Shenandoah Farms Management Survey
January 13 2010
Prepared by Warren County Staff Shenandoah Farms Management Survey Summary of Results
In December 2009 Warren County conducted a survey to obtain input from properly owners in the Shenandoah Farms Sanitary District regarding current and future management of the District The property owners of Shenandoah Farms POSE Inc Board of Directors have requested that the County consider taking over the operations of the Sanitary District Currently POSE is contracted by the County to maintain the roads and common properties
One copy of the survey was mailed to each address located in the Shenandoah Fauns Sanitary District The address and property owner information was obtained from the County tax records County staff mailed out Three residents came the Government 1819 surveys to Center to pick up a survey 80 of those surveys were returned due to bad addresses Out of the 1742 surveys that were distributed the County received back 252 for a response rate of 145a
Respondents
A review ofthe surveys received shows that 714 of the respondents are year round residents of Warren County The most respondents 372have lived in the County two to five years 290 of the respondents have lived in the County more than 20 years 273 of the respondents have lived in the County ten to twenty years
How long have you lived in Warren County
6
29C Less than 2 years
25years
372 1020years
More than 20
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Current Management Evaluation
When asked if they are satisfied with the current management of the Shenandoah Farms Sanitary District responses were split with 507 of the respondents stating that they are satisfied with the current management and 493 stating they are not satisfied with the current management
Are you satisfied with the current management of the Shenandoah Farms Sanitary District
Yes
493 507 No
2 An additional analysis was conducted regarding the satisfaction of respondents in relation to their in number of years of residence The survey revealed that the residents who have lived the County less than 2 years were the most satisfied with the current management although this was the group with the fewest total of overall responses The following table shows the breakdown ofresponses
Years of Residence Number of Percentage Satisfied with Percentage Not Satisfied Res ondents Current Mana ement with Current Mana ement
Less than 2 ears 12 600 4009
25 ears 68 3689 632
1020 ears 50 489 511
More than 20 ears 53 4129 588
Question number 4 asked if the respondents are satisfied with the current level of maintenance of the roads in the Shenandoah Farms Sanitary District 372 of the respondents are satisfied and 628 of the respondents aze not satisfied
Question number 5 asked if the property owner was satisfied with the current level of maintenance of the common properties in the Shenandoah Farms Sanitary District 649 said yes while 351said no
When asked in question number 6 if they thought the current management of the Shenandoah Farms Sanitary District should be changed 662 of respondents said yes while 338 of the respondents said no
Do you think the current management of the Shenandoah Fazms Sanitary District should be changed
338
3 DYes 4
No
662 4
For those respondents who answered yes to question number 6 they were asked what they thought were the issues with the current management of the Sanitary District by the POSF The most respondents 743felt the size of the development was the main issue 588 of respondents answered lack of fulltime staff 559 of respondents answered knowledge required and 441 answered attitudes in the community The bar graph below shows the breakdown of answers What do you drink are the issues with the current management of the Sanitary District by POSF
80 743
70 588 559A 60
441 50
40 316
30X 184No 20
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Knowledge required Size of the Attitudes in the PersorwGties Time required by Lack of fulltime development community volunteers staff
When asked if the property owner would support the County taking over the management of the Sanitary District and running it as a component of the County Government 824 of the respondents answered yes and 176 of the respondents answered no
Would you support the County taking over the management of the
Sanitary District and running it as a component of the County
Government
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When asked what the three biggest challenges are facing Shenandoah Farms road maintenance was the most common response 870 Drainage issuesculverts received 647 of the responses followed by costs of taxes which received 487 of the response
4 r What are fire three bigbest challenses facin6 Shenandoah Farms
1000 870 900
800 6476 700
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500 374h 400
300 168h 200 05 100
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Road Costs of taxes Drainage Response to Snow removal Lack of maintenance issuesculverts complaints recreational space
The responses were split on question number 10which asked if respondents would support paying higher Sanitary District taxes for better roads
Wonld yon rapport paying higher Sanitary District taxesfor better roads
Yes
498 502 No
Question 11 asked if the property owner would support participation in the VDOT Rural Addition Program to upgrade roads and have them taken into the State Highway System with the State paying 50 of costs the County 25 of costs and the Shenandoah Farms Sanitary District paying 25 of the costs 748 of the respondents answered that they would support participation in this program and 252 answered they would not support this
When asked if the respondent felt as if the County is on the right track in terms of evaluating the options for management of the Shenandoah Farms Sanitary District 839 of the respondents answered yes while 161 answered no
The pages following this summary report show each question and the breakdown of responses The last question asked if there were any issues of concern that had not been addressed in the survey We received 178 comments on this question The responses are listed out in this report under question 13 There were also additional comments included for questions 1 7 and 9 which are also listed in the remaining pages of this report
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1 Which ofthe following describes your residence statue in Warren County
Year round resident Seasonal resident specify how many months per calendar year Landowner but not a resident Ifyou are not a resident ofWarren County please skip ahead to question 3
2 How long have you lived in Warren County
Less than 2 years 1020 years 25 years More than 20 years
3 Are you satisfied with the current management ofthe Shenandoah Farms Sanitary District
Yes No
4 Are you satisfied with the current level ofmaintenance ofthe roads in the Shenandoah Farms Sanitary District
Yes No
b Are you satisfied with the current level ofmaintenance of the common properties in the Shenandoah Farms Sanitary District
Yes No
6 Do you think that the current management of the Shenandoah Farms Sanitary District should be changed
Yes No If you answered no please skip ahead to question 9
7 if you answered Yes to Question 6 What do you think are the issues with the current management ofthe Sanitary District by POSF Check all that apply
Knowledge required Personalities Size of the development Time required by Volunteers ttitudes in the community Lack offulltime staff Other Other
8 Would the over the of the you support County taking management Sanitary District and running it as a component of County Government
Yes No
9 What are the three biggest challenges facing Shenandoah Farms
Road maintenance Response to complaints Costs of tares Snow removal
Drainage issuesculverts Lack of recreational space Other for better roads 10 Would you support paying higher Sanitary District taxes
Yes No
VDOT Rural Addition to roads and have them taken into 11 Do you support participation in the program upgrade the State Highway System with the State paying 60 ofcosta the County 26 of costs and the Shenandoah Farms Sanitary District paying 2696 of costa
Yes No
TO CONCLUDE
is on the track in terms of the for c the 12 Do you believe the County right evaluating options management Shenandoah Farms Sanitary District
Yea No
concern not addressed in this below 13 Are there any issues that you that have been survey Please specify V Shenandoah Farms Management Survey
Which of the following describes your residence status in Warren County
Response Response Percent Count I
Year round resident 71491 180
Seasonal resident 4l0 11
Landowner but not a resident 242o fit
If seasonal resident specify how many months per calendar year you live here 10
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If seasonal resident specify how many months per calendar year you Ilve here 1 78 Dec 22 2009 844 PM 2 2 Dec 22 2009 858 PM
3 every other weekend Dec 23 2009 809 PM
4 owned property 20 years Dec 29 2009 452 PM 5 every other week Dec 29 2009 858 PM 6 3 Dec 30 2009 824 PM 7 6 Jan 4 2010 740 PM
8 3 days per wk last 3 yrs Jan 4 2010 750 PM 9 10 months per year Jan 5 2010 400 PM
10 9 mos Jan 5 2010 412 PM
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How tong have you lived in Warren County
Response Response Percent Count
Less than 2 years 6Io 12
25 years 372 88
1020 years 273 50
More than 20 years 290 53 I
answered question 183
skipped question 89 1
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with the current of the Shenandoah Farms Sanitary District Are you satisfied management
Response Response Percent Count
Yes 5079E 113
110 No X 493
answered questJon 223
skipped questJon 29
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Are you satisfied with the current level of maintenance of the roads in the Shenandoah Farms Sanitary District
Response Response Percent Count
Yes n 37296 86
N o F 628X 143
answered question 231
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with the current level of maintenance of the common properties in the Shenandoah Farms An you satisfied Sanitary District
Response Response Percent Coun
Yes 649 13lf
No 351 73
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Do you think that the current management of the Shenandoah Farms Sanitary District should be changed
Response Response Percent Count
Yes Kx 662X 149
No f 338 76
answered question 22S
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It you answered Yes to Question 8 What do think the issues you are with the current management of the Sanitary District by POSF Check att that apply
Response Response Percent Count
Knowledge required 559 76
Size of the development 7439ti 101
Attitudes in the community 441 60
Personalities 184 25 I
Time Volunteers required by 316 43 I
Lack of fulltime staff Rr err 588 80
Other please specify 36
answered question 13a
skipped question 116 I
Other please specify 1 in Money spent wrong areas Riverview has biggest area of house and road Dec 22 2009 540 PM touched maybe once a year I 2 dontknow Dec 22 2009 724 PM 3 conflicts of erosion problem Dec 22 2009 729 PM 4 in Amount of money budget Dec 23 2009 452 PM 5 Management of money Dec 23 2009 517 PM 6 roads Dec 23 2009 833 PM 7 Lack of proper contract full 8 open competition Dec 29 2009 459 PM 8 The size of the current budget is unwieldy for a volunteer board whose members Dec 29 2009 717 PM have regular jobs 9 how close Dishonesty depends on to the board members live on how well things Dec 29 2009 SOS PM are taken care of
10 The hiring of friends to do work not holding builders accountable for Dec 29 2009 608 PM drainagedamage 11 Road Maintenance Dec 29 2009 814 PM
12 Professional road maintenance lacking Dec 29 2009 817 PM 13 Lack of understanding of the 2 counties Warren money spent in Clarke County Dec 29 2009 909 PM 14 Pave main roads Dec 29 2009 947 PM 15 Fourwheeler speeders Road signs not up Paid 2500 to build road scraped Dec 29 2009 958 PM once only after letter 16 Enforce of upkeep residences Dec 30 2009 321 PM 17 Paying too much Cap control and plan spending Dec 30 2009 357 PM
1 of 2 Other please specify 18 Benefits of County run like bulk trash pickup like advertised on N channel Dec 30 2009 413 PM 19 Need experienced road maintenance personnel Dec 30 2009 500 PM 20 fees allotment Dec 30 2009 506 PM
21 Diverse needsbenefits Poor communication Dec 30 2009 831 PM
22 How funds are directed Dec 30 2009 955 PM
23 fee increases too high fees do not return to designated sections districts for Jan 4 2010 449 PM improvement 24 road service maintenance Jan 4 2010 453 PM
25 Understand road development requirements Jan 4 2010 541 PM
26 taxes on nonresidents Jan 5 2010 414 PM
27 Expenses Jan 5 2010 440 PM 28 Leakage of funds partiality on road maintenance Jan 5 2010 455 PM 2010 29 Income has exceeded the amount of money that should be managed by Jan 5 657 PM volunteers
30 tack of accountability Jan 5 2010 908 PM
31 Jr work sucks Matt Person rode around drinking beer Jan 5 2010 927 PM
32 Some members make sure their roads are well maintained Jan 5 2010 939 PM
33 POSF property owners have given up on POSF Board B05lack of all Jan 6 2010 839 PM information not given about our community PM 34 Few on the Board are qualified to manage my tax in a professional manner Jan 6 2010 857 35 Costs too much money Again live on Howellsville Road Sutation is not fair Jan 8 20101000PM 36 Districtsfavoritism Jan 7 2010 952 PM
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Would you the over the support County taking management of the Sanitary District and running it as a component of the County Government
Response Response Percent Count
Yes 82491 156
No 176 32
answered question 182
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What are the three biggest challenges facing Shenandoah Farms
Response Response Percent Count
Road maintenance 8709f 207
Costs of taxes 4870 116
Drainage issueslculverts 647 154
Response to complaints 168 40
Snow removal 374 89
Lack of recreational space 105 25
Other please specify 42
answered question 238
skipped question 14
Other please specify 1 assessed tax value above current market value Dec 22 2009 457 PM
2 Inefficient use of adequate resources Dec 22 2009 853 PM 3 Do not spend enough time there to have knowledge Dec 22 2009 858 PM 4 Residents putting in their own culverts wo proper civil engineering approval Dec 23 2009 500 PM 5 Residents not prepared for snow Dec 23 2009 527 PM 6 law enforcement ie trail bikes speed limits noise shooting Dec 23 2008 845 PM
7 Where are the increased fees going Dec 23 2009 909 PM 8 drainage put in incorrectly not even worth complaining very few people use Dec 29 2009 805 PM recreational areas
9 Need more police to check area Dec 29 2009 902 PM 10 Inappropriate use of Warren money Dec 29 2009 909 PM 11 Dust control need tar and chip Dec 29 2009 945 PM 12 law enforcement Dec 29 2009 958 PM 13 enforcing rules 8 regulations Dec 30 2009 416 PM 14 cost of sanitation fees Dec 30 2009 506 PM
15 Budget management Dec 30 2009 522 PM
16 Land devaluation Dec 30 2009 828 PM 17 Ive only been here six months but 1 complaint barking dogs all day Dec 30 2009 858 PM 18 Trees need cut back on Cindys Way toward culdesac hanging out in road you Dec 30 2009 911 PM cantsee other cars coming 19 Maintaining recreational spacescommon areas Dec 30 2009 955 PM 20 knowledgeable staff Jan 4 2010 449 PM
1 of 2 Other please specify 21 more facilities at rec space mare picnic tables euipment for kids to play etc Jan 4 2010 856 PM 22 I do believe it is overassessed mine is 1500000 Jan 5 2010 356 PM 23 to tax getting people pay back Jan 5 2010 400 PM 24 Answer to 8 is Nat sure Jan 5 2010 412 PM 25 Not all roads open Jan 5 2010 500 PM 26 security Jan 5 2010 520 PM 27 for house be Zoning building lots should larger Jan 5 2010 657 PM 28 4wheelers and speeders Jan 5 2010 908 PM 29 lots junky Jan 5 2010 912 PM 30 Residents respecting each other speeding on roads is aut of control Jan 5 2010 916 PM 31 3 not sorry just would tell the whole story Jan 5 2010 927 PM 32 Policing of dogs off leash runing the neighborhoods and roads Jan 5 2010 929 PM 33 Money Budget Trust Jan 5 2010 932 PM
34 County Sheriffs attitude toward occurances in the Farms We are not lowrent Jan 5 2010 939 PM hillbillies and deserve to be responded to and be treated as well as other W C residents
35 and Round round on trying to get all informatbnabout SFSO and POSF Inc Jan 6 2010 839 PM property owners have given up on POSF Inc and the County 3B Builders and County allowing so many exception tht will affect my water Jan 6 2010 857 PM
37 indescriminate building of houses Jan 6 2010 859 PM 38 Road dust all over and inside my house Please pave the roads Jan 6 2010 916 PM 39 I all 3 vote of my issues to taxes XXXXXXX Jan 6 2010 1000 PM 40 Quality of common areas recreation centered on aesthetics not true family Jan 7 2010 952 PM recreation ie stocking of akes more grill pits play areas for kids 41 Incompetent driving homeowners who pile trash outside hunting in and around Jan 8 2010 215 PM homes
42 Taxes too high Jan 8 2010 222 PM
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Would you support paying higher Sanitary District taxes for better roads
Response Response Percent Count
Yes z 5025 118
No w 498k 117
answered question 23S
skipped queston 17
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Do you support participation in the VDOT Rurai Addition program to upgrade roads and have them taken into the State Highway System with the State paying 50 of coats the County 25 of costs and tha Shenandoah Fanms Sanitary District paying 25 of the costs
Response Response Percent Count
t Yes 748 166
No 252 56
answered question 222
skipped queatlon 30
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Do you believe the County is on the right track in terms of evaluating the options for management of the Shenandoah Farms Sanitary District
Response Response Percent Count
Yes 8399 182
No 161 35
answered question 217
skipped question 3S
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Are there any issues that concern you that have not been addressed in this survey Please specify below
Response Count
17t3
answered question 178
skipped question 74
Response Text 1 undecided on number 11 Dec 22 2009 506 PM
Trash should be picked up and all drainage should be clean School time is when most trash is getting on Mt Lake Drive might help if a sign was put up saying No Litter
2 The BOShas been lead astray by a handful of property owners The Board at Dec 22 2009 509 PM POSF has upgraded the standard of living for all in the farms 3 Thanks for giving this your attention Dec 22 2009 519 PM 4 Posting speed limits Noise ordinance enforced Enforcing dirt bike and quadtrac Dec 22 2009 523 PM laws Grading both sides of road from ditch to ditch instead of compensating one side because of trees or taking feet aut of other side of road from property that is owned Enforcing Geanup of unimproved lots 5 With every lot have some sanitary tax No exemptions Dec 22 2009 536 PM
Trash burning and rule are not enforced
5406361785 welcome to call 6 number 10 Sanitary District taxes already high enough Dec 22 2009 540 PM 7 Regraveling the roads in a manner that buries the culvert openings at each end Dec 22 2009 705 PM 8 Items 4 5 6 Since moving to Tennessee in 1987 we have been unable to visit Dec 22 2009 712 PM Shenandoah Farms and do not have the information available to make an evaluation of current conditions We have our taxes current however we feel that the valuation placed on our property is excessive and does not reflect the true value of the property We have attempted to sell the property on several occasions without success We have also considered abandoning the property and letting it be sold for back unpaid taxes however we have not done so in the hope that the economy will rebound and the property will eventually sell Signed Dennis Harris 9 Use of off road vehicles in Shenandoah Farms roads and private property Dec 22 2009 718 PM
10 There is an issue with getting Tomahawk cleared of snow Blue Mountain says Dec 22 2009 724 PM Shenandoah should do it but it is a private bus stop for public schools Always a nightmare to get up and down to get kids to school
11 Erosion of our land lots 910 Riverview 6 caused by a new drainage pipe pouring Dec 22 2009 729 PM water across our land on Dry Run Court The water being channeled across our property is not our water but the new neighbors who recently built 3 or 4 new homes up the hill Anew water drainage culvert was installed in 2007 that diverts water hidden under the road from the other side of the road onto our property
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12 Answers to questions 8 and 11 would be maybe Dec 22 2009 832 PM
1 am glad these issues are being look at Although to truly be able to make a decision on these questions I would like to have more information 1 believe what were paying in Sanitary District Fees now should be more than an ample amount It seems as if raising the fees are an annual issue anymore Is the money theyre taking in being spent wisely Will our fees go higher if the County takes over I dontbelieve anyone in the community purchased their homes here with the expectations of asphalt roads curb and guttering street lights etc which it seems like with talk of raising the sdanitary district fees all the time that thatswhat the current Board has in mind yeah it would be great but who could afford it l hope the results of htis survey will be made public and thank you for your attention 13 No but the road maintenance here is piss poor Rot holes patched return quickly Dec 22 2008 842 PM Drainage the end of my driveway washes out because of no drainage This is also piss poor and angering as I cannot solve the problem 14 Answer to 10 is yes only if my road gets paved Dec 22 2009 844 PM 15 I am a landowner for over 30 years and part time resident Answer to 10 and 11 Dec 22 2009 849 PM depends on response to the following Which costs Upgrade costs Ongoing costs or both What would we get in return What is the change in homeownerscosts now vs then 1B The roads are adequate I prefer them to not be better managed It makes Dec 22 2009 853 PM people go slower and make for more privacy rural
Ive been here 11 years and I prefer the roads the way they were We dontneed more or County help 1 think we should step back I dontwant to pay more for something I donteven want 17 There is not nearly enough police presence around Shenandoah Farms If there Dec 22 2009 902 PM was we would not have to put up with so much discharging of firearms This is serious 1 have called the SheriffsDept many times for this 1 think there needs to be a real effort put forth by law enforcement to find and prosecute anyone responsible before an innocent person is seriously hurt or even killed 18 Answer to 5 is dontknow As retirees we dontuse them enough to make a Dec 22 2009 907 PM judgment
Re question 10 yes and noanswers only on a questions like this make me nervous How much tax increse were talking about could determine how I would answer this question 19 3 However the management is not comfortable with the amount of monies they Dec 23 2009 452 PM are working with
13 Only concern with the VDOT rural addition is the right of way of usually 40 to meet safety standards for secondary roads
Recommend a model of having an adwisory board for the sanitary district and 34 fulltime staff of the County
2of17 Response Text 20 We feel with the recent development on the mountain there have been some Dec 23 2009 500 PM situations that should not have been allowed to happen Having more families move to the mountain Warren Countyleaving the building of the roads and culverts in the hands of unqualified buildeNbuilders was a big oversight for the County The health safety and welfare of each and every resident is jeopardizedNot having safe passable roads is an issue that cannot be overlooked any longer WE have residenls who put in their own culverts causing roads to be unsafeYou cantmove over to yield right away youllend up in a ditch On TomahawkDale Carpenter has a line of ROCKS in the middle of the road why is this allowed to hapen I can see Rocks lined on his property line but the middle of the ROAD There are some issues that concern me Attitudes in the Community Please dontthink the community attitude should reflect what is a necessary change to the road issues Some people dontlike change and dontknow what is good for them I dontwant my house to burn down because the Fire Department cantnavigate around potholes one lane goat trails and seriously deep ditches on the side of the road 21 3 Not sure I only lived here since August09 Dec 23 2009 502 PM 5 Not sure 6 Unsure Dontknow road Dec 22 Asa 22 yr homeowner on 638 we chose to live on the hard surface not on 23 2009 509 PM the dirt roads and therefore we believe it is not fair for us to pay higher sanitary district fees for the maintenance of roads we do not use every often In the 22 yrs we have been here the roads we have been on have greatly improved 23 How is charging property owners a sanitary district fee not double taxation As Dec 23 2009 517 PM from we already pay County tax and do not benefit County water or sewer rather than most Bid process seems to have been awarded based on favoritism efficient or reasonable bid Dec 24 I believe that the County sees the money corning from this district and want a cut 23 2009 527 PM of it where as before when the slees meet the trees they wanted nothing to do with Shenandoah Farms All the complaints you all are receiving are coming from residents that have not lived here very long and have not seen the improvements to the roads They see a pot hole and have a fit The people that have moved up that here moved here to get away from higher taxes they themselves caused because they had to have such well maintained and black top roads They drove themselves out of their own tax bracket now they have come to Warren County and are starting to complain and request roads tie made which will again cause because of taxes have done taxes to go up They wiU move again something they once again Dec 23 2009 529 PM 25 Read my lips NO NEW TAXES 26 Note Henry Williams has been decesed for many years and I have only visited Dec 23 2009 532 PM Our lot is still and at it Shenandoah Farms very infrequently forested my age t14 I do home on the or will become part of my estate not plan to build any property at Farms B Williams to participate in any of the activities Shenandoah Betty
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is non Dec 2009 539 PM 27 1665 Old Linden Rd Snow removal is inconsistent Road mainteannce 23 existent WE have had to dig and maintain the drainage ditches along the road to is divert water away from the houseproperty Every time any maintenance needed along the roadway drainage or dbrush removal we have been told by the past board that we would have to do it ourselves ar organize a volunteer day
We had had our house for sale for the past 4 consecutive years EVERY prospect has complained about the condition of the roads specifically Old Linden Rd
Please feel free to contact us if you need additional information
Jim Rena Aston 75 Feldspar Drive Jefferson GA 30549 7033875295 Property address 1665 Old Linden Road JD Aston Dec 732 PM 28 Answers to 6 8 Not sure 23 2009
Answer to 11 Probably 2009 747 PM 29 Question 11 until you show the costs of VDOT Rural Addition Program I cant Dec 23 agree or disagree on this question have the Dec 754 PM 30 Turning over to County will endanger the personal touch we now once 23 2009 do County taxes over we have no local contact Also why would County better when theyre a bureaucracy It has become Dec 2009 758 PM 31 The drainage issue as mentioned in 9 is critical a real danger as 23 the temperatures dip below freezing Also there are roads that would be more useful if paved such as Oregon Hollow I will leave the Dec 32 Any opinion expressed here on my part wouldbe purely prejudicial 23 2009 806 PM decisions to the POSF and Warren County Thanks for asking Harold Matthias 808 33 Low income senior Dec 23 2009 PM Dec 812 34 Note As indicated in response to question 1 I am not a resident and have not 23 2009 PM in visited the property in several years Therefore I do not believe 1 am a position least to respond to remaining survey questions but felt obliged to at reply MJ Putzter Dec 83fi 35 The district represents such a wide and varied area geographically that the 23 2009 PM and current system no longer works 1 live in the Mountain view district often those in the lower travel or have to travel thru other sections No doubt that folks elevation area have never done so to my benefit Dec 2009 845 PM 36 All issues are presented as yes or no questions 23 at cost Ws are not told what we are a getting b bsing c what Dec 23 2009 848 PM 3T question 10 They are already going up each year
question 3 B10 years Dec 2009 858 PM 38 question 6 Not sure 23 question 8 below It is I was on the Board of Directors POSF for almost 8 years a thankless job requires lots of hours all volunteered and the community for the most part are oblivious to how much the directors care and how hard they try to improve the 2 No community I left 6 years ago when a new job required hrday commuting how time to give Each Board has done better than the one before I am not sure the County would handle POSFSneeds It is inevitable the government take over of the due to the size I am concerned about community oversight of the running district I support the decision of the current board Karen Sprint 5405514444 shale is a Dec 2009 901 PM 39 Put in culvert pipes and clean out ditches Just grading spreading 23 Lew Miller waste of money if you dontdo the above Doug
4of17 Response Text 40 We would like the district fee to sanitary be assessed on a per owner basis for Dec 232009 906 PM all lots that are to each attached otherwith no homes on them that are owned by same the person We believe this would be a fair assessment since there are no or culverts on houses driveways the lots and no additional driversvehciles using the roads
41 We are not better getting any roads than we had when the fee was 1000per lot Dec 23 2009 909 PM Where are all the funds going
42 I believe that the do County would a betterjob at maintaining roads The roads Dec 23 2009 913 PM need to be paved The County does not have the legal right to take over Shenandoah Farms land and open it to the public I voted for 43 the sanitary district years past It was a much needed cash flow to the Dec 23 2009 916 PM roads Since then the roads improved without much tax increase I dontwant tax increases Ive been large happy with POSF I want to maintain a very slow rate in of increases taxes However if this is an economizing propose a savings then we should check it out per 12 44 I live on estatemaintained road and am paying many different taxes to the state Dec 29 2009 431 PM already Why do I now also pay asanitary district fee as well 45 Road conditions are my biggest concern Dec 29 2009 438 PM 46 to Answer 8is yes and no I believe there needs to be a recyding center at the Dec 29 2009 445 PM Shenandoah Farms refuse site
47 to Answer 8and 13 Dec 29 2009 449 PM
Robbery dontpolice it well enough Allegheny power cutting down trees on property
48 Answers to were 7 but what 3 4 11 12 yes at costs Dec 29 2009 452 PM
Other issues building in the flood plain It is done in other places with guildelines why cantwe do it
49 Answer to 10 yes if it comes to that so be it No high enough already Dec 29 2009 459 PM
14 Ifyou are a newer homebuyer in the Farms do you feel you were misled by the POSF newsletter that fisted your road for paving the next year thereby influencing your decision to buy a house in this location Yes
15 Do you feel like the amount of money spent on gravel scraping and labor has been a waste of resources for the last 50 years or more Yes
16 Do you feet there should be an investigation into the past handling of contracts awards conflicts of interest etc that may have led to the rediculous conditions concerning the roadwork in the Farms Yes 50 Huck Finnsalways snowed in and road never gets proper care Potholes Dec 29 2009 702 PM washes away needs culverts This road sucks We hate it
51 10 depends on amount of increase 11 Dontknow Dec 29 2009 717 PM
We live on 638 and chose this location in order to avoid road issues Weve lived here since 1984 We gradually became accepting of the fee inceases that accompanied the Sanitary District formation and are pleased that the roads have improved so dramaticaiiy We are nervous however about paying substantially more in sanitary district fees for services from which we do not derive significant benefit Wedlike to request that residents on 638 be given a break rf feasible Many thanks Carol Olson
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52 Certain locations road not wide enough for 2 vehicles Dec 29 2009 719 PM
Would like to see Sheriff patrols more regularly because of guns discharging ATVS Z speeders 53 The disparity in charges for Clarke and Warren County residents of Shenandoah Dec 29 2009 727 PM Farms
Nor fair for folks living on 638 to pay the same as those on the other roads in SF 729 54 Vehicles speeding in the Farmsl 4wheelers on the roads Dec 29 2009 PM to to VDOT 805 55 11 But this would take hundres of thousands of dollars get them Dec 29 2009 PM standards
Ditches and culverts have to be put in correctly to upgrade the quantitiues or flow before making roads better otherwise you are wasthing money and time I have been in land development for 25 years
that or fit cars Dec 2009 808 PM 56 Not clearing overgrowth on sides of roads so we can see properly 2 29 down the road
wo no Dec 2009 812 PM 57 Commitment by POSF to enforce drainage probelms caused by driveways 29 culverts and drain ditches filled in with gravel to make driveways We pay tax to maintain the roads and then watch residents fiN in the ditches no body does anything Claude Poston the area Dec 817 PM 58 Roads are always the top concern We do not want urbanized We just 29 2009 want better access to our homes Even some crush and run laid properly would in be an improvement to dirt roads in the 2nd biggest subdivision Virginia Thanks Steve Pittman what is 820 PM 59 Ifthe County takes over the management of the POSF then the Dec 29 2009 difference between County taxes and the Sanitary District fees be in Dec 2009 824 PM 60 Amount of increase in dues Will there covenants put place 29 Dec 827 PM 61 12 Dontknow 29 2009
Roads are biggest issue Farms Dec 2009 838 PM 62 8 It our fees and taxes are spent here in the 29 10 If all of the roads are taken car of and not just some
We would like to see better roads in all of Shenandoah Farms not just High Top Other people live in the SFD that want our lot fees spent on our roads The current Board of Directors da a great job and we think they try hard They do citizens to involved not to need more help This community needs more of its get few cantdo it all just sit and complain abot everything a people PM 63 No issues Dec 29 2009 840 and maintenance Dec 2009 858 PM 64 We are satisfied with road maintenance rec 29 area cars Dec 2009 902 PM 65 Too many dogs running lose and need more police in checking plus 29 people that drive around but dontlive here and not be Dec 2009 909 PM 66 Board has to realize that Sanitary District money cannot should spent 29 of homeowners vs land owners in Clarke County Need a more equitable taxing Dec 29 2009 914 PM 67 6
to live here We dontneed to It gets hard paying the taxes we have to pay just fixed income We also live on state pay more taxes We are senior citizens on back roads maintained road but have had to travel on some of the which are pretty bad We believe they could do better
6of17 Response Text 68 Too much money spent every year on lakes that are not used much They should Dec 29 2009 923 PM fiN in the lakes and spend money on the roads Not enough supervision on maintaining roads to make sure the work is done property When they plow or grade the road they leave our ditches full and we always have a pile ofstuff in front ofthe driveway and we have to remove it Neither my husband nor I can clean up after them because of health the last 2 years 69 11 The funds from the SD should be adequate to maintain the roads Dec 29 2009 942 PM ATVSThe use of ATVSshould be permitted by lawabiding adults in SF A safely operated ATV has LESS impact on the roads then any motor vehicle 500 8001bs vs 25009000 lbs ATVS DO NOT destroy the roads People operating ATVS and motor vehicles like maniacs destroy the roads The masses should not be punished far the actions of a few I support a progralm to issue permits to 18years 8 older property owners for use of ATVS in Shenandoah Farms The fees for permits can be aplied towards maintenance of roads I have heard all the horror stories of drunk rednecks on ATVS tearing up the Farms The same destruction can come from a drunk driving a Honda Civic Either way operating a vehides under the influence is illegal The past should not be held against the property owners of SF I am more concerned about the high caliber gun fire I hear than any ATV Feet free to contact me a 5406353665 Thanks Mike Marshall
7 I have attended the monthly meetings and have witnessed bad attitudes and personality conflicts There is no room for bullies in the POSF do much with Dec 2009 945 PM 70 Thanks for your help but we are on a fixed income we can only so 29 higher TAXI We could use tar and chip on Venus Br Rd We have been here since 1977 could use some help
71 5 Not interested in common property only roads Dec 29 2009 958 PM 10 We are taxed way above property value now Dogs four wheeler speeders stop signs speed limit signs junk run down shacks with no electric or water with people living in them Electric always going with 7 8 out dust raw sewage dogs barking running loose people dogs coon hounds Drunks at common properties where school buses pickup kids at back gate Cars parked on roads kids walk out in front of cars Moms Dads stand in road Need a lot to pick up kids not road junk cars junk trailers junk of all kinds need deaned up
LAWS ENFORCED NL LAW ENFORCEMENT Dec 2009 321 PM 72 4 is yes 5096 of time 30
other Decrease value of properties doe to lack ofenforcement of residences maintaining upkeep of their residence
Odor of raw sewage in particulary in summer months
Grading in front of residences keep cutting down towards my driveway yard creating standing water and pot holes large 73 The road crew is overpaid and underworked Check his license Dec 30 2009 324 PM PM 74 I am very satisfied with the upkeep on Hobbs Knob Rd I understand how those Dec 30 2009 329 We need to there were no higher up the mountain have problems accept assurances of great roads when we moved here The problem is not with POSF ouselves in or the County We should be able to accept situations we put 75 Yes something needs to be done at the end of my road so that I can see to pull Dec 30 2009 332 PM out its very dangerous Dec 2009 76 345 68 912 all had and no answers 30 335 PM
77 Keep taxes low Dec 30 2009 337 PM
7of17 Raspons Text 78 10 Absolutely NO 11 Not enough Info What does it cost me 12 No Dec 30 2009 352 PM Unsure
We are in the worst recession since 1929 my pay has been cut 10 I cuold be I I layed off at any time I can not pay more taxes already pay to much in taxes is estimate 055of every dollar I make goes for taxes That more than half even in new math
AND I VOTE MR TRACZYK1 357 79 11 Not sure Dec 30 2009 PM
We are paying too much now and have much less than we had when I moved here in 1981 No night camping no boat landing gazebos daN diamond pools hunting area 4 wheelers fishing areas ie Pond access tennis basketball Court camping leantoos at lakes diving dock is gone at lake of the Clouds and common property for barbeques and more Most people here now dontremember what this place was designed to be PRIVATE RECREATIONAL COMMUNITY AND WAS GATED kind of Dec 2009 413 PM 80 I dontreally have concerns I would like to see tar 8 chip or some state 30 maintained road then maybe we could get mail delivered to our houses large like sooner trash pick up for large things furniture etc snow removal B1 Answers to 5and 12 were marked Yes and No Dec 30 2009 422 PM
rise road The 1 thing is the money I am retired and cannot afford a in maintenance We live in River Section 6 which 1 was led to believe we were on our own maintenance schedule and if that is so then I can see getting this section of road to be brought up to State specs then surface treated then paved Even if this means collecting extra money from all the neighbors that live or own land in this section to chip in for the one time paving operation Maintenance could be managed with less effot and cost would be much less Ed Ferguson 82 I believe that the County needs to also investigate people on the board for Dec 30 2009 42fi PM improper management and have the community have the first option for positions that may come about with the County taking over and have community volunteer training in fire emergency snow removal drivers operators
83 Yes Current road maintenance chairman does not know his butt from a pot Dec 30 2009 500 PM hole in the road This position should require experience in the field dont Dec 506 PM i4 2is 510 years 3yes except for the fees 5 use 30 2009
in fees more I am one person owning one vehicle and paying T95 sanitation than my taxes Thts ludicrous I moved here 7 years ago because it was the only area I could afford thats changed 2009 510 PM 85 1 Rental Property Dec 30
A guard rail is needed on Drummer Hill Rd just below Kits 8 going toward Venus Branch very dangerous in the winter especially as it is a main cut through in Shenandoah Farms
86 Reference to fi and 8 above Would the County take over of the Sanitary Dec 30 2009 514 PM District result in higher taxes for administrative fees The main issue for me is a desire to have better road maintenance without a major increase in taxes or assessment fees I would be interested in some better information on the options as it relates to there two areas
8of17 Response TTsxt 87 10 Solid budget management with longterm planning vs short term fixes likely Dec 30 2009 522 PM would have alleviated some of the road issues experienced over the years
1f not already existing a 5 10 10 yr plan for road maintenancedevelopment should be beneficial Similar plans may work for other important issuesareas as welt
Nothing persona just an opinion from a distant seat and exposure to other original recreational communities Suggest expbring whatsworked and not worked for other similar type communities 88 12 Dontknow Dec 30 2009 824 PM My main concern is the maintenance of our road Hobbs Nob Road Is onty 1 J2 mile long 3 does not conned to any other road except Blue Mountain Rd We have only 9 houses on this road For many years we were on the bottom of the list for maintenance For many years there was no maintenance Mons than once several of the homeowners paid to have some work done on own road In 2005 POSF Inc agreed to return to us a portion of our Sanitary DisMct fees if we would maintain our road This has worked out very well and our road is better than ever Whatever is decided for the future we hope 8 pray that this agreement will be honored that we can continue to maintain our road by receiving a portion of the fees paid by own home owners While we do not live on Hobbs Nob year round we have owned land 8 a house since 1974 paying taxes 8 homeowners fees these many years Harry 8 Dorothy Kinney 89 12 No Commend Dec 30 2009 828 PM
90 There are sortie unsafe bus stops for school kids in our community that need Dec 30 2009 831 PM addressed There is a clog of parentslkids waiting for buses where the private roads meet the state road There is no space for the waiting parentskids to allow other motorists out 91 11 Not enough information to answer this there needs to be more information of Dec 30 2009 844 PM costs and impact to ask us for an answer
92 5 Have never used them 11 Dec 30 2009 847 PM
Our roads are no better today then the day we moved in and we pay 10000 more now Also people need to know how to drive in snow and ice that would help with a lot of the problems during the winter 93 5 Dontuse no opinion 11 As long as the cost is not high Dec 30 2009 851 PM
Most of the residents in Shenandoah Farms are in a bw income bracket so I think cost of maintenance and consequently our fees are a big consideration 94 10 We already pay too much 12 Do not know the options so cannot Dec 30 2009 853 PM answer
95 I own 3 lots 8 pay taxes on all 3 but only have 1 house Too much taxi Dec 30 2009 855 PM 96 Was seasonal resident from 1964 2006 Dec 30 2009 858 PM 97 12 No idea Less government is always best Dec 30 2009 858 PM roads 98 Only willing to pay higher taxes for paved wellmaintained Dec 30 2009 900 PM 99 Poor maintenance of roads results in WASTED money Dirt roads CAN BE done Dec 30 2009 903 PM correctly and need minimal work But that is not the case in Shenandoah Farms
9of17 Response Text 100 5 NlA Dontuse Dec 30 2009 911 PM
Trees need trimmed back so you can see others Fix holes in roads Need culvert next to end of CindysWay Reven fills with water and washes road out Roads need widen for todays traffic tar 8 chip or pave Need to enforce the rules of Association ATVSand Hunters signs put up and disappear 5 or 10 minutes after are to they put up need be cemented in People pull up signs and throw them up in woods
101 Provate Company will be better as bng as current POSF Board Members 8 Dec 30 2009 915 PM Chairs are not allowed to be hired on due to the conflict of interest Clause should be incorporated preventing it 102 We own some lots but do not live there We could defer to the residents to make Dec 30 2009 921 PM the decision Hopefully the area is appreciating the current homeowners take pride in the neighborhood We wiN pay our just taxes S fees unto we can sell to folks who wiN take an active part in this community We are military and never were able to participate in this community Trudy 8 Mich Hoff 75T3437883 103 Delapidated housesproperties People using their lots as commercial storage for Dec 30 2009 924 PM old cars trash trailers construction equipment
If we are to pay for the Rec areas they should be permitted to be on after dark and used as such for camping and Rec use 104 8 10 Depends on 96 increase Dec 30 2009 951 PM
I support an increase in SD taxes for upgradngour roads only if change is somewhat done in a timely manner I have lived on Vesey for almost 3 years and have only witnessed twice maintenance done on the road 1 usually have to e mail the office just to get the road Chairman to look at the condition Our vehicles are suffering because ofthe many potholes that pepper the dirt not gravel because like I said only twice in almost 3 years has it been added sufficiently road I would love to see a timlined approach for the VDOT Rural Addition to see whenifmy family and direct neighbors will benefit from an increase in SD taxes The County will likely need to make a large initial Investment to make a significant change all homeowners can see The ROI will be greater as more houses will be built and vacant houses filled because the standard ofItving wilt be higher Hopefully if I support an increase I will see same improvement personally where f live Thanks Andrew Johnson 105 4 Yes and No Some acceptable some not 8 Yes and No Lots of Dec 30 2009 955 PM Questions
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Clarke County residents in Shenandoah Farms need to pay the Sanitary DisMct taxes at the same rate as Warren County residents
108 8 Yes using set laws to govern all sanitary districts in Warren County Jan 4 2010 449 PM
Property values drop here with unimproved roads ie access to property snow removal is only 1 lane recreational property has been shut down or limited after 23 years of taxes and fees my property still has no decent road coverage of gravel adjacent to it I advocate the taxesfees to stay in my section and used for my section Mt Lake Section 2 ONLY to see some improvement 107 Would like to see the snow cleared from the roads better along with treating the Jan 4 2010 453 PM roads berier during the winter for less accidents to happen Also would tike to see more gravel put down on the rods Would be nice to have the roads paved 108 Higher taxes is something we do not need during these hard times Jan 4 2010 455 PM 109 I have not seen my property in 30 years Just try to keep the cost down on Jan 4 2010 458 PM whatever you do
110 5 Do not use Jan 4 2010 500 PM
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111 1 Some properties are undevelopable and should have a lower fee because Jan 4 2010 508 PM they are not used 2Warren CountyPOSE should otfer an adjustment offees to delinquent owners who are indigent or elderly 3 Dec 21 more than 24 hrs after snow stopped falling our road was not done and we could not get out Snow contractor should have gotten extra crews before the first flake They can always be sent home if not needed 4 Our tax assesed values are now greater than resale Can there be an adjustment to lower this like there was one to increase it 5 Took 615hrs for the plow to come through For some reason mountain prople are given priority over homes on roads which connect to Route 638
Kathleen George 126 Walker Farm Dr Front Royal Va 22630 112 Taxes are too high for a piece of property that has gone down in value every year Jan 4 2010 518 PM 113 I think you done already made up your mind so I dontthink anything the residents Jan 4 2010 534 PM say wiq carry any wieght 1 bought here because it was cheap and I wanted to retire here But you have city folk moving in who knew when they bought and moved in that we had dirt roads Dirt roads mean pot holes Ifhtey want gutters and curbs they should have stayed in the city some of us are on fixed incomes We cannot afford b pay more taxes 114 Hiring of a private management Company cost Jan 4 2010 538 PM 115 Higher taxes More regulations County stay out that problem Jan 4 2010 537 PM 116 Money is not the issue there Ia enough it is misused or used inadequately Jan 4 2010 541 PM 117 Weve lived in the Farms for 24 years its a rural area and should be kept that way Jan 4 2010 543 PM Ifpeople want it Ilek the city 8 towns then they should move there Most people cannot afford an increase in taxes or fees at this time
118 1 support paving the steeper higside roads It would be cheaper in the bng run to Jan 4 2010 548 PM bear the cost of paving now than to continue to put gravel and grade the hills every time it has a rain 119 8Things are becoming too difficult for volunteers and they have put themselves Jan 4 2010 750 PM in what couk be a legal situation from taw suits 10 Total taxes to County 56028 Total fees b Shen Farms 80500 As you can see we pay more b Shen Farms than to the County 11 Do not know enough about costs to make an informed decision
13 The question I have is how many year round residents would be willing to pay 10096 ofthis tax rate for Warren County to support the roads in Shen Farms I feel that we are probably not the only owners paying equal or more b Shen Farms than we pay to Warren County in taxes 120 I live in MV ii which only has access b Rt 838 via Tomahawk through Blue Mt Jan 4 2010 753 PM Subdivision or Old Linden through Linden Heights This is a problem that must be resolved
121 Yes There is no road leading to my undeveloped land Acorn Way has become Jan 4 2010 853 PM someonespersonal driveway Acorn Way has a notrespassing sign rather than a street sign 122 There shouldntbe HOA fees and personal property tax that is double dipping Jan 4 2010 855 PM 123 Roads are the major concern Jan 4 2010 858 PM
124 I was told my driveway entrance would be fixed with my drainage at 381 Youngs Jan 4 2010 859 PM Drive After many calls with no return caq 1 gave up I was lied to and their promise was broken Some one did come and Took but that was all
125 My largest concern is a rise in taxes any increase in taxes that causes my Jan 4 2010 901 PM mortgage to rise will become an unthinkable burden on my family
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128 Road maintenance lack of Jan 4 2010 903 PM Try new blood Trustworthy New Direction Lack of communication one one one with property owners ie taxpayers
127 4 have not visited for over 5 years Jan 5 2010 356 PM 5 answer to 4 applies 6 Not sure 7 Cannot property reply 8 Not sure 11 I cannot afford more taxes 12 Maybe Just not sure
Mr Wisbn died June 09 Wish I could be more involed just cannot at this time Please address furtuer correspondence to me Creola V Loyd formerly Wilson P O Box 3422 Warrenton Va 20188
Sony 1 was responding to Clarke Co lot Mr Wilson died so either I am sole owner or wmy sons 128 Cleaning grasses out of8 lakes so they can be used for fishing Jan 5 2010 400 PM Do baiter with 4wheelers Clearing trees and brush along road 129 Involving another level ofoversight further dips into sparse funds as they are Jan 5 2010 402 PM 130 You already made us Sanitary District from private I think it should be mandatory Jan 5 2010 406 PM the government already taxes the roads and issues front of them they areeady get the money David Tipper
131 Answer to 11 is Not sure 12 left blank Jan 5 2010 412 PM
9 new houses have been built on my onewaydirt road in 5 years Culverts are smashed and 3foot wide pot holes result Lake Dr was widened alter I wrote POSF of a crash due to occur and I appreciate the immediate and amazing job they did One new house will seal for Hearty 40000000 the builder told me This will create a lot of guests on a 71NY road How to widen it is a problem FY1 I am not at my house in winter am at 8384888 I am 85 Dec 21 2009 132 I feet the Farms has gotten too large for a committee of locals 8 volunteers to Jan 5 2010 416 PM handle Most people living there do not have time to help wthe care and maintenance of the area
133 Bus stop at Freezeland and Tomahawk the road is not wide enough Jan 5 2010 41 B PM 134 10 At least double the taxes lets hard top alt the main loop from Manor up Old Jan 5 2010 430 PM Oak Venus Branch and around to start Jan 135 8 fit is cheaper yes 5 2010 440 PM 11 If it is cheaper than the existing taxes
13 Yes cost effective These rate for nonresidents with property only are outrageous 136 NO MORE TAXES Jan 5 2010 443 PM NO MORE SANITARY DISTRICT RAISES I can get in and out with fourwheal drive 8 chains People without fourwheel drive TOUGH YOU SHOULDNTBE ON A MOUNTAIN TOP
137 11 No opinion Jan 5 2010 448 PM
Ive never seen the government do anything better or cheaper or more efficiently Get ready for higher taxes
12 of 17 Response Text 138 I was trying to complete the survey and realize I cannot answer most of the Jan 5 2010 452 PM questions since I have not visited the property in more than six years I know I should and so I have added it to my ToDo Listfrom time to time butstill dont find the time It is hard to be concerned about the dirt roads in Shenandoah Farms when I currently live on a dirt road in King George County Our road is maintained by the StateCounty but not well in these budge crunch times I know that state maintenance doe note guarantee a paved road 1 can sympathize with residents of the Farms and if I lived there I would probably be in favor of the State and County taking over management of the property in light of hte growth and size of the development Good luck with your endeavors 139 I pay more in taxes to Warren County and the Sanitary District for two Jan 5 2010 455 PM undeveloped lots than I da far a house and 5 acres here Something is wrong with this arrangement 140 10 My road is statemaintained should be exempted we do not use back Jan 5 2010 457 PM roads 11 Yes but would need additional info
141 Would tike roads open the road to our land has not been maintained and we can Jan 5 2010 500 PM only walk in Please open ali roads 142 None that would be helpful Jan 5 2010 502 PM 143 8dontknow Jan 5 2010 520 PM
Access to certain lotshigh tax assessment 144 Cost Questions 10 and 11 indicate there will be a higher cost to me to live here Jan 5 2010 1306 PM and that is to be expected The question is how much Will will my portion of the expense be and can I afford that
145 Answers to 3 4 5 were marked both yes and no Answer to 10 marked yes and Jan 5 2010 657 PM no depends on how much higher Answer to 11 I dontknow enough about this program to answer this question
I am concerned about ditches and culverts directing drainage into the creeks due to environmental effects of situation
I am also concerned about lot size 1 feel the lots are too small and we need new zoning regulations to increse the size of the lot required to build t worry that the current size will affect well water flow and water quality if building continues as it has in the past I am also concerned about possible land slide issues t3ecause we are on the side of a mountain I also da not like the use of new septic systems as I believe these are the same systems that caused problems in Loudoun County several years ago Additionally they make all lots buildable not just those that perk
I am aso concerned about the amount of tree loss that has occurred due to the building We are after alt located on the great Blue Ridge mountains in the eastern decidious forest which makes us a very important component of the environment here in the east We occupy a large chunk of land here and I hate to look at the mountain from the valley and see it deruded of trees because we continued to build on every single lot 146 Gluestions 3 7 do not live in area and rarely visit so do not feel qualified to Jan 5 2010 900 PM render meaningful opinion
147 Question 11 need more information Jan 5 2010 901 PM
148 We chose not to live on the mountain because of road conditions Dontthink that Jan 5 2010 904 PM higher fees and change in management wilt help those on mountain much 149 Need to collect taxes and fees from nonresident property owners Jan 5 2010 906 PM
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150 4uestion 2 is 7 years Jan 5 2010 912 PM
Paved roads would increase everyoneshome value roads are terrible most of the year Neighbors need to dean the junk off their lots Western Lane and other roads are disgusting Force the HOA rules Stop spending on signs no one obeys and they get stolen or spray painted Spend wisely on roads Thank you 151 Widening of roads is necessary especially high traffic roads ieTulip Poplar c Jan 5 2010 914 PM Old Linden 1 vehicle only can pass and since it is a steep incline with dangerously deep culverts it is horrible especially when snow is present
152 Questions 3 5 6 7 8 or unanswered Question 10 as necessary Jan 5 2010 918 PM 153 How to reduce conflicts within the Shenandoah Farms Leadership Elect more Jan 5 2010 920 PM women to leadership rates 154 I pay road taxes every time I buy gas I should not have to pay twice I pay Jan 5 2010 927 PM property tax on lots that just sit there no car on road no people at common properties not fair This is the second largest community in VA my POSF fees were 1500and now 16510 The roads should be 3X better they are not It took 7 years to get a culvert replaced For 7 years I repaired the road where the culvert overflooded never asked for a dime The people on the board dontknow what they are doing They make the same mistakes over and over PLEASE HELP USl George Hill 155 I think there is going to be a trust problem with the Board members The amount Jan 5 2010 932 PM of money the Farms generates is a lot more than in 1993 Somebody needs to be accountable other than volunteers
156 Questions 3 8 4 were both yes and no Could be a tot better though but current Jan 5 2010 939 PM Board doing well under circumstances Roads are OK except during snow Question 10 to a point Question 11 again how much how fast at what cost
This survey should be sent out again Sending it right before Christmas with a 20 day deadline mine was postmarked 1210 is not enough time to get enough vaNd responses
Thank you very much for asking these questions 157 Question 12 UNSURE Jan 5 2010 943 PM
I do not know what work has been done by the County as far as evaluation of our District
158 11 Only about 5r6 or less of our roads would qualify for this program The Jan 5 2010 958 PM question give the perception that all the roads would be included That the way several residents I have tacked with perceived the questions implications
Ralp Rinaldi POSF Director for 14 years Chairman for 3 terms
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159 4 State maintained road Patty Tract Lane Jan 6 2010 258 PM 6 Dontknow 7 unanswered 8 marked NA 9 unanswered 11 12 marked NA
160 10 If I can see actual improvement Jan 6 2010 259 PM
13 Speeding on the roads
14 of 17 Response Text 161 11 Maybe Jan 6 2010 309 PM
13 Believe this survey should have been more informative Our roads are be havent put in VDOT You givben both parties time to come up with a better plan and time from objective to be covered and VDOT what roads could be taken over time frame 10 years to 30 years Snow removal on said roads before 3 days after like this past snow in Dec 638 wasnY plowed until 3 days after Our roads were done 1 day one lane Next day alt roads We were all able to get out and emergency vehicles in the lane 638 was the worst road
The POSF needs to submit a plan to the County and see if it is the same as their plan wit be Will take more than 3 months for us all to know what is better
162 There are a lot of people living on Howeltsvitle Road who pay very high taxes and Jan 6 2010 312 PM sanitary district fees The County maintains the state road We have paid fees for years and received nothing in return We are paying for maintenance of the mountain roads which we never use It is absolutely unfair and we are certainly not interested in paying any more 163 12 Answer is unsure Jan 6 2010 314 PM 164 s 3 5 7 10 12 left blank Jan 6 2010 315 PM 165 3The SFSD has never been managed 4What does this have to do with Jan 6 2010 839 PM current management 11 This little bit of info from a 6 page memorandum given by County What about the additional funds for utilities buying land etc 12 Try to run a Property Onwers Corporation as part of Government 13 See below 1 A survey with misleading questions 2 A survey put out 1 per household when my husband and I are Warren County Tax payers 3 4 questions that have nothing to do with County contract with POSF 4 All W C BOS not getting all information 5 POSF Inc not giving WC BOS complete info or not understanding 6 Most of questions are not ayesNoquestion need to give more info to SFSD tax payers so we can make a confident decision about SFSD 7 I feel the WCBOS is not giving or understanding complete info to be able to make a confident decision about SFSD I feel POSF is given or understanding that SFSD and POSF are separate I feel property owners are not informed completely given wrong info 166 5 There are no common properties located within Sanitary District according to Jan 6 2010 857 PM metes and bounds in Court and County records 10 After management is handled better 8 bids done correctty then possibly 11 You did not give all the info cost of moving utilities buying land cost of moving mailboxes etc is paid for by the community County meeting stated at public hearing on January 5th 900 am 167 In reference to 10 we are on a paved road If folks on unpaved want the roads Jan 6 2010 901 PM paved they should pay for it not those on paved roads
168 25 is too much for us to pay need to be lower thanks Jan 6 2010 902 PM 169 As things change they need to be reevaluated Overall the current Board has Jan 6 2010 904 PM done a good job but road issues have gotten worse Access for emergency vehicles in poor weather is bad
15 of 1 T Response Text 170 We support the County taking over management as long as we have adequate Jan 6 2010 912 PM road and maintenance snow removal our roads need to be treated as any other secondary road in the County and not or worse A feultime staff needs to be in place for the community needs Road maintenance is the main issue to be
addressed Granted most of us live an dirt roads but the wearand tear on vehicles is unacceptable due to many and recurring pot holes every time it rains Another issue is the question of where do our feestaxes go Wil the remain in our community or are we going to fund CountyState projects s it better to stay the way we are in order to keep all of our or will it be in better hands with the County
171 4The roads are fine 95 of hte year just note the road dust Jan 6 2010 916 PM 8 Not sure woudl need to know more about what would be involved in that 10 Yes to tarchip or pave the roads
13 It would be nice to be able to take larger items to the local dump instead of having to drive all the way to Bentonville 172 Questions 5 8 7 8 left blank Jan 8 2010 918 PM 173 3Yes and No Roads are 100 better than they used to be I live on Jan 6 2010 1000 PM Howellsville Road 8 pay way too much 4Yes and No Pay too much get NOTHING for money 5 No Too much expected from me B No County will cost us more money Keep GovtOUT You already bleed us DRY11 7 Costs too much money Again I live on Howellsville Road situation is not fair 8 No Not unless they stop forcing ME to pay for rods I NEVER drive on 10 No I dontget Anything why should I have to keep paying 11 Anything to bring down my out of pocket costs You are killing us Either everyone in Warren County should pay or oly those who live on SF roads 12 If money goes to road then REMOVE US FROM SANITARY DISTRICT You will take more money from me every year and get nothing NOTHING
13 Why do some of the residents on Howellsville Road have to pay for roads we dontdrive when will our fees end Every year our fees go way up every year I pay when other residents on Howellsville Road do not pay The County should exempt those of us who live on statemaintained roads from paying these ridiculous fees When is this going to end I do not have money to blow Me neighbor across the street pays nothing This is not at aft fair i fear the santitation fee is very soon going to be 50000annually or 100000in a few years What part of this should those of us pay who do not EVER drive Shenandoah Farms roads I pay and receive NO service Looking foward to elections Those who keep voting taxes and more services get ready to be voted OUTI 174 4 75k Jan 7 2010 540 PM
Yes we need other contractors to place bids on road jobs There is a lot of money being spent with little work being done To many people sitting in trucks and getting paid for it And no more raises on our taxes
175 The sanitary district management is better than years past but still needs Jan 7 2010 545 PM improvements 1 dontuse commons properties the only thing I would like to see is for culverts ditch clean on roads open up get the over growth back The roads are at least 6 short of property lines and need to be widened You cantmake everyone happy but moving the roads out to the sizes they need to be would make a lot of people happy The sloe did looks good and you can get two cars on the road at one time
I live only 2 blocks from main road and the drainage is terrible washing my culvbert out from neighbors above not cleaning theirs Its terrible
16 of 17 Response Text in Jan 2010 215 PM 176 Where did all the idiots come from around here Thank God I grew up 8 Maryland Cameron Appel Farms local and not Jan 2010 222 PM 177 I would much prefer that we keep management of the give 8 controUresponsibility to the County Iftaxessantiary district fee go up we will consider moving out of the Farms at it took to the Jan 2010 228 PM 178 This past snow storm Dec 18 I was quite shocked how long get 8 roads pbwed Blue Mountain Road wasony plowed on 1 side some streets and did not were never touched for days I live on Cindys Way that road get touched until Monday NO sand whatsoever was put down on the roads And Howellsville Road going towards Route 50 didntlooklike it was plowed for days never seen such a when I left to go to work on Tuesday morning I have sloppy stuck for 3 on Mildare mess in all the areas I have Lived at My car was days Road because it was not plowed or sanded
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