upon his residence at 2831 Chester­ tax of $803.24. field Place NW. rendered real estate of an assessed value of He renders tangible personal property of an assessed value $24,154, upon which he paid an annual real-estate tax of of $1,248, upon which he pays an annual tax of $18.72. $362.32. He renders intangible property of the value of $59,904, He rendered tangible personal property of an assessed value upon which he pays an annual tax on intangibles of $299.52. of $300, upon which he paid an annual tax of $4.50. He renders for taxes two family automobiles, one a Lincoln He rendered intangibles of the value of $296, upon which he and one a studebaker, upon the two of which he pays an paid an annual tax on intangibles of $1.48. aggregate tax of $36.82 per annum, plus $2 for license tags. He rendered a family automobile, which is a Packard, upon He pays an annual water rent of $11.24. which he paid an annual tax of $8.25. I'B.EDERICK W. MACKENZIE His annual water rent is $17.29. Mr. Frederick W. MacKenzie, of the Tolman Laundry, who, WILLIAM MONTGOMERY the newspapers recently reported, drew a salary last year of Mr. William Montgomery, who is president of the Acacia $18,220, renders his residence at 3801 Ingomar Street NW. Mutual Life Insurance Co., who, the newspapers recently re­ for real-estate taxes last year at an assessed value of $18,325, ported, drew a salary last year of $75,000 per annum, and upon which he paid an annual tax of $274.88. about which they bragged, renders real estate of an assessed He rendered tangible personal property of the assessed value of $100,800, upon which he pays an annual tax of value of $1,000, upon which he paid a tax of $15. $1,512. He rendered intangible property of the value of $436 upon He rendered tangible property of the value of $4,148, upon which he paid a tax on intangibles of $2.18. which he pays an annual tax on tangibles of $62.22. He paid an annual water rent of $10.45. He renders intangibles of the assessed value of $3,556, upon GEORGE P. MARSHALL which he pays an annual tax on intangibles of $17.78. Mr. George P. Marshall, president of the Palace Laundry, He renders a family automobile, a LaSalle, upon which he who, the newspapers recently reported, drew a salary of pays an annual tax of $3.75. $20,000 last year and who lives at the Shoreham Hotel, He pays an annual water rent of $31.50. rendered no real estate. but rendered tangible personal prop­ FREDERICK M. PELZMAN erty of the value of $3,248, upon which he pays an annual Then there is Mr. Frederick M. Pelzman. of the Fashion tax on tangibles of $48.72. Shop, Inc., who, the newspapers recently reported, drew an He rendered intangible property of the assessed value of annual salary of $20,000 last year. He renders his resi­ $1,000, upon which he paid an annual tax on intangibles dence, real property, at 3004 Thirty-second Street, at an of $5. annual assessed value of $20,575, upon which he pays an He renders a family automobile, which is a Cadillac, upon annual real-estate tax of $308.62. which he pays an annual tax of $5Z.87, plus $1 for license He renders tangible personal property at an assessed value tag. of $200, upon which he pays an annual tax of $3. He renders 1936_ CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 4361

intangibles at an assessed value of $100, upon which he pays na. c. A. siMPsoN an annual tax of 50 cents. Then there is Dr. C. A. Simpson, who is the president of He pays an annual water rent of $20.39. the Washington Radium & X-Ray Laboratory, who, the ROCK CREEK GINGER ALE CO. newspapers recently reported, drew a salary last year of AI $20,568, and who pays no real-estate taxes. Mr. w. H. Rawley, president of the Rock Creek Ginger e He renders tangible personal property at the assessed value Co., who, the newspapers recently said, drew last year a salary of $1,000, upon which he pays an annual tax of $15. ~e of $25,000, has a residence at 4315 Hawthorne ·Street NW., renders intangibles at the assessed value of $2,072, upon which upon which the assessed value was rendered as $15,325 and he paid an annual tax of $10.36. upon which he pays an annual real-estate tax of $229.88. He renders two family automobiles, one a Cadillac and one He renders tangible personal property at the· value of $400, a Pontiac, upon the two of which he pays an aggregate tax of upon which he pays an annual tax of $6. He renders intan- $20.84 per year, plus $2 covering the license tax. gibles of the value of $1,876, upon which he pays an annual H. B. SPENCER tax of $9.38. · Mr. H. B. Spencer, who is president of the Fruit Growers He renders two automobiles, one a Buick and one a Ford, Express, who, the newspapers recently reported, drew a salary upon the two of which he pays an aggregate tax of $14.85, last year of $23,020, renders his residence at 2012 Massa- plus $2 for the license-tag registration. chusetts Avenue NW. at an assessed value of $76,187, upon He pays a water rent of $16.67 per annum. which he pays annually a real-estate tax of $1,142.80. Then there is Mr. D. A. Rawley, vice president of the He rendered tangible personal property of the assessed Rock Creek Ginger- Ale Co., who, the newspapers recently value of $17,000, upon which he pays an' annual tax of $255. said, drew a salary last year of $25,000. He renders intangibles at an assessed value of $400,000, upon His house address is 350 Rock Creek Ford Road. He pays which he pays an annual tax of $2,000. no real-estate tax, no tangible personal tax, but he renders He renders two family automobiles, both being Packards, intangibles at an assessed value of $1,124 upon which he upon the two of which he pays an aggregate tax of only pays an annual tax of $5.62 per year on intangibles. $2.55 per annum, plus $2 for license tags. That is all of the tax he pays to the District per year, That is an astonishingly low tax on two Packard auto- $5.62, with a $25,000 salary. · mobiles, I do not care whether they are old or new. Mr. George P. Rawley, secretary of the Rock Creek Gin- He pays an annual water rent of $32.33. ger Ale co., who, the newspapers recently reported, received MARCY L. sPERRY last year a salary of $25,000, on his residence at 1400 Mon- Mr. Marcy L. Sperry, president of the Gas Light Co., who, tague Street NW., rendered an assessed value of $16,500 the newspapers recently reported, drew a salary last year of and pays a tax of $247.50. $16,920, renders no real estate. He renders no tangible personal property, but he renders He renders tangible property at the assessed value of $300, intangible property at an assessed value of $2,024, upon upon which he pays an annual tax of $4.50. He renders which he pays an annual tax on intangibles of $10.12. intangibles at the assessed value of $20,512, upon which .he He renders two family cars, a Buick and La Salle, upon the pays an annual tax of $102.56. two of which he pays an aggregate annual tax of $21.30, plus He pays an annual water rent of $49.67. $2 to cover the $1 charge for license tags. H. VINER He pays annually as water rent $14.36. Mr. H. Viner, who is president of the Arcade Sunshine Co., Mr. L. P. Rawley, who is treasurer of the Rock Creek who, the newspapers recently reported, drew a salary of $30,- . Ginger Ale Co., who, the newspapers recently reported, drew 000 renders his residence at 3507 Massachusetts Avenue NW. a salary last year of $25,000, on his residence at 5501 Rock and whatever other real estate he has at $47,837, upon which Creek Ford Road had an assessed value of $19,705, upon he pays an annual real estate tax of $717.56. which he paid an annual real-esta~e tax of $295.58. He He renders tangible personal property of the assessed value rendered no tangible personal property, but he renders intan- of $2,500, upon which he pays an annual tax of $37.50. He gible property on an assessed value of $1,776, upon which he renders intangibles at an assessed value of $816, upon which paid an annual tax of $8.88. he pays an annual tax of $4.08. · He renders two family automobiles, one Packard and one He renders for taxes, three family automobiles, one Cadil- Pontiac, for the two of which he pays an aggregate tax of lac, one Buick, and one Chevrolet, upon the three of which $22.65, plus $2 to cover the $1 license tax charge on each of he pays an aggregate tax of $26.92 per annum, plus $3 for them. the automobile license tags. He pays an annual water rent of $43.51. He pays an annual water rent of $29.25. JOHN A. REMON GEORGE W. WHITE Mr. John A. Remon, who is manager of the Chesapeake & George W. White, president of the National Metropolitan Potomac Telephone Co., who, the newspapers recently re- Bank, who, the newspapers recently reported, drew a salary ported, drew a salary last year of $20,166, upon his residence · last year of $25,000, renders his residence at 2800 Upton at 3104 Thirty-third Place NW., had it assessed at $17,165, Street NW. at an assessed value of $58,963, upon which he upon which he paid an annual real-estate tax of $257.48. paid an annual real-estate tax of $884.46. He rendered tangible personal property at an assessed He renders tangible personal property at an assessed value value of $200, upon which he paid an annual tax of $3. He of $2,000, upon which he pays an annual tax of $30. He rendered intangible property at an assessed value of $46,096, renders intangible property at an assessed value of $11,788, upon which he paid a tax on intangibles of $230.48. upon which he pays an annual tax on the intangibles of His annual water rent is $16.05. $58.94. H. L. RuST He renders two family automobiles, one a Packard and Mr. H. L. Rust, who, by the way, is a very fine gentleman one a Ford, upon the two of which he pays an aggregate tax and one of my personal friends, who, the newspapers said of only $5.17 per annum, plus $2 for license tags, and he recently, drew a salary last year of $24,000, renders no real pays an annual water rent of $61.46. estate for taxes, but he rendered tangible personal property EDWARD G. YoNKER at the value of $2,000, upon which he pays an annual tax of Mr. Edward G. Yonker, president of the Sanitary Grocery $30; and he renders intangible property of the value of Co., who, the newspapers recently reported, drew a salary

$392,248, upon which he pays an annual tax on intangibles last year of $74,660, renders on his residence at 5100 Thirty4 of $1,961.24. ninth Street NW., at an assessed value of $75,800, upon He renders a family automobile, which is a Pontiac, upon which he paid an annual real-estate tax of $1,137. which he pays an annual tax of $10.12. He renders personal property at an assessed value of $8,500, He pays an annual water rent of $695.47. upon which he paid an annual tax of $127.50. He renders 4362 _CONGRESSIONAL. RECORD-HOUSE_ MARCH 25

intangible property at an assessed value of $213,064, upon a. E. ELGEM which he pays an annual tax on intangibles of $1,065.32. Mr. R. E. Elgen is Chairman of the Public Utilities Com­ Gentleme~ one of the primary pu_rposes of getting this mission, with a salary of $7,500 a year. evidence before you and the interested people of Wash­ He renders no real estate, but he renders tangible personal ington is the fact that you will note that there are a great property at an assessed value of $524, upon which he pays an many people in Washington who have i.D.tangible property, annual tax of $7.86. He renders intangible property of the and some of them are rendering it for taxes, and some are assessed val~e of $300, upon which he pays an annual tax of not, and from the reports that have been made to me by $1.50. some reliable people here in Washingto~ if you check up He pays an annual water rent of $7.56. you will find that there are many millions of dollars hidden WILLIAM A. VAN DUZER away untaxed in the lock boxes in the banks in Washington, Mr. William A. VanDuzer is our director of traffic of the if you could ever find it, and it is going to take something District; salary, $7,500. He pays no real-estate taxes. He more than just filing a mandamus suit to get it. Some new pays no tangible personal taxes. legislation must be passed to reach it. On intangible property, at an assessed value of $5,165, he So I am just giving you a fair cross-section of some of these pays $25.82 per year, and he renders a family car, a Chrysler, cases, to show you that there are many instances where there upon which he pays an annual tax of $12.82. is a large amount of intangible property owned. He pays an annual water rent of $11.57. Coming back to Mr. Yonker, he renders two family auto­ mobiles, one a Cadillac and one a Buick, upon the two of G. C. Wll.KINSON which he pays an annual aggregate tax of $38.54, and the G. C. Wilkinson is first assistant superintendent in charge annual water rent is $23.49. of the colored schools, his salary being $6,000. 114ACK L. LANGFORD His residence, at 406 U Street NW ., has an assessed value Mr. Mack L. Langford, vice president of the Sanitary Groc­ of $4,246, and he pays $63.70 per annum in real-estate taxes. ery Co., who, the newspapers recently reported, drew a salary He renders no tangible property tax and no intangible. laut year of $31,968, renders no .real property, renders no He renders a family car, an Oldsmobile, upon which he tangible personal property, but renders intangibles of the pays an annual tax of $9.30. assessed value of $32,464, which is less than 1 year's net in­ He pays an annual water rent of $6.56. come, upon which he pays an annual tax on intangibles of WAYNE KENDRICK $112.32. Wayne Kendrick is connected with the Board of Account­ He renders two family automobiles, one a Chrysler and one ancy. His office is in the Rush Building, and his residence a Dodge, upon the two of which he pays an aggregate tax of is in Virginia, and he pays no taxes to the District. $22.19 per annum, plus $2 license tag fee. He paid, you will note, $112.32 on $22,464 in intangibles, DR. HENRY R. OSBOitNE and that, plus the $22.19 that he pays on automobiles, is all Dr. Henry R. Osborne is president of the Board of District of the tax that he pays in the District of Columbia, yet he Dental Examiners. has a net income of $31,968. His address is at 1726 I Street NW. He pays no taxes of any kind in the District of Columbia. LAWRENCE B. CAMPBELL Mr. Lawrence B. Campbell, who is treasurer for the Na­ CHARLES E. SCHROM tional Press Building Corporation, renders no real-estate Mr. Charles E. Schrom is the chief engineer of the fire tax, renders tangible property of the assessed value of $184, department, with a salary of $8,000 a year. · upon which he pays a tax of $2.76, and that is the total tax On his residence at 1315 Maryland Avenue NE., which is that he pays in the District, $2.76 a year. assessed at $3,950, he pays an annual real-estate tax of CHARLES B. DEGGES $59.26. Mr. Charles B. Degges, who is secretary of the Board of He pays no tangible personal tax and no intangible tax. He renders a family · automobile, a Chevrolet, upon which Educatio~ renders his residence at 4419 Q Street NW ., at an assessed value of $5,670, upon which he pays a real-estate he pays an annual tax of $3.60. tax of $85.06. His annual water rent is $6.56. He renders no tangible personal property, no intangible ERNEST W. BROWN property, one family car, an Oldsmobile, upon which he pays Ernest W. Brown, Superintendent of the Metropolitan $9.15 tax, plus $1 for license tags, and he pays an annual Police, $8,000 a year. water rent of $8.32. He pays no real-estate tax. He pays no tangible personal­ Does any one know what is the salary of the secretary property tax and no intangible tax. of the Board of Education? He renders a Studebaker family car, upon which he pays Three thousand five hundred dollars. I think it is. an annual tax of $7 .12. DR. EDGAR A. BOCOCK He pays an annual water rent of $6.56. Dr. Edgar A. Bocock, of Gallinger Hospital. With $7,500 MELVIN C. HAZEN salary, Dr. Edgar A. Bocock renders no real estate, no tangi­ Here is olir chairman of the boa-rd, Hon. Melvin C. Hazen, ble personal property, but he renders intangibles, at an Commissioner. assessed value of $232, upon which he pays an annual tax His salary is $9,000. of $1.16, and $1.16 is all Dr. Bocock, who draws a salary On his residence, 1829 Sixteenth Street NW., the assessed from the two Governments of $7,500 per year, . pays the value is $30,372, on which he pays an annual real-estate tax District. of $455.58. MRS. HENRY GRATTAN DOYLE On tangible personal property, with an assessed value of Mrs. Henry Grattan Doyle is president of the Board of $148, he pays a tax of $2.22. Upon intangible property, as­ Education. sessed at $628, he pays a tax of $3.14. The property of her husband, at 5500 Thirty-third Street On his family automobile, a Buick car, he pays an annual NW., is rendered at an assessed value of $7,278, upon which tax of $3.97, plus a $1 license-tax charge. the annual real-estate tax is $109.18. They render tangible property of the assessed value of GEORGE E. ALLEN $2,000, upon which an annual tax of $3, and intangibles at an Here is our friend, Hen. George E. Allen, Commissioner, assessed value of $332, upon which is paid an annual tax of with salary of $9,000. $1.66. He pays no real-estate tax. His tangible personal property They render two family automobiles, one Chevrolet and one is assessed. at $300, upon which he pays $4.50. The intangible Ford, upon the two of. which there is an annual aggregate property is assessed at $5,068, upon which he pays $25.34. tax of $15.14, plus a $2 automobile license tag charge. On his family car he pays tax of $13.20, plus a $1 auto­ They pay an annual water rent of $6.56 per year. mobile license tag·fee, and no water rent. .1936 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 4363 W. BARRETT PRETTYMAN appropriation for the fiscal year 1936 for emergency relief of Here is our friend, Hon. E. Barrett Prettyman, corpora­ residents of the District of Columbia; without amendment tion counsel of the District of Columbia, and his salary entitled "Joint resolution giving author­ ing passage of House bill 8739; to the Committee on the Dis­ ity to the Commissioners of the District of Columbia to make trict of Columbia. special regulations' for the occasion of the Seventieth Na­ 10597. By Mr. RICH: Petition of Lieutenant Edson J. Cat­ tional Encampment of the Grand Army of the Republic in the lin Post, No. 101, Wellsboro, Pa., favoring House bill 9497 and month of September 1936, and for other purposes, incidental Senate bill 3579; to the Committee on Pensions. to said encampment", approved July 18, 1935; to the Com­ 10598. By Mr. WIGGLESWORTH: Petition of the Gen­ mittee on the District of Columbia. eral Court of Massachusetts, memorializing the Congress of By Mr. JENKINS of Ohio: Joint resolution

PRIVATE BTI.J..S AND RESOLUTIONS SENATE Under clause 1 of rule XXII, private bills and resolutions . were introduced and severally referred as follows: THURSDAY, MARCH 26, 1936 By Mr. CHRISTIANSON (by request): A bill for the relief of Gar­ Ashurst Connally Lewis Radcliffe land Hartman; to the Committee on Military Affairs. Austin Copeland Logan Reynolds Also, a bill