Gubbins Family Notes
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1 Gubbins family Notes. By Noel Murphy According to the Rev George Gough Gubbins who wrote the “Memoirs of the Gubbins Family” and published it in 1891, the first Gubbins to appear in Ireland was a certain Capt. Gubbins, a Cromwellian officer who married a Miss Carpenter. Captain Gubbins got land near Bruree but he and his wife returned to England leaving his Estate to his two sons, Joseph and James. Joseph got Lackanagrour, Kilbreedy, Dromacommer and Cloonbrien. James got the lands and castle of Knocklong. Joseph leased the lands of Clogher which lay nearby, from John Ormsby of Athlacca and lived out his adult life there with his wife and family of two sons and four daughters. (Memorial 64000 names five sons and two daughters). I have given the modern spelling of these five Townlands and they all lie in a semi-circle West, North and East of Bruree, Co. Limerick. Knocklong and Kilfrush lie 15 Kilometres East of Bruree with Hospital/Kenmare Castle directly North of Kilfrush. Joseph’s first wife was Margaret Croker but she died early in their marriage. Joseph married again to Catherine Blakeney. The Gubbins family, named in G O 253 (see page 2) fit the family of Joseph of Clogher above, with James omitted because he had the Knocklong Estate. Joseph from G O 253, could be the Joseph junior who was given Kilbreedy Townland by his father, if so then his wife was Martha Collis. Joseph of Kilbreedy and Martha, his wife, are both named in the Blennerhassett Pedigrees written by Black Jack Blennerhassett in 1733, no children were mentioned so they were probably newlyweds. It was the Knocklong family who acquired Kilfrush and continued the Gubbins line down to the 20th century. From Kilfrush they moved into Maidstown and then into Hospital/Kenmare Castle. James, his son James and his son Joseph stayed for about 50 years in Maidstown before Joseph’s son George moved to Newlawn and renamed it by its old name, Uregare House. In 1768 Gubbins of Maidstown held the lease for Lackanagrour, one of the earliest Townlands held by the Gubbins. It should be pointed out that all Lands belonged to the Crown and that the King or Queen of England granted large tracts of lands to their favourites and supporters in return for military service. This Military service was translated into cash payments during times of peace. The Dukes and Earls likewise granted smaller portions of their lands to their relatives and followers who in turn leased or rented smaller pieces of land to farmers and cottiers. It is wrong to speak or write of families “Owning” land when they only held it by lease from some other bigger family who it turn held it from the Crown. Memorials of the Dead. Vol 7. P. 397. Tombstone on the lands of Kilfrush Demesne. Here Lieth the body of James Gubbins who departed this life xber the 26, 1738 aged 33 years. The Stone was erected by his daughter Catherine. (xber stands for October, the tenth month. Therefore James was born circa 1705 and probably married circa 1726. Catherine would have been aged about 11 years old when James died so the Tombstone was erected years after his death). 2 The Kenmare Mss. P 173 and 174. The Tythe account book for the year 1722 lists James Gobbons (sic) paying tythes in the three Parishs of Kilfrush, Doon & Long and Knocklong. The 1728 tythes were paid by Joseph Gubbins in the parish of Kilfrush while Mr William Gubbins paid tythes in the parish of Doon & Long. Betham’s Will Abstracts. G O 253. P 12. Anne Webb nee Gubbins. William Webb = Ann Gubbins Susanna Joseph ? Catherine Limerick W. 13 June 1748 = = P. 3 June 1749 Peter Sargent Mr Bennet (M. 1731) Note: - Betham left a question mark against the wife of Peter Sargent but her name was Elizabeth Gubbins. Peter Sargent was born in 1711 and married Elizabeth in 1731. He was Mayor of Limerick in 1753 and died in 1785. (See Sargent file). The Webb family lived in Maidstown Castle in the early 1700’s but sold it to the Gubbins family around 1750. Joseph Gubbins sold the lease to James Creed in 1793. From Maidstown the Gubbins moved to Newlawn, also known as Uregare House. I would surmise that the Catherine who married Mr Bennet was a generation younger than the Catherine who erected the memorial to her father James. Bethams Will Abstracts. G O 234. P 235. William Gubbins = Margaret. Is this William the 2nd son of James and Elizabeth of Knocklong? D. intestate B. (See below). William’s birth date estimated as circa 1668. Admin to widow M. 9 Nov 1750 D. 17/01/1769 of Knocklong Betham’s Will Abstracts, same Vol. and page. Joseph Gubbins = Mary Grant. M. 1728. From MLB’s. Cork and Ross. B.c. 1698 dau of Stephen of Cork. Kilfrush Victualler W. 18/04/1763 Pr. 11/02/1767 2nd. Dau. Joseph = Mary. James. William. Anne. Elizabeth. Mary. Esther. Margaret. Dorothea. Kilfrush Stamer Maidstown = = = = = W. 24/03/1776 D. intestate Chas. Michael James Robert Richard Pr. 14/05/1776 Admin to Massy Bevan Bourchier Lidwell Piercy Bro.Joe. of Camus M.1767 16/07/1765 M.1761 M.1761 M. 1783 George Stamer Gubbins = Anne Russell Joseph Mary Hanora = Ralph Dutton Kilfrush B. 14/01/1769 B. 21/12/1770 B.1772 B. 1770 W. 02/04/1797 M. 1790 M.1804 M. 1803 Pr. 10/05/1797 M.1810 D. 1804 D. 11/04/1797 D. 07/04/1851 Joseph George = Elizabeth Blood William Elizabeth = William Evans Hartopp. Mary B.1791 B.1793 B.1793 B.1796 B.1797 M. 1833 M. 25/10/1817. 3 D.1853 D.1848 D. 04/11/1833 George and William were twins. (Addissional information is added to Betham’s abstracts in red). Nick Reddan’s Registry of Deeds Index Project. Memorial 3390, dated 16 Aug 1712 and Memorial 24852, dated 14 Feb 1717, Give the following: - James Gubbins = Elizabeth. James already a father of Joseph in 1712. Knocklong. Must be the first James of Knocklong. Joseph William Eldest 2nd son ============= Memorial 64000 Dated 3 Nov 1737 Joseph Gubbins = Catherine Gubbins (Nee Blakeney, 2nd wife). First Joseph of of Cloher. Decd. Cloher. James Lancelot George Margaret Anne William Blakeney Joseph (1709-1784) (Eldest). Kilbreedy. In Joseph Gubbins Will, dated 6 Jan 1732, he left all to his wife and children. (The succession to the Lands of Clogher and the Townlands around Bruree passed through Lancelot and his sons by Mabella Norcott). ============= Memorial 111169, dated 26 July 1753. This tells us that Lancelot Gubbins (1709 – 1784) was married to Marbella Norcott, the daughter of William Norcott and that she had sisters called Lucia and Dorcas. ============= Memorial 121979, dated 1 July 1756. This names Joseph Gubbins and his eldest son Joseph junior. Senior had settled earlier, the lands of Kilbride/Kilbridy/Kilbreedy on junior with remainder to issue by Martha Collin, [Recte Collis], and then to George Gubbins and his heirs. (George was deceased by 1756 leaving only three daughters, Elizabeth, Annabella and Catherine. Elizabeth had married the Rev Ephrain Monsell of Mountmellick, Co. Clare. In the List of Freeholders for 1768 and 1776 The Rev Ephraim Monsell is shown holding land in Kilbreedy Townland, he was living there in 1768 but was living in Limerick in 1776. He was born in 1724 and died on the 10/04/1798. So Elizabeth inherited her share of Kilbreedy as Joseph senior intended in Memorial 121979). ============= Memorial 171077, dated 24 March 1767. 4 This records the Marriage Settlement between Joseph Gubbins of Kilfrush and Mary, the daughter of George Stamer of Carnelly. (Carnelly is in Co. Clare). (These two were the parents of George Stamer Gubbins, Born 14/01/1769, married 05/10/1790, Died 11/04/1797. He married Anne Russell who was born 21/12/1770). ============= Memorial 278153, Marriage Settlement, dated 27 August 1790. From this Marriage settlement for the marriage of Elizabeth Ann Carr, daughter of the Rev Ralph Carr of Bath and step daughter of Mary Stamer his third wife, to Chidley Coote of Ash Hill, Kilmallock but then of Bath. (We note the presence of George Stamer Gubbins the son and heir of Joseph Gubbins, deceased, the former husband of Mary Stamer. He was probably there to prevent the transfer of any of the jointure of Mary Stamer to Elizabeth Ann in the settlement. Mary’s Jointure would revert to George Stamer Gubbins when Mary died and was not Mary’s or her husband’s to give away as part of the dowry of Elizabeth Ann). (Ralph Carr’s second wife died on the 09/09/1786 so his marriage to Mary Stamer was after that date but before 1790. Mary Stamer eventually died in 1813. Ralph Carr died in 1810, aged 73). ============= Memorial 303015, dated 2 Nov 1793. This deed shows Joseph Gubbins of Maidstown selling the lease of Maidstown and other lands to James Creed in 1793. (See Creed file where James Creed and his son were living in Maidstown in 1803). ============= “Descent and Alliances of Croslegh, Crossie or Crossley of Scaitcliffe”. 1904. Web site. Capt John Minnit of Knygh Castle married Mary Gubbins in 1713. She was the daughter of Joseph Gubbins of Kilfrush who died in January 1737 and Grand-daughter of Joseph Gubbins of Knocklong. ============= Limerick Archives. Deed number D0321. Dated 1721. This Indenture is a Marriage Settlement for a wedding that occurred in 1720. A sum of £500 was involved. This must be the Bride’s dowry.